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Natalie
You're crazy.
Nick
What's going on, everybody? Welcome back to another wacky and wild episode of the Vile Files Reality Recap edition. I am your host, Nick, joined by my very pregnant wife. Let's go.
Leia
Yay.
Nick
Twins.
Natalie (pregnant wife)
It's twins. Can you guys believe it?
Natalie
No.
Mary
That's awesome.
Natalie (pregnant wife)
Neither can I. Neither can I. Shock Inc. What were you guys feeling.
Leia
When you found out that it was twins?
Mary
Did you think it was gonna be twins?
Natalie (pregnant wife)
Oh, my God. No, we're not.
Nick
Well, funny story.
Natalie (pregnant wife)
Funny story.
Nick
Funny story. Wait, you tell it.
Natalie (pregnant wife)
Nick's sister. Seven, six years ago.
Justin
Oh.
Nick
Big win for the mediums.
Natalie (pregnant wife)
Big win for the sidekicks out there. When Nick and I, like, first started dating, okay, he was like, I'm never getting married. Like, I don't even want to date you. And he's, like, started off, sorry, we're a harsh man.
Bailey Taylor
No, no, no.
Natalie (pregnant wife)
He's like my sister. How funny is this? Like, my sister saw this psychic, and she said, the brother closest to you is going to have twins. Brother closest to his sister, Maria is.
Nick
Nick, both in age and in relationship.
Justin
Okay.
Nick
There was no wiggle room.
Sierra
There was no one else it could be.
Justin
Yeah.
Leia
Okay.
Natalie (pregnant wife)
And so this whole time since, like, I'm like that, you know, it's always in the back of my head of, like, oh, that was so crazy. You know, I'm not really, like, a typical psychic believer, but still sitting back there, you know, still at the. Still in the noggin. And so when I got pregnant with river, it crossed my mind. And now, of course, I go to this ultrasound by myself.
Nick
Why were you, like, I didn't want to come.
Natalie (pregnant wife)
No.
Natalie
Where were you?
Natalie (pregnant wife)
He was with our daughter.
Nick
By myself.
Mary
In studio.
Natalie (pregnant wife)
It's because it was so unfortunate that of course, this Is the one that, like, we don't. You know, River's down for a nap. I think we had a flight to catch later that day, so we were like, we really need her to nap right now. Nick's home with her while she's napping, you know, can't, like, leave her and just, like, watch the monitor, you know? So I was like, it's right up the road. I'll just go and FaceTime you while I'm there.
Justin
Whatever.
Natalie (pregnant wife)
And then, of course, as soon as I enter the room, it's like, no videoing, no recording, no phones allowed. Leave your phone in your purse. Turned off airplane mode.
Leia
And I'm like, absolutely no exceptions.
Nick
Yeah, because, like, you don't want to, like, put out your own hipaa, but, like, you don't want to violate yourself.
Natalie (pregnant wife)
Don't know why they do that.
Nick
Looking out for the.
Sierra
Like, I think it's like, is it the equipment and stuff?
Natalie (pregnant wife)
Maybe, perhaps, like, it's, like, right under, like, the TV screen that you look at of your. I. Yeah. I don't really know why they do it, but. It had been a long time since I had gotten good news with an ultrasound, right? So I was very, very nervous, and I was already in tears by the time I'm like, under the thing, and she goes in and she's like, okay, there is one gestational sack with a baby. And I'm, like, crying, you know, I'm like, oh, my God. I see the little heartbeat going. I'm like, oh, my God.
Nick
Oh, my God.
Natalie (pregnant wife)
And then she's like, and there is another. So twins. And then I just was like, I wish my husband was here. Like, I was just so heartbroken that he wasn't in that moment with me, you know? And so then, of course, I'm, like, trying to figure out.
Nick
He's texting me what's going on, you.
Leia
Know, I'm a little like, how am I going to tell him?
Natalie (pregnant wife)
Literally, I'm like, why? I can't do this over text.
Nick
So she doesn't reply to my text, and I'm like, are you sticking out?
Natalie
Yeah.
Natalie (pregnant wife)
Then I am like, I'm just. I'm five minutes from the house. I'm just gonna tell him when I get home. I. He, of course, hears me pull into the garage. He comes out.
Mary
I'm crying.
Natalie (pregnant wife)
Crying, of course. So Nick's in a bad headspace.
Leia
I'm like, no, I mean, Natalie, what.
Natalie (pregnant wife)
Was my other option?
Leia
Yeah, true. You could have been like, everything's okay. I'll tell you all about It. When I get home.
Sierra
Okay.
Natalie
Sorry.
Nick
That was her first guess. That was her first try. She didn't even have to brainstorm that well.
Natalie (pregnant wife)
I was just, you know, not in that headspace. I was a little caught off guard.
Nick
Silence and then tears.
Leia
Yeah.
Mary
To be fair, you did just find out you had twins.
Natalie (pregnant wife)
Thank you. Thank you. Was very shocked. So I have to wait for the email. I'm like, I don't want to go home and not be able to show him the twins on the ultrasound. So I'm, like, waiting for the email to take a little extra time.
Nick
Crying in her car.
Natalie (pregnant wife)
Crying in the car. And Nick is standing in the garage.
Leia
Watching Natalie just sitting there in the car.
Natalie (pregnant wife)
The doors are locked.
Leia
He's like, it let me in.
Natalie (pregnant wife)
I was like, no, not yet. And so I.
Leia
Then I just.
Sierra
I.
Natalie (pregnant wife)
All I do is show him the ultrasound, and he's like, what is this? I don't know what's happening. What. Can you just tell me what.
Bailey Taylor
What is this?
Natalie (pregnant wife)
Twins.
Nick
In any ultrasound, they print out she's crying.
Leia
Here's the ultrasound. He's like, but. But is this good?
Natalie (pregnant wife)
And then he's like, what twins? Because of course it says, like, baby.
Leia
A, baby B. Oh, so you noticed.
Nick
I did.
Natalie (pregnant wife)
You noticed.
Nick
It took me about a second.
Sierra
He read, I read.
Amir
Look at you.
Nick
Yeah.
Justin
Wow.
Natalie
Proud of you.
Natalie (pregnant wife)
When in doubt, Reid.
Nick
I mean, I was thrilled.
Sierra
But, like, what went through your mind, like, when you put it all together?
Nick
Like, honestly, I was just happy for a clean bill of health, I suppose. Well, then I'm like, just making sure Nally's okay. You know, there was. I imagine for the ladies out there, that's a lot of information to process.
Justin
Little.
Nick
You know, I'm more just like, yay, kids. You know, like, we get to catch up. But, you know, I was kind of. I was curious how she felt about.
Sierra
It, because did he do good job?
Leia
How did you feel about it?
Natalie (pregnant wife)
I mean, of. I'm just like, pure shock.
Leia
Just.
Natalie (pregnant wife)
I think, honestly, I'm still in shock. The people that I've talked like, my sister has twins. Nick's sister has twins. I know some people, some friends that have twins, and I've kind of, like, reached out to them. Being like, I am a. So scared. Like, I. You know, I crushed one newborn phase. You know, like, one baby, two arms. I can do that. But, like, two crying babies plus toddler. I'm like, I'm so scared. And everyone was like, I didn't fully grasp twins until like, a year after they were born. Like, it just is A process. It's a journey. But I mean, obviously we're just like, overall, so excited.
Sierra
Three under three like that. You guys are the new Danny and Nia.
Justin
Leia's also has twin siblings.
Leia
I do have twin siblings. They're best friends. It's really. It's such a beautiful thing to. As the single tiny. To watch your two siblings. You're the river best friends. Yeah, I'm the river first. Yeah. Yeah. Almost the exact same age difference, too. Two years. Yeah, they. I mean, it's awesome. They're. We're all super close because we're all really close in age also. And I also do want to say.
Natalie (pregnant wife)
Like, for all of the families out there who have struggled through miscarriages and are waiting on their rainbow baby, I know this is like, you don't want to listen to this. This is like, hard to hear that. You know, I remember seeing that I getting on Instagram and seeing everyone doing their pregnancy announcements and it was just like, why not me? Why is this? You know, it's hard to, you know, you're happy for other people, but you're also like, I just. I want that for myself so bad. And so for anyone who's listening, who's waiting on your rainbow baby, just don't give up hope. It's there. They're coming. I just don't want you to be discouraged or lose hope because I was there. I was in that tunnel and it was dark, and you find a way out. And I just. Yeah, it's. It was such a process for us. You know, we luckily had a doctor who was like, I want you to see a fertility specialist. Three miscarriages at your age is not normal, especially having a healthy baby at home. And so we went to Dr. Carolyn Alexander here in Beverly Hills, if anyone is looking for one. She is truly amazing. And we ran a ton of tests. You know, we did everything that she could think of and everything came back very normal. Nick has is exceeding expectations over there, so it definitely wasn't him. And, you know.
Bailey Taylor
I bet you were.
Sierra
Ready to take it, though.
Natalie (pregnant wife)
Yeah. Nick got an A. And it was kind of to a point where it was like, I just want something like, let's just find out what it is. And everything just kept coming back normal. And then she decided to run a test that I think they stopped testing for and found out that I have two blood disorders gene mutations. One is called PAI1. The other one is a TEG. Is called TEG T E G. And I had to go to a hematologist to run more tests about this. And they base. Basically, my blood attacks the fetus. And so we. That's why we always refer to river as like our miracle baby, because it's like, how did that not happen to her? You know, it's like, if this is something that's in my blood that my body does like, it's crazy that she just had. We had no problems with her. So our plan of action has been I take shots of blood thinners in my stomach every single day.
Leia
So are you still doing that now?
Natalie (pregnant wife)
I still do it. I will do it my entire pregnancy. I. I also take an aspirin every day. So the aspirin helps with the tag, the blood thinners help with the pii one. So, yeah, it's been quite the journey. And I think Nick and I, you know, with River, I feel like we took it all for granted. Like, in this one, it's kind of like every, you know, every cramp I feel or every, you know, it's always.
Nick
Like, there are definitely some scary nights. Yeah.
Natalie (pregnant wife)
Yeah, there's been some scary nights.
Amir
Yeah.
Natalie (pregnant wife)
But, yeah, very present and just very grateful for every piece of good news that we get. Like, leaning on the scientific side of everything has made the losses feel a little bit easier.
Sierra
I was going to ask is how has it been processing the difference between the pregnancies and especially having the. To do these injections and whatnot? But I'm like, obviously very much worth it.
Natalie (pregnant wife)
Totally worth it. I think the shots early on, before I was showing, you know, before I felt them kick or flutter or anything, it's like a still is, you know, a daily reminder of, like, everything that we've lost. But I think we see miscarriages and everyone sees this differently, Everyone processes this differently. But I've always seen it as like, the baby wasn't ready to come, and so we got two of our three. So I think that makes it easier to process and kind of move through this pregnancy with a little bit more joy and hope.
