We’re all pregnant, birth confessions & why you need your mom postpartum

Summary

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

Episode: “We’re all pregnant, birth confessions & why you need your mom postpartum”

Date: August 27, 2025

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Overview

In this heartfelt, funny, and refreshingly honest episode, Abby welcomes her sister-in-law Addy and friend Coco for a candid roundtable about pregnancy, childbirth, postpartum realities, and the unique dynamics of being pregnant together. With all three women at various stages of expectancy, they share personal confessions, memorable family stories, anxieties, and the importance of support—especially from moms—during the postpartum phase. This conversation is a deep dive into the emotional, physical, and relational highs and lows of growing families.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The Rare Experience of Being Pregnant Together

• All three women—Abby, Coco, and Addy—are pregnant at the same time, an overlap they recognize may never happen again.
• Discourse on their due dates leading to cousins being close in age (“all within the same school year grade”) and how those small age gaps seem huge at first but eventually even out.

  "For the first, like, two years. It's gonna be so obvious. Like, every month makes a difference... Now they're evening out a lot." — Abby [02:07]

2. Pregnancy Symptoms & Trimester Realness

• Coco’s “worst” trimester: The first, due to morning sickness and exhaustion.

  "My first trimester... was way worse than, honestly, most of the symptoms that I've had." — Coco [08:18]

• Addy’s “most difficult”: The third, citing discomfort, soreness, and involuntary grunts.
• Funny anecdotes about pregnancy “grunts” and how even their kids start copying them.
  • “CJ started grunting too.” — Addy [09:37]
• Addy theorizes pregnancy gets easier after the second, adopting a workout analogy about “sets.”

  "Maybe it'll be like workout sets. Like, your first pregnancy, you know, it's exhausting... by the third set, I typically get a second wind...I'm hoping that's how it is with kids." — Addy [10:23]

3. Birth Stories & Confessions

• Processing birth “outcomes” and feelings of achievement or disappointment. Abby and Addy reflect on unplanned C-sections and their emotional aftermath.
• The importance of preparing for all scenarios, including C-sections.

  "I felt a lot of rage because I didn’t have time in the moment to process anything… it felt very hard to make that decision in the moment." — Addy [40:05]

• Coco’s anxiety as her baby was briefly transverse and the emotional preparation for a possible C-section.

  “I just start bawling because I’m like, grieving… what that could have been.” — Coco [36:26]

4. Gender Reveals, Announcements & Family Instincts

• Funny and “anticlimactic” recounting of sharing pregnancy news, including accidentally finding out via gym paperwork and shirt clues.

  "I think my sister-in-law is pregnant." — Addy (after Coco spotted 'P' for pregnant at the gym) [15:42]

• Discussion about gender disappointment, expectations, and the difference between finding out early or at birth.

  "Because we're waiting until birth, the minute you meet your baby, you could literally care less... You're just so excited." — Addy [58:56]

5. Support Systems & Why Moms Are Essential Postpartum

• A powerful theme: the irreplaceable need for maternal/community support in postpartum recovery.

  "I needed my mom. I needed women." — Abby [80:33]

• Partners do their best, but some needs only moms and women can meet during and after birth.

  "People like to dog on their husbands, but... it's not even that they aren't trying. It's like they just..." — Addy [81:17]

• Reflections on each woman’s husband adjusting or about to adjust to new fatherhood or growing the number of kids.

6. Sibling Dynamics & Big Brother/Little Sister Anticipation

• Adorable stories about older siblings anticipating their new siblings—Griffin talking about Brielle, CJ kissing Addy’s belly, and how children process the idea of a new sibling.

  "CJ always lifts my shirt and, like, says hi to baby and kisses baby." — Addy [62:30]

• Shared excitement about cousins growing up together and pondering what mix of boys/girls the family will welcome next.

7. Vulnerability & Birth Experience Comparison

• Honest confessions about comparing births, feeling competitive, and untangling personal achievement from birth outcomes.

  "Sometimes when people have, like, a dreamy birth experience, I feel myself being, like... and I was like, that's so ugly. I never want to be that person." — Abby [46:56]

• Acknowledgement that support, vulnerability, and honest conversation help process complicated feelings of pride, disappointment, and jealousy.

8. Postpartum Plans & Mental Health

• Different postpartum strategies: Addy wants to avoid another C-section for easier physical recovery; Abby focuses on preparing for mental health challenges.
• The phenomenon of “sundown scaries” and individualized approaches to recovery—some want to get outside, some prefer to nest.

  "My challenge was mental... that's why I felt like I could [be active]. Because I'm like, pain I can just take the medication… but my mental health was so bad that I was like, let me get some endorphins..." — Abby [72:04]

• The value of therapy, and normalizing mental and emotional support postpartum.

  "You don't need to be going through major trauma to benefit from therapy." — Abby [35:28]

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Preparing for the Unexpected:

  “Pregnancy, birth, they just want to throw curveballs at you all the time.” — Abby [29:06]

• On Community:

  “Any problem is just a recipe for disaster... it takes community, it takes getting it out for any healing to start.” — Abby [79:35]

• On the Emotional Weight of Announcements:

  “You get one really fun [pregnancy announcement]...the third is a little anticlimactic.” — Abby [18:28]

• On the Power of Nostalgia:

  “I am already someone that is, like, deeply nostalgic. Like, me and nostalgia—like that emotion on Inside Out 2...” — Abby [25:33]

• On Comparing & Releasing Control:

  “There’s a lot of factors that actually have nothing to do with my ability as a person, as a woman...” — Abby [47:14]

• On Grieving Unexpected Outcomes:

  “Grief seems like a strong word, but [I had to grieve] what could have been—a vaginal delivery...” — Coco [36:26]

• On Sibling Love:

  "CJ always lifts my shirt and, like, says hi to baby and kisses baby, and he loves talking to baby. It's so sweet." — Addy [62:30]

• On Needing Your Mom Postpartum:

  “I rely on Matt for literally 99.9% of everything. That 0.1% ... I needed my mom. And I’m so grateful she was present.” — Abby [80:39]

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Timestamps for Major Segments

• 00:29 – Opening thoughts on birth as achievement & postpartum needs
• 01:33 – Three pregnancies; preparing for babies together
• 08:17-09:49 – First vs. third trimester struggles
• 10:23 – The “workout sets” pregnancy analogy
• 15:14 – Finding out about pregnancies accidentally at the gym
• 29:06 – Facing unplanned pregnancy and postpartum experiences
• 36:26 – Processing the possible need for a C-section (Coco’s story)
• 40:05 – Addy discusses disappointment & rage after her C-section
• 46:56 – Abby candidly confesses jealousy over others’ “dreamy” births
• 58:56 – Addy on gender disappointment and finding out at birth
• 80:33 – Why you need your mom postpartum—a recurring, emotional theme
• 82:48 – Comparing how husbands adapt with each subsequent child

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Tone and Style

• Honest and Vulnerable: The women openly dissect their expectations, fears, and competitive or jealous feelings.
• Warm and Humorous: Playful teasing about pregnancy “grunts,” the realities of baby announcements, and sibling energy.
• Supportive: Rich with examples of community, sisterhood, and affirming each other's feelings.
• Practical: Willingness to talk openly about therapy, postpartum emotional health, and real-life scenarios.

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Conclusion

This episode is a must-listen for anyone navigating pregnancy, birth, or the postpartum period—especially those wrestling with the gap between expectations and reality. Abby, Addy, and Coco create a safe, relatable space to share their truest feelings and practical wisdom, reminding listeners: whatever your birth story, you aren’t alone, and support makes all the difference.

Transcript

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[Abby]

When people have, like, a dreamy birth experience, I feel myself being like, dang. That's because I associated the outcome of a birth with some type of personal achievement.

[Addy]

I'm going for a vbac. I just really want to try again. But then it's like, okay, now I have to be aware of these risks on my life or this baby's life.

[Abby]

I needed my mom. I needed women.

[Addy]

I needed my mom, too.

[Abby]

Even during labor, when I saw my mom, I was like, oh, mom, like.

[Coco]

You know, the way that I found out that you were pregnant, the funny.

[Abby]

Story, I just remember that.

[Coco]

How did you know? I said it says on the wall.

[Abby]

Welcome back to the unplanned podcast. Today I have my lovely sister in law. They're both about to bust. And I mean that in the best way because they're both expecting. Have the cutest round bellies.

[Addy]

That's sweet.

[Abby]

Seriously, they're so perfectly round. I was literally thinking that. I'm like, they're just killing it, you guys. So Addy is literally due today.

[Coco]

Today is my due day.

[Abby]

So we are officially, officially on baby watch.

[Podcast Host]

Yes.

[Addy]

Oh, yeah.

[Abby]

That will be the first little baby girl in the family. And Abby, how far along are you? 30.

[Addy]

Today's 34.

[Abby]

34.

[Addy]

Yeah.

[Abby]

34 weeks. You guys are crushing it, honestly.

[Coco]

Yeah.

[Abby]

I want to talk all things baby because this is like the last time, potentially. This could be the only time that we're all pregnant together.

[Coco]

It could be.

[Abby]

Which is so crazy. Obviously, you guys are in a totally different stage. I'm also pregnant, and I feel like I'm in a totally different stage. But it's just. I mean, still, it counts. We're all having babies at the same time, and that's. That's something special that might never happen again.

[Coco]

All within, like, the same, like, grade in school year.

[Abby]

That's true.

[Coco]

Think about it that way. Like, yeah, we're kind of far apart, but they're all. They would all be in the same grade.

[Abby]

It'll even out eventually. It'll even out eventually. For the first, like, two years. It's gonna be so obvious. Like, every month makes a difference. And I feel like even for a while between CJ and Augie, where there are only 18 days. I was like, CJ's so advanced. Like, I was like, now they're evening out a lot. But I was like, when will Auggie be able to do that? 18 days from now, probably.

[Addy]

Like, it's so crazy in that first year.

[Abby]

I know.

[Addy]

It's really shocking.

[Abby]

You got to take it month, I think, especially with nursing, too, because, like, having an 18 day jump on the nursing journey was like, I always kind of remember looking to you and being like, okay, I got to get 18 more days. Then I'll be more. You were good in 18 days. Yeah, I was like, 18 days. A lot happens. It's 18 days, right?

[Addy]

I'm pretty sure that's what someone commented one time.

[Abby]

Yeah, that's how we figured it out. We just let them.

[Addy]

Thank you followers for.

[Abby]

Also, can I just say, if you do hear the air conditioning, we apologize. We made the executive decision that since we have, like, two extremely pregnant women, we're going to let it fly. Because typically we turn it off in Arizona. Typically we turn it off for audio purposes.

[Coco]

It shouldn't be that loud, but I already am sweating. And they have to.

[Abby]

They have. They're. They're incubating a human.

[Coco]

I could have a baby today if we. If she really wanted to.

[Abby]

I was literally thinking, like, last night in bed, I was like, wow, when a baby comes out, they've gone from a balmy, like, 98.6 forever to, like, cold, sterile hospital room.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah.

[Abby]

Because they probably keep their crowd a.

[Coco]

Little cold for the mom because we're probably sweating right during delivery and stuff. And then it's probably just so cold, you know?

[Abby]

That made me sad for them. Well, especially I thought about Augie. I was like, he was evicted so quickly.

[Addy]

Like, didn't even have time to think about it.

[Abby]

He didn't even. And he was pissed about it. He was so pissed.

[Addy]

Did he cry right away?

[Abby]

Yeah, but they did prep me. They were like, it might C section babies. It takes them a minute to, like, realize they're out. He screamed immediately. Wow. Yeah. That was just great.

[Addy]

I didn't even realize. I went back and looked. It was foreshadowing, and it was over a minute before CJ cried.

[Abby]

You're kidding. Uh.

[Addy]

Cause I remember Caleb and I were holding our breath. Like, was that scary? Um, it was for a minute. Yeah.

[Coco]

Did you, like, registered that that was happening? Were you, like, thinking about, like.

[Abby]

Yeah.

[Addy]

Waiting to hear the cry.

[Coco]

Okay.

[Addy]

Cause they pulled him out, and Caleb said, it's A boy. And we were celebrating, and then it was just silence. But the nurses and doctors didn't sound anything. But we have the video, and you never hear the cry.

[Abby]

He was a little bit in distress.

[Addy]

He was. Yeah. But I remember then when we heard the cry, we started crying.

