E1039 - Leanne Morgan, Southern Charm Premiere w Charley Manley, Secret Lives of Mormon Wives & RHOC Reunion

Summary

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The Viall Files – Episode 1039: "Leanne Morgan, Southern Charm Premiere w/ Charley Manley, Secret Lives of Mormon Wives & RHOC Reunion"

Release date: November 25, 2025
Host: Nick Viall
Co-hosts/Panel: Natalie Joy, Sierra, Justin, Macy, Connor
Special Guests: Leanne Morgan, Charlie Manley

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EPISODE OVERVIEW

This jam-packed Reality Recap edition of The Viall Files celebrates Thanksgiving and delves into relationship realities, Bravo drama, and standup comedy wisdom. Nick, Natalie, Sierra, Justin, and the crew discuss their holiday plans, swap family traditions, and then launch into heavy reality TV recaps, including the messy Real Housewives of OC reunion, Southern Charm’s new season (with new cast member Charlie Manley), and the latest from Secret Lives of Mormon Wives. The episode is rounded out with a candid and hilarious interview with comedian Leanne Morgan, fresh off her Netflix special. Expect lots of laughter, candid takes, wisdom about families and relationships, and plenty of behind-the-scenes dirt.

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HOLIDAY WARM-UP & PERSONAL TRADITIONS

[03:21–15:21]

• The group shares Thanksgiving plans, family traditions, and the joys and tribulations of introducing young kids to family gatherings.
• Natalie reveals she is spending her first Thanksgiving as an aunt, supporting her sister postpartum:
  Natalie: "I am helping in the capacity that I am wanted and needed. I feel like a lot of what I can do is just stay out of the way and grab a bottle when needed." [11:49]
• Sierra discusses making holidays magical for her toddler River:
  Sierra: "I'm like, I have the one thing that makes Christmas magical... No. A baby." [11:05]

Memorable Moment

• The gang reminisces about first impressions on meeting in-laws, food responsibilities, and the eternal trauma of the "Thanksgiving Meatballs Debacle":
  Sierra: "There was a problem with meatballs, and Nick's, like, still traumatized." [14:48]
  Nick: "Like, shaking in a corner." [14:50]

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HOLIDAY MOVIES, NOSTALGIA, & COZY MOMENTS

[15:21–21:14]

• The team gushes about which Christmas movies they pair with Starbucks holiday drinks and personal traditions.
• Justin: "A good movie during holiday season is a great family break. It’s a family lubricant." [15:44]
• Favorite films discussed: Home Alone, The Grinch, Christmas Vacation, Serendipity, Frosty the Snowman, etc.
• Natalie jokes about memorizing every line of The Grinch as a kid:
  Natalie: "My roommates didn't believe me... then we turned it on and I was like, 'inside a snowflake, like the one on your sleeve...'" [16:38]

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REALITY TV & POP CULTURE HEADLINES

[21:14–26:00]

Jen Shah News & Bravo Universe

• Early release from prison sparks speculation about whether she'll return to Bravo; the crew doubts it but discusses fan reactions and Monica's Instagram commentary.
• Natalie highlights Jen’s ongoing restitution and behavior credits:
  "She’s begun paying restitution, and she has been doing her time... I mean, we'll see. I'm curious what will happen." [23:55]

Dancing with the Stars Finale & Whitney

• Whitney Levitt's elimination stirs up a debate over ambition and public perceptions: Julianne Hough's defense: "Being ambitious is not a crime. It's a superpower." [24:29]
• Panel wonders if Whitney will move to Broadway:
  Natalie: "If Whitney ends up in Chicago, I am flying out there. I am seated." [25:42]

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DEEP DIVE: THE SECRET LIVES OF MORMON WIVES – FINALE RECAP

[31:40–45:00]

• The crew analyzes the season's close, focusing on Taylor and Dakota's toxic split, family drama, crossing boundaries with family friends, and the domino effect of trust issues.
• "You can ignore a nude." [Nick, 37:38]
• They debate whether Dakota was seduced or complicit, but all agree Taylor is justified in shutting things down for good.
• Whitney's role as peacemaker is recognized:
  Macy: "She went to Macy, who she knew would be able to get the girls together... She convinced her." [41:21]
• The debate around Demi’s claims of assault are handled empathetically, but the group wrestles with the tension between supporting victims and needing truth:
  Justin: "The biggest, horrible challenge—and I think the biggest uncomfortable thing about this whole thing—is that when the women confront Demi and kind of poke holes in her story, she resorts back to the narrative: there’s no perfect victim, which is true… But it’s really hard to question anything..." [43:13]

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SOUTHERN CHARM SEASON PREMIERE – RAPID RECAP & CHARLIE MANLEY INTERVIEW

[45:01–67:58]

Rapid Recap Highlights

• New member Molly feeds her pet snake a mouse (polarizing opinion: cool or gross).
• The tangled love triangle between Sally, Vanita, and Craig is shaping the main drama.
• Craig’s breakup with Paige and subsequent single era is hyped, with hints that single Craig is Bravo catnip.

Interview: CHARLIE MANLEY (newest Southern Charm cast member)

[58:35–67:58]

• Charlie describes how she entered Charleston’s social scene and her fast friendship with Sally.
• On navigating friend group drama:
  Charlie: "Introducing other people to have an opinion on our fights is definitely new…" [60:46]
• On Craig:
  Charlie: “We have a lot in common… I wanted to make that opinion for myself.” [62:34]
• Addressing the Paige/Craig drama and expectations the cast had of Craig “clearing” Paige:
  Charlie: “Once I was broken up with my ex, like, I'm done. Like, I… don't want anything to do with you anymore. So, like, I understand where he was coming from.” [63:57]
• Teasers for the season:
  Charlie: “Charleston’s a very incestual place. Like, everyone’s dating everybody… for the most part, the entire cast is single." [64:47]
• On Shep:
  Charlie: “I love Shep before 2 am. Love him.” [66:19]

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REAL HOUSEWIVES OF ORANGE COUNTY (RHOC) REUNION, PART 3

[68:14–83:46]

Panel Discussion & Notable Quotes

• The group struggles to decipher who is telling the truth regarding alleged Instagram hate-content “likes” and the infamous blogger leaks.
• Nick: “Do I think Tamra Judge is AI-making up posts to do things to Gretchen? I don’t think that Tamra has the time or the energy.” [68:44]
• Natalie: "The accusations that Tamra is making about Gretchen are super serious… But the problem is, whether or not that's true, you're not bringing this up because you care. You're bringing this up because you want to go tit for tat." [74:15]
• Rapid Recap: Sierra summarizes the confusing tangle of posts, alliances, and blogger rumors – with Andy growing increasingly frustrated.
• Consensus: The origin of the leaks is murky; the call may be “coming from inside the house,” but there are dozens of staffers, fans, and crew with knowledge. Ultimately, the reunion ends with less darkness than expected and a sense of anticipation for next season.

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INTERVIEW: LEANNE MORGAN (Comedian)

[84:02–130:59]

Leanne’s Rise and Realness

• Leanne reflects on going from stay-at-home-mom to Netflix comedy star and sitcom lead (with guidance from Jerry Seinfeld!).
• On juggling fame and family:
  Leanne: “I still go home and start putting in a load of wash. I'm a grandmother, so I'm, you know, taking care.” [85:14]
• Her devotion to her grandkids, finding humor in family, and staying rooted in the South.
• On her relationship with her husband, Chuck:
  Leanne: “If Chuck Morgan can smell something cooking in the oven, if I pour bleach in a bathroom... that's how men show love.” [97:13]
• The panel cackles over Leanne’s Thanksgiving, her family’s meat-processing background, the “meatball gate” from Nick’s introduction to Sierra’s family, and why she hates fake Southern accents on TV.
• On mentorship from Jerry Seinfeld:
  Leanne: “You’re the star. So you go in that every week and say, I wouldn't say that. I would say this... this is really what we'd say.” [115:39]
• Her thoughts on women in comedy and carving her own lane:
  Leanne: “I think it's just I was speaking to a bunch of people that were kind of ignored out in the middle of the United States. Just normal, everyday people.” [118:00]
• The importance of living for new material:
  Leanne: “Some of my best material is going and watching, going to a yoga class or going—watching my baby cheer where she wore that whore outfit…” [118:37]
• On controversial strip clubs, traveling, and her roots in the South—always delivered with a wink and kindness.
• Closing advice: Everyone just wants love, food, and a good laugh.

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MEMORABLE QUOTES & MOMENTS (with Timestamps)

• "There was a problem with meatballs, and Nick's, like, still traumatized." — Sierra, [14:48]
• "My goal with [the Jesse/Jordan] episode was how much of Jesse's mistake was he going to weaponize against her rather than focus on his actions?" — Justin, [07:12]
• "If Whitney ends up in Chicago, I am flying out there. I am seated." — Natalie, [25:42]
• "You can ignore a nude." — Nick, [37:38]
• "Charleston’s a very incestual place. Like, everyone's dating everybody... for the most part, the entire cast is single." — Charlie Manley, [64:47]
• "It's gotten weird. Like, why has it gotten so dark? Why isn't it just like us bickering about our lives?" — Natalie on RHOC, [73:48]
• "If Chuck Morgan can smell something cooking ... that's how men show love." — Leanne Morgan, [97:13]
• "You’re the star. So you go in that every week and say, I wouldn't say that. I would say this..." — Jerry Seinfeld’s advice to Leanne, [115:39]
• "I think it's just I was speaking to a bunch of people that were kind of ignored out in the middle of the United States. Just normal, everyday people." — Leanne Morgan, [118:00]

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TIMESTAMPS FOR KEY SEGMENTS

| Segment | Start Time | |------------------------------------------------|------------| | Holiday Chit-chat & Meatballs Saga | 03:21 | | Holiday Movies & Cozy Nostalgia | 15:21 | | Jen Shah/Bravo/Dancing with the Stars Updates | 21:14 | | Secret Lives of Mormon Wives Recap | 31:40 | | Southern Charm Premiere & Charlie Interview | 45:01/58:35| | RHOC Reunion, part 3 and Blogger Drama | 68:14 | | Leanne Morgan Interview | 84:02 |

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CONCLUSION

This Reality Recap delivered warm laughs, sharp relationship insight, and tons of reality TV tea. From the comfort of childhood traditions to the chaos of Bravo’s biggest shows, The Viall Files crew—plus dazzling guests like Leanne Morgan—dished on what it means to find humor and community in every corner of life, whether it's at Thanksgiving dinner or on the Southern Charm set. For anyone needing laughs, wisdom, or an honest take on family, pop culture, or imaginary meatball trauma, this episode will hit the spot.

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Transcript

[Nick]

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[Natalie]

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[Sierra]

Okay, only 10 more presents to wrap.

[Nick]

You're almost at the finish line, but first.

[Justin]

Ah, there, the last one.

[Nick]

Enjoy a Coca Cola for a pause that refreshes.

[Justin]

It's that time of year. From family gatherings around a warm fireplace to catching up over your favorite peppermint mocha together is the best place to be. This episode is sponsored by Starbucks.

[Sierra]

I have to say, every time I drink a peppermint mocha around the holidays, it always reminds me of when my family after Thanksgiving, the Friday after Thanksgiving, we always go downtown Savannah. We walk the little Riverside Market. There's always a Starbucks there. We like go wait in line. Yeah, you get your hot peppermint mocha. It's cold, you're cozy, you're with family. It's fun. It's one of my favorite traditions.

[Justin]

Delicioso. It tastes like Christmas.

[Sierra]

It does. It's the most nostalgic feeling ever to like it. Be chilly outside. You have a hot Starbucks holiday drink and you're like with your family, there's nothing better.

[Justin]

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[Nick]

You'Re crazy.

[Justin]

What's going on, everybody? Welcome back to another jam packed episode of the VI Files Reality Recap edition. I am your host, Nick, joined by my patriotic.

[Sierra]

What the fuck? God bless.

[Natalie]

Happy Thanksgiving.

[Justin]

My grateful. My grateful wife, my grateful, supportive, compelling, patriotic. She is my holidays.

[Nick]

She is grateful or you are grateful for her?

[Sierra]

No, I'm just, I'm grateful, I guess.

[Nick]

Like you're just grateful that I have.

[Justin]

I don't know why patriotic came to mind, but America. Anyways, we have a deliciously jam packed episode for you lined up today. Thanksgiving is upon us. It is Thanksgiving week. I hope everyone is joyful and with the people they want to be with, whoever those people are. And I hope that your week is about to get comfortable, relaxing. And if you want to be alone this Thanksgiving, I hope it's everything you hoped it would be. Well, we have a great episode lined up for you. The week's already getting started, as you guys know. Like, it's a, it's a different week. So we had our Ass Nick episode yesterday. We have our great reality recap episode with some amazing guests. We have Leanne Morgan with us today.

[Sierra]

Oh my gosh. And she is so funny. She. I've been begging to have her on for years, it feels like. And we finally got her and she's everything I ever dreamed of.

[Justin]

It's a really fun interview. You're absolutely love it. We also have Charlie Manley.

[Sierra]

So nice, so sweet.

[Justin]

She's the new member of Southern Charm, which premiered last week. We'll get into a little bit of episode one later this episode. Also this week we have part two of going deeper with Jesse Draper. It's a cool name.

[Natalie]

I'd change it to, I mean, Don Draper. Jesse Draper. Only icons here.

[Justin]

Jordan joins the show. Jordan Nadikara. He joins the episode. He sits down the episode. You know, if you haven't listened to part one, you need to. Part one ended with Jesse and Natalie talking about some of Jesse's difficult experiences with Jordan in her Marriage. And part two kicks off with me and Jordan, and then it's the four of us, Jesse, Natalie, myself and Jordan get together and kind of try to see if there's a future for those two. My goal going into this episode, obviously Jesse said a lot of. I mean, shocking.

[Sierra]

Yeah. Very heartbreaking to hear that, you know, he did things around their children.

[Connor]

He.

[Sierra]

The detail she went into, the things that would make him angry, the control that he had.

[Justin]

Yeah, I mean, obviously this. This conversation includes, you know, storyline from part three. Obviously, Jesse as she owned up to the fact that she, you know, had an emotional affair. Well, she also, I guess, physical. She kissed Marcion. But obviously there's a deeper story here. And I think, you know, we're not justifying anything that Jesse said, but I think there's a. You know, I think there's a lot of people who listen to the show. I know, especially people who call in the. Ask Nick there. You can truly feel stuck in a relationship, you know, especially when it's marriage and there's kids involved. You can feel very trapped when your partner doesn't do their part, doesn't contribute or is emotionally aggressive, verbally aggressive. And in those situations, it's very dark. And I really empathize with those people.

[Natalie]

I mean, it's interesting because in the. In the episode, Jesse got very emotional talking about the support from, like, Macy and Mikayla, but she didn't really cry when she was talking about Jordyn.

[Sierra]

I do ask her about why she got emotional talking about the girls and not talking about Jordan. And she does give a set answer.

[Nick]

I was gonna ask from the Jordan interview, do you feel like Jordan took accountability at all for his part of all of this?

[Justin]

You guys are gonna have to listen to part two, but I think that was my goal.

[Connor]

Right.

[Justin]

My goal with this episode was how much of Jesse's mistake was he going to focus on and weaponize against her rather than focus on his actions? And if he really, you know, when we heard Jesse's version of it, I mean, it was hard for me to listen to. To say I was shocked, I guess, is a bit disingenuous, because I do know there's a lot of people out there, you know, particularly men in these relationships, who. The way they choose to speak to their partners, I think is disgusting, but sadly, not all too uncommon. My hope is that Jordan would come in and really own his actions, really be disgusted with how he's treated his wife in the past. Jesse, obviously, in part one, talked about the therapy that her and Jordan have been a part of and talked about how there have been improvements. So my hope going is to see is, is this a guy who's really understand the pain he's caused his family and particularly his wife through the therapy he's done, or is he going to use therapy as kind of like a scapegoat or an excuse in therapy? Everything's fine now, but also, my wife cheated. So that's kind of the big question you'll have to decide for yourself. But, like, yeah, I mean, listen, on the recent Ask Nick episode that has yet to be released yet, like, again, not justifying people stepping out or leaving their marriages. But, you know, right now I'm very much in my like, dad, father, like era. Right now. I'm very much, like, protective of that lifestyle. I, you know, I don't want to force any lifestyle on anyone. But for the people who ask me if they. If they want to know how it's been as a husband and father, I love it. Right. I had a woman call in the other day who asked if she was blowing up her quote, unquote, perfect life. You'll have to listen to the episode. But she was basically debating whether she should leave her husband. They have three children together. And my initial response was like, oh, my God, you got to try to make this work. As she told her story, she told the story about how her husband on her first and third child, went on a surfing trip for a month, abandoning her, like, right after she had her firstborn. You know, she gave several other examples how this marriage has been very difficult to. You know, she's been trying and doing whatever she can, but sometimes you're in a relationship where your partner either checks out or treats you a certain way. And in those cases, it is very challenging. And I really empathize with those people. So you'll have to decide for yourself whether Jordan has learned or whether he really sees his actions as something that I think we saw and decide for yourselves.

