E1052 - Housewives Impressions and Hot Takes w/ Miguel Luciano, RHOBH, Southern Charm and Holiday Plans

Summary

The Viall Files – E1052: Housewives Impressions and Hot Takes w/ Miguel Luciano

Date: December 23, 2025
Host: Nick Viall with Natalie Joy, the Household, and guest Miguel Luciano

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Episode Overview

In this holiday-themed Reality Recap, Nick, Natalie, and the Viall Files household bring festive cheer with stories of gift-giving, lighthearted family banter, and rapid-fire reality TV recaps. The highlight of this episode is a visit from Miguel Luciano, whose viral Housewife impressions spark laughter and insightful discussion about Bravo fandom, Housewife dynamics, and reality TV culture. The squad dishes on this week’s Real Housewives of Beverly Hills, Southern Charm, and Salt Lake City, weaving in hot takes about body image, friendship, and the art of being an iconic Housewife.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Holiday Vibes & Gift-Giving Shenanigans

[03:08-10:54]

• The team shares their holiday plans and Secret Santa traditions, mixing jokes with relatable talk—such as the virtue (or not) of “thoughtless but expensive” gifts.
• Notable banter about “shared Notes app wish lists,” panic shopping, and luxurious vs. thoughtful presents. Natalie quips, “A very expensive, thoughtless Christmas.” [06:03]
• Cute affirmation about gift-giving: “She needs to feel absolutely important and taken care of. And expensive. Yes, I think she deserves it.” – Nick [08:21]

2. Secret Santa Fun with the Household

[11:10-16:12]

• The crew showcases thoughtful, under $50 gifts aided by Amazon’s AI assistant, Rufus. Each present (from Hairstory hair products to Packers onesies) sparks stories about listening, knowing each other’s quirks, and team love.
• “Everyone is such a good listener here. The communication here, the listening here… it was so easy to shop, obviously with Rufus!” – Natalie [15:07]
• Warm fuzzy energy as the crew reflects on giving, receiving, and what makes a “perfect” present.

3. Southern Charm Rapid Recap & Spicy Sex Talk

[20:14-24:26]

• Key plot: Madison’s unconventional parenting (“hopes her baby likes silicone-tasting breast milk”), Molly and Sally’s escalating drama, and a pool party full of tension.
• Detour into hot tub sex—realistic or not? “The trick is, you start in the hot tub, and then when you actually perform said act, you… are outside of the hot tub.” – Nick [21:38]
• Hilarious nostalgia about the various “top five places to have sex,” bonding over car escapades, kitchen adventures, and sandy mishaps [22:32-23:45].

4. Southern Charm: Body Gossip & Reality TV Culture Critique

[24:47-31:26]

• Vanita’s apology for a careless comment about Molly’s body sparks deep talk on surgery rumors, body image, and gossip.
• “[Another] woman's body shouldn’t be gossip. Another woman’s body is not a joke… not for judgment, ever. I’m owning my mistake and learning from it.” – Vanita (as quoted by the team) [25:15]
• Passionate exchange on bullying, beauty standards, and celebrities pressured to discuss their bodies. “We are bullying people into talking about the work they’ve had. It just seems really weird that we’ve gotten to this place.” – Nick [27:29]
• The group sides with privacy, self-acceptance, and letting people “do what they want.”

5. More Southern Charm: Friendship, Jealousy & Realness

[31:31-36:34]

• Audience is walked through Shep’s wild antics (George Washington wig, Speedo) and the ongoing Craig/Austin bromance drama: “Craig’s inability to admit any fault at all whatsoever is something of an Olympic sport to watch.” – Guest [34:17]
• Dissecting relationship FOMO, awkward breakups, and guys projecting feelings: “That’s also a really weird realization… when you’ve been in a long term relationship, and you’re starting to like, fall out of love, or like, you don’t understand what’s going on.” [36:12]

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Reality TV Headlines & Hot Gossip

RHOBH: Money, Marriage, and Manifestation

[45:44-47:56]

• The team “rapid recaps” the latest drama: matchmaking party mishaps, Dorit’s precarious finances, and the absence of practical advice.
• “All Dorit knows is she needs to decide the kind of rich woman she’s going to be—and that’s it.” – Natalie [45:54]
• Group pokes fun at “vibe-based financial advice,” calling out its magical thinking as Amanda encourages manifestation over spreadsheets.

RHOBH: Dating, Flirting & “Sex Energy”

[50:07-53:05]

• Hilarious breakdown of the awkward speed-dating event; Rachel Zoe’s fashion tips and Erica’s questionable flirting skills.
• “I thought that was a little bit of an act… Erica’s smooth even if she might have been nervous.” – Miguel [53:25]
• The crew asks: What does a guy “who looks like he loves sex” even look like? “Mauricio.” – Group answer [51:05]

Salt Lake City, Housewife Alliances & Audience Sympathy

[56:37-59:02]

• Miguel draws parallels between current SLC storylines and past Bravo “villain” editing, emphasizing fan empathy versus perpetual pile-ons: “The truth is really important until the punishment is worse than the crime, and then I don’t give a fuck about the truth.” [56:37]
• Nick agrees: “We watch for their imperfections... when we’re really beating down on someone... there’s a lack of grace.” [57:32]
• The cast debates: How accountable do Housewives need to be? Is the current ganging-up on Meredith fair?

Housewife Archetypes, Casting, and Future

[63:21-66:37]

• Miguel explains his personal “Housewife rubric”: “I need to be entertained by your personal story or your fighting. A great Housewife has both.” [63:21]
• Shoutouts to favorites: “Vicki Gunvalson... has a life outside the show. That’s the best kind of Housewife.” [66:23]
• Plug for bringing back Kim Richards, but only “if she’s feeling good.” [78:31]

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Miguel Luciano: Impressions & Industry Tea

[40:08-84:09]

How Miguel Became a Bravo Impression Sensation

[40:08-41:55]

• First Housewife to follow him was Mary Cosby: “Mary has known about me for about a year.” [41:07]
• Friendship with several Housewives, organic relationships: “I stayed at Marisol Patton’s house… had lunch with Meredith Marks... Bronwyn and I are very good friends." [42:12]

Favorite Housewives & Iconic Lines (in Character!)

• Spot-on demos: Mary Cosby (“Little girl. You need nutrients.” [40:14]), Meredith Marks, Dorit (“grabbing these melons!” [48:39]), and others.
• “Dorit on fire—I like when she’s across the table screaming at Kyle. I was living for it.” [49:30]
• Inside scoop on Housewife personalities: how the “real” Tamra is grounded, not at all like her TV persona [67:15].

Insight on Reality Fame, Editing, and Fandom

• Discusses impact of reality TV on relationships: “Those shows magnify things… sometimes when you see it on camera, you’re like, whoa… That’s probably why so many couples dissolve.” [43:49]
• Commentary on alliances, production, and “bullying off the show”: “The problem is, when four or five people say they won’t film with someone, it leaves production stuck.” [79:26]

Housewife Culture: Trends, Tropes & Standouts

• Comparison of Beverly Hills vs. Salt Lake City: “The Salt Lake City women are real friends—Beverly Hills, not so much. There’s always a gimmick for why they hang out.” [74:35]
• Miguel’s ideal new cast balance: more “real life,” less clique-ing, hinting at potential for Monica’s return and new dynamic duos [82:45-83:19].

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “If it’s the thought that counts—and I hear it does… really expensive gifts are a great alternative.” – Nick [05:17]
• “The trick is, you start in the hot tub, and then… you are outside of the hot tub.” – Nick [21:38]
• “We are bullying people into talking about the work they’ve had… It just seems really weird that we’ve gotten to this place.” – Nick [27:29]
• “I want these men to find love.” – Nick [36:32]
• “The truth is really important until the punishment is worse than the crime, and then I don’t give a fuck about the truth.” – Miguel [56:44]
• “You can’t play smart and stupid at the same time.” – Miguel [70:26]
• “A great Housewife has both… entertaining personal stories and epic fights.” – Miguel [63:40]
• “Vicki Gunvalson… The best Housewife is one who has a life outside of the show.” – Miguel [66:30]

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Gift-Giving Banter: 03:08–10:54
• Secret Santa Exchange: 11:10–16:12
• Southern Charm Recap & Sex Talk: 20:14–24:26
• Body Image, Rumors, and Bravo Culture: 24:47–31:26
• Housewife Alliances & Editing: 56:37–59:02
• Miguel Luciano Impressions/Main Interview: 40:08–84:15
• Notable Housewives Critique & Casting Talk: 63:21–66:37, 79:01–83:50

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Tone & Vibe

The episode is playful, candid, and brimming with Bravo fandom. The panel doesn’t shy away from real talk about body shaming, reality TV editing, and complicated friendships, yet keeps the conversation warm and humorous—with plenty of quotable zingers and a genuine feel of “chosen family” around the holidays.

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For New Listeners

This episode delivers warm holiday laughs, witty takes on the latest Bravo Housewives storylines, and infectious joy courtesy of Miguel Luciano’s impressions. It’s as much about friendship and authenticity as it is about dramatic TV. Whether you’re tuning in for relationship insights or deep dives into reality TV, you’ll walk away entertained, informed, and feeling a bit more holly-jolly.

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Find Miguel Luciano:

• Instagram: @theMiguelLuciano
• TikTok: @Miguel_Luciano

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Next up: Look for the next Monday’s episode for “juicy” relationship dilemmas and more reality recaps!

Transcript

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[B]

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[C]

You're crazy.

[B]

Wait, we're not recording. Oh, my God. I gotta pee.

[D]

Guys.

[A]

What'S going on, everybody? Welcome back to this magical holiday episode of the Vile Files reality recap edition. I am your host, Nick, joined by my glorious, stunning, sensational two dogs, Jeff and Steve.

[B]

Are they sitting on the couch?

[E]

They are.

[A]

Love of my life. Uh, how you doing?

[B]

I'm doing good. I'm. You know, we're in a winter wonderland. River's actually, like, enjoying the snow, which has been fun.

[A]

It has been. Sierra and Leia are joining us right now. We have the rest of the household standing by this episode as well. And a great episode for you, Miguel Luciano. You probably know him, if you follow Bravo at all. He's been making a name for himself, doing some hilarious impressions of some of your favorite housewives. And the impressions that we all love an impression. And even the housewives love these impressions.

[C]

Highest form of a compliment.

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So this is our. This is us trying to suck up to housewives.

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Yeah.

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Any way we can.

[A]

Any way we can. He joins us later. This episode. If you want to just have some fun laughs this holiday season, you will do so with Miguel Luciano. And then we have some great episodes, Southern Charm and Beverly Hills, which is this crushing. Their best premiere.

[B]

Oh, yeah. Real Housewives of Beverly Hills Season 15 return scores. Bravo's biggest season premiere on Peacock.

[A]

Leia literally read that to me eight minutes ago. Now she's like, oh, my God. Look what I found.

[B]

They're like, no, I told you I lagged.

[A]

What day of Hanukkah are we in, Leia, Where?

[B]

It's over.

[A]

It's over.

[B]

Last night. Yeah. My holiday season has continued.

[A]

Welcome back to work.

[B]

No, but it'll continue. I'll celebrate Christmas this year if we can continue the holiday season spirit.

[C]

Christmas.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

I love that sometimes they fall out.

[B]

At the same time. What did you get Danny for Christmas or Hanukkah?

[A]

What did you get any of Hanukkah?

[B]

Nothing. We're gonna get. She's got him.

[C]

A child.

[B]

Yeah.

[F]

Yeah.

[B]

We're gonna get massages. Okay. Do you.

[A]

Do you have a. Do they come to your house?

[C]

I've done that before, but I think I want to, like, go somewhere.

[E]

Yeah.

[B]

I hate when massage. I love you.

[A]

When they come to the house.

