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Linus Sebastian
This episode is brought to you by Shopify. Forget the frustration of picking commerce platforms when you switch your business to Shopify, the global commerce platform that supercharges your selling. Wherever you sell with Shopify, you'll harness the same intuitive features, trusted apps, and powerful analytics used by the world's leading brands. Sign up today for your $1 per month trial period@shopify.com tech all lowercase, that's shopify.com SL tech Hey everyone, before we start our pre WAN show topic today, I'd like to acknowledge a couple folks. I'd like to acknowledge our team who work so hard to deliver outstanding content to our community. And second, I'd like to acknowledge our community. No one's perfect. Yes, even us. And for as long as Linus Media Group has existed, you guys have been there to help us. You've held us accountable when we've gone astray, and you've also supported us when an attack against us is unfair and it's time for someone else to be held accountable. Earlier this week, Gamers Nexus took us out of context again, and I can't keep ignoring this sort of thing. Linus, recently, in a WAN show episode, said the following regarding why they did.
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Luke Lafreniere
Not make a video when they found.
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Linus Sebastian
Out about the Way Honey works years ago in response to how he believed he might be perceived if he had raised awareness to Hani's actions when his team discovered them. Everyone's mad at me. It's that simple. The I'm spreading the word for the smaller creators. That argument doesn't save me there, and it's not gonna save me if I tell people to uninstall this extension that gets them a better deal so that smaller creators can get their affiliate revenue. Are you kidding me? There is just no way that I make that video and I don't end up hanging from the nearest tree. Well, that's the video we're making right now. And if that were to result in backlash like he thinks it would, then so be it. Even if we ignore how disingenuous it is to compare the climate today and what we know today to the climate years ago when we originally dropped our Honey sponsorship, our regular viewers will know that I provided additional context that dramatically changes the meaning of that quote. I mean, I don't expect everyone to agree with my viewpoint. It's very clear that not everybody does. But what I do expect is for it to be fairly represented. And this particular instance of misquoting is bad enough that many from Steve's own community have used words to describe it, like disappointing, misleading, disingenuous, and strawman. To my knowledge, no retraction has been issued, even though I believe it is unlikely that the volume of comments about this went unnoticed by Steve and his team. You guys may remember another video Steve made about us back in August of 2023, but what you might have missed is that his treatment of us then was part of the same pattern of poor ethics and misrepresentation. To be clear, many points in his video were valid, but many others were not, and it was due to fundamental flaws in his approach. Not careless or sloppy flaws, but objectively unethical un journalistic flaws. You shouldn't take my word for that. While I do often report on things and I do my best to act in the community's interest, I'm not a journalist. So why don't we Instead look@ethicsandjournalism.org they have some good articles on subjects like bad news, bias, and right to respond. Or maybe we could look to the BBC. You can pick your poison. The point is that while not every publication has exactly the same rules, are plenty of helpful resources out there that outline the generally accepted standards and ethical responsibilities of a journalist. It's clear, reading any of them, that Steve's approach in recent years falls short in numerous ways. If you prefer a video summary, here's a convenient one from Dr. Ian Cutrus of More Than Moore. The story Gamus Nexus provides is one specifically about Linus Media Group, which changes the nature of such a topic. For example, one part of ethical investigative journalism is, unless it's uncovering an explicit crime or break of the law, reaching out to get a formal response in advance. Gamers Nexus did it with principled technologies and that blew up. Gamers Nexus did it with Newegg and that blew up. Somehow those companies got special treatment, but Linus Media Group did not. This isn't me sticking up for Linus Media Group here, but I'd be interested to hear the reason for the disparity. Steve in his update video explicitly states he doesn't have to ask permission, but that's not the point here. Reaching out to Linus Media Group wouldn't stop you from posting your video, just like it didn't stop you posting him posting the principal technologies or Newegg videos. The precedent set for the last 20 years of tech journalism and 100/plus years of investigative journalism is that you at least reach out. Ian's critique was carefully worded and I don't blame him given the climate at the time. But it was both extremely valid and it was pointed enough that Steve felt compelled to respond to it. Ironically with a rushed late night ramble fest that was so poorly received that he pulled it down before I even got a chance to finish watching it back then. Thankfully there are re uploads of the video if you look for them, but in a nutshell, Steve spent about 20 minutes rationalizing that decades of journalistic best practices around right to reply simply don't apply to him. Felt a little ironic coming from someone who has accused me of gaslighting in the past. Now he did issue a sort of retraction via a community post that you can still find on the channel where he committed to republish that video at a future date, but he said that it would be within a broader channel update, so I'm not actually sure if that ever happened. And either way what he didn't do is retract his flawed arguments, only the video where he made them. I say this because you can still find many of these arguments on his secondary GN mini site in the ethics statement section. Now obviously there are some valid policies in here, but many of the others pretty much boil down to Steve's personal moral code rather than the standard journalistic code. And I'll expand on that a bit later, but the short version is that no reputable journalist would validate his arbitrary justification for his own conflicts of interest or his convoluted no contact policy that he used to justify his failure to reach out to us for commenting as part of our right to respond. Now, some folks don't seem to understand why this is so important. I have seen lots of speculation that Linus was just upset because Steve cleverly didn't give him a chance to weasel out of legitimate criticism. But that is not the case. We have proven over the years again and again we welcome constructive criticism and and we go out of our way to maintain open communication channels with our community. Like through our sponsor, excuse me, through our Sponsor concern section of our forum, and through our incredible ECC squad who lends us their expertise at multiple stages of our production pipeline. No right to respond matters because of the impact that it can have on your accuracy. By taking a single source and for his own reasons refusing to fact check their misrepresentations, Steve made multiple critical errors in his coverage of the Billet Lab situation. Now look, I know this example is from two years ago, but it's one that I'm obviously familiar with and it very clearly illustrates the way that Steve believed and still believes that he should be allowed to just avoid inconvenient data sources when he crafts his narratives. First up, Steve missed that Billet originally gifted the block to us we were under no obligation to return it. He missed that they told us explicitly that it should work with a 4090 before we attempted it. He missed that Billet told us they were comfortable with us publishing the underperforming results as long as we put it in context. And finally, Steve missed that the block only went into our charity auction because of an internal miscommunication that left the block marked as Keeper, a mistake that I took action on within literal minutes of finding out. Now, I acknowledge that I didn't handle the situation perfectly, but I think it is undeniable that these omissions and errors are significant and that they've done significant, possibly irreparable damage to my reputation, to my company, and to my finances. To be clear, I'm only pointing out the finances because it's such an important factor in cases of libel and defamation. As I stated recently when I was discussing the Honey class action, I'm not a litigious person. I have no intention of filing any kind of suit because a it's really hard to say if the line to defamation has been clearly crossed, and B it would be a giant waste of time and money for everyone involved. I only bring it up to underscore the gravity of the situation. The thing is, words mean what they mean, and while morality is a personal judgment, journalistic ethics is not. It's determined by collaboration and consensus between peers in the industry. Look, if Steve wants to do his own thing and call himself a YouTuber with strong moral fiber, that's his opinion and he's entitled to it. And you're entitled to agree or disagree. But if he wants to use words like ethics or investigative journalism, then there are objective standards that he needs to uphold and he doesn't get to decide when they're important and when they're not. Now, I believe that Steve is aware of these distinctions which suggest that he is either ignoring his knowledge because he has failed to properly understand it, or because he is dishonest. I have no evidence to suggest that he is not smart enough to understand these principles. What I do have experience with personally is his dishonesty. The misquote of me in the Honey Lawsuit video that forced me to address this is self evident, but it's the rationalization for not reaching out about billit that paints a more complete picture. For starters, he asserts that the information presented in his the problem with Linus Media Group video was already public knowledge. Some of it was, some of it clearly wasn't. Billet Lab's representations of our private communication were not public knowledge and as we demonstrated in our response, they were not provided in good faith or with the appropriate context. Had he reached out for clarification, I feel it would have been clear both to himself and to his audience that the events that led to the block being auctioned were an honest accident caused by a miscommunication. I think it also would have been obvious that any perception that I behaved like a thief or a liar is not supported by the facts. It also would have been clear that some retractions and corrections were required in order to address the information that I provided. To my knowledge, no such action has been taken and the original video is still up. Since we're at this, I would also be very curious to see receipts for the claims that we have a history of failure to resolve issues or unprofessionalism in prior communications. Okay. GN further writes, we previously had non public contact with this organization LMG here about similar matters that were not resolved satisfactorily or wherein we sometimes were the recipients of aggressive messaging pertaining to review Top topics. Sorry, topics. That is an extraordinary claim that I believe requires extraordinary evidence. I'm not going to deny I've had my fair share of cranky days in my life. It is possible also that he could be referring to another individual who worked here. But I dug through every DM and email that I could find with Steve. I probably don't have all of them. I have switched phones many times in my life, but I can't find any evidence to support this. I'm not perfect. So I want to make it up front right here and say that if I acted unprofessionally or aggressively at any point, that was not my intention and I'm truly sorry. But also, the whole thing just doesn't make any sense. Like if you stop and think about it, if he reached out for comment and I actually responded in the manner that he alleges, I might with dishonesty or aggression, publishing that response, right? That would be great supporting material for his expose. So even if the argument that he doesn't need to reach out because I could be rude in return held up ethically, which it doesn't. It also doesn't hold up logically. And the same goes for his claims that I could somehow turn it into an opportunity to mislead. Mislead who? Assuming his evidence and conclusions are solid, any deceptive action that I took in public would again give him further ammunition to make his case. And unless he's afraid that I could somehow bamboozle him in private, the most that I could do there is offer an explanation or context, both of which could only help him if his intent was truly to provide an accurate account. Unfortunately, as many of you have come to realize after the latest honey thing, I don't believe that that was ever the intent. Now look, I know that the first criticism of this segment is going to be There goes Linus again, all emotional defensive. But what would you do? What would you have me do? I apologized for the errors that we've made and I kept my mouth shut about this stuff for ages in the interest of moving past. This is not working. And like this isn't some random comment on Reddit, guys. This is an influencer with massive reach misrepresenting me on an ongoing basis. How long should I stay silent to atone for my real sins? And how many times should I be unfairly attacked before I'm allowed to get defensive? Thing is, if I allow myself to be misrepresented, that opens the door for someone else to be misrepresented. At some point, I'm sure you guys can agree, it becomes necessary to stand up for yourself. I am not saying I'm perfect, spoiler, I'm super not. But there are numerous conflicts of interest around Gamers Nexus covering us in any way, which he well knows because he lists them on his website. And a token gesture like forgoing the AdSense revenue on one video falls a little flat when you compare what can be gained through subscriber growth AdSense revenue on future videos, not to mention from elevating one's own reputation and brand at the cost of a competitor. Over the last year and a half, I've made sometimes quite difficult efforts to put aside my personal feelings and move on, in spite of my well founded concerns about Steve's impartiality. Not to mention the painful personal history some of which I just laid out. We, including me personally, have made an active effort to just go back to normal. Start shouting out gamers Nexus. We've done it multiple times for their stories of reporting, and so we should when people do good work, we as an industry should praise it. But that should be a two way street. The honest truth is I don't actually know what Steve's issue with me is today. My last message to him was on the day he published the expose and I never got a response. I will read it here so we can all be on the same page. A journalist might have reached out for comment to get valuable context first, but we both know that once again, this wasn't about making the most accurate video your glass house is showing here. I'm referring, of course, to the analogy of throwing stones in a glass house. Scaling beyond a few dudes is a big challenge, and I really hope that one day you get there. 