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E967 – Going Deeper with Chris Seeley
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Welcome back to The Viall Files: Going Deeper edition. In 3…2…1… Chris Seeley is here fresh from the villa and we could not be more excited! We get into everything from how he got on Love Island USA and what initially drew him to Huda to...
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Justin
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Chris
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Justin
Well, Chris, welcome.
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Chris
Thank you.
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Justin
I appreciate it. I'm very excited to be with you. Very excited to get to know you. We. Yeah, we were just kind of talking before we got started just about this show in general. And, you know, it's like we're in its seventh season.
- [01:11]
Chris
Yeah.
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Justin
But it's. It's its second. I don't know, it's been on. I don't know how long it's been on Peacock, but it's really almost been like two seasons where the show has been like the it show, the number one show on reality television.
- [01:22]
Chris
Yeah.
- [01:22]
Justin
And then quickly, in two seasons, it's. It's become this behemoth and this kind of very toxic fan base. And it's just like, even shows like ours who are covering it, I don't even know what it's like for y' all to be a part of this. And the discourse that we see online, even for us, people who cover it, we're just like, gee, man, this is like, oh, it's exhausting.
- [01:44]
Chris
Yeah.
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Justin
First of all, like, how are you doing? You know, like, how is it? How are you? How's your mental health? How are your emotions? I'm sure a bunch of highs and lows. Like, how you feeling today?
- [01:53]
Chris
Honestly, man, I'm. I'm doing really well. You know, come out the villa. I was a little curious about what could happen or what life was going to be like. You know, this is all new for me. I play basketball.
- [02:04]
Justin
Sure.
- [02:05]
Chris
So, like, coming back and, like, to this type of life is something that I have to get adjusted to because this is my type of life when I'm overseas, like, when I, like, for example, when I was in Indonesia, I was kind of like that famous person for them. You know what I Mean, so like, coming back to home and being that famous person here is weird because this is usually like my space where I'm like at peace. I can be in my family, like, I can move how I want, do this, do that, get away from all that stuff. So, like, coming back to this is kind of crazy.
- [02:30]
Justin
That's kind of interesting for you because, like, a lot of people who go on these shows, they go from complete obscurity, just like your average, average person, average good looking person in whatever town. But you've had obviously success in athletics and with that you've gotten notoriety. And do you feel like that's helped prepare you for. Even though it's different? Do you think that's helped prepare you for what you're about to embark and just having that kind of emotional maturity to know, like, what you should pay attention to and more importantly, what you shouldn't pay attention to?
- [03:02]
Chris
Yeah, I feel like it's helped a lot for sure. But there are a lot of things that I need to learn, you know, not just the other islanders, but, you know, other people that I've connected with have tried to like, help me with along the way. Just as far as, like, how I should be moving now, how I should be talking not just about myself, but about others too. So, yeah, I mean, it's for sure taking some time to get adjusted to. It's only been, what, a few days so far? But I think with the, with the help that I have, I think I'll be. I'll be okay.
- [03:26]
Huda
So what initially made you go on Love Island?
- [03:29]
Chris
Honestly, it wasn't even a thought for me about going on Love Island. They had reached out to me as I was leaving Indonesia. Once I made the decision to come back home, I got the DM from a casting director saying, hey, would you be interested on going on Love Island? I said, honestly, no, because that's not me. But I said, why not? I feel like that's a once in a lifetime opportunity and I just feel like I wanted to take some time away from basketball to see what else I can get into and what else I'm good at. I know reality TV is not like a talent, but like, you know, so I just, I dove in. I was like, why not?
- [04:02]
Justin
You know, in some ways, actually, I mean, it's, it's especially what you guys go through, right? Like, I don't think people fully realize the pressure cooker of a social experiment you guys are thrusted into.
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Chris
Right?
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Justin
I mean, ultimately what a Love island is. It's a game mast is this journey to find love.
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Chris
Right.
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Justin
That puts its stars and casts in this compromising environment where you guys, all of you are in. In this constant fight or flight.
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Chris
Yeah.
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Justin
We all want. You all seem open to love, but everyone who goes in that show knows it's a TV show. They're aware of the opportunities that come with it, as they should. Right. There's pressure there. There's pressures of what their family might think or their peers.
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Chris
Yeah.
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Justin
And then it's kind of like almost like a fight for survival. You know, who do I make friends with? Alliances all kind of masked under, like, the romance of love. And it's just kind of this fascinating thing, which I actually would argue requires a lot of skill. I mean, think about, like, Traitors is another very popular, popular show on Peacock. Maybe we'll see you on it in future seasons.
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Chris
Never know.
- [05:05]
Justin
But, like, that is, like, you know, that that show is very straightforward. We're. This is a game.
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Chris
Right.
- [05:09]
Justin
You know, we're just a game. And we're. We're gonna. We're gonna not take it seriously. And even then, fans get into it. But this is all, like. No, this is. This is all about love. This is all about this genuine thing. And you guys have to, like, combat within that environment and face the pressures of people projecting their own lives and relationships and struggles onto you.
- [05:28]
Chris
Right.
- [05:29]
Justin
You either remind them of someone you dated that scre, or you remind them of yourself. Yeah. And it's. It's. It's a really fascinating thing. I would. So I would argue. I think it does require a lot of skill, and I don't think it's a coincidence people like you shined in the atmosphere that you were in.
- [05:44]
Chris
Yeah. I mean, honestly, it's really tough, especially on the emotional side. Like you said, it's a really big, like, fight or flight all the time. Like, we're. We're barely getting sleep. I think, like, every night, maybe we got max, like, three or four hours of sleep. Really? So, like, you know, having to shoot all night and then only getting that amount of sleep and then waking up doing it over again, like, it's kind of like, damn, like, I'm irritated that I didn't get no sleep. Now I got to go talk about my emotions and how I'm feeling. It's like, you may not want to at that time or may not want to with that person at that time. So it's like having to get your mentality right in order to do that, you for sure are going to cause some emotions to be. To Be heightened for sure.
- [06:22]
Huda
So do you feel like also. And I can only imagine, like, not knowing what time of day it is or what day of the week it is can be such, like a mental fucking. Do you felt like it was or do you feel like you honestly didn't really even think about it?
- [06:33]
Chris
Honestly, at first I didn't really think about it, but we kind of caught on a little bit just because of the sun. Because when we go to sleep, the sun was kind of rising, and then when we wake up, the sun would be like, in a specific spot. And then we kind of like tell, like, by the time the sun get like over the fire pit, it's like midday or something like that. You know what I mean? Yeah.
- [06:51]
Huda
Yeah.
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Justin
That's crazy, though.
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Chris
Shout out to Pepe figured that out. Like, he was very intellectual with that. He was like, I wonder what time it is. He was like, okay, I see the sun over here, but when they get right here, I think, yeah, it's probably like midday. It's like three, four o'. Clock.
- [07:06]
Justin
I'm like, okay, but think about that, right? Like, your emotional energy is going into stuff like that, you know, in this type of environment where in normal life, in reality, we talk about this on the show all the time about, like, our emotional energy. It's not this limitless thing that we all take for granted. And so when you guys are in this world, not having access to your support system, not even knowing what time of day it is or what day of the week it is, and then you start thinking about that and you feel disconnected from reality.
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Chris
Yeah.
- [07:34]
Justin
Just something to say to, like, all of you guys deserve a ton of grace and credit for, like, what you guys go through. I think so many times we watch these shows and we're just like, it's fun to be snarky and it's fun to be like, oh, shit, you know, like. Yeah, because we remind ourselves of our foolishness in life.
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Chris
Right.
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Justin
We are all entertained by your guys's willingness to bear it all and be vulnerable in these environments.
- [07:56]
Chris
So, yeah, I think, you know, it's very tough. Especially, like, I know you guys probably see, like, all the fun that we're having and stuff like that, but there's a lot of things that you guys don't see that cause us to be, like, really emotional. Like missing our family and stuff like that. Like, that's why on Family Day, like, we were all really so emotional. Because, like, that whole journey, like, even before going in the villa, like, being in that hotel for however long it was. For me, it was like three weeks, just like that time with the no contact, no outside access, no nothing like that. And then additional two, three weeks in the villa, like, it played a huge toll on the mental, especially on the emotional side for me. That's why when y' all saw my mom, like, walk in, I was. I couldn't help but, like, bawl my eyes out.
- [08:35]
Justin
I love a good homecoming, but I could. I truly could only imagine what it's like. You're just so disconnected, I think, from, you know, you make friends with producers because in there, you know, some. I've made some really close friends with him, but you're just like, you aren't doing a job. And, like, I am like. But you want to confide in people, right? But in that type of environment, is it. Is it hard to know everyone's true intentions or what you.
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Chris
It.
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Justin
If who you can trust? Because, again, like, there is this huge opportunity that you guys are all presented with. Whether it's the cash prize at the end, forget about that. But, like, you guys are all aware of just how popular this show is and the opportunities that come with being a notable character on this show. And that's just immense pressure. I always describe it as like, it's a lottery ticket with incredible odds. Like, being casted on one of these shows isn't a sure thing. You know, there's a lot of people who go on. We don't remember. They just. They don't make a mark, whatever. Yeah, they don't get the opportunity some of their peers have, but, like, so many do. And it's life changing. Yeah, it is. And that's a ton of pressure.
- [09:33]
Chris
Yeah, it is. And I think to. To get to your point about, you know, people's attentions, it's tough, honestly, because you. You can have, like, a deep conversation with somebody, like, man or female, and you can see, like, okay, you can sense some type of energy that they're presenting, but at the end of the day, like, they could go over here and tell somebody something else, you know what I mean? And act totally different. So, I mean, I will say, like, there was a few people where you kind of sense that and kind of. And at the end of the day, like you said, like, it's a game, so they kind of have to put on a certain Persona at certain times. So, yeah, it's to tell if people's intentions are really true or not. But I feel like spending that much time together and, like, in the end game, like, you kind of are able to Tell, like, constant patterns and stuff like that to see if that's really who they are or not.