[B]

I don't. Then you got, like, river being like, hey, Mom. And the dogs are like, yeah. And then you hear?

[C]

Just.

[B]

It's just too much.

[C]

I like the whole spa experience.

[B]

I want to take a shower afterwards. Maybe a steam, like lotion. Yeah.

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Steam blow dry my hair. Because I can in there.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[A]

Guys, I'm happy. I'm happy to report that now he's got a couple of really magical gifts.

[B]

A couple.

[C]

Oh, you did it. You got.

[B]

You got the gifts. You went shopping.

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Listen, here's the thing.

[A]

If it's the thought that counts, and I hear it does. Does it, Natalie, I hear that really expensive gifts are a great alternative.

[C]

Also, not wrong. I've heard that, too. I've told my fiance a very well.

[B]

Thought out gift or a very expensive gift. Yeah, there's. What?

[C]

It talks.

[B]

That was a question.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Like, it's like both these gifts, almost zero thought.

[C]

But, you know, she wants them and would love them. I think that sometimes I think that that matters the most where I'm like, I appreciate, like, a well thought out gift, but, like, if you know your person, get them what they like.

[B]

Well, Natalie has a. Has a note.

[C]

You guys have a shared. A shared list, don't you?

[B]

A shared notes app.

[C]

You couldn't make. She couldn't make it easier for you.

[B]

How was it?

[A]

It was a very, very expensive, thoughtless Christmas.

[C]

I love that for you, Natalie.

[B]

Did you have to go in person to the store or did you order it online?

[A]

I went to the store and then had them ship one of the gifts here.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

And then the other one I brought with us because it was able to fit.

[C]

Oh, that's so exciting. Do you know what they are, Natalie?

[B]

I do. Yeah. Share it with the class. I would like to know.

[C]

He's like, do we have to wait?

[B]

It's in the notes app.

[C]

You said the ones that got checked.

[A]

Out, you know, both of them.

[B]

I can, like, guess for sure.

[A]

Are you. We every. Every happy.

[B]

I mean, one of them I've never seen in person, so, like, definitely excited. Well, both, I guess. I've never seen in person, but, like, excited to see in person, for sure. But I also get the notifications from the Amex, so. Oh, yes. All the purchases.

[A]

That's crazy. That's crazy.

[B]

I was like, oh, there he is.

[C]

Nick thinks he's sneaky.

[A]

Why am I even bothering having them hide and getting.

[B]

Nick, you could also probably also check that Amex and see what you got for Christmas. Or you could just wait.

[A]

I'm gonna start thinking about next year's gift tomorrow. Tomorrow.

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What's funny about that wish list is that it is truly like, the most random list. It's truly stuff for me to be like, you know how you go and you make you fill a cart and, like, that's usually the funnest part of online shopping. And that's what I do. I fill the cart, and then I'll just, like, copy and paste said cart into this, like, notes app. And then whenever I'm feeling it or birthday or Valentine's Day, it's like, oh, he can just dabble in. And so if he were to have thought of Christmas gifts maybe a little, like, two weeks in advance, he could have gotten the, like, the cashmere socks, the $60 sweatsuit, the, like, face lotion. You know, he could have really got off inexpensive.

[A]

But I. But I panic in last minute, and I will say I think my wife more than deserves these luxurious gifts.

[B]

I also think I deserve luxurious gifts.

[A]

She needs to feel.

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You have to advocate for yourself.

[A]

She needs to feel absolutely important and taking care of it and expensive. And, yes, I think she deserves it.

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Thank you.

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Diamonds are a girl's best friend. And designer purses.

[A]

Yeah, I. I couldn't. It's. I truly couldn't spend enough.

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Well, if that's the case, I have a couple more things.

[A]

Anyways.

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And yours is thoughtful.

[B]

Yours is exactly. His is thoughtful.

[A]

That's how she gets me.

[B]

And there's really nothing you can do when it's just like, I put so.

[A]

Much thought into this.

[B]

It's like, o. Yeah.

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Never loved anything more.

[A]

My mom. My mom made me a wind chime before I bought the lake house, and she. It was this big metal.

[B]

It was when you bought the house in la. Yeah, it was like a home. It was like a.

[A]

But it was this giant metal wind chime, and I just had no place.

[B]

To put it outside where it'll.

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It's in storage right now in la.

[C]

Did you act like you loved it when you got it, at least?

[A]

Not enough. Not enough.

[C]

Awesome.

[A]

Not giving all the thought that would end to it.

[B]

She was like, where's that wind chime? He was like, I think it's broken in the bottom of the closet somewhere. She was like, great. I didn't fill it with her hands for nothing. Months on that.

[C]

So you say go for the expensive.

[B]

But then all of Nick's other gifts are literally things he asked for, which is just like me listening, you know? He's like, oh, I could do that. And I could also love that you're.

[A]

An incredible wife, you know, an amazing mother. I do want to give a shout out to Madison lacroix who at Bravo con graciously gifted Natalie one of her pajamas. And I gotta say, I'm into them.

[C]

Super cute.

[A]

Super cute. Like, you know, listen, Natalie has, like, her comfy pajamas, and they're really. They're really comfy, I imagine.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Are these the stay away pajamas?

[A]

They're kind of stay away. They're kind of stay away.

[B]

That's his own personal. That's him projecting, you know.

[A]

Yeah, whatever. It's just a me thing. But Madison. Madison has these pajamas that look quite comfortable.

[B]

They are.

[A]

Yeah, they look really comfortable.

[B]

Very soft.

[A]

Like, she wears them a lot. And I gotta say, hot. Like, I'm like, do we. Do we not? I don't know. Is she comfortable? Is she like, is she into me? I don't know.

[B]

Does she want to take these off right now?

[A]

I don't. It's probably not.

[B]

Probably not.

[A]

But either way, she looks hot.

[B]

So I think that is normally the question. It's like just, do you want to take these off and then have to put them back on? And it's like, yeah. Nah. Yeah, that's the biggest decision to make. Shout out Madison.

[A]

Shout out Madison.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

Made some good jammies.

[C]

Board housewife.

[A]

Anyway, speaking of gift gifting, last week Natalie and I exchanged some Secret Santa gifts, and the rest of the household also exchanged some Secret Santa gifts thanks to Amazon. So we're going to show you what the rest of the household got each other for Secret Santa. Up next.

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Very wholesome. Very cute.

[A]

All right, it's part three of celebrating the holidays with the household, brought to you by Amazon. Week one, we decorated the studio. Week two, we did a secret Santa, starting with Nelly and I exchanging gifts, because, of course, we drew each other's names.

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Lucky out of a hat.

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Now we have Sierra, Mary, and Justin to exchange theirs. As a reminder, these are all gifts under $50 that we found thanks to the helpful Amazon's AI shopping assistant. And if you are struggling this holiday season to find the perfect gift at any budget for any person, know that Rufus has your back. All right, who. Who's starting?

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I want to say I probably won this round of Secret Santa, by the way, because I'm so good at doing it.

[A]

Okay.

[C]

Okay.

[A]

You're so good at asking. Asking Rufus.

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I was going to say I think I nailed it. So who's gonna go first?

[E]

I say Mary.

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Okay.

[B]

Mary.

[F]

Okay, let's see who got me.

[B]

It was me.

[D]

Okay.

[C]

Oh, cute.

[E]

Wait, is that her story?

[C]

Yes.

[E]

I've been wanting that for so long.

[F]

Hairstory is really good. Hairstory. My My stylist has been telling me about Hairstory for forever. And I told Sierra, well, you have.

[C]

To thank Rufus because I forgot what the name of it was, but I pulled your name and I was like, Mary was telling me about her hairstylist using this product. So I was like, rufus, what is the best conditioner but cleanser? That is what they gave me. And I was like, I believe this sounds exactly like the name of what Mary suggested and was talking about, but I hope I got it.

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Yeah.

[C]

Was it the one?

[F]

It is the one.

[C]

Thank you. It's the one, baby girl.

[A]

Now you can stop wearing a hat to work.

[B]

Oh, wait, so you don't have to use a shampoo with this one.

[F]

When I go get my hair cut and my hairstylist Sarah Shout out Sarah will like use this product on me and my hair always is like. So it's like not frizzy. The texture is beautiful. Like it really just like lets my hair breathe and like actually have like its normal like you know, style and wave and whatever. I'm always chasing that feeling. And then she finally started posting about what she was using and it was hair story. And I was like, well, let me try this. And I told Sierra about it and look at that.

[E]

I'm kind of impressed by Rufus because like I feel like there's so many different like hair products you can buy. And like I've seen this one. Like this is a specific one.

[B]

This is smart.

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Yeah.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

We said the best new wash. Only the best for our Mary.

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Thank you.

[A]

Who's next?

[F]

It smells nice too.

[C]

Wait, who did you.

[B]

Did you get Mary?

[F]

I got Justin. Okay.

[B]

Justin.

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Justin.

[E]

Oh wait.

[B]

I didn't know they still make.

[E]

Okay, wait, Mary, explain what this is and why you got it. This is exactly like on point for me.

[F]

Okay, so basically this is an Amazon TV fire stick. And it is because do you know how many times Justin and I are having a conversation and I'm like, have you seen this movie? And he goes, no. And I'm sick of the excuse. And he's like, well, I don't have like other streamers available to me at once. Like I don't have Amazon prime video. And I'm like, well, we need to change that.

[E]

And my fire stick broke like.

[F]

Yeah.

[E]

After having it for years the other week. And I'm so sad.

[A]

Very smart.

[E]

She's, she's. I love my tv, but you know, sometimes you need a fire stick to like give it a little booze.

[F]

Yeah, you should watch Happiest Season on Amazon Prime.

[E]

I watch all the Christmas holiday movies on this.

[B]

I don't know Paul Justin. He is booked and busy.

[A]

Very, very thoughtful Mare.

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He's on D and D. All right, I got Sierra. And let me preface. So Sierra and I always talk about, like, skincare, like, self care, and she's like a bathaholic. And I love scents and perfumes and feeling confident. Please tell everybody what I got you.

[C]

You got me Cycler, vanilla Verve rich body cream and perfume oil. In fact, this is under 50.

[E]

And, like, picture this. Like, you always take your. Wait, she got two under 50 options.

[A]

Making me look bad.

[B]

I don't know if y' all remember last week, she got a. I got a lip gloss.

[E]

I will say road lip gloss.

[F]

Not cheap.

[C]

She's not cheap.

[F]

She's not cheap.

[B]

Anyways, you know what I'm learning about our team, about the household, is that everyone is such good listeners. You know, like, the communication here, the listening here. It's like we all know so much about what the other person loves that it was, like, so easy to shop for, obviously, with the help of Rufus, but, like.

[F]

But we also do all know and love each other very much.

[A]

Well, I think that will wrap up, actually.

[C]

Oh. Oh.

[F]

It's not surprise. We, the household, also got gifts for Nick and Ali.

[B]

Well, what is it?

[A]

Is this it? Is it? This is for us.

[B]

It's a joint presentation.

[A]

Oh, my God. A packer.

[C]

Oh, my God.

[F]

Onesie.

[B]

It's for both of you. I got gloves and a hat.

[A]

Oh, my God.

[F]

It's basically. This is for each of you to wear the packers onesie.

[A]

I'm absolutely. Thank you, guys. Now this is a gift.

[B]

Yeah, it's perfect for you. Do you feel like you're gonna use it with your heating pad?

[C]

It's giving cozy NFL day. You know what I mean?

[F]

It is.

[C]

Turn on that fireplace.

[F]

The game, the.

[C]

The heating pad, the onesie.

[A]

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[A]

Style Every Home Southern Charm okay Southern Charm.