Nick
Well, listen, I think it's just, you know, kind of like what I said on Tuesday's episode. You just never know what life. Life brings you. And. And we wouldn't be in this position that we are today, you know, if some of these. Some of these tragedies that we experience hadn't happened. And it's not like you. You're not glad for those tragedies, but, like, it, you know, life has a way of working itself out. So I think we're just very grateful for, you know, the position we're in right now.
Sierra
I also think that information, I mean, it's going to be so helpful for a lot of people because I think a lot of the times you kind of. A lot of people generalize the ideas of miscarriages as if it's just something that happens where it's like, oh, there's the science behind it is like, oh, because of your blood type or whatever it may be, where I'm like, I think that that's really pertinent information for people to know that. It's like, hey, like, maybe we do need to go see a specialist and figure this out. And it's not just a me problem. You know what I mean? That it's like it is. There is a solution to it.
Leia
You know, Natalie, I think you're so brave and it's so, you know, great that you are sharing this publicly because, you know, like you said, the doctor tested for something that they don't even test for anymore. And you discovered this blood thing that you. You couldn't even have imagined existed. And. And it's possible that somebody listening here has the same thing and they would not have known to even test for it. So thank you for sharing. Yeah.
Justin
Yeah.
Nick
It's hard not to make it feel so fortuitous for, you know, twins, given everything that happened.
Sierra
Seems I'm excited for the chaos happening at Yalls house.
Natalie
Yeah.
Natalie (pregnant wife)
Oh, my God.
Leia
Are you prepared?
Nick
A little overwhelming, you know, it's like.
Mary
I don't know how this might be far ahead. Are you going to like, do the thing where you dress them all? Where you dress both of them 100%. But like, are you going to choose like different colors for each of them or are they going to be like.
Leia
Exactly.
Nick
We will be dressing the same constantly.
Sierra
That rocks you two as well.
Natalie (pregnant wife)
Yes, you two and River. We will all be dress five of them, same outfit.
Mary
The Von Trapp family.
Leia
Same with Steve and Jeff, everybody.
Natalie (pregnant wife)
Steve and Jeff will also be included.
Leia
What are they gonna do?
Sierra
I'm predicting in your future a lot of trips to amusement parks.
Natalie (pregnant wife)
Oh, my God.
Mary
One day you guys are gonna be able to watch the Danny DeVito and Arnold Schwarzenegger movie Twins with them.
Leia
There she goes.
Natalie (pregnant wife)
There she is. Hi, Mare.
Mary
That's all I have to say.
Sierra
I need a cinematic reference than my lips now sealed.
Justin
Well, congrats.
Natalie
Yes.
Leia
So, so happy for you guys. I'm just. Yeah, Twins is. Is. Is amazing.
Mary
I'm.
Leia
I'm sure it's going to be a handful and a lot to deal with and not going to be easy, but.
Nick
It'S nice to be able to finally just tell people, too. Because at first it was, like, scary. At first we told some friends and then it's just like, obviously with finding out, you know, twins are coming, it's, like, overwhelming and scary and how, like, how you're. You're excited, but you're just like, how do we execute?
Natalie
Yeah.
Natalie (pregnant wife)
Like, we're going from one to three children.
Leia
I can imagine it's the only thing you're thinking about, like, yeah.
Nick
Doing the show. And like, we've, you know, we travel a lot for work and we've, you know, we're very lucky to be as busy as we are. And we've really, especially with river, we really focused on obviously being present parents and being involved, but, like, continuing our very exciting, very busy life.
Leia
Yeah.
Nick
And we certainly hope to do that, as everyone does. But when kid, you know, it's like, I don't, you know, you don't know how your life's going to change or how you're, you know, how you're going to be able to manage, you know, your. Your current way of life with. With when. When two more kids show up.
Natalie (pregnant wife)
I've definitely been, like, leaning on a lot of moms with twins of, like, asking them their processes and, like, what they're doing, because it's like, if it feels impossible, you know, it feels for someone who is going from one to three twins. Like, the idea of it and every video I've seen is like, I wish I could hug the version of me that was so scared of this. And it's like the mom, like, breastfeeding both of her twins or, like, just crushing it. She's got such a routine and schedule with them and, like, she's like, I wish I could hug that version of me that was, like, terrified and thought I couldn't do this, you know, and we were obviously just in Mexico and it felt like everyone we talked to there randomly also had twins. And so we were, like, picking their brain of like, yeah, I met this.
Nick
Lovely couple on the beach who asked to take a picture with us. They're like, would you like us to take a picture?
Natalie (pregnant wife)
Family photo.
Nick
Family photo.
Natalie (pregnant wife)
And she had her belly out at my. Yeah. So she asked me when I was due. I asked when she was due and then she was due before me. And I'm like, well, I'm having twins. That's why I'm so much bigger than you are. She just had the sweetest, tiniest little bump and she was like, oh, my gosh our 3 year olds are twins. And then we were like, how. What have you been?
Leia
You're gonna start noticing this everywhere, though. It's like when you're looking for a car and there's like a car on your mind, you just start seeing it everywhere.
Sierra
I was gonna say your ex boyfriend's car.
Nick
Yeah, it's like, why does everyone drive this car?
Sierra
A Ford experience explorer from 2008.
Bailey Taylor
How original.
Leia
Well, I could give you my mom's number and I'm happy to talk to River. My. My parents got me a dog as my twin, but you already have two.
Natalie (pregnant wife)
So unfortunately can't get another one. I think we'll get her a cat.
Leia
I don't know.
Natalie (pregnant wife)
We'll have to get.
Mary
Get her a cat.
Leia
You're gonna have to get her her own twin.
Nick
Eventually this will be good for her. Like, my sister was real pissed when.
Natalie (pregnant wife)
I showed up and she's still pissed that you're around.
Mary
I do think there is something so beaut. A family with siblings who have like, differences or like, for me, like, there's such like a age gap between me and my siblings, and it created such a different and special relationship with me and them. And I feel like with twins, like, to be the single person and to be like someone with twins as siblings, that also creates kind of like this really interesting and special dynamic where it's like river gets her like little twins. You know what I mean? Like, it's really sweet.
Sierra
You're getting two baby dolls.
Natalie
I know.
Natalie (pregnant wife)
And she's so funny because she obviously, like, we talk, we tell her there's like the ultrasound pictures on the fridge and we'll be like, river, how many babies are in mama's belly? And she goes, one, two babies. She carries two baby dolls around. You know, like she's.
Leia
Oh, did you get her little baby baby twins for her birthday?
Natalie (pregnant wife)
I got her the Barbie set that has two twins. And it's like two cribs and it's two. It's like the. I think it's called Skipper Babysitter. But yeah, she like, will carry around two baby dolls and she's just.
Leia
I'm really happy for you guys. This is so exciting.
Nick
But now I can just, you know, she's been really. I've been really sucking in over here on the show.
Natalie (pregnant wife)
I've been sitting like this. I've been like, now you can let it all out. Let them out.
Leia
Let it out, mama.
Natalie (pregnant wife)
Let them out.
Nick
Let it out, Mama. We are very grateful and appreciate all the support we do have. Once again. A fantastic, fantastic episode lined up for y'. All. Bailey Taylor from the new season of Summer House. She is a new cast member replaced.
Leia
Replacing the other Bailey.
Nick
The other Bailey, who was in a.
Natalie (pregnant wife)
Fake relationship, had a secret boyfriend and.
Nick
Lexi, who came and went with a bang.
Leia
Love, Lexi. I think she did it perfectly.
Nick
She did it. She did it lovely. But now we have Bailey to kick off this season. It was a fun first episode.
Bailey Taylor
Yeah.
Leia
I like all the new cast.
Nick
Kyle and Amanda really are going to give us their divorce season.
Natalie (pregnant wife)
It is hard to watch.
Nick
They hate each other.
Natalie (pregnant wife)
Like, I know it's always been like this, but it just now knowing that they're separated, they're not even pretending.
Sierra
It's just.
Natalie (pregnant wife)
Yeah. And it's like the most uncomfortable. I can't imagine sitting at the table and like being around them, let alone like, us, like we're watching it on tv.
Mary
I can't.
Nick
Obviously we'll talk about it, but is there a world where you guys are just grateful that Kyle and Amanda are willing to show this?
Mary
Absolutely. I want to see all this.
Nick
Are we willing to, to offer them both a little grace given? Just like relationships are hard and you know, obviously we have our opinions about choices that some of them are making in the marriage.
Natalie (pregnant wife)
I think everyone deserves grace.
Nick
Yes. But I just like, they're about to.
Natalie (pregnant wife)
Give us a great season.
Nick
A great season via their pain. I mean, truly, like, they're. That's not, you know, a divorce hard, you know.
Natalie (pregnant wife)
Well, they weren't divorcing while filming. They were still it.
Nick
I don't think. These things don't just happen overnight. I just, I don't, I don't see. I don't think that they showed up to this season throwing these types of jabs at each other if they didn't really think this was coming.
Sierra
We did watch Amanda be like, I just want to have like a passion project. And then Kyle go on a full on rant, call her a bitch and be like, well, then I'm going to start a dj. It's like as if it was some sort of facetious joke. And the next thing you know, he's a fucking DJ and cares more about his DJ career than his marriage.
Justin
To Nick's point though, there's a little bit of like a filter that's been dropped and you can see them actually like speak what they're both feeling. Yeah.
Natalie (pregnant wife)
They're not pretending anymore for sure.
Sierra
I don't know. I'm still thinking season two summer should be fun. Amanda not fun while she's sobbing.
Natalie (pregnant wife)
Yeah. That's true. He has always been like this.
Leia
The only difference is that now what we're seeing is that Amanda's over. It's not taking the shit anymore.
Natalie (pregnant wife)
Do we think next season it'll be single Amanda?
Nick
And by next season you mean in the city?
Sierra
I was like, or do we. One will stay in the city and one will summer house.
Natalie (pregnant wife)
Definitely staying in summer house. For sure.
Leia
I think, I think Sierra and Amanda are kind of like, you know, I think they'll go out together or stay together.
Sierra
I think Sierra needs to make the jump to the city, give us a modern day sex in the city for the women and then send it with Kyle in summer house.
Nick
We also have Amir and Natasha from the Valley Persian style to join us later this episode as well. The Valley Persian style is really, it's, it's good, it's good. It's. You guys are all catching on. We're very, very glad. We jumped on board fast. And it seems like most many of you are catching along to the awesomeness that is the Valley of Persian style. And we are excited to have Amir and Natasha to talk about their time on the show. Also, do not forget to check out Vile files. Plus everything is ad free now, including your update specials where you get updates on your favorite ethnic colors, your deep dives into your favorite rally TV shows and characters like who's braun fucking these days? You know what I'm saying?
Mary
Like, which we'll get.
Nick
Oh, God, she's Brawin is my hero. And they're your pop extras where we get into some pop culture topics that we didn't cover on reality recap. Go to vilefiles.com and check it out. You'll be glad that you did. Anyway, Brahwen is out there. She's dating. She's got a man. Finally we have a single housewife who is out there dating some hotties. Getting her groove on. Getting her groove back.
Mary
Yeah.
