Ep958 - Love Island USA’s Hannah, Paul Scheer, The Valley, Love Island Dumpings, and McBee Dynasty

Summary

The Viall Files Podcast Summary Episode: Ep958 - Love Island USA’s Hannah, Paul Scheer, The Valley, Love Island Dumpings, and McBee Dynasty
Release Date: June 26, 2025

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Introduction

In Episode 958 of The Viall Files, host Nick Viall, along with co-hosts Natalie Joy and Claudia, delve deep into the latest happenings in the world of reality television, focusing primarily on Love Island USA. This episode features a special guest appearance by comedian and actor Paul Scheer, who shares his insights and frustrations regarding the current season of Love Island USA. Additionally, the episode includes an exclusive interview with Hannah from Love Island, providing listeners with firsthand accounts of recent events in the villa.

Main Topics Discussed

1. Love Island USA Controversies

The episode opens with a heated discussion about the widespread dissatisfaction among American audiences towards the producers of Love Island USA. Nick Viall expresses frustration over perceived overproduction and scripted elements undermining the show's authenticity.

• Nick Viall (02:03):
  "Everyone in America is pissed at the producers of Love Island. We will definitely get into it. So much to talk about."

Paul Scheer joins the conversation, sharing his observations and critiques of the show's current direction.

• Paul Scheer (32:20):
  "Love Island's on. It feels like, seven nights a week."

2. Insights from Paul Scheer

Paul Scheer provides a comedian's perspective on reality TV, particularly focusing on the mounting drama and lack of genuine connections in the current season of Love Island USA. He highlights specific instances, such as the controversial milk-spitting incident, questioning the show's authenticity.

• Paul Scheer (35:06):
  "That's based off like producer decisions. That's, that's the issue I see is they're putting all these games in there because no one seems to have a real connection."

The discussion touches on the impact of editing and production decisions on viewer perception, with both Nick and Claudia expressing concerns over misleading portrayals.

• Claudia (56:00):
  "They're also being way too messy with their editing. It feels like they're getting really sloppy."

3. Audience Reactions and Dumpings

The hosts and Paul delve into the recent dumpings on Love Island USA, notably the contentious exits of Jeremiah and Hannah. They debate whether these eliminations were genuine or influenced by producer manipulation.

• Paul Scheer (43:06):
  "I have to ask you about dumping Jeremiah and Hannah. They didn't give any of the conversations and how those groups came to the decision."

Nick shares his disappointment over the lack of transparency in the elimination process, contrasting it with previous seasons where decisions felt more organic.

• Nick Viall (41:02):
  "They really fuck with the format of Casa More. It's just like all gamesmanship now."

4. Editing and Authenticity Concerns

A significant portion of the discussion centers on the editing practices of Love Island USA. The hosts express skepticism about the portrayal of relationships and conflicts, suggesting that editing may be creating false narratives.

• Nick Viall (58:29):
  "Sometimes a justifiable reason is they're trying to convey the sentiment of what is happening in that room despite maybe that footage that they chose to use didn't quite capture that."

Paul Scheer likens the show's editing to "Cliff Notes," summarizing complex interpersonal dynamics into simplified storylines.

• Paul Scheer (58:28):
  "It's like the Cliff Notes of the day."

5. Love Island USA Guest Appearance: Hannah

Towards the latter part of the episode, Hannah from Love Island joins the conversation to discuss her unexpected exit from the villa. She provides her perspective on her relationships within the show and addresses rumors about potential connections between cast members.

• Hannah (81:26):
  "I am still completely disconnected from the outside world. I have no clue what's going on. I know... what happens is supposed to happen."

Hannah shares emotional moments and challenges faced during her time in the villa, shedding light on the pressures of reality TV.

• Hannah (83:56):
  "I think there is a lot that's not shown, but she's a mother and like, I think mamacita, but I think that she really deserves to have a comeback story now that Jeremiah's gone."

6. Discussion on Editing Choices and Cast Dynamics

The hosts critique specific editing choices that may have misrepresented events in the villa, such as scenes where participants appear to react to situations they weren't actually present for.

• Claudia (56:00):
  "They're also being way too messy with their editing, it feels like."

Nick acknowledges the challenges of producing a daily reality show and the limitations it imposes on presenting a complete narrative.

• Nick Viall (57:31):
  "Sometimes a justifiable reason is they're trying to convey the sentiment of what is happening in that room despite maybe that footage that they chose to use didn't like quite capture that. Like, I think often a justifiable reason is they're trying to convey the sentiment of what is happening in that room..."

Additional Segments

7. True Crime Discussions

Beyond Love Island USA, the episode briefly touches on true crime cases, including the Karen Reed and Sherry Papini cases, with Paul Scheer sharing his thoughts and skepticism about the testimonies involved.

• Paul Scheer (65:41):
  "She switches it up whenever she gets in a corner. And that's what I thought was so fascinating here. I'm like, you are like, I am a fan of this show. I love that interview. It's like."

8. McBee Dynasty Interview

The episode concludes with an interview featuring Stephen and Kala from McBee Dynasty, another Bravo reality show. They discuss the unique challenges of running a modern-day farm under FBI investigation while maintaining authenticity on camera.

• Natalie Joy (114:05):
  "Thank you."

Notable Quotes

• Nick Viall (02:31):
  "I will definitely get into it. So much to talk about."

• Claudia (02:43):
  "Very organized and very passionate audience."

• Paul Scheer (32:20):
  "There's nothing sexy about that, ultimately, I don't think."

• Hannah (81:58):
  "I was crying. I was like, no, because Alandria. That is my fucking girl."

Conclusion

Episode 958 of The Viall Files offers a comprehensive and candid exploration of the current state of Love Island USA, enriched by Paul Scheer's comedic yet insightful commentary. The addition of Hannah from Love Island provides an emotional and personal perspective, highlighting the human side of reality television. The hosts effectively balance critiques of production practices with genuine engagement with their guests, delivering a rich and engaging discussion for both avid fans and newcomers to the podcast.

Listeners are left with a deeper understanding of the complexities and behind-the-scenes dynamics of reality TV, particularly Love Island USA, while also getting a glimpse into other reality shows like McBee Dynasty. The episode emphasizes the importance of authenticity and meaningful connections in reality television, questioning the evolving formats and production decisions that shape viewer experiences.

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Note: This summary is crafted based on the provided transcript and aims to encapsulate the key discussions and insights shared during the podcast episode. For a complete understanding and context, listening to the full episode is recommended.

Transcript

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[Paul Scheer]

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[Claudia]

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[Nick]

What's going on, everybody? Welcome back to another exciting episode of the Vile Files reality recap edition. I am your host, Nick, and boy, everyone in America is pissed at the producers of Love Island. We will definitely get into it. So much to talk about. We have a very special guest. Paul Scheer returns the Vile Files. He was on long time ago during COVID Actor, comedian, on many shows, starred in the show the League, very popular show, very funny guy. He's watching Love Island. He's also very deep into the Karen Reed case, the Sherry Papini case. We'll talk about some true crime and the true crime that is the Love island producers right now. Coming up shortly. Lots to get into. Obviously, many of you have already heard the Jeremiah Going Deeper episode. If you are living under a rock, it is out yesterday. Check it out. Sadly, my wife Natalie was not there. Obviously, things move fast in Love Island. She was on a business trip. She was guest starring on the Toast. And I, as a husband of my wife Natalie, was very proud of my wife. I, you know, I think we're the best show in town. But I have mad respect for the women of the Toast. They are. Oh, geez. They've been crushing the podcast game long before I even started. And I think it's, I'm very flattered and I think it's very cool that my wife was asked to host the Toast. I thought it was pretty amazing. So if you haven't heard that, check it out. Out, go listen to it. But sadly, she couldn't join us for the Jeremiah episode. I hope I handled myself well without her. But it was. Did you have fun talking with Jackie?

[Claudia]

I did. I had fun. I, I was very nervous, very anxious going into it. I know the Toasters, you know, they have high expectations and they're, they can be, you know, a little Opinionated, a little.

[Nick]

Very organized and very passionate audience.

[Claudia]

Yeah.

[Nick]

But, you know, it's Claudia and Jackie. They have their dynamic.

[Claudia]

They have their dynamic. So I was very nervous stepping in, especially stepping into shoes of Claudia. Like, big, big, big shoes to, like, try to even come close to filling. But I had so much fun. Jackie is such a sweetheart. And I feel like my ability to not do math has bitten me in the ass because she was like, oh, you and Nick have an age gap. And I'm like, yeah, 18 years. She's like, so how old were you when you met him? I'm like, 21. She's like, how old was Nick? And I'm like, fast math. Like, how fucking dare you? First of all. So, like, that's rude. Give me a second to calculate it. I'm like, he was 37, I think. I think followed the 37. And now everyone's like, well, if I do the math, that means you were 19 years old. I'm like, no, no, no, no, no. I know I was 21. I was present in my body currently in that time period. So I do know that I was 21 years old.

[Nick]

Now, Nick, Natalie, when Nally uses her fingers to do simple addition just to, like, not to call out my wife, but, like, it's. It's.

[Danny]

How do you count?

[Claudia]

Yeah, No, I don't. I go pointer finger as one.

[Nick]

You know, if she needs to add three to four, she's using fingers.

[Claudia]

Yeah. I'm like, three, four. Okay, perfect. Wait, was that two or.

[Natalie]

You might as well.

[Hannah]

That's what they're there for. Literally.

[Claudia]

They're there for a reason. You might as well use them.

[Justin]

They are called digits.

[Claudia]

Yeah. They are called digits. Yeah. No. Anyway, so Nick, he was not 37. He was 38. And then a couple weeks later turned 39.

[Nick]

We met right before my birthday.

[Claudia]

Yes. Now that I have had a moment to think about it and do the math calculations properly. Who gives a fuck, Honestly? We're married with. With a child. We, you know, almost had two more children.

[Nick]

Now it just has to be on the toast, which most of you couldn't even handle that kind of pressure. She was also performing surgeries when I met her, so.

[Claudia]

Thanks, baby.

[Nick]

Second thing.

[Danny]

Oh, my God.

[Claudia]

But it's just like, you know, you get caught up in the moment. The math was not, you know, I was put on the spot. I didn't. I don't. Yeah. So. But other than that, I do believe it was a very great experience. I am very sad to have missed Jeremiah, because I did want to see his face in front of my face through a screen.

[Nick]

He's handsome. I. It's. It's breathtaking. And I was really impressed. I mean, like, I, you know, I think America loves him right now. Everyone feels he got screwed over, but, you know, go listen to the episode. But I really, you know, I wasn't, like, drilling him with questions, but, like, he's well spoken, he's thoughtful, he's considerate. He's got a face that could allow him to take advantage of, you know, of life. And he seems to be very conscious and wanting to hold himself accountable. I don't know, maybe you guys will think differently. Check out the episode, if you haven't already. Share your thoughts, obviously, in the comments of what you thought. We won't be reading them anyways, but, like, comment away. Like, have some discourse. Well, I won't. I don't, I don't. I don't read the comments. Also joining us this episode, Hannah from Love island joins us to talk about her exit and everything she experienced at the villa. Any big headline. Katy Perry and Orlando Bloom broke up. Guess he couldn't get over space trip.

[Justin]

No one saw that coming.

[Danny]

Oh, my God, wait, less of the.

[Claudia]

Space trip and more of, like, the farting and shitting on stage.

[Nick]

She farts and shits on stage.

[Claudia]

Wait, she, like, has a whole, like, toilet with, like, poop coming out of it and then she like.

[Nick]

Excuse me.

[Danny]

Yeah, true.

[Justin]

Honestly, clips from that tour is the most bizarre thing ever that I'm, like, guessing. I could see how one gets.

[Nick]

That's true.

[Claudia]

She, like, opens her legs and drops things between her legs.

[Danny]

It's like a fake poop. It's like a puppet poop.

[Claudia]

A puppet poop? Yeah.

[Danny]

Yeah. There's like a big. There's a big toilet on a giant.

[Justin]

Turd with a face that comes out.

[Danny]

It's like a puppet poop.

[Nick]

Yeah. So I feel like a prop or she literally shits.

[Claudia]

No, it's a.

[Danny]

No, she's sitting on, like, the rolls.

[Justin]

Of toilet paper and, like, that's a giant toilet next to her with a giant puppet turd. What a goofball coming out with a face.

[Nick]

Did you see the Orlando. Did you see, like, his morning meditations and his. His seances where it was like, at least she doesn't have to hear this anymore. Everyone has their quirks, you know? You know, two beautiful people. I'm sure they'll both be fine. We wish them nothing but the best, right? Yeah.

[Claudia]

Really.

[Justin]

The Red Lobster's got a big comeback. Never been Excited about this.

[Claudia]

See Red Lobster either.

[Nick]

Maybe I'll come back for the first time. I don't know. I think.

[Claudia]

Wait, what didn't Flavor.

[Justin]

Flavor. Flavor.

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah.

[Nick]

Well, Flavor Flav, when they first filed for bankruptcy, was the first to be like, this cannot happen. And it seems like the Darden family, they own, I believe, Red Lobster. I only know that because as an employee of the Olive Garden in college, I had to watch, like, about the Olive Garden company, and I learned that Red Lobster and Olive Garden.

[Justin]

Your training video.

[Nick]

Yeah, it was like. Yeah.

[Danny]

Were you a waiter? You were a waiter, right?

[Nick]

I was, yeah.

[Natalie]

Nick, if you go to Red Lobster, I already know you're going to be.

[Nick]

Obsessed with the biscuits.

[Claudia]

No, they literally be the one asking for more. They're in the. The freezer section at the grocery store. We don't need to save Red Lobster for the.

[Nick]

No, but the fresh ones. I used to. Fresh ones. I used to always fight with the assistant manager at the Olive Garden because the rule of thumb for the unlimited breadsticks was if it was a four top, you give them five breadsticks. Like, how many people you have, plus one more? And I would just be like, here's nine breadsticks. I don't know. Just eat the fucking bread. It's unlimited. Like, you know, and you're a homie constantly.

[Natalie]

You're a homie for that.

[Nick]

I was giving away too much bread, and I never listened.

[Justin]

You said it's unlimited. They're just going to ask for more anyway.

[Nick]

Yeah, it's unlimited, man. Like, what are we doing here?

[Justin]

Five is not unlimited.

[Claudia]

So what. What is Red Lobster big comeback?

[Nick]

They hired the former CEO of. Of P F Chang's, who, like, is, like, 35 years old. It's like some boy genius. Anyway. Whoa.

[Claudia]

What is the big comeback of Red.

[Justin]

Lobster that they're offering now? Seafood boil bags, which love those Sangria flights and $5 drinks hit the menu. So they're just. They're.

[Nick]

They're.

[Danny]

They're.

[Justin]

They're giving what the people are asking for.

[Nick]

The boil bag.

[Justin]

I want the boil bag we're looking for. I think they're just trying to.

[Claudia]

You can get that on Amazon. What?

[Nick]

You get a boil bag on Amazon?

[Justin]

On Amazon.

[Claudia]

Yes, you can.

[Justin]

No, it's like. Like a seafood boil. Like, where they put, like, lobster, shrimp, potatoes, corn, spices.

[Nick]

Cajun.

[Justin]

Justin and I are going on a date.

[Nick]

I've never had it, but I want it.

[Hannah]

Yeah.

[Claudia]

Good luck wish. I hope y' all return.

[Danny]

I don't know. I don't. I don't the only.

[Nick]

The only restaurant like that that I fuck with is Sizzler. Oh, Sizzler is good, though.

[Justin]

They have, like, a $7 steak, but the cheese toast. No.

