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E1020 – Going Deeper with Brooke Schofield
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Welcome back to The Viall Files: Going Deeper edition. Cancelled was just Cancelled… and we know you all have questions. Luckily, we have the one and only Brooke Schofield to share her side of the story. Who really is Brooke Schofield? What is...
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Justin
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Justin
You ready to rock and roll?
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Brooke Schofield
Yeah.
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Justin
You Nervous?
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Brooke Schofield
Yeah.
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Justin
Why?
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Brooke Schofield
I'm always nervous to go on other people's podcasts in general, but then also, like, now that we don't have canceled, and I'm like. My whole purpose of that was, like, I just don't want to be received or, like, perceived. And then here I am, like, you're crazy.
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Justin
Well, welcome to the show.
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Natalie
Well, thank you.
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Justin
We're very excited to have you. You're a different type of guest than we often have, and I'm really, honestly just kind of curious to see where this conversation goes.
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Brooke Schofield
I'm excited.
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Justin
So, yeah, welcome. We're. We're excited to have you.
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Brooke Schofield
Thank you.
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Justin
Because, like, I know mostly about you through my wife Natalie, you know, who's a fan. I'm certainly, like, aware of the canceled podcast, um, and aware of you, but, like, I. I'm not. I haven't been, like, a normal consumer, but obviously, like, I've heard your name pop up often. Your former co host, Hannah. Like, obviously.
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Brooke Schofield
Yeah, I know you guys had some.
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Justin
Do we, though? I don't.
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Brooke Schofield
I don't. She doesn't know either, but I know she.
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Natalie
I feel like Justin.
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Justin
Justin was prepping for this interview. He listened to your final episode, and he was like, your name got brought up.
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Brooke Schofield
Yeah, she always talks about it. Cause she's like, we. You know when you, like, have something with somebody and then you. It go, like, enough time passes.
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Justin
I've never met her.
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Brooke Schofield
I know, but remember, it was. Yes, we had. We struggled to remember, too. But then once we did, I was like, yeah, you were kind of rude about them.
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Justin
Well, you know, JoJo's my girl, and I'm just defensive of my friends.
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Brooke Schofield
I was. I said, they're my friends. Well, I said, nanny's my friend.
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Natalie
Thank you.
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Justin
I would just thought maybe I just have a face that's punchable.
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Brooke Schofield
No, you're polarizing.
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Natalie
But, yeah, it was. She was like. It's like, Nick Vowell. I don't know why I hate Nick Val, but I hate Nick Vow. It's like, okay, okay, cool.
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Justin
At least my name's in her mouth.
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Natalie
No, we did. We met her at.
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Justin
I've never met her.
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Natalie
No, we have. We met her at Seth MacFarlane's party. We met her there. We were in line to get drinks, and we were behind her, and I was like, we should say hi. Because this, like, drama with Jojo had, like, happened a couple months prior. And I was like, we should say hi. And we said hi. We met her. She probably doesn't remember that either.
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Brooke Schofield
Well, I'm Sure. She, she meant well.
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Natalie
Yeah, sure.
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Justin
Well, I mean, I don't know, I don't know where you want to start this interview. I had been interested in getting both you and Tana on individually. I actually, I think randomly, I was like, you know what, it, I'm just gonna like DM Tana and asked her to come on the podcast. And like three weeks later she's like, oh, this is interesting. Maybe let me, let me do research. And then I haven't heard from her yet.
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Brooke Schofield
I, she, I talked to her about it last night because I told her I was coming on and she was like, I'm back and forth about it. I don't know why she would be. She really does.
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Justin
I think people have a lot of different opinions about the show or me or, or you know, I've heard I'm scary or something.
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Brooke Schofield
No, we were jealous of you guys because we couldn't get we' allowed to have any Love island people on. Probably for good reason, but like, like there's somebody overhead that says absolutely no canceled podcast.
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Natalie
Interesting.
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Brooke Schofield
And so we were jealous of you.
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Natalie
Well, that was a crazy fan base. So maybe you shouldn't be jealous because you're scared. Yeah, honestly, we're always like, I don't think we'll cover next season. It's just too much.
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Justin
It is a lot. But I mean, you know, you are coming off like two or two or three weeks ago, you guys, you and Tana did your last episode of Canceled, which was watched by many. I think a lot of people were left with some might say more questions than answers. You were very emotional in that Tana seemed less so emotional. I know you spent four hours talking about it, but it also felt like it's it. I think a lot of people were thinking like you didn't really want it to end.
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Brooke Schofield
Yeah.
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Justin
And, and, and that it was more like one sided. But maybe you guys just handle emotions differently. But I guess like, you know, why did it end and just how are you feeling about it two weeks or two, a few weeks after the interview about it ending and is it really over because you guys have ended it in the past and come back?
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Brooke Schofield
Yeah, well, the first time we ended it, it was an accident. We didn't mean to end it. But yeah, I think you're right. Tana and I both have completely different reasons for wanting to end the podcast. I think I can't speak for her, but if it were up to me and me alone, it wouldn't have ended. I probably would have just stuck it out just because I mean, it's so important to my life, especially, like, financially. Like, I needed it there. Like, for her, it ended because she was, you know, in my opinion, like, being dragged into a lot of controversy because of me, obviously. And I was just, like, not doing well mentally. I was really, really struggling. And I felt like every single week I was putting myself in a position to be perceived at, like, a ver. Like, as a version of myself that I was not proud of and not excited about. I was, like, trying to heal with from, like, things that I was really going through emotionally. But, like, I had, like, a ball and chain on my, you know, foot, because it's like I have this thing that I have to sit down and do every single week. And I can anticipate weeks and weeks after that, thousands of hate comments and backlash for things that I said. And it was just like, it was too heavy for me to handle, like, in the mental state that I was in. So.
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Justin
So from your standpoint, it was more like you would have preferred a. Like a. Not to use Bravo term, a put on pause, if you will.
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Brooke Schofield
Yes, absolutely.
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Justin
Maybe just like a timeout. But as that stands today, Tana was more or less like, maybe maybe we should just end it type of thing.
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Brooke Schofield
Yeah, I would have loved to take a second, especially, like, when things were really happening for me online, like, you know, with everything that went on, especially last year, I would have loved to take, like, you know, a few months off and, like, take a beat and have time to, like, process that. But we didn't have the option because we had, like, you know, this really, like, set in stone contract. So I think that that just, you know, snowballed into something horrible because I was, like, now doing this thing that I should not have been doing in a state of mind that I should not have been in. And it just finally had to.
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Justin
Had to end from an outsider's point of view, like, not knowing a ton about you prior to this interview or even Tana, but, like, you know, just like me. It's just like you. You know, you can be aware of me but not know a lot about me. And just like, you know, you two. You guys are so prevalent on the Internet and have huge fan bases that it's very easy when you're. You're that much in the public eye for people to have different perceptions of you. But, you know, you obviously just referenced being caught up in controversy in the past. Tana has been caught up in controversy and things like that, and she's also considered a polarizing character. I'm just curious, like, how did you guys come up with the name Cancelled? Because it seems, like, really ironic, the history and the lifespan of your show being called cancelled and having to pause and end it based off of controversy. Is that a coincidence or how did that all come to be?
