E1063 - Tiffany Haddish Goes Off, RHOSLC Reunion Part 1 Drama, RHOP and The Valley: Persian Style

Summary

The Viall Files E1063 Summary

Tiffany Haddish Goes Off, RHOSLC Reunion Part 1, RHOP and The Valley: Persian Style
Date: January 15, 2026
Host: Nick Viall, Natalie Joy, The Household
Special Guest Segment: Tiffany Haddish and friends (Sparkle, Selena, Shimona)

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Episode Overview

This Reality Recap edition features a lively breakdown of recent episodes from The Real Housewives of Salt Lake City (RHOSLC) Reunion Part 1, Real Housewives of Potomac (RHOP), and The Valley: Persian Style. Plus, a heartwarming and candid sit-down with Tiffany Haddish and her lifelong friends—now co-stars on Peacock’s “Tiffany Haddish Goes Off.” The conversation ranges from reality TV mess to deep dives into friendship, vulnerability, and the joys and pitfalls of sharing your life publicly.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Inside the “RHOSLC” Reunion Part 1 Drama

• Lisa Barlow v. Bronwyn:
  • The group debates whether Lisa is an instigator, with opinions split between those who think she's unfairly targeted and those who question her authenticity.
  • [03:09] C: “I think these women have spent far too much time coming after her and Meredith. And I'm just like, well, what's going on with you bitches?”
• Lisa’s Feuds & Fan Reactions:
  • Discussion of the infamous video and Lisa’s allegedly constant commentary on Todd and other cast members.
  • [04:01] E: “Lisa has been on Twitter in the TikTok comments on the show and talking to fans at BravoCon. Like, she cannot keep Todd out of her mouth.”
• Lisa & Meredith’s Friendship:
  • Despite their past conflicts (such as the hot mic season), their current loyalty is lauded.
  • [37:54] A: “A lot of people say they're loyal. Few people are. And those two are with each other. And I respect.”

2. Reality TV as a Relationship Test

• Effects of Show on Couples:
  • Discussion of Bronwyn and Todd’s separation and the toll of being public figures, including fan speculation and paparazzi moments.
  • [29:24] A: “I think this is the ugly side of reality TV… making guesses as to why, based off an edit we're seeing and people projecting.”
  • Reality TV magnifies existing issues and can both reveal and exacerbate problems.
• Monica Garcia’s Social Media Campaigning:
  • Panel feels Monica’s going too hard online post-firing.
  • [31:53] E: “She's campaigning overturn... I don't think this is the way to do it.”

3. RHOP: Colorado Girls’ Trip Gone Awry

• Outdoorsy Disasters:
  • The cast riffs on the logistics nightmare, lack of running water, and host Angel’s failure to “lean in” to the housewives drama.
  • [41:57] C: “They're going to talk about your family… everything. And Potomac is one of the shadiest of the seasons.”
  • [42:08] F: “That’s her greatest sin—not leaning in.”
• Giselle’s Power Move:
  • Giselle ensures better accommodations, subtly taking over the group and winning fans.

4. The Valley: Persian Style

• Sophia’s Role & Date Drama:
  • The group jokes about investment in secondary characters and whether new faces will stick.
  • [46:59] A: “Don’t show me an entire date about a person I haven’t been really invested in.”
• MJ & Tommy’s Relationship:
  • Panel expresses discomfort about the couple’s dynamic, foreshadowing their real-life split.
  • [49:30] C: “If we’re going out for date night, please don’t talk like this. Try to, like, woo me.”

5. On Friendship, Fame, and Vulnerability with Tiffany Haddish and Friends

A standout segment where Tiffany and her longtime friends Sparkle, Selena, and Shimona discuss:

• Origins of Their Friendship:
  • Honest, hilarious stories of how they met in school and supported one another through life's challenges.
  • [54:54] H (Tiffany): “I met Shimona in algebra class…she said, are you allowed to go to parties? I got a car. We going to this party. You want to go with her?”
• Dealing with Tiffany’s Rise to Fame:
  • Friends weren’t surprised by her success, citing her charisma and star quality.
  • [56:22] I: “Not a surprise at all. Not to me…so much character, so charming, so talented.”
• Keepin’ It Real:
  • Tiffany values honesty above “yes men,” which is why she’s kept this circle close.
  • [57:59] H: “It’s the yes men that get disappeared real quick.”
• The Show’s Purpose:
  • “Tiffany Haddish Goes Off” is about authentic friendship, adventure, and representing Black women in a safe, joyful space.
  • [64:53] H: “It's already enough as black women, we're already under attack at all times…if we can move as a group, as a unit, and feel safe together and have peace together…”
• Coping with Online Hate and Fame’s Pressures:
  • Tiffany admits she may have failed to warn friends about the downside of Internet trolls.
  • [69:37] H: “I might have did my friends a disservice because…they've been with me the whole time... Maybe I should have been like, okay, so this is how I deal with it. But I feel like they gave me all the tools.”
  • Authentic support for each other off-line is essential.
• Vulnerability Around Loss and Miscarriage:
  • Tiffany opens up about her repeated miscarriages, emphasizing self-talk, humor, and the pain during those times.
  • [77:24] H: “Every time I lost the baby, it felt like a piece of my soul died, right? Pit felt like ripping…”
  • Her friends often didn’t know about her pain at the time; she explains why she kept it private.
• Radical Self-Love: The ‘Marrying Myself’ Ceremony:
  • Tiffany discusses the symbolism of marrying herself: commitment to knowing her own needs, providing herself happiness, and modeling what she expects in a partner.
  • [85:44] H: "That represented actually…making a commitment in front of my friends…to treat me with the respect and dignity that I would like for a man to treat me with."
• Signature Quotes:
  • On internet trolls:
    [73:50] H: “That’s where the devil lives, is on the internet. The devil live online, mostly Twitter.”
  • On taking care of herself:
    [88:59] H: “If you’ve been in that body for over 40 years, you should know what brings you joy…Give yourself some joy so then they know how to give you joy.”

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• [03:13] C: “I don’t support everything that she does…but I think these women have spent far too much time coming after her and Meredith.”
• [57:58] H (Tiffany): “It’s the yes men that get disappeared real quick.”
• [64:53] H (Tiffany): “If we can move as a group, as a unit, and feel safe together...”
• [73:50] H (Tiffany): “That's where the devil lives, is on the internet. The devil live online, mostly Twitter.”
• [77:24] H (Tiffany): “Every time I lost the baby, it felt like a piece of my soul died...”
• [85:44] H (Tiffany): “That represented actually…making a commitment in front of my friends…to treat me with the respect and dignity that I would like for a man to treat me with.”
• [88:59] H (Tiffany): “Give yourself some joy so then they know how to give you joy.”

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• [02:21] Introduction of Tiffany Haddish segment
• [03:09] Lisa Barlow and the RHOSLC reunion fallout begins
• [29:24] Discussion on reality TV’s effect on relationships (Todd & Bronwyn)
• [41:57] RHOP Colorado trip and shade analysis
• [53:17] Tiffany Haddish & friends interview begins
• [64:53] On the purpose and message of “Tiffany Haddish Goes Off”
• [69:37] Navigating internet hate and fame—Tiffany’s approach
• [77:24] Tiffany discusses miscarriage and loss
• [85:44] Tiffany’s ‘marrying herself’ ceremony
• [92:17] Show wrap up and encouragement to watch “Tiffany Haddish Goes Off”

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Tone & Style

• High energy, witty, irreverent, loving pop culture and blending sincere vulnerability with comic timing.
• Tiffany Haddish and her friends especially embody the importance of honest friendship, directness, and keeping it real—balancing humor with depth.

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Takeaways for Listeners

• Reality TV continues to blur lines between entertainment and real-life relationships, and the cast’s self-awareness adds layers to our understanding of these shows.
• Tiffany Haddish’s journey and her friends’ loyalty highlight the value of long-term friendship, real support, and finding joy and peace amidst fame’s unpredictable ride.
• “Tiffany Haddish Goes Off” showcases a different, much-needed kind of reality TV: one emphasizing Black female friendship, healing, and growth, rather than just drama.

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Final Recommendation

Catch Tiffany Haddish Goes Off on Peacock for a feel-good, authentic friendship adventure, and stay tuned for upcoming deep dives with Housewife favorites and pop culture luminaries on The Viall Files.

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Transcript

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Mary, you wearing my pants?

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It is actually crazy how you can identify an article of clothing you once owned.

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Well, these are. These are like cropped brown dickies pants that somehow fit both Nick Vile and me.

[C]

The sisterhood of the traveling Dickies.

[A]

They were way too tight and way too short on me. And they were like. They were too short but already meant to be. Like the. The.

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Every time we clean out Nick's closet, we're like, it's a sisterhood.

[C]

It is a sisterhood.

[E]

Every time we clean out your closet, we're like, let's bring it up to the studio. Yeah.

[D]

Oh, there's some. There's a couple items of clothing.

[A]

You wanna get clothing in my closet?

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There's a couple of gyms in there. This is kind of cool.

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This is kind of.

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You're spraying your pants. It's kind of hot.

[E]

You're crazy.

[A]

What's going on, everybody? Welcome back to another electric episode of the Vile Files Rally recap edition. I'm your host, Nick, joined by the household and my bodacious. You like that word?

[E]

I feel like I'm just part of the household.

[A]

But you're like the matriarch.

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Hey, matriarch.

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Your mama. Your mother.

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Mother.

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Mother.

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Angie K. Mother.

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Angie K. Mother.

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We have an electric awesome episode lined up for you today. The one and only Susie Evans. Hello.

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Glad to be here.

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She's back.

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I'm back.

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Also later this episode, we have Tiffany Haddish and some of her closest friends, Sharmona, Selena and Sparkle. They are all part of the cast of Tiffany Hadish Goes Off Now. Streaming on Peacock. It's an absolutely fun, wonderful show. In this interview with Tiffany and her friends was an absolute blast. We had so much fun laughing and I can't wait for you all to listen to it. That is later this episode of the Salt Lake City reunion.

[F]

Oh, so good.

[A]

Lisa are brown. No, her voice.

[E]

Lisa is on one. I don't know.

[C]

Sometimes I feel like she's. I'm kind of the biggest Bronwyn fan and I was. But she kind of lost me during this season and.

[E]

No, no. After seeing that video. The fan took your team Lisa.

[C]

Well, I'm like, I don't support everything that she does. But I'm like, I don't know. I think these women have spent far too much time coming after her and Meredith. And I'm just like, well, what's going on with you bitches?

[B]

The Lux marketing thing. We knew what we were saying. That's so Jen Shaw.

[C]

Jen Shaw related. So similar to Shady.

[A]

Yeah, listen, the. The video bad luck for release for sure. Do I think any of these women haven't talked some shit some fans about the other ladies?

[E]

No, but Bronwyn is right about, like, they sat down. They had a pact. They were like, you don't talk about my husband. I won't talk about your husband. Don't talk about my kids. Shook on it, hugged on it, whatever. And then Bronwyn hasn't.

[B]

We.

[E]

We have not seen Bronwyn doing any. Lisa has been on Twitter in the TikTok comments on the show and talking to fans at Bravo Con. Like, she cannot keep Todd out of her mouth.

[D]

But you know what? For some reason when she does it, I'm like, okay, pass.

[F]

Oh, I can't.

[H]

I can't.

[E]

I don't know what it is. I don't know what it is.

[D]

And like, I'm not normally team Lisa like this, but she. Something happened in my brain.

[C]

I think she gives storylines. I'm sorry. Secret lives of Mormon wives.

[A]

She's misunderstood.

[C]

That's what I'm saying. She's like, keeping the stories going that it's like, okay, let' pick up cameras.

