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Victor Davis Hanson
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Jack Fowler
The patterns are clear.
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Victor Davis Hanson
Make sure you're on the right side of them.
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Jack Fowler
Hello, ladies. Hello, gentlemen. Welcome to the Victor Davis Hansen Show. Victor is the Martin and Ely Anderson Senior Fellow at the Hoover Institution and the Wayne and Barcia Buskey Distinguished Fellow in History at Hillsdale College. And he's a man with a website. The blade of perseusviktorhanson.com is the address. Go there, check it out. Subscribe. 65 bucks a year, 650amonth. If you want to just stick your toe in the water for a month or two.
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Victor Davis Hanson
And.
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Jack Fowler
And when you go there, you will see that Victor writes twice a week an exclusive article articles plural for the Blade of Perseus. And he also does an exclusive video. Plus, there's tons of Other free stuff there. So check it out. The Blade of Perseus. We are recording on Sunday, September 21st. Victor, through these blinds, if I could open them up behind me, behind me, you'd see Steamboat Springs, Colorado, where I happen to be. And glad we have some good WI Fi here. You are in the People's Republic of California.
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Victor Davis Hanson
I am, yeah. You'll be leaving. It's a wonderful place, Jack. No ice agents are allowed now to wear masks. And we import all of our. Almost all of our oil now, except for a little bit in Bakersfield and offshore. And we have the highest prices of gas in the country, highest electricity, highest taxes, highest poverty rate, most homeless, most people on public assistance. And Gavin did all of that. That's hard to do. He was speaking the other day. He did this thing, you know. Yeah, he does that all the time. As if he's, I don't know, has a hula hoop on or something.
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Jack Fowler
He's a performance artist, as is practically everyone else in the Democrat Party. Well, Victor, this show is going to go up on Tuesday the 23rd. And let's. And that's, I think, un Week. I'm here out in Colorado, but I'm pretty sure un Week is happening in New York City. Always a treacherous time. I worked in New York City all my life, and when all the goofballs were in town, it was chaos. But there are some important international stories to get your perspective on Hamas. Put out something today. I think it was today or yesterday, saying essentially say goodbye to the remaining hostages. And then we have uk, Canada, Canada and Australia, along with France, plotting, planning to recognize Palestine as a nation, as a state. And we'll get your thoughts on those issues, Victor. Also, some Disney Matters poll on leftist violence. Donald Trump's got some shocking new poll. Impressive. We'll get to all that when we come back from these important messages.
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Victor Davis Hanson
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Jack Fowler
We are back with the Victor Davis Hansen Show. So Victor, let's maybe let's start off with the recognition and I want to read a poll after you finish your comments. Starmer of the UK along with Canada, along with Australia have stated today that they are going to recognize these countries are going to recognize Palestine as a state. Part of the news angle with Starmer seeing to get out in front of Macron of France who stated last week that France was going to recognize. So you have four not unimportant countries going to recognize this hellhole as a nation. Your thoughts, Victor?
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Victor Davis Hanson
I think there's at least two things going on behind those stories. One, obviously they all have left wing governments, all of them. So I'm not sure that we should fault the Australian. Half the country of Australia or Canada or the UK and the other is immigration. They've let in so many people, Australia, not quite as much as Canada, but the UK and they are captives to the Muslim voters. So that's another thing. But just think about it is Hamas is now, you know, they publish these pictures that, and they're just saying to everybody, on October 7th, we broke into a country and we slaughtered 1200 people at a time of, of peace. And many of us were working with Israel, 20,000 of us were treated very well. We crossed the border and were working and we just slaughtered them. And then we took 240something prisoners and we've been doling them out for political purposes. And you're not going to get, because we're thugs and terrorists, you're not going to get the other 45. And then I would ask the governments of these three English speaking countries, how many countries do you recognize where the government takes hostages? Terrorists, which, how many do you do that? Because that's what they're doing. And when they want a separate state, they want this terrorist state because that's what's going to happen if you allow a separate state in Gaza. So, you know, if somebody did that to the UK or Canada, came into their country, murdered 1200 people and then stuck their tongue out and wagged their finger at them and said, we've got hostages, what are you going to do about it? I think they'd be very upset and it's really weird. We're going to talk about Trump's solid polls, but one of the reasons that they're solid is for all of the anger at him from the left. He has a moral compass and on these main issues, you don't take hostages. There is a difference between a constitutional democracy in Israel and a bunch of thugs in Hamas. And he makes that clear. And Europe is not doing itself any good, no matter how in extremist they are by buying oil from Russia. And we can't really help you hurt Russia if you continue to buy oil and then lecture everybody about how well you're doing in Ukraine. So he brings these things up and that's why his polls are increasing. And that's not even the domestic issues, you know, about crime and energy and the border.
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Jack Fowler
Well, our own history, Victor. Jimmy Carter and hostages. Imagine if Jimmy Carter had done the right thing or the strong thing, the dynamics of America today would be radically different.
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Victor Davis Hanson
Yeah, all he had to. Yeah, but he was captive of, you know, all sorts of people. Even Zaczynski was. All of the people around him were infatuated with this Michel Foucault kind of narrative that Khomeini was a revolutionary that was reaching out to the west and he could be a very valuable person in Iran. And the Shah was not really a good person. He was killing thousands of people with Sabek, which wasn't true. He was brutal dictator, but he was not a killer as Khomeini was. So that's what they fell for and they were all deluded. And then we had those two way that diaspora of mostly Jewish Iranians or conservative Iranians that got smart and fled when they saw that Shah was not going to make it. And those are the people you bump into in their 70s and 80s and they own businesses, they're professionals. And then you get the other wave of Iranian diaspora and these are the people who said all, well, we don't like Khomeini, but he was a useful theocrat for our socialist utopia. That's going to follow Mossadegh, Mossadegh, Mossadegh. I keep talking about that. So then they stayed and they thought that they were outsmart. You know, there was Bonnie Sauter and maybe Goatsbody and well, they got knocked, they killed goats body, they almost killed Bonnie Sauter and then that failed and they found out, oh my God, Khomeini. And these guys are really medieval theocrats and they don't like socialism but we hate America more than they do and they're still going to kill us. So then they fled to where? Of course they fled to America, some to Europe. And they are mostly in journalism and academia and they're younger and they're in their 50s and 60s. So there's two diasporas that I've encountered and one is very, very pro American and very, very anti Khomeini and the other is ambiguous and blames the United States for everything in Iran.
