E1054 Holiday Debrief with Tyler Cameron and Tate Madden, RHOP and Taylor Frankie Paul Teases Bach News

Summary

The Viall Files – E1054: Holiday Debrief with Tyler Cameron and Tate Cameron, RHOP Recap, and Taylor Frankie Paul Bach News

Date: December 30, 2025
Host: Nick Viall
Guests: Natalie Viall, Tyler Cameron, Tate Cameron, Susie Evans, Sierra, Justin

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Episode Overview

This festive episode of The Viall Files is a classic “Reality Recap” with a deeply personal, hilarious—and at times moving—holiday debrief from Nick Viall, his wife Natalie, friends Tyler Cameron and Tate Cameron (in-studio at the Viall lake house), and the rest of the lively Household crew. Together, they dig into the highs and lows of Christmas with big, complicated families, New Year’s resolutions, and all the chaos (and heart) of the season. The latter half dives into hot pop culture headlines, teases from the upcoming Bachelorette with Taylor Frankie Paul, and a spicy, sweet, and sour Real Housewives of Potomac (RHOP) recap.

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1. Holiday Debrief: Family, Food, Frustrations & Joy

Timestamps: 03:30 – 22:50

Lake House Holidays: The Reality

• The Vialls hosted most of Nick’s ten siblings (plus significant others) at their newly renovated lake house—a full, loud holiday that brought the best and worst of family dynamics.
• Natalie voiced her desire for “Christmas magic” and family traditions from her childhood—“beautiful, gorgeous” Christmas mornings with coordinated gift opening and big breakfasts—only to find the Viall family is...less structured.
  • “I’m like, where is the Christmas magic and the joy? …Nick, what is this?” – Natalie (14:36)
• Nick reflects on the chaos of hosting as an adult:
  • “My siblings come here as if it’s… mom and dad’s house and not... their brother Nick’s new house. They move as if they’re home.” (05:38)
• Classic family food fights: Nick cooks for everyone, but as the days drag on, exhaustion sets in.
  • “After they’re there for like four or five days… maybe chip in.” – Nick (06:42)
• Moms as holiday heroes:
  • “They make it so magical… getting the cinnamon, the homemade cinnamon rolls, mimosas… They do everything.” – Natalie (17:47)

Guests’ Holiday Reflections

• Tyler and Tate Cameron discuss their own Christmas routines and family baggage.
  • Tyler: “I am the Grinch on Christmas.” (18:49) He opens up about holidays being difficult due to past family health and financial issues, and how Tate’s spirit has helped him reconnect with the season.
  • “For me, Christmas has always been tough… but this year, Tate… brought back that spirit.” – Tyler (19:23)
  • Tate and Tyler are giving back by running a toy drive for the first time, emphasizing how joy comes from making others happy.

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2. Resolutions, Growth, and the 75 Hard Challenge

Timestamps: 21:32 – 26:48

• New Year’s resolutions:
  • Most of the crew laughs about their annual ambition to get fit and “crush it in the gym,” but admit reality never matches that bravado.
    • “There are so many befores... there are no afters.” – Natalie (24:08)
• Tyler & Tate tried the “75 Hard” challenge—two workouts per day (one outside), a gallon of water, daily reading, strict diet, “no drinking.”
  • They lasted three weeks.
  • “We were walking the dogs at midnight to get our second workout in.” – Tate (25:23)
• The group agrees: Drinking more water = best beauty hack.
  • “The amount of compliments I got on my skin!” – Tate (24:37)

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3. Home Renovations & Internet Judgment

Timestamps: 10:01 – 11:20

• Tate and Tyler finished revealing their renovated home—felt vulnerable sharing it online:
  • “People were just coming for her kitchen!... you made it plain, you made it worse.” – Tate (10:37)
• Nick draws a parallel: posting your home is like “going on reality TV for the first time” (11:10)—you start to obsess over strangers’ opinions.

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4. Pop Culture & Relationship Headlines

Timestamps: 30:26 – 47:45

The Anthropology “Rock” Trend

• Trend where women fake excitement over a random rock, pranking their (male) partners.
• The guys ponder: What’s the male version?
  • “Sports cards. Even memorabilia.” – Tyler (32:51)
  • “It is worth what you’re willing to pay for it. Period.” – Nick (33:54)

WikiFeet Wars

• The group discovers Nick and Tyler’s WikiFeet scores:
  • “Tyler Cameron is five out of five stars…” (35:11)
• “Let’s even out the score!” – Sierra (36:16)

Taylor Frankie Paul as Bachelorette – Teases and Hot Takes

Timestamps: 36:38 – 43:11

• Taylor’s constant updates while filming Bachelorette are revolutionizing the show’s PR and fan engagement.
  • “It’s giving aspects that made a Hannah Brown season electric.” – Nick (37:05)
  • “She really embraced the role... She’s a TV star. Unlike some other seasons, where they’re kind of getting a civilian.” – Nick (37:26)
• “She’s going to modernize the show. I think next year we’ll see Bachelor and Bachelorette doing stuff [online] while filming.” – Tate (38:46)
• “She knows how to tease aspects of her life and not share too much. So she was the perfect professional for this.” – Sierra (39:22)
• Discussion: Will men be intimidated by Taylor’s high-profile, influencer persona?
  • “She is intimidating. I’d be intimidated if I was a guy.” – Tyler (43:04)
• Brooks Nader as future Bachelorette:
  • “She’s got star power.” – Justin/Sierra (43:17)

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5. Spicy, Sweet & Sour: Hot Reality TV Moments

Segment Presented by Thrive Market
Timestamps: 48:24 – 53:06

• Each host/guest picks a sweet, spicy, or sour moment from headlines or on-screen:
  • Sweet: Jen Affleck getting gifted her favorite Dancing with the Stars dress by husband Zach (50:09)
  • Sour: Ashley Darby kissing Cherise’s son Jackson on RHOP – “A little sour on Ashley’s heart, but also a little sweet.” – Nick (50:53)
  • Spicy: “Christmas morning on the beanbag in Tate’s basement.” (51:10)
  • Also discussed: Kim Kardashian gifting Kourtney the Pee Wee Herman red bicycle ($125k price tag).

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6. Real Housewives of Potomac Recap: Family Drama, Lingerie & Makeouts

Timestamps: 53:12 – 64:05

• Top moments:
  • Wendy’s family confrontation—mother-daughter estrangement and boundaries after Wendy rekindles a relationship with her estranged dad.
    • “It was really sad to watch that.” – Sierra (54:32)
    • “I think it is so cool when moms can put aside their own feelings and allow their kids to kind of… They’ll figure it out eventually.” – Tyler (57:11)
  • Cherise’s son & Ashley Darby makeout—crew debates: was it wrong to tell Cherise? (61:00)
    • “I think Ashley thought it would be saucy for her storyline… but then it wasn’t.” – Susie (61:36)
    • “Kay nailed it: Hide your husbands, hide your sons.” – Sierra (61:45)
  • Stacy confronts Cherise for wearing lingerie to a family event—the panel howls.
    • “Valid question!” – Natalie (63:27)
    • “She looked hot. Her ninnies looked great.” – Sierra (63:30)

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7. Plans for New Year's Eve – and the Best Resolutions

Timestamps: 64:55 – 67:11

• Low-key plans:
  • “New Year’s Eve is so overrated. It’s amateur night.” – Natalie/Tate (67:09)
  • Crew favors chill celebrations over overhyped parties.
• Moments of reflection:
  • “Whatever you do, I hope you do it safely. We appreciate you guys… It’s been a magical year.” – Nick (67:36)

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Memorable Quotes & Moments

• “We’re not at Mom and Dad’s anymore, you’re at Nick’s house.” – Nick (07:10)
• “Your parents will gaslight you into harmony.” – Nick (17:21)
• "I'm always like, 'Ugh, here's Christmas again... But Tate brought back that spirit for me." – Tyler Cameron (19:23)
• “The amount of before photos I have… all befores, no afters.” – Natalie (24:08)
• “I think the rock [trend] is the equivalent—so sorry, people love this—but Labubu. Basically, any stuffed animal that has any type of additional value…” – Tyler & Nick (33:18)
• “It’s worth what you’re willing to pay for it. Period.” – Nick (33:54)
• “She’s going to modernize the [Bachelor] show... really a cool way of doing it.” – Tate (38:46)
• “They [Taylor and Dakota] will serve it up. Even if it’s just friends, not friends, or friends for 24 hours…” – Nick (52:50)
• “I think it’s really selfless when moms can… just allow their children to…” – Tyler (57:11)
• “Kay nailed it: hide your husbands, hide your sons.” – Sierra (61:45)
• “New Year’s Eve is so overrated. Sometimes I just want a nice night with my dogs.” – Tyler (67:11)

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Notable Timestamps

03:30 — Christmas family dynamics, hosting chaos
07:10 — Sibling “gaslighting” and adult family traditions
18:49 — Holiday depression and reclaiming the spirit
21:32 — Resolutions: are any kept? Gym fails, “befores”
24:18 — 75 Hard challenge woes
30:31 — Anthropology rock trend and gender differences in collecting
35:11 — WikiFeet discussion: Tyler’s perfect 5.0
36:38 — Taylor Frankie Paul teases Bachelorette season
54:31 — RHOP recap: family estrangement, Ashley makes out with Jackson
61:45 — “Hide your husbands, hide your sons…” (Ashley Darby storyline)
64:55 — NYE plans: chill over fancy
67:36 — Year-end gratitude and farewells

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Summary

This relaxed, laugh-out-loud holiday special reminds listeners why The Viall Files remains a reality/pop-culture must-listen. The episode’s back-and-forths about family chaos, giving back, pop-culture trends, and the “inside baseball” of reality TV casting make for a mix that is both heartfelt and hilarious—a fitting farewell to 2025.

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Transcript

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[Mrs. Claus's Younger Sister]

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[Elf Drewski]

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[Nick Vile]

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[Natalie Vile]

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[Susie Evans]

Santa, did you get my letter?

[Elf Drewski]

He's talking to you, Bridges. I'm not.

[Mrs. Claus's Younger Sister]

Of course he did.

[Nick Vile]

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[Elf Drewski]

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[Nick Vile]

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[Mrs. Claus's Younger Sister]

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[Tate Cameron]

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[Elf Drewski]

My side of the tree is slipping.

[Tate Cameron]

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[Nick Vile]

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[Sierra]

You'Re crazy.

[Nick Vile]

What's going on, everybody? Back to another exciting episode of the Vile Files reality recap edition. I'm your host, Nick, joined by my. You're playful.

[Natalie Vile]

He does this every time, guys. He like any adjectives. Explain his wife. And you would always say beautiful, gorgeous.

[Nick Vile]

Beautiful, gorgeous, sexy wife. Now the joy. And then like, that wasn't good enough.

[Natalie Vile]

It kind of got to the point where I was like, am I only beautiful, gorgeous and sexy?

[Sierra]

You know, like.

[Tyler Cameron]

Like, am I not funny? Smart and.

[Natalie Vile]

And funny and intellig. Kind and brave and sensitive.

[Nick Vile]

She did get me a thesaurus for Christmas.

[Tyler Cameron]

And really good at dominoes.