[Natalie]

I certainly have my take on it, but I'm gonna save it until everyone.

[Nick]

Else gets to hear.

[Justin]

We'll break it all down. Week's episode of Reality Recap. But be sure to check it out to Doozy.

[Natalie]

What are you guys doing for Thanksgiving?

[Sierra]

We are going to go see my family. We spend Thanksgiving with my side of the family and Christmas with Nick's side of the family. My family randomly decided to rent, like, a lake house in the middle of Georgia.

[Natalie]

O.

[Justin]

Even though we have one.

[Sierra]

Well, it's warmer, hard to get to, but it's because Both my grandparents died recently, and so we're doing, like, a little. That's where they're from. So we're doing, like, a little memorial, and, like, all of their cousins and friends that are all still living are gonna come and. But I've been really, like, ramping river up for it. I'm, like, telling her all the people she's gonna see and, like, what we're gonna do, and she's been, like, getting so excited, she doesn't even know who half the people are. But I'm like, you're gonna see your Aunt Deborah. And she's like. And I'm like, and you're gonna see your cousin Cole. And she's like. So we're trying to get her excited.

[Justin]

Yeah. Last holiday season, she was, like, not even one yet. Everything was just kind of like, what of.

[Sierra]

Yeah, she wasn't walking or.

[Justin]

I feel like this season she really can appreciate and get to know some of her family members and cousins and things like that.

[Natalie]

And it's really fun because you get to start, like, seeing the holidays kind of, like, through her eyes now, too.

[Sierra]

I know. And I invited my mom and sister to spend Christmas with us. And I'm like, I have the one thing that makes Christmas magical. And my mom's like, what?

[Macy]

Snow?

[Sierra]

And I'm like, no. A baby.

[Nick]

I was going to ask, does she have any cousins near her age?

[Justin]

Yeah, her cousin Cole. But they have a son that's a few months younger than River.

[Nick]

Oh, that's gonna be so cute when they get together.

[Sierra]

I know. And then all of the other cousins are, like, 11 and older, but they're. They're, like, the best babysitters, you know?

[Natalie]

Yeah.

[Sierra]

Like, yeah, they're good. Go play with her, and you guys.

[Nick]

Get a little break.

[Sierra]

I know. It's gonna be so fun. What are y' all doing?

[Natalie]

I am at my sister's house right now. She just had a baby, so. Yeah, I am an auntie.

[Sierra]

Are you helping?

[Natalie]

I am. I. I am helping in the capacity that I am wanted and needed.

[Leanne Morgan]

You know what I mean?

[Natalie]

I feel like a lot of what I can do is just stay out of the way and grab a bottle when needed. Yeah. Her husband is amazing and doing everything, and my mom's also. She really just wants my mom's help, which is fair enough. When you have a baby, I don't know why you would want me for anything.

[Nick]

So.

[Natalie]

But, yeah, I'm here. She's very, very cute.

[Sierra]

It's a little girl.

[Natalie]

A little girl? Yeah. Her name's Amelia. Amelia.

[Leanne Morgan]

Amelia Rose.

[Sierra]

Have you held her?

[Natalie]

Yes, I have.

[Leanne Morgan]

I held her.

[Sierra]

She.

[Natalie]

We watched a little TV show together while my sister was taking a shower.

[Justin]

Justin want to know if there's a Thanksgiving flavored baby food. What is that? Is it. Is this labeled Thanksgiving?

[Sierra]

No, it's, like, turkey, and it's, like, pureed. Like, turkey and gravy or like, it's disgusting.

[Nick]

I would never forget chicken and crystalite.

[Justin]

Yeah, we really skipped over baby food. No, we did the purees for, like, a minute. For, like, a week.

[Sierra]

No, for, like, two months.

[Justin]

No.

[Natalie]

Sierra, what are you doing for Thanksgiving?

[Nick]

It's my first Thanksgiving as a fiance, so we're spending our first Thanksgiving, like, with just us. My grandma's gonna come down, but we're gonna try to start our own little traditions fian for the future. So I'm actually really excited.

[Sierra]

Are y' all gonna cook?

[Nick]

Yeah, we're gonna cook at home. But, like, we're gonna try to figure out things because he makes crab cakes every year when we go to our friendsgiving, and we usually have, like, obviously traditional Thanksgiving food, but I think we're gonna mix it up this year.

[Justin]

Wow. Great job on that.

[Nick]

Oh, he. He makes amazing crab cake. There's big jumbo lump frog cakes.

[Leanne Morgan]

Oh, yeah.

[Justin]

I won't be making meatballs. I'm still being harassed and bullied by her family.

[Nick]

It was one time.

[Sierra]

Literally. It was one time. I think, honestly, they've all forgotten. Buttnik, like, when we're texting your sister, literally, she texted yesterday, being like, here's the menu for Thanksgiving. We need, like, more vegetables, a salad, and, like, someone to do, like, a roll or something. And I texted back, being like, I can do a mean green bean casserole. And my sister texted back and said, is anyone doing meatballs? And I responded to that with sore subject. And then I called her, and she's like, what do you mean, sore subject? Like, what's wrong? And I'm like, no. Remember when Nick.

[Justin]

Was she being serious?

[Nick]

She was being, like, genuine, like, is.

[Sierra]

Anyone gonna make meatballs?

[Charlie Manley]

And I'm like, remember when Nick.

[Sierra]

And she's like, oh, my God. I've completely forgot about that.

[Justin]

I'm like, oh, does she really want someone to make meatballs?

[Sierra]

I guess so.

[Justin]

That's a lie.

[Natalie]

It is one of those things of, like, when you first meet someone's parents, and you're like, you think about every single thing for the rest of your life, and they, like, completely forget completely.

[Sierra]

Especially, like, my family's the biggest just tease and, like, we just are sarcastic and, like, bullies. And so. Yeah. The fact that my sister's like. Everyone's like, meatballs.

[Leanne Morgan]

Huh?

[Sierra]

There was a problem with meatballs, and.

[Natalie]

Nick's, like, still traumatized.

[Nick]

Like, shaking in a corner.

[Justin]

Yeah.

[Leanne Morgan]

Poor meat.

[Nick]

But they're great meatballs, right?

[Sierra]

They are really good meatballs.

[Justin]

You know, it's not for me to say.

[Sierra]

I think you should make kale salad.

[Justin]

I don't want to cook.

[Nick]

Okay, well, that settles up.

[Justin]

Oh. Happy holidays, everybody.

[Nick]

Happy holidays.

[Justin]

Thank you.

[Nick]

I feel cheery.

[Justin]

Thanksgiving.

[Sierra]

I have been in the holiday spirit. You have for years now, I think.

[Natalie]

I think you take a two week break.

[Justin]

Our house was decorated before Halloween. Well, before we get to reality, recap. We thought it would be fun. Talk about what else we are watching specifically for the holidays. You know, honestly, a good movie during holiday season is a great family break.

[Sierra]

Saving a movie, like, only watching certain movies.

[Leanne Morgan]

Yeah.

[Sierra]

During the holidays makes them 10 times better.

[Justin]

It's a family lubricant.

[Natalie]

A family lubricant.

[Nick]

The start of a tradition.

[Justin]

I mean, I love my family. Love, love. But, like, you get together on the holidays.

[Natalie]

Yeah. You got to break the ice somewhere. What better than, like, ice skating and watching a movie.

[Justin]

Yeah.

[Sierra]

With a Starbucks drink in your.

[Leanne Morgan]

That's so.

[Justin]

Things we can all agree on. Starbucks is delicious and tasty and wonderful and Home Alone's a fantastic movie.

[Sierra]

You feel like you.

[Justin]

I have 10 Simmons. I can't agree on everything with them, but. But that's something I can agree on.

[Natalie]

Home Alone.

[Leanne Morgan]

Yeah.

[Justin]

In Starbucks.

[Nick]

I'm a Grinch girly myself. I will say that is the one movie that I cannot wait for all of the trees to be lit up, the fireplace to be going.

[Sierra]

Do you pair a certain drink from Starbucks with the Grinch?

[Nick]

When I have a sip of this caramel brulee latte, it reminds me of that scene from how the Grinch Stole Christmas when he's the cheermeister and everyone's trying to stuff pieces of fudge in his mouth and he has to try everything. But I'm like. I feel like this is like, the best one, the winner, you know?

[Natalie]

Can I tell you something? What? I one time terrified my roommates because I do know that movie verbatim because I watched it so much as a kid, and they were like, you don't know it verbatim? And I was like, I do. And then we turned it on and I was like, inside a snowflake. Like the one on your sleeve.

[Sierra]

And then were they like, all right, that's enough.

[Connor]

That's enough.

[Nick]

And he was like, no, it's not.

[Charlie Manley]

We get it.

[Natalie]

Because guess what just drank an entire peppermint mocha. So I was.

[Sierra]

You were ready to go?

[Leanne Morgan]

Yeah.

[Justin]

What's your favorite Christmas movie?

[Natalie]

Well, I can't say the cringe because Sierra already said it, but in close, like, close tie is Christmas vacation. That's good. It is good. It always makes me laugh when he's trying to put up the Christmas lights or when he does put up the Christmas lights, finally. And then Juliet Lewis as the daughter is like, he worked really hard on it, Grandpa. And the grandpa's like, yeah, and so do washing machines.

[Justin]

It's one of my favorite jokes that would make Clark Griswold feel a little better about himself drinking a delicious peppermint mocha.

[Natalie]

If Clark Griswold had a peppermint mocha, none of that stuff would have gone down that way.

[Sierra]

I have to say, I think pairing a caramel brulee latte. Hot, obviously with serendipity.

[Justin]

Love that movie. They drank a lot of coffee in that movie.

[Sierra]

Literally. When I am sitting on my couch and I have a hot caramel brulee latte in my hand from Starbucks, I'm picturing myself walking in New York at Christmas time. It's cold, it's snowy. There's lights everywhere. Like, I'm in the movie.

[Nick]

Are you in the department store about to reach for that cashmere? Are you kidding?

[Justin]

She walks into her Starbucks and imagines in a meet cute with someone not.

[Nick]

Her husband, but then like, stages it with her husband. Because of course.

[Justin]

Yeah, we go. We go into a Starbucks every holiday season. And role play.

[Leanne Morgan]

We do.

[Sierra]

Oh, my God.

[Justin]

We're like, excuse me, is. Oh, my God.

[Sierra]

Are you gonna get that mug?

[Justin]

Get a puppet. Mint mocha.

[Macy]

Yes.

[Justin]

Is this love at first sight?

[Natalie]

Oh, my God.

[Sierra]

They're like, for njv. And we both go, those are my initials. Those are my initials.

[Natalie]

You know, speaking of meet cutes at Starbucks. It's funny because it's not like it's a hol to me. It's a holiday movie. But the movie best in show, I watch every Thanksgiving. And two of the characters in best in show, they're a married couple and they met at Starbucks. Anyway, Parker Posey. Classic.

[Leanne Morgan]

Love it.

[Justin]

Great, great movie. Which is a better Christmas movie? Santa Claus one or two?

[Connor]

Two.

[Natalie]

Unpopular opinion. Two. Yeah.

[Nick]

Really? Yeah, I'm gonna go with one.

[Natalie]

I had a crush on the mall. The Mrs. Claus.

[Leanne Morgan]

There you go.

[Sierra]

We need to figure out what movies we're gonna show river this year. What Christmas movies? Because I haven't.

[Justin]

Hasn't seen any Christmas. Yeah. Rudolph the Red Nosed Reindeer.

[Nick]

The claymation ones.

[Sierra]

Yes. Oh, she's gonna love that.

[Justin]

What was the elf's name in that?

[Sierra]

She wants to be a dentist.

[Leanne Morgan]

Yes.

[Natalie]

Hermes.

[Connor]

Oh, yeah.

[Justin]

He would have enjoyed a peppermint mocha.

[Natalie]

Herme would down a peppermint mocha.

[Nick]

Frosty the Snowman.

[Natalie]

Frosty's a classic.

[Justin]

Buddy the Elf, The Little Drummer Boy.

[Natalie]

Yeah. How are we not talking?

[Nick]

Can't sit on a throne of lies.

[Justin]

He would down a caramel brulee latte.

[Natalie]

Yeah.

[Nick]

Yes.

[Sierra]

Yeah.

[Nick]

With spaghetti, extra maple syrup, extra caramel.

[Sierra]

I feel like multiple at a time.

[Justin]

You know, one holiday movie that my family loves is Its Wonderful Life. I know it touches the heartstrings. It's a movie about gratitude. And I could not be more grateful for my peppermint mocha by my side.

[Sierra]

Was it hard to pick a movie? Like, when you're. When your whole family gets together, is it hard to decide on one because there's so many of you?

[Justin]

Well, rule in our family is if you bring the coffee, you get to pick.

[Connor]

Yeah.

[Sierra]

For everybody. You have to bring a holiday beverage for everybody. Or is it like, you just.

[Nick]

And the homeowner's choice.

[Leanne Morgan]

Yeah.

[Justin]

So it's like, really? It was dad, you know.

[Natalie]

Yeah. Your dad was choosing my mom was.

[Justin]

Always my house, my rules, you know.

[Nick]

Which makes sense by what it's.

[Sierra]

And he has to say he has good taste. So, you know.

[Leanne Morgan]

Yeah.

[Nick]

Can I also say another one of my favorites growing up watching A Christmas Story, it's one of those movies from the past that I didn't really understand. And every year watching it, it gets better and better, and I feel like I just enjoy it more with the people that I show it to or the people that, like, haven't seen it before. I'm like, yeah.

[Justin]

When he got his tongue stuck on the pole, all he had to do is just pour a nice warm peppermint milk on it.

[Sierra]

So true. So true. Well, it seems like we'll never be able to agree on the best holiday movies because they're all so amazing. But one thing we know we can always agree on is our love for the Starbucks holiday beverages. Share the season with our returning favorites, like the peppermint mocha or the caramel brulee latte at a Starbucks near you.

[Natalie]

All right.

[Charlie Manley]

Did you guys hear?

[Natalie]

Jen Shaw is gonna get out of prison December 10th. Early, earlier than expected.

[Justin]

You know who else got released from prison? I only know this because I'm from Waukesha. Do you remember the Slender man killings?

[Sierra]

Yes.

[Justin]

This person got released early.

[Leanne Morgan]

Whoa. That's. Whoa.

[Justin]

And I believe has since cut off their ankle brace and is missing, so.

[Connor]

Yay.

[Natalie]

Oh, okay.

[Sierra]

You can just cut them off.

[Justin]

Well, you can. I mean, I think it's illegal. Yeah.

[Natalie]

I think it's a thing that you're not supposed to do, but you can.

[Sierra]

Just, like, take a pair of scissors, like a pair of household scissors to your ankle monitor and be done with.

[Natalie]

I mean, I've never had an ankle monitor, so I think if you like.

[Justin]

Probation or if you're wearing this ankle bracelet for a reason, I don't think it's impossible to get like, a heavy duty, like, wire cutter and just cut it off.

[Connor]

No.

[Charlie Manley]

Yeah.

[Justin]

I think if that happens, alarms go off and things happen where they will be like, you are in extra trouble now. But I. I guess if you really want it, you can.

[Natalie]

Well, I don't think Jen Charles gonna do that.

[Sierra]

Wait, she's gonna have an ankle monitor.

[Nick]

She's either gonna go to a halfway house or probably be finishing out her at home. Yeah. Complete the remaining portion of her sentence under supervision.

[Sierra]

Supervision.

[Nick]

She either be released at home and be at house arrest, or she'd be transferred to a halfway house.

[Macy]

I see.

[Sierra]

I see.

[Nick]

Do we think so we don't know which one.

[Sierra]

I mean, I feel like they gotta pick up cameras at least for just like.

[Justin]

I think Bravo's done with her.

[Natalie]

Andy said he was done with her, but, you know, so Monica's kind of stirring the pot a little bit. She posted a reel with the caption, when you can manifest like a. About Jen Shaw getting released.

[Justin]

Does he want her released?

[Natalie]

Well, because a lot of the things of, like, would you have Jen or would you have Monica back? And I think a lot of the women were like, Jen. And Monica's kind of like, all right, then.

[Nick]

Well, you get what you ask for. I mean, it was kind of crazy at. Was it BravoCon or watch what Happens Live? Angie was had to choose between Jen and Monica coming back. And she chose Jen because she thinks people like her. She's more likable. And it was just like, in what season it's comparing, like, junior high crimes to, like, high adult legal crimes. Like, they don't. They don't equate to each other.

[Justin]

Well, yeah, but as far as these women go, the crime wasn't done to them. To them. Like with Monica, the crime was done.

[Nick]

To them, but that's even crazier.

[Justin]

And with Jen Shaw.

[Nick]

It was just like some capable of.

[Natalie]

Well, I will say, since, like Jen Shaw's surrender, she. Her sentence has been reduced multiple times. The BOP attributed those reductions to good behavior, participation in prison programming, and financial payments she's begun making to victims.

[Justin]

Okay, she's making amends.

[Natalie]

Yeah, she's making amends. She's been ordered to pay 6.5 million in restitution. So she's begun paying her restitution, and she has been doing her time. So, I mean, we'll see. I. I mean, I'm curious. What will happen?