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Jack Fowler
I'm having trouble here, Victor, with my managing things. I'm not in my home office, so I apologize. I want to read a poll, if you don't mind, since I can't print anything out either. This is the unpopularity of this action of recognizing Palestine in France and in England. So this is an article that came out this morning, yesterday, excuse me, late yesterday. Here's what it says. Fresh surveys in Britain and France reveal Brazil broad resistance to immediate unconditional recognition of a Palestinian state, a stance now being advanced by leaders in both countries. And the UK poll published by the Telegraph found that only 13% of Britain's backed Prime Minister Keir Starmer's plan to recognize a Palestinian state without preconditions. Support was even lower among labor voters at just 11%, and dropped to 8% among voters who may have moved or may move from labor to reform. Nearly nine in 10 respondents opposed Starmer's expected announcement. A slim majority, 51%, said Britain should not grant recognition while Hamas controls Gaza and holds Israel hostage. And then, separately in France, separate poll commissioned by the country's main Jewish umbrella group, I'm sorry, I don't have the name here. Showed that 71% of French citizens reject recogn a Palestinian state before Hamas surrenders and hostages are released. Only 29% support immediate recognition, despite Macron's pledge to make a formal announcement at the UN General Assembly. Both Macron and Starmer are leaders of country with horrific public support, and they seem to be doubling down on that.
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Victor Davis Hanson
Yeah, they're afraid of the, as I said, the Muslim population that they let in, and mostly from the Middle East. Remember Angela Merkel? Yes, we can do this. We can do this. No, you can't. You ruin your country doing it. But I think it's part of a larger wave. You see Geert Wilders in the Netherlands, you see Neil Farage, Maloney, Viktor Orban, and then the efforts to squash it. But it's a holistic movement in Europe and the United States, and we are sick of all this. We have nothing to apologize for. We're not settler colonialists. Go look at what the Ottomans did when they were. You people never mention the Ottomans. You never mention the Caliphate. All you do is Europe, Europe, Europe, west, west, west, West. And yet you want to come here. All you do is trash our country, our civilization, and then you beg to come here. We have the same problem. I mean, the mayor of Dearborn in that infamous city council meeting where the mayor just told that one guy who was objecting to honoring somebody who had been affiliated with Hamas, he said, you don't belong here in the United states to a U.S. citizen because there's a majority Muslim population in Dearborn, I would like to remind him there is not a majority population of Muslims in the United States. So Dearborn is not the United States in terms of demography. And then we had Ilyan Omar basically say, and I predicted this. I went through with Sammy, seven different narratives about Charlie Kirk killing, you know, first they were going, I did it on X. You know, first nobody was at fault. That didn't work. And then the MAGA was at fault. That didn't work. And then the gun did it. Bolt action hunting rifle, responsible for about 1% of all murders in the United States. That didn't do it. Then Trump himself did it. That didn't do it. Then it was the gay love story, Ally McGraw, Ryan O', Neil, kind of that they were in love when they were. That didn't do it. And then finally they got to where they really wanted to be and that was you. I don't like Charlie Kirk. He is a fascist. I'm not going to quote what he said or anything. I'm just going to hate him and I'm not going to participate in this fraud. And that was what Ilhan Omar boy blasted out in Congress. Said that basically he was a Frankenstein monster, Dr. Frankenstein whose monster blew his neck apart. Gross and vile. And then we had Rashid Tlaib, who goes on her rants, and then aoc. And I think people are just getting tired of all that. You know, they don't like the idea that people flock to Europe and then they act in a particular way against its traditions and history and values and protocols, which if they were to get their way, would destroy the reason why they came there. The same thing was true of us. And, you know, why do these people come from the Middle East? And then they get here, and I'm not talking about citizens alone, but they're on visas or green cards, and then they start demonstrating for this terrorist organization and they start attacking this country. And then when you politely in the State Department say, would you. You're on a green card, you're on a visa. Would you, Mr. Mohammed Khalid, would you please go back home? Because you obviously don't like the system here because you came over to get an education and all you do is attack the United States foreign policy and blast its allies and praise a terrorist organization. No, you can't do that to me. You can't do that to me. I want to come here and attack your country. It's like inviting somebody in. He said, I hate your table, I hate your food, I hate you, but you can't kick me out. And the same thing with Ilhan Omar. I'm just going around. But you think of all the things that DEI does. I don't think we've really appreciated the toxicity of that ideology. It basically says, says we are not going to enforce norms, customs, laws to a particular group of people. Who are self declared historical victims by the basis of their historical oppression but more importantly their superficial appearance in the here and now. So if you are a non white person, you are going to get an exemption. That means you can be the mayor of LA and you can be in Ghana and no one's to going going to criticize you. You can be Teresa Stokes, the magistrate that let out decarlos Brown to kill Irenia Zarutska and you don't even have to pass the bar to be a judge. You can be the head of LA Water and Power and have a dry reservoir, no problem. You can be the deputy mayor of Los Angeles and be under house arrest when the fire hits because you phoned in a bomb threat. You can beat a Carlos Brown and let out 14 times and prey on people and no one's going to say a word. And I think people are sick of it. Yillen Omar there's an argument to be made, Scott Johnson has done it and others that she manipulated immigration law to get here by de facto marrying her brother to get a visa to come here. And that was exempt because who she was. The same thing about the Somali $2 billion food fraud in Minnesota. If that had been some white Appalachians that were running that, they'd all be in prison. So there's an exemption. Ideological, racial, gender, etc. And when you see the number of people since the trans craze started, I don't mean that they're crazy. I mean this popularity of it in the last 10 years and you look at shootings, you have five or six of them. And as you pointed out to me, Jack, we now know that the assassin who was going to kill Brett Kavanaugh has now transitioned. And we know that Tyler Robinson was in a relationship with transgender and had such messaging on his casing. And yet no one can talk about this. You cannot talk about it. They are, in the last five or six years of violent shooting, they are overrepresented, at least on their percentages of gender dysphorics in the population. It's like I don't know, 1 in 100,000 if that. Prior to this redefinition of it. I think what I'm trying to get at, Jack, in Europe and the United States, people said I had enough. We are a force for good. You look at the world outside of the west, it's a mess. Everybody wants to come to the West. They're not flocking to go to China, they're not trying to get into Russia, they're not trying to get into Angola. They're not trying to get into Venezuela. They're not begging to get into Mexico. They want to come here. And there's a reason for that. But you don't ever tell us what the reason is. You only talk about the bad stuff because you want stuff from us, and then we're supposed to feel really terrible and guilty. Okay, we'll give you special admissions. Okay, we'll give you a visa. Okay, we'll give you a fellowship. And you know, it's a very dangerous ideology because it cost a young Ukrainian woman her life. Because that guy should have never been out. And that woman who let him out, Teresa Stokes, should have never been a judge. And that mayor should never have been a mayor. I mean, she was elected. So be it. But when she said, you can't arrest your way out, we don't want to show the video. Let's not blame anybody. It's that ideology that causes this stuff.