[Natalie Vile]

Really good at dominoes.

[Nick Vile]

I have yet to crack open the thesaurus.

[Natalie Vile]

But playful.

[Tyler Cameron]

She is super playful.

[Nick Vile]

She's joyful.

[Natalie Vile]

Very silly.

[Susie Evans]

Triumphant.

[Nick Vile]

Chill.

[Tyler Cameron]

Triumphant.

[Natalie Vile]

She's chill and playful. Wow.

[Tyler Cameron]

Get a girl who can do both. Get a girl who could do both.

[Nick Vile]

She's easygoing but still fun.

[Tyler Cameron]

Yes, yes.

[Natalie Vile]

Well, you do hear our two guests in studio at the lake house.

[Nick Vile]

Our first lake house guest, Tate and Tyler.

[Tate Cameron]

Well, playful Tyler.

[Natalie Vile]

Tate and Tyler Cameron.

[Tyler Cameron]

Sounds weirder when you don't like leading. I don't know about it. Hey, everybody.

[Natalie Vile]

Tate and Tyler Cameron.

[Tyler Cameron]

TT dynamite.

[Tate Cameron]

My beautiful, gorgeous, sweet Tate.

[Sierra]

Sweet.

[Nick Vile]

Oh, see? Beautiful, gorgeous, beautiful, gorgeous.

[Natalie Vile]

Runs it flows off the tongue.

[Nick Vile]

I get it.

[Tyler Cameron]

I know.

[Nick Vile]

We also have Susie Evans with us and Sierra and Mary and Justin are back and LA in studio. Hope you guys all had a very happy holiday, whatever holiday you celebrated. We're Christmas people.

[Tyler Cameron]

We are. We are.

[Susie Evans]

The way you said that was like, okay, don't worry.

[Nick Vile]

Just.

[Tyler Cameron]

We rock with Christmas.

[Nick Vile]

Just let you know where we stand. Did you guys have a great holiday?

[Sierra]

I did.

[Tyler Cameron]

I did too.

[Sierra]

Very relaxed and I loved it. Yeah, mine was great. I feel like, you know, lots of family stuff, lots of drama.

[Tate Cameron]

Tea.

[Nick Vile]

Do you have family drama?

[Tyler Cameron]

Always.

[Natalie Vile]

Yeah.

[Sierra]

I mean, not always, but, you know, just like, just like thrilling. Like the. The group chat's going crazy, you know, I can't really.

[Nick Vile]

Yeah. I wish I could speak on our family drama.

[Sierra]

Same.

[Nick Vile]

There are some.

[Sierra]

My lips are sealed.

[Nick Vile]

God, how could I say this? I don't think I could. Decisions are being made.

[Justin]

Oh.

[Susie Evans]

When decision.

[Justin]

Ugh.

[Susie Evans]

God. When families make decisions, opinions are being had there.

[Nick Vile]

And there's one part of the family where decisions being made in one direction and there's the other side of the family where that. That they think that decision should be very different.

[Sierra]

That's tough.

[Tate Cameron]

And when your family's that big, it's like a village making decisions. Not just a family.

[Natalie Vile]

It's a whole town. Yeah.

[Tyler Cameron]

Does everyone know how many siblings you actually have?

[Natalie Vile]

They should at this point.

[Nick Vile]

Sure. I mean, if you're new to the show, welcome.

[Natalie Vile]

It's got 10 siblings.

[Tyler Cameron]

It's a lot.

[Natalie Vile]

Welcome to the show.

[Nick Vile]

I'm sure every episode we have a. Yeah.

[Natalie Vile]

One or two new ones. Trinkle in.

[Nick Vile]

Yeah.

[Sierra]

But they.

[Natalie Vile]

But most of them, like, brought also their significant others. So it was a very full packed house up here at the lake house.

[Sierra]

You guys hosted everybody. Basically all were welcomed.

[Nick Vile]

And some came, some didn't. Like. Yeah, like, some are. Yeah. Some have, you know, they have their own families. So I'd say all but four. Right.

[Justin]

Wow.

[Nick Vile]

And then some brought their significant others.

[Sierra]

Nice.

[Nick Vile]

It's interesting because it's my house.

[Sierra]

I don't like where this is going.

[Tate Cameron]

Elaborate, Nick.

[Natalie Vile]

Anything that starts with my is never gonna end well.

[Nick Vile]

My parents have graciously like, you know, they actually sold the house I grew up in to my brother, so keeping that in the family. So that's cool. I don't know if I'll ever go back.

[Susie Evans]

Yeah.

[Tate Cameron]

Should go back.

[Nick Vile]

No. And so my parents live here at the lake full time. And so part of the renovation was to, you know, they have a very nice side of the house, and they graciously take care of this house for us, you know, so they do a lot for us. We really appreciate it. But Mike's siblings come here as if it's. They're still visiting mom and dad at mom and dad's house and not, like, coming to their brother Nick's new. New house. And so, like, how they move is like, as if they're home. You know what I'm saying?

[Tyler Cameron]

Where mom does everything.

[Nick Vile]

Where mom does everything.

[Natalie Vile]

It's so funny. Nick will cook for us, you know, like, Nick cooks for us at home in la. Cooks for his family. He's the cook of the family, and he'll cook. And then all of a sudden, everyone starts trinklin upstairs and like, oh, dinner's ready.

[Nick Vile]

Great.

[Natalie Vile]

It's like, well.

[Sierra]

Well for us.

[Natalie Vile]

But that's just like the classic, I feel like, family fight of like, you ate my food. You took my, you know, like, oh, yeah.

[Tyler Cameron]

Classic 100 classic.

[Sierra]

It wouldn't be family if you weren't fighting over leftovers food.

[Nick Vile]

I'm happy to cook for them, and I did for most meals. But, like, after they're there for like, four or five days, maybe.

[Sierra]

Chip.

[Tyler Cameron]

Right.

[Sierra]

I feel like three to four days is kind of the max. Like, if I feel like at three, it's like, okay, we've gotten what we needed, and then at 4, you start to push it a little bit.

[Susie Evans]

Yeah, yeah.

[Tyler Cameron]

Everyone starts to be a little more opinionated.

[Nick Vile]

Well, again, when you're at mom and Dad, I think it's four. Makes sense. You go back home.

[Tyler Cameron]

Yep.

[Nick Vile]

But you ain't home no more. You're at Nick's house.

[Sierra]

You're at Nick and Natalie's.

[Nick Vile]

Anyways, we had a great holiday, and we are very excited to have our friends Tyler and Tate here, who decided to join us for the holidays.

[Tate Cameron]

I won't be eating the rest of the trip.

[Sierra]

Yeah, yeah.

[Nick Vile]

Yeah. We're excited to have them. I mean, we have a couch open. Figured they would join us. We do have a pretty great week lined up, given that it is a shortened week for the holidays because tomorrow we have a going deeper that kind of fell into our lap.

[Natalie Vile]

Literally was asked to Be freed up on a recorded place.

[Nick Vile]

We're like, hey, we have Jared Osmond and Brittany Bateman on tomorrow. Ooh. Jared reached out and was like, hey, I want to come on. Like, I'm getting heat out in the wild.

[Natalie Vile]

He's getting. He's like, I'm getting booed at airports.

[Tyler Cameron]

Oh, no, that's tough.

[Natalie Vile]

He's like, I need to be.

[Nick Vile]

He's taken some beatings online, certainly some of which are at least perceived by his own doing. You know, some of those DMS he sent to people, some of those scenes he filmed. The Walk and talk this season down by the river. There are some tough looks for Jared, but him. And then. So we asked Brittany to come. She showed up. And the first. I don't know the first bits with Jared, and I just was curious to get to know him. This is not like a Jordan episode. And then we actually. We record Brittany watching my interview with Jared to get her reactions, which is kind of fun.

[Sierra]

Oh, I love that.

[Tyler Cameron]

That's very fun.

[Nick Vile]

And then Brittany joins us, and we all have a fun chat. It's a wild episode. I'm exc. Excited for you guys to listen to. That's tomorrow. And then today. Yeah, we're gonna. We got Potomac, and we got some headlines, and we got some chatting about the. It's New Year's. It's the end of the year. We did it.

[Natalie Vile]

Goodbye, 2025.

[Nick Vile]

We did it. What a year.

[Natalie Vile]

It went by really fast. I feel like it only went by super fast because having a child like river has just. I, like, look at her at the beginning of this year, and then I look at her now, and I'm like, how did that happen?

[Nick Vile]

Think about how different our lives are.

[Natalie Vile]

It's crazy. In a year, it's crazy.

[Nick Vile]

How different are your lives?

[Tyler Cameron]

Pretty much the same. Yeah.

[Natalie Vile]

Not much has changed in this camp.

[Tyler Cameron]

That much razzle dazzle going on over here.

[Tate Cameron]

We got a new dog.

[Nick Vile]

That's a big deal.

[Tyler Cameron]

We did. We got another dog. Third one. We are growing our family.

[Natalie Vile]

Tate delivered. Yeah.

[Sierra]

It's beautiful.

[Natalie Vile]

Growing your business.

[Tate Cameron]

Yes. Yes.

[Sierra]

Didn't you redo your home?

[Tyler Cameron]

We did, yeah. That was.

[Sierra]

Your home is gorgeous. Your home is incredible.

[Tyler Cameron]

That's been like, the last two and a half years, so, you know, it's mixed into this year. But, yeah, we did the reveal of the home this year. Everyone. The reaction was very good. I think that we were both nervous to put it out there, and it turned out great.

[Natalie Vile]

Definitely. Putting out your home is like a very personal, you know, because I'VE seen.

[Tate Cameron]

It where people get cooked on there.

[Natalie Vile]

Oh, yeah. Like, oh, you picked that wallpaper or that marble or people are very opinionated.

[Tate Cameron]

There was some lady that you follow or you show me her kitchen, which I thought it was like a nice. She did a good job renovating it, but people were just coming for her kitchen. I was like, damn. Like, yeah, you know, and she probably loves that kitchen. And it's a nice kitchen. Just like, how could you do that? It's like you made it plain. You made it worse. Like, you know, because minimalistic, like is in or, you know, maybe it's going out now. Everything's getting a little bit more maximalized and.

[Tyler Cameron]

Yeah, but when you hear negative comments about your house and then you're like living in the house, you're just like. Then you start reminded of the negative comments all day, every day.

[Nick Vile]

It's like going on reality TV for the first time.

[Tate Cameron]

Yeah, right.

[Nick Vile]

You're like, you thought you're like a pretty decent looking person.

[Tate Cameron]

You're like, my nose is perfect.

[Sierra]

Yeah.

[Tyler Cameron]

Damn. Why didn't I see that before?

[Natalie Vile]

Well, how was your Christmas, Nick? Are you happy with what you received?

[Nick Vile]

I got a truly magical Christmas experience.

[Tate Cameron]

You got menthol crystals.

[Nick Vile]

He did get menthol crystals for the sauna. Yes, the sauna that Chris Vile, my dad, built with his bare hands, which is so cool. I got a beautiful piece of artwork from a very talented artist. And it was a drawing of what used to be the Williamsburg Hotel in Williamsburg, Brooklyn, New York where we met. And yeah, it was a cute little drawing. And so we're gonna put that up at the like.