[Nick]

Yeah, you just left some A1 steak sauce. That's the only, like, I love A1 steak sauce, but as a steak sn. Like, if you're cooking a good enough steak, you don't put steak sauce on it. But, like, so, like, Sizzler is my excuse to, like, have A one sauce.

[Justin]

I was gonna say we all have our gross things and let Red Lobster be ours and Sizzler can be yours.

[Nick]

Well, Justin Baldoni is not revising his claims against Blake lively after the 400 million million lawsuit was dismissed, even though his lawyer came out guns ablazing, being like, well, we can still file. And all. All the Justin Stans were like, no, no, no, this doesn't mean anything. He can still file. Well, it turns out because they don't have a case at all. They' to refile. And I feel like the truth is starting to reveal itself. This is all just a PR stunt to, like, just, you know, beat down Blake Lively and her team. But we'll see. I think it goes to court in early 2026. But, yeah, looks like he won't be refiling that what I believe to be a bullshit retaliation move. But, hey, I guess we'll see.

[Danny]

I mean, on the topic of Blake Lively, Taylor Swift and Travis Kelsey made their red carpet debut at the opening night of his tight end university. Oh, which is this. This is the first time they've been.

[Nick]

They have a red carpet. Tight end university. Is that really become an event? It's meant. It was meant to be, like, they'd bring all, like, the tight ends from around the league to, like, mentor them, coach them up. Like, it was like a.

[Claudia]

Well, it was held at Jason Aldean's bar in Nashville. The red carpet, I imagine, is like a backdrop.

[Nick]

There is a red carpet. It's not like a stereotypical Hollywood red carpet, but the carpet's red.

[Justin]

I'm just like, do they need to make a red carpet debut when they made out in the middle of the stadium after he won the Super Bowl, I feel like that would take.

[Danny]

Well, I guess it's just the first time they're on a red carpet together.

[Justin]

Standing on it for, like, a gala.

[Natalie]

Or something kind of.

[Claudia]

I mean, it's the same thing with, like, Timothy and Kylie. You know, like, they were at scene at every event together, kissing stands and doing this and that. And then the second they like, walked the red carpet together. It was like, oh, my God, they're actually a couple. It's like y' all didn't get that from, like, them making out, watching a tennis match. Like, what, the last, like, three years.

[Danny]

What was the first red carpet that you guys were on together?

[Nick]

Was it the mtv?

[Claudia]

Mtv.

[Justin]

What was Natalie's debut?

[Nick]

It was the MTV Unscripted Awards hosted by Nikki Glazer.

[Claudia]

Yeah. Yeah. It's when I sat at the same table as Snooki and JWoww and was, like, freaking the out.

[Nick]

Yeah, her armpits were sweating.

[Danny]

She was so nervous that she met.

[Nick]

The cast at Jersey Shore, and I was like, really, like, no disrespect to that, you know, iconic group of people. I just. I didn't watch it back in the day, so I. I wasn't as excited. But Natalie was losing her goddamn mind. And.

[Claudia]

And I remember Nick was like. He, like. He, like, stepped away from me so that they could take solo shots. And all the. The paparazzi, it was kind of giving what they did to James Charles where no one was really clicking. They were just, like, waiting for me to move along the carpet, you know.

[Nick]

Little did they know.

[Claudia]

Little did they know that she'd be married.

[Nick]

You know, I'm telling you guys, you know, watch out now. Now he's on her path to be a big, big star where. So I can just.

[Claudia]

I honestly am scared. It just means more haters, and, like, I just can't take it.

[Danny]

You know, when you are a big star and people come to an event of yours, are you going to ignore them or are you going to pay attention to your fans?

[Claudia]

I mean, I would hope that I would pay attention to my fans. I believe you're talking about Miley Cyrus and Naomi Campbell.

[Nick]

Here's the thing.

[Danny]

Speaking about Miley Cyrus and Naomi Campbell, if you've.

[Nick]

If you've saw me in the wild, like, I. I really gotta my way. I really. I hope I have good reactions. Nally, I've always been aware of this, but, like, my. My resting gaze is unflattering. My. My resting bitch face is terrible.

[Claudia]

No, your resting bitch face is what it is. It is a resting bitch face. You know, it doesn't have to be terrible.

[Nick]

Even when I talk, Natalie says I look grump. I just. I have a grumpy demeanor.

[Claudia]

Sometimes I'll be out in public and I'm like, you look like you actually fudgeing hate my guts. So I need you to just walk around.

[Nick]

I just have ear to ear introverted demeanor. I'm just like, I'm not. I. I'm a judgy person. Anyway, like, there's a reason why the Vile Files hasn't gone on the road. And this is a reason why I don't do meet and greets. And someday I hope that we do like, some kind of like, live event. And when I do it, I will amped up and ready to go. But, like, what I don't do is I know that I'm like, no, I'm not naturally good at. And it's just like, no, like, just don't do this. And for those of you who don't know what we're talking about, Miley Cyrus and Naomi Campbell, they did like an autograph session where they sat at a table and fans came up, took pictures, yada, yada. And usually like, you know, when I did a, when I wrote my book and I did a book signing, like, you want to have a small conversation, even if it's like 15 seconds with each person, ask me a few questions, like, try to get to know them, like, personalize the interaction and then like, you know, take a picture, you know, Apparently Miley and Naomi were just like, talking with each other, signing the books and just like, not even interacting with the fans, which is like, obviously is going to come across a certain way. And listen, I get it. Like, maybe like, there's a lot of like, celebrities out there who are introverted, who like, are anxious and like, are not good at social interactions. Because, like, listen, fans can be kind of weird, you know, and they can, they can ask uncomfortable questions, but don't do that shit if you're not good at it, you know, like, you don't need the money.

[Claudia]

I feel like Miley Cyrus would be good at it. That's why I'm a little shocked by this. And maybe she just hadn't seen Naomi Campbell in a while and she was like, oh, my God, we have so much to catch up on.

[Nick]

Yeah, maybe she's, you know, maybe like.

[Claudia]

We, like, they, they realize that they should have gotten maybe a dinner beforehand or like a coffee beforehand to catch up and get that out of the way.

[Danny]

I do think Miley, though, care. Like, you remember when she just had her thing where people bought tickets to see her speak at a panel, but they thought that they were buying concert tickets and then they were like heckling, begging her to sing some of her songs and then she like, she did.

[Nick]

Like, she sang I'm Team Molly there. I think that was whoever was on the event, their fault. I think no.

[Claudia]

But to Leia's point, that does prove that, like she, she's not that she cares about her. She does care. Like, if that were me, I would have been like, I'm not singing. Like, y' all came to a talking panel. I haven't done my like, voice. Yeah, maybe exercises. I'm not prepared, you know, But Miley was like, you know what? I'll give it to you. And she gave them what? The climb. Like, she didn't just give them a we can't stop. She gave them the climb. Iconic.

[Danny]

Right? Right.

[Nick]

The best one is this story coming from like a 10 second video.

[Danny]

Well, she like seemingly has spoken out about the backlash. She said she added a photo of herself with Naomi and like a bunch of videos of like catching up with.

[Claudia]

You last night, girl. Let's do it again.

[Danny]

Yeah, she, she wrote. Our vinyl was originally set to drop a week later, but since we were both in London, Rough Trade east made it happen. Day of her caption began. I wanted to gift my Smilers an exclusive experience and unreleased vinyl to thank you for the love you've shown me in the UK over the years. I saw so many familiar faces and met some sweet new ones.

[Nick]

Is this story originating from like a 10 second clip or are there multiple accounts of like, like them ignoring fans for the entire length of this event?

[Justin]

I only saw one video.

[Nick]

Yeah. So this could be coming from one salty fan.

[Danny]

She's saying that the record store requested no photos due to the unexpected last minute turnout.

[Nick]

That makes sense.

[Claudia]

Okay, so the one person, Miley like turned to Naomi and was like, hey, girl, you have like a little spinach in your tooth. And then they were talking about how she has a spinach in her tooth. And then they, they. It was one fan.

[Nick]

You know, I changed my mind. I apologize for any of the criticism or anything I said that's felt like criticism. I feel like. Yeah, I feel like this is a handful of fans. Salty interaction.

[Danny]

Yeah. It's in one particularly awkward clip from her live stream.

[Claudia]

One. Yeah. Okay. Now we shouldn't have even talked about it, honestly. We gave him. We gave him air we didn't need to give. Sorry, I wish I had that back.

[Nick]

Paul's here. Let's bring in Paul. Share. Let's get into what many of you are here to talk about, to prevent. To share your frustrations. Talk a little. Love Island.

[Claudia]

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[Nick]

Hey Paul.

[Paul Scheer]

What's up man? How you doing?

[Nick]

Good, man. Good to see you.

[Paul Scheer]

Good to see you too. Thanks for having me.

[Nick]

Thanks for being there. Sorry we couldn't be there in person and we are off site, but thanks for coming in. It's great to talk to you again virtually. We're excited to get into everything we're about to talk about, but I just want to check in with you. Like, how's life? How have you been?

[Paul Scheer]

I've been good. It's so funny. I feel like I saw you for such a long time in a short period of time. But then it's been a, it's been a while since I've seen you. I've still not seen you in person. But yeah, things are good. You know, I got kids, work is good. I'm right now solo daddy because my wife has been away shooting a show. So that has been interesting and I.

[Nick]

Was actually gonna bring that up. Natalie took a work trip the other, you know, this past two days and I was solo daddying for, for only 48 hours. Shout out to the single parents out there.

[Paul Scheer]

Oh my God. I have such. I mean, look, I grow up, my parents were divorced. I had a mom and a dad that were both taking turns. But man, oh man, I always have respect. But once you do it, I've been doing it since March, it is intense.

[Nick]

Yeah, it's you, like, you love your kids and all, but like you just, you can't. When they're up, you can't like really focus on anything else.

[Paul Scheer]

No, you are just full in. It's like, it's when you have a kid, you're like your anxiety is always going to be a little bit like raised because you have to be responsible for another human being. And then when you are solo parenting, it never drops. Like there are moments where I'm like, oh, if I sleep in, June will get this. But there's no other person looking out. So I feel like my anxiety is so high. So when she comes home, it just like. I feel like I've been hit by a Mack truck. I'm like, oh, my God. For the first time, I can relax.

[Nick]

When June gets back, are you gonna be like, all right, I need to check out for like 48 hours and get some me time.

[Paul Scheer]

Or no, I can't do. But, like, you're so real. Yeah. I mean, I just. Yeah, but. But here's the thing. I. When she's home, I'm also excited. Cause we have the family back together. And it's great to have the family back together. But. Yeah, no, I. There's no. There's no. Like, now I gotta check out.

[Nick]

Yeah, no golf.

[Danny]

Check. Danny left for a week, and when he got back, I was like, I am not changing a diaper for the next 24 hours. I am not waking up. I'm not doing anything. Like, this kid is yours.

[Paul Scheer]

You see, June is really good because she definitely lets me sleep when she gets back, which is that, you know. And by the way, sleeping in now, as we all know, it's 6:30. Yeah, exactly, right? It's like. Like, somebody asked me how my day was. I'm like, my day is. It's 9am right now. I'm like, I've been up. I've done stuff. Life has. Life has happened. And to remember when life hasn't happened before 9am it's like. It's really crazy.

[Nick]

I took. I took river to the grocery store yesterday to try to get some groceries before Natalie got back. And river decided that she did not want to ride in the grocery cart. And I had to carry her the entire time. And it wasn't like a little fit. It was a screaming if I put her in the cart. And like, when you have a screaming child in a public area, you're like, please stop screaming.

[Paul Scheer]

It looks like you're kidding.

[Nick]

I'm a good parent. Like, please stop.

[Paul Scheer]

No. Yeah. I mean, a lot of my work is just convincing people in public that I am a good parent.

[Nick]

Because have you had your kids, like, come home and you realize they learned about a topic from, like, a friend that you were, like, not prepared for them to learn?

[Paul Scheer]

Oh, yeah. I mean, my son came home from school this year, he sat me down, and he was like, dad, can I talk to you about something? And I was like, yeah, sure. And he's like, you. You want to sit down for this? I was like, oh, okay. Oh, okay.

[Nick]

Yeah.

[Paul Scheer]

I was like, okay. And he's like, do you know about the Holocaust? And I Go, yeah. He goes, pretty rough. I was like, yeah. Like, my son is, like, trying to teach me about the Holocaust. And I was like. And that was intense. I was like, okay. Yeah. Like, so he's always dropping stuff on me. He's bringing a lot of heat, and then, you know, Nothing. He's only 11 and the other one's 8. So nothing overtly, like, sexual. Every now and then he might say, well, actually, he did say this. He goes, what's 69 mean? And that I really avoided. I just said, it's a.

[Justin]

It's a sexual position number before 70.

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah. He knew it was something with sex. So I have to, like, address that. It is sexual. But I think his knowledge of what sex is is also vague. So I just try to keep it vague. Everything is vague.

[Claudia]

Have you had the birds and the bees conversation with him yet, or does that come later?

[Paul Scheer]

No. You know, my wife is actually amazing because I think that she was very open about saying, when you have a question, we will talk about it. And my want is to do that. It's not. It's always a little bit uncomfortable, but it actually has been really great because she will just go there and it's not. It's kind of like I'm sharing with you information, and here it is. Yeah, it's neutral. And I feel like because of that, we've opened ourselves up to a lot more conversations. They're aware of things, but they're not deeply aware of it. And they know to come to us with questions like, my wife was like, you need to talk to him about pornography and how if he wants to watch it, where he can watch it and what. And we have to do ethically sourced. And I was like, oh, I don't even know how to find ethically sourced. Now I'm doing research on how to find, you know, ethically sourced partners. And she's like, it was easier for you back in your day. You could have magazines now. So, like. So we're trying to have these conversations. We're just trying to be prepared. We want to be parents that actually, like, biblical sec.

[Claudia]

No. How do you.

[Paul Scheer]

I'm trying to figure it out. It's not like going to Whole Foods. Yeah. You know, it's like.

[Justin]

Like, this is all my search history.

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah.

[Claudia]

Then your wife's like, what the fuck were you doing? And you're like, no, no, I was researching him.

[Danny]

Research. I promise it was research.

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah. So it's like, it is a constant. I love. I love having kids. It's a constant battle of Just being hit with things and you want to be a good parent. That leads. My parents never talked to me about sex. My parents never talked to me about anything like that. So you want to be open. It's just like when it comes to you, you are never fully prepared. You just aren't. But it is fun because I feel like once they know that they can talk to you, then it feels like hopefully that relationship will stay and they can have an open door.

[Justin]

Yeah.

[Paul Scheer]

You know, I don't think that my parents even know that I have had.

[Hannah]

Sex yet, you know?

[Danny]

Oh, oh, I hope not. I just had a kid, but I'm still hoping.

[Paul Scheer]

I'm like, yeah, you don't think that Immaculate conception. Exactly.

[Nick]

And if we, and if they know we had sex because we have a kid, it's only for the purposes of children. It's not for enjoyment. Like I definitely do not have sex to enjoy it.

[Paul Scheer]

Procreation only.

[Justin]

Procreation, not recreation.

[Paul Scheer]

Exactly.

[Nick]

Paul, you recently wrote a commercial for some prominent reality TV stars. Was it for Taco Bell? Am I remembering that correctly?

[Paul Scheer]

It's for Dunkin Donuts.

[Nick]

Donut.

[Paul Scheer]

Dunkin Donuts. Yes, Dunkin Donuts. There was a commercial we did called. It was basically a more than a snack. So it had like James Marsden, Charles Melton, Dylan Efron and Tramell Tillman. And yes, it was a hot commercial cast. It was insane. Yeah, so we, we did this like commercial where these guys are, you know, they're more than just hot guys. Which is very similar to Dunkin Donuts five dollar meal deal. Which is more than a snack.