[D]

I just, like, I think what happened is there was a moment when in Greece where she kind of broke down. And I do feel like I saw Lisa Barlow. I understand you.

[E]

I understand it.

[C]

I'm sorry. This is so gross. I was just like, that's a real friend right there.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Sorry.

[A]

I just.

[D]

I love her.

[A]

Well, we also got the Valley Persian style episode two to talk about Potomac. The ladies are in Colorado. That is quite the Trip.

[C]

It's the longest trip.

[F]

It is the longest trip. How long are they there for?

[C]

I don't know.

[E]

Is the, like, altitude that bad? Yeah. I mean, I feel like I've been to Denver and I was like, you're outdoorsy.

[F]

I feel like that outdoorsy. I feel like that cuts right. Like, you're from the country, right?

[E]

I mean, yeah, but I don't consider myself, like, out.

[F]

So you're not fishing?

[C]

She's not camping more.

[E]

I feel like if you're outdoors, you should go outside. I'll take my daughter to the park.

[C]

How do you. How do you feel about camping without a lack of running water?

[E]

Don't do that.

[A]

I don't.

[C]

So that's the difference between outdoorsy and not.

[F]

I would have thought you'd be outdoorsy.

[E]

My God, no. Maybe it's like, you weren't going, like.

[F]

Childhood hunting in Georgia.

[E]

I did. I definitely did as a child. Like, I live in California. I know roots, though. If I go, I guess you can do it.

[A]

But she's not one to let the humidity be her shower.

[F]

No, but, like. But you can't take the country out the girl.

[E]

That's exactly what I was going to say.

[F]

You sitting here saying, like, but I've been to. I'm like, yeah, you're outdoorsy. Like, it doesn't affect you.

[E]

But when I went to Denver, I wasn't, like, hiking and doing things that outdoorsy people do. My brother was doing, like, a strongman competition, and I was sitting in the sideline. Even that.

[F]

That can get people, like, altitude sickness. I'm not kidding. Like, you're built different.

[C]

I'm sorry.

[D]

Denver's also. Denver's also different than, like, the south, though, because then Colorado is not the South.

[F]

No, totally.

[C]

That's true.

[F]

But it's mountain time builds like a callus in you that appl elsewhere.

[E]

If you say so.

[A]

I don't know.

[H]

I feel like.

[A]

I feel like if you walk briskly, you might be slightly more tired.

[H]

Okay.

[D]

Like, in the south, there's too much air, and in Denver, there's not enough. Well, all that humidity. Well, I guess that's not air. That's famously.

[A]

God, I could do without all air.

[D]

It's too thick in the south, and it's too thin in Colorado.

[B]

Sea level.

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Above sea level. I have a point.

[A]

Well, if you guys haven't had a chance to check out the Going deeper for this week, Chris Appleton was our guest. Is our guest. And what a. Just a delightful, beautiful episode.

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Handsome, beautiful man.

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Yeah, beautiful man.

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Beautiful man. Handsome episode.

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I was really taken back by his kindness and eyes.

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Right?

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Yeah.

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Yes.

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He sounds his heart.

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It really. It's an inspiration. If you're looking for inspiration in this world, which I know many people are, if you feel like there's more in this world for you and you just haven't really accomplished maybe your dreams, I encourage you to listen to that episode. It's really quite inspiring. We appreciate Chris taking the time.

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Celebrity hairstylist.

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Like, literally the biggest names ever.

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Yeah. He did J. Lo's hair for the Golden Globes.

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Yeah.

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This week.

[F]

Is that why he was in town?

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Yep.

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Yep. And also the green dress.

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Yes. The iconic green dress that is like.

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Christina Aguilera.

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Ora Kris Jenner.

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Yeah.

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The list goes on and on and on, and I encourage you guys to check it out. Also, we had Rob C. On Tuesday, this episode of Rally Recap. And Greta Titleman, if you haven't checked that out. If you want to get into all things Traders, also don't forget the Vile Files plus is rocking and rolling. And also now ad free. So if you want to hear some ad free episodes of all the Voles episodes, it is available now. Plus, get all your favorite updates from your Ask Nick episodes, your reality recap, deep dives, where we really get into the nitty gritty of that video of Lisa at BravoCon and so much more. Plus your pop culture roundup, where we get into all things pop culture. We also have some new and exciting things coming your way soon for Vile Files plus, so be sure to check it out. It's free to sign up. Just go to vilefiles.com to do so and you will be glad that you did, period.

[E]

We had us a bougie night last night.

[C]

I love a bougie night. What did you do?

[E]

Oh, my God. Crystal Minkoff invited us.

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You know when they always say, like, you never want to be the smartest.

[B]

Person in a room?

[F]

Absolutely.

[C]

Yeah.

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We were definitely the least coolest people in this room, which was cool.

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Yeah.

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It gives you something to aspire to.

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I would rather be the least coolest than the least smartest.

[C]

For sure.

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Yeah.

[A]

I want to be at a table where I'm like, guys, you girls. I'm really carrying this dinner.

[E]

No, literally, Crystal texted us. It was like having a dinner this Tuesday night. Hope you guys can make it. We're like, yeah, sure. We'll be in town. We'll be there. She's like, great. It'll be me, my husband Rob, which.

[A]

Is already a win.

[E]

A win. Yeah.

[C]

Iconic.

[A]

Every time we have dinner with Krystal and Rob. We always get a fascinating insider scoop about all things Disney animation, which is, for me, super fun.

[C]

That might be the one thing. I'm actually so jealous of you because I'm a huge dishes fan, and I'm.

[E]

Always like, rob, talk to me about the movies I should be showing River. And he's like, I remember I asked him the first time we ever met, and he was like, dumbo, show her Dumbo. And we were like, done.

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Easy.

[E]

We can do that. Anyways, Heather Dubrow and Terry Dubrow. Wow.

[B]

Of course.

[A]

And, like, not that we didn't know this, but just in person, she's so legit. She is the epitome of fancy pants. Yeah. But housewife.

[E]

She is so fancy and elegant.

[C]

Ella.

[E]

Classy. Just. Oh, my God. And Zooey Deschanel and her. Her husband Jonathan. Jonathan. Property brothers who caught a stray at the Golden Globes.

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Incest.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Oh. But he embraced it. I asked him about us, so I'm like, do. Do we. Did we love being a part of Golden Globes history. And he actually showed me a video him and Drew did that day. Kind of leaning in, so to speak. So they are. They have nothing if not comedy professionals.

[E]

So last year, Krystal threw this party, it was around Christmas time, where I met Tamara Judge for the first time. And it was like this big thing. She partners with Toccori, the, like, jewelry brand. We all got a necklace. It was like, very, very bougie. So she's like, I just wanted. She, like, stands up. First of all, I could have sworn this dinner was at 7:30. And I looked at that text maybe seven times and read 7:30. And then she texted us at 7:15 and was like, we're in the back. And I was like, okay, we'll be there soon.

[A]

Nothing drives me more nuts than being late without giving, like, a heads up, a heads up.

[E]

And then I looked at it again, and it did, in fact, say seven.

[A]

And we had a doctor's appointment in that part of town. And then, like, to go back to the Valley at that time of day, Nightmare. So we were just sitting in a car watching episodes of Potomac, literally. And I'm like, are you sure it's 7:30? She's like, yes.

[C]

What time was your doctor's appointment?

[E]

It was like 3:30.

[C]

There you go. I was like, you mixed up the doctor's appointment 30. And was like, you dropped it down. You carried it over.

[E]

I literally was like, you could kill me. And I would tell you at 7:30. And like, I swear it is 7:30. And then as soon as I looked at, I'm like, I got a text.

[A]

And it was like, we're in back. And I'm like, that sounds like they think we're late.

[C]

Yeah.

[E]

Not like, hey, we're 15 minutes early and grab the table.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Now, can you imagine if you were watching Beverly Hills or OC While they're waiting for you?

[H]

Wow.

[B]

So at least it wasn't that.

[E]

That's true. Because we didn't go back home, which I had this beautiful black dress and my size too big YSL heels that I had to invest in. I was like, I'll be wearing that. I had to wear jeans. Oh, we love casual chic.

[C]

Yes, we love casual.

[E]

Super chic. With Heather Dubrow. Fancy pants. Heather Dubrow. So anyways, I walk in, we're late, I'm underdressed, and it's these fancy, beautiful people. And Crystal gave the sweetest speech and she was like, and now, because I love you all so much, I wanted to give you. And Rob opens this case and it's just full of diamond rings. And she's like, I wanted to give you diamond rings.

[F]

I want to go.

[A]

Even I didn't get diamonds. But Crystal is truly one of the best people I've met since moving to la.

[E]

She is such a, like, bring in people, you know? And I was. We're like, walking. She's like, let's leave the boys. She was like, we're doing girls on this side, boys on this side. Let's leave them. Let's go look at these diamonds in the back. We, like, go sit in the back at a secluded table with all these, like, flashlights on these diamonds.

[A]

And because we showed up late and the boys were on the left and the women were on the right, I literally sat between Jonathan and Zoe and I. I wanted to be like, we can switch. But I just. They didn't offer. And I was like, no, I'm just gonna.

[D]

Yeah, embrace.

[E]

We're doing boys on that side and girls on this side. And so we go back to, like, look at all these diamonds. And it's like chunky, big diamond rings. It's little thin, it's rubies, it's emeralds. It's just every type of eternity band, wedding band type of ring you could think of. They're there. And so I'm looking and I'm like, maybe I'll do this one. And Heather's like, absolutely not, Natalie. You're gonna do this one. And it was like the biggest chunkiest ring. And I was like, okay, I'll do that one.

[A]

And when Heather says you're gonna do.

[E]

Something, you do it.

[F]

You do it.

[E]

You do it. And then she said she's also gonna do that. An eternity. Because when you wave, you wanna see the diamonds on the bottom.

[C]

Absolutely.

[F]

I'm obsessed.

[E]

Yes, of course. Heather debauch. I will be doing it in eternity, thank you very much.

[A]

Because when I wave, why Bravo hasn't launched an etiquette class with Heather Dubrow.

[D]

Charm school.

[A]

Charm school. Where Heather takes some of the lessons. Charming.

[E]

Yeah.

[A]

Housewives in Bravo.

[H]

Yeah.

[A]

Charm school.

[E]

Yeah.

[D]

Heather Dubrow.

[A]

You're welcome. Bravo. Randy Glass Baskin.

[F]

That's a good one.

[C]

Is it solely females? Because, like, what about Jax Taylor?

[E]

Yeah, I feel like we could definitely do men in there too.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Because, like, Terry could come and Terry maybe one of my favorite guys I've ever met in a while.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah.

[E]

He had a. A fan from Tick Tock. I love you.

[A]

Some guy.

[E]

Did you know Terry's always on the.

[C]

Always.

[E]

He was like, yeah, he had a little fan come up and say hi to him.

[D]

Wait, Justin, didn't you guys meet Terry at BravoCon?

[B]

Oh, Leah did, because we were in the back press room and Leia was spilling coffee all over the table and herself and she was standing in a puddle of liquid. And Terry comes up to, like, be like, don't worry about it. Like, nobody saw it. No, we're all good. And I walk up being like, why is she talking to Terry? And she had no idea who he was. And we just had like a natural conversation for like a good 10 to 20 minutes. And he was just a real down to earth person.

[A]

Yeah. I want to feel like Terry and I are friends and this is the beginning of a budding relationship. I hope he's thinking about me.

[C]

Did you exchange numbers? Instagram handles?

[F]

I wanted to ask, but it's better that you.

[H]

You didn't.

[A]

But I will be DMing him today.

[H]

Absolutely.

