E928 - RHOA’s Angela Oakley, Tucker Wetmore, The Valley Reunion, Summer House & Nat's Last Minute Farm Trip

Summary

Episode E928 - RHOA’s Angela Oakley, Tucker Wetmore, The Valley Reunion, Summer House & Nat's Last Minute Farm Trip

Release Date: May 6, 2025
Podcast: The Viall Files
Hosts: Nick Viall, Natalie Joy, Sierra, and the Household

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Personal Anecdote: Sierra's Solo Farming Trip (01:04 - 09:36)

The episode opens with a light-hearted conversation between Nick Viall and Sierra about attending the Met Gala in the distant future. This playful banter sets the stage for Sierra to share a heartfelt personal story about handling solo parenting during a recent trip to the farm where she and Nick were married.

At [02:22], Sierra recounts, “Me and Nick were away from each other for four days, I was solo momming. Nick was working.” She details the challenges and joys of taking River, their daughter, to the farm where Sierra teaches River to handle the farm animals gently. A notable moment occurs when Sierra humorously describes River’s interactions with the bunnies: “She kept wanting to pick the bunnies up by their ears, and that was not good.”

The trip was not without its hiccups. Sierra shares an incident at the Savannah airport involving a bomb threat, leading to an evacuation and chaos with luggage handling. At [07:43], Tucker Wetmore remarks, “So terrifying,” highlighting the stressful experience Sierra endured.

Despite the challenges, Sierra emphasizes the growth and bonding she experienced, stating, “I have never felt stronger in my arms than this trip with River.” The story underscores the complexities of single parenting and the strength required to manage unexpected situations alone.

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RHOA’s Angela Oakley Interview (09:38 - 47:08)

Guest: Angela Oakley, cast member of The Real Housewives of Atlanta
Segment Start: [27:13]

Angela Oakley joins the show to discuss her experiences on Real Housewives of Atlanta. She opens up about her initial impressions and the unexpected challenges she faced on the show. At [27:45], Nick asks, “What did you think about what you saw?” to which Angela responds, “I feel like a lot of it was unnecessary. I didn't feel like we had to get that far.”

A significant portion of the interview delves into Angela's conflicts with fellow cast member Portia, particularly surrounding rumors and accusations. Angela shares a dramatic encounter with Wendy Williams, revealing her frustration and the fallout from their interaction:

Angela Oakley [33:39]: “I told her, you know, maybe she should stay with her husband. And I felt like now's my chance. I snuck over to her, and I was just like, Wendy, you know, it's just a baby.”

She reflects on the consequences of this confrontation, highlighting the media's role in amplifying drama:

Angela Oakley [36:08]: “She gave me what I deserved. She added that I said, he had a baby on me. It was not Charles Oakley. No. It was my oldest daughter's father who.”

Angela also discusses the dynamics during the season finale, expressing her concerns about upcoming confrontations at the reunion. She notes a lack of allies and anticipates further tensions:

Angela Oakley [41:05]: “I think all of them are going to come for me. I don't feel like I have any allies. I hope that I'm wrong.”

The interview concludes with Angela sharing her strategies for handling drama and maintaining her composure, demonstrating her resilience and commitment to clearing up misunderstandings.

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Summer House and The Valley Reunion Discussion (47:08 - 64:38)

Following Angela’s interview, Nick and the hosts shift focus to Summer House and the recent Valley Reunion's seating chart. The discussion centers around the perceived favoritism and the strategic placement of cast members Michelle and Jesse at opposite ends of the seating arrangement.

At [12:44], Amanda comments on the seating chart, noting:

Amanda: “Someone commented on the seating chart saying, funny that Michelle is at the last seat despite having the prime storylines.”

Tucker adds his perspective, linking Jesse’s intense behavior to his placement:

Tucker Wetmore [12:56]: “There's more diabolical shit coming from Jesse this season that there's more to talk to Jesse about than Michelle.”

The hosts debate the reasons behind the seating decisions, speculating whether it’s due to personal conflicts or production strategies. Sierra raises questions about the logic of keeping toxic relationships distanced:

Sierra [13:20]: “Why not put the couples closer to the end and the two toxic divorcees at the top?”

The conversation also touches on Kyle and Amanda’s roles within Summer House, discussing the show’s direction and potential cast changes. The hosts express concerns over whether the show maintains consistency or veers into different dynamics, especially with the introduction of newer cast members versus the established ones.

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Interview with Tucker Wetmore: Rising Country Star (68:13 - 95:02)

Guest: Tucker Wetmore, emerging country music artist
Segment Start: [68:13]

Tucker Wetmore joins Nick Viall on the show, bringing insights from his recent performances and burgeoning music career. He shares highlights from his appearance at the Stagecoach festival, describing the excitement and challenges of performing live to large crowds.

At [73:47], Kyle discusses his rapid rise in the music industry:

Kyle Wetmore: “It's been a couple years forward, and it's been nothing but amazing. I couldn't have done any of it without my family.”

Tucker reflects on his experiences, including his first live performance at CMA Fest, which was a pivotal moment in his career:

Kyle Wetmore [86:49]: “Everyone was singing every word. It was a good indicator of what's to come. I might have a shot.”

The conversation delves into Tucker’s creative process, his influences, and the balance between maintaining authenticity and navigating the demands of the music industry. He discusses his songwriting, mentioning his favorite tracks and the stories behind them:

Kyle Wetmore [88:25]: “Bad Luck Looks Good on Me is probably one of my favorites. It's a song that really connects with my journey.”

Tucker also opens up about the personal aspects of his life, including his upbringing, family support, and his disciplined approach to both his career and personal relationships. He emphasizes the importance of acts of service and quality time in his relationships, contrasting his values with the entertainment industry’s often superficial interactions.

Notable Moments:

• Performance Insights: Tucker shares detailed accounts of his stage presence and the energy of live performances, highlighting the supportive nature of his audience.
• Career Milestones: Discussion of his first album release, performing on Jimmy Kimmel Live, and the significance of these achievements in his career trajectory.
• Personal Reflections: Tucker talks about his personal growth, the influence of his family, and his dedication to his craft amidst a busy touring schedule.

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Closing Remarks and Final Thoughts (95:02 - 98:20)

As the episode wraps up, the hosts reflect on the discussions, highlighting the resilience of single parents like Sierra and the evolving dynamics of reality TV stars like Angela Oakley and Tucker Wetmore. They tease upcoming episodes, including an explosive Going Deeper interview with Lexi Wood and a detailed Reality Recap slated for Thursday.

In final reflections, Nick emphasizes the importance of maintaining strong relationships and personal growth amidst the challenges presented by fame and personal responsibilities:

Nick Viall [48:05]: “I think we have to recognize the strength it takes to balance everything, especially for single parents and public figures navigating reality TV.”

The hosts encourage listeners to stay tuned for more insightful conversations and entertaining recaps in future episodes, ensuring a mix of humor, depth, and up-to-date pop culture commentary.

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Notable Quotes

• Sierra on Solo Parenting Trip [02:22]:
  “I didn’t know what I was capable of until I had to handle everything on my own.”

• Angela Oakley on Wendy Williams Encounter [33:39]:
  “I thought I was the biggest Wendy fan, and I felt like now's my chance.”

• Tucker Wetmore on First Live Performance [86:31]:
  “Everybody was singing every word. It was a good indicator of what's to come.”

• Nick Viall on Relationship Insights [49:11]:
  “I really find it helpful because I know I do that.”

• Sierra on Relationship Dynamics [55:27]:
  “I think people have different things that work for their relationship.”

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This episode of The Viall Files offers a rich tapestry of personal anecdotes, candid interviews, and in-depth discussions on reality TV dynamics and the music industry. Whether navigating the complexities of solo parenting, managing public conflicts, or rising in the competitive world of country music, the hosts and guests provide valuable insights and engaging stories for listeners seeking both entertainment and wisdom.

Transcript

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[Angela Oakley]

You're crazy.

[Nick]

What's going on, everybody? Welcome back to another episode of the Vile Files. I am your host, Nick, and it's good to be back with you. The Met gala was last night. Well, it's tonight for us when we're recording, but it's last night for y'all, so we don't even know what happens. I do. Someday. Want to go? I do.

[Sierra]

Yes, of course.

[Nick]

I think we're. I think we're closer than we were last year.

[Sierra]

We're. Yeah. Inch in our way. For sure.

[Nick]

For sure. Do you not want to go?

[Sierra]

I would love to go. I feel like maybe, like, 20. 2052 will be our year.

[Nick]

2052. Oh, my God.

[Sierra]

How old will you be then?

[Nick]

Dead.

[Tucker Wetmore]

2052.

[Nick]

I'll be dead. How many years away is that?

[Sierra]

That's.

[Nick]

It's 20, 27 years.

[Sierra]

Oh, my God. I'll be, like, in my prime. 40s. You won't be dead. You'll be close, but not yet.

[Nick]

I feel like. I feel like science is going in the right direction. I was asked about my age over the weekend, and there was shock and amazement. There was.

[Sierra]

Was there performance as well, or do you feel like it was genuine?

[Nick]

No, it felt very genuine. Yeah.

[Sierra]

No, you do you.

[Nick]

Someone fell off their chair.

[Natalie]

How old did they think you were?

[Nick]

One person said 28.

[Sierra]

No, I thought that was a little.

[Nick]

Crazy, but I'll take early 30s.

[Sierra]

She wanted to suck your dick.

[Nick]

It was a he.

[Sierra]

Perfect. He wanted to suck your dick as well.

[Tucker Wetmore]

This is the first time Natalie's hearing this story.

[Sierra]

Well, no, Nick. Me and Nick were. We were away from each Other for four days, I was solo momming. Nick was working.

[Nick]

I was working. Nelly went to the farm where we got married.

[Sierra]

I did. I went to the farm. I was talking to my sister Friday night. Nick left us Thursday. And then Friday night, I was on the. Me and river were eating supper, and I was on the phone with my sister, and she was, like, talking about, like, oh, yeah, like, oh, we're doing this tomorrow. We're kind of just hanging out the farm. I've got, like, two litters of bunnies and a new puppy and new baby. Like, she was just telling me all the new animals that were there. And River's very much in her animal phase.

[Nick]

Loves animals.

[Sierra]

Loves animals, Knows the names of them, knows what they say. Like, very much in her animal era.

[Nick]

And she's 15 months. Does that make her a genius? I don't know. You tell me. She's all we have to go by.

[Sierra]

Yeah. And so I'm like, you know what? Nick's gone. It's just me and Riv. Like, what if we just came? And she was like, I'll pick you up now.

[Nick]

I got adventurous.

[Sierra]

I got adventurous. I got spontaneous, and I booked a flight for the next morning. And we went for, I don't know, 24 hours. 24 hours and had the best time. She had so much fun. We got there and she. We, like, immediately saw the bunnies, and she was like. Like, her face, she just, like, lit up. She also, you know, we're teaching gentle, and we're teaching soft hands, and they're very two hard things to teach a toddler. And so she kept wanting to pick the bunnies up by their ears, and that was not good.

[Nick]

Well, because they probably. She probably. She probably thinks they're stuffed animals.

[Sierra]

Yeah. No. Yeah, she does pick up her stuffed animals.

[Nick]

How? First time flying solo with River.

[Sierra]

It was my first time playing solo.

[Kyle]

That's right.

[Nick]

Yeah. But, like, she was. She was just a little bean back.

[Sierra]

She was younger, Honestly. The flight there, she knocked. I. She was asleep. We flew Southwest, and I made friends with the gay agent, and so she was like, come on, baby, it's your turn. Come on now. And I was definitely like, B57. Like, it was definitely not my turn, but she let me and river get on with the A's. And then there was a flight attendant standing in the front row, and it was not a full flight, so they really wanted everyone to spread out. Like, they were like, not. You can't all get in the front of the plane. Like, everyone's got to spread Out. And so I was like, could we sit here? And she was like, I'm only allowing two people to sit here, so if you have a family of three, it's not going to work. And I was like, no, it's just me and the baby. And she was like, come on in. And so we got the whole, like, front row to ourselves. And river knocked out before we even took off. Front row, front row.

[Nick]

You had B50, whatever the fuck, and you ended up in the front row.

[Sierra]

Because she let me go with the A's because I made friends with her. And river was smiling at her. And she fell asleep before we even took off, which, thank God, slept the whole flight. The man in front of me was this very old man. And I could see his text. And that, let me tell you, that is my favorite thing to do on a flight, is to. Is to eavesdrop and read some texts of the people in front of me. And I honestly wish that I had not. This man was asking who I'm hoping is his wife. He said something about, like, you want to get that ass whipped? Winky face, tongue emoji, like, was getting real dirty. And she was like, yeah, baby, I do. And I was like, I've gotta stop. But I could not take my eyes locked in.

[Nick]

At that point, I would be thanking the Lord that he, like, gave me that in flight entertainment, because usually WI fi is just never working.

[Sierra]

And that's what he said. He said. I. He said, I tried out the free WI fi and so I figured I'd text you. That was his first text to her.

[Nick]

And honestly, I was definitely not his wife.