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Brooke Schofield
I think it's a little bit of both. Tana, at the time that she started canceled. It was only her show. It was meant to be just canceled with Tana Mongeau. And that, I think, was. What you're saying is she kind of thought it was funny because she'd been canceled so many times. It was just, like, ironic. And also, like, she wanted to be able. Like, if somebody were to Google Tana Mongeau canceled, the podcast would come up and not, like, all her cancellations.
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Natalie
She was smart.
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Brooke Schofield
She was smart businesswoman, really brilliant. But then I think it ended up just accidentally manifesting some other serious, major cancellations, which I would have loved to do without.
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Justin
But when you make a mistake, you need to hold yourself accountable and learn from past mistakes. And I'm sure you've thought a lot about wanting to do things differently, but do you feel like how your show, whether it's the title or just the content you talked about, do you feel like almost it manifested how things played out in reality?
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Brooke Schofield
100%? I think we were. Especially at the time that everything happened with me, I was doing this whole whack a mole, like, takedown situation. I was. I was personally contributing to so many other people's, like, downfalls. I was talking about drama and things that other people had done. And I was being like, accountability police, like, expecting that all these people, like, do better and whatever. And then, of course, it's like, I feel like people felt more inclined to, you know, hold me to the same standard that I was holding everybody else to, which is totally understandable.
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Natalie
I definitely think, like, we were, I don't know, like, scared. But, like, it's always like, oh, well, we don't want to be a topic uncanceled. You know, it's like, because it felt kind of like we have this rule at the Vowel Files that, like, we don't platform rumors. Like, if there's something that some blog account or some tick tocker is talking about from Reddit or something, like, we're. It's not a topic that we're going to talk about because it's like, we're not giving oxygen to just somebody who, like, decided to make up something and it went viral.
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Justin
Like, if JoJo comes on the show and Says, you know, I have this thing with Tana, or if you, like, come on the show and bring something up, we'll talk about it. Or if you go on your social and talk about it, or if we watch it on a TV show that we're discussing, it's fair game for us. But if it was like, a blogger said this or someone on Reddit saying that, like, and we've made mistakes in the past. The show's like, six years old. We've done over a thousand episodes. It was something that, like, because of that, we were just like, it's.
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Brooke Schofield
It's.
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Justin
Yeah. And what sucks is because there are so many times where, like, oh, you hear that rumor, and even if you think it's true and you want. Because it's like, oh, well, that would be fun to just debate and discuss and question where there is. But, yeah, we've. Over. Over the years, we've, you know, there. There's no, like, rules in the podcast space. We try to set our own standards because, yeah, it's just like, there's that thought of, like, you know, we're having fun. And maybe it's what I've learned on reality tv, because it's like, you know, when you're on reality tv, you're the topic of conversation, and then you become sensitive and you have more empathy for people just, like, talking about you. I'm grateful that I had. I learned that way rather than.
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Brooke Schofield
Yeah, I think it's really respectable that you guys do that. Because, I mean, like, you're saying we definitely did not always, you know, practice that I feel like it took for me. And I. I hate to admit it, but sometimes, like, I have to experience something firsthand before I can empathize with somebody else.
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Natalie
I think that's normal.
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Brooke Schofield
Yeah. So. So it wasn't until, like, that started really happening to me where people, like, I open up my YouTube and I see my face in every thumb and, like, it's about something completely untrue and I have no control over it. And I'm like, I have been doing that to people, and we have made this whole huge show based on that alone.
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Natalie
Yeah.
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Brooke Schofield
And so I think that had a lot to do with why we wanted to end it, too. Cause we, you know, everyone was a fan of the show for that reason. And when we couldn't or didn't want to do that anymore, it's either too boring or they changed or going.
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Natalie
I mean, you were saying it's kind of like whack a mole. Is there anyone that comes to mind that you would want to like apologize to or say sorry for bringing their stuff to your platform.
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Brooke Schofield
Yeah, I think I kind of did it in our last episode also. But there's some people I think I just. Not necessarily, like, I regret completely bringing it up, but like, I think I drove some like, major hate campaigns towards certain people that like, didn't necessarily deserve it. Matt Rife comes to mind. Zach sang like there were people who really didn't do that wrong by me, but I was so hurt in the moment that I was like, let me tell millions of people. And it was just not. I would never do it again.
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Justin
Matt Rife. I do vaguely remember it being big news.
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Brooke Schofield
Oh, sorry. It was a really dramatic reaction to something that wasn't that dramatic. And that is a common theme in my life.
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Justin
You know, life is all about perspective and how you view things. And obviously you've been through some traumas lately, some of which you've acknowledged are self induced, you know, your fault. But like, there's always an opportunity to learn and move forward and hopefully like, there's an opportunity to learn from you. Do you feel like your audience members, because a lot of them, I think are young and look up to you and Tana, do you feel like people have learned from your and Tana's mistakes? You know, is there a way to entertain but also at the same time recognize that, like, yeah, it's tough because like you said, like, there's. Oh, you know, a lot of times when we kind of invoke our rule, it's like, but that, that would, that would perform, you know, that would like, you know, it's like, that's the, that's the juicy stuff that like, sometimes it's, it's hard to please and it always runs the risk of people getting hurt, so to speak. And do you feel like people or your audience have not only looked at you guys and like, oh, we need to hold you two accountable, but like maybe learn themselves about like, what to do and not to do when it comes to who they're talking about online.
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Brooke Schofield
Yeah, I hope so. I hope at the very least, like, people have noticed like the weight of your words. Like, specifically, even things I've said, you know, so many years ago can have so much impact. Like, you know, 10, 15 years later. And there's so much of that happening right now. People who are doing it right this second who don't understand like, or know that, you know, maybe down the line they won't mean that anymore or like, or they're gonna Regret it, and it could really hurt somebody. So I hope that people just, you know, have more of a filtration process than at least I did. I mean, I would like for people to see that you can grow. And, like, maybe if you were once somebody who wanted to bully or make other people feel bad or whatever it is, like, you can decide one day you don't want to anymore, and that's fine. You can always change.
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Justin
You always. Not always, but, like, was being a public figure a goal of yours, or did it organically happen?
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Brooke Schofield
Of course, when you're younger, like, being famous is, like, the most exciting thing in the world. Especially me. I, like, I'm not ashamed to admit, like, validation to me was, like, currency. I wanted attention so bad always growing up that I feel like that felt like the peak of it, like, to be known and loved by, like, you know, the masses. That felt like it would be the coolest thing in the world, like. Yeah, so I think. Yeah, I think so. I didn't necessarily, like, want to just be famous, but I wanted to be known for whatever it was I was going to do, and I didn't know what that was going to be.
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Natalie
And speaking of you growing up, like, you've openly talked about your mom was a drug addict, you were a doctor adopted by your grandparents. What was your childhood like?
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Brooke Schofield
Yeah, so my. My mom struggle or has struggled and still does struggle with addiction. I lived with just her until I was, like, around 9 or 10 years old. And then I think she either. She either went to rehab or jail or something where I felt like I was gonna go with my grandparents for, like, the weekend, and I just never got picked up. And my time with my grandparents was. I mean, it was like, night and day. Like, I. I went from being, like, dirt road meth house to, like, this suburban, sweet, amazing family. So it was really special. But then, you know, that comes with its own problems. My grandma immediately just got, like, really sick, and then it was a whole different struggle over there. But I don't know, I was really, really grateful for them. I felt, like, rescued.
