E1032 - Elaine Hendrix Talks Dancing With The Stars, Harvey Guillén Returns For RHOSLC Drama & Bravocon Prep

Summary

The Viall Files – E1032

Elaine Hendrix Talks Dancing With The Stars, Harvey Guillén Returns for RHOSLC Drama & Bravocon Prep

Date: November 13, 2025
Host: Nick Viall, with Natalie Joy ("the Household"), special guests Elaine Hendrix and Harvey Guillén

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Episode Overview

In this Reality Recap edition, Nick Viall and the Household (Natalie Joy, Leia, Mary, Chambliss, and Heather) deliver their energetic take on recent reality TV drama and prep for Bravocon. They dive deep into last night’s wild episode of The Real Housewives of Salt Lake City (RHOSLC), prep for BravoCon with predictions and memories, and welcome two fantastic guests:

• Elaine Hendrix: Actress and current Dancing With The Stars (DWTS) contestant, opens up about her injury, the pressure of competing, and her iconic status from The Parent Trap.
• Harvey Guillén: Star of What We Do in the Shadows and self-proclaimed Bravo superfan, returns to help dissect the RHOSLC chaos and all things Bravo.

Expect candid conversations about competition, friendship, social media’s impact on reality TV, and more, peppered with jokes and sharp relationship observations.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Bravocon Prep & Predictions

[07:44 – 19:23]

• The team shares excitement, nerves, and predictions for the upcoming Bravocon.
• Iconic moments recalled: Bryn Whitfield’s Louboutin incident; Real Housewives of Beverly Hills panel chaos; Jen Shah gatecrashing parties; Erika Jayne’s divorce prediction; Luann’s elevator hook-ups.
• Style Tips: “Do people wear merch at Bravocon?” “Is this a fancy-pants event?”
  — “There are audience members that dress up because they might be on camera...the talent that are showing looks. It’s a full mix.” – Heather [11:03]
• Hilarious in-house scavenger hunt is announced, with tasks ranging from “get Jesse Solomon to lick your toe” to “take a shot from a shot ski.”
  — “The scavenger hunt prize? Clout—just that we did it.” - Chambliss [17:43]
• Predictions include: elevator hookups, public booing, Kathy Hilton product launches, rumors about RHOBH divorces, Jersey panel drama, and several “facelift reveals.”
  — “I think Kyle Richards is again gonna soft launch her bisexuality. And then I think Portia is gonna hard launch hers.” – Mary [15:07]

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2. Dancing With The Stars – Elaine Hendrix Interview

[26:24 – 49:51]

a. Elaine’s Candid DWTS Experience

• On joining the cast and loving the challenge: — “I thought it would be hard. It’s more hard. I thought it was going to be incredible. It’s more incredible. I thought I was gonna love dance again. I love it even more. Everything about it is more.” – Elaine Hendricks [27:46]

• Dedication Night: Her close friendship with Lisa Ann Walter (Parent Trap castmate) and Dennis Quaid, “ride or die” relationships, and Parent Trap nostalgia. — “We’re each other’s ride or die.” – Elaine [28:54] — “Did you imagine when you got the part that this film had the opportunity to be such a nostalgic classic?” – Nick
  “None. You never...There’s a hundred and one things that can go right and a hundred and two things that can go wrong in a film...We just got lucky.” – Elaine [31:09–31:39]

b. DWTS Injury & Perseverance

• Hurt during a lift; serious pain, hospital trip: — “It felt like my muscles separated and turned under itself and caught onto my ribs...all I have to do is deal with the pain. Dance through the pain.” – Elaine [34:49] — “You couldn’t tell you were in pain at all...The dances you did last night, you were up in the air!” – Natalie Joy [36:58]

• On competition and representation: — “My biggest competition is myself...I always set an intention. If I go out and I’ve done what I wanted to do and my best, the rest I can let go of.” – Elaine [37:51] — “I’m 54. I’m the oldest person in this competition now...if I actually won this thing...I would be the oldest person to ever win.” – Elaine [39:04]

c. Advice and Mental Game

• On pressure and Rashad Jennings’ advice:
  — “Focus on the music, cut the noise out.” – Elaine [44:09] — “I got off social media. We still recorded stuff, but I had to, because all you have to do is see that one message...” [44:54]
• Balancing busy life, upcoming projects, returning to live theater (Hello Dolly!), and gratitude for the DWTS family. — “This show has really given me a great purpose...It’s blowing my mind and I just love that.” – Elaine [41:15]

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3. Real Housewives of Salt Lake City Recap & Debate (with Harvey Guillén)

[51:12 – 89:00]

a. The “Airplane Meltdown” – Did It Happen?

• The group debates the legitimacy of Meredith’s rumored “plane freakout” targeting Britney. Lack of video evidence makes everyone suspicious; Harvey suggests a potential “witch hunt,” but others counter the strong reactions from castmates prove something real happened. — “If there’s no evidence and it’s just hearsay, I feel like the remaining cast have joined forces and almost said here’s what we’re gonna say... It’s a witch hunt!” – Harvey [58:21] — “It doesn’t have to be one of those classic freak-out airplane videos... I think it was just kind of an ongoing, loud harassment and not an actual big performance.” – Nick [72:48] — “Isn’t the smoking gun that this actually happened the fact that Lisa’s turning on Meredith?” – Heather [75:19]

b. Britney, Bullying, and Housewife Drama

• Cast speculates on group dynamics: why Britney is often targeted, and why this episode’s “bullying” seemed to hit a new level. — “I think they saw a level of high school bullying that they hadn't seen since high school.” – Nick [78:35] — “She spreads a rumor about [Meredith’s] marriage... I totally get why that would be triggering for Meredith. But the way she went about handling it on the flight...was just ongoing harassment.” – Nick [73:54]
• The significance of Mary Cosby’s intervention: — “I just don’t think we could get Mary on board if it wasn’t true. ...She doesn’t play with these little girls.” – Natalie Joy [77:34]

c. Open Relationships, Tabloid Rumors, and More

• The bombshell confessions about “agreements” and open marriages. — “Whitney Rose came out, was like yeah, we dabble in an open relationship. And that was like the fourth most interesting topic of the episode. It was wild.” – Nick [63:43] — “And I would fuck someone else for sure. I would.” – Natalie Joy [64:17]
• Harvey’s personal connection: Had lunch with Bronwyn and Todd in Utah around the filming — totally surprised by the storyline.

d. Housewives Editing, Production, and Bravo-verse

• Debate over production’s role: If the bullying was so severe, why wasn’t it captured? — “You can shoot on 4K on an iPhone now...and you can film Jen Shah getting arrested by the FBI, but not this?” – Mary [83:24] — “If this happened supposedly for four or five hours...Nobody thought to pick up at any moment?” – Harvey [86:37]

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4. Bonus: Harvey Guillén on OC Real Housewives & Bravo World

[89:00 – 91:49]

• OC drama: escalation, blend of real-life and produced conflict. — “There’s certain things that you do that you just can’t come back from. ...Every time I say that, they go there and we come back for more.” – Harvey [89:32]
• Andy Cohen confronting Tamara with her own receipts—“That’s like a producer brain.” [90:38]

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

“I thought it would be hard. It’s more hard. I thought it was going to be incredible. It’s more incredible. ...Everything about it is more.”
—Elaine Hendricks, on her DWTS experience [27:46]

“My biggest competition is myself...if I go out and I’ve done what I wanted to do and my best, the rest I can let go of.”
—Elaine Hendricks [37:51]

“If there’s no evidence and it’s just hearsay, I feel like the remaining cast of the women have joined forces...It’s a witch hunt!”
—Harvey Guillén, on the RHOSLC plane incident [58:21]

“Isn’t the smoking gun that this actually happened the fact that Lisa’s turning on Meredith now?”
—Heather [75:19]

“I think they saw a level of high school bullying that they hadn't seen since high school.”
—Nick, on the scene’s impact [78:35]

“If I actually won this thing ... I would be the oldest person to ever win.”
—Elaine Hendricks, on the meaning of DWTS victory at age 54 [39:04]

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Important Timestamps

| Segment | Timestamp | |---------------------------------------------------|-------------| | Bravocon memories & predictions | 07:44–19:23 | | DWTS Elaine Hendricks intro/interview starts | 26:24 | | DWTS – Dedication Night, injury story | 28:04–34:49 | | DWTS – Pressure, mental approach | 37:51–45:17 | | DWTS – Holidays, new theater project | 46:19–47:48 | | Harvey Guillén joins for RHOSLC hot takes | 55:42 | | RHOSLC “plane meltdown” debate | 57:52–79:20 | | RHOSLC bullying, social media, group dynamics | 79:20–87:58 | | OC Housewives/Bravo World and Andy confrontation | 89:00–91:49 |

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Closing

• Merch plug: “Our merch is finally available...get yourself some comfy, cozy, classic Vial Files merch.”
• Next week: Special two-part “Going Deeper” series with Jesse from the anticipated Mormon Wives series.
• Bravocon reporting to come!

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For RHOSLC/Bravo fans, DWTS viewers, and pop culture obsessives, this episode is a lively, insightful dive into the latest TV and streaming drama—plus the kind of inside stories and emotional vulnerability that makes both reality TV and The Viall Files so relatable and addictive.

Transcript

[Nick]

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[Elaine Hendricks]

You're crazy.

[Nick]

What's going on, everybody? Welcome back to another electric episode of the B Files Reality Recap edition. I'm your host, Nick, joined by my sparkling, joyous, creative wife, Natalie Joy, who.

[Natalie Joy]

Is wearing our merch that is live. You can click the link in bio in the bio, in the show description in the bio in our Instagram. You can go to what's the website?

[Nick]

Everyone loves the merch except Leia because she's not wearing it today.

[Leia]

This merch is so cozy. What are you doing?

[Chambliss]

You don't know that.

[Mary]

Valfau's underwear. That's unreleased.

[Natalie Joy]

We have got two sweatsets. We've got a gray sweatset and a black sweatset. The gray is our classic Jeff in a chair. It's giving Nick, it's giving Ralph Lauren. It's giving nostalgia. And then our black set is the iconic Ask Nick staple. Do you want to be right or do you want to be happy? And we also have.

[Heather]

It's cute.

[Natalie Joy]

It's cute. We also have a beige crew neck that is the same as our gray hoodie, but I'm wearing it right now.

[Heather]

Natalie, a lot of people are saying they want that beige crew neck, so that's going to go fast.

[Natalie Joy]

The beige crew neck is so cute. It looks great.

[Nick]

When are we going to get this gray, this beige hoodie that I'm wearing that is not available?

[Natalie Joy]

Yeah, Nick's a little bit of false advertisement right now.

[Chambliss]

Is Nick wearing unreleased merch?

[Harvey Guillen]

Yeah, this is.

[Nick]

I'm giving the people hope new launch goes successfully. Then we will open up the doors.

[Natalie Joy]

For other creators when we also have three trucker hats and a tote bag, so.

[Nick]

And the trucker hats are great quality. I'm very particular with my trucker hats and a lot of crap out there. Not ours. Ours of the highest of quality.

[Natalie Joy]

They will make great Christmas gifts. They will make great winter cozies, they'll make great summer cozies. They are just the perfect sweat sets, sweat crew neck hats, tote bag, everything. It's so good. It's a labor love and it's available now. So click the link. Go shop.

[Heather]

It's really easy to buy it. The link is shop vile files.com and.

[Mary]

Also you can style them in like so many different ways. Like I, I was feeling a little funky. I put a little collar, like collared shirt under my, under my little. It looks so cute and I feel so cutie patootie playmar.

[Nick]

Well, since we're on the topic of housekeeping notes, do not forget that if you are interested in being a part of a dating docu series with the opportunity to meet your person and if you happen to be somewhere in the ballpark of the ages of 22 to 45, men and women, we're looking for you both, especially the men out there. We got some wonderful women applicants and we're primarily looking in the areas of Los Angeles, California and Nashville, Tennessee. But if you are somewhere in that area and you feel so compelled to apply, please do so. Just fill out our casting call, go to our link in bio on my Instagram and the show's Instagram and we will be excited to potentially get back to you. Especially, ladies, we need some more men. So all the brothers, all the boy, not the boyfriends, but friends. Boy friends of boyfriends, a co worker.

[Natalie Joy]

A boy who is a friend, cute.

[Nick]

Guy on the bus, hinge date you.

[Mary]

Don'T think is going well, but thinks.