[Justin]

Well, this week is the finale of Dancing with the Stars. Unfortunately, it won't be including Ms. Whitney Levitt. She was limited last week. She does have some peers coming to her defense. None other than the queen of the ballroom, Ms. Julianne Huff, who had a scathing quote in defense of Whitney. What did she say?

[Natalie]

Whitney is a queen, and people only villainize people who trigger them. Being ambitious is not a crime. It's a superpower. Especially when you have goodness to share and joy to bring to people's lives, which is what you have done. I absolutely adore you, Whitney Lovett. You have shown nothing but hard work, playfulness, dedication, and pure talent. You're a star. I can't wait to see what is next for you. You are magic, and you have me in your corner from here on.

[Justin]

She's not wrong. I think. I do think a lot of people who don't like ambition. I know, like, people who try very hard, like Whitney. Whitney is an effort person. She puts effort into everything she does, and I think some people find that off putting. We almost, like, want people who are, like, effortlessly good. Like, they don't try. They just happen to have things work out.

[Natalie]

God forbid a girl is earnest and wants what she wants.

[Justin]

Yeah. Do we think we're gonna see her on Broadway?

[Sierra]

She's seen in New York.

[Natalie]

We've seen in New York. People think she might be. Can she sing for Chicago? I'm sure she can.

[Sierra]

I think she said in an interview after Dancing the Stars one night when that was brought up, like, oh, my God, I would love to, but I would definitely need to, like, do singing lessons. Just, like, I don't think she.

[Natalie]

That's what she.

[Justin]

Whitney is, if nothing a perfectionist, so.

[Sierra]

Oh, for sure. I'm sure she started singing lessons at night.

[Natalie]

And guess what?

[Sierra]

If Whitney.

[Natalie]

If Whitney ends up in Chicago, I. I am flying out there. I am seated. I want to see.

[Sierra]

She'll never know that you're there.

[Natalie]

Well, that's okay. That's okay. She doesn't need to know that I'm there. I just want to see it. I'm just a fan. She doesn't have to like me. I love her.

[Sierra]

I think she'll crush. I think she'll do really well.

[Justin]

Maybe we'll all go and do a team trip to see Whitney on Broadway.

[Natalie]

Let's go.

[Justin]

If they.

[Connor]

If.

[Justin]

Do you think she'll let us in?

[Natalie]

She'll let Justin.

[Sierra]

And she loves him.

[Nick]

We'll put, we'll put the tickets under our names.

[Justin]

Can you imagine us going? And then they're like, sorry guys, you're not, you're not welcome here.

[Connor]

You're actually.

[Nick]

I would cry from Chicago.

[Sierra]

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[Justin]

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[Sierra]

This batch of episodes, last batch. Moving on from Jesse and Jordan now we're very much focusing on Taylor and Dakota, which was definitely not a breath of fresh air, but it was like.

[Justin]

I almost missed their toxicity.

[Nick]

A nice change of pace.

[Sierra]

Yeah. It was like, oh, this is what we know and love about this show.

[Nick]

Yes. A little Stagecoach.

[Sierra]

And it's crazy.

[Justin]

It's almost crazy. To your point, you got Jesse and Jordan. It's like, oh, like we're using words like emotional abuse. And then we have the Demi of it all. And it's like, like we're having, you know, we got these accusations that are being questioned with, with, with Dakota and Taylor not to minimize their trauma, but it's like good old fashioned toxicity.

[Sierra]

Well, it's still pretty dark. I mean, he's like, yeah, going to his. Her mom's friend, which is.

[Justin]

I'd rather have that than a husband, you know, calling his wife names.

[Sierra]

For sure.

[Macy]

Yeah.

[Nick]

But.

[Macy]

But I feel, I feel her struggle so deeply where it's like, you know, like, now this really, really is the end for them because now her parents are not families. Her whole family is done. And so she knows. She's like, even if, like, I could find a place in my heart to, like, forgive him and move on, he's the father of my kid. Like, I don't want to have to, like, go through this again. Like, she can't. It's over now.

[Connor]

I tried to do some sleuthing. Is this family friend the girl that was in that video that Taylor commented, like, snakes on or something? Do you remember this? It was like a month ago when. Oh, yeah, it was the dancing video. And there was a girl in the middle that like, oh, no, no, no.

[Macy]

This is Leanne's friend. This is her mom.

[Connor]

Well, and then I realized I don't think it is, but like, dang, everybody be sleeping with Dakota.

[Natalie]

I mean, I just think it was really funny when, after Stagecoach, when she was like, talking about the girl sleeping with Dakota. And Taylor's mom is just, like, sitting there in the background with her sunglasses on.

[Connor]

She's part of the cast.

[Nick]

She looks like the New York meme.

[Natalie]

Yes, she did. She looked like the New York moon. She looked alone in the vip. Candy Muse.

[Sierra]

Yeah, it was perfect. But I guess, do we have a timeline of what happened? Like, like, her mom's friend is saying that. Oh, I was just trying to, like, be there for him.

[Macy]

Yeah, everybody's got a different story because, I mean, her mom's friend was kind of just like, what are you talking about? I didn't do anything.

[Nick]

It's the playing dumb for me. Where like, even Leigh Ann and Taylor were both like, we know her voice. We know how she talks. Like, she's clearly lying. But it's like, they're like, what do you mean? Who? Like, it's like, don't play dumb.

[Macy]

I was just sending him pictures of me in a bikini.

[Connor]

She admitted to, like, the sexting a little bit.

[Sierra]

I was telling him he should buy this bikini for Taylor, and I wanted him to, like, see how cute it was.

[Macy]

I was just inviting him over to talk.

[Natalie]

But then also, she's like, he's gross.

[Macy]

And Taylor's like, no, because you wanted to, like, just be honest.

[Justin]

Like, do you think Dakota's hot? I think Dakota's hot.

[Leanne Morgan]

Yeah.

[Macy]

He's got those piercing.

[Nick]

Not for me, but not for me.

[Justin]

I think Justin's objective because I feel like he can just see a man for, like, how he looks without the, like, the. The icks and the.

[Connor]

Yeah, yeah. I do think Marciano. That man's hot.

[Sierra]

We're done with that, Justin.

[Leanne Morgan]

No, no, no, no.

[Connor]

I said he's not hot.

[Macy]

Oh, good.

[Justin]

Oh, okay.

[Sierra]

No, I was like, why are we all.

[Connor]

I was like, why are we all disagreeing?

[Nick]

The household.

[Macy]

Oh, my God.

[Sierra]

God, that was nervous.

[Macy]

Yeah. But it's just the fact that they, like, they.

[Nick]

The will.

[Macy]

They won't they. And now we're finally at the. They won't.

[Nick]

Yeah. It makes me sad for Tiffany.

[Macy]

This feels like the end.

[Nick]

She did say in her interview where she was just like, I had to leave somebody that I didn't want to be done with.

[Sierra]

You know?

[Nick]

So I'm like. I think the idea of thinking that they've built up to a place where they can finally be together and be happy. They're being all cutesy during Stagecoach. To know that that, like, one thing is looming over them and it's going to be the one thing that's just going to snap.

[Macy]

Yeah.

[Nick]

Break the camel's back.

[Natalie]

Yeah.

[Nick]

And as it should. Like messing around with somebody's family member or family friend, like, that's up, you know?

[Natalie]

Yeah.

[Nick]

It's specific.

[Natalie]

Yeah.

[Nick]

There's too many people in the world to be texting and talking to or venting to your feelings to that. It doesn't.

[Natalie]

And you pick the one person.

[Nick]

Right.

[Macy]

It's just.

[Natalie]

It's messy.

[Charlie Manley]

It's.

[Macy]

I mean, the fact that, like, he doesn't want to even be part of the show anymore because, like, he tells.

[Sierra]

Me everything's getting out, that all of it's true.

[Macy]

Guilty as fuck. Yeah.

[Sierra]

That you don't want to if it wasn't true about it, he'd do what Jesse's doing and come out and be like, let's take a lie detector test. I want to prove to all of you. Read my text messages that's not true. That's not what happened.

[Justin]

He's like, I don't want to be reported. I'm not filming. What do you think he was thinking? Like, are there not.

[Macy]

I think his dick was thinking.

[Sierra]

Yeah, I think he was thinking.

[Justin]

Yeah, but still, even, like.

[Sierra]

Yeah. I don't know.

[Justin]

Even your dick sometimes knows this is a bad idea.

[Macy]

I don't know. I think. I think that. That she probably sent him some pictures, and he wasn't gonna say, hey, no, don'. Send me sexy pictures.

[Sierra]

And then I definitely think she is the one who started this. I think Dakota doesn't have the, like, guts to go after Leanne's friend. I think he would be, like, way too scared to make the first move. And I think she definitely came for him first.

[Justin]

And he was like, oh, I think he played like. You guys would be blown away by some of the unsolicited nudes. I've been sent in the past by people.

[Connor]

People.

[Justin]

Like, sometimes you just don't ask for them. You don't want them.

[Sierra]

He clearly entertained them.

[Justin]

No, he did. Oh, he did. I'm just saying. But what I'm saying is you can. You can ignore a nude, you know?

[Connor]

Can I. Dodging bullets.

[Macy]

What do you. You just delete it.

[Justin]

You just don't respond well.

[Connor]

It doesn't show them anywhere more.

[Natalie]

Right.

[Connor]

Doesn't it, like, blur them? Like, doesn't Instagram DMS blur nudes now or.

[Justin]

I don't know. This was a long, long time ago.

[Leanne Morgan]

Tell me. I don't know.

[Sierra]

I haven't gotten any of my DMs.

[Nick]

You know what I mean? I could not verify that.

[Justin]

I'm just saying, like, you can. You can ignore nude.

[Sierra]

Yeah, I believe you.

[Justin]

And I think all. If he. But you have to just literally ignore it. You can't respond because, like, any.

[Sierra]

Here's Nick's tip of the day, everybody. You can ignore.

[Justin]

You can ignore nude.

[Macy]

In case you were wondering. You can, in fact, ignore those nudes that you're getting.

[Justin]

I will say, too, from a. If you. If a woman sends a guy a nude and you ignore it, I feel like that's a.

[Connor]

A.

[Justin]

It's a pretty aggressive shutdown.

[Connor]

Yeah.

[Sierra]

Well, again, he didn't ignore it. Yeah, he entertained it.

[Justin]

I think he was like, oh. He was like, oh, that's Crazy.

[Sierra]

Maybe you should have given him this advice beforehand.

[Nick]

I believe the note was that he could tell that she was wearing something in. In a silhouette.

[Macy]

I just feel. I feel really bad for Taylor because, like, not only is it like her and her emotions, like, she clearly loves him and it's like, now she can't be with him, but it's also like. Like they have this kid together and she loves her. Her son, obviously, and she wants ever to have a father and a mother who are together and like, now ever's not going to have that. And like, she wants the best for her son and her son. Like, even Dakota not letting him have his.

[Connor]

The blessing.

[Macy]

Blessing, like, it's going to get in the way of, like, her son being R. You know, it's just.

[Sierra]

It's hard.

[Macy]

It's hard to navigate. It's hard to come to terms with. And now she really. You know, this is the true end where it's like, the option was always still open and now it's closed.

[Nick]

Dakota also has some responsibility in that too, though.

[Macy]

No, I'm saying he has all the responsibility, but I'm saying it's very hard for Taylor to, like, all she asked.

[Nick]

For is like, don't lie to me.

[Macy]

Exactly.

[Nick]

Sketchy shit behind my back.

[Macy]

It's just annoying. Like, it's. It's frustrating that he put her in that position.

[Sierra]

It's entirely his fault.

[Justin]

Okay, what do we.

[Connor]

What do we think of Taylor sitting down with Chase at the end?

[Justin]

That was crazy.

[Nick]

Yeah, I was like. All I was thinking was like, Miranda.

[Sierra]

Yeah, yeah, Miranda.

[Nick]

Yeah, the one that you guys just initiated into mom talk.

[Sierra]

Officially, like, that was potentially a producer's idea before they knew she was going to be Bachelorette.

[Justin]

I'm surprised they even aired it.

[Sierra]

They could have.

[Macy]

They could have cut that. There was a different way to end the show.

[Nick]

I'm sure there's an alternative ending because.

[Sierra]

It'S giving like, oh, drama into season four. You went on a date with my ex husband, father of my children.

[Justin]

Also, it's kind of like not too far removed from, like, responding to your mom's friends. Like, it's a little too in the family, you know? Exactly. If nothing else, there's just like, it's in the space. It's a little too close to home.

[Sierra]

Like, there's just gotta be more men in Utah.

[Nick]

It doesn't feel like it, though. I was gonna say that I do the thing I do like about Mormon wives, one of the many, but I'm just like. Even their scandals where I'm like, the soft swinging was the most intense one. But I'm like, one is like, I kissed somebody twice. The other one is like, I'm. I. Layla dated Chase first and now is dating the brother. And it's just like, are there more men in Utah? Layla dated Chase, and, like, now Taylor sitting down with Chase, who's Miranda's. You know, I'm just like, there's just a lot of crossover here that just wouldn't be happening in most friend groups and be.

[Connor]

Yeah.

[Nick]

Amicable.

[Connor]

Taylor even said, I'm gonna get in trouble for this one.

[Charlie Manley]

Yeah.

[Connor]

Well, why are you there?

[Macy]

Well, because I don't think. In her defense, I don't think she thought that it was gonna go where it went when she sat down there.

[Natalie]

Chase brought up the flirting. Chase pulled out the ring.

[Macy]

Chase said it was a date. Chase asked for the kiss. Chase brought up the feelings.

[Connor]

It's just embarrassing.

[Macy]

Taylor probably just thought it was like, okay, we're, like, gonna try to. We're gonna shoot a scene, mend things here.

[Leanne Morgan]

Yeah.

[Macy]

But it is interesting because we've got a major spoiler alert. Yeah, that's not gonna go anywhere.

[Natalie]

Doesn't work out.

[Sierra]

The next season of the Bachelorette.

[Natalie]

Tune in to abc.

[Nick]

I was like, oh, my God. We were talking about Dakota showing up to the casting. What if it's Chase? Chase?

[Natalie]

That would be crazy.

[Nick]

Continuation from season.

[Justin]

What was Whitney's big contribution this season? It felt like she wasn't really to.

[Sierra]

Bring Demi and the girls back together.

[Nick]

She did feel like we.

[Justin]

Do you feel like she did that?

[Nick]

I feel like, yes, I do.

[Macy]

She instigated the whole thing. She went to Macy, who she knew would be able to get the girls together, and she convinced her.

[Justin]

I think she quit.

[Nick]

Who, Whitney, Demi or Demi?

[Natalie]

Well, Whitney did her best.

[Charlie Manley]

Okay.

[Natalie]

Whitney went on a full art, and I.

[Macy]

And I thought that her apology and her final speech was very sincere, beautiful, and very beautiful. I love when they, like, you know, really open up.

[Natalie]

I think she's really grown.

[Sierra]

Yeah.

[Macy]

I mean, I think that she's being logical.

[Natalie]

Whitney.

[Macy]

Yeah, I think she's being logical. Like, she was like, I'm not gonna, like, yeah, I'm not gonna just brush this off. What Demi was saying. She's like, I'm. If somebody's saying they were sexually assaulted, I'm not just gonna be like, I don't believe you.

[Natalie]

She honestly, to me, was the only. Only person that was reacting to that in a way that was, like, making sense to me.

[Macy]

She really wanted to get to the bottom of It. She wanted. She went in first being like, I believe you, and then she was just, like, trying to put the pieces together, and it wasn't making sense to her, and she was struggling with the fact that, like, she was genuinely wanting to believe her. Exactly when she couldn't figure out why the pieces weren't fitting.

[Justin]

I appreciate Whitney's willingness to listen to me because Whitney wasn't there at Vanderpump Villa. But I also don't want to criticize the other women for having their doubts, specifically, like, the Mikayla and Macy and Jesse and Dan, all women who have opened up about their own past traumas, you know, when it comes to abuse or assault. And I think they have some valid questions and doubts as it relates to Demi's story.

[Macy]

Yeah, no, definitely.

[Leanne Morgan]

Totally.

[Macy]

Yeah. Well, because Michaela and Macy, like, they have opened up on this show about, like. I mean, Michaela was six years old when she was sexually abused. Like, they have opened up about this, and to them, it's like, a very triggering thing. And it's like, if you're lying about that.

[Justin]

The biggest horrible challenge, and I think the biggest kind of uncomfortable thing about this whole thing is that when the women confront Demi and kind of poke holes in her story, she resorts back to the narrative is there's no perfect victim, which is true. And there's no ideal story. But it also, to me, is delivering it in a way where it almost feels like anything I say, you can't doubt, because, like, there is. You know, I can talk to him. I can engage with him. I can do whatever I want. And that doesn't discount what happened. And it's like, yeah, you know, it's really hard to, like, like, question anything because to your point, like, you don't want to not believe people. And it's just. I think a lot of people are really uncomfortable with this whole narrative because. Because of the potential fallout as it relates to, like, all kinds of victims.