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Natalie
Like, dirt road meth house. Like, legit dirt road meth house.
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Brooke Schofield
Yeah. It's only honestly, kind of recently that I've started, like, unpacking it a little bit. I feel like I had this tendency to, like, joke about it. If you ever hear me talk about it on Canceled, I'm, like, very, like, yeah, my mom's a crackhead. Like, yeah, I was joking about it for so long, I think, because, like, I. I hated the feeling of like, people pitying me or, like, say, you know when you say something that happened to you, and instead of people laughing, they're like, yeah, yeah.
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Natalie
Oh, God, I'm so sorry. And then you have to be like.
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Brooke Schofield
Yeah, I. I really didn't like that. So I always felt like I was kind of, like, dismissive, and I wanted to just feel like it didn't bother me. And I feel like you think when you grow up, it's going to get, like, easier. And I feel like my experience has been, like, the more I've grown up, the more it's, like, hurt me and upset me.
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Natalie
Was it your grandparents or was it your mom who explained kind of, like your mom's disease?
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Brooke Schofield
I don't think it was ever really, like, explained to me. I just.
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Natalie
We.
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Brooke Schofield
I just had an understanding of it, you know, like, she was doing meth in the house. Like, I never had. You just talked that she was a drug addict. I definitely. I knew it wasn't normal. Like, we knew it wasn't normal. We were upset by it and stuff. And like, that specifically, that really wasn't the problem. It was, you know, what comes with being a meth addict. Like, the violence and, like, the fighting and the people in and out. Like, it was just like, that was more traumatic to me. But it wasn't until I was, like, a little bit older, probably, like, more recently, like, the last five years, where I really was like, this is a disease. It's not a choice. It's not like her having abandoned me. It's like, something that she struggles with so bad. And that was helpful to not resent her so much.
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Natalie
What is your relationship like with your mom today?
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Brooke Schofield
That's. I literally. I just recently, like, a few weeks ago, we went completely no contact, really. Like, I had to fully block her, which was horrible.
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Natalie
If you don't mind me asking, like, what sparked that response?
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Brooke Schofield
Um, I. I've done it a few times. I've, like, I've wrestled with it a lot because, like, similar to canceled, I feel like it was. I was trying to heal from something, like a relationship that I was still in. Like, I really wanted to work through some of that, except I was still suffering, like, at the hands of her. It felt like, especially, like, having become more successful, it became, like, a very, like, emotionally abusive relationship where it was like, I need money or this. And, like, it was just really constant, like, taking from me and with nothing in return. And I just felt really taken advantage of. And I just finally had to be like, can't do it. I bought a house. So I'm like, I can't financially support everybody anymore. I can't.
- [19:14]
Justin
I imagine that your success in the public eye affected your relationship with your mom or changed how she acted around you at times. How people, like, handle like family can get weird when you get famous.
- [19:30]
Brooke Schofield
You think it only happens in movies. It was like, it was the strangest thing. Like, you know, you get money and like, it's why people tell you if you win the lottery. Like, you shouldn't tell anybody. You never expect it's going to happen to you. But, you know, I did.
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Natalie
People come out of the woodworks for sure.
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Brooke Schofield
Yeah.
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Natalie
What is your relationship like with your father?
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Brooke Schofield
I have a much better relationship with him. I mean, we had. Have had our own issues, but he wasn't nearly as involved in my life as my mom was. So I feel less hurt by him.
- [19:58]
Natalie
Yeah.
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Brooke Schofield
And he also, like, it wasn't until I was like an adult. I have more of like a friendship with my dad than I do like a daughter. Son. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Or daughter, father. Father relationship.
- [20:09]
Natalie
Yeah.
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Brooke Schofield
But it's healthier.
- [20:11]
Natalie
Yeah. Once I think you can like, accept your parent for like, the best that they can do. Like, my dad doesn't have a dad bone in his body. Like, he's a great friend and he's a great person to like, hang out with, but he's not. Like, he doesn't have the like, father in him. And so I've had to just like, accept that and stop expecting him to like, be a dad. And our relationship has gotten so much better since then.
- [20:35]
Brooke Schofield
Yeah. You just. I need to not hold him to such a high standard. I felt that way with my, my mom. I. My mom. Her mom was horribly neglectful. She ended up going on to kill herself. So she, like. My mom didn't have a. A good example. She doesn't.
- [20:49]
Natalie
Yeah.
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Brooke Schofield
I don't know if she ever knew how to be a mom. She had three daughters and all of us ended up different places. So, like, I have to, you know, be fair to her and like, understand that she is like, you know, they say it's your parents first time living too, but at the same time, selfishly, I have to like, understand that that comes at a major cost to me. And for me to like, if I want to start a family and I want to go on to do all these things, I need to like, I need to cut that tie because that's how you carry it on.
- [21:16]
Justin
I know people like to say things like no regrets, but I honestly think regret's a real thing. And I think that's okay to say. I think sometimes people like to say everything happens for a reason, to, like, explain away the shitty times and obviously with what things have gone on in your life and things we just talked about, like, specifically with the canceled or just, like, previous things that, you know, you have done and had to apologize for. When you think of regret, or more importantly, when you think about just, like, moving forward, you know, you're still sitting here today, and from what I could tell, you still have a lot of great things in your life, right? And you have a lot of, like, privileges and blessings that, like, a lot of people don't have. But at the same time, you've dealt with some, like, really difficult things that have really, like, hurt your mental health. I'm sure at times when you're feeling the weight of the Internet coming from you, it's been incredibly scary. And I'm sure you've had regrets or, you know, wondering or maybe there's been a thought, like, why did I even start this podcast? You know, was it worth it? You know? But now that, you know, some of the dust has settled a little bit, you've moved on from canceled. How do you balance regret versus still being grateful for what you have and then just focusing on learning from mistakes?
- [22:31]
Brooke Schofield
For a long time, I really struggled with gratitude and feeling grateful for, like, what I did do, have, because I. I have so much. You know what I mean? And I have so much privilege in things that I dreamed, dreamt of, and I felt a lot of guilt for, like, feeling the way that I did when I knew I had all of this stuff.
- [22:46]
Justin
But do you have regret? Like, I mean, I guess. Do you. Have you ever been like, I. I wish I never did any of this.
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Brooke Schofield
Yeah, well. And I don't.
- [22:52]
Justin
I'm not talking about specific things, but, like, I know it's like a deeper conversation. You've referenced tweets, you know, like, the tweets and stuff in the past. Like, if someone were to give you the benefit of the doubt to say, you know, maybe this was a younger person and she doesn't think or feel this way. As insensitive, as wrong as those tweets were, people did find them. And, you know, it's like. And they wouldn't have found them if you weren't in the public eye. And I'm sure you've had that kind of emotional or mental gymnastics about, like, because if you just got a job is like, I don't know, whatever.
- [23:24]
Brooke Schofield
Nothing like that would have Ever.
- [23:25]
Justin
Nothing would happen and doesn't make what you. It doesn't eliminate. But I'm assuming that you didn't think that way for a long time. You know what I'm saying?