[Tyler Cameron]

It honestly was such a thoughtful gift and it turned out great.

[Tate Cameron]

Really enjoyed it.

[Natalie Vile]

It's like where everything started.

[Nick Vile]

Then I got some well made T shirts and staples.

[Natalie Vile]

I was unfortunately a little disappointed on Christmas morning. Not with me, not with Nick, to be clear. Not with Nick. We opened our gifts on Christmas Eve after gone to bed, after we had become Santa and filled the stockings and built the toys. We had a little nice moment ourselves and opened our gifts. But then on Christmas morning, the way that I grew up is obviously I'm with. It was me, my mom, my three siblings and like I woke up very early. I was the youngest. I was always like the most excited for Christmas. And I remember I would wake up and be like, it's Christmas and like run into everyone's room. Like everyone would come into the living room and bad breath, messy hair, PJs. Everyone like finds their spot in the chair, on the couch. On the floor, wherever you're sitting, your stocking is waiting for you. Everyone opens their stocking at once. And then me as the elf, or maybe my mom, would pass out everyone's presence. And then you would sit and it would open one at a time. And you'd go around the room and everyone would, like, watch you open and be like, oh, cute.

[Nick Vile]

Cool.

[Natalie Vile]

And then it'd go to the next older sibling. Whatever. Then we'd make a big, beautiful breakfast, maybe mimosas. Once we got a little older, you know, it was a whole beautiful morning. Well, I woke up here. River's obviously awake. It's me, Nick, River. Nick's parents come out. River's, like, seeing her kitchen. We got her a cute little kitchen Santa did. And she's, like, looking at it and playing with it. And I'm kind of like, okay, like, where's everybody at? You know? And they're like, oh, yeah. Like, someone's in the shower. Someone's there. A couple people are getting ready for church. Like, what do you guys mean, getting ready for church? They're like, yeah, we're gonna go to the 9:00 clock service. We're gonna leave here in about 10 minutes. Like, so no one's gonna, like, come and open their gifts. It's like, we'll do it when we get back. We'll just kind of sprinkle them in throughout the day. Like, really? Okay, well, I guess y'.

[Nick Vile]

All.

[Natalie Vile]

Y' all have fun. Then a couple people come in, and then they're like, I guess we'll just, like, what? Scramble some eggs. Everyone just want a big batch of scrambled eggs. I'm like, oh, God. That's what we're doing. It's like. I'm like, where is the Christmas magic and the joy? And I'm like, nick, what is this? And he's like, listen, we just gotta make it happen. Let's. He's like, guys, we're not doing eggs. Let's do something special. Pancakes. Should we make pancakes? A waffle. Waffle Waffle bar, something. Ooh, I don't know. Chocolate chip. Chocolate chip pancakes. Freshly squeezed orange juice.

[Justin]

Wow.

[Natalie Vile]

But still, you know, everyone kind of just like, trinkled in throughout the day and, like, would open their presents.

[Nick Vile]

I realized this. This is, I guess, in a way, my fault. But it is the product of, like, this is like, we, you know, Natalie and I are trying to start our traditions, and this is our. Well, we were at the lake house last year when it was the old place, and then it was just me and my parents and Nellie's mom. And so we did our thing. We did exactly that. Now we was only barely even 1 years old, so it was really just for us.

[Natalie Vile]

Christmas before that, I was pregnant, couldn't travel.

[Nick Vile]

We stayed, you know, we were in la.

[Natalie Vile]

Yeah.

[Nick Vile]

So this is the first, like, family, family Christmas. But, like. And I guess I kind of just. Everything Natalie described, we've done, we did, we did. You know, but like, everyone's an adult now. And so. And then my siblings, you know, again, they're back. They're adults. But yeah, I think this. The, you know, everyone was an, you know, adult. I didn't think of it. And I just. I just. Yeah, I assumed that they would. The adults would still want to wake up and exchange some presents, but now they want to savor it. I guess. They want to.

[Natalie Vile]

They want to savor it. Your mom was like, it's always been an all day thing.

[Nick Vile]

I'm like, no, it hasn't. My mom will do that. Do your parents do that? Well, they'll be like, we've always done this.

[Tyler Cameron]

And I'm like, no, we didn't.

[Nick Vile]

No, we didn't. Literally never.

[Tate Cameron]

My dad tells people all the time, oh, yeah. I used to take my kids to Jackson Hole, Wyoming, every year for Christmas, and I heard him saying to somebody.

[Tyler Cameron]

One time, I think he was saying.

[Tate Cameron]

It to me, and I go, dad, we've done that one time. But in his brain, he's taken us to like six trips there. Because it sounds good, okay, but this.

[Natalie Vile]

Is literally just like, Tyler, the other day goes. Yesterday goes, oh, yeah, the other day I made this, like Korean barbecue. And Tate's like, when? And he's like, remember? It was like. She's like, that was January.

[Tyler Cameron]

It was over a year.

[Tate Cameron]

It's still in the same year. It constitutes as the other day.

[Natalie Vile]

The other day, yes.

[Sierra]

Anyways, the apple doesn't fall.

[Nick Vile]

Well, you know, my parents, many of the siblings have been adults for a while. So in my mom. My mom's brain, maybe like the past couple years, it was all day thing, and maybe she just doesn't remember.

[Tyler Cameron]

I also feel like moms try to, like, manipulate or I don't know if manipulated the right word, but they're like trying to get everyone to get along. They're like, oh, yeah, like, oh, this.

[Natalie Vile]

Is what we've always done. Don't worry about it.

[Tyler Cameron]

Because the. The group.

[Nick Vile]

Yeah, your parents let. Your parents will gaslight you into harmony.

[Tyler Cameron]

Into harmony.

[Sierra]

That is exactly what they do.

[Nick Vile]

No, they're just like, they love you so much. That's. This is how they want to experience.

[Natalie Vile]

You know, how they're eating all your food. They love your cooking. You're such a good cook.

[Nick Vile]

The holidays are just, like, a place where people get together and figure out, like, what the algorithm's been showing them.

[Tyler Cameron]

Yes.

[Natalie Vile]

But I think it also does go to show that, like, moms really are the heroes of holidays. And, like, they make it so magical and so special. And, like, that's what I think about when I was, like, my mom was the one who was like, yeah, making the cinnamon. The homemade cinnamon rolls and getting the mimosas, and, you know, they do everything. They do everything.

[Tyler Cameron]

He was getting so frustrated with my siblings during Christmas because he's like, I couldn't stand just sitting on the couch while all your siblings are like, mom, like, where's the biscuits and gravy? And, like, my mom had stayed up all night, like, wrapping all the gifts.

[Tate Cameron]

She made. The nicest wrapping ever. Bows on everything.

[Tyler Cameron]

We're all grown adults, by the way, too, just to add that.

[Tate Cameron]

And then complaining at 11:30 that the biscuits and gravy isn't ready.

[Sierra]

Yeah.

[Tate Cameron]

I was like, oh, my God.

[Tyler Cameron]

Yeah. No, they're. I mean, what are you gonna do? What are you gonna do?

[Natalie Vile]

Well, I wish y' all could tell us what y' all got each other for Christmas, but y' all haven't opened gifts yet.

[Tyler Cameron]

We have not, no.

[Sierra]

Wow.

[Tate Cameron]

I will say this, though, about Tate. Like, I am the Grinch on Christmas, like, because. Yeah. Because holidays are tough for some people. Yeah. And I think, like, that's kind of like what you guys get in this house, you know, that you don't even realize, like, some siblings feel certain ways about how things have gone probably in the past during Christmas, or feel certain ways about relationships and whatnot. And for my family, like, there's been three Christmases, like, where my dad's been in the hospital, you know, and so it's like, every Christmas, I'm always, like, holding my breath, or we were always broke, and, like, my mom was, like, she was doing anything she could make you. So I. Like, for me, Christmas has always been tough.

[Sierra]

Yeah.

[Tate Cameron]

You know, which. So, like, I'm always like, oh, great, here's Christmas again. I gotta. You know, even my. Like, my mom's family, and, like, it's like, fractured relationships everywhere. So I was like, great, I gotta hang around these people, which is getting better, you know? But so it's. It's hard, you know, for some people. And for me, I'm always like, Ugh. But this year, like, Tate, I feel like, has really, like, brought back that spirit for me, in a sense.

[Natalie Vile]

What did she do? How did she do that?

[Tate Cameron]

I think part of it had to do with, like, you know, we tried to do the angel tree. Didn't work out. So I was like, let's just do our own Christmas toy drive. And then just to see how excited she got for all these toys and to see her wrap all these toys and really go for it, and then, like, see the response on these families, I'm like, oh, that's what this is, what it's about. You know, it's like, making other people happy and feeling great about that moment that day. And for me, I was like, okay, that's my mission. Like, if I make always worried or feel different about Christmas, like, I at least get joy from making other people feel good about it.

[Nick Vile]

So, Yeah, I think also, I don't know how you are. You ladies are. I feel like you ladies are better at supporting each other as. As single women in this type of thing, because, like, I think as single guys, like, if you're in your 20s, 30s, and you're single guys, I mean, other than your families, to Tyler's point. But even then, as you get older, like, if. Yeah. If you're not lucky to have that, like, family unit, like, there's no one, like, getting you in the Christmas spirit. It's not your. It's not your bros. You're not exchanging gifts.

[Sierra]

And, like, yeah, girls do, like, secret.

[Nick Vile]

Santa cookies together and, like, having little Christmas parties and celebrating the spirit. Like, so I think as a single guy, if you don't have that nucleus, it's easy to kind of just be like, oh, Christmas. I don't know. I'm not a child.

[Tate Cameron]

Yeah.

[Nick Vile]

Like, you know, to, like, to embrace the season, you know, all the traditions, the music. You're. Yeah. You don't put on, like, background Christmas jazz. No, it was a bar. Yeah. Christmas that I had without a Christmas tree at my place. Were, I don't know, many. You're kind of like, what's the point? Now I'm in October. Now I have five trees.

[Sierra]

It's called growth.

[Natalie Vile]

Yeah.

[Sierra]

Are y' all people who set New.

[Natalie Vile]

Year's resolutions and, like, follow through with them?

[Tyler Cameron]

We wanted to start that this year. We actually printed out. We haven't done it, so it's going great. But we printed out these little worksheets that we found on different questions to ask ourselves about kind of, like, questions.

[Tate Cameron]

Overview of, like, 20, 25.

[Natalie Vile]

Yeah.

[Tate Cameron]

Like, then what to, like, what's you want to set for for 20, 26 and whatnot.

[Tyler Cameron]

But it's questions that we answer for ourselves and then also questions that relate to our relationship and then also other questions that relate to things that I see in him that I would be like, hey, I would love if you helped out more with this. Or, you know, I think you, you know, did the best with this this year. Like, you should keep it going.

[Sierra]

So.

[Tyler Cameron]

Yeah, it'd be cool if we actually.

[Natalie Vile]

Did it, but we have some time still.

[Tyler Cameron]

Yeah.

[Natalie Vile]

I mean, tomorrow you're both.