[Sierra]

Well, she texted like, Nick. She sent very much like, yeah, nice. Okay, cool. Until he started talking dirty. And then she was like, emoji, emoji, emoji. Yes, yes, yes, daddy. Crazy, crazy. And then he would, like, look kind of, like, over. I think maybe he was looking at river because obviously she was asleep. But I had to act so, like, I'm not staring at your phone. I was, like, looking out the window. I'd close my eyes. I would act like I was doing absolutely anything but reading this man's text.

[Tucker Wetmore]

Wait, and you said there's an older couple?

[Sierra]

He was. He was an older man just by himself.

[Nick]

Like, how old?

[Sierra]

Uh, late 60s, probably. Um, good for him. Yeah, he was working on it. He's working. He's working. And anyways, I have never felt stronger in my arms than this trip with River. First of all, I mowed the lawn the day before. Let's just get that out in the air. I mowed the lawn, the front yard, and then there was a thunderstorm rolling in. So I was like, oh, my God. I have to finish, or else we're gonna, like, be fucked. And river was asleep for the front lawn. And then she wakes up as soon as I start the back. And I was like, you gotta do this with me, honey. We gotta finish. So I bring her outside. She's just, like, standing there watching me for a while. We're playing peekaboo. I'm like, where's mommy going? To the side of the house. And then I'm like, peekaboo. I'm back.

[Nick]

Is that why there's a couple, like, patches?

[Sierra]

Yes. Yes. And then she was, like, chasing me. It was a whole thing. Like, we were really trying to get it done. We were a team for sure.

[Amanda]

Did you start the lawnmower by yourself?

[Nick]

It's electric.

[Sierra]

It's electric. Yes.

[Nick]

But how do you press a button?

[Sierra]

But there are a lot of buttons that would have made my life easier had I known about them.

[Nick]

She definitely figured out on her own. There was no tutorial.

[Sierra]

And what honestly made it a little worse for me is as I'm killing myself on the front lawn, landscapers drive by, and they do the lawn next to me with a riding mower. And I have never felt more watched and judged in my entire life. I will be honest with you.

[Nick]

They're probably checking you out.

[Sierra]

I think they were probably looking at all the missing patches or. And all this. You know, I'm just.

[Nick]

Well, they didn't. They didn't come over and offer you a card or anything?

[Sierra]

They didn't.

[Nick]

What a. What an opportunity to get new business.

[Natalie]

No, they were like, she's got it handled.

[Sierra]

Anyway, so I was really sore from doing all that. So then now I'm going to the airport. I've got River's car seat. I've got our suitcase with both of our stuff in it, and I have, like, the diaper bag. And I have river over. I can't put her down to walk because she'll end up, like, not going the. Yeah, we're going the wrong direction. Right. She's not heading the right way, so I'm holding her the whole time. And when I landed in Savannah, my sister picked me up, and we got in the car, and as we drove off, there was a bomb threat in the Savannah airport, and everyone had to evacuate. Like, people couldn't take their things. Like, stuff was being left on flights. Like, they were like, this is going to take pretty much A whole day to get everything back on schedule. Like, they were so behind people. Like, they had to find their luggage after they all came back in. Just nightmare.

[Tucker Wetmore]

So terrifying.

[Sierra]

Praying for the best for everybody.

[Nick]

Well, thankfully you got back in time because you, like, you came back the.

[Sierra]

Next day in the same day I did, but we. But she had so much fun at the farm, and she was just running around and seeing all the animals and was just, like, it was so cute, and she loved it so much. And it's, like, so fun to start seeing now she's at an age. And Leia, you'll get there soon. Of, like, where you start to see them, like, experience things through their eyes. And you're like, oh, no, that's so cool. Like, they think this is the greatest thing ever. And it's something you've seen a million times.

[Nick]

I was away from her for three days. That's the longest I've ever been away from her. And it honestly felt like she developed and evolved. Like, it was. It was not fun. I mean, I enjoyed missing her. I do feel like she missed me. So that was a new experience. That was fun. But I thought I might have to leave her for, like, five weeks and ended up not having to leave her for, like, for work. And I honestly couldn't imagine what that would have been like.

[Sierra]

No, she would have been a completely different baby.

[Nick]

Yeah. So, I mean, that's crazy. Well, we have an amazing show lined up for you today, and not too long. Angela Oakley from the Real Housewives of Atlanta will be joining us after an explosive episode last night where she got. She was. She was, she says, boxing with everyone.

[Sierra]

She says stretch marks around your lips.

[Amanda]

Your mouth got mouths.

[Sierra]

She said, that mouth got miles on it, honey. That was crazy.

[Nick]

If you do get, you know, you see people with. Who go a little nuts with those injections, and you get those stretch marks you've never seen.

[Sierra]

I don't think she was referring to filler, though. She was talking about, like, sucking bit.

[Amanda]

Oh, she definitely wasn't.

[Nick]

Yeah, Well, I was just like, you know, good point. You know, like, be very cautious with those. Those. Those injections. But anyways, you know, either way, I'm glad we got to the bottom of it. She will be joining us as well. Also. Tucker Wetmore is joining us, fresh off of his appearance at Stagecoach. He's like, one of the hottest new country artists in country music today, and we got to hang out with him for a bit. He slid into someone's DMs. I really appreciated the swing at Least.

[Sierra]

Yeah, yeah.

[Nick]

She. Everyone's surprisingly wholesome. How many DM slides do you think this particular lady gets every day? Thousands.

[Natalie]

So many.

[Sierra]

Think of the number.

[Nick]

Yeah. Also this week on Going Deeper, Lexi Wood will be joining us to talk about her relationship with Jesse. Why, how she ended up on the show in the first place. It'll be a great chance to actually get to know Lexi Wood. She has a very interesting past. She dated Brooklyn Beckham, so I'm curious how she felt like that was like, that transition from, like, Brooklyn to Jesse was. Anyways, we'll be talking with her, so that should be a very interesting episode. I. I really appreciate how she's been handling herself this season. It's. It's been fun to watch. I've been pretty impressed with Lexi. I think she surprised lots of us with just how she kind of showed up this season, so it would be great to get to know her.

[Sierra]

I was really surprised with the Valley reunion seating chart because. What is that?

[Nick]

Because, like, Michelle and Jesse are like, my two favorite in terms of following on the show. Jesse's getting a front seat, but Michelle, she's at the end. Do you think it's maybe because they're just so toxic and hate each other so much that they just have to be the furthest distance apart from each other?

[Natalie]

I mean, even if that is the case, I would have preferred to have Michelle sitting second seat and Jesse, like, so far toward the end that he's not even on camera.

[Nick]

I know, obviously, in terms of, like, we assume the people closest to Andy are probably going to get, like, the most airtime, but are there other aspects of the seating chart in terms of how they determine it? What's this fan speculation?

[Amanda]

I mean, I did see someone comment on the seating chart saying, like, funny that Michelle is like the prime storylines, but she's the last seat. And then Sheena commented on that comment saying, like, don't worry, I've been there too. Or whatever. I don't know, something. So I think it's just like, whoever they think is going to be the most relevant come the reunion time goes first and second seat, and then from there you separate them based off, like, who's friends with who, who can't talk to who. And it's also like a color coordinated thing as well. They're sent colors to, like, match their placements where they are.

[Nick]

So maybe she just wore the wrong outfit.

[Tucker Wetmore]

You know, I think it's just that there's more diabolical shit coming from Jesse this season that there's a Lot more to talk to Jesse about than there is Michelle, I guess.

[Sierra]

But I feel like anything diabolical he'd have to do would have to do with Michelle. So it's like, why not have Britney, Jax, Michelle, Jesse, then Kristen, Luke, Nina, Danny, Jasmine, and Zach? Because I get they want to keep the couples together, so why not put the couples kind of closer to the end and the two toxic divorcees at the top? I have questions.

[Tucker Wetmore]

Maybe Nick's got onto something and he. She's like, I don't want to have to stare at him the whole time. And they're like, cool. Then you can sit at the end. She's like, okay.

[Sierra]

I guess maybe if it was pitched.

[Nick]

Well, Jax, Taylor doesn't think he was ever supposed to get married. Okay. Yeah.

[Sierra]

What a weird thing to say. I guess just like having a kid, which I guess, like the kid came after marriage, right? Yeah.

[Tucker Wetmore]

And I think that, like, everybody in Vanderpump was, like, growing up and settling down and whatnot. So he just kind of felt like this was his next step. I don't know that he ever really should have gotten married, to be honest. Just like, his behavior didn't really change that much. And as we've seen from the Valley, it's not like he's matured or tried to, like, really work on his marriage. So I'm like, I just don't think it's something that he ever wanted to do. And then I think it was something that he felt he should do because he was with Britney and she wanted to get married.

[Nick]

But I know Jax will never come on this show because I think I'm still blocked. So I think that's probably a non starter. But Jesse had put in a very similar category in terms of, like, how in different ways this comes across as like an emotional terrorist to women. Again, Jax, like, I think there ly is some kind of mental health crisis going on there. Jesse seems of sound mind and sound body. Like, he seems like a rational person. And like, I can't. I just. How does he watch this stuff and just be comfortable leaning in? You know, like, it's. You see people in other shows and other seasons, like, have like, you know, maybe a bad edit or whatever because they're just kind of messy and they're going for it and fighting with friends. But like, again, when it comes like this show, and that's why I love it and so real, it's just like we're talking about the most intimate interpersonal relationships. Husband and wife, dad, parent, you know, things like that and specifically around these men and how they talk to treat women. And it's. It's one thing to be Jesse and West and be kind of like unserious fuck boys who just like, need to grow up and like, maybe look a little embarrassing because, like, they're in their early 30s, like partying at 4am like, it's another thing to look like you're. You're. You're dangerous to women or that you're like, emotionally, you're an emotional terrorist. And I just, I want to know what, like, if they're comfortable like, just being known as that on tv. And like, Jesse ended season one, had an opportunity to watch it, and like, no notes, you know what I'm saying? Like, he's come in just as toxic, just as. Just terrible, and I just truly must be who he is. And again, this is how Michelle, like, Michelle talks about him in this manner. So it's just. I don't know, like, it still blows my mind that he, like, had a thing with Anna Nicole Smith. Like, I mean, you know what? She was kind of, in some ways. In some ways I don't. Like, maybe not the best comparison, but like, in terms of like, the Internet's girlfriend of every man's dream, like, like Sydney Sweeney is today, like, Anna Nicole Smith kind of was that back then. And the fact that he had let a conversation with her, let alone like, maybe some kind of dating relationship, maybe that just, like, fucked him up forever. Like, maybe he just, like, he thought he was like God's gift to human beings that, like, it justified him acting this way. I don't know. I'm. I'm mesmerized by it, but it's something.

[Amanda]

I mean, Jesse and Jax are the type of men to just copy someone else's merch line. As we saw Jax copied Kristen's merch line.

[Tucker Wetmore]

That was kind of crazy. It's like, like screenshots.

[Sierra]

I like Kristen and I was like, I need you to post Jax's response to your text literally. But she never respond. But I would. I. And I'm assuming he probably didn't respond. I feel like that's the type of thing Jacks would just, like, ignore. But that was so funny, Kirsten, to be like, Jacks. This is a complete, like, replica.

[Tucker Wetmore]

It's an exact ripoff. And it's photos from her from her website.

[Sierra]

It's crazy. It's crazy.

[Tucker Wetmore]

But are we surprised? No.

[Amanda]

Did you see that Katie from Real Housewives of OC might not be, like, on next season or there's like a feud happening right now. Have you been see this?

[Sierra]

I feel like I just asked Alex Baskin about her and he was like, love.

[Nick]

Yeah.

[Sierra]

What was happening?

[Amanda]

She wasn't invited on the cast trip. She starts posting on her own. And then a source spoke out and basically said Katie wanted to go on the trip, but she was not allowed to. Let's just say her future on Real Housewives of Orange county is not looking bright.

[Tucker Wetmore]

What do you mean, not allowed to?

[Amanda]

I don't know. I'm assuming it was a cast trip hosted by whoever she's feuding on.

[Nick]

Do you think Alex Baskin would lie to us?

[Tucker Wetmore]

Yes.

[Amanda]

Well. And the source also said she got into a major altercation with Gretchen Rossi and Emily Simpson without saying too much. A major announcement will be coming soon regarding her status on the show.

[Tucker Wetmore]

Emily has not liked her since last season.

[Amanda]

So she and Gretchen.

[Tucker Wetmore]

That's t. Yeah. It's like Gretchen's new. Unless she knows her from before, definitely will be watching.

[Nick]

Alan Cummings says reality stars are constantly begging him to join Traders. He says I have constant barrages of reality stars now in my DMs and in my life asking me to be on the Traders. That makes sense. They think he's casting, you know, the hottest reality TV show on TV right now with. With probably the lowest risk of, like, looking bad.

[Sierra]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. There's really no, like, villains, I guess, besides Danielle, but, you know, there's really no villains.

[Tucker Wetmore]

And even then, I don't think she was like a villain more so than people were just, like, upset with her gameplay.

[Sierra]

Yeah.

