E1061 - Greta Titelman Recaps the Golden Globes, Traitors w/ Rob Cesternino, RHOBH and Valley Persian Style

Summary

The Viall Files: Reality Recap Edition

Episode E1061 – Greta Titelman Recaps the Golden Globes, Traitors w/ Rob Cesternino, RHOBH and Valley Persian Style
Air Date: January 13, 2026
Host: Nick Viall
Guests/Panel: Greta Titelman, Natalie Joy, Mary, Justin, Sierra, Amanda
Special Segment Guest: Rob Cesternino

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Episode Overview

This episode of The Viall Files features comedian and actress Greta Titelman joining Nick and the crew for a vibrant Reality Recap. The discussion covers:

• Golden Globes highlights and celebrity gossip
• “Traitors” with Rob Cesternino (Survivor / RHAP)
• Housewives drama (RHOBH recap)
• The new “Valley Persian Style” show Throughout, the cast riffs on pop culture, shares personal anecdotes, and explores deeper meanings behind reality TV moments—all with their signature candid and humorous tone.

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Greta Titelman Joins the Recap

[05:52 – 18:31]

Greta’s TV Preferences and Jazz Discussions

• Greta admits she doesn’t watch much reality TV, but stays updated through friends and the queer community (06:10).
• She’s more into scripted shows, shares a love for John Coltrane, and discusses the power of music and memory—relating a touching story about Nick’s grandmother recalling jazz tunes (07:52).

“I feel like I watch reality TV by proxy because I hang out with…99% gay men.” – Greta Titelman [06:14]

Group Chat Ruckuses & Handling Drama

• Greta is “very Mary J. Blige—no more drama” and avoids online group drama for her mental health.
• Exercise (“Barry’s Bootcamp with my trainer, Kyle K.”) is her anxiety outlet (09:29).
• She loves the spectacle of “nasty Valley moms” and childhood icons like Mandy Moore, Hilary Duff, Ashley Tisdale, referencing recent real-life “mom group” drama among them (10:11).

“The cattiest people that we live with are straight cis men.” – Greta Titelman [10:56]

The Hilary Duff/Ashley Tisdale Feud, Social Media & Celebrity Husbands

• The podcast riffs on Hilary Duff’s husband’s viral (fake) clapback and how “boredom in LA” warps people to engage in petty feuds.
• Greta floats the idea: “What if it’s all a PR stunt for Duff’s new music?” [12:07]
• They discuss how celebrity husbands like Daryl Sabara (Meghan Trainor’s husband) weirdly insert themselves in social feuds.

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Golden Globes Recap

[14:24 – 18:20]

Nikki Glaser Hosting & Memorable Moments

• Greta praises Nikki Glaser’s Golden Globes performance: “She killed it” [14:29]. They loved the music choices, even the “middle school dance” vibes.
• Notable: the actor Stephen Graham’s win and the timing oddities of award qualifications.
• Standout joke: Glaser’s Leo DiCaprio bit—first the “low-hanging fruit” then the “but we know nothing else about you,” which everyone agrees was sharp:

“I kind of admired him for it…and Leo, if you want someone to make fun of you on things outside of the women you date, come on the show.” – Nick Viall [17:03]

• Discussion of Leo’s avoidance of any real interviews (esp. with Jennifer Lawrence), his child actor roots, and reticence to reveal personal stories; Greta laments, “He’s not gonna give us the Pussy Posse stories we want.” [18:03]

Other Awards Show Talk

• Nikki’s hidden “Easter eggs” in jokes, the audience not always catching her vaping digs.
• Sean Penn’s on-stage cigarette: “Bring it back!” and the power dynamic of who could tell him to stop (18:36).

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Celebrity Couples and Parasocial Culture

[19:22 – 22:50]

• Deep-dive into Timothy Chalamet & Kylie Jenner’s relationship and the way “Club Chalamet”—his fan club—reacts to public displays.
• Group dissects the choice of “partner” vs. “girlfriend” in speeches, Greta says: “Say her name, my love. We know who you’re talking about. Say ‘I love you, Kylie.’” (20:50)
• Parasocial “Club Chalamet” tension and maintaining privacy while still being a tabloid focal point.

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Tabloids, Internet Bullying, and Fame

[22:30 – 26:22]

• The Daily Mail’s sensational headlines (“Nick Viall runs nearly naked”), Perez Hilton nostalgia (“there used to be just one bully”), and the explosion of gossip industry.
• The perils of having viral “bad nickname” personas and comparing past vs. present internet haters.

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Golden Globes & Pop Culture Game

[31:41 – 39:04]

Amanda brings a “rejected Golden Globes categories” game—everyone debates:

• “Best Wig” (winner: “The Hunting Wives”—with behind-the-scenes wig debacle stories)
• “Best TV Show Your Boyfriend’s Coworker Loves but You’ll Never Watch”
  Greta: “I’m the only non-septuagenarian woman who watches Slow Horses—Gary Oldman, break me in half.” [35:24]
• “Best Homoerotic Subtext”
  Winner: Housewives’ Bronwyn & Whitney: “They’re kissing!” – Greta [37:18]
• “Best Movie Not From This Year but On Your Mind”
  Group ends up quoting and loving “Sister Act 2: Back in the Habit” [39:00]

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Winter Olympics Banter

[39:07 – 47:54]

• The crew geeks out over upcoming Winter Olympics:
  • Greta would compete in figure skating or (for the “psychotic” side) “skeleton”—face-first sledding.
  • Anecdotes about competitive spouses and working out (“creatine gummies don’t cut it!” – Greta).
• Ribbing Nick about his “nearly naked” running headline, family ski history, and competitive spirit.
• Whisper tennis commentary impressions, Olympics event dreams (basketball, archery, biathlon).

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True Crime, Scammer Podcasts, and Dark Docs

[49:05 – 52:54]

• Greta’s true crime obsession:
  • Discusses the Karen Read case (“hit the cop in Boston, corrupt police—100p.”)
  • Current listening: scammer podcasts (including “Unicorn Girl,” about an elaborate CIA/government contract scam and the psychology of compulsive liars).
• Reflection: The difference between dark and “entertaining” true crime, and why scammer stories fascinate people.

“Sometimes people lie, but because they’re lying, they get the thing they’re lying about.” – Greta Titelman [51:55]

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Traitors with Rob Cesternino (Survivor/RHAP)

[55:25 – 77:50]

Rob’s Experience & Strategic Breakdown

• Rob describes his “murder in plain sight” on Traitors, catching onto a suspicious conga line and nearly outing a Traitor (62:02).
• He reflects on gameplay:
  • The effectiveness of keeping Michael Rapaport (“the ultimate distraction”) to shield Traitors (74:04).
  • His guesses on other Traitors (thought Dorinda and Jam Jam, was shocked it wasn’t a CBS “gamer”).
  • On the challenge of Traitors not having each other as allies (Donna Kelsey’s secret Traitor role backfiring).
  • Strongest faithfuls: Tiffany (Big Brother), Monet, Mark Ballas.

“To me, I just thought for the faithful, it was such a win-win to get rid of Michael Rappaport. But the Traitors loved Michael—he’s a secret Traitor in his own way.” – Rob Cesternino [74:36]

• On the season’s innovation: No “gamers” in the Traitor’s turret, which forces new strategies and keeps the show fresh.

Production Tidbits

• Scotland weather—filming’s unpredictable (hot castle rooms, freezing outdoors).
• Rob’s podcast: “Rob Has a Podcast” covers competition TV extensively.

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Reality TV Rapid Recaps

Beverly Hills
[83:24 – 93:19]

• Sutton plans a girls’ trip to Sedona, tries rebranding.
• Dorit’s marital drama and tardiness (private jet etiquette rants!).
• Rachel Zoe’s glam and missing luggage saga, Kathy Hilton’s iconic pillow packing.
• Amanda, the new Housewife, psychoanalyzes Erika Jayne and is compared to historical Beverly Hills “one-uppers.”
• Erika’s new relationship brings vulnerability (“as we get older, we lower our expectations of love… very heartwarming” – Nick [89:55]).

Household Quotes:

“I would have left her behind! See you—and see you next Tuesday, in a good way.” – Amanda, about Dorit’s lateness [94:11]

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Valley Persian Style
[94:56 – 102:41]

• The “Valley” spinoff features familiar Shahs of Sunset faces (MJ, Reza, Gigi). Themes: Gigi’s financial struggles, friendship fallouts, and MJ stuck between her husband and old friends.
• Hilarious rapid recap: “MJ’s boobs are like weeds, they grow and grow. Gol Neza has kids, is divorced, and broke...Sky stole Gol Neza’s ring and brings it to her son’s birthday...everyone is talking about Gol Neza’s debt the second she walks in.”
• Emphasis on authentic connections and established histories between cast.

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Notable Quotes

• “The cattiest people that we live with are straight CIS men.” – Greta Titelman [10:56]
• “I am very Mary J. Blige—no more drama.” – Greta Titelman [09:05]
• “Say her name, my love. We know who you’re talking about. Say ‘I love you, Kylie.’ Say it with your chest, King.” – Greta Titelman [20:50]
• “If you want someone to make fun of you about something outside the women you date, come on the show, Leo!” – Nick Viall [17:03]
• “He’s a secret Traitor—in his own way.” – Rob Cesternino (about Michael Rapaport) [74:36]
• “Are you putting creatine gummies in your coffee? Sweetie, you need the powder.” – Greta Titelman [41:40]
• “Sometimes people lie, but because they’re lying, they get the thing they’re lying about.” – Greta Titelman [51:55]
• “I would have left her behind! See you—and see you next Tuesday, in a good way.” – Amanda, about Dorit [94:11]

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Key Timestamps for Major Segments

| Topic | Timestamp | |---------------------------------------------|------------------| | Greta joins, TV prefs, jazz conversation | 05:52–08:47 | | Hill Duff/Tisdale & Mom group drama | 10:13–14:14 | | Golden Globes reactions/Jokes | 14:24–18:20 | | Chalamet/Jenner, Club Chalamet analysis | 19:22–22:50 | | Tabloid culture, Perez Hilton, memes | 22:30–26:22 | | Game: Golden Globes rejected categories | 31:41–39:04 | | Winter/Summer Olympics banter | 39:07–47:54 | | True crime & scammer stories | 49:05–52:54 | | Traitors with Rob Cesternino | 55:25–77:50 | | RHOBH recap and hot takes | 83:24–93:19 | | Valley Persian Style summary & reactions | 94:56–102:41 |

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Final Thoughts & Episode Tone

The Viall Files' Reality Recap shines in its chaotic camaraderie, driven by quick-witted banter, deep TV and pop culture references, and Greta Titelman’s infectious energy. Whether diving into Hollywood drama or dissecting the mechanics of reality game shows, the episode balances sharp observations and lighthearted fun, making it perfect for both die-hard fans and casual listeners.

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Outro:
Catch Greta on tour at the San Francisco Comedy Festival, January 23rd—tickets on her website. The crew’s back next time with celebrity stylist Chris Appleton for more deep dives.

End of Summary.

Transcript

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[Nick]

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[Mary]

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[Justin]

You think so?

[Sierra]

I feel like he's learning so many.

[Amanda]

New words, him and his thesaurus.

[Nick]

Like I didn't know. Extraordinary.

[Amanda]

He's got a thesaurus and a deep love for his wife.

[Mary]

That is true.

[Nick]

I do. I do. He's just a special person. I love her so much.

[Mary]

Thank you.

[Nick]

Well, we do in fact have a great episode Lined up for you moments from now. The hilarious Greta Teitelman will be joining us to get into all things headlines and Golden Globes. Friend of show Nikki Glaser did another fantastic job of hosting the Golden Globes. We were gonna go to her after party and then we fell asleep.

[Sierra]

He should have gone because she can roast like nobody's business.

[Nick]

I don't think she was going to be roasting at her after.

[Sierra]

That was my. My bit was like. Like, she cooks like she roasts, but like, also she was roasting on stage.

[Nick]

I got it.

[Amanda]

I heard it. It's received this funny.

[Nick]

I love you. We also have Rob C. Oh, by the way, you know, if you're going to listen to this and you haven't watched Traders, spoiler alert. Yeah, we. We do talk about what happens on this show.

[Amanda]

Is he still there? Is he not? Get ready to find out.

[Nick]

Rob C. Is with us to talk about it. We got some surprising exits from the Castle. Sad to see some people go. We'll get into that and so much more. Do not forget Vile Files plus is available. It's rocking and rolling. And now all of your Vile File episodes are ad free on Vile Files plus, where you can get your favorite updates from your favorite ass nick callers. You can get some deep dives into some of your favorite reality TV shows like Traders, like the Real Housewives of Beverly Hills, where we really get in the nitty gritty of like, you know, what do we think Rob, Sexy Rob eats at the castle. You know, riveting, things like that.

[Amanda]

These are all things that we must discuss.

[Nick]

Yes. And that is all available on Vile Files Plus. Just go to vile files.com to subscribe if you aren't subscribing. I promise you, you are missing out. Anything you guys want to get off your chest before we bring in Greta?

[Greta Teitelman]

Yeah.

[Amanda]

I got a tattoo on Friday is your first. This is my first. I got this little shrimp.

[Mary]

You got a shrimp?

[Amanda]

I got a shrimp.

[Justin]

Let me just say Justin was with me. This girl's impulsive. She walked by the tattoo shop on her way to lunch and she goes, I'm gonna get a tattoo today.

[Nick]

I love that.

[Justin]

And I was like, okay, I'll go with you. And then I walked in and I said, you have other tattoos, right?

[Nick]

And she's like, no, my first tattoo is this little bee right here.

[Amanda]

Nice.

[Justin]

Did you go into the shop knowing what you were getting or did you just pick around?

[Nick]

I knew I wanted to be. And then I went to a fancy tattoo artist who made it really Little.

[Amanda]

Yeah, I. I just. It was a flash, and then I'm. It made me. My brother worked at a bait shop when I was growing up, and we used to go fishing, like, all the time. And I just really resonate with the little shrimp.

[Nick]

What does it represent for you, Mary?

[Amanda]

It feels like home, and also, like, it's a little silly, but not like, it's a little stupid, a little silly, but also, like, kind of earnest for me, which is funny, and I like it.

[Nick]

And it's going to be getting of, like, a sleeve.

[Amanda]

It's the beginning of something, because I love it. Felt awesome. And I do feel cooler and hotter now that I have it and tougher. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Nick]

How did. How did. Did it hurt you?

[Amanda]

No.

[Nick]

Yeah.

[Justin]

They don't hurt.

[Nick]

Depends on where you get it. This the eagle I have on my ribs.

[Greta Teitelman]

Yeah, that was painful.

[Amanda]

The tattoo guy made the best joke I've ever heard, though, in which he was like, I've never tattooed a shrimp before. And then the other guy there, who does the piercings, goes, no, normally it's. And I laughed for, like, five minutes.

[Justin]

You do look like a shrimp.

[Amanda]

Thank you. It's really sweet.

[Nick]

Well, up next, Greta Titleman joins us. She recently did her standup on Seth Meyers. She's also on Lute and many more. She's friends with all your favorite comedians, and her star is rising. And she's up next.

[Greta Teitelman]

I feel like when you guys asked me what I watch, I was like. I felt so bad. I was like, they're gonna give him such a freak, because I don't watch, like, any reality television.

[Nick]

That's okay.

[Greta Teitelman]

I know. Like, I feel I, like, don't watch anything. Anything. It's not good.

[Nick]

It looks like you watch a lot.

[Sierra]

A lot of scripted.

[Greta Teitelman]

I watch a lot of scripted.

[Amanda]

Yeah.

[Sierra]

Everybody has their thing.

[Greta Teitelman]

I know.

[Justin]

Yeah.

[Sierra]

I'm like. I'm an escapist, so I'm like, okay, show me somebody else's life.

[Greta Teitelman]

And I feel like I watch reality TV by proxy because I hang out with, like, 99% gay men.