[Abby]

Oh, man. I remember I watched that video 500 times. I love you. And, like, right after having CJ, I know. I can't wait for this baby with Griffin. I don't remember.

[Coco]

You don't remember?

[Abby]

I don't. I don't think that he was fine right away. I think they're just worried about his arm.

[Coco]

I'm interested because I'm like, I don't think we're gonna have, like, a video at all. Like, I don't think Blake wants to video anything, and I don't. I think he wants to be present, and I don't really want anyone else in the room. I could, like, set up a phone or something.

[Addy]

You just set up a tripod and just have it in the corner.

[Abby]

You should get your reactions.

[Addy]

It's the best. It's the best video.

[Abby]

Just your face.

[Coco]

Someone convince Blake of that.

[Abby]

Just get one off your face.

[Addy]

Don't share it anywhere. Just.

[Coco]

No. Yeah, I know. It would just be for us, but, yeah.

[Addy]

And C.J. loves watching that video.

[Coco]

I'll have to ask about it tonight. You know, yesterday, it was so cute. He goes, you know when you're, like, having contract and you start pushing and stuff, you're supposed to breathe through your contractions. Like, you're not supposed to push, like, super hard. I'm like, how did you. Where did you learn this? I just saw a video pop.

[Abby]

Oh, my gosh. I love that. That's funny.

[Coco]

He's. Now he's getting on, like, the birth side of TikTok.

[Abby]

Yeah. Blake has asked me some questions recently. Blake is my brother, and so sometimes he's asked me some questions recently. I'm like, he's going to change a lot really quickly. Or he's, like, said a couple things about, like, birth, and I'm, like, surprised that he knows, but I'm like, it makes sense. Like, he's having his own baby. But then I'm also, like, even telling you, like, I don't. I, like, never want to seem like, oh, just, like, just you wait. But I did think back to, like, the day before I had Griffin or even the day I went into, like, be induced with him, how, like, I was like, wow. My brain just felt so different then. Like, my brain literally changed the. The day he was born. Like, it was, like, it's like a before and after type of thing. And it didn't happen with Augie, like, because I feel like it had already made that switch to parent mode, where you just view the world differently. And, like, I feel like that does start to happen during pregnancy. But there is just a stark difference in my mind from, like, that day leading up or, like, even with you as cj, when we went to see, like, the Barbie movie and stuff. Like, those memories become, like, etched in your brain because they're so. They talk about that with crime. So, like, when they ask someone, like, what were you doing on the day of such and such, if it is a very memorable, like, day, they can tell you what they ate for breakfast that day. Like, what. What they were wearing, like, all these other things. But then if it's like, any other day, you're like, what happened last Tuesday? You're like, I don't know. Like, I don't remember what I ate for breakfast last Tuesday. But, like, those memorable days, it's just funny how those, like, just. You remember every single detail, but then especially you remember how you feel in those moments and how it just, like, changes.

[Coco]

Yeah. I can only imagine because I'm like. I feel like I've already. My brain has already changed so much in, like, the last nine months that I'm, like, it's surely gonna change even crazy, like, even more tomorrow or, you know, like, the next couple days. You know?

[Addy]

That is crazy. The meals you totally will remember.

[Coco]

Really?

[Addy]

I remember my mom made me. I got the Foley bulb. I went home. My mom. Yes. Sandwich with turkey and pesto and avocado. It was all delicious. Why do I remember that? She made me a sandwich.

[Abby]

You just. Those. Those little details just become so vivid.

[Addy]

Yes.

[Abby]

And it, like, Even with, like, CJ's birthday, like, I remember what we were doing. I remember I was putting together that little shuffleboard table and just, like, texting you and just, like, thinking about it all day. Like, I woke up in the night thinking about it. Like, I just remember these days so vividly, and it's so exciting that it's just, like, all about to happen again.

[Coco]

I'm like, I'd love for it to be today, because I'm gonna be like, this podcast was recorded on the day that she was born. Come on.

[Addy]

Yeah, we should make Addie stand and hold a mic and just do squats the whole podcast.

[Abby]

Yeah. By the way, why are you sit. No, you need to rest right now. You need to relax. Okay. So you Guys are both like, very in the third trimester. I want to ask you now, since we had you earlier on in the pregnancy, what do you think is the worst trimester? Or I shouldn't say the worst. The most difficult trimester.

[Addy]

You can go first, Eddie.

[Coco]

I might say first trimester. Actually, my first trimester, like, just like the morning sickness and that kind of stuff was way worse than, honestly, most of the symptoms that I've had. Third trimester, like, yeah, these last, like two weeks have been pretty rough. But I think the four weeks that I had morning sickness and like, was so tired and couldn't like, get out of bed was worse than what these last couple weeks have been. I think I've had a very fairly easy pregnancy. I'm very, very grateful for that. Like, every time someone's like, how are you feeling? I'm like, I feel pretty good, honestly. Like, I don't. I'm not, like, overly tired. I'm not like super uncomfortable most of the time. I can sleep, I can still move my body. But like, in the first trimester, I couldn't move my body. I would wake up super early because I was morning. Like, I had morning sickness. Couldn't really, like, do anything during the day because I didn't feel good at all. And so I'd say probably first trimester for me.

[Addy]

I was going to say the third for me. Third, because I don't get nauseous in the first. I'm tired. But, you know, you just lay on the couch. But this trimester, I remember this with cj, I'm just so sore. Everything's way more uncomfortable. Every time I lay down a bed at nighttime and to get up, you have to do a five point turn. You know, it's just like every involuntary grunt that comes out of my mouth, just the slightest of movements, I'm like, I'm not even being dramatic. I didn't even know my mouth was going to make that sound.

[Abby]

It's just. Didn't you say that CJ started grunting too?

[Addy]

Yeah, he started grunting.

[Abby]

I was like, oh, my gosh.

[Addy]

I get to shut my trapper because this poor kid is learning some weird habits. But yeah, it's just pain. I think the pain is more in the third.

[Abby]

Yeah. Well, do you think that this one has been, like, harder than your first pregnancy?

[Addy]

I was just telling addie this today. C.J. was actually. He was breached until maybe 35 or 36 weeks. And so I think that's why I never had pelvic floor pain with him because his head was not down, so I didn't have a ton of pressure. Low. This baby is in a normal position and so I've had a lot more pelvic floor pain and probably being the second is more painful. So I think there are probably two reasons why you actually had a hot.

[Abby]

Take the other day. You told me in Val you're like, I think your third pregnancy is the easiest pregnancy.

[Addy]

This is my optimistic mentality. I was trying to hype myself up because Caleb and I want to have four, three or four kids. And so in my head I'm thinking maybe it'll be like workout sets. Like your first workout set, your first pregnancy, you know, it's exhausting, it's tiring, it's hard, it's your first time and then by the end of it you're fatigued, but you're like, okay, that wasn't terrible. Then you know, the second set, you're like, oh, I'm adding weight. You know, I gotta bulk up a little bit more, so I'm gonna put more weight on. Then you're really tired. I always think the second set of a workout is the worst. I'm exhausted, it's heavier, I don't like it. Then the third set, I typically get a second wind and I'm like, let's go. And then by the fourth, I'm like.

[Abby]

Woo, this is amazing.

[Addy]

You know, like, that was a fun workout. So I'm hoping that's how it is with kids. Yeah, or your body just gets more torn down. I don't know what it is.

[Abby]

I want everyone to comment down below that's had three or four kids. Tell us which pregnancy you found the most challenging.

[Coco]

We're in the first pregnancy, second pregnancy, third pregnancy.

[Abby]

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[Abby]

Code unplanned pod Recently, I was thinking about how you guys both told me that you were pregnant. And it feels like such a long time ago. Like, really does. Addie, that was before Christmas.

[Coco]

That's so crazy.

[Abby]

Such a, like, defining time. And then for you, like, I just knew you were pregnant. Like, I knew it. I was like, it's. It's happening. I told Matt before I told her whole family. Sorry.

[Coco]

She's like, I think they're gonna tell us they're pregnant tonight.

[Addy]

Oh, that was crazy. You just knew.

[Abby]

So funny instincts. I did know.

[Coco]

The way that I found out that you were pregnant. Kind of a funny story. Oh my gosh.

[Abby]

I just remember that.

[Coco]

So I'll explain mine because yours is a little probably more straightforward of a.

[Addy]

Way that, yeah, yours is actually crazy.

[Coco]

Mine's a little crazy. It's my fault. We've claimed it. It's my fault.

[Abby]

It's not.

[Coco]

But so we go to the gym together and they have a little very small laminated piece of detective that they put over by the speaker. And they usually write down, like, how many people are in class. And it's for the trainer to be able to reference during the workout. Not a public piece of paper. Just I was looking at it and I had noticed like a week before. I. I am kind of observant. I do watch a lot of things and look at people and want to know what's going on. Like a Week before, there were a bunch of names on like the modifications list. And it like they have like dashes and it's either like P for pregnant or PP for postpartum. Or like there's knee injuries or different things.

[Abby]

She even knows all these codes.

[Coco]

I've looked at it so many times.

[Abby]

That's crazy.

[Addy]

Nosy.

[Abby]

I looked at it today.

[Coco]

I looked at it today. Mine was the only name that said it. And there were multiple other pregnant people in there.

[Abby]

That's true. Okay. Cause this day I was the only one on it. And I was like four weeks, five.

[Coco]

Weeks pregnant, not very pregnant. And so I saw it like a week before and I was like, there were five names on there and they all said pregnant. And I was like, there was one other. I counted everyone I knew that was pregnant. You could see that they were pregnant. And then there was one girl that maybe was pregnant, but I didn't know her name. I was like, maybe her name's Abby. That's what I thought. I was like, surely not next week. There's not many other people in this class that are pregnant. It only says Abby.

[Abby]

My only name said Abby.

[Coco]

P didn't even say pregnant. It just said dash P. And why was I looking at it? I don't know. But I'm in the middle of my workout. I don't remember what. Maybe it was like leg day or something and we were on our resting set and I was just staring off his face. After I read it, I was like putting the pieces together. I'm like, maybe the traitor calls. It was Sam. She goes, addie, you good?

[Abby]

I'm like, you're freaking out.

[Addy]

You're like, I think my sister in law is pregnant.

[Abby]

You think she was pregnant right now? I was like, what's going on?

[Coco]

And then after.

[Abby]

So after we finished, I never thought that she knew.

[Coco]

No, after we were. After we finished the workout, usually we all like come together and sit together and just chat.

[Abby]

You're off on your own.

[Coco]

I was off on my own with a bowl. Cause there was just a medicine ball there. So I was just sitting with it. I was waiting for. You and Matt were talking. So I was waiting for you to get up and come over. You came over like, you're like, are you okay? I said, sit down.

[Addy]

I said, sit down.

[Coco]

Because I wanted to be quiet as possible in case this was true. I said, are you pregnant? And you went. She just like looked at me and she was like, I tackled her. I'm like 36 weeks pregnant. Just tackle Abby. And I'm like, like, oh. She goes, how did you know? I said it says it on the wall over there.

[Abby]

We were waiting to tell Blake and Addie together, and so we were like. We had the. We had. I think this was a Saturday workout. Was it? Or was it a. I can't remember.

[Coco]

You tell me the next day when.

[Abby]

We already had plans to see you and Blake together, because I wanted to tell them together, and then that happens. They felt so bad.

[Coco]

Yeah, they did feel.

[Abby]

And I felt bad because I was like. The only reason I told them is because I had a double hernia before, and I was like, I just need to make sure that. Because I feel fine. So I want to make sure I'm not doing anything that's going to, like, mess me up, because my instinct is just to keep doing it because I feel normal. And so I was like, I just want them to know, because I clearly have. Could have helped myself out better in the past, potentially. I think it's probably gonna happen anyway. So I was like, I'm just gonna let her know. And so she was. The only person I told, like, right away was because I was like, I don't want to do anything dumb in the gym. And then it was.

[Coco]

And then I found out, unfortunately.

[Abby]

I even told them. I was like, you're the only people that know, right? Yeah.

[Addy]

Yeah.

[Abby]

And then they created a new policy because.

[Addy]

What's the new policy?

[Abby]

I think they do have to probably. They don't. They write. They don't write it down unless it's, like, something amount of time.

[Addy]

Oh, my gosh. It's so.

[Coco]

So it was. It was just very funny and ironic that that's the way it happened. And then that night.

[Abby]

So bad.