[Tucker Wetmore]

You know what I mean? Like, people don't take it personally the way they do in reality tv, where it's like, I have a villain and I have a favorite. It's like traitors. You're like, well, I would do things differently, but, like, I don't hate her.

[Nick]

I mean, it's interesting how broad of a net they cast in terms of, like, what shows. You know, obviously you have all of Bravo, Bachelor Nation, you know, all the years of Bach and Bravo Alum, and then you have the gamers, if you've popped in any. Just in reality TV in general. Plus now I. I've heard they're trying to elevate it a little bit, you know, maybe like, maybe get more athletes or an actor or whatever. So I think it's not going to just be reality TV stars, you know, things like that. Because they've always, you know, they've always, like past two seasons, they've had some, like, British royal, you Had Parliament the season before. Then you had Royalty last season. So I think you're going to see them sprinkle in other cast people other than reality TV stars. But I would be. I would love to know who's. Who's. Who's DM Allen trying to get on and wondering if they really have a shot or not. I'm guessing if you're DMing, you have no shot.

[Sierra]

I mean, I don't think Alan is, like, your way in.

[Nick]

Yeah, Alan's not the way in. He's just. He's just the host. He has nothing. I mean, I suppose if he really, really was passionate about someone, I guess he could call in a favor and he could certainly put him in the front of the line.

[Sierra]

But, yeah, I feel like if you're DMing Alan and not, like, calling him or like seeing him when y'all hang out and asking, maybe you aren't close enough to get, like, put on that.

[Nick]

Way, you know, unless you recently popped and, like, recently in the past 18 months at the maximum, and you've, like, popped in some crazy way, and maybe you just, you know, you don't have a manager or an agent or you don't like. You know what I'm saying? But most of these reality TV stars that they're casting at this point are, like, have been in the business long enough that they have kind of representation of some kind. So I'm guessing that would be the person you would go through.

[Tucker Wetmore]

I've seen some rumors that Love island people from season six will be, oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, it would be Cordell.

[Nick]

Sweet.

[Amanda]

But aren't they filming the spinoff?

[Tucker Wetmore]

These bitches are booked and busy.

[Nick]

Like, well, that's probably.

[Tucker Wetmore]

I would not be surprised.

[Nick]

Maybe that's why.

[Kyle]

That's why Rob and Cordell.

[Nick]

Cordell. Didn't they say Cardell was doing another show or another job? It's traitors.

[Amanda]

But he said it wasn't Traders.

[Nick]

He said it wasn't Traders.

[Amanda]

Yeah. Oh, well, he said it was corrupt.

[Tucker Wetmore]

But also he could be lying because he doesn't want anybody to know he's going to be on Traders. That's. I feel like that's fair.

[Sierra]

I mean, I guess he could have just not said anything, you know, if it was true. Oh, like, is it traitors?

[Nick]

That's the obvious guess.

[Tucker Wetmore]

And I think people are trying to put a negative spin on him not being a part of the cast. Like him and Rob and then Serena was the one that came out and been like, my baby is booked and busy.

[Sierra]

That's why?

[Tucker Wetmore]

He's not in there, but he'll be on there supporting me. So I think that she kind of led into it. And then he obviously got interviewed by TMZ and was like, no, I'm on something. It's a scripted show. But I'm like, that would also be.

[Sierra]

A good way to diverge.

[Nick]

He told this. Yeah. I mean, if I'm him, I'm lying.

[Tucker Wetmore]

I'm like, yeah, it was an interview, like, on the streets that I saw.

[Natalie]

I feel like Serena said it wasn't traitors.

[Nick]

Maybe it's not. Oh, she'd be crazy if they didn't ask someone from last season on Traders. Given, like, the synergy of Peacock in Love Island. That would be kind of nuts.

[Tucker Wetmore]

Honestly, wouldn't Rob have been a good contender for Traders because he's kind of like straight faced.

[Nick]

Yeah. Quiet, unassuming.

[Tucker Wetmore]

You wouldn't really know.

[Nick]

Mysterious, hard to read.

[Tucker Wetmore]

You know, can cry randomly.

[Nick]

He. He'll probably, you know, he'll probably get that offer. I'm sure he'll get an offer. But, you know, the Peter Weber, the Dylan kind of role. I could see Rob coasting pretty far. Just being quiet and good looking. I mean, or just like Sam.

[Tucker Wetmore]

Just like Sam.

[Nick]

I would be shocked if there's. That would be crazy to not have someone from that cast on the next season of Traitors.

[Tucker Wetmore]

Agreed.

[Natalie]

I mean, I wouldn't complain to see them on my screen.

[Amanda]

This is a housewife I want to see on Traitors. Stephanie Soje from the upcoming Miami Housewives.

[Tucker Wetmore]

Oh, a new housewife.

[Amanda]

She's new. And I know that doesn't apply to Traitors, but, like, there's a line in the trailer where it's like, Alexia and her. So an OG versus her going off. And she might have been from the original cast, but she goes, oh, I'm Alexia. And, like, mocks her. And I was like. Because Alexia always throws her name out there. Like, that's one of the people she is on the cast.

[Tucker Wetmore]

Yeah.

[Amanda]

And I just feel like it's going to be a good season in Miami.

[Tucker Wetmore]

Oh, I'm so excited. I want updates on Lisa Hochstein. I want to know what Alexia Alexi is no longer with. What's his. Peter or. No, Peter's her son.

[Amanda]

I don't remember.

[Sierra]

Yeah.

[Tucker Wetmore]

What's his name? I'd love to see a single Alexia again.

[Nick]

When you say she throws her name out there, like, third person.

[Tucker Wetmore]

No, like, you know who I. You don't. Do you know who I am?

[Amanda]

Yeah. So, like, in the thing she's like, don't talk to me that way. I'm Alexia Nippola or whatever. And she. And she goes, oh, I'm Alexia. And, like, mocks her. And I'm like, we know.

[Nick]

Has anyone ever done that? Like, said, I'm. I'm Leia.

[Amanda]

Well, that's embarrassing.

[Nick]

Yeah.

[Sierra]

No, never.

[Tucker Wetmore]

We have this thing called humility. Have you.

[Nick]

Oh, you. No, I refuse.

[Amanda]

He hesitated.

[Tucker Wetmore]

You never walked into a room and said, I'm Nick, and I demand this.

[Natalie]

I don't know if I ever really, like, say my name.

[Tucker Wetmore]

I've never referred to myself in third person.

[Sierra]

Yeah, I don't think I ever either.

[Tucker Wetmore]

Sierra, Lunch.

[Nick]

But, like, I think we're all in agreement. It's a very embarrassing thing for someone to do, and yet there's plenty of people who do it. Like, it's not that Lala used to.

[Tucker Wetmore]

Do that all the time.

[Amanda]

Technically, Nick does it every day. Think about it. Every episode. How do we open the show?

[Sierra]

What's going on?

[Amanda]

Welcome back to the Vile Files.

[Nick]

That's so different. Introducing yourself. Thank you very much.

[Tucker Wetmore]

No, but Lala used to do that all the time on Vanderpump Rules. She'd be like, you want Lala to pop off?

[Amanda]

Yeah, true.

[Tucker Wetmore]

Is Lala in the room with us?

[Sierra]

Do you want to get popped, or are you trying to get along? Well, I don't want to get popped, Literally.

[Nick]

All right, well, up next, Angela Oakley from the Real Housewives of Atlanta joins us. And following that, we'll break down last week's episode of Summer House. I kind of already. I've teased a little bit, but I've, like, Jesse and west have given me, like, a revelation about, like, dating. Dating in general. And excited to break it all down with you after Angela, but she is with us right now, so let's bring her on. I'm a bread girl, and that is why I love hero bread. Because, you know, I'm not the only bread girl out there. With Herobred, you can focus on your health goals and still indulge in your favorite bready meals guilt free. You guys all know I've been a little bit of a health kick this year. All I really done is, like, stay away from, like, sugar. I'm still enjoying bread, and I'm doing it because I have Herobred by my side, because whatever they're doing, like, I just feel a lot less, like, you know, full of bread or, like, puffy after bread.

[Sierra]

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[Nick]

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[Sierra]

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[Nick]

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[Sierra]

Honestly, every time Nick walks into a room with a Mack Weldon shirt on, I'm like, oh, my God.

[Nick]

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[Angela Oakley]

Hello. How are you?

[Nick]

Great. Welcome to the show.

[Angela Oakley]

Thank you.

[Sierra]

You look stunning. What are you doing, girl?

[Angela Oakley]

I did my own makeup.

[Nick]

See, we respect that. Yeah, I feel like. Do you. How many housewives do you feel like do their own glam before our Show. I'm very impressed because I feel like Housewives maybe are the most, like, in demand of glam.

[Angela Oakley]

Yeah. But it's so early. I was like, I didn't have anyone to call. We're in Miami right now. Hence, we're at the Paena. Little background bedroom set.

[Nick]

Well, you look stunning. I would have. We would have never known how you were enjoying your rookie season on the cast of Real Housewives of Atlanta. Is that everything you imagined or.

[Angela Oakley]

No, it's not. It's not. And they say you get upset, you know, three times when it happens, when you see it, and then at the reunion. So I'm on my second time, you know, getting upset about what I'm thinking, what I'm seeing.

[Nick]

Okay.

[Angela Oakley]

But overall, I feel like we're doing. We're doing okay.

[Nick]

Okay. Well, last night's episode was definitely Angela heavy in the best possible way. We really. We really enjoyed it. But, like, what did you think about what you saw? Like, yeah, what you. You kind of referred that it was a little bit upsetting. Was it just, like, being triggered and brought back to that moment? Like, what did you find that was maybe the little. Most upsetting for you?

[Angela Oakley]

I feel like a lot of it was, you know, unnecessary. I didn't feel like we had to get that far. But as I'm watching it back, I see why it was necessary. You know, I was like, oh, you've been talking about me this whole time in relation to one of the castmates, when I thought we were friends, when I thought we had moved on, but clearly that wasn't the case. So once it got, you know, once it hit ahead, I was just like, you know what? Let me nail this head all the way in or.

[Sierra]

So it don't come back out, don't.

[Angela Oakley]

Grow hairs, don't sprout nothing. I want to see remnants of you again. I'm tired of it. Here we go.

[Sierra]

Was it frustrating for you to kind of see, like, with the. With the Portia and Charles accusations, her deny it to you, and then in her confessionals, admit to it?

[Angela Oakley]

No, I didn't think she would, you know, admit to it, per se, because she had the opportunity to admit to it when I went downstairs that night. Yeah, you know, that is. That was the perfect time to. To say, hey, I did say it, you know, so I didn't wait. I went directly to the source when I heard it, and just to see what she meant, what, you know, what she said, why she said what she said.

[Sierra]

And you still haven't really gotten an Answer.

[Angela Oakley]

No, I know.

[Sierra]

She apologize.

[Angela Oakley]

She said she said it. She said she said it. I think we're beyond her saying it.

[Sierra]

Okay.

[Angela Oakley]

It's just a matter of, you know. Why would you say something like that?

[Nick]

Well, Angela, I've been a big fan of your husband for a long time. I mean, shoot, like, since he was rocking and rolling with the Knicks. Been a big fan. But what does he think about this whole housewives experience? Has he been as triggered as you have? Is he going through the 3st alongside with you, or is he kind of checked out?

[Angela Oakley]

Well, he initially was checked out. You can see that on screen. He's like, I don't care. Whatever. Whatever. He initially just. But now he is clocked in. He was like, they don't even know me. Why are they saying this about me? So he is fully immersed in this experience, and I need him, you know, I need him with me because it's like 20 versus one right now.

[Sierra]

Yeah, it was that. That the. The Cynthia Bailey barbecue was.

[Angela Oakley]

The Bailey.

[Sierra]

The Bailey Cube.

[Angela Oakley]

I had a ball. Cynthia put on a great barbecue. The food was good. I just had to do a little housekeeping, but I had them all. We had a ball.

[Nick]

I really respected the barbecue sauce in the. The pitcher.

[Angela Oakley]

Yeah.

[Nick]

Like, very easy distribution because usually, you know, you have to the spoon and you're there in line, and it's like, scoop, scoot. You know, you're holding the lineup. You could just pour it. It's very. I really respect that.

[Angela Oakley]

50 always has a great idea about how to, you know, make something work.

[Nick]

Speaking of food, why won't Charles eat your food?

[Sierra]

Nick won't eat my food either, so it's okay.

[Angela Oakley]

Excuse me. You know what? I think I'm a very good cook. He's just so particular. But let me be clear. I'm not trying to wrestle him out of the kitchen. By all means, if you want to cook, my chairs don't even eat it.

[Nick]

So they don't eat your food or they don't eat Charles's food?

[Angela Oakley]

They don't eat my food.

[Nick]

No, that, that. That's. We have the same thing going on in our household, too.

[Angela Oakley]

Who cooks?

[Sierra]

Who does the cooking?

[Nick]

I cook.

[Sierra]

He's very particular. Yeah, this is a right way to cook.

[Nick]

And there's. There's a wrong way to cook. That's all.

[Angela Oakley]

And there's the easy way to let you cook.

[Sierra]

Yeah, I step out of the kitchen.