- [23:35]
Brooke Schofield
Yeah, I don't regret canceled in any way. I don't regret, you know, anything about, like, the way that my career has panned out. Of course, maybe if I could go back, I would maybe have. I don't know if I. I don't know if I would have wanted to, like, delete all of that or whatever because it was such a huge part. I mean, it was a huge learning lesson for me and it was important to, like, I needed to learn that particular lesson, like, and forgive myself for, like, having felt that way in the past. And it is cliche to say, like, everything happens for a reason. But, like, all of that led me to where I am right now. And I'm very, very happy where I am right now. And I have everything that I have because of canceled. So if that, that was the reason of all that bad, like, that bad stuff happened, I would still do it again, I think.
- [24:15]
Natalie
And what is, like, your relationship with the Internet today?
- [24:19]
Brooke Schofield
Oh, it's so hard. I struggle so bad with my relationship with the Internet because my, I'm. I'm driven completely by emotion. Like, logic is uninvolved. So, like, I can see, you know, millions of really amazing, sweet, nice messages every single day. And I, while I'm so grateful for them, my overwhelming feeling is like, everybody hates me. You know what I mean? So I, like, I struggle or it's.
- [24:41]
Natalie
Like, but there's gotta be a bad one. There's gotta be a bad one.
- [24:43]
Brooke Schofield
It's a literal self harm behavior. I noticed myself doing it. And Miles, my fiance, he. He'll see me doing it. He'll see me open up a nice message, swipe out and go look for something worse.
- [24:53]
Justin
Like, it's there. And I don't mean like you. I mean like if you're looking for. I mean, if you're in the public eye and you want to find something.
- [25:00]
Brooke Schofield
Bad about you, you'll find it. And I, I don't have to look very hard, I'll tell you that much. But I don't think.
- [25:06]
Justin
But no one does.
- [25:07]
Natalie
Yeah.
- [25:08]
Brooke Schofield
And I, I don't know, I go through periods where I am so good about it, and I, I can live outside my phone and my body and I can be present for, you know, periods of time, but then also I'll fall into it and I'll obsess over it for days and not literally look up for my phone once.
- [25:24]
Justin
Have you gotten better at least or are you still working on that?
- [25:27]
Brooke Schofield
I think I've gotten a lot better, specifically in my relationship that I'm in now. At the time that I met him, I was so consumed by that. And I was also just get like that was the midst of everything. So I was what felt like the most hated person on the Internet and I behaved as such. Like, I felt that way and I feel like he really brought me back out of my body and like I started noticing what was in front of me again. And I think that really, really helped.
- [25:52]
Natalie
You really are like the only person I feel like that can do the most normal activity. And someone somewhere will be like, oh my God, she pushed me in the parking lot.
- [26:03]
Brooke Schofield
And it's like, what the. It's like, it's craziest.
- [26:06]
Natalie
I've never seen anything.
- [26:07]
Brooke Schofield
It's a lesson I've learned. It was one thing and I completely understand being, you know, getting ridiculed or like being held accountable for things that I've, I have actually done wrong. And I've done a lot of things actually wrong. But it started really scaring me when I started seeing things that just got.
- [26:22]
Natalie
Made up, never happened.
- [26:24]
Brooke Schofield
She cut me in line at Erewhon in Calabasas. I'm like, I've never even been to Calabasas. Like just things every day where like people were making things up. And because I'm not like necessarily the most well received person, it's immediately truth. You know, same thing. Like somebody says they had a bad experience with Blake Lively, immediately everyone's like, yep.
- [26:44]
Natalie
And it immediately goes viral.
- [26:46]
Brooke Schofield
Yeah.
- [26:46]
Natalie
And it's like, yeah, names in the.
- [26:48]
Justin
Same sentence as Blake Lively.
- [26:50]
Brooke Schofield
I know. You know, little wins, little wins.
- [26:54]
Justin
You know.
- [26:56]
Natalie
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- [29:38]
Justin
Is your relationship with Tana today? You mentioned that you had just spoken with her. I think there's a lot of speculation that your friendship is not as close as it used to be and that, you know, the fallout of things that you've had to go through and the ending of your. Of canceled has played a role in that.
- [29:55]
Brooke Schofield
Yeah. So I think during canceled, like, while canceled was going on, there was speculation that, like, oh, my God, these girls hate each other. And, like, I'd say 40 to 50% of the time, it was true. Like, we did not get along. We butt heads about everything. Like, it's. It's really hard to have a business with your friends and, like, especially when you don't see eye to eye almost ever. But I think somewhere along the way, especially toward the end, when we could see, like, what felt like the light at the end of the tunnel, it became more of, like, a us against them versus, like, us against each other. But, I don't know. I feel like now I feel so much better about our relationship. We feel so much better about it. We're happy, and we are back to being friends because we struggled.
- [30:38]
Natalie
Fans noticed that she did not go to your engagement party.
- [30:41]
Brooke Schofield
Yeah.
- [30:42]
Natalie
Did she tell you beforehand she wasn't going to make it? What kind of happened there?
- [30:46]
Brooke Schofield
She did tell me she was in Hawaii, and her. She just bought a place in Hawaii, and it was, like, under construction, and so she had to be there to oversee that. And I understand. Like, that was like. Yeah, it was a valid. It's an engagement party, so it was.
- [31:00]
Natalie
Like, not the wedding.
- [31:02]
Brooke Schofield
Yeah.
- [31:02]
Natalie
There's not the wedding events.
- [31:03]
Brooke Schofield
It's not the wedding. I'd be like, of course I was.
- [31:05]
Justin
I also had friends miss my wedding.
- [31:06]
Brooke Schofield
Yeah.
- [31:07]
Natalie
It was also. Okay. Yeah.
- [31:08]
Brooke Schofield
And in the moment, I'm somebody who, like, I'm really sensitive about those things, like birthdays, like, anything. I really. I have, like, trauma about feeling like people don't show up for me, so those things usually really upset me. But she was very, like. She really communicated, and she's like. She was really good about it, so. Didn't bother me.
- [31:24]
Justin
The Shutterfly gift.
- [31:26]
Brooke Schofield
Oh, yeah.
- [31:27]
Justin
Some people thought it was, like, not enough. It was like a parting gift almost.
- [31:32]
Brooke Schofield
Really. We. I didn't get her a gift at all.
- [31:34]
Justin
Okay. There you go.
- [31:35]
Brooke Schofield
I think that was, like, a really nice gift.
- [31:37]
Natalie
Cute.
- [31:38]
Justin
Okay.
- [31:39]
Brooke Schofield
I didn't. Yeah. I didn't know we were doing this.
- [31:41]
Justin
Apparently, the Internet had opinions about.
- [31:43]
Natalie
Really?
- [31:44]
Justin
Yeah.
- [31:44]
Natalie
Yes, they did.
- [31:45]
Brooke Schofield
I thought it was amazing. It's on my coffee table.
- [31:48]
Justin
But to your point, you didn't get her anything, so.
- [31:49]
Brooke Schofield
Yeah, I didn't. She gave Me a career. I think that's, like. That's pretty valid.
- [31:53]
Justin
I think it sounds like just the way it landed. Like, you're crying the whole time, and Tana was just like. And then, like, kind of gave you a gift, almost as if because you're crying and all it was was this.
- [32:04]
Brooke Schofield
Like, I'm just, like, generally a way more emotional person than her. So, like, that was bound to happen. Like, I was gonna be hysterical, and she's just not that way. But I bought a house because Tana, of what Tana did for me, I'm more than happy with the book.
- [32:17]
Natalie
She also said, didn't she buy you a car?
- [32:18]
Brooke Schofield
She did buy me a car. So, like, I don't think. Yeah, I don't think.