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Jack Fowler
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Victor Davis Hanson
It is. It's going to get worse, Jack, because it also reflects the political impotence of the left and the frustration. They have a message now that nobody wants to and they know that. So they feel that they can cause so much chaos, they can attack ICE and cause so much disruption that people say, just make it go away, please. That's their whole strategy. But nobody wants what they have on the border, on energy, on foreign policy, on the economy, nothing. And they know that. That's why they don't have the Congress and they don't have the White House and they think they can cause enough mayhem and chaos to get into the, the House and Senate in the midterms. I don't think they can. And so that frustration says, well then if we don't have power and people don't like our message, then we should use violence. And that's why we canonize Luigi Mangione. And that's why Mr. Robinson is not really condemned, as he should be, as an utter vile murderer. And that's who they are. That's why Sarnoff was on the COVID of Rolling Stone. That's why they put Hitler, Trump on the head of the New Republic. It's any means necessary to get this political agenda that otherwise will not be approved by most of the people. If you look at the Biden administration, that was a heaven sent gift to the left. That was their most. Never in their wildest dream did they think that they could actually stage a near coup and put this waxen effigy up, stick him in the basement, say it was Covid, outspend Trump 3 billion to a billion and a half, get him elected, use him as a stiff, sort of that Star Trek character, and then take this hard left agenda and just push it down the American people's nose, get Majorcas to destroy the border, get the green people to destroy fossil fuels if they could get out of Afghanistan in humiliation, tilt toward the radical Palestinians, empower Iran, all of that. They got through. And then they unleashed him. Every once in a while they said, he's not senile, he's not, look at this. We're going to have him do a Phantom of the Opera. So he would rest and then he would go up semi badges and garbage. And they loved that. And then they would put him back. And so they only brought him out and moments of clarity to express invective and hatred. Everybody's mad. You know, Trump should really call for calm. Joe Biden said, let's put a bullseye on Trump's back. Joe Biden said twice, I'd like to take him out and beat him up behind the high school gym. He was the one, remember that, called half the country garbage. So that's what they wanted and they got that agenda and now they don't have him anymore and they lost the election and it only worked for four years and now it's very unpopular and I think people are sick of it all. And Trump, what they really don't like about Trump is I think one of the weirdest things. They think he's going to be this right wing fascist and then he's the only major political figure who expressed humanitarian concern about the dead in Ukraine. For the left, it was always Ukraine was something weird tied into Russian collusion. Well, we're going to support Ukraine because we hate Putin because Putin colluded with Trump and that'll make Trump look bad as Putin's puppet. But they didn't care about the million and a half people dead or wounded or the destruction that was caused. He did. Trump did. And so if he had been, you know, Obama or John Kerry or somebody, they would have given him a Nobel Prize for that alone. Yeah.
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Jack Fowler
Well, Victor, we're going to talk a little more about Trump, something you mentioned before, some new poll, then also Trump and Pam Bondi. Not unimportant, big story. I also want to bring up England again, but we'll do all that and more when we come back. From these important messages.
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Jack Fowler
We are back with the Victor Davis Hanson Show. We're recording on Sunday. The 21st of this particular episode will be up On Tuesday the 23rd. I'm Jack Fowler. I have a newsletter and it's called Civil Thoughts. You'll find it@civilthoughts.com that's where you can sign up for it comes out every Friday in your mailbox. Email box inbox. You get 14 recommended readings. I know you're going to like it. Totally free.
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Victor Davis Hanson
Totally free.
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Jack Fowler
Not selling your name. Civil Thoughts. Check it out. Victor before we get on to Trump and I didn't apprise you, I want to raise this before the show. But back on Starmer and back, I think on the, you know, the left fields for the people, whether they're people in England or America. He had an ambassador to the United States, this guy Mandelson, who was known to be a creep and part of that whole Epstein cabal. And this, the insularness of the elite. I think maybe even, even there, it may be worse in England than here. And this all came out and he, he's back. He's not the ambassador any longer, but it's.
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Victor Davis Hanson
It just shows.
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Jack Fowler
I don't know, it's a creepiness with the, with the leftist leadership in Europe.
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Victor Davis Hanson
You ever watch these English crime shows?
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Jack Fowler
Yeah, Foley's War.
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Victor Davis Hanson
Yeah, that was a great show. Midsummer, Midsummer Murders Endeavor. And they always have these. There's always a sick scene like you're speaking about, about aristocratic. You know, they're running in the forest naked or they're doing some weird thing.
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Jack Fowler
Dressed in women's panties or whatever.