[B]

We have a rapid recap. If you missed the most recent episode, love the Real Housewives of Southern Charm. Madison hopes her baby like silicone tasting breast milk. Mrs. Pat has no desire to ever give birth again and she also doesn't think anyone should have sex in a hot tub. Craig hangs out with his assistant to plan his pool party. He's making pina coladas because Charlie likes them. Shep apologized to Austin and wants to be a better friend to him. Craig has not done so. Vanita thinks Sally is enabling Craig's behavior. Molly is good at singing, she's in the studio. Sally is getting chickens because Craig says she should get chickens. Craig feels bad he snapped at Austin, but he does think Austin is jealous of him being single. Whitner wouldn't throw a pool party on a Wednesday because he's an adult. Molly and Sally are mad at each other. Vanita was spreading rumors about Molly's vagina, but they talk it out and they're cool. Molly is not cool with Sally knowing about it, though. She kind of pops off on her and says she needs therapy. Sally wants Vanita to let her live. And by live, she means Craig. Shep wears a George Washington wig and a Speedo. He is not eating like the Real Housewives of Salt Lake City. However, Madison gives a big sis talk to Craig about his drinking. He's back in therapy, so that's a good sign. And they have Kona ice at the party. Then Craig is talking about Sally and says, what happens in the hot tub stays in the hot tub. Which is interesting to say the least. Overall, has anyone ever banged in a hot tub?

[E]

No.

[F]

No, not in a hot tub.

[E]

It's not realistic.

[A]

Not impossible.

[F]

Not impossible. But is it ideal?

[C]

No.

[E]

Well, it depends what you're doing.

[A]

Well, the trick is you start in the hot tub, and then when you actually perform said act, you. You actually are outside of the hot tub.

[F]

Okay.

[A]

Like, half in, half out.

[C]

Okay.

[F]

Like in Showgirls.

[A]

Well, no, in Showgirls. I know exactly what you're talking about.

[F]

That's all. I think.

[A]

Iconic, cool sex scene. Oh, it's amazing. They're in the pool.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So they're going around inside the P and the V in the W. Yeah. While the P and the V are in and out. Are in and out. No, but you got to take the P and the V out of the W. Yeah.

[B]

And onto the dry land.

[A]

On the. Onto dry land.

[B]

Onto dry land.

[F]

Makes you wonders how dolphins do it.

[C]

Dude, the imagery that just popped into my head. Yeah.

[E]

What's the W? Water.

[D]

Oh, yeah.

[E]

I was like, what part is that one?

[A]

Well, you also just like, what. What. What are your. What are the top five places to have sex?

[B]

I mean, bed is number one.

[E]

I think the car is hot. But that might be just that I'm young or.

[A]

I honestly haven't done the car since.

[E]

Well, I think you grow out of it.

[B]

Yeah. Just like, you know, we actually, like, have maybe a house to go to.

[E]

A room.

[F]

Yeah.

[B]

I feel like the car was when you were like, mom's at home. You know, you have nowhere to go.

[E]

You don't have to school. You have roommates.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's definitely A college thing or high.

[B]

School, if you were in high school. I mean, teach their own, I guess.

[A]

My second time ever was in a car.

[B]

So is mine in the back of a truck.

[E]

And think of the cringy part. Think of how long you were.

[A]

Not long at all. Not. Not long at all.

[F]

No, that's why you had the truck.

[E]

Not duration.

[A]

But yeah, it was, like, real quick.

[B]

Yeah, a little.

[A]

That's it. Car. Car.

[E]

A lot of people do it on the beach.

[F]

No.

[B]

Beach is sandy. I think.

[F]

Shower's fun.

[B]

Shower's fun.

[F]

Little moment in the kitchen on vacation on the lake.

[C]

I was like, I don't know. I'm on vacation because I feel like vacation. It kind of is.

[B]

Right?

[C]

Because it's like, when you get to, like, the hotel room, you're gonna, like. It could happen there. It could happen here. Like, I'm like, there's something that's a little bit more exciting about vacation sex. I'm sorry.

[A]

Kitchen table.

[F]

Kitchen. That's what I was gonna say.

[E]

I won't be eating at your house.

[C]

I mean, she said, I won't be.

[B]

Eating at your house.

[F]

Yeah, that's the thing.

[E]

You.

[F]

You just can never tell anyone.

[C]

Right? Yeah.

[B]

Yeah. Anyways, so I feel like the overall.

[A]

Anyways. Dinner at our place. Yeah. I'm cooking and hot tub.

[F]

I'm busy at night.

[E]

Whenever I did go to your house and we had dim sum at the bar or the. The island, not the table.

[A]

So then that's too high.

[B]

Exactly.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

The bar's too high.

[E]

The island.

[C]

The island.

[A]

Well, I mean, I guess you could get on.

[E]

You'd have to lift.

[C]

There's enough surface space.

[A]

Like, no one's, like, lying on the kitchen table.

[B]

But then I feel like that's hurting. Like bones, you know, it's like marble. You're like, ow. You know, it's not giving, like, comfy. Anyways, I feel like the, like, biggest thing that came from this episode was the Molly, Sally, Vanita bit of drama, which Vanita has posted.

[E]

What does she.

[A]

What did she say? She's issued a statement.

[C]

Vanita posted.

[B]

Hi.

[C]

I want to take a moment and talk about last night's episode. I made a careless comment about Molly. No matter the context, the comment was not my place to share. I understand that I did apologize right away. And if that apology came across as too casual, I think it was because I didn't want to draw more attention to a situation where she may have already felt uncomfortable or exposed. I've apologized to Molly privately since then and will continue to take Responsibility for that moment and for what followed. I said something in a conversation with.

[B]

A friend and on TV in front of cameras.

[C]

The something said turned into something which made another woman feel embarrassed or uncomfortable. That was never my intention. But I also know that intention does not erase the impact. Molly deserved better in that moment. And I am thankful for the grace that Molly gave me. I also want to be clear about this. Another woman's body shouldn't be gossip. Another woman's body is not a joke. Another woman's body is not for judgment, ever. I'm owning my mistake and learning from it. I hope that you all can too.

[B]

It was a great.

[A]

Can we be all inclusive? Is it. Or is it just the women?

[F]

Yeah, I think it's just the women for this case.

[A]

Yeah, I will say I do find it. And just in general, specifically more for the ladies though. But like, yeah, I mean, there is this growing sentiment over the past, I don't know how many years. So much so that you see people, you even see medical professionals online. My least favorite one. I think it's the most intrusive and biggest cringe when you see medical professionals having like TikTok pages or Instagram pages. Guessing.

[B]

Guessing.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

What kind of plastic surgery, you know, people or other celebrities have based off of their quote unquote expert advice, which is.

[B]

And it's always like before and it's like a photo of them at 17 and after, a photo of them at 37. Like they've done all of this work.

[C]

It's like.

[B]

Or maybe they grew up.

[A]

One of my favorite. They play this a lot. All the time. Tom Brady. I'm not Tom Brady. Tom Brady played in the NFL for 20 years and they, you know, every year they take like a, like a shot, like a headshot, you know, for the team, a team shot. So like there have been times, like at the end of his career, they would like, you know, like a rapid fire showed every single picture of all the 20 years. And it just like how much Tom Brady changed. Changes just as a man who's over, you know, went from a 21 year old to a 45 year old playing football. Like we just grow, evolve and change. This is all to say, like, yeah, like then I'm sure people have speculated and I'm sure Tom is, you know, freshened up a little bit here or there. But like, yeah, it's like when women get breast augmentations or whatever it is, I understand there's a sentiment about like, you know, unrealistic beauty standards. But like I feel like, we've gone way past that where it's just, like, we are bullying people into, like, talking about, like, work they've had on their bodies. It just seems, like, really weird that we've gotten to this place in. In our culture that we. We force people to talk about whatever work they've gotten done.

[F]

I think it's also, like, there's a difference. I think it's two different conversations as far as, like, unrealistic beauty standards. And then also the way people are so weird about work, work everyone's getting done. Like, I think that those are two kind of different things to me. And obviously they're like. It's a Venn diagram and they're linked and, like, they go into each other. But people get, quote, unquote, elective surgeries for so many different reasons. And at the end of the day, it's no one's fucking business.

[B]

But also, like, I remember last season when Sally and Molly were, like, getting together, and I think Molly was talking about how she was getting her boobs redone or something, and Molly, like, opened up about how she had, like, fat transfer done to her boobs. And, like, she opened up about that whole process. And so it's like, if she wanted to talk about her other operation on camera, she probably would have done it then. But it's clear that this was, like, not something. We also don't have the conversation between Vanita and Molly where Molly's telling her about said procedure, and then, like, the flashbacks of Vanita and Sally talking about it, and it's like, who paid for that?

[C]

That's what I don't like about it, where I'm just, like, taking it too far. Was like, this salacious background of, like, oh, Molly couldn't have gotten this herself. She's a model. She's works. She's who? You don't know her finances, so it's like, why do you automatically assume that it has to come from a sugar daddy? And all of, like. And you're adding all of this extra salacious information when she told you what she had done.

[B]

Right.

[A]

Maybe she just played the oboe for someone and they found her music to be beautiful.

[E]

And they.

[B]

She was like, I paid for it out of my account ex in 2019.

[A]

Also, there's this weird thing that, like, we're only talking about this because of the area in which the surgery was performed. Which, yeah, I guess we've all kind of decided is like, whoa, that's too far. But literally, what's the difference between below the waist and above the waist. Like, why? Why? Why? I know anyone's body is like, that. Fair game. Yeah. Where you, like, you are forced to tell people, like, what work you've done or else almost.

[C]

I was gonna say my inquisitive nature generally comes from, like, just sheer jealousy. Like, where I'm like. When somebody, like, reveals something where it's like, you clearly got like, a new face or something, and I'm like, oh, my God. Well, what is it like?

[F]

Yeah.

[C]

My curiosity comes from. Yeah. Just sheer jealousy where I'm like, I don't know. Maybe in 10 years if I want that. Like, I would like to know what to ask.

[A]

Curious and wonder and listen. Not too long ago, Kylie Jenner, right. She, like, famously, like, gave out the. The recipe.

[B]

Yep.

[A]

The cocktail playbook. And, like, a lot of people appreciated that, and she was comfortable doing that, and that was awesome. And people want to do that. I think that's amazing. People feel comfortable sharing and want to share to help other people out. But the way people go online and speculate and literally create rumors about people and then in some cases, bully them into thinking they need to say something is weird.

[F]

Well, it's just. It's crazy to me, because what happens is basically. And this is kind of. That. I guess I'm going back on my point before. Of, like, it is kind of linked. Of just, like, everyone loves to critique people's bodies and people's appearances, regardless of gender or whatever. And then it's like, you get to a point that you're so insecure of that, that you're like, all right, let me, like, let me do what I need to do in order to, like, feel okay about myself. And then you do that, and everyone's like, shame on you for having to do that. You should have just been, like, the way that I wanted you to look originally. And it's such, like, a selfish act back to think that somebody needs to look or present, like, the way that you think that they should and then be mad when they do it.

[C]

I don't. Right.

[F]

It's just like, let people live. Let Molly do what she wants.

[A]

Because honestly, like, I'm gonna. I'm gonna get a daddy makeover on my 50th birthday. This is really all about, like, when I get my abs inserted into my stomach. I just want you guys to mind your business.

[B]

Yes, of course.

[A]

And I will. Yeah. Insert biceps. Yeah.

[C]

When you insert biceps. Crazy.

[B]

I did love Molly's, like, clap at Sally, where she's like, you are mean.

[C]

You are an.

[B]

You need Therapy. I was like, okay, Molly.

[C]

Yeah, I was here for it. Because I was also, like, that moment at the end where I'm like, obviously, Vanita, Southern charm. The whole thing where she's leaving and she, like, Craig comes to say goodbye. That I am like, of course, as a Southern woman, you're gonna have manners. You're not gonna be like, thanks for inviting me to your house. Fucking jerk. Bye. So she, like, goes and, like, gives him a kiss. And then Sally's like, oh, so I.

