E850 - Holiday Recipes w Katie Lee, The Ultimatum, Crystal Minkoff Christmas Dinner, Spotify Wrapped & RHOBH

Summary

Podcast Summary: The Viall Files Episode E850 - Holiday Recipes w Katie Lee, The Ultimatum, Crystal Minkoff Christmas Dinner, Spotify Wrapped & RHOBH

Introduction

In Episode E850 of The Viall Files, hosts Nick Viall, Justin, Sandy, Dorit, and E delve into a festive array of topics ranging from holiday celebrations and reality TV drama to pop culture highlights. This episode, released on December 5, 2024, offers listeners a comprehensive look into the intersections of relationships, celebrity antics, and personal anecdotes, all infused with the hosts' signature humor and insight.

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1. Crystal Minkoff’s Christmas Dinner and Vicky Gunvalson Incident

The episode kicks off with a detailed recounting of Crystal Minkoff’s exclusive Christmas dinner party, attended by notable reality TV personalities including Tamra Judge, Heather Dubrow, and Paula Abdul. Natalie Joy attends the event and shares her experiences, highlighting the glamorous yet chaotic nature of such gatherings.

Key Highlights:

• Vicky Gunvalson's Hot Mic Moment: A significant portion of the discussion centers around a "hot mic" incident involving Vicky Gunvalson. During the party, Vicky made candid remarks that sparked immediate reactions from the hosts.

  Nick (02:24): "We made some waves. Vicky made some waves... We did Green Light keeping in that hot mic moment with Vicky."

  Justin (03:22): "She is who she is. We were so thankful to have her... she is nothing if not a star."

• Paula Abdul’s Appearance and Injuries: Paula Abdul joins the conversation, discussing her recent injuries and her commitment to fitness despite sporting 10-inch heels and fishnets at the party.

  Justin (13:02): "You know, how did you get injured while wearing those heels?"

  Paul Abdul (13:26): "I've got a torn rotator cuff... how am I injured in this?"

• Dinner Experiences and Gifts: The hosts describe the lavish spread, including a massive nine-carat diamond ring placed on the table by Crystal, symbolizing opulence and generosity.

  Justin (19:14): "It was nine carats. It was absolutely massive and stunning."

2. Mattel’s Lawsuit Over Wicked Dolls

Transitioning from holiday festivities to corporate controversies, the hosts discuss a class-action lawsuit filed against Mattel. The lawsuit alleges that Mattel failed to offer refunds for Wicked dolls whose packaging linked to a pornographic website, causing emotional distress to minors.

Key Points:

• Details of the Lawsuit: A South Carolina resident claims that the packaging directed to a porn site with explicit content, shocking both her and her minor daughter.

  Katie Lee (37:16): "Mattel pulled all the dolls from the shelves and issued a statement weeks ago."

• Public and Legal Reactions: The hosts express disbelief and concern over Mattel’s apparent oversight in fact-checking the URLs on their product packaging.

  Nick (37:38): "I can’t believe they put a porn site like, come on. Protect your children. What are you doing, Mattel?"

3. The Ultimatum Season 3 Discussion

A significant portion of the episode is dedicated to reviewing and analyzing the newly released third season of The Ultimatum on Netflix. The hosts share their thoughts on the show's dynamics, cast interactions, and the evolving nature of reality TV relationships.

Discussion Highlights:

• Cast Dynamics and Season Expectations: The hosts break down the behavior of various cast members, speculating on the authenticity and long-term viability of the relationships depicted.

  Nick (93:18): "There are so many interesting relationship questions that are revealed from watching this show."

• Astrology and Relationships: An engaging segment on how astrology influences the perceptions of the cast members' relationships and compatibility.

  E (51:49): "I'm feeling like we're being sexy... not male-gazey at all."

• Hot Takes and Predictions: The hosts offer their predictions on which couples will endure and which might falter under the show's pressures.

  Justin (55:29): "Honestly, I do not think Nick and Sandy last. I do not."

4. Spotify Wrapped and Pop Culture Reactions

The hosts engage in a lighthearted discussion about Spotify Wrapped, expressing varied opinions on the significance and privacy aspects of sharing personal music playlists.

Notable Conversations:

• Mixed Feelings on Sharing Music Data:

  Nick (32:43): "Not even ours... It's nice to know that we're on people's Spotify Wrapped."

  E (32:53): "Spotify Wrapped is like my Christmas."

• Privacy and Self-Promotion Debates: The conversation touches on the balance between celebrating personal music tastes and the desire to keep certain aspects private.

  Justin (33:26): "I don't need to see anyone's happy birthdays... I don't care who the person you listen to the most this year."

5. Personal Anecdotes: Fashion and Relationships

The episode weaves in personal stories from the hosts, including Justin’s adventures in shoe shopping and interactions with Paula Abdul, showcasing the blend of personal life with celebrity encounters.

Stories and Insights:

• Justin’s Shoe Shopping Fiasco:

  Justin (04:02): "Crystal Minkoff is Oprah... I need a size 8.5."

  Nick (26:37): "Why did I scotch tape the bottoms?"

• Paula Abdul’s Commitment Despite Injuries:

  Justin (13:02): "How are you wearing 10-inch heels and fishnets while injured?"

  Paul Abdul (13:26): "I’ve got a torn rotator cuff... how am I injured in this?"

6. Reality TV Show Analyses: Salt Lake City and Vanderpump Rules

Further discussions revolve around other reality TV shows like Salt Lake City and Vanderpump Rules, with the hosts critiquing cast behaviors, show authenticity, and production decisions.

Critical Insights:

• Salt Lake City’s Authenticity:

  Dorit (65:44): "Salt Lake City is one of the best shows on television ever. Ever."

  Nick (66:30): "Lisa Barlow is refusing to get on an airplane because she only flies first class."

• Vanderpump Rules’ Season Updates:

  Dorit (76:14): "She's just holding back... wanting to be on the show and... be friends with Sutton."

7. Cooking Tips and Personal Preferences

In a segment with guest Katie Lee, an American cookbook author and reality TV enthusiast, the hosts exchange cooking tips and discuss their dietary preferences, adding a personal touch to the episode.

Key Exchanges:

• Secret Sauce Recipes:

  Dorit (61:28): "Burger sauce is usually just mayonnaise and ketchup with some pickle relish in there."

• Picky Eaters and Cooking for Family:

  Nick (62:25): "I'm an anti-mayonnaise kid. Anything white and creamy is not for me."

  Dorit (69:11): "I have a secret sauce recipe that includes sweet potatoes and pomegranate seeds."

8. Closing Remarks and Upcoming Topics

As the episode wraps up, the hosts tease upcoming discussions and encourage listeners to tune into future episodes where they will delve deeper into topics like The Ultimatum and other pop culture phenomena.

Final Highlights:

• Upcoming Discussions:

  Nick (75:02): "We'll be talking about The Ultimatum Episode One and its implications for reality TV."

• Listener Engagement:

  Dorit (91:12): "Follow me on Instagram at Katie Lee Beagle... check out my wine at KindOfWildWines.com."

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Conclusion

Episode E850 of The Viall Files masterfully blends holiday cheer with cutting-edge discussions on reality TV and pop culture. Through engaging conversations, personal stories, and insightful critiques, Nick Viall and his co-hosts provide listeners with a rich and entertaining podcast experience. Whether you're seeking relationship advice, the latest reality TV updates, or simply some festive humor, this episode delivers on all fronts.

Notable Quotes:

• Nick on Vicky Gunvalson:

  "Vicky, the queen that she is, was more than happy to allow it in and play ball because say what you want about Vicky, she is real. She is authentic."

• Dorit on Picky Eating:

  "Burger sauce is usually just mayonnaise and ketchup with some pickle relish in there. If you want to take it up a little bit, put about a tablespoon of the pickle brine in it."

• Justin on Cooking Challenges:

  "I made love... It was a done deal."

• Katie Lee on Hosting Parties:

  "I'm doing a ham and martini party. I'm making a big beef bourguignon, get a baguette, make a salad, open a great bottle of red wine and call it a day."

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Timestamp Reference:

• 00:01 - 01:05: Introduction and initial advertisements.
• 01:05 - 22:48: Discussion of Crystal Minkoff’s Christmas Dinner.
• 22:48 - 32:37: Mattel lawsuit and other reality TV topics.
• 32:37 - 36:38: Spotify Wrapped and personal anecdotes.
• 36:38 - 59:47: Continued discussions on reality TV and pop culture.
• 59:47 - 91:41: Interview with Katie Lee, cooking tips, and personal stories.
• 91:41 - 101:44: The Ultimatum Season 3 and reality TV critiques.
• 101:44 - 102:37: Final thoughts and closing remarks.

Note: Advertisements and promotional segments have been excluded from this summary as per the podcast guidelines.

Transcript

[Nick]

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[Justin]

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[Nick]

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[Katie Lee]

Our water.

[E]

Our future.

[Justin]

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[Nick]

You're crazy. What's going on, everybody? Welcome back to another episode of the B Files. That was weird.

[Justin]

That was weird.

[Nick]

Reality Recap edition. I don't know. I just want to play around with new intros.

[Justin]

Okay.

[Nick]

Do people like the. What's going on? One day five years ago, I did it, and then I just kept doing it, and I'm not honestly convinced it's good.

[Justin]

I think it's great.

[Sandy]

I think it's your calling card.

[E]

Everyone in your brand.

[Dorit]

Yeah.

[Nick]

Doesn't mean it's good.

[Justin]

But I think if you were like, hello, everyone, it would be different. You know, sometimes I like it when.

[Nick]

We just turn it on and we're like, balls deep into a conversation. That was a little aggressive. Balls deep.

[Justin]

Balls deep. Yikes.

[Nick]

All right, how was the party last night, everyone, if you don't remember? Well, actually. No, no, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. Just got too much going on in my head. Too much going on. Natalie went to Crystal Minkoff's Christmas dinner party. Ladies only. Ish. Found out that some husband showed up at the end. That was a little disappointed to find out.

[Dorit]

Sorry.

[Nick]

I had plans. I had a mandate last night. It was cool. But I think we need to address the elephant in the room. We need to address Vicky. How do you say her last name again? Gunvalson. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not even trying to be a dick. Gum. Because I thought it was Gund Gumble.

[Justin]

Also, Nick can't pronounce Anything. So it's also like, yeah, of course.

[Nick]

We made some waves. Vicky made some waves. It seems as though I. Let's also just put it out there. You know, we like to have fun. We like to be messy, but we do like to respect the talent who does show up on our show. We did Green Light keeping in that hot mic moment with Vicki.

[Justin]

So we asked her.

[Nick]

We asked her permission. We were like, hey, by the way, like, this happened. We think it's funny. Are you cool with us leaving it in? Vicky, the queen that she is, was more than happy to allow it in and play ball because say what you want about Vicky, she is real. She is authentic. She is real. A little messy, you know, but like, real.

[Justin]

She is who she is on.

[Nick]

She is who she is. We were so thankful to have her. She's a star. It was great. We had so much fun with her. We appreciate her playing along. I was a little like, yeah, I was. It was a wild story. Like, she's a star. She's just like, she needs. And she needs to be back on a. If nothing else, what we learned is put her back on tv.

[Justin]

Absolutely.

[Nick]

But anyways, the point is we love Vicki and we can't wait to have her back on, hopefully in person next time. Oh, my God, she's a queen. And we are very grateful for Vicki for playing along and letting us keep that moment. And she is nothing if not a star. I hope she is enjoying her vacation.

[Justin]

Speaking of the Vicki episode, everyone at Crystal's party was like, oh, my God, that Vicki episode was wild.

[Sandy]

Natalie, if you don't tell me every detail about this Crystal's dinner right now.

[Justin]

I'm going to lose it.

[Nick]

First of all, we were. Well, I don't know where you guys were, but last night I was on my mandate. We were, me and my friend Peter, we went to watch Adam Ray's Dr. Phil show and we were getting play by play from Natalie.

[Sandy]

So.

[Nick]

And I was like, in a comedy show, checking my phone to be like, what's going on at the party?

[Justin]

I need to open it up with Crystal Minkoff is Oprah. She gave away diamonds.

[Sandy]

Oh, my God.

[Justin]

So we all walked away with Tokori diamonds, which I will be at the next dinner. I think I'm. Hopefully the next one is like, you get an Aspen house, you get a tulum house. And like, you know, hopefully we get a beach house or something. But Crystal Minkoff is the new Oprah and I'm loving that for her. First of all, I need to say that she should have had valet.

[E]

She didn't have.

[Justin]

She did not have valet.

[E]

Diamonds, but no valet.

[Justin]

She had diamonds but no valet. And there was a stretch or is.

[Nick]

She going to find your critique out from this show?

[Justin]

No, no, no. Me. Who else? Me and MJ and maybe Sheena were all saying how. We're going to talk about how she did not have valet on the podcast because we all three struggled with the parking situation. And I think all of the other women were Ubering, which definitely smart. Definitely smart. She lives up in the canyon, you know, not a lot of service, not a lot of parking. You know, there's not parking meters. There's not. We're in neighborhoods, it's two way streets. You know what I'm saying? So I pull into the driveway, I ring the bell, or if not a.

[Nick]

Valet, a clear instruction of where to park. You should probably parking.

[Justin]

Right, right, right, right, right, right. So I pull into the driveway, I ring the bell. Her housekeeper Lucy comes out. She's like, can't pull into the driveway. You gotta find parking. And I'm like, well, it's dark out here. There's a lot of traffic. Do you know where, like, I could go? She's like, to the left. I'm like, okay. So I back out of the driveway, I'm like, stop in traffic. And I go to the left. And the amount of no parking signs that were to the left was jarring. It was very clear I was not allowed to park anywhere to the left. So then as I'm going down, everyone this the longest line of traffic. And I'm like, I don't. Okay. I then call Nick. Nick's like, why are you calling me? Call Crystal. Which then triggers a little bit of a breakdown and I do start to cry just a little bit.

[Nick]

I made you cry?

[Justin]

You did. Just a little bit. Just because I had really bad anxiety. And I was like, I don't know where to park. I don't know where I am. I can't see. I have no service. Like, I'm in these new high heels that I just bought. I spent too much money on. I probably should return them, but I can't hitchhike. So I'm like, where? Okay.

[E]

It is the scariest thing in the world to, like, be alone. Trying to park somewhere in la.

[Justin]

Awful.

[E]

It's like I always make a friend come with me. I like, will not do it because I will cry.

[Nick]

I do want to be clear though. When Natalie called me up on my mandate at a dinner, she was like, I'm at Crystal's gate. How do I get in? I'm like, I've never been to Crystal's house. I don't know. We should probably call Crystal.