[C]

You should get a day.

[E]

Great.

[C]

Do you have a draft formulated?

[F]

Yeah.

[C]

Do you know, like, what your approach is?

[E]

I've heard about it all night.

[D]

And if he doesn't respond, it's just. Sorry. One of my producers sent this.

[F]

Yeah, this is Nick's assist.

[E]

And then as we're sitting at dinner, we had picked out our diamonds. We, you know, shout out to Corey, got our whatever, go back to the table. It's like surf and turf. It's steaks, it's cocktails, everything you can think of. Caviar.

[A]

Did you eat Anything on this seafood tower?

[E]

A caviar cone. Like an ice cream cone? Caviar cone. Anyway, so we're sitting there, and here comes Hugh Laurie stuck to your house.

[H]

Yeah.

[E]

Dr. House.

[A]

Because him and Rob are best friends.

[E]

Because him and Rob are best friends. He was the dad in Stuart Little.

[C]

Oh, yeah.

[D]

He was the dad in Stuart Little.

[H]

I love Stuart Little.

[A]

Rob told us a really fascinating story when it came to casting for the dad of Stuart Little.

[D]

I thought you were gonna say casting the mouse.

[B]

Sorry.

[A]

Well, they were looking for the dad.

[C]

They couldn't.

[A]

You know, they couldn't. You know, they were. Couldn't land on a dad. And. And Rob came up with the idea of Hugh, and they're like, well, can Hugh do an American accent? He's like, I don't know. So he called up Hugh.

[D]

This was pre House.

[A]

This is pre House.

[D]

Yes, of course.

[A]

And he called up Hugh. He's like, hey, listen, this is really random, but can you do an American accent? And he was like, I don't know. I probably could learn. And Rob's like, I kind of need to know. Like, now the mouse is American if you can do it.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

And basically, Rob was just like, we're just gonna fake it till you make it.

[E]

Got him a dialect coach.

[H]

Nice.

[A]

So basically what I heard was, Rob Minkoff is responsible for Hugh becoming House.

[H]

Wow.

[E]

Because that American accent was so good.

[A]

So good.

[D]

Because of that, if there was no Little mouse boys doing, and if I.

[A]

Could be honest, and as I said at the table, I learned tonight that he was British.

[D]

You did it.

[E]

As did I, actually, but it was Stephen.

[C]

Funny, right?

[F]

Now, Fry and Laurie, you want to know?

[A]

First time I didn't know. Heard about Hugh was for House. And he had this, like, very believable American accent.

[B]

Yeah.

[E]

You want to know what else we learned last night?

[H]

Come on.

[E]

Feel the noise.

[A]

Dumb. You know that song? Do you know whose brother that is? Terry Dubrow.

[E]

Terry Dubrow's brother wrote that song.

[H]

What?

[C]

Like, I did know this. Wait.

[A]

Yeah, right. Mind blowing.

[D]

Wait, wait, what band is that? That's. Come on. The.

[C]

It's just.

[A]

I don't know, one of the, like.

[E]

Most famous, like, any rock band right.

[C]

In front of you.

[A]

You know, back in the day where they used to have CDs, and it was like, Greatest Twist.

[D]

No, I don't need a computer. Twisted Sister, baby.

[E]

Oh, sorry.

[A]

Yeah. Like, anytime you have one of those, like, greatest rock hits of all time, that song is on it.

[B]

Wow.

[C]

You just reminded me of those, like, I know the younger ones. Won't know. But, like, back in the day, after, like, what, 11pm There was this, like, infomercials that would be like, here's the greatest hit. And, like, that's what that was. Reminded me. Wait, never mind.

[D]

It's not Twisted Sister.

[C]

It's Quiet Riot. Yeah, it's quiet, right? Cut that, cut that.

[F]

Oh, my God, save her.

[E]

She was not so confident.

[A]

It came up, and everyone's like, can you sing? Can you sing? Zoe, except has a song on the top 40 charts spot in the world right now.

[H]

Wow.

[A]

That she wrote years ago. And then Terry's like, yeah, I can't sing. It's the one talent I don't have. But, like, my brother can. And I'm like, oh, that's cool. You have a brother who can sing. And then he was like, yeah, he sang this song. And I was like, huh.

[E]

So casual, crazy.

[A]

And I was like, I'm a loser.

[C]

Oh, do you know what?

[D]

My computer science teacher in the sixth grade's brother was the lead singer of Boston.

[C]

Oh, wow.

[D]

And I was like, whoa. Because in sixth grade, Boston was my favorite band. And I was like, this is the coolest thing.

[A]

My uncle, who by marriage, my. This is the coolest thing I got. Not that cool. Was in a band called Firetown, whose bass drummer was named Butch Davis, who was the producer for Nirvana. Nevermind.

[C]

That's sick.

[A]

Also, he was in the band the Garage. Garage.

[E]

Garage.

[A]

Garage. No, garbage.

[H]

Garbage.

[A]

Yeah. Butch Davis. My uncle was, like, college buddies with them, and they had a band together, and he was on mtv background in the day.

[G]

Wow.

[A]

Not as cool as being brothers with the guy.

[C]

Just gonna say I was a fan of the Spice Girls.

[E]

Yeah.

[D]

Hey, guess what?

[E]

Love those divas down.

[F]

Yeah.

[B]

You know what, Nick, Natalie, there's a reason you guys were in the room. They always say that, like, no matter if you're the. Like, the one person that doesn't fit, you're in that room. Yeah. And there's a reason.

[E]

No. Crystal is just truly just, like, one of the best people. Her and Rob, I mean, are just the best people that you'll ever meet. I'm like, what? We're walking back to look at these diamonds? And I'm like, I'm so underdressed. Like, this is what was going on. She's like, you look beautif beautiful. You look amazing. What are you talking about? Like, it's great. Come on, we're looking at diamonds. I'm like, such a good person. Just like. She's just so great.

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[B]

Sierra Yes, Nene Leakes is back.

[C]

Allegedly.

[B]

According to that road trip.

[C]

I cannot wait for this. If it's Vicki Gonvalson and Nene Leakes on a van, in a car, in an RV together, it's going to be wild.

[B]

I think this is big news like Nini coming back to Bravo in general just because we know the history of like her lawsuits and not being able to return.

[C]

As I said, I kind of love it that I'm like, it's giving like Bravo giving second chances especially to people that you didn't think that they would let on. But it's like the people, the people want that, you know, we've been asking for Nini. We want Vicky back. And so I'm just like, hey, problematic behavior.

[H]

Hopefully they.

[C]

We'll see if it's changed.

[F]

You know, this will be my first one tuning in.

[A]

What?

[F]

Like, how do they. How do they pick? They just pick the messiest or most iconic.

[B]

It's All Stars this specific season. So it's 20 years of Housewives. So this is where they're bringing back, like, the OGs.

[E]

Yeah.

[B]

Versus usually it's just like the most iconic personalities putting. Put them on a church.

[D]

I would love if there was a moment of candy and Kim Zoltiak on a bus.

[C]

I don't know if we're gonna get.

[E]

Maybe Kim throw back to that.

[D]

Bring back Kim Zoltiak.

[E]

Was Kim OG Atlanta.

[H]

Yes.

[E]

Yeah, she was.

[H]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[D]

Tardy for the party.

[C]

The good old days.

[H]

I love that girl.

[B]

I feel like Kim's eventually gonna come back. I just think she needs her space.

[C]

Well, I mean, she's made appearances on Next Gen and watching Live. She was at Bravicon, so I'm like. I feel like I really.

[B]

Yeah, she did the stage where it was daughters and moms.

[C]

When you bring somebody back like that, that hasn't been on for a while, I just feel like that's just the Easter egg that the network is going to use them in one way or another.

[B]

Like, we don't need a hard launcher right this second. Yeah.

[D]

I just. The world. The world is a worse place without Kim Zolciak in, like, a Porsche convertible and a full glass of wine and a cigarette. And a cigarette in the driver's seat.

[C]

Wig flying in the wind. Yeah.

[E]

Speaking of housewives, Todd, Bradley Bronwyn's currently separated.

[A]

Yeah. Currently separated. That gives hope.

[D]

Yeah.

[F]

I didn't know that we wanted.

[E]

I don't think he was spotted with a mystery woman.

[A]

Well, I think we need to come up with a T shirt that says, this is not a date.

[C]

This is my co worker. That's fair.

[F]

Or like a reserved card that you.

[D]

Put on the table.

[A]

I mean, do we have a picture of somebody?

[C]

We do.

[F]

Can I?

[C]

And it's like, oh, let me see.

[E]

They're sitting at the bar. I feel like if it was a work dinner, they would be maybe like, at a table. I don't know.

[A]

Yeah, but that doesn't give.

[E]

Her face is blurred out.

[A]

I don't know.

[F]

I hope it is. I'm like. I feel like I hope that that is a date.

[A]

You do?

[D]

Yeah.

[E]

You do.

[F]

They're separated.

[C]

He's Allowed.

[E]

I.

[F]

And honestly, like, I think it helps you get over. And I don't want them to get back together. I just don't. I don't think that he's good for her. I don't like the vibe.

[H]

I don't think that he's good for you. Yeah.

[A]

Listen, I feel like justice for Todd, really.

[D]

I think justice for Todd, too. But I also love the idea of, like, single Bronwyn Eren next season.

[A]

I mean, like, I don't know, because I think, again, we've talked about this at length, but we know a handful of people who actually know Bronwyn and Todd have hung out with him like, off camera in real life. They have nothing but good things to say. And clearly this, like, I think we can safely confirm that Todd reluctantly agreed to support his wife going on this show, you know, and now this guy is like, wherever he goes, he's having, like, random strangers taking these pictures of him, like, making these grand assumptions about his intentions. That could be literally anything. Yeah, he may not even know this person. Some. That could have been a fan who came up to him and was just like, nice and asked him some questions and he was just, like, kind enough to like, be. Yeah, maybe.

[E]

Maybe they could have just. Just sat down. He. She came alone. He came alone. They just happened to sit beside each other.

[F]

The bar was full.

[E]

She could be his publicist.

[B]

That's true.

[C]

She could be literally.

[E]

Literally someone who works for Bravo and is like, sit down with me. Let's talk about next season. Do you want.

[A]

At this very public bar.

[C]

At this very public bar.

[F]

Actually, great idea.

[D]

If she's his publicist, she's kind of.

[H]

Bad at her job.

[C]

Or good.

[G]

Or good.

[D]

Depending on how you look at it.

[G]

I don't know.

[B]

It could be anybody. I mean, that's.

[E]

It could be any. It could be his cousin who, like, he was like, oh, my God, I'm in New York. And she's like, me too. He's like, let's go grab a drink. Haven't seen you since that family reunion 10 years ago.

[C]

On the other hand, it could be shedding some light on the making out and farting all night. Like, maybe he really is out there lining up dates.

[A]

A guy fart lighting of days.

[C]

I should hope that you'd be able to control it while. While making out.

[E]

But yeah, it is the combo.

[F]

It's the combo.

[C]

And the fact that he was brought up in the reunion again, where she, Lisa was calling out Heather for backstabbing her and being like, oh, you thought it Was funny to have them say that. That I'm like, Makes me feel like.

[E]

That was really told to her.

[H]

Yeah.

[F]

Yeah.

[C]

I feel confused, and I feel a little bit misled.

[B]

I just hope they can have, like, a peaceful separation. If so, like, outing it, like, with pictures of people with people we don't know. Like, I feel like that's just gonna get messy.

[C]

Well, I think the reality, too, is that Todd isn't really a character on the show. So I'm like, if they decide to divorce, like, I'm like, Todd can slip into oblivion, and no one's gonna be looking for him after.

