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You're crazy.
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What's going on, everybody? Welcome back to another exciting episode of the Vile Files Reality recap edition. I am your host, Nick. I have learned how to say 1000.
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Yep.
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Congratulations.
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You put your tongue on the bottom of your teeth. Bottom teeth. And emphasize the Z speech. Class is working.
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Natalie. Natalie, Natalie. I don't know if that was that hard for you beforehand.
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Well, we welcome all of you to the show. Hope you had a great week and I had a fantastic week. And fall is in the air. The seasons are changing. If you in most parts of this country and the part that we were in, it was a delightful brisky 50 degrees out in the morning and football season is upon us are my Green Bay packers are really, really good. Very exciting. Mary, your Aaron Rodgers look pretty good.
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Yeah, I gotta. I gotta say I. I was a little hesitant. It feels very odd to have Aaron Rodgers be the quarterback of the Pittsburgh Steelers. But not mad at it. Not mad at it whatsoever.
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It's really exciting. I. I'm living my best life. My brewers. I don. Listening cares but I'm excited. My wife watches sports with me. It's really. It's really great. It's one of my favorite things my. One of my two favorite things about Natalie of many, but just one of two again that she. She enjoys. She enjoys spending the time with me. She doesn't fake her interest like she's not one of those who like pretends to be like a major sports fan. But she just enjoys the energy and also the way she can nurse an alcoholic drink is incredible. I made. I made some. We made braised short rib tacos. So I got it all cooked up and to make some braised short ribs, you have you use some wine? So I opened up some wine, poured it in. Natalie decided to feel frisky cleaning the house at, like, noon.
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There's an open bottle of wine.
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Yeah.
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Poured herself a glass of wine. She finished that seven hours later.
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Awesome.
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It was really, really attractive.
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I was also cleaning in between and taking care of a child and, you know, so I didn't really have the time to, like, gulp. But, yes, I do nurse a drink. I do also think some people won't agree with you that fall is in the air. Like, I feel like a lot of people say that fall doesn't start until October.
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Well, in our house, it starts as soon as Natalie goes to Target and buys some Halloween decor, which is all over.
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I went to Home Goods this year because Target had nothing flim pickens and Home Goods. Honestly, like, it's just the place to go for. For holiday decor. First of all, it's, like, not expensive. You know, it's not crazy expensive. Their prices have actually kind of gone up recently. But you can find, like, the fun things for kids. They have, like, you know, Rivers obsessed with cats. And so I could. I found a cat in a witch's hat, and she's like, loves it. She's like, meow, meow. She loves it. And so it was just, like, fun to finally decorate for. I feel like once you become a mom, to decorate for holidays, it's just, like, so much fun.
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Yeah.
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Because you can just, like, go crazy.
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Anyways, my packers looking good, RIP to the Detroit Lions fans out there, I feel like you missed your window. And ladies out there, if. If you're in the Michigan area and you're. If your man or brother or whoever in your life, maybe it's you, I don't know, is a. Is a fan of Detroit Lions. Ask them if they're worried if they miss their window, because I think someone.
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Actually messaged me the last time we did this. I wish I could find her name. If you're listening to this, I'm sorry, but she was like, this did not work. Whenever Nick was like, text your man this. She, like, sent me a screenshot of her texting her boyfriend or husband or partner, whatever. And he literally was like, what are you even saying? Like, shut up. You don't know what you're talking about. And she was like, wait, this backfire.
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She had to sell it. No, he just. He sounds like a dick. He sounds like a dick.
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No, I just don't think he, like, believed that she was, like, committed to the bet.
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Yeah, I feel like he probably thought she heard it. She probably thought she heard it on a podcast.
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He probably was like, what guys have you been hanging out with? Yeah, like, who have you been around? She's like, hey, this backfired. So now he thinks I'm cheating and he broke up with me.
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Who here was a Land Before Time fan?
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I was. Me.
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So sad though.
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Very sad. Very emotional movie. I introduced it to the river last night. She's into it, very excited about it. Tree, stars, the Great Valley. Long necks and three horns. Y.
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Wait. Yep, yep. Wait, what is everyone's favorite dinosaur? Go.
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Triceratops.
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Huge.
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Yep. Probably a triceratops.
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You know, I don't have one.
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I don't know.
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I don't either.
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But I love this.
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I love a brontosaurus. You know that scene in Jurassic park where Laura Dern sees that brontosaurus die? It's very important. Long neck or bronchosaurus? Bronchi. Bronchiosaurus and brontosaurus. Yes.
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Oh my God. Wait, this is reminding me of this crazy TikTok. So I saw this TikTok of this mom sitting with her four year old daughter and the four year old daughter has like a binky in her mouth or something. And the mom is like, since y' all wanted to come for me, for my almost 4 year old, like still having a pacifier and like saying that her speech is gonna be messed up for the rest of her life. Like I'm here to prove to y' all that she speaks better than most 30 year olds. And so then she's like, what's your name? And she starts like interviewing the little girl to like get her to speak for the camera.
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Her daughter.
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And then the. Yeah, her daughter is like getting a little shy, you know, she's not really answering many questions and she's like, don't be shy. No one can see you. Like, this is just a camera. And then she's like, what are your favorite dinosaurs? Triceratops. And the girl like nods her head. She's like, okay, can you say triceratops? And it's just like the most like you shouldn't have post that. Like that did not prove your point at all. And like when the girl did speak and like river has it too, you know, the little binky mouth. I think it's actually kind of cute. The teeth, whatever. Like we're all going to get braces or Invisalign one day. Or veneers, you know.
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Yeah.
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So like, who cares? But she like, definitely, like everyone in the comments is like, no, babe, like her speech is fucked up. Like, it's okay, but, like, what are you doing? Trying to prove your point of, like, it was just the saddest video ever. She's like, coaching her through everything. She's like, okay, now your turn to.
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Say.
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Did you guys see the Karen from Hell at the Philadelphia Marlins game that's gone super viral.
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I just saw that this morning, and I'm like, speaking of backfiring.
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Yeah, yikes.
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I mean, like, this is like, the definition of horrible people out there. Truly, for those of you who don't know or who have been offline this weekend. At a. At a. At a. It was in. It was in Florida. So the Philadelphia Phillies were playing the Florida Marlins. And apparently in Miami, there are some Philadelphia fans and a young family brought their son to the game. Apparently it was birthday, and they were in the outfield hoping to catch a home run, which. Which for any parent or kid out there, like, if you're going to a baseball game, you bring your glove in the hopes that you can catch a fall ball. I've never in my life caught a fall ball as a kid. It was. It's a moment for any kid out there. It's truly a magical moment. Philadelphia Phillies were batting, and wouldn't you know it, they hit a home run. And it, you know, so the rules of. It's like sports etiquette. It's like, it's a. It's. It's a free for. All right? And so this ball lands in the row in front of this Karen. You know, this, like, I don't know how old she was, but north of 50. Cruella de Vil haircut. Had the whole, like, ombre, like, silver on top, black on the bottom. She had the Karen glasses on. The ball lands in front of her. Do we have a video of this, Justin?
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We do.
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In case you're. If you're watching, if you're listening, go and check out the YouTube. Well, you've probably seen it just like, just literally Google Karen. And she's the number one trending Karen online. The ball lands right in front of her plate. And pause it. So now if you see, like, it lands right in front, like, it's. It's. It's not in this woman's row. It's a free for all this. Dad runs over from his seat. Now he had to go about 20ft from his seat. The ball landed closer to Karen's seat than dad seat. Anyways, he got it. He's excited. Press play. He picks it up, gives it to his son. It's his birthday, hugs his son. Karen runs over, grabs the dad. Now pause it. In this moment, I don't know what you're thinking, what you're feeling. Maybe she's mad that another middle aged man stole the ball from her and she thinks he's entitled to it. But in this moment where she sees the dad give the ball to the boy, any human being with half a soul would have been like, you know what? Not my day. You know, happy birthday to this kid. But no, she proceeds to like argue with this guy, get in his face. There's other angles of her just being like, you stole it from me. It's my ball. Like right in front of this little kid. Finally this dad's like, you know what? I don't want to deal with your energy. And he takes the ball from his son and gives it to the Karen who like storms off like fucking like a Gollum from Lord of the Rings. Like she's got the ball anyways. Then like everyone around is booing her. Everyone's just like, knows how horrific this is most of the time. You know, one of the most heartwarming videos out there, and you can find it anywhere, are moments where these balls, home run balls, fall, balls, whatever, a baseball, baseballs go into the stands and like grown men catch the ball and they're excited and then they look around to find a kid and then give it to the kid and like make their day magical. But this fucking Karen is, is so horrific that she just didn't care. And then she starts flipping off people in the stand who are like, lady, you're a horrible, wretched person. And she, like, didn't back down. Meanwhile, now she's the most hated person in America. But don't worry, this little boy, he's okay because like the Marlins, they saw this, they came to him. Someone who worked for the team, they gave him a bunch of baseballs in the Philadelphia Phillies found out about it and the very player who hit the home run, met the kid's entire family, gave a kid a signed bat of baseball. He's since been invited to the World Series by mlb all because of this just wretched person.
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And we just had the dad speak out, right?
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Oh my God, it's just like the way he saw this. Is the kid getting a bag of like, memorabilia from the Marlins. It's just like, oh my God, like, what kind of horrible person do you have to be?
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What did the dad say?
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The dad said, I was already ecstatic, like, got Bader's homerun ball and I Get to put it in my son's glove. And that was. It was already enough, you know? And then. Then here she comes. Something touched my. Something touched my arm. And then she just screamed in my ear, that's my ball. Like, so loud. There's kind of a fork in the road. Like, I'm gonna go one direction and then probably regret or go this direction and do something in front of my kids that, you know, like, a teaching moment. So I guess he was trying to be the biggest.
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Some assholes online were criticizing the dad, but, like, no, I think the dad handled it great. Like, yeah, it was definitely a teachable moment about, like, how not to be wretched, soulless, horrible person.
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Yeah.
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Like, honestly, like, the. It's your.
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Like.
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But the thing that was, like, shocking me is, like, she's there with, we're assuming her husband, you know, a male friend, a male. Someone close to her that she went to this game with, and they're just, like, watching her not even just approach this man and his son who got the ball, but then, like, ghost scream in several other people's faces, and it's like, how are you with that person? I would like the way that I would hold on to Nick's hand and, like, keep him in a seat and be like, don't you dare get up. And the way that he's just like, sure, go yell at them.
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I guess he did this at the Rays game, too.
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Like, I don't think this is her first offense.
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Yeah. Also in a Marlin's game.
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Crazy again.
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I. I. Nick made me. I was trying to read my book the other night, and he made me watch 900 videos of people giving their ball away to the kids.
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And I was like, it's heartwarming.
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He's like, oh, wait, no, this is the one.
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Yeah.
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I'm like, okay, Natalie.
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He wanted to make sure that he was never put in the position where he has to sit there while you steal balls, literally.
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I just, like, don't ever be.
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No. Anytime we watch something or there's a story that comes out of, like, a wife turning crazy, Nick's always like, please don't.
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How do you feel about this behavior? And, like, don't.
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Well, listen, I get, like, all the ladies, you know, you got to have that mama line energy, you know, for the right time. You know, Natalie has it inside of her, and I really appreciate it that it's there. But, like, you know how you need to know how to turn it off this, like, again, I get that.
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No, I would have marched over There and be like, you took my. And then if he was like, if I watched him give it to his son, I would have been like, oh, it's for the kid. Oh, never.
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Well, first of all, baseball etiquette. Like, she just doesn't know. Like, it. She was not entitled to it just because it landed closer to her than anyone else. Hey, you got to be quick on your feet. You got to go get that ball.