[Sierra]

There you go.

[Greta Teitelman]

I feel like I get it. You know what I mean? Like, I understand.

[Nick]

So we could get the. What's going on in reality TV secondhand through.

[Greta Teitelman]

Totally. I know a lot of. Yeah, I can give it to you.

[Nick]

Okay.

[Greta Teitelman]

People are really excited about this new Miami of house housewives. I know that much.

[Mary]

The Palm Beach.

[Greta Teitelman]

Yeah.

[Mary]

The Members Only Palm Beach.

[Greta Teitelman]

Sure. Whatever. See, I know you're in it. Come on.

[Sierra]

When your friends tell you about reality tv, though, do you Listen to it as, like, a friend hearing somebody's beef with somebody else, or, like, are you asking questions?

[Greta Teitelman]

I'm asking no questions.

[Sierra]

No questions. You're just like, all right, here's the sweet story.

[Mary]

Yeah, I don't want to know anymore.

[Greta Teitelman]

Yeah. I'm just like, okay.

[Justin]

Yeah.

[Amanda]

It's like when somebody's talking to you about friends they had from college that you weren't friends with, and you're like, totally. Yeah, keep going with this. I love it.

[Greta Teitelman]

Yeah. I know a lot about Sonja Morgan's life. That's, like, one person that I know quite a bit about. And Bethenny Frankel.

[Sierra]

Okay, so you are a New York fan, I guess.

[Nick]

Can I talk to you about your obsession with jazz? Is it still. Are you still obsessed with jazz, or was that just a jazz. I've really. I'm really into my jazz era now.

[Greta Teitelman]

Oh, you are? What are you listening to?

[Nick]

Background.

[Mary]

Yeah.

[Greta Teitelman]

What does that sound? Okay, so wait, what do you mean? I don't like. You go on YouTube and you watch one of those weird, like, AI videos. It's like a fireplace at a lake.

[Mary]

And you're listening to, like, yeah, Coffee house jazz.

[Greta Teitelman]

Yeah, coffee house jazz.

[Nick]

No, it's. It's background. It's the background jazz playlist on Spotify.

[Greta Teitelman]

Gorgeous.

[Nick]

And now in the car. Jazz.

[Greta Teitelman]

Yeah, we love jazz.

[Nick]

It calms me.

[Greta Teitelman]

It's wonderful. I love jazz. I listen to. I'm in a big. I'm stepping back into a really big John Coltrane era right now, personally.

[Mary]

Talk about your love for him.

[Amanda]

Yeah. Nick, what's your favorite John Coltrane song?

[Nick]

I don't know.

[Amanda]

You know your favorite piece of John Coltrane?

[Nick]

Like, Greta doesn't know reality. I know. Like, I just, like. That sounds nice.

[Greta Teitelman]

You like how I appreciate reality television by proxy in the background. You appreciate jazz in the background as well?

[Nick]

My grandmother, who is in her 90s and has had a wonderful life and still with us, but her memory is unfortunately not as sharp as it used to be. She visited us at the lake, and, you know, sadly, she just doesn't remember a lot of specific things. And I was playing a jazz playlist, and out of nowhere, she's like, I know the name of this song. And in the artist, and she crushed it, and it was a really cool moment. Anyways.

[Greta Teitelman]

I mean, they say, like, that, like, recall is very real. Like, my grandfather had full dementia and was 98 years old, but could still sing, like, songs.

[Nick]

Yeah, it's really incredible. Are you any group chats that are causing any ruckuses these days. Like the mom chats going on?

[Greta Teitelman]

No, like, okay, here's something about me. I don't want drama. I am very Mary J. Blige. No more drama. I just like, I can't. It stresses me the fuck out. I've lived too long an anxiety riddled individual to be involved in drama. So just like I have, I create drama in my mind. I don't need it actually manifesting on my phone.

[Nick]

What is your trick of exercising your anxiety demons?

[Greta Teitelman]

Well, I literally exercise. That's like, that's number one. I have to like forcefully move my body. That's number one.

[Nick]

What's your go to exercise?

[Greta Teitelman]

Well, I'm addicted to my trainer. I love my trainer. But then I gotta. I'm not gonna lie to you guys. I do Barry's boot camp.

[Sierra]

I do.

[Amanda]

I do.

[Mary]

You're brave.

[Greta Teitelman]

I do Barry's. I'm obsessed. I'm addicted. I love my king. Shout out to Kyle K. He's the best. Go to the Barry's boot camp. Get that fucking burn on. Yeah, I have to have to release the demons inside. But the mom chat stuff did bring me joy.

[Amanda]

It's a good feud.

[Nick]

Cause it like, wasn't you.

[Greta Teitelman]

Because it's not me. And I'm also like, I love like nasty valley moms. Like, that is fun to me. I'm like, I love the concept of Mandy Moore and Hilary Duff bullying Ashley Tisdale because it's also like, those are my girls. Allegedly, those are my girls. You know what I mean? So it's like, I love, like, we.

[Mary]

All grew up together.

[Greta Teitelman]

Yeah, we all grew up together. Those are my girls from high school. Like, I know those chicas, you know, I mean, not actually, but, you know, spiritually. And I feel like I'm locked in on that.

[Mary]

What was your immediate gut reaction to Hillary's husband posting the Photoshop the cut article where he called Ashley Tisdale a insufferable. Insufferable.

[Nick]

Was it that? I think it was one of those words.

[Greta Teitelman]

This just solidifies my opinion that straight men are the cattiest individuals on Planet Ear. That I believe that, like, the cattiest people that we live with are straight CIS men.

[Nick]

We're just looking for an opportunity.

[Greta Teitelman]

I know. And you guys, like, love attention and you guys love to stir the pot and you love to be like, I'm just sticking up for my wife. Meanwhile, your wife is probably like, you're being psychotic. I don't want you to post that. And you're like, no, I'm going to. Because it's fucked up. What they did to you is fucked up.

[Nick]

Yeah.

[Greta Teitelman]

And then you say some crazy stuff.

[Nick]

I have to defend your honor.

[Greta Teitelman]

I have to defend you. I'll look like a huge loser if I don't defend your hon by posting this crazy thing. And meanwhile you're like, it's going to make it so much worse for me.

[Nick]

And then when I get called out, I'll just subtly suggest that you made me do it.

[Amanda]

Yeah.

[Greta Teitelman]

But then the interesting thing. Exactly. And the interesting thing about their dynamic is Hilary Duff is also entering a new music era. And that's an interesting situation there.

[Nick]

What if we're all being played? What if, like, behind the scenes, like Ashley Tisdale, Hilary Duff got together knowing that there's new music coming out?

[Mary]

I mean, you think Ashley was like, let me help you boost your album.

[Greta Teitelman]

I mean, honestly, I think that that's beautiful. And that is sisterhood. And I'm going to choose to believe that that's actually what's happening. They like, in their mom group, they were like, wait, we need to uplift.

[Amanda]

Yeah.

[Greta Teitelman]

We need to start a feud to make people pay attention to the music.

[Mary]

And have your husband call me insufferable.

[Greta Teitelman]

Exactly correct. That's what I think is happening.

[Amanda]

He said, when you're the most self obsessed, tone deaf person on earth, other moms tend to shift focus to their toddlers. Was what his fake cut article said.

[Nick]

He pulled no punches.

[Amanda]

Pulled no punches.

[Greta Teitelman]

If I were Ashley Tisdale, I would be like, what?

[Mary]

You're married?

[Greta Teitelman]

Yeah.

[Mary]

Would you want your husband jumping in? No, no, I'm not married.

[Sierra]

Insane. Because I'm like Daryl Sbarro. Also Meghan Trainor's husband also came out and said something about it too. I don't remember what he said, but I just know that I thought it was a weird headline where I was like, why are all of these husbands speaking out about a mom group they weren't a part of?

[Amanda]

It's giving dad talk.

[Greta Teitelman]

Yeah. I don't know. It's very strange. I just think people. I think people are bored.

[Mary]

They are very bored.

[Greta Teitelman]

And I think that sometimes, like, Los Angeles can be a really isolating, boring place and it can really warp your mind and it can make you think that is important. That's not. Because you're just like in your compound in Topanga and you're like, what is happening?

[Sierra]

And then you're just like, not my world.

[Greta Teitelman]

And then you're just like firing off and then you actually need to go outside and touch grass.

[Amanda]

Well, it Seems like. So Ashley Tisbill's husband said, I don't really know what's going on, I hope.

[Sierra]

And that's how he should respond.

[Amanda]

She's okay, though.

[Greta Teitelman]

See, that's an honest situation.

[Sierra]

He's like, I have no idea.

[Amanda]

Oh, wait, no, no, no. I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry. I misquoted. It was Meghan Trainor's husband said, I don't really know what's going on. I hope Ashley Disdells okay.

[Greta Teitelman]

Yeah, I do, too. I mean, peace and love to. Wasn't her name Sharpay?

[Amanda]

Yeah.

[Greta Teitelman]

And also she killed it on the red carpet in the early 2000s.

[Amanda]

She did the jeans under the skirt.

[Greta Teitelman]

She was a fearless style icon. Fearless. Fearless. Fearless.

[Mary]

Well, speaking of red carpets and fearlessness, what did you think of the Golden Globes?

[Greta Teitelman]

Okay. I actually thought. Because I knew we were discussing that today, and I actually was, like, gathering my thoughts and, you know, I actually really believe that it was, like, kind of one of the best award shows I've seen in a long time. I thought Nikki killed it. I thought she did such a fab job. She was so funny. She's just the best. And she looked great. And then I thought I was laughing, laughing, laughing at the music they were playing for school when they were getting their awards. I was like, this is so funny.

[Amanda]

It felt like a middle school dance. But Stellan Skarsgrd was accepting an award. It was great.

[Greta Teitelman]

They were playing that Bruno Mars song when. What's his. When that. When Stephen Graham won for Adolescence.

[Sierra]

Oh, yeah.

[Greta Teitelman]

I was just like, I love that they're playing like 24 karat magic in me. And I was just like, this is great.

[Mary]

They're like, we can't play any music from this year.

[Greta Teitelman]

No, I loved it. I was like, play music. Like, it felt like I was at some event in 2006.

[Nick]

That was a nice moment when he won that award, though. I mean, he's been a great actor for so many years. You've never really seen him be recognized. Recognized for it. And it. It was really cool. I do.

[Mary]

Like, I feel like Adolescence came out maybe five years ago and they are still winning awards. But maybe it was just this past year it came out. I know it's always been talking about it.

[Greta Teitelman]

It's the timing, like, when something comes out in the beginning of the Being able to qualify for the award, it does feel like we've lived with it for, like, I'm like, I feel like they've already won. I know.

[Nick]

It's award. It's always like, it's a. Yeah. It seems like a show or a movie from, like, something that seems forever ago. Or a show or a movie that, like, just came out and no one's seen it.

[Greta Teitelman]

Yeah. It's like you really need to find that sweet spot with releasing things. It's like how I felt Shogun won everything for like, three years. And I was like, oh, I guess Shogun is just winning for the next 10 years. And it should, because it was so good.

[Nick]

I really appreciated Nikki's Leo joke.

[Greta Teitelman]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Nick]

It was the follow up joke because, like, the low hanging fruit of, like, making fun of the age of the women he dates.

[Justin]

Yeah.

[Nick]

And I was like, okay, roll your eyes. And then she's like, but we know nothing else about you. And I was like, that is so.

[Amanda]

It was really good.

[Greta Teitelman]

So true.

[Mary]

And I was thinking Tiger Beat interview from, like 90s.

[Greta Teitelman]

The pasta, pasta, pasta. I know. It is amazing how little we kind of know about him.

[Nick]

I know. It was like, I was. I kind of admired him for it. And Leo, if you want someone to make fun of you on things outside of the women you date, just come on the show. We'll give you plenty of opportunities.

[Mary]

I did watch his actors on Actors with Jennifer Lawrence, and she really tried to get him to. I felt like it was the most, like, interview scene. She is. She's a great interviewer, but it was like the most, like, Leo interview we've seen where he wasn't, you know, it was long. He talked about other things, but it was, It's. He's a tough cookie to crack.

[Greta Teitelman]

I watched that. The actors on Actors too. And, like, because I, obviously I'm obsessed with Leonardo DiCaprio. I have been forever. We all are. And I am always just. I'm like, when are we gonna get, like, something? But then I also remember he's a child actor. And, like, he is so in this business. And, like, this is his whole life and mind.

[Mary]

Like, why give us something now?

[Greta Teitelman]

And also he's not gonna, like, tell us about, like, partying with the pussy posse. You know what I mean? Like, that's what I want. And he's not gonna give that to us.

[Mary]

He's just gonna continue wearing that black baseball cap out in public and hiding his face on the yacht and a.

[Greta Teitelman]

Mask and vaping and vaping. The king loves to vape.

[Nick]

No one really picked up on that. Little Nikki slipped that in about the vaping. And yeah, she had a lot of Easter eggs in her jokes that the girls.

[Amanda]

I get it. Get It.

[Greta Teitelman]

Did you guys see Sean Penn smoking a cigarette? Which I was like, go completely off.

[Sierra]

That's what I said. I think it's badass. Bring it back.

[Greta Teitelman]

He smokes cigarettes everywhere. I'm just like, someone has to be cool and sorry that cigarettes are still cool when Sean Penn smokes them.

[Amanda]

I think some people can smoke inside. If you're Sean Penn, you can smoke inside.

[Greta Teitelman]

Yeah. I agree 100%.

[Nick]

Do you think anyone had the guts to go up to him and go, excuse me, Mr. Penn?

[Greta Teitelman]

No.

[Sierra]

@ this event, at this stage, Absolutely.

[Amanda]

Not. Imagine you're a PA making, like $15 an hour, and they're like, hey, can you go and tell Sean Penn that he has to stop.

[Greta Teitelman]

Smoking? I would be like.

[Amanda]

No. No. I would say.

[Greta Teitelman]

No. Like, I'm not going to be that person for you. I'm sorry. You can go do.

[Amanda]

That. You can go do that. I had to buy. I had to buy black pants from Goodwill. But if you want to go and tell Sean Penn to stop smoking, you.

[Nick]

Can. Mary said that some people are feeling a little protective of.

[Amanda]

Timmy. I mean, I think maybe Club Chalamet, maybe some of the other Timmy.

[Greta Teitelman]

Subscrib. Club Chalamet at the Palm Spring. Did you see.

[Justin]

That?

[Greta Teitelman]

Yes. When Club Chalamet got to kind of see what is. What is she.

[Mary]

Called? Critics Choice.

[Sierra]

Award. Was that.

[Greta Teitelman]

It? That was that. It was at Palm Springs, the film.

[Amanda]

Festival.

[Mary]

Oh.

[Greta Teitelman]

Oh. And you know, Club Chalamet has hated Kylie.

[Amanda]

Jenner. Yeah. Club Charlamagne does not. Does not fuck with Kylie.

[Greta Teitelman]

Jenner. Does not like Kylie Jenner. What is. What is. What does she call.

[Amanda]

Her? Oh, oh.

[Greta Teitelman]

Oh. Something really.

[Mary]

Funny. I feel like she was just at the last award show that went. And Timothy was like, my foundation, my partner of three years. Thank you so much. And, like, she.

[Greta Teitelman]

Was. That was Critics Choice. No, she was at the one where he won. He did win an award at Palm.

[Justin]

Springs.

[Greta Teitelman]

Okay. And that's where they. She was there, saw each.

[Sierra]

Other.

[Nick]

Yeah. It's.

[Greta Teitelman]

Great.

[Mary]

Yeah. How did she get.

[Greta Teitelman]

Invited? She's everywhere she is. Everywhere she.

[Nick]

Is. Maybe she didn't get invited. Maybe she just showed.

[Justin]

Up.

[Greta Teitelman]

Yeah. Maybe she just crashed a Club Chalamet.