Natalie (pregnant wife)
Also I love that she is dating this model, Brandon, good for a few weeks.
Nick
Yeah.
Natalie (pregnant wife)
And they're like in the comments, like back and forth to each other, being cheeky, going out in public. She's like, I sorry, this may work.
Nick
It may not work. I don't know.
Natalie (pregnant wife)
I don't care. I'm going out. We're getting in public. I'm not hiding with him. I'm going out.
Justin
I didn't see any photos of them until I saw it be announced. And then the second it got announced, it was like Christian Sirianna posting stories. Everybody with both I want to see.
Nick
And sneak A couple hottie model. Men or women? Whatever. Whatever she wants, honestly.
Amir
Doesn't matter.
Nick
1, 2, 3. Into a girls trip. I want that Bob coming out of whatever hotel room. Just disheveled.
Mary
Activated.
Nick
Just activated. Just a little glow of sweat, you know? So what are we fighting about?
Mary
She's gonna do something Heather Gay never could.
Leia
As excited as Nick is, Mary was devastated by this.
Amir
Oh.
Mary
When I got this information.
Natalie
Yeah.
Mary
Hey, listeners, by the way, I really want to get my. I. I made a Bronwyn and Whitney, good luck, babe fan cam. I'm trying to get it to 100k on Instagram.
Nick
How's it doing?
Mary
95. Oh, it's doing good. The people want to see it, and so I was kind of bummed. When can we.
Natalie (pregnant wife)
Can you make.
Nick
Can you make a new one for Brian and her new man?
Leia
Oh, it's going to.
Sierra
That goes against her religion.
Leia
Her heart's not in that.
Nick
Celebrate her love.
Leia
Mary. Mary, you can make a fan cam about, like. Like, how he came in and disrupted the relationship. That could have been.
Mary
No.
Nick
When it's gonna be a crying in.
Leia
The corner, Whitney crying, Whitney crying in the corner.
Mary
It's gonna be. No, because this isn't about me. This is about Whitney for sure.
Sierra
For sure.
Mary
And so what it's gonna be is it's gonna be Bronwyn and her new man, and then. And, like, I'll cut to and edit it so it looks like Whitney's just like, yes.
Leia
That's what. Yeah.
Mary
And then it's going to be the subway by chapter four.
Leia
Then you have Nick being like.
Nick
I'm just so happy. I'm so happy for her. You know, like, divorce is separation. It's hard. And fans can be mean. And I've seen some mean stuff out there. Talking about our girl Rowan, and for her to just, like, embrace the single life, go out there, live her best life. Don't know what's going on with her and Todd, but obviously, like, I think just say good for her. Like, I just. I'm happy that she's happy and she's having fun, and we just do not get to see a lot of housewives who are single, like, bring us into this part of their world, and I think it's fun.
Sierra
You said, dorit, take notes.
Nick
Yes, Dorit.
Mary
You said, I want to know that the housewives are getting, like, piped down.
Nick
Your words, not mine.
Sierra
How do you think Todd handled this news?
Natalie (pregnant wife)
I mean, I do hope that he was on a date.
Sierra
That's what I think.
Natalie
Yeah.
Sierra
I hope that it wasn't his cousin. I hope that he was the first one to have to go out on a date and that it's like they're both separated.
Nick
And I want them all to be happy.
Natalie (pregnant wife)
Me too.
Sierra
Todd needs somebody that's not on reality tv. And Bronwyn needs somebody that, like, will go to every fashion show. Maybe he's even in the fashion show in the mid.
Natalie (pregnant wife)
She's first front row.
Justin
I do think the Roni, the E. Show that they just announced, Golden Life, is probably going to be this. It's in Palm beach, but it's going to be them all. They're all single.
Sierra
I don't know.
Justin
They're all dating.
Mary
It's going to be awesome.
Justin
Hot rich people, probably.
Sierra
Mona and Sonia Morgan return.
Mary
I am not a trophy wife.
Nick
I'm telling you guys. After you. This new hit show called Age of Attraction that's coming out on Netflix March 11, we're really gonna be supporting our adult queens who may want to dabble.
Natalie (pregnant wife)
So true.
Nick
In the young hot model men arena.
Natalie (pregnant wife)
So true.
Nick
I mean, and I think if that is for you, God bless.
Sierra
Get in it, get in it. Get in it.
Nick
Go have some fun.
Mary
Go have some fun. Let people have fun.
Nick
You know, the boys have been doing it for centuries. It's now time.
Mary
Exactly. Girlies, have fun.
Natalie (pregnant wife)
Do whatever you want.
Natalie
Yeah, yeah.
Natalie (pregnant wife)
You know who's having a lot of fun right now? Brittany Bateman on American Idol.
Mary
Oh, yeah.
Natalie (pregnant wife)
She said, and do you know who I am? And it was crickets.
Leia
There's nobody, though, who could recover from that better than Brittany Bateman.
Sierra
So true. Actually, she said she loves a bit.
Leia
Brittany is okay.
Mary
She's gonna commit to a bit being.
Leia
The butt of the joke.
Natalie (pregnant wife)
She said, I'm Brittany Bateman. You know who I am.
Leia
She said, I have an announcement. And they were all like, like gay.
Natalie (pregnant wife)
Carrie Underwood said, she has a knife. And she does have a knife. So we gotta say, good thing I.
Sierra
Met you somewhere before.
Justin
Before she walked in, they were like, why do you have a glass?
Sierra
What?
Justin
And she's like, you'll know.
Mary
They're like this. This is the wrong network.
Leia
We.
Mary
We don't.
Natalie (pregnant wife)
Do you think she has copyrighted. I have an announcement.
Sierra
Ting, ting, ting.
Leia
She's doing.
Nick
That might be tough. That might be tough.
Mary
Ting, ting, ting.
Justin
It is very vague. Yeah.
Nick
Fairly common.
Sierra
And I'm also curious what she's gonna do with this trademark of high body count hair.
Nick
Probably nothing.
Sierra
Probably just nothing.
Mary
She probably just got it to be petty.
Nick
Yeah, yeah.
Justin
Sell it to Angie.
Nick
She got hair time.
Natalie
Yeah.
Leia
Yeah, but no, she was on a marriage idol. She was there with her niece who was auditioning, and they sang together.
Sierra
But why did they sing together if her niece was auditioning?
Natalie (pregnant wife)
Yeah, I didn't feel like it was necessarily a duet moment.
Sierra
Yeah.
Leia
Yeah. I don't know. I mean, I think that they brought her on for the bit and she had to sing if she was going there.
Sierra
Yeah, she's saying her name. I just kind of felt like Denise's auditions, look, sounded really good and she played the piano. But then there was, like, moments where, like, they were both singing together, and I was like, I don't know. That's how it's supposed to sound.
Justin
I thought the tune was good.
Natalie (pregnant wife)
I don't know if that's how the song goes.
Leia
You know what I mean?
Mary
Maybe it was just creative choice here.
Justin
It was giving cabaret. It was giving live in the moment.
Sierra
It's giving, like, kind of cheating too, you know, like, cheating. Like, if she's not gonna participate, I'm gonna help you audition.
Natalie (pregnant wife)
Yeah.
Leia
This was really good, though. I really liked her voice.
Sierra
Did she get through?
Leia
I think she got the golden ticket. And then Ryan Seacrest was like, are you still dating Jared?
Sierra
No.
Natalie (pregnant wife)
No way.
Nick
Oh, so someone new.
Justin
They had to know.
Natalie (pregnant wife)
Ryan, give a heads up.
Nick
It's giving. I don't know who you are, but I know you are.
Sierra
Ryan Seacrest knows who you're dating.
Nick
Are you gonna be on American Idol now?
Leia
We will see. I mean, we posted our. Our cut down.
Mary
We talked about it on pop and posted a cut down about it.
Leia
Please tune into pop. We talk about fun things. We posted a cut down of our conversation about American Idol and American Idol reach out. Got into the DMs.
Mary
Well, American Idol commented, and then I put on our story. How do we get Leia on American Idol?
Justin
Because the cut down was trying to goad us to say, can you sing?
Nick
Then I can show up as, like.
Sierra
Are you gonna do.
Nick
And I'll be like, do you know who I am? And they'll be like, no.
Natalie
Yes.
Leia
And then you'll sing with me.
Sierra
Well, then you have to say instead of like, Nick Viall, you'd be like, do you want to be right or do you want to be happy?
Leia
Anyways, so we'll see. I don't know if I want to embarrass myself on Leah, an amazing.
Nick
What's your karaoke voice?
Leia
Well, it is Celine Dion or something. No, my karaoke song is can you.
Nick
Sing A whole new world.
Leia
What is that song? It's system of a down.
Mary
Oh, wake up.
Leia
Yes.
Nick
That's your song.
Bailey Taylor
Yes.
Leia
Because that's awesome to joke around and have fun and I'm not actually ever like, you know, I'd probably do like.
Mary
Leah, we should do an Islands in the Stream duet at karaoke one time. That would be really funny.
Leia
We'll see. I don't know.
Natalie (pregnant wife)
We'll.
Leia
We'll see where this plot goes. I'll keep you all apprised.
Nick
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Nick
L t h.com Bailey Taylor, welcome to the show.
Justin
Hi.
Bailey Taylor
Thank you so much for having me.
Nick
Super excited to have you. Congratulations on being a part of the summer house cast. It was a fun first episode.
Bailey Taylor
It was a fun first weekend. It was crazy.
Sierra
I'm enjoying you so much.
Nick
We. We were all discussing the worst places we've been broken up with sweet greens. Pretty epic. Well, for me, it was her, like, describing how he had his bags packed.
Leia
Yeah.
Bailey Taylor
And she's just like, looking outside and seeing the suitcases and like, we lived.
Natalie (pregnant wife)
Together leaving the suitcases on the street in New York City.
Nick
What a drama king.
Natalie (pregnant wife)
It's like gold.
Bailey Taylor
Yes. Very bold. And then like, I went outside and I was just like, shaking. And then he just like wheeled the suitcases away and just kind of like walked away from me. It was like the lack of explanation. I just was like, it was the most blind sighting. Weird thing.
Nick
How long were you guys together?
Bailey Taylor
Two years.
Nick
Wow.
Natalie (pregnant wife)
And have you heard from him since?
Bailey Taylor
We've talked since. But it just like, it was such a horrible relationship that. It was. It's just. It's not.
Leia
Did he reach out to you after seeing the episode?
Nick
Yeah.
Bailey Taylor
No, he will. There's a 0% chance he would ever watch it. I know that for sure.
Natalie (pregnant wife)
Well, you know someone in his life. Yes, definitely.
Nick
He will be finding out for sure. He knows. He knows who he is. Well, after my family and I went and saw the Mighty Ducks at a budget theater, we got home and they played the answering machine. Yeah, I know it was a while ago.
Leia
On your family's landline.
Amir
Yeah.
Nick
And the message was, nick, this is Kelly. You're dumped.
Natalie (pregnant wife)
Not in front of the whole cold blooded.
Bailey Taylor
That might even be worse. At least it was in person.
Nick
I was in the sixth grade, so in fairness to her, she.