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Like, I think she said, you took it out of my hand.
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But he literally didn't. Like, she bent over, and he snatched it from her, and it was. It dropped in the row in front of her.
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Not take it out of her hand.
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It doesn't look like he took it out of her hand. It looked like she was the closest to it. She thought it was hers. It was right there. And then he came and took it before she could grab it.
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There's also, like, multiple people reaching for this ball, which is how it goes. Whoever leaves with it gets it.
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Have you guys Ever seen 30 Rock, anyone?
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Yes.
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This is very Liz Lemon coated. Like, this seems like something that would happen to Tina Fey's Liz Lemon, where she would really try to get that ball, and then she would become the most hated person in the world because of it.
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You think Liz Lemon would have been. It was Liz Lemon a Karen?
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Yes. Yeah.
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Rewatch 30.
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I mean, it's in a very funny way, but she's always getting herself into these situations where she's, like, based on a technicality. I'm in the right. And everyone was like, you suck. That's kind of the thesis of 30 rogue.
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Do y' all think Kyle's mom is okay?
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Yeah. By the way, Kyle's mom, Karen, we love you, and this is not about you.
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Yeah, yeah.
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I saw something kind of funny the other day where Madison lacroix from Southern Charm, she posted a video from her ring camera of the FedEx people. She ordered, like, some huge box, fragile. And she shows them just, like, kicking the box over and just, like, leaving it, like, feet in front of her house. And so she posted about it, and she said FedEx made contact after I unleashed my inner Janet. And I think it's funny. She's taking back Karen and changing it to Janet, like, the Valley.
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Well, did you notice when Katie. When Katie was on our Reality recap last week, she goes, there's another person and didn't name her. And I was like, crazy.
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Damn it, Janet.
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See, I don't think that's. I don't think that's being a Karen or a Janet, whatever you want to call it, like sometimes, you know, like, listen, if you're a solicitor, do not show up at our door. Cause Natalie will destroy you.
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Yeah, I will.
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Yeah. If River's napping, she'll destroy you.
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And unfortunately, one got through the other day and he knocked on the door and I thought it was my brother in law. And so I was like, excited, you know, like ran to the door, opened it, and I was like, oh. And he was like, hey, I'm not here to pitch you. They always say that. And then they continue to pitch you. And I was like, oh, yeah, sorry, we're. And then river escapes through the front door and she's out now she's outside. And I was like, oh, no, sorry. And I, like went to go get river and then she was like running away from me. And so then I was like stuck out there with this solicitor who wouldn't like, stop pitching while I'm like chasing River.
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Do you have home insurance?
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And he's like, the pest control. So, yeah, like, we'll get all the spiders, all the mosquitoes for only $150 a year. And I'm like, oh, that sounds so cool. Like, sure, yeah, come by tomorrow. He's like, all right, is it going to be credit or debit? And I'm like, well, wait a second, I'm not giving you any card info. What? And it was. Yeah. So he caught me.
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Because you don't invade someone's personal space or their home. Sometimes you got to defend your family.
B
And then what I love so much is that our neighborhood has a group chat. And so I got to te the neighborhood. It was finally my turn to text him and say, solicitor coming around about pest control and I can work.
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Neighborhood watch.
E
Yeah.
B
Anyways.
E
Oh, wait, did you guys hear? White Lotus Season 4 location announced and it is France.
D
I can't wait.
A
Okay, it's giving season where?
E
In France somewhere.
A
Probably south of France. You know, he likes a warm climate.
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It says the French Riviera. And I'm sure they'll do some things in the city too.
G
It's always a four seasons, right? So it has to be.
E
It's always a white lot. It's always a white Lotus, Cap de luck or whatever.
D
The big one.
G
They're based on four seasons.
E
I was just kind of continuing the idea of the show, you know, I was in the world.
G
I wonder if Zoe Kravitz and Harry Spells are dating and are planning a vacation to France.
A
Nice. Aren't they in Europe somewhere?
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Canoodling somewhere yeah, probably rich people.
A
She's really on a heater. She's what? She's. She was hanging out with her co star.
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Her roster.
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Channing Tatum, Austin Butler, Harry Styles, Penn Badgley. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Wait, who else, though? My dream date.
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Cute. Wait, let's see.
G
I looked up Zoe Kravitz roster and it showed me her acting position.
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No, we don't care about her acting. Zoe Kravitz. Body count. Let's see.
G
It says Drake asap.
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Rocky, Carl Glassman.
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Chris Pine.
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Chris Pine. Sometimes I just feel like people be putting things online because they were standing next to each other.
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Wait, no, I feel like it's more recent.
G
No, there was someone else that was recent, right?
B
Yeah.
D
Karl Glessman was beautiful. Channing Tatum.
E
Here's the thing. When you're Lenny Kravitz and Lisa Bonet's daughter, she's doing the work of her. Yeah. Like, that's what she should be doing is dating all of these people.
A
What do you think a bad day looks like for her when more than.
G
One man texts her a bad day?
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Honestly, a bad day for her is probably the best show in the world, which was. Hulu's High Fidelity series starring Zoe Kravitz got canceled, and I'm still really sad about it, and I think Hulu should bring it back.
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Michael Fassbender.
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Michael Fassbender.
G
That's a crazy name.
A
He's hot, too.
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Penn Badgley, Chris Pine, Carl Glusman. Channing Tatum and Harry Styles are all the people that she's rumored to have.
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Like.
E
Like. And the thing about Channing Tatum is he got hotter when he started dating, obviously.
B
Yes.
E
Yeah.
G
I respect it. She's hot.
E
It's powerful. Anyway.
D
Yeah, I was like, even Harry Styles looks a little better to me with her.
B
Zoe Kravitz boyfriends list is trending on TikTok.
D
I mean, she's impressive.
E
Yeah.
D
And think about the people that, like, she didn't even actually, like, commit to being out in public with.
B
And she also just, like, looks so, like, obviously these men are hot. Obviously, Zoe Kravitz is hot. But, like, she just looks. Looks so cool all the time. She's on the back of a motorcycle with Channing Tatum. She's like, she's such a cool chick.
E
I know.
A
Do I need a motorcycle?
B
No.
D
No.
A
So I should stick with the roller skates.
B
Yes.
D
We love that for you.
A
Those are my wheels.
B
And, like, Natalie Joy looked so badass on the back of Nick's roller skate.
A
Like, I'm pulling Her?
D
Yeah, you need to be on roller skates and just, like, holding on to Nick's, like, belt.
G
That's kind of cute, though.
E
It is cute. Wait, you guys. If you could be one, like, random famous person for a day, who would it be? I think mine's either Zoe Kravis or Dua Lupia.
G
Dula Peep.
B
Wait, who is my options?
E
Well, those are just my two. If you could be any, like, random. Not even faint. Just like, any random person for a day.
B
I'm Dua Lipa for sure. She's, like, living the, like, wishless lifestyle.
E
Yeah. You're just on vacation and beautiful with a hot boyfriend. Yeah.
A
I'd probably pick Harry Styles. I think, like, the. The excitement of, like, performing on stage and having the crow lose your mind when you come out. I don't think there's very few cooler moments. As someone who knows what it's like to, like, 1% of that. Experiencing 1% of that as, like, the Bachelor. When you, like, walk out into, like, a local crowd and there's 50 people cheering even that's kind of exciting. I couldn't imagine what it would be like to have an entire, like, arena losing your mind as you perform and sing. And people are just like, ah. Like, that's gotta feel pretty cool also.
D
Knowing when you open your mouth that something great's gonna come out, like, sounding.
E
Yeah.
G
Did you guys see the video of Harry Styles to park a car, like, a couple weeks ago? And then he couldn't parallel park it for the fan, so he just gave up.
E
Oh, my God. He's like John Barlow.
G
Yeah.
B
Wait, he was help. He was trying to.
G
They were. They were struggling to parallel park. So then he was like, I got it. Like, I got you. And then he tried to do it and then couldn't do it. And then he's like, well, I tried, and then, like, walked away.
D
Wait, I want to name mine because I want to be either Sarah Jessica Parker for a day because, like, fashion icon and, like, amazing New Yorker and Carrie Bradshaw, or it would be Andy Cohen because, like, hello, I have every Housewives number. I can ask any question I want, and I would know.
G
And he's mega rich and mega rich.
D
Yeah, the whole thing.
A
Any question? He's just more like, hey, do.
B
But, like, I mean, he's also. He's a puppet master, and he's also.
D
Hanging out with Sarah Jessica Barker. But I'm just thinking he could just pick up the phone and be like, hey, da, da, da, da da. And get, like, any answer right then and there versus, like, having to, like, research or watch the show or, like.
B
Get dinner with them or drinks with them. Like you can.
D
Exactly, exactly.
G
He also did a random thing. He did an interview recently where he said that he just takes car rides from anybody. So, like, if he. He can't get a cab in time, he'll just, like, a fam will see him on the street, and he'll be like, well, like, can you take me?
E
And they'll just take him wherever. That's kind of maybe how I started reading Misery, the Stephen King book. I'm like, that's how that starts. Literally. That's okay. Pitch for a reboot of Misery. It's Andy Cohen in someone's car.
D
In a superfan.
E
In a Bravo super fan.
B
If Andy Cohen ever goes missing, I feel like we know he was kidnapped.
E
Do you remember when people would just hitchhike? That's crazy.
G
I did it once.
A
It is crazy. It's even crazier knowing that it was, like. It's actually probably safer to do it now than it was back in the day.
E
I know, but no one does it.
A
Yeah. All the predators are online.
B
Did any of y' all ever try to run away? I know Nick didn't.
E
He was such an angel. One time, I like. I, like, was like, I'm gonna run away. And then I went, like, a block down in my gated neighborhood, and I was like, it's too scary. And then I went back home.
G
I made it to my aunt's house, but she was a snitch, and I love her.
E
I didn't even have a bad day. I just wanted to be, like, dramatic and emo.
B
I let. I ran away, and I, like, went up the street and got tired, so I sat on the curb, and then I had sat in a ant pile.
F
Oh, no.
G
And then you had to go back.
B
Home and be like, mom, there's ants everywhere.
D
I also can confirm that this year that Andy Cohen on Colbert did say that you will accept a ride from a stranger. There have been many times I've been looking for a cab, unsuccessfully, and people have pulled over and said, andy Cohen, where are you going? And I'm like, 23rd Street. And they say, hop in on you.
E
Kathy Bates has one role left in her career, and it's the Misery reboot, starring Andy Cohen and her kidnapped me in Manhattan.
A
Has he ever documented this?
G
Like, no, but I'm sure the fans have. There's gotta be, like, get out alive, you know?
D
Yeah, I bet so many people have, like, dropped him off after the fact and thought to themselves, like, how the fuck did I not take a video? Being like. Cause they're so like, oh my God, this is actually happening.
E
They're driving, right?
D
They're driving. But it's also like this is happening where it's like usually when you see somebody on the street or something, they would like ask for a photo and keep it moving. Where it's like, no, no one's gonna believe that I gave Andy Cohen a ride to work.
G
Also, he's waiting for a cab. Isn't that what Uber Black is for?
E
Andy Cohen doesn't have like a driver, right? Yeah, but New Yorkers are different.
D
Like they love a cab.
E
They're cool.
G
True. I guess.
A
Well, we have a great episode lined up for you. Moments from now, Justin Sylvester will be joining us, returning to the Vile Files to talk all things Bravo, I imagine was at Kyle and Mauricio's daughter's wedding. Alexa.
B
Oh, yeah, probably right.