[Nick]

Crashed. When Tim called Kylie, his partner Natalie pointed out that, like, it's not just PC but also just like. It's just a. It's just a better way to describe your girlfriend. It seems more.

[Mary]

Growing. I can't imagine him giving his Golden Globe speech and being like. And thank you to my.

[Sierra]

Girlfriend. I kind of feel like there's also Like a certain age that you kind of hit and when you've been with somebody for a while, you're like, you're not my like boyfriend. Like, you're my partner. The person I'm choosing to spend now and hopefully the rest of my life.

[Greta Teitelman]

With. I kind of am like, say her name. I'm kind of like, say her name, my love. We know who you're talking about. Say, I love you, Kylie. Say it with your chest, King. Let's hear.

[Nick]

It. Why doesn't he say her name? She's sitting right.

[Greta Teitelman]

There. Because I think the relationship is like so it's like the biggest. It's like the two biggest celebrities of that like younger generation dating. And I'm a part of that younger generation. Okay. But it's. I don't know. I don't know.

[Amanda]

Why. I think he knows Club would get upset if he said.

[Greta Teitelman]

Kylie. I think that would be the.

[Amanda]

Final like stick in her heart that he's not.

[Greta Teitelman]

Saying. He's saying my partner to protect Club.

[Amanda]

Chalamet. Protect club. Because it could total sense technically be at this point Club Chalamet is Timothy's partner. Like regardless of she's parasocial so hard that.

[Mary]

Like. Oh, she's definitely like. He's thanking.

[Greta Teitelman]

Me. Yeah, for.

[Mary]

Sure. She's not saying Kylie's name.

[Greta Teitelman]

Because. Because it's me and my partner for our.

[Amanda]

Foundation.

[Greta Teitelman]

Club. Yeah, Club.

[Nick]

Chalamet. I didn't know they've been dating for that.

[Mary]

Long. Yeah, that's what happens when you keep your business to.

[Sierra]

Yourself. I was gonna say, I was like, I feel like we don't ever see any photos of them. Just like on vacation or anything. Anything that they don't want us to see, we don't see it. Which I.

[Mary]

Like. It's just.

[Sierra]

Normal.

[Greta Teitelman]

Yeah. Yeah, totally.

[Sierra]

Normal. Building a foundation. It's.

[Mary]

Normal. Building their foundation, you.

[Sierra]

Know. Do you think they'll have.

[Amanda]

Children? Club and Timothy? Oh, sorry.

[Greta Teitelman]

Kylie. I have no idea. I mean that would be.

[Mary]

Cute. It's kind of every footage I saw of them talking at the Golden Globes it was Kylie Jenner saying I love.

[Amanda]

You.

[Mary]

Yeah. That's the only conversations that I.

[Greta Teitelman]

Caught wind of when I like being really toxic. I'll go on the Daily Mail and I, I used to be addicted to the Daily Mail and then I like had to over Covid. I was like, this has to stop. Shit got really dark sided and crazy. I mean it's already very dark sided over there. It's like Satan's.

[Nick]

Platform. Yeah. They're not looking for Anything under a.

[Greta Teitelman]

Drop. It's all awful. And, like, during COVID it got so Rancho Cucamonga crazy over.

[Nick]

There. During COVID I went running, as people did, and I didn't have a shirt on, and the paparazzi got me. And then the Daily Mail had a headline, nick Viall runs nearly naked. Like, as if I lost my mind and I was just streaking the.

[Greta Teitelman]

Streets.

[Nick]

Yeah. Thanks to the Daily.

[Greta Teitelman]

Mail. But that's kind of a fab.

[Amanda]

Headline. Yeah, Nearly naked is a good.

[Greta Teitelman]

Alliteration. That's kind of fun. Flirty and.

[Nick]

Fun. It's maybe the most kindest headline I've gotten from that Daily Mail.

[Greta Teitelman]

Yeah. And you're showing off your gorge.

[Mary]

Bod. They could have definitely been a lot.

[Greta Teitelman]

Meaner. I was saying the other day, I saw one, one like, headline that was like, lip reader says Timmy and Kylie got into a crazy fight as she mouths, I hate you, or like, you hate me. And I'm like.

[Mary]

What? Yes, of course. No, also, you hate me is a form of.

[Greta Teitelman]

Endearment. What do you.

[Sierra]

Mean? I.

[Mary]

Know. I say that to Nick all the.

[Greta Teitelman]

Time. Yeah. When you say you hate me, you hate me. Yeah, yeah.

[Sierra]

Yeah. That means she asked for a.

[Greta Teitelman]

Piece of his cheese, and he was.

[Amanda]

Like, I was gonna eat.

[Mary]

It. And she's like, hate me.

[Greta Teitelman]

Exactly. We know what that.

[Mary]

Means. We know what that means. They're in.

[Greta Teitelman]

Love. They're in.

[Sierra]

Love.

[Justin]

Deeply.

[Greta Teitelman]

Deeply. I was saying the other day, though, that I miss. I miss simpler times when we just had, like, one Internet bully. Like, I missed when we just had Perez Hall.

[Amanda]

Presselton.

[Greta Teitelman]

Yeah. And we just had one guy being so vicious. And then, like, that was.

[Mary]

It. And now.

[Nick]

Everyone. Now it's the cottage.

[Greta Teitelman]

Industry. Yeah. And now it's like, it's gotten too crazy. There are too many.

[Mary]

Haters. Too.

[Nick]

Many. You're like, wait, I can clip this. Cut that. Cut this. Make it sound completely opposite of what they intended to say. Totally. No one will fact check.

[Greta Teitelman]

That.

[Nick]

Exactly. No, no, no, no, no. That would be too much.

[Greta Teitelman]

Work. And, like, Perez Hilton, I mean, he was just getting goofy, giving people really bad.

[Mary]

Nicknames. Where is he these.

[Greta Teitelman]

Days? I think he's been.

[Mary]

Exiled.

[Greta Teitelman]

Yeah. I wonder where he's.

[Amanda]

Living. I share a birthday with Perez Hilton, one of the celebs, March 23rd. Me, Perez.

[Nick]

Hilton.

[Amanda]

Okay. It's an.

[Nick]

Honor. Do you have any famous birthday sharing.

[Greta Teitelman]

Moments? Oh, yeah. Like, do I share my birthday with other famous people other than myself? Yes, actually, a lot. A lot of really impressive ones. I have a really special birthday. I'm born on April 19th. And to just name a few. We have, of course, the incredible Kate.

[Amanda]

Hudson.

[Greta Teitelman]

Beautiful. Who we love. We have the incredible Ali Wong. My dear friend James Scully, born on the same day as me. We have James Franco. You name another James. We have. Oh, There was another April.

[Nick]

19Er. This could make for like a great joint birthday.

[Greta Teitelman]

Party. I know. We could have a really fun time. Wait, there's. Are you looking up April 19th or yours?

[Sierra]

Yours. Give me a quick.

[Amanda]

Sec. My best friend's birthday is also on April.

[Greta Teitelman]

19Th. Yeah, it's a powerful Aries.

[Mary]

Day. Yeah, mine is like Nobody.

[Amanda]

Simulu. April 19. Ashley Judd. Hayden.

[Greta Teitelman]

Christensen. Yes, Hayden. That was the one that I was trying to remember. Tim Curry, period.

[Amanda]

Iconic. Yeah. Gustavo Petro, the Colombian.

[Greta Teitelman]

President. There we.

[Nick]

Go.

[Amanda]

Okay.

[Greta Teitelman]

Yeah. It's a good day. Yeah, yeah, I'd say it's a special.

[Nick]

Day. Of all the movies or TV shows that were recognized of the Golden Globes, did you have a favorite one that you actually enjoyed or subsequently did you have one where you're like, I don't really get this.

[Greta Teitelman]

Show? Okay, see now you're in my wheelhouse because I of course have watched every single thing that's been nominated for. I'm like one of those people when something is nominated for like an Oscar. I need to watch all of the movies or I need to watch all of the things. Yeah, I, I love the.

[Nick]

Business. What you're saying, did you get one battle after.

[Greta Teitelman]

Another? Did I get.

[Nick]

It?

[Greta Teitelman]

I. Yes. What do you.

[Nick]

Mean? I started watching and I gave up on.

[Justin]

It.

[Nick]

What? I. I.

[Greta Teitelman]

Know. Did you go to the movie theater or did you watch it like on your fucking.

[Mary]

Laptop? On his.

[Nick]

Phone? I have a little.

[Greta Teitelman]

Projector. Okay. And you fell.

[Nick]

Asleep. I just stopped.

[Greta Teitelman]

It.

[Nick]

Why? I guess I have bad taste. I.

[Greta Teitelman]

Don'T. Okay, hold on. You need to walk me through where, like, at what point in the movie you stopped it and why and what was going on with you that day? Were you, what was happening? Where were you emotionally when you.

[Mary]

Went to watch this film and where was.

[Nick]

I? You weren't feeling well. Okay, I was watching it by myself. It was right after the baby was born in the movie that I was like, I don't know really. But then my simlies watch it and you know, my dad and I tend to agree on films that we enjoy and he didn't really wasn't into it. So maybe I came in with a biased point of view. You. Maybe I didn't give it its fair shot. What did you love about it? Maybe I should give it another.

[Greta Teitelman]

Shot. Oh, I loved everything about it. I. But I'm such a Paul Thomas Anderson. Like the, the, like, the like cinema boy in me is like fapping to Paul Thomas Anderson all the time. You know, I'm like, I would love to be in any of his movies, like free. I would, I would suck his.

[Mary]

Toes. All.

[Greta Teitelman]

10. All 10. I would put them all in my mouth. And I also love that he's married to Maya Rudolph. I obviously love Maya Rudolph. Idolize Maya Rudolph. I was honored to be in Loot. But what did I love about one battle after another? Literally everything. I loved everything about that movie. To me, it was like I was sitting there and I was like, oh, this is a fucking movie. I'm like, this is cinema. But I also was like nerdy and like saw it at the Vista and 70 millimeter, you know, and like Vista Vision and 70 millimeter. And like, I'm that person that like, will do that. I mean. Yeah, I do. I do. I also just loved. I loved everyone in it. Like, I loved Benicio Del Toro. I loved Teyana Taylor. I loved. I loved Sean Penn. Are you kidding.

[Sierra]

Me? His arms in that.

[Greta Teitelman]

Movie. Gracie, like, you, you need to lock in. You need to go back and you need to lock in and you need to be like, I am watching this because I will enjoy.

[Nick]

It. I see. I came in with a negative attitude. That's my.

[Greta Teitelman]

Problem. I loved it. I also, you know, I. I think it's just cool to watch big ideas and like, things. I feel like it's so rare that we get. And I'm the first person to say this, it's so rare that we get original movies anymore. And it's just fun to see a crazy. It was like a really fun.

[Nick]

Ride. What's one that you didn't quite.

[Greta Teitelman]

Get? One that I didn't quite get.

[Nick]

Or just wasn't for.

[Greta Teitelman]

You. Avatar is one.

[Nick]

That. Have you seen all the.

[Greta Teitelman]

Avatars? Because no, they're.

[Nick]

Two. I've only seen the first one and I was like, I'm.

[Greta Teitelman]

Good. It's just three. Like, you want me to lock in for three plus hours? Like, at least the brutalist gave us a 15 minute intermission. You know what I mean? I'm like, it's so much. But at the same time I'm also like, like go completely off. Like you people are telling you you can make a 3 hour and 13 minute long movie about blue aliens. Like, do.

[Nick]

It.

[Greta Teitelman]

I. Not for.

[Mary]

Me. Did you see Marty.

[Greta Teitelman]

Supreme? I sure.

[Nick]

Did. That I'm excited to see. I am excited to.

[Greta Teitelman]

See. It was so fab. Again. My nerdy. My nerdy ass went Christmas Day, and it was so fun, and I loved it. And yeah, it's. It's all the. All the safety things I would hope.

[Mary]

For. I saw Gwyneth Paltrow, and she was saying that on Marty supreme, she, like, went up to Timothy and she was like, hey, like, I. I know a couple of products and things you can do to, like, help with acne scars. And he was like, so this is all.

[Amanda]

Makeup. Actually, I.

[Mary]

Don'T. This isn't real because he's, like, got the, I guess, like, really bad keloids and acne scars. And it, like, looked so real that Gwyneth was, like, microneedling will really.

[Greta Teitelman]

Help if you just offering her goop. Her goop?

[Sierra]

Mine.

[Greta Teitelman]

Yeah. She was so good in it. She's so. Yeah, she was so. Everyone was so good. And I'm also a huge Shark Tank fan and, you know, love seeing Crazy Mr. Wonderful in that movie. And he was so.

[Nick]

Good. Yeah. Apparently he's got a bit of the. A taste for acting.

[Greta Teitelman]

Now. I. I guess. Even though he's just acting like himself. But. Yeah, I guess. I guess.

[Nick]

So. Yeah. To get apart. To say, just be you. Be an asshole. Just, you know, embrace it, I.

[Mary]

Guess. And he went to Golden Globes, you.

[Sierra]

Know.

[Nick]

Yeah. Well, Mary put together a fun little Golden Globes game for some of the awards you did not get to.

[Justin]

See.

[Amanda]

Yeah. Yeah. You guys, I don't. Everyone here at the Vial Files, like, we're. We're always breaking news. We're always, like, getting stuff sent to us that, like, sometimes we can't share, sometimes we can't. This weekend, I was sent, like, rejected Golden Globes categories that just. They didn't make air. So I thought we would do it.

[Greta Teitelman]

Here. Wait, what do you.

[Amanda]

Mean? Like, categories? They didn't let it.

[Greta Teitelman]

On. Like, real categories that.

[Amanda]

Exist. They're totally real. That.

[Nick]

Exist. They're not.

[Amanda]

Real. What are you talking.

[Greta Teitelman]

About? I'm very.

[Nick]

Gullible.

[Amanda]

Same. So, all right, the first one is best wig. Okay, first up, we have the diva from Weapons. The Hunting Wives.

[Greta Teitelman]

All.

[Mary]

Yeah. Oh, yeah. That was.

[Amanda]

Crazy. Ashley Padilla in that one SNL sketch. And Emma Stone after Begonia when she was on the red carpet and everyone was like, did she shave her head? Is that a.

[Greta Teitelman]

Wig? Wow. I know. My.

[Mary]

Winner. Who's your.

[Greta Teitelman]

Winner? My opener is the hunting.

[Amanda]

Wise. Yeah, those.

[Greta Teitelman]

Wigs. Yeah.

[Amanda]

Yeah. And they were doing so much, and none of them fell.

[Greta Teitelman]

Off. Well, the story behind those wigs is also.

[Mary]

Crazy. Yeah. Wasn't it, like, she was supposed to have a different one and it, like, didn't get made in time or.

[Greta Teitelman]

Something? Like, they fully. I'm fairly certain. Don't quote me on this, but I think, like, Malin Ackerman's wig was, like, something happened where they had to, like, fully just order her a wig from Amazon. And I think it was.

[Mary]

Amazon.

[Greta Teitelman]

Yeah. I think it was just, like, a wig you could just buy, you know, like, wow. I think that they then had to get her a different wig, which is why she had that kind of.

[Mary]

Hairstyle when they went to politics. Yeah.

[Sierra]

Done.

[Mary]

Yeah. She got a better.

[Amanda]

Wig. It's crazy because I do feel like the bad wig is the magic of the show. Like, I don't know if the show would have hit for me if the wig wasn't what it.

[Justin]

Was.

[Amanda]

Totally.

[Mary]

Yeah. Do you think they'll do Wigs season.

[Greta Teitelman]

Two? You know, it kind of did become such, like, a element of this show. They're crazy wigs, but I don't know. I was on a show where we also had bad wigs the first season, and my character. It's the show Los Espookies. One of the best.

[Amanda]

Shows. Los.