[Justin]

Like, so I did hang up on Nick immediately because that was clearly no help. So I did text Crystal when I was at her gate before all of this had started. I was like, hey, girl, I had to drive. I'm at your gate. No response. Obviously, she's hosting a party. Not on her phone anyways. So then I find parking. I hitchhike my way in, and I'm like, who am I gonna see walking in here? Like, I don't know anyone. I only know Crystal. Like, so I walk in and I'm like, okay, okay. Oh, there's Crystal. I'm gonna walk to her. Tamara judge Heather Dubrow are talking to Crystal and her husband Rob. Obviously. No Rob, give him a hug. Reach over. Give Crystal a hug. She introduces me to Tamara. Heather's like, oh, so great to see you. I'm like, you too. We all three start chat. She's like, Heather's like, let's get champagne. I'm like, let's go get champag.

[Nick]

So are you a little bit afraid of Tamra at this moment?

[Justin]

I'm a little. Just on edge. Because I'm like, I don't know, you know, we've run into some people who we have talked about their characters on TV shows, and so I'm always a little of like, I wonder if they've heard. I wonder what they think. Do they? Are they like, you know, fuck this, bitch. So I'm always a little, like, on edge?

[Nick]

Yeah. Because, like, sometimes it's just like, oh, I don't give a fuck. Like, I understand the assignment. I'm a. I'm a professional TV maker. And other times you're like, you know.

[Justin]

You were mean to me. And it's like, well, yeah.

[Nick]

And then they start, like, saying the craziest fucking shit in retaliation. It's like, holy shit, man. Like, just someone else on my show made a joke.

[Sandy]

Yep, 45 minute episode, right? But that's just what I came up to.

[Nick]

It wasn't even me. I didn't even say it.

[Justin]

So me. And then the photographer's like, let's get some photos of the three of you. So then me and Tamara and Heather are taking photos by the Christmas tree, and then we run into Kristen from Roni. She was there. And I was like, she looks so familiar. She looks a lot like Molly Sims, which Molly Sims is gorgeous. So I was like, is that Molly? No, I don't think so. And I said, like, you look so familiar. And she did the whole, like, scared, you know, like, didn't want to say what she. She was like, oh, yeah, I don't know. And I was like, okay, awkward. And so then I looked to Heather, and I'm like, heather, who is this blonde? And she was like. She hugged me, but not long enough. So it's like we know each other but not well. And I was like, so, Heather. Okay.

[Nick]

So Heather.

[Justin]

Yeah. I was like, okay, that helps.

[Sandy]

Thank you for that.

[Justin]

Perfect. Perfect.

[E]

No.

[Nick]

And so measuring, if I remember, what is my relationship to this person based off the pressure of their hug.

[E]

I wonder what, like, the seconds are for her. Like, is it like a 6 to 8? She doesn't remember you, but, you know, I wonder what her time frame.

[Justin]

I know. I was wondering that as well.

[E]

Yeah.

[Justin]

So we're all, me, Kristin, Tamara. We're chatting, and they're like, oh, my God, the Vicki episode. And I was like, it's crazy. And Tamara is like, that bitch. And I'm like, yeah, well, yep. And I'm like, you know, and then, oh, MJ walks in, and from Traders, Shaza Sunset. But also Shaw's the sunset. Yes. And so I'm like, oh, my God, I watch you on Traders. And she's like, oh, my God, I love your show. I, like, was just listening to the Vicky episode. I loved how Justin, the guy who sits beside you, said that the girls, the women of OC don't know how to hang up a phone. She was quoting Episodes and like, no, I love you. We are now probably best friends. She is great. She brought a money tree. I did not bring a gift at all. I know. But I did make it clear to Crystal that it was left on our dining room table when nothing was on our dining room table.

[Nick]

We're all learning. I went to, like, I went to dinner with Peter, and I was like, he's like, what's Natalie doing tonight? I'm like, this is kind of a big moment for Natalie. Also. I just went a little when we went home for Thanksgiving. Savannah, nothing makes me more, like, excited and proud. When we, like, watch the streets. Every time we go to Savannah, there's, like, one or two moments we'll be walking in Savannah and Natalie, like, we're running to someone she knows from her past. Like, you're at school, bartendering, whatever, and it's always looks like someone who's, like, a local. And there's always, like, a you made it, girl. Like, Natalie is like, Natalie's there, like, sweet home Alabama. And I fucking love it. It makes me really proud of my wife. Of, like. Cause they like some of these people. And don't get me wrong, Natalie's got her critics from back home, but the point is they love her, they hate her, they care about her, they're paying attention to her. And, like, I think it's. She like this. These people look at her like, we all wanted to do what you did and you did it, and it makes me quite proud. But anyways, I'm thinking, like, my wife, who I met when she was, like, bartending in Savannah, is now at a party with Paula Abdul, by the way, she was there. And a bunch of housewives. My babe made it like, so anyways, like, we don't know that we're supposed to bring expensive.

[Justin]

I didn't know. I didn't know. I thought about it as soon as I pulled out of my, like, neighborhood. And I was like, should I go and pick up a bottle of wine? And then I was like, oh, my God, I can't just pick up a bottle. I would have to be like, the nicest bottle of.

[E]

You're like, let me go to Trader Joe's, Justin's.

[Nick]

Let me get some basic wine. Because it's at a $30 price point that it's like, I think that's kind of, like, nice.

[Justin]

But like, I was like, josh, I get her Trader Joe's wine. I'm like, I feel like, this is fun. Bona box.

[E]

It's nice.

[Justin]

It's bougie. So I was like, then that's too much pressure. I can't do all of that. And then I'm like, I'll just tell her, like, new baby forgot it on. You know, it's fine. It's a white lie. Doesn't matter the color of it. It's still a lie. Anyways, so then me and mj. MJ walks in and she's like, oh, my God, the Vicky episode. That's where I was. So everyone's talking about the Vicki episode. It's so funny. Then Sheena comes in. We're all. Me and MJ are like, are gipping and gabbing. You know, we're trying to figure out, like, what's in the drawers of Crystal Minkoff's house. And so then they're like, okay, dinner is now served. If everyone could please make their way outside the backyard, which is lit with, like, tall candles, flowers everywhere, diamonds everywhere. I'm like, no, perfect. And I take a seat at my table with My embroidered napkin. And I look to my right, Paula Abdul. I look to my left, Tamara Judge. I'm like, no, well, of course.

[E]

Wow.

[Justin]

Well, of course.

[Sandy]

I concept my table.

[Justin]

I'll take my seat right here.

[E]

The vibeology of that, Truly.

[Justin]

Also, what is draped over my chair is this like mink robe. Oh. Because it's a little chilly out.

[E]

Yeah.

[Justin]

You know, she was thinking. She was thinking of everyone.

[Nick]

This is first class.

[Justin]

This is first class. I don't know if it was mink. I didn't test the fur, but it felt like mink.

[E]

Because of mink Off.

[Justin]

Exactly. Thank you very much.

[Nick]

So the thoughtfulness.

[Justin]

The thoughtfulness thing. Yeah, truly. So then I turn and I'm like, paula, how are you? Like, we've known each other for.

[Nick]

I have a picture of me and Paula.

[Justin]

Really? I don't have a photo because I was best friends, you know.

[Nick]

No, no, you acted.

[Justin]

I wasn't a fan.

[Nick]

No, absolutely.

[Justin]

You said. I'm like, paula, we're. Baby, how are you? So good to see you. She's like, oh, so great to see you. I'm good. I'm very injured. Like, injured? What do you mean? She's like, I've got a torn rotator cuff. I've got a stretched hamstring. I've got a hip. And I'm like, you're wearing 10 inch heels and fishnets. How are you this injured in this?

[E]

Like, she's a professional.

[Justin]

I know. It was a stupid question. And she was like, answer. She was like, I'm just. And we started getting into like our favorite Bravo. She loves the Salt Lake City.

[E]

Hell yeah.

[Sandy]

She's got to come on and talk about it.

[Justin]

I know. Sitting beside her is Ms. Jennifer Tilly.

[Nick]

Which Natalie. Blew my mind.

[Justin]

I did. Well, I. A little birdie blew my mind at that dinner when they told me that she is like, probably close to a billionaire. And I was like, oh, my God, how? And they were like, you don't know how she got her money. And I'm like, I don't know how she got her money from Chucky. She's like, no, no bound Stuart Little. And she's like, she was married to the creator of the Simpsons, got a divorce, he died. He had no heirs, so everything went to his most recent ex wife, Homie. So she's the power Simpson residual.

[Nick]

She cannot spend enough of money.

[Justin]

Truly.

[Nick]

And it's. There's dump trucks of cash. I mean, metaphorically backing up into her bank account on a daily basis. She could try to burn through her. She could never do it.

[Sandy]

Did she attach money to the money tree that she brought?

[Justin]

You know, I was. I was trying to get the invite into her next party because I am curious as to what her gift will be.

[E]

Oh, my gosh.

[Nick]

We need to get Gentile on.

[Justin]

And she is a hoot. She is just. She gives her opinion on everyone. She doesn't care. She can.

[Nick]

Should we make a podcast with Jennifer Tilly?

[Justin]

Absolutely. Absolutely. And then I turn to my right or my left, and Tamara is like. And. And Shannon this and Vicky this. And I was like, whoa, okay. And I had to put on my. Like, I'm a friend, not a podcast host. So I was like, I'm. I'm not, like, looking for tea. I'm just here to be a listening ear while you vent about everyone. And you know Tamara Tamra.

[Nick]

But they all knew who you like.

[Justin]

Yes.

[Nick]

You weren't cloak and daggering it.

[Justin]

No, no, no, no, no. Tamara was like, nick's podcast is huge. Like, this. Like, the fact that Vicki didn't know who he was like, come the fuck on.

[Nick]

It was like, I. I absolutely believe Vicki.

[E]

I think Vicky in her own universe. Yeah.

[Justin]

Yeah. But then Tamara was like, I think I was supposed to come on with Teddy a while back, but I got super sick and couldn't come on. And I was like, yeah, well, we need to have you back on. She was like, honestly, I'm kind of boring right now because I'm under Bravo's, like, contract, so.

[Nick]

We appreciate the honesty.

[Justin]

I do appreciate the honesty. And then I was like, listen, I'll be honest. Like, we might have been a little hard on you this season. I don't know if you've heard. She was like, listen, I. We do the same thing on my show. I tell everyone they're only as good as this week's episode. And I was like, I love you.

[E]

Yeah.

[Justin]

That is how you handle this type of stuff. And I said, you know what? We preface every episode. We don't know these people. We reserve the right to be wrong. We understand there's an edit. And I said, but now I have a real life experience with you. So, like, that will play in part of, like, when I watch you on tv, because it's like, oh, this is her on tv, but we're gonna still call it out.

[Nick]

No.

[Justin]

A hundred percent.

[Nick]

Yeah.

[Sandy]

But it sounds like she's okay with that.

[Justin]

Yes, she is okay with that.

[Nick]

She's cash. Those checks are cashing a thousand percent.

[Justin]

Yeah, the checks are cash.

[E]

She's a professional.

[Justin]

They served the most amazing meal I mean, this chef that Crystal had, he was amazing.

[Nick]

Made up for the lack of valet.

[Justin]

They made up for the. Yes, they did. The first thing they served was, like a shaved Brussels sprout salad. Thank you.

[Nick]

Shaved, not chopped?

[Justin]

Nope, it was shaved. It was shaven. And then some eggplants, some squash. I don't do all that. Then some vodka pasta, some salmon.

[Nick]

Was it better than mine?

[Justin]

It was very good. It was not better than yours. Nothing is better than yours.

[Nick]

Okay, thank you.

[Justin]

Some salmon, some chicken. So the chicken had pomegranate. Pomegranate seeds on it. Pomegranate seeds, not you.

[Sandy]

Making it even fancier.

[Justin]

And then before the dessert came, Crystal stood up. She gave a little speech thanking everyone for coming. How she is the new Oprah. She's giving diamonds to everyone. We all squealed, and then she said, dessert is now served. And it was a poached pear with Turkish Delight. No, I'll tell you exactly what it was, because, honestly.

[Nick]

What's that from?

[Sandy]

Turkish Delight?

[Nick]

Harry Potter.

[E]

Narnia.

[Sandy]

Witch in the Wardrobe. Lion. The Witch in the Wardrobe.

[E]

Oh, it's a dish.

[Nick]

No, no, but it's like.

[E]

Oh, yeah, they do.

[Justin]

They.

[E]

Yeah, they do. Be eaten. Turkish Delight in Narnia.

[Justin]

Yeah, it's a poached pear with. What do you think this is?

[Sandy]

Angel hair?

[E]

Like, the actual hair?

[Nick]

Can I see that?

[E]

Yeah.

[Justin]

What do you think that is, girl?

[E]

No clue.

[Justin]

Because I was a little. I was a little scared. Me and Tamara both were. We were like, is this a.

[E]

It looks like something that grows on something that's expired.

[Nick]

It looks like asbestos.

[E]

Yeah, it does look like asbestos.

[Nick]

Like something that you would stuff a.

[E]

Like, it looks like you could get messelthi mioma and might be entitled for financial compensation from your meal.

[Sandy]

Yeah, I'm not rich enough to know.

[Justin]

What this is exactly. And then I looked back at the menu, and it is called Turkish fairy.

[E]

Floss, of course, which is an ingredient in the substance.

[Nick]

How many fairies had to die for you guys to.

[Justin]

That's a great question.

[Nick]

I don't.

[Justin]

And then I was like, floss. Like, I don't love that name for a food. Like, is it. Am I. Is it hard? And then the server was like, it's a lot like cotton candy.

[Nick]

Oh, so nice.

[Justin]

And I'm like, oh, that's interesting to me. And Tamara do a little taste test. We record it, of course, and it is incredibly feathery, but melts in your mouth and has, like, a graham crackery taste. Wasn't mad about it. Was definitely a little. It stuck to My lip gloss.

[E]

Yeah.

[Justin]

I'm saying.

[E]

Yeah. Would you rather have eaten that or graham cracker?

[Justin]

A what?

[E]

Would you rather have eaten that or a graham cracker? Be honest.

[Justin]

I think I would have. I think I would have liked, like a warm graham cracker.

[Dorit]

Yeah.

[Justin]

I don't need like the crunch of like a warm, like maybe a little soft graham cracker. Could be fun.

[Nick]

But the presentation and the experience, obviously.