[Claudia]

Yes. Wow.

[Justin]

I'm sold.

[Danny]

Listen, all you had to say to me was Dunkin Donuts, Dylan Efron and James Marsden.

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah, I mean they were the most attractive guys I've ever seen on set. I mean, you know, and when you're looking at them, you see everybody on set just like losing their minds. Because these are people that are so attractive that the men, the women, every children cars are stopping on the side of the road. It is, it is a non stop thing.

[Nick]

Natalie. Not too long ago I was like, I'm get back working out. We had Dylan on the show not too long ago. And then one day she sends me a text of this shirtless photo of Dylan. Looking great by the way.

[Claudia]

Yeah, I accidentally looked great shot at.

[Nick]

It and it was just kind of.

[Claudia]

Like accidentally made at my wall.

[Nick]

Well, like Natalie, you know, I met Natalie, what at 30, whatever. And she's seen, she's seen, she's seen, she's Seen photographs of when I was real. Real Jack. And I'm still in decent shape, but I just, like, don't have the time anymore. So she feels. She feels a little screwed over. Like, she didn't really get my best stuff, but she got. She sent me a Dylan inspo photo, so it got me Dylan grinding.

[Claudia]

I'm here to help.

[Paul Scheer]

Dylan can spend that time in the gym. We're talking about. We're dads now, right? We can't get in the gym that much. My wife likes my body for what it is, and she gives me a lot of crap when I get too skinny, so she's never really pushed me the same way. Yeah. Really? Okay.

[Danny]

Yes.

[Paul Scheer]

So, yeah, there was a time where I was losing too much weight when I was on Black Monday. I had to learn how to, like, rollerblade and had to be shirtless. And that was tricky for me because I'm leaving the shirts off to the people who are doing the work. My shirt off isn't gonna impress anybody. But I knew there was no greater motivator to be in shape than getting knowing that your shirt was coming off. And that was the hardest I worked. And I felt so good about my body. And I was like, here I am. And my wife's like, you're too skinny. And I was like, no, the one moment where I'm in.

[Claudia]

Let me have this.

[Paul Scheer]

Let me have this moment of being in shape. Yeah. So she has not sent me those pictures, but every now and then, we'll be watching, you know, some reality show, and she'll say something about, you know, whether it's a person on a reality show or whether it's an athlete, like, a lot of these soccer players. She's like, oh, well, he's hot. I'm like, oh, now I can't compete with that. You know, I'm always feeling. I'm feeling the pressure. I'm feeling the pressure.

[Nick]

Were you always a reality TV fan, or did June get you into it?

[Paul Scheer]

I think June has definitely opened my mind to it bit bigger. Like, when I was a. I grew up loving the real world. Like, that was my. That was my. I love the real world. I love the show called Sorority Life. I still talk about sorority life because there was a season. First season was like. Like, in San Diego and, like, hot young college kids running around. And then the second season, they shot in Buffalo, New York, during winter. So they went from, like, bikinis to people just in, like, parkas with hoods on. It was a terrible season of sorority life. People were depressed And I really, like. That was my stuff early on. Like, early on Survivor. And then I really got brought into Bravo, but I went to a different direction, which is I've been a big Summer House fan.

[Justin]

Same.

[Paul Scheer]

And I had to convince everybody to get on the summerhouse train. I was a huge Bachelor fan. We did a show called Burning Love, which was kind of a parody of that. Yeah, so I've always. Yeah, so I've always been a huge. I mean, reality TV is the best tv, because the emotions. You get so much out of it. I will say, you know, I know we all are Love island fans. I heard the interview with Jeremiah. You know, what's hard about a show like that, and I do watch it, is there's so much of it. Like, there is. Like, sometimes I feel like I'm like, there's more. Like, I need a recap. Cause it's like last night's episode or two nights ago was like an hour and 20 minutes. I'm like, this is. This is massive. I have to get through this two.

[Justin]

Nights in a row.

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah. Oh, yeah. You're getting. I mean, Love Island's on. I feel like, seven nights a week.

[Iris]

Oh, yeah.

[Justin]

I'm like, today's Wednesday, so we don't have an episode today. So now I gotta go over to uk.

[Nick]

No. Yeah. Sierra's on.

[Paul Scheer]

I'm still emotional. How do you find the time?

[Justin]

Where there's a will, there's a way. I'm behind on uk but, like, when I find an hour or two to just throw it in there, I'm cramming in as many episodes as I can.

[Paul Scheer]

Let me ask you a question, because I am still emotionally scarred from what happened, I believe, last week, where they were drinking milk and then spitting milk into each other's mouths. That is.

[Nick]

Wait.

[Danny]

And then pouring that milk, that regurgitated milk onto another islander.

[Paul Scheer]

I mean, it's. It was hard. It was like. There's nothing sexy about that, ultimately, I don't think. I mean, maybe I'm wrong. Like, look, that show, they're doing a lot of stuff that I'm like. Like, let's go for it. I've seen the way the tongues come out. I feel like I'm watching a horror movie.

[Danny]

They go right in with the tongues. I don't know if I like. I don't.

[Justin]

Were we trained differently? Because I thought it was lips first.

[Paul Scheer]

And then tongue is leading the way.

[Danny]

That's a special occasion. That's a special occasion. That's not an everything.

[Nick]

It's almost like a Key to unlock a door, you know?

[Hannah]

Yes.

[Danny]

It's right in. It's like.

[Paul Scheer]

I was like. That was the first kisses I was singing. When they had the. When Casa Amore and stuff. I was like, whoa. Like. And it does make me question. I've been married for a very long time. You know, I've been out of the dating scene for a while. I enjoyed my time in that. But now I'm here, and when I watch that, I'm like, wow, things have changed, and I would not be able to keep up.

[Danny]

That's safe, I think, with Love island, too. They're there like, okay, this is my chance to make him love me or her love me, and I need to prove it with this one kiss. So I'm just gonna. Full send.

[Claudia]

Do you.

[Paul Scheer]

I mean, here's a question that I feel with that show. If you're. A lot of these kisses are, like, blindfolded or you don't know who's kissing you and stuff like that, do you believe, like. Like, part of a good kiss is the connection that you have? It's not. It's not just lips, right? It's just like. It's not just a. Like. And that's what I think is so kind of hard. It's like, I think part of it is a mental. A mental and physical connection mixed, which is a great kiss, not just like, oh, they have a great kissing. I don't know. I don't. Yeah.

[Nick]

Well, I think that's why so many of the cast are able to, like, when they do the challenges. It's almost to your point. It's like, it doesn't really count because it's like. Like, it's just a challenge. It's like, I feel like it's like. Like taking a work trip to a city you want a vacation to, but you don't really get to sightsee, you know, it's just like, you didn't. You know, it's like, oh, I went to Hawaii, but, like, I was at a conference for three days, and then I flew back. And it doesn't really feel like you're at Hawaii, you know? I don't know. It's like the. They have these challenges, and they're making out with, like, each other's friends, but it doesn't feel like they're doing anything wrong because it's so aggressive. They're dripped in warm milk, and it doesn't feel like they're really making connections. And it feels like that must be what. You know, what it's like.

[Paul Scheer]

I guess so. I mean, yeah, I just don't think I've ever had that many. I don't know if you can have a connection just based on a kiss. I feel like. Because when that one guy in the last episode, when they're all blindfolded, he's like, that. Two, two, one. Yeah.

[Danny]

Fucking asshole.

[Paul Scheer]

I like tj. I like tj.

[Danny]

That was so annoy.

[Claudia]

But also, like. And I said this on the toast of, like, blindfolded kisses. It's like, you. You can't startle me and then try to make out. Like, I need a second to get my nervous system down, you know, Like, I need to relax. I'm like, my blood pressure's raised. I'm, like, a little, like, nervous. Like, I'm not ready to kiss you yet. You know, I need a moment.

[Danny]

Well, what about Nick? Just. Just, like, grabbing everybody's ass and it's like, you don't know who that is.

[Justin]

You're just assuming.

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah, there is, like, a. Like, I mean, I think that what you're saying is right about the idea that, like, they're like, I can do whatever I want. It's a challenge. But then you also see that, like, creeper side of people come out. You're like, whoa. Like, you're just gonna grab that ass right away. But I think you. I think you nailed it. With, like, the startling is, like, There is, like. You feel like these women are getting started when their asses are getting grabbed. These guys, everyone's getting startled. They're just on a high adrenaline run on this thing.

[Danny]

Yeah.

[Justin]

And I don't know who. Who I kissed. So there is no chemistry to be made after this. Even if you tell me, I'm like, I just kissed six people straight in a row.

[Paul Scheer]

They didn't even remember it.

[Justin]

Do I remember number three?

[Danny]

And they didn't say who was who. Like, they just left it right there. They were like, okay, so these were the women that you were kissing, but I'm not going to say who was 1, 2, 3, 4.

[Hannah]

Nope.

[Paul Scheer]

So odd. So odd. I do.

[Nick]

Paul, are you. Are you new to Love Island? Have you or have you been watching it over the years?

[Paul Scheer]

I am new to Love Island. So this has been. I have heard a lot of talk about it. A lot of my friends had had, like, kind of said, this is what you have to watch. And again, I'm home alone, and I'm like, love island is on every night. It's treating me good. So. Yeah. And last night, I watched a couple minutes of it with my kids, which Was a mistake. But I will say this.

[Danny]

You're gonna have a lot more explaining to do after watching the show.

[Paul Scheer]

But, yeah, no, I'm kind of loving it because it reminds me of the less serious reality shows that I love. I mean, that's what I kind of loved about, like, Bachelor in Paradise back in the day.

[Nick]

Yeah.

[Paul Scheer]

You know, and. And real, like, it's like. It just is, like, fun reality where there were no real stakes. I feel like there's so much drama going on right now and backstory on a lot of the shows. I love, and I love all that good stuff, but it's summertime. Let's just get some people making out and have fun.

[Claudia]

I have to say, it's not really gotten any fun recently. Recently, it's really made me pissed off. It's made me sad. It's like, not. Not the love island that it was last year. And I feel like they're doing way too much.

[Nick]

Yeah. So, Paul, the big controversy right now is like, so as you know, we're in Casa Amore, and traditionally Casa More is meant to, like, stir up the couples. Like, whether they are closed off or not, they're at this point in the season, there are usually couples that have, like, made some connections, like Sierra, Nick, for example, like Shelly and Ace, you know, Orlandria and Taylor. And then they bring in, obviously, these bombshells and they flip flop. And then they see if, you know, now that they're separated, do they make new connections? Do they make out? Do they kiss? Like, last season, it was a lot of drama, you know, and then. And then these couples, these singles, when they return to the villa, they find out whether they're, you know, their partner that they were in a relationship with, coupled up with. With before they left for Casa. Do they return single, excited to get back to that connection that they were in, or do they return holding hands with someone new to shake shit up? And then a few episodes later, there's this thing called movie night, where then they show clips of what happened.

[Claudia]

Well, they go before the movie, while they're. They're apart, they get, like, text messages of videos of pictures of what their person is doing at Casa Amore or back at the villa with the new bombshells. So maybe that they get a video of, like, Nick making out with Jaden. And then Sierra's like, you know what it now I'm, like, really going into with.

[Paul Scheer]

Right. So she's able to go off.

[Nick]

Yeah. And it's always like, you know, it's like, out of context stuff. So like, maybe there's more, maybe there wasn't more, but it really fucks with these people. This is the part of the season that people, like, anticipate, wait for. It's like the. It's the heart. It's the center of the watermelon. You know, it's like. It's the best part. All of a sudden, they're just, like. With the whole format, all Casa More has been all this constantly recoupling. Like, we called Leia last night, and Leia made a great point. It's like, they're not focused on, like, making these new connections with the Bombshells and. And Casa More. They're just trying to survive, right? They're like. It's just like, oh, if you don't recouple in 24 hours, you might be gone. It's just like. So it's just. It's all just gamesmanship. And now you're eliminating. No one believes that Nick and Alandria are actually being dumped. The Instagram, the social pages of Love island usa is basically, like, everyone's freaking out online. Everyone's pissed. There's a lot of accusations of overproduction, overproducing, and, like, they're already basically saying, like, you know, not so fast, or, like, crypto. They're basically telling us there's more to the story, as if, like. Like, you know, because they know, like, they're losing a lot of people.

[Claudia]

But, like, why piss off your audience? You know, a scripted bit, especially with.

[Justin]

Casa, a scripted bit at the end of an episode is like, that. That's insulting.

[Paul Scheer]

Yes.

[Justin]

Thank you.

[Paul Scheer]

Well, this is. I think the. I think the issue that I'm noticing is no one really seems to be having, like, real connections or really connected. So it's like the. I think that they're putting all these games in there because no one seems to. There's no weight. And, you know, so there's something about this new Picassa Amor, and when they got to mix it up, I'm like, oh, are these people better? Because I felt like all the guys are better in Casa Amor, and I felt like a lot of the women were better. That came over. Like, I feel like we may need to, like, sweep some of this stuff out the door a little bit.

[Justin]

And they got rid of, like, all of the people who had real connections.

[Nick]

I know that was crazy.

[Paul Scheer]

And that was the thing I was so bummed about. I could not believe that Jeremiah. And Jeremiah was. I liked him. I felt like he was getting a connection. I felt like he got Done dirty.

[Justin]

A little bit by all the guys.

[Paul Scheer]

And I was so. I don't know. I just feel like this season has been while fun. I don't feel like anyone is liking anybody really.

[Danny]

Well, I also feel like part of the reason for that is because I don't know if. If this is accurate, but I feel like there have been more dumpings this season.

[Justin]

Almost so many being at Casa more.

[Hannah]

Why?

[Danny]

Well, they're not dumped. You know what I mean?

[Justin]

But I'm like, for all of that drama but like.

[Danny]

But I know for a fact that Alandria and Nick are not dumped because Ariana said everyone was going to be coming back and they never used the word dump. They just said leaving the villa, whatever. Nonetheless, the islanders knew that there would be a dumping. The islanders thought that there would be a dumping. And so they're all like, oh my God. In order to come back to my real connection or in order to come back or stay in the game, I have to recouple. And so. So it's very forced. It's like everybody feels like they have to constantly be in a couple. So they're either forcing it with who they're with or they're forcing it with who they feel like they can be with. And they're just all forcing it because they want to stay in the villa.

[Paul Scheer]

To. My question is to what end? Because it feels like they're just kind of waiting for somebody to come in there because there are these a couple of real connections. I'm curious where it goes. I really want to get behind the scenes and talk to the person who composes all the music because I've been in love with whatever those songs are.

[Nick]

Yeah, they really. It really hypes you up.

[Danny]

You guys. My most recent Spotify play is Love Island USA playlist.

[Paul Scheer]

Oh, I.

[Nick]

You gotta send me that. I feel like I wonder if it hits the same just listening to the songs because it just.

[Danny]

You know what? I'm imagining the scenes in my head when like a. I'm like, this is a fire. Like, this is a fire. Fire pit moment.

[Paul Scheer]

I love it. Come to the Sierra.

[Nick]

Sierra. As someone who watches a lot of uk, you know, it's just like, do you think Love Island USA is casting way too many, like already influencers? Like Ace, I think had like 900,000 Instagram followers or something like that before 1.1 million. I mean, I get everyone, everyone, everyone who's in their 20s as online nowadays and anyone like, who. Who's like, like a hottie usually have some kind of like, micro following, but, like, can't they find. Aren't there enough of, like, hot people who want to be famous, who aren't already, like, know how to, like, who are so brand conscious, who are so, like. I just feel like Ace is too. He's too plugged in, you know, and I feel like he's almost kind of poisoning the well. And everyone's following Ace's lead and about how to play the game rather than making connections and. And, like, really get investing in these relationships.