[Coco]

Okay, we have to. We have to tell Blake tonight. Like, guys, so we, like, went over for dinner, and then, like, you. We have it on video of them telling Blake, and then Blake looks at me and goes, did you know? I was like. I accidentally found out this morning. It was not intentional.

[Addy]

At the Edwards.

[Abby]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Addy]

So fun. Yeah.

[Abby]

I was shocked. Really?

[Addy]

I mean, I knew that you had pulled the ied, like, at the beginning of the year, but then you guys had kind of been like, well, let's talk about a bit more before we start trying.

[Abby]

Yeah.

[Addy]

So then when you told me that you were pregnant, I was shocked. I teared up. And, yeah, I was like, this is crazy.

[Abby]

It was really fun.

[Addy]

Yeah, it was so fun.

[Abby]

Yeah, that was.

[Addy]

That was. I. The whole night was so fun.

[Abby]

That was a great.

[Addy]

A lot of big announcements. That was fun.

[Abby]

Yeah. That's funny because, like, we didn't tell anyone we were going to try because we had never told anyone that we were going to try, you know? But then it was such, like, an internal dialogue for so long, and then all of a sudden, it was kind of just like, okay, like, and it was a decision we made, like, together. So I was like. I just, like, it was. It felt really special that time, that it was like we just knew this thing. And then. Yeah. Telling everyone was also so fun. I do think it's a little anticlimactic announcing the third time the second. Yeah. I'm like, you did it again. You get one really fun one. No, it's always a blessing. And it's like, it's always viewed the same once the baby arrives, it's just a practice pregnancy announcement. Even me right now being pregnant, I feel so annoying. Like, I'm like, just don't. Just forget about this. Like, don't care to me. Like, I'm just like, just don't worry about me. Everything's fine. And so, yeah, I do think the third is a little anti climb.

[Coco]

We were, like, guessing. We're like, how's Blake gonna respond? How's Blake gonna react? We were all like, what? He's gonna just be. I was like, he's gonna go, oh, wow. That's exactly what he did.

[Addy]

Michael Blabby said something.

[Coco]

He.

[Abby]

I think he gave me a hug, though. Yeah, he.

[Coco]

Yeah, I think he got up and gave you.

[Abby]

That means a lot.

[Addy]

Yeah.

[Coco]

Physical touch means a lot from physical touch.

[Abby]

He doesn't offer that often.

[Coco]

No.

[Abby]

I love that.

[Addy]

I think Caleb noticed because Griffin and, well, Augie was wearing a shirt that's.

[Abby]

A middle brother, middle child energy.

[Addy]

And Caleb goes, look at the shirt.

[Podcast Host]

Look at the shirt.

[Abby]

Look at the shirt. Because he goes, why are you. Why are you recording? Yeah, Matt's a vlog camera. They're pregnant.

[Addy]

He's so quick.

[Abby]

He wants. I'm like, oh, my gosh. Give us a sec to figure it out. Like, I want to do the game. Let me do the math. Let me do the math. Oh, it's so. But yeah, I do feel like it is a little anticlimactic, which is fine. Like, I'm like, I think the sympathy wears out, too. My sympathy for myself wears out, too. I'm like, it's time. You just got. You have two other kids to care for. So exciting for myself. Like.

[Addy]

Like, for pity for being pregnant.

[Coco]

Yeah.

[Abby]

Like, it's like, I feel like the first time it's like, oh, let me get you comfortable. Let me get you a snack. And then second time, it's like you have another kid to care for. So it's like, you gotta keep going.

[Addy]

You gotta get up, girl.

[Abby]

Two other kids, it's like, giddy up. Like you signed up. You KN what you're doing saddle again. Which, that's how I feel. I'm like, I knew exactly what I was doing, so I'm not going to sit here and have pit party.

[Addy]

Does it feel more daunting the third time?

[Abby]

No, I, it doesn't. It doesn't feel more daunting.

[Addy]

Well, let me know how that second wind is.

[Abby]

Okay? We'll see. Have been most exhausted. This. It is so funny. I like try to explain to the kids. I'm like, mommy's really tired. They don't care.

[Coco]

They don't, they don't understand.

[Abby]

They're like, we don't know that we're going to swim. Yeah, get in the pool. That's what they do in the morning. They say, get in the pool. I'm like, we can't start off the.

[Coco]

Day in the pool.

[Abby]

That is so crazy.

[Coco]

I love that.

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[Abby]

It's weird to me that for a while I will have the youngest baby in the family. Even like, isn't that weird? Doesn't that feel kind of weird?

[Coco]

That is weird to think about oldest and youngest.

[Abby]

I guess algae has been the youngest for a while. But it'll be more dramatic this time.

[Addy]

Yeah.

[Abby]

But yeah, it is funny to me.

[Coco]

That is interesting. I love anytime we're all in the room together, like when you're with or with your mom or like at dinner, it's all of us and then we're like, like, Lori, you're the only non pregnant woman here.

[Abby]

I don't feel pregnant.

[Coco]

So I'm like, just don't even focus about me.

[Abby]

But I think my mom's like so excited about all the babies. Like, she is just. She's like, we're going to have a grandma's day, including everyone's mom. She's like, we're all just going to do like have a brunch.

[Coco]

And I looked on the calendar. There is a date that overlaps where Teresa is going to be here and potentially Ruth and my mom.

[Abby]

That's where I was trying to do something.

[Coco]

Your mom's like going to plan a brunch or something.

[Addy]

So cute.

[Abby]

And honestly, that was the first time I heard my mom use the word grandma. We were in reference to herself. I actually. Okay, so my kids call my parents honey and Gah. I don't know if we've ever really said that, but they call them honey and Ga. Gah was not chosen, in case you're wondering. Sometimes I would say give it to Gah and it sounds like, give it to Gah. Like this weird, like phrase that we're saying. It's not a phrase. Griffin just called him that because he was like one and then it just stuck. But it's funny because now it's like he's stuck with his name Gah, which is hilarious. I asked Griffin the other day, I was like, how is ga? Like relate. I think I was like, how is. Like, how. Who is he? How is he related? Like, or like, how does he fit in our family? Or something like that. And he said, grandpa, so he does know. So I was like, that's reassuring to me because he's not going to go to school and like tell kids that he has a gah.

[Coco]

Yeah.

[Abby]

Like Grandpa. That's weird.

[Addy]

I'm gone.

[Coco]

I'm a go on honey.

[Abby]

Yeah. And the honey. So I'm like, at least they know.

[Coco]

I wonder, is that. What are like your parents right now?

[Addy]

They're both Pawpaw and Grandma.

[Abby]

Okay.

[Addy]

Yeah. Which I think my dad will eventually switch to Grandpa. And we'll keep Caleb and Matt's dad as Pawpaw. Yeah.

[Abby]

Grandpa.

[Addy]

Yeah.

[Abby]

And then they'll both be Grandma.

[Addy]

Yeah. Which I haven't figured out how to differentiate that, I guess. Grandma Teresa and Grandma Ruthie. Yeah.

[Abby]

Yeah.

[Coco]

We used to call our grandmas based on where they live. So we'd say Grandma in Arkansas and Grandma in Warrensburg.

[Addy]

Grandma Arkansas.

[Abby]

Grandma Warrensburg. We call them by their last names, like Grandma Biswell and Grandma Beauty Coffee.

[Addy]

Yeah, we did too.

[Coco]

That makes sense. Yeah.

[Addy]

Yeah. Grandma. You and Grandma.

[Coco]

I think my parents are just gonna be Grandma and Grandpa.

[Abby]

I want to be Grandma. I've already thought about it. I actually cried about the fact that I'm gonna be a grandparent with Matt.

[Coco]

That's cute.

[Abby]

I was like, it's cool that we're parents, but what's really cool is that we're probably be grandparents.

[Addy]

Now that you're pregnant again, are you crying again? I'm not.

[Abby]

You guys. That's why I don't think I'm pregnant. One night I did. You know what got me? It's always these videos of kids growing up. It's so rude because I'm already someone that is, like, deeply nostalgic. Like, yeah, me and nostalgia. Like that. That emotion on Inside out too. I was like, her, the little granny. I'm like, that's a huge emotion that I feel. And so they laid out. I've seen a lot of moms do this. I literally showed Matt this. This video had 20 likes. Yeah, 20 likes. I'm like, why? I'm getting micro targeted for these videos and the Toy Story toys. And then the like. I could cry right now.

[Addy]

To infinity.

[Abby]

No and beyond.

[Addy]

And it's the in the up song. We're getting different.

[Abby]

That's the up song.

[Addy]

Oh, okay.

[Abby]

But the. It was really the title on it. It said, here he comes, world. Please be kind to him. I want to cry.

[Addy]

I started bawling at. I think I showed you that baseball with like the senior night.

[Abby]

Oh, that was sweet.

[Addy]

I couldn't stop sobbing. It was these kids, it was their senior night of baseball, and they had these senior boys go up to hit a home run or hit A ball tossed by their dad, with a letter being read to them that their parents wrote over the sound speaker. And then as they run around the bases for the last time, they run home to their. Oh, stop.

[Abby]

I didn't know.

[Coco]

This is sweet.

[Abby]

No, I can't.

[Addy]

It's rude.

[Coco]

I was.

[Addy]

Would it be rude?

[Abby]

It would be rude. No, that's my thing. It's that type of stuff, like kids growing up. And then also anything that shows two brothers, like, have you seen that video? I get targeted with this clip. Same clip all the time. It's apparently a tradition in Brazil for the first slice of birthday cake to go to the person that you love the most. And there's like this probably six year old boy, he hands a slice to his like 3 year old brother and his little brother starts crying and hugging him. And it's so sweet. And I cry every time.

[Addy]

Time.

[Abby]

And so I'm like, I haven't been that emotional. But here's the thing. I am already emotional. So I feel like I would have cried at those videos anyway. Sure. But then Matt uses that. He's like, here. He's like, you're pregnant. He's like, yeah, I know. Because I sit on the couch like crying, watching videos. And I was like, I would have done this anyway. Like, I don't feel. I feel like I felt very like roller coaster with my emotions both times. I don't know if it's because I'm in therapy now. That could be it.

[Coco]

You feel more process.

[Abby]

I'm working on emotional regulation. Let's just lay out my goals. Therapy.

[Addy]

Also. You were pregnant and postpartum at the same time.

[Abby]

I told Matt that because I was. I keep telling him like every day, which, I don't know. I didn't expect to feel this way with my third pregnancy. Every day I'm like, am I pregnant, Matt? Because something like I, I'm. I have dark dreams sometimes. Like things that, like, it's weird. Like I've never felt like, am I pregnant? But then I'm also like, it's because I don't feel symptoms like I did the other two times. Like I literally took a pregnancy test this week. I'm like, 11 weeks. That's weird.

[Addy]

And you had your ultrasound.

[Abby]

I had a sonic. I have a sonogram I could just look at and refer to.

[Addy]

But what are they talking about, your emotions being regulated?

[Abby]

I said, maybe I felt so bad the last pregnancy because I was four months postpartum and nursing the whole time and had a baby. Like, that's Kind of like, that was a tough thing to do. And so it makes sense. My body was feeling worse then than now. But also, every pregnancy is so different, too. And it's just. I forget that because Griffin and Augie, I felt so similar for, but, yeah, you never know what I feel like. Pregnancy, birth, they just want to throw curveballs at you all the time. Babies.

[Coco]

Yeah. And that being, like, your first experience of, like, having a baby and then immediately getting pregnant afterwards was your only experience.

[Abby]

Yeah.

[Addy]

With it.

[Coco]

And now it's like, you're gonna have two kids already for this next time. But, like, if you had, like, Griffin and Augie and then got pregnant it really quickly afterwards, you'd be like, oh, this is different. Like, I understand.

[Abby]

Yeah. I can't compare. That's all I had.

[Coco]

You didn't have a comparison.

[Abby]

Yeah. I feel pretty confident that that's not gonna happen this time either. Like, I'm like. I feel like we're gonna not do that.

[Coco]

Make sure that that does.

[Abby]

I think that's something that you really only do once, but I. I don't want to, like, Wait.

[Addy]

Sorry. You only do what? Oh, yeah.

[Abby]

I planned pregnancy one time.

[Addy]

I don't say that. That will never happen to me again.

[Abby]

I'm sweating my armpits. Think about it. I'm actually. That's stressful.

[Addy]

I just said to Addie, before we came in here, I was like, can you imagine not being nine months pregnant and three months finding how you're pregnant again?

[Coco]

I can't.