Natalie (pregnant wife)
In fairness to her, she couldn't drive.
Sierra
She didn't want the drama at school.
Natalie (pregnant wife)
Yeah, she didn't eat salads.
Bailey Taylor
I like that Kelly knew what she wanted in sixth grade.
Sierra
You know, she was like, not you respect Kelly.
Natalie (pregnant wife)
And honestly, Kelly's loss is my game.
Nick
Bailey, how did you. How did you being on Summer House come to be?
Bailey Taylor
So one of my friends, I had known Amanda through our friend Dylan. And then another friend of mine posted something about, like, the casting and looking for best friends. And I was like, okay, this could be fun. I already know Dylan. I know Amanda through Dylan. This could be cute. And then they kind of were like, who is your best friend? Do you have someone that, like, you genuinely would want to be here with? And I was like, it absolutely would be Levi. It has to be Levi. Because anybody else would be disingenuous. Like, this is my true sister in this world. And yeah, just kind of like it came together very quickly and it was very exciting. And I was so grateful to have Kyle and Amanda there just to like, kind of ground it a little bit and just kind of like make me feel more comfortable. But it was such a wild summer. Oh, my gosh, it was just absolutely wild.
Nick
Well, speaking of Kyle and Amanda, obviously the news of their separation has been out and then we get to see this first episode and they. They really seem to be prepared to give us their divorce season. There was certainly some awkward moments watching it. I am curious, what was it like for you being in the house and seeing your friends?
Natalie (pregnant wife)
Kind of when he's like, she's not listening. And she's like, I'm so jealous. I wake up every morning filled with jealousy. And he's like, what are you talking about?
Mary
I was like, this is crazy.
Nick
Anyways, what was it like for you?
Bailey Taylor
It was more sad for me than, like. Than anything else. I just. I feel like it's always sad. Just. I don't know, you're watching two people that love each other, but it just, like, can't. It isn't clicking and working at that time. So it's just. It was more sad to me than anything. I just, like, I felt bad. I want them both to be happy and I just respect them and love them both. So it was just for me as a friend, it was just kind of. It's just more sad to watch your friends go through something like that than anything.
Nick
Well, since you're friends with both of them. I, you know, I, we were talking about this before, you know, you know, people will obviously have their opinions and talk about this breakup and yada, yada, yada, and take sides and as, as we do. And I think a lot of people, it's. I think it's. It's easy for a lot of people to empathize with Amanda's point of view. And I think a lot of people are struggling with Kyle's point of view because it's just like, yo, you're, you're kind of choosing this lifestyle, but like, as someone who's friends with both of them, do you have empathy for, for Kyle's point of view or do you understand his position in a way that maybe the audience isn't getting, or are you kind of seeing what we're seeing?
Bailey Taylor
I feel like I'm just really grateful that they're in such a good place now that it's just like, I feel like everyone's kind of come to a mutual understanding at this point where it's like they, they seem to just be doing really, really well and kind of like come to a place of mutual understanding. So I feel like if they can come to a place of mutual understanding and be good together, then so can I. But I truly just want them both to be happy. And I, I love Amanda and I want her to thrive. And I got my girls back for sure. But they're both, if they're both good, there's really nothing, you know.
Natalie (pregnant wife)
Well, we do see in the trailer, you and Carl getting a little touchy feely. Is there any moment that maybe you are nervous about airing?
Bailey Taylor
No, there's nothing I'm nervous for. Carl is a wonderful, adorable person. I am. I have nothing but so much love for Carl. So I, I love making out with Carl and will make out with Carl anytime. So I am not nervous at all. I will scream my love for Carl from the rooftops.
Nick
Well, it's a very single house other than right now. Connell. Amanda, going into this house, were you hoping for a showmance open to A showmance? Were there any of the boys there that you were fancying at all?
Bailey Taylor
I was. I was just like, I've been single for so long, I've had this traumatizing breakup that clearly was like, like just ailing me. And I really hadn't dated at all since the breakup. So I was just kind of like, I was just excited to like, have fun and let loose and just kind of like rediscover that feeling, and I feel like I did that. And the boys are great. There was some that, like, definitely. It was like, you're my friend. Instant vibes. And then, yes, there's definitely some. Like, there's some hotties in that house. So, yes, I definitely have. There's a lot of flirtation and me learning how to, like, get back out there. I was very trepidatious to do so. And so I really, like. Like, I really try to, like, open up and let men in again and. And see the good in them. And Carl is just a sweet, sweet human being who I'm very lucky to have met.
Sierra
So you didn't want to just eat shrimp and die alone?
Bailey Taylor
There were times.
Leia
A great line.
Bailey Taylor
There were times when it got overwhelming. Yeah. There were times when I was like, I can't handle this, but. And I was like, I just. There's too many dynamics. But I did try to put myself out there.
Sierra
But.
Natalie (pregnant wife)
Yeah.
Nick
Ciara said on watch what happens live that West's ass looks really great in jeans, and I'm just wondering if you can confirm deny and out of.
Bailey Taylor
Oh, west has. Does look great. West has. Looks great all the time. West does have a great ass.
Mary
Does he have the best ass of summer house?
Nick
Ooh.
Amir
Ooh.
Bailey Taylor
I might say yes. I might say yes. I think Ben probably has the best abs. Or kj. Ben and KJ both, like, there's some really major app moments going on. But, yeah, Wes does have a really cute butt.
Nick
And KJ, he's really giving. Australian Matthew McConaughey is.
Justin
Ben.
Leia
Ben.
Sierra
Ben.
Bailey Taylor
Ben is literally the definition of Australian Matthew McConaughey.
Leia
I.
Bailey Taylor
That was like, literally, I had met him for five minutes, and I was like, okay. Australian Matthew McConaughey is looking at me, and I don't know how to handle it.
Leia
Did you go back and watch his bachelor season?
Bailey Taylor
No. No, because he said not to. He didn't want us to. He said, like, it wasn't a strong representation of him, and so I wanted to be, like, respectful of that. It's like when you know someone in person. Like, I. I know him. So I was just like, okay, if it. If you feel like this really isn't a good representation. He said he kind of, like, fro. And it just didn't. It wasn't him. So, no, I did not watch it.
Leia
You're a good friend for doing that.
Bailey Taylor
You're stunning, man.
Natalie (pregnant wife)
He's stunning.
Nick
Did you. What. What else can you tease of this season? Will we. Are we. Are we bringing anyone home late at night, we get.
Bailey Taylor
We get wild. I like, I. That is. The thing I can tease is that this season is truly just wild. And I was like a girl with a mission. I just was like, I need to make out and I need to have fun and I need to love to hang out with boys. And so I really. I was putting myself out there.
Nick
I was going into the house. I mean, speaking of last season, Lexi and Bailey. Bailey didn't last very long. Lexi had a phenomenal season, but it was kind of full of controversy. She didn't really seem to connect with the rest of the women. There was a lot of kind of discourse about how, you know, whether the women could have been more welcoming to her going into this house. Did you have any anxiety or fears about just, you know, this is an OG cast. Many of people, they're friends. It didn't, again, go very well for. For the newbies last season. What was that experience like for you? And. Yeah, did you have any nerves going in?
Bailey Taylor
I was definitely very nervous, and it is.
Natalie (pregnant wife)
I.
Bailey Taylor
Knowing Amanda, I had a little bit of a leg up because it wasn't just like. Like I said, I had that comfort of her and Kyle just kind of knowing they were there. But it's a scary experience just to go in and to go into a share house with people who have known each other that long, and you're, like, learning, this person dated this person and this person likes this person and this person doesn't like this one, and this is this, and you're just kind of overwhelmed with all the dynamics and. But I had a very positive experience with the girls. I'm just like a. I'm a girls girl through and through. So I just right off the jump was just like, in there with the girls, and I had my best friend, so it was also, like, I had her to lean on. So I was very lucky that I had that experience of having Levi with me because it's like, no matter what's happening, her and I can just bop around and dance and be silly, goofy, crazy. So I had a very positive experience as a newbie and especially with the women. Like, we really bonded and kind of like, look at the men and are like, wow, they make some very questionable decisions. So I was really, like, with them and being like, yeah, no, that's. They're insane. So I was. I was team girl. Very much so. So I had a great, positive experience with all of them.
Justin
Do you know why they did bring in more newbies this season compared to last season's?
Bailey Taylor
I don't that was not told to me in any way. So I actually do not know. We every. We were surprised with things and surprised with newbies just like everyone else is going to be. So we did not have any insight as to anything. Like it was a genuine surprise the entire time.
Natalie (pregnant wife)
Who threw the best party this summer?
Leia
Ooh, the first party.
Bailey Taylor
I mean, loved the first party because that there, there was so much more of like the pie. The pie was so fun. Everybody ping each other was hilarious. And then just like there was so much dancing. But I would say Sierra throws the best party.
Sierra
Hell yeah.
Mary
Good.
Sierra
Sierra for the girls and west for the guys. Maybe.
Natalie (pregnant wife)
Maybe that sounds about right.
Sierra
What I'd like to see when the.
Nick
Season comes to an end, what do you think the fans will be saying most about you?
Bailey Taylor
That I cry a lot.
Nick
Okay. Thanks for the heads up.
Bailey Taylor
I cry a lot. And that I am truly an open book. I really just like have this thing where I compulsively say every thought that comes to my brain and I can't help myself.
Nick
What are you thinking about right now?
Bailey Taylor
Now how amazing and fun this is.
Nick
She's telling the truth.
Bailey Taylor
So excited for everyone to see this summer just because I just know that like, that was just such a taste of how crazy and wild and just like the. I. I can't describe it to anybody. I'm just like, it was wild. Like we just keep the party going and we go out so much and it was just like. It was just like a non stop party fest that I'm like, I'm just so excited for people to see it because I just think they're gonna have a really fun time. And there's just really like beautiful bonding moments where the house really like feels like a family and just really hysterical moments that are just outlandish that I'm excited for people to get to see. So I am. That's what I'm thinking about is don't spoil anything. But I just want everyone to know wild at all times.
Nick
Before we let you go, Bailey, we're gonna play a little game.
Bailey Taylor
Game, love.
Nick
And based on this season, give us one word to describe what we should expect from the rest of your cast members.
Justin
Okay.
Bailey Taylor
I can just pick any word.
Nick
We're going to go. Yeah, any word you want. Just one adjective to describe these cast members and what. And what we will think and feel or about their experience. Starting with Mr. Jesse Solomon.
Bailey Taylor
He's really one of the girls. I know it's not a girl.
Sierra
Really.
Bailey Taylor
Just one for the. For the girls in A different way this season. I feel like, you know what?
Mary
Honestly, like he learned his lesson.
Nick
I love that. Yeah, I love that for Jesse. He's like, I'm going.
Bailey Taylor
He was like a. He was like a big brother. He was very much like there for everybody and just like he. Yeah, he's one for the girls in a different Jesse Solomon way this season.
Nick
He walked in, he was like, him.
Natalie (pregnant wife)
Yeah.
Bailey Taylor
He's like, these men are despicable.