A
Must have been. There's no way he wasn't invited. He's like Kyle's bestie. Anyways, maybe we'll get some tea about the. The Bravo royal wedding. Really? Plus all we'll get into some Real Housewives of OC and Miami with Justin Sylvester. Also we have joining the show later this episode from the new hit show the Paper we got. Ramona Young joins us to talk about the Paper, the new that's the office spin off. It's really funny. And she is with us to talk about that experience. What it was like to be part of what is sure to be a new hit show on Peacock. That is all coming up. Before we get into that though, they did release the promo of the new Golden Women who will be vying for the heart of the guy who wants to date 40 year olds.
B
I wonder how many of them are 40.
A
We'll see. So now so we get to see all the women that they. That I guess really kind of made it over your mind, Mom.
B
Truly.
E
Yeah. Whoa, whoa.
A
Is this the promo? Yeah. Is this all the women or some of them?
G
I would assume it's all of them because it says meet the women.
A
Meet the women. Okay, here we go.
D
That was so cute.
E
It was really cute.
A
They look great. It looks like a really great cast. What's his name? The Golden Bachelor.
B
Mel.
G
Mel.
A
Mel, Mel.
E
We don't care.
D
Mel Owens.
A
Yeah, Mel Owens.
E
I don't care about him. I'm here for the divas.
A
I mean there's one 58 year old. Most of them seem to be in their 60s. You have a couple early 70s did that on purpose.
B
He's like, I won't date anyone if they're over than 60. They're cut.
A
Andra.
B
Okay, Well, I love her.
D
Any favorites off the. Off that video?
G
I mean, my favorite part about the Golden Woman is that I feel like they know who they are.
F
Yeah.
G
It's like they come in being like, I can defuse a bomb versus, like, when you watch normal Bachelor, it's like a girl being like, you know, I love a man that does this.
B
Like, I love gummy bears.
A
Yeah.
G
Like, they're, like, more cutesy and, like. But the golden women are coming with, like, I know who I am.
D
I have life experience. I have done shit. I am not scared of this.
E
I feel like the golden, like, golden Bachelorette didn't really land as much for me because, like, the beauty of the golden franchise is just watching, like, a lot of older women just, like, live their lives and become friends. And that's what I loved about the first season of Golden Bachelor. I was like, I don't care about. What was his name?
B
Carrie.
G
I also just love a mom.
A
Well, it looks like some great women. We'll see how they interact with Mel. I'm really curious how it's. I mean, I just, like, I can't believe they didn't replace them, to be honest with you.
B
It's kind of crazy that, like, the only thing that came about that was him. Didn't he have some, like, PR statement and that was like, it.
A
Did he? I don't even think he did that.
B
I mean, there was something that came out, whether it was from Bachelor or from him.
A
Jesse Palmer made a comment about, like, well, I'll definitely have to talk to him about it when we start filming. So they're like. Which is almost even dumber to awkwardly address it. I don't know how you also like his. I mean, his ex wife's, like, my age who. Who said, like, good luck. I don't want anything part. Any part of it. It. It's just a weird, you know, for. For this franchise. It's just a weird casting. But the women look great. They seem great. Excited to see how they come across on end of September. So we'll see how that goes Coming up next. Justin Sylvester returns of the show to talk about all things Bravo. I'm assuming he was in attendance at Alexia Omanski's, the daughter of Kyle and Mauricio, who got married, I think, over the weekend or recently. It's certainly a Bravo royal wedding, and we're excited to hear about that pl to the Real Housewives of OC and Miami with Justin. Following our dynamic interview with Katie that was well received by Bravo Nation. I think she really acquitted herself quite well and I think she's raised a lot of questions about the rest of her cast. We'll get into all that and more with Justin coming up next.
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F
Thank you. Thank you for having me back.
A
No need to thank us. Thank you for coming back. You're always a delight.
F
By the way, I thought you only had like white ladies from Hulu on here. Now. I thought you were like exclusively white ladies from Hulu. I keep on seeing them pop up here. Here.
B
Well, we do love them as well.
A
We. We love them as well. Yeah.
E
And they feel safe.
F
Our heart is big.
A
But now, now we. We. Now we are a Netflix family now. Natalie and I are host of the new Netflix Age of Attraction. Age of Attraction. So stop. We got stole. Yeah.
F
Shut up.
E
Yeah, yeah.
A
But we got. We got. We got networks fighting for us and Netflix took over.
B
Netflix one.
A
Yeah. Netflix won.
F
I can't wait for like Hulu to get in the gay game. Like, it is going to be when Hulu realizes that a gay black man could ask any question he wants to anyone at any time, at any place. Because that's why Wendy Williams really worked. She was a gay man. And you can't really go after a gay man. How are you doing exactly?
B
It's true.
F
Exactly.
E
Clap if you think she should suffer.
F
Exactly.
B
Sometimes I want to ask a question and I'm scared. So I'm like, Justin, ask this 100%.
F
I'm telling you, that's why we're here. We are here to ask the questions you guys don't want.
B
Y' all are un. Cancelable.
F
We really are. We've been through too much.
B
Y' all have. The trauma's real.
A
Trauma is real. I don't know if we could get rid of away with that bit that there's like a slightly uncomfortable question. You're like, all right, all right. Justin, can you just come in here, please, and just.
F
Yeah, 1,000%. I mean, listen, that's how I started my career. I think I got all of the interviews that I wanted when I first started working at either because people were afraid to ask questions. And there is a finesse to fucking getting into people's business.
E
Okay.
F
Like, you have to finesse it. You gotta smooth it over. And I think women, especially actresses, felt really comfortable with me because they had gay hairdressers, they had gay makeup artists, they had the gays in the. In the arsenal. So they were used to, you know, us, nosy, trying to clock it, gay. And that's really how I got my jump off.
B
And he has a stop.
A
Yeah, I just ask the questions anyways and then I just stay offline. Don't take the heat.
F
Smart. It's really smart.
A
Yeah, it's like if they're saying something, I don't know.
F
It's so interesting because when I watch these reunion shows and I gotta give hats off to you, I watched Mormon Wise Reunion and it's a hard job to do, hosting a reunion.
A
It is, yeah.
F
But I was like, fuck, he is moving this shit along like it is happening. We are going there. Oh, shit. The one thing I wish you had done better was fucking ride Macy's ass for five more seconds.
A
Macy or Whitney?
F
Oh, no, not Macy. No. Who's the one who hates Whitney?
E
Mikayla.
G
No, I love Mikayla. Don't.
A
I did.
F
I just wanted you to ride her for like five more minutes.
A
It just didn't make the end.
F
It. Okay. I need the uncut version.
A
Sadly, though, I won't be hosting the season three reunion. I'm sad because I love those women. I love that show and it was great to be a part of it. But working with my wife, with Netflix, you know, they.
B
He chose me over the lives of Mormon wives.
F
Now, how is it working together?
B
I mean, we do it here, so it's like so much fun to just like continue it. And obviously this is like a bigger. I mean, it's Netflix. It's like I've never been on a real set like that before. Like, that was so cool. And having them, like, you know, like talk in your ear and give you lines and you're like talking the same time they're speaking to you. It's a crazy way to do things. It was so much fun. It was so cool. The show is gonna be so good, Justin. You're gonna be obsessed.
F
Oh, I'm into this shit. Cause, you know, like, when I was, you know, your age, like, if a man wasn't 47 plus, I wasn't checking for him. Like, I liked a young. I liked an older man when I was younger. I didn't mind it.
B
Where are you at now?
F
Are you.
D
I was gonna say, what about now?
F
You know what no, no, not as old. I feel like my daddy issues. You know what I mean? I'm not chronically, you know, full of daddy issues.
A
Well, now you've matured. And now, like, you, you know, you.
E
You.
A
You are the adult.
F
Yeah, I'm an uncle. I'm an uncle.
B
Yeah.
E
At this point, you can heal someone else's daddy issues.
A
I just love. I just. Like, I always say this, I just think Natalie's a star, so I just think she's being discovered. I'm just along for the ride. I'm hoping to set off into the sunset, you know, just, you know, know and have. Have Natalie take over when I'm too old to do this shit.
F
And by the way, once you're in with a network, you're in. So Natalie, don't get comfortable because they gonna be working your ass to the bone.
B
Just know that, you know, I have a child to pay for. And she has expensive taste. She's really expensive.
A
And by she has expensive taste, it means like, now he uses river and his excuse to buy things. She's always like, now he's always looking around the house like, what corner?
B
I'm like, river would love, like, a nice armoire right here. You know, like.
F
Oh, you're a pack rat.
B
No, I am not a pack rat. I am a collectible.
F
Okay, so you're a pack rat.
B
I like to collect.
F
Isn't it so funny? Are you a minimalist, Nick? Because I feel like, yeah, this is very minimalistic.
A
If I haven't. If I haven't used it, I'm not sentimental. Stuff is stuff. And if I haven't used it in five days, get the out of it.
F
I like that.
B
Street men are so I'm a curator.
F
Meanwhile, there's still that, like, shampoo bottle that you might use that Olaplex that you had from like nine years ago when you dyed your hair that you might use again in case you get highlights so you don't want to throw it away even though it's a curdling on the side.
B
So true. So true. Wait, Justin, I hear you've been tracking Brooks Naders relationships. And like, as have I. Bitch, I.
F
Should be Brooks Nader's OB gyn. The way I know about this bitch's life right now is wild. I just love a pretty bitch who curses.
E
Yeah.
B
Yeah, me too.
F
Like Jennifer Lopez.
E
Yeah.
F
If you ever in your life get a chance. When she drops an F bomb, I ovulate. And she does it. She does it very slyly. It happens once a year. It's at Groundhog's Day. If you're there when she says the F word, it fucking sets me off.
D
The rest of your year is great.
F
100%. I know it's gonna be a good year.
E
It's like the one F bomb you get in a PG13 movie.
A
Exactly.
E
So good.
A
Now, are you only aware of Brooks's public roster, or do you know her private roster? Cause it's impressive.
F
I don't. I don't think I could know the private roster because I would become obsessed with it.
A
It's pretty good, Justin. It's pretty good. It's.
F
You know, we're from the same city.
B
Wait, y' all grew up in the same city?
F
She grew up 30 minutes away from where I grew up.
A
Oh, really?
F
But I went to college in Baton Rouge at lsu, and she and I have mutual friends. So every Christmas for years, I would see her at our mutual friend's house, and we would always hang out. Out. And she's a doll.
A
She's in the big leagues.
B
Really? Big league.
A
Yeah.
F
I really hope she gets Victoria's Secret. Ooh, that would really set her off.
E
Yeah.
B
Yeah.
F
If she's in that fashion show, if they're smart. This girl is, like, she needs. Not above playing the game. Like, no, no, no.
A
Yeah, she's great.
F
That's what I like about her. I like that she knows that there's this public interest about her that she is, like. Like, B. About to be A, and she is willing to do whatever the fuck it takes to get to A and stay there, and she will do it. And if Victoria's Secret. Smart, they'll put her in that fashion show, and they'll use that to their advantage.
B
She. She deserves her wings.
F
I really do think so. I mean, it would be a. It would be a good mark for her. She did Si. She did Maxim, and now she's doing this. I don't think we've seen a supermodel. I'm gonna call her super. Like, I've not seen a super light model do this, like, personality thing since, like, a Tyra or when Heidi Klum started being more personality and putting herself out there. And I think we need it because, like, I don't know what Gigi Hadid's voice sounds like anymore. I don't know if Bella could even, like, you know, I don't even know.
D
And even to be fair, I think they got their kickstarts because we got to see them on reality television. Inspiring, too.
A
And then we're like, let's follow. Yeah.
F
OG reality tv.
E
Yeah.
F
Oh, yeah. Eat an almond, baby.