[Addy]

I think all the time with you.

[Abby]

With me?

[Coco]

Yeah. Like, because for me, already, I'm like, no, because I just. I'm so excited to have my body back.

[Abby]

It was. It was pure delusion.

[Coco]

I can't. I don't even know what the birth experience is, like, so adding that on.

[Abby]

Top of it, I had a double hernia repair.

[Addy]

Yeah.

[Coco]

That's just so insane. Well, that's also a fight or flight. That's so crazy.

[Abby]

But here's the thing about it, is that you literally. This will be. You'll find this in another way. Not the same way, but you literally do what you have to do. You do what? What you have to do. You, like, you.

[Coco]

You.

[Abby]

Whatever you're given, you will get through it.

[Addy]

Yeah.

[Abby]

And so it was. I was literally never an option to ever. Like.

[Addy]

Yeah.

[Abby]

Never mind. Like.

[Coco]

Yeah.

[Abby]

It was like, okay. So I do don't feel like there was ever a point that was, like, particularly overwhelming, except for the second I found out.

[Coco]

Yeah.

[Abby]

And then I was kind of like.

[Addy]

After That I was like, it is what it is.

[Abby]

It's go time. Like, well, there's like, an instinct that kicks in.

[Coco]

When she asked, like, that question, it brought me back to. I haven't necessarily liked when people have said, like, like, oh, you definitely don't want to have a C section, because the recovery is so much harder to me personally, because I've never given birth, so I wouldn't know that that's harder. And so, like, when people were saying that, I was like, this isn't. That's not helpful to know because I wouldn't know the difference. But going, like, thinking about it now and being like, the fact that I'm so excited to be able to move my body again. But then if I had a C section, it would take definitely a lot, a little bit longer to be able to, like, bend down and do those, like, normal things. I'm like. I'm like, oh, okay. I can start to figure out how that would be harder. I just wasn't at that point when people were telling me that thing.

[Abby]

Well, you know, some people do accidentally say things that I.

[Addy]

Did you say that? Is that why you're saying, no?

[Abby]

I didn't say. Did I say that?

[Coco]

No, I don't think so.

[Abby]

You know, I sure hope not.

[Coco]

But no, no. When I was going through the process of, like, potentially having to have a C section, she was transverse for a little bit. Like, you were so great to talk to about during that process.

[Abby]

Thank you. I think that's very nice. We should talk about that a little bit if you want to. But yeah, I was working out with someone the other day, and she was like, I'm someone that had a scheduled C section and will likely be having another one. And she was talking about. She's like, yeah, it's really important to work out because she was such a nice lady, too. I was not offended at all. But I was like, this is just a reminder. Because I'm sure I've said things where I'm like, okay, if I would have known the company I was in better, I wouldn't have said that. I definitely have done this too. But then she was like, yeah, it's really important to work out when you're pregnant, because some moms just get.

[Addy]

Get.

[Abby]

They're not in shape enough and they just get too tired when they're in labor and they have to have a C section. That's a crazy claim.

[Coco]

And I was like, a little crazy.

[Abby]

Yeah. Those lazy moms. Yeah. I literally didn't. I would never, like, want Anyone to feel awkward, especially because I'm just so on the side. I think I've learned this recently. I'm just so on the side of, like, I'm just gonna assume the best possible intent from people and like, like, or even just, like, they just didn't know. And I'm not gonna choose to, like, get offended. I feel like that's a personal choice. I'm learning, like, to get offended is a personal choice. And so I was like, I'm not gonna get offended. But it was so funny because I was like, what if I said right there, I was like, yeah, I had a C section. I couldn't quite cut it. Like crazy.

[Coco]

You pushed also so hard. Like, it wasn't even, like, it's just so funny. Lazy that you had to have a C section.

[Abby]

It's just so funny that that was like. Like, that's in her mind. Like, you have C sections because you are not fit enough to deliver baby.

[Coco]

Yeah. Not that. There's other complications.

[Abby]

You know what? People like, that exist and believe that. And she has kids too. So I'm like, that's.

[Coco]

It's so like, people. Just things people say. One of my neighbors, every time she sees me, she goes, oh, my goodness, you're looking so big. That baby's got to be so big. And she's like, what is it? Like a nine pound baby? I'm like, oh, she's in the 18th percentile.

[Addy]

I actually love comments like that. I'm like, like, that's actually so validating. I do feel huge.

[Abby]

I am a hippo.

[Addy]

Thank you for saying that. I do that. It's warranted.

[Abby]

That's crazy that she's saying that to you because I'm like, you are so.

[Coco]

Small, in my own opinion. And I could have. I could be delusional right now. I'm like, I don't feel like I look that big.

[Addy]

No, you look great.

[Abby]

Yeah. There is a certain delusion that doesn't. Not with you, but, like, with me. I look back, I was like, I felt so skinny at that point. I did it and I'm like, I literally. That's the thing about it is that, like, my face would get so puffy and my nose so huge at that point. Like, it's a protection thing. I was like, I thought my face looked normal and in fact, beautiful.

[Coco]

You were beautiful. You were.

[Abby]

And I'm just out here making videos and I look back at those, like, thumbnails too, and I'm like, oh, my gosh. She was like, all I see is Just neck. No joke on today.

[Coco]

I put this dress on.

[Abby]

It look like Humpty Dumpty cheeks filling the whole frame. I know. I love it.

[Addy]

I felt so skinny after I thought I was like, ooh, look out.

[Abby]

No, but yeah, it's really. You put those biker shorts on for the first time and you're just feeling.

[Addy]

Like, not so skinny. Surely my clothes will fit people. Your old clothes on, you're like, people.

[Abby]

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[Addy]

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[Abby]

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[Abby]

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[Podcast Host]

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[Abby]

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[Abby]

So Addy, you kind of brought this up a little bit, but talk about the time where they were like, telling you that Brielle wasn't in the best position.

[Coco]

Yeah.

[Abby]

How you felt.

[Coco]

Yeah, it was like, really? I had noticed for a while that it felt like she was sideways in my belly just cuz, like she would stick out like it would be. I don't like the McDonald's sign. Like, it was like, like, head on one side, but on the other, dog. Yeah, literally. And so I was, like, kind of nervous about it. So when we went into our 32 week appointment and she's like, okay, let me feel. And she's like, I don't feel a head down there. And I was like, okay, cool, cool. She's like, don't worry about it until, like, we go, you have your growth scan. And I was like, okay, I'm really worried about it. And so, because I. I've said this on the podcast, I've told you guys before that I was like, whatever happens, happens. I don't really have a plan. Like, if she comes naturally, great. If she comes C section, great. I didn't really care. And as, like, you progress through the pregnancy, you're like, doing this naturally would be great. Like, well, not naturally, but vaginally would be great. Like, that that's what I would really want. Like, I'm envisioning that of what the delivery is going to look like. And so when they told me she was transverse, I was like, okay, so now there's a high potential. I have to have a C section. And I. And they're like, she can still flip. But I'm like, no, there's no way she's going to do that. And so we got in the car and I just start bawling because I'm like, grieving. Grief seems like a strong word. But the, like, what that could have been, like a vaginal delivery and, like, envisioning her coming out and getting set on my chest and just being able to be present for some reason with a C section. It, like, scared me that I wouldn't be able to, like, touch her if my arms were down or, like, hold her right away. She'd get taken out of the room, all the things. And so it was really, like, hard for me to process. And it was interesting to watch Blake and that, like, try and support me through it because he's like, she's healthy. I'm like, I. I'm so happy she's healthy, but also I'm trying to process what this would look like to, like, do it differently with a C section. I talked to a couple people about it, like, sat down with you because I just wanted to start processing if I did have a C section, what that would look like instead of just wishing it away and be like, no, she's gonna flip. She's gonna flip. And never thinking about it. I got to a point where I was like, There are some benefits that I would like personally as a type A person that I'm like, this is when she would be born, and I can plan for it and we can make sure family is here on the day she's born and getting to, like, actually have the schedule and do those things. And so then I was like, okay, I'm starting to feel a lot better about that situation. And then we went into her girl scan and she'd flipped and she was head down. And so then it kind of, like, pushed all that away. But it was nice to have, like, you've had a C section. You've had a C section. Like, having people around me that I'm like, they were fine. It's normal. It's okay. You're not cheating birth. You're not doing anything different. It's just the way that, like, the birth happens. And so I think it was good to have, like, support. But then it was also learning how people talk about C sections during that period of time, too. Of, like, sometimes people do say things that they shouldn't say to people when they're in that period of time, which was kind of interesting too.

[Abby]

Yeah, I get that a lot. Yeah.

[Coco]

I feel that they're like, no, you're not going to do it. You don't have to. You're. You're not going to get a C section. You're not. I'm like, no, no. I need you to help me process the fact that I might get a C section so that I'm okay if that happens instead of, like, being really, really, really disappointed.

[Abby]

Yeah.

[Coco]

And so just having the support in a different way during that time. I think you can be supportive and be like, no, she could totally flip. Like, that's definitely a possibility. But let's make sure you're mentally prepared in case it doesn't happen that way. And I think that was, like, really healthy for me to do because I clearly broke down the second I thought I was gonna have a C section. So now it's, like, a little bit different.

[Abby]

I feel like you dealt with that too, after CJ too, just kind of, like, correct me if I'm wrong. The least planned. Like, I'm not a planner. I didn't plan my birth at all. But even me, I had, like, preconceived ideas I didn't realize I had until things didn't align and I was like, oh, just. It hadn't go wrong for me to realize I had some. I had a plan for it going right in my head. You had more of some of that with cj.

[Coco]

Totally.

[Addy]

Yeah. I was the same going in. I'm like, I don't know what I'm doing. I'm just gonna go with the flow and see how it goes. I don't have, you know, just want the baby to come out healthy and everyone be safe. So, yeah, I felt the same way when things started to shift then during labor, and I've been pushing for a long time. And then you got sick, had to go to the C section. The deflate that I felt inside was extremely devastating. And then I felt afterwards, I felt a lot of rage because I didn't really have time in the moment to process anything. Like, I felt like I was almost like I was cheating myself. Like, no, I can do it. I can do it. And then having to be the one to say, like, no, I actually have to do this other way. It felt very hard to make that decision in the moment. So it's really healthy even if you're not, I don't know, maybe even just before labor, just processing. What would that look like if my doctors came in and said, hey, things have taken a turn and you have to have a C section for safety? Like, what? You know, I think it'd probably be healthy to process that before. I've been trying to do that too this time. Like, okay, I'm going in for vbac. What if the doctors come in and say, hey, it's not working for you? You know, how would I feel in those moments? And trying to, like, pre feel that? So I think it's good that in healthy that you. You've been processing that.

[Coco]

I have a question for, like, an emergency C section. Like, you had. How quickly is it when you're. And tell me if this is too much. Like, you're pushing and they're like, oh, no, we gotta. We gotta change direction. Go to a. Like, how long does that take?

[Abby]

Well, it was an emergency.

[Addy]

It technically wasn't. It was. And it wasn't. Like, the situation was emergent. Like, they're like, you cannot push anymore. We highly, like, don't recommend that you keep pushing. It's been three and a half hours. You have an infection, Baby's heart rate is decelerating. But when I would stop pushing, things kind of, like, calmed. So There was about 30 minutes there.

[Abby]

I felt like it was. Took forever where I was like, do the thing. Like, especially since you'd already decided. Yeah, it was like, I feel like that's kind of uncommon, but maybe I'm wrong.

[Addy]

Yeah. So it wasn't I feel like it was an app.

[Abby]

It was only 30 minutes.

[Addy]

I think it was only 30 minutes. Yeah. Because I was in an excruciating pain because his head was so low.

[Abby]

Yeah.

[Addy]

I had seen his head the whole time. I had a mirror so I. I could see how low he was. Like, I saw the top of his head for about an hour and a half. So he's there in my birth canal. And then I had to lay on my side. It was the most. That was really super painful because he was right there, like, get him out. But then it made him. It hard getting him out the other way, too, because he was so low.

[Coco]

Yeah.

[Addy]

But, yeah, it technically wasn't emergent. Like, I wasn't rushed back there.

[Coco]

Okay. Because I was wondering.

[Abby]

Because I think they can do it fast, though.

[Coco]

When we were at the hospital, I think they had said, like, they could. This is where the OR is if you're having an emergency C section, and we can get you there within 45 seconds. 45 seconds to 60 seconds.

[Addy]

And I was like, that's so cool.