[Justin]

Yes, yes, of course. And then sitting along the table was a massive nine carat diamond ring that me and Tamara might have put in our shoe once or twice to walk out with. But we did return it and I think that should be a Christmas gift.

[Nick]

Oh, my God. Ideas for sure.

[Justin]

Yeah. So just going to throw that out there. It was nine carats. It was absolutely massive and it was stunning. And Crystal's daughter also was like, dad, I want this. And I was like, you got good taste.

[Sandy]

Why was a nine carat diamond ring on the table?

[Justin]

Oh, because there was just diamonds everywhere. There was tennis necklaces, there was earrings. There was.

[Sandy]

Were these up for purchase?

[Justin]

You know, I asked and it was like a. We're getting diamonds as a gift. This is to show, like, what else. Tokori. It was the brand Tokori has to offer.

[Nick]

Oh.

[Justin]

Which, you know, I'm like.

[Nick]

I mean, we're. We've been name dropping them like crazy.

[Justin]

I only said this is the one time I said it.

[Nick]

But I think that's worth a diamond. I think that's nine carats.

[Justin]

Right, Right. I would love to Corey.

[E]

Yeah, to Corey. Do your job. Send me our.

[Nick]

Vicky has told you how big our show is. Let's just be clear. So, like, I'm expecting that is true, that 9 carat diamond to be delivered promptly to our address.

[Sandy]

To Natalie. From Nick.

[Nick]

Yes.

[Dorit]

Yeah, with.

[Nick]

Absolutely. From your husband.

[Justin]

From her husband.

[Nick]

Yes.

[Justin]

Yes. To Corey. If you're listening, please, I am a size four and a half.

[Nick]

I couldn't tell you.

[Justin]

Anyways, perfect. So then dinner wraps. Me and MJ go to the bathroom, do a little photo shoot session. Brock shows up to pick up Sheena because she had to park 10 miles away. And, you know, everyone's kind of leaving. Then me, Crystal, Rob and Zooey Deschanel are all chatting at the end. You know, they're talking about their chefs. I'm talking about the Chick Fil a I had for lunch yesterday. You know, we're just on different spectrums of life. But Zoe's also a huge fan. She is boycotting Beverly Hills because of Crystal, which honestly I respect. Yeah, good. Friend. And then I left with several bags of things that I don't really know what's in there. A bottle of wine and some skincare and like a Monopoly board or something. I don't know. And that was it. And then Crystal sent me a photo today of me and Tamara at the dinner table, chit chatting.

[Nick]

What a lovely night.

[Sandy]

Yeah, truly lovely.

[Justin]

29 minutes of that. Hope you enjoyed it.

[Nick]

Do you think someday you will be hosting parties like this?

[Justin]

Well, Crystal did say, like, I. Rob, I am so sorry for the cost of this one. Next one will be cheaper, so.

[Nick]

But he got that Disney money.

[E]

Yeah.

[Sandy]

I don't think they're worried.

[Justin]

I don't think they're worried.

[Nick]

Lion King is super successful.

[E]

Yeah.

[Justin]

Yeah.

[E]

He could make Stuart Little three.

[Sandy]

I'm sure there's a tax write off somewhere in that. In that event.

[E]

Yeah, but there's gotta be also, like the Lion King that everyone likes. You know, no tea, no shade to the live action reboots.

[Nick]

But like, also no, I think shade is welcomed.

[E]

Oh, I can be honest. I hate them.

[Justin]

Oh my God, the live actions.

[Nick]

Yeah, yeah.

[E]

No, it's a classic Rob Minkoff. You're a goat for the Lion King.

[Justin]

Also, I have to say, I felt like I was like, you know, this is a big dinner. I like, should I need. I don't have a closed toed, pointed black heel. Oh, I don't have one. I don't own one. So I was like, I should.

[Nick]

She just to impress.

[Justin]

I should go and find one that I like. Well, I, you know, I was.

[Sandy]

Is that the bag you posted? Oh, my girl.

[Justin]

I posted and I was like, I've had these shoes. I posted a bag of. You don't Nick.

[Sandy]

Where it came from.

[Justin]

Nick doesn't watch my Instagram stories. Isn't that crazy? He doesn't watch them. Do you watch anyone's stories?

[Nick]

I try to say off long guys, I'm protecting my mental health.

[Dorit]

So he is.

[Justin]

Yeah. But sometimes I'm like, did you see what Rivy was doing today? And he's like, no. And I'm like, that would be so. You know, you could have. She was on the slide. She was wearing her cute little striped outfit with her two little.

[Nick]

I would love to come home and have my wife tell me about how her and my daughter's day was and not me.

[Justin]

Like, go look at my story.

[Sandy]

Maybe it's a good thing he's not looking at your story.

[Nick]

Like.

[E]

And subscribe and you can see how your daughter's doing.

[Justin]

True, true, true. And So I was like, I've had these shoes screenshotted on my phone for some time now since they released. And I was like, I'm just going to try them on. You know, whatever. So I go into St. Laurent on rodeo Drive, and I, you know, store's a little empty. Not a lot of people in there. All the workers are on their phones. And I'm like, okay, this is a good environment for me to step into. And I'm like, I would like to try those on in a size 38, please. He's like, we don't have that. And I'm like, okay, what do you have? He's like, we have a 40, which is a size 10, which is not my size. I'm an 8. And so I was like, I'll try it on. You know, I'll just see.

[Sandy]

Stuff it with some tissues.

[Justin]

Yeah. So I try on the 10, and I'm like, it's beautiful. It is absolutely massive on me, though. But it is beautiful. And he. I'm, like, looking at the other shoes, I'm like, let me try those on. I then come to find out I'm an eight and a half in these shoes. So I have on an eight and a half in one and the 10 of the shoe that I really like on the other. And I'm standing in the mirror, and I'm, like, looking, and I'm trying to decide, you know, like, do I really like these? Whatever. Whatever. A couple walks in, which I realize this is the biggest pet peeve of mine, and I hate it so much, and it might be a hot take, but. And I'm looking in the mirror for quite some time, and she goes, I like the black. Okay, Buy them. I. Why are you telling me what you like? Don't. I don't need a stranger giving me their opinion. Yeah, people did that to me when I was trying on wedding dresses. And I'm like, ma'am, you are not sitting on this couch with the bridesmaids and the mother of the bride. I don't need you to tell me which one you like.

[E]

Big mistake.

[Nick]

Is that what you called me? Yes, because she got your head.

[Justin]

She got in my head.

[Nick]

She FaceTimes me, and she's like, which ones? I'm like, the fuck if I know. Like, which ones do you like? I didn't even know at this point. We were talking about shoes that did and did not fit her. Yeah. And listen, my wife makes her own money. She doesn't need my permission. But we are a married couple with big dreams. And aspirations. And we like to, like, talk about big expenditures. But, like, she is going to this party, and, like, my baby deserves to treat herself to go and dress for impressed. She's sitting next to Paula Abdul.

[Sandy]

Sweet.

[E]

Yep.

[Justin]

And so I'm like, thanks. Yeah. The black's classic. Okay. Anyway, so then the sales associate comes out, and he's like, I found a 9. I can run and get it right now. And I'm like, well, this eight and a half fits perfectly. Let's try the nine. The nine in, like, the actual shoe that I wanted. Right, right. He's like, I'm gonna run. I'll be right back. And I'm like, okay. So he runs, he comes back. He's definitely breathing heavy, and there's a little bit of sweat. So I'm like, he was working. And, you know, like, pointed toe heels. You always got toe cleavage. You know what I'm talking about? Yuck. Not a fan. Don't like. Yes. It's not a good look for anyone. I don't know why they're making those shorter and shorter.

[Nick]

It's like, who knew the top of your feet could give you a muffin top?

[Justin]

Exactly. Like, no one needs to see all those creases. You know what I'm saying? And so the eight and a half was heavy on the toe cleavage. The nine, like, hit it a little bit better because there was a little extra room up there, you know?

[E]

Yeah.

[Justin]

So I was like, they kind of fit.

[Nick]

No. Here's what's. She's trying to convince herself it is okay to overspend in these shoes that don't fit her.

[Justin]

Well, they fit. There was, like, a centimeter behind my heel, and so I'm like, asking if they fit there.

[Nick]

Why did I scotch tape the bottoms?

[Justin]

Well, I haven't gotten there yet. And you're jumping through the story.

[Nick]

I just want to know.

[Justin]

So I'm like, there's a centimeter behind. And I'm asking the man, which. He's a man, like, what the. Does he know? You know, Nothing. He's like, I don't think they look fine. I'm like, he's just trying to make his commission. So two women walk in, and they're. And this. I'm asking their opinion, right? And they're looking and they're chatting, and they're. They're giving chic. And I'm like, do these look too big on me? And the girl's like, no. Well. And I'm like, do they? And she was like, walk around. Walk. And I'm like, okay, so I'm, I'm taking laps. She's like, no, I mean, like, if you, like, you took my eye to it, if I just saw you on the street, I'd be like, oh, cute shoes. I wouldn't be like, oh, my God, that girl's wearing two shoes. So I was like, okay, okay, I appreciate that. And so then I look at the guy and I'm like, let's get him. So he's like, I don't know where this party is in, like a house. And I'm like, it's in someone's backyard. He's like, you could like, tape the bottom of them. I was like, oh, interesting. He's like, if they're not scuffed, you could exchange for the eight and a half.

[E]

And I was like, he wants that commission so bad.

[Justin]

I'm like, is this.

[E]

I love that for him.

[Justin]

I literally was like, is this illegal? Is this a scam?

[E]

No, that's a good salesman.

[Justin]

Good salesman. I felt safe. Yeah. I was like, ugh, he's not going.

[E]

To steer you wrong.

[Justin]

No. And I was like, that is a great idea. I will tape the bottom of them. I'll wear them to this party. If they're not scuffed, I'll get the eight and a half. Tomorrow. They're scuffed. I will be keeping the nine. So that was my evening.

[Nick]

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[Katie Lee]

Did you wake up to a good Spotify rap at least?

[Justin]

I don't want to see anyone Spotify wrapped. I'll be honest.

[Nick]

Not even ours.

[Justin]

That is nice. It is nice to know that we are on people's Spotify wrapped, but the people who are posting them, we don't give a fuck. I don't care who the person you listen to the most this year.

[E]

I care. I care deeply.

[Justin]

You do?

[E]

Yeah. Spotify Wrapped is like my Christmas.

[Justin]

You're like, oh my God. You're like, oh my God. Benjamin, listen to Kodak Black nonstop. Like you care.

[E]

Yeah, Yeah, I care. Every time someone posts a playlist, if they post a song, if they post whatever. I'm like, thank you, Mary. I'm like, I care about this so much because you care about it. And also when I post my Playlist. This is an album release for me. You know what I mean? I'm like, this is very important.

[Justin]

I also don't care about. We don't need to be resharing our happy birthdays. I don't need to see anyone in your life post a photo of you for your birthday.

[E]

I don't care about.

[Nick]

I don't care about self promotion there. But like, selfishly, I do like it when our household lets people know her favorite show.

[Justin]

Of course.

[Nick]

Well, that's what you're telling. Shut the fuck up.

[Sandy]

She only likes it. And you post the Vile Files as your number one most listened podcast.

[Justin]

Yes, of course.

[Nick]

If we're in the top three, you can share top three.

[E]

Feel like four.

[Nick]

Yeah. For four. Like, honestly keep it like, oh my.

[E]

God, Jax was on top.

[Justin]

You know, like, I don't need to see. Yeah. I don't need to see all these people who are above us.

[E]

I gotta. I gotta be honest. Like the podcast episode. Not really paying attention to. I want to know the music.

[Nick]

Well, Taylor Swift is the number one most listened to artist of the year. Not shocking. Was she?

[E]

And anyone. Anyone here's wrapped.

[Nick]

I haven't. I don't. I don't know how to look.

[E]

You just go on.

[Nick]

I know what's on my rap. It's. It's called a podcast called Blue 80 packers podcast. Yeah. Okay.

[Justin]

You should look at your sweater.

[Nick]

It's got like six reviews. I'm one of four listeners.

[E]

Let's.

[Nick]

You're the.

[Sandy]

You're the.001% that listen to this every day.

[Nick]

Two speed. And I will listen to episodes two to three times.

[Sandy]

Like the same one. Yep. That's dedication.

[Nick]

No, it's because his voice is so soothing. It's just.

[Justin]

It just.

[Nick]

It brings me peace.

[Katie Lee]

Is it blue 58?

[Nick]

Blue 58. Yeah. Do you fall asleep to it sometimes? Yeah. Rock my daughter to it.

[Justin]

You know, Rivers, like I was hoping for like classical music and it's like. Well.

[Sandy]

At this point, Rivers first word. Touchdown.

[E]

She's like, good hustle.

[Nick]

Really.

[Justin]

Yeah.

[Nick]

What else we got going on?

[Katie Lee]

Sabrina was on Sierra's wrapped. Right.

[Sandy]

So many times. I didn't even know she is single.

[Dorit]

Please, please.

[Katie Lee]

She is single.

[Sandy]

She is single.

[Justin]

She is single.

[Sandy]

According to a source from People.

[Nick]

I forgot that her and Barry were dating. To be honest.

[Justin]

I honestly thought they broke up a while back.

[Sandy]

Yeah, they broke up, but I think they were like super public while they were together. And then they broke up publicly. Then they got back together low key. And then you just didn't see them together. I guess she was on tour, he was over here. But I guess.

[Justin]

Yes.

[Sandy]

According to a source, they have broken up again.

[Nick]

Wow. All right. She's gonna miss that huge D. Maybe. I don't know. Is that okay for me to say? I mean, he's out there being like. That was my.

[E]

Yeah. So, I mean, I think it's well within your right to say, you know.

[Justin]

I think it's also well within your right to say.

[E]

Yeah, I don't think he would be mad at you saying he has a big dick.

[Sandy]

It's also a true observation.

[Justin]

Right?

[Nick]

Yeah. Like, they'll both be fine.

[Dorit]

Yeah.

[Nick]

I think is a takeaway.

[E]

And she's like, like, literally serving every night.

[Nick]

I mean, I see her everywhere.

[Justin]

Literally. Her Juno positions. It's like I wake up and I'm like, what was the new position? I need to know the one of her. Have you ever tried?

[Nick]

Do you think she's as much of a freak as she pretends to be?

[Justin]

No, no, we're all pretending to be.

[Sandy]

I think it's great marketing.