1. I still think that even if your judgment is clouded right now by the giant conflict of interest you have around reporting on us, you your heart's in the right place and that it would be good for the industry. 2. I think it'll be good for your content and for your audience for you to have a broader perspective. I'll be moving forward as normal and won't be participating in any kind of nonsense public sniping. It'd be good for views or whatever, but I'm pretty focused on growing the company and our test capabilities and our team. You're still welcome at future LTX events and we'd be happy to resume working together in good faith if you ever decide again that working together as pressure is good for the industry. Until then, Linus, what I said holds true today, including the part at the end. I want to move forward, but that's going to take some work from both parties, not just me. So I'm going to shift gears and the next part will be directed to Steve, who was sent an advance copy of my letter today, which he has responded to, kind of along with a request for comment on his apparent personal challenges around covering us objectively. Steve on WAN show Today I'll be doing a segment outlining some of the ethical and journalistic issues with your content that I have observed personally and that I have seen raised by the community, I will be especially focused on how they have impacted your coverage of me and my company because I'm most familiar with the relevant facts. But these issues appear to run deeper and I believe they could be impacting your ability to be objective overall, something I know the community values greatly. There will be a particular focus on your stance around right of reply since it affects accuracy so much, and there will also be some discussion around misquoting, as in the recent Honey video, as well as your ability to address or use your inability to address your clear conflicts of interest when it comes to covering an entity that you have chosen to view as a direct competitor rather than as a collaborator or peer as you did in the past. If you have some comments and evidence on what breakdowns caused your inaccurate coverage of us in the past, why you seem to find it so challenging to cover us objectively, and what steps you plan to make to rectify these issues in the future. I would be happy to include your thoughts in this segment. The segment will also include the following letter that is addressed to you. Steve we do our best around here to do what we believe is right and to stand up for the consumer. That leads to us doing journalisty things sometimes, and I understand basic journalistic principles, but I'm not a journalist and I've never claimed to be. The reason I'm sending this to you then is not because I'm some journalist reaching out for comment, but out of respect and because I was once a collaborator and supporter, and I hope to be again someday. For that to happen, though, I do have some requests. Everyone is human and we all make mistakes, but I believe that for you to become the journalist you aspire to be, there are some errors in both your approach and in your coverage that are large enough to merit correction. Obviously, not everything needs to be pulled your methods aside. It's clear you were right about a lot of things in August of 23, but it's also clear that between the conjecture, editorialization and what I hope are simply errors rather than lies, a number of retractions are in order both on that piece and in your other coverage. This isn't just for me, but also for your community who looks to you to do the right thing. As for the personal side of things, I can't ask you to like me. You clearly disagree on a personal moral basis with some things I do which of them are real and which of them are performative. I'm actually not sure anymore, but it doesn't matter. That's your personal compass and you got to follow it. What does matter is treating others in the industry with respect and being prepared to be held accountable the same way you hold others accountable. Traditional journalism, while a competitive battlefield, has no absolute authority and is quite often a brotherhood with shared goals that hold each other accountable to mutually agreed upon standards. Standards. It's not a brutal free for all. So as part of being a contributing member of the Tech brotherhood, I expect you to be open to critique in the same way that you expect others to be open to critique. I also expect that if you cover us publicly in the future, you do so with honesty, impartiality, and proper disclosure of your numerous conflicts of interest. With that said, regardless of your motives in 23, your actions did serve as a wake up call for us to supercharge the changes that we were slow rolling and for that I'm thankful. Now it's time for your wake up call, should you choose to accept it. If you can't put your biases aside, simply recusing yourself is an option, but it might require some further retractions since you've claimed in the past that covering us is so very important because of our business's relevance to the tech industry. Well, if that's no longer the case, then any snipes that relied on that for justification probably need to go too. I understand you may not want to rebuild this bridge, but I still want you to know that while Gamers Nexus LLC is every bit as much of a for profit business as Linus Media Group Incorporated, I, Linus Sebastian the individual, still see you, Stephen Burke the individual, as a colleague and potential future collaborator. Because the reality of it is personal feelings aside, we both fight for the same team, the consumers and the community. A community that is stronger if we just cut the tribalism and work together. I've always said that a rising tide lifts all ships and that we all benefit from more interest in our hobby and more contributors to our community. I have always encouraged our viewers to follow multiple outlets and get multiple perspectives, including yours. You used to tell me that you agreed with those things. I hope you can again, because this is going to be especially important as we navigate the weirdness around benchmarking machine learning assisted cards like the upcoming 50 series. So in summary, I welcome valid, constructive good faith two way feedback. But when I told you a year ago that I had no interest in public sniping matches, that was the truth. Our community in tech used to stand out as one that embraced collaboration and rejected beef. I would like that again. I chose to make my statement as a segment on WAN show and a clip on our clips channels rather than a dedicated video in hopes of finding a balance between sharing my side finally and igniting drama for views. So can we forget the past and move forward? See you at Computex, Linus. Now I'd like to come back to addressing you all for once in the history of online communities. Guys, I beg of you, this is not. Ooh, shots fired. Do not get into a mudslinging match over this. Continue the good work you do holding creators accountable. But this is not, and it should never be, LTT versus gn, Us versus Them. Some folks are going to insist on interpreting it that way, but I believe that the majority, the rational viewers should be able to see the truth of what I'm saying, even if they don't always agree with the source and see the importance of moving on. As for the ones that can't do that, look, if their viewpoint is closed, we gain nothing but arguing with them except wasting our energy. Energy we need to power RTX 5090s. So let's rise above it. So with that in mind then, funny memes inbounds. I like humor as much as anyone, but if Steve wants to move on then I would like to respectfully request an end to the GN bashing posts. For that matter, any other publication in our various community gathering places, YouTube comments, Discord, Reddit and the LTT forum, and any that I haven't thought of. I'd like us to be the change we want to see in the world. Thank you you guys. One last note. I know that we did announce that we were going to launch our Mod Mat this week, a project, by the way, that we kicked off long before the August controversy, and that was created in collaboration with modrite, the owner of the Mod Mat patent who's been making them since before anyone in the creator space got the idea. But even even though our Mod Mat has nothing to do with Steve, I felt it would be tacky for us to have a long discussion about an important topic like this, then immediately pitch to a sales pitch, our pivot to a sales pitch for a product that competes with one of his. So we're pushing the launch to next week. Now, with that unpleasant business out of the way, welcome to the WAN show. We've got a great show for you guys this week. I went on the Tonight show with Jimmy Fallon, so I'm going to be talking about that. I had. Dude, I had the time of my life.
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Luke Lafreniere
I. I'm. I. I honestly know very little about it and I'm just as interested as probably they are to hear about it.
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Linus Sebastian
I am stoked. We're also going to be talking about a perception that I've seen in the community that review embargoes are bad. Yeah, let's talk about that. What else we got this week?
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Luke Lafreniere
Nintendo officially announced the Switch 2 and goodbye TikTok. And what's happening in the world of apps because of that, I was prepared. Look at that.
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Linus Sebastian
Wow.
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Luke Lafreniere
What year is it, dude?
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Linus Sebastian
The show is brought to you today by Honey Vessi and Rocket Money and of course by our rap partner dbrand and our chair partner, Secret Lab. And he's dead. Got him.
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Luke Lafreniere
I knew about most of this. I didn't know about that.
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Linus Sebastian
I just made that up.
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Luke Lafreniere
Oh my gosh.
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Linus Sebastian
I was feeling irreverent Lift the tension.
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Luke Lafreniere
Do we wanna. What are we doing? What are we doing? Are we doing Fallon? Are we doing one of mine? What's the plan?
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Linus Sebastian
I wanna talk about the Tonight Show.
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Luke Lafreniere
Okay.
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Linus Sebastian
On Wednesday. So what? What? What? This would be on the. Off that. Okay. How annoying is it that you click the thing down here and the calendar doesn't pop anymore? So. So on Wednesday the 8th, I got an email that was like, hey, so, like, ces, right, man. And I'm like, yeah, I'm a little busy. I'm like, you know, covering ces. I'm literally there right now. But, yeah, ces. And they're like, do you want to be on the Tonight show with Jimmy Fallon? I'm like, I gotta be honest with you. I knew my answer, but immediately I was like, I gotta trust. I don't want to just trust myself on this one because it's. It's a huge stage, and on the one hand, I could nail it, but on the other hand, I could bomb it.
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Luke Lafreniere
Oh, yeah.
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Linus Sebastian
Oh, yeah. I have that. I have. Dude, I have bombed things.
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Luke Lafreniere
It's also, like, as much as. Honestly, I think the viewership across both. I Googled what the viewership. Yeah, that show is. I think it's, like, honestly, fairly similar.
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Linus Sebastian
Okay. We can talk about that more later, though.
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Luke Lafreniere
Whether that's true or not, I have no idea. But it's just a totally different thing. It's not. It's not the way show. This is. This is like a home. Home turf advantage, you know? Like, there's. There's the sets.