[Greta Teitelman]

Espookies. Incredible. Everyone should go watch it. But my character was not supposed to have bangs. But we were in, like, a wig pickle, and the best we could do was, like, lob bangs into this wig. And then it had. We had to, like, remark on it because it was like a shift, like in Hunting Wives. And I always like that because you know that that's not.

[Mary]

Scripted. Did it make you want to get bangs, or were you.

[Greta Teitelman]

Like. No. I mean, no. It was like, the wig was honestly so bad that I was. And it was funny, but the wig was so bad. And when you're in such a bad wig, you are a little distracted. You are kind of like, I have this really crazy mop on my.

[Mary]

Head. It's.

[Greta Teitelman]

Hot. It's hot. And, like, if it doesn't fit your head, like, right, or if it's too tight, I don't.

[Mary]

Know.

[Greta Teitelman]

Itchy.

[Amanda]

Yeah.

[Greta Teitelman]

Itchy.

[Amanda]

Yeah. All right, well, the next. The next category. Best TV show or film. Your boyfriend's co worker told you about that you never plan on watching but have heard good things. We have one battle after another andor Slow Horses and Marty.

[Mary]

Supreme. You have seen.

[Sierra]

All.

[Amanda]

Yes.

[Nick]

Yeah. You know, I have often wondered what Slow Horses is about, because I always see.

[Greta Teitelman]

It.

[Nick]

Okay. And I hear you're a big.

[Greta Teitelman]

Fan. I'm the only, like, non septuagenarian that watches Slow Horses. That's a woman. Like, everyone that I know that watches Slow Horses is my dad. He's 80, and my father in law, he's 77. And they're. Yeah, King. Absolutely. I'm addicted to Gary Oldman. He can absolutely break me in.

[Nick]

Half. Love him in True.

[Greta Teitelman]

Romance. Yeah. Come on. I mean, him in.

[Nick]

Hottie. Pretty much.

[Greta Teitelman]

Anything. One of my favorite films of all time, Fifth Element. So good. Okay. What is Slow Horses about? Is that what you're. It's about a reject division of.

[Sierra]

MI6. Oh, that sounds.

[Nick]

Awesome. I feel like I'd be into.

[Greta Teitelman]

That. You would. And it's. And you know, it's like them solving global.

[Justin]

Terror.

[Mary]

Oh. Do you feel like their marketing team just, like, wasn't that good or something? Why do I feel like it's.

[Greta Teitelman]

So. It's based on a book series. And I think that as are a lot of programs on Apple tv, I don't think Apple TV necessarily does, like, the best marketing, I would say, or.

[Nick]

Apple. You're gonna watch it or not watch it.

[Greta Teitelman]

Whatever. Cause the thing about Apple is, like, guess what? It's on all of your devices, and it's like, you see it. But I feel like they only really did really strong marketing for, like, severance and, like, F1. Like, I don't know. I don't feel like they. I feel like they don't even really push morning show that hard, which is.

[Nick]

Crazy. No, they really don't.

[Greta Teitelman]

Anymore. Yeah. Oh, wait. But to answer the question, I would actually say andor. Yeah, People, like, really get for andor. And that's very boy. And, like, that would be the kind of thing where your boyfriend's friend would be like. Like, it's about. It's. It's like, actually really about politics and regime change and, like. And you're like.

[Nick]

Okay.

[Greta Teitelman]

Imperialism.

[Amanda]

Yeah. I really loved when they went pew.

[Greta Teitelman]

Pew. Yeah, I thought that.

[Mary]

Was.

[Amanda]

And. Or.

[Sierra]

And.

[Greta Teitelman]

Or.

[Amanda]

And. Or.

[Greta Teitelman]

The. The.

[Amanda]

Dash. All right, the next category is Best homoerotic subtext. First up, we have Dr. Robbie and the mouse boy from the Pit. We have Bronwyn and Whitney from the Real Housewives of Salt Lake City. We have the hockey stage Sticks from heated rivalry. And we have the gay hive mind people in.

[Nick]

Pluribus. Hockey.

[Amanda]

Sticks. Hockey.

[Greta Teitelman]

Sticks. I think I'm gonna go with Housewives.

[Amanda]

Yeah. Because they're kissing.

[Greta Teitelman]

There. They're kissing. And I know a little bit about Bronwyn and. Is that Whitney.

[Mary]

Rose?

[Amanda]

Yes. Whitney Wild.

[Greta Teitelman]

Rose. So people have told me that I kind of look like her, which I think is really bizarre because I personally don't see.

[Amanda]

It. You have a blonde.

[Greta Teitelman]

Bob. You have blonde hair. I've had multiple people DM me being like, you look so much like Whitney Rose. Do a Whitney Rose, like, character video. And I'm like, I don't see it.

[Amanda]

But. But I do agree that they have the best home erotic.

[Greta Teitelman]

Subtext.

[Nick]

Great.

[Amanda]

Yeah. All right. Best movie. That's not from this year. But I've just been thinking about it. My Cousin Vinnie. Mean Girls. Sister act and Sister.

[Nick]

Act. My cousin.

[Greta Teitelman]

Vinnie. I'm gonna actually go. So Sister act one.

[Nick]

One.

[Greta Teitelman]

Okay. Yeah.

[Nick]

Yeah. Whoopi was.

[Amanda]

Great. Whoopi is.

[Greta Teitelman]

Great. Sister Act 1. Isn't that if you wanna be somebody? Yeah. I.

[Nick]

Mean. Oh, she can.

[Greta Teitelman]

Sing. Oh, yeah. I mean, I'm shirley temple since.

[Mary]

8. She can do.

[Greta Teitelman]

Everything. I'm like, were you my mother? Yeah. Sister Act. I've been thinking about that movie quite a bit. Lauryn.

[Amanda]

Hill. Lauren Hill's in Sister Act.

[Greta Teitelman]

2. 2? Yeah. Wait, what happens in.

[Nick]

2? And she's a.

[Amanda]

Teacher. 2. She's at a school, and then Lauryn Hill is a student. I feel like they're trying to save the school. I don't.

[Greta Teitelman]

Remember. Wait, but what happens in one.

[Nick]

One is she goes to the church convent because she, like, witnessed a murder or.

[Greta Teitelman]

Something. Right. In, like, Las Vegas. Okay, so I'm thinking of two.

[Amanda]

Yeah. The correct answer was.

[Rob C]

Two.

[Amanda]

Yeah. Not that this is. I mean.

[Greta Teitelman]

Yeah. I'm thinking of when they. When they perform. When they compete and they perform. Yeah. You down with G. O.

[Amanda]

D?

[Greta Teitelman]

Yeah. You know.

[Nick]

Me.

[Greta Teitelman]

Yeah. Okay, that's two. Yeah. Six Track two.

[Amanda]

Yes. Everyone watched six Track two. Those were all the categories they sent.

[Nick]

Us.

[Greta Teitelman]

Okay.

[Nick]

Okay. We had the Winter Olympics coming up, and I hear you. Can't.

[Greta Teitelman]

Wait. I can't.

[Nick]

Wait. Can you explain curling to.

[Greta Teitelman]

Me? Sure. I mean, I don't really know the rules, but I can, like, explain the.

[Nick]

Concept. Oh, I know the concept. I'm just not sure the.

[Greta Teitelman]

Rules. Well, I know that there's the. The thrower in the sweeper, right? Like, the guy that's.

[Justin]

Like. That.

[Greta Teitelman]

Makes. I think it's just how. I think the rules are. This. Toss that disc, honey. You know, I think the rules are. I think the rules are. Let's see how far you can. You can glide this.

[Mary]

Disc. And since you are Shirley Temple, what sport would you play if you were an.

[Greta Teitelman]

Olympian? As Shirley Temple or, like. Okay, the Shirley Temple side Of me. Obviously it would be figure skating. Yes, obviously. Like, that's number one. But, like, the real. The real me. No, like, the athlete in me. I would probably want to do, like, downhill ski.

[Nick]

Racing. I always wondered, like, how do you practice? You know, the big ski jump where they. How do you. It's like, I've always wondered, like, the first time you put those skis on there, you just go down the big hill and.

[Greta Teitelman]

Fall. I mean, they practice. And first you, like, practice jumping into, like, like pits of.

[Nick]

Foam.

[Greta Teitelman]

Oh. And then you jump into, like, a pool. That's a whole other thing. And then you slowly build your way up to jumping off that big, big, swoopy, snowy.

[Nick]

Mass. Have you ever been to the.

[Greta Teitelman]

Olympics? I have not ever been to the Olympics. I've gone to World Cups for ski racing. My family is really big in skiing and skiing the ski community. So.

[Nick]

I've. Moguls or.

[Greta Teitelman]

Slalom. Like, what is. My. My cousins were ski racers and they were slalom skiers and giant slalom skiers. Not moguls. My aunt is a really good mogul skier. My little cousin Tyler, he's like a freestyle skier right now. You know, they're all just like, crazy ski, ski people. I. I love to ski, but I love to do, like, you know, I don't want to get injured. My husband tried to kill me last year. Skiing. Yeah. Tried to kill me. Took me on a kitty trail and took me.

[Nick]

Out. Are you guys competitive, you and your.

[Greta Teitelman]

Husband? In what.

[Nick]

Capacity?

[Greta Teitelman]

Any. Sure. Yeah, I definitely. Like, when we go to Barry's boot camp, I'm checking what weights he's grabbing, you.

[Mary]

Know. You're checking his.

[Greta Teitelman]

Form? I'm checking his form. I'm pushing.

[Nick]

Him.

[Greta Teitelman]

Okay. I'm saying it's gain season.

[Mary]

Sweetie. You're saying you're.

[Greta Teitelman]

Sweating. I'm saying creatine gummies don't cut it. I'm saying you gotta be drinking that powder. I drink the powder.

[Nick]

Period. Yeah, I hear it's good for.

[Greta Teitelman]

My. And that's why you're running half naked? That's why you're running half naked. Yeah, I would love to. I would love to, like, fly. Actually, you know what? I would be if I was totally psychotic, I would do skull sculling. That's what I would.

[Justin]

Do.

[Amanda]

What?

[Greta Teitelman]

Skulling? What is that? That is when you are face down, head first on a sled. It's.

[Nick]

Crazy. They're like bobsled. Not dangerous.

[Greta Teitelman]

Enough. Yeah.

[Nick]

Yeah. No, just a tiny sled. Go face first. Yeah, but you get to wear a.

[Greta Teitelman]

Helmet. Yeah. It's. And how do you steer? You have. I believe you have like two. I think you are holding on to, like, either side. It's. You should look up videos. It's crazy. Bobsledding also would be really.

[Nick]

Cool. Well, cool.

[Greta Teitelman]

Runnings.

[Justin]

Yeah. Great.

[Greta Teitelman]

Movie.

[Amanda]

Yeah.

[Nick]

Yeah. R.I.P. john.

[Greta Teitelman]

Candy. Yeah. So. And then there's so many other winter sports that I'm probably not thinking.

[Justin]

Of. Are.

[Mary]

You. So are you your winter over.

[Greta Teitelman]

Summer? No, I'm summer over winter for.

[Sierra]

Sure.

[Greta Teitelman]

Gymnastics. I, I Gymnastics. Well, tennis is my favorite sport of all time. I'm really okay if anyone's listening to this, like, I need to be a correspondent. Get me to Rome. Okay. That's where I need to go. I can be like an American correspondent. I can talk. I can talk for a brand. Like, I'll talk for a. Are truly like, the green ball. Like, I don't care, you.

[Nick]

Know? Can you give us like, your best, like, whisper tennis commentator, you know.

[Greta Teitelman]

Like. Well, they don't really whisper. It's not.

[Nick]

Golf. They don't whisper at all. No, because then aren't you supposed to be.

[Greta Teitelman]

Quiet? Yeah. You are quiet. Like when they're playing the point. Or like, you know, but not even when they're playing the point. You're really just quiet when they serve and then you're watching them.

[Nick]

Play. It.

[Mary]

Is. Yeah, it is.

[Greta Teitelman]

Reactive. I feel like. No, summer is my favorite because I love track and.

[Mary]

Field. Nick was the state.

[Amanda]

Champion.

[Mary]

Wow. You were.

[Nick]

Wisconsin.

[Greta Teitelman]

Wow. For.

[Mary]

What? Four and.

[Nick]

Eight.

[Greta Teitelman]

Wow. My goodness. Well, you have had Matt Rogers on this.

[Nick]

Show.

[Greta Teitelman]

Yeah. And you know, also an incredibly.

[Mary]

Fast. They raced after in. Nick.

[Justin]

Won. No, I.

[Sierra]

Did. Wait, did you guys Shows race.

[Amanda]

After. Wait, you guys should race. That'll be the promo. Is Nick and Matt.

[Greta Teitelman]

Racing? Who's your favorite.

[Nick]

Runner? Used to be. I did meet Carl Lewis on my season of the Bachelor. That was pretty cool. Michael Johnson, probably back in the day was. I was probably the biggest fan.

[Greta Teitelman]

Of. Yeah. I really love watching track and field. It's really.

[Nick]

Fun. Fun fact. Michael Johnson, when he won the gold in the 400, his heart rate, I heard, was lower after he finished the race than before he.

[Amanda]

Started. Wow. That's.

[Greta Teitelman]

Cool. That's.

[Nick]

Crazy. Isn't that crazy? I don't know if that's true. I just heard it. It sounded really cool. Maybe I'm just passing along fake knowledge, but it just spoke to, like, how. Well, like, it was more, like he was more.

[Greta Teitelman]

Nervous.

[Nick]

Right. And his anxiety, like, his heart rate was up. But because he's so in shape, he Just calmed.

[Greta Teitelman]

Down. If you. If that. What sports would you guys do if you had to be in the.

[Nick]

Olympics? I mean, I dreamed about being in track and field. Olympian back in the.

[Sierra]

Day. Is this like, if we had had the capabilities or like, where I'm at right.

[Amanda]

Now?

[Sierra]

No. Well, we're a.

[Greta Teitelman]

Spectator. Yeah. Spectator ticket.

[Sierra]

Holder. Yes. If I could have any skill, it would be gymnastics for sure. Like the uneven.

[Greta Teitelman]

Bars.

[Amanda]

Yeah. Nuts. Basketball all the.

[Greta Teitelman]

Way. Okay. Yeah, I like.

[Amanda]

That. I. I would love. I would love to just be around the women of the.

[Nick]

Wnba. I could picture you windmill dunk over.

[Amanda]

Someone. Yeah. I feel like I would be a good point guard, you know, trust me, with a little assist. Get someone else to dunk.

[Greta Teitelman]

It. Easy.

[Amanda]

Peasy. I think gold medal for.

[Sierra]

Me.

[Mary]

Easily. I'd probably be like horseback.

[Greta Teitelman]

Riding. Beautiful. We love the.

[Mary]

Equestrians. Love the.

[Nick]

Equestrians. Do you think they'll ever do the sport where, you know the. What's the sport where the people hold the toy horses? Do you ever see those? Yeah. And they hop over the fences with.

[Greta Teitelman]

The. Yeah. Isn't it like hobby.

[Nick]

Horses?

[Greta Teitelman]

Yes. Yeah. No, I don't think I'm super.

[Nick]

Into watching those clips because they're so.

[Mary]

Serious. I think after the breakdancing, they're.

[Amanda]

Like, ugh, that's still the best thing that ever.

[Greta Teitelman]

Happened. That.

[Amanda]

Was. I'm still laughing about.

[Greta Teitelman]

Her. That was really.

[Mary]

Crazy.

[Greta Teitelman]

It's. I think I'm. I'm also really fascinated by the archery in Summer Olympics and like, how badass. All of.

[Amanda]

Those.

[Greta Teitelman]

The. What is it. What is it called when you. It's guns.

[Amanda]

But. Oh, the.

[Greta Teitelman]

Shooting. The.

[Nick]

Shooting. Yeah, when they combine things like skiing and shooting or.