[E]

Have you guys. Have you guys seen. There was like. It was like, Stan Twitter or something. And it was this, like, teenager that was like, people were getting mad that Sabrina Carpenter wasn't a good, like, role model for K kids. And this, like, kid on Twitter was like, I'm 17 and afraid of Sabrina Carpenter. And everyone's just, like, clowning this kid on Twitter. And now it's like a thing. They made hats.

[Justin]

It's crazy that her show is very sexual. She's in lingerie and yet it's like, not for men at all.

[E]

No.

[Justin]

You know, it, like, just shows that.

[E]

Like, it's like, we're being sexy. To be sexy.

[Justin]

We're being sexy.

[E]

It's like, not male gazey at all. She's doing draft bag.

[Justin]

Like, have you ever tried this one? It's my favorite thing ever.

[E]

Shout out. Sabrina, you're gonna be fine. You don't need Barry.

[Nick]

Okay?

[Justin]

She doesn't need Barry.

[Nick]

Mattel sued over Wicked dolls. Oh. As they should be. I can't believe they put a porn site like, come on. Protect your children. What the are you doing, Mattel? Wicked. Whose fault is it? Is it Wicked or is it Mattel's who sued them?

[Katie Lee]

Mattel is getting sued by a South Carolina resident who's launching us a class action lawsuit, basically claiming that they didn't offer a refund and believes she and her child suffered emotional distress. And she specifically said her.

[Nick]

No, her children.

[Katie Lee]

She said these scenes were hardcore Full on nude pornographic images depicting actual intercourse. Plaintiff's minor daughter immediately showed her mother the photographs and both were horrified by what they saw.

[Nick]

For those who don't know, these Mattel Wicked dolls on the box have, like, wicked.com and turns out wicked.com is a porn site. And the Wicked Movie.

[Justin]

Wicked Movie.

[Nick]

Something like. Just not Wicked Doc. I don't know. But anyways, apparently Mattel doesn't have enough of employees to like, fact check or do like a quick like www. Like, is this a porn site dot com.

[Sandy]

I swear, nobody proofreads anymore.

[Justin]

No, like, there has been.

[E]

ChatGPT is writing this copy.

[Justin]

There has been some man or someone's husband who was like, I know the site. Yeah, I've been on the site when it says.

[Katie Lee]

It says Mattel pulled from the shelves. Pulled all the dolls from the shelves and then issued that statement that we read, like, weeks ago.

[Justin]

So I'm honestly shocked there's not more lawsuits coming for that. I feel like there's a lot of sue happy people in this world and like, this would have been.

[Nick]

This one is actually deserving this.

[Justin]

Yeah, but this is like, such an opportunity for people to be like, oh, my hurt it killed. Heard my family pornography is destroyed.

[Katie Lee]

Yeah, it's a class action, so it invites other people to join.

[Sandy]

Ooh, and it's also Mattel, Mattel and.

[Katie Lee]

Universal both declined to comment. So.

[E]

Yeah, what are they gonna say? Sorry, your kid. Like, my thing is like, obviously it's bad, but these kids can find wicked.com no matter what. You know what I mean?

[Nick]

Like, they can get, but they shouldn't be, like, informed.

[E]

Yes, I agree.

[Nick]

In case you haven't heard.

[Sandy]

Maybe it's just me, but I was like, as a kid, like, I just ripped the doll out of the box. Like, who's reading the back of the box? I know, I know, I know.

[Justin]

I'm totally against it.

[Sandy]

All I'm saying is I'm just like, who's going to the website?

[E]

The parents. The parents are seeing it. The kids aren't actually. You know what I mean? Also, kids do not know what WWW dot means. If it was an app. Sure. Worldwide.

[Nick]

It's not the point.

[E]

I know. Yeah, but it's just so funny.

[Nick]

What is this? Only fans Top earner is a virgin and a devout Christian.

[Sandy]

Yep.

[Nick]

She hauled in $43 million. Sophie Rain says she's a virgin. Okay.

[E]

And a flirty Floridian and a devout.

[Justin]

Why is that? Like, why is this news?

[Katie Lee]

She made 40.

[Nick]

She makes the $43 million.

[Katie Lee]

She made 43 million in one year on the website. But she did. She didn't have sex.

[Nick]

Is she not posting?

[Justin]

I don't think a lot of them are having sex.

[Dorit]

Just to clarify, I can confirm that she posts nudes.

[Justin]

What? What was that? That.

[Nick]

Is Zach a member of the household that.

[Justin]

Did you do research?

[Nick]

Yeah. Zach. Huh.

[Justin]

How was your night last night?

[Dorit]

Why? This story caught my eye when we were. You recognized her name, so I did some research. And yes, I can confirm no porn, but yes nudes.

[Nick]

Okay. All right.

[Justin]

And how are the nudes? Are they.

[E]

Were they good?

[Katie Lee]

They giving 43 million?

[Justin]

43.

[Nick]

43 million worth.

[Dorit]

I mean, why? I use the company credit card.

[E]

The vials is the number one.

[Nick]

This was a business expense, so it's through our account. Jesus Christ. But. So there are. There are.

[Justin]

I'll check it out later.

[Nick]

Then when I saw, when I saw this headline then I was just like, oh, she's a virgin. She's. She's not.

[Justin]

Like a lot of them are not doing.

[Nick]

We need to all be on only fans.

[Justin]

A lot of them are not. Not having sex with OnlyFans.

[Nick]

We need to all be an OnlyFans.

[Sandy]

I think so.

[Nick]

I think every member of this household should start an OnlyFans account.

[Justin]

And you don't have to ask me twice.

[E]

Yeah. Hey guys. Comment, comment. Whose Onlyfans? You want to see?

[Dorit]

Oh God.

[Nick]

It's all free, right? Like, let's just see what we can do.

[E]

Yeah.

[Sandy]

If I can come close to 43 million.

[Nick]

Why is Tom Sandoval not on OnlyFans yet?

[Sandy]

Because the obsession.

[E]

Because as this girl would agree, God exists and is keeping people safe.

[Justin]

Yeah. I think the like, I'm a devout Christian. Like probably leans into some sort of kink fetish.

[E]

Defin have and good for her. For like, for. And listen, letting go, letting God.

[Justin]

God forgives.

[E]

He does.

[Nick]

He does. Yeah.

[Sandy]

Larsa Pippen said that she made six figures just doing foot photos.

[Justin]

Yeah. You know who is not?

[Nick]

You want that nine carat ring?

[Justin]

I do want that nine carat ring, but I. I feel like maybe I could do a couple of different avenues before I hit only fans. I don't know.

[Nick]

Maybe no nudes for sure. No, no.

[Justin]

What? Just like me smiling? Like, what are you wanting?

[Nick]

Honestly, I think there's a market for literally anything. I don't. I don't think we're going to make 43 mil.

[Justin]

Right.

[E]

But she says this job makes dating difficult. Yeah. And she expresses frustration to with suitors who are just trying to date her for her body. Not for who she is as a person, which has to be upsetting.

[Justin]

That does have to be.

[E]

But 43 million may make that a little bit less upsetting.

[Nick]

Yeah.

[E]

Because at least you're, like, crying in a nice pillow, you know, Bentley.

[Justin]

That's true.

[Nick]

Yeah.

[Sandy]

Rather be crying in a Bentley than on a bike. You're already married, so.

[Nick]

Oh, yeah.

[Justin]

That's not you. That's true. You know who's not a virgin? Oh, Barbara Corcoran.

[Nick]

Okay.

[Justin]

Corin. She has short sex with her husband, and she is not afraid to scream it from the rooftops.

[Nick]

She still having sex?

[Justin]

Yeah. Well, yeah. I don't know how much they do have because she admitted that she and her husband, who got married in 1988, do that math. I cannot. They do sleep in separate bedrooms, and she joked that that ensures that sex is a quote, unquote, short thing. And this is so funny because she. Her idea of a special night with her husband is a good game of Scrabble. He'll often say to me, s or S, And I'll say Scrabble because the first S means sex. So I say, no Scrabble. So S or S. I aspire to.

[Nick]

Have that level of communication.

[Justin]

Yeah, that is good. Yeah, that is good.

[E]

S or S. Yeah, I love beating him at Scrabble, and he loves beating me at Scrabble, and that's a great night.

[Justin]

Honestly, that would be. That's really relatable.

[E]

Horny Scrabble. Yeah, that's what I.

[Justin]

Naked Scrabble.

[E]

Naked Scrabble. Strip Scrabble.

[Nick]

So what is this? Andy Cohen is basically explaining and justifying the Vanderpump reboot similar to the Roni reboot. How is that a good thing?

[Katie Lee]

Yeah, I mean, he basically said he. To dumb it down. He said it was the right timing, it was the right thing to do. It season 11 set it up for, like, a closing period. And then he said, well, we did it with Roni.

[Justin]

Oh, well. And it failed. Yeah.

[Sandy]

Not the Flex. It is.

[Nick]

Yeah.

[Justin]

Because Paul Abdul hates Ron. So that tells you anything.

[E]

I'm Team Paula. Always have been since American Idol.

[Nick]

It's not good.

[Justin]

It's not good.

[Nick]

Let's just call a spade a spade.

[Sandy]

I'm still watching it in hopes, like, last night's episode was okay, but I'm like, again, we need more drama than all of you talking shit about each other. And who said what?

[Nick]

And it's not even real shit.

[Sandy]

That's what I'm saying. It's not even like.

[Dorit]

Yeah, it's not even real.

[Sandy]

Drama being talked about.

[E]

I just want Jenna Lyons to have her own show. Like, that's the only reason I'm watching at that point is for my.

[Nick]

Like, I mean, I know you love her and all, but like. And as a human being, I aspire to be her friend. Yeah, but she's not a good.

[E]

No, no, no, no. I think they should reboot like Project Runway. Project Runway with Jenna L. I'm there for that. Yeah. I want her to like, read these kids to filth is what I. I.

[Nick]

Think she's too nice.

[E]

Not if she was hosting Project Runway. I think she could lean in.

[Sandy]

I don't know. She was eating a salad during her sale and got up to hug strangers.

[Justin]

I was like this.

[E]

She's going to be too nice.

[Nick]

She's a good person.

[Sandy]

She's a nice person.

[E]

100% the best. I love you too.

[Katie Lee]

Rebecca Minkoff did say that the prank was a big mistake.

[Justin]

Good.

[Nick]

I'm glad she's acknowledging for pointing out the obvious, Rebecca.

[Dorit]

Yeah.

[Justin]

And I am sorry, but it is too late.

[E]

Yeah, yeah. Your suck already ruined it.

[Justin]

Yeah.

[Sandy]

You like single handedly bombed the show with two episodes of a prank that wasn't funny.

[E]

Maybe it's a big thing. Maybe Scientology didn't want Roni to continue.

[Sandy]

This Britain Whitfield's giving us a real problem.

[Justin]

Scientology was like the S word was like, do you know who trouble they were like, we are going to end the show because you cannot be on it, so why don't you do this?

[E]

Yeah. And she was like, okay.

[Nick]

Ariana Mannix reacts to claims of cropping. What did she say? Did she admit to it or not admit to it?

[Katie Lee]

So she did her goodbye post for Vanderpump recast.

[Nick]

You know, like last week it was announced that they are doing this reboot and then, you know, you had all the cast of Vanderpump posting their like, goodbyes. My thing, my favorite was James Kennedy where he was like typing about how he's like, I'm crying. Like when people said I'm holding back tears, I'm holding back. Like when people talk about crying in their messages is finding. It's like it's right next to like the whole like recording herself crying Anyways, but Ariana posted some very curated photos of herself and some of her besties and excluding some obvious members of the cast to which people reacted to.

[Dorit]

Yeah.

[Nick]

And what did she say?

[Katie Lee]

Well, so Lala, Sandoval and Jacks were the ones that didn't ever make an.

[Nick]

Appearance in Ariana's post.

[Katie Lee]

In Ariana's post, and it was like 10 slides, and there was. It was a collage, so there was probably around like, 20 to 30 images in the 10 slides. So she responded to comments. So one comment was living for this carefully curated photo selection. She responded, I wish I could do more slides. I had a lot more things. Maybe another post, another comment said, just here for all the cropped photos and thanking everyone but the cast, because a lot of the photos had, like, crew members and producers and everybody else. And she responded, that's what the pictures are for, Pookie.

[Nick]

Why are you just running Ariana?

[Justin]

Yeah, like, you know, just stand by your move.

[E]

Yeah.

[Nick]

You know, when you acknowledge trolls, you validate trolls. Like, as soon as you start communicating with people in the comments, like, you're validating their, like, their opinions. I don't understand why. Just. Just. Just be petty.

[Justin]

Yeah, it's like, if you don't. Yeah, it's like, if you don't fuck with these people, don't fuck with these.

[Nick]

Don't have to explain it. I don't know.

[E]

Certainly not Pooky.

[Justin]

And I also, like, think people should understand her not wanting to post her ex. No. Like, why are you, like.

[Nick]

Or Jazz or anyone, quite frankly, she.

[Justin]

Doesn'T get along with. She's not friends with. Like, I'm sorry, I'm not posting pictures with people I'm not friends with. That's weird.

[Nick]

Yeah.

[E]

She's trying, like, post about the best days of her lives, and they probably weren't in those.

[Sandy]

Like, they did not.

[Nick]

We all got paid. I don't need to thank them for, like, co starring with me, you know, like, fuck, man. Like, the fans should. Could. Could thank them.

[Sandy]

Go look at their post. You want to see their photos.

[Nick]

Like, imagine, like, thanking, like, you know, like, oh, you know, coming off the Bachelor and be like, I'm so. So thank you. Thankful, like, making sure I post, like, every person I was ever on the show with, as if, like, I need to thank them.

[E]

No, you're also posting the pictures that you look the hottest in.

[Nick]

Probably. That's all I'm posting.

[E]

Yeah. And also, like, crop exists for a reason, and I think not using it is, like, worse than not cropping.

[Nick]

I think it's really great when you crop. Not enough to, like, you let people know that you are cropping and you show just a little bit of the person that they like, they can figure out who you're cropping. But it's, you know, that's the best that is.

[E]

And that's kind of what she was doing.

[Nick]

This is amazing. So own your pettiness, Ariana. Just leave.

[E]

Well, I think she was trying to do the petty with using the word pookie, but I don't.

[Nick]

I'm sorry. Once you. Once you engage with trolls, you lose. You give the power to the trolls. There is no good comeback to the Internet. You are lowering yourself to their level.

[Justin]

But you know who else is petty being trying to be petty right now? Britney from Salt Lake City. Because she claims to have got the same Saint Laurent heart jacket, but I will say hers looks a little flimsy.

[Dorit]

She also.