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Linus Sebastian
Yes.
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Luke Lafreniere
There's things that we're used to. You've done show coverage.
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Linus Sebastian
I'm with my shooters, who I can riff with and stuff like that.
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Luke Lafreniere
Like, there's. There's things that you're used to, and then there's. Then there's just completely, like, whatever the heck that experience was, you can't even imagine.
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Linus Sebastian
Okay. So, anyway, so the first thing I did was I fired off an email to, I think, Colton, Yvonne Chewy, who's our community manager, and I think I included Taran as well. I'm like, what do you think? Should I do this? And they were basically like, oh, yeah. And James. James S. Because it would disrupt our production schedule a little bit. Like, it basically cost three days because of the timing. I had to fly in the day before. I had to do the show. Wait, did I fly in the day before or. No, I did a red eye. I did a red eye the night of and then did the show, and then I Had to fly out the.
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Luke Lafreniere
Next day and the show's not at night. I thought it was live this whole time.
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Linus Sebastian
It's, it's.
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Luke Lafreniere
I mean, I haven't.
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Linus Sebastian
It's live to tape.
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Luke Lafreniere
I haven't watched one.
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Linus Sebastian
So in terms of the actual filming experience, it functionally might as well be live because they're doing live camera switching. But it actually, like, if you've ever attended it in person, which, which you can do. And it was a packed house because, like Bad Bunny was on the show. It's actually a few hours before the actual. The airing of the episode. So they have time to, you know, bleep any. Make minor, really bad cuss words.
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Luke Lafreniere
I thought it was like a 15 second buffer or something. So they had time to bleep and like block things out and that's it.
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Linus Sebastian
No, but what I will say is that the taping experience is really not paced from what I saw that differently than if it was live. I think if I was to guess I would say the liveness or the. I would say the live to tape rather than liveness is more about making sure that it's really smooth and really clean and less about that they couldn't do it live if they really wanted to. They clearly could.
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Luke Lafreniere
Yeah.
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Linus Sebastian
That team was so pro. We'll get to that in a second, though. So anyway, they basically gave me the green light. We figured out the travel arrangements. I promised myself. Do you remember when this happened? I promised myself like nine years ago, 10 years ago, that I would never do a trip immediately after CES again.
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Luke Lafreniere
I'm. I probably. Yeah.
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Linus Sebastian
Do you remember when I did that?
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Luke Lafreniere
No, but I'm pretty sure we've talked about it.
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Linus Sebastian
I was at CES and Ford reached out wanting to sponsor a trip to the New York International Auto Show. I literally came back from Las Vegas, had a meal with my family in the airport, and then got on my plane going to the next trip. It was horrible. And I told myself I would never do it again. Well, I did it again and I am so glad that I did. Dude. Okay, so. So back to it being different. I've done live before. I think the first time I ever performed live, and I don't mean like when I was in a choir recital when I was a kid or whatever. The first time I ever had a pretty early one, like work, the crowd was at the NCIX Tech Fair at Aberdeen Mall.
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Luke Lafreniere
That's the same what I was going to say. Darn it.
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Linus Sebastian
So what happened then, and this, this is really funny, was Microsoft. I believe was one of the main sponsors of the event. But realistically, do you think Microsoft actually has the time of day for. It was like, a weird little thing in the courtyard of this mall, like a shopping mall.
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Luke Lafreniere
It was odd.
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Linus Sebastian
They just set up, like, tables and, like, down one of the hallways by the NCIX store. And then vendors were just, like, sitting behind their tables. I. Whatever. Like a couple. I think like a couple of case brands had some cases on their tables and stuff. It was super weird, super janky. Anyway, Microsoft didn't have the time of day for this, but they sponsored it because the way that sponsorship dollars work for retailers is typically through MDF or marketing Development funds, I think is what it's short for. And essentially, rather than being a negotiation where I go, hey, Luke, I want to do a video on your water bottle. Give me some money and we'll do the video. The way it actually works is I'm a store and I sell these water bottles that Luke's company makes, and a percentage of my sales revenue gets rebated back to me for approved marketing activities. So realistically, what happened was NCIX was just looking for a way to spend some mdf and Microsoft was like, fine, screw it. Who cares? So we did this weird. We did this weird, like, tech expo thing in Aberdeen Mall. At some point, they're like, hey, we need you to go on the stage. And do. I think it was, like a giveaway or something. I don't even remember what it was, but it was one of the most awkward things that I have ever done in my life because it makes sense. I had no idea what the point was of anything I was doing was I had no experience with, like, crowd work or addressing a live audience. It's really. At that point, I was already making videos. I'm pretty sure. Yeah. Because Luke was in the picture, so I was obvious I'd been making videos for a while, but talking to a camera is different.
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Luke Lafreniere
I think that must have. That must have been 2012.
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Linus Sebastian
I can. I can perform for the camera without even thinking about it. It's. It's second nature to me now. Live is different. Like, when you make a joke live. Like, I think the. The waifu one didn't land in person.
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Dan
It landed in different ways. That was so good.
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Linus Sebastian
The waifu one did not land in person. Dude. The kind of mortification that you feel like when a joke doesn't. Yeah, when a joke doesn't land with you guys, it's just like, I shake it off.
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Luke Lafreniere
Yeah.
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Linus Sebastian
But the silence is deafening. It's deafening silence. And I could tell immediately that I did something wrong. Not, not wrong, like, like they were mad at me or anything wrong. But when I was like, I'm on real tv. Do you know how many times someone has probably said that on the show?
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Luke Lafreniere
Oh, tons.
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Linus Sebastian
For regular viewers. Like, come on. I feel like that's like, man, what would that. What would that be? Like? It'd be, oh, it'd be like walking up to a beloved TV actor and asking them to do their catchphrase. You know, like, it's just, ugh. Ugh. It's played out. So I did that. Which immediately got me all like, oh, I did that. I can't believe I did the thing. And then, you know, obviously I have some idea what they want to talk to me about, but it is very much. And I gotta say, Fallon gets a really bad rap for, like, I don't know, overreacting or fake reacting to things. Dude, what are you talking about? He actually, they told me he went out of his way because I respectfully asked. I said, look, I value genuineness in people's reactions to things. I would respectfully ask that while you explain everything so that he, like, you know, knows what it is that you not have him put the glasses on, not show him the color changing and have it be fresh, fresh, fresh. And they're like, yeah, of course. And you know what's funny is, you know how he, like, he gets a bunch of flack online for, like, overlapping at things?
- [33:25]
Luke Lafreniere
Sure. Honestly, I have no idea. I don't. I don't watch any form of tv. It's not, it's not against his show. I don't watch any tv.
- [33:32]
Linus Sebastian
Well, he does sometimes because, like, I. I kind of, like, looked up, you know, what, what to expect, you know, from the. Because I've watched clips from time to time, but I also don't have a TV subscription, so, like, I watch clips on YouTube. Right. Like, that's. That's about it. And, and, and I was also. I've read through a lot of the comments on ours, and the flip side is there's people saying he looked so uninterested. No, what he looked like to me as a person who was actually there, who was actually sitting on the couch across from him was someone who was listening to me talk about things and genuinely experiencing them. I thought he was great. And he was such. Dude. Bad Bunny is the most effortlessly cool person that I have ever met. No, no, I'm serious. I barely even interacted with him. Did you see him put on the glasses. I swear to God, that guy could put on a milk crate and it would look cool.
- [34:26]
Luke Lafreniere
Pull the. What's her name? She put on the potato sack.
- [34:29]
Linus Sebastian
Sure. Yeah. In fact, I bet a lot of people didn't notice this, but he was wearing. For his belt, he was wearing a rope.
- [34:36]
Luke Lafreniere
Oh.
- [34:37]
Linus Sebastian
With his, like, slick outfit, he just had, like, a rope tied around his waist.
- [34:41]
Luke Lafreniere
It's probably some fashionable thing because.
- [34:44]
Linus Sebastian
Because. Because when you're that cool, anything you do is cool. Anything you touch is cool, and anything you say is cool. Also, that was hilarious when he was like, nudes.
- [34:54]
Luke Lafreniere
Yeah.
- [34:55]
Linus Sebastian
Let me put it.
- [34:56]
Luke Lafreniere
I was kind of surprised they left that in.
- [34:58]
Linus Sebastian
Let me put it this way, sir. You probably get nudes. I don't.
- [35:04]
Luke Lafreniere
Have you ever.
- [35:06]
Linus Sebastian
I have all my DMs turned off. Yeah. So I don't know. Maybe at some point, but. Yeah. There's no way that I. There's no way that I. Yeah. Did Bad Bunny steal the glasses? I mean, come on, guys. He's a professional. And do you think he can't afford glasses if he really wants them? Like, the brand immediately responded saying they would send him glasses. Like, he doesn't need to do that. Those ones are pre. Those are development samples. Probably those.
- [35:33]
Luke Lafreniere
Pretty cool.
- [35:33]
Linus Sebastian
They came back. Have you seen them?
- [35:34]
Luke Lafreniere
Not in person. I never. I had. When you were talking about bringing out glasses, I thought you were. You were going to do the. The screen ones. Big Screen beyond or whatever.
- [35:44]
Dan
Oh, like.
- [35:45]
Linus Sebastian
Oh, a VR headset.
- [35:46]
Luke Lafreniere
Yeah.
- [35:46]
Linus Sebastian
That's a lot of setup here. Here you go.
- [35:48]
Luke Lafreniere
Okay.
- [35:49]
Linus Sebastian
All right. We're doing the demo again. We're doing the demo again. Let's go, boys.
- [35:52]
Luke Lafreniere
So how do I. It's somewhere over here.
- [35:54]
Linus Sebastian
Yeah, Somewhere over there. A little bit further back. Oh, hey.
- [35:58]
Luke Lafreniere
That is actually pretty wild. While you're wearing.
- [36:00]
Linus Sebastian
Cool, right?
- [36:01]
Luke Lafreniere
That's crazy.
- [36:02]
Linus Sebastian
We have a short. I'm not sure if we've published it yet. So you know how on the show, he asked how it works, and I.
- [36:07]
Luke Lafreniere
Was like, yeah, that is pretty cool.
- [36:09]
Linus Sebastian
Magic. Don't worry about it. Right.