- [10:14]
Justin
Who are people that you felt you could really get to know and connected with, and you felt like, you know, they were presenting their authentic selves.
- [10:22]
Chris
I'll say it till to the end, like, that's my boy. You know what I mean? I don't know if you guys saw it on the tv. I don't know what they put on tv. But, like, anytime that I was, like, frustrated or needed, like, some good advice, like, I went to Brian because of his perspective on things. Like, he. He always kept it real with me. Like, when. If he told me, hey, I think you're tripping, bro. Like, you know, fix the way you're thinking. Like. Or you'd be like, no, you're not tripping. Like, I felt you're valid in this point. He would always keep it real. As, if I went to, like, a few of the other islanders, they would already have, like, their perception of me already coming in as a casa boy and as a someone that's fucking shit up or however you want to put it. So it's hard to, like, go to them for advice. Even though they may have been able to help me a little bit more because they've been there longer. I feel like they just didn't understand me because in their eyes, it's like, oh, he's just here trying to take my girl, or whatever it is. You know what I mean? So. Yes.
- [11:12]
Huda
Did you get a chance to get closer with any of the other casa guys, or were you kind of more focused on. You were.
- [11:18]
Chris
Yeah, I mean, you know, we spent a lot of time together, especially in the beginning, before going to the villa. But I would say pretty much everybody as far as the Casa boys, Mostly Brian and Eland, though, because I spent the most time with them, especially Casa and the villa. So I'll say mostly them. But me and Zach have a great. Zach C. Have a great relationship. JD he's like my little brother in a way. He comes to me for. About advice, for anything. And then Zack K, you know, he's a goofball in himself.
- [11:49]
Huda
So what were you doing in that hotel room for three weeks with no journaling?
- [11:55]
Chris
I wasn't, like, a big journaler, but I had so much on my mind, and I couldn't talk to anybody. And usually, like, my mom is my outlet. I talk to her, like, three, four times a day about random shit, you know what I mean? So not having that, I would just be writing things in the Journal every day. Like I went through like two notebooks worth of journaling and then meditating, working out, going on walks, and a lot of Netflix watching.
- [12:15]
Justin
So yeah, did you get to watch the show before you went on?
- [12:19]
Chris
They would bring us the iPad and like show us like little episodes here and there. We didn't necessarily see everything, but you know, we saw some stuff we needed to know or see. So.
- [12:28]
Huda
Okay, we've watched you be very like, you're very good at communicating. You seem to have a very good head on your shoulders. You seem very respectful. Where did all of that come from?
- [12:39]
Chris
Being raised by a woman? My dad wasn't around, you know, growing up and I think my seven sisters or I have a younger sister, but my six older sisters and my mom played that, that role because they, they understood like, you know, he doesn't have that male figure. So we're gonna make sure we teach him everything to he succeeds in life and like he's comfortable in all situations. His, he's emotionally stable, mature, and you know, just how to act, especially around women. So, you know, I appreciate them for real. I'm gonna say that to the day I die. Like, those is, those are my ride or dies for sure.
- [13:12]
Justin
That's incredible. How old are you again?
- [13:14]
Chris
27.
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Justin
27?
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Chris
Yeah.
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Justin
In addition to that, like, did you know you also seem like someone who, you know, like when I started dating at 19, I don't know how it was for you, but like I always talk about love being like this powerful thing, right? Like emotionally it's powerful and like anything else, like I always love a good analogy, but like the first day you learn how to drive, you wouldn't get in the back of a Ferrari, a stick shift and be like, hey, go nuts. But that's almost like what love and dating is.
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Chris
Literally.
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Justin
You have this like powerful thing that we try to like that, that will us up emotionally and we just go for it, you know, and then we make a ton of mistakes along the way and we get in fights with our partners and we often feel like victimized, but then we have to like remove ourselves from a situation and be like, wait, why? Yeah, maybe I was part of the problem, you know, and like we have these toxic relationships, but like, what have you. What were some of the past relationships? And I'm not, we're not, we don't have to get into specifics about the people you dated or anything like that. But what are some things that you learned about yourself in past relationships that brought you to this 27 year old version of Chris, that, like, in addition to what you learned from this incredible household it sounds like you had, and the women that raised you, what did you learn about yourself through. Through dating and the trials and errors that comes with it?
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Chris
Honestly, I've learned that I could be an avoidant. I hate, like, conflict and, like, arguing. I'm very big on. Like, no, I'm not gonna argue with you. I'm not going back and forth, because that just causes more and more conflict. And I don't like going in circles. And I feel like arguments are usually things that go in circles. Like, if we can't have, like, a regular conversation, like, how we're having right now and address the issue at hand and forgive each other, hear each other's perspectives, and then move on from it, I feel like if we're not doing that, then that's not something that I can entertain, and that's just something that I grew up to, how I was raised. You know, me and my mom, it was just me and her, and we would never be going back and forth. She would be like, son, like, I didn't like how you did this. I need you to be better at this. And, you know, I was very receptive to that. And, you know, I'm very big on, like, it's about how you address things and how things are presented, and that's how it's gonna be perceived. Because, like, for example, if I came to you, be like, I don't fuck with you. Like, I don't like how you did that. Like, you can be like, damn, like, are you coming for me? Like, you're trying to attack me. But if I get like, hey, bro, like, when you did this, that kind of bothered me. Like, could you do this instead? Like, that type of things. I'm really big on that. But, yeah, I. I hate feeling like, when somebody does me wrong, I hate making them feel like they did something wrong, because then that. That hurts my feelings, if that makes sense. So I feel like I've learned to. Especially this experience. Like, I've learned that I have to talk about my emotions, and when something bothers me, I have to address it right then instead of, like, avoiding it and talking about it two days later or something like that. So that's, like, a big thing that I've learned myself.
- [15:51]
Huda
You mean, like, big props to your mom, raising seven children on her own?
- [15:56]
Chris
Well, it was my dad's children, but she. She just has me and my older sister, just to make that clear for everybody. Just, she's not popping out babies or anything like that. So. But. But yeah, big props to her though, for sure. So.
- [16:09]
Huda
So you have six older sisters and then one younger sister, and it's you and your younger sister who are your moms?
- [16:14]
Chris
No, so me and my oldest sister are my moms and then everybody else from my dad.
- [16:17]
Huda
Gotcha. Okay. And so you're close with everyone?
- [16:20]
Chris
Everyone. And I'm kind of like that. Even though I'm the youngest boy. Second youngest of all. I'm like that person that brings everybody together, like all my games. Like everybody comes out and supports or something like that, or like with this experience, like everybody's having watch parties and bringing them together. So yeah, I'm always like that person that. The glue guy, if that makes sense, you know. So, yeah, has.
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Huda
And you don't have to answer this question at all, but has being in the limelight being so, you know, successful with basketball, has your dad tried to re enter your life?
- [16:55]
Chris
He's tried at certain points. And there were certain times where I didn't let him or I didn't want him to be because I was at a such a high to where I felt like if I let him in while I'm at my high, that's just gonna mess up with my head. Just how he is so inconsistent. And I was like, I don't want to let him in while I'm at this high. And then he pulls some bullshit and then now I'm like, low. You know what I mean? So I'm very big on that.
- [17:17]
Justin
Well, yeah, I imagine also you're very protective of not only yourself, but your entire family.
- [17:22]
Chris
Things like that. Absolutely.
- [17:23]
Justin
There's always challenges with that.
- [17:26]
Chris
I know, right? You know, we still have a great relationship. He's kind of like my best friend in a way, instead of like a. Like a father figure. He sure does have some good words of wisdom sometimes, but I don't really think we have like, that he doesn't give like that fatherly advice.
- [17:40]
Huda
Like, it's like how. Yeah, my. I have the same relationship with my dad. There's not a dad bone in his body. And I think once I got to the point where I just accepted him for who he was and, like, didn't expect dad.
- [17:51]
Chris
Right.
- [17:52]
Huda
Actions to come out of him, then it was like, you know, we're. It's fine.
- [17:56]
Chris
Yeah, I get you. Yeah, for sure. I can relate. Yeah.
- [18:00]
Justin
Did you watch much? Like, before I got into this crazy world, like, I didn't watch reality tv. Did you get into it at all? Are you a fan of pop Culture or were you just like this killer athlete? Like, you got. You got the call from a violin, just being like, I guess I'll go. I kind of know about it.
- [18:13]
Chris
Honestly, I wasn't really big on reality tv. I don't know if you guys remember the show next on from mtv, like a while back.
- [18:19]
Justin
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- [18:20]
Chris
But ever since then, I wasn't really big on reality tv. Like, I've kind of just really grinded with. With this hoop shit and. But it wasn't until Love island hit me up that I even started watching the show. As soon as it hit me up and I was like, you know what? Like, I'm interested. We could talk more. I tapped into season five, watched all the season five, and then I tapped into season six. Even though I saw, like, a lot of tiktoks, they were going viral in that way, I just watched it from beginning to end. I'm like, okay, you know what? Like, still not me, but it's something that I'm willing to get into. So season five is probably my favorite season out of the whole season.
- [18:52]
Justin
Hot take.
- [18:54]
Huda
There we go.
- [18:54]
Chris
Very hot take.
- [18:55]
Justin
What did you like about it?
- [18:56]
Chris
The drama. It was just great tv. And I feel like that was when.
- [19:00]
Justin
It was pure and in the sense.
- [19:01]
Chris
Yeah, exactly. Yeah, for sure. And I really. I really love, like, the story about Bergy. Like, that really got to me. Like, the fact that he couldn't find his match in the beginning, like, first, what, two days, I think it was. And then he came back. They gave him another opportunity. I was like, damn near cry, like, watching that for I'm like, damn, my boy Bergie.
- [19:18]
Justin
Like, he also ended up on trail.
- [19:20]
Chris
There you go. You know what I mean? And now he's. What? I think he's married. Yeah, I know. I think him and, Yeah, I think they either engaged or get married. So shout out to Bergy, man.