[Greta Teitelman]

Archery. Oh, that's called. What is that called? That's called biathlon. A.

[Nick]

Biathlon? Yeah, that's the name of.

[Amanda]

It. The combination of cross country skiing and rifle shooting at the Winter Olympics is called.

[Sierra]

Biathlon. Yeah. So they have to ski, stay upright, and then also hold a gun the entire time and shoot.

[Nick]

Like. Well, I think it's just about, like, being, like, really tired and breathing and then having to, like, calm yourself.

[Greta Teitelman]

And. Cause it's cross country skiing. So you're not like necessarily going. Going fast. You're just like on skis, like, moving through relatively flat.

[Sierra]

Terrain.

[Greta Teitelman]

Okay. But it's very. Yeah. Exhausting speed.

[Mary]

Skating. Nick was on special forces with Bodie.

[Nick]

Miller.

[Amanda]

Yeah.

[Greta Teitelman]

Wow. Oh, there you.

[Mary]

Go. So you're also basically a downhill.

[Amanda]

Skiller.

[Greta Teitelman]

Yes. I think I could be making this up, but I think in one race, he was going so fast and he, like, like, skied over a fence. Like a plastic fence. Like, melted the.

[Nick]

Plastic. He's a.

[Mary]

Man. I just saw his wife, Morgan Post when he.

[Amanda]

Like.

[Mary]

Yeah. Lost one ski and then.

[Greta Teitelman]

Finished.

[Mary]

Yeah. With.

[Greta Teitelman]

One. I'm very excited to watch Lindsay Vaughn come, like, the. A crazy comeback. She's going to be competing in the.

[Nick]

Olympics. Oh, she.

[Greta Teitelman]

Yeah. It's wild. I mean, 40 years old. But I think the thing that's crazy is, like, skiing is such a hard sport and like, I don't know, like anything when you, like, you have a prime and then when you get injured and injured. Injured, injured. And then you, like, have surgery and then you come back, it's like crazy to be making a comeback and to even.

[Mary]

Qualify. Do you know Jake Paul's fiance.

[Amanda]

Is.

[Mary]

Yes. She's a speed.

[Greta Teitelman]

Skater. She is.

[Sierra]

Yeah. She's just the big, long, long.

[Greta Teitelman]

Track. And then.

[Justin]

There'S.

[Greta Teitelman]

That'S. Then there's that golfer who's married to pole.

[Mary]

Vaulter. Your brain. You have a lot of knowledge.

[Greta Teitelman]

In there of bullshit, like crazy. Of literally.

[Amanda]

Nothing. Ricky.

[Greta Teitelman]

Fowler. Yeah. Ricky.

[Amanda]

Fowler. His wife is.

[Greta Teitelman]

Polter. Yeah, yeah. I know a bunch of random bullshit. Like, I can list you all of the names of Gwen Stefani's children. It's like, why do I know that?

[Justin]

Terrible.

[Greta Teitelman]

I. It's like, just takes. If you quizzed me on celebrity children, children's names, I would know.

[Mary]

Them.

[Greta Teitelman]

Wow. And that's.

[Sierra]

Upsetting. How do you feel like you would do on.

[Greta Teitelman]

Jeopardy?

[Mary]

Great.

[Amanda]

Yeah. Pop culture.

[Sierra]

Jeopardy. No, regular.

[Greta Teitelman]

Jeopardy. My problem though is it's like, I think the. The trigger, like, you know, and then always needing to say what is that would fuck me up. Yeah, I'm not very good. Like, I. Under that pressure. I'm not. I don't.

[Nick]

Know. Well, before you let go, you are a true crime.

[Greta Teitelman]

Fan. I am.

[Nick]

Yeah. Did she do it? Karen.

[Greta Teitelman]

Reid? Wait, hold on. I am a true. Wait, which is. Which one is Karen Reed hit.

[Mary]

The cop to Boston, arrested by a cop boyfriend out.

[Greta Teitelman]

Front. Oh, right, right, right out front. And the tail light and the da, da.

[Sierra]

Da. Was it the corrupt Boston police or was it Karen Reid backed into him with the broken tail.

[Greta Teitelman]

Light? Oh, I think it was the.

[Mary]

Police. 100 p. All the texts are coming out now. Yeah, yeah.

[Greta Teitelman]

Yeah. Also, didn't they say that it was like, imp. Possible that she would have killed him at that speed? Yeah, like.

[Nick]

Yeah. Do you have, like, a. A favorite true crime case you're currently.

[Greta Teitelman]

Following? Well, I'm listening to this podcast. Why am I now? I'M like blanking on what it's called. See, this is why I would not be listening to it, you know. Well, it's like every episode is a different like, scammer basically. And I just was like listening to one episode about this guy who was scamming a bunch of people out of their money and like owned like wedding venues and things of that sort. I was like kind of on the run. Went by a million different people's names. This. Anyway, started companies. I'm like, really? I'm in a scammer mode right now. I did just watch Bad Influencer, the.

[Mary]

Newest. Oh, I've heard that it was like a hard watch. Did you find.

[Greta Teitelman]

That? Well, it's just. I mean, I watched the other one about Ruby, Frankie, Frankie, Ruby, Frankie. And then now this is about like. Yeah, the co conspirator of that. And like, like, it's. To me, they're just so sick, like both of them, that it's not enjoyable. I mean, not that any of the true crime stuff is necessarily enjoyable.

[Nick]

But like, some of them are darker than.

[Amanda]

Others. Yeah, some of them makes you feel like.

[Greta Teitelman]

Really?

[Nick]

Yeah. Especially the, like, when kids are.

[Greta Teitelman]

Involved. Yeah. The stuff dealing with kids and like just. Yeah, the. That's.

[Nick]

Terrible.

[Greta Teitelman]

It. But I think we're all also fascinated obviously, because it's like a whole different psychology of a really up person. I don't know. Not.

[Mary]

Great. Not great, not good. Not.

[Greta Teitelman]

Good. Really bad. I also listened to you. Have you listened to this podcast, Unicorn Girl? Another scammer podcast, but this one, this chica mama was crazy. She was like, like, you know when people lie, but then because they're lying, they get the thing that they're lying about. Do you know what I mean? Like, if I was like, yeah, I'm gonna. I'm. I have this. I. I have these brown painted cowboy boots. I have these brown painted cowboy boots. Even though I don't. But then like, I somehow end up getting the brown painted cowboy boots. Do you know. Do you get what I'm saying by.

[Nick]

That? Manifest it, I.

[Greta Teitelman]

Guess. Manifest it. But like when you. That's a bad example. The cowboy boots didn't work. Basically. She was like, I have government contracts. She was like, I have CIA defense government contracts. This is a whole other.

[Nick]

Thing. And then people start sending.

[Greta Teitelman]

Her. Yes. Yeah. And then she like ended up having like seven like former black ops people, like, on this project with her. Her whole thing was like getting women out of sex trafficking.

[Mary]

Situations. That's like the girl who made her finsta account, like A cake baking. And then she started having to like, bake actual cakes because she started getting.

[Greta Teitelman]

Orders.

[Nick]

Yeah. Or yeah. Wasn't there like someone who like, pretended to be a nurse forever and she was like, treating.

[Amanda]

Patients? Oh.

[Nick]

Yeah. Never like a.

[Greta Teitelman]

Nurse. That. This is that.

[Mary]

Woman.

[Amanda]

Ok.

[Sierra]

Okay.

[Greta Teitelman]

She.

[Mary]

She. She's still in.

[Greta Teitelman]

Business. It's. She was a nurse. Well, she. And then she like started this. She wanted to get women out of sex trafficking or and just like being trafficked. And then she went to like help women escape the Taliban. It's all fucking crazy. If you want to listen to something that you're listening to it and you're kind of like, what are you talking about? It's that another good true.

[Nick]

Crime. Well, thanks for coming. This has been so much.

[Greta Teitelman]

Fun. Thanks for having me.

[Amanda]

It's. It's. I.

[Nick]

Yeah. Thanks for talking to.

[Mary]

Us. But I said thanks for gabbing with.

[Greta Teitelman]

Us. Yeah. I hope we all learned something.

[Mary]

Today. I definitely learned Nick's gonna learn.

[Amanda]

How to watch a movie like a big.

[Greta Teitelman]

Boy. Yeah, you need to like, lock in and watch it. You also need to go see Marty Supreme. That's so boy. Did you watch any other movies? Did you watch any of the other movies that were.

[Mary]

Nominated? Did.

[Greta Teitelman]

You? Definitely didn't watch Sentimental Value. You definitely didn't watch.

[Nick]

Hamnet. I. Now you're just being mean. I am not.

[Greta Teitelman]

Motivated. No other choice. You should go watch that. Okay, what else was.

[Amanda]

Nominated? Kate Hudson and Song Tung.

[Greta Teitelman]

Blue. I didn't see that.

[Amanda]

Movie. Oh, I love that movie. That.

[Greta Teitelman]

Rocked. Also the Secret Agent, the Wagner Mora movie. Who won last.

[Nick]

Night? I got a lot of homework.

[Mary]

A lot of get ready, get on.

[Nick]

It. Are you.

[Greta Teitelman]

Touring? Oh, my God, yes. Wait, when is this coming.

[Nick]

Out?

[Greta Teitelman]

Tomorrow. Oh, okay, great. If you're in San Francisco, I'm going to be there for San Francisco Comedy Festival and I'm going to be performing on the 23rd of.

[Nick]

January. Where can people find.

[Greta Teitelman]

Tickets? People can find tickets, absolutely. On my.

[Nick]

Website. We will put that link in the show description so people can easily find it.

[Greta Teitelman]

Yeah. You should really come. It's going to be so fab. And I'm even more gorgeous in.

[Mary]

Person. It's.

[Nick]

True. Greta settlement, everybody. Thank.

[Mary]

You. So.

[Nick]

Fun. The amazing, great assettlement.

[Sierra]

Everybody. Very.

[Mary]

Funny. Love her full.

[Amanda]

Knowledge. She does. I. I do feel representative of someone that like, knows a bunch of random things when there's someone else that like, knows a bunch of random things.

[Justin]

Also. I mean, this has a compliment, but I see the Whitney rose comparison. I didn't think it until she brought it up and I see it. I mean, it's in the bob in the eye.

[Nick]

Guys. No, that's like she's literally. That's like the Internet saying, any guy with curly hair and a couple stubbles on his face looks like.

[Mary]

Me. Any.

[Justin]

Brunette. Were they.

[Amanda]

Wrong? I mean, yeah. I mean, in the way that.

[Nick]

Like, it's just like, oh, my boyfriend looks just like you and they send me a picture. It's like a person with. It's a guy with curly.

[Justin]

Hair. That's true. It's never a compliment when someone says you look like this person. That's true. But I mean it as a compliment. I see the Whitney rose, I.

[Nick]

Guess. I guess. I mean, both wonderfully looking people. I just like one. They.

[Amanda]

Have. They have two different faces. They have different faces. Isn't Greta so funny? You should. Guys should like, go and go.

[Nick]

Check out our show description. She is performing in San.

[Amanda]

Francisco. We're going to link her website.

[Nick]

Yeah. All right, Traders, we got Rob C. Joining us just in a moment. But before we get to Rob. It's a good.

[Sierra]

Season. Oh, I'm loving every minute of this show. We are.

[Amanda]

Back.

[Nick]

Rob. Sexy Rob or. Well, I mean, they're both.

[Sierra]

Sexy. Everyone on Traders is so.

[Amanda]

Good. But yes, Rob, Sexy Rob. I do fear I am team Traders. I'm team turret this season. Candace. Rena, like, give it to.

[Nick]

Me. No one's suspecting them at.

[Amanda]

All.

[Sierra]

No. I think Candace kind of seems like she would be the most obvious, but that's kind of a why I liked the fact that they added in, like, the secret Trader because I feel like it kind of humbled the audience a little bit. Even though we. I think a lot of people did suspect Mama.

[Nick]

Kelsey. I'm shocked.

[Amanda]

That. Kind of glad she was gone.

[Nick]

Soon.

[Amanda]

What?

[Nick]

Sorry. Shame on.

[Amanda]

You. Was everyone was going to be scared of voting her off because of the Swifties, so it's nice that she got her.

[Nick]

Moment. I've. I've had the flu, so I haven't really looked. But what. What have the Swifties.

[Amanda]

Said? I mean, I think the Swifties get. I think it was nice that she had her special moment as the secret Trader. I've been on. I've been on Rob is so hot side of Traders. Twitter not. We're mad.

[Greta Teitelman]

At. We're mad about.

[Sierra]

Donna. I kind of think the Swifties like, were like, they got their shout out and they were like, oh, we can't do what they think we're going to do. So we're going to be.

[Nick]

Elegant. We're.

[Mary]

Classy.

[Amanda]

Yeah. Let's treat people. People with.

[Sierra]

Kindness. It's their queen's mother in.

[Nick]

Law. Like, I can't believe.

[Justin]

Portia. I.

[Nick]

Know. Got. Got kind of bamboozled by.

[Amanda]

Candice. She caught her on a flat.

[Nick]

Lie. Impressed by that.

[Rob C]

Lie.

[Nick]

I. The way that Candace did not hesitate. She's like, oh, you must have misheard.

[Mary]

Me. I didn't say.

[Nick]

Today. I didn't say today. I rewinded yesterday. You were talking about the thing that we did today.

[Justin]

Huh? Maura Higgins going, I don't recall that. Yeah, she was. She got saved by Maura not remembering.

[Mary]

It. To be honest, if Maura. And Maura's like, I don't even remember what I had for breakfast. It's like, how is your memory that bad? Like, y' all all had a discussion. Y' all all had visceral reactions to Michael allegedly saying, get the.

[Nick]

Housewives. It was true gaslighting. Because Portia was like, I don't know. Maybe I misheard her. I don't.

[Sierra]

Know. It's also why Candace is such a queen on Potomac. I'm like, the way that she can backtrack and then make you feel.

[Justin]

Crazy. No. And then Portia, like, bless her heart, I love her. And honestly, she's too smart for the cast because the fact that she said there's four traitors and nobody knew that, and people think she's just slipped up. I don't think she slipped up. I think she's.

[Mary]

Smart. That was a crazy thing to say.

[Justin]

Though. It.

[Amanda]

Was. Portia has had the potential of being, like, the Gabby Wendy of the season, where everyone would have underestimated her, but she was.

[Justin]

Right. I.

[Nick]

Don'T. Well, I don't think anyone under.

[Mary]

Esther estimated I think the thing that was so great about Gabby was that she could really hold her own at the round table. And I felt like Portia's argument just, like, wasn't as good as it could have.

[Justin]

Been. She didn't get a chance to cook. Like, if you guys know Portia, she would have gone for the jugular with everybody, but she was choosing losing peace. And then they took advantage of.

[Nick]

Her. Sometimes you have to warm up. And I think early on, I feel like most people are just like.

[Amanda]

Don'T. Yeah, don't go too.

[Nick]

Much. Don't do too.

[Amanda]

Much. Don't be Michael Rapaport in this.

[Nick]

Moment. Yeah, Michael. I'm enjoying Michael. I know he's pissing everyone off, but, like, you need.

[Sierra]

That. The editors knew what they were doing. Like, showing him shoveling that food into his mouth like they were just like, just so you know, when he's.

[Nick]

Like, I'm the greatest looking.

[Amanda]

Guy. My favorite part of Michael Rappaport on Traders is that video of him getting thrown, a snowball thrown at him going viral again. It always makes me laugh. It's so.