- [32:21]
Justin
I feel like that's where the Internet's coming from.
- [32:22]
Brooke Schofield
They're like, oh, yeah, Maybe they were like, you set the bar a little high.
- [32:27]
Natalie
Yeah, that's true. That's true. Getting into your relationship, I know you're very protective of it. I understand why I'm very protective of my relationship with Nick. But I also am, like, I think this goes with the same kind of things we were talking about earlier. How someone can go online and say anything, and it immediately is truth, and it immediately goes viral. There's been a story about your fiance that is just, to my knowledge, completely untrue. And it's as if people think that it's, like, law the story.
- [32:59]
Brooke Schofield
Like, the instant that I announced my relationship, it was like, originally, people were pulling up photos of him and Sofia Richie because that was his best friend's little sister.
- [33:07]
Justin
Okay.
- [33:08]
Brooke Schofield
It started as a conversation about him dating underage Sofia Richie, because there's, like, these photos of them together, but these are all people who grew up in LA together. And then when that didn't stick, it became a story of a different girl, one of her best friends. It just snowballed. There was one video about it. It was made on my birthday that was, you know, Brooke Scofield's fiance is a pedophile. He dated an underage girl. She's 16 and he's almost 30, which just wasn't. Also wasn't true. But again, I just, you know, everyone accepts it immediately as truth. I was way more sensitive about it because it's wasn't just about me, it was about him. And, like, it's just not true.
- [33:45]
Natalie
Like, did that affect your, like, relationship at all? Was there any part where he was like, this is stealing, like, a part of you, and, like, we know the truth. So, like, why does it matter type?
- [33:56]
Brooke Schofield
Yeah. It's really the only like actual struggle we faced our entire relationship because it's hurt me so much and I feel like he's able, he's not really on social media. It's not, he's not as affected by it. But like if I showed you my comments right now, it's like just, you know, there's a photo of them two together that like him and the girl who it is that it's just. I get it thousands and thousands of thousands of times every day.
- [34:17]
Justin
Also seems it's a little messed up. I don't know who this person is but at the time in which this photo was taking if they were underage, like why is this person being doxxed and why is this person being caught up in a story?
- [34:30]
Natalie
Like why are people sending photos of an underage girl?
- [34:33]
Justin
I always find it fascinating the Internet the way they will in order to make a point they won't consider her or. Yeah. Just people involved or how it's like certainly to not like that degree but like you know when we cover TV shows like Love island we've covered and that audience is you know, well documented to be very intense and at times toxic. And it being, you know that the problem with like a long form show, right. Like we'll sit here and talk for like an hour, two hours and then people will make clips and then you can edit clips and you can be like well they said this. We're like we didn't say that.
- [35:08]
Brooke Schofield
We did not say that.
- [35:10]
Justin
Like you took out all the content important parts that completely changes the conversation. But yeah, I mean it's. And, and then in that to make a point about people who don't like us, they will like dox other people or, or bring up rumor. Like you know we just talked about, we don't talk about rumors and we don't platform things that we don't know. But we have been accused of doing stuff that we didn't do and only for people to talk about the very thing that people are accusing us of talking about that we didn't talk about. It's like this whole fucked up thing where it's just like no one is considering this other person.
- [35:46]
Brooke Schofield
Yeah. And I, yeah, we just, it's just.
- [35:48]
Justin
Kind of like, I don't know, it's just fucked up.
- [35:50]
Brooke Schofield
No. Yeah. I mean it's, it's so frustrating. There's so many layers to it. Like I first of all immediately I take that seriously. Like I would never want to be with somebody who dated Somebody who's underage ever. I'm sorry. Like, a lot of people don't think I'm, like, the most morally correct person, but, like, I simply would never do that. So I took it completely as seriously as everybody else when it was, like, first presented to me. And I spoke to her immediately, you know, and she was, like, so confused by the situation. She's like, what is this? What is going on? Most ridiculous thing I've ever heard. And she, you know, she talked to us about our relationship and was so happy for Miles. And she's like, nobody deserves to be happy, like, more than you. And, like, I'm so sorry that this is happening. She's like, I'm hopeful that it'll just blow over. But I knew, you know, of course, if it's about me, it's not gonna blow over. And she's frustrating. But you can see, like, it's frustrating because all day long it's like, brooke, you're ignoring the allegations. And it's like, there's no allegations. She herself is saying, this never happened. It is not true. He grew up in la. All of these people who were present during that time are telling me, absolutely not. I know who she did date during that time. I know so much about the situation. That's just, like.
- [36:58]
Natalie
It's just wild that people who. It's. Yeah, it's not an allegation, but it's just, like, wild who. People who, you know, see something online and think they know more about a situation than people who are actually there. Like, that's what blows my mind so.
- [37:13]
Justin
Much, is that it's an allegation. If it came from this person who you talked to, who said it's not true.
- [37:17]
Natalie
Nobody makes it an allegation of some.
- [37:20]
Justin
Random person, puts two things together and connects dots that aren't together and creates.
- [37:26]
Brooke Schofield
A story, a photo, just a photo of them two together. I know who else was in the room. I know. Like, I know all of these people. And, like, it's disguised as this, like, justice for her. You know what I mean? Like, she deserves justice, she deserves accountability, but she wants nothing to do with the situation. She hates this. Every single time she opens her phone, she's seeing her own face everywhere. She's getting tagged in it. You are not doing her this big.
- [37:50]
Natalie
Favor that you like things that you're doing.
- [37:52]
Brooke Schofield
Yeah, and I said this, like, when I addressed it the last time, I. And I still mean it today. Like, there are so many people who. In the public eye, specifically, who have true allegations, who have Accusers and victims who like, you know, have wives and girlfriends and partners. Never have I ever seen a wife, girlfriend or partner expected to take accountability for something that, you know, their partner did.
- [38:17]
Natalie
Literally. It's just, it's like no one has gone after Armie Hammer's ex wife.
- [38:22]
Brooke Schofield
Right. And I can think of like, you know, an influencer off the top of my head who just got, you know, canceled for a similar thing. Never have I ever opened his wife's comments and seen a negative thing. Mind you, this supposedly happened 10 years before I met him. I wasn't there. I'm not in the photo. What, what do I have to do with it? Nobody who's talking about it even knows his name. It's been about me, in my opinion, this entire time. That's why it gets me so like, just frustrated.
- [38:47]
Natalie
I mean, valid as it should, it would get me frustrated too, you know.
- [38:50]
Justin
I mean, at some point though, you're just gonna have to surrender. Not surrender, just move on. Like we said before, there's always someone on the Internet that will. You're never gonna convince everyone. I have had to learn that like on reality tv when I was like a villain on reality tv, I would meet people in person and they would go like, oh man, you're different than I thought or you're taller or whatever. And so there was a part where I was like, I'm just gonna meet everyone in the world and, you know, convince them that I'm not this way. But that's like, you can't do that, right?
- [39:24]
Brooke Schofield
Yeah.
- [39:24]
Justin
And you're just, you have to allow people to just think and feel what they want, especially when they're strangers online. I mean, I also assume, I'm assuming your audience is pretty young.
- [39:34]
Brooke Schofield
Yeah.