[Paul Scheer]

Well, this is. I feel like there's a thing that goes on with America, which is we don't trust our audiences to fall in love with people we don't know. Like, I love. I first started watching the British Traders and, like, there's a lot of normal people on British Traders. And then they have a couple, like, British celebrities. And then when they do the American version, it's. It's a lot of influencers. Celebrities, reality stars.

[Danny]

Interesting.

[Paul Scheer]

And. But the one version of Traders that's the best is the Australian version. Version. It's all just super normal people and it makes the gameplay so much better. It's like. It's an electrician. It's, you know, it's like, it's just regular people. And then the show is way better because they're not savvy at all. That's what the original Real World was.

[Justin]

Not savvy 100%, because that's the UK version of love island to go to your answer your question. It is. They're landscapers, they're nail technicians. They're coming in for a real connection. They're not coming in for the following. They know that that's a part of it. But they're also there for two months. So it's like, I feel like they really lose sight of, like, a prize at the end.

[Paul Scheer]

Right.

[Justin]

And they just are there to, like, connect with people and they really fucking mean it because it's like they're vulnerable and they're in this environment.

[Paul Scheer]

They're not thinking about what happens when I get off the show, what the.

[Justin]

Audience is thinking about. Like, a lot of the times they're almost, like, reminded when they do have a game where, like, the audience will weigh in on what's been happening or.

[Paul Scheer]

Like, well, that's why Huda is definitely not voted off. If she's got a follow that I was like, well, she's definitely the one we're gonna kick off.

[Justin]

She's got 1.1 million followers on Instagram. Yeah, that's what I'm Saying I'm like, I don't. I think knowing people who have seen this show and seen what it can do for people, yeah, they're like, great. So I didn't get the clout or the. The level of fame that I'm getting on my own. But with Love island, it's national, it's worldwide, that it's like, now I'm getting the recognition or, like, the following that I think I deserve. But it's like, you're not actually here to fall in love.

[Paul Scheer]

You're not doing the game. You're not doing the actual thing.

[Justin]

Go on, producers. Go on, Big Brother.

[Danny]

Go on to do that. Because then you have people like Jalen who have.

[Nick]

Have.

[Danny]

He's, I think, has surpassed any of the people in the. You know what I mean? Following. And he came on as, like, this trucker.

[Claudia]

Truck driver.

[Paul Scheer]

Now, let me ask you this. I love Ariana Maddox, like, great, all. But when Megan the Stallion came on, oh, my gosh, this is what this show needs. I need some emotion, people.

[Danny]

She was. That was the best episode of the whole season.

[Justin]

Yep. Hands down. Hands down. She literally owned that. All of the islanders were having fun, letting loose, and I'm like, this is what I want to see. I'm so tired of Te every episode.

[Paul Scheer]

And that's. I think that I've heard that also last season, the women had a much stronger connection. And this season, the women are kind of forcing that connection to feel like they are, like, last season, falling on.

[Danny]

The floor, having a full breakdown when Alandra was sent home.

[Paul Scheer]

Oh, I mean, that was wild. That. That whole thing. I felt so bad for Zach. British Zach, you know? Cause it's like he stood up, and I was like, oh, that's really cool. This is an exciting moment. And then. Then it just felt like he was left out. Like he did something terrible.

[Justin]

He's like, Manchester. He watched the real UK when he's like, I'm supposed to be making decisions for myself.

[Paul Scheer]

This is, like, a thing, right? And like. And it's like. And I look, I love Alandria. I was. I'm bummed if. If she's not gone or she's gone, whoever. But it's like, I'm bummed. But I also was like, that was cool. That was. That's what we want. We want that moment. We need that thing. And he's just sitting there like. Like he was a bad guy. Yeah, he's not a bad guy.

[Justin]

No. He's there for love.

[Nick]

I liked his speech, though. Like, it was the first Time. It endeared me to him because before that he was kind of clunky and like, when out with Amaya, he. He, like, weirdly was like, don't say anything. I'm like, why we keep this? This is on tv. This is. Why are we keeping it a secret?

[Justin]

Yeah, there's five cameras in this room.

[Paul Scheer]

Yes.

[Nick]

He was very endearing in that moment, and I thought it was very sweet. But, yeah, I don't know. Like, yeah, they're, they're, they're limiting some of their best people, like Jeremiah. Like, I think I feel like Jeremiah was really genuine and like, he was trying to make connections and he was, like, being blamed for having the face that he had and all the girls liking him. And, you know, I mean, the fact.

[Claudia]

That Sierra defended their decision by sending Han home of being like, Hannah got to experience two really great connections with Charlie and with Pepe and like, Iris and Amaya, you two deserve that too. It's like, that's not what Love island is. If you can't make a connection, you go home. If you do have a connection, you stay. Like, why? I don't understand these people. And then Huda and Casa Amore pulling JD to be like, so I guess you already know I'm a mom. And then gave us another, like, selfish explanation as to, like, how she's a mom, why she's a mom, her dating, her being like, yeah, no one's ever really had a problem with me being a mom. And like, I'm dating to marry. Not once mentioning, like, I need someone who, like, you know, gets along with my daughter. I need someone who understands what it's like, you know, like to. To be involved with a five year old. It means this and it means that, like, gives zero explanation about being an actual mother to a child. It's just so selfishly, I'm a mom.

[Paul Scheer]

The biggest red flag I got in that interaction was, and again, I'm terrible at names. I just know by, like, distinguishing characteristics that that guy that she said that to was like, yeah, I don't actually, it doesn't make a big deal to me if someone has a kid, because it's not about that. I'm like, whoa, whoa.

[Justin]

It's kind of about that.

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah, it's kind of.

[Danny]

That is crazy.

[Paul Scheer]

I was like, what do you mean? It's not about that. She's saying, I'm dating to Mary. Like, yeah, that's fine.

[Justin]

I love it when they.

[Danny]

Whatever. I've dated a mom before. It didn't really matter.

[Nick]

Do you want to make out or.

[Paul Scheer]

You know, he treated it like she was divorced. Like, he's like, I don't mind if you were married before. Like, he was like, no, no, no. This is a child that lives in her house. And that's. I do think, like, it was tough because I don't know how you feel about this, but, like, Jeremiah was put in this situation where I think that they did have a connection, but then she got very needy, like. And I still feel like she wasn't really over him, but I do feel like people really were. Like, they're rooting for her to find love, but she. This is not the place for her to find love, in my opinion. I feel like she needs to find somebody else off this show because the show is built not. I don't know, I mean, maybe it will be at the end, but it's like, she's not gonna. Like, she's too jealous or too much like, you're my person to make the show, like, to be enjoyable character. I don't know. I'm like, I want her off so bad. Although now she's coming alive a little.

[Nick]

Little bit.

[Justin]

Now she's, like, mellowing up. But that's because we're just mad about the whole show in general.

[Nick]

Yeah, listen, she. She's been insufferable. But I also think. I think she's very necessary now more than ever for their show because I think she's one of the few people we are getting authenticity from. Like, you are just getting her right. Real reactions. And I feel like so many people on this show, like, I think we all love Shelly, but, like, Shelly doesn't give us anything. I mean, other than, like, Demir, you know, she. You know, she seems like a class act. She seems like, you know, I'd want to be friends with her, but she's not exactly captivating television.

[Justin]

And also, like, I feel like last season, what was so cute was watching from both sides. Like, you're watching either, like, the. One of the guys or one of the girls. Like, Kendall being like, man, I really hate watching Nicole talk to that guy. Like, I feel like I have a clown nose on my face. You get these really sweet, like, vulnerable moments. Like, Cordell being like, you don't have a clown nose. Like, you beer nose. Like. Like, it's like you're not seeing these people invested in their partners at all, that it's like they're not talking to somebody else. Being like, man, like, I really like her, but I sad she's going on this date. Like, it's like, the guys cried more about when Nick went home.

[Paul Scheer]

I was like, this feels like the biggest breakup of the season. I was like, you know, like, I love you, bro. I love you, bro. And it's like, you're the best connection I've made here. I'm like. And that's what I feel like is going on is, like, them. They are a group amongst themselves. Like, it's. They're not. Not really sharing in that middle ground. And that's a bummer because I think people came in hot. Like, I liked Emily a lot. I thought Emily, like. But then when they sent Charlie, it was a Charlie, right? Yeah. When they sent Charlie home, I was, like, bummed about that because I feel like it's just. It just feels like they are keeping and getting rid of the wrong people 100%.

[Nick]

Especially Taylor, Nick and Ace. They really give, like, high school friendships, you know, just like, very catty, very clicky. You know, it's just like, there's no. Like, when you hung out with your boys every day. And, like, you.

[Paul Scheer]

You.

[Nick]

You dated your friends. Like, when you. Before. You, like.

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah.

[Nick]

Were independent. Like, you were. You. You go to the movies with your guy friends. You'd go to dinner with your guy friend. You know, like, that's who you really connected with when you were that young. And these guys are just. It's. I don't know. It's too. It's too high school.

[Claudia]

I also hate that they're giving all of the new bombshells, men and women, like, the power over the OGs and, like, the people who've been there. It's like, why are you letting casa people. Yeah. Like, pick who they're. You know, it should be the other way around. Like, why are we sending home. Oh, geez. And not casa people? It's just.

[Danny]

It's.

[Claudia]

It's weird.

[Danny]

Listen, I am all for the producers, like, throwing in some twists, but not with casa.

[Justin]

Yeah.

[Danny]

Casa Amore is the twist, right? This is the twist. This is where you test the relationship. This is where the islanders get to make the decision for their. Themselves. To your point, Natalie, if they want to stay with their OG couple or move on with or bring somebody else and explore them, that's the twist. Stop fucking with the format of Gaza.

[Paul Scheer]

Well, let me ask you about what happened in that episode where it felt like they only had one. Like, were the ones. It was Amaya, right. Was the single. Like, she was single, so she had to stand up, and then all of a sudden, that switched to a land. But on the Guy side, it felt like everyone got a chance to get up in front of the group. Do you think that was an editing decision?

[Danny]

No, I think that had somebody gotten up and chosen Alandria, it would have been okay.

[Paul Scheer]

Okay. It would have kept on going. Okay.

[Danny]

Yeah.

[Nick]

It really makes me more sus about when they voted off Jeremiah and Hannah and they didn't give, they didn't show any of the conversations and how those groups came to the decision. Like last year when they did that, we got to see that was like a big storyline about how, how the women came to that decision and who was like leading the conversation. And it seems a little fucked up now more than ever, you know, now that we're kind of criticizing producers for overproducing, that they're just, I don't know, like they're not. You know, I usually like to defend producers and I feel like sometimes the hardcore reality TV fans, like love, they love the behind the scenes conversations too much. They love the conspiracies, you know, the blaming producers for everything they don't like. But when I think there's a lot of times, like I've become more familiar with like reality TV shows and I've been shocked by how much they don't produce and how much they're not involved. But like, I really think, you know, times have changed where they really try to be hands off, but like, it really is giving from this show right now that the producers are, are just too, it's like they're too online. They're reading Reddit, they're reading Twitter, they're. They're on Tik Tok, they're following fan reactions and they're making too many reactionary moves trying to like, appease fans where like, just like, just trust your process, trust your format, trust, trust the casting and let, and let them do their thing.

[Claudia]

They're also being like, way too messy with their editing, it feels like. And I think the audience is catching on and the audience is being like, you know, like there was a scene where when Jeremiah came in to give Iris breakfast and it showed like him walking into the room and there was no Huda. And then it shows like Huda giving a stank face and it's like, but she wasn't in the room. And then it shows like Hannah talking to the girls, but then in the reflection of the window it shows Shelley and Alandria and you see Hannah in the reflection and her mouth isn't moving. You know, Know, like it's, it's. They're getting really sloppy with their like cutting and pasting and editing that it, it feels very like not what it was.

[Paul Scheer]

Do you think that that's part of the daily nature of the show or like whatever the four times a week that it's on. It's like they're, that they a can react in real time, but also the show is sloppier because of that. Because they are, they don't have enough time to kind of finesse moments. So they have to, of kind, kind of, they have to kind of create a story because they need it to be fulfilling at an hour and they may not have all those pieces together at that point.

[Nick]

I will say I am less critical of editing like that. I only say this because I think the best reality TV shows and the best reality TV producers like they, they want to show you the authentic story in a perfect world. They cast the perfect group of people and they give and they're just in, they don't edit themselves and they're all, you know, but that doesn't always happen. And you know, at the end of the day they have to make a TV show. I think sometimes editing will try to in this limited time as many. Even though we have an episode every night with Love island, we are still only, you know, airing an hour of what is 24 hours of footage that they have. Right. And so sometimes when they are showing, you know, like they, they cut to Hooda giving like kind of like a resting bitch face reaction to, to a moment and then you realize that she wasn't in the room in that moment or whatever. Like I think often a justifiable reason is they're trying to convey the sentiment of what was going on in that room despite maybe that footage that they chose to use didn't like quite capture that. Does that make sense where it's just like, yeah, maybe that didn't happen this way. But that was still like the vibe.

[Paul Scheer]

Right.

[Claudia]

I feel like it's them playing into like the hood is crazy like conversation that's happening.

[Nick]

Sure.

[Claudia]

In and outside of the villa. Like they're, they're, they're giving audience more examples of Huda being quote unquote crazy.

[Paul Scheer]

Exactly.

[Nick]

Because that, but, but my point is, is that that was what was going on in the villa. Like when I interviewed Jeremiah, I asked him, I'm like, hey listen, like a lot of people are having these reactions with Huda. Like these are, this is what they think. You know, we know that things can be edited is the fans sentiment. And what we are seeing on this TV show from what you saw. Is that what you experienced? And he confirmed that. Yeah, that's. That's how it was. And I'm just saying, like, sometimes, you know, and they don't have the perfect footage to just, you know, they have a limited time, so they have to, like, maximize what the audience or what is that feeling that is happening, and they sometimes have to edit. I'm. You know, does that make sense?

[Paul Scheer]

It's like the Cliff Notes of. It's like the Cliff Notes of the day.

[Nick]

Right.

[Paul Scheer]

Like, this is essentially the emotions that happened. We can't show you all the intricate details, but, like, this. Trust us, she's mad, he's okay. This guy's a jerk. Let's go with it. And they're trying to craft something within that.

[Danny]

They don't have very much time either. It's fast turnaround.

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah, it's so fast. And I also feel like some of these guys aren't giving full. I don't. I don't. Like, this is one of those reality shows where I don't feel like I know everybody. Like, there's. They're even withholding with the audience. Like, the guy. I call him, like, Bobo Owen Wilson, the guy was cleaning the pool. What's his name? Austin. Yeah, I love Austin, but, you know, Austin. Austin. You know, I'm like, I don't know what he is besides us. Sort of like, oh, yeah, well, I hope this girl likes me. You know, it's like. Like, I feel like they're. They're. We're not finding out. So maybe the people that we are finding out the most about are the ones that we're irritated with because they're just like, I am this one thing. I'm going to say this one thing over and over and over again, but, like, sometimes I'm just watching. Just watching a lot of tongue.

[Danny]

Oh.

[Justin]

And I will say that, like, UK does a really good job because they also have a bonus episode. I think that's also why their seasons are, like. They do a bonus episode called Unseen Bits. So the entire episode is just clips of the islanders that we didn't see throughout. And it's like random, funny moments. And it's like you kind of get to see another side of their personality outside of, like, what the storyline. Drama is where I'm like, here we don't have that. And they play little clips. Yeah. During, After Sun. But I'm like, you don't get to see that there's a full, like, 24 hours that these people.