[Natalie Joy]

Yeah, just like they have potential for sure.

[Nick]

Yeah, sign them up, sign them, sign them up. We have a fantastic episode lined up for you today. The wonderful, charming and just an absolute gem of a person and dominating the dance floor. Elaine Hendricks is with us following last night's appearance on Dancing with the Stars. She talks about her experience on Dancing with the Stars. We get into a little parent trap. Obviously her injury that she endured during this competition that she has continued to push forward. She talks a little bit about that whole situation and what it's like for her to continue to compete. Also, we have Harvey Gin returns to the show. You know him from what we do in the shadows. Hilarious, talented actor. Also Bravo superfan. And he is helping us break down last night's absolutely Insane episode of the Real Housewives of Salt Lake City. One of the better episodes of Housewives I've seen in a long time from just pure topics.

[Natalie Joy]

So many topics, so many fights, so many things going on.

[Nick]

The fact that Whitney Rose mentioned that she and Justin are I've dabbled or participated in an open relationship and that.

[Natalie Joy]

Was just she didn't want to start a rumor about herself. They're not in an open relationship. She made that very clear. She did.

[Mary]

But they've had agreements.

[Nick]

They've had agreements. I don't know what that means either way, that was like the fourth most interesting topic on this episode. It was wild and lots to get into. If you missed two days, Tuesday's episode of Reality Recap. And you are a true crime junkie. Mandy Matney joins us. She was the investigative journalist that followed the Murdoch family and started investigating this family prior to the actual murders of Maggie and Paul because she was investigating the boat crash that took the life of Mallory Beach. And obviously they've made this very well done show that's streaming now on Hulu called Murdoch Death in the Family. She joins us to talk about that whole case to production of the show. Fascinating conversation we had with Mandy. So you do not miss that if you haven't listened to that already. We also have a fantastic week lined up for you next week. Mormon Wives, I think is a kickoff tonight. Is it tonight, the premiere?

[Heather]

Yeah.

[Natalie Joy]

Finally. All episodes at once, right?

[Nick]

Yeah, all the episodes at once. We'll start getting into it next week. We got Jesse is joining us next week for going deeper. I always say that you don't want to miss it, but you really don't want to miss this one. Obviously, Jesse is one of the key characters this season. Obviously. If you remember season two, all the stuff that happened at Vanderpump Villa with Marciano and the accusation. Season two ended with Marciano claiming that Jesse and Marciano were having an affair and were having sex and sleeping together. So obviously Jesse is a main focal of season three and there's a lot of layers here. Her husband Jordan obviously is involved in the season, but we have we've never done this before. It felt like it needed to be done for this particular going deeper. It's a two parter part one. We have me, Jesse and Natalie. And then there's a section of this interview where it's just Natalie and Jesse having a heart to heart, woman to woman. And we are talking about some very serious things when it comes to this conversation and the relationship of Jordan and Jesse and Then part two, a week later, it opens up with me and Jordan and we have a chat about some of the things that's going on and some of his behaviors. Anyways, and we all come together, the four of us. So it's a two parter. You're not going to want to miss it. We get to a lot of the things that are going on in this season of season three, so be sure to check that out. Guys, Bravocon is this weekend. I am really nervous. I leave tomorrow. Um, I'm. I'm not ready.

[Heather]

I'm.

[Harvey Guillen]

I'm.

[Natalie Joy]

I am also not ready because I don't like being home. I am flying. My best friend Chamblyson, because I was like, I just can't do this by myself. We have a demonic ice maker and every time it drops ice, I'm like, someone has broken into this house.

[Heather]

That's crazy.

[Elaine Hendricks]

Oh my God.

[Mary]

You're like buddy of the elf in an elf when he thinks the thing is the furnace or something. Yeah.

[Natalie Joy]

Yep, yep. So I'm also not looking forward to my weekend. Also, you know, Nick is my cook and last night he told me I need to start learning how to cook because how will I survive?

[Nick]

Well, she was like, what am I gonna do? And I'm like, well, listen, I love cooking for you. I do, I do love.

[Chambliss]

Well, you know, Nick, you could meal prep for her.

[Mary]

Well, with all your spare time.

[Nick]

Right.

[Heather]

Yeah.

[Natalie Joy]

It was mainly because Chambliss is going.

[Nick]

To have to smart on the container. Preheat at 450 degrees.

[Chambliss]

Make sure to label each one.

[Natalie Joy]

I mainly brought it up because Chambliss is going to have to suffer through my cooking and not enjoy Nick's amazing cooking.

[Nick]

Which, to which I said, listen, babe, I love cooking for you. It is a love language for me. I am an active service man. I enjoy being in the kitchen. But as someone who is gifted in the art of. Of culture.

[Leia]

Culinary.

[Nick]

Culinary. I feel like my wife has a front row seat on how to learn.

[Natalie Joy]

And I said, my plate's full. You can keep that. I don't also need to be leave for three days.

[Nick]

And at some point river is going to be like, mom, why can't you do what Nick? What, what dad does?

[Natalie Joy]

River does just fine when it's just the two of us.

[Heather]

Don't bring her into this one.

[Natalie Joy]

Yeah, don't bring river into this.

[Nick]

All I'm saying, there's some, there's, there's nothing fancy. It's just a little. You could live.

[Natalie Joy]

Anyways, Nick's going To Bravo con. Sierra. Mary. Justin. No Leia.

[Nick]

I'm a little intimidated by the Bravo fans.

[Leia]

What are you nervous about?

[Nick]

I just. I just feel like I don't know what to expect.

[Leia]

Oh, it's gonna be chaos. I will say that. I feel like by Sunday we are all gonna be so excited to go home. But, like, during that entire time, it's gonn fast because it's.

[Chambliss]

There's just me.

[Heather]

So much people, like, leaking, like, the decorations from the outside exterior of the building. Like, it's going viral already on social media.

[Chambliss]

I have no idea what to expect. I am, like, going to be a fish out of.

[Mary]

So, Nick, we know you're nervous about Bravo con. So to help you prepare, we as a team decided to put together a list of the most iconic moments from Bravo con and some predictions that we think are totally, 100% going to happen.

[Natalie Joy]

Oh, my gosh.

[Heather]

Exciting.

[Leia]

Let's do it.

[Nick]

To hear about this. Let's.

[Leia]

Let's get into it.

[Nick]

Prepping for Bravo con.

[Mary]

Prepping for bravo con with that household edition. Let's go. So what do you guys want to hear first? Do you want to hear predictions or iconic moments?

[Nick]

I think we go with iconic moments.

[Mary]

Okay.

[Nick]

Because I feel like that will help us with the predictions, the predictions.

[Harvey Guillen]

Oh, great. Great, great, great, great.

[Mary]

Okay. So the number one. This is my personal favorite Bravo con moment of all time, which is, you know, Bryn Whitfield. Say what you will about her, but she did one time get her Louboutin stuck in an escalator. And there is a picture of the Louboutin in an escalator just sticking on in there. And it's the best thing that's ever happened.

[Nick]

Can I wear this to bravocon?

[Natalie Joy]

I don't think so.

[Chambliss]

Not the unreleased one.

[Natalie Joy]

Yeah, literally.

[Leia]

I might wear some merch on one of the days too, but I'm like, I think you could wear.

[Nick]

Is this like a fancy pants thing.

[Leia]

People do put together looks for BravoCon?

[Heather]

Well, it depends. It depends on where you are. Like, there are the audience members that dress up because they might be on camera. Then there's the ones that just come as R. Then there's the talent that are showing looks. Cause it's Bravo. So, like, house housewives come dressed, and then you have the ones that are just, like, dressing normal as well. So I mean, there's a full across the mix. Okay.

[Chambliss]

I did spend too much money on packing on one day.

[Harvey Guillen]

Yeah.

[Natalie Joy]

Okay, well, what, What? Besides Bryn getting that Louboutin stock, what else is going on?

[Mary]

Well, there was, of course, the time that the Real Housewives of the Beverly Hills panel was stormed by so many people that they had to call security.

[Heather]

No, they had to call security. The fire marshal had to come out, say, guys, this is too much. You guys. Like, it was. It was packe. This is the one where Lisa Rana got booed.

[Mary]

Rabid fans.

[Natalie Joy]

My gosh, craziness.

[Mary]

Yeah. And then obviously, Jen Shaw, in the midst of her battles with the FBI, appearing in an after party at Bravo COD without being invited. So maybe she'll show up. Maybe she gets released early on good behavior, and she shows up this year.

[Nick]

Do they take audience questions from these panels?

[Heather]

They do. That's the thing. That's why audience members want to go. Because you can be incorporated in the drama if you ask a question that has a ripple effect.

[Nick]

Can I. Can we get on a. Can I ask a question to Lisa Barlow at the.

[Heather]

Oh, maybe. I'm sure you could just ask her in the back room.

[Mary]

And then our other iconic moment that we have before we get into predictions is Erika Jayne, I believe, getting in trouble for mocking someone.

[Heather]

Who did she mock? Sierra? I was trying to figure it out in my brain. But who did she mock?

[Chambliss]

She didn't.

[Leia]

I don't remember her mocking someone. I remember her getting in trouble. Cause she was asked the shady question, who was getting divorced next on her cast? And she said, dorit dk before anybody knew that they had problems. So that was a big leak. And then it ended up being the storyline for the next season.

[Chambliss]

Wasn't there something with Luann? I feel like she's done some crazy shit.

[Mary]

Luann's always, like, allegedly hooking up with someone.

[Heather]

You know what I mean?

[Mary]

In an elevator.

[Heather]

Yeah. She doesn't hook up in the elevator. You see her with someone in an elevator.

[Harvey Guillen]

Yeah.

[Mary]

Was that when. Oh, no, the Joe from Southern hospitality. That was after Watch what happens live.

[Natalie Joy]

Not BravoCon, right?

[Mary]

Yes. Okay.

[Natalie Joy]

And did.

[Leia]

Did Jennifer, Aiden, the whole, like, Melissa Gorga. Joe Gorga, like, throwing water. Did that happen at BravoCon in a lobby? I know it happened in a hotel lobby, but I couldn't remember if that was.

[Mary]

Wow. That's the housewife version of Solange in.

[Leia]

That elevator with Jay Z. I'm saying things get crazy.

[Chambliss]

Should we get into some predictions?

[Mary]

I think we get into predictions because this is really the meat and potatoes and what we're really excited about here. We have so many predictions before we start.

[Chambliss]

Nick, do you have any predictions?

[Nick]

I just don't know what to expect.

[Natalie Joy]

I think Nick's gonna get like attacked by someone who's fans verbally crazy.

[Nick]

You think I'm gonna be attacked by a fan or a.

[Natalie Joy]

No, no, no, no.

[Mary]

Lisa Barlow.

[Chambliss]

Nick will get at some point.

[Mary]

Yes.

[Natalie Joy]

I think someone will say, why did you say this about me?

[Heather]

Nick has security.

[Natalie Joy]

Nick has security. So trying to get sincere, ladies.

[Mary]

All right, so the first prediction we.

[Natalie Joy]

Have is security is the household, by the way, not like actual security. Yeah, it's us. We are.

[Chambliss]

We are the security.

[Natalie Joy]

Gotta get through Nick.

[Chambliss]

Don't get to Nick with us.

[Mary]

We're in merge so we look official. So our first prediction is that we think Luann will be caught in the elevator again with an alleged new hookup. And then. And we also think someone will be booed on stage. We think that Kathy Hilton will be promoting a product or speaking in a Labubu voice, possibly both. Then Crystal's ugly leather pants will be mentioned. At some point, Sutton is going to get asked about her friendship with Garcelle and Dorit will probably make up with Jeff Lewis. Reality. Von Teese Monica, Jen Shaw for sure going to be talked about. And then there will also be free Kerastase Thermatique samples available. I think that Kyle Richards is again gonna soft launch her bisexuality. And then I think Portia is gonna hard launch hers. I think Chanel Ion will say something accidentally shady. Ariana Maddox is gonna have a packed panel. No male name drops.

[Nick]

Is Ariana going?

[Heather]

Yep, yep. She has her own panel.

[Natalie Joy]

Yes.

[Mary]

And then of course there is going to be a bad facelift reveal. But there is also going to be a good facelift reveal.

[Heather]

Okay.

[Mary]

Someone might have hooked up with a below deck cast member. We don't know. We might find out.