[Nick]

I enjoy cooking. I enjoy doing it. I really. I really do. I feel at home in the kitchen. So I'm not Complaining at all. I imagine Charles feels the same way. I imagine he enjoys being in there.

[Angela Oakley]

He prefers me to get out of the kitchen, and I adore that. I love. I get mad when I have to cook. Like, when he travels, I'm like, so, what are we going to eat?

[Sierra]

You know, like, oh, God, I got to order something.

[Kyle]

Yeah.

[Nick]

One thing I. I'm kind of always astounded by and fascinated by this show. It's why when Nana and I get approached about ever talking about, you know, being on these types of shows, I'm like, no, fuck you. No way. Because, like, the way cast just like, platforms, the dirtiest and nastiest of rumors about people is, like, part of getting the drama, which can be very damaging to, like, real relationships. So, like, how did. How did you feel about Portia just doing that to you?

[Sierra]

Like, that Brit initially is the one who threw it out.

[Angela Oakley]

Who threw out the Wendy Williams story?

[Nick]

You know what?

[Angela Oakley]

That. That story keeps circulating. But I will say, I don't know if that story is not. I think the story is the reason was passed away, because I feel like it just gives so much drama. But that's not the case. Charles did not have a side baby. We can clear that his son is of age. I don't know if it's time for me to tell his true age, but I initially said it, and Wendy Williams and I had a conversation that just went left. I gave her some unsolicited advice.

[Nick]

Are you able to share what that advice was?

[Angela Oakley]

I told her, you know, maybe she should stay with her husband. And I know he had a baby on her, but I just thought I was the biggest Wendy fan, and I felt like now's my chance. I saw her in a private event, and I just went up to her. If Charles knew I did this ahead of time, he would have just kicked me out the party because me and my big house, you know. So I was like, now's my time. I snuck over to her, and I was just like, wendy, you know, it's just a baby. And she went off. That's why I'm like, the fans are defending Wendy. Wendy went off on me herself. So it wasn't like Wendy was just sitting there. She was like, you know, get the F away from me. And she was just like, has that ever happened to you? Oh, Wendy went off, and she had her manager right by her. And I'm like, what did you say? Just that it's just a baby. And I felt like, look, I'm sorry. I have not lived this day down in my life. Like, this is one of my worst moments. Because now I'm thinking back, and I'm like, that was Wendy Williams. Like, who the heck do you think you are to give her unsolicited advice?

[Sierra]

What was Charles reaction when you told him you did that?

[Angela Oakley]

Well, he didn't know. He only got the reaction of me just being. Just, oh, my God, Wendy just cussed me out.

[Nick]

Angela, I just want to say, first of all, thank you for sharing that story. Second of all, we all have a story in our life about just like. Just like, I don't know, just kind of being out of body and doing something where we were like, what the fuck was that? But walking up to Wendy Williams and saying, it's just a baby was a crazy thing to say.

[Angela Oakley]

And it grew legs. And I'm sitting at home eating my bonbons, and she's on her show. Like, I saw Charles. And I'm just flabbergasted because here I am, just a regular civilian, and my name is splashed on her show. And you know what she did what I would have done, too. Like, if you're bold enough to say this to me, I'm gonna put some juice on it. I'm gonna put some sauce on it. I'm gonna make it juicy, because you done lost your mind. And that's what Wendy did. So she gave me what I deserved. She added that. I said, he had a baby on me. It was not Charles Oakley. No. It was my oldest daughter's father who. You know.

[Sierra]

Is that kind of why whenever Brit brought it up at Cynthia's party that you were kind of like, what? You kind of didn't really have this. Like, oh, my God.

[Angela Oakley]

I was like, you better have receipts.

[Sierra]

Yeah, yeah, you gotta.

[Angela Oakley]

Where are your receipts? Because we're not gonna bring rumors to the table because there's enough to go around for everybody.

[Sierra]

Yeah.

[Angela Oakley]

So I was just like, you better have receipts. And of course, the only receipt they're gonna pull up is the Wendy Williams video.

[Sierra]

Watching that scene back was, did you regret anything you said, or do you stand by everything you said to Britt?

[Angela Oakley]

It took me too long to get to that point to have a regret. Like, I was slow walking it.

[Sierra]

Yeah.

[Angela Oakley]

Now I don't have a regret. I'm sorry I took my time with you. I thought we were friends in Nashville. I thought we were friends when we saw each other at Neiman Marcus. I thought we had moved forward just based on me asking you a simple question with regards to her license. I thought we moved Past it, but apparently we didn't. And so I was just like, now. And I had apologized to her 15 times. Yeah, I was tired. And that was the result of just saying, you know, what it is, what it is. Sorry for it.

[Sierra]

You said that Mouth got miles on it. Stretch marks around the lip.

[Angela Oakley]

Hey, I'm just throwing rocks. If you get hit, Holla.

[Nick]

And Angela, do you ever practice your zingers, your one liners, as a new housewife? Because, like, we've heard different things that, like, some housewives are just like that, witty. Other housewives, we've heard rumors, like, they hire comedy writers or writers that come up with lines for. For shows. Are. Are you just naturally like that, or do you have to, like, think about it, you know, going into some moments where, you know there's going to be.

[Angela Oakley]

Some drama about it? Like, I didn't know she was going to invite me to her mouth. You know what I mean? Like, why would. That's what all of the content is. Like, why would you invite me to your mouth? When she said, read the words that are coming, I'm like, what your mouth? Let's talk about it. No, you. You. You don't have time to really, because you're. You're immersed in the moment and. No, I heard that as well, that some, you know, that people have writers and our family is just naturally sarcastic. Natural. And me and Charles go at it all day.

[Sierra]

What are your thoughts on Kelly?

[Angela Oakley]

You know what? I will say after this episode, I was a little disappointed in Kelly because I just. I just want her to plant her flag and just be like, this is what it is. And sometimes I feel like she kind of, you know, goes wherever the wind blows, but I just didn't have an ally. And I was, you know, looking around like, oh, so it's all of y'all.

[Sierra]

Did you kind of feel like Drew left you hanging? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because there was that little clip of her being like, I'm not going over there. I'm staying over here.

[Angela Oakley]

And then I look back, I'm like, where were you? You know, I don't. That, you know, we didn't see that. But I'm like, where are you? And then I was like, in Nashville. I kind of felt like, where are you? You know?

[Sierra]

Yeah.

[Angela Oakley]

And then again, I feel like Drew could only assisted me. Her help would have been minimal because I felt like I got this, you know, sit down.

[Sierra]

I got. You have had her back for, you know, so it's like, yeah, where was she when you needed her?

[Angela Oakley]

Yeah, she she was.

[Sierra]

She.

[Angela Oakley]

She was not around.

[Sierra]

Yep.

[Angela Oakley]

But I don't think her not being around affected much with the outcome, because had she been around, it would have been the same, you know, would have been. You would have gotten what you got.

[Sierra]

Have you seen Kelly's dog?

[Angela Oakley]

I have.

[Sierra]

What are your thoughts on her spending a thousand dollars a month on coloring this dog?

[Angela Oakley]

I mean, that's her baby, and she treats her dog like her baby. Like baby. And so, you know, she spoils her dog, and I think that makes her feel good.

[Nick]

I mean, if. If, you know, like, you can't spoil a dog, right? Like, too much. Like, you know, with. With river, we're always like, okay, well, you know, we. You know, it's exciting to be able to give your kid things and have them see that, you know, excitement on their face. But at some point, you have to, like, pull it back out of fear that they might turn into something. But, like, with a dog, you know, you just. They're not. You get us just. You get to feel good all day long.

[Angela Oakley]

Just, her dog's glam is better than mine. Can you see our dog with lashes?

[Sierra]

Like, it's crazy.

[Angela Oakley]

So I think her dog may be used to a little, you know, dogs know. Dogs know when they're supposed to be glamorous. I think Kelly's dog knows.

[Nick]

Well, Angela, it's not just your first season. It's going to be your first reunion as well. And just like you said, like, there's filming the season and watching it, but the reunion is a whole nother beast going into it. Who in your cast do you want to address the most or, you know, get. You know, get to the bottom of anything? And is there also someone in your cast that you're worried that that might be coming for you?

[Angela Oakley]

I think all of them are going to come for me. You know, I don't feel like I have any allies. I hope that I'm wrong. You know, with the exception of Drew, I hope that I'm wrong. I just. I don't see any inroads to saying, hey, Angela may have been right. Like, I don't see any inroads to support. And so I don't know where that. If that's going to show up. However, I only have my intentions on clearing up some things that happen at the finale, and that happens with Phaedra when she comes, so they can come for me. I'll just be blocking and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

[Sierra]

Cause you and Portia ended on a good note at Cynthia's party, so something Else happens in the second half of.

[Angela Oakley]

The season, I felt like she tagged in. Help.

[Nick]

Okay.

[Angela Oakley]

That's just what it is.

[Nick]

Do you feel like it's a little bit of, like, rookie hazing?

[Angela Oakley]

Well, it's more than one rookie. You know what I mean? Like, why do I need all of the hazing? It's more than one rookie. I was. I thought I was walking into a group of. I don't know, I guess I thought we was gonna have tea and go shopping and talk about our children, talk about our marriages and our businesses, but no. So you see me slow walking and learning at the same time, like, oh, this is what we're doing. So it took me a while to catch up, but once I, you know, once I found out what we were doing, I was ready.

[Nick]

Okay. So it's safe to say that despite it not being what you expected and it being a little tougher, no regrets. And if they'll ask you, you'll come back for season two.

[Angela Oakley]

We have seven more episodes to go. Let's see what happens in these episodes.

[Sierra]

Are Kelly and Britt gonna beef at all? Because we see a little something in the trailer.

[Angela Oakley]

Their beef was so good. It was so funny.

[Sierra]

I was listening.

[Angela Oakley]

Popcorn. Like, I love it. Give me more.

[Sierra]

Whose side were you on?

[Angela Oakley]

And I'm not just, you know, it was just good to me. I mean, enough of me. Let's talk about Kelly and Britt. So they. It surprised me, but I will say it was. It's very entertaining.

[Natalie]

Did you.

[Sierra]

Were you on a side, Britt or Kelly's?

[Angela Oakley]

Of course I was on a side.

[Sierra]

Okay.

[Angela Oakley]

Kelly, no. Wrong. Kelly, we love you.

[Nick]

Last question before we let you go, Angela. What is. I'll ask Cynthia when I see her next. But I didn't know prophets were a thing. I thought that was, like, something like you read in a bible. Or is that this. Is that the same as, like, a psychic or a tarot card reader? Like, what's an art? Did you believe in that stuff?

[Sierra]

No.

[Angela Oakley]

I mean, no, no, no. I mean, do you guys remember Ms. Cleo? Or is that before your time?

[Nick]

I kind of know I'm a card.

[Angela Oakley]

Reader who, you know, your future. And it was just like, this big scam. But I won't talk about the. You know, because Cynthia adored her. But for me, I'm like, okay, like, you're telling me to be sexy for my husband. Okay, like, what. What else we got? What about these deals? Can we talk about these bills? Can we talk about, like, can we talk about stuff that matters?

[Nick]

Like, yeah, I forgot who she told, but she's like, you just need to slow.

[Sierra]

No, Shamia.

[Nick]

Yeah, I think slow down.

[Sierra]

She was like, you need to just. Yeah, yeah.

[Nick]

It was like, it's your year to make money. And sometimes doing nothing is doing something. And it's like, okay. Like, I don't know. It's this, like.

[Sierra]

Speaking of Shamia, why did you text her after Nashville?

[Angela Oakley]

I was pissed.

[Sierra]

Yeah.

[Angela Oakley]

So you are. You guys. You don't play with your spouse, right? I don't care who he is, what he's done. But I thought I was walking into a circle. Okay, I see some married women. So we're going to align. You don't have to like me. You can talk about me, but on our house, we're gonna align and we're gonna stay firm. So when I saw that Shamia just did not stand up to Portia in that moment, I was like, not you. You know what I mean? Like, come on. I thought we had something. And she explained that she doesn't take on Portia's beef. And she allows, which is not true, but she allows. You know, she allowed Portia to kiki and laugh. But you don't play about. That's just something I take serious. I don't play about my house, my kids.

[Sierra]

Yeah.

[Angela Oakley]

And so to see other women, even in the housewives sphere is, you know, it's different.

[Nick]

I respect it.

[Sierra]

What did your text really say to Shamia? Because they really made it out, like, you know.

[Angela Oakley]

Yeah, it was like, beep, beep. You know what? Beep, beep.

[Sierra]

And then it was like fast forward. It was the longest message ever.

[Angela Oakley]

It was laced with just disappointment, and it was more so just letting her know. And I thought it would, you know, reach her in a way that it did not reach her. It did not land. She did not care, you know, because I've never seen women, especially of a certain age, just vie for the attention of one woman. And it was an audition. I'm sorry. It was just Portia standing and all of these women in her faces just dragging me, and I'm like, where's the individuality? Where's the independence? Where is the. I don't know. I just didn't see.

[Sierra]

Who on the cast has disappointed you the most? Her. Yeah, her.