[Coco]

Wow, that's. I. That makes sense. If the baby's really in distress, you need to do that so quickly. But I was like, that's so fast to think about.

[Addy]

It'll be kind of interesting this time since I'm going for a vbac, which is a vaginal birth after cesarean. They're just different risks that come with that. That. And there is kind of like a. I was talking to my doctor about it. I want to delay my epidural as long as I can keep moving during labor. But also, there's this risk where if you have to get rushed into an emergency C section and you don't have an epidural, they have to put you under general anesthesia and you're asleep for the birth because they don't have enough time if something happens, like your uterine ruptures or things like that, which is extremely, extremely rare. But it is kind of playing to your decision of when you would get. Get anesthesia, an epidural or not. So, yeah, that's kind of like an interesting.

[Coco]

That's definitely a decision. Like, that's. That's scary to, like, think about.

[Addy]

I had a moment of fear a couple months ago. At this point, I felt really, really good for, like, half the pregnancy. And then I think once I hit the third trimester, I had that week of bad anxiety where I was just panicking about the thought of having a uterine rupture and all these complications. And in My head. I was like, I'm just the unlucky one. I'm the one that the bad things happen. Happened to in birth, apparently, you know, like, that was just. The lies were getting to me. So I just had to be very intentional that week about praying and, like, processing those fears with community, with you guys and friends. And I talked to a lot of people about it, and I felt way better after that. And my doctors were super positive, but I'm like, okay, if that happens. I had to just think about those things. But I didn't have any more peace in my mind. Just scheduling a C section. I just really want to try again.

[Abby]

Yeah.

[Addy]

So I feel really confident in that, and my doctors are very supportive of it. But then it's like, okay, now I have to weigh the cost of. I don't know, just be aware of these things during birth and labor, which I had a lot of anger about that. I'm like, I'm just so annoyed. I have to think about these things now. Every time I want to have a baby and push it out, I have to think about these risks on my life or this baby's life, you know?

[Coco]

Yeah. I feel like you might. Well, it might not be, but I'm like, if you did have a successful one, you'd feel more confident going into, like, the next one, totally being able to it successfully, but then still being, like, still could have a C section, you know, even with the. With the next.

[Addy]

And honestly, it's like, even if I have a failed VBAC and I just have to have a C section, it's not a big deal. I think I would accept that. I think it'd be easier for me to accept, okay, my next babies will be C sections. But this time it felt like, oh, I think I can try things differently before, to maybe try to have a different outcome. So I want to at least try.

[Abby]

I feel very positive for you.

[Addy]

I really do.

[Coco]

I will say that's one thing. I think everyone is very positive to each other. But I think that's something I've really noticed, like, throughout my pregnancy and like, your guys' and just like our community, which I guess everyone is. I. But I'm just never noticed how positive we are to each other, that we're gonna, like, have things successfully the way we want to. Like, we're just.

[Abby]

I know that you're. I just know that you're gonna have a great delivery.

[Coco]

You both have said. And I'm like, so being, like, nice to say that. But also it'd be really Weird to be like, I don't know. I'm not feeling like it's gonna go well for you. I don't know.

[Abby]

I also just like, someone that just has. I trust my gut a lot. I trust my gut way more than I probably should.

[Addy]

I have an eternal optimist.

[Coco]

You've been right.

[Abby]

I also am an optimist.

[Coco]

Well, here's the thing is you guys telling me that. I'm like, they think it's gonna go well, so it's gonna go well.

[Addy]

I just think it's gonna go well.

[Coco]

It's. So. Yeah, I think maybe it's just people online that are always, like, the negative side of things, you know?

[Abby]

Definitely. Okay. I will be honest. I feel that poll sometimes where you feel a little bit of jealousy, like, you have, like, your expectation. I'll be honest, like, that. I. I don't ever want to acknowledge this part about myself. I. But sometimes I feel it when people have, like, a dreamy birth experience. I feel myself being, like. Like, I had to acknowledge that. Like, I'm just like, yeah. And I'm like, that's so ugly. I never want to be that person. So it just. I had to, like, acknowledge it in myself. I literally told Matt one day. I was like, sometimes when people have a positive, happy, amazing birth experience, I just. I feel it's. The feeling was competitive. And I was like, that's because I associated the outcome of a birth with, like, some type of achievement, like, a personal achievement, rather than. It's like, just this thing that happens. It's a medical thing that happens with you and your baby and your anatomy, and there's just a bunch of things aligning. And it was like. It was like, so much of my pride was tied up in the outcome of how my baby exited my body. And then when I finally was like, you know what? There's a lot of factors that actually have nothing to do with my ability as a person, as a woman, as. Like, there's just so many things tied up and so many emotions and, like, pride attached to this. And I think when I acknowledged that in myself, I was like, okay, I can actually have freedom from this now. Like, it's actually, like, you can have an amazing experience. I can. Mine can look differently. And it's like, it's actually all fine, and it's not. It's not like, some, like, grade I'm gonna get on a report card.

[Addy]

Like, Abby, you're giving me some conviction.

[Abby]

No, I'm not trying to hide what I'm feel.

[Coco]

No, I think it's also important.

[Abby]

I think it happens both ways, too. Like, if you have a really great birth experience, you're thinking in your head, which I don't think that this is necessarily wrong, but, like, I did everything right so that this happened. I must be really tough and really strong. And I'm actually gonna get bonus points if I don't do an epidural. And I don't get. Like, you kind of start to think these things.

[Addy]

Yeah.

[Abby]

And it's, like, weird, because I'm like, I don't want to feel that way. I would never voice this out loud. I would never. But then I would. Like, when I told Matt, I feel like her husbands are, like, the safest person because they don't understand. Because they can't. They're a man. They. They don't understand the way that this is just so attached to identity in a way, like, especially womanhood, like, femininity. It can be attached. And so I was like, I have to just say this because I'm like. It's just brewing in me. Like, whenever someone has, like, this great birth experience, especially if it's, like, unmedicated, and they just, like, did it, I feel kind of, like, bitter. And I was like, oh, that felt so good to say. I was like, I'm for you.

[Coco]

It's always once you say it, then you can start processing and being like, okay, I know I shouldn't be feeling this way.

[Abby]

Pushing it down.

[Addy]

Yeah.

[Abby]

I was like, I don't want to feel that way. That's so wrong. Like, that is so wrong. And, like, it doesn't make that. Not wrong to think that. But, like, I think acknowledging I was like, okay, I can work through this now. Like, I can just, like, start to, like, actually, like, hey, that's not. That's not kind of friend I want to be to people. That's not how I want to also view myself. Like, I don't want to equate my own, like. Like, worth, like, with how my birth. Like, it sounds so dumb to say, but it happened to me. It was weird.

[Addy]

Dang, Abby.

[Abby]

I'll confess.

[Addy]

I'm gonna confess I don't feel bitter when other people have great, positive birth experiences. But I think I probably do have some pride being like, oh, I can do it. I know I can do it.

[Abby]

And I think, you gotta have some grit in labor.

[Addy]

No, I have grit, but I think there's pride where it's like, oh, I. I'm not gonna lose. You know what I mean? It's like a win and A little. Yeah. And I thought, last time I lost. And so now it's like, oh, okay, I'm gonna pray about that one.

[Abby]

Yeah. I felt like I kind of just, like, sat down and took a loss.

[Addy]

With the last one.

[Abby]

I'm like, I didn't even try.

[Coco]

I feel like it's really important for people who do have, like, good experiences to share those too. I feel like sometimes.

[Abby]

Totally.

[Coco]

Okay. This is. It's a very sensitive area for a lot of people, and I know people want to be very sensitive on how they talk about their birth and how they talk about their experiences. Because. Because other people have very hard times with it. But we also need to hear the good stories, because I do feel like most people I've talked to are people with negative experiences. I feel like most people don't brag about having a good birth experience. Most people do talk about how poorly it went for them.

[Abby]

See, I feel the opposite, because I was looking at. Through my lens. Yeah.

[Addy]

Maybe that's what I was saying.

[Coco]

I can think of maybe one or two people who have had a positive experience. Not positive. Like, positive as in, like, it was how they had planned for it to go. And I think that's like. I'm like, oh, okay. So my odds are stacked against me for this to go this way as planned, you know, which is interesting. But I don't know if that's just because I haven't had a birth yet. I haven't had those experiences. So the way I'm viewing what other people are saying is different than, like, once you've had a kid.

[Addy]

I feel like I know so many people that have had positive.

[Abby]

Yeah, me too.

[Coco]

Maybe. I'm surrounded by all of you guys who have had bad ones. So your family is bad company. I told myself, I said, I gotta be the one that's got a good one. We gotta have one of the free.

[Abby]

I feel bad that mine is. You view mine as a bad one because I don't view it that way.

[Coco]

Bad, I think. Just like you had. You had complications.

[Addy]

Yeah. With that.

[Coco]

And that's. That's more of the not bad. Bad. And good is not the right terms. I would just say, like, complications.

[Abby]

I actually had to tell Matt that I was like. The way you talk about Griffin's birth makes me feel scared. I didn't even feel scared. And I lived it at that moment. Like, I didn't. Like, I was like, he's like, it was so much blood. Like, which actually kind of makes me like. Like, I want to talk about the Husbands going into this, like, how do we think the men are going to do becoming a dad for the first time, Becoming a dad of two, I'm excited to see. I know Blake is terrified about the birth experience. He's like, I just want the baby here. Like, he's.

[Coco]

He's more on the anxious side of.

[Abby]

Yeah, he's like my. My dad. Like, he's like, Well, I think also they, like, can't really do anything. So then they're just like, I want to be able. Cuz men love to fix things. That's just the stereotype. And so when there's nothing they can do to fix anything, like, tangibly, I think they just feel, like, defeated a little bit. But once she's here, I'll be like, okay, I can hold her, I can feed her, I can change her diaper. Like, those types of things.

[Coco]

I'm so excited to see him, like, support me, because I feel like you don't really get that until something like this. Like, we haven't had a major thing happen in our life where I really need Blake's, like, physical support there for me other than, like, small things. So I'm excited to see how he kind of just shows up during that time. The closer and closer it gets. He's starting to, like, process the fact that, like, he's gonna need more time off work or, like, doing those.

[Addy]

Yeah.

[Abby]

Blake said he was gonna take a couple days off. Two days.

[Coco]

Two days, which you had talked about. Caleb didn't take a ton off, but now, like, oh, I think he can work from home. Yes, Blake can work from home. And he just started a new job, so he doesn't want to, like, take advantage or use all of his.

[Abby]

Should we shout them out right now?

[Coco]

Shout out to the husband and wife law team.

[Abby]

They've been awesome.

[Coco]

They've been awesome getting this job and.

[Abby]

The timing, everything, all these baby gifts.

[Coco]

And he's only worked for them for, like, three weeks now. And just him getting to experience a positive work environment. And they love him. He loves a job. Like, it's just so sweet to see. And so that there every day, he sent something. He sent. They, like, hit a goal of theirs, and he, like, sent a screenshot, and everyone was like, I thought this was going to be a baby announcement, but that's also great things. And so everyone is telling him that, like, they'll make it work. As long as he needs to work from home, he can, and they'll work with him. And so I think it's making him think, oh, all these people are parents and understand know that I'm gonna need more time at home during that period of time.

[Abby]

And so if he can, you know.

[Coco]

I think he'll probably go in a couple days a week. I mean, my mom's gonna be here, too, but I feel like during that time, it's. I'm gonna be like, I won't.

[Abby]

Blake, how much interaction do you want me to have?

[Addy]

Let's just.

[Abby]

Let's just hash this out right now. As much as you want.

[Coco]

Honestly, as much as you want.

[Abby]

I don't believe you.

[Coco]

No, I seriously don't think I'm gonna be the person. I'm gonna be the person that people come and drop stuff off, and I'm gonna be like, no, come inside. Like, come meet the baby, too. I know it's exciting for you, too. That's, like, how I think I'm gonna feel.

[Abby]

How will you tell me? Like, how about you just send me an emoji? If it's like, please stay, send me the bagel. Emoji bagel.

[Addy]

I feel like you'll be pretty blunt about it.

[Coco]

I think I will. I'm the one person I know I can be, like, the most blunt with is my mom, which I need to work on, too, of, like, being nicer to her, too. I've talked about. It's a conviction. I'm working on it. She knows, too. I tell her, too. So she's aware that I'm aware.

[Abby]

She's aware that I'm aware. But I feel like she's always her mom.