- [39:35]
Justin
And to that degree there's like part like, you know, I've said this to Nally when we are covering Love Island, a lot of its fan base are 16, 17 year old, 18 year olds and like, not to discount them at all, but like, they're probably going to be easily activated. There's a little, there's less lived experiences you've talked about on, you know, doing Canceled. You've had to learn lessons the hard way and it's, it was easier to point the finger without thinking about the three fingers pointed at you until something happens to you. And like usually empathy comes from lived experiences of being humbled and things like that. And when you, you know, you're a younger audience is going to just be more easily activated. You know what I'm saying? Like I Appreciate you opening up. And obviously, Natalie answered the question. But at some point, you could do a hundred more of these podcasts and you could, in theory, get everyone who's on the Internet to listen to your story, and it still won't change everyone's mind, you know, and at some point, you're just going to have to, like, let people think whatever the they want.
- [40:38]
Brooke Schofield
I know. I. You know, it can be told to me a million times. I'm hoping that one day it just. It sticks. I just struggle so much with, like, the defensiveness.
- [40:47]
Natalie
Like, I get it because it's like. And people come for us, and it's just like, none of that is true. Like, you're just. Facts are wrong. So it comes from such a place where you're like, you want to defend it so bad because you're like, there is no truth to this. And you get so angry. And we've. I'm so grateful, obviously, that Nick's been in this world more than I have. And he's like, you cannot, like, give any oxygen to these rumors. And it's like, have you ever regretted, like, posting a video and talking about whatever. I feel like a lot of the times you find out what's going on in people's lives because they get on their social media and they're like, guys, I'm here to, like, talk about the rumors going on about me. Like, they're not. And you're like, oh, my God, rumors going on about you. Like, and then they go into, like, a deal. Like, I don't know, it's like your algorithm that's feeding you. And I'm not the rest of the world.
- [41:31]
Brooke Schofield
I'm. Then if. First person to do that. And I. Yes, to answer your question, I've regretted it almost every single time because, like you said, there's so many people who, you know, go through way worse or do way worse, who never address it, and it never becomes a problem ever again. And so, yeah, I wish. I wish I had the, you know, wherewithal in the moment to be like, this is probably going to do more harm than good. You know, I'm learning.
- [41:54]
Justin
It's tough. Yeah, you want to be heard. But, yeah, Natalie reminded me of that. Yeah. It's like I. I sometimes chuckle because so many people in reality TV and my peers will platform rumors about themselves. Yeah, I've done that in the sake of wanting to let people know it's not true. And I'm always like, first time I.
- [42:13]
Natalie
Heard of it, didn't even know that was going on.
- [42:15]
Brooke Schofield
But tell me more from this point forward, I promise.
- [42:20]
Natalie
What are some things about your relationship with Miles that's different from relationships you've had previously?
- [42:26]
Brooke Schofield
Absolutely everything about my relationship with Miles is different from relationships I've had previously. I think the number one thing that comes to mind is like, who I am in the relationship because I'm somebody who struggle, like, has a little bit of identity issues. And in past relationships I've wanted to meet everybody exactly where they are. So whatever that means, my personality has to be like, I'm unsure. You know, obviously that's not a foundation for any good relationship. And that's why I've been in so many bad ones is. Cause I entered it as somebody who wasn't even me. And so I feel like being in a relationship where I'm 100%, like exactly who I am alone has been just really, really special. And he's just the, like, the best, most patient person of all time. We've never. He. He won't argue with me even if I want to. And it's just very healing after having, like, so many, like, emotionally abusive relationships in a row. So he's the best.
- [43:25]
Justin
What, what's next for you? Planning on stuff? Do you have things in the works?
- [43:31]
Brooke Schofield
I have nothing in the works, I'll tell you that much. But I. I definitely, like, have hope. I would love. I love long form content. I love podcasting. I just think, like, specifically canceled and what we had built over there, like, was not suiting either of us anymore. So I feel like somewhere down the line where I'm a little bit more, or I should say less sensitive to, you know, criticism and public opinion. I would love to start another and maybe have it be a little bit more tasteful and serious. But for now I'm, I'm. I love YouTube, I love TikTok, I love making videos and stuff. Just. I don't know.
- [44:09]
Natalie
Are you planning your wedding?
- [44:11]
Brooke Schofield
No. Honestly, like, no, I'm not planning my wedding at all. I think buying the house has just been our priority and it's given us such like, purpose and excitement and you guys know, like, yeah, picking everything and taking care of it. It's so fulfilling because, I mean, I've literally never lived in a house for more than like a year. So, like, it's really special. And I feel like that's our number one focus right now.
- [44:32]
Natalie
Do you want to have babies?
- [44:33]
Brooke Schofield
Yes.
- [44:33]
Natalie
You do?
- [44:34]
Brooke Schofield
Not for a second. I think I still have a little bit more work to do upstairs before I need to bring a life into this world. But I would love to have babies maybe within the next couple years.
- [44:46]
Natalie
Are there things that obviously you didn't get from your parents that you would want to give to your children?
- [44:55]
Brooke Schofield
Absolutely. To support, for one. I don't know. I. My mom, like, I. I say, like, all these things about her, but, like, she wanted so badly to be a mom, and she wanted to be a good mom, and she couldn't be. So, like, I just want to be absolutely certain that when I do have children like, that I'm. I'm prepared for it, and I'm not battling everything with myself to the point where I can't show up for them in the way that ended up happening to her. But I had, like. And I don't talk about my grandma a lot, but, like, she was such a perfect example of, like, what a mother should be and, like, what that's supposed to look like, that I feel like I have some. Some good influence there.
- [45:37]
Natalie
They also feel like having. I mean, having river like, healed so much of me as, like, a child. Like, yeah, you know, it's. It gay. I. I saw myself as her, and I was able to, like, love myself kind of in, like, my daughter version, which has been, I think, like, just overall, like, the best possible scenario. And I think you'll be a great mom when the time come.
- [46:07]
Brooke Schofield
I'm really excited about it, and thank you for saying that.
- [46:10]
Natalie
You're welcome.
- [46:13]
Justin
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- [48:40]
Natalie
Yes.
- [48:40]
Justin
Yeah.
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Brooke Schofield
Although I feel like we don't watch the same shows you watch Love is Blind. I did. I. I watched it like kind of background. Okay, you're not covered.
- [48:49]
Natalie
You're on your phone.
- [48:49]
Brooke Schofield
I'm not.
- [48:50]
Natalie
Yeah. You're reading hate comments.
- [48:51]
Brooke Schofield
I was reading hate comments. That's a hundred percent. I am a super fan of the challenge which you told me you've never really been into the challenge.
- [48:59]
Justin
I never got into it. Yeah. No.
- [49:01]
Brooke Schofield
It is my favorite movie. Also Big Brother just ended but I was so locked into Big Brother. It was just interesting for you.
- [49:08]
Natalie
Are you fans like Survivor and that kind of stuff too?
- [49:10]
Brooke Schofield
You are all shows like that but Big Brother specifically I love because it's so off.
- [49:14]
Justin
It's like three so you'd want to get on Traders.
- [49:17]
Brooke Schofield
I would do anything to be on Traders. I Think you have to do a reality show first. Same thing with you can't go on the challenge without having been first on another show.
- [49:26]
Justin
I mean, I don't think they have any set rules, but it's been.
- [49:28]
Brooke Schofield
But it's pretty.
- [49:29]
Justin
Yeah, it's been heavy on the reality TV star.