[Angela Oakley]

I walked in with high hopes for her. And I hate to give, you know, put high hopes or anything on anyone, but I'm like, okay, we're married. Boom. We gotta protect our house.

[Kyle]

Boom.

[Angela Oakley]

I don't. And we're Tauruses, you know, the Zodiac.

[Sierra]

Yeah.

[Angela Oakley]

And that didn't happen. And so that once I saw, you know, Shamia for what she was in that moment, I just like, you know what? We are. Let's fair game.

[Sierra]

Wow.

[Nick]

Well, Angela, it's been awesome to talk with you. Thanks for answering all our questions, sharing your stories. Good luck the rest of the way. We're definitely rooting for you. Really enjoying you so far. So thank you again and enjoy the rest of your day.

[Angela Oakley]

Thank you. Bye, you guys.

[Nick]

Bye. She's the best.

[Sierra]

What a queen.

[Nick]

Yeah.

[Sierra]

All of the.

[Amanda]

I love Angela.

[Sierra]

Housewives are just, like, so iconic. Even though it's her first season, I feel like she's iconic.

[Nick]

Oh, she's great. Yeah. Unafraid, just. She showed up today.

[Amanda]

Angela's also so iconic in Nashville when she filmed the Girls, and then she played back the tape, and you literally hear nothing. And she's like, it clearly happened.

[Sierra]

You're like, yeah. She's like. And I recorded him, and here's the proof. And he's like.

[Nick]

Okay, babe, I didn't ask you. But being away from. For me for three days, like, did you. Did you enjoy the break or. How much was I. I missed. Who missed me more? Where were you?

[Sierra]

I think probably me. I mean, listen, it's single moms out there. Like, you deserve all of the praise. It is incredibly hard to. I mean, and I can't even imagine with more children, but, like, it's hard. And I guess I realized how much you do.

[Nick]

Oh, really? Thanks. That was nice for you to say. That wasn't even a setup. I wasn't expecting.

[Sierra]

Oh, well, you do. Yeah, you do a lot. And it's hard when you don't have anyone else to be like, hey, can you take her for a moment so I can shower? You know, it was like me and river were taking a shower together. You know, we're going to bed at the same time.

[Nick]

Do you think. I mean, both tough situations. Do you think it'd be tougher single moms or deadbeat? Like, in. In a marriage with deadbeat dads? Just, like, absolutely. No.

[Sierra]

Oh, my God. Definitely deadbeat dads. Because then you gotta, like, take care of them as well. And it's like, you know, like, then they also want, like, attention from you or, like, sex from you. And it's like, you don't even. Yeah, definitely Debbie Dad. But I will say, when Nick got home, he was like, all right, I'm gonna go to the grocery store. And I was like, okay, well, you take River. And he's like, well, how Would I grocery shop and take River? I'm like, bitch, I was just doing this for.

[Nick]

I didn't say how you.

[Sierra]

You're like, and how would I like take her to the grocery store and grocery shop but like put her in the buggy and you walk around the store.

[Nick]

Fair. But. And I might have said that. But also I was partly just like, well, you were home and I'm home and it just seems unnecessary. Also, you guys have to understand that like river, we might be bonding more and more every day. And I did feel like my daughter missed me, but like the way river loves Natalie is. Is honestly special and awesome and, and it's really something. And it's just like I get a fraction of like, I just like, hey Dada. Like, just the fact that like my daughter knows my name and like refers to me is like pretty great. It's like, it's pretty exciting as a dad, but like she freaks out like if. If she's not with her mom for 10 minutes and then her mom pops around the corner. River is this like, like, yeah, it's. It's really the best. So I was just a little nervous, you know, because honestly sometimes when, you know, most. Most of the time when we drive with river, well, you're usually driving and I'm usually in back like keeping river preoccupied. So like she wasn't gonna be preoccupied, but she was well behaved. She was great. We played. River's really into music. I don't. Maybe that's another thing where I feel like I've told Natalie several, several times. I feel like river has like a. A music bone of some kind. She likes to dance. She just enjoys music.

[Sierra]

Someone in the bathroom at the airport, she. I was changing River's diaper and she was just kind of like. And the woman came to me, she was like, she's going to be a singer. And I was like, okay. Period.

[Nick]

No, but she really, she really seems into it. So anyways, I, I play. I went on Spotify and, and played like the greatest driving hits of all time, which started with some Fleetwood Mac. And we had a nice little 210 minute car ride and went to low grocery shopping. When Nellie asked, she was just like, I've been with her all for three days. And I was like, you're. That's a good point. So we went and had a good day. So it was a moment for us. We made a good team. People who are still figure out if they can be a good team with babies are Kyle and Amanda. I was surprised by how that, that Ended. I mean, that was a real conversation. It was really interesting to see and I get both of their answers. But I am curious. I wonder how much of that was like them willing to have that conversation for like TV purposes or like, is that something that she like to drop that bomb three years into a marriage and to say you've been thinking about it for a year is. It's, it's a lot to process. Like, it's, there's a little bit of like, you didn't tell me, why didn't you tell me? And then it's, it's, there's some sensitivity on that conversation.

[Sierra]

She makes a good point of being like, you're not bringing up a kid every day and you're still coming home at 5am hammered and like you're showing zero signs, ready to like, not, you know, doing that stuff.

[Nick]

That's a great point. And it kind of like I said, you know, watching the past two weeks of Summer House, like I had this kind of epiphany for all the people who listen to Ask Nick and we talk about situationships and dating and, and dating culture, you know, when, when sports. And I love Swartz. He's, he's a, he's a great guy. But like when Schwartz and Kyle are talking about being good dads and I'm sure, like, yeah, they seem like good people and sports has a great heart. But like. And again, maybe this is his tv. But like they, the boyishness of like the way these guys like Jesse specifically with Lexi, how entitled they are to make sure they have fun at a party or on a Saturday night and how like to ask them to give that up. They, they kind of, they kind of stomp their feet and throw a little bit of a fish about like, well, I'm just, I just, like, I'm just, I'm just trying to have fun, you know. And it made me think about, listen, if you are out there, ladies, I'd say this to anyone, I guess, but I think it's more like if you're in your mid-20s, early 30s and you're dating someone and you're in a situationship, like, ask yourself, like, do are these serious people? Because like, you know, Jesse and I've never met Jesse. I've met West. He's funny, he's likable, he's affable. But like he is, he's, he's kind of an unserious guy right now. So much of his life is unserious, you know, like Jesse, it's like the way they live their life is a bit unserious. Like, they kind of act like adult things are just kind of like a waste of their time. And if you're out there and you're like dating someone and like, their lifestyle is very unserious, like you're. They're not going to want to date you, especially if you're in a situationship. Like, think about it like defining a relationship that's a serious conversation, being a boyfriend, there's some a seriousness to it. But like, these are a bunch of guys who just don't. They're. Who gets on a fucking trampoline in the middle of the night to watch Zootopia on a laptop with four, like, of your bros. Like, that's just like a very unserious thing. I mean, I guess they're like fun and all, but like, that's not. None of. I guess Kyle is married. But like, these are people who just. They don't want to. They don't want to have the responsibility of being a partner or a dad. You know what I'm saying? Like, it's just too much for them. And if you. I mean, if you're dating someone who's just unserious about like being an adult, they're just not gonna. I wouldn't date them.

[Sierra]

No. I mean, yeah. Jesse caring more about, like, having fun at the party than checking on less than checking in on Lexi, like, just.

[Nick]

Proves west seems like at least two or three years away from like, maybe being in a relationship. Like, nothing about his lifestyle says I want someone saying, let's go to bed. Yeah. Can we do something else? Yeah, let's. I want to do this. I want to do that. Can you not do this? So we can do that.

[Sierra]

But I will say, I think, like, the one thing that I would encourage for like a healthy relationship for any two people is like, to go to bed at the same time. Like, I think that's so important for us.

[Nick]

Take that for granted.

[Sierra]

Yeah, right. Like, I thought about it while you were away of like, I get in the bed and like, like you're right there. But it's not like you're staying out in the living room and like, watching a movie on your own or like doing like, playing video games or like doing like we get in the bed at the same time.

[Nick]

I don't think there's ever a night that we went to bed separately.

[Sierra]

Right. Ever. In the, in the five years we've been together, we've never, like, I've never.

[Nick]

Been like, yeah, I'm just gonna stay up and watch a movie.

[Sierra]

It's crazy. And people do that. And I think that, like, causes, like. And I think it causes disconnection.

[Nick]

What about you guys? Not to put you on the spot, but like, like, I'm sure we're the exception in terms of every night, but how often do you guys go to bed at the same time? Assuming you're in the same house, you know, assuming like, you know, like, obviously you're both with partners who travel a lot.

[Natalie]

We're usually in bed like by 9, 9:30.

[Sierra]

Ish.

[Natalie]

And if I am, like, I'll feed Louie and then come into bed. If I'm coming to bed and Danny's already asleep, I'm pissed.

[Sierra]

Yeah, yeah.

[Natalie]

Like so mad. I'm just like, how dare you go to sleep before I get into bed.

[Sierra]

That's so valid.

[Natalie]

So yeah, I agree. But I can go to bed before him. That's allowed.

[Sierra]

Yes, of course.

[Nick]

No, no. There's a one day. We should make a list of all the things that you ladies, like, assume doesn't count for you.

[Sierra]

It's a long list. Sierra, what about you?

[Tucker Wetmore]

No, we never go to sleep at the same time. He's more of a night owl and I am asleep on the couch. If I watch something with him starting at 8:30, I wake up at 9:30, pissed off on the couch and like, trudge to bed bad. So.

[Nick]

Well, you guys have been together for how long? So you guys are clearly exceptions to our rule. So we can go ourselves.

[Tucker Wetmore]

Sorry.

[Nick]

No, I just don't want to feel. I just. I don't want to be like, calling you and Connor out like.

[Sierra]

Well, that relationship, there's. I mean, people have different things that work for their relationship. I'm just saying if you're feeling a disconnection in your relationship and y'all do that, maybe try going to bed together.

[Nick]

Everyone is definitely do your thing. But, like, you don't have the relationship that we have if you don't do it.

[Natalie]

You know what? My favorite same way Sierra. We're allowed to do it, but you're not allowed to do it. Thing is, what is mess? Like, my mess is okay, but if Danny leaves a sock on the floor or anything like, nope, not allowed, but my mess is okay.

[Nick]

I will say though, because Nally is a fairly messy people. We're. We're worse person. We're similar in that regard. Sorry if that offends you. You Neither of us are filthy, but we're both a little messy. But Nally's not Natalie's. Pretty good on that in that very specific department about not being a hypocrite.

[Natalie]

Meaning she just doesn't get upset with you for, like, having.

[Nick]

I just don't feel like she nags at me about my mess. And I, and I do leave a trail.

[Tucker Wetmore]

I get pissed at Connor because he cooks. He cooks in our house for us. But he is such a messy cook that, like, you can literally see all of the ingredients, what went into it, where he did what, and that drives me crazy. But it's also, like, hypocritical because I don't do the dishes either, because I don't cook. So I'm like, I can't really say anything, but I walk into the kitchen and I'm like, how did you do this?

[Nick]

That's something I really need to work on. Actually. Natalie, we, I, I, I need. For the longest time, I didn't wear an apron, and Nally's mom got me one for, I think, think my Christmas or something, whatever. And I was like, wow, this is genius because I have so many, I have so many oil stains on, like, every shirt. There's an oil stain on this shirt. It's like, on every shirt. It's, it's really. And it never dawned on me, but I can wear an apron. And I, like, I, I need to cook way more efficiently and cleaner. I do. I will say I really appreciate with Natalie is that, like, we have a handful of individual bad habits. You know, for example, Natalie, I don't.

[Sierra]

Think we need examples.

[Nick]

This, If I don't, if I don't take this. This is a half drinking matcha. This will sit here for weeks. Weeks, yes.

[Natalie]

The collection of cups.

[Nick]

Oh, my God. There's just half drinking cups everywhere. But every time I point it out, she'll, I don't know, she'll bring up one of my several bad habits. And then we're both kind of like, touche. And then we.

[Natalie]

That's one of the worst things ever, is being called out online, like something that you do, and then it's just like, you're right.

[Nick]

I honestly kind of find it helpful because I know I do that. And then I will get irritated at Natalie for the cups. And then when she brings it up, I'm like, okay, well, I probably should be less irritated about the cups.

[Sierra]

Like, last night in bed, I said something about how I'm like, nick makes something so well. And he was like, I'm gonna be honest. You gotta learn, like, how to cook, right? Like, you've gotta. And I was like, Whoa.

[Nick]

First of all, she was like, shut the up.

[Sierra]

I was with you, without you, and survived. We had three meals a day. Who do you think cooked them? Me. Who do you think ate? Well, us. I was like, we're going to shut the fuck up.

[Nick]

I shut the fuck up. Yeah.

[Sierra]

Not the time. It was.

[Nick]

I mean, it was crazy.

[Sierra]

It came out of left field. I was like, holy fuck. Like, okay.