[Natalie Joy]

I hope it's Brittany. Brittany.

[Mary]

Captain Jason affair hard launched. We think Sheena is totally going to embrace her star power with the fans. And there will be a good as gold karaoke moment. Craig Conover is going to be asked about Paige. And then Andy on a panel is going to say, and guess who we have here? Paige the Sorbo. And then everyone's going to get really excited. And then he's going to go, no, she's not here. Okay, that's what I think is going to happen. And then everyone's going to go, oh, and then Teresa and Melissa confrontation. But this is going to happen off camera. It's all going to be rumors and it will be talked about in Jersey in the future. And then they'll have separate panels for Jersey, obviously. But both of them, their main priority is going to Be peace and prosperity moving forward.

[Nick]

We have what George. People are following people back.

[Natalie Joy]

The family's healing.

[Heather]

Guys. Diag and Joe Gorga refollowed. Joe Garga and Louis also refollowed.

[Natalie Joy]

I feel like we started that here.

[Mary]

But I don't think that Tamra is gonna have love in the air for Shannon. I think she's gonna yell at Shannon at some point, and then Shannon, at the same time will officially cement herself as the physical comedy queen of Bravo at BravoCon this year. She's gonna do something amazing. She's gonna be the, like, Chris Farley of Bravo.

[Nick]

It really be interesting how Tamara chooses to carry herself at this Bravo con in the heels of this reunion dropping right now.

[Leia]

It just doesn't feel like her and Shannon have, like, any hopes of making up. So I think she's just gonna commit to it.

[Heather]

With Vicky, maybe, but I think more.

[Nick]

About the correction of it all.

[Elaine Hendricks]

Yeah.

[Mary]

And then our last prediction is that Katie Janela will be photographed with a new unnamed blogger.

[Leia]

I also think they're gonna announce Roni Legacy coming back.

[Heather]

Oh, they are. They're probably gonna do it on screen.

[Leia]

I feel like it's gonna be like Ramona, like the whole OG castle.

[Natalie Joy]

Love that.

[Chambliss]

We do also have a little game, and this is one that we are going to play throughout BravoCon. So if you would like to follow along, it will be posted on the Vile Files Social Instagram. So check out our stories. This weekend, we are going to do a scavenger hunt. And Nick, you will be participating in this.

[Natalie Joy]

Nick loves games.

[Chambliss]

So, yeah, follow along Vile Files Instagram stories, and we will be.

[Nick]

So, like, well, how do they. How do you participate in the scavenger hunt?

[Chambliss]

Well, there's a list of things that we are going to have to do at BravoCon.

[Natalie Joy]

And what is the scavenger hunt prize clout?

[Chambliss]

Just that we did it.

[Mary]

Yeah.

[Natalie Joy]

Okay.

[Nick]

Is it just us doing it or can fans participate along?

[Heather]

Fans can participate.

[Nick]

Like, if you're at BravoCon and you're listening to this, can you also do this scavenger hunt? And then can they win the scavenger hunt?

[Chambliss]

We can do that. There are no rules.

[Mary]

Yeah. I think household, extended household, family members, if you would love to participate, just like take a video of you doing the things on the scavenger hunt. We'll post it online so you can see all the things that you can do. And then you. You can tag Vile Files.

[Chambliss]

You also can send us DMs through the vile Files Instagram and give us more scavenger Hunt.

[Natalie Joy]

So now you guys have homework.

[Chambliss]

If you would like to send us more things to do, we may or may not do them. Okay. But we did put together a list, and this first one, Nick, is for you. Get Jesse Solomon to lick your toe.

[Natalie Joy]

Absolutely not.

[Chambliss]

All right. Get Meredith Marks to say hi to Mary. New VPR cast spotting. How many can we spot? Find someone with a Greek flag. Get a free Kerastase sample. Physically shake when you see Lisa Barlow. Do the splits with Kyle Richards. Take a shot from a shot. Ski Spot Dorit's chic wind chime. Mention the podcast. Spot Luann with a new younger hot man. Ask Dorinda. Medley her favorite quote from Nietzsche. Take a picture with Kathy Hilton's Labubu. Drink a screwdriver with Marisol. Ask Stephanie Sojay if you can take a ride on her private jet. Sing the Real Housewives of Miami theme song with Adriana. Get a summer house star to add you to their party full.

[Nick]

Okay. That's a lot of work.

[Chambliss]

Yeah. Well, we've got all weekend.

[Mary]

Y' all are going to be booked and busy.

[Nick]

Well, we will. We'll report back after Bravo con on Tuesday. If we survive it, we do have Elaine Hendricks up next, who just came off her performance last night. Sadly, Andy went home. What a good run from Andy, though. Did we have any favorite performances of the night?

[Natalie Joy]

Honestly, I think anytime someone dances to the song Whitney dance to, he had it coming. It's like, it's gonna so good.

[Chambliss]

And they changed up the words too, right?

[Natalie Joy]

Oh, they did. And then her, like, to her, like, camera time where she's like, mouthing though. I was like, this.

[Heather]

She's.

[Natalie Joy]

This is such a performer. It's so good. It's so entertaining. The song choice was great.

[Nick]

Who is our bottom three?

[Leia]

Elaine, I believe Jordan and Jordan.

[Elaine Hendricks]

Yeah.

[Natalie Joy]

Yeah.

[Chambliss]

Another prediction. I think Whitney will end up on Broadway at some point.

[Heather]

Well, she's going to be the role in Chicago that everybody plays.

[Chambliss]

Roxie Hart.

[Heather]

Roxie Hart.

[Mary]

Yeah.

[Natalie Joy]

Yeah. I also felt like Danielle and Dylan's choreography was top notch of the night.

[Chambliss]

Oh, my God.

[Natalie Joy]

He obviously won me over in choreography. I'm sorry, Whitney, I do still love you, but, like, it was just so hot, so steamy. So good. The, like when he lowered her down, crawl. Crazy.

[Chambliss]

Yeah.

[Natalie Joy]

Like walking on air. No. Okay, sorry.

[Chambliss]

Insane. The video that they posted to the reel of them, like, teasing that part was also like. Absolutely. I mean, she.

[Natalie Joy]

Wow.

[Leia]

I wasn't the biggest fan of Alix Earl starting off of this because I just didn't know much. But I'm like, I'm. I'm really liking her.

[Chambliss]

Yeah, her and Joey together were great. That was an awesome pairing. I really did enjoy the the relays.

[Natalie Joy]

I liked seeing Rumor and Dylan. They crushed. Yeah, Rumor.

[Chambliss]

That was a lot of fun as well.

[Nick]

So ethereal Rumor season when she won. She was awesome.

[Leia]

And her outfit. I'm sorry.

[Natalie Joy]

It was the same outfit she wore 10 years ago.

[Chambliss]

Really?

[Natalie Joy]

Yeah.

[Chambliss]

Oh, I love that.

[Nick]

All right, well, we do have Elaine with us up next to talk about all things Dancing with the Stars. And then following Elaine, we have Harvey Guillen, the hilarious Harvey Gan talking all things Bravo with us. That is all. Up next, don't forget to check out Vile Files plus for all your bonus content. We got some exciting announcements coming your way when it comes to Vile Files plus more and exciting new content as well. So be sure to check out that it's free to sign up. You just go to vilefiles.com to do so and you will be glad that you did. Let's get to Elaine. If you're still overpaying for wireless, it is time to say yes to saying no. At Mint Mobile, their favorite word is no. No contracts, no monthly bills, no overages, no hidden fees, no bs. Here's why we said yes to making the switch to getting premium wireless for just $15 a month. Ditch overpriced wireless and their jaw dropping monthly bills, unexpected overages and hidden fees. Plans start at $15 at Mint. All plans come with high speed data and unlimited talk and text delivered on the nation's largest 5G network. Use your own phone with any Mint Mobile plan and bring your home number along with your existing context. It really is a game changer. Mint. I mean their prices can't be beat. Their coverage is amazing. If you are with some of your kind of traditional legacy phone companies like we were, you probably don't even realize how much you're spending. Unnecessary amounts. And when it comes to your wireless and data and make the switch to Mint now, every dollar counts, especially in today's economy. So do yourself a favor. Get great wireless service at an unbeatable price. Ready to say yes to saying no? Make the [e-mail] v I a l l that's mintmobile.com v I a l L Upfront payment of $45 required, equivalent to $15 a month. Limited time. New customer offer for first three months only. Speeds may slow above 35 gigabytes on unlimited plan. Taxes and fees extra. See Mint Mobile for details. Well, decorating the inside of Your home is always something that is personal and sometimes, depending on who you're partnered, sometimes lead to some confrontation. But thankfully not with the good people at Cozy because they're very functional, very easy to change. Sofas not only are incredibly comfortable, they look great, but they're just incredibly easy to change things up. And if you are married to someone or living with someone who likes to redecorate the room, they're going to make you do it regardless. So at least with the cozy sofa, it's incredibly easy to move around the sectionals. The level of customization Cozy products offer shows how they're all about making your home feel like a home. Plenty of colors to choose from and plenty of configurations to play around with. We got a Cozy sectional up in our playroom at the lake as well as Jack, our team member. We decided to be great bosses and we hooked up Jack with a Cozy sofa. Here's a photo of this wonderful cozy sofa in his living room. One day you might be feeling a green sofa and the other day you might want an orange sofa. Changing covers is as easy as changing bed sheets. Also, it's really something the kids will like. That's what I really like it to have it in the playroom. Kids always like to like, mix up colors and things like that. And cozy again makes it super easy to mix things up and give you a different feel in your room with ease. Cozy's furniture collections are designed to be loved. They make your house feel like a home with practical features, true comfort and chic styles. Easy living starts at home and Cozy makes it even easier. With their fast assembly and easy to move boxes. Setting up a home is hard. Cozy makes it fast, fun and hassle free without the usual heavy lifting of other online furniture stores. Don't settle for less. Settle into a cozy, easy to assemble, effortless style and unmatched comfort. Products range from first of its kind modular sofa beds to washable rugs to modular customizable shelving. Transform your living space today with cozy. Visit cozy.com that's C O Z Y the home of possibilities made easy.

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[Nick]

Elaine, welcome to the show.

[Elaine Hendricks]

Thank you. Happy to be here.

[Nick]

So excited to have you. We were just saying before we started we're super bummed we couldn't be with you in person. But I super excited to have you on the show. Congratulations to another successful night on Dancing with the Stars. It was the big 20th year anniversary. Unfortunately we couldn't go to that as well. We, I, I selfishly went to the Packer game with my dad. We have a lake house up in Wisconsin. So you know, you don't get.

[Natalie Joy]

He chose the Packers.

[Nick]

I chose the Packers. Over 20 years of dance, Dancing with the Stars.

[Elaine Hendricks]

But I mean I don't really understand. But sure, right.

[Natalie Joy]

I don't either.

[Elaine Hendricks]

I was also punished.

[Nick]

We went and celebrated 20 years a couple weeks ago. But okay.

[Elaine Hendricks]

I mean the dad. I understand being with dad. But the Packers. You've lost me.

[Nick]

Sure.

[Elaine Hendricks]

But, but I'm a Vikings girl.

[Nick]

Oh yeah.

[Elaine Hendricks]

Let's go.

[Nick]

Are you from the Midwest?

[Elaine Hendricks]

No, I'm from Tennessee. But how did you become a Vikings? My cousin Is Harrison Smith, free safety, number 22.

[Nick]

Oh, shit.

[Elaine Hendricks]

She said Harry the hitman.

[Nick]

Very, very. For those of you who don't know, extraordinarily talented free safety in the NFL. Wow. Well, first of all, let's focus on you. You're crushing it this season. We're loving watching you dance. It's incredible.

[Elaine Hendricks]

Well, I'm loving dancing, so thank you.

[Natalie Joy]

Did you think that you would love it as much as you do?

[Elaine Hendricks]

I did, actually. I did. I will say, everything about this show is a little bit more like, I thought it was gonna be hard. It's more hard. I thought it was going to be incredible. It's more incredible. I thought I was gonna love dance again. I love it even more. Everything about it is more.

[Natalie Joy]

We were there on dedication night, so we were in the room with you and Lisa and Dennis, just all of our friends, you know, and that was such a nostalgic, like, such a great night. What? I guess, like, I know Lisa's your, like, your best friend, so was that kind of a conversation that y' all already had of like, you're gonna do this with me before dedication night even came along?