[Paul Scheer]

Who are these people?

[Nick]

Right.

[Justin]

A Funny side, like, we don't get to see any of them.

[Danny]

Like, Big Brother and I used to do this where. When I was, like, super into Big Brother, they have, like, a live feed where you could.

[Paul Scheer]

Oh, I remember the best.

[Danny]

And I used to do that. I used to sit there and just watch.

[Paul Scheer]

It was the most fun. It's like, of course, keep those cameras. We should have a camera running on Love Island. Why not, right?

[Danny]

Should be like a paid. This would be a great way to make extra money, peacock. Just, like, charge an extra subscription.

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah.

[Danny]

And people could just watch the live.

[Paul Scheer]

Feed or just don't. We already are paying for it. Just give it to us for free. Let's give us four cameras. That's all.

[Justin]

We don't even need audio.

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah, we don't need the audio. Everyone wants those birds. When we watch a bird come out of the nest. Bird up in California. Yeah.

[Justin]

The bald eagle's gonna have his baby in nine months. And we set up this time. This time lapse camera.

[Nick]

Well, despite our Love island venting session, I. I mean, I. I mean, the audience is invested, and I'm. I'm definitely gonna be, too. I can't. I can't wait for Thursday, because I want to know what.

[Paul Scheer]

That was the biggest cliffhanger this season. I think this was, like, my second favorite episode because it was like, okay, now stuff is gonna happen. It feels. Feels like this is the biggest moment of the season coming back from Casa More. I hope I. I hope.

[Nick]

I hope so.

[Justin]

Yeah, let us down.

[Nick]

I want to believe that they're gonna, like, yeah, they have a big plan. Maybe we don't understand it. We're a little triggered right now, but I think. I think all our gripes are valid, and I feel. And if they're gonna, like, if producers are gonna produce, I want them to just, like, talk to the cast and say, hey, you need to lean into these relationships. You really need to go for it. You guys are being a little too safe. Safe. You're not, like, you know, just say that. You know, tell them to, like, be vulnerable and stop worrying about friendships and, like, you know, stuff like that. And have people, you know, tell them that Hood has, like, got the big, you know, the biggest following of them all. Because, like, they all. I guarantee you it's clear that everyone in the house has a strong opinion about Huda, and they're judging her, and they kind of are kind of like, sticking their nose up with Huda, and I get why, but she's also, like, other than Jalen, she is Getting the most follows. Like, she's the biggest star. Like her or hater. Whatever you think of Huda, she's the most talked about.

[Paul Scheer]

I mean, she's a villain. I mean, not. Not that she's a villain, but I mean, she is kind of serving that role. Like you're watching her because you're frustrated by her a little bit. And. But now I do think that based on that last episode, I like the guys that came in a lot. I'm like, ooh, these guys seem like they have a little bit more. Yeah, the basketball team, they're very tall, very muscular.

[Justin]

When you said six, eight, I was like, for real?

[Paul Scheer]

I know. I was like. I watched that and I was like, like when they show them together in those poses, I'm like, this has made me laugh so hard. But. And so I am hoping that that will carry over because I felt like I saw something real. And that to me speaks of good producing, which is like, okay, maybe these are not the right people for them. And instead of just like attracting them by like body, they brought in people that are attracting them by mind a little bit more. And I feel like that there was something about that last episode that gave me a lot of hope for. For where we go. And then also all the fallout is going to be intense.

[Danny]

Yeah. Well, my prediction for what's going to happen is that they're going to bring Nick and Alandria back and it's going to be like a big recoupling where it's going to be kind of up to the OG like Taylor and Sierra to either save them or stay with their neighbor.

[Paul Scheer]

Do you want Nick on the show?

[Danny]

He's pretty to look at.

[Paul Scheer]

He's pretty to look at, you know, but he's. But he also, he's. He gives me nothing. And he's also, exactly, to everybody. Everybody's point. He's the one who's not taking any of these relationships. He's like bump, bump, bump up all over the place.

[Justin]

Sierra bawling, like, missing him. And he's over here like, well, you know, we're gonna be.

[Nick]

That's what sucked about him leaving right now. Again, who knows what's gonna happen? But like that, you know, Sierra was that one person who was freaking out and emotionally invested in her relationship with Nick and she was all in. So whether Nick was not like Nick was given like Aaron from last season season where he's just like out there. Like Sierra doesn't even exist right now in his world. She's crying about him and even Though, like, Nick's kind of a fan favorite right now. Like, you know, like, Aaron was early in the season, it had the opportunity for like a great movie night where, like, Nick's like making moves that's gonna piss off Sierra and a lot of people. And then now all of a sudden, like, he's leaving. He gets this like, you know, hero exit. Everyone's crying, and then he runs. I just. Just like, I. I will say I'm exhausted of the hood of villain. Like, I want one of these guys to really step in it and not be protected by the click. You know what I'm saying? I want.

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah.

[Nick]

I want these guys to be the boys that I guarantee you that they are.

[Paul Scheer]

Well, I mean, and there is something funny because, I mean, Nick is like. Nick is a boy. I mean, right? I mean, 100. My favorite moment was when they're posing in the photo booth and he's like on the verge of tears. And then that the camera went to Florida. Flash is like, smile. A big smile. Like, big, big smile. Like this motherfucker. But, you know, like, I do feel like these other guys feel like they have a little bit more emotional depth and maybe we'll get some switching up of things. Because I agree with you. Like, I'm tired of it. I just feel like. But I don't know if that's. This is. I'm a new. I'm a newbie to the world. So I am enjoying it. But I'm like, I. At. At 20 episodes in. I think I should feel a lot.

[Justin]

More emotionally one couple that you're rooting for that you really want. And it's like even a laundry of being safe. I'm like. Or whatever their twist is going to be. I'm like, I feel like Taylor doesn't deserve her.

[Danny]

No.

[Justin]

Taylor said another girl is her in another body.

[Danny]

Like, so annoying.

[Nick]

Taylor's blind.

[Justin]

You know, like blind and stupid.

[Nick]

Moving on from Love Island, Paul.

[Paul Scheer]

Yes.

[Nick]

I understand that you also a bit of a true crime fan and you've been following the Karen Reed case and Sherry, who we recently interviewed. I don't know if you had a chance, by the way.

[Paul Scheer]

I did listen to it. I'm obsessed. My wife got me into true crime. I fell head over heels into this Karen Reid thing. Cause I watched the HBO Max documentary. I couldn't stop watching it. And then all of a sudden, second trial, listening, watching every person from Boston who has a TikTok. That's like, all right, let me tell you something.

[Hannah]

Yes.

[Paul Scheer]

I install garage doors. And in Canton, everyone's a swinger, you know, so I'm. I got deep into Karen Reed and yeah, that was. Was that really took over a large chunk of my time that Diddy and Sherry Papini. But Sherry Papini on here now, I know this is your guest. Do you have a guest on this show? But she. I am so mixed on her. I'm so mixed. I was suckered into the first doc. I followed that story. Then I suckered into her doc. And there's a part of me that goes, wow, I believe that maybe some of this. But then there's a part of me going, like, I don't know though. Why isn't she pulling up charges on this guy? And this guy seems so matter of fact that if he was doing all this. But then my favorite moment was at the end of that doc when they go, hey, so we did some research and is it James, her boyfriend who kidnapped and James mother is not Mexican. She's like, okay, yeah, well, okay, well, I met her.

[Danny]

That's your whole smoking gun.

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah. And she's like, well, I met her and I know she looks like the way that she responded so quickly to, like, hey, by the way, the one thing that you said is a total lie. She's like, yeah, yeah, but that's not important. Don't worry about it.

[Nick]

When we had her on our show and we kind of got on that topic and then she dropped at like, the entire neighborhood, allegedly knew that she was sitting out there. And I'm like, what? Huh? That doesn't make any sense.

[Paul Scheer]

She switches it up whenever she gets in a corner. And that's what I thought was so fascinating here. I'm like, you are like, I'm a fan of this show. I love that interview. It's like. But it's. She's slippery and you, you dealt with her in a really good way, but it's like, you can't kind of corner because once she gets cornered, she just. She's like. And as a matter of fact, yeah, she's like, oh, as a matter of fact, my husband's actually having an affair with my sister. Wait, wait, what? And it's like, oh. And as a matter of fact, like, you just like, she drops another bomb. And it's like, it's perfect liar mentality. And I hate to, because I don't want to never. Like, I don't want to assume, but man, oh, man, it makes it hard for me to believe anything.

[Claudia]

I mean, with the sherry papini of it all, I think it you know, I think the James. I think he is guilty of clearly something. I think the fact that she was able to. Whether she asked him to do it or he had kidnapped her and did it on her own, like, the bruises, the injuries that she came back home with, she could not have done to her so herself. So I agree. The fact that she was able to ask him to do this, and he was like, okay, sure, like, that's a bad person. It's the same thing with, like, the Gypsy Rose of it all. Gypsy Rose asked someone to, you know, kill her mom, and that person was like, sure. You know, you ask anyone else, and they're like, oh, my God, babe, like, let me get you some help. You know, like, I'm not the person. Well, I can't do that.

[Paul Scheer]

Here's a question I have because I do agree with you 100. But devil's advocate on this, I will say this.

[Claudia]

He doesn't.

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah, you could never. You could never. Like, you would never. No one ever would ever ask me, can you please brand me? And I'd be like, okay, right. Like, I. Like, I can't. I can't go that bridge. So I believe you're right. But do you think that there's a little bit of manipulation? Like, this is a guy that had a crush on her when they were in high school together. They were, you know, like, do you think that there is this, oh, my God, this girl who liked me finally is giving me attention? I guess I will brand her. But I mean, I still.

[Claudia]

To me, it was less of the branding and more of, like, the broken nose with the hockey stick, you know, Like.

[Paul Scheer]

Right.

[Nick]

Yeah, there was a lot. Yeah. I. My. My take on. On Sherry Papina's whole situation. I. What I believe is that she has probably encountered several bad actors. Whether that's her original husband, a boyfriend, her parents, I don't know. She clearly is a person.

[Claudia]

What, actors or apples?

[Nick]

Bad actors.

[Claudia]

Actors.

[Nick]

Yeah, bad actors. Bad people.

[Claudia]

Bad apples.

[Nick]

Whatever. Not great people. She's encountered bad people.

[Paul Scheer]

People.

[Nick]

However you want to say.

[Claudia]

I think it's a couple of bad apples there.

[Paul Scheer]

There. You could say actors. You could say apples. There's a.

[Claudia]

Interchangeable.

[Nick]

Yeah, I believe they are either way, bad people. She's.

[Paul Scheer]

She's.

[Nick]

I. I think she is definitely a victim for sure. Like, I don't know when, how many times. I definitely think she's someone who's been victimized in her life, and I have a lot of empathy for that. I also think she's an absolute liar, and I think she's also. Which is very common, I think she's also someone who's victimized a lot of people in as well. And I, I.

[Paul Scheer]

Right.

[Nick]

When we interviewed her, you know, it's like you said. You said it's tough. You know, we're not. We don't pretend to be journalists on this show. When we get an opportunity to interview, we. You know, a lot of our interviews are light and fun, and we're talking, like, drum. We were talking reality TV in Love Island. And then we get some opportunities where, like, you know, these are serious topics, you know, in serious conversations. I just, you know, you. You just want to ask the questions that you want, you know, people are asking, and then you just kind of see how this person answers it, and then this. They respond on and. And. And let the audience decide. But, like, there was a vibe in the room that, like, there's an energy that was very uncomfortable, at least. You know, I. I thought when. When Sherry was there, I just. What I thought was kind of an icky feeling.

[Claudia]

Crazy. And I even asked her this of like, so you. You know, she just kept saying, like, I didn't want the emotional affair that she was having with James to, like, her kids to find out. And so I'm like, the police sat when you were in that interrogation room. They're like, by the way, like, if you lie to us, like, you will be arrested. Right? This is a crime. Just gonna put that out there. If you lie to us, she's like, okay, no, for sure, right? And then she's like, I'm like, you were more afraid to tell your children that you had an emotional affair than go to prison and, like, be away from your kids.

[Paul Scheer]

There's something about her, and I think maybe I'll say it's like, she's like, one fourth the truth and three fourths like, a lie. And it's like. And it's hard to tell which part is the truth and which part is the lie, because you see all that footage of her, and you see her lying so openly and honestly. And I do believe, yes, maybe her husband is kind of a jerk and an asshole. And I. And I believe that to be true. And I do believe that she definitely orchestrated this thing. And maybe what she orchestrated got out of hand. But I also want to. To know, like, what I do. I am like, we'll never know what happened. And I mean, and the fact that that other guy, the. The guy that kidnapped her, like, he's not. No one's asking him any questions. It seemed like, he did one lie detector test, and they were like, done. Got it.

[Claudia]

That is weird.

[Paul Scheer]

But it's. It's weird, right? It's. It's like. It's like it was, you know, obviously, Karen Reed. That whole story behind that is like, you know, to a certain extent, the police didn't do their job, or they did it in a way that was ineffective or. Or they. They didn't go the full distance. And I feel like that's the same thing that happened here to a certain extent. Like, they just took this guy, gave him one lie detector test. I think that they knew that she was lying or they made that decision early on. It was like, we're just gonna drive right into you. And. And. And then that's. And that's a bummer, too, because it's. It kind of gives this guy off. Gets this guy off. If he did do this. I don't. But it's so hard.

[Claudia]

There is also, like, the video footage of the investigators or police going to talk to James, and they're like, by the way, if she asked you to hurt her.

[Paul Scheer]

Right.

[Claudia]

That's not a crime. Like, you're not in trouble if she asked you.

[Paul Scheer]

It's like, yeah, they really. They really led him.

[Claudia]

Yeah.

[Paul Scheer]

In that way. And then it's like. But then it's also like. Then she said, oh, I want to go home and see my kids. And he's like, okay, I'll drive you home. And I'm like, like, what? Like, I don't. I just didn't. Like, there's so many parts of it. And that's why, like, you're talking to her and. And she says things so, like. And that's why I was really interested. Cause I was like, oh, the documentary is one way. And then listening to her on the show, I was like, oh, this will hopefully be a little bit more casual. She'll be like, you'll get different things from her. But I think in her personality, that's part of her. She's slippery. She's just slippery. It's like. It's a tricky person to kind of figure out if she's using you. And you don't want to get too close, because at one point, you will become the enemy. And that's somebody that I think we've all seen seen in different relationships throughout our entire lives.

[Nick]

Yeah. Well, Paul, thanks for breaking it all down with us. This has been super fun. We appreciate you coming back.

[Paul Scheer]

I'm so excited to be here.

[Nick]

Yeah. Where can people find you?

[Paul Scheer]

They can find me. On social media, Wherever you get your social media, I'm on there. Just Paul Scheer. I have a book called Joyful Recollections of Trauma. New York Times bestseller. Very excited.

[Hannah]

Congrats.

[Paul Scheer]

Thank you so much. And. And, yeah, and then I'm on tour and popping around in Portland and Seattle and Vancouver, so.

[Nick]

Well, Paul, this has been tons of fun. I hope you come back soon and anytime with the single dad duties. Man 40.

[Paul Scheer]

Appreciate it.

[Nick]

And, you know, props to you.

[Claudia]

You crushed it, honey.

[Nick]

Well, thanks, but it's definitely. It's just not easy. It's not.