Nick
Sierra open.
Bailey Taylor
Levi fun west crazy party animal.
Nick
Lindsay milf.
Bailey Taylor
Okay, let's go hard MILF energy. I can say that she is ready to like, like she's a milf. Beyond kj sweet. Amanda, vulnerable. Carl, amazing. Mia, collected. Dara, flirty.
Sierra
Ben hot.
Nick
And Kyle.
Bailey Taylor
Struggling.
Nick
Bailey, we appreciate you taking the time. Really excited to see this season unfold for you. Please let our audience know where they can follow you and enjoy anything that you're doing outside of Summer House.
Bailey Taylor
They can follow me @baileyttaylor on Instagram it girl the series and I have a fun little podcast surprise coming soon as well.
Nick
All right, hear it. Well, check it out. Bailey, appreciate you and we'll talk soon. Good luck the rest of the way.
Bailey Taylor
Thank you guys.
Mary
Bye. Love her.
Justin
Love her.
Natalie (pregnant wife)
Yeah. Well, we do have a rapid recap for Summer House. If you missed the premiere episode. We are back, baby. And Amanda already wants to drive out with Sierra instead of Kyle. There's a new guy who's also from Kansas City and is a skater. Welcome, kj. We all think you're really hot. And also two new girls, Bailey and Levi, who were immediate besties. Amanda is still pissed that Kyle is a dj. Sierra has decided she's not going to eat west alive this summer because she's trying to be less risky.
Sierra
Rigid.
Natalie (pregnant wife)
Jesse wants to be a bedbug with Sierra and Amanda now that Paige is gone. Kyle lost his wedding ring so Amanda won't wear hers until he gets a new one, which could mean nothing. Bailey just got out of a two year relationship and got broken up with at a sweet green after the guy cheated on her. But she is very excited about this summer. There's also a new guy named Ben. He's Australian and was also on the Australian Bachelor, which is like regular bachelor but instead of roses, you get to wrestle a giant scorpion. Whoever wins falls in love anyway. Carl feels like him and Kyle aren't close anymore because he's too into DJing. Him and Sierra are also still have that flirty thing going on. West wants to not put any expectations on his friendship with Sierra and See what happens. And it seems like so does Sierra. The Internet is telling Amanda to divorce Kyle, and now she's confused. But then Amanda skinny dips and Kyle freaks the fuck out. Welcome home.
Nick
If you ever take a road trip with, like, we, like, a group of friends, and we're all like, road trip. And you're like, I'm going to not ride with you. I'm definitely going to be worried.
Natalie (pregnant wife)
There's a guy's car. There's a guy's car. Girls car. Why do I want to sit with Jesse and Carl when I can be with my girls?
Mary
So true. I'm always trying to be with.
Nick
There's just no way right now. You would do that right now.
Leia
Okay, if we were going on a. On a road trip, even just with work, right? And it was you, Justin, Jack, and Kyle in a car, and then it was me, Sierra, Mary, and me.
Natalie (pregnant wife)
You would be like, natalie, you need.
Sierra
To ride with me. Yes.
Amir
Yeah.
Nick
Yes.
Natalie (pregnant wife)
You would make me be in there with all stinky boys.
Justin
I mean, you're stinky. Correction. I wouldn't be with. I wouldn't be with the boys in the first place.
Leia
Justin. Actually.
Natalie
That is true.
Leia
Justin would be in our car and it would be.
Justin
Y' all can take Mary.
Natalie (pregnant wife)
Trayvon.
Sierra
Trayvon. Kyle.
Justin
Kyle.
Bailey Taylor
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Natalie (pregnant wife)
Nick.
Justin
I would sit with Nick. I have no issue with Nick.
Nick
Oh, thank God.
Leia
Whoa.
Natalie (pregnant wife)
No, I think it. That's. I think it was valid for, like, girls car. I think if it was, like, if Kyle had to drive alone, then, like, that's not very nice. You're gonna make him drive alone for two hours, sit in traffic. But, like, he's got his friends with.
Leia
Him, like, especially for the first episode where you're introducing two new women and it's like, they're all gonna bond and like, yeah, girl chat.
Sierra
It seems like all he cared about was his DJ set anyways. He was like, amanda, can you check my DJ set?
Leia
Okay, cool.
Sierra
I just can't have it touching anything.
Nick
She really rose at him when she was describing how his DJ career started. And he's like, that's not how it went down.
Sierra
It was 100% accurate with the way that she turned.
Natalie (pregnant wife)
Did I lie?
Sierra
Like, no. And then they replayed the clip, and it's like, yes. You literally started this DJ career out of spite.
Leia
Guys, we talked about it when he started the DJ career, and we were all like, is he for real that he's doing, like. We talked about it even.
Nick
I mean, you got to respect his follow through, like, you know, playing it's.
Sierra
Like, yes and no, because the whole thing was that she wanted to start a bathing suit line because she didn't wanted her own thing outside of lover boy. And he was like, lover boy is our everything. We need to invest everything into it. And you're not committed.
Natalie (pregnant wife)
Have you distracted and not focused on lover.
Sierra
And look, he's just distracted now.
Nick
I mean, it's just the reality. It's like you want to again, have grace for. For both parties. But if. Like, if. Let's say Amanda called into ass Nick and she was like, hey, I've been married for how many years?
Justin
She's four years.
Sierra
Four or five.
Justin
I think she said four in that.
Sierra
She said they've been together for 10 years.
Mary
No, she said four long years. Four long years is what she said.
Nick
And then she's all of a sudden like, yeah, my husband. She's like, I'm ready for the next phase of my life, whatever that phase is, which is like, generally just maybe a little slower, a little bit more. More like connecting as far as a couple. And she's like, yeah, no, my. My husband just started pursuing a DJ career, and now he's gone, you know, four nights a week.
Natalie (pregnant wife)
The fact that he's. No, no, no. The fact that he said he had been gone. What did he say? Like, every night for the past 11.
Nick
Months, he just wants to press play.
Natalie (pregnant wife)
And then he. He was like. And she doesn't do anything.
Sierra
She doesn't even try when I'm here.
Natalie (pregnant wife)
And that.
Sierra
That pissed me off so bad because I was just like, all it says is that you get to do whatever you want. And now you expect Amanda to be the person to hold your relationship together, but you. You get to go fly, party, stay out late, do whatever you want to do, and then make her feel like shit because she stays home. Not enough Netflix and Chill. Okay? And then it's like, then you expect her to come home and be laying on the bed on rose petals, being like, oh, my God, I've missed you so much. And you can tell that his, like, frustration also has to do with the fact that he hasn't gotten laid in probably a long time.
Justin
Sierra, do you remember, like, two seasons ago when they were looking for houses for their family to settle down in the suburbs, and, like, look where we are now.
Natalie
Exactly.
Leia
He.
Sierra
He made that whole thing about her not being committed to lover boy, not being a good worker, and that's why she can'.
Nick
Have.
Sierra
Or, like, why they don't have a family yet is because she's not Ready. And it looks like the only person who's not ready to settle down and have a family is the one who just announced his DJ tour at colleges.
Natalie (pregnant wife)
That is crazy.
Sierra
He is, like, doing a tour of colleges.
Natalie (pregnant wife)
Colleges. Like, that is nuts.
Justin
You gotta start somewhere.
Natalie (pregnant wife)
I'll give him, no, it's not like you're out there.
Sierra
He DJs in Las Vegas. He DJs at pretty. Pretty big events.
Nick
He moved up quickly.
Leia
Yeah.
Sierra
And then he was like, you know, let's downgrade and hit on college girls while we get drunk.
Justin
Yeah, that part's a little, you know, nuts.
Leia
It's the lifestyle. It's like when they met and when they got married. This wasn't like, that's a big.
Sierra
This wasn't a part of it.
Natalie (pregnant wife)
Carl being like, are you still happy? And he's like, I'm happy when I'm entertaining people and I press play. That's when you're happy. Press play. Happiest. Yeah, the happiest.
Nick
It is.
Justin
It's.
Nick
It's.
Sierra
And seeing how it's tough to see his side and seeing how he, like, kind of paints it to where it's like he can't wait to badmouth Amanda behind her back to anybody who will listen instead of saying it to her face. And then gets mad when she responds that same way.
Natalie (pregnant wife)
No, Sierra, him in the master bedroom. Clearly no one's in there. He's talking to himself. Knows he's Mic Duff. Another time when she makes me feel invisible and I'm not hurt and she's making me feel this, it's like you're doing, like.
Nick
Well, he clearly isolated, thinks of himself as a bit of a victim in this situation. I am genuinely curious on how.
Sierra
On why and how he has everything he wants.
Leia
I have a question for you. You opened this conversation by asking. Asking. By saying that if Natalie didn't go in the car with you, that'd be weird, right? So I have a question. Every weekend, when Amanda wants to stay home and spend a Friday night in bed and Kyle decides to go partying with the boys and the other single women, what do you. What? What?
Nick
I mean, I think that's crazy. I think, honestly, just being a husband, it's. It's. It's a.
Amir
About.
Sierra
You made a promise.
Nick
You invest in that relationship, you make sacrifices. Sometimes the sacrifices, maybe, you know, you might want to do something else, but for the most time, it's not like a, I can't do this like you. I enjoy spending time with my wife and my kid, and I enjoy the lifestyle that I have now. And even though I've never been a big partier, like, you know, I still went out plenty in my 20s and early 30s, and now, like, I am glad life has slowed down, and it's not for, I guess, everybody. But, like, I. I enjoy doing things for my wife, and I enjoy the. You know, my love language is acts of service. Clearly, it's not Kyle's. I don't know what Kyle's love language is, but, yeah, it. No, it blows my mind. I don't know how words of affirmation. I don't know how you make a relationship.
Natalie (pregnant wife)
Definitely not quality time. Definitely not physical touch.
Sierra
But he's watching Kyle, like, spin it because it was, like, the original spin with, like, loverboy and why he was out all the time. It's like, hey, I have to talk to people. I have to get them invested in the product. I need to be the face I need to be. And then it's like, as everybody said this episode, it's like, you found another career.
Amir
Yeah.
Sierra
That could legitimize why you need to be out. But then to Amanda's point is that somebody's husband that's a DJ goes out, does his job, and then goes home.
Nick
He just works second shift.
Sierra
Yeah. He's just like, it's a job. And. And then Kyle's trying to be like, no, it's a lifestyle. And it's like, bro, it's a choice.
Leia
And you're making.
Nick
But the way he gets so mad. We're seeing clips of the upcoming season where Kyle clearly feels misunderstood. Not heard, not seen, not validated. And I'm curious why. Or is it just he Is. Is he that selfish and really thinks that, like, a marriage is about, you.
Sierra
Know, my wife sacrificing everything for me to be happy?
Nick
I mean, Kyle is giving the.
Amir
The.
Nick
His. His. His marriage dream is I get to pursue whatever professional thing I want and those in my dreams, I need to feel fulfilled. And I want a wife to support that, Support that. That welcome me when I get home. And when we. When I am ready for her, I want her to be present and invested and. And ready to go. Like.