[Nick]

I put river to bed, and when I got like, Natalie was, like, asleep on the chair, like, as if she passed out just, like, seconds later. You were. You were clearly exhausted. Did.

[Sierra]

Yeah. She doesn't stop.

[Nick]

Anything else we have to talk about from Summer House?

[Natalie]

I do. Sierra and I were talking about this earlier about Summer House, just about how, like, it kind of is starting to feel like two completely different shows. Say more like, you have Lindsay and Carl and Kyle and Amanda and Paige, and it just feels like their problems and what they're dealing with is, like, more adult. And then you have Lexi and Jesse and west, and it's like more of that, like, young 20s drama. And.

[Nick]

Well, I would say just young 20s. Jesse's in his late 20s, early 30s. But I will say, yeah, the dating drama. Less established. Haven't figured it out yet. Totally. Yeah.

[Natalie]

And when it.

[Tucker Wetmore]

Kyle.

[Natalie]

Yeah, Seeing Kyle being in the kitchen and, like, Lexi and Jesse are having this public argument. And normally Kyle would be like, yeah, we're in a public fight going on here. Like, I'm living for this. And he's just sitting there so bored, and he's like, do you guys have to be doing this, like, in public? Can you guys. Can you go get a room?

[Nick]

Yeah. That was kind of weird that he, like, tried to shut that down. It was.

[Tucker Wetmore]

It just makes me feel like these.

[Natalie]

Are two different shows now. Like, they couldn't care less about Lexi and Jesse's drama. It's like, I'm trying. I'm 42 and I want to have a kid, and I don't know if Amanda wants one. And you guys are. Have been together for less than a month and you're, like, fighting.

[Sierra]

Yeah. It's like, I don't think we'll ever see Paige, like, making out with someone on this show again or, like, hooking up. Like, she's. We're past that with Paige. She's not doing that anymore.

[Nick]

And she's packing to go home.

[Sierra]

Outfits, as she should.

[Nick]

Yeah. Like, that's where her mental energy is going is to, like, looking like a boss queen as she, like, leaves the. The weekend of debauchery.

[Sierra]

But that's Kind of like what I thought of, like, you know, oh, how funny was it that, like, she, like, made out with Carl in the pantry and, like, whatever. And then it's like, that will never happen. Like, we'll never see that from Paige again. And it's just because, like, that's not who she is. Like, she's not that version of herself anymore. And, like, we need. I think, yeah, we need a, like, not a revamp of Summer House, but maybe just like. Yeah, making it. Taking the older cast and giving them a new show and making Summer House, like, the younger craziness where we do get more of that. Like, does.

[Nick]

Does Kyle have any kind of producer credit? You know, we all kind of, like, infer that, like, Kyle started this, but, like, how. How much, if any, control does he have over Summer House? Like, is it his? Like, can they fire him?

[Amanda]

I mean, Lindsay has said that her, Carl and Kyle, like, created the show so that they know, like, they set the standards, but I don't think they have a producer.

[Tucker Wetmore]

Yeah, he is not a producer on the show, to be honest.

[Natalie]

I'm more invested in their drama. Like, I know that it's in Kyle.

[Sierra]

Amanda.

[Nick]

Oh, I'm more invested in Jesse and Lexi for sure.

[Natalie]

Really.

[Tucker Wetmore]

But that's why we were like, we kind of need two shows.

[Amanda]

I think you're right, though, because, I mean, Lindsay Hubbard, also, she's pictured with Jessel this weekend too. So I think we know there's, like, a shakeup with Summer House coming.

[Tucker Wetmore]

I just want. Yeah, the older people. I will follow Paige doing her Amazon Live. I'll follow Amanda doing her bathing suit line and then coming home to dealing with her DJ boyfriend in her apartment. Like, I would rather see that than. I personally, like, I'm not really into.

[Amanda]

But also the point of bringing Jesse and Wes in last season, I think, was to, like, shake it up, make it young.

[Nick]

I honestly feel like at this point for Paige, I feel like going on this show is, like, a net negative. I don't feel like it's helping her career outside of Summer House. I mean, she's thriving, you know, like, you know, her. Her business partner, essentially. I don't. I mean, like, Hannah Burner, they're both thriving equally. Like, you know what I'm saying? It's not like, you know, Hannah's hasn't been on Summer House. I just don't feel like Paige needs it at this point. I don't know if it's really helping her at this point other than just being kind of a headache to have to film, watch it back. Give, like people who are not you the control of your edit, like, you know what I'm saying? Like, if I'm Paige, like, I don't know what she's making or what they're paying her. So maybe it's just like a really nice paycheck that's like, tough to, you know, just let go. But I feel like she doesn't need it.

[Amanda]

But she's a big part of summer House, though.

[Tucker Wetmore]

I was gonna say.

[Amanda]

Yeah, I'm sure they're paying for a good amount.

[Nick]

Yeah, maybe. Yeah. I mean, she, she probably has more value to them than the other way around, that's for sure. Up next, the hottest new country star in country music, Tucker Wetmore joins us. And it's a great conversation.

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[Nick]

Tucker. Welcome to the show man.

[Kyle]

Thanks for having me. How you doing?

[Nick]

I'm great. We. We just saw you in concert, man. It was great.

[Kyle]

What'd you think? Think how I do.

[Nick]

You're pretty talented.

[Kyle]

Thanks man. Yeah, I appreciate it.

[Nick]

You got some. You got some music chops.

[Kyle]

That's right.

[Nick]

Yeah.

[Kyle]

Every once in a while.

[Sierra]

How. How was stage coach for you?

[Kyle]

It was something. It was fun. It was. It was a long weekend. Luckily I played on Friday So I wasn't too beat by the. By the time Showtime. Showtime hit. But it was a fun weekend. We did a lot of partying, for sure.

[Sierra]

It was a full crowd. And you were at what, like, 5:00? 4, 5. So something like. I feel like a lot of people usually don't get to the concert until later, but, like, I knew I wanted to, knew. I knew that, like, we needed to be there at, like, prime 3:00 to, like, get a good spot. And it was a full.

[Kyle]

It felt good. Yeah.

[Sierra]

Yeah. People showed up for Tucker.

[Kyle]

Yeah. Someone's gotta.

[Sierra]

As someone who is a brunette, there's no recognition for us. You know what I'm saying? There's a lot of, like. Like, everyone loves blondes. We get it.

[Kyle]

Yeah.

[Sierra]

We're over it.

[Nick]

All you've really had was. And you don't even have brown. Like that. My Brown Eyed Girl. What's that song? You know, where it's like, a lot of them are brunettes, you know?

[Tucker Wetmore]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Nick]

I guess Sandy Girl with Brown Eyes was like, this is my song.

[Sierra]

Yeah. So thank you, truly. Have you felt like there's been a wave of, like, brunettes who are flocking to you now because they feel like you want them?

[Kyle]

I don't know about flocking, but, like, definitely the DMS are pretty. Pretty swarmed with.

[Sierra]

Do you respond? Do you. Do you read DMS? Do you respond to DMs?

[Kyle]

Not often.

[Sierra]

Yeah.

[Nick]

I mean, it's how I met my wife.

[Kyle]

Really?

[Nick]

I did.

[Sierra]

I slid into his DMs.

[Kyle]

Really? I mean, I check him every once in a while, but I got.

[Nick]

You might be interested.

[Kyle]

I'm just saying, this last weekend, I. I was pretty tuned up on, like, Saturday night or something like that, and somebody came to the house. I threw a party at the house, and somebody goes, dude, Sydney Sweeney's here this weekend. I go, oh, I'm DMing her. I was. I was. I was pretty confident.

[Sierra]

She's blonde.

[Kyle]

Yeah.

[Sierra]

So which one is it?

[Kyle]

I didn't get a DM back, by the way.

[Nick]

What was the message?

[Kyle]

Hi, Sydney.

[Nick]

That's it.

[Kyle]

That's it. I was chuckling, too. I was like, honestly, we've.

[Sierra]

We've come to the conclusion that, like, it doesn't have to be clever. And I think a lot of people feel like.

[Nick]

I think it depends what direction the DMS are going.

[Sierra]

What do you mean?

[Nick]

Okay, well, when you DM'd me. Yeah. I don't. You just had to say hi.

[Kyle]

What did you say?

[Sierra]

I said, you're Unreal. I don't know.

[Kyle]

In a word.

[Nick]

Yeah. I looked at her pictures and I was like, yeah, absolutely. For sure.

[Natalie]

You are too.

[Kyle]

I'm in.

[Nick]

But yeah, I think, I think the. The ladies are a little. A little more cautiously. They dig a little deeper.

[Kyle]

A little bit.

[Nick]

Yeah.

[Kyle]

Yeah.

[Nick]

And you know, you're. You seem like a funny charm.

[Kyle]

Yeah, they ladies are bold, man.

[Nick]

Yeah.

[Kyle]

Especially in the DM world. They're. They're bold. They say some. Some wild things sometimes. I'm like, all right, yeah.

[Nick]

You ever felt violated by reading one?

[Kyle]

Yeah, a couple times.

[Sierra]

Have you ever gotten like nudes in the dms?

[Kyle]

No, I don't have it. So, like, people can send me pictures and stuff like that. I. I filter all that out.

[Sierra]

Do not send.

[Kyle]

That's not really my forte.

[Sierra]

No, not interested.

[Nick]

He got real serious. I'm like, got really serious.

[Kyle]

I'm a man of God, you know, try to.

[Nick]

Was there a brunette that kind of. You up a little bit and that's why you.

[Sierra]

No, it's a blonde that him up and that's why now he's on to brunettes.

[Nick]

Oh.

[Sierra]

Cuz he wants nothing that reminds him of the blondes.

[Nick]

But then when Sydney, she shows up, he's like, oh, I'm back in the.

[Kyle]

Then I got drunk and heard Sydney Sweeney was in the same town, so.

[Sierra]

Yeah. Yeah. Forgot all of about it.

[Kyle]

Yeah.

[Sierra]

I have a guilty pleasure and that is watching TikTok lives. And I don't like ever join them. Right. Like, I'll just watch them. So maybe that's like cheating because I'm not giving them like, I don't like tap in and like give them likes or whatever. I don't know. But I just like to watch them. And you used to come up on my TikTok live algorithm quite a lot.

[Kyle]

Yeah.

[Sierra]

And. And I. I think it was before you had released any music. Music like this was like. Or maybe you had really some. Nothing had. Nothing had popped yet. But like, I thought you were just this random guy who would like sing a little bit while like cooking.

[Kyle]

Yeah, I did that quite a bit.

[Sierra]

And then what was your three? Was three two, one your first? What was your. No, no. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Kyle]

Like last February.

[Sierra]

Yes, yes. Wine and whiskey. And I was like singing to it on the radio and I was like, I knew every word. I like loved the song. And then I don't know if I like saw a picture or what, but I'm like, is this the fucking tick?

[Angela Oakley]

That's that dude.

[Kyle]

What is he doing here? That's the idiot that sits in his, like, wait a minute in his kitchen.

[Sierra]

He actually can't. Like, most people, you know, will just like sing on Tick Tock to. But like, you have made. You're like famous. You're real. And it was like a crazy.

[Nick]

Natalie will show me the people she's watching on TikTok lives, and I never thought any of them would make it. She didn't show me you, but I gotta say included. She did not show me you're a handsome fellow, you know, but like, you know, you know, she. There's some interesting people on there.

[Sierra]

It was such a nice surprise to be like, oh, my God. No, one of my people made it. My people have made it. Yes. There you are.

[Kyle]

I know this guy.

[Sierra]

There you are. Is that kind of how your success started off TikTok?

[Kyle]

Yeah, kind of. So, I mean, I was writing songs in Nashville. Not, you know, still, but for like three or four years before dropping my first song. And, you know, we finally got to the point where we're like, hey, let's start teasing some of these things on TikTok, see what happens. And then why did whiskey happen? And then wind up missing you happen, and then the rest is history.

[Sierra]

It's honestly been like one after the other. I feel like you haven't really. It's been a dull moment.

[Kyle]

I hope not. I mean, I mean, hoping I'll get there. You know, I'm having too much fun.

[Sierra]

Yeah, of course. Of course. What is like your life looking like right now? Now?

[Kyle]

Crazy. I mean, I'm in a new city every day, sometimes even a new state every day. Playing shows for sold out crowds.

[Nick]

Crazy.

[Kyle]

Playing stage coach. That was sick. Just dropped my first album. That's. That's insane. Yeah. I mean, my life has changed more than I ever thought it could in the last year.

[Sierra]

It's been. Yeah.

[Nick]

Is it more like just absolutely surreal, like, pinch me or is there a little bit of like. Like, you know, I knew this day would come, you know, like.

[Kyle]

Yeah, it's definitely pinched me, you know, I feel like everything was happening so fast in the last, like, you know, year and couple months that I didn't really have a chance to like, sit down for the first six months and realize what was going on. I was just so go, go, go. But lately it's been pretty surreal. Like, I feel like I'm waking up every day and being like, is this really happening? You know?

[Nick]

How was playing for Jimmy Kimmel live?

[Kyle]

It was sick. Yeah, it was quick. Yeah, it was a lot of prep time for like a two and a half minute song. But I thought we sounded pretty decent, you know, it was fun.