[F]

I agree.

[A]

I think this is the ugly side of reality TV and think that, you know, that this played a role in the separation. And, you know, I don't know. I. I just. I don't think it's fun to. To make a bunch of, like, guesses as to why.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Based off an edit we're seeing and people projecting, you know, what they think about a relationship because Todd chooses not to, like, show up on camera to care what people think about him and kind of like. Like, present as kind of a grumpy guy who doesn't want to film.

[C]

Sure. But I'm also kind of like. I think it's. It's. It goes two ways where I'm, like, being on a reality TV show also shows from an outside perspective what your relationship's like. We're kind of seeing that with Potomac right now and how all the other women have an opinion that we're kind of seeing as well. But Angel's very convinced that she's in a healthy relationship. So I do think that being able to watch back your relationship through an outsider's eyes and being like, okay, maybe I don't like the way that he speaks to me, or maybe I want this to be fixed. Like, I'm like, I think it's a great tool to be able to work on your relationship, But I also think it might put a magnifying glass on problems that maybe you were trying to ignore.

[A]

How would you compare that to, say, how the cast the Valley spoke about Dani and Nia and that projection? Cause that seemed, like, way off base.

[F]

That's nice.

[C]

I agree. I think it's awful. But I'm also kind of like. You see that projection the same way that we kind of see with, like, Bronwyn and Whitney and Mary this season with Meredith, where I'm just like, you're projecting something based off of what's going on with yourself. It has nothing to do with the Actual relationship.

[F]

I sympathize with the fact that he didn't want to do the show and he was reluctant. I'm like, I get that. And I actually think that's probably, like, signs of, like, healthy, you know, wanting a healthier relationship. But I also think we have seen some things and there's been some, like, you know, pictures or, I don't know, rumors about what's happening. And I kind of. I don't know.

[C]

Like.

[F]

Yeah, personally, I don't want to root for a marriage to fail, but I also kind of feel like she may be better off without him.

[E]

Him too.

[C]

Like, that's what I'm saying. Maybe he doesn't want eccentric furniture and, like, have to pull out his black card to be like, this is the only reason why she's with me. So, like, maybe for him, there's also a little bit of, like, go your.

[F]

Separate ways and then you can be private and she can be fabulous.

[H]

Yeah.

[F]

Thank you.

[E]

Well, we also have Monica Garcia.

[C]

I love it.

[D]

It's great to watch.

[E]

We love Monica. She's been on this show several times. But I do think what she is doing on social media is not helpful.

[B]

She's campaigning overturn.

[H]

But did.

[E]

I don't think this is the way to do it. This is not.

[C]

She already said she confirmed that she's not coming back. So that's kind of why she said she was going even harder online.

[D]

But it's like, it's.

[A]

It's.

[D]

Leave it to the professionals.

[A]

It's giving. Sorry, it's giving a little fan behavior.

[F]

Which she kind of is.

[G]

Right.

[A]

Because that's why we love.

[D]

She is.

[A]

She makes a comment.

[C]

Well, Meredith just gave.

[A]

Yeah, yeah. And then that has seemed to greenlight Monica to really keep going where it's just kind of like, oh, this person acknowledged my post and confirmed what I said. I'm going to quadruple down.

[G]

Yeah.

[B]

Yeah.

[E]

We have a great Going deeper coming up. And when we talk to this person about this incident, she referenced.

[A]

You mean Angie King.

[E]

I do mean Angie K. No, it is Angie.

[D]

It's Angie Katzenko.

[E]

And Angie K. Referenced. You know the book if you give a mouse a cookie. I said, and I do.

[A]

Yeah. Next week's Going deeper, Angie K. And it was exceptional and really just a dream come true. And she was.

[D]

She hugged me.

[B]

I milk. Was I right Four or five years ago.

[E]

Wait a second. First of all, we need to call out Justin because I don't get shy.

[B]

Like, I don't know what I said.

[E]

Justin has been.

[A]

If you Haven't Justin's been singing Angie's praises?

[B]

No.

[E]

Justin has been team Angie since, like, she was born. I feel like he was. Like, he was there. She's gonna be amazing. And then she comes into the studio kindest, like, I mean, just talking to everybody, talking into. In there with the editor. She's like, love you guys so much, giving everybody hugs. We're. We're telling her how much Justin, like, has rooted for her and been on her side. She's like, oh, my God, you were a fan when I didn't have any. Like, I love you so much. And then before she leaves, she goes, justin, do you want a picture? And Justin says, froze.

[A]

Only he froze. He absolutely froze. It was very cute.

[E]

I don't typically take photos.

[C]

I can't.

[B]

I didn't mean it that way, but.

[F]

It came out that way.

[E]

I know you don't want to stoop down to my level to take a photo with me.

[B]

It literally screamed inside, no. Cause I. No, I don't. The last person I felt that way was Denise Richards. But, like, I just think she's big in, like, my perspective of bra and reality tv that I was like, stop looking at me, please.

[E]

I don't typically take photos.

[C]

He blushed.

[D]

I took their pictures. And the way Justin was, I've never seen him blush.

[B]

I don't. I don't get starstruck, but I do love Angie.

[E]

She was so cute. But, yeah, we've got a great going deeper coming up. But we did ask her about all of this, and. And she said, you know the book if you give a mouse a cookie? And I was like, it's gonna ask for a glass of milk.

[A]

I imagine there's a rapid recap. Let's do.

[C]

Let's do.

[E]

Well, if you missed the most recent episode of the Real Housewives of Salt Lake City Reunion, part one, here is your rapid recap. We're back in Greece, AKA New York City. Apparently at Bravocon, Whitney got drunk and tried to be friends with Meredith, and now they're fighting again. Whitney stands by it all. Alcoholic, pill popper, et cetera. Lisa gets so excited when Annie wants to talk about her, but Heather and Mary think she's a risky friend. It's okay because she's riding solo, not writing Meredith. Also, her DNA is not Utah. It's New York. Whitney thinks Lisa got a facelift and didn't meet Ben Affleck. Bronwyn and Lisa are not friends. Lisa says it's like wanting to skin me and be me to Angie because she did an Arby's ad. Also, it's been 100 episodes of Salt Lake City. We've all grown and changed so much. Then Britney enters with an emotional support teddy bear. She didn't realize she was flirting with the deckhands on Below Deck until she watched it. Heather did not fuck Captain Jason and she does not like Meredith and Lisa tag teaming. She also doesn't think Lisa has a real job. Angie brought a scroll. It has Lisa's phone number on it. To be continued.

[A]

What is a real job exactly?

[F]

None of us know.

[G]

Yeah, Yeah, I will be.

[E]

Yeah, I. I did not understand what Lisa was saying. She's like, you've been at my parties with Daniel Radcliffe and you don't know what I do? It's like, no, someone.

[A]

Someone checking on Daniel.

[H]

He's like, what the.

[C]

Did I catch a story?

[A]

He's like, you should text him and.

[E]

Be like, hey, you all right?

[B]

It's so ironic, though, like, how much that conversation mirrored when people would ask Heather what she thought of Jen Shaw's business. Like, it was almost word for word the same. Like, I don't know. I've been to a party. I don't know what she does.

[C]

Heather knows exactly what she was trying to. Because they were trying to do that during the season. As if it was like, Lisa is a scammer and that's how she has her money. That's what you're insinuating.

[E]

When she first started explaining the lawsuit, she's like, this one is in litigation, this one is being something, something. And then she brings it up 10 minutes later, she's like, they're all dismissed. There's none of them are current active.

[F]

Which was like. Which means I practically won. I was like, I don't think that's what that means. I don't know.

[E]

But Ron was like, so you paid them back?

[B]

Yeah, I feel like they kind of want Lisa to, like, incriminate herself. You know what I mean? Like, it's like, how much can she even say about these lawsuits? And, like, she can even say, like, I said it all, one of them's still active, whatever. But they're like, no, we want you to exactly say.

[A]

But Lisa never does anything to de. Escalate a situation. And she's always like, well, yours is a federal crime.

[D]

It's like, you know what's beautiful about Lisa Barlow and Meredith Mark's friendship? It's literally Lisa being like the most flamboyantly unpr Trained person and will always get herself into deep shit and being like, they're all dismissed. And then Meredith being like, okay, well, technically, yeah. And then backing her up.

[E]

And that's why that's smarter than we think though.

[D]

You have, you have the convict and lawyer.

[G]

And I say that with all the.

[H]

Love in my heart.

[A]

Well, I love the loyalty.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

They're. Oh, they always have each other's back.

[F]

Have they always been like that for as far as.

[A]

I mean.

[D]

Well, except for that one free period in season three, the hot mic where Lisa was like, she's a horse. She half in New York.

[B]

It's end of season two into season three. Yeah.

[D]

Yeah. But they're back.

[A]

A lot of people say they're loyal. Few people are. And those two are with each other. And I respect.

[B]

The tag team was hilarious. We don't tag team.

[E]

And then they're like.

[D]

It'S like God forbid they have allies on the couch. Like.

[C]

Well, I was like. And Heather, you can't be calling out people anyways because you and Whitney are tag teaming storyline the entire season.

[D]

Whitney, Heather, Bad weather, spinning around, tornado.

[E]

Destroy.

[C]

Destroy. Just not a fan.

[E]

Lisa's phone number on the scroll.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

What?

[E]

She's filming at the mouth. She's sending the text messages.

[B]

What are the odds that someone for us, we live in la. Someone in LA has the same area code and the last four digits as our phone number. Because that's what it's going to be based off of. Right. Where you can see an account has like what their number is and she.

[F]

She'S from New York, right?

[H]

Yes.

[F]

So her area code will be different maybe potentially.

[C]

She has been in Utah for a couple decades.

[D]

Yeah, true.

[F]

But I've had my phone number like a long time.

[D]

I've had mine since high school, middle school.

[E]

It would be crazy.

[B]

So it could, it could be someone that's not her. We don't obviously haven't seen the same.

[A]

How do you think they got that video of Lisa talking about Todd?

[E]

I'm sure it was posted on Tik Tok somewhere.

[B]

Well, Bronwyn said a friend or a.

[C]

Fan DM'd it, which means a fan posted it.

[B]

Yeah, they're always recording. It's crazy.

[E]

That's like to be like meeting fans and then being like body shaming Todd is tough.

[A]

Tough. It's, it's, it's not cool.

[E]

And Bronwyn being like, you're like, you're obsessed with him. Like every chance you get in the TikTok comment like everywhere you're talking about Todd and it's like the fact that she couldn't be like you're right. I'm sorry. Exactly. Is crazy.

[F]

I agree completely. Like, it's rubbing me the wrong way. I'm like, it's my. I binge the season before, and then I've been watching this one, but, like, it's really rubbing me the wrong way. And I'm like, it's. It's hard to feel like she's redeemable, but you guys seem to love.

[C]

Oh, I love her. But as I said, I was like, maybe not a great moment by any means, but I'm just like, I highly doubt that. Heather Whitney, if you ask them, like, what's your opinion on Meredith? They went on a football thing and said that Meredith should be benched for the next season. Like, I'm like, you guys say things about each other. You guys are talking about. About Meredith and Seth's relationship. If she's cheat. Implying that he's cheating.

[E]

Like, I do agree that Meredith was asleep for the first half of this season.

[D]

Yeah. Yeah, I do. She was cooking.

[B]

Oh, I thought you were gonna say. I thought you were gonna say on the plane, but I got it.

[E]

No, no, no, no, no.

[A]

She was awake.

[D]

She was watching Crazy rotations, Please.

[E]

Or not.

[A]

Or not.

[D]

I mean, she can multitask.