- [19:28]
Justin
I mean, listen, like, this. This experience y' all went on, it makes or breaks people.
- [19:33]
Chris
Yeah.
- [19:33]
Justin
You know, and I think if you're someone who can kind of be able to separate what matters and what doesn't, you appreciate your fans for what they are, fans and things like that without getting so obsessed with the criticisms or the prai. I mean, I think honestly, the praise is more dangerous than the criticism. Yeah, you can really learn a lot about yourself. You can open up a bunch of doors. You'll have incredible access for a long time, you know, violent. Oh, shit. Like, people are just gonna be fascinated with your experience. I mean, you guys are on this rocket ship that Just in it and it lands pretty fast and you kind of settle in and then also you have these huge opportunities. It's a mind fuck. You really, you really. Now more than ever, your people are so important for sure to you.
- [20:15]
Huda
Well, Justin Bieber has tapped in and he has posted you. He's posted Huda.
- [20:21]
Chris
Yeah.
- [20:21]
Huda
How was that?
- [20:22]
Chris
Like, honestly, that was a surreal feeling. I'm like a huge fan of Justin Bieber and I have been like most of my life, ever since I was a kid. So, like, seeing that like my face on his platform, like, oh, shit. Like, you really tapped in for real. So that was really cool to see.
- [20:37]
Justin
Did you hear his new album yet?
- [20:38]
Chris
I didn't, I didn't. I'm still like getting back to like hearing all this new music. Like, I'm really big on Givon. I don't know if you guys listen to give you, but I heard he came out with an album so I've been trying to tap into that too. Also, I saw Kehlani have posted about me and Hooda too, which was pretty. That was pretty nice to see. I'm a big Kehlani fan and she's one of my celebrity crushers. So that was honestly, like, I mean.
- [21:00]
Huda
This show is watched by so many celebrities, which is crazy. So many. I mean, like, Kylie Jenner is posting about, like, just. Are you serious? Oh, yeah.
- [21:09]
Chris
Oh, shit.
- [21:09]
Huda
Kylie Jenner, Kendall, Hailey Bieber, all of them are like sitting down on their yacht to watch on a little iPad.
- [21:17]
Chris
I did not know that. That's so crazy to me. Like, I'm still trying to learn, like, and wrap my head around, like, how big this show is.
- [21:24]
Justin
Like, it's a pretty big deal.
- [21:25]
Chris
Like, I knew Megan went on the show and like, she know everybody. Hell yeah.
- [21:30]
Justin
Stupid question.
- [21:30]
Chris
Hell yeah. I was high. I'm like, damn. Like, of course you go in when I'm not in there. But I mean, it is what it is. But that's just crazy to me how, like, people are like, so like, they dive into the show like they knew everybody knew their story, everything like that. I'm like, damn. Like, that's actually kind of crazy.
- [21:44]
Huda
So really crazy.
- [21:46]
Chris
Yeah, but shout out to them, man.
- [21:49]
Justin
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- [22:06]
Huda
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Huda
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Justin
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Huda
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- [24:10]
Huda
Getting into your experience on the show, you went in Casa more.
- [24:14]
Chris
Yeah.
- [24:14]
Huda
And immediately coupled up with Shell. What was that relationship like? What did we, I mean, did you get to watch anything back?
- [24:21]
Chris
I haven't watched anything. Only thing I've seen is like parts of the finale.
- [24:24]
Justin
When did you find out you're going to be a CASA guy?
- [24:25]
Chris
What the day be? Maybe the day before we started filming it.
- [24:30]
Justin
So you'd watched the previous other seasons?
- [24:32]
Chris
Yeah.
- [24:33]
Justin
What did you think your assignment was like? You know what I'm saying? What did you go in there thinking, like, this is what I need to do. Was it like any internal strategy that you had from watching other shows?
- [24:42]
Chris
No.
- [24:42]
Justin
Or was it like, yeah, but it must be very nerve wracking for sure, you know, like what it, what does that look like?
- [24:47]
Chris
Honestly, if we didn't even know like the format of CASA was going to get changed this year. They kind of just told us as we were filming and how, as we were there. But I just was going in with like pure intentions, like I know what I want and I'm gonna just do what I would do in the outside world and just go after that and if it works, it works. If it don't, it don't. Like, you know what I mean? Yeah, that's really all I had planned. I didn't really have like a certain plot to go.
- [25:08]
Justin
What clips did they show? Like how much about Shelly and Ace's relationship and Huda and Jeremiah's relationship were like.
- [25:15]
Chris
Were you aware of pretty much everything? Honestly, with Ace and Shelly though, I didn't see how deep of a connection they had before they, before she came into casa. I thought it, I didn't think it was as strong as what I saw in person. So, you know. But yeah, I don't want to go too deep into that. But yeah, I didn't, I didn't know it was that deep until when she got to Casa and she told me like, yeah, we're really getting and stuff like that. I saw that they had coupled up, but I didn't know, like they were getting really vulnerable with each other. And, like, opening up that much. So until she told me.
- [25:48]
Huda
Would you have not proceeded with Shelly had you known, or would you still have been like, this is Casa More. This is what this explains?
- [25:56]
Chris
I mean, I was just going about it how I would. Naturally, I wasn't really too worried about that, because I knew if she was gonna like me, she was gonna like me regardless, which she did. You know what I mean? But I didn't want to have, like, a certain plan, like, oh, let me really try to do this so I could really steer her away from Ace, you know what I mean? Like, I'm not. I'm not that type of person. And I think seeing them together in person, like, after Casa More really gave me, like, a clear head of, like, damn, like, he really does like her. And I feel like speaking from a. From a black man standpoint, seeing another black man be that vulnerable with somebody, especially a woman, and, like, her letting him. That's like, that's huge. You know what I mean? Because we don't really get the opportunity nowadays or ever. So it's like, that kind of resonated with me, and that's why it made me feel some type of way towards him and how. Why I respected him so much.
- [26:47]
Justin
Did you and Ace have a chance to have that conversation? I know you guys.
- [26:50]
Chris
Yeah.
- [26:51]
Justin
You two talked. We got a glimpse of it. But was that something that you guys talked about?
- [26:55]
Chris
Yeah, I had pulled him for a chat. Oh, wow. Me saying that is crazy outside the villa. But I had. I wanted to talk to him because I noticed, like, some weird tension when I first got to the vill. I knew why, and I just wanted to address the situation, like, hey, bro. Like, I don't want to move, like, awkwardly around here. Like, I don't want things to be like, oh, I don't. I don't mess with him because he's trying to take my girl or, like, anything vindictive, anything like that. So I just want to address the situation at hand because, as you guys know, I'm very mature, and I don't like to feel like I can't go say what's up to him, or like, we in a group setting and I can't crack a joke, or we can't. You know what I mean? Like, it's just me and him in the kitchen. He feel like he can't come talk to me.
- [27:31]
Huda
Right, right, right.
- [27:32]
Chris
So I just wanted to clear the air as soon as I got there and as soon as I sensed that, that.
- [27:36]
Huda
So, you know, that the kissing challenge where you're holding Shelly like Superman went so insane, so insanely viral. It was everywhere.
- [27:48]
Chris
That was her idea, honestly. And it worked. You know, it worked. It did work.
- [27:53]
Justin
As you guys got back to the villa and you saw the relationship between Ace and Shelly.
- [27:57]
Chris
Yeah.
- [27:58]
Justin
During the Stand on business challenge, I feel like most of the audience was kind of confused by how the group addressed you.
- [28:05]
Chris
Yeah.
- [28:05]
Justin
And they seem to kind of come for you a little bit.
- [28:07]
Chris
Yeah, for sure.
- [28:08]
Justin
Love how you stood up for yourself.
- [28:09]
Chris
Thank you, brother.
- [28:11]
Justin
But were you as caught off guard and surprised as the audience felt? Because, like, you know, we got to see Ace and. And Shelly.
- [28:18]
Chris
Yeah.
- [28:19]
Justin
And I think they seemed like one of the most compatible couples.
- [28:21]
Chris
For sure.
- [28:22]
Justin
From honest. Maybe from, like, episode two.
- [28:25]
Chris
Oh, for sure.
- [28:25]
Justin
You know.
- [28:26]
Chris
Yeah.
- [28:26]
Justin
Shelly had a little thing with Austin that she was, you know.
- [28:29]
Chris
Yeah.
- [28:30]
Justin
Exploring.
- [28:31]
Chris
Right.
- [28:31]
Justin
And I think, listen, it's. I think it's tough for the islanders to know, are we supposed to close off? Are we not supposed to close off? You know, like, how long do we explore relationships without sabotaging what I have in front of me?
- [28:43]
Chris
Right.
- [28:44]
Justin
So I think a lot of the audience were like, yeah, you guys. You guys are great together. You know, we see it. But it seemed like Shelly really, you know, had different expectations of you, you know, after you got into the. To the villa. And, like, did you get a better understanding of where she was coming from?
- [29:00]
Chris
Kind of. There were just, like, some situations, you know, kind of, like, off cameras with. Well, where it kind of gave me a little bit of different insight on her and how she moved. I think the point of, like, the Stand on business challenge, I think the reason why they were coming for me so much was because they saw a little bit of a difference of, like, my efforts as far as, like, when we were in Casa and then when we got to the villa. But I addressed it, I was like, you know, like, how I said, like, I really see how Ace is with her, and I respected that. And I'm not a man that's going to step on toes when I got a whole other connection that's willing to get to know me as well. Like, if I don't feel like that same want to, like, want from that person, like, and I have somebody else that does want me, I'm gonna go explore that and make that my priority, you know what I mean? And so it was no shade towards her, like, moving, how I move, like, that change. And I wouldn't even call, like, a switch up. I just put my efforts in a different basket because that basket was, you know, wanting me more than the other one. You know what I mean?
- [29:55]
Justin
It makes tons of sense. Like, I was kind of confused by when everyone was saying how you switched up.