D
You can't have cake. You have a shoot. Eat an almond. I'm gonna pass out, Mom.
E
Oh, my God. I'm on their first season on Beverly. Like, I'm watching all the Beverly Hills right now and I'm like on the first season with Yolanda and it's so insane to see the Hadids as baby girls. It's a beautiful, beautiful moment.
B
Justin, did you watch Love Thy nator?
F
I know I am. I'm stuck in it.
B
What do you think of the sisters?
F
I like the one who's like, Kourtney, the youngest one is like very dry and doesn't give a fuck.
E
Yeah.
F
Listen, I know this show has like zero nutritional value. Like, I get it. But at the end of the day, I just want to watch the four of them fucking fight about a dude who their sister, you know, like, it's the same shit, but I love it. It's like an easy watch.
D
Yes, but that's what I'm saying. I feel like reality TV kind of has to go back there because it's like even the Kardashians, like, we didn't know what we were watching when it started, but somehow you're just fascinate by like an actual day to day life versus, like. All right, here's the storyline for this episode and then we're gonna go into the next one. It's like, no, I just wanna see.
F
You live your lives 100%.
D
Yeah.
F
And that's what people do on YouTube all the time.
B
I saw a TikTok of someone talking about the whole like, Gleb, the Uber, the car and the Uber and her going through the text and like finding out that he was cheating on her, having threesomes and Joshua Tree. Joshua Tree, whatever it was.
F
Of all places.
B
Of all places. Joshua Tree in the dirt, in the sand.
F
Exactly. That's what I was thinking.
B
But they were like, how did he get on the plane if he didn't have his phone? Like, how did he board?
F
That's hilarious that this generation has no idea that you can go to a kiosk and put in your fucking confirmation number. Like, this is why I fucking hate Gen Z sometimes. I'm really sorry.
B
I wouldn't know his confirmation number if he didn't have it in his phone.
F
Bitch, you could. You have to go with an ID anyway. You scan your ID at the goddamn kiosk and you get on the plane. Okay.
D
Or crazier concept, you go to the desk and talk to someone.
F
Oh, my God, talk to someone. Are you fucking serious? You have to talk to somebody.
B
Can I just text him? I don't know. Yeah.
F
By the way, I'm guessing that Nick is the parent who has the passports, the itineraries, and all the immunization forms in his backyard.
B
Oh, hell fucking no. This man forgets everything all the time. Loses his shit constantly.
A
I will say that what makes Natalie and I work really well is like, I think together as a combo, make a really good trad wife.
B
Yeah, good. Yes.
A
Like, I. I'm so good at ironing. I'm. I'm a whiz in the kitchen. Nally married a gourmet chef. I don't do laundry. I don't clean, I don't pick up after myself, but I am really good in the kitchen.
B
He doesn't wipe his ass. I do that too.
A
No, that's gross.
F
Honey, get him a toto.
A
I change diapers sometime. Put river down for nap. I like, I take care of Natalie so Natalie can take care of River.
F
By the way, I'm not. I'm not mad at that.
B
No, not at all.
F
If a man is giving 25%, I will take it. It sounds like you're giving 50, but I tell all my girlfriends, if your man's given 20 to 25, take it and run. Because I have some friends who's. I'm like, girl, I don't know how you're doing this right now.
D
My favorite thing is it's like so many people are in relationships don't know that they're single.
F
Literally, that part.
D
They're literally doing everything. And they're like little passenger princesses.
E
Like, oh, wait, you want me to get a door for you?
A
It's. It's my famous ass Nick line. He wants a girlfriend but doesn't want to be a boyfriend. You know?
F
There you go.
B
Speaking of relationships, what were you doing on Saturday?
F
I went to a wedding.
A
Yeah, we thought so.
F
I went to a wedding.
B
Whose wedding?
F
Oh, my God. So Kyle Richards, who's one of my best friends, worked for her as an assistant for five years. Her second oldest daughter got married and it was wild.
B
Was it?
A
Yeah, it was kind of like a Bravo royal wedding.
F
It seemed like it really was. You know, they. Those girls have grown up on tv and I think people are just really excited to see them have happy endings. I mean, I gotta tell you, I don't know how you guys are gonna do this in, you know, 20, 30 years, but I cried like a baby. I pre cried when I know I'm Gonna be a mess. I like to get it out first, so I make, like, a nice little playlist. I go to the gym, I run on the treadmill, and I let it out. And the. Thank God, the maintenance guy at Equinox, like, literally took me aside and asked me if I was gonna be okay, should he call somebody for me. Cuz, you know, I've known her since she was 13 years old, and she was just a beautiful bride, and I'm so happy.
E
That's so sweet.
F
Yeah, she's dated the guy since she was, like, you know, 20. They've known each other since they were in third grade. It's really wild.
B
Can you, like, maybe, like, drop some, like, who was there?
F
Oh, you've seen it in People magazine. You know, Lisa Rinna was there. Erica Jane was there. You had some of the Love island people there. It was a nice little time.
A
Love island people. What, did Erica wear a certain kind of earrings?
F
No, she did not. She looked hot, though.
E
She always looked hot. Hot.
F
She looked hot.
A
What Love island people were there?
F
I don't know. I just heard chirping. I got drunk. I'm not going to lie. I was up right before they, like, stepped on that glass. Mama was having a cocktail. So I was three sheets to the goddamn wind by the time, like, I got to the reception.
D
That's why you were crying so much?
F
Babbling like a fool.
A
No idea what's going on with this beautiful babbling, Justin. I'm assuming you're watching O.C. correct.
F
I'm watching O.C.
A
We recently had Katie on the show, and it made some waves. She's making waves. I'm like, what are you making of this whole season? What seems to be the entire cast trying to take down Katie.
B
Are you friends with Kiki mo'?
A
Nique? Yeah. Do you?
F
No. I don't know who Kiki mo' Nique is, by the way.
A
Okay.
F
I just got introduced to Kiki mo' Nique recently. From the show?
A
From the show. Okay. But what are you making of this season? We thought Katie really came on and answered all of our burning questions, and I think she answered them quite well, where she made a lot of sense, where it really seems like the rest of the cast is trying to take her down. The most recent episode, we. We were on top of it before it got revealed in the episode. But Justin, being the Bravo historian that he is, knew that this lie detector test seemed to be a bit fraudulent from the get, and that this person has been, you know, he's a. He's A pay for play type of person person. Katie also, I don't know if she got tipped off, but she mentioned in the interview and it really didn't seem like it registered with Jen, you know, when she was trying to like, explain. Katie was trying to explain to Jen that like, hey, they hired a paid actor.
F
Yeah.
A
And then Heather's response was like, oh, well, Terry's also on tv, but he's also a plastic surgeon. As if that somehow made the lie detector test more valid. Quite get that comparison. But anyways, what are you making of this whole. Whole scenario? Are you team Katie? Are you team the rest of the women? Like, what's your take on all this?
F
What I think happened was Gretchen was talking shit about Tamara to Katie, said, oh my God, at the naked wasted party, like, I should have went to the hospital. And you know, somebody was like, why? And she was like, I probably was drugged. And she didn't say A plus B, you know, equals C. She probably said A plus D. And they filled in the, in the. The middle part and Katie strung it together.
D
But there was that clip of Gretchen in the back seat telling Tamara to.
C
Her that she went to.
F
That she did go to the hospital.
D
So that's why I was like, maybe she did say, and I went to the hospital after.
F
Exactly. But apparently she forgot that she fell asleep at Gretchen at Tam's house that night. So I think something was said at that table. I think Katie went to jail, Jen to get that backup. And Jen didn't give it to her because Jen doesn't want to be on the other side of Tamra. What happens, I think with somebody like Katie is you have to have at least one person that has your back. And unfortunately for her, no one was there for her. Jen was supposed to be that person and Jen was not that person person. Also, Katie kind of repeated something, but that's the game. It's Housewives. She repeated something that she heard. And now people are trying to, I think, protect Tamra. Because, you know, we've seen in. In the past, if you say that someone tried to drug someone else, it's a Phaedra park situation.
E
Yeah.
F
So I think that Katie was like, someone help me out here. And everyone was like, we don't want to touch that. But a timber, right?
A
Yeah. But now you also have Tamara seemingly coming to Katie's defense in the comments. So what do you make of all that?
F
I think Tamara's smart. I think Tamara knows that when they get to that reunion, she's looking at everybody on that couch and she's like, all right, I do have Heather Dubrow, but this girl is the lowest man on the toen pole for any housewife. If you want to get in on the action, you have to kind of sort of defend that one person. Like you could either say, because they will defend you back at the same time. So you always make a little bit of an alliance there. And I think Tamara and Gretchen, no matter how they're skipping on the beach, no matter how much they said they're gonna put it behind them, those two are out for blood.
B
Thank you.
F
No matter what, those two are out for fucking blood.
D
We watched this for like nine years straight and like we're still not learning our lesson.
F
No, bitch. This was a 13 year. Somebody is a Scorpio in there.
E
Yeah.
F
Cause this vendetta goes back to 1990 motherfucking now. Okay, that's some good shit there. So I think what's going to happen, Tamara is aligning herself with Katie because Tamara's going to go for Gretchen and all the flip flopping that Gretchen has done over the season.
B
Do you like the addition of Gretchen bringing her back this season?
F
I fucking love it.
D
Yes.
F
I also think that I. Gretchen needs at least two seasons to warm up. She was thrown back into this group. She didn't know her place. She was afraid to get in there and go head to head with Tamara. I think most housewives need at least two seasons because the first season you're like, holy shit, that happened. And then you watch it back and you're ready.
E
Yep.
F
You understand.
D
You come in second, Second season, probably with a little glow up too. And you're like, ready to battle.
F
Oh, no, no. You get a hair and makeup scene. You know, you've read the Twitter, the stylist, the stylist, all the things. But a lot of housewives do things. Things for the audience, you know, they don't want to piss the audience off too much. They don't want to be the villain. But sometimes, like, I'll take this, I'll say this. If you watch the scene on the, on the beach, Gretchen says to Tamara, yo, you brought Joe here to piss me the fuck off, Right? That's low hanging fruit. All Tamara had to say was, you know what? Maybe you're right. Maybe I. Maybe, yes. I'm sorry. I'm human. Yeah, I wanted to piss you off. I shouldn't have done that. Sometimes you just got to take accountability for something.
B
Right?
F
You know what I mean? And it's hard for them because they get. They're Afraid of that edit. They're afraid of what people are going to say about them. But I think Gretchen coming will come back next season and she'll come back harder.
A
Do you think there's any concern for Katie to return? We. We had her on. She says she definitely wants to come back. She definitely. She seemed to make it clear that if she's not there, it is not because she decided not to come back.
F
We need Katie. Yes, you need crazy. You know what I mean? You need somebody who is so. And we haven't had that in a very long time having somebody who splits the audience in two because as you said, you believe everything that Katie says. There is somebody down the street who probably does not like you need that divisive character on a show.
A
It's really hard to say. I mean, I think when we had her on at first it seemed like definitely watching it to me it seemed like Katie's a bit of a gossip. Maybe she tells a white lie here or there. But then when we had her on, I thought she was very articulate, very decisive with her responses. And it. I don't think she's any more of a liar than any of these other women. After talking to her, I think it's all semantics and I think Katie really has her version and the other women have theirs. But the way. The way the rest of the women are painting her out to be this compulsive liar who just has a laundry list of lies. I. I just that I don't by. And I think it's just very convoluted and the way they're being. The way they're teaming up on Katie. I mean, again, like it's we. We know now. I think we. I feel confident saying Heather definitely called the paparazzi on herself and that's fine.
D
Yeah.