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Victor Davis Hanson
Yeah, it's a commentary on them and it's self critical and I don't know whether the incidence is any higher there, but I think people notice it because we always associate the British accent, the British decorum with good manners and sobriety and then repress as if Victorian repressive people in their secret lives are kind of nutty, like Prince Andrew or something. Yeah, I've noticed that a great deal. But it was to say something, I felt bad for Sturmer because here Trump came over and they put out the biggest show they've ever done in 50 years to impress him. Basically the message was give us a break on the tariffs. We're English speaking brothers of yours. Make sure you send Europe a bunch of natural gas. Make sure you keep Putin away. We're not really going to make, we don't have the money to spend 5% on NATO. We're not going to do that, you know, that we can't really patrol our borders. Just kind of help us out. And so Trump knew that. So he just fixated on the royal family and the gold and everywhere in the room and how nice it was. And then Strummer was just like an orphan, you know, and he told the Muslim mayor of London to keep out. He didn't want him there. And he was like the, or he was like the maestro orchestrating this dinner for himself. And you know, it's the same thing as before he even took office when he was at the Notre Dame Cathedral when everybody was rushing him or even when they were trying to trash him at the funeral for the Pope because he wore a blue suit. And then you looked around, there was like 10 people who emulated him with blue suits. And so he was, as I said earlier, he's right out of Shakespeare's outline about Julius Caesar. He does strode like colossus above us.
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Jack Fowler
He's a colossus.
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Victor Davis Hanson
Yeah, yeah.
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Jack Fowler
Like him or not, he's a colossus.
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Victor Davis Hanson
They made him a colossus.
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Jack Fowler
Well, let's get to the Trump poll. Okay, this is. It came out today. I saw it today. Maybe it came out late yesterday. Anyway, it's a Rasmussen presidential tracking poll and in a four day period, Donald Trump was 48 in favor, 51 against. Then within four days, 53 in favor, 46. That's a minus three to a plus seven. That's a 10 point flop switch in 10 days. That's pretty remarkable. What do you think is behind that, Victor?
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Victor Davis Hanson
Well, part of it was his, as I just said, his larger than life figure on the world stage that helped a lot. And then Charlie Kirk that brought out, I was on UU show, whom I highly respect. I've known him for 20 years. I really like him, he's a really good guy. And he, he asked me what I thought and I said, that was the day that Charlie was killed. I said, mark my words, you're going to see a really ugly side of the left because they're going to rejoice. Maybe not right away, but once they get emboldened and they calibrate how much this meant to people, they're going to get really angry and start to show the real colors. And they have. So these people, it's like every high school here at Florida Cal State, Fresno or local high school, there's some guy that goes on social media and brags, they're in the military, they're in the media, they're everywhere. And that inundates the media finally. And people just say, what happened to these people? And then they what's the alternative to them? It's not that they're necessarily pro Trump, but they see him as a voice of sanity in a wilderness of insanity. And so that's helped him this week. I always go back to this with the polls because I remember the night before the NPR poll, the night of the election, I looked at it, I said, oh my gosh, it's beyond the margin of error. It has Kamala Harris winning by four points. Remember that? The night before? And she lost by a point, 1.5. It was five and a half points points off in the Des Moines Register, the gold standard for Indiana, they were off by 12 points, I think. So the only three that I went back and looked at that you can trust were insider Advantage, Trafalgar and Rasmussen. That was it. Maybe there was one other one from Latin America, it was pretty good. But other than that, you can't trust any of them. So I do trust Rasmussen. I think it's accurate. And the problem with the Real Clear poll average is they're very fair and they try not to be partisan. So they list all of those polls, 10 or 12. And you know that a lot of those left wing polls exist for one reason, to get some outrageous outline, 10 point hatred of Trump so that when anybody aggregates them, it brings it down. That's their whole purpose. But he's, he's, the thing about Trump is he has an animal cunning and he caught on to Powell real quickly, the Fed thing. And he knew that during the election, right in September, he lowered the interest rate. He knew that when that interest rate went up. I mean, the inflation rate went up to 9% in 2022. Powell did not raise interest rates right away. And so he knew that he was a political animal and he just kept, you know, haranguing that. And everybody said, oh, the independence of the Fed, the independent, the event that he's never been independent. He was a creature of the left. That's what his purpose was. And that's why he would. He has kept his latest forecast. We're only going to get 1.5 or 1.7 or something like that GDP when we're. I think this last quarter we had almost 3%. So Trump knows. He just fixates on things and he knows where the people are on all these things. And.
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Jack Fowler
You know, we eventually find out that the numbers people in power use are like Powell or like the National Labor Statistics. How. I don't think we ever spoke about this, Victor.
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Victor Davis Hanson
You may have done it with a million jobs off. It's crazy. Yeah.
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Jack Fowler
Why would we believe anything they.
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Victor Davis Hanson
Well, it was very clear what they were doing. They were completely creating jobs so that Biden, Dash Harris, and then Harris would be reelected as a booming economy. And then when that didn't work, they were going to say to everybody that Trump inherited a booming economy. And look, now in unemployment, there's all. All these jobs that were lost and they were never there in the first place. And he knew that. The other ability of Trump is he makes them, because of their irrational hate, defend the indefensible. They defend people who cannot be defended. And so whether it's making them defend Mohammed Khalil or Abrego Garcia or Luigi Mangione or Lisa Cook on the Fed or Lakita James, they will defend these people or Fanny Willis, but they're losing causes, all of them. But he makes them do that because in their mind, I hate Trump so much that I will be against anything that he is for. And when you have that predetermined deductive attitude and he's forced where 70% of the popularity on most of the issues is, then what you're basically doing is in robotic style. I'm always going to be on the wrong side of the issues because I hate Trump. And that's what's happened to them all this doesn't mean everybody that Trump is the Republicans are going to win the midterms. It's very hard historically to keep a majority, a close majority, the end party during the midterm. But it does mean that he has a good shot at it. And I think he can pull it off. I really do.