- [36:11]
Luke Lafreniere
Wow.
- [36:13]
Linus Sebastian
Whoops. Whoops.
- [36:14]
Luke Lafreniere
Okay. I see how they charge, too. They're not that, like, bulky for having electronics in them.
- [36:19]
Linus Sebastian
No, they're super cool. Yeah. So I know on the show, I kind of hand waved it away because I knew my segment wasn't super long, and I was like, magic. But we do know how they work. And we shot a short when I got back that looks like it hasn't gone up yet, but we'll be going up very soon. Explaining exactly how they work. So stay tuned for that on the LTT channel. Channel. They're sup. They're super cool, man. What else is there for me to talk about with it? It was, it was so surreal. Like, they did. They did a walkthrough with me so that I'd be familiar with the, like, the stage layout and stuff. Like, they wouldn't just shove me out there and be like, go. So they did a walkthrough where they just had stand ins at the desk for Bad Bunny and Jimmy. And then they like open the curtain and they say, okay, go. And so, you know, they show me how to do the walk up and shake hands. And shake hands and sit down. Oh, my God, the way I sat down, I was so awkward.
- [37:12]
Luke Lafreniere
I don't even think I noticed.
- [37:13]
Linus Sebastian
And like, I let my pants get hiked up like this.
- [37:15]
Luke Lafreniere
I noticed that. I thought that was on purpose.
- [37:17]
Dan
No.
- [37:18]
Luke Lafreniere
Okay, question. Were those your darn tough socks or. Or did you sneak the LTT prototype.
- [37:22]
Linus Sebastian
Socks on almost everything on my person? Was ltt?
- [37:26]
Luke Lafreniere
Was I the only one that noticed the socks?
- [37:28]
Linus Sebastian
Nope.
- [37:28]
Luke Lafreniere
Okay, okay.
- [37:29]
Linus Sebastian
No, no, no. The community loved it. They saw the commuter bag. You know what's funny?
- [37:33]
Luke Lafreniere
I noticed the commuter bag for sure.
- [37:34]
Linus Sebastian
It was actually their team that was. That kind of hinted that or that kind of started the idea rolling that like, I'd have a bag of tricks, you know, And I was like, oh, that's perfect. I have a backpack and that works for me. And to be clear, I fully disclosed to them like, that it was my backpack. And I saw a lot of people speculating that. Oh, they, they wouldn't have. They wouldn't let him say LTT store or they wouldn't let him pimp it or whatever. That did not happen.
- [38:03]
Luke Lafreniere
I didn't get that.
- [38:03]
Linus Sebastian
I could not say a negative word about the Tonight show team if I tried.
- [38:10]
Luke Lafreniere
That's cool.
- [38:10]
Linus Sebastian
They were professional, responsive. So accommodating. I mean, I guess they have to be used to like actual famous people and stars and stuff. Or is that they're like tripping over themselves. Like, can we bring you one of these? Can we get you some of this? Are you comfortable? Are you? I'm like, I'm good. They're like, can we close the door of your green room? I'm like, I mean, the door's right there. I could close it. Yeah, like, they were, they were so, so accommodating. Loved me. Oh, here's another thing that I think people don't necessarily appreciate about S tier personalities. Like, I Consider myself an A tier personality. I think I'm. I think I'm pretty darn good on camera for the most part. I screw up sometimes and you guys could obviously tell I was pretty nervous on the Tonight show segment for the first part.
- [39:02]
Luke Lafreniere
I. I said this in the pre show and you told me to shut up, which is fair because this should have held it for this segment. But, yeah, absolutely. You did lock in, though. I. I had. The whole time you were sitting there talking, I was like, man, stop. Like, stop talking about yourself and start talking about tech crap. Because the second you start talking about tech crack, you'll be fine. And then you finally did and immediately locked in. I was like, ah, we're good.
- [39:26]
Linus Sebastian
That's my boy.
- [39:28]
Luke Lafreniere
So he's got it, man.
- [39:30]
Linus Sebastian
Jaden's in chat. That Linus seemed so nervous. I know him irl. Duh. And it was so weird to see him like that. It was endearing, though. Thanks, Jaden.
- [39:41]
Luke Lafreniere
You did totally lock in, though.
- [39:43]
Linus Sebastian
Oh, thank you. Thank you.
- [39:47]
Luke Lafreniere
Yeah, yeah. J2134 in full plane chat said the lock in was crazy, but.
- [39:51]
Linus Sebastian
Yeah, but okay, Jimmy S Tier, right? Like Ludwig S Tier, you know, you encounter people that you just. You look at and you go, I could practice my whole life and I will never make it look as easy as you do. Like the, the whole, the whole dick joke thing with the laptop. Do you not think he knew where. He knew something was coming? I mean, how. Maybe not that, Maybe not that, but there's no way that he didn't know something's coming. Right. The way I set it up. And I'm like. And I'm like, ooh, a laptop.
- [40:31]
Luke Lafreniere
I was a little concerned when you did that. Not gonna lie. And then it worked out.
- [40:34]
Linus Sebastian
Then that means that. Then that means I did good. That means I did good. Anyway, the guy's such a pro. He just. He walked into it for me, you know, like. Yeah, he. When he needed to talk, to help, you know, slow me down or calm my nerves or just get us to move on when I'm being boring. He did it gently.
- [40:53]
Luke Lafreniere
He was a good orchestrator.
- [40:55]
Linus Sebastian
Yes. And when it was time to let me talk and respond sparingly, he did that. He did that. Yeah. So I. Dude, I had a heck of a time. I met him for like five minutes before the show, and, oh, I was so stoked because I feel like production teams can be very protective of their talent and. And they. And they should be, right. Because that the entire show rides on the talent delivering night after night. You know, so they could. They can be very protective. So when I said what they told me Jimmy's favorite game because they kind of wanted the game on the. On the extra glasses to be something that he was deeply familiar with. They told me it's Zelda.
- [41:42]
Luke Lafreniere
Yeah.
- [41:42]
Linus Sebastian
My relationship with Nintendo, my confidence that I could go on network or. Sorry, not broadcast, broadcast tv. What's the difference? I forget. But there's a difference. One's free, one anyway, whatever. If I go on tv. Okay.
- [42:00]
Luke Lafreniere
Yeah.
- [42:01]
Linus Sebastian
And use Nintendo gameplay, my confidence level pretty low. So I'm sitting there, I'm racking my brain. I look down and I see my what would Luke do? Bracelet. And I was like, how did I not think to just give him Baldur's Gate 3?
- [42:20]
Luke Lafreniere
Yeah.
- [42:21]
Linus Sebastian
It's same control schema. Because all I needed to do him to do was walk around a little bit and just be like, whoa.
- [42:25]
Luke Lafreniere
Yeah.
- [42:26]
Linus Sebastian
He had 162 inch screen in front of him. Right. That's all I needed him to do. So. So all I did so in the pre show. So in the pre brief, I was like, okay, look, your team, like, your team's like, oh, make sure that you, you know, go through this with. I'm like, okay. So it uses. It uses standard dual stick control. He's like, okay, yeah, yeah.
- [42:45]
Luke Lafreniere
But, yeah, he'll be fine.
- [42:46]
Linus Sebastian
Yeah, yeah. Ah, dude, he would. I don't know. He was. He was super.
- [42:49]
Luke Lafreniere
Yeah. And you didn't need it. Like, he didn't need to get in a fight or anything. He just needed to see that he could see the screen in his glasses. That was all that really needed to happen.
- [42:56]
Linus Sebastian
Yeah. And. And. And I was very sure that Larian wouldn't go after us, so that was one of the other reasons that I went with that.
- [43:07]
Luke Lafreniere
Yeah, they're pretty chill.
- [43:09]
Linus Sebastian
Anyway, yeah, they made the experience completely, Completely unforgettable for me. I shared them with Luke, but they are technically not for commercial use, so I'm not gonna put them on the show right now. But they sent over a nice little photo album for me.
- [43:21]
Luke Lafreniere
Oh, yeah.
- [43:22]
Linus Sebastian
That included like. Like a cool black and white shot of the back of Jimmy's head and me standing in the green room shaking his hand. And like a nice wide of me on the set during the show and the big Tonight show logo and stuff.
- [43:36]
Luke Lafreniere
That was genuinely very cool.
- [43:37]
Linus Sebastian
Yeah, it was really different. I've never really done traditional media before.
- [43:42]
Luke Lafreniere
I didn't know that. What's up, Sven? The CEO of Larian, apparently tweeted the clip out.
- [43:47]
Linus Sebastian
Oh, that's super cool.
- [43:49]
Luke Lafreniere
Of course he did.
- [43:51]
Linus Sebastian
So I want to talk. I want to talk about the. The difference between a view on TV and a view on YouTube. Because I gotta say, on the one hand, I am so. I was so excited, like, elated to. To have this experience and to get to do this and to have it be so cool for me personally. But on the other hand, a small part of me couldn't help being like, okay, why isn't everybody this excited and impressed when we get 5 million views, like, all the time? Right? Like, why is it.
- [44:24]
Luke Lafreniere
Well, no, I think it was comparative because you look at, like, they. They upload a lot to that channel.
- [44:29]
Linus Sebastian
No, no, no, no, no, no, no. I don't mean that. I mean, like, on ltt, on a very regular basis, we upload a video that gets a couple million views.
- [44:36]
Luke Lafreniere
Yeah.
- [44:37]
Linus Sebastian
I don't have people crawling out of the woodwork from all parts of my past being like, yo, I saw you. I saw you on Fallon. But that's the thing is, even though it's. It's only because I saw a lot of people being like, oh, it was so. It was so gracious of Linus to support up and coming creators like Jimmy Fallon, which is a meme. It's a meme. It's a meme format. They don't mean any disrespect. And while, you know, we get a lot of views and stuff, what I've discovered is that even. Even though obviously I'm. I'm new media in and out all the way through to my core.
- [45:14]
Luke Lafreniere
Yeah.
- [45:15]
Linus Sebastian
A view on traditional media just plain isn't the same as a view on new media. It just plain doesn't hit as hard. Whether it's the kind of the glamour and the spectacle, whether it's the polishedness of the production, whether it's the just. Whether it's just the perception. Dude, everyone and their dog reached out to me about it. Like, people I haven't talked to in years, people Yvonne hadn't talked to in years, were reaching out to her, being like, yo, I saw Linus on Fallon.