- [49:33]
Natalie
Yeah.
- [49:34]
Brooke Schofield
I would love to do anything like that. I'm so obsessed with it, and I get so attached to those people. The challengers. Those are my family.
- [49:42]
Natalie
Those are my family. Yeah.
- [49:44]
Justin
Could you do Love is Blind? Like, I know. Not literally, but, like, 100.
- [49:47]
Brooke Schofield
Have you guys seen my exes? Yes. I could do Love is Blind.
- [49:51]
Natalie
You're like, I was already blind.
- [49:52]
Brooke Schofield
That was. That was mean to say, but I have no physical type whatsoever. I think Love is Blind would be, like, the perfect show for me.
- [49:58]
Justin
Well, that's how you get on Traders.
- [50:00]
Brooke Schofield
Yeah. I'm engaged.
- [50:01]
Justin
True.
- [50:02]
Natalie
Yes.
- [50:02]
Justin
Yes, of course.
- [50:04]
Natalie
Speaking of your exes, have you followed or do you regret or anything with Clinton Cain?
- [50:15]
Brooke Schofield
Yes and no. I. That was so. I don't want to say therapeutic, because it was like. It shouldn't have been therapeutic for, like, me to cause, like, a. A huge hate campaign against somebody, but I also feel like there was some level of, like, community and, like, people who had experienced similar things that I. I felt good about. It was that part of it was therapeutic for me. I do often think about, like, the lasting effects that that had on him and his career, and, like, that makes me feel, like, horrible, of course.
- [50:47]
Natalie
But, I mean, some of the stuff was, like. Definitely.
- [50:51]
Brooke Schofield
Yeah.
- [50:51]
Natalie
It was kind of like you were giving, like, a PSA of, like, women. If you are gonna date this man, like, here's some things you should know.
- [50:58]
Justin
Yeah, I guess it's like, you know, when it comes to people talking about exes, and I don't know, honestly, much about what you guys are talking about in the past, but if you are dating someone and you really feel like they're. They are who they are, they're not going to learn. And the trauma, if it's real trauma that you experienced and. And that really hurt you, and you think this person is at risk of doing that to the future partners they have, I feel like that's justifiable and almost. Yeah, makes sense.
- [51:31]
Brooke Schofield
I think so, too. It was also, like, another level of deception. It wasn't just, like, you know, cheating and lying. It was like you faked the death of your family and you faked an Australian accent. Like, it was. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- [51:47]
Justin
Every once in a while I'd be embedded, and now he would tell me about you and Tano and some of the crazy escapades you guys had.
- [51:52]
Brooke Schofield
Yeah, it was. It was definitely different than, like, just being done wrong by an exact.
- [51:56]
Justin
Okay, now I'm super. What was that like to, like. That's scary.
- [52:02]
Brooke Schofield
It was terrifying.
- [52:03]
Justin
It's scary because, like, you know, we've all lied, we've all hurt the people we've loved or love actually happens a lot. But someone just faking a whole personality or Persona or life is like a whole level of deception that really can. Can really rock someone's.
- [52:22]
Brooke Schofield
It was. I wish more than anything that people could have seen the moment that I figured it out myself, because it was like. What do you mean? You know what I mean? Like, I. I of course was like in denial for a while, but, like, you know, every day I was, you know, dealing with him crying and consoling him over his dead mom, who is walking the streets of the Philippines right now, like, wild. It was so, like, it was horrible. And it was. It was honestly very violating because it felt like. I can't explain that, but I'm, you know, I'm. I'm dating and sleeping with this person who is nothing of what they say they are. It just, it felt like.
- [53:01]
Natalie
I mean, it also makes you just question everything, you know, if you're. It's like everything can give this whole story about your dead parents.
- [53:09]
Justin
Like, what the person doing now.
- [53:12]
Natalie
I believe he's. Some would say he's a singer. I don't know.
- [53:15]
Brooke Schofield
Yeah, I guess. I don't know.
- [53:18]
Justin
I never owned up to.
- [53:20]
Natalie
No, he did, he did.
- [53:22]
Brooke Schofield
Like, he's never publicly addressed it, but he did make a song where he says, like, I told the whole world where they could find your grave. Like, he's now saying, like, he was so.
- [53:31]
Justin
Like in a poem.
- [53:32]
Natalie
In a song.
- [53:33]
Brooke Schofield
In a song.
- [53:35]
Natalie
Accountability.
- [53:36]
Justin
Okay. Easter egg.
- [53:37]
Brooke Schofield
Yeah. I think his thing now is like, he had such a bad relationship with his parents that he had. He just said that they were dead. And if that were true, I would almost understand. But, like, you didn't just say that. You said that she fell down the stairs. She was in a coma for a long time. You sat there and you had to personally pull the plug. And then she gave you the deed to her eight bedroom house on the beach in Australia. Like, such detail that it's like, you can't. You can't say that.
- [54:02]
Justin
Yeah, yeah. Like, that's not. She's dead to me.
- [54:06]
Natalie
Yeah.
- [54:07]
Justin
And you're like, you left out to me, you know, like, I Can forgive that.
- [54:10]
Brooke Schofield
That's really important detail, actually. But we would be sitting at dinner, and he would just immediately, like, go cold. Go, like, start crying and go, oh, it's my mom's birthday. And did the.
- [54:21]
Natalie
Did the Australian accent ever crack? Were you ever like, oh, you said.
- [54:24]
Brooke Schofield
That if you were to watch a video, you'd be like, brooke, what do you mean? You thought that was a real Australian accent? But I'm like, oh, he's lived so many places.
- [54:32]
Natalie
I feel like it's kind of like Hilary Baba was like, how do you say cucumber? Like, I feel like that was handsome.
- [54:37]
Brooke Schofield
She cracks me.
- [54:38]
Natalie
But.
- [54:38]
Brooke Schofield
But truthfully, I mean, after just having been to Australia, I understood it a little bit more because we are not far from where he's actually from, which was from Brunei. And so I was like, maybe there's some level of. But I'm like, Boston has a different accent than us. What do you mean you have an Australian accent?
- [54:55]
Natalie
Well, you were just at an event last night with Whitney Levitt.
- [54:59]
Brooke Schofield
I love her.
- [55:00]
Natalie
What are your thoughts on Secret Lives of Mormon Wives?
- [55:02]
Brooke Schofield
I was just saying I love Whitney, but I have never seen season one of Secret Lives of Mormon Wives. I only watched season two, so I think that might have said skewed my decision a little bit. Everyone tells me that she and I look alike, so we, like, have a whole. Yeah, it's like, my number one comment on my pictures, so I thought that was fun to see her.
- [55:19]
Natalie
And your thoughts on Taylor, Frankie, Paul being Bachelorette?
- [55:22]
Brooke Schofield
I think it's the craziest thing ever, but I'm kind of excited for the drama.
- [55:25]
Natalie
Yeah, I think it'll be good.
- [55:27]
Justin
Were you a Bachelor fan?
- [55:28]
Natalie
I was.
- [55:29]
Brooke Schofield
I. I watched your season.
- [55:30]
Justin
Oh, wow.
- [55:31]
Natalie
I.
- [55:32]
Brooke Schofield
What year were you on?
- [55:33]
Justin
16.
- [55:34]
Brooke Schofield
I was in a sorority at the time. And so your season was like, everybody goes to the sorority house. It was hu. I loved it. Then. I'm watching Golden Bachelor. You are, are you not?