[Elaine Hendricks]

No. I mean, once. Once I knew we were gonna do dedication night, like, there was only one person. Like, there was no question at all. So I. I did just call her and say, hey, you're gonna do this. And she's like, okay. Like, yeah. There was no asking, but are you available?

[Harvey Guillen]

Yeah.

[Elaine Hendricks]

Yeah. No, if we did have to, I. You know, she's on Abbott elementary, so we did have to work out that schedule, but they were so kind to do so. And. Yeah, I mean, we're each other's ride or die.

[Nick]

That's real friendship, where you can just be like, you're. You're doing this, like.

[Elaine Hendricks]

Yeah, well, that's kind of how we are with each other. We get real bossy.

[Leia]

We're like.

[Natalie Joy]

And did y' all meet on the set of Parent Trap or did y' all know each other before that?

[Elaine Hendricks]

No, we met. We. We very first met in the waiting room doing, like, the chemistry reads. She was doing the chemistry read with Dennis Quaid and Lindsay Lohan for Chessy, and I was doing the chemistry read for Meredith Blake, Obviously iconic. And. And that's where we first met. But then on set, we were there so much. And, like, that was back when films were actually, like, films being made. So, you know, that movie took six plus months to make, and we were on set a lot because they would always be changing Lindsay over to play the other twins. So there Was a lot of downtime and we just ourselves like creating characters, getting dressed up, doing photo shoots, being girls, and it was great.

[Nick]

That's amazing. That's amaz. Did you grow up watching, I mean, the Parent Trap as a young child with the original version?

[Elaine Hendricks]

No, my mother, my, that was my mother's generation and she wanted to be Haley Mills when she was younger. And so when I got this opportunity, it felt extra special and I really kind of wanted to do it especially for my mom. So the further I got in the process for her, like I watched the original and then I started like copying little things that the original character, Vicky did, like a charm bracelet and that's the cut of the dress that I wore for my audition process anyway. And then once I actually got her, then it just became a whole different deal.

[Nick]

Did you imagine when you got the part that this film had the opportunity to be such a nostalgic classic that it is? I mean, obviously the first Parent Trap was hugely popular. I feel like the remake that you guys were a part of is. Is equally, if not more popular and, and it really just, it's just a classic in the truest sense that like it's still to this day a film that people really enjoy. It's nostalgic. It reminds us of our childhood. We can still sit down and enjoy it. Did you have any concept of that possibility when you first took. Took the part?

[Elaine Hendricks]

None. No. You never. Like you, there's 101 things that can go right and 102 things that can go wrong in a film. And so you, you do your best, everyone does their best. And then, you know, you go with God and see what happens. And we, when we did that, you know, there was no social media. So I always, like now especially I do wonder, like, what would the Parent Trap be today with social media? Like, how would be it. It be received and how, like, what kind of legs would it have? Because, I mean, let's get real. When you really start to break down the story, there's, there's, there's some holes there, there's some, there's a lot of questions there. So you know, Meredith Blake, her, her redemption story is turning for a reason.

[Nick]

Yeah, you're like, why did we keep these twins apart for so long?

[Elaine Hendricks]

That seems real petty. So, yeah, you can't think too deep about it. But you know, Nancy Myers and Charles Shire, they just, they know how to make. Well, the late Charles Shire, they just know how to make movies. And Nancy knows how to capture the warmth of humanity and Wrap it in a really pretty package for people to digest. And that's her gift. And I'm so grateful that I was a part of it.

[Natalie Joy]

We're grateful you were a part of it, too.

[Nick]

Did getting Dennis to the audience of Dancing with the Stars, was that an easy ask? Was he all for it, or did we have to call in some favors?

[Elaine Hendricks]

Nope. Easy peasy. Because we stay in touch. And he texted me at the beginning of the season, and he said, we're watching it every week, sitting here with my wife and my daughter, and we're voting for you. And, oh, my. I'm so proud of you.

[Nick]

That's awesome.

[Elaine Hendricks]

Yeah, it was really sweet. And so then when the dedication week came up, because he splits his time, you know, he's working, he's traveling and everything, I said, would you happen to be in Los Angeles this week? And he said, I am. And I said, okay. Would you happen to be free Tuesday that you could come to the show? And he goes, I will. I will be there. And then he walked in the door, and he had on jeans, a white T shirt, and a brown suede jacket, just like he wore in the Parent Trap. And I clocked it immediately. And he said, do you see what I did for you? And I said, I see it loud and clear. Thank you.

[Natalie Joy]

Thank you.

[Nick]

That's a great, great story. So great to see you guys stay so close over the years and, like, kind of keep that. That family dynamic within that cast. It's. It makes us, the fans of the show, just kind of love it even more, you know?

[Mary]

Yeah.

[Elaine Hendricks]

And I love that. I mean, it was. It was a very special experience for us. And then the long legs that it's had and the amount of love and support we still get just makes it all the more special still, like, it's incredible. So I'm so. I feel. I feel. I don't know, like, not responsible. It's not that. It's like, I feel honored. It's somewhere in there. Like, I. Like, I want to give back to the fans. Like, please let me give back to you how much love that you've given to me, to us, for that film. So I'm happy to do it.

[Nick]

That's fantastic. Well, let's talk a little Dancing with the Stars. How are you doing post injury? I mean, we were all fans of you. We're a little nervous. Obviously, they had to air your. They had to air your rehearsal dance because you weren't able to perform. But you.

[Heather]

You.

[Nick]

You bounce back. You seem as good as ever. I don't know if you're still dealing with, you know, any residual effects of the injury, but can you walk our audience through with that whole experience and what that was like?

[Elaine Hendricks]

Yeah. So the week before when I was doing Defying Gravity, was our first week doing lifts, and I just tweaked it in a landing, actually, and I didn't think much about it. It was like, oh, okay. But I. L scraped my elbow and I had a bruise on my elbow and I had a bruise on my rib exactly where my elbow went into my ribs. And it was like, oh, it kind of got sore. And then it got a little worse. And it got a little worse. And then we did. The next week was the Argentine Tango, where the lifts are even more than they were in Defying Gravity. And Alan kept saying, you know, do you want me to back off? And I'm like, no, I want to go for this. Because that's, you know, that's my whole thing, is that I'm just loving it. Just please let me, let me leave. Let me leave it all out on the dance floor. And, yeah, it was show day, dress rehearsal. I'd already gone through hair. I hadn't gone through makeup yet. We were doing what they call a tempo check, where we're doing it with the band. And it literally felt like my muscles separated and turned under itself and caught onto my ribs. Like, that was the best way that I could describe it. As I'm telling, like, the. The emergency people and the fire firemen who showed up. And all I was thinking in my head was, okay, what, like, what can we do to get me ready for the dance tonight? And they said, we've got to take you to the hospital. And I begged them not to. I was like, I just didn't want any of it to be happening. And unfortunately it was. And then I finally just had to surrender to it. And I went to the hospital. We did, like, EKG, X rays, MRIs. Nothing was broken, nothing was punctured. There's no permanent damage. They're like, there's nothing that I can do that's going to make it permanent damage. So once that pain tolerance thing. Yeah, so once that was off the table, it was like, okay, great, awesome. Then all I have to do is deal with the pain. And, yeah, I'm still like, we're managing that. But for me, like, now my mantra is dance through the pain. Eye on the prize.

[Leia]

You couldn't tell you were in pain at all. I was like, the two dances you did last night, you were up in.

[Natalie Joy]

The air you were like, are you good?

[Elaine Hendricks]

Yeah. We got a really good doctor on this show, let me tell you.

[Nick]

So who's left? We had Andy go home. So we got you. We have Dylan, we have Robert, we have Alex and Whitney Jordan. 6. Okay, so we start.

[Elaine Hendricks]

And Elaine.

[Nick]

Elaine.

[Elaine Hendricks]

Yeah. It's a stacked season. I'm like, of all I got asked to do Dancing with the Stars before and it wasn't the right time for me. This was the right time in so many ways. Except for that. Like, why am I in, like one of the hardest seasons, like one of the toughest competition?

[Leia]

It's like, no, truly, everybody brought their A game. Even Andy last night with his little rip open of the shirt. I was like, everyone's just doing so good at this point. You don't want to see anybody go home.

[Elaine Hendricks]

I know.

[Nick]

Can we ask, who do you think your best competition is?

[Elaine Hendricks]

This is. This is going to be corny, but it is the truth. My biggest competition is myself. And especially at this stage in the game, it becomes so mental. Like, I'm an actor. I'm used to that. I'm used to going into an audition and I can't compete against the other, however many women, other actresses in the waiting room because we're all different. So the only thing I can do is do my best performance and then hope I get the job. So I'm very used to that. I'm not an Olympian, I'm not an athlete. You know, I don't do those kinds of competitions. So I gotta stay in my lane. And for me, that means that I always set an intention. If I go out and I've done what I wanted to do and my best, the rest I can let go of. And so that's what I have to focus on every week.

[Nick]

That's a healthy approach. Have any of your castmates or your fellow competitors, do you enjoy, like watching. Has anyone surprised you where you're just like, wow, you know, just, I'm competing against them, but, you know, really enjoy their dances?

[Elaine Hendricks]

Yeah, no, all of them. I think everyone this season has brought. I really do think it has been such a stacked season and everyone has their own strengths and everyone brings their own touch to their dance. Like, I think everyone is very distinctive in who they are. And so I enjoy it all. I am soaking it all in. It's in two weeks, it's gonna be over. It feels like it's already been 200 years, but at the same time, like, it's also flown by and I'm just Trying to soak it all in. Because the truth is like, here's my T shirt. I really am. I'm 54. I'm the oldest person in this competition now. And if I dare to dream that if I actually won this thing, I learned the other day doing the Hollywood Reporter interview that she told me I would be the oldest person to ever win this thing. And it's like, that's what I said. I was like, really is really? And so I haven't fact checked that, but I trust her. And so now, like, part of me is like, you know, you go into the. I came into this going, yeah, I'm gonna win it. And then every week that I go now I'm in the semifinals. It's like, wait a minute, could I, like, I don't know, like, do I really truly dare to dream? Because it's become. It's definitely about me dancing, but I feel like it's about more than that. It's really become about representation for older people, older women, and I'm happy to, like, I'm happy to carry that mantle.

[Nick]

Hell yeah. I was gonna ask you, what would winning mean to you, but it seems like a little bit of what you just talked about.

[Elaine Hendricks]

Yeah. This show has really given me a great purpose, certainly with performing, but for me, it's so multi leveled with like going back to dance after I'd been hit by a car, you know, 30 years ago and proving to myself and then having so much love and support people. At the show. Last night I had someone come up to me and said, you know, I was thinking about retiring. And then I saw you and I've decided I don't want to. I'm gonna keep going. And I'm getting that every single day. So it's like, it's blowing my mind and I just love that.

[Nick]

That's. That's amazing. How many people do we know, have they announced, like, how many people are going to make the finals?

[Elaine Hendricks]

I don't, I don't know. Like, that's above my pay grade. Yeah. So I. I feel like anything can happen on this show. I feel like it's been a wild, wild ride. So I don't know. All I know, all I can say is however many I hope Elaine Hendricks is in it.

[Natalie Joy]

Yes. How did, who did you enjoy dancing with more, Rashad or Alan?

[Elaine Hendricks]

Oh, you know, listen, Rashad, this whole experience has been like, add water, insta family. Alan and I are so tight now, but Rashad swooped in and brought such incredible energy and had such a calming Effect on me. We were just texting. We're like, friends for life. Like, I adore him, so I loved it. I actually thought that was a really great challenge that I bet they're gonna. I bet they're gonna keep for a while, because I think the audience enjoys it.

[Nick]

Fun. Really nostalgic. Rashad was on the season I was on, and that he won. I'm curious. I know, like, talking. He was. He was brilliant, and I had a great experience. But I know through over the years, I kept up with Rashad a little bit, and he mentioned that he's, you know, after he won, he kept up dancing a little bit. If they were to ask me to come back and do a dance, let's say with you, I wouldn't remember much. I'm curious. Did Rashad come in with a lot of, like, hey, I know the steps, or did he have to, like, really relearn a lot of stuff? And how much time did you guys get to practice together?