- [30:00]
Huda
It's.
- [30:00]
Justin
Well, it's Love Island.
- [30:01]
Chris
Yeah.
- [30:02]
Justin
People are switching up all the time. It just. It didn't make sense. Why? Kind of the group itself was kind of like, had this, like. Well, no, you're supposed to. You're only supposed to go after the people in the villa and as if you couldn't explore everybody. Any. Everybody else.
- [30:16]
Chris
Yeah. And I. I hated that perspective because it's like, okay, so you. You basically, you guys all want my experience to be me fighting for Shelly and me trying to take her away from Ace. Like, that's not what my experience is going to be, like, especially when I have a beautiful woman that wants to get to know me. You know what I mean? That I was actually interested. And I'm gonna for sure dive into that. Instead of me just focus on trying to take Shelly away from Ace. Like, I'm not a person that's big on competition. Like, especially seeing them together. I'm like, okay, that's all you. You know what I mean? I'm gonna go take my efforts and put them over here. So, you know, it worked out. But. Yeah.
- [30:48]
Huda
How did you feel having Alandra kind of out the kiss that you and Hudda?
- [30:53]
Chris
Honestly, in the moment, I thought it was very disrespectful, and it wasn't, like, her place to do that. But at the same time, like, I kind of get it. She was just trying to stand up for her girl, Shelly, and that's something that I would do, like, for my boy. So I can't really blame her for it. But in the moment, I did think that was disrespectful just because of how they were all coming at Huda, were.
- [31:14]
Huda
Did you know the kind of plan or whatever that Huda and Shelly had put together to bring you to the villa?
- [31:22]
Chris
Yeah, Huda brought it to my attention. I forgot if it was during our first conversation or the second one. I think it was the second one she brought to my attention. When she told me, it kind of weirded me. I'm like, I don't know. Because I didn't want, like, that narrative of, oh, he's just trying to stay in the villa. Because that wasn't the case at all. Before we found out we were all going back to the villa. Shelly was gonna bring me back herself, and I felt like I had done the work for us to get to that point, and for her to feel that way. It wasn't until we all found out we were going back to the villa and Huda realized she didn't really have a connection and casa more. And she had expressed that interest and I was interested. Did as well. And so I think that plan kind of just benefited all of us. I know there was a, like, a lot of talk in the villa, like, oh, like, you saying, like, you did this for Shelly, like, wasn't true. But it for sure was, I can assure you that. And I. And I try to make sure that I'm like, okay, like, I understand we're going to explore, but just as long as, you know, like, I am still going to be exploring Shelly, because that's my top priority at that time. And she understood and she pushed me to do that. Even we were. While we were in the village, she's like, hey, go talk to Shelly or do this, do that. Like. Like, she would still be pushing me even if it wasn't Shelly. She just wanted me to explore everybody, you know what I mean? Because she still wanted to be open as well. Yeah. I mean, but the true plan was to be there just to explore, or mostly to explore Shelly as well.
- [32:37]
Justin
So it's kind of silly that, like, for whatever reason, you had to face this pressure of, like, your intentions of why you were there. As if anyone wanted to go home.
- [32:46]
Chris
Exactly.
- [32:47]
Justin
You know, like, everyone wanted to stay for romantic connections, for friendships, for the experience. It was fun, you know, and, like, just seems silly that you had to justify wanting to be there for a couple days.
- [33:01]
Chris
Yeah. And I'm sure if anybody was in that same position, they would have did the same thing, you know what I mean? But I think because they were all so close to Shelly and they saw that switch up or whatever, they had to point that out. And I'm like, that's why I said what I said. And it's going crazy on TikTok. Like, I could be playing basketball right now. I really could. You know what I mean? I wasn't tripping about getting back to the villa if I did. Great opportunity, you know what I mean? I get to still explore connections, but if not, I'm perfectly fine. You know what I mean? I did my time here. Here. I tried. I tried my hardest, you know, me with Shelly. So. Yeah. I mean, it is what it was, though.
- [33:33]
Justin
Yeah.
- [33:33]
Huda
Watching Huda and Jeremiah's relationship, I can't help but think that, like, your connection with Huda must have been so genuine.
- [33:41]
Chris
Yeah.
- [33:42]
Huda
That you really thought, like, oh, I'm seeing, and correct me if I'm wrong, a different person than maybe what you saw watching it back that you're like, now I do want to give this a shot. Is that right?
- [33:51]
Chris
Yeah, absolutely. I think, I think even when I first met her in Casa, I noticed a difference. And, you know, she was expressing to her first connection, jd that she was planning on moving different. And the way she was talking and me hearing some of her conversation, I'm like, okay, like, you know, she's cool. Like, I don't think, like what I saw was like, truly her. I think she was just in a very toxic situation that. And both of them are like, they just weren't compatible.
- [34:16]
Huda
Right.
- [34:17]
Chris
So, yeah, I mean, I truly saw a different side of Huda that I connected with and that I really liked. And I'm glad that, you know, I was able to explore that and get to know that real side of her because she really is a cool ass person, I'm not gonna lie.
- [34:29]
Justin
So when you got to see a little bit of Jeremiah and Huda's relationship.
- [34:32]
Chris
Yeah.
- [34:33]
Justin
Did you come in with preconceived notions of how she moved and then have it drastically changed or were you. Were you already just been like, I don't know, man. I'm just gonna go with the clean slate because I think a lot of fans, you know, Huda's the star that part of the season, right? She is. Whether you like her or don't like her, people care about her. They, she's the star. Right. And so what was that like for you? Or was it intimidating knowing that you quickly like connecting with the one of the show's biggest stars?
- [35:03]
Chris
Honestly, like, when I first watched her coming in, I thought she was great, you know what I mean? And I think when she started getting to that point with Jeremiah where things got bad, I think it just brought out a whole different side of her that wasn't truly her. And I know, like, people are either gonna uplift you or they're going to show different sides of you, you know what I mean? And I don't think, like that side of her was the true her. I think it was just her situation that she was in brought that side out of her. But that's not how she would act normally, you know what I mean? Because how she was with me was totally different. But I didn't have a thought process on how I thought she was coming into casa. I just gave it a clean slate, you know what I mean? I tried to see her who she really was. From an outsider's perspective, because I wasn't coupled up with her from day one one, so. But seeing her like that, I mean, I. I truly don't think that's the true her.
- [35:55]
Justin
What was the moment between the two of you, Whether it was a conversation or a moment where you were like, oh, like, this is someone I'm really interested in, I want to pursue. And it made you, you know, in your head, go from pursuing Shelley to pursuing Huda.
- [36:08]
Chris
Good question. I think after she brought the, you know, I'm interested. When we had that little moment in Casa, I think after that, I kind of saw her a little different. Obviously, the physical attraction was there. Like, she's gorgeous. You know what I mean? But, like, I think once we got to the villa and she started opening up a little bit more about her daughter and stuff like that, I'm like, okay, like, actually, like, you're. You're. You're dope. I've gotten to know you as a friend, like, throughout Casa, We've had, you know, funny conversations. She was really funny. She had me laughing every single day. But, like, hearing her open up and, like, coming from a single mom myself, like, I understand, like, how hard that is. And so when she did that, I'm like, okay, like, I really like you because you don't just do that with everybody. Like, it's all like. You saw how. How long it took her to say it to Jeremiah, you know what I mean? Because she didn't. I don't know if she didn't feel comfortable or what it was, but. And I already. I already knew off bat, so she couldn't really, like, keep that away from me. But, like, just her even wanting to open up about that, that for sure made me like her a lot more.
- [37:11]
Justin
So that's really cool.
- [37:13]
Huda
You even had. I mean, you had your response to her asking, like, I don't even know if she asked, but you were just like, I'm just going to make this clear. Like, I have no issue with you having a daughter. Did that come from you just growing up with a single mom?
- [37:25]
Chris
Yeah. Me coming up with a single mom, and then also, like, seeing my sisters go through that as well. And I know how hard that is. Like, men already, like, as soon as they hear, oh, she has a kid, oh, I can't do it. You know what I mean? Like, and I hate that because I feel like that's not fair. Like, you know what mean? I mean, just because she has a child doesn't, like, mean anything.
- [37:44]
Huda
So, yeah, I feel like we kind of heard maybe a little bit of that mindset whenever. Maybe it was Nick talking to Jeremiah. Jeremiah. I don't know if, like, you got to see this, but he was kind of like. And then like, you know, the baby daddy, he's always around, you know, like, he's going to be in the life and like, do they have a good. And it was kind of like, oh, you're already questioning, you know, the negative side of this without even knowing, you know, the full, the full picture. So it's really cool of you to be like, you know what? I'm just gonna go ahead and let you know off bat, I don't give a fuck. And that doesn't sway anything.
- [38:14]
Chris
Yeah. And I think me expressing that so soon and like, right off the, right off the bat kind of made her comfortable.
- [38:19]
Huda
Yeah.
- [38:19]
Chris
And made her want to dive into that connection a little bit more. I just wanted to tell her just so she didn't think that I would switch up when finding out or when she talked about it or she felt like she couldn't bring her up.
- [38:32]
Huda
You honestly probably provided her such a safe place.
- [38:34]
Chris
Oh, absolutely.
- [38:35]
Huda
And that's a really. That's really dope ye.
- [38:37]
Chris
And I. That's what I wanted for her because I feel like her past situation before I came in didn't really provide that for her. Yeah. And, you know, I saw a different light in her that I. That I wanted to do that for her. So.
- [38:48]
Justin
Yeah. It's as cool that you were able to empathize with her and, like, be able to relate with her, make her feel seen.
- [38:53]
Chris
Yeah.
- [38:53]
Justin
You know, it's like everyone had so many opinions of Huda in general.
- [38:57]
Chris
Yeah.
- [38:59]
Justin
And then obviously, specifically how she chose to, like, talk about being a mom. And. Yeah. It's just like, how. How do you, you. How do you go about doing that on an international scale?
- [39:08]
Chris
Right.