[A]

Can'T talk to him, but you can kiss him good on the cheek.

[C]

I was like, shut the fuck up. And Vanita's response was perfect. You are doing the most right now.

[F]

Yeah. Like, I'm team. I'm team Molly and Vanita all the way through. In general, I feel I would really.

[A]

Like, if you're listening, Craig, to be invited. I would like to go to Craig's backyard. It looks lovely.

[F]

It does.

[A]

It really.

[B]

I think it definitely. After Madison pointed out it's missing the feminine. The pool noodles coming out of the, like, water fountains, I was like, what was that weird? I don't know, but it does.

[A]

Craig built that to fuck.

[C]

Built that to fuck. Yes.

[A]

Yeah. The backyard.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure.

[C]

So it sounded like something finally happened, though.

[A]

But it does seem like a good time. I bet there's, like, some, you know, bags or cornhole. Whatever. Whatever you want to call it. There's a pool, there's a barbecue.

[C]

There's a bee farm.

[B]

I don't understand why Chef Prep pulled out the wig and speedo, you know, like, some things he kind of looked like.

[F]

What is it like, he. Man from. What was that game?

[C]

It was giving, like, Will Ferrell in, like, Old School.

[F]

Will Ferrell or Will Ferrell on that one SNL sketch where he has, like, the speedo on.

[C]

It's just, like, reliving days that, like, maybe we don't need to be that person.

[A]

Will Ferrell from Old School is a. Apparently pretty. I feel like, good comp for Shep.

[F]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah. Austin started following me this morning. Wow. He's been following me for years, but he doesn't acknowledge.

[C]

Yeah. We said Team Austin in this whole. In this whole debacle. Yeah, I did, for sure.

[B]

Oh, yeah. When he. When Craig.

[A]

I've been following Austin, I think, for.

[F]

A bit, so I'm Team Austin this season. But also, I get it. Like, I get, like, if both of them. I would be pissed. I'm Team Austin in general, but I.

[A]

Want them to be friend. I don't like, like, I'm not.

[B]

Oh, sure, yeah.

[F]

Yeah.

[A]

I'm not, like, triggered by any of them. I mean, well.

[C]

And Craig was on Watch what happens live, and he said that him and Austin's relationship is a lot better since the breakup with Audrey, as he predicted it would be. Yeah.

[A]

So Craig's opinion, which he is entitled to have, is wild.

[C]

Craig's inability to admit any fault at all whatsoever is something of an Olympic sport to watch.

[A]

But, like, even if you're right about Austin, that's a huge leap. And, like, you're really making it about. Like, he's jealous that you like, that he can't go in a hot tub because you're single. And, like, that is. You know, that for certain. Everything about his motivation is sent around you being single.

[C]

Austin's not coming to this party because he knows he started the fight between us. And I was like, that's a while.

[B]

But the conversation at the coffee after cat shopping was very much Austin being like, I'm jealous. I have fomo. Like, the girls aren't gonna hit on me if I'm wearing this outfit versus that outfit. And it was definitely giving. Like, I don't want to be in a relationship. And you are having so much fun with all these girls in your hot tub.

[A]

Like, I guess, maybe, maybe. Maybe Craig's right. Even if he's right, I guess it's just kind of a leap.

[C]

It was like, two things can be true that I'm like, Austin could be jealous of wanting of, like, Craig's single life, but that also doesn't mean that he had any intention of, like, breaking up with Audrey at any point in time. So I'm like, to bring up some rumor about him fucking girls in New.

[A]

York or that every action that Austin makes is centered around this perceived jealousy. He could be a slightly. Oh, it looks like a lot of fun, man. As a. You know, and it's not necessarily motivating him to backstabbing his best friend.

[C]

Right, right. Or wanting to get out of a relationship with his girlfriend at that point. So I'm just kind of like, I think that. That Craig's taking it a step further because he's sensitive about the comments and the jokes and whatnot. But I'm like. Like, if someone tells you something in confidence, like, you don't throw it in their face later on.

[A]

Probably has more to do with his girlfriend than it does with Greg.

[C]

What does Austin's.

[A]

Oh, yeah, he doesn't like her.

[C]

There's that, you know, that probably has.

[A]

A lot to do with it.

[F]

I think he's probably just projecting a lot of that onto, like, Craig.

[C]

But also, like, that's also a really weird realization to come to sometimes when you've been in a long term relationship and you're starting to, like, fall out of love or like, you don't really understand what's going on. You're kind of like, oh, like, you're so sweet and you're so great. Like, why am I not into this? Like, maybe Austin's just in, like, a awkward growing pains of, like, growing out of the relationship that he's in.

[A]

I want these men to find love.

[C]

Well, they found it with each other.

[F]

Speaking of, so Brooks Nader was on Watch what Happens Live. And Andy asked, should the audience. Should Craig and Brooks date?

[C]

This was humiliating.

[F]

And everyone said no. And then Brooks said, I don't know who he is.

[C]

It was like an 82.

[B]

But then she was like, I do. She was like, my hair stylist also does Paige's hair.

[C]

So.

[B]

So I feel like maybe she does know a little something about it. And maybe she was just saying, like, I don't know him like that she.

[C]

Was doing the Kiki Palmer, like, I'm sorry, I'm sorry.

[F]

I do not know this man. Mariah Carey. I don't know her.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

I will not be dating a man.

[B]

Did you see the clip I sent you from Watch what Happens Live last night?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Yeah. A friend of ours, Channing, she was in the audience and she asked a question to. She ended up asking it to Brooks. But in the beginning, she's talking to Erica and she's like, and Erica, I did meet you at Bootsy Bella's, and you. I know that you do not care for me, and that is okay, so. But she's like, Erica's like, how do you know I do not care for you? It was like the most Channing and Erica moment ever. It was very funny. So I'm glad she got her moment.

[E]

Erica did this to someone else at Bravicon. What was the housewife where she was like, it was Angie. Angie K. And she was like, you don't look good in that green.

[C]

Oh, yeah.

[E]

And they got confronted after. And she's like, I don't hate Angie, by the way. Like, I just thought she didn't look good in the green.

[C]

She was asked about Luann Della subs. And she was just like, no, I don't care for her.

[E]

No.

[C]

They just like, there was like something like a Where do you and Luann stand today? And she just said, no.

[A]

All right. Well, up next, get ready to laugh for some amazing housewife impressions with our guest, Miguel Luciano. Our favorite part of the holidays is spending time with our family. From baking cookies, decorating the house, and walking around the neighborhood, everyone seems to be in the holiday spirit. And there's nothing that gets us in the spirit more than a Starbucks holiday beverage.

[B]

Now that we have River, I'm really trying to create memories and traditions that she will carry on throughout her life and something that I'm really loving doing. We did it last year and obviously we're going to do it again this year, but it's going to Starbucks. Getting a holiday drink and then driving through the neighborhoods and like looking at all the Christmas lights on all the houses and seeing all the houses decorated and like the blowups in everyone's front yard and like sipping on our warm, hot.

[A]

I look forward to that holiday drink. Also. Back in my sales days when I worked from home, I'd always go to a Starbucks and work because I wanted to get out of the house. And definitely during the holiday season, I get my peppermint mocha and you just kind of see people coming in, like, different. You kind of feel the holiday energy with people coming in during Christmas time. It was always really enjoyable. I really had to get out of the house when I was stuck at home working.

[B]

Well, the peppermint mocha is a Starbucks signature espresso. Combined with steamed milk, mocha sauce and peppermint flavored syrup is topped with whipped cream and dark chocolate curls. What more could you ask for? Delicious.

[A]

It's honestly how I learned to drink coffee. This was my first Starbucks coffee.

[F]

Peppermint mocha. Yeah, we used to, when I worked there, we would put ristretto shots in it and we would like, mod it a bit.

[A]

Well, it was a white chocolate mocha. And then during the holiday season, I transferred over to the peppermint.

[B]

There's no better feeling than when the cups turn red at Starbucks.

[F]

I know.

[B]

That is so true. Another favorite of mine is the caramel brulee latte. That one is so good.

[C]

Yeah, that's my favorite.

[B]

The caramel brulee is Starbucks signature espresso. It's topped with whipped cream and caramel brulee topping. Rediscover the little moments of joy that make the holidays brighter at Starbucks. Step into the warmth of the season with a visit to Starbucks, where every sip makes the holidays feel a little bit more special.

[A]

Well, don't forget, together is the best place to be. Connect over your holiday favorites at Starbucks. Miguel, welcome to the show.

[D]

Thank you for having me.

[A]

Thanks for coming.

[B]

We're so excited.

[D]

Happy to be here.

[B]

Listen, Mary's favorite is our favorite Mary Cosby.

[D]

Little girl.

[B]

Little girl.

[D]

You need nutrients. You need nutrients.

[B]

You have her facial expression down, like the blinking.

[D]

You know, I just love that she sort of chops up her words sometimes. Like, I like that. I'm a fan of when she does that, she dies. There's times where she sort of slices it, and other times where she just goes off on a tangent. She's gonna let you have it.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

So true. Both of them cutting up is good.

[A]

Well, if you haven't figured it out, we found Miguel because he does some iconic impressions of your favorite housewives, including the iconic Mary Crosby, which you ran into at Bravo. Connor here.

[D]

Yes. Well, first of all, Mary was the first housewife to follow me on Instagram or TikTok.

[B]

Oh, wow.

[D]

So she has.

[A]

She paved the way.

[D]

She did. She really did. And it was, like, I think, a month into me doing impersonation. So that was like the.

[B]

Had you done her yet?

[D]

Yeah, I had done, like, several of her. Like, Mary Cosby as, like, a babysitter. Mary Cosby as a kindergarten teacher. I had just done Mary as, like, things.

[B]

Yes.

[D]

And so, yeah, so Mary has known about me for about a year.

[C]

But you're Meredith Marks, quite frankly.

[D]

I really appreciate you saying that, because some of the ladies are trying to ice me out. Some particularly. I'm not entirely sure why they would be doing that, but I appreciate you. I really appreciate you. Because some of these ladies are trying to pretend as if, though I am some sort of big villain on a plane. I'm not entirely sure it's the lack of eye contact. No. And it's just sort of the way.

[B]

People not look at your face.

[D]

The head roll. I really appreciate. And. And she's also obsessed with it, too. Like, Meredith has the best sense of humor. She's really into it.

[F]

That's my girl.

[A]

How many housewives follow you now?

[D]

Who.

[A]

Who is.

[D]

It's a. It's a significant amount, I'm very lucky to say.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

Multiples from every two dozen, maybe. I don't know. Wow.

[E]

Yeah.

[D]

A little bit around there. Yeah.

[B]

And are we on, like, a DM level? Is it like a. Oh, I love this one or. This one was good.

[D]

Yeah. I mean, I'm. I'm very lucky to actually be friends with some of them. Like Maris. I stayed at Marisol Patton's house for about a week in Miami.

[C]

I saw you were shopping on Rodeo With Bronwyn?

[D]

Yes. Bronwyn and I have become very, very good friends. She's amazing. Meredith and I have had lunch a couple times. So, yeah, I'm very lucky to say that it's kind of evolved into organic friendships. But I've been obsessed with.

[A]

They don't have lunch with me.

[B]

They don't have.

[D]

Well, you gotta come have lunch with me first.

[B]

Yeah, yeah.

[D]

You need to get the Miguel treatment.

[A]

Can we have.

[D]

Yeah, of course. So, yeah, have lunch with me first, and then I'll, you know, give you the Miguel treatment.

[B]

Yeah, we'll. Like, he's cool.

[D]

Yeah, exactly.