Sierra
Like, him better be on a signup list for one of those AI robots.
Natalie (pregnant wife)
Then him waking her up after going out that night and being like, do you have an eye mask?
Amir
Oh, yeah.
Leia
I.
Sierra
You did not just wake up. Did you pack one?
Natalie
Sleep.
Natalie (pregnant wife)
I don't get up and look for one. I don't know. Like, why are you asking me?
Justin
He also sighs. Didn't He.
Sierra
Yeah, I need to go. All right, well, me then. Did you pack an eye mask also?
Justin
This. The what? When she took off her shirt and went in the pool. Oh.
Nick
Oh.
Leia
When he got mad, I was like.
Justin
Okay, this is like, way. Just like.
Natalie (pregnant wife)
Did you notice how Ben was the one to give her a towel when she was like, I need a towel there with his arms.
Leia
Well, there's something going on between Ben and. Oh, the way.
Mary
Oh, my God. Did you see the way he, like, picked her up? And like, that was hot as.
Amir
Yep.
Sierra
I was like, but wait, going back to this. This nude or whatever, she's in underwear and. And she gets wet sometimes. It's a little see through. Who gives a fuck? But I'm also kind of like, Kyle, I've seen more of your body on the 10 seasons of this show than I've ever seen of Amanda's boobs. I've seen Lindsay Hubbard's boobs. You guys played like. Like, strip, whatever that game is where you try to put the beanbag through the whole cornhole. Like, yeah, like, it's like, I've seen them all. Like, you've seen each other's bodies. So for you to sit there, all of a sudden, 10 years in, he had a little cowboy hat over his penis on his, like, 40th birthday. And I'm like, and you're gonna sit here and be precious about this?
Justin
I was just like, since when are we that.
Mary
Like, it's summer house, literally. Okay, wait, hold on, you guys.
Natalie (pregnant wife)
Yes.
Mary
Westin. Sierra.
Nick
Oh, God. I know. Nothing to do with it. What?
Mary
Oh, my God.
Leia
No, I'm rooting for it.
Sierra
I'm here so far.
Leia
When she was on the merry go round. Oh, my God.
Natalie (pregnant wife)
And watching her, he was like, yeah.
Mary
Do you want to know? Do you want.
Leia
They love each other.
Mary
Do you want to know what I did?
Natalie (pregnant wife)
What?
Nick
What?
Mary
I reacted when they were interacting and it was positive and good and fun, I went.
Leia
Mary, there's your next fan cam, by the way.
Mary
Yeah. Oh, it's totally a Weston Sierra fan cam.
Amir
I mean, whatever.
Nick
I guess if they're. If they're really happy, but they really put us through it the past couple seasons.
Mary
God forbid. It's a slow burn.
Leia
Wes put us through it. He put Sierra through it, and for a whole season she made him regret it. And now she's like, send her some.
Mary
He's got a cute butt.
Leia
Yeah, yeah, just send her a real. Since you.
Mary
I kind of think they're end game, you guys.
Nick
I got to be honest.
Mary
I think they're for each other.
Nick
I just saw West POV a little bit more, you know, and look who's.
Sierra
Coming back for seconds.
Nick
No, I just. I can't.
Natalie (pregnant wife)
So it doesn't seem like it's still his pov.
Nick
I can't. I know.
Sierra
It's all West's fault, and that's nice. Can we get that on a cut down?
Natalie (pregnant wife)
Yeah.
Sierra
When Jesse. For the preview of what's coming up this season, when Jesse's like, hey, like, do you mind if I make out with Sierra and Wesley? Is that what Is that in the works? I was like, talk about acceleration.
Leia
I hope Jesse, you know how Bailey was just talking about how, like, Jesse's a girls girl. I hope that that's, like, planted that Jesse's got this plan where he's gonna be like, I'm gonna make Wes jealous.
Justin
So that he knows people were saying that he's filling the gap with Paige.
Sierra
He really is.
Justin
He was in the bed on his phone.
Sierra
Well, when she was saying that he's one of the girls, I was like, I love that the tallest guy in the group went to, like, fill the shoes of the smallest girl.
Mary
I love Jesse being one of the girls. This is a perfect arc for him. It's where he needs to be.
Sierra
We need that.
Mary
We need that for. He needs to just take a break for a minute.
Justin
He said that last season, he was like, I'm not going to mess with any girls, Lexi.
Leia
But, you know, there's nothing I love more than, like, the will they. Won't they? And the west and Sierra storyline has been that. And this season feels like, okay, I'm emotionally ready. Yeah. For this to be like, last season, I would have been like, sierra, please.
Nick
No, I don't think it's going to happen this year.
Mary
I think this season, if they go into it being like, all right, let's not put. I think what. What's really working for them right now. They'll be civil. And it seems like Sierra made a point to. To be like, I don't really have any expectations. And so did Wes. And I think it's like, if you're going into it without any expectations of.
Sierra
Each other, it's just gonna pop up.
Mary
It's just gonna pop up, and you can have fun. And I think that's what they should do.
Sierra
And on watch what happens live, they did a poll about wanting Wes and Sierra together, and it was, like, astronomical. Yes. And, like, she was down with it.
Leia
There's nothing I love more than watching a man win a woman back.
Justin
Right. He has to work for it.
Sierra
Yes.
Natalie (pregnant wife)
Like, watching him grovel.
Sierra
But the fact that, like, she thought that the animals were. And, like, he was like, oh, that makes me happy. Makes me feel like this is home again. And I. Oh, and also shout out to Wes because I was, like, so cute when he was checking on kj and with his anxiety, he was like, man, is it okay if, like, if I check on you? Like, do you like that? And it was just like.
Leia
That was really sweet.
Natalie (pregnant wife)
Okay.
Leia
I like their friends.
Mary
Oh, also, kj, making me feel very confused is all I have to say about that. That guy's hot. And he's a. He's a skater.
Sierra
Kj.
Amir
All right.
Nick
He's like, I invented a skateboarding skateboard.
Natalie (pregnant wife)
He's like.
Mary
I was like.
Natalie (pregnant wife)
He's like, I've only ever been, like, around women. I'm just, like, so in tune with women. And I love to hang out.
Justin
I'm a model. I lived in Europe.
Mary
Like, I have anxiety.
Nick
No, you do cry. It is okay.
Sierra
I have anxiety.
Natalie (pregnant wife)
Oh, my God.
Leia
Anxiety love.
Sierra
So cute.
Mary
And his. He's so cute.
Nick
No one's literally ever said that to me.
Leia
A man with anxiety love.
Nick
Everyone's like, what's the Is wrong with you? Why aren't you having any fun?
Mary
Well, he's charming about it.
Justin
Sad boys are normalized.
Nick
You know what that reminds me me of? Back to my gummy balcony. Dj.
Leia
Yeah, your party. Your party of ones.
Nick
You know what some of the worst advice people get?
Mary
What?
Nick
Just be yourself.
Mary
Oh, I've never had that issue. That's always worked out great for me.
Nick
Because, like, honestly, sometimes, like, I've tried to be myself, and people are like, no.
Mary
Well, then you don't want to be around them.
Natalie (pregnant wife)
Sometimes I. Well, no, sometimes I do tell Nick, like, when we're going into family events, like, okay, be a little less you today. I'm like, perform. You got this.
Nick
Which I'm fine to do. And listen, I really think. I think the key of life, of having.
Natalie (pregnant wife)
And then I'm, like, in awe by him. He's like, wow. And how are you, Tony?
Bailey Taylor
How was your surgery a few weeks ago?
Sierra
How was that?
Natalie (pregnant wife)
Are you recovering okay?
Sierra
And I'm like, it's my man.
Natalie (pregnant wife)
This morning. He did bring my sister coffee and a breakfast sandwich and didn't even, like, ask her if she wanted it. He just was like, acts of service. Acts of service.
Amir
You know?
Nick
But that's the thing who.
Justin
Who.
Nick
Who always has a good personality.
Leia
I think. I think the beauty of KJ and his anxiety is that he's just like, very. He's very vulnerable and open about it. You could be. You could be more like, guys, I'm just. I'm anxious right now, right?
Natalie (pregnant wife)
Oh, yeah, you should say that.
Nick
I've tried that.
Leia
Voice it.
Nick
No. Why don't you have any fun?
Natalie (pregnant wife)
I'm really.
Leia
I'm feeling anxious right now. I'm just having a little overstimulated. Overstimulated. Like, I. I promise I'm. I'm having fun. I just. I need.
Nick
I'm just saying sometimes being yourself. Yourself is the bad. Is bad advice, you know?
Natalie (pregnant wife)
And that's your ass.
Leia
Nick.
Natalie (pregnant wife)
Advice for the day.
Leia
Don't be yourself.
Justin
I did have a question about summer house, too. You can go first.
Leia
Okay. Period.
Sierra
What was it like seeing a fellow bachelor alum on there and, like, would you.
Nick
If you were interested, I will say, like, that that whole scene was something I related to the whole, like, did you know he was on the Bachelor when the two, like, two people are talking about you to your face.
Justin
Right?
Nick
And then it's a whole, like, oh, but you were the Bachelor and what was that like? And you're trying to, like.
Sierra
And encouraging people not to watch your season.
Nick
Yeah, I'm like, yeah.
Leia
So, like, oh, no.
Sierra
I instantly thought of you because he was like, no, it's not me.
Justin
Like.
Sierra
And I was like, I wonder if this is how, like, how do I.
Nick
Get out of this conversation without, like, sounding like I'm like, like, you're trying.
Sierra
To be like, no, don't look at it.
Nick
Yeah.
Sierra
You're like, seriously, don't.
Nick
Yeah.
Leia
You. You admit that you're feeling anxious, that they're having this moment where I'm like.
Nick
All right, like, what would I. Should I do? The opposite of what my instincts are like.
Mary
George Costanza.
Justin
My question, when they got. So when they first. It's a two order. When they first arrived at the house and Sierra's car left the trunk open for people to grab the suitcases. Two parts. The first part of the question, would you grab those suitcases if you were coming after? And the second part, I do kind of wonder if Kyle got the short end of that stick because all the other guys didn't grab anything from the trunk. But, like, the heat came on Kyle.
Sierra
Well, Kyle's married, first of all, so that is why.
Natalie (pregnant wife)
And he kind of told Ciara to, like, get her own bags. Kind of in a way.
Sierra
They all did.
Justin
And I'm doing devil's advocate a little bit.
Sierra
I'm just asking because what was crazy about that? That whole Thing was that he sat there, fights with Sierra about going and getting the stuff, because, hey, we've got five minutes until torrential downpour, and then everybody's going and taking caravans and grabbing stuff, and then you have him popping open a lover boy alone in the kitchen. And I was just like, you are just that guy. Like, instead of just grabbing the shit for your wife and her friend, it's like, let's put up a whole thing to not do anything.
Leia
Also, are you scared of water?
Nick
Kyle does not do what he doesn't want to do. He is. He gets nothing out of. Out of, like, helping people.
Sierra
I was gonna say, it's hard for me to believe that Kyle can put someone else first.