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Jack Fowler
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Victor Davis Hanson
Prince Charles, I mean, everything that Prince Charles has said from, you know, the Middle east to global warming is anti Trump. But he's very astute, like his mom. And I didn't think that he had. He understands that it's in his interest to support court and win over people that he may not like and he does not like their politics. But on one critical issue, standing tall for England and supporting Great Britain through thick and thin, he would prefer Trump to Biden or Obama. And he knows that. And that's hard for a person to know that say, oh, I love Obama. I love what the Biden left. I'm there and they're climate changers like me and everything, but if we were ever in trouble, they wouldn't lift their finger. But this guy would.
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Jack Fowler
Yeah, in the foxhole, we know who would do, who would be there with them. So here's the headline again from the Daily Mail. Trump savages Pam Bondi as he leaks brutal text message listing her failings. First few paragraphs of this story. President Donald Trump has launched an extraordinary attack on Attorney General Pam Bondi over her failure to take deep State scalps. The president appeared to leak on Truth Social a private message he had seen sent to Bondi, accusing her of all talk, no action, and demanding increased efforts to prosecute his political enemies. Trump listed off FBI Director James Comey, Senator Adam Schiff of California, New York Attorney General Letitia James, claiming they they're all guilty as hell. Much of his fury was directed at the outgoing U.S. attorney for the Eastern District of Virginia, Eric Siebert, or Sibert, who declined to prosecute James for mortgage fraud over what he said was a lack of evidence.
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Victor Davis Hanson
I don't understand. I never understood that lack of evidence. It's just an affidavit. Letitia James is the Attorney General of New York, and if she signed anything that said that her principal residence wasn't in New York, that's disqualifying. If she did it twice with two. So it would seem like from news reports she had done that. We know Adam Schiff did that. He declared two principal residences for tax breaks or at least one that he didn't live in as his major residence. And so it actually works out in a weird way, good for Trump, because it shows you that he's not controlling the doj. It's not like Eric Holder saying, I'm Obama's wingman. And it's not like Nathan Wade meeting with the White House counsel, the Fanny Willis prosecutor, the same day that Michael Colangelo, third guy in the doj, who had come in from Letita James, goes out to work with Alvin Bragg. And the very same day they appoint Jack Smith the special prosecutor. That was a trifecta in one day. And that showed you that the DOJ was not independent, it was an extension of the Biden White House. But apparently Pam Bondi and Trump are at odds. And I think that actually he may not appreciate that, but it works to his advantage. Well, okay, in a weird way. But just because a subordinate in Virginia has chosen, not at this particular moment, to prosecute Letita James doesn't mean that the DOJ's upper echelon won't do it. They can do it. They can appoint people to do it. The problem is, when they came in, almost all of the attorneys were all left wing. They're left wing in general. And then under Biden, they became more left wing. And so he's got to cut her some slack. It's very hard to. I mean, she's sitting on a volcano of left wing and she doesn't have a lot of personnel yet. I mean, there's not a lot of judge Jean Bishop, you know.
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Jack Fowler
Well, actually along those lines I have two things Victor. One was Harmee Dhillon. I saw her speak two or three weeks ago. She was at natcon. She was terrific.
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Victor Davis Hanson
She was talking about Wonderful.
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Jack Fowler
Yeah. So the actual personnel is still an issue.
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Victor Davis Hanson
There are enough of Harmet.
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Jack Fowler
So yeah, they just, somebody quit, somebody got canned and probably two thirds of, of the amount of staffing what it has to be and it has to be staffing of people who want to fulfill the mission of this administration, not some the left wing agenda that is infused that place. So yeah, having the manpower, the woman power to fight these fights is an issue. The other thing though is I noticed on X a number of increased chatter of. You'll see a meme with the bot, you know, Adam Schiff, like some of these names just mentioned and none of them no prosecution, no anything. And you probably have like 10 names. So there's a growing frustration out there amongst certain.
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Victor Davis Hanson
It's very hard to do though because it was so rampant. So what if there was going to be justice and it wasn't just, just think away the statute of limitations and you were going to enforce the law. Then you would have to go after John Brennan for lying under oath twice to Congress about spying on Senate computers. And then you would have to go after Clapper for lying, bald faced lie and said that the NSA did not spy on people. He admitted that. Then you would have to go after Andrew McCabe. Four occasions he lied. I think three or two or three of them were under oath about leaking. Then you would have to go after James Comey. He lied bald faced to the President, said you're not under an investigation. Went out, recorded that private conversation with Trump and leaked it through a third party to the New York Times. And he went to the House oversight committee on 245 occasions, said he couldn't remember the head of the FBI. Then you would have to go after Letitia James for mortgage and interest fraud. Same with mortgage fraud with Adam Schiff. Then you would have to go after Fanny Willis probably for what she did. And they already have, so she's already been cited. And how would you, I mean how would that all be digested? Because and then to be fair, you would have to say that all the Biden family, you would have to bring them all in and then you would put them under oath, the brother, the sister, the niece, hunter. And then you would make them in long testimonies, testify to something that they had said that would be incriminating if they were to tell the truth and then have them in a lie. And that would not be hard to do. And then that would be a new perjury that was not covered by the exemptions. But that's a full time job given the level of corruption that we saw. So I don't have an answer to that.
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Jack Fowler
You also probably have to prosecute them in Arkansas or Alabama. I don't know how you get the venue.