- [39:09]
Justin
Let alone doing it with people you're gonna date.
- [39:11]
Chris
Right.
- [39:12]
Justin
Are they gonna accept you? Is it gonna be used against you? Again, this isn't just like some normal, like, interaction, you know? And so, yeah, everyone has opinions about it, but, like, yeah, like, we've all heard the stories about, like, single moms who try to date and then like, people, like, pretend they don't care and then find ways to, like. But, like, yeah, it's not really for me and things like that. So it's.
- [39:33]
Huda
It also is nice to hear, though, because I, I mean, I remember I was, you know, critical of the way in the beginning how she talked about being a mom. So it is really Nice to hear that there was so much more and that she was able to open up to you and talk about her daughter in ways that maybe we didn't get to see. So that. That is really nice to hear.
- [39:51]
Chris
Yeah, I just. I cared about that side because, like I said, I know how hard it is to even talk about that or bring it up to a man. You know, you might do that and they'll instantly judge you or have, like, some type of thought process when it comes to that. That's why I always was asking about her, like, her situation with her daughter's father and stuff like that. Just to hear, let her open up and let her feel comfortable with bringing all that stuff up and me not judging her or seeing her differently.
- [40:16]
Justin
Did the stand down business challenge where you both, for different reasons kind of people came at you. Do you feel like that kind of solidified your connection and brought you guys closer together?
- [40:25]
Chris
I think so, honestly, because I didn't like how they all ganged up on her and I was gonna stand up for her for sure because she didn't do anything wrong, you know, I mean, in my opinion, at least.
- [40:36]
Justin
And do you feel like when you came in, because it, you know, it's like that season is so long and things move so fast when you came in, it felt like to the rest of the house that Huda was kind of on the outs where, like, she. Everything that happened with her and Jeremiah, like everyone else, seemed frustrated with the whole situation. Jeremiah got the boot. Was that what was really going on in the house where Huda was kind of treated like an outsider a little bit with the rest of the group? Or was that more, you know, that's how it was shown, but not in.
- [41:08]
Chris
Reality, honestly, I mean, I can't really say I know too much just because I don't know how it was shown, but I don't think she was seen as an outsider, though. Yeah, in my opinion, I think people saw, like, the genuine connection between me and her and they liked me for her because I feel like I'm totally different than Jeremiah, you know what I mean? So, I mean, yeah, but I wouldn't say she was considered as an outsider, though.
- [41:28]
Huda
Okay, so obviously y' all all didn't end up together. You ended up breaking things off. What was the kind of thing that switched for the two of you?
- [41:38]
Chris
Honestly, just like, compatibility and not meeting each other's love languages. Although we were only not dating, but what would you call it coupled up? We were only covered up for what I think it was like Two weeks, maybe a little bit more than that. So there was still a lot of things that we needed to learn about each other. And I feel like, like, although we were with each other for 20, I mean, 24, seven for two weeks, we didn't really have enough time, one on one, to like, really talk about that and really, like, dive into that part. I was so fixated on, like, trying to get to know her as a person and like, the deeper side of her to where I didn't really. Although we talked about love languages, I didn't really see, like, how important it was to her. And, you know, sometimes she would be like, hey, like, for example, but like, in the mornings, like, when I, when, when you see me come downstairs, like, can you do this for me? And then I'm like, oh, okay. So that really is something that she really needs. And I would do that for her. You know what I mean? So I think I've learned, like, a lot about love languages and how important it is to, like, give that to somebody because they could be looking for that, like, every day. And it's like, it's the little things. So. Yeah.
- [42:44]
Huda
Do you feel like it was kind of the not wanting to show PDA throughout the villa but at nighttime being okay with it? Do you feel like that was kind of like, the tipping point?
- [42:55]
Chris
I wouldn't say it was the tipping point because I was still willing to try. Even on our date, I expressed like, hey, like, I still am willing to make this work on the outside and just see if it works at all. If it doesn't, it doesn't. Like, but I was just willing to try. I just didn't really understand her perspective when it came to that. Because I'll re say this, like, I have seven sisters and I see all different types of perspectives and points of views and stuff like that, but. But that kind of just didn't sit well with me because in the real world, you're basically saying, okay, if it's in private, you're basically going to invite a man to your home and have sex with him or whatever it is before you kiss him on a date. That didn't really make sense to me. So that's why I couldn't really just wrap my head around her thought process. Although I do understand where she's coming from as far as, like, she. Her not wanting to repeat what she had or what she had did with Jeremiah. I just think, like I said, I'm totally different and I provided her such a different space to where she felt comfortable. She Felt safe. She felt. Felt, you know, not less anxious, all that. So I just didn't understand.
- [43:52]
Huda
Was it confusing to hear her kind of say, like, I'm not comfortable, like, showing pda. I want to move differently. But then to say, like, I want my man obsessed with me. I want. I don't want to have to tell you to, like, put your arm around me.
- [44:04]
Chris
It was very. I don't want to say, contradicting. It was just confusing because one at one thing, I'm like, well, everything we do here is pda. Like, you know what I mean?
- [44:14]
Huda
Mean, cameras everywhere.
- [44:15]
Chris
The cameras are literally everywhere. So I. That's another thing that I couldn't really see her point. Like, I'm like, okay, you don't want to do things in front of the other islanders. I'm like, okay. But they see us make out all the time in challenges, you know, I mean, like, they're right next to us in bed when. When we're kissing or whatever we got going on. So it's just, like, I didn't really understand, like, what she meant about pda, but I think she just wasn't trying to be on, like, some Pepe and Iris type of thing. Like, always kissy and touchy and stuff like that. She was trying to take it slow, which I respected when it came to that part. Part. And that's, you know, I'm. I'm. I move slow when it comes to that, too. Like, I don't want to be making out in front of people and stuff like that. Like a peg or a kiss on the cheek. Okay. Cool. Forehead kiss. Those are little things that I'm about, but, like, I didn't really want to, like, just be full tongue making out in front of people either. So. Yeah.
- [45:00]
Justin
Do you feel like maybe, like, given, like, everything we talk about, just the pressure of the show and just how long she was there, do you feel like kind of like the whole her and Jeremiah of it all, like, got in her head in a way? Where did you guys ever, like, address that part? Like, the disconnect where it's like, all right, maybe we're just not seeing eye to eye because we're just coming from two completely points, different points of view, where she's like, hey, like, it might not be reality, but I dealt with this. This is my reality now, and I. I got shit for this. Everyone came at me. America came at me. When America voted to break up Jeremiah and Huddha, that was like, America being petty.
- [45:38]
Chris
Yeah.
- [45:39]
Justin
And. And just being. And. And telling Jeremiah and Huda like, we don't like what's going on here. And just like that, just to be in that world and then find that out about people voting for you is a mind fuck.
- [45:51]
Chris
Yeah, for sure. I think she was a little traumatized from that.
- [45:53]
Justin
Yeah.
- [45:54]
Chris
And that's what really made her be like, okay, I'm gonna move completely different. I'm gonna move so slow. Which I respect it. You know what I mean? Like, especially with the whole America thing. Like, of course you don't want America to hate you or the other islanders. Like, you're gonna spend so much time with them. Like, to where you don't wanna walk around and be like, oh, I don't like her. You know what I mean? So I totally got got where she was coming from with that as far as moving slow. It just like, I just didn't really see, like, how you can move slow, but you wanna, you know, do things in the bedroom. Is.
- [46:21]
Justin
Is how dark is it in those bedrooms?
- [46:24]
Chris
Oh, my gosh. You can't see nothing.
- [46:25]
Justin
Okay.
- [46:25]
Huda
Like, even once your eyes, like, regulate to the darkness, you still can't see anything.
- [46:29]
Chris
Oh, you can see some when you. When. When you're adjusted, but, like, it takes a minute, though. Yeah, it's dark.
- [46:34]
Justin
Like, I assumed the reason I asked, I assumed that in her mind she's just like, this is. This is our moment. We're alone, even though we're not alone. And like, every. You know, it's our own. It's the only time I can be alone. It's like under these fucking sheets, right? Do you. I guess I'm wondering, do you think there's any, like, have you guys spoken much off outside of the villa?
- [46:59]
Chris
Yeah, like, we're staying with each other right now.
- [47:01]
Justin
Okay.
- [47:01]
Chris
Yeah. Me and her are really cool and I want to make that clear because I feel like everybody thinks, like, we hate each other and stuff, like. But, like, me and Hood are cool.
- [47:07]
Justin
And do you feel like, is there. Is it just friendly or are you guys kind of almost taking it slow, being like, I don't know, we're out of the villa. This is. Pressure's off. It's just us.
- [47:16]
Chris
Yeah.
- [47:17]
Justin
There's no weird sleeping arrangement situation. There's no cameras. Are you open to, like, to seeing, like, how things play out? And is there a chance that a romantic connection could still be a possibility?
- [47:29]
Chris
Honestly, I don't know. As of right now, like, I'm taking this friend and I just want to run with that. You know what I mean? I don't think we got the Chance to be friends before coupled up, being coupled up in the villa. So now that that's done and we can be regular, I want to take us being friends. I want to do that. I want to be friends with her. And if down the road we come back to each other and it's organically and it's mutual, then I'll be open to it. Of course. But I think right now and for the time being, I think being friends is what's best. Best.
- [48:02]
Huda
Okay, so the baby challenge. Did Huda know that it was not a real baby? You have to hold her head. She can't sit up yet. She's too young.
- [48:13]
Justin
That is true.
- [48:15]
Chris
I mean, I, I.
- [48:18]
Huda
It'S like you're ripping her shirt off too hard, right?
- [48:20]
Chris
I'm like, first of all, I didn't want to. She is, I think she dove into that challenge head in because she has a daughter. And I think she really want to prove, like, how much of a mommy she was like, and how good of a mom.
- [48:33]
Justin
And Iris left their baby next to.
- [48:34]
Chris
The stove, you know what I mean? And they were both fine with that type.