[Coco]

She's the one person I can be like, I don't want you around right now. Like, could. Could you please leave, like, Or. I need you to do this, and I can tell her to do it. I think I'm gonna want maybe, like, groups of people there at a time where I'm like, you guys can be there or you can be there. I feel like having, like, all of my family there and then also other people and trying to host is where it's gonna feel like too much versus if, like, one or two people are there and then I'm not hosting. I'm like, y' all are either cleaning something or holding the baby, and I'm just hanging out. Like, that's what I feel like. I'm gonna feel you.

[Abby]

We'll see.

[Coco]

So I definitely want you guys.

[Abby]

So bring Griffin and Augie.

[Coco]

Oh, yes.

[Abby]

Please bring Griffin. You mean that?

[Coco]

Yes.

[Abby]

Okay. I said I wasn't gonna bring them. And then my mom goes. I think she wants them I'm like, mom, I don't think she.

[Coco]

I want them in the hospital.

[Abby]

So now we're getting this. No, I'm just kidding.

[Coco]

I want.

[Abby]

Everyone knows I asked. Everyone knows I asked.

[Coco]

This is the first time she's asked.

[Abby]

You're not gonna know how you. You feel, though.

[Coco]

Like, no, I think I'm.

[Abby]

I.

[Coco]

They are so excited too. Like. Like, Griffin totally understands, like, that Brielle's coming and that there's a baby in my belly. And so, like, I'm so excited to see their reactions and to see them, like, interact with her. So, yes, I want you guys. I want you both to come to the hospital. I want your kids to both come to the hospital.

[Abby]

Baby out. Come to the hospital.

[Addy]

Yes.

[Coco]

Well, yeah, Baby out.

[Abby]

You can come or wait in the way.

[Coco]

You can come in the baby. Baby in too, if you want to hang. If I'm in labor for a while, you can. There's no visitor. You can come any time of the day. During that. I don't know how I'm gonna feel. Alice Blake, need some girl support, like, to take a break, but take a break. No, I think I'm definitely going to want you guys around during that time. I'm. There's surely going to be times where I'm going to want to get out of my house. And I'm like, can I just come over with Brielle, you know, and do that too? You guys are planning, like, swim lessons for the kids. And I'm like, can I just come with Brielle? Like, obviously she's not going to be in swim lessons, but can I just come sit with her?

[Abby]

Sit on the couch?

[Coco]

Yeah, sit on the couch and watch your kids swim.

[Abby]

Seeing Griffin's reaction to, like, you're pregnancy with Brielle made me certain that I do want to find out the gender of this baby. Because I was like, he is so, like, locked in on Brielle and, like, as being part of the family, like, he literally told me the other day, he's like, that's gonna be Brielle's room. I'm like, she's actually not gonna live with us. Like, that is like, he talks about her all the time and, like, he, like, knows, like, baby girl, she's coming. She's gonna live with Addie and Coco. Me, my cousin. Like, he's really wrapped his head around it more, I think.

[Coco]

Odd.

[Abby]

He is kind of there, but, like, really for Griffin, I was like, I want to be able to, like, have a name for this baby and then be Able to know, like, brother or sister. Because I feel like it's.

[Addy]

He's.

[Abby]

He can really conceptualize this.

[Coco]

Yeah.

[Abby]

Because it's like, she has a person.

[Coco]

See like, how much he's conceptualized it. And so I'm so excited for him.

[Abby]

We're looking at stuffed animals because he's all of a sudden into stuffed animals, which is so funny because he never cared about them. And then now, Matt, he's, like, sleeping in his big bed. He's like, like, I need these. And he was like. We were looking at. I was like, oh. I said, you've had this one since you're a baby. You want to sleep with it. He goes, maybe for Brielle. Like, he wants to give it to her. Like, he's, like, really wrapping his head around this. So I think that's because I was like, matt, we could not find out since we both don't care. He was like, no. And then I was like, actually, I think it would be good for Griffin.

[Coco]

But, yeah, it would be good for him to, like, start preparing and, like, understanding, actualizing.

[Abby]

But I also feel like we've been talking about it way too much to her because I'm like, February is, like, 10 years in his brain right now. Like, what am I doing bringing it up? Brother or sister? And then, like, he's always like, maybe check. Like, he doesn't want to guess.

[Coco]

Maybe check.

[Abby]

Maybe check.

[Addy]

He asked you to check.

[Abby]

No, he will never guess. Oh, he says that he wants a sister, but he will never guess because he literally is. I think that he's kind of let toddler, like, very literal. Like, he's like, I'm not gonna guess.

[Coco]

Oh.

[Abby]

And she's like, he always says, maybe check. We'll ask him tonight, see what he says. Maybe check.

[Addy]

Oh, my gosh. That's so funny.

[Abby]

Yeah. But, Abby, you're gonna be surprised.

[Addy]

I am.

[Abby]

Abby, be honest. Would you feel gender disappointment if you had another boy?

[Addy]

No. I was just talking to Kilb about this, and I think if. Because I've always wanted a girl, and I was not disappointed at all with cj I was so excited to have a little boy. I was like, oh, my gosh, it's so great. But then with the second second, I think if I had found out 20 weeks, I maybe would have felt a little bit at the beginning of a little bit gender disappointment if it was a little boy. Because, you know, you just have the expectations or the hope. Like, oh, maybe this pregnancy will be different. Like, maybe we'll have another gender to, like, Experience. But because we're waiting until birth, the minute you meet your baby, you could literally care less. You're like, this is the most amazing little boy or little girl I've ever seen in my life. Like, I don't know. You're just so excited, and immediately you're like, this is our favorite. And so because it's so immediate, you don't have time to be disappointed.

[Abby]

Yeah.

[Addy]

So no.

[Abby]

Well, then misread you after CJ because you were like, I'm gonna have to find out next time, because.

[Addy]

No, I think I did say that.

[Abby]

Yeah, you did say that.

[Addy]

I'm a hypocrite sometimes.

[Abby]

Well, because I thought you felt a little disappointment. So then you were like, I need to find out next time. So I don't feel this.

[Addy]

No, I didn't feel disappointed that C.J. was a boy. I felt like, oh, okay, there's one pregnancy down. My odds are getting smaller of having a girl, like, with every pregnancy that I mentioned. No, I just felt the pressure.

[Abby]

Okay.

[Addy]

Yeah. I'm like, okay, pressure's on. Next pregnancy.

[Abby]

Yeah.

[Addy]

You know what I mean? But I. There have been so many things this pregnancy that I very strongly feel that this baby is a girl. So then if this baby is a boy, the excitement and the shock will be so crazy. Like, it'll be the craziest surprise that it'll be so fun. Like, I'll be so excited if it's a little boy. Now we don't have a name. Either way, we have a girl name picked out. We're, like, so convinced this baby's a girl. And if the baby goes out to be a boy, it's gonna be like, oh, my God.

[Coco]

Rock your world.

[Addy]

Yeah, it's gonna be hilarious. It's gonna be so fun. So, yeah.

[Abby]

Did the doctor slip up on the gender?

[Addy]

Yes, but I don't know. They said it both ways. They did it again.

[Abby]

No, they said it both ways with cj.

[Addy]

Yeah. But this baby, they said both ways too.

[Abby]

Oh, okay.

[Coco]

What was the first way they said it?

[Abby]

I'm not gonna say it was girly. That's why she's so confident. She told one of our other friends. Friends.

[Coco]

Shoot.

[Addy]

I need to keep my lips locked. Well, so the. The ultrasound tech said kind of early, like, oh, she. But then later was like, okay, I'm looking at, like, how to close her eyes because she was looking at the biological or, you know, the parts on there. She's like, close your eyes. I'm gonna do gender confirmation now. So I don't know I'm like, did she just say that because she was filling in the blank? Because I know a lot of people that that's happened to, too.

[Coco]

I guess hip is a thing I was going to say. I'm going to ask the ultrasound tech, but she wouldn't tell.

[Addy]

That would be crazy. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, that'd be hilarious. She's like, oh, yeah, it's a. Yeah.

[Coco]

She just tells me.

[Addy]

She's like, no, maybe I'll have a lawsuit and then I can make some money.

[Abby]

Okay.

[Addy]

Yeah, I'll go for that.

[Coco]

Let's do it. Let's plan this together.

[Addy]

Yeah.

[Abby]

This would be evidence in court.

[Addy]

Shoot.

[Abby]

Darn, that's funny. How do you think Caleb's going to adjust to having to, too?

[Addy]

I think he'll do great. Yeah, he'll do great. I think he's pretty adaptable, which is good. He's just started saying things recently where he's like, oh, my gosh, six weeks. Like, it's just kind of, like, hitting it. Well, it's just kind of hitting me, too. You know, we always process that for the fact. And so he's like, oh, whoa, wait, six weeks. This baby's gonna be here six weeks. He's like, we gotta prepare. And in my head, I keep telling him there's no, what do we need? What do we need to prepare for? You know, in my head, I'm like, baby eats off the boot and sleeps in the bassinet by our bed. And maybe we'll come back and answer this question after you have the baby, and I'll tell you if it's been good or bad.

[Abby]

How do you think C.J. is going to adjust to being an older brother?

[Addy]

Oh, he's going to do so good. He's going to do so good. He's so excited. He keeps looking. This is another, like, weird thing I've never asked him or told him. Like, I'll be like, do you think you're going to have a baby brother? Baby sister and I have some of our friends that have a little girl, but do you think it's going to be like Daisy or like Augie? Because he's only a small, little baby boy. We know, not small to the same.

[Abby]

Age, but I'm like, tiny little baby.

[Addy]

You have a brother like Augie or a sister like Daisy? And every time he looks at an ultrasound or my belly, he says, baby sister A. Yeah. And I'll be like, are you sure? It could be a brother? And he says, no every time. So he'll be shocked. It's not scientific, but he'll just call to me. I'm like, okay, it's a girl. Yeah.

[Abby]

That's so sweet.

[Addy]

He's really sweet. He's excited. Girl.

[Coco]

They can be little best friends. Yeah, they'll be best friends either way.

[Addy]

They for sure will be. They'll be little hip buddies.

[Coco]

Yes. Yeah.

[Abby]

C.J.

[Addy]

Always lifts my shirt and, like, says hi to baby and kiss his baby, and he's. He loves, like, laying next to me and, like, talking to baby. It's so sweet.

[Abby]

That is sweet.

[Addy]

Yeah, he's excited.

[Coco]

Griffin gave my stomach a kiss the other day, and then Augie ran up and gave it a kiss. I don't think Auggie necessarily knows what's going on, but he does give it a kiss.

[Abby]

He does. Does. That's why when Griffin says sister, he says it back. Like, he just does whatever. I'm like, he is just a little mirror of Griffin.

[Coco]

That made me think of the other day. We were at ice cream, and I asked Griffin. I said, do you think Wrigley or Rizzo's gonna, like, Brielle more?

[Abby]

Oh, yeah. And.

[Coco]

And he goes, maybe bite her.

[Abby]

Like, he's worried the dogs are gonna.

[Coco]

The dogs are gonna bite her.

[Abby]

I was like, that's so sweet. Also, at ice cream. Cream we went to. I was just talking about girlfriend constantly. We love August so much, too. Like, but.

[Coco]

Oh, you came up and gave me. He would not get away. Like, he was, like, on top of me at the gym today, just rolling over me, giving me hugs. I was like, I love you so much.

[Abby]

He randomly will just get, like, so lovey.

[Coco]

He was so lovey.

[Abby]

Or randomly so violent. He goes both ways. Like, I'm like, can I have a kiss? He goes, but he's, like, laughing. He's like, not. Not. It's weird, but it is also just her own, too. But at ice cream, we went to go wash Griffin's hands, and I asked Blake and Addie if they. I was like, can you just keep an eye on Augie? And then Griffin comes back out the door, and he goes, keep my brother safe. And then he comes back out. Did you keep my brother safe?

[Addy]

He doesn't trust you.

[Coco]

Yeah, I know. My mom was there, too, you know, like, she was.

[Addy]

He was.

[Abby]

She got on so seriously, he's like, keep brother.

[Addy]

Yeah, he did.

[Coco]

It was so sweet.

[Abby]

I was like, he's so protective.

[Coco]

He was chilling. He was just spilling his ice from everywhere. It was great.