[Katie Lee]

She didn't claim she was just wearing it at a YSL store.

[Justin]

She's wearing it outside of the ysl. Like she went to the mall. She's wearing a red fur shawl.

[Nick]

So she had her friend sew it and then showed up to a ysl.

[Katie Lee]

But it's a little flat.

[Justin]

It's giving. It's. Yeah, it's a little flat. It's a little floppy.

[Nick]

It's giving.

[Sandy]

DYI or no, I think it's still a ysl.

[E]

Diy.

[Nick]

Diy.

[Sandy]

Yeah, I think it's still a YSL piece. But the ones that her Rihanna have are like big and structured. Raquel on Roni wore the same one that Britney had in this week's episode. And it's very much like flimsy, does not hold the same shape. So I do think that Bronman's not lying about them being like three of that type of structure.

[Justin]

Yeah, Three heart structures. Millions of shelf shawls.

[Sandy]

Yeah.

[Justin]

Red fur shawls.

[E]

I don't know her tick. Britney's TikTok has been like, popping off, though. It's the funniest thing in the world. Her dressing up green on fire right now. Dressing up green in the streets and singing wicked.

[Sandy]

Streets of Vegas.

[Justin]

The streets of Vegas. I need Bronwyn to respond and be like, babe, we both know that is.

[E]

Not the same, but it's perfect for Britney.

[Nick]

I love them both.

[E]

Gets who her character is now.

[Nick]

I could be friends with Bron, but I love Britney so much as a housewife, I don't. You know, I could be friendly with Britney. You know, I could definitely offer some advice.

[Sandy]

As long as you don't put Bronwyn and Britney in the same sentence, you're good.

[Nick]

Well, according to. But I am. I absolutely love them both. And I just. I think they both deserve all of our love and affection and respect and credit because I think these were huge shoes to fit and they have filled him. Amazing. I mean, for Britney to be off a couple episodes and for us to feel that.

[E]

I miss her.

[Nick]

I missed her so much. It was just like, oh, thank God she's back on my TV screen.

[E]

Every time she opens her mouth, I'm stunned by what comes out of it. Like, it's incredible.

[Nick]

So good.

[E]

It's so good. What about me?

[Justin]

No, it was perfect.

[E]

I love her.

[Sandy]

What about you, girl?

[E]

What about you?

[Nick]

Well, speaking of talking more about bravo, we got obviously to get into the ultimatum, which just released. We're gonna talk about the first episod. And we got the wonderful Katie Lee, an American cookbook author, also former ex wife of Billy Joel, but more importantly, reality TV fan and fanatic. And she is up next to talk about all things reality TV with us. Before we get to that, so many topics I actually wish we had a chance to talk about. We will be talking about it this Friday on Pop Extra. Your vial files plus pop culture topic that we drop every week and talk about. Your favorite topics we didn't get to talk about on reality Recap.

[Justin]

Some of the topics are. Chloe Kardashian claims for therapy leaked private information from her session to a tabloid. That is insane and so crazy. I cannot believe that happened. Eminem's half brother Nate reacts to his mom's death in a scathing post. Traitor Season 3 trailer. New cast of Sold on SLC. It's giving another thing. Mormon wives. Salt Lake City. We know.

[Nick]

We love Salt Lake City.

[Justin]

They're popping off.

[Nick]

Is that the new Hollywood? Salt Lake City?

[Justin]

It's a new Hollywood. Lala Kent is. Is. Is whitening her 3 year old's teeth and she is defending it in the.

[Nick]

Not backing.

[Justin]

She's not backing down. She is editing her 3 year old's photos and she doesn't care what you think about it.

[Nick]

When you say she's whitening her teeth, you mean like online or literally in.

[Justin]

Her photos in an app.

[Nick]

And people are caring why?

[Sandy]

Because.

[Justin]

Because people just have issues with everything. Kyle and Amanda tease there will be a threesome in the upcoming season. And it's not them. That's it anyway. And so much more.

[Nick]

It's now time for Vibes versus Stabs.

[E]

Okay, you guys, over Thanksgiving break, I was really holding space and I was reflecting on what I've learned about football in my time as the Vile Files resident sports analyst.

[Nick]

Thank you.

[E]

And you know what I realized? I don't really like, I can't really get into men playing sports that much. But you know what I can get into? Powerful woman. Okay, so this Week, I think we should play a game called who's Cooler? And why Is It Always the Woman? In which I will read off some stats about each member of a football couple and you will tell me who is cooler.

[Nick]

Okay?

[E]

And they're not going to be leading. These are genuine reactions I want from you guys. Okay? Starting off with our first matchup, the Detroit Lions versus the Green Bay Packers. The game is tonight, and for the Lions, we have quarterback Jared Goff, who, as I said last week, does look like he thinks salt is spicy, and his wife, Christian Harper, who is a Sports Illustrated model and actress. So who's cooler? Jared Goff, who completed 21 of 34 passes for 220 yards, scoring two touchdowns in a game last week, or Christian Harper, who made it to the final 15 of the 2021 annual Sports Illustrated Swimsuit Model Search and selected as one of six models to appear in the magazine. And was also in a short film called Sevens Eleven when she was 11, about a group of kids who have a candy heist to steal all the candy from a seven.

[Justin]

Eleven.

[Nick]

Who's cooler?

[Justin]

Oh, my God.

[Dorit]

Christian, by far.

[Justin]

Definitely a movie about taking over film. A short film.

[E]

Thank you.

[Justin]

About taking over a seven. 11 is honestly.

[Nick]

And he was, what, 21 for 33?

[E]

You said 21 of 34 for two and 14 points.

[Justin]

That's all he got.

[Nick]

So he missed 13 passes. Terrible.

[Justin]

Oh, my God.

[E]

Yeah, ESPN.

[Justin]

She definitely is cooler.

[E]

She's definitely cooler. Okay, so. Woman 1 Woman. All right, next up, packers quarterback Jordan Love, who I will not choose joke about because I really like my job. And his fiance, Veronica Stone, who is a professional volleyball player. But who's cooler? Jordan Love, who's ranked number 17 in fantasy football quarterbacks, or Veronica Stone, who led the Pro Volleyball Federation and hitting percentage as the middle blocker of the San Diego Mojo. A female athlete.

[Nick]

Let's be clear. Veronica Stone is an amazing name.

[Justin]

Incredible name.

[E]

Veronica Stone, volleyball player for the San Diego. Mojo.

[Justin]

Mojo.

[E]

Mojo.

[Justin]

You heard it here first. Definitely her.

[E]

Yeah.

[Justin]

17 on fantasy football. It's not good. Who's number one? Doesn't matter. 17 is crazy.

[E]

I think it fluctuates.

[Justin]

Not good.

[E]

I don't know. That's what ESPN was saying from yesterday.

[Justin]

Okay, so I have to go. Veronica Stone. She sounds like a superhero.

[E]

Yeah.

[Sandy]

Truly.

[E]

All right, here comes the hard part.

[Justin]

Oh, my God.

[E]

So to pick this game, you're gonna have to pick who you would rather hang out with. Christian Harper or Veronica Stone.

[Justin]

I have to go. Veronica Stone. I have to go. Veronica Stone.

[E]

So we're going Packers.

[Sandy]

I think we have to go Packers. Yeah. Sorry, you're gonna have to vote for the Lions this time.

[Nick]

No, I'm gonna go for the.

[E]

We're all going Packers. We love the Packers. We love the Packers. We would never say anything bad about the Packers. Go, Pac, go.

[Justin]

Okay.

[Sandy]

The number one fantasy football quarterback is.

[Justin]

Josh Allen, which got his 14 points on one play.

[Nick]

That doesn't make sense. Yeah. Happily married to another very successful, very cool woman, I was gonna say.

[Justin]

Just kidding.

[Sandy]

It's actually Jalen hurts as of this week.

[Nick]

Oh.

[Sandy]

So my bad.

[Justin]

My God.

[Sandy]

Josh on this number two.

[E]

Well, let's get into the number two. Game two. Our next matchup, the Los Angeles fans versus the Buffalo Bills. For the Rams, quarterback Matthew Stafford, who is from Tampa, Florida, and went to the University of Georgia, and his wife, Kelly Stafford, who has a football podcast. So is a woman in stem. Who's cooler? Matthew Staff Stafford, who suffered a lateral ankle sprain last week but is powering through. Or Kelly Stafford, who revealed on her podcast that she one time dated one of Matthew's backup quarterbacks in college to make him jealous.

[Justin]

Honestly, like, that's kind of iconic. Kind of iconic. Yeah. To be, like, happily married with children and be like. Yeah, but, like, in college, I did this to him. Exactly. I dated his roommate.

[E]

He probably deserved it. No, his backup quarterback.

[Justin]

Oh, my God. To make him Jack of quarterback is crazy. Honestly, it's a power move. It's a power move and I respect her being like, I'll tell it right now.

[E]

Exactly. I'll say it.

[Justin]

I'll say it.

[Nick]

Yeah.

[E]

She did end up apologizing to the backup quarterback's family, though.

[Justin]

Yeah.

[E]

Because then people started. People started talking about, which, like, she was just telling a story. She wasn't saying anything, but, like, he's happily, like, married.

[Justin]

Yeah.

[Nick]

That's a little messy.

[E]

A little messy.

[Justin]

A little messy.

[E]

Kelly.

[Justin]

I do like that. I think it's was powering through his injury.

[E]

He is powering through his injury.

[Nick]

His injury from his wife's embarrassment or the ankle.

[Dorit]

Walk it off.

[Justin]

Probably both.

[E]

I would imagine the streets are saying.

[Nick]

Matthew Stafford did throw me a pass when I was at the Rams Packer game.

[E]

Okay.

[Nick]

That's catch the football. Okay.

[Justin]

Yeah.

[E]

And the streets are saying his ankle's going to be fine and he's going to play in this game.

[Nick]

Okay.

[E]

Yeah. And then we have the Buffalo Bills.

[Nick]

Yes.

[E]

Who is the recently engaged Josh Allen. And Hailee Steinfeld. Who's cooler? Josh Allen, who's the front runner for league MVP this year. Or Hailee Steinfeld, who nominated for an Oscar for true GR at 13, was in Pitch Perfect 2, the babble and music video Bumblebee the spider verse movie. And played renowned poet and famous lesbian Emily Dickinson in a television show that was very unappreciated and canceled. Too soon.

[Sandy]

I think the answer is quite obvious.

[Justin]

Haley.

[E]

Yeah.

[Justin]

Yeah. I'm gonna have to go. Josh Allen. I was appalled. I'm kidding. No, yeah, definitely. Haley. Sorry, Josh.

[E]

Yeah, sorry, Josh. But now, who would you rather hang out with in the stands?

[Justin]

Steinfelder.

[E]

So Bills.

[Justin]

Bills it is.

[Nick]

I'll go Rams.

[Justin]

Okay, okay, okay, okay.

[E]

All right.

[Justin]

I like it.

[Nick]

All right, well, that's it for VI's versus stats. Up next, the incomparable celebrity chef Katie Lee. Vessi is a footwear company that makes waterproof, breathable shoes. And when they say waterproof, they mean 100% completely waterproof. As we get closer to the holidays, Vessi ensures you're ready for every adventure. Whether you're exploring urban hideaways or enjoying the season's vibrant energy, Vessi has you covered for all season surprises.

[Justin]

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[Nick]

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[Justin]

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[Nick]

Well, the deodorant wipes are literally a life hack. Wherever you go, your deodorant wipe should be in your purse, your bag, your car, wherever you go. Because sometimes, listen let you either forget to put deodorant on or we don't put on enough. And you don't want to get trapped in public stinking up. And all you got to do is bring out those deodorant wipes, wipe whatever it is that stinks and you are ready to go. You don't have to take off your shirt, you don't have to like go find deodorant. You don't have to freak out. You just got to take out your Lumi deodorant wipes and you're ready to dominate.

[Justin]

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[Nick]

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[Dorit]

Great. How are you guys?

[Nick]

So good. Thanks for joining. Excited to have you.

[Dorit]

Thanks for having me.

[Nick]

First of all, your kitchen looks beautiful.

[Justin]

I was just going to call.

[Dorit]

Well, thank you. You all look very festive.

[Nick]

Oh, thank you. That's Justin decorated for us.

[Dorit]

Did a good job.

[Nick]

Producer slash interior designer of the show. Are you cooking something right now or is that like Just a piece that sits on top of the stove. Can you give us some kitchen decor advice?

[Dorit]

It just sits there looking pretty.

[E]

Okay.

[Dorit]

I like to have my little crusade pots. I usually put one on the stove because I think they just look nice.

[Justin]

Thank you for saying that the correct way. I've been calling it the. So I do appreciate the correct terminology of that.

[Nick]

We have the same one in orange, I think.

[Justin]

Is it orange?

[Nick]

I think it's orange.

[Justin]

I don't think it would look as good on our.

[Nick]

White's pretty good.

[Justin]

The white is pretty. I would love.

[Dorit]

I love those pots.

[Justin]

I would love to know what would you put in a secret sauce?

[Dorit]

A secret sauce?

[Justin]

Like a tangy, like, you know, like a burger sauce or, you know, everyone has, like, their own burger sauce.

[Dorit]

Well, the burger sauce is usually just mayonnaise and ketchup with some pickle relish in there. I think if you want to take it up just a little bit, put about a tablespoon of the pickle brine in it, and that'll just enhance the flavor, and it gives a little bit more acid and a little more salt.

[Justin]

Love that.

[Nick]

Try that out.

[Justin]

Wow. I will try that out. My go to. And I'd love to know your take on it. Is mayo sweet Thai chili sauce, hot sauce and honey and a little chili.

[Dorit]

I mean, what could be bad about that? That sounds delicious.

[Justin]

Delish. Okay.

[Nick]

I just. I don't eat it, but I know how to make it for.

[Justin]

He does. I put it on everything. Like a breakfast sandwich. I put it. I make like, these chicken bowls. I'll put it. I put it on a taco. I'll drink it out of the container. You know, up for. Anyone can do what they want. It's pretty good.

[Dorit]

I love mayonnaise, period.

[Justin]

Yeah, mayonnaise. I. I love mayonnaise, too. Nick. Nick is an anti mayonnaise.

[Nick]

I'm. I'm anti mayonnaise. Yeah. I'm an anti manti. Yeah.

[Dorit]

Do you like ketchup?

[Nick]

Not really. No. Only with fries. What? Yeah. I definitely was not a ketchup kid. For sure.

[Dorit]

Wow.

[Nick]

I was a mustard kid. I know. Olive oil and mustard. That's really olive oil.