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Victor Davis Hanson
You have to, because you know what would happen if you go into a New York courtroom or a Washington D.C. courtroom, it's going to be jury nullification. They're just going to nullify all the evidence and you're not going to get anywhere. So yeah, you would have to take them in to Utah, Wyoming, Mississippi, something like that. And that's a Herculean task to do that. So you can't just get instant judgment like that. And then these people are all creatures of the media. So then you've got all of the echo chamber, npr, abc, cbs, NBC, Washington Post, New York Times, all of them saying that this is fascism and, and this is why you're trying to govern and do all these other things. So I'd like to cut her some slack a little bit because it's really hard given the level of corruption and the need to deal with would take years to undo what they did. And so I want them to do that according to the law, whatever is possible. But I mean, you had the government of the United States working with a prosecutor in Georgia and being briefed on how to make up a crazy RICO statute about calling in and asking if there were missing votes into a felony. And he was in the White House talking to the White House counsel. And then you had this co Angelo guy who was working for Letita James and suddenly they make him the third person in the doj. And then as soon as they do that, pretty soon he goes back to work with Alvin Bragg to use that knowledge. And then they have two prosecutors working, one to say that Joe Biden did just what Donald Trump did, but he's senile and a senile person cannot be prosecuted, but he can be President of the United States. And then you had, you know, Jack Smith going after Trump and it was all coordinated. So that's it. I don't know. I mean, I think it was just overwhelming for the American people.
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Jack Fowler
Well, we'll take the fallback position of success being the best revenge.
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Victor Davis Hanson
Yes, that's what Trump said and he's doing that. He really is.
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Jack Fowler
Well, Victor, we're going to talk a little about Disney as We wrap up the show today and we'll get to that right after we come back from these final important messages.
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Jack Fowler
We are back with the Victor Davis Hansen show to pick up on two things mentioned already. Victor said he wrote something and discuss it with the great Sammy Wink on X. And if you're on X, follow Victor. His handle is Dhanson. And if you're on Facebook, VDH's Morning Cup. Check that out. And then there's a Victor Davis Hansen fan club, not officially related here, but great people. And if you're a fan of Victor and you're on Facebook, you know, join it. By the way, you mentioned Wyoming, Victor. And the reason I'm in Colorado Springs is I was in Wyoming. I called you the other week. I would visited Wyoming Catholic College. Very small, very traditional, conservative, super place. I went there. I'm going to write an article.
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Victor Davis Hanson
Was that where Kevin Roberts was?
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Jack Fowler
He had been. Yes, Kevin had been.
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Victor Davis Hanson
He was, he was president. Wow.
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Jack Fowler
Yeah, he was. Yeah. But it's so interesting in that I'm looking at my cell phone. You have your cell phone? We're on. We live by this. If you're a student there, you cannot have access to social media. And it's really radically different detoxification in a way and it allows the students to truly learn and engage.
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Victor Davis Hanson
It's a different.
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Jack Fowler
It's also they structure their education way a little different. But that's really remarkable a school where you are cut off from Instagram, Facebook, X, et cetera.
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Victor Davis Hanson
I used to speak at Jackson Hole. Maybe I've done it eight or nine times and maybe four or five. I've driven from California and there's something about going through Utah and then up to Idaho and then over to. I just, I felt at ease. No, it wasn't because it's so called white people. It was just, you got the impression that there was just a live and let live attitude by everybody. And everybody's attitude was go do your own thing. As long as you don't break any laws and bother me, then you'll be in big trouble. But after being in California, it was just something different.
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Jack Fowler
I have to believe that the landscape and the land, it has something to.
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Victor Davis Hanson
Do with the big sky. It really does. And I was just as, I, I.
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Jack Fowler
Was thinking of Shane as we Were driving through the Grand Teton.
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Victor Davis Hanson
Yeah, yeah. Shane come back when he met him, I was watching that not too long ago to make sure I could adjudicate the degree of his shoulder wound. You know, when he's riding, he's kind of going like this. So you. It leaves a mystery whether he's going to go up in the mountain and die or he's going to come back.
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Jack Fowler
Well, we'll never know. Well, here's something interesting, Victor, that Peachy Keenan, who writes for the American Mind, put up on X. If I just read this quickly and it's about the whole Jimmy Kimmel ABC situation and this was from Friday, September 19th. And Peachy writes, as someone who worked for Disney Corp. For six years, I can confirm that everyone there hates you as much as they hate Charlie Kirk. When they bring Kimmel back, and they will, because they all love him and hate you, you are going to have to completely cut this company out of your life. Finally, the parks, the movies, Marvel, espn, Hulu, just thank it for all the years of joy, then say goodbye to it forever. Otherwise you are just paying Kimmel's salary yourself. Victor, you're thoughts on that?
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Victor Davis Hanson
That's very sad, but it's true. When you think of the career of Walt Disney and what he built and what his idea was. When I was growing up, the vocal left was much smaller, of course, but they were always attacking Disney. You know, he's a right winger, he's. He was Goldwater guy. And to see that whole company taken over. It's true that the radical left has this reverse Midas touch. Everything they touch turns to dregs. They destroy it. And I think that's, you know, they had the trans thing at Disney destroyed. Budweiser, Budweiser, Target. I can remember as a little boy, my mom was a Stanford alumni. We had no money. We had this little house. We all had a big occasion and she said, we're going to the Stanford alumni reunion and then we'll go up to a Giants game. So we have these little clip on ties and we all went up in this old 56, 53, 56, I guess Dodge station wagon. We went up there and Stanford was all, you know what I mean? It was all these people with ties and alumni and faculty. And I think there was still some faculty members that my mom remembered at the law school. But they were, they looked like something out of Paper Chase, you know what I mean? Very dignified. And they ruined it. They just took it over and it's an insane asylum, as most of These places are. And they did that with Hollywood, they did it with Disney. And it's really sad that. And it's a small minority of the population. The only thing that's very strange is there's one institution that's really pushing back and that's Silicon Valley. Because when you look at David Sachs or Andreessen or Elon Musk or Peter Till, even to a lesser degree, Jeff Bezos or Mark Zuckerberg, I think they all got in a room. I'm just creating a scenario. And they said, these people hate us and they are communist socialists and they're not very good. They come out of these universities and we keep thinking we're hiring Harvard, Yale, Princeton. But they don't know how to speak, they don't know how to write. They're all products of an inflated, overrated educational system. And they're all ideological driven and they camp out with a tent in our HR department and complain and they get on social media and trash our brand. And then we meet with their representatives and their socialists and they say, you are going to do this and you are going to do that and you're going to hire us when we retire and you're going to do AI the way. And this madman Trump comes along and says, whatever you want to do, as long as you bring jobs back here and you don't outsource an offshore and you are USA all the way and I'll protect you overseas. And they said, okay, so that's a little. And I know people are going to get angry and say, well, Victor, don't believe those guys. They're Silicon Valley. They've done a lot of. I know that. But it's one thing that Lisa is becoming introspective by needs. And these other institutions, they've just growing.