[Elaine Hendricks]

It was astounding how quickly he learned the steps. Astounding to me. Yeah. Cause we didn't get this week. Alan and I had our main dance, and then they were also. The pros are constantly, like. They've all got, like, two or three other shows happening that they're having to rehearse for, prepare for. They all have different deals going on, and so they're really busy. And some of our rehearsal time got cut into this week, and so I feel like we didn't have our normal amount. And Rashad just, like, jumped in and was like fish and water. But he told me, which I thought was really interesting. He said every. He said back when he was playing in the NFL, every single season, he picked up a new hobby and he focused on it. And one of the years, he just, like, he saw a dance on a commercial, and he's like, I want to do that. And somebody said, that's the cha cha. And so he went seeking the cha cha and literally wound up being asked to be on Dancing with the Stars. And his first dance with the cha was the cha cha.

[Heather]

Wow.

[Elaine Hendricks]

And he said, so I did my cha cha. And I thought, like, okay, that was going to be it. And then he ended up freaking winning the whole thing.

[Natalie Joy]

That's crazy.

[Nick]

Yeah, he was great.

[Natalie Joy]

Did he give you anything, any advice about, like, being at this stage in Dancing with the Stars? The competition being, like, more intense than ever? Did he give you any advice?

[Elaine Hendricks]

Yeah. Cause I said. I said, this is the. Like, this past week was the first week that I felt pressure in this show. And I was like. And I don't like it. Like, I. I'm just like, I do not like this feeling, this pressure. And so I said, what? You know, what do I need to do? And he said, stay in love with the dance. Focus on Alan. Focus on me. Fall in love with the music and cut the noise out. And so that's what I did. I got off social media. I didn't do any social media this past week. I didn't. We still recorded stuff, and I have people helping me, but I, like, I had to, because, you know, it's just that all you have to do is see that one message, and then, like, of course your brain is gonna, like, stick to that. So I just didn't want to see anything, and. And that helped me.

[Natalie Joy]

Do you feel like that's something you'll continue to do throughout the next two weeks?

[Elaine Hendricks]

I don't know. I'm trying to just kind of take it week by week. Like, today I feel so relieved that I don't. Like, today I don't feel the pressure. Today, I just feel relief. And like, okay, I'm ready to go to rehearsal, and let's do it all again. I mean, Nick, you know what it's like? It's like you, you, you do it, then you let it go, and you're on to the next. You don't even get to celebrate.

[Nick]

The next day after a dance was always this. I mean, I. It was the scariest day for me because I felt like I could barely get the steps up till, you know, performance night. And then I had to relearn, like, a whole new language, right? It's just so intimidating. And you finally feel like you're getting. You almost wish you had two weeks, right? Like, it's like that first week to warm up. You got to practice it, get out of your system. And now you want to really refine it. And they're like, no, forget all that completely new dance, completely new steps. I have so much respect for all of you guys because, I mean, I felt like it did fine, but you're really crushing it out there, there. It really seems like you guys have been practicing these dances for weeks, and it's been really fun to watch you all.

[Elaine Hendricks]

Oh, God, thank you. Because no, I, I, I. That is part of the competition. You know, it's like, it would be a different thing if you did have more time, right? Like, part of it is you got to crunch it in. But I agree with you. It's like, just a little more time like, just a little would. Would be nice.

[Nick]

Do you have any fun plans for the holidays after dancing reps?

[Elaine Hendricks]

And I am going into such a busy 2026 that I'm gonna try, try to have a little downtime. I help take care of my dad back home. And so I'll go home, I'll. I'll scoop up all six of my animals. I'll go see my dad, visit with him, have a little bit of time over Christmas and then. And then I'm right back into it.

[Nick]

All right.

[Natalie Joy]

Do you enjoy being this busy?

[Elaine Hendricks]

I do. I'm not someone. I'm very type A plus and like, I know how to relax, but I don't want too much relaxation.

[Nick]

I'm kind of like that. Any, Any fun things you can tease about what you're working on for 2026.

[Elaine Hendricks]

It's so annoying. There's two things that I am dying to tell people and I can't. And that just infuriates me because I'm like, it's. I'm like, so excited about it, so I'll be able to talk about. But the one thing I can talk about is because it's been in the works for a while is I'm gonna go do hello Dolly in a regional theater.

[Natalie Joy]

Oh, wow.

[Elaine Hendricks]

Which.

[Heather]

Exciting.

[Elaine Hendricks]

Yeah, this Dancing with the Stars. And then into 2026. I really set an intention that I wanted to go back to more live performing. I'd been a little burned out on film and television and I wanted like the, the, the juice that I get from the audience. And I am getting it in just droves. So I welcome it all. It's awesome.

[Nick]

Well, that, Elaine, I can't thank you enough for taking the time and talking with us. When you get to talk about those next exciting, fun projects you have, please come back and tell our audience all about it. Please remind my audience how people can vote for you. What's the number to text?

[Elaine Hendricks]

Yes. Thank you. Okay, so next Tuesday semifinals between 8pm and 10pm Eastern Standard Time. Whatever time zone you in, you're in, line it up to 8 to 10pm Eastern standard. And you're going to text Elaine E L A I n e to 21523. And then you're going to also go online to DWTS vote.abc.com and vote for us there.

[Nick]

All right, we'll put all this information in our show bio. Be sure to vote for Elaine. She is dancing with an injury. She is enduring pain for your entertainment. So let's reward our girl. Girl, make sure you can vote for her. Elaine, wishing you nothing but the best. Good luck the rest of the way. It's been so fun to watch you. Happy holidays. Please come back and we'll talk soon.

[Mary]

Actually, we, we do have one more thing to show you. We made a fan cam.

[Natalie Joy]

What is that? What is this view?

[Heather]

Leia, if you can share it, please.

[Mary]

Gonna share it. You'll see.

[Elaine Hendricks]

Being young and beautiful is not a crime, you know.

[Nick]

Ah.

[Elaine Hendricks]

Oh Lord.

[Nick]

Your parents need a bottle.

[Harvey Guillen]

Water.

[Natalie Joy]

My titties.

[Elaine Hendricks]

You found my Houdini video.

[Mary]

Yes.

[Natalie Joy]

So iconic.

[Mary]

Your iconic history of dancing in music videos. Pre Dancing with the Stars.

[Chambliss]

Yes.

[Elaine Hendricks]

Oh my God. I love that so much. I can't wait to share that.

[Nick]

Well, we will be putting it on the Internet for everyone to see. Elaine, thank you so much. Elaine Hendricks, everybody. Be sure to go vote for her next Tuesday night. Good luck the rest of the way. I'm, I'm feeling good about your chances.

[Elaine Hendricks]

Thank you. I'll take it.

[Nick]

Thank you. Up next we got Harvey Guillen. Talk a little Salt Lake City housewives. That's next.

[Natalie Joy]

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[Nick]

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[Nick]

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[Natalie Joy]

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[Nick]

Harvey, welcome back to the show.

[Harvey Guillen]

Thanks for having me back. Always fun. Missed you guys. Love the merch. Love the merch.

[Nick]

Well, it is good merch. Yeah.

[Harvey Guillen]

I walked in and I was like, I love it.

[Leia]

It was the first thing he complimented me on.

[Nick]

Is it available now for people to purchase?

[Mary]

Is that it's available now for people to purchase.

[Nick]

It's available now for people to purchase. So.

[Harvey Guillen]

So plug.

[Nick]

I saw a lot of comments on the post that Natalie posted. I did not have the flu and yes, I thought I looked good. The merch looks so good that I was comfortable. You don't know this, Harvey, but I mentioned that people who wear sweatsuits during the day. I feel like I have the flu if I'm just in wearing.

[Natalie Joy]

Isn't that crazy?

[Harvey Guillen]

Yeah, I used to think that, but traveling more and more as the years go by. I love a good sweatshirt sweatsuit for like a long. I just got back from Nova Scotia and a long trip with a nice sweatsuit is so comfy. It's just a step away from pajamas because you're like, I'm not that person.

[Natalie Joy]

Do you have to say Nova Scotia with that accent?

[Harvey Guillen]

Nova Scotia.

[Heather]

I know.

[Harvey Guillen]

I don't think I did an accent.

[Natalie Joy]

Yes, he did.

[Harvey Guillen]

Thank you.

[Natalie Joy]

I think he did.

[Harvey Guillen]

I did not do an accent.

[Nick]

Were you there for work or pleasure?

[Harvey Guillen]

That. Why can't it be both? Por quen nos los dos me?

[Natalie Joy]

Why can't it be both?

[Heather]

Me.

[Harvey Guillen]

Mucho bueno. Gracia biblioteca.

[Chambliss]

On.

[Harvey Guillen]

Just saying every foreign language word. You know, arigato and chow bella. Oh my God. We missed you guys.

[Leia]

We've missed you.

[Elaine Hendricks]

What were we talking about?

[Harvey Guillen]

Pajamas. People step away from pajamas but not having the flu. And no, I don't think you have the flu. I think you're just comfort and it's how you wear it. I've seen people walk in with the most confident with juicy on their ass and the confidence in them and they should not not be that comfort.

[Nick]

I Wore Uggs with my sweatpants, and I felt like it was really elevating my game.

[Harvey Guillen]

I like that. That sounds comfy.

[Nick]

Actually, it was.

[Harvey Guillen]

I don't mind that.

[Nick]

Comfortable and cozy. Well, we are excited to talk to you about all things Bravo. We got. We really want to get into, obviously, Salt Lake City, because last night's episode was an absolute banger.

[Harvey Guillen]

Wow.

[Leia]

I have so many questions, Emmy.

[Harvey Guillen]

Television doesn't get better.

[Nick]

What's so. I mean, there's so many fascinating layers to this episode, but the fact that the biggest part of the this episode, the storyline with Meredith, losing her, happened off camera, that really, to me, tells you, like, this was an event of, like, this was Meredith Marks. Not TV Meredith Marks, but this was Meredith Marks. Like, whatever happened and whatever people think about it, like, this was something that, like, this wasn't her doing a scene.

[Mary]

Allegedly.

[Harvey Guillen]

Allegedly. And, you know, I will say this because she did redeem herself in. In my eyes. I know Meredith, and I think that if you don't have evidence, like, no one took footage of it, no one took audio of it.

[Mary]

Thank you.

[Harvey Guillen]

There was a camera crew in that plane. There's a whole camera crew in economy, but there's a camera crew in that plane that could have ran up to the front, got a little bit on the iPhone if there's no evidence and it's just hearsay. I feel like the remaining cast of the women have joined forces and almost said, here's what we're gonna say.

[Nick]

Really?

[Harvey Guillen]

Here's what I envision. They all got together and they're like, I'm just. I've had it. Here's what we're going to say. She goes crazy on the plane. We all agree she went crazy on the plane, right? And then everyone goes, it's a witch hunt. It's Salem witch trials all over again.

[Chambliss]

Did you.

[Mary]

You're so right. Thank you.

[Natalie Joy]

Did you get, like. Did you take drugs or get drunk this morning?

[Harvey Guillen]

Did I take drugs?

[Natalie Joy]

Yeah.

[Harvey Guillen]

Is that rhetorical?

[Natalie Joy]

It's a crazy take. That's a crazy take.

[Nick]

Listen, I don't agree with the take, but I think it's a valid. I think it's a valid take.

[Natalie Joy]

I have a question before we get into our rapid recap. That is absolutely not rapid whatsoever. It's the longest recap I've ever seen in my entire.

[Mary]

Okay, I'm sorry.

[Elaine Hendricks]

There was a lot to get.

[Natalie Joy]

No, it's totally okay.

[Harvey Guillen]

But we're here for the weekend.

[Natalie Joy]

Exactly. Who do you think was the first person that told production about, like, who do you think was like, oh, my God, guys, you missed it. This is what happened on the plane.

[Harvey Guillen]

Heather.

[Nick]

Yeah, Heather.

[Harvey Guillen]

Because Heather is always on. On the storyline brink of the next thing. She's always the first person to have lunch with you and say, like, can we have lunch?

[Mary]

You.

[Harvey Guillen]

You are unhinged. You are crazy. I have a book coming out. Like, she's always the first person to kind of.

[Heather]

She's the narrative.

[Harvey Guillen]

She's the narrative. She's the narrative. And then that's why I'm always like, wait a minute.

[Nick]

But Heather's having her dream season that I always wanted for her, which is to not live in Lisa's shadows.

[Harvey Guillen]

Jumping on Captain's back to be.

[Nick]

She's kind of. She's become the Don Corleone of the group. Like, you know, you have to sit down with Heather when you misbehave.