- [45:47]
Luke Lafreniere
There's definitely. Yeah, there's a. Definitely a prestige perspective on it.
- [45:51]
Linus Sebastian
Yeah. And you know what? When I was there sitting in the studio, you got it. You got seeing the production. It's a vibe. It's a vibe. It was so cool. Let me see what else I've got. Oh, Sammy has some notes on the experience, so this is great. If you guys are. Hold on a second. I'm just going to open this in a New tab if you guys are subscribed to Floatplane. Sammy actually came with me on the trip for the express purpose of creating this behind the scenes vlog of getting to and appearing on the Tonight Show. So if you guys want to check that out, Sammy came along for the ride and he actually has some notes in here as well. He says they. Oh, no, nope. That one they says. He says bringing Yvonne was an excellent call. I actually wasn't gonna bring her until five hours before my departure.
- [46:42]
Luke Lafreniere
Why?
- [46:43]
Linus Sebastian
Well, because she has. We have a lot of stuff going on with the kids.
- [46:46]
Luke Lafreniere
Yeah, but I'm assuming she wanted to.
- [46:48]
Linus Sebastian
We have a life. She, she wanted to be supportive. You know how she is. She wants to be there doing whatever is the single most productive, useful thing. And she puts aside a lot of her own feelings to do the right thing to, to, to, to drive things forward. And so if the right thing was to make sure that, you know, the kids all get to their stuff and whatever else, she was down to do that and watch from home. And if the right thing was to make sure that I don't blow a flipping gasket freaking out about this thing, then she was down to come with me. Um, and Sammy said bringing Yvonne was an excellent call. A lot of praise warranted as, as that bolded. For keeping your nerves. For keeping your nerves. Like 5% was caught on camera in terms of nervousness and Yvonne making you calm down. If it was just you and me, all I would have been able to do is give you a thumbs up and say you got this and the shoot potentially would have gone way worse. Oh, all right. Merge plug missing had. Oh, yeah, man, I got it. Can I, can I please, for maybe the final time, ask the community not to speculate. Speculation is bad. It's bad. And if you don't know, don't say anything. Xrail is using footage from Linus on the Tonight show in their ads. Not saying this is good or bad, just notice it while scrolling. It's great promotional content for the glasses, so makes sense to use it. Quite honestly, I won't be surprised if the items he chose to take to the show are sponsors. That's exactly how it works. No, it isn't. If you don't know, don't say anything.
- [48:36]
Luke Lafreniere
And that's actually not our footage.
- [48:38]
Linus Sebastian
Yeah, that. I don't know anything about that.
- [48:40]
Luke Lafreniere
But it's their footage.
- [48:43]
Linus Sebastian
Yeah. Whether they have the rights or not. Xreal wise that I don't know. I don't nothing about that. What I do know is that xreal did not give us a dime for the appearance. What happened was we got the call on Wednesday and we went, holy crap.
- [48:58]
Luke Lafreniere
Just for reference, CES functionally closes on Thursday.
- [49:04]
Linus Sebastian
So we got the call, we went, holy crapsicles. We spent the rest of Wednesday deciding to do it and then compiling a hit list and then on. There were. There were multiple options for the segment. There was a possibility that if we didn't find anything, I would have sat on the couch, done a terrible segment and never been invited to TV ever again. But I wanted to go for gold on this because I was, like, pretty excited about it. I mean, it's. It's a cool. Yeah, it's a cool milestone.
- [49:35]
Luke Lafreniere
Even if it only happens once, might as well send.
- [49:36]
Linus Sebastian
And so I told them, look here. I told the team, look, here's what we should try to do. We should try to bring CES to the Tonight Show. So we spent Thursday part of the team. Massive shout out procurement. Massive shout out. The man in the chair, James, who was coordinating a lot of CES stuff from back here at home base. Massive shout out to the writing team that was actually at ces. I hope I'm not missing anything, but not massive shout out. Massive shout out to our team for getting that together so fast. So on Thursday, we went around to our hit list items and we basically were like, hey, here's the opportunity. Nothing is guaranteed because we have no. We're going to pitch it. It may or may not make it. You know, nothing's guaranteed. This is the op. Are you interested? And we scraped them together. The way xrail happened was I was shooting that VR. Did you watch the VR headset side by side that I did?
- [50:26]
Luke Lafreniere
No.
- [50:27]
Linus Sebastian
Okay, so I did it. I did a VR headset side by side with pimax and I'll shoot that really cool lightweight OLED one or micro OLED one. I'm so sorry. Anyway, someone's going to tell me in the chat and that's going to make it easier. Anyway, I did this, this VR thing and next to them was xrael. And I'd seen a couple articles, but they weren't actually on our hit list at that time. So I went over to X Real with. With Andrew, I think it was, who was shooting with me, Megan Ex. That's the one shift all. So I went over to xreal and I got in line for a demo and it was actually kind of a long line and we were kind of thinking of leaving. And then one of their reps came, like, scurrying over and was like, hi, what would you like to see? And I was like, oh, I actually don't have a lot of time. I was thinking I might actually go. She's like, no, no, no. I got you, I got you, I got you. So clearly she figured out who we were. And I had. At that point, I just wanted to try it out because I had read some good things about it at the show, but I. I have. I've never been a big fan of the wearable display thing.
- [51:29]
Luke Lafreniere
Yeah.
- [51:30]
Linus Sebastian
I think I remember doing a video with you a while back where we.
- [51:33]
Luke Lafreniere
Kind of trashed where we used.
- [51:35]
Linus Sebastian
It wasn't. I don't think that was an x ray 1. I think it was someone else. No, but either way, the technology, A, wasn't there, wasn't there, and B, just didn't seem compelling to me in at least that, you know, weight and form factor and dongle age situation. And I think we were pretty much on the same page there. So, you know, I don't know. I was like, I'll try it. Sure. Anyway, I try it. Blows my freaking mind because it's really good. The darkening, the chromatic. Chroma, Chromatic, electrochromatic, whatever. The darkening lenses, man, they're really good. They block out so much. Conveniently for xreal, they had a super bright, obnoxious neighbor.
- [52:22]
Luke Lafreniere
Almost convenient for them.
- [52:23]
Linus Sebastian
Exactly where their demo was set up. It was like, right there shining into your eyes and you go. And you can see it, but when you're focused on your content, you can totally ignore it. So I'm sitting there playing Switch games. I'm like, I want to take that. I want to take this tonight. So this is such a. It's such a, like, wow moment. Because that's what you want for that. Like that tight visual, too, that tight format. And I knew it wasn't going to be that, but I knew we had other things that could be more visual and more engaging.
- [52:51]
Luke Lafreniere
His reaction was quite visual, though. I think I was telling Linus about this too. When he didn't get it for a while, that almost made it so much better.
- [52:59]
Linus Sebastian
And to be clear, he wasn't faking anything. He could see the projected screen. Just. It seemed like it was like. It didn't change the experience that much. But when you can be like, yeah, yeah, it's more comfortable.
- [53:14]
Luke Lafreniere
Start spinning on, like, okay, what ways could I use this?
- [53:17]
Linus Sebastian
Yeah, it gets a lot more interesting.
- [53:19]
Luke Lafreniere
When you look away from it.
- [53:20]
Linus Sebastian
Exactly.
- [53:21]
Luke Lafreniere
Didn't Luke try them last week? Yeah, I was going along with the segment. Don't worry about it.
- [53:24]
Linus Sebastian
Oh, yeah. Anyway, week before last week, I think. Right. So. So, so anyway, we were there and I'm like, wow, this is really cool. Their CEO and founder walks past, was having a meeting with someone at the booth, which they tend to do a lot of the time. The really big wigs tend to. Not a lot of the time. They tend to not do the meetings on the show floor, though, in light of recent events involving CEOs getting gunned down in the streets. Oh, yeah, CES had a. I would say a tighter approach to security than in the past. I'd still say there's a lot of gaps. But anyway, there's. There's certainly been some conversations around, you know, CEOs and, and security.
- [54:09]
Luke Lafreniere
Yeah, I don't know if I'm going to say it.
- [54:12]
Linus Sebastian
Yeah, that's probably fine.
- [54:13]
Luke Lafreniere
There's like an incredibly easy way to get through security, but I'll just leave.
- [54:16]
Linus Sebastian
Don't worry about it. Don't worry about it. Anyway, but he happened to be there because they did have a meeting room in their booth and he was like, yo. And. And so I was. So I. So I basically, I got to pitch to him personally. Hey, here's this op. I really like this product. Can. Can. Can I take it with me right now? And they weren't able to give it to me right now. Right now. But we. I think we sent procurement back like two hours later. And that product, I think, is not coming out for a while. Like, that's not out yet. Yeah, but they were like, yeah, we got you. We got you with everything. They sent a rep with us to the Tonight Show.
- [54:51]
Luke Lafreniere
Oh, wow.
- [54:52]
Linus Sebastian
To, like, make sure that everyone was briefed and everything was cool. They gave me a briefing there on.
- [54:56]
Luke Lafreniere
The show if that was my company. Like, yeah, well, yeah, especially if it's that pre release. Like, just have them there for, like technical support, make sure nothing's gonna go wrong last night.
- [55:05]
Linus Sebastian
And he had an extra pair.
- [55:06]
Luke Lafreniere
Yeah, of course, just in case stuff.
- [55:07]
Linus Sebastian
Goes wrong with pre release hardware. But no, no, xreal didn't pay a dime to me or to the Tonight show for their appearance there. Like, not everything. Not everything is a conspiracy theory. And you know what? I don't doubt for a second that some things do involve payment 100%, but that doesn't mean that it always is. The other assumption that I saw here is Linus is doing loads of interviews so that he can go on more talks, industry events, be a speaker, etc.
- [55:42]
Luke Lafreniere
That sounds like the. Probably the thing that Linus would hate most.