[Nick Vile]

You're both on board to do it.

[Tate Cameron]

Yeah, no, I think, like, half the battle. Yeah. Well, I think we have so much going on in our lives as. As do you guys, everyone here. It's like if you don't kind of create that vision, it's easy to kind of get lost and be all over the place and not really, you know, and so I kind of want us to focus on what is our goals together, independently, and, like, what's. So we can create that vision.

[Nick Vile]

If anyone have a, like, a New Year's resolution they really stuck to, or one that you really, I guess, didn't, or the craziest one you tried, any of those will do.

[Sierra]

I feel like annually I'm like, it's gonna be my fittest year yet. And actually I did get really fit last year. Lost it back to. Back to square one.

[Nick Vile]

Perfect.

[Sierra]

But I did get very fit.

[Nick Vile]

Susie. I definitely. I relate to that mindset where now that I'm not, like, I'm fine. I'm fine. Yeah, I'm fine, but I am not like I used to be, like, looking for reasons to take my shirt off. You know what it's like? And I tell myself, and I tell myself, two years removed from Christmas party, shirt off, Special Forces. As you know, Tyler, I will get in the mindset of, like, you know, like, right. Right before my birthday this year, I was like, you know what? I'm going to get back in the gym. I'm going to, like, fucking crush it. I'm going to. I'm going to really go. And in my. In my head, it seems like it wouldn't be that hard.

[Sierra]

It seems reachable.

[Nick Vile]

It seems. It seems. It seems doable. I'm like. I'm like. I'm like, should I take a before and after? Should I start now?

[Natalie Vile]

Is today at the end, the amount of before photos that I have my.

[Tyler Cameron]

Camera roll, Same girl, same.

[Natalie Vile]

There are so many of them.

[Sierra]

They're all no afters, all Befores.

[Natalie Vile]

I have not finished one before.

[Tyler Cameron]

Yeah, we tried to do 75 hard at the start of last year. Three weeks.

[Nick Vile]

What's that?

[Tyler Cameron]

75 hard is good. You have to do two workouts a day. One of them has to be outside. You have to drink a gallon of water. You have to read. Yeah, hydration.

[Tate Cameron]

I will say though, the hydration thing. People non stop are coming to. Tate, your skin looks.

[Tyler Cameron]

Oh my God.

[Tate Cameron]

What are you doing? What are you doing? Your skin looks amazing.

[Nick Vile]

I. I don't know why I don't embrace something that should be relatively easy.

[Tyler Cameron]

Yeah.

[Nick Vile]

Drinking water.

[Tyler Cameron]

It honestly is so hard though, because you just. Because you have to pee every two seconds, it's.

[Sierra]

But right.

[Tyler Cameron]

The amount of compliments I got on my skin and it does make you feel really good. So I mean, drink your water, people.

[Natalie Vile]

So you just work out twice a day. One has to be outside and drink a gallon of water.

[Tate Cameron]

10 pages of a book.

[Tyler Cameron]

10 pages of a book. It has to be a self help book.

[Nick Vile]

Oh my God.

[Tyler Cameron]

And then what about food?

[Sierra]

What do you eat?

[Tyler Cameron]

Oh, yeah. And then you can pick any diet. So you just, you know, find a diet on Pinterest. I think we tried to do, we tried to do like the Mediterranean diet. You could do Whole 30, whatever you got.

[Tate Cameron]

But we were like, you just have.

[Tyler Cameron]

To stick with it for 75 days.

[Tate Cameron]

It was like 11:30 at night. We're like, shit. We didn't get our workout. So we're like walking the dogs.

[Susie Evans]

Yeah.

[Tyler Cameron]

We like didn't get our second outside workout in, so it was literally like midnight. Like we were like walking around the neighborhood.

[Nick Vile]

Because like the whole mindset is like, is like moments like that where you're like, oh, we still gotta get something in. Even if it's walking your dog.

[Tyler Cameron]

Yep.

[Nick Vile]

It's still like, is just doing the thing that you're committed to.

[Natalie Vile]

At least you'll hold each other accountable. I'd be like, nick, let's just like watch a movie.

[Susie Evans]

Yeah.

[Tyler Cameron]

And then it was his birthday and it just went down the pooper after that.

[Sierra]

So I was gonna say, isn't it like if you miss one day of it, you have to start over back at one?

[Nick Vile]

When you say you have to start over.

[Sierra]

75 hard man in the mirror.

[Natalie Vile]

No.

[Tyler Cameron]

Anyone who's ever finished it that I know, they always say they're like, it was the best thing I ever did.

[Tate Cameron]

Oh yeah. No drinking either.

[Tyler Cameron]

Oh, yeah, no drinking.

[Nick Vile]

No drinking. Well, I'm excited to see what we do this year, babe. Every year we have a Year, I'm always like, I don't know how we could top it, but so far, I know this.

[Natalie Vile]

This will be a good one.

[Tyler Cameron]

I know. I'm excited for this year, too.

[Natalie Vile]

I didn't know how we'd top, like, birth of our daughter wedding.

[Tyler Cameron]

Oh, yeah.

[Natalie Vile]

Like, 2024 was, like, such a great year. And then it was like, how do we top that? Oh, let's just, like, top it. And then we did.

[Tyler Cameron]

Yeah. It's like, oh, here's an idea.

[Natalie Vile]

That was easy.

[Tate Cameron]

Well, I think, like, when y' all did this house here, like, that's an incredible. Like, it's a vile legacy.

[Natalie Vile]

Yeah.

[Nick Vile]

You like the house?

[Tate Cameron]

Plant your.

[Tyler Cameron]

No, it's insane, this house, you guys.

[Tate Cameron]

Yeah. Like, that's an incredible thing to accomplish this year, and you guys should be very proud of that.

[Tyler Cameron]

And all the finishes. I will say, I have been looking around and I. It is exquisite.

[Tate Cameron]

Yeah. It's gonna make our next renovation very expensive, guys. Thank you very much.

[Tyler Cameron]

I'm like, look at these. The detail. Just. There's no.

[Tate Cameron]

No wall unplastered.

[Tyler Cameron]

Yeah. But no tile out of place. Like, everything is so well done. So kudos to you guys.

[Natalie Vile]

Very proud from you guys who do it yourselves. You know.

[Nick Vile]

Our favorite part of the holidays is spending time with our family. From baking cookies, decorating the house, and walking around the neighborhood, everyone seems to be in the holiday spirit. And there's nothing that gets us in the spirit more than a Starbucks holiday beverage.

[Natalie Vile]

Now that we have River, I'm really trying to create memories and traditions that she will carry on throughout her life. And something that I'm really loving doing. We did it last year, and obviously we're going to do it again this year, but it's going to Starbucks, getting a holiday drink, and then driving through the neighborhoods and, like, looking at all the Christmas lights on all the houses and seeing all the houses decorated and, like, the blow ups in everyone's front yard and, like, sipping on our warm, hot.

[Nick Vile]

I look forward to that holiday drink also. Back in my sales days when I worked from home, I'd always go to a Starbucks and work because I wanted to get out of the house. And definitely during the holiday season, I get my peppermint mocha, and you just kind of see people coming in, like, different. You kind of feel the holiday energy with people coming in during Christmas time. It was always really enjoyable. I really had to get out of the house when I was stuck at home working.

[Natalie Vile]

Well, the Peppermint Mocha is a Starbucks signature espresso combined with steamed milk, mocha sauce and peppermint flavored syrup is topped with whipped cream and dark chocolate curls. What more could you ask for?

[Sierra]

Delicious.

[Nick Vile]

It's honestly how I learned to drink coffee. This was my first Starbucks coffee.

[Susie Evans]

Peppermint mocha. Yeah, we used to when I worked there we would put ristretto shots in it and we would mod it a bit.

[Nick Vile]

Well, it was a white chocolate mocha and then during the holiday season I transferred over to the peppermint.

[Sierra]

There's nobody better feeling than when the.

[Tyler Cameron]

Cups turn red at Starbucks.

[Tate Cameron]

I know.

[Natalie Vile]

That is so true. Another favorite of mine is the Caramel Brulee latte. That one is so good.

[Tyler Cameron]

Yeah, that's my favorite.

[Natalie Vile]

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[Justin]

Roll into yeah, I was gonna say, speaking of expensive, did you guys see the Anthropology Rock trend?

[Sierra]

Yeah.

[Susie Evans]

Did anyone get an Anthropology Rock?

[Sierra]

I wish.

[Natalie Vile]

You know I did not get what.

[Sierra]

Is the trend out there?

[Natalie Vile]

Darn it, you know, just some silly girls are getting together and they're like, like pranking their families and going out and picking a rock from the yard and then being like, oh, my gosh, this is what I've been wanting. It's been sold out. I've been on the wait list. How did you find it? It's so expensive. And then all the men are like.

[Nick Vile]

It'S just a rock.

[Tyler Cameron]

Yeah. They're like, it's not just a rock. SpongeBob. Anyone.

[Nick Vile]

But, like, who? What's the point? Who's tricking?

[Tyler Cameron]

We're tricking the guy. Well, guys always think girls are interested in just really dumb things. Like, we get very excited, which I think is.

[Nick Vile]

I would never say that.

[Tyler Cameron]

I think it's beautiful the way that girls get giddy about very simple dumb things.

[Nick Vile]

We also get no giddy about simple.

[Tyler Cameron]

Maybe you, Nick. Tyler's like, that's dumb as hell.

[Sierra]

Nick is a really good giddy.

[Tyler Cameron]

I want to describe Nick as getting giddy.

[Nick Vile]

I don't know what giddy means, but, like, I do get excited sometimes. But like, sports, like, yeah, go sports.

[Tate Cameron]

Here's my question. What is the. The real life version of that rock? Like, for women or for men?

[Tyler Cameron]

That's a good question.

[Nick Vile]

Most things.

[Sierra]

Skin care.

[Tyler Cameron]

This also would have been very funny for you and I to do to Nick if I would have thought about it.

[Sierra]

Oh, look at the exchanged.

[Tyler Cameron]

Like, visited. Like, I brought this to you.

[Natalie Vile]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Wow. Yeah.

[Tyler Cameron]

We should have planned ahead instead. I just burnt your kettle.

[Nick Vile]

I would have been like, put on the mantle. If it's worth that much.

[Natalie Vile]

Nick would have been like, period. Wow.

[Sierra]

Good job.

[Natalie Vile]

Finding that Tate.

[Nick Vile]

He would come to the lake has been like, in this rock. Honestly, maybe the best piece here.

[Tyler Cameron]

We just never tell him it's got like the box with, like, the light inside of it, like, glowing.

[Nick Vile]

I can be gaslit. I can.

[Natalie Vile]

Yeah.

[Justin]

The cute thing about that trend is that the power of a mom or a woman, like, improving. Like, they bring out the. The tears, the Oscar winning acting, like effortless.

[Susie Evans]

Yes.

[Natalie Vile]

Hand.

[Sierra]

Exactly.

[Susie Evans]

Yes.

[Sierra]

Which also, like, it kind of is a little frightening because those are the women that raised us, you know? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Susie Evans]

The way they can switch on a dime.

[Tyler Cameron]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's terrifying. Yeah.