[Macy]

I think what Connor said was really, like, important where he. He. He said exactly. What I feel like I feel about this is, like, I want to believe a victim, especially he's a victim himself. But, like, if you are. Are making an accusation and it's not true, that's not that it diminishes anybody else who's been a victim and has come forward with it. I mean, in general, I do love Connor and Whitney's relationship. I love that Whitney is like, Connor always wants to hear the tea. And so, like, when I come, like, they're cute.

[Natalie]

I want to gab with them.

[Macy]

Yeah.

[Natalie]

Yeah.

[Justin]

Well, you can't because you're blocked. Mary.

[Macy]

I. You know what's interesting, though? I took a picture with Connor at Dancing with the Stars and we had a lovely conversation, and I said, tell your wife I love her.

[Connor]

Did you know who you were?

[Justin]

Connor is not Whitney.

[Macy]

He knew I was with the Vile Files.

[Natalie]

I love Whitney so much. I'm really sad. I'm, like, actively, like, really sad about it. Like, I love her. She's my fit. She's been my favorite Mormon wife since.

[Leanne Morgan]

Like, the first episode.

[Justin]

All right, well, I'm sure we will keep talking about this season of the Secret Lives of Mormon Wives, as I'm sure there will be drama that unfolds from the Internet and these women engaging with each other. Southern Charm made its debut last night. I thought it was a fun, little goofy episode. I'm excited about this season. I think my favorite part was when Austin was talking about, is he still dating that same girl?

[Sierra]

No.

[Macy]

Yes.

[Nick]

Wait, I thought, well, not now.

[Macy]

They just broke up.

[Nick]

It's been enough.

[Justin]

They did break up when he was like, my girlfriend, she's like, yeah, she has her own life. I have my own life. She's miles away. I can actually get things done now. It's like, come, please, someone check on this woman. Like he's describing it, fuck buddy.

[Natalie]

Literally.

[Macy]

Well, they're not together anymore.

[Nick]

No, it did not work out with Pookie Schmooky.

[Macy]

I did love the opening scene where the four men were out to dinner. And then it just, like, kept cutting to them, yelling at each other. Well, we shouldn't be friends anymore.

[Sierra]

Thank God.

[Nick]

And I love how Southern Charm loves to bury the lead. They're like, here's the ending. And now you gotta watch the entire season to get here.

[Leanne Morgan]

Yeah.

[Sierra]

But also, like, we didn't need to sit through that whole dinner and, like, listen to them, like, chit chat. And then, oh, what builds up into the fight? Like, yeah, just show us the beats of the fight and then let's move on. Right. That's all I needed. If you have no idea what we're talking about, we do have a rapid recap of the first episode of Southern Charm. Molly cements herself as the coolest girl in the world by feeding her pet snake a mouse. I don't feel like that was the coolest. That's really sad. She's also low key, a pat rat. And I don't think it's low key either. I do feel like that was a high key pack rat. Madison is super pregnant. But still looking hot. Craig feels betrayed because Paige broke up with him and he also doesn't know how to be single. Shep is still himself, but his age range has increased to 28 growth. Austin is mad about Craig no longer being sober after being mad that he was sober. Sally and Vanita are besties now and bonded over how annoying JT is. He blocked and ghosted Vanita after the reunion. Also, Vanita thinks Craig is a she said it on the Vowel Files, so Craig hates her. Craig and Sally both think the other is hot, but as Sally is besties with Bonita, that complicates things. Molly was flirting with Corey, Craig's friend who is a douche but also hot. And then he was kind of mean to her when she was drunk and she was was sad that she skipped her band concert. Sally and Vanita's friendship is already on the outs as she wants to talk to Craig and Vanita storms out of Madison's baby shower. Overall, this season looks t. That was a fast friendship. I do feel like we saw really you the highest of highs of Sally and Vanita and then how quickly a male's attention can just rip things apart.

[Justin]

Is it. Is that the like the main storyline, the love triangle between. I mean, I. I'm fine with Vanita like being team Paige, but it doesn't make sense for Vanita to have some sort of like, vendetta against.

[Sierra]

Well, it's because Craig went on Watch what Happens Live and was like, I don't fudge with her and she'll never be my friend again.

[Macy]

Yeah, they had all.

[Nick]

And they never had a conversation about it. The first time she heard that was on Watch what Happens Live.

[Sierra]

So Vanita has every right to be like the.

[Nick]

Or like, I'm not going to be the one to go up to talk to him at a baby shower and cause the big scene that we know is going to end up happening.

[Macy]

Inevitably, we kind of stirred the pot a little bit because Vanita came on our show and called Craig a. And then he went on Watch what Happens Live and said he doesn't fuck with her.

[Natalie]

I am glad that was one of the. The episodes I did, like, try to look cute.

[Justin]

She did call him a. Yeah, well.

[Sierra]

He.

[Leanne Morgan]

Was booing a little bit.

[Sierra]

I said, oh, cheer Vanita.

[Nick]

Yeah, you did.

[Charlie Manley]

Yeah.

[Justin]

There's a question I have of Renita. How was Craig making it seem like Paige was unfaithful by not saying that? No, no, no. But he has to be actually do something. You can, you can't. You can't do something by not doing something.

[Macy]

Yeah, you can. Yeah, you can.

[Nick]

He was being asked questions.

[Justin]

If all. But I'm saying that was kind of my point, though. But if. If all he was doing is not say anything, because, again, Paige was the one who broke up with Craig out of nowhere, and then weeks later, was publicly seen with someone who then became her boyfriend. What do you want Craig to think? What if Craig doesn't know what happened?

[Sierra]

We did have Craig putting out his, like, we broke up real or story or whatever that was. And in that story, he was like, there was no blindsided. There was no this. Like, he did clarify that in that one video. So I guess to Craig's defense, he's like, I'm not going to continue to go out of my way to, like, have this person's back who did just betray me and, like, and.

[Justin]

And. And cause speculation. And I'm just wondering what Craig did outside of not saying anything that implied that Paige did something wrong.

[Macy]

Well, he didn't say anything. That's literally. That's what he did.

[Natalie]

I think Craig really played the victim card hard, even though, obviously a breakup takes two people. Like, I think Craig was just like.

[Leanne Morgan]

My feelings were hurt, but he has.

[Justin]

The right to have his feelings.

[Natalie]

He has the right. Yeah, that's fine. I'm just saying I think Vanita's thing was that, like, he was really leaning into it.

[Justin]

How is he leaning into it? That's kind of my point. The Internet demanded Craig come to Paige's defense, and he opted to be like, nah. I'm like, that's not my problem anymore. She's not my girlfriend.

[Connor]

Nick, the answer to your question is on a platform like, watch what happens live. No answer is an answer. So I think, like, that's where he was asked questions, where he had the chance to just say it for the ones and move on.

[Macy]

Sometimes no answer is an answer. And in this case, it was if.

[Justin]

Three weeks after a breakup that caught you off guard and. And that person is then singing, canoodling with someone else. And granted, it could have just been, like, right after the breakup, and that's fair. And that people have a right to do that. But, like, again, if you get broken up with out of the blue and the. And you're heartbroken, and then your ex is immediately dating weeks later, you're gonna start asking questions. You're gonna be like, wait, was it really a clean break? Usually there's, like, a mourning process. Even when you break up with a relationship, you're sad.

[Connor]

I mean, wasn't also, like, Austin or Shep also going on Watch what Happens live, insinuating that Paige was, like, cheated. Like, I feel like it was more than just Craig, but also his friend.

[Sierra]

But then you had all of Paige's friends going on Watch what Happens live and being like, he's doing all this for attention. He's doing all this to, like, he's playing the victim. He's this, he's that. He's a little baby back. And then we have Craig being like, I didn't eat, eat, or sleep for weeks. He's like, I was actually heartbroken. Like, what was I doing for attention?

[Connor]

Yeah.

[Sierra]

I think everyone's friends were coming after the other person.

[Connor]

Yeah.

[Sierra]

Yeah.

[Natalie]

I think we need a joint Southern charm and summer house reunion. See what happens.

[Justin]

I mean, I'm assuming we're gonna move on of this topic going forward. I feel like it got rehashed. It's episode one. They're kind of, like, bringing us up to speed of all the things that happened. But I honestly, like, hope we move on.

[Nick]

Well, yeah, we're gonna watch Craig navigate being single, and all the girlies in South Carolina are losing their minds.

[Connor]

By the way, the show's gonna perform better with Craig single.

[Natalie]

So I'm way more invested with this with Craig being single.

[Nick]

Freaking Bravo Con. I swear to God, it was like the Beatles were walking through. It was just like a sea of women stampeding to just try to get a photo or be next to him.

[Justin]

And I was like, oh, he was. He was king shit at Bravo.

[Nick]

You know, he made Captain Jason this year look like. Was he even there?

[Natalie]

Yeah.

[Nick]

No, Craig was in the building.

[Natalie]

Molly is my favorite. I want to be best friends with Molly. I love that girl.

[Sierra]

Down.

[Connor]

I do love Molly.

[Nick]

I love her. The hoarding, though.

[Sierra]

No, the hoarding.

[Leanne Morgan]

The little.

[Justin]

It's a little.

[Natalie]

Listen, she moved into a smaller space.

[Sierra]

She doesn't have to get rid of it. When you move, get rid of it, you don't move everything into your new place. You get rid of it. As you're packing, you're like, oh, I don't need these shoes that I haven't worn since the 12th grade. Like, let me get rid of them also.

[Justin]

Wait. We land on, as an adult joining, like, clubs and teams that, like, are typically reserved for, like, high school.

[Natalie]

I think that Molly have a hobby. Okay, hold on.

[Sierra]

And everybody, I think, in the group is an adult.

[Justin]

I was asking, did you guys see oldest? Did you guys see Bill Belichick's girlfriend and her adult cheerleading team?

[Natalie]

I Think that it's beautiful when somebody has a passion and wants to.

[Sierra]

I think that is showing that she is every bit of the 22 that she is.

[Leanne Morgan]

Is.

[Natalie]

Yeah.

[Sierra]

And if I were doing things like that when I met nick, I would 100% understand why he didn't want to date me. Because, like, maybe I'm not as old soul as I like to think that I am.

[Justin]

Follow your passions. But yeah, I'm not coming to your cheer.

[Natalie]

To get back to Molly, though, she's in like, like symphony orchestra. Like, she's playing an instrument. She's.

[Connor]

People play instruments. Professionally, it's a little different.

[Natalie]

A love of music, it makes you warm of heart.

[Sierra]

I feel like she's the youngest maybe of the group.

[Justin]

Who are we talking about?

[Sierra]

Molly. And I did feel like Corey just being everything that came out of his mouth made me so nauseous and sick to my stomach. Well, when I come to your place tonight, he's so cheesy.

[Natalie]

Also, he doesn't want to go to her place.

[Sierra]

You can touch my snake. That's just.

[Nick]

That made me feel so bad though, because I was like, you know that Molly just like loved the attention. She was a little tipsy, but I was just like, he is not the one run from him.

[Natalie]

But when she started crying because she felt bad that she Mr. Band concert, it like. It like hit something in me as a band kid.

[Nick]

But I was gonna say he wasn't being mean. I think for him it was like that was the ultimate turnoff.

[Leanne Morgan]

Yeah.

[Sierra]

Yeah. You could tell the second she started crying, he was like, ah, yeah.

[Natalie]

He was like, wait, she's actually a nerd? And I'm like, yes, let her be.

[Nick]

That's beautiful. Which we do love. I do love that Molly is authentically herself.

[Justin]

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[Sierra]

I'm doing good.

[Justin]

How are y'?

[Leanne Morgan]

All?

[Justin]

We're great. Well, we're excited to see how things kick off with Southern Charm. We watched the first episode. Last night was fun. Oh, it was a fun episode.

[Sierra]

It was a fun episode. The preview looked very good for the upcoming season. So.

[Charlie Manley]

Yeah, I know I can't really speak much on the first episode because I obviously wasn't involved in that one, but.

[Connor]

Yeah.

[Justin]

Well, as a new member of Southern Charm, I guess let's just start with like, how did you become a part of this cast and what does it feel like to join a show like Southern Charm that's obviously been around for a long time and it has, you know, some, some pretty established characters.

[Charlie Manley]

Yeah. So I'm, I've been in Charleston for almost six years now. I'm from like a really small town in the upstate of South Carolina. So, like, I grew up in and around Charleston too. Charleston is such a small town. So I've known all of these people, like, or known of them, like, run in the same circles for the past couple of years. They're definitely like big characters, big personalities. But I became really close friends with Sally, like, who's, who's in the friend group and yeah, just like through her was introduced and became closer to the.

[Sierra]

Other people in the group.

[Charlie Manley]

So, I mean, they're definitely an intimidating bunch.

[Leanne Morgan]

They.

[Charlie Manley]

They've been friends for a long time. You know, most of them, like, are a little bit older than I am, but, I mean, they're great.

[Sierra]

And I guess. How quickly did you expect you and Sally's friendship to crumble as soon as you came onto the show?

[Charlie Manley]

Yeah, that was like. I mean, pretty, pretty crazy. It's not like it's not crumbling, like I would say. It's just friends fight like they do. And we have. We really have only been friends for. For a little over a year now, but whenever we started hanging out, we became so close very fast. So I do. I feel like I. I see her as more of like a sister. And we fight like sisters, for sure. Introducing other people to, like, have an opinion on our fights is definitely, definitely new. But. Yeah.

[Justin]

So who is. Who is Charlie Manley? And. And why should. And I'm assuming they should.

[Connor]

Should.

[Justin]

But like, and I don't want to doubt you, but why should Bravo fans rally around you And. And who is a Charlie fan, man?

[Charlie Manley]

I don't. I mean, I. Sounds like cliche, but I really am like a small town girl from South Carolina. Like, I mean, I. An art gallery in Charleston. I've been there for about three years now. I love it. It, like, Charleston is my home. My entire family is still in my hometown, three hours away. Like, I. I was just there yesterday. Like, I. I hope that people will find me endearing. I also not like a super confrontational person, which is why this process was like, a little difficult for me. But it's definitely helped me, like, come out of my shell more.

[Sierra]

And what was like, your. Obviously we see that you and Craig have a little moment. I don't know how long it lasts. I don't know if it's still currently going on today, but. What was your impression of Craig going into the show?

[Charlie Manley]

I've never, like, watched Southern Charm, but I have, like, watched Summer House in the past, so I knew vaguely the ins and outs of, I mean, what was put on television of him and his last relationship. And I mean, I guess getting to know him like around Charleston, he seemed like a really nice, friendly guy. Whenever I first started hanging out, like with the group, I do feel like the two of us gravitated towards each other. I think that we have a lot in common. Yeah. I mean, I don't know, our personalities just kind of like, matched whenever we were together. But there is, I mean, a lot of fodder online about. About him and who he is as a person. But I wanted to make that, like, opinion for myself.

[Justin]

So did you have any opinion on whether we were just debating this? I love them both, but I just don't feel like Craig was responsible for clearing Paige's name once they broke up because, I don't know, he seemed genuinely heartbroken. And she was out there publicly being around people, which she's allowed to do, but it also caused speculation. But Venita, your cast member, spoke very strongly about her opinion about how Craig should handle himself. I was just curious, as an outsider coming into this group, if you had any opinions about that whole dynamic.

[Charlie Manley]

Yeah, I mean, I think that I was obviously, like, trying to form my own opinions, like, on Craig outside of his breakup. I actually, like, before hanging out with this group, like, had just gotten out of a three and a half, almost four year breakup, and I feel like that's kind of how Craig and I really bonded. So in terms of him having to, you know, speak about his ex or, like, defend his ex after their breakup, I. I definitely understood where he was coming from because once I was broken up with my ex, like, I'm done. Like, I. I'm like, no. Like, I'm not. I don't want anything to do, like, in the best way possible. Like, I don't want anything to do with you anymore. So, like, I understand where he was coming from, but I. I get. I see the other side too, but I think that I, in that moment, understood his side way more.

[Sierra]

Who was the most intimidating cast member to film with or to just be around? I feel like it's not a.

[Natalie]

Yeah.

[Charlie Manley]

Honestly, she is so sweet. I would say that she's probably the person that I know least, like, in this friend group right now, just because, I mean, this entire summer she's growing her family, like, moving into a new house, like, whatever. I. I do think that, like, we'll get to know each other more in the future, and I'm excited about it, but she's really intimidating, for sure.

[Sierra]

Yeah, I feel like I get the vibe from her.

[Justin]

What can we expect? I mean, I know we don't want you to spoil anything or give anything away, but what can we expect this season as a whole from the cast itself and specifically from you? What can you tease in terms of your involvement in this season?

[Charlie Manley]

Yeah, I mean, this season really is exactly like how life normally is in Charleston. I mean, for the most part, the entire cast is single. Charleston's a very incestual place. Like, everyone's dating everybody. And it's just like that in this friend group too. And then navigating friendships, too. I mean, that's something that. I mean, I wasn't expecting to do, like, I don't know, like, on this scale.

[Justin]

But, yeah, I got it. I was watching it. I. I bought my first house when I was. I started to date my wife. And so when I bought the house, Natalie moved in. And on.