[Paul Scheer]

Next time I. Come on. I'm gonna take. I'm gonna take the challenge. I'm gonna take the Dylan Efron challenge. I'm gonna get a AB.

[Natalie]

Oh, my goodness.

[Paul Scheer]

A AB for you. By the time I come back, once.

[Nick]

June gets back and settled in, we would. You guys are welcome to come back together, too. We'd love to have her on as well.

[Paul Scheer]

Oh, my gosh. That would be a blast. Well, definitely when Traders comes back, I.

[Nick]

Want to get on the show. Let's break it down.

[Paul Scheer]

Yeah, I'm ready. I'm ready for it.

[Nick]

Would you ever do Traders, man?

[Paul Scheer]

You know, that's the one show that I'm, like, I'm always nervous about. Like, would I do a show? That one seems really fun. Yeah. You know, I'll tell you the person I want to do, Traders. I want Jeff Prost to do Traders as a contestant. I would love to get, like, hosts.

[Danny]

That's a great call, right?

[Paul Scheer]

Wouldn't that be awesome? Like, I think, like, get those people who really work their connections. I, I.

[Danny]

You know, the ones who are used to hosting the games and not playing them.

[Paul Scheer]

Yes, 100%, because they also understand the mental manipulation and stuff like that. I. I would fold. I would come across as the worst version of myself on any reality show. Props to anyone on a reality show for bearing themselves in such a way. Like, the emotional moments. Like, you know, obviously, like, people are crying. You're. You're seeing every. It's. It's a part of myself I would never want to show to anyone. So God bless everyone. Even on the Traders, you see these moments where, like, and you can imagine six months later, like, why the hell was I crying? I voted off the show. Thousand dollars. Like, all right, I'm so. I lost my fat to get 2,000 bucks cares.

[Nick]

Well, Paul, appreciate you coming in on, man. I hope everyone go follow Paul, check out everything he's doing, and we'll. We'll see you Next time, Paul.

[Paul Scheer]

All right, see you. Bye.

[Hannah]

Bye.

[Nick]

Up next, Hannah from Love island joins the Vile Files to talk about her unceremonious exit from the villa, her thoughts on why she was sent home, how she's feeling now, will she get back with Charlie? All of that and more. And then after Hannah, we will break down the Valley next gen. And we also have the stars of McBe Dynasty premiering on Bravo, Stephen and Kala. All of that following Hannah. But right now, it's Hannah time. If you're running a business, you know that every time you have a missed call, you are leaving money on the table. When every customer conversation matters, you need a phone system that keeps up and helps you stay connected 24 7. That's why you need Open Phone.

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[Hannah]

Yeah, I didn't know you were doing one clap. I thought it was like multiple.

[Claudia]

We're just syncing audio.

[Nick]

We're just thinking audio.

[Claudia]

Oh, okay, everyone, see, I'm already programmed.

[Hannah]

To, like, clap on the queue, you know.

[Nick]

All right, ready to rock and roll?

[Hannah]

Yeah, I'm ready.

[Nick]

Hannah, welcome to the show. So glad to have you. We're excited to talk.

[Hannah]

I'm so excited.

[Claudia]

No, I have so many questions for you. I love you so much. Please tell are going to rekindle with Charlie. I need to know right now.

[Hannah]

You know, I am still completely disconnected from the outside world. I have no clue what's going on. I know. No clue what's going on in his head. I think it's all kind of whatever happens is supposed to happen. I don't think I'm going to force any of my connections outside of the villa because I didn't do it inside.

[Nick]

But, you know, but let's just. Let's just play like a game.

[Hannah]

Yeah. Okay.

[Nick]

You get your phone back, back. You got like three message from Charlie, a couple dms. He probably doesn't have your number. And he's like, when and where, girl, I. I will come to you. Do you say yes?

[Iris]

Yeah, of course.

[Nick]

Okay.

[Hannah]

I like, we were like in our own world the whole time. We were always laughing. We had the best time. We seriously did.

[Claudia]

We had him on the show a couple episodes ago and he said that he was obviously watching the show and he said he would skip past your part.

[Hannah]

Oh, that's sad. Like, meanwhile, me, I only watched my part.

[Claudia]

It was like after he left, he was like, I didn't want to see her with Pepe, so I would just fast forward.

[Hannah]

Oh, wait, that's really sad. That makes me really sad.

[Claudia]

Oh, sweet.

[Hannah]

I'm like, I'm sorry, Charlie. I really did talk about him all the time.

[Nick]

Well, that being said, I mean, like, you know, we get it right. It's Love Island. Things move fast. But, you know, now that you've got a taste of both of these, you know, handsome men, which direction are you leaning?

[Hannah]

No, no, no.

[Claudia]

Who were you more upset?

[Nick]

Yeah. Okay.

[Claudia]

To leave Pepe or for Charlie to leave you?

[Hannah]

I feel like I'm going to hurt Your feelings with this one?

[Nick]

No, not at all. We don't care. Listen, we just want you to be Hannah. We just want you to be happy, Hannah.

[Hannah]

Yeah, definitely. I think I was more sad to leave Pepe.

[Nick]

Okay.

[Claudia]

Do you think you are more sad to leave Pepe or more sad to just be, like, abruptly ejected from your environment and the villa?

[Hannah]

Yeah, I think that also plays a part in it, but I also think, like, there is a complete other side of, like, me and Pepe's story that's just, like, nobody knows about my reality, and my experience is really different than what I saw. I'm like, it looks like he hates my guts, but I promise, like, it's way.

[Nick]

Well, give us. Now's the time. Give us a little bit of that insight. Like, you know, give us the. The, like, the Hannah and Pepe love story.

[Hannah]

Yeah, I think he. Honestly, I don't even think there's a word in my vocabulary that would, like, articulate and illustrate, like, the connection that we had. I think we. It was so, like. I don't even know the word. Like, ambiguous. We had, like, really, like, silly. Like, banter. Honestly, like, we bullied each other a lot, but it was, like, it was all fun and games, and that's what they showed. Like, they showed us, like, bullying each other, but it was always just jokes or, like, we'd flip each other off, like, across the villa. But then, like, we would have these really serious moments. And I honestly was never not reassured by that man. Like, if he was gonna go talk to somebody, he'd be like, by the way, I'm gonna go have this chat. Like, I'll come back and, like, let you know everything. And before the recoup, not recoupling, whatever. When I got sent home, the elimination, he sat down with me after, like, it was right before. It was literally right before I got eliminated. And he was like, I don't know what's happening tonight. He was like, all. I know that if this happened, this is like, I'm leaving tonight, and this is the last chat that I get to have. Like, I really wanted to have it with you. And so in my mind, I'm like, we're fine. Like, we're, like, the strongest couple. Nothing's gonna happen. And then I think it was just a really big shock. But there's so much that I hope that I get to see, like, little behind the scenes, because we would just stay up all night talking all night. Like, literally, the sun would be up, and we'd get, like, 10 minutes of sleep. And be delusional. I think that's why we were like so delusional all the time.

[Nick]

Tell us something about Pepe. America hasn't been able to learn yet.

[Hannah]

He surprised me way more than I ever thought he would. He's so different and I think everyone in the villa can like attest to that. He's so different than what I thought when I originally had like connected with him. He is so sweet. He's like literally such a man, he's such a gentleman moment. He's so reassuring to everyone. Like he always is checking on everyone. He literally like Charlie gets sent home and he's comforting me for hours and like making me a bunch of food.

[Claudia]

And I think that honestly came across. I think America was like, he seems just like a really, really nice, sweet guy. I think that did come across. Have you wrecked your brain on why they chose you?

[Hannah]

You know, I was kind of waiting to get clean clarity from like watching the episodes and I never did.

[Nick]

Let's be honest, Hannah, they've fucked you over.

[Hannah]

Yeah. I mean it hurt a lot. And like those were my friends and I don't think our friendships were really shown as well either. I was really close with all them. I was really close with Huda, but I think I was really mad at Huda the last couple days I was in the Villa.

[Nick]

Did it make you question the genuineness of those friendships?

[Hannah]

No, because I, I know that it's. We have no sleep and like we're all kind of deluded half the time. Like we don't know what's going on. And like, yeah, I was really, really upset. But I think it's just conversations that we need to have like post Villa. You know, I think we all had talked about like watching the show together and being like, wait, wait, wait, wait. This is what I meant when I said that, you know, because we say a lot of shit we don't mean. There was a lot of Hurricane Hannah's throughout the villa that weren't shown. You know, I like had my crash out moments.

[Nick]

But let's be real here, like between like we all thought like, and we loved Iris. She seemed like a chill person.

[Claudia]

We didn't all think Iris. Iris stood on the front lines for Hurricane Huda and took one for the team by being partner. I just thought we thought Amaya. Well, I think a lot of people didn't really have.

[Nick]

Well, there was a case for either. And no disrespect for any, we were fans of all three women. But like Iris was in a relationship or Kind of with Jeremiah. She wasn't really making a lot of connections. She had the buddings of a match with Jeff. Jt, Amaya had been striking out, like, I think a lot of frustrations with America right now is there's not a lot of, like, connections being made. Right. People aren't, like. It's just a lot of friends and, like. But you've been. You've been really trying, and you've been really making these connections. And so of those three women, you were the one that, like, had something going with Pepe, and so it just, like, made no sense why they chose you. And it seems kind of messed up.

[Hannah]

Yeah. Iris is such a sweetheart, and I think that she'd be. Really does deserve that chance. I think she deserves that opportunity because she did have something going with tj. It's just not really blossomed yet. And I think she was just a sweetheart. And, like, I defended that girl to the end of time. Like, I was sitting there, like, waiting for them to reveal who they had chosen. I was like, please don't. Like, I don't want it to be Iris because she just hasn't had her time yet. I think Amaya, too, like, she's. Oh, my gosh, that girl is full of emotion, and I just think she really has not found her connection yet. So although I didn't think it was going to be me, I really didn't want it to be them either. I didn't want it to be any of us. I knew it was going to go one way or the other. But I think what had bugged me is it said that, like, it's. I don't remember who said it, but they said there was more effort from Iris and Amaya, which I just don't think is true.

[Nick]

You were the only one in a relationship.

[Claudia]

Yeah.

[Hannah]

Because even still, I was still exploring. I had a conversation with tj. I wasn't really feeling it. Me and Jalen did several times try to have talks. There was just not really time because I was, like, the one that's like, I'm gonna talk to literally every single person, and whatever works out will. But, like, I never had to force my connections. They just kind of fell into place. And it was so beautiful, and it was an amazing experience, but I do feel like it was cut short.

[Claudia]

Yeah. I think it was Sierra who was trying to justify the decision by saying, like, you were so lucky to have these two amazing connections, connections that, like, the other two women deserve that chance. And it's like, you don't get sent home because you have a connection. You get sent home because you can't form a connection. So it was a little like. I think America definitely was. Was very upset.

[Nick]

We were pissed.

[Hannah]

Yeah. It did make me sad because Sierra's like, my big sister. I feel like we have, like, she was really reassuring of me, and she would always, like, whenever I was down, she really have a lot of talks with me. So it does. It. It does hurt. But, you know, at the end of the day, there's nothing I can do to change it. And I just had to move forward.

[Nick]

Mature answers. Did you see last night's episode?

[Hannah]

Yes, I did.

[Danny]

I was.

[Hannah]

I was freaking the fuck out.

[Claudia]

Were you crying? I was crying.

[Hannah]

I was crying. I was like, no, because Alandria. That is my fucking girl. That is my girl. Like, she got me through all of my funks in the villa, and she's the funniest girl in the fucking world. And Nick, too. Nick. Nick was, like, one of my really close friends as well.

[Nick]

And, like, I was.

[Hannah]

I was like, what the. Like, I was like, send that back home guy.

[Nick]

So we don't know what's going on, obviously. It doesn't seem like they're actually gone. Who knows what. What the producers are cooking up. I like. America's a bit frustrated with them messing with the format of Casa More, but, like, you know, whatever. I guess we'll see. Maybe we'll be happy in the end. That being said, it's. It's interesting that it was Orlandria and Nick getting in the car together. I don't know if you're aware of this, probably not, because you don't have your phone, but there's been a lot of, like, fans, like, kind of sipping the idea of Alandria and Nick. They, you know, whether it's in the games or, like, just, like, little looks that, you know, maybe they're catching in the villa. But, like, there's a lot of people, like, kind of speculating. There's, like, this hidden love affair between the two of them. Does that make any sense to you whatsoever? Is there anything there? Could we be surprised? Is this what the producers are cooking up for us? What do you have to say about that?

[Hannah]

Oh, my gosh. There is. It's really hidden. And maybe I'm oblivious, but.

[Nick]

Okay.

[Hannah]

I mean, I know you, like, would make out with her in challenges, but, like, challenges were challenges. We just made out with everyone. Like, it was literally just like, a big makeout session.

[Nick]

All right. Okay.

[Claudia]

So you didn't see any, like, flirtiness going on between the two of them that made you think, oh, maybe Nick's a flirt.

[Hannah]

Nick's. Nick flirts with everyone. Nick would flirt with, like, a brick wall. But I don't know. Maybe there was, but I really could not say.

[Nick]

Yeah, well, you left right before Casa More happened, and I know that you had something nice going with Pepe. That being said, were any of the men that entered in Casa Amore. Did they. Any of them kind of pique your interest? Do you think? You know, which of the guys do you think you would have gone for?

[Hannah]

Yeah, they. It was like, they were all cute.

[Nick]

We want names.

[Hannah]

I think Eland was really cute. That's who I was drawn to when I was watching, and I was like, damn, I missed out. But I really do like my connections that I did have.

[Nick]

What are your predictions about what's going to happen next episode?

[Hannah]

Damn. Hopefully we find out what's going on with. I think they're either gonna have Nick go to Casa and Alandra go back to the villa, maybe spice that up a little and see.

[Danny]

Yeah.

[Hannah]

But I don't know. I feel like that would be a little crazy. I hope that Sierra gives a little bit more of an opportunity to Eland, because I feel like they kind of have this similar vibe. That's really cute. I don't know. I'm like, I'm. I'm just as curious as you are, because now I'm like, outside of the villa, I'm like, I don't want to know. I don't want to watch.

[Claudia]

Have you been? They haven't shown a lot of it, but Grayson and Peggy Pepe are obviously coupled right now. How does that make you feel?

[Hannah]

Oh, I was skipping through that whole episode trying to find it. I'm like, damn, there's nothing. I'm like, maybe that's a good thing. But he did say something that was like. It's weird, like, waking up in bed and, like. And it's like, not her or whatever. I think it was cut off. I don't know what the rest of the sentence was, but I was like, oh. Like, I just. You know, I try not to think about it too much. I really think he deserves happiness now, no matter if it's with a new connection or whatever. I want him to have the best experience in there.

[Nick]

But what do you really want? Do you, like, are you just more like, this is like, Love island and that'll stay in Love island, or would you be really happy if Pepe came out looking for you?

[Hannah]

Yeah, that would be Nice. But also, I know how much one conversation can change everything. It's literally like one day to the next. You could feel completely different. And. And I think coming out, I was like, I don't know what's going to happen with. I had two really, really great connections, and I don't know how either of them would play out in the outside world. But, you know, he. We did have, like, plans together, like, for when we were out, so hopefully those fall through or follow through. And if not, then, like, I really enjoyed that experience with him, and I learned a lot.

[Nick]

Okay, all right. You gotta ask. What.

[Hannah]

Oh, shit. Oh, shit. I know what's coming.

[Claudia]

I almost forgot. I'm like, she's so sweet and innocent and just fitting in the hand. Were you, like. Did you need, like, moisturizer or your hands, like, a little dry? Did you forget about the cameras? Was it. Did you feel like it's so.