[Natalie Vile]

But I feel like maybe it is a good thing.

[Tyler Cameron]

It is.

[Nick Vile]

Yeah.

[Sierra]

That's true.

[Tate Cameron]

I feel like for men, it's like playing cards. Like sports. Like, sports cards. Even memorabilia.

[Sierra]

Memorabilia.

[Susie Evans]

Oh, yeah.

[Tyler Cameron]

That's stupid.

[Tate Cameron]

Tate. I've bought an auction. I bought all this sports memorabilia. And Tate's like, that is the dumbest thing ever.

[Sierra]

No.

[Natalie Vile]

I feel like it's like Yalls fantasy football. Y' all are like, oh, sick my. I'm in the playoffs. And it's like, no, you're not.

[Nick Vile]

Well, no, you're not.

[Natalie Vile]

You're on your couch.

[Nick Vile]

You get to win money and talk.

[Tyler Cameron]

Also, I think the rock is equivalent, which. So sorry. People love this, but Labubu.

[Natalie Vile]

Yeah. So true.

[Susie Evans]

Yeah.

[Nick Vile]

Basically any stuffed animal.

[Tyler Cameron]

Yeah.

[Nick Vile]

That it has any type of additional value.

[Natalie Vile]

Yeah.

[Nick Vile]

Other than the 13.99 it should cost.

[Tyler Cameron]

Yes. NFTs like my parents used to collect Beanie Babies.

[Sierra]

Pokemon cards.

[Susie Evans]

Okay.

[Justin]

Don't.

[Susie Evans]

Not too much on Pokemon cards.

[Tate Cameron]

Someone just got offended over Pokemon cards.

[Sierra]

Yeah, I said Pokemon cards in a little bit.

[Susie Evans]

I don't think they're worth anything, but I think they're cool.

[Nick Vile]

Listen, it is worth what you're willing to pay for it, period.

[Sierra]

Yeah. That's a life lesson.

[Tyler Cameron]

Yeah. It's beautiful.

[Sierra]

Do you remember back in the day, like on ebay, like people would be putting up like Justin Timberlake's chewed gum or like.

[Tyler Cameron]

Yes.

[Sierra]

Like hair from a haircut.

[Tyler Cameron]

Like a used tissue.

[Nick Vile]

Yeah.

[Sierra]

And It'd be like 13,000, 20,000. One influencer. I remember did her face mask and somebody bought it for over a million dollars. I'm like creeps.

[Nick Vile]

I've been collecting Tyler Cameron tissues since he's been up at the lake.

[Natalie Vile]

And those will be up on.

[Susie Evans]

Hey, Jack Staler made a lot of money from doing stuff like this.

[Natalie Vile]

Don't knock them out. For those who are curious.

[Nick Vile]

Do you have a wiki Wiki fee? Score.

[Natalie Vile]

It's got to be bad.

[Tate Cameron]

Yeah. Five, zero. Look at these dogs.

[Sierra]

That's good. No, five is actually so scary.

[Tate Cameron]

Someone Google it.

[Natalie Vile]

It's got to be.

[Sierra]

Let's check it out.

[Natalie Vile]

Oh, y' all got it over there.

[Sierra]

We're going to look it up.

[Nick Vile]

Do we have a foot off?

[Tyler Cameron]

Yeah, that's second.

[Tate Cameron]

Nick. You got big feet.

[Natalie Vile]

You know that's how shoe you were.

[Tyler Cameron]

He's also tall like you. Would be weird if he had tiny feet. Like this big tall man with little tiny feet.

[Tate Cameron]

But he's thick feet.

[Tyler Cameron]

What?

[Natalie Vile]

You know what that means?

[Sierra]

Okay.

[Tate Cameron]

His big toe makes my little toe look small, don't it?

[Tyler Cameron]

Five stars.

[Natalie Vile]

Oh my goodness. He has five stars.

[Sierra]

Cameron is five out of five stars. Not even a four point Tyler does.

[Natalie Vile]

He have Tyler's though?

[Nick Vile]

That's just because you're a fan favorite, bro. That's bullshit.

[Justin]

It's five star. It's Five stars. And then it has a screenshot from our interview with you, like, a year ago.

[Tate Cameron]

No, I was wondering if I was barefoot in that interview.

[Nick Vile]

Do you always show your feet on the show?

[Sierra]

Oh, my God, you're naked.

[Natalie Vile]

Do you ever wear shoes?

[Sierra]

Oh, yeah, that's happened here.

[Tyler Cameron]

I mean, he came on naked one time, so I doubt.

[Sierra]

No, this. There it is on Wikifeet with a black box.

[Natalie Vile]

Oh, yeah.

[Sierra]

Okay, let's look up Nick.

[Nick Vile]

But these are proportioned.

[Tate Cameron]

Nick's got a piece of his. If that's the case.

[Justin]

4.98.

[Nick Vile]

What?

[Sierra]

4.9 is pretty good.

[Natalie Vile]

4.9. Who's a 9?

[Tyler Cameron]

8 out of 5.

[Natalie Vile]

There's just no way that that second toe is beating. My man's perfectly slanted.

[Tate Cameron]

That's a kink for some, you know.

[Natalie Vile]

Oh, I guess.

[Sierra]

All right, well, we. We're sending the people now. Like, go put your votes in. There's lots of.

[Nick Vile]

Get back to a 5.0 if you get.

[Sierra]

No, but we could take Tyler down.

[Susie Evans]

We can even out the score.

[Sierra]

I'm not trying to be that person, but. But my. My wiki score is really low, so.

[Susie Evans]

Please take both of them out.

[Natalie Vile]

Steve's trying to get on the couch. He cannot figure out where to put his foot. Oh. Oh, no.

[Tyler Cameron]

Oh, here we go.

[Susie Evans]

Hi, Steve.

[Nick Vile]

We.

[Tyler Cameron]

Okay, figured it out.

[Nick Vile]

Here we go. All right, what else we got?

[Tate Cameron]

This is how we sleep in our.

[Natalie Vile]

Bed, by the way, with all three of Yalls dogs.

[Justin]

Have you guys been seeing Taylor, Frankie, Paul, like, post wrapping the Bachelorette?

[Nick Vile]

No. She's back. She's done.

[Natalie Vile]

She's feeding the frenzy, and I love it.

[Tyler Cameron]

As we knew she would.

[Natalie Vile]

I am eating it up to pieces.

[Nick Vile]

Ah. I think it's gonna be a pretty good season.

[Tyler Cameron]

I think it's gonna be the best.

[Susie Evans]

Season it can be.

[Nick Vile]

We've heard some stuff, and we can't say much, but if what we heard is true and we have no reason to think it's not, not Buckle up.

[Natalie Vile]

Buckle up.

[Nick Vile]

That it will be. It's giving. It's giving. It's giving aspects that made a Hannah Brown season electric and things that made that season really work.

[Natalie Vile]

Who was the runner up on her season?

[Tyler Cameron]

Didn't.

[Natalie Vile]

He, like, sucked.

[Nick Vile]

Yeah.

[Tate Cameron]

Oh, he's washed.

[Nick Vile]

Washed up. But, yeah, I'm excited. It seems. It seems like Taylor really embraced the role. And more than anything, I mean, she also posted throughout and engaged a lot with production, which tells me that she was like. She is a TV star, and unlike some other seasons where it's just like they're kind of getting a civilian who doesn't know how this works. And it's a weird conversation to go to someone and say, hey, listen, we really care about you and your love story. We do. It is a priority.

[Natalie Vile]

But.

[Nick Vile]

But we're also making a TV show, so, like, let's do this together. And there's some give and take, a little bit of that. And just to be able to understand that, like, obviously Taylor gets that. She's a pro. You know, it's old hat for her. It's harder for some people who are the leads to really get that early on. And it just kind of. Taylor's kind of suggesting that she's really amenable to, like, just being collaborative and allowing things to happen. Even, you know, because most people are so worried, how is this gonna look? How's this gonna look? What are people gonna think? How's this gonna look? And I think Taylor is.

[Tyler Cameron]

Yeah, I think that's.

[Nick Vile]

She's gonna do her best.

[Natalie Vile]

Yes.

[Tyler Cameron]

And she's gonna let people in on the tea.

[Nick Vile]

She's doing her part.

[Tate Cameron]

I think she's also gonna modernize the show. Like, I think next year we'll see the Bachelor doing a lot of stuff while filming and the Bachelorette doing a lot of stuff while filming because it keeps generating buzz. Before, they would just go off the map and then we'd get a season and we didn't really know who this person was because we didn't get to see them a lot on the last season. And that's all we get of them. So I think this is, like, really a cool way of doing it.

[Natalie Vile]

And it's so interesting. She's really been posting with, like, all of her producers. Like, she, like, like, shabby has been in, like, every single one of her. Her tiktoks. And it just really shows, like, yeah, that like, this is a TV show.

[Nick Vile]

She trusts them.

[Tate Cameron]

It's a new era.

[Sierra]

Yes.

[Justin]

Yeah.

[Sierra]

But I also think her being mom talk and everything, it's like she knows how to tease aspects of her life and not share too much. So it's like she was the perfect professional for this.

[Tyler Cameron]

Yes.

[Sierra]

She recently posted a reel saying me reading all the assumptions of what happened and can't speak a word on it. The caption was. Let's just say I myself was shocked. And it's like, what were you shocked by? Did you get engaged? Did you not? Like, she knows how to, like, get us already being like, march can't come quick enough.

[Susie Evans]

She's also. She's also pulling A classic with. With Taylor and Dakota doing, like, Dakota commenting on her post, being like, can we finally be friends again? And then Taylor responded with friends. Sounds like a really great fresh start. And then within 24 hours, they unfollowed each other again.

[Natalie Vile]

Beautiful.

[Tyler Cameron]

She was amazing. I love it.

[Nick Vile]

If Taylor chef's kiss never changed, or even if she's just not. She just has a boyfriend, imagine what it's going to be like for him to enter into her world where Dakota exists. I'm guessing they're going to be filming.

[Tate Cameron]

I'm guessing dream job is Dakota, the ex.

[Tyler Cameron]

Yeah.

[Tate Cameron]

Wow.

[Tyler Cameron]

You're really.

[Sierra]

Yeah.

[Natalie Vile]

And I would imagine he would still film.

[Justin]

Be on the show.

[Nick Vile]

I'm assuming it's going to be like, hey, I do this thing. This is my life. And that's kind of part of the now. He could always be like, hey, I'm a little comfortable, but can we slow play that? I mean, maybe he says that maybe.

[Tyler Cameron]

She seems more of a straight shooter, though, where she's like, hey, this is my world. Either come in it or don't. But like, yeah, like, I feel like.

[Natalie Vile]

This was a very big topic of conversation throughout the season of Bachelorette. Like, I feel like we're going to see a lot of conversations of her being like, you're coming to Utah. I have three kids. You're filming this show. Like, this is what my life is.

[Nick Vile]

The Utah kids program. That's, you know, heavy for some, but like. But also typical. But a TV show is like, how do you. I mean, he's already there filming a TV show, so maybe.