[Connor]

On.

[Justin]

On one side, I was like, oh, thank God I have someone to share this house with. It was. It was great. On the flip. I mean, on the flip side, I. You know, Craig is a single man now, and he's a homeowner. And now he's a guy with a little bit of cash, a little bit of money.

[Sierra]

Nick wishes he had his, you know, in his house.

[Justin]

I think Craig's gonna really clean up. In his era, being like, a homeowner, that.

[Sierra]

That.

[Justin]

That patio, you know? Know, it's one thing to be like, come back to my place, and it's. And it's a dirty apartment with no sheets or something. I don't. I don't know. But, like, it's another thing when he's like, all right, I got this nice backyard.

[Sierra]

No, it's a nice house.

[Charlie Manley]

He's a. He's really successful, successful guy, and, like, he knows what he wants. He just, like, it just might take him a minute to get there, you know?

[Leanne Morgan]

Yeah.

[Sierra]

What about. What are your opinions on Shep?

[Charlie Manley]

Oh, my gosh. I love Shep, but in, like, a older brother way.

[Sierra]

Okay.

[Charlie Manley]

But I love him. I. I Love Shep before 2am Love him.

[Natalie]

Yeah.

[Justin]

You know, we need maybe like a. A homemaker, a makeover episode with the ladies of Southern Chime. Come into his apartment and maybe suggest that he takes the.

[Sierra]

I think he said he moved.

[Justin]

Did he. Did he still have the baseball caps in his living room?

[Charlie Manley]

I'm sure he does. I mean, I'm. He's on. He's on a different house. Like, he's in a different house now, but I'm sure he. The same decor, man cave. He hasn't had a high. Hasn't had a housewarming party yet.

[Sierra]

We'll see season. The next season for sure.

[Connor]

Yeah.

[Justin]

Well, Charlie, it was great just kind of getting to know you, and we're excited to watch you this season and hopefully come back, you know, as the drama unfolds. We'll see if.

[Leanne Morgan]

Yeah.

[Justin]

Yeah. If you need. If you need a platform to speak your piece and really, you know, if you don't like what you saw.

[Leanne Morgan]

Sure.

[Justin]

And you want to get the word out on the street. Think of us. We're here for you.

[Sierra]

Last question. Did you.

[Connor]

Yeah.

[Sierra]

Were you nervous at all seeing the first episode and seeing that our interview with Vanita was in it and was a little bit part of the drama? Did that make you, like, a little bit nervous to come on? No.

[Charlie Manley]

I mean, if anything, I feel like it made me more excited. Like, I do feel like a lot of times, you know, things might not come out the way that you expect them to or not everything is shown and you want. You want to explain it a little bit better, so I get it. I loved it.

[Sierra]

Okay, great. We'll come back when you got to explain something a little bit better.

[Justin]

Charlie, we appreciate taking the time. Congratulations for being a part of the cast of Southern Charm. We're excited to see how your journey unfolds this season. Happy holidays, and we appreciate you taking the time.

[Sierra]

Yeah, absolutely.

[Charlie Manley]

Thanks for having me.

[Justin]

Thanks, Charlie.

[Sierra]

Thanks, Charlie.

[Charlie Manley]

Yeah.

[Justin]

Well, she seems nice. She seems fun. Certainly like an eligible lady for. For Craig and the other boys to potentially fight over.

[Nick]

Yes, absolutely.

[Sierra]

Which is.

[Justin]

Honestly, that's all we really need.

[Sierra]

That's all we really need.

[Justin]

All right, well, up next, let's get into some Real Housewives of OC reunion part three. And then Leanne Morgan. You guys are not going to want to miss this interview. I'm sure you know who she is. A hilarious comedian. So funny. She. Her star is rising. She sits down with me and Natalie. It was a ton of fun to chat with, so we'll get to that in a moment. But we do have finally part three of the Real Housewives of oc, and it didn't disappoint.

[Nick]

I don't even.

[Natalie]

Wow.

[Nick]

Side I'm on, to be completely honest. It's like, there's just so much information flying by. Like, do I think Tamara Judge is AI. Making up post to do things to Gretchen? I don't think that Tamara has the time or the energy. But then I'm also kind of like, there's things that have been around.

[Leanne Morgan]

Around that.

[Nick]

That have. Have said that these posts have been around for years. I. I don't know. I don't know.

[Justin]

All I needed to hear was that Gretchen follows 4, 500 people. And at that point, I was like, okay, well, like, let's not. You know, when you follow that many accounts, you don't know who you follow. And you've been following. You're just. You're. You're pretty liberal with the following.

[Sierra]

Like, To Andy said, like, she's not seeing 4,500 posts on her feed.

[Macy]

Yeah.

[Natalie]

So, like, I do believe that Gretchen probably saw a post that was like, like, John 3:16 or some shit, and then like, followed it because she loves God. And then it turned out post dark posts also. Yeah.

[Justin]

Andy seemed genuinely annoyed with Tamara. Andy seemed frustrated with this storyline.

[Nick]

I. I think just like, frustrated with where all of this is coming from. Because, I mean, Tamara does make a good point. She's been on the show for 15 years. Like, why now all of a sudden when her arch nemesis comes back, that all of a sudden she's a security breach and is leaking storylines? And not even, like, leaking storylines. We're talking, like, every detail of a season. And I'm, like, blaming Slade, but then Slade wasn't around or, like, didn't know that she was going to be on.

[Sierra]

The show of it all. Definitely felt like a cop out, you know, where it's like, don't put your fingers at me. Look at Slade.

[Nick]

So that's why it was so hard.

[Natalie]

To follow, because it feels like Slade's not here.

[Nick]

But it felt like when some. Like when Tamara would start making a good point, then she would say something and you're like, oh. And then when Gretchen would start making a good point, then she would say something. You're like, well, Tamara couldn't do that. Like, you know.

[Justin]

You know, we love Tamara. Tamara wants to come back on the show. Hopefully Peacock Bravo will let her. But I do have to say, like, if that's your best defense, it's not a very good one.

[Sierra]

Yeah.

[Justin]

And I think we have a rapid recap to kick things off.

[Sierra]

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[Nick]

It's the vox sound.

[Natalie]

Valentina say ally.

[Sierra]

Yeah, can you put, like, in. In, like, parentheses, like, where these are coming from? Or like, say in this accent? Because otherwise I'm just gonna read it and then it comes off.

[Nick]

It was actually funnier because you said it in a straight tone and then it, like, played in my head it's kind of like.

[Sierra]

However, she admits she could have liked stuff in the middle of the night that she didn't read. Tamara claimed Gretchen unfollowed all the hate accounts after she got back from Amsterdam. Gretchen said yes, she did and it made her realize that she needed to go through the account she followed. Heather acknowledged that Gretchen has always been kind to her and her beautiful queer family. But she low key has heard that Gretchen was sus. But apparently Gretchen hired a cyber analysis company. She spent thousands of dollars. It claims that the worst post never existed. It was AI and also tied to tariff. Tamara Gina apologizing for ambushing Gretchen. Tamara claimed she never was an to Emily, even though she called her Shrek and then said she wasn't successful unless she was on her podcast network. And then omg. There were unreleased scenes. Gina couldn't find the receipts about the posts and felt bad. Gretchen cries Then we got to the camera pickups. Katie is gagged. Tamara thinks it's an ambush. Tamara claimed she never talked to bloggers except just being nice. Everyone does that. Katie said this is true. Ella lol. But the smoking gun. The blogger knew Shannon was mad she didn't get invited to Upfront T According to Tamara, Slade was working overtime and she swears on her children's life that she didn't do it. No one really believed her. Andy is like, what? Heather then went on a gorgeous monologue to say, stop playing Survivor. This is Housewives. It's too meta. Everyone stop. Oh. Also, to close the Heather improv saga, Gina admitted she finds Heather funny. Love wins.

[Justin]

Eat smart@factor meals.com Nick Vile 50 off and use code Nick Vile 50 off to get 50 off your first box plus free breakfast for one year. That is code N I C K V I A L L 50 off@factor meals.com for 50% off your first box plus free breakfast For a year. Get Delicious Ready to eat meals delivered with Factor offer only valid with new Factor customers with code in qualifying auto renewing subscription purchase. I thought, yeah, Heather was fantastic in this episode. I mean, she really said all the right things, which is like, it's gotten weird. Like, why has it gotten so dark? Why isn't it just like us bickering about our lives? Lives.

[Nick]

The fact that Tamara couldn't understand where Emily was coming from was like, you put Gina in a bad position. As Heather literally says, you sent me that information and I texted you back saying I want zero part in this. So why did you go to somebody else instead of you yourself? Going to Gretchen, being like, this is what's going on.

[Sierra]

And then seeing the unreleased footage at the cake baking night at Tamara's house where Tamara tries to bring it up again and Heather, like, realizes what she's doing and she's like, nope, I told you I'm not doing this. And she gets up and walks away. It's like, so wild to see that these women know, like, her know that, like, she's about to drop something off so that one of them will get super mad about it and bring it up the next time they see her and Brett and. And Tamara doesn't have to do all the work.

[Nick]

Well, yeah, and it's just like, icky.

[Natalie]

Because the accusations that Tamara is making about Gretchen are, like, super serious. Like, this is like fucked up shit that Gretchen is allegedly liking and saying. And like. But the problem is, it's like, whether or not that's true, like, it doesn't matter because that's not what. Like, you're not bringing this up because you care. You're bringing this up because you want to go tit for tat. And that's what Heather is saying. And Heather's like, listen, I am like, the one that is like, actively like, me and my family are like, the people that are actively affected by these things. And I don't want to talk about this because I know what you're doing. So it's just, just like, why?

[Nick]

And again, like, a question I would love to ask Tamara is that the timing of, of why, like, the beginning of the season was getting everybody against Katie for being a liar and saying all these things. But I'm like, if you've been sitting on having Gretchen's post for two years, why did we wait until the very end to bring this up? Versus, like, that should have been something a brought to Heather. And if Heather says she doesn't want to talk about it, then squash. Don't talk about it. He discussed off camera. Yeah, but it's like, it was a weird. It's a weird.

[Natalie]

That's a really personal thing.

[Sierra]

Also now you're Tamara being like, I didn't. I forgot all about it until I saw Gretchen and she like, joined our group and it all just felt like very performative. I don't know.

[Nick]

And that's what's so weird is because Tam was also the one that brought up the naked wasted rumors and everything going on and the Kiki Monique of it also. It's just kind of like you put yourself in this position because she said during this reunion union, when they were like, it's a bad look what you're doing to Gretchen. And she's like, yeah, it's a bad look to be accused of being drugged. I'm like, you're the one that brought this to the forefront.

[Sierra]

Right, Right.

[Nick]

So that's what I mean.

[Justin]

Like, Tamara's only defense is, like, she's never done this before, but, like, Gretchen's been off for so long, and this is the first time in a long time that Gretchen's back, and maybe it just, like, instigated something in Tamra that made her do something she's never done before.

[Sierra]

And also, like. Like, the way that that man was phrasing the things that he knew about the season sounded so. From Tamra's mouth.

[Nick]

The.

[Sierra]

Like, Tamara had a confrontation with Slade and Gretchen, but she took the high road and she walked away. Like, Slade isn't saying that.

[Justin]

That's not coming from Slate.

[Sierra]

That's not coming from Gretchen. No one's gonna say Tamara took a high road besides Tamara.

[Connor]

I don't know. I'll give her, like, 2% of the benefit of the doubt that any blogger can. Could, like, do that. You know what I mean? Like, bloggers will jump at any moment to be like, well, I was talking to so and so. And, like, they said this and, like, we see everything unfold on the Internet again.

[Sierra]

But they wouldn't have known anything that happened unless someone from the inside told them. And no one else from that group, no Gretchen, no Gina, no Katie, would have framed that sentence in that way.

[Justin]

Justin, do you think a blogger would be savvy enough to get some tea and then reframe the tea? So that looked like it potentially came from a housewife?

[Connor]

That is 100% if that gives them a potential Kiki Monique moment. 100%. Like, I think we've had bloggers on these shows before, like, say things in a way to, like, make it a storyline so that then now look at it. They've been in two minutes of OC and a finale, and now they're talked about on the reunion.

[Sierra]

But this person isn't even mentioned by name. No one knows who this person is.

[Connor]

They're not. People want their two seconds of, like, exposure with the shows they love. So, like, I think that they. Like, the 2% of me is like, there is a world where, I mean, we know half the storylines by the time the show already airs.

[Natalie]

I think what's really. What really stands out to me is the whole, like, Shannon being upset about upfronts because, like, that wasn't something like that's.

[Nick]

It wasn't even on the season.

[Natalie]

That wasn't on the season. That wasn't even something that would have.

[Sierra]

Been a story between them that just like, happened. They just happened to have cameras rolling. So do you think it's like someone in crew?

[Nick]

But that's the other thing too, where I was like, the call is absolutely coming from inside the house. But I'm like, why are we acting like that? There's not an entire group of people that are not on camera that could also be having these conversations that do know everything. I'm not saying, like, I don't want to like, blame production, but I'm just saying that I'm like, I do feel bad for Tamara in a way that I'm just like, for her professional career. This is what she does.

[Justin]

That is true. I mean, there's hundreds of people who work on them. Like back in, you know, like Bachelor franchise. There's always been like, spoilers and things like that. And spoilers were always kind of a bigger deal then because it was like, are they engaged? Who's. Who's dating? Things like. That's a little different than like, say, like housewives storylines.

[Sierra]

Right.

[Justin]

And it would never come from cast it, you know, like a lot of people, like, you have an art department, you have sound. There's like hundreds of people that kind of like work in the shadows. They're behind the scenes. They're like. You don't really notice that they're even there. And some of them are big fucking fans. Like, I mean, Nellie and I have worked on shows where you find out that someone like, infiltrates and you realize that they're just a die hard fan. It's like that stuff happens ends and those. Those close. Those are often the leaks.

[Nick]

I was gonna say even. Even temporary. People that are just like, working on this season, but maybe just work through the network, but not actually like, dedicated to a show. Hair and makeup, loves to gossip. I'm just like, there's so many people that are also closely knit to these people that could very well have been there.

[Connor]

Yeah, I just, I just think back to how, like, I knew Lindsay Hubbard was pregnant, like way before it was even like in the blog.

[Nick]

We thought you were crazy for that when you said it.

[Connor]

And it's just like people notice things and you see things online and it's like, even fans that are at these events, like, that didn't sign releases. Like, they're like in the background saying who knows what to overhearing things.

[Nick]

Even as The. The video of Shep freaking out in the. In the lobby of a hotel where it's like he doesn't know he's being recorded and someone's recording him saying that Paige and Craig's relationship was a sham.

[Connor]

And, like, they didn't sign a release to not, like, release that or talk about it. Exactly.

[Nick]

So I'm like, I think when people.

[Justin]

I mean, it definitely could be production or, you know, someone setting up Tamra.

[Nick]

Someone who worked on the show that's a fan of the show and was like, oh, my God, let me tell you everything that I heard.

[Justin]

I think both could be a little true. I think Tamara could be behind some of the Gretchen accusations in a way that's like a little messy and a little dirty and wrong. Like, the screenshot stuff, it's like, oh, all you can find is a screenshot. I could see a world. And this is total speculation. This is me just. Just, like, fan theory. But, like, yeah, I could see production being like, that's kind of fucked. And like, almost like, you know what? Let's. Let's change the narrative because I think, like, again, Andy seemed irritated. He seemed like he was defending Gretchen. Like, it's kind of a very icky scandal to, like, again, as Shannon said, like, it's potentially life ruining, right? So I think there's a bit of a misdirect here. We end the season with Shannon getting most of the heat, like, in a way, without really, really stating it. There was a little bit of, like, the. The focus really, shockingly, wasn't on Gretchen this episode, you know what I'm saying? It was more on Tamra. And I think without absolving Gretchen, because, like, no one really knows where this came from. So there's no, like, clear, like, well, you. You've been absolved. I think it's. It kind of makes sense. It kind of makes sense. The production was like, let's take the light off of this very dark accusation and let's make it about leaking storylines. And that kind of makes sense because.

[Nick]

It also did kind of make the, like, end of it. That's what I said. I was like, I don't really know where I leave on this reunion. I don't know who I believe or what I believe, but it's like, at the end of the day, I'm not bogged down with like, oh, my God, that was so dark. How are we gonna come back next season? I'm like, I'm ready for next season.

[Natalie]

I'm ready to move on from. It's just confusing. And I'm ready to move on, I think.

[Justin]

And bring on Vicky Gundam. You're going to have to learn how.

[Macy]

To say her name.

[Justin]

We are excited for her return.

[Charlie Manley]

Yes.

[Nick]

She's not going to put up with any of this. Just so we know the queen is going to come. Huh?

[Justin]

I said I can't wait. I think it's an.

[Macy]

In the studio.

[Natalie]

Oh, yes.

[Justin]

Why was she. Why would she take her a Chinese.

[Nick]

Chicken salad when she comes? I don't know that she. Justin.

[Justin]

I mean, definitely put on pause.

[Nick]

She was definitely put on pause.

