Sarah (2:01)

I was fangirling. I was like, oh my God. And I got a photo. He's so tall.

Mary (2:06)

Can I share my hot take that I've been trying to formulate in my head over the week or two of Summer House. I don't think my opinion of Wes has changed given this new information. Of him with Amanda. And I say that because I've always seen him as a hot person, but I've always seen him as a person that could do this. So like, while everybody's like, I hate Wes, I hate Wes. I'm surprised by Wes. The whole time I've been like, is that not the west we've always known? Yeah, like, so I my opinion, I don't see him as higher, I don't see him as lower. I just see him as literally the same west that we've always seen on tv.

Nick (2:37)

I see what you're saying. I'm not shocked. I think it's just more. I'm sure if you listen to this show, you've been a die hard, you know that like when the first drama, the first reunion with west and Cyr, I was definitely like more Team West. That was based off the information that how I was receiving it, which was they were in the situationship and west at some point pretty quickly was like, yo. I'm like, I just, I don't think I'm ready for a relationship. I don't know if I want a relationship. And I took that as him setting up front expectations and then there was a whole wedding stuff and that was just more like, you know, not that I didn't have empathy for Sierra, but it was just more like, I just don't know if this guy did something all that bad because he was upfront and honest which like, again, like, you're allowed to be confused, you're allowed to be messy in relationships. But now that I'm, I, I'm, you know, I'm probably projecting because it's just like now I almost kind of regret that stance. But I think it has more to do with like, again, now there's a pattern here. Now there's like this has been going on for two and a half years. Like west had one shot to be like, yo. I think maybe I didn't realize just how invested she was and I maybe took that for granted and it certainly wasn't intentional but clearly I hurt her feelings and I feel really bad about that. So I'm going to move differently. The fuck he did. You know what I'm saying? Like, he just like, you know, took

Mary (3:47)

it and doubled it for the next double fucking dip.

Nick (3:49)

He quadrupled it. He was just like, this is this last scene where it's just like. Or this last episode and Sierra is just like, because, because you're stupid and they're hugging and it's just like, this is. You guys aren't Sierra is not talking about being just friends.

Sarah (4:02)

No.

Nick (4:02)

It is so fucking obvious, you know? And then their entire friend group is like, are they going to get married? Are they going to fall in love? There's a double date. And you can almost tell, like, he's so obsessed with, like, everyone liking them that he can. You know, that's like, that he just. He just won't give a fuck. And so I think, while I agree with you, I'm not surprised that he did this. I'm definitely far more critical because it was like, yo, like, I had your back, and I wanted to give you the benefit of the doubt that you were just, like, people are allowed to be confused. People are allowed to change their mind. They're allowed to stop liking people. But, like, you get one chance at, like, doing that without it being really inconsiderate, not giving a. About their feelings.

Sarah (4:46)

What about him telling Ben and whoever else that he has a crush?

Nick (4:49)

That's crazy.

Sarah (4:51)

Like, that's what I'm saying. And then it's like, you know, that that shit's gonna get. Get her out is how quickly A gets around this.

Mary (4:56)

He's the master breadcrumber orbiter. Like, he keeps his orbit.

Sarah (5:00)

He does. He's. He's. He's the little fires everywhere, but hands off. Like, literally, like, he's the one that, like, he's, like, with Lindsay Ser.

Leia (5:08)

Arsonist West Wilson.

Sarah (5:10)

Yeah. He's like, I don't want to. I'm not going to block my friend. And I don't want to make Jesse feel like I care if he hooks up with Sierra. So I'm going to get Lindsay to do it.

Leia (5:19)

Nick, I'm honestly really curious because I truly cannot comprehend doing that to somebody the way west is doing. And maybe it's just because I'm not a man. So I'm just like, how, like. Like, it doesn't compute in my brain to, like.

Nick (5:38)

I mean, like, I literally could never and would never. And I've just, literally, I've never been that guy. I mean, even in high school, way back in the day, I was always like, I'm. You know, you guys, I'm. I'm direct. I was like, I remember. I remember being smart enough in high school when girls would be like, so what is this going to be? And we were, like, literally making out. We were, like, going to second base. And I was like, yo, I don't want anything. I just want to make out with you. And I always remember, like, the girls being in high school being like, oh, okay. Thanks for being honest, you know, but I, you know, it was just like I, I've always had that personality. I. And it always has blown my mind. That's why I always like, you know, when it used to be players, not fuckboys, like that was like, you know, we would call like, you know, and so I, to me that word still has meaning. And to me I always saw players as men who will like leverage their feelings to get what they want when it comes to like physical intimacy where like a fuck boy is just like, yo, I just want to fuck. And I'm going to be upbringing honest with me like I don't want a girlfriend. I'm going to keep it real. And if you like if feelings for me, I need to shut this down because there's other people I can, who don't have feelings for me but like I don't want to with your feelings. Where players would be like, I'll buy you the gifts, I'll take you to weddings, I'll make you feel like we have a thing going on and I will lie to you and be deceitful and yada, yada, yada. And like that's, that's wet. Like that's what west is, you know,

Leia (6:57)

he can't, that's what west is doing. And I think I'm just like at

Nick (7:00)

the risk of someone being frustrated and disappointed with them and, and again and also to remove access. He, he wants to keep access to Sierra. He wants to be able to do this at his convenience. And so he like again soothes her, he makes her feel better, you know. And like at some point as a 30 year old man, it's, it's not oops, it's, it's a choice. You're like you, you're, you know, 30 year old.

Mary (7:25)

Oops.

Sarah (7:26)

He's intentional.

Leia (7:27)

It's, it's like, but how do you do that to so many people so many different times? And not like it doesn't.

Mary (7:33)

I feel like the boy part of west with like Sierra is very common and like in my opinion everybody's been a boy at least once in their life. Girls, guys and everybody else.

Nick (7:42)

Yeah.

Mary (7:42)

But it's the part where his operation with Sierra, the second round with Amanda in it is the part where I'm like, people don't just do that. No, that's, that's like just someone who doesn't care about the collateral damage.

Leia (7:55)

Yeah.

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