[Nick]

Or did you just not give a fuck?

[Claudia]

Yeah, okay.

[Hannah]

For one. Yeah. I. I feel like I was, like, somebody who really forgot I was being recorded, like, all the time, even. I think Pepe was saying, like, at least we got our mics off. And I was like, like, there's mics in the headboard. And I think, like, I thought we were being discreet. I really. And when I saw that I was gagged, I was like, no, I really thought, like, nobody's gonna have a clue. Nobody's gonna.

[Claudia]

I mean, it was just like, the combo of, like, you sitting in your hand and then just, like, his body just back and forth.

[Nick]

I'm like, did she just. Oh, is this. Oh, my God.

[Hannah]

There's a lot of spitting for me, this.

[Nick]

Did it last longer than 26 seconds, though? Because Nick. I only asked because, like, Nick wouldn't shut up about how brief his interaction was.

[Hannah]

I don't know. I think, yeah, it's probably longer than 26 seconds. I don't know. I was like. I would think I was on high alert the entire time. I was like, what the.

[Nick]

When I got to ask, because, like, you guys are all sleeping in the same room. Are people, like, when. When shit's going down? Like, are. Are your bunk mates like. Like, covering their ears or are there. Are there jokes being made? Are there, like, little snickers? Like, are people, like, do they know what's going on?

[Hannah]

I think nobody ever knew that me and Pepe were intimate at all because we would stay up for hours talking. Everyone is already asleep. Before, like, anything like, that was probably, like, three hours after we went to bed.

[Claudia]

Did you ever Hear Huda and Jeremiah because they were before you.

[Hannah]

Yeah.

[Claudia]

You did?

[Hannah]

Yeah, I would sleep with earplugs.

[Nick]

Really?

[Hannah]

Yeah.

[Claudia]

Did it help or you like, was.

[Nick]

She, was it like she wanted people to know?

[Hannah]

Oh, I don't really know. I think they just kissed really, really loudly.

[Nick]

Okay. All right. You mentioned earlier that you were, you were mad at Huda the last couple days. I mean, obviously hurricane Huda, she's made a lot of, lot of work waves. But was it just because of everything that we're seeing and why America seems to be frustrated with her? Are there, are there specific things that we didn't get to see that was frustrating you about Huda?

[Hannah]

Yeah. You know, we were the two hurricanes of the villa. I think that's something me and her always joked about that we had our own crash outs and hurricanes.

[Nick]

Two very different storms. I gotta be honest.

[Claudia]

Yeah, yours is like a light drizzle.

[Nick]

Maybe yours is like, oh, it's raining. Oh, fun. I love thunderstorms.

[Iris]

Rain boots.

[Nick]

Yeah. Hoodas was like, oh, my God, are the windows closed?

[Hannah]

Like, but I think we, we, we bonded a lot. We had a lot. We actually, like, had a lot to talk about and we were really close, but I was really close with everyone. I think we honestly really had like, really good sisterhood. I think partial reasons why I was mad was I was really good friends with Iris when she came in and I don't think she was treated fairly. But what I do need to like, know is like, emotions are really high and I feel like we don't really think very logically.

[Nick]

Yeah, that's, that's fair.

[Hannah]

I was really, really mad at her just like, because we did have like a lot of conversations about like, my connection and like also her connection. I feel like I was there for her a lot. So I did feel a little like, I guess like blindsided by everything. And when I left, she was like, just let you know, like, I didn't. Like, we didn't send you home because of like us being like in a fight. And I think like, we never really got our closure with that situation because she tried to like, talk to me. Right. My elimination. But it was like a group setting, so I was kind of uncomfortable just because, like, I don't want. I would rather talk to her like one on one because I feel like that's when we really like got together the most. I think there is a lot that's not shown, but she's a mother and like, I think mamacita, but I think that she really deserves to have Like a comeback story now that Jeremiah's gone and like, really find somebody that, like, maybe it won't be in the villa, but like, you know, use this experience to really learn and grow from it.

[Claudia]

Some people seem to think that the reason they chose you is because, you know, Sierra had just had a conversation with Nick where she was like, I want to be closed off. He was like, no, I want to be open. And then Huda obviously did not have any connection. So a lot of people are maybe thinking that they wanted Pepe to the themselves. Do you find any truth in that or do you think that's just ridiculous?

[Hannah]

I know that Sierra was interested in still getting to know Pepe. I just don't think there was ever really a time for that. Just because, you know, we were really. Because we talked all. Me and Pepe were talking all the time. So maybe potentially I don't think that there's really a door open for Hood and Pepe at all because I think he was pretty.

[Nick]

Yeah, he seemed to slam that, at.

[Hannah]

Least from what he told to me. He was like, no, not. That's not going to happen. But, you know, I would hope Sierra wouldn't do that to me. But you know, I can't control anyone else's feelings. And I think with Pepe, he was very much like, I'm not going to force a connection with anyone that I don't have. So, like, if something blossoms from that, then like, it's what is supposed to happen. It's what's meant to be.

[Nick]

I know you have to get going real soon, but hopefully. Final question, kind of a two part question.

[Hannah]

Okay.

[Nick]

Other than yourself, because, like, you know, after Hooda swerved and kind of went for Pepe, you at least, you know, said something to her like, like respectfully confronted her. But I think America in general will seem to be a little frustrated with just the collective group of the women. Like, we understand they all want to support each other, but we wanted like some of you women to kind of check Huda a little bit. Did that happen that we didn't get to see or. Or was Huda just like, kind of like hard to check?

[Hannah]

I did a lot actually. And so during the milk challenge, I got milked for like two chicken to speak her mind. But I actually told. Told Iris to pour it on me because I'm like the one that stands on business. I address everything right away. I think there was a couple clips like, during when Iris and Huda were having that conversation in Soul Ties and Hooda was like, oh, that's my dream date. And I was like, girl, we didn't plan the date. We didn't even know we were going on the date till we woke up. But they didn't include that. And I think when she was telling Iris or saying like, Iris isn't a girl's girl, and I was like, how is she not a girl's girl? Like, she's like, she was forced into a couple. So there's a couple times, like, I think we all. Yeah, I think Shelley especially would also stand. We all did.

[Nick]

Okay.

[Hannah]

We all would say things and be like, girl, you've been crazy. But like, we were all being crazy at times. Like, just the name of the game.

[Nick]

Do you think you'll be friends with Huda post show after the show?

[Hannah]

I think that we needed to have like a chat, like, completely offline, off camera. And I really did have a good connection with her, but I think I was really hurt. And that's things that we need to talk about, but only time will tell. I don't know how she's going to feel outside. I don't know what's going on outside. I have no clue what anyone's perception of anything is. So it's a little like you're just kind of sitting there in your room by yourself, like, thinking everything's crazy and.

[Claudia]

You don't know, but you can sleep good at night knowing that everyone loves you.

[Hannah]

That makes me feel better because I'm.

[Nick]

Like, oh, my God, listen to someone who's been in your shoes before. Not Love island style, but, like, just have fun with this whole experience. Like, stay offline, truly. Like, people are fans of you. People might say shit online. Who gives a fuck about any of that shit? Like, we had so much fun watching you. You were an absolute delight. You played the game right. You went for it. Like, you know. You know, you should be proud of how you carry yourself. And we're big fans.

[Hannah]

Thank you.

[Nick]

All right, Hannah, appreciate your time. I know you have to get going. Best of luck going forward. We hope to see you again somehow, some way on our television set. Maybe with the Love island challenge or whatever. Maybe there's an after show next season. You never know. So we'll see you around and best of luck.

[Hannah]

Thank you.

[Nick]

All right, take care. Bye Bye. All right, finally we're getting into the valley here. Honestly, the only thing I want to talk about is that stupid man therapy. I mean, this. I don't. This. Who is this guy who is like, you know, he looks like the American Idol winner. What's his name?

[Justin]

Chris Daughtry.

[Nick]

Chris Daughtry. His clone, like, life coach that, like, Jesse keeps bringing along. It's like, are you a life coach? Are you a bro? Are you part of the friend group? Did they just, like, at one of the guys in their friend group, be like, hey, do you guys want to be. You want to be our therapist? We're to a.

[Danny]

Like, when I was taking notes on this episode, I was like, therapy, fake.

[Nick]

Fake rehab, life coaches. What. What is like.

[Claudia]

And the way he was like, so what we're gonna do is you're going to tell me all of the things that you are struggling with, and that's called a list. It's like, that was crazy. That was crazy. It's like I make one of those.

[Justin]

I said every day.

[Claudia]

A list. Like, groundbreaking Virgo. And that's called.

[Justin]

I make lists in my sleep.

[Nick]

You know that every. Listen, if you're in your 30s or older and you hang out with your boys like you did in college, you're a loser.

[Justin]

Word.

[Nick]

You're just like. You're supposed to mature as life goes on.

[Claudia]

I don't think any of these guys are in their 30s. They're all in their 40s.

[Nick]

Whatever. I'm fine. But that. That makes them more losers. I. You know, I just, like, at some point, you have to, like, grow out of old relationships. Like, I'm still, like, friends. Friends with. I have. I have friends from high school, but we don't talk every day. You know, we have lives, you know, we are. You know, and maybe if. Listen, if you're not lucky enough to have a family or maybe you chose not to have kids, they're filming a.

[Claudia]

Show, they have to hang out.

[Nick]

I don't give a. But, you know, but, like, the way they bond like this, it's just like, why can't they have some more? This is who this group is.

[Claudia]

I actually don't think they hang out that often when they're not filming. It's like, I don't think they're that good a friend.

[Nick]

I don't do think they're fine. Maybe. So maybe it's just a show. But, like, I do think there's a lot of. I think there's a lot of, like, adult couples out there that, like, still need to hang out with their friends more than they should, don't. You know?

[Claudia]

I mean, if they want to hang out with their friends, I guess I don't really care.

[Nick]

Their friends. But it's just more like, this might be a show, but there is A legitimate group chat of these guys that is a daily chat that they talk about that. That's a real, real thing. You know, that it's like, I. I don't. I just don't think, like, people who, like, have lives and who, like, are invested in, like, they're like, are. Are waking up and messaging in some, like, 20 deep group chat, like, with, like, locker room jokes.

[Justin]

And to your point when Jesse was like to Luke that you're loyal, your.

[Danny]

Blind loyalty to your wife, your girlfriend. Yeah.

[Justin]

Like, where it's like, because he's in a healthy relationship with his girlfriend before your needs, Jesse. That's what you're supposed to do in a mar. Rich, let alone a relationship.

[Nick]

Yeah. I want to preface, like, Luke. I think Luke's being dragged down by these men. And Danny seems like an all right guy. A father of four who, like, signed up for a show that he probably regrets doing. The way the amount of times Danny has to apologize to this fucking cast is fucking crazy. He's apologizing every episode. He's the only one who actually takes accountability. And it's for the dumbest fucking shit.

[Claudia]

They still don't let it go. At the Mexican restaurant, Janet is pissed off again about. About the same old shit.

[Danny]

That's what my biggest gripe with this show is right now, is that I feel like we're still talking about the same drama over and over and over and over and over again. Like, why is Janet bringing up the wedding ring again?

[Justin]

And who's bringing it up over and over and over again?

[Danny]

It's like Janet knows that they're filming a reality show and she needs drama, so she's just, like, bringing shit up for no reason.

[Justin]

Yes. My boyfriend actually made an astute observation, and he was like this. She doesn't fit with what's going on in this scene. And I was like, yes. It's like watching a Real Housewife of New Jersey having lunch with Real Housewife Waves of Beverly Hills.

[Claudia]

Yeah.

[Justin]

Like, it's just like you were just yelling at nobody at Dead Air, and.

[Danny]

Kristen's not even there anymore. She got up and she left five minutes ago. I don't know who you're yelling at.

[Claudia]

Is that she's done. Like, she's done with the tear. She's done with it being intense. She's done with this, she's done with that. It's like, okay, then if you're done, then shut up.

[Justin]

Yeah, be done. Literally, we're waiting for you to be done.

[Claudia]

And then she's like, in the Next scene, she's like, I guess I really hurt Nia's feelings because she got up crying. It's like, oh, so you do care that she was crying? Or you can't take it when she cries? When it gets too intense, you can't do the tears. Like, which one is it?

[Justin]

Or is it that not enough people, once she left, had your back? They actually said to you that was kind of fucked up. And now it's like, oh, I guess I'll have some level of humility and take it back. I'm like, you're making this woman cry. She's been through enough. Like, no. And the whole thing is you're. You drink too much. Isn't your whole gripe with everybody else is that they drink too much and that they're not in control of their behavior?

[Nick]

We gotta. We gotta get Luke on the show. I want to get. I want to see. I want to hear what Luke really thinks of these guys. Yeah, I. I feel like he would talk some 100%.

[Justin]

I also. One thing, just going back to the counselor. Wasn't this counselor Jesse's failed marriage counselor with Michelle, it was first season. He. He failed at keeping your marriage together. He's your personal therapist. You've shown zero growth. And now we're going to do a really.

[Nick]

A therapist.

[Claudia]

My life coat.

[Justin]

No, he.

[Paul Scheer]

He's.

[Justin]

Yeah, he's not giving certified. It's giving accountability. Coach.

[Claudia]

Yeah.

[Justin]

It's not a real job.

[Nick]

I mean, it was. It was stupid.

[Claudia]

This, Honestly, the show. I'm done. Like, do you want to talk about being done? I think I'm done with the show. It's so boring. It's so predictable. It's so dark. It's so, like, it's not a fun watch. It's like every time I watch, there's.

[Justin]

Nothing, like, pissed off.

[Danny]

It's all. It also feels like Groundhog's Day. I'm like, what? Didn't I see this already?

[Justin]

Well, it kind of feels like gross too, because I'm like, whether Dan. I mean, Danny seems to be supporting his family, doing well as a family man, but it's like they got him to essentially admit about, like, hiding his drinking on camera. And it's just kind of like I'm like, okay. And now.

[Danny]

That was the biggest breakthrough.

[Justin]

Jason's like, this is so great. This is huge. That he admitted. And I'm just like, why are you trying to put this on national television? Like, if you cared about this person.

[Claudia]

Then you would want them to work.

[Justin]

On that on their own.

[Claudia]

Like, you don't treat your actual friends. Friends this way.

[Justin]

But then you support Jax the day he gets out of rehab, being like, oh, yeah, nope, you've got a drinking problem. Like, I wouldn't be pointing fingers, sir, while we're work in progress for the last 15 years.

[Nick]

Yeah, it's. It's crazy. Moving on to next gen. The only thing I. My biggest takeaway this episode, the only thing I really wanted to discuss is I. I've. It was a room. I don't think I'll do this as a parent, but the way I really empathize for Charlie, I mean, his dad seems like a real prick. And Leon.

[Claudia]

Charlie's awful. Harley is awful.

[Nick]

Yeah, I know, but he's like, I get why he's awful. I get why he's like, you know what?

[Claudia]

Actually, now I kind of do want to fuck Ariana.

[Nick]

No, he is awful. But he is clear. His. His dad is like in every scene. He clearly like, is wants to be famous. He's obviously the successful business person. And the way he competes with Charlie is gross. Like, I just got to be a parent who competes with your kids is.

[Claudia]

Asking such an of the early twenties, twenty year old girls, like, who's more attractive, me or Charlie? They're all like, oh, it's.

[Nick]

That's, that's. That's why Charlie is the way he is. His dad, like taught him. His dad is an who basically said, you have to be an. And. And his dad is, you know, obviously professionally successful. And so Charlie, his whole life has been, you know, he might be a prick, but when they interview Charlie and he's just like, he has more memories of dad. Like, he doesn't know what it's like to feel love from his father. It's like, it's kind of sad and you know, it really makes the Mr. Marks, you know, quirky, but a good dad. He seems like a loving father, but. Yeah.