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Jack Fowler
They realize they're as Elon Musk showed with X. Didn't he get rid of 90% of the staff? So these places are kind of welfare reservations for MBA geeks who highly paid and maybe they're business when they realize that's not needed anymore.
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Victor Davis Hanson
Isn't it weird about the left? I mean, here he was an icon for giving them the best electric vehicle in the world. And then they started trashing his dealer and now they don't because he just, I guess, disappeared from the White House. So now they sent out from party command headquarters their bunker somewhere and said, stop trashing Elon. It's bad publicity. It's still a car that's better than gas. You're now permitted to buy it. You don't have to key it. You don't have to run people off the road, you don't have to firebomb dealers. It's okay. And it's just amazing. Almost every day just let off a rocket and there, I don't know how many new satellites went up. And as I said, I'm working, speaking to you on Starlink from out in the country. And he saved NASA. We now have a space program because of him. We now have Internet because of him. We now have an alternative. If you think that's wise, go ahead to a gas engine car that actually runs and it can go 300 miles and it's a wonderful car, very reliable. He did all of that. Now you have X and you can post on there and you can see the alternative. Blue sky turned into what they said X was going to turn into, but it didn't. It's a complete cesspool of hatred. And so Blue sky or whatever it is. So it's amazing. He did all of these things. And I know that he had a falling out with Trump, but I still really admire him. I know he's quirky and everything, but he did. When you look at people of the 21st century, that did a lot for the United States, he's up there. He really is.
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Jack Fowler
One last thing, if I may, back on the Peachy Keenan and Disney thing. Victor is. I've never felt conservatives were protesting people maybe protesting at the voting booth, but the Budweiser thing with Dylan Mulvaney shows I think it broke a dam like you people hate us.
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Victor Davis Hanson
They do. And read my email.
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Jack Fowler
Yeah, well, this is back on. Like with Disney. Like, gosh, it's become clear. They, they hate who we are, they hate what we believe in.
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Victor Davis Hanson
I think I would be happy if they hate. I think they're. They want to take it to the next level. And by that I mean they want to dox you, they want to hack you, they want to swat you, they want to do a lot of things to you. And they're very dangerous people. The other thing about them is the people. I don't want to mention names. I was just thinking the other day, I walk, I'm trying to get back in shape and I walk early in the morning, late at night, and I just think about all the close friends I had, wonderful people I went to undergraduate, graduate school with. They visited here, I visited them. And they, I guess you would say, hate my guts now. They don't talk to me. If I call them and leave them out, they will not talk to Me. And that was because in 2016, 17, I said that Trump was not only going, I preferred him to Hillary, but he was going to win. And then I supported him. And that applies to, say, 90% of my family, too. And so you're walking alone out there and you're thinking, wow, I remember this person came and visited me. We used to walk with his wife and him. Wow. I remember this guy came and he used to stay overnight. He was a wonderful guy. Wow. I remember when I was eight years old, these were my three, two siblings, my cousin. What a wonder. And it's all gone. It's all gone because. And it doesn't come from the right. The right doesn't call up and say, did you vote for Hillary, Hitler or Communist? I'm not going to talk to you. They're live and let live. I listen to Neil Young. I despise what he is, and I don't mean his person, but his politics and his meanness. But I have nothing against his. I'm not going to boycott him. I like his music still. I, you know, I try to not do what they do, but they do it. They're the ones.
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Jack Fowler
They make it tough.
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Victor Davis Hanson
They make it tough for them. It's high stakes. And the more they lose and the more happy conservatives get and the more relaxed they are, the more that they do things like celebrate. The worst thing I've seen in the modern culture was this student at Texas Tech that grabbed his neck and emulated Charlie Kirk dying and Satanicum. Then he went up on the stage and repeated that. And then when they kicked him out, he went on Go Fund to get money for that, played the victim. And then he said he was in a state of, I don't know, anger or depression. He wasn't. It was cold, calculated kabuki theater, kind of just showing what it would be like in the last seconds of Charlie Kirk's life in front of all these people. And then all these people. It was just pure evil. And it reminded me there's certain imagery. This has been a really remarkable, in the negative way, just a historic month when I see the. Because it was so visual. You see visual things and you can't get the imagery out of your mind. When I see that guy reproducing the final death throes of Charlie Kirk and snickering and then laughing, or when I see arena on that car and I see this guy methodically look at her and then get up and kill her. And then this look of bewilderment. And it was like, oh, My God, I'm dying. I'm not going to be in this world in 60 seconds. And then all those four passengers watching this, watching this. And then as she dies and starts to slump over and the murderer has already walked out dripping with blood. And you do hear on the video, got the white girl. You do, I heard it twice. And then they just kind of look over, oh, not my problem. Or wow, he's dying. And you think. And then you hear Van Jones say, CNN commentator, that Charlie Kirk said this was a racial thing and how dare he? And he attacked Charlie Kirk. And I thought I wanted to say to Van Jones, van, there were five people around him. 80% were black. Why did he pick the one out of five to kill one? Okay, one. He picked the one person and after he killed her, he didn't touch the other four, he just let them go. And why did the other four just sidestep this one person? And do you really do what Charlie Kirk did say when he said reverse it? Do you really believe that if this had been some white hair, white homeless looking person and there was a beautiful young black girl getting off work and he systematically slit her throat, why four white people watched him do it. And then as she started to faint, they did not render any assistance. And then you would be told if you noticed that, that you were a racist. That is incredible. That scene and then the other scene of Charlie Kirk. And I only watched, I just saw it. I wasn't prepared. The first time when he's hit and he just. It's almost like that. 30:06 bullet took him in the air and delivered him some other world. Because I don't know about the autopsy, I don't know, but I know that rifle. I've shot that type of rifle a lot. And it is a very powerful. And I think Charlie was deceased within seconds where that wound was. And it's just something about that. And then when I get the other images of this creepy guy with his little stupid text with his trans furry boyfriend and then this ABC guy and Montel Williams saying this was a love story and it's so repulsive. And that image of him. And then I hear Elon OMAR compared Charlie, Dr. Frankenstein and he created a monster that tore his neck up. That is, it's just so grotesque. And that imagery, all these images, it just was. I think it just broke everybody's moral spine, so to speak. They just said, I can't. This is surreal. What's going on? What went on in that car and how that. And then when the Story came out about it. He was letting out 14 felonies and he was let out by a magistrate who never passed the bar and she had a vested interest in alternative treatment centers that she co run and she was sent. It was just incredible when you saw that. And the same thing about this guy with the gun and how people were almost glorifying what he did and it was just so meaningless. It was just. And then. And you know, it just. I don't know what I'm trying to say but the imagery of all of these things I think really were imprinted because they were all on videos. And that's what really. And that guy who reenacted the. That was on video. It wasn't just. You read about somebody who made a stupid mistake and he reenacted of the wound. You saw what he did twice and it's.