[A]

I'm like, they're gonna be like, no. Who having lunch with? They're gonna be like, well, Nick, too. They're like, oh, something came on.

[D]

No, no, no.

[C]

Something came up. Yeah.

[D]

I have a tendency to bring out everyone's best sides.

[A]

Have you met Todd?

[D]

I have. I. FaceTime Todd. Like, we.

[F]

He.

[D]

We have spoken through FaceTime, and he's really nice.

[A]

That's all I hear. I hear nothing but good things in the wild about Todd.

[D]

Yeah. I mean, look, my perspective of it is that he's one of those husbands that does not want to be on the show. Like, he hates the show. He hates film. I mean, I can only imagine how difficult that must be if you're married to someone who wants to be on a show and you don't. Right.

[B]

How shocked were you to find out this separation?

[D]

I mean, my friends call me the angel of Breakups. I think everyone should break up. So I'm never surprised by anything. Exactly. Yeah, exactly. No, I'm actually a third wheel for laying black. Yeah, exactly. No, I'm actually a third wheel all the time. So I don't really believe that. But I do believe, like, nothing surprises me is what I'm trying to get at. Like, I think I'm more surprised that people stay together for that long. When people tell me they've been together 15 years, I'm like, 15 years? It's a long time.

[E]

Sure.

[D]

Yeah, exactly. So. So I don't know. Nothing surprises me, really.

[C]

Okay.

[D]

Especially. And I think people have spoken about it in the housewife world. Those shows kind of magnify things for people. And I think sometimes when you're in it, you can't really see it. And then when you see it on camera, you're like, oh, wow. Not saying that that's what happened with them, but I think in general, that's probably the common denominator as to why. Why so many couples sort of dissolve on television. Is because you're seeing yourself in hd.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Yeah. And you're also getting a lot of outsiders opinions that. Yeah, I feel like maybe can get into your own head possibly.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

You're like, I don't deserve him.

[B]

He did eat my cherry off my plate and I did want that.

[D]

Yeah. Yeah. When you see it, like, in front of you versus, like, having the experience inside of you.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

It's very different.

[C]

Well, it's already tough enough to have a relationship and have, like, friends, have input. I couldn't imagine having millions of strangers commenting being like, you should divorce tomorrow.

[D]

Yeah. I was rewatching. I was on a flight yesterday from New York, so I was rewatching New Salt Lake City because they only had the season five on the plane and they really. They got on her pretty quickly.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

Salt Lake City spent no time commenting on her relationship. Like, very little. So.

[C]

And then they ended it with one foot on the grave, one on and a banana peel.

[A]

It's always so weird.

[D]

That's the meanest thing I've ever heard in house, by the way.

[B]

Right.

[D]

I don't think any meaner.

[A]

I always thought it was weird when they, like, came for her about the prenup or the lack thereof. And I would have thought they would have been like, no prenup.

[C]

Good for you.

[A]

You don't even have a prenup.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Why?

[D]

Well, the Salt Lake City ladies in particular, those that have had an issue with Bronwyn, they have been like. They have. And this is my opinion, even before I became friends with Bronwyn, they were pretty committed to misunderstanding her from the get. Like, Heather was clear that she did not.

[C]

No new friends.

[D]

Yes, of course she didn't fuck with her from the beginning. Yeah, she did not fuck with her from the beginning. So she was ready to just, like, do the thing. That's my opinion. But yeah.

[B]

Well, we have the Real Housewives of Beverly Hills.

[D]

Yes.

[B]

We have a rapid recap for those of you who missed the most recent episode. Baby Bows is hosting a matchmaking event for all of the women. Everyone shows up wearing black, unplanned. Rachel Zo won the biggest flirt award at a day camp when she was a kid. Erica does not know how to flirt and has zero game off stage. Sutton is trying to be more dominant in life. Dorit doesn't know the difference between the west and the east side of LA because she lives in the Valley, but all of the men are into her, regardless of the side of town she lives on. Kyle wants to get married again. She was in fact, in love after mo and it didn't work out. And she says she could go for Brad or Angelina. Dorit's kids did in fact go to Florida. Let's go. Amanda manifested her man and her family because she's a boss like that. She teaches people about money only based on Vibes. Sutton is considering changing her last name back to Brown after the annulment. Kyle hopes that Alexia doesn't have to go through what she did with pk. And Dorit didn't have a prenup and she just found out that he stopped paying for things. There's also no retirement account that Dorit knows of. She's basically on her own. Don't worry, because Amanda is there for Vibe based financial advice. All Dorit knows she needs to do is decide the kind of rich woman she's going to be and that's it. That was a little bit of like I was on Boza's side where it's like I was waiting on like, one plus one equals some actual financial advice.

[C]

Yeah. Not like, okay, set your intention. Think clearly. Really visualize. See yourself there.

[B]

And what provider do you want to be?

[C]

It's.

[B]

It's like just one.

[C]

Just a.

[B]

Just a provider, you know?

[D]

Yeah. When. When we're trying to figure out how to pay for the mortgage and for ballet, we're not really manifesting. We're not really in the place to set long term goals.

[C]

Right.

[D]

Even though I get that, like, at some point you do have to have like a structure for your life. It's more just like, how are we gonna. He's. He's not paying the mortgage anymore.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

So how are we gonna pay the mortgage this month?

[B]

Yeah. Like, I need some advice.

[C]

I thought it was gonna be like a startup or like, here's how we get into business.

[F]

Here's some good investors you can reach out to.

[D]

But. But in. What's that girl's name? Amanda.

[B]

Amanda.

[D]

In Amanda's defense, she doesn't claim to be like Susie Orman.

[A]

She.

[D]

She's exactly who she says she is. A money manifestor.

[B]

That's true.

[D]

She's not saying, like, to just. Yeah. She's saying, I'm gonna help you manifest it and create it and, and. And think of it into existence, which I do believe works. So I think as much as I saw Bose's perspective, I think Bose was setting her up a little bit. Bose is a genius.

[C]

Yes.

[D]

Bose is a lot of things, but dumb. She is not. Right. So. And I like Bose, by the way. That was not Shade I'm just saying I like her. But for her to be like, why don't you tell her what she should do? When Bose has already done her research on her and knows that she does manifestation and more of empowerment. Was that was she was trying to make her look dumb.

[A]

Do we do a dorit impression?

[D]

Yes, absolutely. But my favorite dorit is the one where she's sort of emotional looking at you because she has the version where she calls you a stupid bitch. Well, stupid, but I'm not saying that on.

[C]

You could say stupid.

[D]

But I absolutely love the version of her where she's looking at you. And I love this season. She did it a lot last episode where she has her hands out and she's sort of grabbing these melons.

[B]

Oh, yes.

[D]

Feeling the melons at the grocery store, Kyle. So, yeah, I'm a big fan. Dori was great at BravoCon. She could not have been more of a doll.

[C]

Your video of doing the babies baby, it was like, identical.

[A]

I think I would like to. I would buy a dorit Kong. Oh, listening. Like reading.

[B]

Oh, like a nighttime story.

[D]

Goodnight moon. Like her. What's that? Children's book.

[F]

Good night moon.

[D]

Yeah, yeah. Like her reading Goody moon or the giving trait by Shel Silverstein. Yeah, the cat in the hat. I would read that too. She's such a doll. And I really love dorit on fire.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

Like I'm gonna say, do you remember that Cara Radwell said about Dorinda when she's bad, she's so good. I'm gonna kind of have to put dorit Kemsley in that category.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

I kind of loved when she. And I really like that, like, across.

[B]

The table, screaming at Kyle.

[D]

I was living for it. Because the bottom line is that dorit and Kyle do not like each other. They've never liked each other. That's why it was easy for this to dissolve, because they were both like, okay, we both have no fucks left to give. Our.

[F]

Our.

[D]

Our families are imploding. We're becoming new women after a certain amount of time being with certain kinds of partners. Fuck this. Fuck you. Fuck everybody. And that's why I love when Dreet's said, I'm fed up.

[F]

Y.

[D]

Because she was done. She wasn't just done with counsel. She was done with all of it. But, yeah, I mean, I like a dorit on fire.

[F]

You like a dorit smoking a cigarette.

[C]

Down in the canyon.

[D]

Down the canyon, Absolutely.

[B]

What did we think of the men that Bose pulled from her contact list?

[D]

I actually thought they Were pretty good. I thought they were solid choices. Sometimes they set these guys up and they make them look stupid, which is always embarrassing. Right? Like some of the guys, they used to have on OG Rony to like, date Ramona. And I was like, oh, no, don't do this, you shady, sneaky, sneaky people. But they were all pretty. Even the comedian. Not saying even, like, you know, Venture, but like, comedians as general rule. I mean, I guess I work at comedy, so I don't ever want to talk to comedians. I'm like, leave. Put them far away from me. But just because you don't want to be like, doctors don't want to date doctor, whatever. But he was great. He was like, kind of handsome and he had like a cool, laid back thing going. He was like, funny without trying too hard.

[A]

He's like, I think we're talking about sex.

[D]

Yeah. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Like, I was like, I was kind of into him. I thought they were all pretty strong. Wrong.

[B]

Yeah, I agree. I felt like Sebastian was definitely like, of course. The, like Australian tall. The winner.

[A]

Question for the ladies. Kyle is looking for a guy who looks like he loves sex. What's that look like?

[C]

Mauricio? Yeah. Ex husband.

[D]

I mean, I thought that was kind of a problematic. Not problematic, but I think it could lead you to some danger. I want to date a guy who looks like he wants sex. Okay. Fucking open your door and go outside.

[A]

Well, she did just leave Mo's bachelor pad last episode.

[B]

Yeah, she was like, I'm feeling inspired.

[A]

And that house looks like someone likes sex.

[D]

Yeah. I don't know.

[A]

Anything with a view. Really?

[F]

Anything? No art on the wall. Just like maybe a headboard.

[A]

Just an LA skyline in a pool.

[E]

In a hot tub.

[B]

I don't know his name. He was the little lawyer and he was the one who was like, all women, like, cold. All white women, like Coldplay.

[D]

He was that guy. Wait, I'm sorry. That guy was. Was horrible.

[C]

Horrible.

[D]

He was horrible. I already blocked him out of my mind. He was horrible. Yeah, he was pretty bad.

[C]

My favorite was my queen, Rachel Zoe, giving advice, saying, like, you just want to look like you just threw yourself together. Like, you didn't, like, take time to pull an outfit. She's wearing the most amazing outfit.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

She's like, you don't want to look like you took three hours to get ready. I'm like, you all look like you took three hours.

[B]

And then she's like, I'm gonna wear my sunglasses.

[E]

My first.

[D]

You know, I'm really Digging Rachel Zoe.

[B]

Me, too.

[D]

I'm really, really. I was not sure how that was gonna be a fit, but I could almost, like, say I would watch a show of just her. Like, I would watch her just, like, move around the world and buy things at the grocery store. And I'm into her. I think she's watching.

[C]

Did you watch the Rachel Zo show?

[D]

I mean, I did back in the day, but she's changed. Still got it. I was assuming that she's evolved. You know what I'm saying? Like, you never.

[C]

In the nicest way.

[D]

Yeah, yeah. In the nicest way. Like, she's gotta be different. She has to be. She's gone through a divorce, she has kids, yada, yada.

[A]

And she looks. Sounds like she likes to fucking, boy.

[D]

Yeah, she does. You know, that's exactly right. She should go to, um, and University.

[A]

Of Miami and find who looks like he likes to have sex.

[D]

Yeah, I think they all are. That looks like a pretty horny cast.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I love how Erica was like, I'm gonna be a good friend and give you his business card.

[C]

Sutton.

[B]

I'm like, okay. But he didn't give Sutton his business card. So when Sutton calls, he's gonna be like, hey, Erica.