- [55:43]
Natalie
No.
- [55:43]
Brooke Schofield
It's so cute.
- [55:44]
Natalie
Stop following it.
- [55:46]
Justin
Yeah, we've kind of. We know.
- [55:47]
Natalie
Well, you know, like, what he's. The, like, whole thing about him being.
- [55:50]
Brooke Schofield
Oh, he said he can't talk to. Or he doesn't want anyone over 60.
- [55:53]
Natalie
And then definitely did. He was like, I regret that was an accident. And then the first night, he was like.
- [56:00]
Justin
We really liked the first season. It was very heartwarming. And. And Joan, our first Bach Rhett. Wonderful person. And that was very, like, sweet and sentimental, but what a bummer.
- [56:10]
Brooke Schofield
I. I like the women. I like the girl with the Dimple. She's so cute.
- [56:13]
Natalie
Yeah. I think watching the, like, friendships of the contestants is a little bit more heartwarming than, like, watching them try to fall in love with someone who clearly is like.
- [56:21]
Justin
But I'm excited for Taylor. I hope. I hope she. I hope she gives it the Bachelor franchise relevancy again, because I feel like.
- [56:28]
Brooke Schofield
I love a polarizing figure. That's one thing about me is I'm always gonna like the least, least liked person on a show.
- [56:34]
Natalie
Was your friendship with Paige? Was. Is there actual beef there? Did y'.
- [56:40]
Justin
All.
- [56:40]
Natalie
Not just. Are you just, like, two people who, like, don't really, like, get along, or are you like, we're actually, like, great friends and people just read into that.
- [56:48]
Brooke Schofield
We were such. Me and Paige are so close. That was the weirdest. Paige's tan. She was Tana's assistant.
- [56:54]
Justin
Okay.
- [56:54]
Brooke Schofield
And then she would co host on Canceled a lot. And people, like, made this imaginary beef and competition between me and Paige when Paige and I hung out, so much more even than me and Tana. Like, we were so close, and it was the strangest thing to witness because, you know, we look at each other wrong, and everyone's like, they hate. Yeah. They are disgusting, hateful girls.
- [57:14]
Natalie
Yeah. Or like, y' all disagree on something and be like, oh, my God, she loves to cut. Yeah.
- [57:18]
Brooke Schofield
Or you make a joke. It, like, I don't know. But Paige is amazing. She's one of the funniest people on the planet, and she's just. I want the world for Paige. She's the best.
- [57:26]
Justin
Anything you didn't get to talk about or say that you wanted to talk.
- [57:29]
Brooke Schofield
About, please let me on the challenge. Of course.
- [57:33]
Natalie
I don't know Big Brother.
- [57:35]
Brooke Schofield
I think, oh, my God, Big Brother. I don't think they would let me on Big Brother, but I think they. They are really careful to not ever have, like, influencer, like, maybe celebrity Big Brother that has influencers. But then it's like, you also have to be, like, a celebrity. So that also kind of.
- [57:48]
Natalie
I think you categorizes that by now.
- [57:50]
Brooke Schofield
But I really want to be on Big Brother or Traders. Anyone who have me, really. I'll go anywhere. Well, thank you guys so much for having me.
- [58:00]
Justin
Yeah, thanks. It was great. Great to get to know you. You seem like a lovely person.
- [58:03]
Natalie
Stay offline.
- [58:04]
Brooke Schofield
I'm offline.
- [58:06]
Natalie
Can't get to her. Also, honestly, I have to say something that, like, truly helped my mental health was restricting my comments under, like, on Instagram to people that I follow or people who followed me, like, since the beginning. Because it's like, I'm not allowing people who don't follow me to comment under my page. Hateful stuff. And I'm not allowing people who like, like just followed me yesterday because they saw a tick tock shaming me or clowning me just to go on Reddit.
- [58:35]
Justin
And read about yourself.
- [58:37]
Brooke Schofield
That used to be my literal heroine. Like, that's crazy. I haven't got in at least a year. I haven't been on Reddit because that was like, had I stayed on that pattern in my life, I really genuinely think I would have killed myself. Like, it was so dark. I do have my comments completely restricted on. Especially since the miles things for thing first happened. I, I did that on Instagram. TikTok has a new feature where like, you can filter every. You have to approve every single comment.
- [59:06]
Natalie
Oh, that's nice.
- [59:06]
Justin
Which is like too much work.
- [59:08]
Brooke Schofield
That is a lot of work. So that's what it is.
- [59:10]
Justin
I mean, there's a, there's, there's blocking comments so that like you're, you know, especially if there's rumors about you and things like that, like, you, you might want to restrict your page because you don't want people like, you know, having discourse on your page about bullshit. Like, I get that, but it really is just you not reading your shit. Like the, you know, it's none of your, it's not your, it's really, it's not your business. And honestly, like the life of any type of public figure, it's like, don't be a fan of yourself in a way.
- [59:42]
Brooke Schofield
Yeah.
- [59:43]
Justin
Like, it's like you have to disconnect and just.
- [59:46]
Natalie
It's so hard, you know, so hard.
- [59:48]
Brooke Schofield
I just, for me, right now, I only have it because of the photo. You can't block a photo comment on your TikTok. So it's like just thousands of the photo all day, every day. And it's like, like, I think the photo looks bad, of course. Like, I don't want it all over my page. I don't want everybody who opens my comments to see the photo a thousand times. But also like you're saying now I have to consume every single one. It's bad. I just, you know what? Need to get rid of it.
- [60:13]
Natalie
Well, we'll ask one last time for the fans. Listening is canceled. Actually.
- [60:16]
Brooke Schofield
Over. I think canceled is over.
- [60:19]
Natalie
Yes.
- [60:19]
Brooke Schofield
Okay. Maybe we talk sometimes about doing like one live show a year because the live shows were so, like, amazing and fulfilling and special and so maybe we would end up doing something like that. But the show itself, at least in my head, I think it's over.
- [60:32]
Natalie
Okay.
- [60:33]
Justin
Yeah. Okay. Okay.
- [60:34]
Natalie
Well, we're excited to see what's next for you. Thank you.
- [60:37]
Justin
Where can people follow you, find you all that fun stuff?
- [60:39]
Brooke Schofield
I'm Brooke Schofield on everything.
- [60:41]
Natalie
Send nice comments.
- [60:42]
Brooke Schofield
Yes, please. And yeah. Thank you.
- [60:46]
Natalie
Yay.
- [60:47]
Justin
All right, well, thanks for listening, guys. Bye.
- [61:04]
Brooke Schofield
Morning, Zoe.
- [61:04]
Justin
Got donuts.
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Brooke Schofield
Jeff Bridges, why are you still living above our garage?
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Justin
Well, I dig the mattress and I want to be in a T mobile commercial like you. Teach me. So, Dana.
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Brooke Schofield
Oh, no, I'm not really prepared. I couldn't possibly at T Mobile get the new iPhone 17 Pro on them. It's designed to be the most powerful iPhone yet and has the ultimate pro camera system.
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Justin
Wow, impressive. Let me try. T mobile is the best place to get iPhone 17 Pro because they've got the best network.
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Natalie
Nice.
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Brooke Schofield
Jeffrey, you heard them.
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Justin
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Brooke Schofield
Dude, my work here is done.
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