[E]

Well, we also have the Real Housewives of Potomac. Girls are in Colorado, and the girls hating angel. Besides Tia and Kay.

[A]

I am. Yeah. Not a fan.

[C]

I was going to say. She just doesn't bring housewife energy. She doesn't come to play.

[D]

No sauce.

[C]

You know what I mean? She's very much like, I don't like that. I don't like that. And this is how I'm going to treat you, and this is why you treated me. And it's like, we don't care.

[A]

The montage of her being like, I really want to get to know you ladies.

[C]

Yeah, yeah. And then I booked you a house an hour away from me.

[A]

That was bananas.

[E]

And only two are going to stay at my house.

[C]

My favorites.

[E]

The whole time. Being like, you're coming into my home, you're staying on my 35 acres. And then being like, we don't have the space.

[C]

Like, I'm not gonna lie. Like, did I crack up a little bit of her? Like, lick back with the Giselle and Ashley in these two twin beds in the tiniest room, I was like, that's funny, but leave it at that. And then when it's like, oh, it's an hour commute, and now I'm taking two of them, so, like, you guys can all kiki and you're also now holding these two other women hostage. What if they wanted to go hang out with the other women while you're putting your kids down?

[A]

What was it like? What are you manifesting a room with a bathroom?

[C]

Literally, Rarely.

[D]

Rarely am I super Team Giselle. But in that moment. Moment, like, Giselle talking about running water, I was like, no, get Gisele Bryant running fucking water.

[A]

Giselle has some of the best clapbacks.

[H]

I know she's.

[A]

I don't always agree with her, but I do love her sass.

[D]

I think. I think she definitely stirs the pot. But he got like. Angel doesn't even seem to want to, like, be an ingredient in the pot, you know?

[C]

Have you seen a season of Housewives ever?

[D]

Exactly.

[H]

I'm like, yes.

[C]

They're going to talk about your family. They're going to talk about your husband if you bring him on the show. They're going to talk about your house.

[B]

House.

[C]

They're going to talk about everything. And I was like. And Potomac is one of the shadiest of the seasons.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

So I'm like, why are you acting new here? That, like, all of these women are. All of a sudden, there's nothing else to talk about? There's Potomac, Maryland.

[D]

Baby. Lean in.

[C]

Thank you.

[F]

Yeah, I think that's. For me, that's her greatest sin, is that she's not leaning in. Because otherwise, I kind of feel like.

[E]

Everyone sounds a little ungrateful.

[F]

I'm like, you guys, she's got you in Colorado. Like, this is kind of cool. It's kind of fun. But also, yeah, there should be running water. And I do agree. Her biggest thing for me, I'm like, just, like, lean in and, like, get messy, because that's how you're going to guarantee your spot next.

[A]

When they're meditating and she's sitting on.

[E]

A bench watching them, and then she's like, okay, I'm gonna let you guys rest. And they're like, well, where are you going?

[H]

She's running a camp.

[A]

Yes.

[E]

She's being like, like, head producer, camp counselor. It's like, you're one of us. You're supposed to also stay in this house with us.

[F]

I kind of like it.

[B]

Have you seen the clip? It's been. Everybody's posting it, but it's when angel introduces the group to the men.

[C]

If that was the most wild scene.

[B]

And it's, like, awkward because, like, who are these people? And why are we saying hi?

[C]

Why does that man so, like, confidently sucking on his cigar but can't say hello?

[B]

And they're sitting down while they're standing there, and it's like, okay, was this.

[E]

A preview for next episode or something?

[B]

Is it a preview?

[C]

No, it's in this episode.

[D]

No, they were just there when they.

[C]

Went down to the campfire. And she was like, I'll introduce you to people. And the women are all standing there being like, hi. And the guys were just like, yeah.

[B]

It was a quick scene, but I think the audience was like, well, that was interesting.

[C]

Completely unnecessary.

[E]

I definitely feel like this is going to be a little fire festy of a girls trip, you know?

[F]

It does feel fire fest.

[B]

Yeah.

[E]

Like, not gonna be glam. Not gonna be.

[H]

No.

[C]

Giselle said at the end of this, she goes, I take care of my people, and I'm gonna get us different accommodations. And I have a feeling that Giselle is gonna show out and be like.

[E]

Ooh, you have failed.

[C]

So embarrassing.

[E]

She's like, me, take over.

[C]

I just did the last trip, but I guess I'll handle this.

[A]

That is a power move. Yeah.

[E]

She's gonna find, like, a massive Airbnb and she's gonna get all of the girls to stay in the. Angel, you can go back to your house if you want.

[C]

Angel's Airbnb was so bad that it repaired the relationship between Stacy, Ashley, and Giselle. They were all feeling the water underneath being like, oh, my God, you don't got no water, girl. And it was just like, you guys hate each other. Did you forget?

[H]

Yeah.

[E]

Like, but we have a common enemy.

[C]

This house.

[E]

This house.

[B]

Do we think that angel booked it or do we think a producer booked it? And then Angel's just taking the heat for it. I know.

[E]

No, angel feels like she is very much, like, in control. She's like, we're in my town, like, my place.

[A]

She takes herself very seriously.

[E]

Very seriously.

[A]

Needs to loosen up.

[E]

Yeah.

[C]

I watched the after show because I don't think this was in the episode, but Monique was talking about cash trips, actually, and she was saying that, like, the. The network covers some of the.

[D]

In the episode.

[C]

In the episode. Okay. So she was saying, like, the network covers some of the expenses, but whoever's hosting the trip is working hand in hand with the producer. So it's like she's giving options of, like. So, like, the. The events that they do or, like, the adventures or ziplining, whatever. It's like, those are all suggestions given by the host. So it's like you knew when you put them in the. I don't even know what to call that. Just, like, the outskirts of Colorado that they're gonna have no access to anything. No anything. And it was like, the network could have helped with an Airbnb that was closer.

[B]

The Airbnb listing did not say no running water. Or did it.

[C]

Or at least, like, manual. We'll have to go out.

[E]

Or did angel, like, turn it off? Well, I was gonna say, didn't they.

[F]

Say that the chef just, like, turned it back on? It was pretty simple, right?

[C]

There's no lights outside, but apparently there is a thing. Thing that you go out there and flip a switch to turn the water back on. But if you're going out there at 10pm at night with mountain lions, rattlesnakes, the list of things that she was mentioning that live on her property, I was like, wouldn't last. Wouldn't last an hour.

[B]

We all just need to be outdoorsy. Like Natalie.

[C]

I was gonna say we just needed.

[F]

Natalie there to flip the switch because she would have been like, there's a switch. I'm gonna go flip it. Like, you would have just handled it. Like, everyone. Like, I. I understand. I understand, but I just feel like everyone is, like, really making a big deal about, like, the dark ride home. I'm like, yeah, it's Colorado. Like, you're out in the bo. There's not street lights.

[E]

Do we. Are we doing Valley now?

[H]

Yeah.

[A]

The only really gripe I have with Valley Persian style is like, don't show me an entire date about a person I haven't been really invested in.

[E]

And then seconds later, be like, dodge that bullet.

[F]

Broke up.

[C]

Dodge the bullet.

[E]

We just Sat and watched 20 minutes of your date with this person. And last episode.

[D]

I feel like Sophia is not going to leave. I feel like Sophia is going to be here.

[A]

You think this is a way that they're incorporating her into the show?

[D]

Yeah, that would make sense.

[A]

Because otherwise it is kind of like.

[D]

Or, like, testing out her as a friend of.

[E]

Is she causing or like, she's friends with Natasha, so she's gonna like, it didn't work out with. Are we calling him RJ or are we calling him.

[F]

There's Rezas.

[D]

Well, he's Reza Jackson.

[E]

I thought he was Jax. I thought people were calling him Jax because there's two Rezas and he's Reza Jackson, which makes sense.

[D]

But then RJ too.

[E]

But then I heard Gigi call him rj.

[B]

So I'm like, I think it depends on the people in the group.

[C]

Hot Reza. And I'm just kidding.

[D]

Hot.

[C]

Loafers Reza, Straight Reza.

[E]

And we're gonna just start seeing like, awkward encounters of the two of them. Like, being forced to be in the same room.

[C]

Didn't he say at the end that they decided that it didn't work out? They're going separately.

[E]

Said, I dodged a bullet. Which is, like, a crazy thing to say about someone date.

[H]

Yeah.

[C]

But it's like, why? Because she was direct and, like, asking questions for the answers that she needed to know so you don't waste her time. Yeah, I'm sorry, Dodge. I said, get it.

[E]

Girl is craz.

[D]

I enjoy Valley Persian style.

[A]

No, I'm. I. It's an easy wash. I mean, I'm just obsessed with Reza.

[E]

Yeah.

[A]

And his husband.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

I love watching Reza get into Gigi about her finances. Like, I've invested in this. It feels, like, real.

[E]

It does feel real.

[F]

And also it feels like something that nobody from my, like, my world would ever be able to understand. But moving to la, I'm like, oh, this is like, such a thing where people have, like, an allowance and, like, the amount of money people spend just, like, from their family, like, that is so, like, culturally different from where I'm from, where I'm like, we aren't even exposed to that.

[E]

So it's.

[F]

I think it's, like, a really cool concept to have, like, Persian style.

[E]

The Valley, what do we think of Tommy and MJ and him being like, I love to tease. And her being like, yeah, but you're being mean to me.

[C]

The kid thing kind of got me too. Like, that made me. My heart hurt for her a bit. Just because it's like, you know, your kid doesn't know what he's saying, but it's like he's replicating how you speak to me and thinks it's okay. And then it's also like, Tommy being.

[E]

Like, when mommy comes out, tell her she looks pretty, but then also, she, like, will wear too much makeup. So if she's wearing too much makeup, tell her it's too much. It's like, okay, like, let. Just let him be, like, love, respectful. Love his mom.

[H]

Totally.

[E]

He's like. But he has a good sense of humor. Right.

[B]

We also, like, know the outcome of their relationship, too, which is kind of.

[C]

That's what I was gonna say.

[B]

It's weird because you're watching. You know where it's gonna go. They're gonna end up filing for divorce. But then, like, so you're kind of.

[C]

Watching it through a Len, like, not like a Bronwyn and Todd, where you're like, oh, maybe this is just the dynamic of their relationship.

[E]

So, like, I should step back.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

She's.

[H]

She.

[C]

She separated.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Towards the end. Yeah.

[C]

So it's like, we know that. And going into it, that.

[B]

Me watching it, I'm like, I want it to, like, work out or something to fix. And maybe it does, but we know that she.

[A]

That makes me feel a bit better, though, because it doesn't feel like the show was the reason for it. Because, like, with the Codwin and Braun Brawin, it's kind of like, oh, God, this. Like, what did this have happened? Had the.

[F]

Had the show not happened for them?

[A]

Like, you know.

[G]

Yeah.

[E]

But, yeah, they definitely. Watching Tommy and mj, I'm like, this. I just don't. I don't see it.

[C]

Like, I appreciate comfort and whatnot, but, yeah, if we're going out for date night, like, please don't talk like this. Like, try to, like, woo me. Try to act like we just met or something. And, like, try to, like, take me home with you. Like, this date night. Like, not like, oh, my stomach hurts. And like, yeah, whatever, you're. And he called her a dumbass. I feel like in the car at one point, and I was just like, it's not. Like, nothing's cute about this.

[F]

This is an example where they can not they. But he can watch it back and grow, hopefully.

[E]

Yeah.

[B]

Because.

[E]

Was he on Shaws?

[C]

Yes, he was. Yeah, they got together on Shaws.

[A]

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[A]

Ladies, welcome to the show.

[B]

Hi.

[E]

Thank you.