[Harvey Guillen]

You do. And I used to feel like Mary was that. And Mary went away for a second and then came back. And Mary's just happy to be here, I think, right now. And Mary. Mary's just like. She knows what her. Her thing is. Her tagline is comic relief. Her confessionals are gold, and so she knows what she provides.

[Nick]

Except for last night when it was like, oh, if Mary's having this conversation, you know, it's serious.

[Harvey Guillen]

Did the girls get together with Mary and say, look, why don't we all agree this is what happened?

[Natalie Joy]

You think Mary would do that, or do you think Mary would be like, bitches?

[Harvey Guillen]

I don't. I think Mary would be on the side that, like, you know, moves the story along right now. I feel that it's a smart move to kind of be in the right room at the right time. And so I feel like she was you. Really. And then Meredith said you were asleep for most of the. That doesn't matter because I woke up, you were screaming, and I was like.

[Heather]

So wait a minute.

[Harvey Guillen]

You were asleep for most of that long ride, but when you woke up, you happened to hear a little bit of screaming? No one caught it on tape. It's all here. It's a witch.

[Nick]

That's an interesting take, Harvey. And we're going to read this rapid recap, and then we'll get into a little debate.

[Natalie Joy]

So in case you have no idea what we're talking about and you missed the most recent episode of the Real Housewives of Salt Lake City, here is your rapid recap. Meredith was not there for Britney's theater kid energy, but her and Lisa also thought the Tin man was the one with no brain so she obviously is not a patron of the craft. But Meredith is both a survivor of a toe injury and a tried and true hater because she and Bronwyn decided to throw Britney stuffed unicorn overboard while wearing blow up suits that billow in the wind. RIP Uni the unicorn you are loved. Oh and also she can excuse Lisa calling Bronwyn a gout dick sucker but draws the line at Britney bringing up a ticket tock. So Bronwyn asked Mary to step in and in the Meredith Britney feud as a woman of God. But God was nowhere near that sea that day my friends. And that's it for the Below Deck down under crossover. Unless. OMG Uni the unicorn was rescued and the drama did not stop there because apparently Meredith crashed out on the plane and Lisa encouraged it like screaming, crying, throwing up. Crash out. Psycho crash out. Also unsure if it was just incredible editing choice or something that happened in real life, but Crazy Rich Asians was shown as the in flight entertainment. I didn't notice that it did.

[Nick]

That is a great in flight movie.

[Natalie Joy]

It's the perfect afterwards Britney could still feel the trauma in her body. She also was more mad at Lisa because she stuck up for her at camping. Bronwyn wasn't there and isn't sure if the crash out was a dramatic as the women are saying because no one took a video. What she did think was real were rumors that Todd was looking at sexy photos of another woman on a plane. And for the record, Bronwyn is totally down for her and Todd to see someone across the bar and love their vibe.

[Chambliss]

Mary.

[Natalie Joy]

Bronwyn is totally down for her and Todd to see someone across the bar and love the vibe. You know she just doesn't want to find out about it. On twitter.com Whitney also revealed that she and Justin have low key had agreements as well so the girls get it. Anyways. Electra tells Angie she doesn't want to compete for Greece if she ever made it to the Olympics because she's not that into being Greek. Angie was heartbroken but nevertheless she is persisting in getting that dual citizen. Also Lisa told Heather that she's not her God, not her judge and isn't responsible for controlling Meredith's crash out. She also feels like she's in Willy Wonka cuckoo town. Meredith denies to Mary she was being cuckoo town on the plane and Mary was like girly pop. I was there. What's going on with you? Overall, for everyone that has issues with our plane stories, be grateful we're not Meredith. I guess so true this is a wild episode.

[Nick]

I mean, the fact that, like, Whitney Rose came out was like, yeah, we dabble in an open relationship. And that was like, kind of like the lead dramatic part of the episode.

[Mary]

That conversation felt like a fever dream. I loved it so much.

[Harvey Guillen]

I did not expect that.

[Nick]

I was like, what is going on? And, like, I was, like, decompressing from all the drama leading up to that point that I thought I was just.

[Harvey Guillen]

Kind of like, not on my bingo card. Like, I was not focused on that. My focus was over here. And then all of a sudden, I'm like, oh, they're having, like, oh.

[Mary]

Agreements.

[Natalie Joy]

And I would fuck someone else for sure. I would.

[Harvey Guillen]

Over oysters. And I was like, whoa, hold up. At least have dinner. You know, you can just imagine the.

[Nick]

Producers being like, are you willing to talk about it? They're like, I don't know. They're like, well, listen, like, Meredith is like a giant bully in this episode, and no one's just gonna remember you guys talking about having open relations. Now's the perfect time to slip it, sandwich it in.

[Harvey Guillen]

That was crazy. You guys, can I tell you something? I was in Utah filming a movie when that episode was being filmed. And so I'm also part of this episode. I didn't know how I brought you.

[Nick]

Are you the man across the bar?

[Harvey Guillen]

I was filming, and I've actually had lunch with Bronwyn and.

[Natalie Joy]

Wait.

[Harvey Guillen]

And. Yeah. And Todd.

[Natalie Joy]

Were you the lingerie sexy on his phone?

[Harvey Guillen]

I'm sorry, I was that clip of crazy rich.

[Natalie Joy]

Crazy rich way.

[Nick]

So you really had lunch with Todd and Bronwyn?

[Harvey Guillen]

I did. I did. I was filming a movie there, and I've known Bronwyn before, and I was just like, oh, yeah, I'm gonna be in town. And there was a moment where we're, like, gonna actually maybe cast Broadway in the movie. And, like, she had to leave to do an episode. In the crossover episode, which is this one that we just saw. This came from the boat and she had to fly in. She missed the first one. She couldn't. She didn't leave and got the next flight. So she came later, remember? Yeah. While she didn't go on the first flight the night before, I think it was. Or two nights. That's when we had dinner, and we were like. She was getting ready to film and whatnot. And all of this was happening while I was there. And then not looking at the episode, I'm like, wait a minute. I did not. Because there was stuff that, like, obviously you don't talk about Production and stuff. And. And we're friends and we talk about, like, fashion and stuff like that, but we don't really try to talk about, like, the drama that's happening.

[Chambliss]

Did you.

[Mary]

She was going to go in there with the banana boat.

[Harvey Guillen]

I love Todd and Bronwyn. I think they. They're great. And I had no idea of, like, this storyline. And I. So that's what, for me, I was, like, shocked into this, like, spot of, like, what I think the world of them. I think they're. They're really great. In fact, the other day, I text Todd because he collects the mugs from all over. And I was at a Starbucks in Nova Scotia.

[Natalie Joy]

Nova Scotia.

[Harvey Guillen]

And I text Nova Scotia. I did not. And then I. And then I said, have you. Do you have one of these? I was like, hey, where are you? So I. I'm slowly collecting all these mugs for Todd that I'm probably never gonna.

[Heather]

That's.

[Nick]

I'm jealous that you have. You have Todd on the speed dial. I'm trying to get convince Bro in to bring Todd in on the show and have a little sit down with the both of them, because I feel like I don't know if that's gonna happen. I don't know if it. Bron seemed mildly interested, but I feel like Todd is, like, misrepresented.

[Harvey Guillen]

Todd's very private. Todd's very, like, private. And, like, I feel like he's so funny when you get to know him, like, one on one. Like, in fact, bro was like, you're hanging out with my husband more than I am because I was, like, there for, like, three months filming, and he was so not. And me and my friends, we had dinner with him. And, like, he's really funny. And just like, when you get to know.

[Natalie Joy]

So were you so shocked to find out he was looking at sexy lingerie women on his phone? On my airplane with the brightness all the way up.

[Harvey Guillen]

Here's the thing.

[Nick]

The algorithm got him.

[Harvey Guillen]

You know, I. Algorithm got, like. I always think, like, what people think when I see someone open their Twitter, especially, you know, gay men. Like, I'm like, wow, what are you looking at? And it's like, it's just my Twitter, babe. And I was like, that's your Twitter.

[Mary]

It's just.

[Harvey Guillen]

It looks like a dating app. But even beyond, like, it's like, how did they get that clothes in there? Yeah, exactly. I was like, that's your Twitter. That looks like Onlyfans. That looks like Sniffies. You know, that literally looks like you're looking a Pornhub. Yeah. And so I don't think it's, you know, not justifying anyone's, you know, actions or anything, but, like, sometimes you could be looking over someone's phone and see something that you're like, what are you looking at? And you don't know. You know, maybe it was a Sears catalog. So true.

[Mary]

It's just a horny, horny Sears catalog.

[Natalie Joy]

This is so funny. Wait, guys, this is so funny.

[Harvey Guillen]

You shouldn't judge anyone by the book of their Twitter cover.

[Natalie Joy]

So Nick was trying to buy some, like, lingerie for me, but he was kind of, like, looking at it for a little bit too long, toward the point where I was like, is he checking out these bitches on this site?

[Harvey Guillen]

That's what I'm saying. You don't know that. What? You know.

[Leia]

And he's probably looking at all the letters and numbers being like, wait.

[Nick]

So I'm literally just trying to figure it out. Like, it's all very.

[Heather]

Trying to figure it out.

[Nick]

It's just like, what size is this? The sizing chart? Like, and then it's just.

[Harvey Guillen]

He went to the bathroom and tried to figure it out, and he made the radio go on, and he just tried to figure it out for you.

[Natalie Joy]

And I was like, quick question. Do you see the nipples through this, or is she wearing that nipple cover?

[Mary]

God forbid. He wants to appreciate the art that these models are.

[Nick]

Yeah, exactly. Judge is like some sort of, like, peeping Tom. Yeah.

[Natalie Joy]

Todd was trying to Bronwyn lingerie.

[Nick]

Yeah.

[Leia]

He was on victoriasecret.com of course.

[Mary]

Yeah.

[Heather]

You don't know.

[Natalie Joy]

Okay.

[Mary]

You know, my favorite part of that was Bronwyn being like. And that's fine. I just would prefer picking out the woman he's looking at.

[Harvey Guillen]

I was like, that, to me, is progressive. That's progressive. That's like, you know, that's progressive.

[Leia]

But that was my question that I was confused. Is this kind of saying that, yes, Todd did make out with someone else, or she was like, probably okay with it.

[Mary]

She said he probably did. She just wants to, like, be in control of.

[Heather]

I rewinded it.

[Mary]

It was five times. She wants to, like, have the little.

[Natalie Joy]

Puppet, but she also didn't confirm if he was also farting.

[Harvey Guillen]

You know, again, we don't know what's going on behind closed doors and behind people's arrangements. Like, you know. Yeah. When they look at people at the bar, and it literally is. We saw you from across the bar, and it's like, oh, you're an open relationship. We're in A poly. I was like, oh, great. You're always, you know, recruiting, but like, it's multi level marketing.

[Heather]

It's the draft out.

[Harvey Guillen]

You don't know what scenario you're going to be in. You come across.

[Nick]

Let's. Let's get into the merit of Mark. Mark's airplane debacle. That's a very interesting take, Harvey, and I think it's valid. I do think it's a fair question, it being a TV production and, and airplane freakouts are like a thing on the Internet, you know, where if someone loses their shit, people are quickly quick to point out, pull out a camera. Then you have the element of like, these women are famous, they're celebrities. Celebrities. It would be surprising to think that no one on this flight recognized any of them.

[Mary]

Right, well, so they're all together in.

[Harvey Guillen]

A group and you have production in the back.

[Leia]

They're in first class. Heather was on watch what happens live last night and she said that she was like, the majority of the first class was them and production. And she was like. So I think it was a bit of celebrity that paid into not being recorded.

[Natalie Joy]

Ah, but that's also crazy. That production wasn't like, that's, that's where. That's where.

[Harvey Guillen]

But also the flight attendants don't have, don't own anything to Bravo. Like, they could easily been like, people have gone canceled for less. You know what I mean? They've gone. Like the flight attendants can say, like, I had guess who on my flight at 2A, you know, seat 2A and blah blah. And they were total dicks and blah blah. They could have done that. So if no one was complaining, there was no fire, like some fire marshal, whoever, air marshal, like showing up to arrest you because you're, you know, then where's the proof? Like, that's what my thing is. Like, you can't just call someone something. And there's no.

[Mary]

And also, Todd got got for just looking at something on Twitter.

[Harvey Guillen]

Right.

[Mary]

You know, in economy. So like, are you kidding me?