[Tate Cameron]

But also, like, you can't. Like, if. I feel like if you're at that point. Right. You're on the show, you're accepting that she has kids, you're accepting that she's lives in Utah. That's probably where your life's going. Like, if you start, like, backing out of it while you're on the show, you're gonna look like an ass.

[Susie Evans]

Yeah.

[Tyler Cameron]

It's like, those are two very well known things. I also. Sorry. Go ahead.

[Natalie Vile]

Like, announcing her before they casted, you know, was like, obviously the smartest thing they could have done because it's like, who you're signing up to date, you know what their life is.

[Tyler Cameron]

Yes. Also at the end of each season, I feel like even though the lead has a little bit more, you know, star power at the time, but at the same time, it's kind of this new thing for both of them where this time I feel like it's a little bit different where she's already, like, a big star. She's already been in this light. It's gonna be such a drastic change for the guy, more so obviously than her who's already been in it, where. I don't know if that would be different. Where it's like, you kind of go through it together rather than.

[Sierra]

Yeah.

[Tate Cameron]

I had a few buddies, so before this, they were, like, trying to film, like, the Bachelor season for Taylor season. And I feel like they were trying to do, like, the everyday guy to become the Bachelor, like, pluck someone random out of America. And I had, like, three buddies that were interviewing, and, like, one got really, really far, and then they flipped to Taylor, and then they called them all back. Do you want to come be on Taylor's show? And I think they were all. All of them said no. And I think because all of them were all very intimidated by who Taylor is and what that lifestyle or what that life could be. I told them they're idiots. I was like, y' all got to go on the Taylor sweepstakes.

[Susie Evans]

Yeah.

[Tate Cameron]

This could be sick. This could change your life.

[Natalie Vile]

How did you have three people in the running for that?

[Tate Cameron]

I got some good guys.

[Natalie Vile]

You know, everybody.

[Tate Cameron]

I got some good guys.

[Tyler Cameron]

Listen. She's a bad bitch. Like, it. She is intimidating. I'd be intimidated if I was a guy.

[Susie Evans]

Do you guys think that Brooks Nader would be a good bachelorette?

[Sierra]

Yes, I do.

[Nick Vile]

Yeah, probably.

[Sierra]

Yeah.

[Justin]

Yeah.

[Sierra]

She's star power.

[Tate Cameron]

Those conversations are hilarious.

[Nick Vile]

Yeah.

[Susie Evans]

She's always in the headlines. Most recently, Naomi from Southern Charm is engaged to her ex Billy.

[Sierra]

Is Billy the golfer or.

[Justin]

Or what?

[Tate Cameron]

He's a finance guy.

[Sierra]

Who's Billy?

[Natalie Vile]

Yeah, okay.

[Sierra]

Finance guy, you know?

[Nick Vile]

Yeah. How do you know him?

[Tate Cameron]

Played blackjack with him and. Because I knew them when they were married. And then.

[Sierra]

High rollers table.

[Tate Cameron]

No, no, no. Small guy table. That's why Brooke left. We were not in the high roller room. But, yeah, like, he was always, like, a nice guy, but I think they get. They got married when she was, like, 20 or something.

[Susie Evans]

Yeah, like, yeah, yeah.

[Tate Cameron]

She's a baby, you know? And now she's a superstar.

[Sierra]

Kind of funny, too, because Craig was just on Watch what Happens live, and Andy was trying to say that he wanted to set. Sorry. Brooks was on Watch what Happens live and wanted to set Brooks and Craig up. And then she was like, I don't know who that is. I don't know who that means. And it's like his ex is now.

[Susie Evans]

Engaged to her ex, so she knows who he is.

[Natalie Vile]

Well, I think we also debunked that she probably does know who he is because she was like, my hairstylist does Paige's hair. And then it's like, well, if you know Paige, then you know Paige and Craig. And about the breakup, I think she probably was just like, I haven't like.

[Nick Vile]

She'S been a little snarky.

[Natalie Vile]

Been in the. Yeah, Like, I don't see him. I don't know that man. Kiki Palmer talking to that man. I do not know that man.

[Susie Evans]

Sorry to that man.

[Nick Vile]

But what was the thing you guys sent in the group chat about what Craig posted?

[Justin]

Oh, I sent it. I mean, I've said, honestly, I think he's iconic in different ways when he does this, but he's in his era of, like, rage, responding to comments on TikTok. He posted a TikTok of him working out, and it said, don't forget to have fun. None of this shit really matters. Someone commented, craig, this scared me. And then he responded with a long essay, basically. And I'm just like, he's in an era of reading comments and, like, clapping back.

[Sierra]

The edit was interesting. It was like giving Kapka edit with, like, lots of flash photography and, like, little slow mo glitch effects. Yeah.

[Natalie Vile]

He commented back with his edits.

[Sierra]

He commented back to Craig, this scared me with what part of it saying life is too short and to not forget to have fun. That shouldn't scare you. It should motivate you. The Internet isn't real. Neither are the gossip circles that live on it. Short dopamine hits with online from online interactions isn't what life is about. Go on an adventure. Go laugh with someone. No one plans on getting in a car accident. Never know how much time you have left. Oh.

[Tyler Cameron]

Period.

[Nick Vile]

He spent some baby.

[Tate Cameron]

It's like a boomer.

[Susie Evans]

Okay, Craig.

[Tate Cameron]

Hell yeah.

[Natalie Vile]

It's giving, like.

[Tyler Cameron]

Facebook for sure.

[Sierra]

Yeah.

[Tate Cameron]

Yes.

[Susie Evans]

I like Boomer Craig. Boomer Craig works better for me than, like, boy Craig.

[Sierra]

And you start to realize, like, it's. It makes sense what he's saying. It's like, yeah, you're. You're totally valid. It's like, yeah, grandpa, you're right.

[Nick Vile]

Yeah.

[Natalie Vile]

I just wish they were maybe like, shorter and sweeter and snarkier responses if he's gonna respond, you know, like, we don't need the.

[Nick Vile]

Like, would like a little bit more wit from Craig.

[Natalie Vile]

I would. I would like. Yeah, I'd like to maybe just motivational speaker in there.

[Tyler Cameron]

Yeah.

[Susie Evans]

I would argue that.

[Nick Vile]

And I'm like, you know what? That's a thoughtful response.

[Natalie Vile]

He takes everything to heart. And he.

[Sierra]

I feel like, sensitive guy that.

[Nick Vile]

He's very earnest.

[Natalie Vile]

Yeah. And it's.

[Susie Evans]

That is what makes it great, though. Like, the earnest. Like, you don't really get, like, an earnest guy like that.

[Sierra]

An earnest influencer in reality, like, especially.

[Susie Evans]

On, like, Southern charm and stuff, too. They're all like, craig is gonna be earnest. Whether or not you like that, I don't know.

[Nick Vile]

But if it's. You know, he's got a. Well, no. Yes. But I'm just saying, in general, if I'm defending Craig, you know, he's got all these people, like, talking about him, chirping him.

[Tyler Cameron]

Yeah.

[Nick Vile]

It's definitely better to just not ignore it.

[Tyler Cameron]

Yes.

[Nick Vile]

If he needs to, like, let it out.

[Tyler Cameron]

Yeah.

[Tate Cameron]

What are you saying? Yes.

[Sierra]

This is a good outlet.

[Tate Cameron]

Give you two beers. You're clapping back at everybody in the comments.

[Tyler Cameron]

Yeah, but I'm funny. Yeah.

[Natalie Vile]

Tate is funny. Yeah.

[Nick Vile]

You're clapping back.

[Tate Cameron]

Oh, my God, yes.

[Tyler Cameron]

Yeah. One day I was just like, I know you tell me not to, but let me just live for a second.

[Natalie Vile]

Let me cook. Yeah.

[Tyler Cameron]

Just for just a minute.

[Tate Cameron]

But it wasn't just her, because we were all at, like, Like, Buffalo Wild Wings with her family.

[Natalie Vile]

Not at B Dubs.

[Tate Cameron]

And we were all getting those. Those Miller lights. And Tate was. She starts ripping somebody, then Emmy, and then, like, the whole family starts just chirping. Everybody in the. I'm like, this is crazy.

[Tyler Cameron]

I will say the comments seemed funnier the night before. Like, the next, you know, like, you're with your family. Everyone's laughing. We're like, God, we're getting them good. And then you wake up the next morning, you're like, wow, that really didn't land the way I thought it did.

[Natalie Vile]

Yeah, you're like, one day you're not gonna be here any longer, and you're gonna wish.

[Nick Vile]

No, that's like going back and reading your old Instagram comments when you thought you're like, oh, my. This comment slayed exactly so funny. And you're like, what the fuck does this even mean?

[Tyler Cameron]

The old Facebook statuses were the worst.

[Nick Vile]

I still wish I could rate my friends on MySpace. Oh, yeah, that would be rate siblings.

[Tate Cameron]

Yeah.

[Tyler Cameron]

That was savage.

[Natalie Vile]

Well, now it is time for a new and exciting segment called Sweet, Spicy and sour with Thrive Market. This is how it's going to work. We Thrive Market box filled with sweet, spicy and sour snacks. As we eat each of these incredible and healthier alternative snacks, we will share what we thought was the sweetest spiciest, and most sour moments from reality TV or headlines from the week.

[Nick Vile]

Well, I just love Thrive Market because it makes my wife's life easier, which makes my life easier. You know, as parents now, we care about healthy eating. I'm taking. I'm doing less sugar, Rivers snacking. She's snacking a lot. And we want to make sure we have healthy ingredients, and we get. Get that all from Thrive and so much more. They do the ingredient vetting for you. They only carry trusted brands, so you don't have to micromanage your ingredient reading. You know? You know, you can just know that anything that Thrive has, it's probably good for you.

[Natalie Vile]

My favorite part is the Healthy Swap Scanner, because I'm always, like, in the grocery store or looking at stuff online and finding things that I'm like, oh, I wonder if river would like this. And I don't have the time or the eyes to read the ingredient list. And so I just put it into Thrive Markets Healthy Swap scanner, and it gives me a better alternative. I found goodles from them, which is Mac and cheese with protein in it, and river absolutely loves it. So we are big Thrive Market fans in this household. Well, I am going to start off with our sweet moment. I first of all, the pips twist, the cinnamon sugar twist very much remind me I was a big fan of the Taco Bell cinnamon twists, which who knows what they're putting in those, you know what I'm saying? But trusted from Thrive Market, these are made with avocado oil. They're gluten free. They're just, like, full of deliciousness. And river absolutely loves them. And it's reminding me of Jen Affleck getting gifted her Dancing with the Stars dress from her husband Zach.

[Nick Vile]

Which dress was it?

[Natalie Vile]

Sweet. Her favorite one.

[Tyler Cameron]

Her favorite one.

[Nick Vile]

Oh, that one.

[Tyler Cameron]

Yeah, it was with the.

[Susie Evans]

I loved that one.

[Nick Vile]

That's a great. That's a great.

[Sierra]

The fringe.

[Tyler Cameron]

The gold fringe one.

[Nick Vile]

Really?

[Tyler Cameron]

We loved that one.

[Sierra]

Iconic.

[Nick Vile]

Yeah.

[Sierra]

Zach has really won me back with that Rivers.