Natalie (pregnant wife)
You know what I mean?
Sierra
Like, without seeing how it would take something away from him. Whereas even with the Amanda thing, Support your wife, she can have a passion project. But it was like, no, it's taking time away from my company. You shouldn't be doing that. You shouldn't even want to do that.
Nick
Yeah, he doesn't. That doesn't seem to excite him. Like, nothing excites me more than sharing the spotlight with my wife for Age of Attraction. Nothing excites me more than seeing her star rise and her looking good. Like, I could give. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Justin
Together, not apart.
Nick
Yeah, it's. It's. Kyle does not seem to get that same joy.
Sierra
No. No. I don't think he's been very supportive of Amanda, really, with anything. So that's why I'm like. It's sad, but it's like, the scariest part of a relationship ending is when people don't want to fight for it anymore. You know, when people get quieter, like what she said, I'm numb to it. And I know I should feel something. I know that this is bad, but, like, I just don't react anymore. When you saw Amanda used to, like, call him 500 times and, like, smashing his shit in the bathroom because she's so upset that he's still not home and still out partying. And this was five years ago.
Justin
Yeah.
Natalie (pregnant wife)
You know what I mean?
Sierra
So the idea that she's married and he's still doing this shit.
Leia
The.
Sierra
The Snapchat.
Natalie (pregnant wife)
So sad that she's like, I used to. Not, Like, I couldn't fall asleep without him next to me. And now she's like, I just knock out. It's like, that is so sad.
Nick
I'm excited to see them both date. I hope it doesn't get ugly like Jesse and Michelle got on the Valley. I worry I don't think it will.
Mary
I want them to stay friends. I think they do have a good.
Sierra
Amanda said that on Watch what happens live when she asked who's gonna date first, she's like, I probably me. So I'm assuming that, like, Amanda, Amanda's not gonna have.
Natalie (pregnant wife)
It's because everyone has seen how Kyle is as a partner, and it's not.
Sierra
The most intriguing, even outside of the partner. It's like, you see what he's like after a night out that I'm like, who's signing up for that?
Bailey Taylor
Sorry.
Sierra
I feel like that's actually really harsh. But like, it is when you see somebody get to a point where they're talking to themselves in the kitchen to their snacks.
Nick
He'll have his options, unfortunately.
Sierra
Yeah. Anyway, we'll see her on the next season of Summer House.
Justin
I mean, yeah, I would have grabbed the luggage. That's what I was trying to get at with that conversation.
Sierra
Nice.
Justin
And I think everybody here would too.
Natalie
Bring it back.
Nick
All right, well, up next, we have.
Mary
I will.
Leia
I will just say one gripe. Jesse Solomon still hasn't answered my DM about the party fools.
Sierra
She was trying to get on the on the list for a party at Summer House. And just so you know, that was filmed last summer.
Natalie (pregnant wife)
Well, well. And it is February.
Leia
He still hasn't responded.
Nick
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Nick
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Amir
Thank you. That's, that's nice to hear. We're just, you know, we're, we're new to this so we don't know what is good, what's not good. And we just kind of are just doing the best we can can so far for sure.
Nick
Curious like going into filming this, what conversations you do guys have as a couple about the possibility of addressing this story and talking about it. Because obviously it's very personal, you know, very difficult, I'm sure, to talk about at times. And then you just invite, you know, outside opinions and outside opinions are already difficult when it's just them talking about your new haircut, you know, let along, you know, something as personal about what you guys have, have gone through.
Amir
Yeah, I think, you know, we knew it was a possibility. Although when it started I figured, okay, like I'm just going to be the husband in the background, you know, helping with the kids and this is going to be drama amongst the girls. And then lo and behold, here we are sort of digging into it and as you watch the show, you sort of are realizing that this isn't something that we generally dig into and we're figuring out it out. Doing the show helped us to address this topic specifically that we were too busy to address or maybe we were hiding behind the fact that we had all these kids and we're like, ah, we'll just shelve it and not kind of deal with it. And we decided, you know, as it was starting to unfold, at least me, I was like, if I'm going to talk about this, I'm not going to half ass it. I'm just going to, you know, really just dive into it. And it is what it is. I'm not going to be ashamed of whatever my feelings are. I really genuinely care about Natasha and I want to hear what she has to say. And that's okay. If it's not great, I'm scared by it, but I'll listen to it, you know, and if it's, if everybody's going to hear about it, everybody's going to hear about it, but I don't know how she felt like I was when we, I didn't see some of her scenes.
Nick
Sure.
Amir
So watching that back was very emotional for me because I was like, you know, sort of. Not that did, did I make a mistake? Kind of like making this storyline, I guess you would say. But it's kind of hurting her and it made me feel sad, you know, that she was having those feelings and that I wasn't there to be able to be like, no, no, no, no, don't feel that, you know, or not that I should say that, but just I felt bad.
Nick
Understood. Yeah. How about you, Natasha?
Natalie
I mean we like moved really fast in our relationship. We met, we got engaged six months later. Later we got pregnant like a month after we got engaged. So we just kind of like, it was like, you know, just fast paced and we didn't really have time to like sit and really talk about this topic. I mean, of course, like when I first started dating him, I was like asking like how he feels about that and like where he's at, like if he's ready to take the next step with someone else. You know, like obviously we had those conversations, conversations and I was ready but, but you know, like I said, we just move so fast. So it was, it's not something that I was like sitting there dwelling on. And then we, it came up, you know, within our friend group and like topic and so then it just like opened it up again and I'm like, wait, like there are these feelings that you know, I've had but like I just kind of, kind of like put. Because we got married, had kids back to, back to back. Like we just don't have time to like sit and think about that. But you know, it was just medium and all that. Like it just kind of was like, oh wait, like we actually never really, you know, got to the bottom of this and like how do you feel about that and how, how are you feeling? Like every day. And so it was, it was nice actually to, you know, for sure that.
Nick
Makes a lot of sense when hearing you guys talk. I mean Natalie and I have talked about this in our marriage, but I think for, for married couples, I think sometimes you know, it's just like the, you know, comfort, not necessarily complacency but like, you know, it's interesting to hear you talk Natasha, about when you guys first started dating and obviously this was a topic you guys talked about. But your questions in your point of view that you're coming from a month in your India relationship, relationship probably aren't the same a year And a half later when you're pregnant, you know, you know, you're very much together now, there's love there. And it would make sense to maybe revisit that conversation. But sometimes I think in a relationship, I don't know, you just kind of get comfortable with not bringing, you know, you don't want to rock the boat, you don't want to say something. And so it's kind of like a lot, I think a lot of couples experience this. You almost like let the silence just kind of can be consistent sometimes. And I think as couples, we take for granted the importance of like checking in with each other or revisit a conversation that maybe you had in the past, but now that your current situation is different, it might mean need to be revisited, whatever that situation is. So it's makes a lot of sense and kind of fascinating to hear you guys talk about it from that perspective.
Amir
Yeah, I think like that underlying.
Nick
It.
Amir
I don't want to say uncomfortable, but like, it's just out there lingering. And we choose to kind of keep it like suffer through the, the day, like all these days rather than just take the band aid off. And now having done it, it was like we could have, this would have been, we could have cut this out much earlier, like this unspoken sort of under the rug thing that we were avoiding out of fear that it would change things or I mean, we were, we were already like, she was pregnant, we were married. Like, there's no going back. So it's like, what's the point going back of. But at the same time, I feel like our relationship is better because of this, like, therapy session we went through on tv.
Nick
Well, that's great to hear. I mean, so often we hear how reality TV can, can negatively impact couples. So it's always exciting and, and nice to hear stories where, you know, these situations will, you know, encourage or not necessarily force. But yeah, provide a space, space for people to, to get the word out. And I, I, I imagine you've heard from fans of people who have connected with your story who have experienced some kind of loss that appreciate you guys opening up.
Amir
Absolutely. Both of us. I, I mean, I get messages all the time like, my lost my husband, I lost my wife. Some of them are early in the grief journey, some are further along. But they're just like, thank you for representing the widows and widows and for sharing your story. I have some hope some of them are asking for advice, but I feel like Natasha gets a lot of messages too about being the person who's supporting. Yeah, The. The widower or widow. You got messages, right?
Natalie
Yeah, a lot that we're like, wow. Like, I'm, you know, so it's. It's just. It helps to see that this, like, different view that I have because I'm like, you know, it's not. She's not here anymore to. It's not like it's an ex, you know, so it's not someone that's like, oh, you know, like, are they, like, texting or does she. Does he think about, like, getting back with her or something? It's not, you know, she's not here anymore. And it's not. It's. It's so different than, like, a breakup. So. Yeah, I've just had a lot of people who are like, oh, like, how does it feel to be, you know, second choice or whatever? Like, I just. I don't know how to feel about that. And I'm like, I don't think it should be seen that way. I think, like, you are, you know, his choice now. And I think, like, you know, that of course, the previous wife, who, you know, has. She passed from cancer. And, like, it's. It's so devastating, but, like, he has this future to look forward to, and I think that's something worth celebrating as well. So I just feel like.
Amir
Yeah, well said.
Natalie
Yeah.
Nick
I mean, as. As we know, loss. Loss affects us all at.
Amir
At.
Nick
At various points in our life. And. And it is always important to move forward, and it's great to see you guys do that in such a beautiful way. I'm curious, that scene from last episode where. Where Gigi and Sky really got at it, how was it for you guys being there? Was it as intense? And are you guys personally int. Offended by sky not living it, wanting to live in the valley?
Amir
It was. It was intense. I felt like it was. It was unreal for a minute because I just. If you notice, I'm, like, eating the whole time sort of. Like, for a second I was like, should I. Should I jump in here? And then I was like, no, I'm going to let them sort of figure this out. And I just went to my food. But it was when she got up and like, you know, because when you're filming, they have these bright lights and it just kind of looked unreal for a second as she was, like, standing over. Over her. And this was all I was. I couldn't believe it. I was like, what is happening? Yeah, Natasha's on the other side of the table.
Natalie
I honestly missed the whole first half of that. I was Having a conversation. Me and Tanning were talking and then all of a sudden we hear people, like, their voices raising. We're like, wait, what's happening over here? And then. And then go. Nesta gets up and we're like, wait, what. What just happened? So, like, I had to get kind of a recap. But yeah, it was. It was definitely pretty intense.
Amir
I. I was in the middle of it, but I was just more like, you know, sort of just looking back and forth. It was. I mean, I wasn't like, I don't care about what she said about the Valley because, like, it doesn't bother me, her thoughts. But there was just so much that led up to that moment and everybody kind of had feeling. Oh, there. There was. That's the. That's the straw.
Nick
Yeah.
Amir
Right. So I think there's a lot more underneath the surface with. Within the relationships. But that was sort of the catalyst that blew this up.
Natalie
Yeah. I mean, if she doesn't like the Valley, like, you know, I don't like, you know, I don't want to live in the west side. So I get it.
Mary
It's fine.