[A]

Very excited to have you. Well, I mean, we all know obviously, Tiffany. And then we have Sparkle.

[H]

Yes. Hi.

[A]

And then we have Selena.

[E]

Yes.

[A]

And then we have Shimona. It's been really fun watching your show. Tiffany Hadish goes off. It's such a fun concept. Obviously, Tiffany was. We know so much about you and your career and everything you've done, but very rarely do we get kind of a sneak peek and inside to some of the close relationships that some of our favorite celebrities have. Usually that's kind of a something people keep private. And it's really fun to see because obviously, I think the people we've known from the beginning, early in life, really know us the best and keep us grounded, can check us and things like that. And it's. I think, obviously what you ladies have is such a special relationship, and it's just fun to see. So thanks for taking the time to chat with us.

[G]

Thank you for inviting us.

[E]

It was a very fun dynamic. And for. I know you intro everybody on the show, but for our audience who doesn't know, can we just give a little how you met everybody?

[H]

Okay, so Selena, I met at, like, 12 years old. Sixth grade. We're going into seventh. We going into seventh grade. So we was about to be 13. You know what I'm saying? About to be 12. About to be 13. And so I met her and told her to her face, she gonna be my friend. And that's. That did 14. No, that was 13. No, no, 14. Cause we was in ninth grade.

[G]

Ninth grade.

[H]

Ninth grade. I met Shimona in algebra class. She leaned over and she said, are you allowed to go to parties? I think so. And she's like, I got a car. We going to this party. You want to go with her? I was like, hell, yeah, I'm gonna go to the party. I'm gonna ask my grandma if I could go. Yeah.

[G]

We was like, 14 or 15 pictures of Pontiac Lamont.

[H]

Sparkle is Shimona's sister, and Sparkle had to go everywhere we went. We wasn't allowed to go certain places. Let Sparkle with. We wanted to take Sparkle. Cause she gonna snitch Regardless.

[A]

Keep your friends close, your enemy closer.

[H]

We gonna get a whooping. You gonna get a whooping, too.

[E]

So it wasn't a downer that Sparkle had to join. It was like, no, she's coming with us.

[H]

Sparkle is fun. It was awesome.

[E]

So you had fun hanging out with your older sister and her friends?

[A]

Yeah, I did.

[G]

I did. I enjoyed all these ladies. Well, I didn't really get to hang out with Selena that much.

[H]

No, we didn't bring Sparkle.

[D]

Certain things.

[G]

We didn't bring Selena that much.

[A]

Question for you ladies. I'm. I'm curious when. When Tiffany. Tiffany got into the entertainment business and things really popped off for her, what part of you was surprised? I mean, it's gotta be surreal at any point when your friend becomes a household name and a big celebrity. But was that something where you're like, nope, you know, we kind of expected that with Tiffany. Or was it a little. Or a combination of, like, holy shit, I can't believe this is happening.

[I]

Not a surprise at all. Not to me. Yeah. She has so much character, so charming, so talented. Yeah, that was not a surprise for me.

[B]

Right.

[G]

She gives off hardcore star energy.

[H]

Right? Star energy or kingpin energy. Either way, I feel like the biggest criminals could have been the biggest stars. Either way, the way the world look at it seems like everybody's a criminal. So I'm watching everybody. Everybody.

[E]

Whether you up to whatever.

[H]

Now.

[E]

Y' all are stars.

[H]

They've always been stars.

[E]

Growing up and growing through your friendship, were there ever moments where your friendship struggled and y' all had to, like, fight through battles and tough times to, like, get back to each other or. We always, like, no, we're good.

[G]

I think when Shimona went off to college, it was a little bit different because she went to college in Atlanta, Georgia. And then that kind of separated, like, me and my sister and then Tiffany, too, because. Cause I would hang out with Tiffany through my sister Shimona. But then when my sister left, our friendship kind of, like, got better, though, I believe. And then I gained more of a bond with Tiffany. Cause Shimona was like, you need to hang out with Tiffany more. So I would go to the Laugh Factory and support her.

[H]

We go to club and say that.

[G]

Day, surrounded by a couple jokes, like, you think this funny? I was like, yeah. And I'm like, nah, that ain't good.

[E]

You are a tough critic.

[G]

Yeah.

[E]

You would be, like, honest with her.

[H]

And that's what I love about her, though. She's always honest. All my friends, very honest with me. I mean, sometimes I Think they say little stuff to just like, calm her down and then we gonna tell her truth once she calm down. But for the most part, they always honest with me, and that's why they are my friends, cuz they're honest. It's the yes men that get disappeared real quick.

[E]

Y' all know each other deepest, darkest secrets. So what, one by one. What is one word to describe each of you? Sparkle, circle. Start with you?

[G]

Free spirited.

[E]

Like all of you are free spirited or one is more free spirited.

[G]

Tiffany, for sure.

[E]

All of us.

[H]

All of us.

[G]

That's one word to describe all of us.

[E]

Okay. Okay, Tiffany.

[H]

I would say artist. Very artistic. You know, if I want to, like, get an opinion on the way something looks or how something is, as far as, is it beautiful? Is it not beautiful? That's this one right here. That's this one. This one right here. Organizer. Shimon is the organizer. The pull everybody together. The she is the rounder upper. She rounds everybody up.

[E]

She's the glue.

[A]

The plans are laminated.

[H]

Check everybody. Make sure everybody on the same agenda. That's the school teacher, you know, Come on, everyone. Okay, Everybody wear white. Be wearing black. But everybody else looks like.

[C]

Only on screen.

[H]

Only on the parties. But if I want to put something together and I want to make sure everybody shows up, I'll make sure Shimona knows, because Shimona will let everybody know. Even the people I don't mess with that much. They'll be there too. I'll be like, damn, this is okay. I got to learn how to. I'm going to treat them with. With grace. This is my. This is my grace challenge.

[E]

Smile and waves.

[H]

Yes. Yes. I didn't say don't invite that person. So they're here, and that's okay. That's okay. My friend loves them. I will love them in a moment, but get that out my house. Is she really be like, I'm kind, but get that bitch out my house. Spot on. And then I would say, Selena is like the listener, the counselor, also the partner in crime. We have done some shit. Like, you would be like, y' all did what y' all did. What y' all thinking? And why would you do that? And I'm like, selena said it was cool to do, so we did it. And then everybody would be like, tiffany, you're a bad influence. You this. And I'm like, what's the list of.

[I]

Why it was really me?

[H]

Silent killer, the mastermind behind all of this shenanigans. Yeah. But then she's like the best counselor. Like, when I'm, like, really super down. Really, whatever. She, like, listens, and then she gives great perspective. Like, what did you think about this part, Tiffany? Or what about that? Or, girl, you crazy as hell, you know? You need to stop fucking with that person. Like, she's. That's what everybody is.

[F]

Wow.

[B]

Yeah.

[E]

And y' all agree?

[G]

Yeah, big time.

[A]

Selena, I really. I really picked up on what Tiffany had to say. Watching the show, you really seem to have this kind of very calming presence. It seems like, you know, the side of your friends that a lot of people. People don't see where, like, we're. We're one person might be. Oh, they present as this. You. You seem to always have that kind of understanding of, like, maybe something that could be insecure about or appreciate something that other people don't get to see. Where did you kind of get that kind of intuition that you seem to have?

[I]

I think I try to pour out what I want people to give to me, you know? And not every part of my. My being is as simple as I may present. Right. I may have, like, some really complex shit that I'm going through, too. Maybe that's where I get it from. It's like, what I'm giving is what I want in return.

[E]

That's beautiful.

[A]

Yeah.

[H]

Damn. I'm gonna start listening more.

[E]

She really has some good advice. Tiffany, how did this show. How did your show come to be? How did it. How did you come up to them and be like, I want to take y' all on this trip. I want to do this show. I want to show our friendship?

[H]

So I was working with my friend Black, who's a producer, and we were going back and forth about different kind of shows. And then he's like, I want to introduce you to these people. They do reality shows, and we could maybe take this show or that show over there to them. I was like, okay, cool. But we had all these different show ideas, and when we went to meet with these. This production company, they had ideas. So we pitched, like, two of our ideas, and then they pitch all of theirs, which was a lot. And then I was like, well, we still got some more ideas, but before we get to airing all those out, I really like the idea of me going on a trip with my real friends. I love that idea. And that was from Chandrella. Avery Chandrella came up with that one. And I was like, girl, I've been talking about that for years. I would love to do that, especially if I can get a studio to pay for it. We out. We with it. And. And then we put together a package, and I came to them. I came to all of them and was like, would you wanna go with me to Africa? They're like, heck, yeah. You've been talking about this for years. Yeah, we'll go. So it was super easy. And then there was some other people that we had asked before. Sparkle. No, Shade. Sparkle. But, you know, they might not have passed. They might not have passed all the qualifications. You know what I'm saying? They might not have met the qualification. Those qualifications to lead a country. They might not have met all the qualifications. They still my girls. But they didn't meet the qualification. And so they was like, sparkle. Sparkle meets the qualification. You want to go Sparkle? Sparkle's like, hell, yes. I'm like, she gonna tell us if our outfits look crazy. She gonna make sure we look cute. Because the budget is not budgeting the way that we thought it would. We don't have no stylists on this. We ain't got no makeup artists with us. Everything is on our own. We're doing it on our own. Doing our own makeup, our own hair, our own outfits and stuff. So it was kind of perfect to have Sparkle to go. No, that don't work. That don't work. Like, that works. That was good. And, yeah, that's how the show came about. We went around, pitched it to different places. We did a little video footage with all of them, and Peacock was like, yeah, we'll do it. And here go the thing. That's crazy, though. You know, Peacock, they reality shows, they like, you know, sex, drugs, violence. You know, every show got little sex, drugs, violence in it. And we not about sex, drugs and violence. I mean, I love sex.

[I]

Sex.

[H]

I love, like. Wait, wait a minute. We all love sex. We all love sex. Sparkle. Sparkle, stop doing sex. Sparkle. Sparkle. Sparkle, stop doing sex.

[G]

She gave it up.

[H]

She quit on sex. But all of us, we do. She like sex, too. She get taking a break.

[E]

And how are you feeling?

[H]

Sparkle, her skin, clear.

[E]

Level.

[G]

My energy is just popping.

[H]

I know it is. She transmuting. She transmuting that sexual energy. It's a fashion and, you know, beauty stuff and organizing events. Yeah, whatever. I don't want to transmute mine. I want to use it. Anyways, what was it say? So we don't. We don't have that. That. That element of sex, drugs, violence. I mean, we have confrontations. We, you know, we have some libations going and good times and, you know, there's some sexy men around, but ain't nothing Wrong with it. We just ain't about that life. Like, we are trying to find peace at all times. It's already enough as black women, we're already under attack at all times. It feels like no matter what you do, you're doing something wrong. No matter how you move, it's not good for this person or that person. So if we can move as a group, as a unit, and feel safe together and be in a safe space and have peace together, because it's already. So it's violent out there. It's violence every day. I mean, some lady was yelling at me yesterday. I thought she wanted to fight, and it turns out she was just really excited to see me. I instantly went into, oh, I'm about to beat this bitch up. Finally, I get to fight somebody. She like, Tiffany motherfucking Tiffany from across the street. I'm like, oh, we finna get up. I'm getting ready to go.

[E]

And she's like, if you could.

[H]

And I was like, what's up?

[G]

What's up?

[H]

And then she come across the street, and then I'm like, oh, it's about to go down. She's like, I love you, girl. I'm like, why? Why you screaming at me like, we about to fight?

[E]

So filming the show, y' all were like, listen, we're not doing sex, drugs, and violence, you know, but, like, this is the real us. Was it?