[D]

Yeah, yeah, that. You know, it doesn't really work that way. It's not like Monopoly where you can get, you know, like a board game where you can offer some of your own goods to the next person. Person. I mean, mind you, since most men just want sex, apparently, I guess you'll be fine.

[A]

But I think Erica is an introvert, so I believe that she is. Can be awkward, but I don't believe she can't flirt.

[D]

I thought that was a little bit of an act.

[F]

You did.

[D]

I thought. I felt a little bit of.

[A]

She knows what she's doing.

[D]

Erica's. Yeah, Erica's smooth even. I believe that she might have been nervous, but I don't believe that she doesn't have gay.

[A]

I know. I know.

[C]

Erica.

[A]

She knows how to work with her awkwardness.

[D]

Yes. I think she could have easily made it a thing. I think maybe she just wasn't in the mood to. Which is, hey, there are certain times where you're just not in the mood to play.

[B]

And also, if she's, like, been fucking allegedly Jesse Solomon, then it's like she comes into this party and it's like a bunch of old lawyers.

[D]

Yeah. When you've been there.

[C]

Also, watch what happens live. She did say that she's been dating the man she's been seeing for the last Six months. So she probably was still in, like, quiet times and, like, not ready to, like, announce that she was dating him. So she's probably like, that's a good point. There's nothing here for me.

[B]

Did she give any insight site?

[C]

I think he was an old bodyguard. He was a bodyguard for somebody, but he's. His nickname is Shrek. But, like, he's actually a very attractive man. Yeah, he's a big, muscly man. Yeah, exactly.

[B]

What, to go from Tom Gerardi to Shrek? I mean.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

I mean, she was like, you could just call. I think his name is John or something, but it's like Andy was like, so you and Shrek. He's like, you can call him John.

[B]

You don't need to refer to him.

[C]

His street name.

[B]

No.

[D]

You bringing up Tom Girardi. I just had, like, a flashback of him at dinner with Vanderpump and, like, how I actually thought him and Vanderpump were kind of hot together. Like, Ken was like, the cuck just watching them. Right.

[A]

And.

[D]

And he was like, you're a formidable opponent, Vanderpump. She's like, you really think so, darling? And they were kind of, like, flirting with each other intellectually. And Erica and, you know, Ken are like, well, we're just here.

[A]

I don't know.

[D]

Like, I thought. I kind of hope that if, like, you know, if we let Tom Girardi out, give LVP a crack at that.

[B]

He's 86. Right. And then he has six more years or something.

[D]

It's just a number. And Vanderpump is immortal, darling.

[B]

That is true.

[D]

She's eternal. I feel like in 30 years, Vanderpump will look better than she did today.

[C]

So true.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

She looks great on the new reboot.

[C]

Yep.

[A]

Well, that lighting.

[D]

The lighting is great. Whatever it is, she looks good. I was like. And I missed her on camera. Like, I missed. I missed her on tv.

[C]

But there is something about Lisa Vanderpump where it's like, you first see her on tv, and then it's like the next time you see her, she somehow ages backwards.

[D]

And I'm into that.

[F]

Yeah.

[D]

And I'm not into aging backward in general. Like, I'm cool with people getting older. Like, I love it, but for her, for some reason, because it's an accent.

[C]

It's the tacky.

[D]

She's an entity.

[C]

Yes.

[D]

Yeah. There's something sort of ethereal about her.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

Yeah. What other impressions do we have? Do we have. Do we do a Kyle?

[D]

No, I. I kind of did a Little bit of a Kyle. But I love when she's sort of the lip smacking. Have you noticed that? And I kind of love that when she gets angry, she gets like an underbell. Like, you don't get it.

[C]

Dorit.

[D]

Have you noticed that?

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

Who did you just recently deconstruct at BravoCon?

[D]

Katie Janela.

[C]

Katie Janela was your new one.

[D]

Katie Janela. Because she sort of does a head nod and she squints the eyes and. Well, I apologize. And it's just sort of like a very subtle thing here.

[C]

What was so amazing about that video is he's standing next to Katie, and while he's explaining Katie to her, she's doing it. She, like, cocks her head to the side, she squints, she goes, oh, my God, I'm doing it right now.

[D]

She's been a really great sport too. I. I think she got a raw deal. I mean, you know, I think what happened to Katie, I'm going to be controversial.

[C]

Ooh, do it.

[D]

Because I'm very PC on my page. But, you know, we're on the Vile Files. We're allowed to fuck around. I think Meredith is getting the same Katie Janela treatment, and it's backfiring on everyone else like they thought they were going to win by making Katie look. What I have learned about Housewives fans, or at least myself as a housewife fan, is that the truth is really important until the punishment is worse than the crime, and then I don't give a fuck about the truth.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So whether Shannon Beador. Very Shannon Beador.

[D]

Ye. Well, what do you mean?

[B]

The DUI and the DUI over response.

[A]

Everyone trying to, like, break her down.

[D]

Exactly.

[E]

Right.

[A]

We really immediately felt bad for.

[D]

Yeah. Because you're on her episode after episode after episode. Like, it's brutal.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

I. Yeah. What she did is horrible. No one should be drinking and driving. Completely agree. But I mean, after a certain point, someone's crying in front of you. How much are you going to berate them?

[A]

Because, like, you know, I think what makes Housewives and Bravo Universe so, like, fun to watch is you. You have these. These imperfect characters.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

And we. We watch it for their imperfections. And I think, you know, we all have. We all have our flaws. We. We have our secrets, we have moments, our tough moments. So, yeah, like, when we're. When we're really beaten down on someone, not to mention all. All of the wives, they've all been into some drama. I mean, not that, like, they've all had DUIs, but it's like there's a lack of. When there's a lack of grace. Yeah.

[D]

It's hard to watch empathy. And when it's that consistent when the beat down is episode after episode. So what happened to Katie obviously made Katie look amazing, in my opinion. And it made the other girls look fucking horrible.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

I wrote yesterday on my Instagram that I'm with Meredith on this and people were like, controversial. I'm like, what is there? What's controversial about this? Meredith obviously popped off on the plane. She got pissed. Obviously she did. They were all probably fucking hungover from their trip. They were flying early as and she wasn't having it. But there are so many plot holes in everyone's story. And Heather coming back with the desire to take her down. So clear. It's like it. Yes. Meredith does not like Britney. That's clear. No one really likes Britney. And I'm not saying that I. I don't dislike her. I'm just saying on the cast, they all take turns beating the shit out of her. They just decided, this seems like a good time to take.

[A]

But it isn't really frustrating, though, when you have a friend. Friend or a peer that just will never give an inch in accountability or just owning anything that can be.

[D]

You're talking about Meredith.

[A]

Yeah, it's just like, you're not gonna. Any. You're just not. You're just gonna pretend it didn't happen.

[D]

You haven't had Meredith on the show.

[F]

Not post airplane, not this season.

[D]

I'm a Meredith enthusiast. So you're. It's also.

[F]

As am I.

[D]

My mom is a Sagittarius. I understand that. I'm a saga tag. So I. I get it. I'm like, yeah, I'm never. You're never gonna. But I get what you're saying.

[B]

What did you think of Britney trademarking high body count hair?

[D]

I thought kind of whack. But like, not the. Not like to create like a. I mean, I guess it's a funny, petty storyline, which I love a petty storyline. But I. Who cares? Let the girl have a coin. I mean, you know, I don't know.

[B]

Like, do you feel like Angie should have trademarked it or is Brittany like you call her? Yeah, Yeah.

[D]

I think if Britney was the one who was insulted with this trademark, fuck it. I'm gonna take it and spin it. Look, I mean, a bunch of people have done things like that. Remember when Rinna got called the biggest bully in Hollywood? She was sort of like reclaiming. I was like, I'm a bully. And Tamara Was like, I'm a cyber hacker. Like, I think it's great to, like, you're gonna call me shit. I'm gonna step on top of it and rise to the top with it.

[A]

So how much do you think Brittany paid? Probably around 4 to $5,000 to trademark that.

[D]

That's kind of cheap.

[B]

I wonder how. Yeah, I wonder how much.

[D]

What is she gonna do with. With it? It's an insult. So, like, it's gonna say, do you want high body count hair? Try this new hairspray called the Britney High. Like, what does one do with it?

[C]

Put it on a sweatshirt.

[A]

Get a snowflake.

[D]

At this point, I mean, just give the damn girl a snowflake. They're. They're featuring her as much, and they're also really dogging on her. It's hard to watch them.

[B]

She's collectively, she's full cast. I mean, like.

[D]

But I guess it just makes sense financially.

[A]

I think she's having a really strong season.

[D]

She's definitely having a stronger season than last season.

[C]

The one thing you can say about Britney, though, any season, is that, like, she will not let you forget that she is there.

[B]

So.

[D]

Yeah, yeah.

[A]

Just not as dumb as the women portray her to be.

[D]

Yeah, she. It's all an act.

[A]

She's smart. She's definitely like a, A theater kid. And she leans into that.

[D]

She has an angle that she's playing. I don't think she's dumb at all. I think that she's. She's.

[B]

Ella was my favorite.

[D]

Who called her that again?

[F]

Angie.

[D]

Angie.

[A]

She's writing these down.

[D]

What a journey Angie has had.

[B]

I love her.

[D]

She was really nice in person too. She was really, really good.

[A]

She was love. I met her in Bravo Con. She was lovely.

[D]

Yeah, she's. She's great. I, I like the whole cast. I really do. I'm just a big Salt Lake City fan. I have to say, this season is not my. Is not my favorite, really. I'm. I'm obsessed with, like, rewatching. Last season, I was like, Last season was pretty perfect.

[B]

Interesting.

[A]

It was great. I, I, I really do you watch.

[B]

All franchises or you not all of them?

[D]

I watch Beverly Hills, Atlanta, Salt Lake.

[C]

City, Miami, of course.

[D]

Miami, of course. Do you guys cover Miami?

[F]

Yes, we do.

[D]

Oh, my God, how iconic it was last. I thought last season was so good.

[F]

It was amazing.

[A]

What was it?

[D]

Do you know that when she. I cried on my couch alone. Do you miss this friendship or the sweet pussy? You cried? I had to pause, rewind. And Adriana has a Little bit of the Ramona eyes and the. She's like, do you miss this friendship or this sweet pussy? This sweet, sweet pussy. I cried. And then them cutting to Alexia going, like. Because Alexia is such a flirt that even just the idea of other people having sex is, like, exciting to her. When she was backstage, she was like, I can't wait to go. Go back. I really. I've never wanted to go back so badly at a reunion. I have a lot of questions, and if you let Alexia host the second part of the reunion, she'd be like, okay, so who kissed who? Did you kiss her neck or what happened? I just want to know, because, you know what? Did you have to move her hair back? I think it's super hot, Just so you know. I mean, Alexia would have had a ball, like, dissecting it, and Marisol's just like, I can't.

[C]

I really can't.

[D]

I can't, I can't.

[C]

What was the gift she got the Haitian?

[B]

A coffee maker.

[D]

A coffee maker for the Haitian mortician. Did you see the panel?

[E]

Oh, my God. It was embarrassing. It was iconic, but embarrassing. She was, like, Haitian mortish.

[D]

It was really hard to watch Justin. It was like, we were in the audience, and we really thought, like, she. I mean, however chaotic it looked on the live stream, was worse in person.

[E]

Really.

[D]

It was a thousand times worse.

[E]

She tried to get the crowd to rally and chant Haitian more. Tish. And it's silent.

[D]

And. And the weirdest part is that I'm actually like, obviously, I'm a stand for the bros. I ride for the bros. Alexa. Marisol. I can't Abuel. I need a cock. I mean, I'm there. It's my world. I. But I like Adriana on the show. I really do. I like her. I find her very funny. I find her very entertaining. I find her very charming. Here's my rule for a good housewife. Are you ready?