Natalie
I guess people who are from the Valley, who were born and raised in the Valley. Valley. It could be offensive when you're constantly saying like, oh, this and that. Like, the Valley's like, the food sucks. Like, everything sucks. And it's like, okay, come on. So. But I mean, me personally, I'm not from here, so I love the Valley, but I'm from the Bay Area, so I'm not, like, personally offended.
Natalie (pregnant wife)
There is an Erewhon in the Valley, so.
Leia
Yeah. Have you been to Sportsman's Law Multiple.
Natalie
We live by Palabasa's 1. It's like five minutes up the road.
Amir
So that's the only place that is.
Natalie (pregnant wife)
Worth eating at the best restaurant in la. Is there one?
Natalie
Yeah.
Nick
Yeah. I mean, we had Reza on a couple weeks ago and he kind of elaborated on. On his point of view when it comes to Sky. But it sounds like you guys share his sentiment where it's like, you know, it's sounds like she just gives that like a little bit. I'm better than everyone. I'm better than you. And just hyper critical, I guess, at everyone but herself. At least that's kind of how Reza put it.
Amir
I think she wants to feel better than everybody and that's probably why she says those things. Right. It's not even about us. That's more about where she is trying to position herself, or at least in her mind, make herself feel like she's above everyone. We're a little bit more easygoing, as you can see while you're watching the show. We're not like sort of in the throes, but she's definitely making comments. Comments and putting people down in the group. And the group, especially a Persian group, doesn't like to be talked down to.
Nick
Yeah, yeah.
Sierra
Whose storyline are you most shocked by watching?
Amir
Probably sky, right? Yeah, I would say sky again. I was so shocked when that went down. I didn't even know she had that in her.
Sierra
Oh, the.
Amir
Yeah, the.
Sierra
With the tissues. I blow my nose with the tissue drop.
Amir
Yeah, yeah, drop heard around the world.
Nick
Any other questions for Amir and Natasha?
Natalie (pregnant wife)
I don't think so. It's been so fun to watch you guys and we're excited to continue watching Yalls journey on the Valley.
Amir
Thank you. Thanks for having us. We appreciate the support. You guys saying nice things to us makes us feel better about at least me feel better about crying on tv.
Nick
Well, we really enjoy watching you guys and you guys have a special thing going. And again, again, it's not easy to be vulnerable and it's not easy to share personal stuff. But I think what you guys say goes a long way and it's been fun to watch you guys and we're excited to see more of you guys. So thanks for taking the time. Best of luck the rest of the season and get some rest.
Amir
Appreciate. Thank you.
Nick
All right, take care, guys.
Natalie (pregnant wife)
Well, and if you missed the most recent episode of the Valley Persian style, we do have a rapid recap. So we pick back up in Palm Springs after Dennis the Menace crashed the party. It's a struggle, but they power through and shake their asses. Everyone is like, okay, I guess Dennis is here now and we're all going to be nice to him except Gigi. Then Dennis says Gigi is nothing and has made nothing. And they're off again. Adam thinks Gigi needs to set boundaries with him. Then they race cars. MJ won't drive because she's afraid of death. RJ lost control and skidded the car, but he's okay because he's going to hook up with a hot waitress named Courtney to make Gigi jealous. Adam did Gigi's dirty work and kicks Dennis out of the house. Reza is over sky in her hatred for the Valley. Gigi is like, girl, you're on a show called the Valley right now. Also, sky is obsessed with Erwan, but she doesn't think she's snobby. Reza laughs in her face at the time. This admittance Gigi snaps on her. Then sky calls Gigi a piece of shit that is beneath her. I'm sure Gigi will take this very calmly.
Nick
I mean, I don't want to. Like, like, clearly sky seemed wrong about the Valley, but, like, why can't she, can't she just not like the Valley?
Natalie (pregnant wife)
Thank you.
Leia
This strikes a chord.
Justin
Thank you.
Leia
This, this strikes a specific chord for me. Growing up in Los Angeles, Danny grew up in the Valley. And I will say there is a thing about the Valley that, like, people used to like. You know, you live so far the Valley so far. I don' to go to the Valley like you come here.
Nick
I'm certainly no la and I'm guilty of it, but I feel like the Valley has really upped its game over the past, say, 10 years.
Sierra
We just got a great white.
Natalie (pregnant wife)
We have a John and Vinnies.
Leia
I just went there for breakfast. Amazing breakfast.
Nick
You know, I think compared to other parts of LA, maybe 10 or 15 years ago, the Valley was easily, maybe the. The butt of jokes.
Sierra
Yeah.
Nick
Because maybe they the wasn't as like, glamorous, but like, it's really upped its game.
Sierra
It's always been like the suburbs, but it was always kind. Oh, if you can't afford to live on that side of the hill, you go and live in the Valley where I'm like, I'm sorry, the real estate in the Valley now is surpassing on the other side. And at least you get free parking.
Leia
Am I the only one who calls it the Valley in the city?
Sierra
Yeah, I call it the city, like downtown la.
Mary
Maybe my thing about the Valley is. Leia, I disagree with you. I think that when people live in the Valley, you can't get them out of the Valley sometimes.
Leia
Now that I live in the Valley and I'm like, now I'm driving to.
Mary
The Valley outside, outside of work, and.
Sierra
I'm not getting a $80 ticket for being 10, five minutes past my time on my meter because I went to your house.
Mary
Okay.
Leia
Do you know how many street cleaning tickets I got when I lived in the city on the other side of the hill?
Mary
Sorry, I have a parking space at my apartment.
Leia
I don't know that the Valley is awesome and I didn't realize it until I moved here and I've lived here and now everybody better come to me.
Justin
It's like, Mary, you're rooting for the side of the city that gave me a parking ticket for cleaning when the street was on fire. When the city was on fire.
Mary
Justin, you live in my neighborhood.
Justin
That side of as someone who's gonna convert to.
Bailey Taylor
He's moving to the Valley.
Sierra
Yep.
Justin
I see the pros and cons.
Mary
I refuse. I'm not gonna retire to the Valley just yet.
Sierra
So many pros.
Justin
I will say I do actually kind of like Sky. I think she should have known the room, and she was being pretentious in the moment, but I like her.
Leia
I like what she's offering Erewhon here.
Justin
I think she's offering.
Nick
I think she just needs to work on the.
Justin
For delivery.
Nick
Well, also, just listen. There are people who just make better and smarter choices than others.
Justin
Yes. Okay.
Nick
In life, life's a journey of choices. If you think that you are one of those people who makes better choices, you just can't be the one. You can't be your biggest cheerleader.
Justin
Better choices in regards to what?
Nick
Anything. Life. Decision making business decisions. Where sky really lost me. Tannen's version of the jewelry conversation where Tannen's, like, supporting her friend, buying her jewelry, buying tons of jewelry. And then Sky's like, I' giving you so many discounts.
Justin
That's why I said delivery. Because, like, even the skincare skin oil thing, where it's like, I'm a skincareholic. I wouldn't do that with overpriced oils. But I'm also like, she could have rubbed it on her dog when her friend wasn't there. You know, Like, I think she was just like, it's nice. I'm putting it on my dog.
Sierra
I think it's also partially just like, even the. The need to feel better than people being like, I need to buy a house in Beverly Hills or Bel Air, where it's like, your husband is literally sitting next to you saying, it's not a good decision decision right now, which means you don't financially. That's not a smart move for you to do. But it's like, instead, it's like, I need everybody to know I just want a bigger house in a different zip code, not in the Valley. And it's like, even a bigger house in Bel Air is going to be astronomically more than the house that you have in the Valley.
Justin
An apartment in Bel Air.
Sierra
Thank you. Like an apartment in Bel Air. Thank you. So that's why I was like, it's. It's the tone deafness for me.
Justin
No, that's why I said, like, know the room. Because, like, I do like sky, but I think she's saying things around people, people that are like, there's no way for us to not be offensive.
Leia
Also, justice For Trader Joe's. Literally.
Sierra
What she say? When did Trader Joe's catch a strike?
Leia
I'm just saying, nobody mentioned that. When they were going.
Mary
They were like.
Justin
She was talking about Erewh. There's, like, ten steps below Erewhan. There's Gelson's. Yeah, there's.
Sierra
I was like, nowadays, in today's economy, groceries are expensive everywhere.
Justin
Yeah, exactly.
Mary
My. My thing about sky is, like, there's a way to playfully make fun of the Valley. She's not making fun, and she's not making fun. She genuinely hates it. Like, I love to make down on it.
Sierra
Yeah.
Mary
Like, I love to make fun of the Valley because I just.
Leia
She wants to be up high, looking down.
Justin
She did say the tissue thing, and.
Natalie (pregnant wife)
I was like, oh, yeah, I love.
Mary
To make fun of the Valley, but just because, like, I think it's funny, even though if no one else does. But, like, for her.
Sierra
Well, here.
Mary
That's the funny thing. I'm here all the time is why I do it. But it's like, for her, it's like, girl, you're on a show called the Valley. And when. Who didn't Gigi say that? Yeah, I just.
Justin
I love the fact that Skye's like, gigi, you can't smoke here. And then she's like, I'm going go to go smoke with you. Like, I think that's just, like, this is TV gold for me.
Leia
But, yeah, it was a lot of fun to watch also. Yeah, big fan of Amir and Natasha.
Mary
I like them a lot.
Nick
I think that'll do it for today's episode. Thank you to our guest, Amir and Natasha, as well as Bailey Taylor. Also, don't forget, if you want to check us out live on May 6, myself, my lovely wife, in the cast of the upcoming season of Temptation Island. It's going to be scandalous, wacky, wild, and fun and live. And you can get tickets now. Get them while they're available. Go to our link in bio on our show description or just like, our Instagram or something like that.
Leia
Oh, my God, Natalie, you're going to be so pregnant by then.
Natalie (pregnant wife)
Whoa.
Mary
Yeah.
Nick
Temptation Island.
Mary
They're going to be doing body shots off of each other, and Natalie's just.
Natalie (pregnant wife)
Going to be like, yeah, my belly button is super out.
Leia
Yeah.
Nick
You think they'll ever bring a. A pregnant person on Temptation Island?
Mary
That's crazy.
Nick
No, it's. It is crazy.
Natalie (pregnant wife)
I don't know.
Justin
It is Temptation Island.
Nick
All right, well, we will see you next week. Bye. Bye.
Sierra
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Date: February 5, 2026
Host: Nick Viall (plus Natalie Joy, Leia, Mary, Sierra, Justin, Amir & Natasha, Bailey Taylor)
This Reality Recap edition is a jam-packed episode of The Viall Files, celebrating big news within the Viall household, breaking down the drama and emotions of the Summer House Season Premiere (featuring new cast member Bailey Taylor), diving deep on The Valley: Persian Style with stars Amir and Natasha, and chatting about single life and dating in the Housewives universe. It’s a rollercoaster ride of relationship talk, reality TV recaps, and personal, heartfelt shares.
Conversational, lively, honest, supportive—with a blend of vulnerability, comedy, and unapologetic reality TV fandom. The hosts are playful but empathetic, bringing wisdom and humor to both serious and pop-culture topics.