- [48:39]
Justin
Somehow they won the, like, they passed the challenge.
- [48:42]
Chris
Right. I don't know how they passed the challenge with that, but, yeah, I think Huda may have taken it a little too serious because she is an actual mom and she was looking to see if, like, I was that, that man that knew what I was doing, I think. But in my opinion, like, yeah, like, it's a challenge and I should be taking seriously, but at the end of the day, it's a doll. Like, I'm not really too worried about this neck. I wouldn't do that with a real baby. Just, like, sit him up. And I feel like she was trying to put, like, an age on the baby to where, like, the baby was, like, two weeks old or something like that and couldn't control her neck. I'm like, that's not it at all.
- [49:15]
Huda
You were like, we were just sitting together over here.
- [49:17]
Chris
She was just sitting up perfectly fine, like, but she didn't see that. So, you know, I can't really blame her.
- [49:23]
Justin
But were you there for the heart rate challenge?
- [49:25]
Chris
I was there for the heart rate challenge.
- [49:26]
Justin
That, that broke people's brains. Yeah.
- [49:29]
Chris
I'm sorry you guys had to see that.
- [49:31]
Justin
No, no, we, no, we enjoyed it.
- [49:33]
Huda
It was a pretty good.
- [49:35]
Justin
But it certainly broke. The Internet centered around Huda, the whole Shelly and Ace of it all. And there's all these fan theories and people trying to dissect these scenes and things. Like that. But you were there. It's like, what did you see? Being a person who was there, how did you feel? Like everyone's reaction was, I feel like.
- [49:56]
Chris
I don't think she really did anything wrong. Before the challenge even started, we all mutually said, like, okay, do we all have consent about anything? Like, does anybody have any boundaries that they, that they have? Like, let's address them. Who's not comfortable with what really? Everybody raised their hand. Yeah, we're all comfortable kissing, touching, whatever it is, we cool.
- [50:13]
Justin
And no one said nothing, anything.
- [50:15]
Chris
We were in the fire pit and I think it was either Shelly or somebody in the group. Like, just to make sure everybody is consensual with everything. Like, is, you know, is everybody okay with that? We all put our hand up. You know what I mean? So going into that hood is like, okay, I'm gonna really do my big one then. Like, everybody's cool with it. Like, it's just a challenge. Okay, cool. And I think a big thing is nobody established their boundaries with their person before. That led to people doing whatever they wanted to somebody else's couple, which in my opinion, it's a challenge. You shouldn't really take it that seriously. And if you didn't want that to happen, you should have said.
- [50:50]
Huda
I mean, we still. Yeah, we have. I think Taylor and Clark were definitely like, she damn near was sitting on Ace's face. Like she was.
- [50:57]
Chris
That she was, that she was.
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- [55:18]
Chris
Yeah.
- [55:19]
Huda
What are those reasons?
- [55:21]
Chris
So to me, I don't know if I don't think they showed it, aired it, but like, how the date went. She was like, I don't like this about you. I don't like this, I don't like this. I don't like this. So it kind of put me in like a mental state of like, damn, like, do you not like me at all? Like, and then that's why I was like. When she brought up like, I think we should be friends, I was like, I was just waiting for you to say it because she was literally telling me all the things that she didn't like. And in my head I'm like, okay. Like, she don't. She don't fuck with me. You know what I mean, but when it came to me not carrying her, I think it was the way she kind of asked me that kind of threw me. I was like, are you gonna carry me or are you gonna make me walk? I'm like, okay, first of all, like, I didn't really like how you just asked me. I came back wanting to help you down and, like, walk with you as a gentleman should. I just didn't wanna give her that treatment of, okay, you still think, like, you could still get that princess treatment out of me. Like, once we establish what we are, which is friends now, I'm not gonna treat you as, like, you're my woman and hold you like that. Like, that's just how I move, you know what I mean? Like, I. I went up to her, I came back to make sure she was cool. Like, why you crying? Stuff like that. We talked about it a little bit, and I held my hand out for her to help her down so we could walk together. She didn't want that. She wanted to be carried. And I'm like, well, I'm not going to do that. Like, you're. You're not mine anymore. Like, we're not. You know what I mean? Like, we're broken up now, so I'll help you. I'll be a gentleman to help you, like, down and you, I mean, so you don't have to be by yourself. But she didn't to want. Want that.
- [56:41]
Justin
So. One question I have for you, like, man to man.
- [56:44]
Chris
And I.
- [56:44]
Justin
And I was when we were talking about this moment on our show yesterday, and obviously we recognize things are edited, but.
- [56:50]
Chris
Yeah.
- [56:50]
Justin
Anyway, something us men, I. I think are notorious for when it comes to ending relationships is just letting them break up with us.
- [56:58]
Chris
Right.
- [56:58]
Justin
You know, it's like if we're kind of checked out or we feel like it's not working, we're not vibing, we become more distant and then kind of just wait for them and like, we should break up and then we're either maybe we're happy or maybe we're sad.
- [57:10]
Chris
Yeah.
- [57:10]
Justin
Was hood of breaking ending the relationship. Relationship, 100%. Her call where you were just still hoping to leave as a couple and then you were very hurt by her actions or was it kind of a mutual decision that ultimately she had to, like, make that decision and. And then obviously it seemed like your feelings were hurt.
- [57:28]
Chris
Yeah, for sure. Hurt.
- [57:29]
Justin
Yeah. Because at first it kind of felt like you were. You know, I think we do this a lot, right? You want, we act like we don't care. You Know, at first you were kind of giving. I don't give a. I'm just waiting for you to say it. Just say it. Just say it, you know, and then you're like, well, do you not care?
- [57:41]
Chris
You know, I think that's why it was perceived that way, because, like, there was no, like, in between. There was a lot of stuff that happened in between that didn't get aired or didn't get showed.
- [57:50]
Justin
Like, what can you share?
- [57:51]
Chris
Well, me personally, like, I told her, like, I wanted to keep working on it. I wanted to see where it went on the outside world, and I genuinely did like her and wanted to see, like, what that would look like and leave there as. Leave there as a couple. But. And so that was purely her decision. I had been waiting there for maybe, like, 20 minutes for her to make her make up her mind because she couldn't wrap her head around. Around it. And she told me she was like, it's crazy because, like, you didn't cheat on me. Like, you haven't done me dirty. Like, you've been everything that I wanted in a man. So, like, me coming to this decision was really hard, and that's why she was crying so much.
- [58:18]
Justin
But, I mean, that's growth on her part.
- [58:21]
Chris
Absolutely.
- [58:22]
Justin
Seems like someone who, like, when she says you haven't, like, I think fans are. Again, we're so myopic and how we watch this show.
- [58:28]
Chris
Yeah.
- [58:28]
Justin
And like, these experiences that you guys go through are so, like. I mean, it's like, it's therapy. Right. You guys are constantly being asked about your feelings, your emotions. You're. You're reflecting on your past relationships and things like that. She probably only had. I don't know, maybe. And, like, that was me. It's like, you only run relationships when something just terrible happens, you know, and you fight for these relationships well beyond the timeline in which maybe you both should.
- [58:52]
Chris
Yeah.
- [58:53]
Justin
And maybe this was growth on her part of saying, like, I don't know, like, you're great, we're great. But, like, there are some specific compatibility problems that. Where I think maybe it's best to walk away now rather than, like, torturing each other forever. Holy.
- [59:05]
Chris
How long?
- [59:06]
Justin
You know, because it kind of seemed like that's what her and Jeremiah did, where it's like, right. There are some compatibility issues. And then instead of just talking through them, acknowledging them, and maybe decided, they just kept, you know, leaning into the lust and the chemistry and. And annoying. The. The compatibility part.
- [59:22]
Chris
Yeah, for sure. And I think with us, like, even though we didn't really have the physical, we had the emotional and everything else. She claimed, like, you know, I, I, she kept having like, repeat herself and like repeat herself. But that wasn't the case. She only told me about what she needed twice because I don't know if it aired or not or if it was shown, but I was always the type of person like, hey, do you need anything for me? Like, are you okay? Like anything like that and vice versa, she would do the same for me. So like her saying like, oh, I had, I don't want to have to keep repeating myself, especially on the outside where I'm like, where is this coming from? Like, that was never the case. You know, you've always, this whole time you've been saying like, how much I check up on you, like, how much did I do for you? The efforts that are being shown. So that kind of confused me as, as well.
- [60:01]
Huda
But you know, the three, two, one, oh my goodness, in the bedroom has been a very talked about moment.
- [60:08]
Chris
Yeah.
- [60:09]
Huda
Thoughts? I mean, now that you're out of it, do you feel like it was as bad as maybe it looked for.
- [60:17]
Justin
Us or like, what didn't we get to see again?
- [60:20]
Chris
Like, yeah, I feel like what you guys didn't get to see is the whole argument and why we were arguing. We weren't arguing because I didn't come cuddle her. We were arguing because we were told, like we were only going to get two hours of sleep. And instead of prioritizing sleep, she wanted to get, you know, active in the bedroom. And I wasn't, I wasn't about that. And I had made that clear to her. I'm like, look, like if we're not going to be doing PDA on the outside, you can't even give me a kiss? Like we're not doing shit in the bedroom.
- [60:47]
Huda
Like, especially if I only get two hours of sleep.
- [60:49]
Chris
Exactly. I'm a big like sleeper and I'm a priority. Yeah. I set a boundary and you know, she crossed it. You know what I mean? She wasn't okay with it. And I, I feel like for her to catch an attitude and for her to be like, okay, if you don't talk to me or anything like that right now, I'm not gonna talk to you all day tomorrow. I'm gonna ruin your day. And count three, two, one. Like I'm some child, like I'm a grown ass man. You can't talk. And if my mama don't talk to me like that, you for sure not gonna talk to me like that. So that's what rubbed me the wrong way. Especially that next day. I was hot, I'm not gonna lie. And I'm big on like not bringing my past emotions from yesterday to the a new day. But that really didn't sit well with me because I'm like, how are you gonna act like that? Like, I've never rejected you. Like, all I did was set a boundary and you just weren't respecting it. You know what I mean? I respected all her boundaries, you know, I mean like, I wasn't like forcing her like, complain that she wasn't kissing me on the outside. Like once she told me why, I'm like, okay, like I get it, but you know, I don't, I don't understand, but I'm gonna respect your boundary at the end of the day. So I just feel like that wasn't really reciprocated, but, you know, it's okay.