F
But like at Disneyland, you think Heather called the paparazzi at Disneyland?
A
I think. I think she calls the pop on her. I think she's definitely capable of calm them. Yeah.
E
Maybe Terry called. No one thought that Terry might have called.
F
Here's the jam in la if you want to be seen. You know the three places to go?
A
Sure.
F
Craig, Giorgio, Baldi. Craig's catch. It used to be Catch. It used to.
A
Sometimes Jones.
F
Yeah, sometimes Jones people know the places to go. I don't think you're calling the paparazzi to come to, you know, Disney World to pay that 300.
A
And Katie just made that up out of thin air.
F
I think somebody said it to Katie and then Katie ingest and then Katie.
B
Repeated it well, did y' all hear that Teddy Mallencamp said that Sheena Shay was the one that told Kiki Monique about Gretchen being drugged?
F
Oh, Sheena's upset.
B
That's a plot twist, right?
F
Okay, but hold on.
A
On.
F
This is for the ladies out there. Did anyone see Gina's ex husband?
D
No.
F
The one who had the heart attack. Hot.
B
Hot.
F
No wonder Gina has six kids for that man. Thank you, Natalie. Thank you. I didn't think Gina could do it.
B
Yeah.
D
Oh, yeah.
A
Well, she.
F
Anymore.
E
Yeah, bro.
F
I'm like, holy. Gina, bag that.
B
What the.
F
Gina, come over.
B
Let's. Why don't you lead with that?
F
Why didn't you start with that?
G
Oh, he's fine.
E
Yeah, he was really cute.
A
How would you feel? Would you want. If you got divorced and your partner remarried, would you want them to look like you or nothing like you?
C
Nothing like, I.
F
You know what I need? If they could just be one, I would love to be, you know, Hey, I want to like your partner. Just make sure she's just one below me. Like, yes. You know what I mean?
E
Yeah. Like, if I'm not quiet as hot. Yeah.
F
Like, if I'm an la. Like, seven, can you make her six?
D
If you want to stay on good terms during co parenting, Please, please.
B
It's like. Or if she's hot, like, make her have bad style. Make her, like, something dumb as a door now.
A
And isn't this the. Isn't this the woman who's kind of made her life kind of a living? No, that's her boyfriend's partner. Yeah. Okay.
D
And I'm sorry, but I kind of find it a little creepy when people have a bunch of exes that look exactly the same.
E
Yeah.
D
I'm like, try something different.
F
Yeah, it's weird.
D
It's the reason why it doesn't work out.
F
It is kind of weird. You know what I mean?
B
Yeah.
D
Have some range, right?
B
Some people have a type, Nick.
F
Let's talk about that. Let's talk about that.
E
He is a very picky eater in general, too, right? So he has the specific things he. He enjoys.
F
You know, I. I often say this about celebrities. They get into this thing where they date almost the same type of person in the same situation, and it never works out. And the minute they take a step outside of their comfort zone, they find the love of their lives.
B
Right?
F
Like, I'm watching Zoe Kravitz fucking date all these actors, and I'm like, girl, it's never gonna motherfucking work. Like, you cannot date another man who wants to Fit in your jeans.
B
So you don't think her and Harry Styles are in game?
F
No, they're not in game. She can't end game with that. He dated her friend whose house she was staying at.
E
That's so true.
B
That's so true.
D
Who's the friend?
B
Taylor.
F
Taylor Swift.
D
Oh, my God. She was staying at Taylor Swift's house.
A
Yes.
D
Sleeping with her ex boyfriend.
C
Exactly.
E
Yeah.
D
I agree.
B
Iconic.
E
Oh, God.
A
When did Taylor and Harry's date?
B
Oh, my God.
F
You've got that James Dean. She wrote her whole song about it.
E
Yeah. There's a rumor that they like committed vehicular manslaughter together. It's not true.
F
What dark web you are on.
E
It was like. It's a. It's one of like the crazy Swifty conspiracy theories. That style is about a hit and run.
F
Holy.
G
That was crazy.
F
Wow.
E
The Swifties will know what I'm talking about.
B
I don't think they will. Will, actually. I don't think they'll like that.
E
Guys in the audience, please.
A
You're really feeling loose with Justin sitting next to you.
B
I'm like, I don't want to be here.
F
Cut me out of this episode.
E
Oh, my God. Sorry, I went too dark.
F
I'm trying to get invited to the wedding. Literally. I did not say that. I've gotten in trouble so many times for other people saying, shit, I am not taking this one for you.
E
He did not say that. I said that. I said that.
F
It was this white lady here. It's so crazy. I have a. I'm doing a podcast now called the Yesterdays.
B
Oh, period.
F
And I have a podcast co host. His name is Blakely Thornton. And he's got no filter and he has no parent company and he got nobody to lose. Nothing to lose. And that fucking tongue is loose. And every week I'm like, I get a text. I'm like, here it is. Here's my weekly text. Because I also don't want to cut things out or say, oh, you can't say that because this is his platform too.
B
Right.
F
And he does make sense on some.
A
Of the shit, but man, really testing those boundaries.
F
The customer care I'm doing right now for this podcast is crazy.
D
And disclaimer added. That is not my thoughts. I do not share said sentiments.
F
I said, every time, keep it rolling. I'm like, that did not. Wrong. Black eye.
A
Yeah, I forget on oc, what was the procedure that Gretchen and was it Gina, the thing in the butt that's supposed to give him, what, pellets? What was that?
D
Testosterone.
F
Testosterone. You can get any kind of like, let's say you're taking testosterone. Trt. You know, most men take it when they get over 45 or 50.
A
Not me. I just got my blood work done and my testosterone is high, apparently.
F
I'm sure you have a 25 year old wife. It better be popping 27.
A
She's 27.
B
I'm 27.
F
Now you can put the testosterone in a picture pellet that releases every day for you.
A
Oh, damn.
B
And it makes your ass big.
F
No, no, you just, you know, put the testosterone in there instead of taking the shot every day.
A
Have you done this?
F
No, not yet, but I will. I'm. Yeah, I'm big on vitamins and we.
B
Love our vitamins and minerals.
D
Yeah, it's for postmenopausal women. It helps with, like, their exercise, their metabolism, balancing their diet and sleep. So it's like when our levels are low, that's when we're all like, I'm reading from the Internet as to why one would take testosterone with women.
F
I stand with women.
E
Women's stories matter.
F
I don't care if Holland Taylor sitting right next to me. I don't know shit about menopause. Okay. Ruth Bader Ginsburg. I. I don't know if you went through menopause. I don't. I don't care. I don't care. I'm not asking that question.
E
You would offer them a pad if they need it?
F
I would have a tampon. Ready?
E
Yes.
B
Wait, speaking of menopause, are you watching Real Housewives of Miami?
E
Yes.
F
Miami's kind of sort of, I hate to say it, one of my favorites.
D
Yes. It's my second favorite to Salt Lake City.
F
Miami fucks it up every time.
B
Why?
F
And you know what? The friends are in there too. I think it's cause Miami's like a whole nother world we don't know shit about. And like, things that go on in Miami we don't know the ins and outs of. And there's also like those crazy accents, like, and the Latin heat and all.
D
The weird stuff, though, is like, so normal to them. And I'm like, okay, so we do what now?
F
No, no, it's like the first time. Like, I remember vividly watching Real Housewives of New Jersey. And they're sitting on like, this couch. I can remember it. And the whole time it was like, your mother's a whore, your daughter's gonna be a fucking prostitute, your husband's gay. And no one would get upset. And Theresa was like, go scratch. And then it was like you said, go scratch. Like, it was like, I didn't understand it, but apparently in New Jersey, if you tell somebody to go scratch, that's it, final straw. Like, you're fucking done.
D
Yes.
F
Like, I'm like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
D
I don't understand the language.
F
I don't understand it, but I love it.
D
I'm here for it.
A
Yeah, no, that is. That is how I feel when I watch Miami. I'll be halfway through an episode. I'm like, I'm not entirely sure what I'm watching.
F
Do you like Stephanie?
B
I feel like at this point, we need to make her Jet a friend of or an original housemate. I mean, it's like insane how much that bitch gets brought up.
F
Jet should be a full time fucking friend.
B
That jet should have a. What does Miami have a seashell?
D
No, I'm pretty positive it's a margarita. It's either margarita or a martini.
A
I'm glad she brought her other. Give the jet a Martin stand on.
F
No, I really love it, by the way. I feel like Stephanie knows exactly what's happening. She's like, I'm gonna go for Alexia. Everyone seems to be scared of her. I'm the HBIC in my life. But then she started crying like a punk bitch on that. On that trip. But I liked it. I liked the other side of her.
A
Like, girl, there's no safe space. No safe spaces here. And she's like, this is my space. And she was like, what Face space? This is housewife.
E
Yeah, my favorite part was when they split them up and then. And Stephanie is being her alter ego, Nautical Steph. And she's like, well, I'm Nautical Steph. And Marisol's just like, well, don't do drugs. And she just keeps saying like, no drugs.
A
Should we. Should we read the rapid recaps before we. We break any more down?
B
Sure. Well, if you missed this past episode of the Real Housewives of Miami, here is your rapid reaction recap. We meet Stephanie Sojay's alter ego, nautical staff and Julia's alter ego, Judy Garland performing the Trolley Song. Kiki's dad helped her out with her family stuff and they're moving forward together. Lisa is in her Nicole Kidman in that one photo after she left Tom Cruise era, divorced but low key. Her finger feels bare and she lets Jody know this. Stephanie Sojay is friends with Anastasia from Setting Spray fame. She's also in her struggling standup era and working on her delivery. But anyway, the girls get rocking on Richard the Virgin Airlines guys. Cruz. Adriana is having that girl moment when it's your birthday, so therefore you want to die. Gertie is so best friends to her about it though, and it's so cutie.com but everyone still hates each other, so they get split up. Marisol tells Stephanie so J no drugs. Lisa is on time for the first time in her life and tries to talk shit not on girly pop. Larsa does a bunch of shots and flashes the girls on FaceTime. And it's honestly cute. Marisol tells nautical staff's twin sister Jane Fonda workout tape Steph that she's not a safe space for her, but they're maybe going to have a new start. However, it doesn't look like it's going to go so well.
A
That lunch with Kiki's dad was kind of dark. It always blows my mind when a housewife brings like a parent or like a relative to talk about some dark past trauma. And I just can't get past knowing that, like the ambush, which her dad called out, like, how many cameras are around and why are we talking about this right here, right now? It always just blows my mind when they go really dark and really deep on childhood traumas. It just, I don't know, it blows my mind.
F
It's. I think it's crazy because we always see her, her so jovial and having a good time and you know, she's a friend, so she shows up when she wants and like she's in hair and makeup and she's always so positive. And then what happens is that person kind of throws something out, out of left field, which she did when they were in Spain. And then you have the follow up to that. You know what I mean? Like, but the, the story wasn't like there wasn't like a slow roll to it. It was like, this is actually happening in her life and, and her dad's there, so let's talk about it. But it is kind of jarring. What's also jarring is that baby girl told Jodie she's ready to get married again.
E
That was crazy.
D
The ink isn't even dry on the divorce papers.
F
The papers hadn't even been delivered.
E
No.
B
Yeah.
F
Like I would be like, wait, his face.
D
I was gonna say his reaction was perfect. The man was lost for words. He was like, okay, yeah, you do like being a misses, don't you?
F
It looks crazy. It was wild.
E
In the same breath of I don't think I'm ready to feel married again. But my finger does feel really Bare.
F
As she wears her ring that Lenny gave her. Yes.
B
Yes. I will say I've never thought twice about being a miss or a Mrs.