[C]

Yes.

[D]

And I don't think anyone's had this rubric, but I think we should patent it. Like, or trademark it. Like, high body counter. Here's two things I need from a housewife. I need at least one of them. Doesn't need to be both. I need to watch. I need to be entertained by your personal story, like, your scenes at home or with your friends or family. Or I need to enjoy you fighting. Yeah, one of those two. A great house life has both.

[A]

Yeah, yeah.

[D]

Like, I like watching Marisol at home with Steve, and I like watching Marisol, you know, get in, get into it. I like Alexia Scenes with Frankie. And I like Alexia telling her, no, because you're a fucking Chihuahua. I'm a rottweiler. Like, I'm into that. Adriana. I kind of. I haven't seen any personal life scenes in a while, so I'd have to go back to that. Right. But watching her in confrontation is entertaining.

[C]

Oh, yes.

[B]

Yeah, it's good.

[D]

It's just good stuff.

[C]

How did you think Stephanie shout for her first season?

[D]

I thought the first half was rough because it was just so narrow. But then she really came into her own, and I really. I gotta say, I fuck with Stephanie Shoji. I fuck with Stephanie Shoji. And then I met her at BravoCon, and she couldn't have been fucking nicer. So I was like, okay, now we ride at dawn for Stephanie Shoji. But she. By the end of the second season, I really was like, she stepped into her own, and I really thought she had an amazing season. And she's rich and she's. And she's very.

[C]

She's real rich.

[D]

She's real rich. And she's very specific to herself, which I really like in a housewife. I like housewives that are all, like, one's more different than the next.

[C]

I love a personal style too, like where it's like, we're in Erica, like, where it's just like, you could see the back of her and, you know, it's Erica.

[D]

Totally. I agree with that. Yeah. She has a great silhouette. And, like, we are totally aware that that's her thing.

[C]

The bright colors, the suits, the.

[D]

And she's changing. I don't know if you noticed that more some of her more recent posts. Stephanie Shoji's wearing a little bit more. She's going a little edgier, which I like because I'm not into. I'm not into, like, like Chanel tweed. That's just on my speed. But I like that she's kind of, like, wearing more extensions now. She's playing. She took some notes from the audience calling her, you know, elder, and she's. And she's playing with it.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So you don't do Potomac.

[D]

I mean, I saw it when it came out. I have to get back into it.

[A]

It's good.

[D]

I know. I heard it's really good. And I, I, I'm. I mean, I love the Karen Huger. I love her, and I feel like.

[B]

He could do a good Stacy.

[D]

I met her at BravoCon, and I like that she's. She. I mean, I have to give her a little bit more attention, but she sort of Has a. A thing where she, like, looks at you very intently and sort of over enunciates certain words. I think, from what I remember, am I doing a sort of the right thing for her? I think, yes.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

And I really haven't even seen any of her episodes, but just from the little clips on qvc, her Q.

[F]

Talk about length.

[D]

Talking about length. She's really. And very stunning in person.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Yes. Legs slegs.

[A]

Stunning on tv, too.

[D]

Yeah. Really? What a. And I love. I love a housewife that tickles Andy, and Andy's tickled by her, which is so fun because, I mean, sometimes you find that Andy has, like, such a large awareness of what works. So when you hear, like, one of the things that does work, you're like, oh, that's fun. Okay, now we know. So, yeah, I think he's tickled by her, which is really fun to kind of know.

[B]

Are you excited for Vicky to come.

[D]

Back to OC Beyond?

[A]

I know.

[D]

I'm a huge Vicky fan. Like, I want to watch her personal scenes, and I want to watch her in confrontation.

[C]

Yes, yes.

[D]

And I think she's got such a full life, and the best housewife is a housewife that has a life outside of the show. And that's Vicki Gomilson.

[A]

She certainly does. She's got that insurance that she's been honored for.

[D]

Yes. And she just. Did you see that video recently of her makeup artist? Her sort of berating her makeup artist because she doesn't have life insurance. The. The makeup artist is doing her makeup, and she's like, what do you mean you don't have. You don't have a life insurance? You've got five kids. And she's like, letting her have it. I'm like, oh, my God, it's so good. But I love Vicky. Yeah. I'm a Vicky fan. And I'm a Tamara Stan, too. Are we Tamra Stans in this house?

[B]

We like Tamra. We like Tamra. We struggle with Tamra because we've had her on. I've been at social events with her. I think she's such a great human that when I watch her on the show, I'm like, yeah, it is.

[C]

It's not you.

[D]

Yeah, there's a big disparity, for sure. Because in person, she's awesome. Yeah, she is. And I have to say, out of all of the housewives I've actually met and hung up out with, she's one of the ones that actually asks you questions about yourself. She's like, so where's your Family from where do they live?

[A]

Tamara is like very in person. Down to earth.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

Very easy to talk to. Completely pretentious or stand up.

[D]

Not self absorbed. Like, I'm telling you, one of the housewives that actually like. Wait, so do you have nieces or nephews? I feel like you posted about that. Like, she's was incredibly connected, so I don't know what that means. I mean, yeah, I don't. I agree that watching her on the show is kind of shocking then when you. You know. But some of these women will drive you to drink, so I get it.

[B]

It's true.

[D]

But nothing ever beats Basilique.

[C]

Is it about the guy that she was dating and sitting on the lap and all that stuff?

[D]

I'm pretty sure that was that same thing. Yeah.

[C]

Okay.

[F]

Okay.

[D]

But, yeah, huge. Tamra, Stan and I'm excited for the season.

[A]

And do we like Amanda?

[D]

I don't dislike her. I think she's a little young for my taste. I like older housewives. I want them to be in their mid-40s. 40s. I do. She looks like she's in her mid-30s. And she kind of acts like it too.

[C]

I think she is 40, but.

[D]

So I would like her to be 45 at least.

[B]

I'd like her to age five years.

[D]

Yeah, I do. I like older housewives. I. I really, really do. I think that's the greatest thing about housewives.

[A]

She doesn't seem intimidated by her peers, which I love. And she seems like. She seems. She just has a messy look. Yeah. And I don't mean, like, her. Her look. No, you.

[D]

Messy meaning, like, she'll. She'll instigate and she'll get in the message.

[A]

She's unafraid.

[D]

She's.

[F]

She'll get in there.

[A]

She really will get in there.

[D]

Which Beverly H. Desperately needs, because that show runs the risk of pantygate for nine seasons all the time. So that's why Rinna and I said this to Rinna. And when Rinna mentioned me on her podcast, she called me Luigi. She was like, there's this great comedian named Luigi. And Luigi, I'm like, okay. But I love Rinna. So we're Rinna fans here. But I told Rinna, I was like, you looked crazy on your show because no one does shit. If you threw Rinna on Salt Lake City, Rinna would look like a fucking fly on the wall. You put next to Rinna, Angie and Lisa Barlow fighting. Come on. You're gonna tell me Rena's gonna look crazy?

[B]

It is sometimes hard to watch Salt Lake City and Beverly Hills at the same time. Because you're like, oh, God, wow. The Salt Lake City.

[A]

I mean, the pacing, so different.

[B]

Constant fights and makeup and fights and fights and this and that. And then Beverly Hills is like the one. It's like a little tiny.

[A]

It took us two and a half seasons to kind of mention Kyle's relationship with Morgan.

[D]

Meanwhile, Bronwyn and Whitney are both Whitney's like, I would love to go down on a girl or anyone. And she didn't say that, but I'm.

[A]

Just saying, like, she's basically.

[D]

And you know what? Right, right, right. So I think that would be great if we could sort of have some fun with some new people. Right. I'm totally open to that. And meanwhile, it's taking Kyle. Yeah. Ten seasons to go. I. There's another.

[A]

There's a person.

[D]

Person. And they have a heart. And I feel for her. I'm not mocking her. I really feel for her. Cause that's fucking hard to be a straight woman most of your life and then three kids and a divorce later go, maybe I'd like something else. I honor that.

[B]

And then to have all these women, like, pressuring you to talk about it constantly. Okay.

[F]

But then she did do a music video with Morgan where they made out the music video. That' one thing that I'm like, it was acting, but, like, she knew.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

You can't play smart and stupid at the same time.

[F]

Yeah.

[D]

You can't play naive and. And. And.

[F]

And then get matching tattoos like on the show.

[D]

I think that's my. That's exactly it. That's what I think people had a hard time with. You're either completely reserved and it's totally new terrain for you and you don't want to talk about it, or. And then you don't do a music video where you're, like, half. Almost, like, kissing someone.

[A]

Do you feel in any anyway about Bravo and about that?

[D]

What do you mean?

[A]

Well, I. It's just that, like, I think that's generally a frustration I think most Bravo fans have in general. It's just like, decide, like, I think when we talk about these people on tv, we want to be respectful in terms of, like, what'd you put on tv? What you put on your social. Like, that's. I guess that's what's fair game for us to, like, talk, have some fun. And then things that they, you know, want to keep private, they're personalized. You know, it's like, we'd rather not with that, you know, but, like, brawan's kind of like, I don't. My family's off limits. My marriage is off limits. I don't want to talk about that. Todd doesn't like it. But then she'll be like, bringing up Todd but not wearing my ring. Like, it's like, where are we? Is it fair game? Is it not fair game? Do you not want your peers to talk about it? Like, do you want to stay away from your relationship? It's like, it's very Kyle Richards where it's like, it's. It's. It's just really hard to really have a take on it because you feel kind of icky, prying and probing on a topic. They simultaneously act uncomfortable talking about and act as if people are violating their privacy. But then every once in a while bring it up and you're like, what the.

[D]

Like, yeah, I get that perspective. I think the harder the thing. The more tricky thing with Salt Lake City is that when you give any of those women an inch, they take a mile. And then they act like the authority on it. Whereas on Beverly Hills, I don't think anyone sort of Bose is the only one. Bose and Garcelle sort of instigated more conversations. But on Salt Lake City, you give anyone anything, and they're gonna jump to making this now everyone's storyline. And now we're making it a whole group conversation, and we're gonna take it and make it fact. Like, I forgot what the exact wording was, but someone misspoke on what Bronwyn said about Todd, but they said it as if it were fact. I wish I could remember at this moment. But they were like, yeah, but you said you told him to move out. Yeah, and she's like, no, I told him to leave for a couple days. So that's the problem. It's not just like, we're talking about some things that you've mentioned. They take it, and now it's like, twist it. They twist it, and it becomes gospel. And then if you say, I didn't say that. They're like, yeah, but you mentioned it. Okay, but I didn't say that.

[C]

And are we gonna act like you didn't mention it?

[D]

Exactly.

[F]

Okay.

[D]

And saying that you ask someone to stay, to not stay at the house for a night or two is different than we're not together. Like, so Salt Lake City women get really deliciously messy. But if you're in it, it's hard because you're. We're not on the same page because you're not saying the same things that.

[B]

I Just said, well, the ring thing was confusing because she was like, yeah, I'm not wearing my ring. I took it off. And then she's like, well, I don't always wear my ring. I wear different jewelry all the time.

[E]

Not wearing your ring is kind of.

[A]

A big deal, short of you being like, I forgot to put it on today.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[D]

I don't know. I mean, I have.

[A]

But saying I. I deliberately took this off because we are on bad terms is like. It's a strange.

[C]

Yeah, it's a statement.

[D]

But again, with those kinds of women, you don't want to tell them shit, which is the hard part. And you know what I think, to answer your question of, like, what's different with Bronwyn and whatever is that I think that Bronwyn is a lot more naturally forthcoming with these women, and I think wants to create these relationships. But I Then. But then you get bitten by it. So I think she has these moments of vulnerability where she's like, I want to share with you guys.

[A]

She's feeling it out.