[Nick]

Is it just like another check the box of cool things you. You've. What? What is maybe the coolest thing you've done where it was like you really couldn't believe? Like holy. I'm. I'm here.

[Kyle]

Oh gosh. There's been a couple, you know, I. Late night. You know, playing late night was definitely one of those bucket list items that I checked off last night. Night. I don't know. Playing the Opry, that was pretty cool. Stage coach Red rocks. You know. My first number one at the top of the year. That was. That was sick. Released my first album over the weekend. That was. That was pretty intense. Everything true, everything great is happening. I don't know all of it when.

[Sierra]

The album comes out. Comes out at midnight I would imagine, right?

[Kyle]

Yeah, it depends on where you're at. So like on the east coast it'll come out at midnight. So here it was like nine or ten.

[Sierra]

Did you. Where were you when the album came out?

[Kyle]

I was playing a show in Sacramento and we did a whole thing before the show cuz the. We were hitting stage at 9:15 and then the album drop was at 9 and so I had hopped up on stage, I was like, hey, this going to be a little different show tonight. Usually I don't come out until that first beat drops, but I, you know, I prayed over the crowd. We were opening a new venue and you know, so it was the first show of the venue and it was like opening night and then I was dropping my album that night. So I prayed over the venue, I prayed over the crowd, prayed over the album. You know, the guys up there with me, my whole team was up there and some of my family and my niece and my mom and you know, it was a special moment. So we counted down from 10 and then the album dropped and then I walked off. Then we rocked out on stage. It was fun.

[Sierra]

Fun. You're on tour right now with who you're.

[Kyle]

I'm doing a headline.

[Sierra]

You are?

[Kyle]

Yeah. We got our last weekend. This weekend in Texas.

[Sierra]

Damn.

[Kyle]

Yeah.

[Sierra]

That's crazy. As what was like that call like, like you're headlining your own tour.

[Kyle]

Pretty nuts. So I did my first. So we're on Waves on a Sunset part two essentially. And the part one was last fall and I didn't really know what to expect if I'm being honest, because I had, I had opened up for a couple people, you know, over the summer. And then, like, Cameron, Marlo, Luke Bryan, you know, a couple. Jordan Davis for one off, you know, a couple different people. And like, hey, I think it's time to headline. I was like, all right. So I didn't know what to expect. Then I went. I showed up to the shows and started playing, and it was nuts, dude. Like, the crowd is, like, progressively getting crazier and crazier. But even back then, it was. It was insane.

[Sierra]

What do you look at when you're on stage?

[Kyle]

The. Sometimes the back wall. I'm. If I'm trying to focus. Sometimes a cute girl up front.

[Sierra]

Oh, you're scouting.

[Kyle]

Have.

[Nick]

Have you ever. Have you ever met someone in the audience?

[Kyle]

No, not really.

[Nick]

No.

[Kyle]

We don't. We don't really do that.

[Sierra]

You don't, like, see someone and then tell, like, a manager, like, hey, the, like, blonde in, like, the front.

[Kyle]

That's great. No, I don't think I've ever done that. If I'm being honest.

[Nick]

I feel like you're missing out.

[Sierra]

Yeah, I feel like you're, like, missing out on, like, you're like rock star power of, like, being able to pull someone from.

[Kyle]

Oh, that's an abuse of power. I would never do that.

[Sierra]

That they would love it. It would make.

[Nick]

It says here, happy to talk and chat about all things dating. Do you like talking about dating?

[Kyle]

Not really. But.

[Nick]

He didn't write that.

[Kyle]

I didn't write the.

[Nick]

I sold your team out. Sorry, guys.

[Kyle]

Yeah, let's do it. Why not?

[Sierra]

What is. What is your love life like?

[Kyle]

And non existent. Non existent. I am so busy that I can't even fathom. I was just talking to my tour manager last night over dinner, and I was like, dude, I can. Because we were talking about, you know, I was asking him how his wife's doing because we don't really get to talk like that too often. We're just so busy. I was asking how his wife's doing, and then I was like, dude, I couldn't even fathom being on the road right now and doing everything that I'm doing with not a responsibility, but, like, sure, you know, a person that I have to take care of.

[Nick]

It is a responsibility.

[Kyle]

It is. Yeah. I couldn't do that. Screw that, if I'm being honest.

[Nick]

So maybe rephrase the question. Maybe it's like, how's your sex life?

[Sierra]

No banging.

[Kyle]

Non existent.

[Nick]

Jesus is watching. Jesus.

[Kyle]

That's right. Jesus is watching.

[Sierra]

Jesus is watching. Are. Are you, like, want. Wanting to date someone in the same sphere as you, or are you, like, Wanting a Normie? Are you wanting no one?

[Kyle]

Are you Normie? I guess I'd be open to both. I'd. I'd be kind of skeptical. There's. I don't know. I've been in a couple relationships where they're in it for, like, the wrong reason, so now it'd be even. Even, like, more tough, you know, kind of weeding out, like, who's good and who's bad.

[Nick]

How'd you get a sense of that? That you felt like. That it wasn't like you. That they were, like, dating, but more like the idea.

[Kyle]

Yeah, the idea of you taking opportunities.

[Nick]

Okay.

[Kyle]

More often than they should. You know, like being. Being opportunistic. You know, obviously, I go, do your own thing. Have, you know, pop off queen. You know, do your thing. But. But it's just a vibe that I.

[Sierra]

Like, gave you a feeling.

[Kyle]

It did. And then, you know, I. I lean super heavy on the people around me and, you know, we're always talking and, you know, my family, my friends, and they. They wean out the bad ones before I can, you know, because when I love, I love hard, and that's.

[Sierra]

Do you fall easy?

[Kyle]

Yeah, I guess sometimes.

[Nick]

Men usually do.

[Kyle]

Yeah. Well, you didn't.

[Sierra]

Me.

[Kyle]

Oh, all right.

[Sierra]

You want to get into it.

[Nick]

That's not true.

[Kyle]

I should leave.

[Sierra]

No, it's okay. It's fine. We do this all the time.

[Nick]

You know what? You're. We. We asked Riley Green this question, and he. His. His brain exploded. What's your love languages?

[Kyle]

What?

[Sierra]

Yeah, that was Riley. Riley Green's response was like the Chinese dragon.

[Nick]

You. You don't know what love language is?

[Kyle]

Scorpio.

[Sierra]

Scorpio. Yeah. He was like, I think I'm a rat.

[Tucker Wetmore]

That or he said English. What's your love language?

[Sierra]

English.

[Nick]

You don't know?

[Kyle]

Sometimes French.

[Nick]

It sounds. It sounds kind of silly. It sounds like a horoscope made up, but it's like. It's something. Honestly, you should. You should learn about yourself. It's like the idea. Well, one, it's. How do you receive love? Like, so what. What can someone, your girlfriend do for you that makes you go, ah, they like me. I. This person cares about me as opposed to like. And then, like, how do you show love? Like, you know, how do you do that? So there's five categories.

[Kyle]

Okay. What are they?

[Nick]

There's acts of service. So, like, you like, you know, you like doing things for your partner. You.

[Kyle]

That's how I love others.

[Nick]

Yeah.

[Kyle]

I'm a huge act. Like, if I feel like I'M taking.

[Nick]

Yeah.

[Kyle]

I felt if I feel like I'm taking care of you and your. Well being.

[Nick]

There you go.

[Kyle]

I. I feel pretty happy.

[Nick]

Yeah.

[Kyle]

In the relationship like that.

[Nick]

Then there's. Then there's physical touch. You want to be, you know, touched.

[Kyle]

Depends on the time of day.

[Nick]

Yeah. I'm saying.

[Sierra]

Yeah.

[Nick]

They can get too close. Right.

[Kyle]

Kind of mood. Did I. Yeah.

[Nick]

It's like, I like to be touched, but it's smothered.

[Sierra]

You're not looking for someone to like, want to be in your back pocket or be like crawl into your skin with you.

[Kyle]

Not necessarily. No.

[Nick]

Okay.

[Sierra]

You're looking for like, maybe when it's the right day, right time.

[Kyle]

Yeah.

[Sierra]

The infection.

[Nick]

That seems normal.

[Kyle]

Like if it's just us. Oh, yeah. Let's.

[Nick]

And then.

[Sierra]

Yeah.

[Nick]

Then we got. We got words of affirmation. So like, I love you, you know.

[Tucker Wetmore]

Or you're doing great.

[Nick]

You look handsome today.

[Kyle]

You know, I think that's. That's how I like to be loved.

[Nick]

Yeah. Okay. Like, I'm really proud of you. You're like, wow, you're.

[Kyle]

Yeah, that's.

[Nick]

Best musician ever. Like, I'm really cool. That's what I was. I'm not. But like, you know, imagine your partner thinking that and making you believe that.

[Kyle]

You know, I think, I think that's what I enjoy.

[Nick]

And then quality time, I think is, oh, get gifts. And quality time.

[Sierra]

And quality time.

[Nick]

So like, you like just actually hanging.

[Sierra]

Out with each other.

[Nick]

With each other. I like that.

[Kyle]

I don't like receiving gifts. I'd rather give gifts.

[Nick]

See, we're similar. We're similar. Acts of service. Hate gifts. Gifts.

[Tucker Wetmore]

But he likes to give them.

[Nick]

No, you don't.

[Tucker Wetmore]

That's what he just said.

[Kyle]

You know, he just said, I don't.

[Sierra]

Nick hates the gift.

[Nick]

Gifts in general. Anxiety. All it is, is a problem.

[Kyle]

Might be a color book page that I worked on at breakfast, but. Yeah, exactly.

[Nick]

A gift is something I survive through.

[Kyle]

Yeah.

[Sierra]

It's awful.

[Tucker Wetmore]

Gotta change that perspective.

[Kyle]

He hates to see birthdays coming.

[Sierra]

Yeah. Literally. We just had our one year wedding.

[Kyle]

Anniversary and he was like, congratulations, that's awesome.

[Sierra]

He was like, what should we do? Do you want to do like a joint gift and maybe like you could figure it all out and then we could just get the same thing for each other. I was like, sure.

[Kyle]

We should get a side by side. We got matching rings.

[Nick]

We got matching rings.

[Sierra]

We got matching.

[Kyle]

That's great.

[Sierra]

We did.

[Angela Oakley]

We did.

[Nick]

Yeah. That's really how you. That's how you get out of it.

[Kyle]

That's awesome.

[Nick]

Yeah. Something sentimental.

[Kyle]

Are you wearing it?

[Nick]

Yeah. Right here? Yeah.

[Sierra]

Yeah.

[Nick]

I have to get it resized. Yeah.

[Sierra]

Got a little too big, but.

[Nick]

Yeah, you know, what are you gonna do? So you taught yourself how to play the guitar at 11?

[Sierra]

Piano.

[Kyle]

Piano and guitar around the same time, but.

[Nick]

Because when you got up there and you were playing piano on. On Saturday, I was like, very, very envious of you. I'm always very envious of people who could do things that I can't do. And I took piano lessons as a kid, and then they said, quit.

[Kyle]

Yeah.

[Nick]

And you got up there, you should.

[Sierra]

Just say, was that something your. Your parents were like, you're. I'm putting you in piano. You're gonna learn. Or you were like, I want to do this?

[Kyle]

Yeah. I pretty much sat down a piano one day and then didn't get up for years.

[Nick]

Really?

[Kyle]

And I would come home from practice or from school and throw my backpack in the corner, and I'd sit down and clank on the keys until like, 10:00 at night, every single day until I was like, probably 15.

[Sierra]

What was the first song you learned?

[Kyle]

Oh, gosh.

[Nick]

I used to play Chopsticks a lot, and my mom would tell me to stop.

[Kyle]

I think it might have been Chopsticks.

[Nick]

That's all I never got Universal.

[Sierra]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. What was. Remind me of the song you played at Stagecoach on the piano.

[Kyle]

Oh, there's a couple. Oh, yeah.

[Sierra]

What was that? Oh, yeah, yeah. Ring of Fire.

[Angela Oakley]

Goodness.

[Nick]

There you go.

[Kyle]

All right. I did that one. And then we did. Did I do Bohemian Rap City? No, but I do in the. The other shows, I just didn't have enough time. And then we did some Hank Williams Jr. Then we did Keep your hands to yourself.

[Sierra]

Yeah. What's been, like, your, like, growing up, who's been kind of the country artist that you look towards?

[Kyle]

Oh, gosh, there's a couple. I mean. Okay. So I kind of grew up a mutt to music, if I'm being honest. You know, I grew up listening to reggae. I come from, like, a Samoan family. On my dad's side, my classic rock, heavy, heavy metal, and then, like, country radio. So, yeah, I. I love, like, Jerry Lee Lewis, Elton John, Billy Joel, Queen Holland Oates, Jim Crochet, the Eagles, Fleetwood Mac, you know, that's. That's my stuff right there.

[Sierra]

Did you see any of Creed or, like, did you stick around, like, the rest of the.

[Kyle]

I missed it.

[Sierra]

You did.