[Abby]

My kid hit Augie, too, by accident. Hit him something with the. In the Head. And Griffin was asking why he was crying. I was like, because I was holding him. I was like, he accidentally got hit by, like, this kid's name, and then this girl came by, like, five or 10 minutes later, and he says, you hit my brother. Don't do it again. So I've never. I've never once had have, like, put those words into his mouth at all. Like, he just has this fierce protector type of thing, and I feel like CJ could have that, too. Just, like, be, like, a little sweet protector. I feel like he's gonna be so gentle and so sweet, hopefully.

[Addy]

Yeah, he'll be sweet.

[Abby]

It's good to feel like you have, like, a role in a family. Like, Augie, too. He has his own role. He loves being the baby. He. He sees other babies as, like, baby, baby. He's like, wants me to call him the baby.

[Coco]

Yeah.

[Abby]

I'm like, yeah, I'm like, your mommy's baby. And he, like, loves that. It's so sweet. Whereas if I call Griffin a baby, he'd be like, no, I'm a big boy. He would correct me. Augie's like, I'm a baby.

[Addy]

It'll be crazy to see how they. When this baby comes in February, Augie will be two and a half. He'll be much. I mean, that's a big.

[Coco]

He'll be much older.

[Addy]

I mean, in all developmental ways, I feel like two to two and a half is huge, so it'll be crazy to see how they all are with baby.

[Abby]

I know.

[Addy]

Do you feel like Matt and you.

[Abby]

We could all be having girls, and then we would even the playing field.

[Addy]

Oh, my gosh. That'd be crazy.

[Abby]

Why am I so certain I'm not having a girl?

[Addy]

I know you're a boy, Mom.

[Coco]

I think it's a boy.

[Abby]

I would love. I love.

[Addy]

So fun.

[Abby]

I literally have no preference, but I would, like. I would. I just don't feel like I can picture a girl, which is so funny because you have a boy, and you're like, I can picture a girl. So I'm like, maybe this is true. Like, maybe I am genuinely not going to have a. Because I cannot picture it.

[Coco]

Matt had talked about you maybe finding out early, like, doing a podcast, and I was like, please, I want to know.

[Addy]

I want to know.

[Coco]

I want you to.

[Abby]

Matt has gotten so. I'm like, what is it about the third that's making you like? He's like, if it's a girl, I'm gonna need to prepare. What are you gonna do?

[Addy]

It will Be such a shift for your family.

[Coco]

It'll be completely different.

[Abby]

Totally.

[Addy]

This is different energy.

[Abby]

I can totally see another boy coming in. I can picture that so well. But I'm like, a girl would be so fun and exciting and I feel like if I never have a girl, I don't know that disappointment's the right word. But I'm just like, I would because I've always thought that I would have all boys. But I feel like I'm like, it'd be so fun to have like a girl, especially as an adult children. Be so fun to have like an adult daughter friend.

[Coco]

Yes.

[Abby]

Because you like kind of graduate to that point where you are friends with your kids. And I'm like, I don't know. I always think that. But then I'm like, I just can't picture. But I would love it.

[Coco]

And like in all areas, it'd be great. Like, I would love if it was all girls. They'd just be little best friends. I would love if we had two little girls and then you had a boy and then our girl. Girls pick on your boy.

[Abby]

Yeah.

[Coco]

Or if you both have toys and then Brielle is just the center of attention.

[Abby]

Any combo is great.

[Coco]

Any combo is so great. I love it. I can see all of the above.

[Addy]

So fun.

[Coco]

Yes.

[Abby]

They scheduled Addie's induction for literally was supposed to be yesterday.

[Coco]

It was supposed to be yesterday. I so when I was at the doctor on Monday, it was my 39 week appointment. I had talked about scheduling a 41 week induction induction. She had said, let's talk about it at your 39 week appointment so that we can get you on the schedule. Because sometimes it takes a while to get on the schedule. It's like cool. She was like asking my preference days. I was like, a Thursday, a Friday or Saturday. Like those are in that order. The preference. I get a message on Wednesday that my induction is scheduled for the next day, as in yesterday.

[Abby]

Which would do like a several calls.

[Coco]

To 39 weeks and five days. Days would have been my induction date. And I was like, I think this is wrong. Like sending messages. And they're like not replying. So I call them and they're like, okay, we'll send a note over to them. I'm like, can someone just tell me that I don't have to come in tomorrow? Like, I don't want to get in trouble for not coming in.

[Abby]

They're like, this is the hospital calling for pre registration.

[Coco]

Called me for pre registration. I was like, they said they were gonna message you to cancel this. And she goes, oh, I did get a message one minute ago. And then like I go back to my portal and it still says.

[Abby]

And they're like, like, literally.

[Coco]

I don't know why I was freaking out so much.

[Abby]

I did feel like it was like you had to show up.

[Coco]

Here's the thing. It was also tempting to be like, should I just go? You know, I'm like, I want to meet her so bad. And then I'm like, no, let's wait. Let's wait till 41 weeks and then we can go in. Give her a whole another week to cook, see if she comes on her own. And so I got it changed and they got me scheduled. So I'll have a 41 week induction either way.

[Abby]

The likelihood that she will be here year next week at this time is like so high.

[Coco]

I know, I know.

[Addy]

Does that feel hard? Crazy that like the waiting period.

[Coco]

The waiting period is so hard. It's such a weird period because technically you're waiting, I mean the whole time. But after like 38 weeks you're like, okay, they really could come anytime technically. And so I'm ready at that point because I'm a planner. I always want to be like, the bags are packed, have been packed since 38 weeks and nothing's happened yet. And also with like plan plans or people coming in town or family being here or like talking about. There's not, there's not a lot of pressure with like work stuff. Like, you guys are so flexible. But I'm like, I could have my baby today and not be working tomorrow. But then my. Because I'm just like, my brain is always on like what needs to be done. And so I'm like, how do you even prepare?

[Abby]

I think about that with teachers a lot too, because they literally teach until they go in and like they have to have sub plans like ready probably the that entire time for like whenever it could happen. I'm like, that's crazy.

[Coco]

That's how I feel. I'm like, nope, I'm still here.

[Abby]

That she was teaching.

[Coco]

That's so crazy. And so the waiting period is so weird. But like what I realized Today being exactly 40 weeks today, I'm like, the likelihood of my baby, obviously she's going to come by Friday of next week, but coming naturally this week versus the previous week is so much higher. And so, so it really now could be any day now.

[Abby]

So what do you think you're gonna do differently this time post baby than you did last time?

[Addy]

I haven't thought that much about postpartum. To be honest, I feel like I've been up in my mindset has been labor.

[Abby]

So I'll just text Caleb.

[Addy]

Yeah, I feel like when I'm in the hospital and the baby's in my arms and it's like, okay, how do I plan for postpartum?

[Coco]

Yeah, well, it's hard to also know like you're like, there's a high chance I could have a C section too and not like being able to plan for both of those at the same time. I guess it's anyone but for you too, you know?

[Addy]

Yeah. I mean I'm very fortunate and I don't have like, I have flexible job hours is at my own hours. I can do my own thing. So it's not like I have to prepare like a, you know, take time off work and do all these things where it takes a little bit more proactive thinking. I feel like I can kind of just go in and be like, o, okay, what do I need in the moment? So I'm very fortunate in that way. And my mom's going to be here for seven weeks, which is awesome. So I'm like, it'll be great. She'll be here to help.

[Abby]

Help.

[Addy]

And yeah. So I don't know. Postpartum I don't have a good answer for, but I feel like now is when I've been really trying to prepare differently.

[Abby]

A lot of discussion in going for baby number three was a lot of discussion about postpartum because we were like, we can't do the same thing we did both times. We're like, okay, we don't want to repeat the same post because we kind of just went through the motions for the first two because they were so close together. So we had and so like I think that's the only reason why we've spent so much time because we're like, if this is something we're considering, we to need, need to like fully hash out everything. Where it wasn't like it was like a given that we were going to have more babies. Like it was like a, a full on discussion. It wasn't like, yeah, I think you were like, you're always going to have more. And so I think that's just where it was like, okay to proceed wisely. What are we going to do the same. What are we going to do different? And like obviously we might change our mind on some of those things, but it's like it feels like it's hashed out in our minds a lot more vividly than the first two pregnancies, which. Which is. Yeah. Interesting. What were you saying?

[Addy]

I feel like maybe that's my answer, is that my challenge. Postpartum felt physical, and that was a side effect of the C section. So in my mind, what I wanted differently is not have a C section and try.

[Abby]

That's the difference.

[Addy]

Yeah.

[Abby]

My challenge was mental.

[Addy]

Yes. And so I think that's. My answer is like, postpartum, Hopefully I'm not recovering from a surgery. That's. That's what I want to do differently.

[Abby]

Yeah. I want to be careful because I know that, like, some people have terrible time recovering, but I was walking, like, going on walks seven days post C section.

[Addy]

You were crushing it.

[Abby]

Well, it wasn't even, like, I was like. It was an eight. Anything I was doing, I just. I felt okay to do it. So that should be a positive voice for, like, people that were, like, have C sections. Like, obviously, the recovery can be. I think you can be tough either way. But I didn't feel, like, this dramatic, dramatic difference. But everyone's different. Everyone's bodies are different. Everyone's labor and delivery experience is different. I felt totally, like, literally seven days. I was like, will they let me.

[Addy]

Go to the gym?

[Abby]

Like, they would not.

[Coco]

I was so.

[Abby]

Because my mental health. Health was so bad that I was like, let me get some endorphins. So I was like, please.

[Addy]

I remember there was a video that you post online. You were skipping, and I was like, how the frick is she skipping? I don't remember, but I was even, like, 18 days before you postpartum, and you were skipping maybe, like, two or three weeks, fresh out of your C section. And I was like, I gotta get outside and try to freaking skip. Like, how is she doing that? I felt like I couldn't go on a walk for at least six weeks.

[Abby]

Really?

[Addy]

Took me six weeks to walk a mile.

[Abby]

YouTube videos and watching on a treadmill, trying to survive in my own brain.

[Coco]

Oh, my God.

[Abby]

See, I was really like, yeah. I was like, can I jog?

[Addy]

It's so crazy. Everyone's so different.

[Abby]

Yeah, I think. Yeah. The mental game for me, postpartum is like, that is the thing. And so that's why I felt like I could, because I'm like, pain. I'm like, I can just take the medication. I didn't take the medication last time, so I'm like, this time, I'm like, I'm gonna take the medication. Like, I mean, I. I took. I took Tylenol and stuff.

[Addy]

No, you got to get the oxy Yeah.

[Abby]

I was like, why did I take that? It was crazy.

[Coco]

Well, he. That's the thing, is, if Blake's anything like your dad, then I'm going to need you to come in and advocate.

[Abby]

My dad was the one who made the decision for me. Like, I was like, my dad's the same way. Your parents are the same way my dad. They have good reason. But I'm like, I'm sorry, but you are not a valid voice until you have delivered a baby via Slice Slice in your absolute abdomen. Because my dad was like, you don't want to take that, Abby. He's, like, leaning over my shoulder and in my head, my whole life just being like, painkillers are terrible. I understand there's a valid reason that that comes from. But I'm like, sometimes for two days, it's probably good. Two days. Like, let me get over that hump. Let me get through. Because I remember that feeling. This is something I'm not gonna do again. Because that panic was what led to literally the worst night of my life. Was like, I was in pain, and I. I was like, someone go pick. I threw in the towel. I was like, someone go pick it up. The pharmacy's closed for the night. And it was 4pm and I was like, okay, I have a night ahead of that. You already get the sundown scaries. I get the sundown scaries. Not everyone gets them where you're like, okay, it's like a. I have emotions tied with the sunset.

[Coco]

I got sundown scaries when I was pregnant, like, not too long ago, I couldn't sleep.

[Addy]

Is that weird?