[Dorit]

That's so different. So where did you grow up?

[Nick]

Wisconsin. Yeah, no, it's. It's a. It's a. Not a. A product of my environment. It's a product of my dysfunctional brain. Yeah. Like, it's my eating habits, my whole family.

[Dorit]

Picky eater particular.

[Nick]

Yeah. I like things a certain way, Katie. For sure.

[Dorit]

Yeah.

[Nick]

There's just some things I don't eat. You know, I, I, I picky. I find to be a bit triggering of a word, a little judgmental, if I'm being honest.

[Justin]

I learned.

[Dorit]

I learned, isn't it?

[Justin]

I learned this about him the incredibly hard way when he came to visit me in the first time in Georgia for the first time, and I got a, A late flight. I'll cook him dinner. That's fun. I did a grilled chicken. I did sweet potatoes. I did brussel sprouts with goat cheese and balsamic vine. Oh, my God.

[Dorit]

Amazing.

[Justin]

And he comes into the house and makes a plate with like one brussels sprout, a sliver of a sweet potato. And I'm like, what's going on here? And he's like, I actually hate sweet potatoes. And I like Brussels sprouts with just, just the Brussels sprouts. No vinegar, nothing on them. No.

[Nick]

No butter and salt. It's a little olive oil.

[E]

You don't like Brussels?

[Dorit]

Sometimes you have to just eat it, even if you don't really want to. Yeah, because she was cooking for you.

[Nick]

Yeah. No, no. That's where my flaws start coming.

[Justin]

He can't, he can't choke down.

[Nick]

Yeah, I tried to. There was this whole Thanksgiving episode with meatballs and turkey that really, you know. Yeah. We don't want to waste your time, Katie, telling you that story.

[Dorit]

That's so funny.

[Nick]

You're watching Bev Hills.

[Dorit]

Oh, I love Bev Hills. Bev Hills and Salt Lake City are my two number ones. I am having problems with Ron right now.

[Nick]

No, that's because it sucks balls, Katie.

[Justin]

Yeah, we all are.

[Nick]

We, we tried our hardest to cover it for a while. We pretended it was good even when we knew it wasn't. Now we're not lying anymore. We're just.

[Dorit]

It's just not. And like, the way that they spent the whole episode on the prank, like, there's that little happening on the show that they have to devote a whole episode to something that didn't even happen.

[E]

Yeah, yeah.

[Nick]

Meanwhile, then you turn on Salt Lake City, and Lisa Barlow is refusing to get on an airplane because she refuses to fly anything other than first class. And she's not fucking around. She, you know, she's dead serious. And that is the authenticity that we love and appreciate.

[Dorit]

See, the thing about Salt Lake City is that every episode would be a season finale of another franchise.

[Nick]

Yes.

[E]

Salt Lake City is one of the best shows on television ever. Ever.

[Justin]

Great way to imagine.

[Dorit]

I'm going tonight to hear Heather gay at the 92nd Street. Why she's doing live. She's doing a live. But Bryn is interviewing her, so I kind of wish that they gotten somebody. I mean, nothing against Bryn, but, you know, I'm just not like, big on Roni right now. And I'm going to see Heather right after this. I'm interviewing her for my podcast and I'm dying. I, like, stalked her to get this.

[Nick]

Tell her we said hi. Definitely tell her to stop being such a chicken shit.

[Justin]

Oh, my gosh.

[Nick]

For coming on this show. No, tell her that.

[Justin]

Oh, my gosh.

[Dorit]

Well, you don't have to say those words.

[Nick]

No, no, not your words. Be like, Nick says, stop being a chicken. Just. Just relay.

[Dorit]

Nick says, come on.

[Justin]

Yeah. No. Yes. That is the love that Katie. Nick says, come on.

[Nick]

She's aware I want her on, but I met. When I met Heather, she pitched herself to come on the show and then chickened out.

[Dorit]

So, hey, listen, she's got a book to sell. Maybe things are different now.

[Justin]

That's true.

[E]

She is a good time girl, but.

[Nick]

Wish her well because we love her. I mean, Sarah doesn't, but I. Yeah.

[Dorit]

So can we go back for one second to Lisa Barlow on the not getting on the first class plane? Here's what I wanted to know about that whole situation was why did they fly private there and then they were flying commercial home. Like, wouldn't you just, like, the plane would be there for the two days and then you fly at home. Like, was that just for show? Because they wanted to look like they're on this big private plane, but then they couldn't pay to bring it back?

[Justin]

That's a good point. And it's also like, if you're not gonna fly private, at least be like, hey, girls, got you flight. Got you private here, not private back. So, like, I can get your tickets, but they will be coach surprises that.

[Nick]

Daddy Starbucks maybe doesn't quite independently own that plane, but maybe like. Like it's like as like a co op. Like a. They. Like, they share it together. Together, Right. Or something.

[Dorit]

I think it was definitely a charter, but I think that it was like, they probably weren't going to show that they were flying commercial home, but when the situation happened about having to fly in coach, then it became a storyline.

[Nick]

And that's a professional, though. Lisa, she sees. She saw the opportunity and she seized. That's. That's.

[E]

She'll go the distance.

[Sandy]

Or Bronwyn just knew she was about to get $5 million worth of diamonds and was like, yeah, these bitches can take home.

[Nick]

You can fly Your friends home, or you can have this necklace.

[Dorit]

Did she get to keep that necklace, though? Because remember, when they showed her the necklace, she said, we'll think about it. And I think that she was borrowing it for the weekend.

[Nick]

I think she kept it. We could text her and ask her to prove it. Send us.

[Sandy]

We did ask her.

[Dorit]

These are the things I want to know.

[Nick]

Yeah, okay. All right, I will. I won't do it right now, but I will text Brawin and being like, is it real? Can you prove it?

[Sandy]

Send the photo.

[Nick]

I am trying to double date with her and Todd, though. I do. I do.

[Justin]

I. I don't want to be there because I don't. I. I don't need.

[Nick]

I think he'd be great.

[Justin]

I think he would be like, I would just maybe be a little nervous to maybe be around him. It's like, I would say something and he would be like, don't say that. You know, and maybe I would. I. I don't know how well I would be in that environment, you know.

[Dorit]

Uncomfortable when he's on the scenes. Like, I'm worried that he's going to. About something.

[Nick]

He's just. He's just a guy who just, like, doesn't care or understand these shows, and he's just, like, happy to let his wife do whatever she wants, but not happy enough that he won't complain about it. Like, that seems like a. I get.

[Sandy]

That he wasn't made for reality tv.

[Nick]

But it's like, he's a businessman, you know, she's still doing it, bro. Ain't going anywhere. It's not like he's like, you can't do the show anymore. He's just more like, this is weird.

[Sandy]

You know, I also appreciate when people don't change their personalities for reality television.

[E]

And I'm like.

[Sandy]

He's like, I didn't sign up for this. You did. But I'm not liking what I'm seeing coming out of you from being on a cast with these women, which is also not wrong, in my opinion. I'm like, I think some of them will bring out the worst in you in a social setting. As you see every episode, they're always fighting.

[E]

Yeah.

[Nick]

Yeah.

[Sandy]

Like, it's true for him.

[Justin]

What. What did you. What were your hot takes of this episode of Beverly Hills?

[Dorit]

Well, there's the whole Kyle Dorit thing going on, and I feel like the two of them are being very tit for tat. Like, you did this, you did that, and it's kind of like, okay, both of you just apologize to the other one and move on. I think the whole thing with Dorit, what she said at bravocon really wasn't a big deal. I think that was a joke and in jest and Kyle's kind of hanging on it. She's probably in a sensitive place right now, so that's what she's latched onto. I don't think it was nice what Kyle said about Dorit of the whole bit about we're really not that good of friends. Like, that's pretty cool. So I think gotta own that. And it's time for them both to move on. I hope this isn't the storyline of the season.

[Nick]

Oh, God, I hope not. Because it does seem a bit manufactured. And honestly, like, not that I just don't.

[Justin]

It just seems so clear to everyone else watching that bravo con thing that it's a joke.

[Nick]

Yeah. And I don't think Kyle is that unself aware or dense. I, I, I, I don't. I, you know, I'm sure she's sensitive, but it's just hard for me to imagine that she doesn't understand. I don't know.

[E]

Well, do you think that Kyle might just be trying to make something else her storyline that isn't mo?

[Nick]

Yeah, but, yeah, that's a great. But they're clearly still leaning into like, are we going to get back together or not? Like, oh, he only signed a six months lease. And then like watching it, it was just more like they're almost too civil for a couple that is going through a separation. And I can't help but wonder if they're. If they already have their answer and they're both content with whatever that answer is. And the answer, I'm assuming is they're not getting back together. And this whole, like, will they, won't they? Is all for the. They're. They're just almost too civil. They're so civil that I still, like, every time I see them together, I'm like, get back together, please. Come on, guys.

[Dorit]

Same.

[Nick]

There's too much love and respect here. You're not petty. Like, just figure it out. But they're like, they're clearly not figuring it out. And it's like it's, there's a lot of history. Yeah. And it's just. I don't know. So today. Your point, Mary? If that's the case, then like, I, we need Kyle to come up with a new storyline because, yeah, it's like.

[E]

She'S just like, she's just holding back. So there's just this like, wall between Kyle and everyone else and the audience that like, is just not, it's just not working for me because I'm like, she's just like, she just seems very unsure of herself and like floundering and doesn't know what to do. And she just seems really lost and like, I just want to watch her like be like, do what Dorit's doing and be like, fuck it, this is what's going on.

[Nick]

We need more, we need more air time for Jennifer Tilly. I feel like.

[Sandy]

Yes.

[Nick]

What are your, what are your thoughts on her, Katie?

[Dorit]

I'm into Jennifer Tilly. I think she's like fun and adds like a light hearted moment to the show. I liked her Louis Vuitton boat bag.

[Sandy]

Absolutely.

[Dorit]

I, I think she's, she's good.

[Nick]

Do you know that she's the Simpson air now.

[Dorit]

What?

[Nick]

Yeah, tell her now.

[Dorit]

How's that?

[Justin]

Well, I, they talked about it in this episode where she, her ex is Sam Simon. He was like the creator of.

[Nick]

Yeah, they kind of floated over it.

[Justin]

Yeah, he's the creator of the Simpsons. They got a divorce. He had. He died and had no heirs. So everything went to his most recent ex wife, Jennifer Tilly.

[Nick]

Right.

[Justin]

Lucky. She's like, divorces him like, oh, got nothing, you know.

[Dorit]

And then forget Bronwyn not having a prenup.

[Justin]

That's crazy.

[Dorit]

She's got it.

[Nick]

She can't keep up with all the money pouring into her bank account.

[Dorit]

Wow. No wonder she had that Louis Vuitton boat bag.

[Justin]

Yeah, you can spend money on a boat bag when you've got that much money.

[Dorit]

I'll tell you what, if I had this was the Simpsons air, I would not be on Real Housewives of Beverly Hills. I think she's just doing it on my boat somewhere. Forget the boat bag and I would be on the yacht. That speaks and that'd be it.

[Nick]

That speaks to Jennifer's potential though, because she clearly doesn't need to be there. She wants to be there.

[E]

I heard that she just like loves the show and is friends with Sutton who's just like, this would be fun to be on it. I think that's what she's just like.

[Nick]

There to vibe and that she literally has fuck you money. She can say whatever she wants because it doesn't matter because I'm so rich.

[Justin]

What, are you gonna fire me?

[Nick]

Yeah. What are you gonna sue? Sue me. Like what? Like please sue me. Honestly, like this. I have too much money.

[Dorit]

She's got nothing to lose.

[Nick]

Oh my God.

[Dorit]

She's one to watch.

[Justin]

I will Say, I loved Kyle's. God gave you two ears, one mouth. You need to listen. That's. It was a good line.

[Dorit]

That is a good one, because it is true.

[E]

Yeah.

[Nick]

Who amongst the wives would you want to be friends with? Katie.

[Dorit]

Oh, well, I want to be friends with Heather Gay. That's definitely, like, my number one. And then I think on Beverly Hills, I would really like to be friends with Kathy Hilton. Yes. I've met her a few times and she does not disappoint. But I'd like to be friends. Like, I want to be on the trip to Oceanside. I want that hat. I want one of her pillows, the whole thing.

[Nick]

She's having a Christmas party next Tuesday in LA that we're going to. It's a lot of fun. She. She had real snow at our party last year in la. You should come. I don't. I mean, I'm assuming you can come. I'm assuming you can get an invite.

[Sandy]

You can give me.

[Nick]

No, I mean, like, you can get yourself in, but, like, you know, I. I will. I mean, we can ask for you.

[Dorit]

Yeah, I. I would be on the plane. I'd be. I'd be right there.

[Justin]

I was. Did you see Kathy on Watch what Happens Live? Every time she plays that what's in my bag game, she bombs it every single time. The way that she's like, it's flowers. It's like you. We don't get the. It's like, this is your fourth time playing. We don't understand the concept yet. It's like the funniest thing to watch is this woman try to figure out how to explain what is in this bag.

[Sandy]

The snow globe. She's like, it's. It's snow inside a glass bottle.

[Justin]

Snow globe.

[Sandy]

You got it?

[Nick]

No. Kathy Hill's out of Touch is perfect. It's wonderful. It's so authentic. It's amazing. And never change. And her. Her ring, light her. What was that? Her ring. That was. She's like, I'm gonna wear this today. And I honestly thought she was probably the first time she ever saw something like that.

[E]

Yeah.

[Nick]

She probably stole it from her grandchild.

[E]

Yeah, probably.

[Nick]

Yeah.

[E]

I just can't get over her intro to the season. Be literally looking like she was getting the substance injected into her. It was like the best thing I've ever seen in my entire life. I love her.

[Dorit]

Would you ever sit in there and glam?

[Nick]

Would you ever be a housewife, Katie?

[Dorit]

I would not.

[Nick]

You definitely have the resume. You could do it.

[Dorit]

I don't know if That's a compliment. Or not.

[Nick]

It is, it is.

[Dorit]

But no, I wouldn't because I do think it changes your personal life and I'm very happily married and I'd like to keep it that way. My husband actually used to be a producer on Rony years ago. He was with the old cast. So, you know, I've gotten great stories from him.

[Nick]

Does he have any notes on what they're doing wrong with this season?