- [55:46]
Linus Sebastian
So, guys, I've talked publicly already about why we went down to California. We haven't done any collabs in a while. Colin and Samir have wanted to do something with us forever. And Colton lined up the Anthony Padilla assumptions. Is it a podcast? Kind of. What is it? Interview, whatever thing. Because we were down there talking to Colin and Samir. Anyway, so that was back in December, November. I don't know. It was. It was back. It was back last year. Um, as for the Tonight show appearance, completely random, totally unrelated. There's a bunch of speculation in here that I was down there for Tonight show and therefore I hooked up with Colin and Samir and Anthony Padilla as well. They're not even on the same coast. Right. Like, come on, guys. Sometimes. Sometimes things just. Sometimes things just happen. We. We've been in the mood to do some more collabs. We've also collabed with Mighty Car Mods. We've also collabed with Doug demuro. Just. Just relax, guys. Relax, guys. It's okay. It's okay. What else? What else we got here? Man, it was so fun.
- [56:57]
Luke Lafreniere
Next topic. Do we move on?
- [57:00]
Linus Sebastian
Yeah, I think so. I've got a lot of people asking, would you go again? I would like to formally say. I would love to.
- [57:09]
Luke Lafreniere
Yeah. I honestly, the second it was announced as an idea on like Wednesday or whatever, when it was going around internally, yeah, My brain immediately jumped to like CES guy. Just like, you know, do a thing every year or, I mean, maybe more often. Who knows? Well, I don't know. But like, it was. It was a cool segment. And I think tech has gotten more boring over the years, but clearly it's not like nothing's happening.
- [57:36]
Linus Sebastian
Yeah. And it's not like there aren't people who are five years out of the loop that I could show industries that have been developing for years and years.
- [57:42]
Luke Lafreniere
And years now, non standard audience, like.
- [57:44]
Linus Sebastian
Wearable displays be like, okay, yeah. But we're at the point now where it's like, wow, cool. A lot of mainstream people, if Apple doesn't announce one, they don't know what it is. And even Apple, like, dude, do you know how easy it would be to find an Apple person who doesn't know anything about the Vision Pro? Because who cares about the Vision Pro? Hold on. I'm trying to find. I'm trying to find the. I'm trying to find the outreach. Someone asked what I put in my writer, and so I want to find my. I want to find my response email to Them. Because I basically just said. I said, can you send me an example of a previous segment that would give me some idea of what format and what I should expect? And then I said, I'm five deep in CES stuff right now, but I'll get back to you today. And then I said.
- [58:38]
Luke Lafreniere
I'm five deep.
- [58:40]
Linus Sebastian
I don't know. That's an expression, right?
- [58:44]
Dan
I know. Taylor says that all the time.
- [58:46]
Luke Lafreniere
Yeah.
- [58:48]
Linus Sebastian
Hold on. Where did I. Where did I say yes? Because I basically was like, hold on, hold on, hold on. Basically nothing. Yeah. Here we're just talking like, jet. Okay, I think I missed it. It must have been like a one liner or something. But, yeah, I had nothing in my rider. I had no idea what to expect. I've never done this before. It felt pretty cool to get the tap, you know, I'd love to know.
- [59:16]
Luke Lafreniere
We actually haven't gotten a lot of those.
- [59:18]
Linus Sebastian
No. And you know what? I kind of get it. Like, I'm not really TV ready, you know.
- [59:26]
Luke Lafreniere
You did good by the end. You did very good by the end.
- [59:29]
Linus Sebastian
I mean, in other ways, though, like, I, like, I literally, I saw. I saw a couple people that were like, yo, Linus, you got to respect the, you know, the dress code. You know, where's your suit? And I'm like, yo, I don't even, like, own a suit that fits.
- [59:42]
Luke Lafreniere
Yeah. And.
- [59:44]
Linus Sebastian
Okay, I could. I could probably. I could probably buy one, but, like, that's never been me. That's never been my thing.
- [59:52]
Luke Lafreniere
I think it's fine. Like, the. There was a. There was a commenter that compared it to, like, animal handlers going on. On these types of live.
- [60:00]
Linus Sebastian
I would love.
- [60:01]
Luke Lafreniere
You're like tech bro guy.
- [60:02]
Linus Sebastian
I would love to be animal handler tech guy. I don't necessarily. I wouldn't necessarily want to be like, like, pigeonholed. Like, I wouldn't, like, at some point, you know, I would want to develop. And I don't. I don't know how this works, and I haven't. I don't know, but I'm just kind of talking out loud here. You know, at some point, I would love to. I don't know. Well, whatever. I'll. I'll be tech bro guy to start because I got to know my role. Right.
- [60:32]
Luke Lafreniere
You wanted to, like, co host it sometime.
- [60:33]
Linus Sebastian
Oh, heavens no.
- [60:34]
Luke Lafreniere
You don't want to be bad.
- [60:35]
Linus Sebastian
Oh, no.
- [60:37]
Dan
Yeah, you do.
- [60:38]
Luke Lafreniere
Hosting the Tonight Show. Look how cool I am when I put these glasses on. Whoa. I have a belt.
- [60:46]
Dan
I made it myself.
- [60:48]
Luke Lafreniere
I went to Home Depot.
- [60:50]
Linus Sebastian
I am going to need a way different hairstyle if I'm going to be as effortlessly cool as bad Bunny.
- [60:55]
Dan
I'll tell you, Luke could dye it again for you, dude.
- [60:59]
Luke Lafreniere
Yeah, I got you.
- [61:00]
Linus Sebastian
I totally accidentally flattened my hair too much. I looked like such a nerd.
- [61:04]
Dan
Oh, it was perfect.
- [61:05]
Luke Lafreniere
That fits the. Fits the theme.
- [61:07]
Linus Sebastian
You're a adorable. No, I'm going to have better hair next time, I promise.
- [61:12]
Luke Lafreniere
Oh, my goodness.
- [61:13]
Linus Sebastian
Perm.
- [61:14]
Dan
Yeah, I like that idea. Brick pain.
- [61:17]
Linus Sebastian
Anyway, so, yeah, it was. Honestly, it was an amazing week. Did you know that during CES we hit our all time highest reviews in a day. We're like, reviews in a day views.
- [61:33]
Luke Lafreniere
Okay.
- [61:34]
Linus Sebastian
We are, like killing it.
- [61:36]
Luke Lafreniere
Yeah. Hell yeah.
- [61:37]
Linus Sebastian
I was on flipping tv. It was okay. Basically, I am. I'm still kind of riding the high, to be honest with you.
- [61:45]
Luke Lafreniere
It has definitely been a week of all time.
- [61:47]
Linus Sebastian
Yes. One of. One of the weeks.
- [61:49]
Luke Lafreniere
It has definitely been a week.
- [61:52]
Linus Sebastian
What would I wear next time? Because, you know, it's got to be from creator warehouse. Dude, we have some stuff coming that is very cool.
- [62:03]
Luke Lafreniere
Should I even know?
- [62:04]
Linus Sebastian
Should I go cool or should I go like our professional. Like our 9 to 5 line? But what do you think?
- [62:11]
Dan
Giant logos? I don't.
- [62:13]
Luke Lafreniere
I don't think you need to start going professional on it. Well, okay. If you want to get out of the tech bro niche, then maybe you should.
- [62:21]
Linus Sebastian
I don't even think I'm like tech bro with my style. I'm just like. I'm more like, yeah, the guy who works on your cabling.
- [62:28]
Luke Lafreniere
Like, it's definitely geeky, though.
- [62:30]
Linus Sebastian
Yeah, fair enough.
- [62:31]
Luke Lafreniere
If you want to get out of the. Like, I am geek person. I come on here to be geek person.
- [62:36]
Dan
Plane wants RGB for a coat.
- [62:38]
Linus Sebastian
Okay, that is not happening.
- [62:40]
Dan
That would be cool.
- [62:41]
Luke Lafreniere
If you want to be cool, I'd be pretty sad.
- [62:43]
Dan
RGB fur coat. You could have a little RGB cane made out of memory rope. Belt, dad hat. Wouldn't have to see your terrible hair. I mean, flat hair. I mean, good hair. I didn't get the middle finger.
- [62:59]
Linus Sebastian
Their crew is so much nicer than mine.
- [63:03]
Dan
Yeah. But we do it because we love you.
- [63:08]
Luke Lafreniere
Oh, man.
- [63:09]
Linus Sebastian
Yeah.
- [63:09]
Luke Lafreniere
I don't know. I think, I think it depends on the vibe of the episode that you're doing. If you're tech handler.
- [63:15]
Linus Sebastian
Yeah.
- [63:16]
Luke Lafreniere
Then I don't know. We're geeky stuff. We're cool stuff. If you're trying to like. I think.
- [63:22]
Linus Sebastian
You know what I think I, if, if, if I get the tap again. I am. I. I think what I want to do for now is just do what they ask because realistically I know my world and if they wanted to like come do a YouTube video about technology, I'm sure that they would ask for guidance from me. And so if, if they want to do a TV segment, then I think I'll just keep doing what I'm doing, which is, hey, how do you want me to do this? You know, where's the edge in terms of humor? Where's the edge in terms of like, you know, roasting the host? Where's. Because I asked a lot of questions in the lead up, which is part of, I think why I was so nervous because I was trying to remember.
- [64:02]
Luke Lafreniere
The answers in my head.
- [64:03]
Linus Sebastian
Because. Because I just, I don't, I don't know the vibe.
- [64:06]
Luke Lafreniere
Yeah.
- [64:07]
Linus Sebastian
I don't know what the proper etiquette is. Yeah. And like I said, they were so gracious and, and so, so helpful and so accommodating.
- [64:18]
Luke Lafreniere
Okay. Yeah, let's move on though.
- [64:20]
Linus Sebastian
Yeah.
- [64:20]
Luke Lafreniere
New topic.
- [64:20]
Linus Sebastian
Yeah. What do you want to talk about?
- [64:23]
Luke Lafreniere
The Switch? Do we talk about the Switch?
- [64:24]
Linus Sebastian
Let's talk about the Switch.
- [64:26]
Luke Lafreniere
It's.
- [64:27]
Linus Sebastian
We have a full video coming tomorrow as soon as possible. So it's going to be taking our Saturday release slot. But it, it will, it will maybe come sooner depending on when the reviews are done. And like we're going to kind of step on the WAN show's normal window to sit and get views with our Switch to video if as soon as it's ready. But David put it together because of course it was David makes sense. Who, who wrote it. And he tried to make it a little bit more in depth than just. Here's a summary of what Nintendo said in the announcement because you can't really make an 8 minute video, but a 2 minute, 22 second teaser. And instead what he did was he put together a compilation of both what we know from the announcement and also what we probably know in sort of like a decreasing order of confidence.