[Nick Vile]

One of our favorite snacks there is what she refers to as the hop hop. The Annie's Sour Bunnies gummies with real fruit juice. We found that Ashley Darby, the queen that she is, had a little makeout sesh and maybe more with Shareese's son. I get it. Honestly.

[Tyler Cameron]

Honestly, good for her.

[Natalie Vile]

They're 10 years apart. It like he's of age. Yeah, he's hot. She's hot. I. Are they even, like, really that good of friends? You know? And Shareese didn't seem that Bothered by it, but it was a little sour on Ashley.

[Nick Vile]

Ashley's heart, but also a little sweet, which these gummies also are. You get a little tangy. You're like, Izzy. You're like, ooh, ooh. You know, it's that. And it's right in line with Ashley making out with a model. You could say her friend's son. I might just say a hot model.

[Tyler Cameron]

Yeah.

[Tate Cameron]

I got the spicy jalapeno, and it reminds me of Christmas morning on the beanbag in Tate's basement.

[Tyler Cameron]

Okay, relax.

[Sierra]

You heard it here first.

[Natalie Vile]

It was a Christmas miracle Christmas present indeed.

[Tate Cameron]

She's, like, got me excited.

[Natalie Vile]

It was spicy jalapeno.

[Susie Evans]

Okay, I will say, these chips are really, really good.

[Sierra]

How spicy are they?

[Susie Evans]

They're like, a little spicy, a little sweet. They're delicious. And it reminds me of the sweet moment with Tia and her half sister in Potomac. That's my sweet moment of the week.

[Sierra]

I love that.

[Tyler Cameron]

Yeah.

[Sierra]

What are they made with? Oh, it says gluten free, soy free.

[Susie Evans]

Soy free, nut free, dairy free.

[Sierra]

What do they have? Taste. Well, I feel like mine could go spicy or sweet, but Kim Kardashian, spending over a hundred thousand dollars on a Christmas gift. I believe for Courtney, she got the Pee Wee Herman red bicycle.

[Tyler Cameron]

Wait, wait, the actual Pee Wee Herman?

[Sierra]

I think the actual. I mean, that's what I would assume. Unless they're selling dupes for 100k, but.

[Susie Evans]

But that's crazy.

[Sierra]

125, I think.

[Nick Vile]

Well, I don't know if it's. It's probably mostly in the sweet category, but I think really just more. I'm going to call it the. I'm going to pivot. It's just the classic. It's reliable. You can always count on it. It's applesauce and some wonderful, convenient pouches. Again, a river staple. Just like our friends Dakota and Taylor, Frankie Paul, who just classically will, like, continue to give us drama. They'll serve it up when we think they're moved on. They'll find their way back, even if it's just friends or not friends or.

[Tyler Cameron]

Friends for 24 hours.

[Nick Vile]

It's hard to tell, but always reliable. Always there for you. Dakota and Taylor, Frankie Paul and applesauce.

[Natalie Vile]

And the Thrive Market. Organic applesauce is so good because it is literally zero sugar added.

[Nick Vile]

A lot of zeros up in here. Zero added sugars. We love that.

[Natalie Vile]

Well, thank you, Thrive Market, for sponsoring this segment. This segment is presented by Thrive market. Head to thrivemarket.comvile to explore better snacks and pantry options get 30% off your first order plus a free 60 gift. Join Thrive Market with our link thrive market.comv for 30% off your first order Plus a free $60 gift. Now it is time to put away these snacks and get into some Real Housewives of Potomac. Well, if you missed the most recent episode of the Real Housewives of Potomac, we do have a rapid recap reminder. Angel has Airbnb drama and may be getting evicted because she was maybe only staying in Potomac for the show. Therefore, angel is mad that she's being made to play PE games after having eviction allegations thrown around. Stacy is mad that Charisse would talk to her while wearing lingerie to a family event, but she does like being saucy with Timu while working out. Also, apparently Ashley Darby made out with Cherise's son Jackson, and everyone finds it extra weird that she told Cherise about it. Wendy and Eddie's next step in their renovation? A pool and also a closer relationship with Wendy's dad. They also have black toilet paper. Paper Kay and Greg are officially, officially moving back in together again. To celebrate, he got her a fancy picture frame. Also, the condo is still in her name. Tia has a half sister that is also cool and British that she found out about in high school. Wendy's mom is really mad that she's talking to her dad and they get into a huge fight when he's upset that her sister always takes her mom's side. Anyway, Merry Christmas. That was a crazy fight between the.

[Sierra]

End of the episode was so sad.

[Susie Evans]

It was really sad.

[Sierra]

It was sad.

[Susie Evans]

It just, it felt, I think especially watching it, like after spending the holidays and stuff with family and obviously, whatever. It was just like, I think it.

[Natalie Vile]

Was also family dynamics for me, the.

[Sierra]

Turnaround from like, I spend your money, like, it's so funny, like with everything that's going on with Wendy and then it's like to see like that's also part of their relationship and she can't express wanting to have a relationship with her dad without it triggering her mom. And I'm just like, I don't know. It was really sad to watch that.

[Natalie Vile]

It is sad that, like, you know, I felt like my mom did a really great job. My parents divorced when I was very young. My dad was not very much around, but my mom always did a great job of like supporting whatever relationship I were to have with my dad. You know, it's like whatever you want to do, whatever makes you feel good and loved and cared for. Like, you do that. I'm Gonna hold back my feelings about it. But, like, Wendy's mom couldn't do that. And she just, like, immediately got fired up and immediately was like, he did nothing. He was a sperm donor. Like, how dare you talk to him? And it's like, just.

[Sierra]

Just.

[Natalie Vile]

Why? Let's just be, like, happy that she's building a relationship.

[Nick Vile]

I totally get where her mom is triggered.

[Sierra]

Same.

[Nick Vile]

But yeah, like, how. Like, you said, how your. How your mom handled it seems to be. I think it was crazy when her mom didn't even want Wendy to send her kids upstairs. Who, like, didn't want her kids to just like, you guys don't need to hear this shit, you know, Like. Which totally respect Wendy doing. Thought that was great that Wendy did that. And her mom just, like.

[Natalie Vile]

Like, yeah, it kind.

[Tyler Cameron]

Did.

[Natalie Vile]

It kind of feel like Wendy was calling her on, like, having her, like, having her moment on the show, like, being like, you're doing this because you're miked up and in front of cameras and you want a moment.

[Sierra]

Yeah, 100%. She did. She said, you're doing all of this. You're crying. It's like, where is this even coming from? And it was very dramatic.

[Justin]

Yeah.

[Nick Vile]

Yeah. Because you clock that, you know, you. I'm sure you've. You've made some TV with people where you're just like, what are you. What are you doing?

[Tate Cameron]

For sure.

[Sierra]

Yeah.

[Tate Cameron]

Even on the Bachelor, everyone, like, in their. Like, I remember. I'm not gonna say his name, but he's, like, giving his SOP story to. To Hannah, and it's about, like, how he usually gets $20 for lunch every day, and then his family had to cut it to 10. What? And I'm like, that's what.

[Nick Vile]

We're very specific.

[Tate Cameron]

That's what we're going with also.

[Natalie Vile]

$20 for lunch?

[Nick Vile]

Yeah.

[Tyler Cameron]

Like, what are you getting?

[Natalie Vile]

10. Okay.

[Nick Vile]

You got 10. I didn't get any money.

[Tyler Cameron]

I know.

[Nick Vile]

I was bartered. I was like, I. I.

[Tate Cameron]

Lunch.

[Natalie Vile]

The lunchroom was always like, natalie, you're in debt.

[Tyler Cameron]

No, seriously, like, just let your parents know. Let your parents know. You do have an outstanding balance.

[Natalie Vile]

You won't be able to eat lunch tomorrow if you don't bring us a check.

[Nick Vile]

I know. He's just begging for food.

[Tyler Cameron]

Yeah. I do think it's really selfless when moms can do that, though, when they can put aside their own feelings and emotions and just allow their children to kind of. Because at the end of the day, like, if, you know their dad is a piece of shit, they're gonna Figure it out eventually. But I think it is so cool when moms are able to do that.

[Nick Vile]

And to that point, it's just like, don't fight your battles if you have other people fighting them for you, so to speak. Even if it's the people making themselves look bad. So if you're the parent who is doing all the things, obviously, I'm sure there's gonna be moments where things happen where you feel like someone's getting credit or even appreciation or love, where you're like, you don't deserve any of that shit.

[Justin]

Absolutely.

[Nick Vile]

And I'm sure that's triggering because I'm sure you've. There are a lot of parents, single parents have been in the weeds there. But, like, just let them. They're gonna disappoint them. You know they are. Let them do that. Then you, like. Compared to that, you're the hero. Don't be the parent who's trying to pull them away.

[Tyler Cameron]

Cause then it creates resentment on their end.

[Nick Vile]

And it only takes one, like, the other parent to even suggest. Well, you don't know. There's two sides to every story.

[Susie Evans]

Yes.

[Nick Vile]

And you don't know what they were like. And then they. And then give them that thing where they, you know. Especially if you, like, get caught.

[Tyler Cameron]

Yeah, yeah. Just let it reveal itself and then be there if it does go to.

[Sierra]

Shape when it falls apart.

[Tyler Cameron]

Yes.

[Nick Vile]

Yeah. In case you're wondering, Wendy's mom.

[Sierra]

Yeah, Right. In case you're listening.

[Natalie Vile]

Also, Greg getting K the picture frame.

[Sierra]

But it was the lead in before with the. Oh, I disguise this as something else. Like, it's like, okay, you know that she wants an engagement ring. So, yeah. Opening it up to a heart frame.

[Natalie Vile]

And doing the flashback to them at the jewelry store where they're looking at engagement rings and then being like, oh, you only left with a heart frame.

[Sierra]

That was wild. He was looking at some rocks.

[Susie Evans]

Yeah.

[Sierra]

Like, to put her first picture in. Moving in together.

[Tate Cameron]

Yeah.

[Tyler Cameron]

That's tough.

[Tate Cameron]

But they don't have a picture together. And what they're talking about, engagement rings.

[Natalie Vile]

I guess they're like. They're moving in together, so they're gonna frame their first photo to put in their house together.

[Sierra]

But then I also love how it goes straight into a serious conversation about, like, deeds to the house. And, like, is my name gonna be put on things? And he was like, I don't. When you're.

[Natalie Vile]

We don't. It's all the same, you know, I don't even want to live here that long. So we're Gonna be moving anyways. I wouldn't worry about it. And then she was like, yeah, you.

[Sierra]

Said like five years. Like, maybe like five, six. So I'm like, so no, we're not gonna add her name to the deed then.

[Susie Evans]

Yeah.

[Natalie Vile]

He gives, like, non committal. Very much so.

[Sierra]

To everyone. But Kay.

[Natalie Vile]

Yeah.

[Sierra]

Because Giselle's saying it. Giselle doesn't think that he's going to propose at all. I mean, we saw him, like, because didn't he take her mom to go shopping? It was like her mom and Charisse.

[Natalie Vile]

So it's her mom and Tia.

[Sierra]

Her mom and Tia. So it's like you're putting it out there that that could slip that that's what you're doing. And yet here's a picture frame of hearts.