[Nick]

Silly. Well, we do have Rob C, a survivor legend and unfortunately an early faithful exit, joining us to talk all about traitors, what he thinks about his cast, why he thinks he got murdered, and so much more. This episode is sponsored by Better Help. The new year doesn't require a new you. Maybe just a less burdened one. Therapy can easily identify what weighs you down, holds you back by offering an unbiased perspective to better understand your relationships, motivations and emotions. We all know that therapy can be beneficial to your mental health. But we also know that it can be challenging to start. It can be intimidating, costly, inconvenient. Sometimes you don't know how to find a therapist. Well, BetterHelp alleviates all those pain points. It's more affordable than inpatient therapy. It's incredibly easy to find a therapist that's right for you because BetterHelp is working with over 30, 30, 000 therapists and they allow you to switch therapists for free until you land on a therapist that you feel very comfortable with. BetterHelp is one of the world's largest online therapy platforms, having served over 5 million people globally. And it works with an average rating of 4.9 out of 5 for a live session based on over 1.7 million client reviews. So if you have been considering therapy but putting it off, check out BetterHelp Help. All you have to do is go to betterhelp.com, answer a few questions about what kind of therapy you're looking for, and they will identify a therapist that they think is right for you. And don't forget, if that therapist isn't someone that you feel the most comfortable with, no problem. They have a long list of therapists that you can switch for free anytime, until you feel like you are connected with someone who really gets you better help. Makes it easy to get matched online with a qualified therapist. Sign up and get 10 off at betterhelp.com v I a l that's BetterHelp. H e l p.com v I a L L Rob, welcome to the.

[Rob C]

Show. Wow, what an honor. So excited to be.

[Nick]

Here. Thanks for having me. We are honored to have you. We are super bummed to see you go. You know one of our household members, Zach, who works for Us the Greatest was incredibly excited that you got casted and was talking about how well he thought you were going to do. And obviously we're super bummed. But you know, as, as the show goes, you just, just so much is out of your control. And it really seems like now that we're in the. It's the fourth season. Yeah. Am I right? I feel like the, the rest of the non gamers, so to speak, have caught on to the fact that you guys are really good at this and I clearly not that.

[Rob C]

Good. Nick, I'm.

[Nick]

Here. Sure. But like early on, you know, it's just like let you know, you kind of, just kind of, you know, like Wells last year. I mean, it's like what are you gonna, you know, someone's gotta go. And then like when it seems like when people just like get a in their mouth, it's like as long as it's not me, people will vote for that person. But your case is particularly interesting because you got murdered in plain sight. And at least from what we saw, it sure seemed like you were kind of on them when it was happening. I don't know if that was as clever editing, but can you just kind of walk us through your murder and did you see it coming? How close were you to maybe catching them red handed? And I just want to get your thoughts and feelings on the whole.

[Rob C]

Thing. I'm at the castle and it's a sad night because Portia just got banished and I just felt like, wow, this night is a very long night. I'm. I'm ready to go to bed. And it just was an endless night. And I just realized, oh my God, what if the Traders are up to something tonight? Because there typically is a murder in plain sight early on in the season. And so I'm sort of like looking around and then a frickin conga line breaks out. And it was not the kind of night where it was like, hey, we're partying, let's have a congline. It seemed very out of the ordinary, so I went and ducked into a room to go hide. Which I, I think anytime you're at a party and a conga line breaks out, go hide. That is, I think the absolutely.

[Nick]

Want nothing to do with the Congo line.

[Rob C]

Period. You don't want anything to do with. Especially you know, you don't to be on TV doing a conga line. And I went into the other room and then I, I felt very close with Tiffany, who I told about it, and I felt very close with Candace and Mark and I, I wanted to warn them, like, hey, I think the traders are up to something. And then I had. Remember Candace had mentioned earlier that this was not the first time she mentioned the conga line. And I said, oh, wait, no, but, but you were the one that started the conga line. And I felt like, oh, maybe I shouldn't have said that. And I didn't know if that was going to come back. I think ultimately she never got back together with the other traders, so it didn't ultimately come back to bite me. But I did have a moment where I was like, ooh, I did. I might have put my foot in my.

[Nick]

Mouth. Yeah.

[Mary]

Yeah. I was going to ask you if you felt it was coincidence or like you slipped up and maybe you shouldn't have told him that you.

[Rob C]

Thought. I don't think I should have told Candace, but I really, I felt good about her. She was somebody that I had been working with, but I wasn't trying to go to Candace and be confrontational with her. And I mean, could you imagine had Rob R. Not picked me to be the person to be murdered in plain sight? Like, I think it would have been a big problem for the traitors had I been there the next.

[Mary]

Day. Did you feel like him and Rinna playing chess was odd too, or did that feel.

[Rob C]

Normal? You know, Rob R. Played chess with so many people in the castle. I did not think it was specifically weird that he. I had seen him in that same seat with multiple people over the last couple of days, so it didn't seem like it was too out of the ordinary for.

[Nick]

Me. Rob. Rob ours plan clearly is kind of play that quiet, cool, good looking guy. He seems really good at it. We got what I was going to do. Equally handsome. But um, we got to see him obviously as season six and, and also interview him a while back, but he's clearly no dummy, but he knows how to play that kind of like, aw, shucks. I'm just, I don't. All I, all I know how to do is be good looking and it really seems to be working for him and he really seems like an ideal trader. Do you, I mean, were you shocked when, whenever you found out that he was a traitor, what, what was your.

[Rob C]

Reaction? I really was surprised and I want to give him credit because I think he's done a really good job so far because, because I did not think that he was playing the game like that. He seemed kind of like he didn't really care about anything. He was eating Oreos and looking for drinks and like Hitting the fridge constantly. He did not look to me as somebody who really was very focused on the game. So he. He's got a really good cover going on right.

[Mary]

Now. What are your thoughts on Michael Rapaport and is he playing poorly or.

[Rob C]

Well, Are you kidding me? Michael Rappaport playing a good game or what? Michael Rappaport has. Does. Does this guy know how to get screen time or what? Is Michael Rappaport not have. He's hijacked the whole show. I had said instantly from the time that he first started getting all worked up like, this is not a traitor. No traitor would act like this. And there were people. He was just so all over the place that I think people were like, oh, well, that obviously he's throwing names out. He must be a traitor. And I couldn't get any traction in people thinking, like, there's no traitor who would ever act like this. And so clearly, he is not a traitor. And I had floated this. I had said this to Lisa Richard. I said, lisa, you know him like these. That he's. These. This is how he is, right? She's like, no, no.

[Greta Teitelman]

No.

[Rob C]

He's. He's an actor. He's a very good actor. I said, lisa, is he a 247 method actor when the cameras aren't even on? Because this is how he is all the.

[Mary]

Time. This is how he is on his Instagram.

[Rob C]

Stories. Yeah, this is. This is Michael Rappaport all the time. So I did not feel like that he was a traitor, but I think that the traders really liked having him as a distraction, and I think that me talking him up as. As I thought he was a very bad faithful who needed to go home. But I think that they didn't like that. I was, you know, making some sense with.

[Sierra]

That. Who were you suspecting to be a traitor out of your.

[Rob C]

Castmates? So I had thought that, first off, I thought Dorinda was a traitor because I thought it made sense that they brought her back and maybe wanted her to be safe. And she was so calm last season. Remember when she got on the list for to be. To be murdered, and then she. They didn't save dinner for her, and she went after Bob the drag queen and went crazy. And then this time, she was marked for murder, and she was so calm. I thought, what. What gives? Since. Since when is Dorinda this Zen? And I thought that that was suspicious. I had also thought that Jam Jam was somebody who. I thought. I did not think that they would do a season with no gamers in the turret. People that were from the CBS reality shows. I thought that he was the person who would be most likely to be a.

[Nick]

Trader. Well, speaking of that, to your point, there are no gamers in the turret, and I am curious, you know what, how do you think that will play out? Because it's certainly an interesting choice by the.

[Justin]

Producers.

[Nick]

Yeah. And so far it seems to be working because I feel like a lot of the cast is, you know, like. Like Michael Rapaport said, it's got to be a housewife. It's. Or got to be a gamer. It's got to be one of them. And it's. It's not. It's certainly not a gamer. And everyone seems to be, like, hunting all the gamers to just find one of them, and it really seems to be tricking.

[Rob C]

Everybody. So while it did not personally benefit me, I think overall, for the health of the show and for the franchise, I think it was a smart decision to do a season where you don't have gamers in the turret, because even though I would tell Michael Rapaport, hey, look, maybe they have no people from Survivor or Big Brother in the turret this season, I didn't really believe it, but they did it this season. And so now for future seasons of the traitors that I died so that my future Survivor players can.

[Nick]

Live. Of course, Donna Kelsey, obviously, she came on the show with a lot of fanfare and excitement, and she was the secret trader, which, you know, it makes so much sense why they picked her, but it almost. It clearly backfired because, you know, was she giving herself away or was it simply based off the idea that she would make the perfect traitor because no one would, quote, unquote, suspect.

[Rob C]

Her?

[Nick]

Yeah. Or. Or have the guts to vote for her. So did the group get together and say, you know what? This is our best shot. It's the most common sense, you know, person. And. Or did. Or did Donna give herself away in any. In any.

[Rob C]

Way? Nick, can it be all the above? Because I feel like that Donna did not take to being a traitor in that way, which. Where I think that Don, as a faithful, I think she really could have made some relationships, but I. I don't get the sense that she really wanted to be a traitor. And then so she ends up getting the secret trader card, and so she's sort of, like, thrust into this role, and I think she was just very uncomfortable and free. She really only had close relationships with Ron Funches and Michael Rappaport, and so she was really having a hard time time fitting in. With the group. So she's already kind of disconnected, and I just don't know if she's a traitor at heart. And so I just felt like that people were able to assess that her energy was just very off. And also, what a great story to make Donna Kelsey one of the.

[Mary]

Traitors. I felt like it kind of isolated her even more to make her the secret trader, because if she was one of the traitors, she would have at least had some alliance, but no one knew, you know, so just like, no one was there to help her. She had. She had no support.

[Rob C]

System. Yeah, that's great.

[Nick]

Point. She kept saying she has fans of anyone. I was curious that anyone like Quizzer be like, oh, really? What season was I.

[Rob C]

On? Yeah, you know, like, yeah, she seemed like she was really into Big Brother. I feel.

[Nick]

Like. Back to Candace's big lie, I was. I'm always impressed with someone who can. Can just lie that quickly without any kind of thought, but she really seemed to put her foot in her mouth when she attacked Michael and made up that lie, which almost. Which seemed really silly because it's like, you don't think someone's gonna, like, notice that Michael didn't actually say that, but it really clearly affected Portia that more than it affected Candace. What was your awareness of that lie and how much speculation? Because from our point of view view, it didn't seem like Candace caught any heat from that lie. She quickly turned it. She quickly denied it. No one was like, wait, why? Are you sure? Are you sure she didn't say that? But, like, it was shocking that saying something and doing something that foolish didn't seem to in any way put a target on her.

[Rob C]

Back. So there's so much going on, and Michael Rappaport is saying so much, and that he. He did start off by saying, saying, hey, there's five fucking housewives, and it's got to be a traitor there. I'm not a math guy, but that's a traitor. So there was. There was that, and then he got misquoted of that. He said, put it in a housewife's grave. So I think that Candace was talking about all those, I think, as a trader. And Candace, I think, has been so fun to watch so far, but she's trying to, I think, hype up Michael Rapaport is a traitor. And so. So she was throwing a lot out there. And, you know, good on Porsche for trying to go back to the source and find out if he really said that. But in the moment in that room, it felt like that Michael Rapaport was lying more so than Candace had been caught in a.

[Nick]

Lie. Interesting, interesting. Who do you think are some of the stronger players from, you know, that you got to know? Obviously, we're speaking in the context of no spoilers or anything like that, but from when you look left, who did you think were some of the stronger players that you think could go the.

[Rob C]

Distance? So from my perspective leaving the Castle, Tiffany from Big Brother was somebody who I really felt very good with. I thought that she was somebody who was a great strategist on her season and somebody that I felt like that we were really starting to get somewhere. Monet is another person who is just super smart, has all of these different, different great relationships with people. And I felt like that Monet could figure things out. And I really had hit it off with Mark Ballas. And he's somebody who I think people were very unsuspecting of, but somebody who was a really big fan of these shows and was somebody who I.

[Nick]

Think people were sleeping on back to Michael Rapaport and Candace and I just had this thought as you were speaking, Wouldn't it make sense for the traitors to protect Michael because he is such a distraction and he's offering them so much cover. So if I'm a trader, he's getting all this attention. I would want to keep Michael around as long as possible, because as long as Michael keeps yapping and pointing fingers, he's just creating so much confusion that no one can really, to your point, focus on who really is a.

[Rob C]

Trader. To me, I just thought for the faithful, it was such a win, win to get rid of Michael Rappaport. If you think he's a traitor, fine, he's not. But he was holding us back. Back from having any sort of productive conversations. But the traders loved Michael Rapaport. They wanted to keep him in there because as long as Michael Rapaport was in the game, that the faithful are going to keep chasing their tails so that he has been really a secret traitor in his own way because he's helping the faithful from ever figuring out what they actually should be going.

[Nick]

For. Just a random question. What was the temperature there while you were filming? Because sometimes it looks like, you know, know, they should be freezing in the water. Sometimes you guys are dressed up quite.

[Rob C]

Warm. Such a good.

[Nick]

Question. What's. What is it? Johnny Weir, like, fell in the lake, and I was like, oh, my God, he's in hypothermia. And then he seemed.

[Rob C]

Fine. Nick, I'm sure one day you will be able to tell us what the weather is like in Scotland, but that it changes, like on a dime so that the sun could be out. Then the clouds come in, and then it's freezing. And also in the castle, sometimes there's room where it's just super hot and it's like, oh, my God, I'm like, sweating in here. So it is very hard to keep a consistent temperature at any point in the.

[Nick]

Traders. Okay, what are your predictions, Rob, going forward? Do you think it's going to be a Traders game, or do you think the faithful will.

[Rob C]

Overcome? You know, the faithful did get out a trader at the rounds, the last roundtable that we saw. But honestly, I feel like that Candace was the most effective trader hunter where I feel like that she was, from my perspective, at the roundtable where Donna almost went home leading the charge against Donna. And then finally, it's so funny to see a traitor really leading the discussion of, hey, let's get this other person out who she doesn't know for sure is the secret trader. I want to see if the faithful can counterpunch, because I think in this season, we have really, really smart and effective traders. Right now. I don't really see a hole with the traders, and sometimes you have a trader that's like, really the weak link. I don't see that so far with these three traders that they.

[Nick]

Picked. Yeah. And they're really working together. You know, for example, like, Candace didn't know that they killed you. And you could see a world where Candace could have taken that personally. She could have been like, why didn't you include me? You know.

[Rob C]

It'S. She was.

[Nick]

Happy. Yeah. Yeah. But like, good for them for, you know, working as a team because. And they. They seem to clearly learn that from last season where there was so much, much confrontation between the traders early.

[Rob C]

On. And Lisa Rinna has been such a revelation as a trader also, that this is a role that she was born for. And she's also been so fun in the.

[Nick]

Turret. Rob, can't thank you enough for taking the time. You got your own show as well that people enjoy listening to.

[Justin]

You. Can.

[Nick]

You. You plug your stuff before we let you.

[Rob C]

Go? Yeah. Thank you so much, Nick. And I'm talking about all these competition shows over on. Rob is a podcast. Podcasts rhap. Wherever you listen to.

[Nick]

Podcasts. All right, Rob C. We appreciate you. Sorry to see you go, man. But we'll be enjoying the rest of this season Traders along with you the rest of the.

[Rob C]

Way. Yeah. Thanks for having me. Appreciate.

[Justin]

It. Take.

[Sierra]

Care. The last episode when Rob and Maura. Hot Rob and Mora. Sorry. Not hot Rob. That's mean to.

[Amanda]

Him. He's the only Rob.

[Mary]

Left. Alabama.

[Justin]

Rob.

[Mary]

Rob.

[Nick]

Rob. It's not. It's not.

[Sierra]

Mean. You know, I wouldn't want to be on a show with somebody and then.

[Nick]

Be. I like to think that I can be either easy on the eyes. But if I were on this season with sexy Rob, I would. You know, the guy.