A
Yeah, I forgot that that was a thing. Honestly, like, watching this episode reminded me that, like, there's a difference between Ms. And Mrs. Have you ever been referred to as a Mrs. Ever?
E
Yeah.
B
From the South. So. Yeah.
A
Mrs. Miss. You're an Mrs. Yeah, you're an Mrs.
F
You're Mrs. Do you watch Gilded Age?
B
Yes.
E
Yes.
F
Here's the thing. I think the Gilded Age is Miami, but in different costumes.
E
Yeah.
F
Because if you think about it, those women are in their 40s and 50s, and we're talking about being divorcees, and we're talking about not feeling like, oh, I'm a whole woman, because no one wants to marry me. Adriana's going through it. Lisa's going through it already. The only person who is divorced and not going through. And actually Alexi is going through it. She didn't want to let Todd go because she doesn't. Yeah, she did not. She does not want to be single.
B
Yeah.
F
The only person that's enjoying single life is fudgeing Larsa.
E
Yeah.
F
Because she's pulling some hot trade.
E
Yeah.
D
And the one that is, like, very married. We don't know her husband.
A
How many Housewives are on Only Fans?
F
I think there's only, like, two.
A
Are we including Denise in that?
F
I think Denise, Brandy, and. And Lara.
B
Do you think Brandy's still working after the parasite?
F
I think Brandy's definitely still working.
B
Brandy's always working.
A
Listen, there's always a K out there.
F
There's. Thank you. Thank you. And we're not shaming anyone's king.
A
No, no, no, no.
B
If I could sell a dirty tampon, honey, I would.
A
Right.
F
My bath water. You don't want my bath water. Yeah, it is bathing.
E
I feel like some. But the thing is, somebody out there prob. And you deserve to get paid for that.
F
Thank you so much. It's so crazy. I want, like, a vagina candle.
A
What housewife or Bravo celebrity do you think is missing out the most by not being on OnlyFans? Ooh, ooh.
F
Give me a city salt.
E
Like.
F
Ooh. You know, I think fucking Angie's hot. Yeah, I think Angie's kind of hot. And I think Angie's husband would let her do whatever he would like if she wanted to pose a point. You.
D
He's taking the photos.
F
Make a few million.
D
He did her hair for the shoe.
F
Exactly. High body count hair. Give me another City Potomac. Oh, who's in Potomac. Who's in Potomac? Giselle. Single.
E
Yeah.
F
She would eat her eyes that booty. She would eat Erica Jane.
E
Yeah, yeah.
B
Dire Jane.
F
Erica fucking Jane. Pretty mess would. Pretty mess would kill, honestly.
A
Why hasn't she done it? Honestly? Because she could really rebound. She needs. I mean, she needs the cash flow.
G
Like, she made a lot during Savage X Fenty when she did those collabs.
F
She made a lot. She made a lot. Which I think she's gonna be back for that again.
G
Thank God.
A
Yeah, yeah.
F
But she's Southern like me. We're scared.
E
Yeah.
B
Atlanta.
F
Oh, Portia Williams.
B
Yeah.
E
Another ass from the gods.
F
That. And I've seen that ass in person. Person. It is wild.
B
Or Kelly.
F
Oh, new girl Kelly. New girl Kelly. Oh, yeah, for sure. Yeah, for sure, for sure. Yeah, yeah, yeah. New girl Kelly could do it. Britt Eie would probably make a lot of money, too.
A
Also make a lot of money.
E
She has.
F
She probably is making money.
D
Am I wrong for saying Drew? I feel like Drew would make no.
F
Get out of here.
D
Only fans.
F
She would not make good money.
G
She has her music career. She's over there.
A
I still think Tom Sandoval would make an absolute killing, by the way.
F
Tom Sandoval ball.
B
You can do it.
D
It's coming out next.
F
Has he not taken your idea about this?
A
No, he hasn't.
F
I feel like Tom Sandal would make a kill.
A
He makes so much money. He could buy that house back from Ariana and then another house.
E
Yeah.
F
I think if you did it for like a month and said, listen, I'm just going to be sending out exclusive content and, like, you're going to see my dick once and once only 30 days. Let's go. 45. 99. Bitches would run.
E
Yeah, they would.
A
There's so much. He would make so much money.
F
He would make a killing. Bella Thorne made, I think, $5 million in the first month she was doing.
A
He would make a million dollars just from the haters who wanted to, like, sign up just to shame him. And that's not even counting all the people who are fans of him, who want to watch and, like, and enjoy the body he's been working so hard on. But, like, just the haters alone would pay him over a million dollars.
F
I would pay 45.
E
Yeah.
B
I would do it research purposes.
E
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
F
By the way, I'm dying to know what's in there, because apparently all these bitches were clamoring over him. It must be something nice, right?
E
Yeah.
B
Did you see Anna Kendrick recently? Be like, if Tom Sandoval has no haters. I'm dead.
E
Yeah.
F
The fact that that guy, guy. And I'm like, you know, it sucks. What happened was terrible. The fact that all of the world thought you were the scum of the earth is a horrible, horrible thing to go to. But I get a sense a little bit of relief when I see him on Fox.
A
So do I.
F
When I see like, just like, okay, you could do it. Like, you could make a comeback. Everyone deserves a second chance.
A
Like, what he did was terrible. He did not deserve the vitriol he got. And like, there are just worse people in the world out there than Tom Star Sandoval.
D
They're just not saying that he asked for it or anything. But in his first season, first episode, he does say he does want fame and he wants Michael Jackson level fame.
B
Oh, well, be careful what you wish.
D
For because he was on the banner of CNN.com talking about his private business and now he's. He has a house.
A
Let's not confuse fame with infamy.
F
Well, yeah, you know, some. I don't think people will take the same thing.
D
I was gonna say it's one in the same. Nowadays, it's one in the same. There's no Billy the kids in.
A
Except that I don't know how much money money Tom is making and there's no point in being famous if you're not rich. And I don't know Tom's finances, but I think he needs to sign up for OnlyFans.
F
By the way, I would do it if I were him.
D
Yeah.
B
Are we watching Gretchen from O.C. or Jen?
F
Oh, you think from O.C. who would make the most money?
E
On only fans?
B
Yeah, on only Fans.
E
Jen.
F
I think Jen would make the most money.
E
Yeah. Gretchen. Sorry, Mama.
F
Also, did you see the moment where Jen's daughter was. Was like, I don't know if I want you to marry Ryan.
A
Yeah.
F
And if I were Jen, I'd be like, bitch, we wouldn't have somewhere to live. If I don't marry, like, if I don't marry Ryan, we're fucked.
B
Baby, do you want a house over your head?
F
We don't have a choice here, okay? We don't have a choice. Mama's gonna marry this man.
A
I realized Jen follows me, so I DM'd her last week. I was like, we gotta finally get you on. She didn't respond to that. But then I. She just responded to my Instagram story of me posting a picture of the lake. Was like, this is what it's all about. Ignoring my request to come on. I think she's definitely to come on.
B
I think, I don't think she saw that message. I think she was just on.
A
It was definitely giving. I don't understand Instagram and less of a. Yeah, I did DM Brittany Bateman and she'll, she'll be coming on eventually for sure. And she sent me a three second voice voice note.
F
I am here.
E
Was she singing?
B
Play it. You have to play it.
F
I am here. When she gets here, I'm here.
A
It was so great. It was so great.
E
I love her.
F
I'll be working the sound like this over here. I don't even want to be on camera.
D
Justin for Justin.
F
I just want to be here.
A
This message ago. Hey Brittany, Huge fan. We're, we're excited to finally have you on this season. We were, we were in talks last season. Timing didn't work out with our schedules. I think it's going to happen this season. She respond it with this.
B
Oh my gosh, that's so nice.
E
Thank you.
A
I mean just perfect.
E
Her voice.
A
No, no ear.
E
Her voice.
D
Love it.
F
She's one of the best.
A
I really didn't think like people could make up for Monica Garcia's exit, but the way Britney and Bron have, have, I mean they, they're, they're both incredibly fantastic. Is Britney going to get her snow Snowflake?
G
He's a friend of the season.
A
That's disgusting, by the way.
F
Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. Everybody thinks that being a friend of is a bad gig and it's kind of the fucking best.
G
Cynthia Bailey always says she loves the track that she's a friend of.
F
She and I, and I can say this. She called me and she was like, oh, they want me to be a friend of. I don't know, it feels like a demotion. I sat with this bitch for five minutes on the phone. I said, don't interrupt. Just let me give you the key points. And she was like, I think you're right. I think I'm gonna do it. And then she said it was the best decision of her life. People sleep on friend of but it is one of the best jobs in reality tv.
D
I was like, she practically narrated this. Last season she was the star.
E
She was awesome.
F
This season it is. I'm telling you right now, anyone who can find if you're a woman out there and they ask you to be a housewife, always say just a friend of. Yeah, the pressure's off your back. If a season's bad, no one ever says oh, the friends were bad. They say the housewives are bad. They blame it on the producers.
E
So true.
F
If you don't want to show up somewhere, you don't have to show up somewhere. If you don't want to go on a cash trip, you don't have to go on a cash trip.
E
Right?
F
You get to be fabulous. You get to push your. But most importantly, you get to jump in when you think you want to. And it's just less pressure. I would be. I would literally. I've been trying to talk everyone into it. Being a friend is the jam.
A
No notes. Justin, this is so much fun, man. Please come back soon. Plug away. Tell us where we can find you all that fun stuff.
F
You guys, the yesterday's podcast, it's really funny. It's out of control. It drops every Tuesday wherever you get your podcast. And on YouTube, it's with Blakely Thorton. And we're live and we're coming to you and you won't want to miss it. And you can find me on Instagram at Justin A. Silvestone. I love you guys.
A
I love you. Up next, we have Ramona Young from the new hit show the Paper, streaming now on Peacock. It's hilarious, especially if you are a fan of the Office, which I know many of you are. She's on it. She's starring on it. She's hilarious. And she is up next with us.
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Thanks.
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So excited to have you. We are so excited to have you.
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Also, congratulations. Because today, I mean, it was renewed.
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Renewed for a second season, two before.
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You guys even started.
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You're booked. You're booked and you're busy. So how does that feel?
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Well, that doesn't usually happen. That's not a normal thing, right? Usually you finish a season, it gets released. People watch it. You twiddle your thumbs for six months and you're hoping that you have a job.
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Right.
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You're like calling your cousins. You're like, please, did you turn it on and stream it or watch it to add to those numbers?
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Yeah, please, like just run it.
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Just non stop running in your house.
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So I feel very fortunate that it's a good thing.
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The expectations are high.
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Yeah.
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So go. I mean, obviously, honestly, like, the Office is such an iconic series. Whether it was you or the rest of the cast, like, what conversations were you all having or just with yourself in terms of how much did you guys want to replicate or kind of bring in the essence of the success of the Office? Or was it more like, let's just do our own thing, let's be our own show. And how did you guys strike that balance?
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I think from the beginning, it was very clear that it was gonna be its own thing. I think tonally it was gonna be a little similar. It was gonna be made by the same documentary crew, so the style would be similar. But all the characters. I think when Greg Daniels and Michael Komen, they were creating all these wonderful characters, they wanted to make sure that the dynamics were different and the characters were new and that it was gonna be its own new thing.
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What was the audition process?
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Like, how do I even begin? That's such a great question. It was very long.
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Really.
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It took months. And it was like an audition that I had never done before in my life.
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What about it felt like, different?
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The audition was very mysterious. None of the names were real. None of the sides were real. There was no character description.
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Interesting.
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So there was, like, nothing. You were. You were basically just left in the dark and left.
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So did they not want the, like, idea of this, like, being leaked anywhere? Is that why they were being so mysterious or.