[Dorit]

He hasn't watched and he actually didn't watch when he was a producer. He did that job. He likes to do like food and travel programming. He was living in la, I was living in New York and he wanted an excuse to be in New York, so he took a job on Rony. So he wasn't as invested as I would have liked him to be, but that didn't keep me from like pumping him for details. But he was on the season. Remember when they went to Columbia and the boat almost sank? He was on that season and he was on a season when they went to Mexico. But I kind of like remember it best by where they were traveling.

[Nick]

That's incredible. Do you have any hot cooking tips for us for the holidays? What are you recommending? Any quick hitters or how to impress at your next Christmas party? You're invited. Invited to?

[Dorit]

Well, I'm having a Christmas party next week and I'm doing a ham and martini party. I just planned it last night actually and sent out invitations. So I'm just doing a few friends and I'm making a ham and I'm going to do some pre batched martinis. And I think a really good thing to do, you know, you always find yourself running out of glassware. So get online, find if somebody's having a sale on wine glasses or champagne glasses or martini glasses. And this case, when they're like two or three dollars and buy like 50 of them, keep the boxes and then you can put them back in the box and store them until the next time you're having a party. So like I did that years ago with wine glasses and champagne glasses. I bought 50 of each and every time I have a party, I get those out. And the other thing that I'm really into this time of year, like speaking of the Le Creuset pot, is to make a stew. So if you're having in like six to eight people for dinner, make a big beef bourguignon, get a baguette, make a salad, open a great bottle of red wine and call it a day.

[Justin]

That sounds delicious. Oh my God. I'm hungry.

[Nick]

Are you the only cook in your family or does your husband like to cook too?

[Dorit]

My husband's a great cook, actually, but I don't really let him cook. The kitchen is like my territory and, and I, I, I'm a little bitchy when he cooks. Like, I kind of like, tell him what to do and boss him around a bit and he doesn't love it, so, so it's something I need to work on.

[Nick]

I love to cook. Nally can cook, but I'm, I'm not, I'm less bossy, I'm more judgmental. I'm more like, I'm more like, why, Why'd you do that? Why'd you do it that way? Like, what, What? You're doing it wrong.

[Justin]

Yeah, he is absolutely. Like, why would you cut him like that? Is that what seasoning did you just put on the.

[Nick]

That's an interesting choice, huh?

[Justin]

Yeah, it's hard.

[Dorit]

Like, I think it needs a little more salt. So wait a second. So, Nick, you are a particular eater, but you like to cook, correct?

[Nick]

Yes.

[Dorit]

So what's on your no no list? And like, what, what do you.

[Nick]

Literally anything. It's just mayonnaise based. It's just like, you know, American society feels like they should put a Chipotle mail on every fucking thing and a sauce on every. I just. That's it. Like, if you. Short of that, I, I eat everything. It's really just that. Stop ruining things.

[Dorit]

What about the Brussels sprouts and the.

[Justin]

Sweet potatoes, the goat cheese and the.

[Nick]

To me, goat cheese is like, it's like mayonnaise adjacent. It's like anything, Anything white and creamy. Not for me. Like Alfredo sauce now. No.

[Dorit]

No cream cheese on a bagel.

[Nick]

Absolutely not. No. No cream cheese, no cottage cheese. No. No sour cream. None of those.

[Justin]

Yeah, it's crazy if it's white.

[Nick]

It's not for me.

[E]

I feel sad for you.

[Justin]

I know he's missing out on the.

[Nick]

Things I do cook, which are many things I cook very well.

[Justin]

He does.

[Nick]

Yeah. There's a right way of doing things and then there's a wrong way. And if you can't do them right, get the fuck out of the kitchen. You know, like, I just.

[Justin]

Katie, do you have like six staples that you do over and over or do you have like a plethora of just, you're just. It's something new all the time.

[Dorit]

I'm always cranking out new recipes because I'm usually developing new recipes for our show for the kitchen. So I end up doing A lot of recipe testing and writing, those new recipes, cooking new things. But then I have my fallbacks that I always do. Like I have an oven fried chicken that we eat probably once a week. I do a lot of sheet pan suppers because I have a 4 year old, so she's not eating all of the stuff that I'm cooking. So when it comes to like family dinner time, I'm. I'm making a lot simpler meals than I used to because I want all of us to be eating the same thing.

[Justin]

Yeah, see that's like us. We have our six staples and Nick doesn't like to venture out if there's not enough preparation. He needs to be like, headspace needs to know that we're doing a new recipe.

[Nick]

It'll be like 4 in the afternoon. She's like, let's do something different tonight. I'm like, huh, it's four. I need to like go shopping and process.

[Justin]

I gotta read how do I cook this thing?

[Nick]

Like, I know I can close my eyes and make steak tacos, you know, and make them quite well.

[Dorit]

I get it. I feel like at 4 o'clock when somebody says, what's for dinner? And if I haven't planned it out already, it's like I start to sweat and get anxiety. Like, I want to know, like every Tuesday we're having tacos. Like, I know that that's easy. I do like the old school ground beef. My daughter loves it. And then every Friday we do pizza Fridays, so I know I don't have to cook on Friday night. And then usually on the weekend I do something in the slow cooker because we like to like, get out and do stuff all day long. And that way I know that dinner's already taken care of.

[Sandy]

Okay, that's.

[Justin]

That is smart. Does there come a point where you're like, I can't do pizza tonight?

[Dorit]

Yes, I, I'm kind of sick of pizza. And I didn't know that that would ever be possible.

[Justin]

Right.

[Dorit]

But I'm like kind of tired of eating it now that I have it once a week. It used to be such a treat.

[Nick]

Is that a product of children?

[Dorit]

I'm like, yes, yes. I definitely wouldn't be having it once a week if I didn't have a kid. Does yours like pizza a lot?

[Justin]

She actually does like pizza.

[Nick]

She's.

[Justin]

We've given her pizza. She does love pizza.

[Dorit]

Have you done the crust? Like for the. How she just chews on the crust?

[Justin]

Yes. Loves it, loves it. So it is fun. Now that she's Eating real food to, like, give her little bits of what we have and us all sit together at the table. And so it is. I do think about that when we're like, what are we going to have? You know, we had. Nick makes a great kale salad with, like, a breaded chicken in it, and it's like, okay, well, she's definitely not going to eat this salt and lemon kale, like, so she can have some of this breaded chicken. And, like, it's fun to pull, you know, from our meal for hers, but I think it'll be.

[Dorit]

That's such a great age, like, when they're starting to try things and. And excited to have it and not picky yet.

[Justin]

Yeah.

[Nick]

Well, my favorite, when she, like, she goes from one, like, taste to another, you know, and her face will, like, kind of be, like, shocked and confused and curious all at the same time. I love it.

[Dorit]

Oh, it's the best. It's like every little thing you're just excited about.

[Nick]

Yeah. I'm definitely not trying to pass my bad traits on to my daughter.

[E]

So hopefully you're going to pump her with.

[Justin]

We give her a lot of. She eats a lot.

[Nick]

Whatever she wants.

[Justin]

She eats a lot of scrambled eggs with goat cheese, so that's love.

[E]

Ooh. I've never put goat cheese and scrambled eggs. That sounds delicious.

[Justin]

Amazing.

[Dorit]

Nick, do you eat yogurt?

[Nick]

Absolutely not. Not. No.

[Dorit]

What about, like, vanilla ice cream? Will you have that?

[Nick]

Yes. Yeah, I love. That's.

[Dorit]

Okay. We found something.

[Justin]

Something along the white and creamy whipped cream.

[Nick]

Love whipped cream.

[Justin]

Loves whipped cream.

[E]

So you love a cream when there's sugar?

[Justin]

Yeah. Yes.

[Dorit]

Okay.

[E]

Got it, got it, got it, got it.

[Sandy]

You figured them out.

[Justin]

You cracked the code.

[Nick]

That's who I am.

[Dorit]

Nice ice cream sundae.

[Nick]

What else went on, Rony?

[Sandy]

They went on a girls trip. Kathy Hilton did adult duck duck duck goose.

[Nick]

Okay.

[E]

Oh, the adult duck duck goose was incredible.

[Nick]

Gal's back. She made her movie.

[Sandy]

Garcelle's son signed with LA Models.

[Nick]

The one with the eye tattoo.

[Sandy]

Jade?

[Justin]

No, no, no, it's her young son. He's, like, 13, 14. Young.

[Nick]

Yeah.

[Justin]

Maybe a little older than that. Maybe like 15, 16. But yeah, he. And honestly looked like a professional. It looked like he's in his lane that he should.

[Sandy]

And even going back to the Dorit and Kyle conversation, if that's going to be their storyline, I have to say, it is actually really sad to watch because both of these women are going through pretty similar situations, and watching them be at odds with each other instead of Working together, helping each other out, going with. Going through the separation.

[Nick]

I want to see them double dating like 28 year olds.

[Justin]

Okay.

[Nick]

That's what I want to see. That's twins.

[Sandy]

I was going more for the women. Supporting women.

[Nick]

Even better, for sure. Yes. That's how they should support each other.

[Justin]

Yeah.

[Nick]

Yes. I know Mo's doing it.

[Dorit]

Why can't them should be together.

[Nick]

Yeah.

[E]

This is like when Stassi and Katie were, like, not talking of Interpol rules, and I was so sad. That's how I feel about Dorit and Kyle. I'm like, I want my. I need my girls to be friends.

[Justin]

Yeah.

[Sandy]

Like, this is not the odds that I want to see this season. I want these two to, like, band together.

[E]

I can't handle Wicked coming out and Kyle and Dorit not being friends. That's just too much.

[Nick]

Have you seen Wicked yet, Katie?

[Dorit]

I haven't been, no. I'm afraid to go and have, like, people singing in the theater.

[Sandy]

Go to amc. They make it so that you cannot do that.

[Dorit]

Oh, well, then that's where I will go if I ever make it to the movies. I haven't been to a movie, honestly.

[Nick]

Like, wait four weeks, it'll be on Demand then. Yeah.

[Dorit]

Yeah, exactly.

[Justin]

You know, it's so funny. We talked about it on our last reality recap and Nick was like, I haven't seen it. And then gave his opinion and saw people being like. The second Nick said he hadn't seen it, I tuned out because it's like, we don't care.

[Nick]

No, I gave my opinion on the press release, which I've seen a million times, because it is amazing.

[E]

Well, we have to hold space.

[Nick]

Yeah, we gotta. We gotta have to hold space for that. You seem like you've met a lot of famous people. Have you ever been starstruck?

[Dorit]

I am starstruck every time I'm around Martha Stewart. So I've met her several times and I just. I like. I always feel like I'm, like, shaking when I'm around her and that something dumb's gonna come out of my mouth. It's like I just never know what to say to her. I'm kind of, like, in awe of her. So Martha is definitely the one that I'm starstruck around. And I've. I've met Paul McCartney a couple of times and that I'm always starstruck with him. I mean, he's a beetle.

[E]

Yeah.

[Justin]

Wow, those are two. Yeah.

[Nick]

I haven't met Paul McCartney, but I have been in the same room as Paul McCartney. But my best friend did propose to his wife on stage of Paul McCartney because his. His friend DJs for Paul McCartney. Fun fact. Is there a world in which like you'd almost want Martha to like kind of yell at you and judge you? Because I feel like she's. It's kind of her stick where it's just like say something mean to me and make me feel bad. Like I almost.

[Justin]

I would take it Mary. I want Mary from Salt Lake City to just like insult me, please.

[Nick]

Right. Just yum.

[Dorit]

Mary's whole storyline with her son. Like, I, I feel like I'm watching something I shouldn't be watching.

[Justin]

I know.

[Nick]

Yeah, that is, that is. I mean, well said and, and very true. I do appreciate though how she handled it and I do think she is bringing an awareness to a very terrible problem our country and our children are facing when it comes to the access that our kids have to these legal drugs that are the equivalent of like heroin. So that's true. On. On the flip side, how they went about it, yada yada. I think there's. Yeah, it's like, I don't know if I should be watching it, but I mean I really appreciated her authenticity in that moment and the love that she obviously expressed for her child. Tough situation to be in. But yeah, it's totally. It's definitely a heartbreaking. It's as real as it gets when it comes to like topical conversations. But again, speaks to the authenticity of Salt Lake City. You cut to that real conversation to like, the women of New York are playing pickle ball. Yay. You know.

[Dorit]

Yeah. I'll tell you what. Nobody in on the New York show would ever allow somebody to see their cracks like that.

[Nick]

No. Yeah. Which I respect because nor would we or nor would you. Which is why.

[Dorit]

Right, which is why.

[Nick]

But it's like you signed up for this. Like what are you.

[Sandy]

Deliver.

[Nick]

Anyways, Any fun Christmas plans? What do you guys. What do you guys do during the holidays?

[Dorit]

Yeah, so my husband's family is going to come stay with us. We're planning on just having a very cozy holiday. Very chill. I. You know, we have a lot of friends who come by during this season. We live in Manhattan, so it's kind of like, you know, a revolving door, friends coming around. And I have my fridge all stocked with lots of different snacks so that I can entertain easily. And I have a lot of wine on hand for the season. I have my own line of wines called Kind of Wild. That's an organic zero sugar wine. Mine. So I'VE always got a case of red and a case of white and bubbles and ready to go. So it can be a party anytime.

[Justin]

We'll be in New York in December. I was just hoping that revolving door was still revolving at that time.

[Dorit]

Come on over. I'll make a beef bourguignon and we can talk about housewives. I'd love to have you all for.

[Nick]

We would love to be friends. I don't even know who your husband is, but I aspire to be his friend. And we could talk about making reality tv. So certainly we have a lot in common, so. And. And then we could talk about cooking.

[Dorit]

I think we all get along.

[Nick]

Yeah.

[Dorit]

Perfect.

[Nick]

I love this.

[Dorit]

You and I can judge if they try to cook anything.

[Justin]

Yes. And then our daughters will play together. It'll be perfect.

[Dorit]

My daughter loves babies. So come on over.

[Justin]

Let's do it. We'll be there.

[Nick]

Can I ask you a small personal question? You can tell me to fly. Do you guys ever listen to Billy Joel?

[Dorit]

No, we don't. But it does seem like, you know, you go to a department store and it's on in the background or, you.

[Nick]

Know, it's just, is your husband like, fuck this guy. Let's get the fuck out of here?

[Dorit]

No, he's a good sport.

[Nick]

He's definitely a good sport.

[Dorit]

But I do, I love Bill's music. So it's not like I don't like it.

[Nick]

Bill smoking. Like a true ex wife. Yeah. Love that. Iconic. Katie, thanks so much for joining us. So much fun. Can you please plug whatever you love to plug and tell us the great stuff that you're doing?