[H]

Well, we didn't initially take the thing of we not doing sex, drugs, and violence. Oh, okay, okay. We just went was like, we gonna have peace. That's not necessarily what they was looking for. They thought it was gonna be sex, drugs, violence.

[E]

So was there a little bit of, like, negotiating?

[H]

I might've. I might've threw a temper tantrum.

[E]

Yeah, okay, okay. But having cameras follow you ladies around, I mean, was there a sense of, like, uncomfortableness for you three?

[G]

Yeah, in the beginning, yeah, it was. But then I'm like, oh, my God, I'm gonna be a star.

[H]

She's ready for it. She's ready for it. I tell you.

[B]

She's.

[G]

I'm like, what we doing?

[I]

She is ready.

[G]

We got a chef every day. Oh, my God.

[H]

Me.

[A]

She got comfortable real quick.

[G]

The only part I didn't like that we didn't have our glam squad with us. Like, yeah, for me, it was, like. It was crazy. It was super intense. And I was so unused to being, like, mic'd and everything. I'll be, like, trying to whisper to Tiffany something. She's like, you know, they can hear you.

[H]

It. I'm like, girl, you know they can hear you. Right. You need to cover it.

[A]

Like, it sounds like a whisper.

[H]

Yeah.

[G]

Right.

[E]

You need to go get in the water.

[H]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[G]

Awkward, awkward, awkward.

[I]

Yeah. In front of camera. That's all Tiffany. Behind the scenes.

[H]

That's all me.

[G]

Yeah.

[I]

You know?

[F]

Yeah.

[I]

I enjoy being behind the scenes. Like, having my private life, you know, I think I went through a stage where I was like, I don't want to say the wrong thing. I don't want to move the wrong way, you know, because critics can be so mean.

[A]

Yeah.

[I]

You know, when I'm just being myself, you know, so.

[G]

And it's council season. It's like, we have real jobs.

[I]

I know, right?

[H]

Real lives.

[G]

We have to pay.

[H]

We have to go back to nobody else, but we got to go back.

[G]

To work and take care of kids.

[I]

Yeah.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Speaking of critics, we were talking about before we started, like, the devil is online, and the devil is online.

[H]

That's where the devil lives.

[A]

You know, we deal with our own. And I'm always, like, telling my wife, like, that don't matter. It's just, like, it's all a game. We're just lucky to be a part of it. But sometimes that's easier said than done. I'm curious. Like, obviously, Tiffany, you've. You've been experienced in this. You know, I'm sure you've developed thick skin over the years, but how did you prepare your friends for, like, the vitriol that can be the Internet and its nastiness? Because, like, people will just look for shit, you know, and then they will try to spin that shit. And. And, you know, hearing you talk about the show or it just feels like everyone's upping your business. Like, you know, you can be a pro, but, like, sometimes, like, that shit just fucking gets to you. And, like, how did you prepare your friends? And just in general, how do you deal with all that bullshit?

[H]

I didn't really. Okay. I might have did my friends a disservice because I don't think I was like, she didn't. I don't think I prepared them at all. I don't think I gave them any. Like, okay, this is what it's going to be. This how you need to feel. That's what you should do. I didn't because I feel like they've been with me the whole time. They have seen, like, hands on firsthand, seen me, like, kind of lose my shit. Cause I wanted to jump through the damn computer, through my phone and go beat somebody up. At their house. You know, that's what I be wanting to do. But they've always talked me down. They've always kept me calm. They've always been like, girl, forget them, or whatever. Like, you guys have always chimed in like, we know the truth. We know. So I felt like I didn't need to, like, sit down with them and, like, prepare them for what the Internet does, because I feel like they watch the Internet do what it does to me. They've been right there with me the whole time. Maybe I should have been like, okay, so this is how I deal with it. But I feel like they gave me all the tools to deal with the shit anyways. Like, they gave me my advice is what they gave.

[G]

But I feel like you took it on internally because you were, like, on edge, and you. You didn't want. You was like, these are my girls. No, you can't treat them this way, or they need this or that. And I feel like publicly, people may have picked it out or saw it on our first TV appearance, which was the Jimmy Kimmel. Like, Tiffany was crying. She's like. You know, she was just. She. You are a mess.

[H]

Yeah, well, I'm trying to protect y' all by any means necessary. Fighting for you guys. And, like, if you were all already famous, already had your own TV shows and stuff, a lot of those battles that I was fighting would have been so much easier. I wouldn't have had to do a lot or cry like I did, or, like, I was also trying to protect y' all from seeing me have the battles. Cause I know when y' all know that I'm angry or upset about something, y' all finna get up in the rise, too. So I'm trying to hold this shit in looking like. Looking like that dude from Men in Black. Don't worry, guys. I got dancing.

[B]

Hang on.

[H]

Don't worry.

[E]

It's okay.

[H]

Yeah, we're having fun. Bitch, you tell my friends like that again, I promise you, I'mma snatch your soul out your. Come on, guys. It was so hard. It's hard. Yeah.

[G]

Yeah.

[H]

Trying to protect the people you love, but also, like, trying to make sure there's food on the table for all of us. Also trying to have this amazing experience and wanting desperately to share that with the world so the world can see that, like, we can travel together. We can do all these fun things together, and we don't have to fight each other to do it. We don't have to. You know, it doesn't have to be like, we're Drunk and throwing bottles at each other and nothing like that. Like, can literally we have conversations. Shimona put me to the side. Like, what is going on with you? What's wrong? You not being your. Like, what's. What's happening? And I'm like, girl, these people. And I don't want to tell her all the way because I don't want her to take that on.

[A]

Yeah.

[H]

Because I know how Shimona is. She will rah rah on these. She get row. Then there will be violence.

[A]

It's kind of like that thing where you go to your friend you hate. Whatever you do, don't look behind you. And your first instinct is. And just like the Internet, you're just like. You don't want to be like, hey, just so you know. Like, you know, because, you know, it's just hard to not go look. And. And it's. It's.

[H]

Yeah. But what I try to remind them and also remind myself what is written on that Internet is not what's in real life. When you go out in real life, those same people that's talking so bad about you, making videos hours after hours of material to talk bad about you. Soon as they see you in the street, they so excited to see you, they want to hug you, they want to take a picture with you. All of this stuff. So it's like how they act on that keyboard is not who they really are. That's not who that person really is. And I have yet I'm still waiting for the person to talk that mess online, come talk that mess to my face. It's not real.

[A]

It's the Matrix. Yeah.

[H]

Yeah. And tell you that's where the devil live is on the Internet. The devil live online mostly on Twitter.

[E]

Like on TikTok too. He's starting to move in.

[H]

He's moving his real estate around.

[A]

I think he's before the Internet.

[H]

I feel like the devil just lived in Florida, in New Orleans. You know what I'm saying? It's wild stuff going on. Maybe in Vegas a little bit. And then the Internet came in the. And the devil was like, oh, I can cover way more territory if I just live online. I can destroy more souls. I can kill more people's joy. I can make them self conscious about themselves. I can make them feel like they not good enough, which will cause them to make more sins, more pain of more people. So let me just be. Sometimes I'll be on there, I'll be like, dang, I wish I didn't know how to read again. If I didn't know how to read. Right. If I didn't know how to read, I'd be so much less stressed. I would be stressed on other things like, oh, how do I pay this light bill? How do I do this? A lot of simple shit. That's what you got friends for. Hello, can you help me figure out how to do these taxes? Can you help me with this? I'll pay you this to do this for me. Like, you know, I'll cook this meal for you if you do this. Like, that's what you got friends for. And your friends also protect you and keep remind you that you are okay and you are not the garbage of the earth that's ruining the whole black community.

[E]

Was it hard in the beginning for Tiffany when y' all started seeing negative comments online? Was it hard for the three of you to not chime in? I mean, my best friend from home is like, please stop me from calling this bitch ugly. Like, whatever, you know, like, tell me to stop because I'm about to comment that this bitch bitch is ugly. Like, what did. Was it ever.

[I]

That's a natural instinct, right? To want to take up for someone you love?

[E]

Totally.

[I]

Yeah. So you want to respond and be like, what you say. Well, actually what happened was if you.

[G]

Knew her, then you would know, right?

[E]

Yeah.

[I]

Yeah, But I mean, what is that going to solve? She's going to turn you up Just like LA traffic.

[G]

Just like LA traffic.

[H]

One of my foster kids that I work with was begging me to stop being. Can you stop? Just stop being famous. Just like, quick. Just like, go back to working at the airport or something. Like, stop being famous. And I'm like, why? Like, Cause I can't keep fighting for you. It hurts me when they talk bad about you. It hurts me. And I said, well, don't read about me then. Don't watch nothing with my name on it. Because if I stop being famous, baby, you ain't gonna have nowhere to live. You're not gonna have the resources that I'm able to.

[C]

You show.

[H]

So I can't stop being famous. Even if I wanted to stop being famous right now, it'll probably still take like four years before people forget. And then they probably will reinvigorate some other shit. Yeah, I go work at the airport. They gonna be at the airport every day. I go, wherever I go, it's gonna be a situation on a daily. So, like, just embrace it. Appreciate the benefits, the fruits of that. And don't read the shenanigans. Cause I can't stop. I'm addicted. I'm in the game.

[E]

On this show, you were very. There was so many vulnerable, beautiful moments. You opened up about your eight miscarriages. I myself have had three. It's something that I think nobody can relate to until you go through it. Then once I had my own, it was like, oh, my God, now I feel your pain, you know, like, now I get it. How did you. I mean, how did you get up and pick up the pieces time after time?

[H]

A lot of lying. A lot of lying to myself. A lot of just being like, well, that's God saying, that's not the one for me, you know, that I'm not supposed to be with this person. He toxic, he this, he that. You know, I would try to blame the dude. I didn't talk about it with my friends that much. Cause I. I wanted to be that happy place. And I know there's nothing that anybody could do about it, right? Sometimes my friends will tell me about their fertility issues or whatever, and I'm like, here's a candle. Here's what? Like, what the fuck?

[F]

Yeah.

[H]

I lit that thing every night. But, like, when I think about it, like, it was the corniest crap in the world that I was, like, just trying to, like, put a band aid on whatever they were going through. Meanwhile, every time I lost the baby, it felt like a piece of my soul died, right? Pit felt like ripping, like, rips you apart a little bit, and it puts like a. I feel like a stain on my soul, right? I'll never be able to get that person back. Maybe that person was gonna be a murderer. I tell myself stupid stuff, like, maybe they was gonna be a murderer. Maybe they was gonna steal from me. Maybe they was gonna cause a lot of pain and destruction on the planet. Me having a baby with that dude. Oh, that baby would've probably been ugly as hell. I'd have been looking at her like, damn, you so ugly. But you mine. Like, I would tell myself so. So much crazy, like, just really. Just probably inappropriate stuff. But it helped me deal with it, right? And then I would get on stage immediately. I remember being on stage and feeling goob gobs of blood coming out of me while the whole room is laughing and my back hurting and I'm in pain, but they laughing. And so that made me feel like, well, you just focus on that. That's joy. That's what you love. Love, right? This is pain, and it's pain that's happening in the middle of this joy. And it's happening for a reason, I guess to Build me up in some kind of way. I don't know what I don't know. And maybe because I used to always say, I don't want no kids. I already raised my brothers and sisters. But I was saying that a lot because I wasn't able to hold it, and I was able to keep it, right? So I'm saying things that I don't necessarily 110% believe, but it's what I needed to say for myself to move through the stuff, right? But there's this thing of, like, am I even strong enough to carry a human? I'm having.

[D]

What's wrong with me?

[H]

Yeah, what's wrong with. I'm weak.

[G]

Why?