[Kyle]

I missed it. I was. I was very tired at that point, and I was Like, I can't go back to the fairgrounds, but Creed is one of my all time favorites.

[Nick]

Do you. I mean, you know, you obviously play a lot of covers and young artists obviously did a lot. Is it really cool to, like, you're up there and you start playing your music and you see, you know, the audience, like, you know, just get as excited about your music as the covers. Is that. Is that. Do you remember the first time you felt that moment?

[Kyle]

Yeah, dude. It was actually during which. That's the best feeling in the world, man. It was during CMA Fest, I think, and I was fixing to play the hard rock stage and, you know, it was my first CMA Fest last year. I think it was like last July or something. And I wasn't really knowing what to expect. You know, I had wine, a whiskey out. I think I just dropped. Wind up missing you like a month or two before that. And I hadn't really played a lot of live shows that are like, anyone can come kind of thing. And I walked on stage and there was a sea of people in Broadway. There was like 8, 500 people. They're closed down Broadway. They had to send out like an Amber alert on the CMA app saying, hey, Broadway is shut down for Tucker Wetmore set. Yada yada. It was nuts.

[Nick]

Cool.

[Kyle]

Yeah. I wish I had a picture of it.

[Sierra]

Screenshot of that. It.

[Kyle]

It was. It was nuts.

[Sierra]

Damn. That's crazy.

[Kyle]

But everybody was singing every word.

[Nick]

Wow.

[Sierra]

Was that the first time you realized, like, holy, I've made like a viral, like I'm. I've done it. Like I've.

[Kyle]

My.

[Sierra]

Everyone knows my songs.

[Kyle]

It was a good indicator of what's to come, I'd say, you know, it was definitely the first time where I was like, damn, I might have a shot. You know, I might. I might be able to do this.

[Sierra]

That must have been a cool feeling.

[Kyle]

Best feeling of my life. It was. It was sick. And I get it, you know, Know almost every night on stage still. It's cool.

[Sierra]

What's been your favorite song you've released this far?

[Kyle]

I don't know. That's a tough one. So I just dropped the album with 19 songs and I got a couple favorites like Bad Luck Looks Good on Me. That's the one I sang on Camel last night. It's probably one of my favorites. Drink Alone's a good one.

[Sierra]

Were you able to choose a song that you sing on Kibble? Yeah. Or did that you were.

[Kyle]

They tried to. They tried to kind of lean me another way, but I Was like, no, I want to do this. You know, it's my first late night. I. I kind of want to sing, so something that. Not that I enjoy singing more than others, but.

[Nick]

Sure.

[Kyle]

Something that feels good for late night.

[Tucker Wetmore]

How was your first late night experience?

[Kyle]

It was cool. Yeah, it was really cool. Yeah. Like I was saying earlier, it was quick. There's a lot of prep time for a very short amount of.

[Nick]

Does it feel weird? Like showing up in the afternoon, you know, and thinking. That was for me, when the first time I did that. Because you think you're watching it late. It's late night, like night time, and you're like, yeah, you're showing back at 3:00.

[Kyle]

Yeah, it was weird.

[Nick]

Yeah.

[Sierra]

On your fun facts, it says, what are you watching? And it says, your move. You're more of a movie guy guy. And then it says, anyone but you in parentheses. Which is it really?

[Kyle]

Sydney.

[Sierra]

Sweet. Big fan.

[Kyle]

Who did that?

[Sierra]

Love, Sydney.

[Kyle]

That's hilarious.

[Sierra]

What'd you think of that movie? Good.

[Nick]

Barely watching it.

[Kyle]

Yeah, I love movies. I'm a big Marvel guy, from being honest.

[Sierra]

Marvel?

[Kyle]

Yeah.

[Nick]

Okay.

[Tucker Wetmore]

Are you gonna see Thunder? Thunderbolt.

[Nick]

Thunderbolt.

[Sierra]

Yeah.

[Nick]

Nice. It was rated.

[Kyle]

Well, it comes out soon, don't it?

[Nick]

Yeah. Very high rated.

[Sierra]

This is a new character in Marvel.

[Nick]

It's a comic book. Nothing's new. Yeah, because, like, it's all based off old comics.

[Sierra]

They're bringing people from, like, some of the TV shows, some, like the other people from movies who aren't dead, you know, putting them in a new movie.

[Nick]

Yeah.

[Sierra]

The cinematic universe.

[Kyle]

Yeah. It's gonna be sick.

[Sierra]

It's so exciting. If you were to. If there were. Were to be, like, a biopic about you, who do you. Who would you want to play you?

[Kyle]

A biopic? Like, in a movie?

[Sierra]

Yeah. Like, you know, we just had Timothy Chalamet do Bob Dylan.

[Kyle]

Yeah.

[Sierra]

Who would you.

[Kyle]

Oh, gosh, I don't know. In a reasonable sense or like a. I'm a huge Ryan Reynolds fan.

[Nick]

Okay.

[Kyle]

I think Ryan Reynolds would be sick.

[Nick]

Okay.

[Kyle]

I. I think I would want to do it. Honestly, I think. I think I would. I would want to, you know.

[Sierra]

You'd crush your own life, you think?

[Kyle]

I mean, I would hope so.

[Sierra]

I know.

[Nick]

Can Ryan sing? I don't know.

[Sierra]

Good question. Did anyone think Timothy Chalamet could sing?

[Kyle]

I didn't know.

[Sierra]

I didn't.

[Nick]

And that movie was sick.

[Kyle]

I watched it on plenty of time.

[Nick]

So did I. Remy Malik didn't have to sing, and he still won an Oscar, so.

[Sierra]

For who?

[Nick]

Who Playing Queenie sang. I don't think he's. I think he lip synced a lot of that. Did he?

[Sierra]

I'm pretty sure she's a student.

[Nick]

He played Freddie Mercury, like. Let's find. Let's find out. Google it. Did he. Did he sing? I'm pretty sure he.

[Sierra]

Didn't Rami Malik sing in Bohemian Rhapsody?

[Nick]

No.

[Sierra]

Oh, damn.

[Kyle]

What?

[Sierra]

Take away that Oscar. That's so stupid.

[Nick]

Just because he wore teeth.

[Sierra]

That's. That's it.

[Nick]

Well, you can argue. I mean, like, you know, that's. He really was acting.

[Kyle]

Yeah. That was a great movie. Movie nonetheless. Great movie.

[Nick]

Yeah. That scene, you know, the ending. Awesome.

[Kyle]

Yeah.

[Nick]

Yeah. If you had superpower, what would that superpower be nowadays?

[Kyle]

I wish I could teleport because I'm traveling.

[Nick]

It's always mine.

[Sierra]

You're traveling so much. Yeah, I just get there.

[Kyle]

Yeah. And I like to. I like the idea of me snap my fingers. I'm in Mexico too.

[Sierra]

Yes, of course. On a beach.

[Kyle]

That's right.

[Sierra]

With a beer.

[Kyle]

That's right. Margarita.

[Nick]

With a margarita, you could be anywhere were. But here. We should get the out of here.

[Sierra]

I'm out.

[Kyle]

No, absolutely.

[Sierra]

That's nuts. What has been your. Your family's reaction to all your success? I mean, I'm sure they're. They're so happy for you, but, like, what has been, you know, your. Your mom, your dad's reaction to all this?

[Kyle]

My family's ecstatic. My mom's like my biggest supporter, my biggest fan, and I mean, in more ways than. And giving birth to me. She's, you know, probably one of the main reasons why I'm. I'm here and doing this. She was. She was the one that pushed me to kind of do music after football. Didn't work out in college and stuff like that.

[Nick]

Did you play football in college?

[Kyle]

I did. Hell yeah.

[Nick]

Would you really?

[Kyle]

What position? I was a receiver.

[Nick]

Okay.

[Kyle]

Back in the day.

[Nick]

What's your 40?

[Kyle]

Oh, it was like a. Oh, gosh. Like back. Back in the day. It was probably like 4, 4, 7.

[Nick]

Okay.

[Kyle]

Yeah.

[Nick]

Pretty quick.

[Kyle]

Not bad.

[Nick]

Yeah.

[Kyle]

But yeah, I mean, they're. They're excited.

[Sierra]

Yeah.

[Kyle]

Yeah. My mom's great. You know, my. My sister's a great. I grew up four sisters and they're always.

[Sierra]

Where do you fall in love in this?

[Kyle]

I got three older and then one younger.

[Nick]

Okay.

[Kyle]

Yeah.

[Sierra]

They are loving all little brother's attention that he's getting right now.

[Kyle]

Yeah, they don't mind it.

[Sierra]

My brother, he's not that great, actually. He really can't sing. It's all attention.

[Nick]

But didn't Wes. Wes Wilson play for months? Montana.

[Kyle]

I played at Montana Tech. Yeah. My grades were ass, so I couldn't really go.

[Nick]

Even Montana State.

[Kyle]

Okay, gotcha.

[Sierra]

What a random cat. Are you a fan? Are you a Vols fan?

[Kyle]

I'm an Oregon fan. So I grew up in the Pacific Northwest, so I'm a. I'm an organ duck.

[Nick]

Where'd you get that slim twang?

[Kyle]

I don't know. I'm just talk slow, I guess. I'm stupid. That's about it.

[Sierra]

I told you my grades weren't good.

[Kyle]

My grades were not good.

[Sierra]

That's what they told me. They told me I was too redneck. I needed to learn how to change my accent or I would. People would think I was just stupid.

[Nick]

It's got to be great to like, feel like, you know, struggle in school, you know, I mean, if you're. I'm assuming there's some level of being serious that your grades weren't good or whatever, but like to. To be able to do what you're doing now. And I'm sure there are probably teachers back in the day have been like, if you're gonna not do, you know.

[Kyle]

You'Re not gonna 100, you know, lecture right now too. Her name is. I'm just kidding.

[Nick]

But you. Did you have, like, teachers doubting you?

[Kyle]

There's a couple for sure. Most. Most of my. Most of my teachers were great, though. And, you know. You know, it's not that I sucked at school. I just didn't like homework, you know, that was. That was my thing. I just. I'd rather sit there and play the piano instead of doing my homework. And I would. I would go and ace all the tests.

[Nick]

Oh, so then you were smart?

[Kyle]

No, I wasn't smart.

[Nick]

But like, that sounds like a smart person.

[Kyle]

All my tests, I. I sucked at school. You know, I sucked at homework.

[Nick]

But I saw. I also sucked at homework. This is. Seems stupid. Yeah.

[Sierra]

You're on tour right now. Where can people buy tickets? Where can they come and see you? Where are you playing next?

[Kyle]

Yeah, I guess my website. I don't. That's above my pay grade. I'm being honest.

[Sierra]

He's like, I'm not charging none of that.

[Kyle]

Yeah, that's it, I think.

[Sierra]

Okay. Perfect.

[Nick]

Tucker wetmore.com.

[Sierra]

Is that it?

[Kyle]

Yeah, I think so. Yeah.

[Nick]

We can spell it for you guys.

[Tucker Wetmore]

It's like you'll be in Texas through May 2nd through the 7th.

[Kyle]

That's good.

[Sierra]

Everyone in the 21st.

[Kyle]

Yeah. For the Ryman yes.

[Sierra]

That's huge.

[Kyle]

Playing the rhyming.

[Sierra]

That's huge. That's a really big deal.

[Kyle]

That's crazy.

[Nick]

And for the ladies out there, if they are interested in reaching out and.

[Sierra]

Maybe they're, like, laid back, right? Maybe they don't do, like 100 of the time. Maybe they also, like, remote. Maybe they, like, can travel with you to shows. How fun could that be?

[Nick]

Like, what is. What is a message that would. Would really. Would ring true to your heart. That would. That would. You'd notice what? Yeah, like a message, you know, what could they write you?

[Kyle]

Oh, that, that girl that would, like.

[Sierra]

Catch your attention, that would make you respond.

[Nick]

I don't know.

[Kyle]

Probably just a simple hi. I'm a simple guy. Just a hi. Just a hey, what's up?

[Nick]

Okay.

[Kyle]

How are you? You see what happens? I guess. I don't know.

[Sierra]

Well, this has been fun.

[Kyle]

Talking great. Thank you.

[Nick]

Wishing nothing but the best, man. It's. It's really fun to see people, like, rise. Like, you've risen, man. And it's. You obviously are very talented and. And it seems like you have nowhere to go but up. So it's excited to watch your journey go.

[Kyle]

Well. Thank you, guys. I appreciate it.

[Nick]

All right, man. Take care. All right, well, thank you guys for listening. Appreciate our guest Angela Oakley and Tucker Wetmore for joining us. We will see you tomorrow. Tomorrow for an explosive episode of Going Deeper with Lexi Wood. Do not miss that. And Thursday is also going to be an incredible episode of Reality Recap. So join us then. We'll see you then. Bye for now. The Valfouse is brought to you by Progressive Insurance. Do you ever find yourself playing a budgeting game? Well, with the name your price tool from Progr Progressive, you can find options that fit your budget and potentially lower your bills. Try that. Progressive.com progressive casualty insurance company and affiliates. Prices and coverage match limited by state law. Not available in all states.

[Kyle]

Ugh.

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