[Natalie]

But wasn't she. She was a friend last. Last season Right. Of Shannon occasionally.

[Justin]

All I'm saying is she's wanted this for a while now. From what I've heard from, you know, like, her not being a part of this franchise is. Is not from Vicky's doing. Like, she put on pause. She was like, I don't know. But I was just curious if anyone knew why.

[Connor]

I mean, I do know that, like, Vicki has done some interviews even like the. The Housewife one or the reality TV one where she had. She has a complicated relationship with the network.

[Nick]

Because that was post.

[Connor]

It was post. But like, because she filmed events of her life that she regretted filming. And then also, like, I think at one point she was a friend of. But wanted to be full time maybe. And then ultimately she just didn't return.

[Justin]

She went a little rogue.

[Connor]

I don't know if rogue's the right word because she did the interviews when she wasn't on Bravo. So like, I don't know.

[Nick]

I'm on.

[Connor]

I think it's complicated. I think there's a back and forth between the network and her. And I think they just finally reached like an agreement where they respect each other.

[Leanne Morgan]

And then.

[Sierra]

I know she didn't come back to.

[Nick]

You with like, Tamara was gone as well. But she was featured in last season.

[Natalie]

Yeah. Because she was Shannon's best friend with Alexis.

[Connor]

I just. I think they did the right choice because she literally created like, she started Housewives. Housewives started with OC and she was the original cast.

[Justin]

That's incredible. No.

[Connor]

And 20 years of housewives.

[Nick]

20 years of housewives.

[Justin]

All in all, good season.

[Nick]

Yeah. She was demoted from full time cast member to a friend in 2019, then left the show entirely in 2020. The network's decision was based on a desire to freshen up the show, often referred to as bringing in newer blood. So they didn't ask her back. And then she was just like, I'm not coming back.

[Connor]

Well, then she came. That's what I think. It was a back and forth.

[Leanne Morgan]

Yeah.

[Connor]

Yeah.

[Justin]

Well, she's back now, and we're excited. All right, it's time to laugh. We got Leanne Morgan. If you don't know who she is, well, you've been living under a rock, and if. If you do, I. I know you're very excited to hear this interview. She's hilarious. We love her. Enjoy yourself.

[Sierra]

Leanne Morgan, welcome to the show.

[Leanne Morgan]

Thank you for.

[Justin]

You know, we go way back. I don't. And by we, I mean we with you. I. I don't know. I started the show in 2019. I don't know when your first special came out.

[Leanne Morgan]

April 2023. There was one before that, but I don't like my hair color. That was on Dry bar. A dry bar special. The Netflix was in 2023, maybe.

[Justin]

It seems like so long ago, cuz we've wanted you on for so long. It just seems like we couldn't get you fast enough. But I remember when my wife called me, she was, I think, visiting your sister.

[Sierra]

I was. I was in Savannah visiting my sister.

[Justin]

She. She doesn't know. She rarely does this. And she was like, you must get Leanne Morgan on.

[Sierra]

We had just finished your special, and we were in her bed kicking our feet, giggling, and I was like, we need her on the show.

[Leanne Morgan]

We gotta get her.

[Justin]

And then I turned it on. I'm like, you made me laugh, too. And I don't even know if I'm your target demo.

[Sierra]

You are.

[Leanne Morgan]

I do have a lot of women, but now that I have a television series. Series. I've gotten a lot more men because my television series.

[Justin]

You're like, your star is blowing up.

[Leanne Morgan]

Well, I don't feel like it.

[Justin]

No.

[Sierra]

No.

[Leanne Morgan]

I mean, I. I'm busy and I'm tired, and I get to do a lot of nifty things, but I still go home and start putting in a load of wash. I'm a grandmother, so I'm, you know, taking care. I want to take care of your baby. You know, I want to talk to y', all, but I'd also want to take care of that baby.

[Macy]

Right?

[Leanne Morgan]

So I still am Grandmama, Are you.

[Sierra]

Having so much fun being a grandma?

[Leanne Morgan]

I don't even know. Yeah, I mean, y' all won't know until you have. It's. It's. And I'm in love with my children. It's a different love. It's a different kind of love. It's not better. It's not. It's a Different, kind of. And it is magical. I know it's magical.

[Sierra]

I gave my mom her first, and so therefore, I think I'm the favorite child. Child is your son who gave you your two. Is he your favorite right now?

[Leanne Morgan]

Yeah.

[Sierra]

Yeah.

[Leanne Morgan]

Well. But these girls. God love these girls. They tend to me and take care of girls. Take care of you. But that boy was my first yummy. Be cute in his pants like this one. Gotta get him sweet spirit.

[Justin]

I love my sweet spirit.

[Leanne Morgan]

Huh? I can tell he's a sweet spirit. And, yeah, he had these two babies, and they want more. And. But my daughters are aunts and loony. I mean, we're all loony. And I just sit and look for toys and buy shirts with dinosaurs on it.

[Sierra]

You do?

[Leanne Morgan]

And I buy big plastic dinosaurs from China, and they fight each other with them. They like.

[Sierra]

Is your house, like, full of toys? The fun grandma house? Yeah.

[Leanne Morgan]

Yeah. And I let them do whatever they want.

[Sierra]

Isn't it crazy how you. You talk about this in your special? You were stay at home mama. You raised all them babies. Your husband was gone working, and now look at you.

[Macy]

You're gone.

[Sierra]

You're working.

[Leanne Morgan]

You're traveling the world for 25 years. But I. But I did. I got to raise them, and I. I was always doing comedy. But. But, I mean, you know, there were times I couldn't get arrested. Nobody cared. But I always got to take them to school, pick them up, and Chuck would take care of them on the weekends so that I could go. Yeah, but it. But it is. I can now. They don't need me like they used to. And we're all having a ball.

[Nick]

We're all.

[Sierra]

That gets to a point where they don't need you.

[Leanne Morgan]

Well, they need me. They don't think they do. And you've got an adult parent. That's a whole different thing, because you can't really tell them what to do. You have to just.

[Sierra]

True.

[Leanne Morgan]

Let them figure it out themselves. But it's awful because you want to stay up in there.

[Sierra]

Well, I got in her. Her crib last night to put her to sleep, and I thought to myself, her husband's gonna have to kick me out of her bed because I'm not ever gonna. He's gonna have to sleep. Trainer. I'm not doing it.

[Justin]

They have a special bond. It's very sweet.

[Leanne Morgan]

That baby's yummy.

[Sierra]

She is.

[Leanne Morgan]

Okay. Y' all exercise?

[Sierra]

No. Well, he does. I don't really.

[Justin]

I've been. I. I've. I've exercised the least lately.

[Leanne Morgan]

Because you're working all the time.

[Justin]

I'm working my dad, you know, I'm busy. Yeah, I could be a little bit more disciplined. You start. You've been doing.

[Sierra]

Yeah, like once every couple weeks I try to get into a class.

[Leanne Morgan]

You know, I've never been on a reformer. I did mat Pilates when little Joseph, that little man that invented it, you could do it on a mat. And I did it in San Antonio twice a week. It was $60 a month while my kids took swim lessons. And I, I built myself a natural girdle. And then I came back to Knoxville and they had the reformers, but it was like $1,500 a month and I couldn't afford it, so. So my girdle snapped. And I thought, I hate to say that in front of a good looking man, but there was stuff hanging out of my panties. I didn't know what happened. And it was. And it was. They said Pilates builds you a natural girdle. And then if you stop. And I had to stop. Cause I couldn't. That was the only Pilates.

[Sierra]

What was that cleanup like, Rob, took a long time.

[Leanne Morgan]

But I would like to do reformer Pilates because that's what all the Hollywood girls are doing.

[Sierra]

They are.

[Leanne Morgan]

I did look into a class when I was shooting my series and I mean somebody to come to my house and train me personally. And it was a lot. So I didn't do a personal trainer. Yeah, I don't like a real pilates girl that people know and stuff. Somebody famous told me, get her. And I was like, okay. I didn't because I don't do that. I'm pretty normal, you know, I'm 60. This happened to me late in life.

[Connor]

You're 60?

[Leanne Morgan]

I just turned 60 October 3rd.

[Sierra]

What did you do for your 60th birthday?

[Leanne Morgan]

We went to the beach and took those babies and all my children and they got me. We had hamburgers and hot dogs and baked beans because I knew they would love that for my birthday meal. And then because they're two and five. And then my kids bought me two birthday cakes from Publix and I stood at the kitchen counter and ate them with a fork in my bathing suit. And I hate to say this Bruno of you, but a lands in swim dress that was about 10 years old. I've always loved it.

[Sierra]

It sounds nice, I swear. It was like a prom dress. But it's like neoprene so you can.

[Leanne Morgan]

Get it wet, it's comfortable. And I, you know, who am I trying to impress? So I had a Ball. It was one of the best birthdays I've ever had. I stayed inside with toddlers. You know, you don't take.

[Charlie Manley]

Yeah.

[Leanne Morgan]

You can't leave.

[Sierra]

They're feral. Did you cook the anything? Did you have to cook the baked beans?

[Leanne Morgan]

I didn't. My kids all cooked.

[Sierra]

That's nice.

[Macy]

That's nice.

[Sierra]

What did Chuck get you for your birthday?

[Leanne Morgan]

Okay, y', all. That Chuck Morgan, he.

[Connor]

My.

[Leanne Morgan]

This is the wedding ring that he bought me when I turned 50 to upgrade my wedding ring. And what he bought me when we were young and didn't have any money was a beautiful ring. But he got me this one. Okay. He got me. Brought out the old one and had a jeweler design it so that it doesn't look like a wedding ring, but I can wear it on this side. So it's got my old wedding ring.

[Sierra]

But in a new setting.

[Leanne Morgan]

Setting. And got this.

[Sierra]

Who gave him that idea, genius?

[Leanne Morgan]

Nobody. He did. And he's very sentimental about gams because.

[Justin]

He'S stepped up his game since you've really. Has he always been.

[Leanne Morgan]

He's always been.

[Justin]

He's always been.

[Leanne Morgan]

He's tight. We've been on a budget. In that Netflix special, when I said I drove a Honda Pilot for 10 years that had lights flashing in it, I did. So he's very frugal, but he has always taken wonderful care of us and had us on a budget that we probably didn't even have to be on. But I tell people now we've got commodes at work that. And we're doing so much better, you know?

[Nick]

Wow.

[Leanne Morgan]

Because he just has always been on a budget, but he's always been a good gift giver, even. Even through thin and thick and all that. And young. He always got me beautiful.

[Sierra]

Are you good?

[Leanne Morgan]

Oh, y'.

[Nick]

All.

[Leanne Morgan]

I'll get, like, a khaki pant and, like a.

[Sierra]

A tie.

[Leanne Morgan]

Well, it's hard for a man, you know?

[Sierra]

It is. It is.

[Leanne Morgan]

But I did get him pilot lessons to fly a plane.

[Justin]

Is he good at receiving gifts or is he kind of like.

[Leanne Morgan]

He goes, I don't need anything.

[Justin]

Yeah, thanks.

[Leanne Morgan]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But. But I do think he likes to be thought of. He loves a card, and he wants you to take time to pick out a card and say, I don't care about a card, and he'll give me a card, but I'd rather him write me a letter. Like, you know, he'll get a Hallmark that somebody else wrote.

[Sierra]

Right, right. And then put, love, Chuck.

[Leanne Morgan]

Yeah. And if Love Chuck. It'll be appropriate what was said in it. But I'd like to hear it from him.

[Connor]

Right.

[Justin]

You know, he will take the time to pick out the right card in.

[Leanne Morgan]

A Walgreens for four hours. Get hyper focused.

[Sierra]

Do you save all your cards or do you throw them in the trash?

[Leanne Morgan]

I don't. He does. He saves all of his cars. I'm really not a sentimental person. I love.

[Sierra]

What did you do with your baby's teeth and their hair?

[Leanne Morgan]

We just found all their teeth and hair. He had saved them when we just moved out of the house that we raised our children in, which I did cry. I was in all over that. I cried for two, two weeks like somebody died. But now my 32 year old's living in it while he and his wife renovate their house. So that helped me.

[Macy]

That's nice.

[Leanne Morgan]

But yeah, we've got their teeth. Chuck, he had all these little teeth and these cast where they. And he's got them sitting out.

[Justin]

It's kind of gross.

[Sierra]

Sitting out.

[Leanne Morgan]

It is kind of gross.

[Sierra]

My mom has, like a jar in her dresser that I found once when I was a little too young to find a big.

[Justin]

The wrong person walked into that house and saw that jar. They're like, serial killer.

[Leanne Morgan]

Serial killer.

[Justin]

These are trophies.

[Leanne Morgan]

All right. Where were you raised in Alabama, Auburn and. Oh, yeah. You told me that, my darling. Did you know that I did the CMA last night and Alabama is very represented in country music.

[Sierra]

Oh, yeah.

[Leanne Morgan]

Right now.

[Sierra]

Oh, yeah.

[Leanne Morgan]

Ella Langley, Riley Green, friend of show.

[Sierra]

We've had Riley Green on before.

[Leanne Morgan]

Okay. I flirted with Raleigh Green and I Biblical way. Of course, last night it was in the script and I made over him. And when I had met him on the Today show. He is beautiful.

[Justin]

Yeah, yeah.

[Sierra]

Very tall.

[Leanne Morgan]

Very tall, but also beautiful. Shibuzy.

[Natalie]

Yes.

[Leanne Morgan]

As big as a Titan football player. Did he ever play for the Titans? I've never seen as big a man.

[Sierra]

That's wild.

[Leanne Morgan]

Shaboozy.

[Sierra]

Yeah, he is. He is.

[Leanne Morgan]

I just got one little picture with him. He had entourage. I don't have an entrepreneur.

[Sierra]

You must have looked so little next to him.

[Leanne Morgan]

I did. But then I dressed. The whole bit that I did was with Lainey Wilson. And I pitched it and I thought, oh, if this doesn't go over, I'm in deep doo doo. But I said, what if I came out and looked like Lainey Wilson in those bell bottoms, like, living through her, so they're always the same and I got a big booty. And so we all came out and we're like each other. And then we did a little something. And then I flirted with Riley Green. But it was wonderful. If y' all ever been the CMAs, when you're in that in the Bridgestone and you watch those performances, y' all gotta go.

[Sierra]

We gotta go.

[Leanne Morgan]

They would want y'.

[Sierra]

All. Can we be your plus ones next year?

[Macy]

Okay.

[Justin]

I don't think we were invited.

[Sierra]

We weren't invited.

[Leanne Morgan]

Oh, my gosh. It was wonderful. Do you like country music?

[Justin]

My wife got me onto it. Yeah. I didn't before, but she took me to Stagecoach a few years back, and it's a fun. It's like a. It's a good family event.

[Leanne Morgan]

Oh.

[Sierra]

That was my charity work of the year.

[Leanne Morgan]

So Stagecoach isn't like that. Sodom and Gamora, Coachella.

[Sierra]

No, no, no.

[Justin]

It's a little. I mean, it's still a party. It's still a party, but it's a little more, you feel more community, a.

[Sierra]

Little bit more wholesome.

[Justin]

Less drugs and Coachella. It's like people are escaping their parents and like they're sinning.

[Sierra]

They're sinning. Yeah, a lot of sinning.

[Leanne Morgan]

My middle child went to Coachella, but she's a good girl, and I don't think she did any kind of ayahuasca, but I do think country music. I'm an R and B gal, but I do love country music because I.

[Justin]

Was raised near him with Keith Sweatt. Little Keith Sweatt.

[Leanne Morgan]

I do like little Keith Sweatt, but I was. See, I'm 60s, so it was Earth, Wind and Fire, Rick James, Prince. Yeah, I was clubbing, sinning, Clubbing and sinning in the 80s. I've been washing the blood now, but I was. And, yeah, a lot of prints.

[Sierra]

When was the last time you smoked a cigarette?

[Leanne Morgan]

I was 26 years old.

[Sierra]

Remember it clear as day.

[Leanne Morgan]

Oh, loved them, loved them. And I want all the young people. It's nasty and terrible and you won't be able to walk to the mailbox. Don't do it.

[Sierra]

Don't do it.

[Leanne Morgan]

But it was fun when it.

[Connor]

Before.

[Leanne Morgan]

We all knew it was a good time. It was a good Marlboro life.

[Sierra]

No, you, I feel like, are one of the only women that I know that finishes your end of the deal, that you hold up your end of the deal with your husband and you promise things and you deliver regardless of what you've done that day. You talk about how you've been working all day and he's been back at that hotel resting, and you get back and you're like, I know I'm gonna.

[Leanne Morgan]

Have to do terrible, disgusting things because. And I probably don't do them as much as I should. But really, men are simple. And when I don't, I don't mean not smart golden retrievers, but I think if Chuck Morgan can smell something cooking in the oven, if I pour bleach in a guest bathroom and he thinks I've been cleaning, and then if I. That's how men shall love. I think Dr. Phil maybe said that. Or maybe it was Judy, that woman that. Who was that real hateful woman on the radio that would cut everybody off. Anyway, she said that. She said, man, that's all men need, really, to feel loved. And it's true. But I don't do like I should all the time.