[Abby]

I'm so glad you don't get it. It's so weird to explain, but it's like, as dinner time and sunset starts, like, it's just, like, a wave of, like, anxiety and sadness. And it's like, oh, gosh, like, about to be another night. Like, how am I gonna do. It's so weird. And I get it both times. And I'm so thankful that my mom was, like, next to me with Griffin. She's being like. Because I think she could feel it in me. Like, I would just get really emotional. Like, right at, like, 5:00pm, 5:30. Carry on. And it was, like, so weird because I was like, I feel fine during the day. Even in the middle of the night, I'm like, even. It's tough. I'm not feeling this way. It just felt like a dark cloud is the only way I know how to explain it. And it wasn't, like, permanent. Like, I didn't feel like this. The whole day was just literally at sundown. And so I remember we went with my grandparents. We went and watched the sunset. And literally at that point, I was like, I don't know if I can literally do this. Like, it felt like. It felt like the craziest hurdle to get in my car to watch the sunset. I was like, something's up. And my mom was like, you know, like, I felt this. And she was, like, trying to talk to me. I was like, okay, good. Because I feel like, this is so weird. Like, why is it this thing? And so I'm so glad I had her to, like, kind of, like, walk me through that. So then I didn't feel the same, like, panic with Augie, because I was like, okay, it's gonna go away. It's only for a period. Like, I can just do something. That's why I was like, I didn't want to be alone when that happened. So I remember, like, our whole family was literally. And I'm talking about, like, Matt's parents, my parents. Like, everyone. Everybody was in our bedroom. Our bedroom, watching Shark tank at, like, 4:30. I was like, I just wanted everyone there because I was like. It felt like, less scary when everyone was around me. But I know some people are different, like, with how they want to deal with their feelings. But I was like, I just want everyone to be around me because I feel, like, social. I don't know. It just helps me get me through it. Anyway, what was I saying?

[Addy]

Well, what you want to do differently, postpartum?

[Abby]

Oh, what I want to do differently? Oh, a lot of things. But I think I'm probably not going to say it on the podcast.

[Addy]

So you're going to take the medicine and not the medicine?

[Abby]

Oh, I'm going to take the oxy. That's going to be the one that I'm going to put out there. Because I literally remember that feeling when I was having the sundown scaries of also being like, okay, this element of pain is on top of it, and there's no relief from it. And so then once I got through that first night, I was like, okay, I'm gonna go pick it up tomorrow. Like, that makes no sense in my brain. So then I just didn't. But I'm gonna do it this time.

[Coco]

I'm super curious if that's something that I'll experience for, like, the sundown scaries, because I had it for, like, a couple days whenever, like, Brielle is awake in my belly from 9 to midnight, and I go to bed at 9pm and so I can't fall asleep because she's just moving. And so, like, thinking about having to go to bed made me anxious because I was like, I'm not gonna go to sleep. And so knowing that. That part of me. And so I think that's. I think it might be something that I might experience because I was even just experiencing it during pregnancy. So I'm curious to see how that.

[Abby]

I think it helps to get out of the house, because sometimes your house can. Well, everyone's different, right? For me, like, postpartum, my house can feel like a prison. So when people were, like, judging me, like, you need to just stay home for 10 days. You need to go. I'm like, my mental health method or.

[Coco]

Whatever, like, five days in bed, five days around bed, five days in the house. Sounds terrible.

[Abby]

Some people love that. And that's great. It's like, recovery can look different for everybody because, like, if you're recovering physically, if that's your main challenge, that makes a lot of sense. But if your main challenge is mental, oh, my gosh. Like, I was like, please get me.

[Coco]

Out of this house.

[Abby]

That's why I literally walked in on a treadmill and watched YouTube videos, because I was like, please help my brain right now, because then now I feel. Do feel more confident going into it, knowing, like, okay, this is probably going to be my main thing that I need to struggle with. And I also know what I can get me out of it, which is It's. I hate this because I feel like mental health. Obviously, we talk about it so much now, and it's become. Wait, I think we've lost, like, a lot of the stigma around it. But for me, still, I. I still feel, like, so dumb having to be like, this is my main challenge is my brain afterwards, like, my own. I can't even, like, convince myself that everything's fine when I know that it is. It's just, like, so weird. And I've never even been diagnosed with anything. I've been totally honest on every single. They do a lot of postpartum checkups on your mental health, and I've never once, like, even raised alarm bells for anything. I think everything I've had has been, like, within, like, a normal, acceptable range, but it still feels, like, so, like, oh, gosh, I don't know about that, but it's such a beautiful time, too. It's funny that it's like, in the moment, I'm like, this is great. And then on the other side, I'm like, okay, that was so special and awesome and cool, but it's like, I almost needed hindsight to see that perspective on it, like, because it is such a fog. It is weird. It's so weird. It's crazy.

[Coco]

I'm so curious. I'm so interested to see how it's.

[Abby]

Gonna be so seamless. I feel like it's gonna be so seamless, and if it's not, it's all also totally normal.

[Coco]

I feel like I have a good community of people here that I'm like, if I'm struggling with anything, I feel like I could be honest about it, and I can talk to people about it and talk to people who have been through the experience or not even have been through the experience but will still support me. So I'm like, even if you have a good, that doesn't mean it's gonna make it better, but at least you have people to talk to, you know?

[Abby]

Oh, it makes it a million times better even having my mom like you just. Because then you start to feel, like, loneliness, and any problem is just a red recipe for disaster, and any conflict is just. It takes community. It takes, like, getting it out for it to become. Any kind of healing can start.

[Coco]

I'm curious how that, like, is gonna work with, like, Blake, too, because there's certain things that he just can't process the same way that I do about certain things. Like, even the other night, I got so upset, and I started crying. We got the bassinet out because we were trying to rearrange our room to have desks in it because he needed a desk to work from home, so we had to take both our nightstands out, but that means I have no nightstand. But her bassinet's there, but I have nowhere to put a lamp if I need a lamp next to me, and I need stuff next to me, and I can't. And I was freaking out, and I just started sobbing, like. And I had not sobbed like that. He's like, why are you. What? Stop. I'm like, I physically cannot stop sobbing right now. He's like, I don't know what to do. I'm like, I don't know what to do either, you know? And I'm like, I can't stop.

[Abby]

I needed my mom, you know? I needed my mom. I needed my mom. My. I needed women.

[Addy]

I needed my mom, too.

[Abby]

I needed my mom. Like, it's so crazy how, like, I had. I rely on Matt for literally 99.9% of everything. That 0.1%. It's not that he. It was an expectation that I couldn't place on him. I'm like, you don't know. And it's as much as he wants to try and is trying to try to meet my needs, it's like, I needed my mom, and I'm so grateful that my mom was present and was, like, so there. Both times. I needed my mom.

[Coco]

Yeah.

[Abby]

It was even during labor, when I saw my mom, I was like, oh, mom. Like, no. You know, and it's just like, that just made me cry, too. Like, that time, like, I really needed my mom.

[Addy]

People like to dog on their husbands, but it's like. Yeah, they just. It's not even that they aren't trying. It's like they just.

[Abby]

I was feeling anger towards him because he doesn't know, and I'm like, what do I expect him to do? Give birth?

[Coco]

Yeah. Right.

[Addy]

Like, me, they'll never be able to know. Yeah. And it's not to their detriment. It's just, like, it is what it is.

[Abby]

Or, like, nursing. I was like, you want to do this right now? For a second here? Like, I was like, you can't. You literally can't. There was no winning in that situation. Have you noticed a change in Caleb, I'm curious, from this pregnancy to the last pregnancy.

[Addy]

Yeah. He's more at peace.

[Abby]

Matt is, too, like, so much more. And, like, any little change, he's, like, excited about, and he, like, notices more. Whereas before, I kind of felt like I was, like, trying to tell him, like, oh, this is happening, or, like, this is, like, different, like. And I feel like now he's like, I noticed a little bump. It's so cute. Or like, things like that where I'm like. I felt like I was like, do I have, like. I was, like, trying to draw his attention. Things. He's way more attuned this time.

[Addy]

Yes.

[Abby]

Than ever before.

[Addy]

Yeah. I would agree.

[Abby]

Yeah.

[Addy]

Yeah. It's fun to see that.

[Abby]

It's sweet.

[Addy]

Yeah.

[Coco]

I'm sure Blake will be that way. Blake's already, like, during this pregnancy, and so I feel like once he sees that things can go fine, like, he'll be definitely be like that.

[Addy]

And there's just such a fear. I feel like. Like, we have these nine months, our bodies building, these babies. You know, we're. I'm watching all this stuff online. Like, why would Caleb be watching? You know, he's just not. He's not doing the same type of research I'm doing about things. And so there's this, like, a greater level probably of the unknown for a guy. And then when they meet the baby, it's like, you know, everything changes and. But yeah, the second time around, he's like, oh, know what to expect. It's great.

[Abby]

And Matt was so confident with a baby. When we had Augie, the cat was like, he just, like, knew how to do his dj, too.

[Addy]

He put him in the football hole.

[Abby]

So I'm like, I feel like this third time he's going to be. Except there is more of a gap this time. So I'm like, is he going to pressure? Am I personally going to forget I held a tiny baby the other day? I was like, oh, I forgot. I forgot.

[Addy]

I know.

[Coco]

I forgot that I'll give you six months to prepare.

[Abby]

Little bit. But it is fun seeing them, like, assume that role again. It's really special to see it a second or even like a third time. It's really special.

[Coco]

I'm like, I'm proud of him. It'll be cool to see, like, you seeing your brother in that.

[Abby]

I cried today thinking about that.

[Addy]

So you have been crying more?

[Abby]

No, I cry like this all the time. I literally just pictured the scene I was, like, driving and Blake handing me Brielle, and then I started crying because.

[Coco]

I was like, me cry, my little brother.

[Addy]

Oh, that would be really. You have to get videos of all that because those are just memories of.

[Abby]

This on the regular. This is my normal emotions. You don't believe me? Do you think I'm more emotional?

[Addy]

I feel like in these moments. Yeah, a little bit more.

[Abby]

Okay.

[Addy]

I feel like this is a little bit your second time.

[Abby]

Sorry. I mean, it's my brother. No, it's beautiful.

[Addy]

It's beautiful. I love it. But you're just trying. You're saying it not because of being pregnant.

[Abby]

I feel this, like, I do feel like this feels normal. Maybe I'm just out of touch. I do cry a lot.

[Addy]

I'm not saying crying is bad.

[Abby]

I cry because of sad things. I cry mostly because of feeling touched like that just instantly bring a tear to me. Like, not really like, sad things. Like, people can talk. I can talk about sad things, and I'm like, kind of fine. It's like the touching things that really bring out the waterworks.

[Addy]

No, I love crying.

[Abby]

It's not bad thing because I just know Blake. Blake is also secretly sensitive. Addie doesn't think he's, you know, I.

[Coco]

Know they're serious, and so I know.

[Abby]

That this is going to bring out the. Him having a baby girl is going to bring out the Most sensitive version of him, and it's gonna be really sweet. I just pictured him handing me her, and then I was like, oh, my gosh.

[Coco]

Like, I can't even imagine. Like, obviously a baby boy would still be so. Like, you still have to be so gentle and precious with it. Like a baby girl.

[Abby]

It mentally feels different.

[Coco]

His baby girl. Like, are you kidding me?

[Addy]

He's gonna be such a good dad.

[Abby]

I knew like, a girl dad the minute I met him.

[Addy]

Yeah.

[Coco]

Oh, my God.

[Abby]

The minute you guys were like, we're gonna. We're pregnant, I was like, it's gotta be a girl. But then my mom convinced me as a freaking boy, and now. Oh.

[Coco]

When your mom was telling me she knew it was a boy, I was.

[Abby]

Like, that's the reason I think this baby could be a girl. Because she's saying it's a boy.

[Addy]

Oh, it's probably a girl. That's what I'm saying.

[Abby]

Like, Lori's dead wrong, so she's like, you need to find out. She's like, you're gonna have another boy.

[Addy]

What did she say our baby is?

[Abby]

I don't know.

[Addy]

Okay, we have to ask her because.

[Abby]

Let's ask her.

[Addy]

That'll be my science.

[Abby]

Yeah, honestly, it's good science. I mean, it's 100% accurate at this point.

[Addy]

Yes. He's 100% wrong every time.

[Abby]

Very pronounced. She's 100% wrong.

[Addy]

100% of the time.

[Abby]

Confidently wrong, mind you. Thanks so much for being on this podcast. I cannot wait to be an auntie two more times. So thank you for doing that, giving me that gift, and thank you for.

[Addy]

Giving us another baby.

[Abby]

Yes, thank you for giving us another.

[Coco]

Baby too, Making us so excited again.

[Abby]

Okay, well, everyone go follow us. By the time this is out, the baby will be for sure.

[Coco]

For sure.

[Abby]

Baby will be here.

[Coco]

Definitely.

[Abby]

So many exciting things happening and sending the best baby dust. Labor delivery dust, both of you. Newborn experience. I feel great about both of you guys. It's gonna be an awesome, awesome season for us. I feel so blessed. And Doug Limu and I always tell you to customize your car insurance and.

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