[H]

Why God make me so weak, right? But then it's like, damn it. I look outside of the body, I'm hella strong. It's so many kids that's thriving right now because of all the love that I poured into them unknowing, knowingly, you know, just thinking, like, oh, I'm to do for them what I wish my mama would have did for me. I'm gonna look out in this way. I'm gonna protect in this way. Yeah, that's my. There it is. Like, that kid is my God. Kids. No. You know, I got enough powder on my face, And you hand the tissue more comms you need, But it's just.

[G]

Dab, dab, don't smear, okay?

[H]

Yeah, dab, dab.

[C]

Make sure we tell you that.

[H]

She would tell you that, but it's so difficult because at the end of the day, when you really sit back, like, once all the hormones go away and you, like, okay, almost back to normal, you have to look around and go, dang. You know, maybe I'm not able to put a human out of my. My body, but I am able to sow into all these humans that are alive, that are around me that need love, that needs. And I got a lot. I got so much love. And I would like to give a little bit of love to everybody, but everybody don't deserve my love, right? And maybe those babies. Maybe they was not gonna be deserving. Maybe they was not. They wasn't ready. Okay?

[B]

Yeah.

[H]

And maybe I wasn't ready. And it's. Whatever. Whatever. God got that. That's what I got to keep telling my decision. That's God.

[E]

How did you ladies support Tiffany through that?

[H]

They didn't know.

[E]

You didn't tell out of any of the times you kept it.

[H]

I mean, Selena made. She knew about. But I also had a black eye and. But you know, I was kind of messed up. So this is. Selena knew about that one, but pretty much, I think everybody knew about that one because I was. I didn't tell them. I didn't want it to be the happy person. I didn't want to be the person that's always like, oh, this bad thing happened.

[C]

Yeah.

[H]

Like. And if something bad happened, I'll try to tell. Share it, but then in a funny way, because I don't want to ruin our. I don't want to be the Debbie Downer in the group.

[A]

Well, like. Well, like Nelly said when she experienced her first one, I remember feeling a ton of guilt because, like, you hear other people talk about it, and like Nelly said, it's. You know, people are always like, oh, I'm sorry. You know, and then you realize how many people have told you that you feel like you didn't have the. The appropriate reaction, you know, so then you. And I think a lot of people choose not to talk about it because they don't really know. They don't feel like they're going to get. You know, you're feeling this heaviness on the inside, and it's like, no one's going to understand.

[H]

No matter what anybody say, though, it doesn't matter. Yeah, it doesn't matter what they say. They could say, well, here's a hundred million dollars. You still don't feel like shit. There's nothing. There's no comfort in that. You're dealing with grief. And what I realized, like, after my grandma passed, I've been grieving for years and been running away from it at every chance that I got. Every chance I got, I was running and I was running and running, and then finally it was like, nope, you gots to sit down. You can't run away from this stuff no more. You have to start sharing. You have to. Okay, so four days after my grandma died, I got arrested, right? And then it still didn't really register. It kind of registered like, I need to be dealing with my grief, but I didn't know how to deal with that. I don't know how to deal with that. And then I just was, like, sitting back like, dang, a lot of people have died in my world, and I ain't really grieved them. I try to celebrate their life. I try to celebrate the. You know, they don't have to suffer. This person ain't suffering no more. Like, I would try to celebrate, and celebrating me was like going out to dance, having some drinks, you know, go on stage, make everybody laugh. It's a celebration. Like. But that wasn't healthy, and not for me. But I wasn't registering that until, like, the second arrest. Once I got arrested the second time, then I'm like, yo, I have to make huge changes, adjustments, and I have to be okay with just sitting still, just being in the house all by myself and dealing with my grief. If I need to cry, cry. If I want to scream, I can scream. If I want to just be raggedy and tear some shit up. Tear some shit up. Long as it's in my space. Right. Not in everybody else's space. I don't have to pour this on everybody, but I. And whoever wants to come over here and join me in this sad. In this little pity party, they're more than welcome to come through. But usually when people come through, I stop being pitiful, I stop grieving, because I want to enjoy you. You're here with me. I want to enjoy you. And when I, like, complain about the world, complain about whatever, but I'm still enjoying you. And I'm not trying to put a lot of heavy stuff on, and it's.

[E]

Like, what's going on with you? Like, take it off of me now. I've been dealing with this for so long. Like, tell me about your life, you know, and then it just doesn't. You don't even.

[H]

Don't really deal with it.

[E]

Yeah.

[H]

And so I had to deal with it. And I've learned to create boundaries and be like, you know, I ain't gonna make it to this thing. I just be sitting on the couch, like, I should probably call this person, but if they call me, then I'm supposed to talk to them, but. But otherwise, Maybe I cry for, like, two hours. Then I get up and be like, oh, damn, they did cry. Let me text. Yeah, my bad. I was over here doing a detox. My bad.

[E]

I was in the shower.

[H]

I wasn't paying attention to my phone. I'm so sorry.

[A]

This show has a wedding in it where you marry yourself. I'm curious. What would that represent for you? And how did that whole idea come.

[H]

To be for me? That represented actually treating me and making a commitment in front of my friends to call me. Right. But treating me with the respect and dignity that I would like for a man to treat me with. Right. Loving on me the way that I would like my future husband to treat me with. Right? So I'm basically being my husband and my wife and being, like, the person that would want to marry somebody like, that I would want to marry and hopefully somebody sees me being that way to me, and they would want to marry me and be, you know, be like me to me.

[E]

Did y' all like her husband? Her.

[B]

Her wife.

[G]

Oh, her who?

[E]

She marries her spouse, or do we.

[H]

Like.

[E]

Were y' all a fan of relationship?

[H]

Yeah.

[G]

How you gonna create these vows for Tiffany and Haddish?

[H]

Haddish.

[I]

A little rough in the beginning.

[G]

He was rough around the edges in the beginning. Yeah.

[C]

Yeah.

[I]

But now we acknowledge Haddish.

[E]

Yes.

[I]

You know?

[F]

Yeah.

[G]

Cause I wasn't for the wedding at first. I wasn't for her marrying herself. Tiffany and Haddish, they're now ones. Yeah.

[H]

Cause the most important relationship I'll ever have is the one with me.

[G]

Very true.

[E]

Why were you not a part of the wedding?

[G]

Because I didn't think she was serious at first. I thought she was just. It was like, a joke. And then, like, I thought she thought it was just something fun for us all, like, to do. But then the more I kept challenging her on it and asking her, because.

[H]

I was like, wait a minute, hold up.

[G]

She kept, like. She was really serious about it. She was really, like, you know, doubling down on what she believed that she was going to be doing for herself. And so, you know, then I started taking note of it, and I'm like, okay, well, this is really serious, because marriage is, you know, is between two people. And, you know, like, okay, we don't have to get.

[H]

There's multiple things. There's multiple. But initially, I was like, at least eight.

[G]

Come on, let's not make a joke of marriage, you know? And she made a commitment to herself, which I feel like we all need to do. Like, make commitments, write down those vows. Like, goals. Like, we make goals and we check them off every day. And that, for her was more like, I feel like goals that you were checking off.

[H]

Right. And learning how to love on me and make me happy. Because how can I expect some man to make me happy when I don't know what makes me happy?

[G]

Right.

[H]

I don't even know how to make me happy, how he gonna make me happy. And then why would I put some. Another, like a human through that kind of stuff? Stress. Figure out what makes me happy. Because I don't know, like, and why you don't know what make you happy. If you've been in that body for over 40 years, you should know what brings you joy. And if you don't, you definitely don't need to be expecting some other human being to give you joy when you don't even Want to take the responsibility for giving yourself joy, you lazy ass. Give yourself some joy so then they know how to give you joy. I don't even want to be with nobody that don't know how to be happy. I don't want to waste my time. That's a lot of work making somebody happy. I don't want that job. I would like them to already be happy within themselves. I'm already happy within myself. And let's go be happy together.

[I]

Yeah, it's really nobody else's job, but it ain't.

[H]

But they be trying to make it your job. These be like, you supposed to do this. You do you know how to do that? Would you do what if I wasn't standing here? Would you do it?

[G]

Girl, I'm not doing it right.

[H]

I will pay somebody to do do that. Well, then pay me then. Pay me to do it then. The why?

[E]

Why do I have to do it for free?

[H]

Oh, some. Some stranger can get paid, but I gotta do it for free and I'm stuck. I don't. What am I doing? I'd rather meet a stranger.

[E]

Whose idea was the shark cage?

[G]

Tiffany.

[E]

Of course it was.

[I]

That's all her.

[H]

Yeah.

[G]

Agility queen.

[H]

Yeah.

[I]

Freezing cold water.

[G]

Yeah. That was crazy.

[H]

We wasn't. I feel like it takes a lot of the negat that way. A little adrenaline gets rid of negativity. Right?

[F]

I like.

[E]

Like y' all haven't seen the videos of like the shark breaking through the.

[H]

Yes.

[B]

Oh my God.

[G]

Yeah. And literally Tiffany's like, look at this one in between. Like, they're. They were large.

[H]

Like it was a lot of space.

[G]

Like, yeah, we could have get bit.

[E]

Would you do it again?

[H]

I would. I mean, I love it.

[G]

At first I was like, yeah, no, I'm not doing that. It's too many activities for me. It was only one. But then when I got in, I actually wanted to see. I was afraid, but like just ready to do it at the same time. Like, oh, if I put my hand out, is a shark gonna come? And that chum was just, ugh.

[H]

Yeah.

[G]

But when. When the situation would have got serious, she would have been the first one.

[H]

We seen more seals than anything.

[I]

I was happy to see this seals.

[G]

It was fun. Yeah, I enjoyed. I would most definitely do it again. Hopefully next time get to see some shark.

[H]

Season two. Taking her to a warm place where the sharks really be there.

[G]

Well, as long as I'm in a.

[E]

Cage and hope she's on her period.

[H]

I will schedule it appropriately. Although we're already Sinked up forever. But you do know once you get in the water, your cycle stops.

[E]

Yeah, it does.

[H]

It stops completely the more you know the flow. Yeah, the flow. The flow of it.

[I]

The hormones do not.

[H]

No, the hormones. But it stops while you're in the water. Yeah, right. While you're in the water.

[G]

Take a bath while you're on your menstrual. And then you'll.

[H]

It'll stop. Yeah, for like an. And then once you get out, like you got about a good maybe an hour max.

[G]

Tell me about that long.

[H]

That's how you trick a man and make him think he tow your shit up. Oh, you don't toe me up. You making me bleed.

[E]

That's nuts.

[H]

It's true. Try it.

[E]

And they believe it.

[H]

And most of the time they do. They be like, oh, I'm so sorry. Hey, I didn't know I could do all that, dummy. To boost they self esteem up. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I didn't know this was a weapon.

[G]

He's like, change the subject.

[A]

No, I think I was just gonna end it there.

[H]

I thought, what a great place.

[A]

What a great place to end it.

[H]

But tr.

[A]

Truly, ladies, you're so much fun. I really appreciate you taking the time. Sparkle, Selena, Shimona, Tiffany, you're truly a delight for everyone listening. If you want to have this type of energy, you want to have some fun, you want to be reminded how important your real friends are and what really matters. Be sure to check out Tiffany Haddish goes off. It's streaming now on Peacock. It's a ton of fun. Everyone loves a travel show. Everyone loves to laugh and everyone loves friendship. And this is exactly what this show is. Is. So I really appreciate you ladies taking the time. We could go on and on. I know you have to get going, but I truly appreciate it. And thank you guys for listening to today's episode. We will see you back next week.

[H]

Thank you. Thank you. It's fun.

[G]

Yeah.