[Sierra]

Well, you seem like you do more than most.

[Leanne Morgan]

Well, maybe. And Chuck's had a lot of testosterone. He said mobile home sales. I think men in sales have got a lot of testosterone.

[Justin]

I used to be in sales, and.

[Leanne Morgan]

I think men that are achievers and driven. Chuck's very driven.

[Justin]

We got the panel and I apparently, my. My tea is teeing.

[Sierra]

Oh, we did. We had. We had all of our workups done. Trying to have another baby. And his testosterone was the highest. They were like, way above average.

[Leanne Morgan]

Way, honey. Because men have just dropped to nothing. Oh, good for you. Young men have dropped to nothing.

[Sierra]

Do your babies tell you you famous people they want to meet and then you make it happen?

[Leanne Morgan]

Not often, but yeah, like. Like everybody wanted to go see the Jonas Brothers and I was in a movie with little Nick Jonas. So we got to.

[Justin]

That's exciting.

[Leanne Morgan]

Yeah, that's a flag. A doll. So they. Yeah, and they all scream because they went to see them, you know, when they had on Cheetah, limited to outfits.

[Justin]

Anyone want to meet Reese Witherspoon? Because I would have been excited. You played her big sister.

[Leanne Morgan]

Yes. And TS of course, is my makeup parties. My baby. And she got to be with race a lot. And they've all met her now. She's a doll. I don't think they got to meet Will Ferrell. I don't think test Dan, because she's always with me. But the other one, see, my middle one's in nonprofit. She doesn't get to do anything. And then my boy, because he's got babies, you know, they don't get to do anything.

[Sierra]

Nothing.

[Leanne Morgan]

But he's going to be. He's going to go and see the meat eaters podcast, and he's going to go see that podcast. And my agents Got him tickets. So they. Yeah, they do ask for, you know, here and there, but not a lot. Nobody do anything because everybody's got a bunch of babies and trying to work.

[Sierra]

That's true. I know that's true.

[Leanne Morgan]

I beg them to all quit their job.

[Nick]

They won't.

[Justin]

No.

[Leanne Morgan]

Their daddy doesn't want them to, but I want them to so they can be with me.

[Justin]

This episode's coming out right before Thanksgiving. What do you guys. What are your Thanksgiving traditions?

[Leanne Morgan]

Well, now everybody's coming to my house, but it used to be going to my little mom and daddy's house. I was raised in the country. Country. 35 miles from here on the Kentucky, Tennessee border, in a town of 500 people that grows dark fired tobacco. So let me say to your audience, I know y' all got a big one. This accent's real, and I don't think so, but why would I fake this? People think people got put known, and I'm like, have you ever grown tobacco? But anyway, my people are meat people. My mom and daddy had a meat processing plant and a farm, and that's how they put us through scale. And so there was always a lot of meat, everybody.

[Sierra]

So you weren't a vegetarian growing up?

[Leanne Morgan]

I was when they opened up that meat processing plant. From sixth grade until I went to the University of Tennessee because I cannot take that smell. And then I got away and started eating pizza at the cafeteria because, see, I was a little rural kid. We didn't have delivery or anything like that. And so they were like, let's deliver pizza to our dorm room. And I was like, what? So. And then I started eating pepperoni and stuff and cheeseburgers because I got away from it. But I was pro. I was a vegetarian from six. From sixth grade on.

[Sierra]

Now, were your parents like, how dare you? Or were they like, we understand, honey?

[Leanne Morgan]

No, they love a good pinto bean. We also had a garden. You know, country people. Yeah. So Mama had a bunch of vegetables. Nobody cared. Yeah. We could do whatever I wanted to. My sister ate a bunch of steak and Oreos and Red Hots.

[Sierra]

That's great comment, though. She okay today or she's okay? Okay.

[Justin]

With a side of Oreos. It's crazy.

[Leanne Morgan]

And Red Hot and Red Hots. All of her still pictures, her teeth would be red. But I. They would make over me and go, leanne is. Look at Leanne. She eats pinto beans. And I'd be like, they bragged on me, B. Pinto beans. And I was proud of that. Isn't that crazy?

[Sierra]

That is crazy. Did you mash them up and make them like refried beans on. On Taco Tuesday.

[Leanne Morgan]

No, I like to pinto. You like that whole pinto I did with a little pork fat. I mean, I guess mama put pork fat in them. I played all sports in my high school. Love sports. All through middle school and high school, and. And she would have pinto beans in the oven that were. That were cold, and I would eat them as a snack when I got home from basketball. Is that not twisted? Joshua seen my legs. I was beautiful. I just ran all day. Nobody. We didn't have kids. Cable. I ran all day playing ball and then would eat pinto beans as a snack. I looked like a movie star. Thank God I didn't know it.

[Sierra]

Yeah, thank God there was an Instagram. You would have been. You would have been way famous.

[Leanne Morgan]

I would have been, so. I would have. It would have been terrible. And also, I think it's no telling what I would have done for boys. I've always loved boys. I would. If I. And I say this now that. That I'm an actor, they say I don't feel like that. But in la, I thought if I tried to make it in Hollywood at 20, and the pressure that's put on those. I say all the time, I would be on dope. If I were In Hollywood at 20, I would be on dope trying to cope with all that. And thank the Lord there was not Instagram and all that, because I think I would have Snapchatted. I think I. What? I. I do. I love me.

[Justin]

That's how we met.

[Sierra]

Yeah. Well, on Instagram.

[Leanne Morgan]

But, yeah, a sweet message. I read that about y'.

[Macy]

All.

[Leanne Morgan]

But, yeah, I probably would have done worse, I don't know, because I was pretty fun.

[Sierra]

So everybody's come. Everybody's coming to your house for turkey and pinto beans?

[Leanne Morgan]

Yeah. And I like to have a turkey. I do like to have a turkey. And we call it dressing. We don't call it stuff. Call it dressing. And then we always have a ham.

[Sierra]

Green bean casserole.

[Leanne Morgan]

Yes. Green bean casserole with the Frenchies. Yeah. Yeah.

[Sierra]

That's the dish that I bring every year to Thanksgiving. And, you know, it just doesn't change three ingredients. The easiest thing you could do.

[Leanne Morgan]

How do you do yours, my darling?

[Sierra]

Oh, canned beans, canned cream of mushroom.

[Leanne Morgan]

And then just top it with the crispy onion.

[Sierra]

Yes, I do.

[Charlie Manley]

That's it.

[Leanne Morgan]

What'd you think about this food when you got down here in the South?

[Justin]

I'm not a side guy.

[Sierra]

No, no, no, Listen, you don't like Sides, Leanne, he came. No, no, no.

[Justin]

I got redeemed. I got redeemed. It's, you know, whatever.

[Sierra]

He came to our family Thanksgiving, and my sweet grandmother, rest her soul, Betty sue, she is very serious about dressing. She's very serious about Thanksgiving and everyone bringing their own dish and everybody trying everything that everybody brings. So I brought Nick, first time he's meeting the family. And I said, well, you gotta make something, you know, like, that's a good. Whatcha gonna make? He said he was gonna make.

[Justin]

No, no, no, no. I was at your. Your sister asked me, you nominated meatball. I make. I make really good meatballs. One of the few things. One of the many things I make that are delicious meatballs.

[Sierra]

And so my sweet grandmother was like.

[Justin]

Oh, she nominated me. This is an important thing.

[Sierra]

It's not really Thanksgiving. But she. And then we all sat down, and the only thing that Nick ate for Thanksgiving supper was his meatballs.

[Justin]

I'm not a turkey guy, you know, Heartbroken. She's looking at that great.

[Leanne Morgan]

It's not. I mean, turkey's not my favorite, but if you butter it up good and.

[Justin]

You get through it, no one, because this is a traditional family who likes their traditional Thanksgiving. No one was with my meatballs. So I was like, I slaved away this morning on all these meat meatballs. Her brother in law came over, was in town for dinner, and wouldn't you know it, like a month ago, I'm making meatballs. And John sat down, the doctor, sophisticated man that he is, and, like, took a bite, and it literally took his breath away.

[Leanne Morgan]

Well, don't you know that he was thrilled with your meatballs?

[Justin]

He's like, I've never had meatballs like this. You have to make this for us sometime. And I almost lost my mind. I was like, john, three years ago, I made the exact same dish and no one touched it.

[Sierra]

Yeah.

[Leanne Morgan]

Do you use different kind of meats in your meatball?

[Justin]

Just Italian sausage and. And beef. Italian sausage and be lots of garlic and onions and parsley and oregano and some eggs and some breadcrumbs and some olive oil. And then I make a homemade tomato sauce and I kind of cook it all together.

[Leanne Morgan]

Are your people Italian?

[Justin]

No.

[Leanne Morgan]

What are your people really?

[Justin]

English.

[Leanne Morgan]

English, Swedish.

[Justin]

Yeah. I have 10 siblings.

[Leanne Morgan]

I ran that.

[Sierra]

His mama had 11 babies.

[Leanne Morgan]

11 babies. Where are you in that ordinal positioning?

[Justin]

I am the oldest boy. Second oldest.

[Leanne Morgan]

Second oldest. Did they think you're a movie star? I mean, is everybody tickled with you? Are they as pretty as you all these Children.

[Sierra]

Why are you looking at me?

[Justin]

Of course. Yeah. I don't know. Sure. Being a beautiful, beautiful family. My parents, I think. Yeah. I don't think they're. They didn't lose themselves, you know, they don't care. They're totally happy for me and happy for us, and I think they appreciate some of the things that every once in a while, especially my parents, I take them out, you know, my parents take care of us, we take care of them.

[Macy]

Yeah.

[Justin]

So that's nice to be able to do better than that. I don't. They're not asking the insider questions. They don't.

[Leanne Morgan]

Yeah.

[Justin]

Every once in a while, they'll see me on tv. Tv, and they'll call me up and be like, why didn't you tell me you did this thing? I don't know. Yeah, yeah, that's it.

[Leanne Morgan]

Yeah, yeah.

[Sierra]

Did you. Since your daughter is your makeup artist, she comes with you everywhere. She's on tour with you. She went to the CMAs. And has there been a moment where you go, wipe this off my face and do something else? This is not what I wanted. Are ever fighting over your love?

[Leanne Morgan]

We are fighting over my love. Look. We're fighting over somebody rolling their eyes. It's hard being on the road with your baby because it. And because, you know, I'm. I do, like, turn into boss. And then she wants her mama.

[Macy]

Yeah.

[Leanne Morgan]

You know, and so that. We do have some conflict there. And also, I mean, I want her to. She wants to marry and have babies and it's really brutal. What? You know, my tour touring just signed another 200 city tour. And so she can't have a normal life. And so lately we've been like, she'll do the series with me for sure, because she can get her union. She's almost got that union, which is a crazy big deal to get your union in LA with Diana. Crazy. And so she needs that, and so she'll do that with me and live out there with me. But I have told her, you don't have to do that. This. Because she has taken care of me just like a. She's done, like, bodyguard. I mean, she's smart, she's got common sense, she takes care of a lot of other things besides makeup and hair. And I've really relied on her and that may be too much. And so I've said, you don't have to do this. You. I can find people that can tend to me and take care of me on tour. I can get a tour manager and I've got somebody that tours with me. But I said I want you to marry and have babies. You know, that's My girls want baby. My children all want. We're about babies.

[Sierra]

Yeah.

[Leanne Morgan]

We're about babies and dogs and eating and doing and everybody together and I, and I want her to have that and I don't want her to wake up and you know, and her youth, I mean her young adulthood gone. Because she.

[Sierra]

Would it be you have someone else with you along the road.

[Leanne Morgan]

I know and honey, it would be because there's nothing like having your own daughter, you know, and we laugh and we have a good time. We fun. She wants to slap my teeth out. She gets tired of me, you know, and, and I do. I put. Probably put demands on her because I'm tired and I'm, you know, I have to turn into this boss.

[Sierra]

Is she quick to be like mom? No. Like does she put you in your place? Kind of.

[Leanne Morgan]

She does. She's the baby and she runs our family and she puts me in my place and. But I need her to and I get it. And she is smart in my business and it's got sense. She really does. And everybody thinks she needs to be a stand up. She's really funny, but she just has no desire really. And I think if you want to be a stand up, that's something that's got to burn in your soul because it is so hard and bad and so many no's and disappointments that she doesn't need to be. Nobody needs to push her in that if she doesn't want to do that now she could have her own makeup line. People have, have talked to her about that because I've got this fan base, you know, that love her and want to see her and. But she's really doesn't want to be out there. And then my middle child's in nonprofit and she lives in. She just moved to New York and works for the Food bank for New York and is the middle child and kind of gets lost in the, you know and doesn't want. Doesn't care about money. Doesn't.

[Justin]

I mean doing the cards work.

[Leanne Morgan]

Yes. And she does not. The baby's bougie. Yeah, the baby is bougie.

[Nick]

So is my wife the baby and I'm bougie.

[Leanne Morgan]

You like nice things. Tess likes nice things. Maggie barely has shoes. Don't care.

[Sierra]

Yeah, that's my, that's my sister.

[Leanne Morgan]

And then my boy, he likes a good fishing pole and likes to. He's an outdoorsman and I, you know, and wants these children to have a college fund so that, I mean, that's what he cares about. But the baby. Yeah, is very. Yeah, but everybody. And they love her and they go, she needs to be a stand up. She don't want to do it.

[Sierra]

Does she help you write any of your stuff? Do you run it by it?

[Leanne Morgan]

She has, she has said, what about this? Or like, if there's a script for something, what about this? And okay, I got to tell y'.

[Macy]

All.

[Leanne Morgan]

Tim Daly plays my love interest in the series, plays agent Andrew. And he is a doll. And he was in the makeup room one day and he was saying, you know, I played David Koresh on navies. Hey.

[Natalie]

Dance.

[Leanne Morgan]

He's beautiful. Tess looked at him, he's 69. She goes, if you were a cult leader, I would wear a bonnet and never speak to my family again. And Tim Daly bent over laughing so hard. So she's very witty.

[Connor]

And.

[Leanne Morgan]

And they've taken things that she said and put them in the script.

[Sierra]

Wow, that's crazy. That's crazy.

[Leanne Morgan]

She loves doing. She loves being a makeup artist and she's in there with all those middle aged women and that's. She said, that's my demo.

[Sierra]

Did you have a. And your love interest.

[Leanne Morgan]

They cast him and let me tell you, you ought to see him in person. And he has you talking about somebody who has drank some green juice and has not eaten white flour.

[Natalie]

Yeah.

[Leanne Morgan]

And he is stunning. He's married to Taya Leone, who we're in love with. She's beautiful and a girl's girl. And just. Leanne, have you ever tried Guinness? It's pretty good. It's like dessert. And I tried Guinness. Little Taya Leone drinks Guinness.

[Sierra]

The beer.

[Leanne Morgan]

Yeah. Oh, I know. I'm not.

[Justin]

It's like coffee. It has a coffee taste.

[Leanne Morgan]

It's kind of got a dessert taste to it. They wanted me to sip it with that little boy on the Guinness show, on the Guinness family, on Netflix. That little boy, I say that he's a grown man, but he, you know, looked like I could have birthed him. But anyway, Tay Leone's very girls girl, kind of, you know, no makeup, darling. But Tim Daly, beautiful, stunning. And I could just. And, and such a good actor that he, you know, he told me he loved me in the series. And I, for a minute I thought, oh, no, Tim Daly loves me. How am I going to tell Chug? Wonderful.

[Nick]

I love you too.

[Leanne Morgan]

I love you too. Agent Andrew Darling.

[Sierra]

Darling.

[Leanne Morgan]

I mean, darling's got a beautiful head of hair.

[Sierra]

Wow. Wow.

[Leanne Morgan]

I know. Thin looks good. On tv. When I first saw my butt on tv, I thought, whose butt is that?

[Sierra]

Are you watching your. Are you watching it back?

[Leanne Morgan]

No, I don't like to watch myself. I watch it one time, the show.

[Sierra]

The TV show.

[Leanne Morgan]

But I, you know, I sat and, like, held my knees and grit my teeth. But then after I got into it, I thought, okay, pretty good. Pretty good. And, you know, I tell people, I go, please, keep watching it. 16 episodes the first season, my butt gets smaller and my acting gets better. That first three weeks, three episodes, I was like a deer in a headlight. It is so much to learn.

[Connor]

Yeah.

[Leanne Morgan]

And you got upset of 250 people on a crew that are expecting you to do well, so they have a job. I mean, the whole thing. I just want to cry and pack up and go home. But then I settled into it. I tell y', all, drop this name. Jerry Seinfeld. That doll has been kind of mentoring me. His wife reached out to me. I'd met her somewhere, and she said, can Jerry call you? And he said, I want to. I want to tell you what this is going to be like because I've been through it. And he said this. You are the person. They built this around you, Leanne. You're the one that can entertain people on a stage for an hour and make them laugh. Remember that. You've got wonderful writers and they know how to arc a story, you know, and do all that, but you're the star. So you go in that every week and say, I wouldn't say that. I would say this. So at first, I was trying to get my feet under me, and then. Then after a few episodes, I was like, okay, if y' all give me the script, I'll tell you how we really talk in Tennessee. This is really what we'd say. We don't use that mayonnaise.