[Nick]

Yeah, Here, here's the thing. So I think, I think those are valid and I think Meredith has that going for her. And, and Meredith Marks the lawyer is going to lean on that till the day she dies.

[Mary]

The defense is wrong.

[Harvey Guillen]

And also the, the. All the things that like Brittany was saying, like she was like the hair pulling and like I was like, hair. That sounds like, you know, an attack.

[Heather]

I'm a little Team Britney on this one.

[Harvey Guillen]

You think you're Team Britney? I don't know.

[Nick]

Yeah, but here's the Thing though. It doesn't have to be, it doesn't have to be like some one of those like classic freak out, like airplane videos. It's not as if like, you know, Meredith was like, if this is what I did, an air marshal would have been called, I would have been arrested. But like, not necessarily. Like the way it was described is that like Meredith and Lisa were very much like high school girl bullies. This was like girl central, right? And like, like we've, we all know how bullies bully and it like they were sitting right behind her and they could have been incredibly cruel and aggressive and heckling without the screaming part. It could have been just you know, like talking shit about her. You know that like Lisa was laughing and like egging on Meredith and kind of snickering and maybe like it's not like she grabbed the scalp of her head and ripped out her hair, but I think she was just kind of like, like a little harassing, just little flicking and just like being that kind of bully. Maybe if it's, maybe it's even like blowing head or something, you know, long extensions.

[Natalie Joy]

I feel like maybe it got like in between the seat, you know, and like Meredith could see it and she just was like stupid.

[Heather]

That literally happened on the yacht when she was like, don't touch me.

[Nick]

It also makes sense because I think what's so triggering for Meredith is because like it's clear that these women have conversations off screen about like what they're down to talk about and what they're not. And it seems pretty clear over the seasons that Meredith has no respect. Respect for Britney, right? And whatever understandings they have or don't have. Britney bringing up a rumor about Meredith's marriage is obviously incredibly and understandably so triggering for Meredith. And I think the Meredith thought that Britney bring that up was completely like out of pocket, out of line. It crossed the line that Meredith is like fuck this bitch kind of thing. And I think it really just bothered her and embarrassed her because now she has to go home, home and tell her husband, hey, you got accused on this trip of having an affair. Like that is deeply personal. Totally get why that would be triggering for Meredith. But the way she went about handling it on the flight and I guess why there's no videotape is because I don't think it was like, I think it was just kind of an ongoing loud harassment and not like some like actual big performance, Big, huge performance that like someone needed to be like told to like pipe down, you know, it was like for all you Know that the flight attendants are like, I don't know, I guess this is what these housewives do. They're just kind of like.

[Leia]

And Meredith did say at the end that she was like, I thought. Or Britney had her headphones in so she couldn't hear me. So I'm like, you're on a plane. If she's saying awful things behind Britney, Britney can hear it all.

[Heather]

Yeah.

[Mary]

I don't know. It's times like these where I'm like, addison Rae, headphones on. Like, I think you just gotta do what you gotta do.

[Nick]

I don't think Britney's that good of an actress. I think her like, her talking about that night. Like, I just. I see what you're saying, Harvey. I just don't think these. All these women are colluding together.

[Harvey Guillen]

I agree that bullying is not good. Like, bullying is not good. I'm the anti bully bully. I will bully you if you're a bully, you know, But I agree that that's never acceptable. And I can see why the frustration I might have built up to this with Meredith. But again, bullying's not okay. But the setup of that was so, so harsh. And. And also the evidence, it's just like, you know, I wonder if you're right that I wonder because Lisa is egging her on and they're both like the girls in school. Like, yeah, you stupid.

[Heather]

You know, I have a question for you, Harvey.

[Harvey Guillen]

Yes.

[Heather]

Isn't the smoking gun that this actually happened the fact that Lisa's turning on Meredith now?

[Nick]

Exactly.

[Heather]

Lisa will go the distance to hide the evidence, but the second it's too much, she'll throw you under the bus.

[Nick]

Yeah, that's a great point. I was just going to say that. Dustin, the fact that, like, you know, at least is not saying, no, this didn't happen. You guys are colluding. I was there. This didn't happen. Lisa was like, no, that was crazy.

[Natalie Joy]

That was telling John, shoving her face with Wendy's.

[Nick]

And then it was that when she was sitting down with Heather, she was also like, that was crazy. And then surprised when Heather was like, well, wait, you were part of it too, you know?

[Harvey Guillen]

Right? And that wording was suspicious when she's in the car with her husband and she was just like, she was. I would never. I would never do that. I would never. And then later on, it's like, everyone's saying she did.

[Nick]

So even Lisa is confirming that Meredith was, like, acting out of pocket.

[Natalie Joy]

Also, we have Meredith being like. And then we landed and Lisa woke up and I Talked to her about it for 10 more minutes. And then we got off the plane and then we have her talking to Mary and she's like, it was maybe 15 minutes long. So it's like our timeline isn't. So you talked about it for 10 minutes. So you only talked about it for five minutes before you took or during the. However long flight.

[Harvey Guillen]

That's true. You know, the real heroes here are the editors.

[Natalie Joy]

So true.

[Harvey Guillen]

Because those, you know, unsung heroes. Because now I feel a certain way because I think I've been led to believe something because of the previous episodes of Britney. And I gotta tell you, like, even Andy was like, come on, Brit. Like, she goes through, like, security. TSA with the camera phone and goes. And it's like the attention of that. It's like no one stops her and says, you can't do that. We think you have a gun. You know, just going through security and singing Pink Pony Club through the airport with a glass of champagne as they ask her to stop, Ma', am, you can't take that glass with you. Like, those scenarios for attention. There's a certain point where I was like, I wonder if this is in cahoots to make a storyline to make the storyline even bigger. Because I was like, if they did bully her, that's fucked up. And they bullied her. That's really mean. And I'm upset about that. But this is all to draw storyline because she's been dragged before for the last couple of episodes to make her mark harder. Now I'm again, is this because of editing? And I. And I. I want to believe that it's not, but it might be for me.

[Natalie Joy]

I just don't think we could get Mary on board if it wasn't true. Mary's a woman of God. She doesn't, like, play with these, like, little. She's like, I don't have the energy for little girls.

[Nick]

Little girls.

[Harvey Guillen]

She doesn't play with little girls.

[Natalie Joy]

She's like, she.

[Nick]

She would rather hang out.

[Natalie Joy]

And she's like, I don't like Britney. But, like, what happened wasn't okay.

[Elaine Hendricks]

It's.

[Natalie Joy]

It was wrong.

[Harvey Guillen]

Yes.

[Nick]

She usually avoids drama. Yeah. But for her to sit down with Meredith and just be like, listen, like, I'm worried about your soul, you know, Like, I think what the rest of these women saw, including Mary, was a level of high school bowling that they haven't seen since high school. And they saw Meredith really, like, blackout drunk style where it was like, I don't recognize this person. Person be a version of like, What? She probably was in high school. And we've all seen these people, these bullies in high school, like, just do some, like. It's like, they're good at it, right? They know how to do it. The, like, the nagging, the poking, the, like, the very kind of switch.

[Harvey Guillen]

It's an old switch.

[Nick]

Yeah. And they. I think they saw that and they're just like, this is up. I think they. I would. I think they were really a little spooked out by just how nasty Meredith got when she got triggered with Brittany. And it was very covert and it was very, like, in a. Yeah. And I think that's what they saw. And I think they were all, like, triggered. I mean, I think, like, the reactions from Heather and Mary were just not the same. It was like, that was fucked up. Like, that was like, crazy to. You know. It was just. It was different.

[Leia]

To your point, when they were sitting on the yacht and Meredith was like, this pea brain behind me, I was like, I haven't heard pea brain since, like, elementary.

[Harvey Guillen]

That's bully language.

[Mary]

I do think Britney awakes something in Meredith that I don't know if Meredith likes about herself.

[Nick]

Well, yeah, she. She spread a rumor about her marriage.

[Heather]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Harvey Guillen]

I don't know what it is. Something about her trying to ruin her fucking marriage. I don't know. Something about the way she just rubs her the wrong way, you know, because they're just having, like, you know, some lobster. And she's like, I heard in TikTok that your husband's cheating on you. And it's like, what kind of conversation is that over dinner?

[Heather]

And then Brittany says she was trying to help her.

[Harvey Guillen]

I was trying to help you by telling you what I saw on TikTok Ye before you told Whitney, like, it's.

[Leia]

Like you showed Whitney.

[Harvey Guillen]

You show Whitney, like, look at this gang, you know, Just like, you set up this. You know, it's like you make a rain, you know, dance, and then when it rains on you, it's raining on it. You know, it's like, how did this happen? It's like, you started this.

[Natalie Joy]

It was kind of insane that Bravo showed the Tiktoker's, like, face.

[Harvey Guillen]

They must have gotten permission.

[Nick]

But that's what Bravo does. They encourage that shit. It's part of their universe. They.

[Mary]

It's just like, obviously not true is the other part of it, right?

[Harvey Guillen]

And it's like, hearsay. Someone can say that and. Because that's another 20 seconds of fame for them, that person. Because they can be like, I'm Going to do it. I'm going to say Mary Cosby is an alien and then, like, make a video of it and then be like, did you hear about you being an alien? That's a lie.

[Natalie Joy]

You know, it was also just an insane, like, rumor. It was like, yeah, his. This. My friend's Uber driver picked up Seth and his mist. I'm like, who are.

[Harvey Guillen]

Who in Columbus?

[Heather]

Could be anybody.

[Nick]

Or like, maybe he got an Uber with a coworker.

[Natalie Joy]

He did Uber, Uber. Uber pool.

[Nick]

Yeah, he's in Uber pool now.

[Harvey Guillen]

Who's the bully in Uber pool?

[Natalie Joy]

Poor Sethi couldn't afford in Columbus, Ohio.

[Nick]

Another thing that also kind of made me think that this is real is at the very end of the episode where. Where Mary is like, listen, I think you should apologize for yourself, your soul. And Meredith. Meredith was finally like, I'll have to think about.

[Harvey Guillen]

That's a very lawyer. Qu. Like, answer. That's a very lawyer answer.

[Nick]

Yeah. Very lawyer. I'm not going to admit to anything yet, but, you know, I think Meredith is even, like, looking at Mary and, And. And. And realizing that, like, all right, Mary's really. Mary isn't doing a scene. Mary's. Yeah, Mary's telling me that she's thinks this is up. And, like, you could tell Mary is very much trying to give. I mean, Mary is trying to give Meredith grace. Like, hey, listen, we. You know, she really came in with, like, I don't want to attack you. I just want us to get through this. But, like, that was fucking crazy.

[Harvey Guillen]

I want to see Meredith in court. Like, I want her to get a spin off on Bravo. It's like, all's fair in love and war.

[Heather]

All is fair.

[Nick]

Well, when she was like, I can't speak to what you think or don't.

[Harvey Guillen]

Think or I'm going to think about it. But she's also the dj. The DJ that pre games everyone at the courtroom and gets them ready for divorce court.

[Natalie Joy]

And then she's like, stand for the judge, Dan. She was on a roll being mean girl bully by throw the unicorn in.

[Heather]

Oh, my God.

[Mary]

Okay, that was Bronwyn's idea.

[Heather]

No, but the uni needs to swim. You got self tanner.

[Harvey Guillen]

Why did you bring that unicorn? When you said this trip, I'm not going to talk about him at all.

[Heather]

Exactly.

[Harvey Guillen]

This trip, I'm not going to talk about him. If I do, you can throw water at me.

[Mary]

Well, she's setting herself up.

[Harvey Guillen]

No.

[Nick]

Yeah, she definitely deserved it.

[Harvey Guillen]

No, I'm not saying she deserved it. I'm saying that like, no. Yeah, the unicorn was a little much. I was like, whoa, the unicorn. Why did you bring that? Because that's a. That's comfortable. Like, guys, look what I brought. You are loved, baby. I am not being forced to record this, baby. I love you, baby.

[Nick]

Thank God production got out of the sea. Can you imagine if it washed ashore? It washed ashore and some kid found it, and all of a sudden it hears literally.

[Harvey Guillen]

Yeah. Like, I was like, is he reading this? Like, what do you want me to do? Just. Okay, fine. You are love, baby.