- [65:17]
Luke Lafreniere
Interesting.
- [65:18]
Linus Sebastian
If that makes sense.
- [65:19]
Luke Lafreniere
Yeah, I like that.
- [65:19]
Linus Sebastian
And so he managed to paint what I think is a really not complete. Because we don't know for sure and we don't normally report on rumor mill stuff. But what we can see is sources that were somewhat validated by Nintendo's video. So if they say, yeah, it's gonna have this, it's gonna have this, it's gonna have this. We see all that in the teaser and they say, oh, by the way, also this, this, this and this. That adds credibility versus the sources that got a Bunch of stuff wrong compared to Nintendo's teaser, if that makes sense. First question or is there. Oh, sorry, sorry. Are we supposed to do like a summary? Okay. Do you want to read the thing? Sure. Read the thing. Sure.
- [65:58]
Luke Lafreniere
Yeah. In a very chill YouTube video, Nintendo officially announced the successor to the uber successful hybrid console. Coming out this year, their Switch 1 shipped 146 million units. It was the third best selling console of all time. Behind in first place the PlayStation 2 and in second place the DS. They showed off the new grown up aesthetic. I don't know what that means. It looked really similar to me. New Joy Cons, two USB C ports, interesting backwards compatibility for the most part and a new Mario Kart game. They also gave us 4-2-2025 as the date for the direct. Not the release date but the direct where we will get more details. We're going to have our in depth take with a breakdown of both the video and the rumors. Then announcement, blah blah blah. Everything Linus was just saying. And then there's discussion questions.
- [66:50]
Linus Sebastian
So discussion question.
- [66:51]
Luke Lafreniere
Yeah.
- [66:51]
Linus Sebastian
Will you buy one?
- [66:52]
Luke Lafreniere
Probably.
- [66:53]
Linus Sebastian
Okay, so this. I have a bone to pick with you.
- [66:58]
Luke Lafreniere
I saw that coming.
- [67:00]
Linus Sebastian
You talk a big game about thinking handheld PCs are cool. You never buy one. Nintendo releases something and you're like please daddy, take my money. Please can you take my money?
- [67:15]
Luke Lafreniere
I think with the Switch there isn't going to be a new one for like I don't know, six years.
- [67:21]
Linus Sebastian
So with the Steam, the Steam Deck has had a three year life so far. Four years. When did Steam deck come out?
- [67:28]
Luke Lafreniere
Yeah, but then there's been the ally and there's been all these other things. Blah blah, blah, blah blah blah.
- [67:34]
Linus Sebastian
What? The same. Nintendo has a long life. Oh, but you know, it's not long because Sega might make a handheld again. What are you even talking about?
- [67:41]
Luke Lafreniere
I also to a certain degree like the idea that it's different stuff.
- [67:48]
Linus Sebastian
Okay.
- [67:48]
Luke Lafreniere
I can play all the things that are going to be on one of the other handhelds on my PC.
- [67:52]
Linus Sebastian
I mean Nintendo might and I will.
- [67:53]
Luke Lafreniere
Do that most of the time.
- [67:54]
Linus Sebastian
About three and a half years for Steam deck. By the way, Nintendo might not like me acknowledge this, but you could certainly play lots of stuff on a handheld PC.
- [68:02]
Dan
I also don't do this.
- [68:04]
Linus Sebastian
I mean I actually don't. I own, I also own a Switch.
- [68:08]
Dan
And it's just a better experience.
- [68:10]
Linus Sebastian
Well, yeah, that. Okay, this is fair. I only, I only have a first gen ally though. And the battery life kind of sucks so much that I'd honestly kind of Rather play on the switch.
- [68:18]
Dan
I also have the, like, the rare switch that can do the thing, which I haven't done. But I do have the key that I made. Moving on.
- [68:31]
Luke Lafreniere
Those rare ones are those, like, the really early ones for sure. Nice. I probably have one too.
- [68:36]
Linus Sebastian
Luke's not done yet, though.
- [68:37]
Luke Lafreniere
Okay. Depends on how much it costs. I might just not buy one because the. The thing I was most excited about.
- [68:47]
Linus Sebastian
Classic Luke.
- [68:48]
Luke Lafreniere
Okay.
- [68:49]
Linus Sebastian
It costs.
- [68:51]
Dan
Wait, this costs money?
- [68:53]
Linus Sebastian
You offer latest thing. I offer zero dollars.
- [69:00]
Luke Lafreniere
I don't know. It depends. The. The. There was a. There was a bunch of things that got me excited in the video. You know, I'm happy with a bigger screen. I'm especially happy about bigger controllers. My goodness. That was my biggest problem with the original Switch. The controllers just too. I felt like I was doing this the whole time. It was too small. So happy about both of those things. But honestly, the, like, main thing that I was like, oh, good. Nice. Was when they announced backwards compatibility because I still have a bunch of Switch games I haven't played. So, like, at that point, do I just wait until I've played those and then get. Whatever. I don't know. They'll have some, like, cool version or an upgraded version or something down the line. Maybe I get that. Like, I don't. I don't know that I'll get it on release. I think. I think I have a backlog of, like, three different Switch games that I still need to play. So I don't know. I'm in no rush.
- [69:43]
Linus Sebastian
Wow. Luke being like, I have a backlog of three games. As though that's gonna impress you guys. Come on.
- [69:51]
Luke Lafreniere
I have a lot more.
- [69:54]
Linus Sebastian
What's your unplayed? What's your unplay.
- [69:56]
Luke Lafreniere
You have to just give the Switch one.
- [69:58]
Linus Sebastian
All right, all right.
- [69:59]
Luke Lafreniere
Because I've way more than that on PC. Yeah, you can't list someone says 700 games. You can't list every game you have in Steam because you're not gonna play all those. You have to be real with yourself when it comes to your backlog. Are you actually going to play this? If not, get it out.
- [70:13]
Linus Sebastian
So passionate.
- [70:13]
Luke Lafreniere
Don't lie to yourself.
- [70:15]
Linus Sebastian
Why are you so passionate?
- [70:17]
Luke Lafreniere
700 game. No, you don't. You're not. You don't have a 700 game backlog.
- [70:20]
Linus Sebastian
Prove it. Prove it now.
- [70:22]
Luke Lafreniere
That's fair. That's fair. I can't do that.
- [70:24]
Linus Sebastian
Prove it. All right.
- [70:26]
Luke Lafreniere
Are you going to play that? You're going to play that game that you got on a Humble bundle code? Literally, like 15 years ago? I don't think so.
- [70:34]
Linus Sebastian
I'm buying one, too.
- [70:35]
Luke Lafreniere
Yeah, of course.
- [70:37]
Linus Sebastian
The screen honestly looks kind of too big, though.
- [70:40]
Luke Lafreniere
Too big.
- [70:40]
Linus Sebastian
Look at my hands.
- [70:42]
Luke Lafreniere
Oh, no. Do we have the wrong. What do you think about the controllers?
- [70:46]
Linus Sebastian
I think the controllers are still gonna be okay because even I found the original Switch kind of crampy.
- [70:52]
Luke Lafreniere
Yeah.
- [70:53]
Linus Sebastian
You know what I realized, though, is I bought an original Switch when I had my bottom wisdom teeth out. It had just.
- [71:02]
Dan
No way.
- [71:03]
Luke Lafreniere
Oh, it's not gonna line up.
- [71:05]
Linus Sebastian
The timing's not quite right. I was so close. I got an original Switch and I started Breath of the Wild when I had my bottom wisdom teeth out because I knew that I was going to be stuck in bed with absolutely nowhere to go and nothing to do. So I was like, oh, I'm gonna get a Switch and I'm gonna play Breath of the Wild. I am having my top wisdom teeth out on Sunday or Monday, and Switch 2 announcement. But we were so close.
- [71:30]
Luke Lafreniere
We were very close.
- [71:31]
Linus Sebastian
We were so close to me playing Switch 2 when I got my top ones out. So Nintendo releases new game consoles on a schedule that is approximately aligned with whenever Linus needs a major tooth extraction.
- [71:45]
Luke Lafreniere
Man, if you don't get another one, they're just never gonna release another console. Did I ever send you a picture of what I did during my wisdom teeth thing? Because I got bored.
- [71:56]
Linus Sebastian
I don't know. I remember you doing too much. Yeah, because you're Luke.
- [72:02]
Luke Lafreniere
Yeah, that's a given.
- [72:03]
Linus Sebastian
God, you're dumb sometimes.
- [72:06]
Luke Lafreniere
I had Emma help me with this, actually, but she wanted me to keep it just so I wouldn't have to, like, hold it there in bed. But we had, like, a scarf, basically, that we had put around my head to keep. To keep the ice packs in place.
- [72:22]
Linus Sebastian
Looking like the old lady with the.
- [72:24]
Luke Lafreniere
Yeah, So I just. I just did, like, a better version, strapping it to my head, essentially, and then found a way that my headphones could. Could fit over it. And then instead of spending it all in bed, I just, like, sat at the computer and played games with this contraption, strapped my head, and it was awesome.
- [72:46]
Linus Sebastian
You are such a brilliant idiot.
- [72:50]
Luke Lafreniere
It was great.
- [72:51]
Linus Sebastian
Imagine having such great mental capacity and using it for that much innovation.
- [73:02]
Luke Lafreniere
Oh, yeah, absolutely.
- [73:04]
Linus Sebastian
Our other question is, what do you think this C button is for? I've seen what are some of. The camera is something that it stood for on previous Nintendo consoles. It could be connecting, like, if they have, like, a Wii U type feature where you can remotely stream it. I would love. I would Love if they bring back streaming. And there is one somewhat credible. It seems pretty credible. Actually. There's one credible rumor that would seem to suggest that they might. Because it looks like it's not a C stick, guys. No. Yeah, it's not. It looks like the ampere generation GPU that it allegedly might allegedly have is not equipped with an ampere generation media encoder. It has a newer one.
- [73:53]
Luke Lafreniere
Oh.