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That's a great question. It really beats me. I think a part of it is they just want to see what you do with. With very minimal information. Yeah. It was a very long process. It took months. And then there was a chemistry read, which I did with Melvin, and that was interesting. Interesting altogether. Yeah. Because you want to feel like you have chemistry with the person. A lot of times you don't know them. Right. And so in the lobby, everyone's, like, socializing and trying to, like, warm up to people and whatnot. And me and Melvin had missed each other. So, like, I went in when he arrived, and then he went in and I was sent back out. And so when we read together, it was our first time meeting, and so.
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Instant chemistry, of course.
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Instant spontaneous. Yeah. And Greg and Michael were in the room, and they were like, did you guys get a chance to talk or meet each other? We were both like, no, we hadn't. Hi, how are you? And they're like, well, we're just gonna leave the room and let you guys socialize and get to know each other. And they tiptoed out of the room and just, like, pressed the record button and left. And it was just me and Melvin sitting there like, so what do you like to do for fun?
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And what?
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Yeah. And then they came in, like, a couple minutes later, and then we did, like, a couple versions of the scene. And. And that was my chemistry read with Melvin.
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I feel like I would be more awkward when they left, you know?
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Yeah.
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Cause it's like, you know, when they're there, you're like, oh, we're trying to get this job. You know, we're acting. Right. And I feel like when they leave the room, it's kind of that, like, you just ran into someone maybe you don't necessarily, like, want to see at the grocery store, and you're having this, like, awkward, like, what have you been up to lately? Kind of, like, awkward conversation.
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It's like a blind date. It was like a strange blind date. Yeah.
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Do you think that leaned into kind of like, the co worker aspect of the show?
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How so?
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I feel like, the way especially, I mean, I don't know how long, like, your character and everyone had Been like working at this paper. But I feel like there definitely is a different way you communicate with your co workers than you would with your friend, because you don't necessarily have to have good chemistry with your co workers. And I think a great part about these mockumentaries is kind of the slight tension between everyone.
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Yeah, there is definitely tension and between my character and Melvin's character. On this show, our characters weren't allowed to speak to each other, so the awkwardness had it fed into the authenticity of the environment.
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How much is improv on this show versus, like, scripted? Because, you know, usually in traditional, like, you know, scripted shows, writers are very like, hey, read what's on the paper. But we've heard, you know, we had Brian Baumgartner on in the past past and they, you know, there's a lot of stories that have come out about the Office since, about some pretty iconic moments that were just kind of off the cuff or improv. How much improvisation did you guys get to do while filming this?
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That's a good question. Surprisingly, it's very scripted. Surprisingly, it's very, like, well thought out and planned out. We'll always do like, Greg Daniels likes to do a lot of take and so we'll do like a lot of scripted takes. And then he'll also give us a chance to like run and play and do different things. And when that happens, the scene never ends. It just keeps going.
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You're just. Yes. Handing the whole time.
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Yeah, it's just non stop. And then we go past lunch and then it gets late.
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Everyone's on overtime.
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So there's a lot of that. I don't know how much of that is used actually, but yeah, a lot of it is scripted. And I think because of the way it's written, it's hard to tell. It looks very improvised.
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Did you guys feel a lot of pressure with, I mean, you know, now knowing it's been picked up for a season two, You've been in other, like, popular shows like Santa Clara Diet. Did you have a sense or just was there pressure going in? And then while filming it, did you guys feel like this, this is going to work, or are you. Are you not sure how they're gonna cut it? So you're just like, I don't know, I'm just gonna act and well, I hope it turns out, honestly.
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Yeah, that was me. I can't speak for everyone, but I've done, like, I've done shows where people are like, this is gonna be the biggest thing and it's gonna Change your life. And you just watch kid. And then I do it and I'm back at my day job.
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I know, but it's called. So.
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Yeah. And I've done shows where I. I've had no expectations. Like, I had no idea what was going to happen, and then it just blows up. So I. I learned to just like, not think about that.
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That's probably smart. Were there any, like, sitcom characters that you pulled any inspo from to play Nicole, or did you kind of just do your own thing?
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So before we started filming Melvin, Chelsea and I, we got to interview some real local newspaper journalist. And I had no idea what circulation was or like what a circulation person did. And that was one of the people that we got to interview. And Melvin made this comment. She's like this really sweet older lady, like, very tiny, very petite. And he was just like, you seem like such a nice lady. And she's like, oh, but I'm not. And I was like, that's great. Like, that's great for Nicole.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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That's funny. So I was like, real life.
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Yeah.
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Do you think that this woman's gonna know that you pulled that from her?
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I don't think she's gonna watch you.
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And be like, I see myself in Nicole.
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I hope she watches the show and sees herself in my character. Yeah.
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Did you have a fair. Did you have a favorite character on the Office?
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I think I was a. A Gym Stan, probably the level headed. Why do you make that face? You're like.
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Yeah, I was just thinking of. I was thinking a Creed.
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I love creed.
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Oh, yeah, that's good.
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Classic Kelly. Well, I mean, Mindy Kaling.
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We gotta love Kelly. Love Mindy. Yeah, yeah.
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Did you. Because you were in Never have I Ever the Mindy Kaling show. Did you talk to her at all, like, about. About doing this?
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Yeah, it was probably towards the end of filming season one, and she had seen one of the pilot cuts, and we just messaged each other and she told me how much she loved it and how she couldn't wait to see the rest of it. And she was very stoked.
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And it's.
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It was really nice hearing that from Mindy. Yeah.
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Yeah.
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That is, like, legendary.
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Yeah.
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Have Mindy, like, compliment you.
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Yeah, yeah.
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What was the worst job you've ever.
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Had in real life? Yeah, probably like a cheese grater salesman.
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You were a cheese grater salesman?
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Yeah.
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It was like door to do door.
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So what I would do is drive from, like, grocery stores to, like, grocery stores, and I would set stuff up and I Would make an announcement and be like, hey, come to aisle five. You'll get a free gift if you watch this demonstration. And I would have a 15, like, page monologue of demonstration that I would have to memorize. Perform meat grating cheese 15 minutes and then clean up for five minutes and then do it again. And that was what I did for, like, what kind of cheese? All types of cheese. You could grate boiled eggs with it. You could grate cookies if you want to make pie crumble.
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Do you own the grater now or.
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I did once upon a time. I don't think I have it anymore.
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Did you believe in the product?
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It was all right. It was all right.
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That's real work. That's. You really.
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Like, prop work. You're really. You're really leaning in.
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Yeah. And what I learned from that job is, like, the more enthused I seemed about it, the less people bought it and looking miserable.
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Grating cheese really, really sold the product.
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Yeah. So when I would do it, like, I kind of hated it. People would be like, yeah, I believe this woman. Give me three.
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Yeah, that's great.
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It's going in everyone's Christmas stocking.
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Ooh. Grading T shirts should be hard work.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Oh, my God, that's so funny.
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You're from the LA area. I know you. You've bounced around all over. But, like, you mentioned having to go back to your. Your day job. What was a job that you've had to do, like, once you got into acting and, you know, it's. It's a process. Right. You might get a small gig here, a small gig there in between. You know, you never know. But what. What did you do to make ends meet while. While chasing your dreams?
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Gosh, so much. I bar backed a little bit. I worked at a bunch of restaurants. What else? I was a substitute teacher. I tutored. I worked at an after school program. You graded cheese, Grated a lot of cheese. Yeah.
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If any of your other jobs were to become, like, a mockumentary, what do you think was. Would make, like, the best what if.
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Okay, can I say something that I hadn't done that I think would make a good mockumentary?
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Yeah. There's no rules.
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You can say whatever you want.
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I just made this question up so.
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Before, like, maybe clown school.
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Ooh.
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Because people take that very seriously.
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Yeah. Yeah.
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It's like a dramatic art.
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It's. And it. It would be dramatic. Like, these clowns would be really serious and sad and frustrated.
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Really intense theater kids in makeup. Yeah. That would be awesome.
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Any of the Christopher guys?
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No, I'm sorry. I don't even know who that is.
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The best in show.
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Waiting for Guffman.
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Waiting for Guffman.
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A mighty wind.
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A mighty windlet.
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So what are these things that you two are naming?
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They're movies. They're mockumentary. They're improvised.
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Like, best in show is about the dog pageant.
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Yeah. And then. Yeah. Waiting for Guffman is like regional theater with, like, Eugene Levy and Catherine.
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Do you have some of, like, your own personal favorite mocking mockumentaries?
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I mean, I really like what we do. In the shadows. Parks and Rec. Is that considered a mockingary?
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Yeah, that was like a.
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Like the first.
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First office spin off, in a way.
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Yeah. And then it became. It got to be its own thing. Much like the paper.
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Much like the paper.
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I see.
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Yeah.
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Interesting.
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There was a lot of different opinions out there when they found out that this was all going to be released at once. I was a big fan of it because I thought about how, like, the office or Parks and and Rec kind of had, like. Well, certainly Parks and Rec because it went off the air and then it came back. But I feel like sometimes these shows, it takes a bit to, like, get into the characters. Right. And then, like, each character you really kind of fall in love with over time. And to me, it's like a very bingeable show rather than, like, you know, watching one episode, waiting a week, waiting for a cliffhanger. Like, do you agree? Disagree? Do you like binging? This type of.
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I think our show in particular builds momentum as you watch it. So I'm actually really glad that it's dropping all at once. I think it gets, like, exponentially funnier as you keep going. So it's nice that people don't have to wait.
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What are you most excited for people to watch in the paper?
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Just all the shenanigans we get into because it gets more and more ridiculous, and it's really funny.
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When you're not acting or studying. What are you watching on tv? Like, just a fan of tv.
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I. I've been watching. One of my favorite shows is Love after Lockup. Have you seen that? No.
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Have I?
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I love it.
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There we go.
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I love it. These people are interesting.
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Yeah. It's so interesting.
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Have you followed any of, like, the recent, like, the people who are, like, glorified because they're so attractive or not attractive, but they're, like, arrested and going to prison? Everyone's like, oh, my God, I have to be. They're like, pen pal. Like, I remember the one. The most recent one that I saw was like, Wade Wilson, who was like this awful criminal, but he, like, was covered in tattoos and like, when he didn't open his mouth. Cause I think his teeth were rotting out from meth when he didn't open his mouth. He was, like, kind of handsome.
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And he.
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I remember he could model.
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Yeah, he could. And like, everyone would be like, making these thirst trap videos of him. And I feel like he would be the type that would be on Love after lockup.
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Yeah.
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You know, like just the. I feel like there was another guy who like, got famous off his mug shot. Yeah, there's a model.
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The one guy, like, became like, famous. A real, like, high end fashion model.
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Good for him.
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Yeah.
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Are you into any other, like, reality TV type of things?
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I really love, like, home makeover shows. Like, I love seeing people flip their houses. I love watching say yes to the dress. Makes me cry.
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All the.
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All the times.
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She said yes.
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Yeah.
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So you're like a TLC kind of girl.
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Is that even a thing?
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TLC girl?
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I think so.
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Yeah.
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A lot of. A lot of our audience members are okay.
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We got dance moms on TLC. Say yes to the Jess.
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Yeah, TLC's thriving.
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Incredible.
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That one after lockup might be on TLC. All right, so I feel like it is.
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All right, fine. Whatever.
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Welcome it with open arms.
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Everyone's a Bravo, girly. You need more TLC girlies.
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So true.
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Not to give anything away and knowing that there's a season two coming along, obviously, like with the office, thinking back, the character arcs that we got to see, like Pam and Jim falling in love, getting married, having a kid. For your character, Nicole, what would be your dream character arc? You know, fast forwarding. The paper's on for eight, ten seasons.