[Amanda]

Is. If it was you and Nick from Love.

[Sierra]

Island. Just because we know something to be true doesn't make it feel any better. If I was on a show with Sierra Miller and I was. And she was the hot Sierra. I can't take it personally, but I'm gonna take it kind of.

[Nick]

Personally. Some people are just so.

[Sierra]

Hot. I know, But I was gonna say, hey, one thing about him is hot is that I'm like. I didn't realize that his mind works. Worked so.

[Nick]

Strategically. See, now that sounds mean.

[Sierra]

Yeah. But I'm like, that's what I'm saying. I'm like, that's what's making him so much more attractive to.

[Nick]

Me. He ended. No. On Love island, he. You couldn't. You knew he was. You know, he was a sharp guy. He was.

[Justin]

Very. Jumping into pools and.

[Amanda]

Throwing. I didn't watch that season of Love island, so this is the first Rob I'm.

[Nick]

Getting. He's also funny. When he was like. And I haven't even made out with someone yet.

[Amanda]

Yeah. I thought he was very self aware of his, like, Persona, and he was going in there to, like, really be on Traitors. And the fact that he's a traitor.

[Sierra]

Is. I was gonna say Rob's like the. The Leo of Love island, because all we know is that everybody finds you palatable and hot. But, like, we didn't know anything else about him besides he hunts snakes. Like, this is the first time that I'm, like, seeing. Oh, the wheels turning, and I'm like a PR machine behind.

[Amanda]

Him. This is.

[Nick]

You. He also might be one of the most seemingly. I don't. I don't know Rob that well, but secure hot people. Because most real hot people aren't very secure because, like, their whole identity is wrapped up in their.

[Sierra]

Hotness.

[Amanda]

Right. But he also has.

[Nick]

Snakes. He also doesn't seem to, like, care about being.

[Sierra]

Hot. Not at all. I think it's just, like, an added bonus for him. He's like, I'd rather be in a marsh somewhere catching some snakes and amphibians and.

[Amanda]

Things.

[Nick]

Yeah. So anyway, but my point Is that the other.

[Sierra]

Rob? When Rob and Mora coupled up for the last challenge, the way that I want that to happen so badly, I don't.

[Mary]

Know. I felt like when she was like, you're gonna do everything. I'm not gonna do anything. You're gonna do that. I'm not gonna do this. He was kind of like, okay.

[Sierra]

It'S probably not his.

[Mary]

Type. You know, not a team.

[Justin]

Player. Sarah, you're on it. Because he was, like, grabbing her. They were hugging each other, holding hands. He, like, picked her.

[Sierra]

Up. I was like, oh, that's the challenge. He had his arm over her, and I was like, oh, my.

[Amanda]

God. He thought they were still on that.

[Rob C]

Villa.

[Nick]

Yeah. It was definitely, definitely a big L for New York instincts from Michael Rappaport. He really leaned on his street cred and was. He had me convinced that Jam Jam was a.

[Justin]

Traitor. Oh. Not that I wasn't convinced that Jam Jam was a traitor, but I was like, he has to be a traitor is where I was.

[Nick]

Going. No, but, like, yeah. Michael had just kept referring to his street instincts and way.

[Mary]

Off. I feel like they're not going to think he's a traitor, but they're just going to vote him off because they're like, we're tired of him yelling. Yelling all the time. So let's just vote him.

[Justin]

Out. I saw a tweet that said, Michael Rappaport is making me miss Danielle from last.

[Mary]

Season. And I was like, oh, yeah, I think he's funny. I think he's. I think he's good on television. I think he's. Yeah, but I. I just think they. Every time he's yelling, I always feel like. Like, Caroline Stansbury and Mara, they're all like, okay, stop talking about, yeah.

[Nick]

Mara and Caroline Stansbury just cannot. With.

[Mary]

Michael.

[Nick]

They're.

[Amanda]

They're. Caroline Stanbury not being able to fuck with him is.

[Justin]

Awesome. The queen of etiquette. Yeah. She's like, here we go.

[Nick]

Again. Like, queen of etiquette compared to a guy who has maybe no.

[Greta Teitelman]

Manners.

[Mary]

Yeah. I.

[Amanda]

Think. Here's my thing with Michael. I think he needs to be gone soon because I think he's a main.

[Greta Teitelman]

Here. No, no, no.

[Amanda]

No. Here's my theory. I think he's too present, and he's sucking too much attention onto him. They need to get him out so he can focus on the other characters, but he's gonna, like, create enough drama that it's gonna continue him. He's a Jen Shaw type. He's, like a big center of attention. We want the others to.

[Justin]

Shine. They. Yeah, they say when you're, like, the cartoon.

[Mary]

Character.

[Amanda]

Yeah. He's, like, getting all the screen time. I'm like, I want to see Caroline.

[Sierra]

Stanberry. I am kind of surprised that Lisa Rinna is flying under the radar, because I feel like Candace said from the. From the jump before she was a traitor or that she thought that, like, Lisa Rinna would have all of the makings to be a great traitor, which I also agree.

[Amanda]

With.

[Sierra]

Yeah. But yet nobody's suspected her as of.

[Mary]

Yet. And also, I mean, I guess, like, to Rob's point, that, like, he didn't find the chess playing that obvious, because Rob did that a lot. But I guess, like, thinking, like, combining Lisa Rinna was just part of the conga line, where they're like, yes, let's do it together. That would be so fun. Conga. Conga, conga. And then to have her then also Lisa sitting and playing and, like, the way that they were playing just felt sketchy, you.

[Nick]

Know? You were watching them play.

[Mary]

Chess. Tara wasn't.

[Sierra]

Tara. Well, that's what I thought. I thought she, like, has played chess once or twice before because it was like, you don't move like that. You don't move four pawns out. There's never gonna be an explanation.

[Mary]

To show somebody that the rules of.

[Nick]

Chess. Any of you guys know how to.

[Amanda]

Play?

[Nick]

Yeah.

[Justin]

Nope. So.

[Sierra]

Good. I play with.

[Justin]

Connor. I can.

[Amanda]

Play. Wait, you play.

[Greta Teitelman]

Chess? That's.

[Sierra]

Hot.

[Nick]

Thanks.

[Justin]

I'll. Marcia, we'll air it somewhere. Okay, let's.

[Mary]

Go. But it's like, it was like, that felt. Lisa Rinna is now tied into two separate, random things that.

[Justin]

Happen. So Lisa Rinna's always dancing on a table, doing something. Like when Candace said being extra pays off, it's.

[Sierra]

Like. And like, that's what I'm saying. The Personas of how people know them. But I'm just kind of like. I don't know if you know anything about her as, like, a housewife or anything. I would just be like.

[Justin]

You. Me.

[Sierra]

Too.

[Greta Teitelman]

Yeah.

[Nick]

Yeah. All right. Well, speaking of housewives, the Housewives of Beverly Hills are back on our TV screen. And I like them. I love them. I. Kathy Hilton lesson today. You know, it's why people like Kathy.

[Mary]

Hilton.

[Nick]

Yeah. And not me. You know, because I'm the guy who would be like, yeah. I don't know. Like, you know, and she's like, I love.

[Justin]

That. And she goes, that's.

[Nick]

Great. That's great. I'd have been like, you know, I don't know. I'm not sure.

[Sierra]

Sure. That's.

[Justin]

Great.

[Sierra]

Yeah. I would take a page out of Kathy Elton's book no matter what. Whether it comes to entertaining or. Yeah. How to not listen and not have to ask follow up.

[Nick]

Questions. Do you travel with decorative.

[Sierra]

Pillows? I do.

[Amanda]

Not. Oh my God. The way when she took out the pillows, that was the best thing I've ever seen. My mom loves to bring a pillow when she's going.

[Sierra]

Somewhere. It's like, I respect it, but.

[Amanda]

I was like, I'm never gonna do.

[Sierra]

It. One pillow. She pulled out two pillows and.

[Amanda]

She had like a whole bag just for the pillows that she was bringing to.

[Nick]

Sedona. The most insane thing I saw this episode was shipping your.

[Sierra]

Luggage.

[Nick]

Yeah. And I'm trying to figure this out because then they had this scene with Bose, who, like her glam team was there. So clearly the wives took a private plane to.

[Mary]

Sedona.

[Nick]

Yes. Makes sense. Why, like, okay, limit restrictions for how much luggage they could bring. But why didn't Rachel just have her team bring the rest of her luggage on the obvious commercial flight that I'm sure they.

[Amanda]

Took? Maybe there wasn't room and she would have had. Maybe they did. They do have a.

[Nick]

Limit. Like.

[Amanda]

You. I don't.

[Justin]

Know. The private planes have a big limit. Cuz in my head I'm like.

[Mary]

I feel like it was more like Rachel didn't want to have to push her 12 suitcases.

[Amanda]

Onto. Maybe she thought it was. Yeah, I agree with you. She probably thought it would be really chic to like show up and her luggage was waiting for her rather.

[Mary]

Than getting it off the.

[Justin]

Plane. Isn't it cheaper to ship it than it is to bring it on a plane Sometimes, like, depending on how many bags you.

[Nick]

Have. Just don't feel.

[Justin]

Like. I feel like I've heard.

[Mary]

That. I don't think she's ever to ever depend on the mail service for.

[Justin]

Like, for a travel.

[Sierra]

Arrival. And it's Rachel Zo. So I'm sure she has a lot of like, airline status that I'm like, she's not paying.

[Justin]

Extra. That's.

[Sierra]

True. To ship.

[Nick]

Anything. And if she is, I don't. I mean, I don't imagine she's budgeting for.

[Sierra]

That. No, she doesn't have to. But I'm just like, I thought one of the coolest things was just how she reacted to it. Because if that were me, I would be spiraling. If that was dorit, imagine the women would not be hearing the end of it. And she was just like, all right, here we.

[Amanda]

Go. Well, it. Well, she looked fat. That was the thing. She looked like. She was like in american horror story.

[Sierra]

Coven.

[Mary]

Yeah. I just changed my jewelry. It's like, you brought all of that jewelry just, like, in your.

[Sierra]

Purse.

[Mary]

Prioritization. All those necklaces. How are they not.

[Amanda]

Tangled? She had a big hat and sunglasses that I haven't seen look that good since, like.

[Mary]

2016. I do love that we're back to, like, hats, shaming clothes. You know, like, Rachel being like, Amanda is just wearing LV logos everywhere. And it is. It's like, that is peak.

[Greta Teitelman]

Housewives. But happy for her. Yeah.

[Sierra]

Yeah. No, it was. She loves.

[Amanda]

It. She loves.

[Justin]

It. But imagine if Rachel zo was on dorit season, like, four seasons ago when it was like, brand on brand on.

[Rob C]

Brand.

[Amanda]

Chanel. Chanel.

[Justin]

Chanel.

[Amanda]

Yeah.

[Sierra]

Yeah. But I'm gonna give dorit credit there, because I was like, you know, I. I would never. Because it was so loud, but I was like, there was something about just, like, the fashion choices that dorit makes that I'm like, you can't stand.

[Justin]

By. I think she's nailing. I'm just saying, like, she used to be the queen of. Of, like, here's my.

[Sierra]

Brand. And then Amanda was just very much giving. Like, I bought.

[Mary]

This. And them pointing out, obviously, now they're, like, gonna focus on it. But every time Amanda's like, oh, Yeah, I spent $10,000 on crystals one.

[Sierra]

Time. The one upping is.

[Amanda]

Wild. You know what that reminded me of? Like, what was her name? Sierra in the. The sunglasses.

[Mary]

$12,000. Oh, my.

[Sierra]

God. Was it Dana? Was it Dana.

[Amanda]

Wilkes? Dana.

[Nick]

Yes.

[Sierra]

Yeah. When she was like, I bought $25,000. She's from Beverly Hills. $25,000.

[Amanda]

Sunglasses. It was like, season.

[Sierra]

Two. And all of the women were like, why are. Why. Why would you buy.

[Justin]

25,000? And now she's infamous for the sunglasses.

[Amanda]

Right? 25. She kept just being like.

[Sierra]

$25,000. You want to try them.

[Amanda]

On? They're $25,000.

[Justin]

$5,000. They do dog on Amanda too much. I will say she's.

[Amanda]

New. I think she can, like, why.

[Justin]

Can'T she be the manifester and the scrappier person in the group, you.

[Sierra]

Know? Did anybody watch selling sunset in this.

[Amanda]

Room?

[Sierra]

No. Okay, well, does anybody remember Davina from selling.

[Justin]

Sunset? I know.

[Sierra]

Davina. Okay, so Davina, Amanda was actually on a season of selling sunset. She fired Divina because she didn't like where divina was pricing her house or whatever. And this whole exchange is quite, like, obnoxious. And you have the what's the blonde friend that was friends with Chrishell Mary. You have, like, Mary trying to facilitate this conversation. And Amanda's, like, reading Davina to filth, being, like, pretty much like, I just don't like how you're doing things. You're scaring me how much you're texting me whatnot. So then to see her talking about this how House yet again on a completely different series clearly did not sell, and it wasn't Davina's fault. But, yeah, I don't know. There's something about the way that her personality is coming in that I'm like, I'm not liking.

[Nick]

You. I love.

[Sierra]

Amanda. I know you.

[Amanda]

Do. I. I fuck with Amanda as well. I think she thinks she's serving more than she is, but I love.

[Sierra]

It. You know, I was like. When she was describing what an app does, I was like that. I'm. Yeah, that's.

[Nick]

Great. I wonder how long she actually talked for. They made it seem like five.

[Sierra]

Hours. Oh, well, I'm, like, explaining tech to these women. We might be here for a while. Explain waiting Tuck to me will be here for a.

[Justin]

While. She was proud of it. And then they were just like, eh, you.

[Nick]

Know? Well, I bet we have a rapid.

[Mary]

Recap. We do. If you missed the most recent episode of the Real Housewives of Beverly Hills, here is your rapid recap. Sutton got cheese for Jennifer Tilly. She's also drinking less and planning a girl's trip to Sedona to prove she's a better person now, mainly to Dorit, But Dorit is actually more focused on ruining PK's life at the moment. She tells Kyle PK is out for blood. Kyle says, weirdly enough, Mo told her the exact, exact opposite. This means PK must be lying. According to Dorit, Rachel Zoe is a proud boy mom at Leia. Kathy Hilton declares B Pollen is in for 2026. And then Kathy Hilton, Jennifer Tilly, and Sutton have dinner with new girl Amanda to see if she can hang. She can, but she gets a bit too comfortable psychoanalyzing Erika Jane too fast, and Sutton goes Reba mode on her. Also, Sutton's looking hot. Rachel Zoe understands that everyone is bringing their own vibe to Sedona, fashion wise, but also lifestyle wise. Rachel's vibe is, in fact, AHS Coven, and she's stuck in it. After FedExing her luggage, Kathy Hilton has brought her own pillows to the hotel in Sedona because she's an icon and a star. Sutton soft launches rebranding as Sutton Brown, Amanda explains her job. Kyle Says, I'm happy for you, or, sorry that happened. Erica hard launches. John Diva is cuffed. Everybody is happy for.

[Amanda]

Her.

[Nick]

Yeah. I was really endearing for.

[Mary]

Erica. I wonder if they're still together. Do we know they.

[Nick]

Are? Hern track. Yeah, it really. I mean, you know, it. It really made me think about how, like, you know, when someone goes through a divorce or just a really hard breakup, especially as we, you know, get older in life, how we, like, lower our expectations of love, you know, and just to have Erica say, like, you know, it's been a fun few months, you know, it's sad sometimes as, like, we get older in life and, like, you know, our hearts are broken, and we just kind of. We kind of give up on the possibility that we can meet someone later in life and be happy. And it's. You know, it was very heartwarming. And. And Erica is someone. I feel like she's always talked about feeling misunderstood and misrepresented. And, you know, many of us relate to that.