- [61:51]
Huda
Was it hard to hear the, the threat of like, if, is this really worth like me being in a shitty mood tomorrow and not talking to you? Like, if you don't do this, I will.
- [62:01]
Chris
I think in the moment it was tough to hear because it's like, why did it have to get to that extent over a boundary that I had set? But you know, she is who she is, especially when emotions are high and she, her biggest thing was like feeling rejected. She didn't want to feel like she was getting rejected.
- [62:15]
Huda
Did you explain that that was how you would felt when you'd wanted to kiss her and she didn't want to kiss you in front of everyone? The like being like, I understand how you felt rejected in this moment, but in these other moments where I wanted to show affection and you didn't, Like.
- [62:29]
Chris
I also felt, hell yeah, I told her that and I told her, like, it kind of made me feel like you were embarrassed of me or something like that. Because everybody in there approved and they told you how much they like us together, but you're still worried about their perception on how it's going to look to them if we kiss in front of them. Know what I mean? So, again, didn't really make any sense to me. But you know, it is what it is.
- [62:48]
Justin
And it was tough like, like watching you two, I mean like other couples again, like whether we got to see it or they didn't want to even engage in it. Yeah, there wasn't a lot of like, conflict to work through. It was just like happy, go lucky. A lot of it.
- [63:02]
Chris
Yeah.
- [63:02]
Justin
And you and Huda were in the most interesting way, like giving Us Glimpses into, like, relationship dynamics. Right.
- [63:08]
Chris
Yeah.
- [63:08]
Justin
And there was a. Like, a theme. It was like, oh, my God, we love them together. And you guys really seemed both interested in, like, all right, like, let's. Let's figure this out.
- [63:16]
Chris
Right.
- [63:17]
Justin
But then when you would try to figure it out, you guys would, like, both trigger each other. Right. And it kind of got contentious early on. Do you feel like that was, again, more lack of compatibility or again, maybe at that stage of the game, it's just no sleep. Like, you guys were running on fumes.
- [63:33]
Chris
Yeah, we really were.
- [63:34]
Justin
Every day to expect either of you to work through these highly, you know, emotional conversations that are triggering both, like, with each other and bring up past relationships.
- [63:46]
Chris
Yeah.
- [63:46]
Justin
Was it just more like, as a result of that, like, are you curious about how I know you guys are going to remain friends for now? I'd be curious how you guys would try to have the same conversations outside of the villa after you guys, like, start healing from the experience.
- [63:59]
Chris
I feel like the conversations now will go a lot smoother.
- [64:02]
Justin
Okay.
- [64:02]
Chris
Because we kind of understand each other. But, like, I told her, like, every couple has hiccups. You know what I mean? But that doesn't mean, like, we should be giving ultimatums. Like, okay, like, do you want me to leave you alone, or do you want me to just. Do you want to just end this? Like, I'm a big person. Like, I'll work. Work through it. And like I told you earlier, like, if we can't sit and have a conversation and try to see an end goal and, like, try to figure out, like, I don't really engage in that toxicity or that combativeness or back and forth, like, stuff like that. And I feel like, you know, the things that were being said and how we treated some situations may have triggered us from, like, past relationships. And I guess it was like a. Kind of, like, a lack of compatibility. But, I mean, at the end of the day, like, we're still getting to know each other, so I feel like if we would have figured that out, we could have went about it the right way, going. Going forward.
- [64:44]
Huda
So your sister.
- [64:46]
Chris
Yeah.
- [64:47]
Huda
Has entered the chat. She responded to, you know, she's being protective sister mode. Responding to some trolls on your behalf.
- [64:56]
Chris
Yeah.
- [64:56]
Huda
She kind of said, like, alluded to her having a lot of things to say.
- [65:01]
Chris
Yeah.
- [65:01]
Huda
Where is that coming from?
- [65:03]
Chris
Honestly, I didn't even know that was a thing that kind of got brought to my attention. I didn't even know that she was gonna do that, nor did I see it. Somebody he'd be like, hey, like, did you see what your sister said? I'm like, what are you about talking. You talking about, like. But as soon as I heard about that, I was not okay with it. I'm not mad at my sister, and I expressed that to her. I'm like, look, I still love you. I'm not mad at you. But, like, you can't do that.
- [65:22]
Huda
Yeah.
- [65:22]
Chris
You know, I mean, because that doesn't. Like, if you were, like, a random person, okay, that's, you know, no big deal. But, like, you're my sister, and that comes back to me, and it makes. It Makes it seem like I support it, and I did not support that at all.
- [65:32]
Justin
It's tough with family because they're so protective and they see all the things online and they want to come for you, and they feel like no one has. Has my brother's back.
- [65:40]
Chris
He knows them.
- [65:41]
Huda
Like, I know him.
- [65:42]
Chris
Exactly.
- [65:43]
Justin
Yeah.
- [65:43]
Chris
And I see both sides. And then when I addressed it to her, she, you know, she issued an apology. And then she sent something for Huda as well right after, because I told.
- [65:52]
Justin
Her I'm like, directly for.
- [65:53]
Chris
Yeah, for Hood. She sent. She sent us a voice note and, like, a long text message, like an apology besides the one she posted on Instagram or whatever. She posted. Right.
- [66:00]
Huda
Was this the one who had met Huda, or was this one of your sisters who was just watching?
- [66:04]
Chris
This was just one of the sisters that was just watching. And she's so passionate about me because our dynamic, our relationship. She's very big on, like, protect. She's like my protector in a way. You know what I mean? So I. I totally get where she's coming from, but at the same time, you can't do that because that makes it seem like I'm supporting what you're talking about, and that's not the case, so.
- [66:22]
Huda
Right.
- [66:22]
Chris
Yeah. Okay.
- [66:23]
Justin
What's next for you?
- [66:24]
Chris
I don't know, man. I'm still, like, in the process of, like, trying to wrap my. My mind around, like, do I want to go play basketball again? Like, is that what's best right now? Or do I take all these opportunities that's getting presented to me now and just take that and ride with it and then build something else on that. I've wanted to get into scripted acting.
- [66:42]
Justin
Okay.
- [66:43]
Chris
You know, people like Will Smith are, like, inspirations to me or inspirational to me. I've always looked up to him. I've done, like, skits and, like, school plays and stuff like that in the past. And seeing him makes me Be like, damn. I, like, I feel like I could do that. You know what I mean? Or I want to be like that. So I want to say scripted acting, maybe some modeling. I feel like I'm very comfortable in front of the camera, so maybe some modeling, but other than that, I'm not. I don't really see myself doing too much else. I want to open up a boys and girls club type of situation and add, like, a basketball camp, like a summer camp type of thing implemented in there. So I want to do that. There's a whole bunch of things I want to dive into, so we'll see where that goes.
- [67:22]
Justin
But you should definitely do the. You should try the acting out.
- [67:24]
Chris
I think. I think I will. I don't know if I need to go, like, acting school or how to go about that, but I feel like I got the talent. I just need to be put in the. In that situation to be. To show that. So.
- [67:35]
Huda
There was a moment at the end of the finale when you and Huda were announced third place. Y' all went over to Iris and Pepe.
- [67:44]
Chris
Yeah.
- [67:45]
Huda
Have you seen this clip?
- [67:46]
Chris
I don't know.
- [67:47]
Huda
Pepe kissed Iris on the head, and then Iris was like. And one for Huda. And there was, like, this little moment.
- [67:51]
Chris
That they had, and then you did.
- [67:53]
Huda
Like, an office directly in the camera. What was going on that moment?
- [68:01]
Chris
That was when I grinned. Yeah. I smiled a little bit. Yeah. I was just like, this is some shit right here. Like, no way. That just happened because I feel like me and Huda had established what we were going to be, and we kind of like, you know, moved on from it and stuff like that. But, like, to see that and, like, that kind of was like, that was real, you know? I mean, that wasn't like, no acting like, they. I don't know. There's something there that was like, okay, like, what's going on right here? So, no, I just. I smiled because it kind of just threw me off. I'm like, that wasn't a joke. Like, that was, like, real shit. So, like, no way. That just happened in front of me. Like, you know what I mean? So. But yeah, I did break the law and look at the camera a little bit. I don't know why I still showed it.
- [68:39]
Justin
So they obviously were okay with it.
- [68:40]
Chris
Yeah, I think it was such a funny moment.
- [68:42]
Justin
Do you feel like. I mean, I think all of you on some level, need to heal from this experience, but you fell for a girl, had some emotions, it didn't work out. Do you feel like you're more healing from a broken heart or healing from this whole or ordeal or maybe a little bit of both. I don't mean to, like, dramatize it. I get it. You only talk for two weeks, but, like, in that, I don't think people fully realize just how intense.
- [69:05]
Chris
Yeah, that is.
- [69:06]
Justin
But, yeah, like, how. How are you processing all that?
- [69:10]
Chris
Honestly, I really did like her, and I think I'm not necessarily healing from that, but I'm trying to get myself to. To not like her anymore. You know what I mean? Which is hard, is that.
- [69:18]
Huda
I bet it's extra hard when you're staying with her.
- [69:21]
Chris
Yeah, it is. And seeing her, like, the real her, like, outside the village. Know what I mean? But it's cool. Like, like I said, we're really good friends now. There's no, like, awkwardness or, like, tension or. We're not, like, no hatred towards each other. But I feel like now I'm mostly healing just, you know, from being in the villa, getting back to the real world, trying to adjust and stuff like that. I'm just healing from, like, all the emotional drama that I went through, because I don't think I've ever gone through some shit like that ever in my life.
