The Viall Files, E1029: Love Is Blind's Joe, Timothy Simons, Myles Smith, RHOSLC, RHOP & Are Boyfriends Embarrassing?
Date: November 6, 2025
Host: Nick Viall
Co-hosts: Natalie Joy, Susie Evans, Mary, Whitney Levitt, and others
Guests: Joe from Love Is Blind, Timothy Simons, Myles Smith
Episode Overview
This packed Reality Recap episode features a lively group discussing the latest in dating, relationships, and reality TV. The main themes include:
- The shifting social awkwardness of having a boyfriend (“Are Boyfriends Embarrassing?”)
- Recaps and hot takes on Love is Blind (with an interview with Joe), Real Housewives of Potomac (RHOP), and Salt Lake City (RHOSLC)
- Candid celebrity interviews with Timothy Simons (Nobody Wants This) and musical guest Myles Smith (Love is Blind reunion performer)
- Broader discourse on dating culture, social media’s influence on relationships, and pop culture headlines.
Key Discussions & Insights
1. Dating Culture & The “Boyfriend Embarrassment” Trend
(Starts approx. 09:10)
- The Vogue Article: The group dives into a viral Vogue piece suggesting that flaunting a boyfriend is now "uncool" and might even bring down a woman’s status or social media engagement.
- Susie Evans explains: “The essence… is that dating a man or marrying a man used to be a status symbol… and now men are downgrading women’s lives. If you post content with your boyfriend… you get less engagement.” (09:30)
- The hosts consider whether this reflects genuine independence or just another shallow internet trend.
- Nick: “Life is just better when you have someone to share it with, whether it’s a friend or a partner. This idea that all you need is your status on Instagram... that’s a lonely feeling.” (11:40)
Notable Quote:
"Anyone that this article influences to not date or to be like, oh, it's actually uncool... you probably are a loser to begin with."
—Susie Evans (13:05)
Timestamps:
- Article context & discussion: 09:10–15:00
2. Love Is Blind Recap & Interview with Joe
(Interview starts 39:30)
The group warmly welcomes Joe, aka "Mustache Joe," from Love is Blind, getting candid about:
- Living arrangements before, during, and after the show
- Drinking on camera, his relationship with Madison, and post-show drama (including dating Casey after Madison)
- The breakup, the need for real closure, and media fallout
Joe on the Reality of the Experiment:
- “You truly looked like you found out after the pods that you’re supposed to marry this person… as if they kidnapped you.” — Nick (42:27)
- Joe admits the pace was wild and overwhelming: “I knew what I was signing up for… but it was wild to me when they said three weeks.” (43:15)
On His Ex Madison and Eating Disorder Accusation:
- Joe discusses being blindsided by Madison’s comments in interviews, saying he never realized their conversations triggered insecurities:
- “I didn’t know about it ... There was no insecurity surrounding about that… so that one sentence gave her an eating disorder, which—if that’s her lived experience, that’s hers, right?—and I apologize if that, if that is the case, but it was incredibly wild for me to hear.” (57:42)
On Dating Casey After Madison:
- “I did date Casey longer than I dated Madison.” (52:07)
- Joe is frank about post-show hookups: “Everybody was kind of getting with everybody after the fact…” (51:22)
- Admits, “I don’t feel like I owed [Madison] anything after that.” (51:56)
The Group’s Take on Joe:
- Susie: “He looks like he’d wreck your life. And you know what I mean?” (62:47)
- Mary: “He’s definitely a lot more charming, not watching from the outside perspective.” (62:32)
- The group also jokes about Joe’s "charming dirt bag energy." (63:24)
Timestamps:
- Joe’s interview: 39:30–62:23
- Key post-interview reactions: 62:25–64:30
3. Music Guest: Myles Smith
(Interview starts 64:31)
- Myles Smith shares his experience performing at the Love is Blind reunion and for the Steelers-Vikings game in Ireland.
- Talks about touring with Ed Sheeran (“the best ginger in the world”), songwriting inspiration, and being named in the Time 100.
- Light-hearted banter about his love for Fireball whiskey ("That's embarrassing, isn't it? ... Still stand by it, it's one of the best tasting things ever." (71:25)) and salmon.
On Songwriting for Friends:
- “It’s usually like, ‘Hey, we’re getting married, like, please don’t pull out your guitar at the wedding.’” (67:53)
Timestamps:
- Myles interview: 64:31–73:48
4. Bravo Recaps: RHOP & RHOSLC
(Starting 79:51)
Real Housewives of Potomac (RHOP)
- The recap covers new drama, shade about social media “catfishing,” and relationship dynamics.