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Jack Fowler
Yeah, you know, imagine if someone had mocked George Floyd's death a few days after it happened.
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Victor Davis Hanson
Oh yeah, what have you done? I wrote an article and yeah, then they said everybody on cnn they're searching for a George Floyd. That was really an obscene thing to say. I think it's tragic that George Floyd died, but he was suffering from long Covid. He had a heart condition. He was on fentanyl, he was on methamphetamines. He was in the process of committing a felony by passing counterfeit currency. He was in the process of committing a felony by resisting arrest. He had eight prior criminal convictions. He was a prison convict. He had staged a home invasion. And that is Charlie Kirk, who was a father, happily married, created a non profit, had never been arrested, did not use. It was just night and day to compare the two. And yet they did.
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Jack Fowler
Yeah, well, the devil's around Victor, big time. So hey, we're at the end of our allotted time. Except that we can read one comment and we thank everyone who takes the time to comment. Thousands of you now on Victor's own website where this podcast can be heard or viewed and then on rumble Apple and YouTube. So here's a comment from YouTube from GailPayton7115 Victor. I'm a 70 year old woman with deep Christian beliefs. I cannot explain it, but I feel a deep grief about the death of Charlie Kirk, more than I would expect. I know a lot of people who are having the same response. It's not political. Don't underestimate this response people are having because I don't think I'm alone. Love your show. Thanks so much. That's Gail Peyton, seven.
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Victor Davis Hanson
Gail, you're not alone. I've had the same experience. I think everybody I know has had the same experience. Me too, because there was something, you know, it's not true what people are saying about him. He was a hater. He was trying to. He was trying to convince people that the indoctrination of the university was not healthy. And I don't mean that politically. I mean in terms of getting married and having children and having a house and be a member of the community. And you didn't really have to follow their antithetical trajectory that they were imprinting on everybody. That's all he was trying to do the last year of his life. Go around everywhere and, you know, meet people who disagreed with him and try to persuade them and not shout them down. There's a very good clip of him when there's a white racist who says that America is a white country. And he tells, he argues with him and says, you're wrong. He quotes the declaration. And then he says, sit down. I'm not going to tolerate that vital race. And yet they've taken all of that. And for political purposes, the left got very terrified by his death. They really did. It was just a clear cut evil act by somebody on the left. And that's why I wrote that X the other day. Seven narratives to explain that. And I finally said, but the last narrative will be the one that's the most authentic. All the six will be lies. Love story, gun did it. But when they get to the last one, after all they've tried all the other ones and they're desperate, they're going to shrug and say, I don't care anymore. They didn't believe all the seven lies. So now I'm going to tell the truth. And the truth is I'm happy he got shot. I disagree with what he did. I'm not going to apologize. And presto, you've got that from AOC and Ilyan Omar and the left. And they're comfortable where they always wanted to be with us.
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Jack Fowler
He had it coming. And by the way, you and I and everyone else have whatever's coming to us coming.
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Victor Davis Hanson
We have a rendezvous with these people somewhere. That's what's scary every time for me for the last five years. The scariest person, as I keep saying, airport friends. I was walking on a particular campus and I was on a particular sidewalk in a particular neighborhood and I saw someone look walking toward me in the opposite direction. And my little alarm system went out. Ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding. She is white. Ding, ding, Ding, ding, ding, ding. She is over 65. Ding, ding, ding, ding, ding. She is tastefully dressed in walking clothes and affluent. She has a scowl on her face as she gets near her. Be careful. So sure enough, she turned around and she just go and as if she knew who I was. Like a snaggle cat or Snagglepuss or whatever. Snagglepuss. Yeah. So. And I don't think her.
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Jack Fowler
I don't think Snagglepuss was evil.
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Victor Davis Hanson
No, I love snagglepuss. But the point is that that's a hostel with a thousand faces. I've seen her everywhere around airports and campus. And I've had maybe 10 to 20 encounters with her. And it's always, I am so much better than everybody. I am educated. I have the right zip code. I have perfect taste. I have a credential, I have a title. And you're a spokesman. Or you're trying to have these unwashed, creepy deplorables, chumps, dregs, garbage people. And I'm not going to allow you to come into my neighborhood and be in my area without letting you know how much I hate you. That's what it is. And you can call it Karen or whatever as a stereotype, but that is the one person that I. You know, I have no. That I. I just. I always say no more. Nope, I'm not going to talk to you.
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Jack Fowler
Could across the street. All right. Take a detour. All right, Victor, you've been terrific.
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Victor Davis Hanson
Thanks. Thank you everybody.
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Jack Fowler
With thanks folks for listening, for watching. We'll be back soon with another episode of the Victor Davis Hanson Show. Bye. Bye.
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