[Nick Vile]

Do you ever hook up with a friend's mom? Mom.

[Tate Cameron]

The friend's mom.

[Justin]

No.

[Tate Cameron]

No.

[Natalie Vile]

Shocking would be. Yeah. Stories that you tell Tyler.

[Susie Evans]

That is shocking.

[Natalie Vile]

No, that would be way too far.

[Tyler Cameron]

Yeah. That's where he draws the line.

[Natalie Vile]

Boundaries. Did you.

[Sierra]

Hesitated a little quietly?

[Nick Vile]

No, because that's not even what that this would be.

[Sierra]

I will say, I think it's kind of fun.

[Nick Vile]

How.

[Sierra]

How old is Ashley? Do we know what's.

[Natalie Vile]

She's 37. 37.

[Sierra]

He's 27.

[Natalie Vile]

I was gonna say.

[Sierra]

I feel like I'm right at that age where. Where I could be with you or your dad.

[Tyler Cameron]

You know what I mean?

[Sierra]

It's a really fun age to be, and it's really empowering. I don't.

[Natalie Vile]

I'm just, like, thinking out loud about that.

[Sierra]

I love that for you, Susie. Yeah. Like, it could, you know, I'm not saying I am, but. But you could. But I could if you wanted to. It feels really good. You have options.

[Susie Evans]

That is very powerful.

[Sierra]

It's very powerful.

[Susie Evans]

Yeah. I love that for you.

[Sierra]

Yeah.

[Nick Vile]

Sounds like a guy.

[Natalie Vile]

Do we think it's weird that she told Shareese, or do we feel like it would have been weirder had she not told Sharp theories.

[Susie Evans]

I think the way she told her was weird.

[Sierra]

I feel like we could have gone to the grave with that. Like, yeah, I'm planning on going back there. Then I'm like, did we need to know?

[Nick Vile]

I think she just showed up, grabbed his ass. Just laid.

[Natalie Vile]

No, she told the story of how they.

[Nick Vile]

I know, but I would love her to just do it again.

[Susie Evans]

I think she thought it would be saucy for the show.

[Nick Vile]

You know, Walks in. I miss that.

[Susie Evans]

I think Ashley thought it would be saucy for her storyline in the show. And Then was like, oh, man, that means I actually, like, have to tell Cherie.

[Mrs. Claus's Younger Sister]

Right.

[Susie Evans]

And then everyone's like, that's weird. So then it didn't get to be the saucy storyline for the show, which seems very Ashley Darby coded.

[Tate Cameron]

Yeah.

[Susie Evans]

Yeah.

[Sierra]

Kay nailed it. With hide your husbands, hide your sons.

[Tyler Cameron]

Yeah.

[Sierra]

Because Ashley's coming for him.

[Susie Evans]

Ashley's coming for him.

[Natalie Vile]

Hide your grandpa's. Hide your business partners, Hide your.

[Sierra]

What a thrill.

[Nick Vile]

It's hot. I mean, you know, I mean, I.

[Sierra]

Guess you can't really. You can definitely say that Ashley is authentic. She's not hiding anything.

[Susie Evans]

No, she is not.

[Sierra]

She is herself, and we have to respect that. Yeah. And the age gap isn't that. That isn't that. It sounds a little creepy being like, I hooked up with my friend's son.

[Tyler Cameron]

Right.

[Sierra]

But then to your point, she's one of the younger ones with the group.

[Nick Vile]

She's the one in this scenario where you're. She's just like, really? I. The. I still got it. You know, he's 10 years younger. He is like. He's the son of one of her friends. So, like, for him, it's kind of, like, definitely forbidden. So he, like, he wants her so bad that he's willing to upset mom.

[Tyler Cameron]

Yeah. Which is crazy.

[Nick Vile]

Which is a little, you know, for Ashley. She's just like. Like, internally, she's like, yeah, yeah, I'm gonna do this shit.

[Susie Evans]

My favorite part of the episode was Stacy being so offended that Cherise was wearing lingerie to a family event.

[Sierra]

I felt like that. That feels like when you take, like, a little fashion risk, and as you're leaving your house, you're, like, hyping yourself up. You're like, yeah, this is it. I feel so good. And then you arrive, and you're like, oh, I'm in lingerie at a family event. And then you suddenly feel uncomfortable about your. Your bold outfit choice. And then it was called out.

[Susie Evans]

That was like, when I. When I go home for Christmas, and I'm like, I need everyone to know. I'm like, chicer and hotter. Well, my favorite part of the episode was Stacy looking at Shareese and being like, why are you wearing lingerie to a family event?

[Natalie Vile]

Valid question.

[Susie Evans]

She looked hot, though.

[Sierra]

She looked hot. Her ninnies looked great. Yeah. Also watching Stacy and Tamo working out together.

[Susie Evans]

What is his. Is Tamo Tamo and I just call him Timo.

[Sierra]

You call him Timu?

[Susie Evans]

I call him Timu.

[Sierra]

I think they do, too. I heard a couple people say maybe.

[Susie Evans]

Timu, like, Giselle for sure, said Timu.

[Nick Vile]

The first time I've ever heard tamo is out of your mouth mirror.

[Susie Evans]

Tamo.

[Sierra]

That's me. I'm saying Tamo because that's what Stacy calls her husband. So I would assume that that's his.

[Susie Evans]

Name, whatever his name is. Teemu. I've decided. You don't decide your own name.

[Sierra]

I do, but, yeah. Watching the two of them work out together, I was kind of like, do these two people actually spend any time together? Because it felt very like, oh, is this how we work out? And he was like, yes, babe.

[Natalie Vile]

He's like, or should we work out or should we do something else? And he's like, let's work out. She's like, you sure you don't want to do anything else? He's like, well, we'll start with these machines over here.

[Nick Vile]

She seems very. Not in the dry. Her seat in that one.

[Tyler Cameron]

Yeah.

[Sierra]

And it was kind of weird how he was like, are you happy that I'm back? And then she kind of did this whole spiel about how it was like he never left. As if we didn't have that whole last season with tj.

[Natalie Vile]

Yeah.

[Sierra]

Where I was like, he very much was not living in your house.

[Susie Evans]

But I gotta be honest, Stacy. Stacy is getting real close to entering Meredith Marks level for me. I love Stacy. Down bad.

[Tate Cameron]

Yeah.

[Susie Evans]

I love that woman.

[Justin]

Wow.

[Nick Vile]

Quick, before we go, what are you guys doing for New Year's Eve?

[Sierra]

Going to the Beverly Hills Hotel and having a night with my fiance. Oh, they're excited.

[Nick Vile]

Food and sex, basically.

[Sierra]

Yeah. We're gonna do the, like, polo lounge.

[Natalie Vile]

$50 Caesar salad, of course.

[Nick Vile]

What about you, Suze?

[Sierra]

Hanging out with a boy. Going to his house. At his house. A little party. Like a small, low key.

[Nick Vile]

Is this the two of you?

[Sierra]

No, no, no. There's a few people. You know, it's like a. It's a. It's not quite a party, but not. Not a small group. Are we gonna stink together?

[Nick Vile]

No, a party. And you're like, are you wearing an apron?

[Tyler Cameron]

Maybe after everyone goes home.

[Sierra]

I don't know.

[Natalie Vile]

Oh, my God. Are you going to be there as people show up? Are you going to show up?

[Nick Vile]

Yeah, good question.

[Sierra]

Yeah, I think I'll be there before.

[Natalie Vile]

Oh. Oh, wow. Y' all are in love.

[Susie Evans]

Unofficial co host slash early guest is a great place to be at.

[Sierra]

Actually, I texted Mary recently because at the Christmas dinner, we were like, roasting her about using a two in one shampoo conditioner again.

[Tate Cameron]

It's.

[Susie Evans]

It's not. I did stop Using it because I didn't like it.

[Sierra]

But I texted her because I was like, hey, stay in the night at a guy's house. And I just used a two in one. It's not so bad.

[Susie Evans]

Yeah, I looked at that. I got that text from Susie, and I was like, oh, Susie texted me. And then I saw it, I was like, I can.

[Sierra]

Yeah, I can vouch for you. Like, it wasn't as bad as I.

[Natalie Vile]

Thought it would be.

[Sierra]

We really roasted you, and I'm sorry for that.

[Susie Evans]

No, it's okay. I'm youngest sibling. I'm used to it.

[Tate Cameron]

Wait till you get to the three in one.

[Natalie Vile]

No, the Dr. Bronner's is like a 17 in one. It's like, wash your dishes, wash your.

[Nick Vile]

Again.

[Susie Evans]

What I was using was less of a two in one and more of a.

[Natalie Vile]

Well, you said it was a cleanse and a condition.

[Nick Vile]

Okay, we're moving on. Mary, what are you doing for New Year's Eve?

[Susie Evans]

What am I doing for New Year's Eve? I don't know yet. I think my goal. I'd like to.

[Nick Vile]

No goals. Don't have any goals.

[Susie Evans]

I'd like to get drunk.

[Sierra]

Get drunk.

[Susie Evans]

Be around with my friends.

[Tate Cameron]

Okay.

[Nick Vile]

You guys are running back to Florida.

[Tate Cameron]

Yeah. We're gonna go to dinner in Miami and go out live.

[Tyler Cameron]

And he's lying. We're not doing any of that. Going to live.

[Sierra]

Are you crazy on the couch?

[Nick Vile]

Justin, what are you doing?

[Justin]

I think I'm gonna go with the wind. I like the idea of not doing too much.

[Tyler Cameron]

Me too.

[Justin]

Whatever that means.

[Tyler Cameron]

I'm go with the wind as well.

[Natalie Vile]

New Year's Eve is so overrated.

[Tate Cameron]

It's an amateur night.

[Natalie Vile]

It is.

[Tyler Cameron]

I just want a nice night with my dogs.

[Nick Vile]

Well, whatever you do, I hope you do it safely. You have a lot of fun. We appreciate you guys. Don't forget to tune in tomorrow for the last day of the year. It's an absolute banger. Jared Osmond and Brittany Bateman join the show for an electric episode you do not want to miss. If you've ever wondered how they do it, find out tomorrow. It's truly been a magical year with you guys. We really appreciate you. We've had another record year with this show. It's amazing what we're able to accomplish, and we couldn't do without you guys. I love you, babe. You're the best. I love you guys.

[Tate Cameron]

Love you. Thanks.

[Tyler Cameron]

Love you, guys.

[Nick Vile]

2025 live. See you 2026. Bye, guys. Bye, household. Love you guys.

[Tyler Cameron]

Bye, guys.

[Nick Vile]

Happy New Year. Drive safe. Don't drink a drive by.

[Mrs. Claus's Younger Sister]

Guys. Thanks for helping me carry my Christmas tree.

[Elf Drewski]

Zoe. This thing weighs a ton.

[Nick Vile]

Drewy, lift with your legs, man.

[Natalie Vile]

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[Nick Vile]

Santa, did you get my letter?

[Elf Drewski]

He's talking to you, Bridges.

[Nick Vile]

I'm not.

[Mrs. Claus's Younger Sister]

Of course he did.

[Nick Vile]

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[Tate Cameron]

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