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Ooh, I don't know. I'm almost afraid to say it. Cause I don't want to jinx anything. You know what I mean?
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Sure.
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I would love to see my character's walls break down a little bit more. I kind of want to see what's maybe going on inside.
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Like why she locks people in a room.
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Yeah, exactly. Amongst other things. Like, she's very garbage guarded. So I would love to see, like, what's underneath all of that.
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What would be like, nightmare scenario character arc.
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She's killed off the show.
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Yeah. She dies, you're out of a job.
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A journalist down in the line of fire.
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Have you ever been fired?
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Yes. Well, not fired. I've been gently let go.
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Okay, gently.
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What was the worst ua you found out that you weren't going to be returning for any type of a job.
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What was the worst way? I.
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It was only one time.
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It would be the only time.
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Only time.
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Wait, how did you find out?
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I just got a phone call.
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I said, don't worry about coming in today.
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Yeah. They were just like, you know, it's not you. Like, you're doing great. They were just like, this cast is just way too big. It's getting out of hand, so we have to get rid of. Rid of some characters. And I was like, I understand.
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You're like, yeah, I agree. They gotta go.
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They're like, but it's you. You're the one. And I was, like, emotional, and I said something like, you know, this isn't gonna make me quit acting. I'm gonna keep going for it, you know.
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You said that to them or yourself?
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I said that to them. I was like, I'm gonna keep following my dreams.
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Everything gonna be okay?
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Yeah, pretty much.
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She was like, that's wonderful. And then the next season, they hired, like, a million more actors to be on that show. So I was like, it's fine.
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Well, now look at you.
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Sure, I'm here.
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You're on the paper.
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You're on the paper. Already renewed for second season, so.
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I sure am.
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I bet you that show didn't get automatically renewed for a second season.
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Well, you know, I still love everyone on the show.
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Do we love.
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No hard feelings. I get it. Whatever.
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If Nicole had never worked at the Truth Teller, what do you think she would be doing?
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I think she would be working on the Dark Webs. I think she would be hacking into people's computers.
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Edward Snowden.
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Yeah, Edward Snowden.
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Do you feel like there's anyone who's, like, Nicole's type, who's also, like, a co worker who's also her type? Maybe?
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Well, she's into married men, so it's very toxic. Her character, not me.
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She's got some childhood trauma down past her.
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She's got some drama going on. Yeah.
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Okay.
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That's exciting.
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That throws a wrench in the things.
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It is what it is. I don't write the scripts.
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You just act them, show up.
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Is it more fun to play a character that is a little, like, dark and different from who you are?
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I don't really see Nicole maybe, as dark. Maybe she'll get dark moving forward, but it's nice to have a character that's nuanced. Yeah.
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Was there anyone that you were, like, kind of impressed with their performance?
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Everyone. I feel like everyone's so different, you know, like, everyone brings something different.
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It's a really fun ensemble of just. Just like, a bunch of different kinds of people, and it really. Yeah, I think everyone really has a chance to grow into their characters. And I'm really excited that it got renewed because I feel like so many sitcoms don't get renewed anymore. And then you see one season, you're like. It was getting to that point of, you know, everyone, and you're having so much fun. You're just hanging out with people you like, and then it's gone. And so it's really excited to see, like, where everything can go in season two and just to, like, see more of it.
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Have you been able to watch anything back yet?
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I haven't seen the last episode yet, so I don't really know how it ends.
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It could get really dark. You don't know.
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Yeah.
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You.
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Is there. You've played it in a lot of. In a. In a lot of comedies. Is there, like, a part of you that wants to. Like, is that your favorite genre to act in, or are you thinking, like, you want to dip your toes into drama or thrillers or anything else?
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I've never really thought of myself as a funny person.
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Really?
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Yeah. And I don't get it still. Like, I don't understand, but I'm happy to be here.
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Yeah.
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Like, I'm happy I got invited.
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And we are also.
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Thank you're welcome.
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So you don't see yourself. You do see yourself in some dramas and some thrillers because you don't think you're that funny.
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I don't know. Yeah, I could. I could see myself in a lot of different things.
B
Can you see yourself doing, like, the Scream, like, horror?
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Like.
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Okay.
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Is that an ultra line right there?
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I would love to, but I don't know if I could do it without laughing, like, a lot, but I would love to. That sounds like so much fun.
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Maybe comedy horror.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Mix the two.
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What we do in the Shadows is kind of a comedy in a way. More comedy, less horror.
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Yeah. Scream. Also comedy, horror.
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Is it a comedy?
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Yeah, it's the original one. Yeah, the original one is they're all pretty kind of. There's some humor.
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I don't. My. I don't know. I like. My favorite movie is Silence of the Lambs, and that movie makes me laugh at times, so that's dark.
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I don't think that one's that funny.
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I don't know. Hannibal actor is kind of a diva.
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Yeah.
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Okay.
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It just makes me, like, giggle I don't know. So, yeah, maybe.
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I feel like there's so much.
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Yeah, I feel like there's a lot of comedy and horror.
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There is. You know, I think Jordan Peele talks about that a lot, like the timing and the rhythm.
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Yeah. I feel like people who are, like, really, really good at comedy also end up being, like, really good, good horror, because you're hitting that elevation at the same point.
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Do you have any dream actors you would like to work with or directors? Maybe? Jordan Peele.
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I really love Guillermo del Toro. I just love his work. I don't know if I'll ever get to work with him, but I'm just.
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Speak it into existence.
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Okay.
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Fair. Take it.
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I'm just a really big fan. Yeah. What about. About you guys?
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I feel like I'm definitely a really.
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Narrowing it down score.
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Scorsese. You're. You're a Marty girl.
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Marty.
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I'm a Marty. I'm a Marty kind of guy.
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Do you see that for me and Taxi Driver? Maybe? Yeah.
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Maybe I could see you in, like, a Tarantino thing too.
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Yeah, I could do that.
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Yeah.
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I love it.
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Mary's got a long list.
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I'm sure he probably came up with Wiki.
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Yeah, probably. That's probably. Why am I really going in a dark direction today?
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You are. She said all her favorite ones are.
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Dead, so, like, David lynch would keep on.
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I'm not David Lynch. It just happened so recently. It feels like, I don't know.
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Greta Gerwig, a girl.
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Let's go.
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Yeah. Could be the lion, the Witch, or the Wardrobe in that movie.
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Is she directing that?
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Yeah, for that book.
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You sent me this. That they canceled the Aristocats Live live action movie. Live action movie.
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They were gonna do it. Our daughter's really, really into Marissa cats, so we appreciate about that.
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Do you have a favorite Disney movie? OG Disney?
C
I love all, like, the 90s Disney stuff. I think that was, like, peak.
A
Like Little Mermaid.
B
That's, like, all we've been showing our years.
A
No, we're. We're. We're into like the, like, 60s and 70s.
C
Okay.
A
Like 101 Dalmatians.
B
That was really that long ago.
C
I don't know why, but, like, 60s Disney in is, like. It's really beautiful aesthetically, but it's also. There's something, like, eerie about it for me. Like, the Dalmatians was scary or, like, it's pretty intense. Cinderella was scary.
E
Cinderella.
B
Yeah, that one is scary.
A
I like the artistry. I definitely. Because you can see the animation, like, in the artistry and the Older ones.
E
Do you think it's, like, an Uncanny Valley thing of, like, seeing the animation is, like, a little freaky?
C
Maybe it is, yeah. But I don't know. 90s was, like, my favorite Disney era.
A
Are you a Little Mermaid or Aladdin?
C
Aladdin.
B
You recently watched it with.
A
I didn't feel like it. Held up.
B
He didn't like it.
C
Why?
A
Just. I don't know. I was like, I don't know. Jasmine, Aladdin. I was like, I don't know. Just didn't.
B
He didn't believe the Love Genie.
C
Robin Williams.
A
Robin held up. But the rest of the story, I don't know.
C
I don't know what to say to that.
A
That's okay.
B
When was the last time you watched it?
A
It's been a while, so maybe you'll agree. I don't know.
C
I don't think so.
A
Okay.
B
Alone and not well.
A
Rona, this has been so much fun. Thank you for coming.
C
Thanks for having me.
A
Where can people follow you? All that fun stuff? And watch the paper. Well, the paper's on now.
E
Peacock.
A
Peacock. All the episodes are now available streaming. When. When you listen to this.
E
Yeah.
A
Check it out. And then where can people follow you? On Social.
C
At Ramona Bish Young.
B
Love her.
E
Nice.
C
Love that.
B
I love her. What? Die for her. Love that Bish.
C
Love that Bish. Thanks for having me. This was so fun.
B
Thanks for coming.
A
Congratulations on everything. I can't wait to come back when this is, like, in its eighth season. Well, no, come back. You don't. Don't have to wait eight seasons. But when you're a big, big, huge.
E
Star, when you've won, like, 80 gajillion.
A
Emmys, don't forget about us.
C
Yeah, I think she already forgot about us.
E
What am I doing here?
A
Well, that'll wrap up today's episode. Thank you to our guests, Justin Sylvester and Ramona Young. We will see you back on Thursday. Thanks for listening.
F
Bye.
E
Bye.
Date: September 9, 2025
Host: Nick Viall
Guests: Justin Sylvester, Ramona Young
Recurring Co-Hosts ("the Household"): Natalie Joy, others
This Reality Recap edition blends Bravo TV coverage, relationship banter, pop culture chatter, and a special interview with Ramona Young from Peacock’s The Paper. Nick, Natalie, and the Household dissect viral news (notably “Philly Baseball Karen”), speculate wildly about celebrity romances and reality royalty, and then, with Justin Sylvester, deep-dive into Real Housewives drama and dynamics. The last third centers on a candid chat with Ramona Young about her comedic TV ascent and the inner workings of a hit sitcom.
[02:43-07:45]
Memorable Quote:
"She finished that seven hours later." – Nick, on Natalie nursing a single glass of wine while cleaning (04:40)
[06:47-08:33]
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Notable Quotes:
"She proceeds to like argue with this guy, get in his face... she just didn't care." – Nick (10:18)
"This dad handled it great. It was a teachable moment about how not to be a wretched, soulless, horrible person." – Nick (13:53)
“How are you with that person?” – Natalie, baffled that Karen’s companion didn’t intervene (14:05)
The Household reflects on the etiquette of catching and gifting foul balls and digresses into nostalgia around sportsmanship videos.
[19:04-22:13]
Highlight:
"She's doing the work of her... dating all of these people." – Justin, admiring Zoe Kravitz (20:35)
[33:06-76:02]
[33:06-39:40]
Quote:
"There is a finesse to fucking getting into people's business." – Justin (34:51)
[45:11-47:03]
Memorable Quote:
"I like to get it out first, so I make a nice little playlist, go to the gym, I run on the treadmill, and I let it out." – Justin (45:33)
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Notable Quotes:
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[74:14-75:35]
Memorable Quote:
"If a season’s bad, no one ever says oh, the friends were bad. They say the housewives are bad." – Justin (75:13)
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[79:53-106:05]
[80:00-81:05]
Quote:
"They were creating all these wonderful characters... they wanted to make sure that the dynamics were different and the characters were new and that it was gonna be its own new thing." – Ramona (81:22)
[81:36-83:38]
[85:34-86:10]
[86:25-94:03]
[89:22-91:22]
Memorable Job Quote:
"The more enthused I seemed about it, the less people bought it... looking miserable grating cheese really, really sold the product." – Ramona (90:31)
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[96:55-97:02]
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Next up: Thursday's Viall Files. Subscribe & stay tuned for more reality revelations and pop culture commentary!