- Stacy’s quirky text to her husband (“I think you have the wrong number”) is a group favorite, with hosts dubbing her “legendary diva housewife/alert." (81:01)
Real Housewives of Salt Lake City (RHOSLC)
- The group unanimously agrees Heather is having her breakout season, calling her “free” from Lisa and “making her own choices.” (88:42)
- Britney (Brittany Bateman) gets sympathy for being treated “like a little girl”:
- Nick: “When it comes to Britney, Meredith's a bully. She tries to bully Britney, treats her like a little girl, and Britney reacts in kind.” (92:30)
- Iconic, meme-worthy moments: Angie’s injury, “farting while making out,” and the zombie dinner party.
Timestamps:
- RHOP recap: 79:51–88:11
- RHOSLC recap: 88:22–99:28
5. Celebrity & Pop Culture Headlines
(Scattered throughout, highlights below)
- Justin Baldoni vs. Blake Lively lawsuit: "He sued the New York Times. It got dropped. They’re counter-suing. He’s taking a lot of Ls.” (20:56)
- Millie Bobby Brown’s harassment claim against David Harbour: The group commends Millie for “popping off” and “being brave.” (21:25)
- Jennifer Lawrence on celebrity activism: Panel notes how divisive celebrity endorsements have soured public discourse, sharing JLaw’s view that “art should reflect beliefs, not Instagram posts.” (23:41)
- Tom Brady’s cloned dog: "It’s unnatural... but I’d try it." — Mary (26:51)
- Daniel Day Lewis vs. Brian Cox: The group loves the “old man drama” and Brian Cox “putting method acting on blast.” (29:08–30:45)
6. Timothy Simons (Nobody Wants This, Veep) Interview
(Interview starts 100:13)
- Timothy reminisces about Veep, talks about the chemistry among the cast of Nobody Wants This, and being married for 17 years.
- Thoughts on acting:
- “Chemistry is… kind of accidental. I don’t think you can really plan for it…” (103:15)
- “Improv is used for juji… less about big jokes, more about making it conversational and real.” (104:46)
- On his character’s mullet:
- “I kind of assumed he’d be more conservative… but the costume designer gave me ‘Shia LaBeouf/expensive streetwear scumbag’ references and it just worked.” (108:16)
- Family life & kids doing theatre, nostalgia for physical media (Blu-rays), and a passionate defense of collecting DVDs.
- The group grills Tim with a "Fuck, Marry, Kill" about Maine culture and asks about his podcast with Matt Walsh ("Second in Command").
Fun Quotes:
- “I think twins is just a matter of surviving to the end of the day… If you have one, it’s beautiful, you carry them around. With twins… how do we survive this?” (113:00)
Timestamps:
- Timothy Simons: 100:13–138:40
Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments
- “Life is just better when you have someone to share it with, whether it’s a friend, relative, or partner.” — Nick (11:40)
- “Anyone that this article influences to not date… you probably are a loser to begin with.” — Susie Evans (13:05)
- “He looks like he’d wreck your life. And you know what I mean?” — Susie Evans on Joe from Love Is Blind (62:47)
- “It was a moment of weakness… shouldn’t have done it.” — Joe (on making out with Madison after the breakup) (50:24)
- “I don’t think that boyfriend’s embarrassing is a thing... but if you’re so influenced by this, maybe you’re weird.” — Susie (13:05–13:28)
- “We need to stop talking about the husbands.” — Bronwyn, echoed by all RHOSLC recappers (multiple times in 89:38–99:28 recap)
- “I’m not going to turn on Lisa [Barlow]. I want to actually be friends with you… actually means calling out your BS.” — Heather (paraphrased) (88:54)
Timestamps for Key Segments
- Dating Culture & Boyfriend Discourse: 09:10–15:00
- Love is Blind/Joe Interview: 39:30–62:23
- Joe Reactions/Charming Dirtbag Energy: 62:25–64:30
- Myles Smith Interview: 64:31–73:48
- Bravo Recaps (RHOP & RHOSLC): 79:51–99:28
- Timothy Simons Interview: 100:13–138:40
Tone & Language
The episode is informal, full of playful teasing and banter, authentic emotional reactions, and a mix of empathy, bluntness, and comedy. The hosts and guests are candid, sometimes irreverent, and lean into self-deprecation and behind-the-scenes storytelling in true “Household” style.
Summary
This episode is a must-listen for fans of Love Is Blind and Bravo reality franchises, as well as those who appreciate thoughtful, funny takes on the realities of modern relationships and pop culture. The conversations are loose, honest, and stay true to the personalities of the guests and hosts—making it as entertaining as it is informative for those keeping up with relationship trends or simply craving the latest in reality gossip.