[Sierra]

We don't do.

[Leanne Morgan]

Y' all probably did. We in the.

[Justin]

I don't like mayonnaise, but we the family. We're not. We're not wet. We're mayonnaise.

[Leanne Morgan]

Mayonnaise. Oh, good, baby.

[Sierra]

Are you Dukes or Hellman's?

[Leanne Morgan]

I like a Dukes, but I'm not. I don't hate on Hellmans. I've never met a mayonnaise I didn't like, but. But, yeah, I had to get that little detail and all that.

[Justin]

That must have been kind of cool. Like, Jerry Seinfeld kind of, like, picked you in a way. Like, what do you think he saw in you, maybe? Did he tell you he did?

[Leanne Morgan]

I mean, he's been so precious to me. And he. He just said, leon, I think you're very unique, and I think you've got a point of view that we haven't seen, and it's very different. You know, he thinks I'm a good storyteller and all that.

[Justin]

And he offered you a his time.

[Leanne Morgan]

And he'll call me. He loves talking about comedy. That's all he cares about. So he just likes to be with comics. He's a billionaire. He could be sitting up in the Hamptons with a bunch of hoop dee doo people you don't want to be. I mean, I'm sure he enjoys them, but he wants to be with comics, and he just wants to talk about stand up and. And he said if there's a fallout in Las Vegas or somewhere and they'll say, jerry so and so can't show up, do you want to do it? He goes, I'll fall, fly, and do it. I want to be on stage every night. He just loves it. But he did that with Nate Borgazzi, too, who's a good friend of mine. He just said, I've been through this. What y' all are going through these, you know, this happening, going from theaters to arenas or whatever, and I want to help you through it. I've been through it.

[Justin]

That's incredible. Is.

[Sierra]

Is the comedy world very competitive, or is it a little bit more?

[Leanne Morgan]

The boys, I think, are competitive with each other.

[Sierra]

Yeah.

[Leanne Morgan]

You know. Yeah, but they're not. I mean, maybe they say me as an old grandma, that's not in their lane, which I'm not.

[Charlie Manley]

Well.

[Leanne Morgan]

And they're all very supportive of me. I've never felt that competitiveness, but I. I see it with them and how they compete with each other. But that's me. And, you know, men are competitive, and that's okay, but. Yeah, and a lot of, you know, a lot of those boys are in the same lane, so they're all fighting for the same ticket sale. You know, when you think about it.

[Sierra]

Yeah.

[Leanne Morgan]

And the females. I mean, you've got Taylor Tomlinson, Nikki Glacier, Sarah Silverman, Chelsea Handler. But I'm not in their lane. Yeah, you know. Yeah, they still have.

[Sierra]

You really have craved your own path.

[Leanne Morgan]

Well, I. You know, and I didn't even mean to. I think it's just I was speaking to a bunch of people that were kind of ignored out in the middle of the United States. Just normal, everyday people. And those girls, those young girls still want to talk about, you know, what. What. I was their age. I wanted to Talk about it, too. It was on my mind, but, no, it's not. But they're all wonderful. I'm all. I'm fans of all of them.

[Sierra]

How adventurous are you having to get these days to find more new material? Or is it coming to you just like the grocery store?

[Leanne Morgan]

Well, there's some things like that that come to me, baby. And then there's other things where I think I need to go and live a normal. You know, I work all the time, and some of my best material is going and watching. Going to a yoga class or going. Watching my baby cheer and where she wore that whore outfit. And we did competition cheer, which I would suggest y' all get into. That.

[Sierra]

That, baby, they've gotten crop. The crop tops have gotten way more crops.

[Leanne Morgan]

Oh, and the dancing.

[Sierra]

Oh, yeah, the dancing.

[Leanne Morgan]

And I do think travel, sports, keep kids off a dope, but. And my girls also played volleyball, so, like, I'll bring back stories from that, because I do. Like, I feel like I can be a little bit of a, you know, tell young girls what I did. Right. What I did. You know, And I like to tell those stories. But, yeah, I need to have some normal. I need to go to the zoo. Like, it's that kind of stuff that I get material from. On the second special I just dropped, I talked about going to the Claremont Lounge. Have y' all ever been there?

[Justin]

I have not had the pleasure.

[Leanne Morgan]

Don't go.

[Sierra]

He said, I have not had the.

[Leanne Morgan]

Pleasure as a heterosexual male. You won't.

[Justin]

It's not for me.

[Sierra]

Okay. And how short were those ceilings? And in there.

[Leanne Morgan]

Oh, people were dancing and holding onto the ceiling. It was. It. You know, I can't say what it really was. I don't want to say circus. It is a very niche, unusual thing. It's not when people go and see strippers like you see in the movies, and they're all beautiful, which I can imagine that would make me feel like I was sitting with. Was saved. But this is more of a. Like, there's an old woman that crashes, takes a beer can and. And smashes it with her body parts. It's that kind of thing. It's more. It's like performance art with prosthetics.

[Sierra]

Oh, no.

[Justin]

People have certain tastes there.

[Leanne Morgan]

I don't even know if you'd say that, because it's like, darling gay man, like to. I don't know why. I really don't know why. And then I said serial killers because, I mean, I saw men that never blinked and stood on the side of the bar that didn't look right through their eyes. Then it's like girls for bachelorettes that just want to have a good time and like yell at some little woman and throw a dollar at her. I'm telling y', all, it's the craziest thing I've ever seen in my life.

[Sierra]

And like by little women, we mean little women women.

[Leanne Morgan]

Like there might be little people there. I did not see any there.

[Nick]

They were just.

[Leanne Morgan]

I just made little frail 70 year old women.

[Sierra]

Oh my God.

[Leanne Morgan]

There was one that was 70. She had to have been 70. And then it's just, it's just all.

[Sierra]

So none of this inspired you to like maybe pick up a new hobby?

[Leanne Morgan]

No, I did say if times get bad, I, I could go and dance there. Because it's not about being young and pretty. Let me just say that it's for all walks of life, it's for interesting people. I guess I'm just trying to. Yeah, he's trying to, trying to be political.

[Justin]

Find a delicate way.

[Leanne Morgan]

But it's like, it's like a, like a vorism, like a bizarre.

[Justin]

Yeah.

[Sierra]

And how long did you spend a material. Yeah, how long did you spend been there that night?

[Leanne Morgan]

I think that was a couple hours.

[Sierra]

Oh, God.

[Leanne Morgan]

With the hair and makeup people from the movie.

[Macy]

Right.

[Leanne Morgan]

And they were all darling. And I mean, I don't, I'll never go back, but they said you'll get new material. And they were right. And Goldie Hawn's daughter in law, Meredith Hagner played our little sister. And she said Goldie Hawn goes every time, loves to go. The Claremont Lounge lady Gone goes beyond. I've heard her talk about it. I mean, it's like a historical thing. And they might climb, close it down. Somebody said it might be toward the end. So maybe y' all should go. You're.

[Sierra]

Well, maybe it won't be if you keep talking about it. You'll send people.

[Leanne Morgan]

Maybe they would move it to another basement.

[Sierra]

Yeah.

[Leanne Morgan]

If they're going to close it down at the Claremont, which is a hotel, real hotel, but stuff like that gives me material. Not. I mean, that's the only strip joint I've ever been to. But, you know, I got to experience something different.

[Sierra]

Yeah, that's true. So your second special Netflix. It's so good. It's so funny. It's so funny. Yeah, everybody go listen to it. Go watch it.

[Leanne Morgan]

It went number one.

[Sierra]

It's been sitting on top.

[Justin]

Yeah, it's been sitting on the top three forever. Staying power. That's really Matters, you know, like it. You know, you're a name. It pops. Everyone gives it a chance. Or like your. Your core audience. But for to sticker top top 10 for a whole week. I mean, top five is.

[Leanne Morgan]

Thank you, my darling. I really wasn't expecting that.

[Justin]

And then.

[Leanne Morgan]

But my television show stayed in the top 10 for 22 days. I never got to number one because I couldn't beat those hunting wives.

[Sierra]

Yeah.

[Leanne Morgan]

Killing those bores in their pants.

[Justin]

What do you watch when you aren't making tv?

[Leanne Morgan]

I tell you, you know, I've worked so hard lately that I really. For. I raised my children on Real Housewives, and my husband stayed so mad at me and would come home, we'd be laying out the bed, we watching people fight and cuss and they bleep out things and snatch wigs. And Chuck Morgan go, you're ruining the United States of America. Letting them watch this. Nene had been cussing and yelling, and.

[Sierra]

He'D be gritting his teeth.

[Leanne Morgan]

He'd be so mean. You're ruining the United. And I go, that's a heavy burden to put on me. But I loved it. And I would, like, hide it and do the remote and try to get out of the way.

[Sierra]

And then he'd press the back button on the remote to go back to.

[Leanne Morgan]

The last channel you were on, y' all. Gigolos. I was watching Real Housewives.

[Justin]

What city I love.

[Leanne Morgan]

I really want to go back.

[Justin]

And you keep up.

[Leanne Morgan]

I don't now. And I was on with Andy, and I felt terrible. He goes, what are you into now? And I was like, oh, Andy. Because I used to keep up with New Jersey, Atlanta, Beverly Hills. Loved all Orange county. That. All that. And I. But I just haven't kept up. But I've heard Salt Lake City.

[Justin]

Salt Lake City is incredible.

[Leanne Morgan]

I've heard that. It is incredible. And I need to go back and watch that.

[Justin]

That's material.

[Leanne Morgan]

I know. I've heard, like, Colbert talk about it.

[Sierra]

Yeah.

[Leanne Morgan]

And I thought, okay, I've got to go back and see that. People say you can't even. You don't even. Can't even imagine. Okay, but I also loved this Murdoch.

[Justin]

We're watching it. Are you caught up?

[Leanne Morgan]

Does it on Hulu?

[Justin]

We had the. The girl who played the. The journalist. We had her on like two weeks ago. Manny Matney, who Very fast.

[Natalie]

Fascinating.

[Sierra]

You know, does it frustrate you talking about. We don't say that in Tennessee or we don't. They say bow every other second.

[Leanne Morgan]

I don't like that. I've never heard that, but I wasn't raised in South Carolina. But all that B.O. gets on my nerves.

[Sierra]

It just feels like. I mean, I. A little bit, for sure. But every time I watch it, I'm like, oh, another one.

[Leanne Morgan]

I know. I thought that, too. I thought, this is getting on my last nerve. But.

[Sierra]

But it's good.

[Leanne Morgan]

Patricia Ar.

[Justin]

She was incredible. She's. I mean.

[Sierra]

And Jason Clark. Yeah, they both. Wow.

[Leanne Morgan]

That man that plays the daddy that also was in the la. About the LA Lakers. Did y' all watch that Showtime?

[Justin]

I didn't, but he's also in this new show called, like, the Last Frontier on. On Apple, which is kind of like a fun, like jailbreak. And he's like. He's like a detective. He's a good guy. He's like. It's wild. It's like the. The. The juxtaposition between, like, watching him and As a Murdoch and then washing him as, like, this U.S. marshal. Like this really righteous. It's great. He's an incredible actor.

[Leanne Morgan]

Unbelievable character. Okay, you've got to watch. And they didn't bring it back. I don't know if it cost too much money, but it was the story of Bussy. Jay Moore married the Bussy girl, but the man who owned the Lakers, it's his story. And then this actor plays Showtime or something. It was on hbo, I think.

[Justin]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Leanne Morgan]

And unbelievable about Magic Johnson and all that. And Jerry. He played Jerry west, the coach, that character actor. And unbelievable. And. Yeah. And I don't think they brought it back because I think I heard it was too expensive to make.

[Sierra]

Maybe that makes sense because it.

[Justin]

I know Magic Johnson was kind of mad about it.

[Leanne Morgan]

They want.

[Justin]

Yeah. Mad about it. Magic. You know, it's okay. Everyone. You know, that didn't happen that way. You know, everyone has a different version. It's made for. I'm sure you're sensitive about a story about your life that you weren't a part of.

[Leanne Morgan]

Honey. I can't. AI. My kids sent me today on Facebook that Chuck Morgan and Leanne have renewed their vows and it's some woman's cute body in a wedding dress, my head on it with Chuck Morgan. It's not his face. It's not Chuck's face there. And it's. Or it'll be my son crying. He wasn't crying. And it'll. It'll say, just crazy mess. I get that all the time. And I don't. And I want to say that's not true. It said Chuck Morgan did not buy Leanne diamonds. For his 60th birthday, he took her on a picnic and wrote her love letters. And it's got these two people that are not us on a blanket. And I thought, one, we cannot sit, crisscross applesauce. Chuck could get up on the ground. Two, he did buy me. He did do the diamonds on the ring. He does not write me a love letter. I would like to have that. But I thought, do I need to do a video? And you know how people do a video in front of something?

[Connor]

Yeah.

[Leanne Morgan]

That's not Chuck's teeth. You know, I get that kind of stuff. Yeah, but it's just on Facebook.

[Sierra]

Facebook is a famous. Every time.

[Leanne Morgan]

Anywhere else.

[Sierra]

No, Every time I get on Facebook, I'm always reading like somebody's dead. And I'm like, oh, my God, they are. And they're not. They're not.

[Leanne Morgan]

They're not. They're not.

[Sierra]

And all the comments are like, rest in peace. I loved him. And I. I'm like, how are all of y' all falling for this crazy.

[Justin]

Y' all getting catfished on Facebook.

[Sierra]

Everybody's getting catfished on Facebook.

[Justin]

Well, Leanne, it's really been a pleasure. Thank you for coming.

[Sierra]

Stay for supper.

[Leanne Morgan]

You angel. Honey, I would. Meatballs.

[Justin]

Please. Come back anytime you want to promote anything, you know.

[Leanne Morgan]

Well, thank you, my darling.

[Sierra]

Thank you.

[Leanne Morgan]

I feel very.

[Sierra]

Bring your daughter.

[Leanne Morgan]

Bring here.

[Sierra]

Bring Chuck.

[Leanne Morgan]

Let's do a double D. Chuck doesn't.

[Justin]

Talk much, but everybody says, I love not talking. Yeah, I knew it for a living, honestly, at dinner, I could just. Chuck and I can stare at each other and just.

[Leanne Morgan]

He uses at work, and then he doesn't talk at home.

[Sierra]

Yeah, that's him.

[Leanne Morgan]

But, yeah, I'm finding that I'm an introvert. I'm very extroverted. But I find I talk so much now in interviews and all that kind of stuff that I understand now. People, you know, needing their quiet time.

[Justin]

Close my eyes. Stare at a wall.

[Leanne Morgan]

Stare at a wall.

[Sierra]

What's your advice on getting Chuck to talk?

[Leanne Morgan]

Achilles surgery.

[Justin]

Okay.

[Leanne Morgan]

If he'll have surgery on something and then he's at home. Oh, then he talks too much, and I'm like, what are you saying to me? Yeah, but he. If he does not work, if he takes time off, he'll talk to me. But no, he really. I mean, I think. Think you're more of a talker than Chuck, probably. He's old.

[Justin]

But I do enjoy my quiet. I cannot talk with the best of them all, is all I'm saying.

[Sierra]

He could keep up with Chuck Morgan.

[Leanne Morgan]

Yeah. You've got a twinkle in your eye.

[Justin]

Oh, thank you.

[Sierra]

That is so true.

[Leanne Morgan]

You did so. Okay. Y' all are both beautiful.

[Sierra]

Thank you.

[Justin]

Come here.

[Leanne Morgan]

I would if I could if I had time. I'd put in a load of wash and make you a cash.

[Sierra]

Can you put our baby down for an hour?

[Leanne Morgan]

I could put that baby down, Angel. She's already had her snack. But y' all are darling. I. I hope that I was interesting enough. I mean, y' all are pretty hip.

[Sierra]

No, you. I could talk to you about what you had for lunch, and I would have fun.

[Justin]

Yeah, it's fun. Just kind of hanging out your special unspeakable things. It's rocking and rolling on Netflix. It's in its top 10. Be sure to check it out. It's the perfect holiday special. It's family friend friendly. It's fun. You'll laugh. Check it out. If you haven't already. I'm sure most people, most of you have, but if you haven't, check it out. Leanne, we love you.

[Leanne Morgan]

Thank you, my darling.

[Justin]

Thanks for coming.

[Leanne Morgan]

I love y'. All.

[Justin]

Oh, my God. All right, well, that'll wrap up today's episode. Thank you to our guest, Leanne Morgan and Charlie Manley. We appreciate you all. Make sure you all have a very happy Thanksgiving wherever you're spending it. Be safe. Love your friends, love your family, all that fun stuff. Stuff do not forget. Tomorrow is the part two of the very messy, very explosive interview with Jordan and Jesse. I sit down with Jordan to kick things off, and then the four of us come together to see how Jesse and Jordan may or may not move forward. That is all. Tomorrow on a part two, going deeper. You do not want to miss. Enjoy your holidays. Goodbye. Hey, guys, if you love what you listen to, make sure you hit that subscribe button below. Thanks for listening. We'll see you next time.