- [69:50]
Huda
So do you have any regrets looking back?
- [69:53]
Chris
Hell, no. I feel like I moved the way I wanted to move in there. I was a really genuine. And how y' all saw me in there is how I am in the real world. So I'm 100 okay with how I. How everything went down.
- [70:03]
Justin
I'm not, like, a Love island historian, but, like, the impact you and Brian had on the show as casa men.
- [70:11]
Chris
Yeah.
- [70:11]
Justin
I don't feel like happens very often.
- [70:13]
Chris
No.
- [70:13]
Justin
You know, and, like, so credit to both of you, just the way, like, you become, you know, I feel like with casa, people were like, all right, they're just gonna some shit up, and then they're all gonna go home.
- [70:21]
Chris
Right.
- [70:22]
Justin
And. And, I mean, you guys were such a big part of the show and.
- [70:26]
Huda
Also such a big part of, like, lifting up the women.
- [70:28]
Chris
Yeah.
- [70:29]
Huda
You know, which.
- [70:30]
Justin
Oh, yeah. Brian, like, the only one who stood up for Amaya during that challenge, it felt like where it was just like. Yeah.
- [70:34]
Chris
And how.
- [70:35]
Justin
Yeah. How did that all go down? Cause it just feels like my interpretation from an outsider who knows how these things work is like, the bully's the household. And what I mean by that is, like, the majority is always, like, everyone's just afraid of standing out and being isolated. So when one was like, I think this and then one other person Chimes in, yeah, me too. Then everyone's like, oh, okay, cool. We. We all think, let's all just dump on this. This situation. Is that kind of how the Amaya thing went down?
- [70:59]
Chris
I think so. A little bit, yeah. And then I feel like I don't even think Brian was, like, interested at that point. He truly was coming in, like, hey, like, you know, just so y' all understand, like, that's some real shit. Like, in the Latin. Latin household, like, saying things like babe and mi amor and all that. It's like, that's real. And so I hats off to him for, like, being, you know, confident enough and brave enough to stand up for her. I think that was some real shit right there. So. But, yeah, I didn't. I didn't like how everybody was ganging up on Amaya because she didn't deserve that. And I feel like just because y' all don't like the way she is or how she talks, that doesn't give you the incentive to be like, oh, like, you're moving too fast, or, we don't with you for that. Like, so what, she wants to call you babe. Like, oh, well, you know, how many people wish, like, the people you know, someone will call them babe, exactly. Like, she's beautiful. Like, you guys are crazy. So I don't know.
- [71:46]
Justin
I just like, who are these guys and what are they? What is their.
- [71:49]
Chris
They tripping. Like, so what does she call you? Baby or my love or that's like a word of endearment. Like, don't take it so seriously. Like, especially, like, if, you know, a mind. She says that. She calls me that, you know, I mean, that's like my sister. You know what I mean? So, like, I don't mind it at all. Like, she. If that's how you are, like, cool with me. I'm not gonna try to change who you are just because I think you try to move too fast or stuff like that. Like, no, that's okay.
- [72:12]
Justin
So anything else you want to leave with or say or, you know, let the people know or get off your chest or. I've really enjoyed getting to know you. This has been really great, man.
- [72:21]
Chris
Thank you, bro. I appreciate you for having me.
- [72:22]
Justin
You definitely didn't disappoint. And you're as dynamic as I think we all assumed, but, you know, it makes me wish we would have saw more of you on Love island, man.
- [72:30]
Chris
For real. But as far as, like, letting people know anything, I don't really have anything specific to say. I just really hope, like, this whole Me not carrying her thing doesn't affect, like, my character because I genuinely did try to help her down and wanted to walk with her, but she wanted to be carried and I just wasn't gonna do that. I didn't think, you know, after establishing what we are, I don't think that's something that a friend would do. I mean, yeah, it's, it's very gentleman, like, I guess you would say. But at the end of the day, like, I did my part with trying to help her, you know what I mean? It would be different if I be like, nah, fuck outta here. Like, let me just get a. Out of here. Like, I, I try to do my part in some type of way. So I don't want people to come at my character or come at me, like, saying that I'm not genuine or I'm not. I didn't act as a, as a gentleman.
- [73:16]
Huda
I think you've shown us more ways than not of you being a gentleman and a kind person and someone with good morals and good values. So I don't think this is something that you should worry about.
- [73:28]
Chris
Thank you. I just hate being judged on that part specifically because I feel like there was so much more that I had done throughout the whole time I was, was there to be like, that one part, oh, he's not a gentleman anymore. He's an asshole. I'm like, damn, that's all it took.
- [73:41]
Huda
Well, maybe you explaining it and adding some context will help, you know?
- [73:44]
Chris
Yeah, for sure.
- [73:44]
Justin
Yeah. I mean, like, that's why we love doing what we do here to like, you know, reality tv. It's like, I don't know, man, we love it. It's, it's, it has this toxic world. We, we love when fans are engaged not only with shows that we watch itself, but our show as well. And it kind of comes with the territory that, like, people, everything's short form, everything's cut and taken out of context.
- [74:05]
Chris
Right.
- [74:06]
Justin
When people have those reactions, it's not really about you or it's a, it's a projection of what they're feeling inside. And obviously your character is going to be defined by how you move.
- [74:15]
Chris
Yeah, for sure.
- [74:15]
Justin
Every day going forward, you know, I mean, yeah. So. But yeah, I, I. Not that my opinion matters, but I feel like you should be proud of how you carried yourself on.
- [74:24]
Chris
Thank you, brother. I appreciate that.
- [74:26]
Justin
And, and whatever people think of you, like your story starts now, you know what I'm saying? Like, now you are in control of your edit, you know what I'm saying? Like, before you signed some and said, all right, I'm gonna be my. I'm gonna do my thing and trust you guys. You really. You really are control your edit. You have your platform now. You'll get opportunities on other people's platforms, and. And people will be able to decide for themselves what they think of you.
- [74:48]
Chris
And.
- [74:48]
Justin
And even then, none of that really matters, but, like, your circle, your people and things like that.
- [74:53]
Chris
Right, Right. For sure. Yeah. Well, we thank you guys for having me. I really enjoyed being here.
- [74:57]
Justin
Oh, it was our pleasure, man. Thanks for coming. Where can people find you? Where can people follow you?
- [75:00]
Chris
Follow me on Instagram. What's my Instagram? Chris. Chris. Cey, underscore 4.
- [75:06]
Justin
We'll put it in the bio for anyone who.
- [75:08]
Chris
Please, please. I'm starting to get active with TikTok. I'm not really, like, a. Not a fan, but, like, I'm not too engaged with it, so I'm still learning how that you can link up.
- [75:17]
Huda
With JD and Zach. See, they're very good at TikTok.
- [75:21]
Chris
I've been seeing. I'm so proud of them for doing that. But, yeah, I for sure plan to, like, collab and, you know, get to the social stuff, but I'm very big on, like, if people see me in person or want to come take a picture, I'm very open to that. I think with me playing overseas and, like, little kids coming up to me and, like, old people, like, wanting to take a picture, like, I was. I'm very big on that because I think of myself. It's like, I've met people in the past that I'd be like, oh, I'm such a big fan. Like, can I get a. Like, just an autograph or just a picture or something like that for my memory? And they'd be like, nah, like, fuck off. Like, watch out. I don't want to be that person. I would never be that person. You know what I mean? So, yeah, if you guys ever see me, like, please feel free to come talk to me, have a chat, take a picture, whatever it is. I'm very open to that. So. Yeah.
- [76:02]
Justin
Oh, yeah, man. All right, Chris, well, appreciate your time again.
- [76:05]
Chris
Yeah, of course, man.
- [76:05]
Justin
Best of luck for everything. Hope we get a chance to interact.
- [76:08]
Huda
In the future and see you on our big screens. Big actor.
- [76:12]
Justin
I'm sure. I'm sure we'll see you soon again, somewhere, somehow.
- [76:15]
Chris
Absolutely. You will, for sure. Thank you.
- [76:17]
Justin
Take care, guys. Thank you guys for listening. Subscribe. Tell your friends all that fun stuff. We'll see you Tomorrow for a lot more Love island and a bunch of other content.
- [76:26]
Huda
One last question.
- [76:27]
Chris
What's up?
- [76:28]
Huda
Throw in the pillow at Hood.
- [76:31]
Justin
I was going to let him off the hook.
- [76:32]
Huda
I just wanted. It was like real quick, was that.
- [76:35]
Justin
One of those like, oh, I'm six, eight and I threw that too hard?
- [76:38]
Chris
Nah, honestly. Honestly, I feel like. Because the reaction everybody gave was like, I mean, yeah, you threw it at her, but it's not like it was a rock or something. That was solid, like it was a pillow, you know what I mean? And that wasn't like full force like I'm a big guy. If I wanted to really throw some a pillow, like, I'mma throw it. So I didn't think I did hit her that hard, which is kind of like, okay, did you just play that.
- [77:03]
Huda
Off or she came back with the nose.
- [77:05]
Chris
Yeah. I'm like, okay, we all thought like, I don't think it was that serious. But I mean, I did apologize and I felt bad that it, you know, it, it did cause her some pain, some hurt.
- [77:17]
Huda
Did you know that she doesn't like dirty hands on her.
- [77:21]
Chris
Oh my God, that killed me. I'm like, girl, like the amount of times you done did that and. But when I do it, it's like.
- [77:29]
Huda
I'm like, okay, were you eating barbecue chips or something?
- [77:31]
Chris
I was eating some salt and vinegar chips. She was like, oh my God, your hands are so, so dirty. I'm like, no, no they're not.
- [77:39]
Justin
Oh, it's funny. You're better off friends.
- [77:42]
Chris
Yeah, for sure. Yeah, for sure.
- [77:59]
Justin
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- [78:07]
Chris
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- [78:09]
Justin
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- [78:17]
Chris
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- [78:18]
Justin
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