[Claudia]

What is this drama going on with Gia?

[Nick]

Well, she doesn't think there are taxes in Jersey, which is also not true. Well, I mean, only maybe in their household.

[Claudia]

So did you see up on that local news channel and they were like.

[Justin]

Like, she's like, that is not what I signed up for.

[Danny]

Earlier this month, there were rumors swirling that Gia was fired following a cheating scandal at her university.

[Nick]

Why would the show fire her?

[Danny]

Sounds like it was all speculation.

[Claudia]

Yeah. What?

[Danny]

I don't know.

[Nick]

It sounds like it was all emotionally abusing his wife. Like, I don't think they're gonna, you know, Gia for cheating on a test.

[Danny]

Sounds like it's all speculation. And Andy Cohen is saying that he's. He's not a producer, but it's of Next Gen. But it's the first time he's hearing of any discord.

[Nick]

What happened was that people were speculating.

[Natalie]

That was fired from the cast of Next gen for end quotes, inappropriate behavior.

[Nick]

But Andy was like, I don't know if any of that to be true, but I'm also not a producer.

[Claudia]

Wait, so inappropriate behavior at school or.

[Nick]

I don't think she's fired. I know it as, like, with the cast.

[Paul Scheer]

She's not.

[Danny]

No, it's all.

[Justin]

It's supposedly a cheating scandal, but she said I'm not fired from Bravo and the cheating scandal is just not true. That never happened. I also graduated two years ago, and the story. And this story came out, like, two weeks ago. So, you know, the math is just not mathing. People are just bored. They don't have anything better to do or say or post. But no, sadly, guys, I'm still on Bravo. Sorry to break your hearts.

[Claudia]

Sadly, guys, I'm still on Bravo.

[Justin]

She is Teresa's daughter.

[Claudia]

For real.

[Nick]

Well, she's definitely one of the stars. It honestly, like, you know, again, it's. I'm not totally invested yet in the show. Like, it's. It's a fun watch. He still has the glitz and glamour of New York. It does seem like it's a cast of, like, Charlie aside, like, decent people, which, yeah, you know, says a lot given, like, they've had some wild upbringings.

[Justin]

And some of them have, like, crazy jobs, you know, Like, Georgia's like, oh, I just throw events. And she's like, what, in her 20s? Like, it's just. I don't know, it's like, it's kind of cool seeing, like, people actually trying to make it in Manhattan with different goals. Like Ariana starting a clothing brand. Like, Ava's a very successful model with her, like, super successful producer dad. Like, it's just cute seeing them, like, the different types of lifestyles they lead.

[Danny]

And a lot of people have, like, seen these kids grow up.

[Justin]

And even, like, the way Ava's like, I love talking to my dad because it's just so nice talking to someone who's just so sat and ready to hear everything that I have to say. And it's like, I don't know, it's cute because it's. It's like, you would think some of these people would be really out of touch and they seem, like, very connected with their families. And then you Have Charlie on the complete polar opposite end. And they all kind of come from different places, so.

[Danny]

Well, Mary said that if we didn't mention this, she would be really upset. So I'm gonna mention this. She wanted us to bring up George's take on dating men in finance. Georgia said, I don't think it's ironic that I'm dating someone in finance because he's not in finance, he's in crypto, which I think is actually the antithesis of like financial finance jobs. It's way more anarchist, way more radical.

[Claudia]

Georgia is an interesting one.

[Nick]

That's, that's a take. I mean, you know, it's a different type of finance, but. All right, well, hopefully the Valley gets more positive. I'll have to drag Nally. You know, I, I'm, I'm, I'm not checked out yet. I, I think they're, you know, I think we have, you know, Kristen and Kristen and Luke. I don't know when they're like engagement episode is, but I feel like they, that's going to happen soon because like we do know that they are.

[Danny]

If it's not next episode, that's going to be annoying.

[Nick]

So we'll have to watch that and then, you know, well, let's just give, we'll give next gen some time. But up next we got the stars of McBee Dynasty, Stephen and Kala. Steven Kala. Welcome to the show.

[Natalie]

Thanks for having us. Excited to be on.

[Nick]

Yeah. Excited to be with you guys. As someone who's a big Yellowstone fan, as I'm sure you guys have heard this plenty of times, it's, it's been fun to discover this show. McBe Dynasty. I'm new to the show. You know, I, I just, I've been catching up. I seen the first episode of this season. But what has this experience been like for y' all? And I'm assuming you guys hear the Yellowstone reference a lot.

[Natalie]

We hear it quite a bit and to us it's a compliment. I love Yellowstone. I mean, I think it's one of the, the best series I've seen in recent years. And a lot of what is on that show is very accurate to what takes place on a modern day farm and ranch. Aside from the train station and a few other components that are not accurate.

[Nick]

But other than you guys don't, you guys don't murder a lot of people. Yeah, there's people.

[Natalie]

Yeah, yeah, there's no murder or anything happening behind the scenes. But you know, it's been, it's been an experience. It's been A journey, a roller coaster ride. And I think whenever we first hopped on reality TV for this show specifically, we said we're not going to hide anything. We're going to be raw, authentic. We're going to show all of our flaws and in all of their glory story, I guess.

[Nick]

How about you, Kyla?

[Iris]

It's really not too chaotic. I mean, we did a dating show that was the first show that we did. And then obviously McBee Dynasty season one was completely different than the dating show. But no, I mean, it has its ups and downs, but it's been pretty good overall, for sure.

[Nick]

Stephen, obviously, like, you know, your dad recently kind of made some headlines getting in some legal trouble and it seems like he's taken a step back from the, the show. What is that pressure like for you both? I guess as the kind of the leading man of the show, but also just on a personal level, like, how do you balance both, like, you know, the court of public opinion, being there for your family legally, like, what does that emotional baggage feel like dealing with.

[Natalie]

For the last year, year and a half that this has been ongoing not only with the show, but the, the legal issues as well. It's definitely cranked up the pressure and the stress and pressure that I felt, you know, it's been tremendous. And there's no way I would have gotten through it and gotten to this point thus far if it wasn't for how knit my family is, you know, having Kala as support. It takes an entire team to get through something like this, let alone run all the businesses day to day. And so I'm just very, very thankful that I do have that family support, the support from Kala to really help me keep going through the hard times.

[Nick]

For the audience, the people listening who may not be familiar with what's going on with your dad. I don't know what you're allowed to say, obviously. I'm sure there's some, you know, legal elements at play play, but everyone loves a scandal. What is your family dealing with as it relates to your dad and how optimistic are you that you guys are going to be able to, to work through it?

[Natalie]

Yeah, so there is a, an FBI investigation into my dad and some things that took place in the farming operation. This would have been back in 2018, 2019 is what they're looking at. And we really are kept in the dark. And I'm being 100 honest when I say that as far as what's taking place in the investigation, where we're coming currently at, we're hoping to have everything wrapped up by the end of this year. But we have no idea what the fallout is going to be, what the repercussions are going to be. And so really we're just leaning on one another as a family, coming together as a family and just really being there to support and love and show love to my dad as he goes through this.

[Nick]

Do you know what kind of charges he's facing in terms of like potential years or you know, I don't know. What does that look like?

[Natalie]

It's all up in the air right now. You know, I, I think they're, they're coming around to the final conclusions that they're finding. But as far as specifics go, we don't really know. I mean it is such a wide range of what could happen. And for me specifically, I know if I let myself go down the rabbit hole and spiral to worst case scenario, it's a, it's a pretty dark place.

[Nick]

So yeah, for sure.

[Natalie]

I try not to think about worst case scenario and just focus, you know, on the task at hand. The businesses that we run day to day and, and you know, the positives that we have going on because we do have so many good things going on. And I hate to say that you compartmentalize but you try to do your best to do that.

[Nick]

Yeah. 100. I mean it's, I know you mentioned like, you know, obviously some of the, the train station aside, but you know, back to the Yellowstone comparison, it's. There was a lot of storylines between, you know, just like the federal government and then running the farm and, and just kind of like the difference of opinions of how things should operate. It's kind of fascinating the correlation between your guys show and kind of a fictional scripted show like Yellowstone.

[Natalie]

There's a, there's a quote in Yellowstone and I think it was maybe John Dutton that said it. He said you build something worth having and everyone's going to try and take it from you. And that is so applicable to a real life modern day farm and ranch, especially one of our size. Seems like every single day we wake up to a new fight and new battle coming from somewhere. And you know, like I said, if we didn't have the family support and love, we would never be able to take on what we do day in and day out.

[Nick]

Do you feel like the attention that the show has gotten has in a way like put more of a spotlight on you guys in terms of like what, you know, the FBI and the charges your family's facing?

[Natalie]

Without a doubt, yeah. It's not Even a question. And, you know, we knew that there was some inherent risk in having a platform, and there are so many good things that. That come with having a platform. But obviously you do have some. Some downsides, too, and that for sure is one of them.

[Nick]

So obviously, this is a show that's kind of seems not to be your normal Bravo show. A lot of the Bravo shows are taking places in cities. And why do you feel like this show is something that your average Bravo fan, you know, should start paying attention to?

[Iris]

Because it is so different from the other Bravo shows that are out right now. It just adds that extra like, factor to it, don't you think?

[Natalie]

Yeah, I would say so. And I can't speak for everyone else's shows, you know, as far as the authenticity or how real they are. I can speak for our own and say that there is not one element of this show that was scripted or preconceived. Like, this is our day to day, our everyday lives. What you see on camera is how our lives are off camera. 24 7, 365.

[Iris]

Yes, unfortunately, some of the times, yes.

[Nick]

It's fascinating. I don't think a lot of people realize this, but you guys met on Joe Millionaire.

[Iris]

Yeah.

[Natalie]

Dating show.

[Nick]

Yeah, that's. And, well, how'd you end up on that show, Kala?

[Iris]

So I was reached out to on Instagram. This was. I was right out of a relationship. This was what, three years ago?

[Danny]

Four years.

[Nick]

Yeah.

[Natalie]

It had been first part of 2021.

[Iris]

Yeah. So it was a while ago. But they reached out to me on Instagram and I had like 2000 followers at the time. And I was like, why not? I'm freshly single. And so went on the show, had no, no idea the concept of the show, what it was called, anything like that. But, yeah, that was wild time.

[Natalie]

It was. Yeah, for me, it was the same thing. They reached out on Instagram and where my farm is, where my farmhouse is, I live five miles from my nearest neighbor. So you hop on a dating app and I think the circle that the radius that you can expand is like 100 or 150 miles. And I would expand that thing all the way, and I still couldn't reach, like, a major city. So you're fishing in a very, very, very small pond in a small town. Like that.

[Hannah]

That.

[Natalie]

And I was like, okay, conventional dating styles are not working here. Maybe a dating show will be the way to go.

[Nick]

Yeah, I mean, it must. It must have been wild for you, like, and having all these, I'm assuming, beautiful women show up and Pickens must be slim in a small, small town. Yeah.

[Iris]

He made sure to make out with every single person on that show. He was like, getting his fix.

[Natalie]

I enjoyed the show. It was fun.

[Nick]

What. What set Kala apart from the rest of them?

[Natalie]

I just think that we have a lot of similar values. Family values for sure. And so she born and raised in Dallas, grew up in some suburbs of Chicago, moved back to Dallas. So she's a Midwestern girl at heart. There was. The majority of the women were from west coast, east coast. So there was a lot of things that we, you know, we just struggled to find similarities on me being from the Midwest. And I think Cal and I just hit it off right from the very get go.

[Iris]

Yeah.

[Justin]

We're also.

[Iris]

Also pretty opposite when it comes to a lot of things, but I think that helped our relationship too. We really balanced each other out in.

[Nick]

A lot of ways.

[Paul Scheer]

For sure.

[Nick]

Do you ever. Do you ever take him out back to the city, Kala?

[Iris]

Occasionally. Yeah.

[Natalie]

We've gotten dressed up a few times.

[Claudia]

Yeah, yeah.

[Iris]

He'll pull out a collared shirt every now and then.

[Natalie]

I never lose the boots and.

[Iris]

Yeah, yeah, the boots and the hat stay. But yeah, we've. We've enjoyed ourselves in Dallas.

[Nick]

What can people expect this season on McBee Dynasty? Is it mostly drama? Is it love? Like what. What are we looking at and what people look forward to?

[Natalie]

Oh, it's a mix of it all. I mean, you have the interpersonal relationships. You have my dad and his women, and I say that plural. That he is dating and all of the issues that fall out from that and what us boys have to pick up from all of his dating and issues that he has. You have Kala's and I's relationship, which has its roller coaster ride throughout the season. My brother's getting married. Another one has a baby on the way.

[Nick]

Y.

[Iris]

And don't forget Galina.

[Natalie]

Yeah. Galena. Yeah. Who is our cfo. Slash, my dad's ex girlfriend, who my dad is now dating her best friend. Ex best friend. So that's just messy enough as it is. So you put all these elements together, then you throw an FBI investigation and trying to run a farm and ranch day today, and it's a mess. It's a. It's a train wreck. But it's a fun train wreck.

[Nick]

Yeah. How do you. How do you keep that mental health afloat, Stephen?

[Natalie]

A lot of evening walks on the farm, walking up and down. So my driveway is about a mile long gravel drive, and we'll go walking up and down that about three or four times a day, especially on the. The high anxiety days.

[Nick]

Thank Hala and I. I was watching episode one. I. I believe it was you, but like, you opened up. You know, you've. You've dealt with some tragedy in your family as well.

[Iris]

Yes, my sister, My little sister Mallory, she passed away last year, two months before we started filming.

[Nick]

I'm very sorry to hear that.

[Iris]

Thank you. Yeah, it's been a very difficult year. It still is very difficult for me to think about and talk about, but yeah, you see that unfold. Everything was happening in real time, and just me going through the process of grieving and processing all of those emotions plays out on the show.

[Nick]

Man, that must be tough. So how do you guys come together, the two of you? You know, because, you know, usually when. When relationships deal with some difficult times, it either brings you closer together or breaks you apart. Like, how do you feel? Like it brings you guys closer, closer together.

[Natalie]

I would say hindsight's 2020 and this season two, getting to watch it back is. Is really a good self reflection for how I was or was not there for Kala in the way that she needed us to be there, you know, and I think it's just. It's a good showing for my family and I and just understanding that, hey, you know, some of the ways that we acted, some of the ways that we were there to support or did not support Kala, if I could do it all over again, I would probably have changed the way that I acted, some of the things that I did or said. But you get to watch all of this unfold on season two. For better or worse, highs and lows, we lay it all out there.

[Nick]

All right, well, I appreciate you guys taking the time. McBee dynasty is now on Bravo. Used to be on Peacock. It's the one. One of the few shows that's gone in that direction. It is at 9pm June 30, it comes out, so be sure to check it out. Congratulations to you guys on another season of McBee Dynasty. Wishing you guys the best of luck and I hope everyone tunes in.

[Natalie]

Thank you.

[Iris]

Thank you. Thanks for having us.

[Nick]

I appreciate you guys. Take care. All right, thank you to all of our guests, Paul share, Hannah from Love Island, Steven and Kala from McBee dynasty. We will see you next week where. Which will be a. A shortened week, an adjusted week next week. But coming back on reality recap, we will break down the new released cast of Perfect Perfect Match since this episode's already forever log, but we'll do that so much more talk, Little Love Island. Enjoy your weekend. We'll see you then.

[Paul Scheer]

Bye.

[Nick]

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