[Dorit]

Well, follow me on Instagram at Katie Lee Beagle. I'm always posting new recipes there and check out my wine kind of Wild wines dot com. And my podcast is all on the table. You know what? That's what you should come when you're in New York, be on my podcast, and we can talk about everything you like and don't like to eat. I'd. I'd love to meet up with you guys.

[Nick]

All right. All right, we'll see you then.

[Dorit]

Get in touch.

[Nick]

All right.

[Dorit]

Thanks for having me today.

[Nick]

Thanks for coming. So much fun. Take care. All right. So much fun. Lovely. Can't wait to hang out.

[Justin]

I know. Same. I can't wait to eat her cooking.

[Nick]

All right, it's time to get into the Ultimatum Episode one. Guys, if you aren't like. So for those of you don't know, The Ultimatum Season 3 on Netflix came out last night. I think there's like five episodes for us to watch right now or something like that. We've. I've only seen the first episode. It's a much watch. If you guys are looking for something to watch over the weekend, catch up on the ultimatum we get. We'll get into episode through five on. On Tuesdays up episode of Reality Recap. But like, it's delivering. I'm really enjoying. I. I feel like, you know, because it's the same franchise as Love is Blind, same creators, same makers, you know, Nick and Lachey or Nick Vanessa. Nick or whatever the. They're doing their thing. They're doing their thing. They're talking about again, their relationship and how they got together and how like, whatever the. I don't know.

[Justin]

She issued him an ultimatum.

[Nick]

Yeah, she issued him an ultimatum. But like, I love. Like there's not enough of reality TV shows that are exploring, exploring like, like couples in relationships and like the. The couples who are like, are they gonna get married or not gonna get married? I. I'm very excited about the potential of the. Of this show. I really. I. So we had. We had season one, that was a while back, and then we had the Queer Ultimatum.

[E]

Queer Ultimatum, season two. Psychotic and incredible.

[Nick]

Heard it was very messy. I did not get to watch it. Well, not get. I haven't watched it. Yeah, I guess. Apparently. I'm sure it's still available for me.

[E]

To stream, I don't know, Netflix.

[Nick]

Netflix, yeah. Anyway, season three is upon us. I'm excited. Yeah. They have what, six couples? We got Nick and Sandy, Mariah and Kayla, Vanessa and Dave, Chanel, Micah, Scotty and Ariana.

[Justin]

I'm gonna go ahead and throw out that. The fact that Dave pointed out who he was interested in within like five seconds is insane.

[E]

And also she didn't like him.

[Sandy]

Dave is on my shit list. First of all, I was like, I've never seen this show, so this is like, mind blowing for me where I'm like, if. If Connor looked me in the eye and said, we're doing this experiment, but just so you know, I might match with somebody during this dating.

[Nick]

He goes. He goes, I'm. I find it. I find her interesting.

[Sandy]

And he goes, and the girl across from us, I find interesting.

[Justin]

I'm like, all right, Mike Soft. I am not getting engaged to you, sir.

[Nick]

And her response was, She's 24. And he goes, I just said she's interesting. And I love how that was supposed to be a deterrent for him.

[Sandy]

Oh, yeah.

[Nick]

As if, like double dab. He's like, oh, my God. I didn't even know that, but now I'm even more interested, so it brought.

[Sandy]

Me a lot of joy.

[Nick]

Yeah, it's great. Who do we think? So there's so many, like, interesting, like, relationship questions that, like, are revealed from watching this show.

[E]

Yeah.

[Justin]

Yes.

[Nick]

Do you judge people's sex ability by their horoscopes? Is that actually a thing? Are people being serious about that? I don't know enough about it.

[E]

I think Scorpios are serious about it, but it's.

[Nick]

That's clear watching this show.

[Sandy]

It's also, like, the only zodiac sign where I feel like that is talked about, where it's like, oh, nope, Scorpio's crazy in the sack, but you don't hear about Capricorns or Leos or anything.

[Justin]

It's just this.

[Sandy]

It's like, marketing for Scorpios.

[Justin]

Libras are also crazy in bed.

[Sandy]

Really?

[Justin]

Yeah.

[Sandy]

I feel like they can't make a decision.

[Justin]

Huge dick.

[E]

No. They're people pleasers.

[Justin]

They're people pleasers. Libras. Yeah.

[Sandy]

Nick is a Libra.

[E]

I'm a Libra rising.

[Sandy]

So great in business.

[Justin]

Also great in business. Good fathers, good husbands.

[E]

I don't know. When people in these situations talk about astrology, I'm like, it was like, nine.

[Justin]

Carrot, I think, from Tokori.

[Nick]

They're so earnest about it.

[E]

It's just like, I don't like. The way I engage with astrology is like, when I'm having a tough time, I start listening to my astrology podcast. And then when I'm fine, I'm like.

[Justin]

I don't need it.

[E]

But when I'm going through it, I'm like, chani, Nicholas saved me. But, yeah, astrology for dating. I don't know.

[Justin]

I will say I do not think Nick and Sandy last. I do not. I see her being like, their JR is so sexy. I am like, she's gone.

[E]

I think she hates him.

[Sandy]

I'm kind of hoping for another Vanessa. Nick, for those two to pair up. We've got Vanessa, Nick, the host, but Nick and Vanessa on the cast.

[E]

Yeah. I'm hoping that they're into each other.

[Justin]

Nick and Sandy.

[Nick]

Yeah. Nick is dating Sandy because she's hot.

[Dorit]

Yeah.

[Nick]

And he wants to believe there's more than there is to this relationship. She. Her voice is. I'm finding it difficult to digest right now. It might change for me there. I don't. I don't even know how to.

[E]

She kind of looks like.

[Nick]

She looks like Jess from Love is Blind.

[E]

She kind of looks like Emily Ratajkowski.

[Justin]

I think Mariah is so stunning. And it's a good looking cast.

[Nick]

Like, the whole cast. Well, to do. To make that makes sense, to do this show, you. You have to be in the same leagues.

[Justin]

Yeah.

[Nick]

You. You can't. Right?

[Justin]

You can't want to, like, leave your.

[Nick]

Current for like, it's already hard enough. I mean, like, it is crazy because now you have Mark on the end of episode one, the classic. I think it just happens. Well, it happened season one. There's always, like, one couple. It's like, I don't think we need to be here. This isn't for me. I already got the answer I want. It's always, like, the one guy who can't make a connection. But in fairness to him, he only. He's got, like, literally five options.

[Sandy]

You're talking about Dave.

[Nick]

Dave. I'm sorry. Dave. Dave. Dave. Dave. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, like, no one likes Dave.

[Sandy]

Dave's main option, that he thought he had the best connection was like, I.

[E]

Don'T like history with you.

[Sandy]

And then he was also like, wait, maybe I should propose. Like, maybe. And I'm like, oh, it drives me.

[Nick]

What was the game that they played that, like, ended in drama, that they acted like they all knew, and it was basically, oh, and it's heads or tails.

[E]

And they all flip heads.

[Nick]

It was like they all flip heads.

[Sandy]

It was like adult telephone. It was like them, like, telling a secret, and then if they flipped heads, then they have to share what the secret was.

[Nick]

I didn't, like, just ask the question out loud and let's get to it.

[E]

Right after watching the episode and looking at all of these couples, like, none of them are gonna make it. That's my theory. Yeah.

[Justin]

It's like, what?

[E]

None of them are what the new.

[Sandy]

Couples are gonna be.

[E]

They all seem like they hate each other.

[Sandy]

They came on the show.

[E]

Y. Yeah.

[Nick]

I love it. He was like, hey, we could leave now. And she's like, shut up. No.

[E]

She's like, no, I want to be on the show and fuck someone else. It's crazy.

[Nick]

It definitely, like, makes you, like, appreciate what you got, you know? You know, it's a good way to, like, really, I guess. I don't know. Would you do it?

[Justin]

Would I do it? No. Absolutely not. No.

[Nick]

What?

[Justin]

I. Would you issue me an ultimatum?

[Nick]

I mean, I don't think I would.

[Justin]

I don't feel like I didn't issue an ultimatum. I was like, I'm out of here.

[Nick]

That's true.

[Justin]

Yeah.

[Nick]

But no, you did issue an ultimatum, and then you Set your boundary.

[Justin]

Oh, I guess. Yeah. That is an ultimatum to be like, I either, like, we're going to date or I'm out of here.

[Nick]

Yeah.

[Justin]

Yeah. I did an ultimate.

[E]

Yeah, but you did it like a normal way of being. Like, let me not, like, marry my partner or, let's go on a reality show.

[Nick]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Sandy]

But can we talk. Talk about that for a second, though, while they're playing these games and everything? And I'm just like, you're looking at your ex, but they're still technically your partner because they want you to propose, but then they're talking about who they would choose if it wasn't you.

[Nick]

It's so toxic. It's amazing. It's awesome.

[Justin]

Amazing.

[Sandy]

Because I've never seen anything like it. I'm surprised that there's not more, like, physical fights. It's like, these men hate each other.

[Nick]

How many of these people are actually getting off on this? Like, how many people are. You know, like, they're.

[Sandy]

You know, Sandy's loving every minute of it.

[E]

Oh, yeah.

[Nick]

JR Open.

[Justin]

Junior with the arm.

[Sandy]

Like, the awkward hand on shoulder. During the conversation, I was like, tell me you're trying to make your ex jealous without telling me you're trying to.

[Justin]

Make your ex jealous.

[Nick]

Is a daughter of a pastor.

[E]

Yeah.

[Nick]

Do you feel like you have a better. Can you.

[E]

With Junior?

[Nick]

Yeah.

[E]

Well, we both like to put cologne on our balls.

[Nick]

Great. Thank you for bringing that up. I. For the. For the men. For the. For the 10 men listening.

[Justin]

Do you do that?

[Nick]

No.

[Justin]

You don't?

[Nick]

No. That. Is that. Junior. Junior. It's a violation of cologne. Like, bro, you do not need that much. First of all, cologne is expensive. You're wasting too much cologne.

[E]

One too.

[Nick]

Not like one spray. And then if you want to, like, you know, if you want to get other parts of your body, then you just kind of like, wipe the. Wipe the tip. After you spray, get a little residue. Put it on your wrist if you want to put. You know, maybe.

[Justin]

Definitely don't do this. You're like, I put three on your neck.

[Sandy]

Called small ones.

[Nick]

Small ones.

[E]

Quarter pumps.

[Nick]

Do I wear too much?

[Justin]

No. You smell amazing. He was delicious.

[Nick]

He was showering himself.

[Justin]

And then.

[Nick]

Why is.

[E]

He saw his chest was wet afterwards.

[Nick]

He doesn't need to say puddle. What did he. He said he's. How did he describe it? Balls and Butt. Butt. But behind. He said behind.

[Justin]

Balls.

[Nick]

Behind.

[Sandy]

Armpit. Armpit. Behind the ear.

[Nick]

Just say down there.

[Justin]

Behind.

[Nick]

Who's smelling your asshole?

[E]

I don't know. I just, like, know that if you were in an. In an elevator with that man.

[Justin]

Need cologne. Like, do you stink in your. Literally. Are you washing your body?

[E]

Can you just wash. Wash your butt? Yeah, literally, like, wash your ass, but there is body wash. Yeah, that's why they make it.

[Nick]

Yeah.

[E]

He would literally. If you were in an elevator, he's.

[Justin]

Literally telling everyone he does not wash his ass. He's like, I don't wash my ass. Cologne. Yeah.

[Sandy]

You know, he was an AX kid. Yeah, he was an AX kid that graduated to cologne.

[E]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Nick]

He doesn't, like, changed his routine. Yeah.

[E]

Yeah.

[Nick]

How much cologne do you wear, Justin?

[Katie Lee]

One spread on the body, like, chest and then one on the wrist, but then dab the neck.

[Nick]

Yeah, that's the normal dab on the wrist. I don't. You're not. You're not paying attention to my routine, baby. You do not. You do not. You.

[Justin]

I do.

[Dorit]

Watch.

[Nick]

I'm not being.

[Justin]

You sprayed it before we had sex the other night, and you went three.

[Nick]

You know, it was late.

[Justin]

I know. I also was like, we're about to go to bed.

[E]

Like, why are we.

[Justin]

Like.

[Nick]

Because I'm still putting in the effort.

[Sandy]

Trying to do the night.

[Justin]

Putting in the effort.

[Nick]

Yeah. That's my go for my girl, you know?

[Sandy]

He's saying, maybe there's a chance tonight.

[Justin]

If I smell good.

[Sandy]

If you smell good, Will you come closer?

[Nick]

No, no, no. It was a done deal. I was a done deal.

[Justin]

It was sealed. Yeah. Good for you.

[Nick]

I knew I was getting some.

[Justin]

It was s. There was no Scrabble. It was just.

[Sandy]

It was just s. Yeah.

[Nick]

Yeah. We made love.

[Sandy]

Oh.

[Justin]

Oh, my God. Okay, now. Oh, my gosh. Okay, so, yeah, I think everyone should be watching Ultimatum. It is very good.

[E]

Yeah. Zayna seems so sweet with Junior. I just don't get that couple. Like, I don't understand any of them. None of them make sense together, the original couples.

[Nick]

Yeah, well, this Scotty and Ariana hates Scotty. Arian. They hate each other.

[E]

Oh, yeah.

[Nick]

She's like, what, you want someone to, like, pay attention to you and be nice and, like, actually be your girlfriend? He's like, yeah. He's like, well, like, that's not who I am.

[E]

And then she has a mental breakdown when he's talking to. What's her name?

[Sandy]

Z.

[E]

Z.

[Sandy]

She's her hand.

[E]

Yeah.

[Nick]

She's a mean. She's a mean girlfriend.

[Justin]

I will.

[Sandy]

They definitely. When they did the intertwined fingers, though, I was like. And they're all drinking. I was like, that would send any ex girlfriend up today by the way and she still proposal.

[Justin]

Yeah, I hate that it's like ex girlfriend because it's like we are not like we're.

[E]

Yeah, but he issued the ultimatum and now she's mad.

[Nick]

But they're broken up.

[E]

I know they're broken up in the world of the show.

[Justin]

Such a crazy concept. I really hope everyone is watching.

[Nick]

It's insane. Guys, if you're looking for something to watch this week and get to work on Netflix, it's the ultimatum. I mean I'm assuming most of you guys are all watching it but like we all know that there's just a limited things out there to watch and like this is. If you're looking for a competition dating show, this is the one you should be watching. We will be talking about it. It's time for us to go. We'll see you on Thursday. Well, this is Thursday.

[Justin]

We'll see you.

[Nick]

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