[Heather]

I feel bad for Brittany. That was awful. I feel like we. This literally reminded me of season three when Jen, Sean, Heather threw Angie K. Steels off board. And I'm like, we called them bullies, but Meredith and Bronwyn did it with the unicorn to Brittany. And now we're like, eh, it's fine. It's a unicorn. But I'm like, it's the same concept.

[Mary]

Here is my. Here is my rebuttal to that one. In the. In the aspect of Jen Shaw and comparing her production can film Jen Shaw getting arrested by the FBI and pick up cameras for that, but you can't pick up cameras to see Meredith crashing out on.

[Nick]

Those cameras that you're talking about them picking up are underneath the plane. So they definitely could have.

[Heather]

There you go.

[Mary]

IPhone.

[Nick]

Of course they could have brought iPhone.

[Mary]

You can shoot on 4K on an iPhone now. A Daze 2. Okay. Not as bad as what Jen Shaw did.

[Heather]

She threw Angie's heels. Angie had to walk barefoot back to the sprinter van.

[Mary]

I know. And Britney still had both of her shoes, and she got the unicorn back. And they did it in giant inflatable suits, so it was humorous.

[Heather]

But you know when it hurts someone when they don't say anything and they walk away? Like, Rennie just walked away because it was like, what is she gonna say? She was hurt.

[Harvey Guillen]

Yeah, well, okay. I did feel that was bad. Yes, I agree.

[Heather]

That was.

[Harvey Guillen]

That was bad.

[Mary]

Like, she was being mean. And I didn't.

[Harvey Guillen]

Like, that shot of her walking made me feel for. Like, I was like, oh, that sucks.

[Heather]

Yeah, exactly.

[Harvey Guillen]

But she didn't miss the unicorn until they brought it to her. And they're like, we found this. Like, why is it wet? She forgot about it. She totally forgot that she didn't have it with her when they unloaded the boat.

[Nick]

But the point is. The point is it hurt her, because I think Britney. Britney wants to be friends with these women, and she's friends with some of them. And like, we. We had Britney on the show. We met her. She was lovely.

[Mary]

Love her.

[Nick]

She. She leans into kind of a little bit of a. I guess like a ditzy Persona. She's certainly not. I mean, but like, she might not be your cup of tea, but I thought she lovely woman and really nice. And I can see why, like other women might not want to with her. I don't know. But like, they clearly, like Meredith specifically just doesn't respect Britney. You know, I think they're just whatever about how Britney does her stuff, singing videos, whatever. They find her to be cringe. And I think they just. It just like annoys the.

[Harvey Guillen]

They don't mesh. They just don't mesh together, which is fine. You know, people don't mesh all the time. I know I've worked with actors that like, you know, you don't mesh and you're like, we're just going to work and do, you know. And that's fine, you know, because you don't take your work, you know, home. Yeah, but your work is home.

[Nick]

Exactly.

[Harvey Guillen]

And you have to film it and you have to be at home in your house talking to your daughter about how you have not been there for them. You know what I mean? That's taking your work home and we get to see that. And then unfortunately, it does paint her in a certain way, which I'm sure she's lovely and wonderful, but the way that the seasons have been and edited. They do paint her in a certain way because of the choices that she's made to like, even if she does cringe video, you know, for sure.

[Nick]

I mean, she definitely makes some choices. But yeah, I mean, it's. Yeah. Them not like them not telling her that they threw it over and waiting for her to.

[Harvey Guillen]

Yeah.

[Nick]

You know, like that you can tell, like, and then you just feel stupid. You know, it's just like that's how Britney felt.

[Harvey Guillen]

I mean, yeah, they do like, do pile on her at times. But it's also like the. That you tune in to watch that and you're like, oh, this is bad. But it's also like, why did she say that about the husband? Why did she say that he's cheating? Why did she bring that up? Because it makes for this conversation to go to the next level.

[Heather]

And.

[Harvey Guillen]

And this is why we're talking about it, because it's cool.

[Nick]

Yeah.

[Mary]

She also did say Meredith had seizures.

[Harvey Guillen]

Oh, right. Yeah.

[Natalie Joy]

That was crazy.

[Mary]

That was crazy. So she. It's not like Britney's like a lamb.

[Nick]

Harvey, you. You deal with production a lot and you're, I imagine, many of the. The camera people you're working with are all sag. While I think a lot of reality TV is not SAG and not unionized, I still believe that, like, audio and video product, like the. The. The cameraman are. So I suppose a producer could have got their iPhone out. But, like, if you're asking, like, why, like, some. Like, some of the people are just off the clock. They're flying.

[Harvey Guillen]

That's true. They're flying. But if this happened supposedly for four or five hours, how long. That flight was a pretty long flight.

[Nick]

It.

[Harvey Guillen]

Nobody thought to pick up at any moment. I mean, for God's sake, why didn't, you know, she do it herself? She did it when they were in the Sprinter and she was recording. You are recording us.

[Mary]

You are vile.

[Harvey Guillen]

You can. You are vile. And so if you didn't. If you did it back then, but you didn't do it here, where it would justify your case. That's a little concerning to me because now it's like, wait, you did it before when it was nothing to do with Harvey.

[Natalie Joy]

I feel like Brittany is the kind who turns her phone off and puts it in her purse when she's flying. Like, she's that kind who's like, I just.

[Elaine Hendricks]

I'm just.

[Natalie Joy]

I'm on the plane. I just turn it off. She's, like, not putting it on Airplane Mode and buying WI Fi.

[Harvey Guillen]

She's following those rules.

[Natalie Joy]

I think she.

[Mary]

Well, right after, she takes her phone into the cockpit to go visit the.

[Harvey Guillen]

Pilot and she leaves it. She leaves. She leaves the. What do you call it? Lounge with a glass of champagne and go, ma'.

[Nick]

Am.

[Harvey Guillen]

They chase her down the street. She goes through security and singing Pink Pony. You think she follows the rules when she gets.

[Natalie Joy]

I think she's scared that the plane will crash. If her plane is an airplane.

[Harvey Guillen]

You think that she sits down, like, now it's time to be a good person, and I'm going to turn this off as opposed to like, ma', am, you can't bring guns on the plane.

[Nick]

I do think that she would have been scared of Meredith to record her.

[Heather]

Yeah, that's for sure.

[Natalie Joy]

That's true.

[Mary]

She has learned her lesson with the women.

[Harvey Guillen]

But she's in the front, though, so she could have just. Just play it. Like, play, you know, record and put the phone down or something. Something where it would have been like, this is great to prove my case, you know?

[Leia]

Or an audio recording.

[Harvey Guillen]

Yeah, audio recording. Something.

[Mary]

Also, here's one other thing about this story that seems fishy. They were saying that Meredith was, like, shaking Britney's chair. But then when they put up the seating charts of the chairs, Lisa was sitting behind Britney and not Meredith.

[Heather]

Wait, guys, I just had an epiphany. Doesn't every airplane have a black. Black box? Someone subpoenaed airplane.

[Nick]

Isn't that just for the cockpit? I don't know if it, like, they record everyone.

[Natalie Joy]

Everyone's being recorded.

[Mary]

What if yellow jackets happened to them in that moment?

[Harvey Guillen]

Yeah.

[Mary]

Like, what if they crashed?

[Leia]

Brittany would be the first to be gone.

[Harvey Guillen]

Yeah.

[Nick]

Yeah. They would eat Britney.

[Natalie Joy]

Yeah.

[Leia]

Like, there. There's no way. With her on an island.

[Harvey Guillen]

I don't even think it would eat Britney. She would do something where she was taking a self and then she falls off the edge of, like.

[Heather]

Or something.

[Mary]

She is the first to die in my Salt Lake horror movie that I made. Yes.

[Nick]

I'm just saying. But if they didn't have food, Meredith.

[Leia]

And Bronwyn would do to her what they did to the unicorn.

[Harvey Guillen]

Yeah. Yeah, I see that. I watch that movie.

[Nick]

Before we let you go, Harvey, what are your thoughts on OC While we have you?

[Harvey Guillen]

Oh, my gosh. I feel like it's got. I mean, they're the og, So I have, like, mad respect for them, you know, but, like, the idea that, like, man, it's really escalating to the point where, like, I feel. You know who I'm talking about.

[Nick]

Yes.

[Harvey Guillen]

You don't want. I don't want it. Like, I feel like if I say anything, that she'll kill me, but I feel like it's just sometimes you. You're setting things up to chest to the. To the degree that you can't come back from.

[Natalie Joy]

Yeah.

[Harvey Guillen]

Like, there's certain things that you do that you're like, you can't come back from this. Like, there's no way you can come back from this. And every time I say that, we go there and we come back for more. We keep going and we keep building on it. And every time I say there's no way. You can never come back from an accusation like that. And I just feel like they're really kind of giving Salt Lake a run for their money. They're the og so there was a moment where it was, like, we tune in because there's entertaining and we honor, you know, our elders and, like. Like, it's just. Well, like, I'm saying, like, in the franchise, like, you know, we honor and respect that, but it just got. It's getting to the point where, like, I feel like it's a race and they're just trying to do as much to get ahead of that. And it's like, you don't need to just be you, just be you. And it'll. It'll unsolve by itself and unravel, and we'll be disgusting.

[Natalie Joy]

What was your real time reaction to Andy giving Tamara an example of her pulling things from the past to hurt people? And her being like, when have I done that? And that's. That's why you, two years ago, called me and, like, gave him two examples immediately. And he was like, well, that's exactly what I'm talking about.

[Harvey Guillen]

Andy doing that is actually kind of, like, really brave because this is the women who created this, like, franchise. Empty. For you to say, remember two years ago when you did this? But you didn't bring it up until now. It's kind of its own way, using it as, like, you know, ammunition and also as a tool. And so it's very smart. It's very like a producer. Like, that's like a producer brain that you would do that. But good for him. Good for him for bringing it up and addressing it and kind of saying what we're all thinking. We don't have the power to say that. And we say it to the face. We're a bully. But if you're the boss and you say, hey, this is your evaluation for this quarter, and I think you're a real witch.

[Natalie Joy]

You did not make employees.

[Harvey Guillen]

Hey, you came short on being entertaining, but you accept. Succeeded and excelled at being a witch. Give or take a letter, you know, and it's just like, that's. That's the evaluation that your boss would give you. And what would you say with that? Thank you for this. I will take that in consideration and I'll become better next quarter.

[Mary]

Also, this just in. Breaking news. Speaking of oc, Katie, Janela did post on her Instagram story that if she would have been on the plane with Meredith, she would have recorded.

[Nick]

God bless you, Katie.

[Harvey Guillen]

Thanks, Katie.

[Leia]

Love her.

[Nick]

Well, Harvey, it's always fun to catch up with you, man. Appreciate you coming. It's tons of fun.

[Harvey Guillen]

Thanks for having me. Always fun.

[Nick]

What we promoting anything right now? We. What. What can we plug for you?

[Harvey Guillen]

Yeah, we just have a new season, Fiona and Cake, which is really fun from Adventure Time. And what else am I doing? Oh, a film. Couple films that I should plug, which is. Forget the name of my own film. Sorry, too busy.

[Leia]

Would you like me to pull up your IMDb?

[Harvey Guillen]

Damned if you.

[Heather]

You do.

[Harvey Guillen]

ISA is doing the circuit right now, so you watch it. I get to play a demon in that.

[Natalie Joy]

Was that easy for you, playing a demon?

[Harvey Guillen]

What do you mean?

[Natalie Joy]

Oh, you had no hair and makeup.

[Harvey Guillen]

I should have recorded you saying that. I should have recorded you saying that. And I was sure everyone would've bully you.

[Natalie Joy]

You had no wardrobe for that. It was just come as you are.

[Harvey Guillen]

Yeah, I brought my own horns. I wear my horns. Finally I can show my own horns. Yeah. Down to you do and pickle head. So watch those. They're fun.

[Natalie Joy]

Oh my God. Slay my horns.

[Harvey Guillen]

Just come out of this girl. Yeah, you're like, oh my God. Oh, the clock stick.

[Leia]

Guys, you gotta go and that'll do.

[Natalie Joy]

It for this episode.

[Nick]

Harvey, you're the absolute best. Thank you to all our guests including Harvey and Elaine Hendrick. That will wrap up today's episode. Don't forget we have a jam packed week next week. Our merch is finally available. Go to our link in bio support the show supplies are unlimited, so get it while it's lasting and get yourself some comfy cozy, classic Vile files merch. Anything else?

[Natalie Joy]

That's it.

[Nick]

See you tomorrow.

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