[D]

Yeah. I want to connect to you guys in these moments. Because when the Salt Lake City ladies have fun, they have a lot of fun. And when they're good, they're really good. So I think you end up falling the risk of, like, I want to connect with you and I want to share with you. But then they flip the switch and they. They almost, like, spin it and use it as, like, accusatory, you know, like. And they almost weaponize what you told them. So I think that's why, if I were Bronner, I'd be like, fuck you guys. I'm not telling you shit anymore. Because in those sweet moments where we do connect, it's great. And then it's like, now I'm on trial for it. That's how I would feel if I were Bron. And I feel like.

[C]

And like, a weird observation I just kind of came up with in my head, though. But I'm just. It kind of feels like the women of Beverly Hills, like, just don't really have the structuring of friendship like Salt Lake City women do.

[E]

Yeah.

[C]

Like, I feel like those are, like, real people that hang out no matter what, where I'm just like, beverly Hills. It's just kind of like even their get togethers, you know what I mean? Like, they all go to events in Salt Lake City, and everybody's showing up. Everybody knows everybody. Where I'm like, beverly Hills. We're like, all right, so I guess we're gonna do a Get together at Boses. Okay. I guess we're going to Jennifer Tilly's.

[D]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's a good point. I didn't even think about that.

[C]

Yeah, yeah. Like, you're not really having events you're not really having.

[A]

That's why the speed dating was really a good ide. Because there was like, that's the. There was a thing for them to do.

[F]

Right.

[C]

But then we had Jennifer Tilly and now we're gonna do some naked men drawings. Like, you know what I mean?

[D]

Like, it's like, there's a great point.

[C]

There's always like a gimmick as to, like, how these women hang out together.

[A]

I will say naked. The naked men aren't. And the speed dating.

[E]

Those kind of.

[A]

Those are good ideas.

[D]

No, they're great ideas. But I think it's, it's true. Like, how much of their actual lives are they outside of the show? Are they. Would they have to run into each other or bump into each other?

[C]

These are great ideas for like a YouTube channel series. Like, watch the Housewives paint men. Watch the Housewives Speed day. Like, it's giving, like, YouTube series versus, like, these are women that hang out. So that's why to your question about Amanda, I'm, I'm. She's not really giving me anything right now, but I know that there's drama that's going to surround her. And I'm excited about that because, like, these women just kind of refuse to get messy. And like, when they do, we've seen it. Like, we've seen Kyle and Durie. Like, I don't need to see that again.

[A]

Yeah. Never met Kyle, 15 years in the business. Like, I don't want.

[C]

Like, I would be tired of it too. I'd be like, bitch, what the fuck do you want to know about me? Like, what do you not already know?

[D]

The good thing is, is that Kyle's life continues to evolve in ways that surprise her. Like, so, like the mo being a hoe. That's shocking to her. So, like, she's constantly showing up. Like, she's kind. Kyle's not exactly like an Alexia because Alexia has a lot more stuff going on. But Alexia's life, you can't write that shit. Like, the drama that happens to Alexia between the dad of the kids and then Herman and then Todd. Yeah. Like, so Kyle, in her own more passive way, does continuously. Like, there's always new stuff to talk about and there's always new versions of her that are tense. So, like, you know what I'm saying? Like, I think we're always going to see a new version of Kyle being upset or crying because it's always with different tension or different stakes and in different departments of her life. Like, it may seem the same when she's crying, but when she's crying about Kathy, it must feel different to her than when she's crying about the kids.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

You know, like the Kyle Kathy stuff was so hard to watch.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

I think that's probably the hardest thing for me to like. I empathize with her the most on that. And Kim and Kim, because that's siblings. As an acting teacher, I talk about all the time, like, how our family dynamics have informed so much of our lives and our needs and what needs we didn't get met as children and yada yada, and how we try to find them now as adults. But sibling relationships are so interesting because most of the time you grow up in the same house with them. Oftentimes same mom and sister, same dad, but you have completely different experiences depending on if you're the first child or the middle child or the third child. Depends on if your parents were really in love when you were the first child and then they stopped being in love with the second child. So, like, I'm always fascinated by siblings and the Kathy, Kim and Kyle just always gets me because of how they all had such different levels of responsibility, how big Kathy was different. I'm sure with each of them, Kathy's personal responsibility to taking care of her mom. If you feels like when they talk about her, there's like this. Something changes in the room when Kathy's like. But you know how mom was.

[B]

Yep.

[D]

And it's just amazing to watch it shift. And the moments where Kathy sort of turns into her. Like when Rinna was sort of popping off with the. The Kathy thing and Kathy looked at Kyle and said, kyle, Kyle. Well, we all knew what the fuck that meant.

[F]

Yep.

[C]

I was scared for her.

[D]

When the guests leave the dinner party, I'm to let you have it. Yeah, that's what it looked like. You know when you're with your family and they're like, get ready. Because when the Jacobson leave.

[B]

Yeah, you better go to bed.

[D]

You better go to bed.

[B]

Go to bed.

[D]

So the Kyle thing, I mean, there's always new stuff unfolding for her, but the Kathy and Kim. I miss Kim.

[F]

I do, I miss Kim.

[D]

Bring Kim back. No, but I only want her back if she's like, she's maybe not ready. Yeah. Like, I want her to come back when she's feeling Good. You know?

[F]

Yeah.

[A]

Mig, this has been something much fun.

[D]

We're done.

[A]

You have something else you want to say? You got more?

[D]

Let me see if I could spit out some hot takes. I don't think it's fair what they're doing to Meredith. They need to stop that. Need to stop playing that game. I heard there's rumors online that she's not coming back or they're demoting her. They need to stop playing with me.

[C]

Yeah, they can't.

[D]

I'm not having it.

[E]

Agree.

[D]

They're not. They better not demote her.

[C]

They're saying that, like the cat, that. That's what's being rumored is that the cast of women are. Have, like, turned their back and don't want to film with Meredith.

[D]

That's lame as hell. And they need to stop playing that game.

[A]

I don't like that. That's. I don't like it when they do that. You can't have a universe where you promote this type of drama and you. You push these. These women to. To the edge, then you get what you want. I mean, I understand the whole plane ride. And maybe they film it or didn't film it and then allow your rest of your cast to kind of bully people off the show because they. I don't know.

[D]

Well, that's the problem is that the show is a show about friendships, AKA alliances. And when you. When you kind of four or five people say they don't want to film with. With someone, I'm guessing it leaves production in a place where it's like, well, what do we do now, then? Yeah.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Or like, let me get one.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

Can we get one of you to them?

[D]

However, production, I don't think cares enough about what the housewives think. If they know this is TV gold and you better fudgeing, figure it out.

[B]

Right.

[D]

Because there were times where no one wanted to film with Bethany, but they were like, Bethany is so great on television.

[C]

Housewife.

[D]

Yeah. So like Luann. And unless.

[A]

Unless production is frustrated with Meredith for refusing talking about things because she does. Like, Meredith will. She will draw a line in the sand and not negotiate.

[D]

And what did you think about her answering Brooke's call?

[A]

It was insane.

[D]

I. You know.

[F]

No, she wanted to talk to her son.

[D]

I kind of. I have to say, I thought it was delicious. I thought it just shook those. I mean.

[A]

Oh, the way she sells it is how it's so important. It is if, like, you can't, you know, like the only time to hear.

[D]

But the package.

[A]

I appreciate you, mom. Is On Mother's Day. And if you don't get it on Mother's Day, it sells somehow is just. You have to wait a whole nother year.

[D]

No, the packaging later was very different than what happened in the moment. In the moment. It was perfect timing, and she was like this. You. Hi, honey. Yeah, these bitches. I'm good. How are you? So where are you going today?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Oh, good.

[D]

Oh, my God. I love Lavenue at Saks. Well, listen, if you go there, like, I. I just. I was into it.

[C]

It.

[D]

And I don't think she meant to do it that way, but I think she kind of. I don't need this shit. And also, I think Meredith is one of the few housewives that would be fine without the housewives. Like, I don't think she needs the show at all. I think she enjoys it. I think for her, it's like a hobby. Like how rich women have hobbies, like how some women play pickleball. I believe this is pickleball.

[A]

Yes.

[D]

I think Meredith on the Housewife is a pickleball. She's like, it's fun. I get to do a couple of things.

[A]

Here's why I don't think the Meredith rumors are gonna go anywhere, because, like, I think they really believe in next gen. Brooks is the star of next gen, and Meredith plays a big role in this. The Marx family. They're really gonna, like, how does that work? They're gonna fire Meredith and then expect her to, like, be a big part of next? I don't know.

[D]

I think they should keep her and stop playing games. And I think the other women need to start letting it go. And they also need to bring in. I don't know what this means. You want Monica back?

[C]

I want Monica back.

[D]

I liked her on the show. I wouldn't mind if she. She came back. I definitely don't want Jen Shaw back. They got to stop playing that game. I didn't even like her her first round. I never liked Jen Shaw. I never found her funny. I never found her entertaining. I always thought she was a cartoon character, and I would watch cartoons if I wanted to watch a cartoon character. But you know what I think Salt Lake needs is two new women. They can do the thing of bringing one new girl on. Like, they didn't really bully Bron in her last season, but they let her. They hazed her a little bit. They attacked Britney this season. The next season, they need two more. Like, I think we're in the. I think we're in the market for a mini shakeup. Many, many, many.

[C]

I mean, we did. We did get Britney and Bronwyn at the same time.

[D]

It just felt still like we had this core of OGs that were like, you know, like, I don't fuck with you. And it's too hard. Like, it's too hard when I think we need a couple more people so that it doesn't feel so cliquish. When a show starts getting cliquish, it gets hard. And then they have to eat their own, which is what's happening. They're eating their own by eating Meredith.

[C]

When I saw that Monica had said somewhere that she had typed out a text to Meredith after watching this last episode, she didn't send it, but she was like, essentially just saying, like, it's really hard watching everybody gang up on you. I've been there, essentially. So I kind of feel like my, like, 2 cents would be like, I would want Monica back with Monica Meredith and then bring in Angie H. When.

[E]

They did the internal. When they did the internal investigation, Meredith was one of the people that was like, I didn't feel physically threatened by Monica. So, I mean.

[C]

And I was like. And Monica feels for her right now.

[F]

So I'm like, Monica Meredith alliance would be so huge.

[C]

That's what I'm saying. It's like the Tamara, Katie, Janela. Like, I'm excited for the next episode.

[D]

I think Bronwyn and Meredith having a friendship would be great. Like, I think Bronwyn and Meredith could actually really. And I don't know if that's happened on the show and they haven't used it. You know, there's so many hours of footage. But I think Bronwyn and Meredith really could be the trick.

[F]

They're both, like, kind of quirky, but in different ways.

[D]

And they're both really smart. Like, Meredith and Bronwyn are smart as hell. They're really with it. And look, some people are saying that Meredith is a gaslighter. I don't see it that way. But I'm also a Meredith enthusiast and enabler. So I'm the wrong person. I have. I rock. But you know what? But Meredith does it. If she does it, she does it in a way where, I don't know it works. It just. I just. I.

[F]

She does it.

[A]

She sells it with such confidence and such conviction. I think she does it in a way that most people can't do what she does. And I think it's for those purposes. It's just mood.

[D]

Like a Dominican man in Miami. I don't know anybody.

[A]

Miguel. It's been a pleasure man.

[D]

Thank you for having me.

[A]

Me. Where can the people find you?

[D]

Instagram the Miguel Luciano Tick tock Miguel underscore Luciano. Well that was pretty easy.

[A]

To Miguel for joining us. Merry Christmas, Happy holidays. Whatever you are celebrating this season, we hope you have a great time with the people you love. We'll be back next week. We'll see you on Monday. We got some a really exciting juicy episode. Merry Christmas, Happy holidays. Bye bye.

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