[Sierra]

Feeling. Well, she's currently not under fire, but the Internet is a blaze. Talking about how she's kind of. She said something in an interview talking about how she wants to keep the relationship private. And so then people are bringing up the fact of last reunion with Garcelle, how she called Garcelle boring because she just wasn't offering anything or sharing enough about her.

[Amanda]

Life.

[Greta Teitelman]

Yeah.

[Sierra]

Yeah. And so now people are mad at Erica being like, well, how can you have this relationship and you refuse to share it, and then you're not sharing.

[Mary]

All. I feel like she shared a lot in this most recent.

[Nick]

Episode. Yeah, well, there's a difference between. I mean, listen, they all can have an opinion of each other, but just because you don't want to share.

[Sierra]

One thing doesn't mean you're not sharing.

[Amanda]

Everything. I think it's hard with Beverly Hills because obviously the critique. Critique of it is that they're not actually sharing their real lives. But I watched Salt Lake City, and then I'm like, I could. Could you imagine if they were going that hard on each other, like, how traumatized all these women would.

[Sierra]

Be? I feel like they used to, but I'm like, that's what I'm saying is, like, I feel like people don't.

[Amanda]

Really get darker on Beverly Hills.

[Sierra]

Though. People don't really give grace for, like, what people have shared versus just like, maybe it's not this person's season or moment. I was like, Erica had her entire relationship with.

[Justin]

Tom.

[Sierra]

Yeah. And the. Everything that happened with the case after the fact. And Erica Jane as the performer going on tour with her. Like, I mean, she shares so many aspects of her life that I'm like, if she wants to date somebody, let her date track.

[Mary]

Exactly. It was also beautiful to see her sitting in front of her washer and dryer with her. Dyson plugged in behind her doing the laundry. That was real as f. So.

[Sierra]

Real. Asking the dogs who did.

[Amanda]

This. That's the real real house.

[Mary]

Dogs. All the lint in compartment. It was so.

[Sierra]

Real. And then we had Dorit showing up an hour and a half late for anything. I don't know. I just feel like it's anything whether it's a dinner. I mean, I couldn't imagine somebody chartering a private plane and showing up late or feeling comfortable. At that point. I'd been like, I have to deal with something with my kids commercial. I'll fly out and I'll meet you guys.

[Mary]

There. I think it's an hour and.

[Sierra]

A half is just for anything. Like, no one's holding your table. The Uber has left. Like, I'm just like, in what world do we think it's acceptable to be an hour and a half late to.

[Mary]

Anything?

[Nick]

Anything? What's. How much can you be late without any, like.

[Sierra]

Explanation? Because didn't she hold up a.

[Mary]

Reunion for a couple even 10 minutes? It's like, I'm like, I'm so sorry. I was caught in traffic and then this happened, you know, like 10 minutes. I feel like you deserve an.

[Sierra]

Explanation. I'm, like, watching the clock and I'm texting, being like, oh, my.

[Amanda]

God.

[Sierra]

Okay. But my ETA is 802. I am so.

[Nick]

Sorry. Like, I got Alex Baskin said to read just don't give a fuck this.

[Sierra]

Season. So, I mean, but you know what? I appreciate the energy because she is really bringing a different side to herself, and I'm really.

[Amanda]

Appreciating. Yeah, man, I love dirty. I do watch just, like, hours of Dorit walking around, not doing.

[Greta Teitelman]

Anything. Just being like.

[Mary]

Oh. Not Dorit being like, I didn't know anything about Shrek. Like, she didn't tell me or Kyle. And then Kyle's like, I knew about.

[Nick]

Him. I imagine now if you're flying private, you're like, hey, planes waiting for.

[Sierra]

Me. Oh, I feel like that is one of the most inconsiderate, especially if you didn't charter that flight. I think that's one of the most inconsiderate things you could do because you know that shit's expensive as fuck the.

[Mary]

Minute. But Gower, the guy Got that AC.

[Sierra]

Running. I would just.

[Nick]

Labor. It's not like an all inclusive. This is $30,000 or.

[Sierra]

Something. Keep going up. But yeah, I think to charter a jet, like, starting at 75,000. So I'm like, you're. You're really telling somebody who charted.

[Amanda]

It? It was Sutton, right? Sutton did.

[Sierra]

Allegedly. Yeah. Well, I mean, you know, Sutton may have the money to spare, but that's just not up to Dorit to act that.

[Amanda]

Way. I know, but it's kind of.

[Justin]

Like I would have left her.

[Mary]

Behind. See.

[Amanda]

You. And see you next Tuesday. In a good.

[Sierra]

Way. I was gonna say about the time when Kim was late for Adrien's private plane, but it's just like, yeah, that shit cost money, so it's very inconsiderate, and it's just wild behavior. I love Dorit to death, but that's probably my, like, biggest gripe if I were in her friend.

[Amanda]

Group. Here's what I love about Beverly Hills. Drama over an episode is like someone being late to the private.

[Sierra]

Plane.

[Amanda]

Yeah.

[Sierra]

Yeah. Very different from Salt Lake.

[Amanda]

City. Yeah, it's.

[Nick]

Great. Yeah, it's a.

[Amanda]

Nice. It's like a.

[Sierra]

Calmer. It's a palate.

[Amanda]

Cleanser. It's kind of like the.

[Sierra]

Guilty.

[Amanda]

Yeah. You know how there's some shows that just, like, wash over your brain warmly and might be what a lobotomy feels like? That's what Beverly Hills is to.

[Nick]

Me. Well, moving on. The Valley Persian style is.

[Amanda]

Enjoyable. I like.

[Nick]

It. It's really, really good. It's. It's such. Such a. Like a change of pace from the. The Valley. Well, I also, like. I love that there's, like, they. It feels more authentic. It feels like a real group of friends. There's a lot of common ground. And, like, it feels like there's like some. I don't know. Nothing really feels.

[Justin]

Forced.

[Sierra]

No. I think it's a lot of big personalities, but it's also, like, a bunch of people very comfortable either with themselves or their situations that, like, transparency. Not an issue.

[Nick]

Here. Like, I relate to the. The dynamic of, like, you got Reza, who's, like, looking out for Gigi, trying to play big brother, talking about, like, her credit and spending problem, and, like, obviously, who wants to be told how to spend money and lectured constantly. Like, I just, like. I eat that.

[Greta Teitelman]

Up.

[Sierra]

Yeah. I love that. Gigi admitted that her first paycheck was Shaws of Sunset. I was like, that's.

[Amanda]

Wild. I. I'm having a lot of fun. I never watched Shaws of Sunset. I know Reza from Like being on Humble Brag one time, loved.

[Greta Teitelman]

Him.

[Amanda]

Yeah. And so and MJ obviously just like culturally. No MJ from Traders. So I'm very excited to watch.

[Nick]

This. What do we know what happened with MJ and her husband and.

[Sierra]

Reza? It looked like when or I'm not sure if it's giving birth. I know she's sick in the hospital and they had like.

[Nick]

A. She was.

[Sierra]

Like. Like a tube and everything. There was like a falling out that happened because their relationships have always been kind of toxic going back and forth. But yeah, he's pissed because Tommy was left with picking up the pieces with MJ and he feels like Reza and Gigi were supposed to be like her brother and sister, no matter how toxic, whatever. And they felt like. He felt like he. They abandoned her in her time of.

[Nick]

Need. But you show up at his house and kill his.

[Sierra]

Plants. He apparently came to have an argument with Reza but Reza wasn't there. So that.

[Nick]

Was. So I'm just gonna like vandalize your property because you didn't show. I don't. I was confused by.

[Amanda]

That.

[Mary]

Yeah. We have a rapid recap of the first episode of the Valley Persian style. The Shahs have retired to the Valley. MJ's boobs are like weeds. They grow and they grow. Gol Neza has kids and is divorced and is broke. Reza is calm now that he's married this girl. Sky stole Gol Neza's ring and is now coming to her son's birthday party. She brought the ring, but Gol Neza is thinks it's all kinds of fucked up. MJ's husband Tommy hates Reza and MJ feels like she's caught in the middle. But she does serve in Talladega Nights inspired Fit. Sky and Tanin are besties who love each other almost as much as they hate sleeping in the same beds as their husbands. Sky is also anti moving to the Valley. Reza cracks down on golden as his finances. She spends 4k a month on weed, but that's mandatory. Also her dad has always bankrolled her. Reza wants her on a budget. At Persian Night, MJ tells Golden as that everyone was talking about her debt. As soon as she walks in to see door, this doesn't go well. Gonza ends up leaving. MJ blames.

[Sierra]

Herself. That was wild.

[Nick]

Talking. Everyone's talking about.

[Sierra]

You. Hello. She goes, can I get a drink first? Or what did she.

[Mary]

Say? She said, can I get kissed before I.

[Amanda]

Get. Everyone talks about how you're spending too much money on your poor and your kids are Going to like, yeah, don't be.

[Justin]

Mad. Don't be mad. I think she did the right thing. That's what I would do if, like, my friend walked in. I'd be like, they're all talking about you, by the.

[Amanda]

Way. No, but she only did it because she wanted to be like, I came to.

[Sierra]

Her. Bring it.

[Justin]

Up. M.J. brought it.

[Nick]

Up. But some of the most triggering things you can just say to someone. Don't get.

[Amanda]

Mad. Can we talk about your.

[Nick]

Finances? We need to.

[Mary]

Talk. Everybody thinks.

[Nick]

This. Everyone thinks.

[Sierra]

This. I think it's that too. The idea. It's not so much about like, oh, my. Or like, I was drunk one night, my behavior. It's like you're literally having a full sit down TED talk about my finances that none of you are a part.

[Justin]

Of. But also, would you rather walk in the room and act like everything's giddy and not know that they all just talked about.

[Mary]

You? Like, also asking MJ animals Reza for.

[Justin]

Help?

[Mary]

Yeah. You know, like, they are involved in her, like, house hunting and this, like, whole thing. It seems like Reza is, like, getting responses back from the people she's trying to rent from or lease from. And they're like, oh, yeah. Oh, wait, no, her credit's too bad. So it seems like they're very much in the middle of it to the point where, like, it would make sense for them to have a conversation, but not at. Not with the entire night. With the entire.

[Sierra]

Yeah. Like, we were like, hey, before Ganasa gets here and before we start this party, let's all sit down and discuss her finances. Don't be weird. She's walking in right now, out. And then also, you know something's up when you walk into a party of more than 10 people and everyone's silent when you walk.

[Greta Teitelman]

In.

[Mary]

Yeah. Like, yeah, I felt like I didn't need to see Jax and his. Him on a date. Like, they kept, like, showing us him and. And Natasha's friend, like, out in the playground and then it was like them, like, canoodling at the T. And I was like, I don't care about this man on a date right.

[Sierra]

Now. Like, this feels we're trying something. Yeah, we're trying to incorporate him because we don't know him. No, to be fair, I'm like, trying to give him some form of storyline because just retired Playboy, ain't.

[Nick]

It? Do you think she was into him or into the.

[Sierra]

Cameras? I.

[Mary]

Think. I mean, they seem like they'd been together for 10 years sitting at that table. Like, the way that they were, like, wrapped around each.

[Amanda]

Other. Sometimes people just do.

[Mary]

That. Sometimes they just love at first.

[Sierra]

Sight. He did say he was locked in, so, you know, you don't know what he was saying to her all night. By the end of it, there was like.

[Amanda]

Yes. I've never met someone like.

[Justin]

You. What about sky and her husband talking about, like, moving. When she said she moved out of the bedroom, that whole. Because that was.

[Mary]

Awkward. Reza is valid. And being like that is a precursor for divorce. Get back into the bedroom as soon as.

[Amanda]

Possible. I thought it was really funny that they were like, yeah, these girls are just always together, love hanging.

[Nick]

Out. The willingness to not respond is.

[Mary]

Impressive. I mean, that's also just like, I wouldn't have responded either. Like, I'm not gonna have a fight at a table with, like, all these people and these camera. You know, like, Sky's husband being like, her being like, answer it. Answer the.

[Justin]

Question. That's the part that I'm like.

[Mary]

Whoa, yeah, like, we can have this discussion at home, you know, like, this doesn't. We don't need to get into.

[Justin]

It. It's also kind of giving early, like, Valley. Like, the normal Valley show, where, like, I feel like that's where the.

[Mary]

Couples were, like Michelle and they would just silence each.

[Nick]

Other. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But to that point, with this being the first episode, it really didn't feel. You know, a lot of these shows that premiere that first episode, it feels like, kind of clunky, you know, a little forced. Other than Gigi forgetting her purse when she stormed off. That was kind of getting.

[Amanda]

Seen.

[Nick]

Yeah. It's like, oh, wait.

[Sierra]

You. I did.

[Mary]

Notice. You gotta come.

[Nick]

Back. You gotta come back for that. It felt. I felt like, yeah. Locked in. It felt like we were like.

[Amanda]

Really? You can tell that they've known, like, at least the core. Like, Reza, mjg.

[Sierra]

Even. All of them.

[Greta Teitelman]

Though. Yeah.

[Amanda]

Yeah. The other ones as.

[Sierra]

Well. That's how the cast works, is if they actually spend time with each other, that we're not filling in the blanks. Even Ganessa and Sky having that issue with the ring, it kind of brings us in because it's like, oh, they've had some long standing. It's been a couple months since you've given back the ring. But that it's like, we understand where. Where everybody stands with each other. It's not these, like, awkward strangers.

[Amanda]

Being like, hi, we're picking up with drama.

[Nick]

Already. I appreciate Sky. The. Sky's the.

[Sierra]

Jeweler. Sky's the.

[Nick]

Jeweler. Yeah. I appreciate her being like, yeah, I mean, sure, I can fix it, but I don't want.

[Sierra]

To. That was.

[Nick]

So. I.

[Mary]

Don'T. Yeah. Her being like, I don't do repairs. I make my own fine.

[Nick]

Jewelry. She's like, well, you better. You know how to do it. She was like, I know how to mow a lawn, but I still pay someone to do it for.

[Mary]

Me. Thank.

[Sierra]

You. I agree with that.

[Mary]

Too. And how did she see, as the ring's going on, that they're gold? She's like, she just painted this.

[Sierra]

Gold. It's like, what I was thinking. Also, Ganessa is just the queen of Shady Shady. Sometimes even very, very.

[Mary]

Mean.

[Sierra]

Yeah. Commentary. So I'm kind of like, coming for her. Business not great, but I'm like, she just had to sneak that in there because I didn't see anything wrong with it from the before and after. I was like, yeah. Are you saying that the gems are fake? Like, I don't understand what the issue.

[Amanda]

Is. It was just like, I'm gonna have a problem with you.

[Sierra]

Whatever. We'll move.

[Amanda]

On. But no, I'm gonna be pissed about it, but let's gab. I really like, like, Sky. I do.

[Justin]

Too.

[Amanda]

Yeah. I think she's great. And you know why I really with her, she's like, I'm not moving to the Valley. I'm going to be on the Valley Persian style. But I. You will not catch me in that zip.

[Mary]

Code.

[Amanda]

Literally. Which I think is.

[Mary]

Awesome.

[Amanda]

Challenges. Yeah. As someone who doesn't want to retire to the Valley, well, that will.

[Nick]

Do it for this episode. We're locked into the Valley Persian style. We'll keep talking about it as the season unfolds. Thank you to our guest, Greta Titleman and Rob C. From Traders. Do not forget to tune in tomorrow for an awesome going deeper with iconic celebrity stylist Chris Appleton. You are not going to want to miss that episode. A truly inspirational story. Fascinating story. It's. It's really amazing what he's done with his life and all the cool and fascinating people that he, you know, gives confidence to. Like, I mean, it's his. You know, he's got a new book coming out, and the way he talks about, you know, know, doing people's hair and just the power it brings. It's. I was really fascinated by the conversation. And you will be, too. Do not forget to check that out. That is tomorrow. We'll see you then. And the rest of the week, it's jam packed. Thanks for listening. Bye.