- [73:54]
Linus Sebastian
And so the only reason that I could think of why you would bother with that. Yeah. Is for either locally recording gameplay, which I don't know, man, that seems kind of far fetched to me. Or streaming. Yeah, streaming wirelessly. That'd be pretty cool. I'd be into that.
- [74:12]
Luke Lafreniere
Interesting.
- [74:15]
Linus Sebastian
We've got a comment from Dot Justin in the floatplane chat. Linus, get Sammy to vlog your wisdom teeth. We are so far ahead of you.
- [74:24]
Dan
We have really? Really, guys.
- [74:27]
Luke Lafreniere
Oh, you don't even know, dude. We can't even say really.
- [74:31]
Linus Sebastian
What?
- [74:32]
Luke Lafreniere
Huh?
- [74:32]
Linus Sebastian
Is there something I don't know about?
- [74:33]
Luke Lafreniere
Oh, I. No, I think. I don't know. I'm just gonna stop. I don't know how much I can say without getting in trouble from somebody from somewhere.
- [74:41]
Linus Sebastian
Oh, okay.
- [74:42]
Luke Lafreniere
I'm just gonna stop.
- [74:42]
Linus Sebastian
Well, anyway. Yeah. So Sammy is apparently doing a vlog of me getting my wisdom teeth out.
- [74:49]
Luke Lafreniere
Yeah.
- [74:49]
Linus Sebastian
And there's a major hardware release that I will not be able to be involved in. And my understanding is that Sammy will also be getting a clip of me participating in the only way that I can with my mouth all, like, swollen and disgusting.
- [75:10]
Luke Lafreniere
That's what I was avoiding saying.
- [75:11]
Linus Sebastian
Oh, yeah. No, no, no. It'll be. I won't. I won't get say any more than that. It'll be basically. It'll be really funny. Don't miss our video.
- [75:19]
Luke Lafreniere
Yeah, yeah. But we will avoid making it actually just gross.
- [75:24]
Linus Sebastian
So Sammy says in chat. Are you leaking about me? Sammy? Sammy? Yes. Yeah. Thank you. Okay, what else we got?
- [75:32]
Luke Lafreniere
TikTok sponsors.
- [75:34]
Linus Sebastian
Sorry, what does he want to do you want to do? Sponsors.
- [75:36]
Luke Lafreniere
Sponsors?
- [75:38]
Linus Sebastian
How long have we been live? Oh, my God. The card says to do sponsors. What? Okay. The show is brought to you today by Vessi. Socks and sandals on the Tonight Show. Yeah, we can all agree you don't need that kind of controversy in your life. Our sponsor, Vessi is here to make sure that you look way more stylish than me and keep your feet dry. Whether you're chasing your New Year's goals or running away from your responsibilities in the rain. Vessi has got you covered. What is this Is he doing more AI?
- [76:14]
Dan
Nope, that's just bad green screen.
- [76:16]
Linus Sebastian
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Dan
Look, I do that every week.
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Luke Lafreniere
That was a quick one. You set a record.
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Linus Sebastian
Okay. Compilation of Dan doing the merch message.
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Luke Lafreniere
Wave when, hand air speed record.
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Linus Sebastian
Yeah, I want to see a confirmation. Get out of here. Get out of here. Too fast.
- [79:38]
Luke Lafreniere
He's going to take off.
- [79:39]
Linus Sebastian
He's too fast.
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Dan
Sorry, I lost the plot. Where do you want a merch message? My hand's shaking.
- [79:48]
Linus Sebastian
You know what? Why don't I do the announcements first? Yes, that's what. For those of you who weren't tuned in at the beginning of the show, we have delayed the launch of our mod mat. Not because it's not ready, but because of stuff I said previously on the show, earlier on the show. So we've gone with our backup launch, which is this pin here. Hold on. Linus Cam. There we go. Look at that. We heard you guys like backpacks, so we made a backpack so you can put it on your backpack while you backpack.
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Luke Lafreniere
You could do that?
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Linus Sebastian
Well, yeah, you could do. I mean, technically you could put it on anything. It was designed by the one and only Sarah Butt. And it can be yours for the low, low price, not including the Wan Cork board here of $249.99. As part of our generous offer, we are also including. Oh, an LTT backpack with your purchase of the pin.
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Luke Lafreniere
That makes sense.
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Linus Sebastian
Get it now at lmg gg slash backpack pin. And just in case that went over anyone else's head, not just Luke. It's. It's just. It's A free exclusive PIN with purchase of an OG backpack while supplies last.
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Luke Lafreniere
Oh.
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Linus Sebastian
Oh, finally. Our retro monitor pet caves are finally back. Our first stock. I forget how many was in our first order. I want to say like 400 units or something. I don't know. It was gone in like a day.
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Dan
Oh, it was more than that. It was like four grand more.
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Linus Sebastian
More what? Units?
- [81:14]
Dan
Yeah, it was a lot.
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Linus Sebastian
No.
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Luke Lafreniere
Yeah, no, I thought we went pretty low.
- [81:18]
Dan
Oh, maybe it was the second one.
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Linus Sebastian
No, I think we went conservative. Anyway, they sold out 500. Apparently they sold okay stupid fast. And then we went to reorder them. And the top of production sample that we got back from the factory was unrecognizable. It looked nothing like the first order. And that is why you do a top of production sample before you do the mass production. So we have new ones in that look great. They are up to the standards of quality from the original one, which my cats absolutely love.
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Dan
Mine too.
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Linus Sebastian
It's got the same awesome pillow inside that has either a fuzzy side if you prefer softness, or an easier to clean, sleeker side if you prefer it being easier to clean. And we hedged. We hedged. And for the sides, we went with the easier to clean material that goes inside. It has little dudes on the bottom to make it so it doesn't slip around as easily. I mean, realistically, if your pet dives into it, it's still going to move or whatever. And it's designed to look like a retro CRT monitor. It's so cute. It's available on the store.
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Luke Lafreniere
Minor, minor potential problem with the backpack pin. We have pin collectors that try to get all the pins that come up on the store. A lot of those pin collectors already own the backpack.
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Linus Sebastian
Oh, do they have any friends who need a backpack? Well, I. I don't know how to deal with that. You may be. Maybe we could hold some in. Tell you what, I have no idea.
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Luke Lafreniere
Maybe just something to think about.
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Linus Sebastian
I offer we hold a handful of them in reserve for the next pin drop. You offer acceptance of that? Is that acceptable? Could we do that?
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Luke Lafreniere
I. I'll have to wait for.
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Linus Sebastian
Okay.
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Luke Lafreniere
For the pin people to.
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Linus Sebastian
Yeah, Dan, can you maybe. Can you maybe throw that a message at me like Nick or something like that? Could we maybe throw that at Nick? Maybe we hold hold back like some and then we make them go to RD for that. I don't know if we can because when I announced it, I said exclusive. So if I. If I. If that's the commitment, then that's the commitment. I don't know, guys. I, I gotta let, I gotta let that.
- [83:28]
Luke Lafreniere
Yeah, maybe, maybe just somebody consider it.
- [83:30]
Linus Sebastian
I gotta let that team do their stuff.
- [83:32]
Luke Lafreniere
I know the, the pin collectors can get pretty serious about pin.
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Linus Sebastian
I know. I gotta, I gotta let that team do their strat car about their pins. Okay. Sheesh. Jeez. Okay, cool.
- [83:45]
Luke Lafreniere
Let's merch massage.
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Linus Sebastian
One person had an idea that if someone has a backpack, they could send proof of purchase, and then we could make the pin available for purchase independently. The problem is that I guarantee you we would sell out all of the pins to the people who already bought backpacks. And I know the idea behind this was that it's like an exclusive, exclusive pin if you buy a backpack. Let me let the, let's pitch them the ideas and let's let the team make their decision. Okay. I, I, I can't involve myself in every decision anymore, and I can't just, like, step on their toes.
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Luke Lafreniere
I wasn't trying to get a solution immediately. Just. Okay, maybe somebody cool. Yeah.
- [84:21]
Linus Sebastian
Nurdle says. What about Just for me?
- [84:25]
Luke Lafreniere
It says every pin collector.
- [84:27]
Linus Sebastian
What do you want to talk about?
- [84:28]
Luke Lafreniere
A merch message.
- [84:32]
Linus Sebastian
Right? A curated merge message.
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Dan
Hey, they're a little strange tonight. Let's see. What's your favorite reptile? Oh.
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Linus Sebastian
Frog. Wait for it. No.
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Luke Lafreniere
Is that a reptile?
- [84:50]
Linus Sebastian
No, it's an amphibian.
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Dan
Lizard.
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Linus Sebastian
I'm just, I'm waiting for Reddit to correct me. Let me think. No, not dinosaur. They're birds. We think. We're not sure. Mark Zuckerberg.
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Luke Lafreniere
He isn't anymore. He got the, he got the 2.0 update.
- [85:14]
Linus Sebastian
That's true. This is true.
- [85:16]
Dan
He hired a brand consultant finally.
- [85:18]
Luke Lafreniere
Yeah, and they gave him.
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Linus Sebastian
I should ask who is. And get, get his contact next time I appear on tonight's show if I get a chance. Why would Mark be your favorite? Because it's a funny answer. Sometimes we give you guys a serious answer. Sometimes we just think of the most outlandish thing we can say and blurt it out. Yeah, and I'll let you guys sort out which one is which.
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Luke Lafreniere
I don't know. I'm looking into what. I googled reptiles, and one of the things that came up with was birds.
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Linus Sebastian
You googled reptiles?
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Luke Lafreniere
Yeah, I wanted to see a bunch of different examples.
- [85:52]
Linus Sebastian
Google reptiles. Snake, iguana.
- [85:54]
Luke Lafreniere
I know some of them, but I was like, what are, what are some, like, random off the wall ones that I wouldn't necessarily think of?
- [85:59]
Linus Sebastian
I gotta say, I'm not really a reptile guy.
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Luke Lafreniere
This is why I googled it.
- [86:03]
Linus Sebastian
Yeah, I.
- [86:04]
Luke Lafreniere
Again, I know some examples.
- [86:06]
Linus Sebastian
Like, I think. I think they're cool, which is cool. I had an iguana when I was a kid. Like, we just ended up with one by accident. Like someone was rehoming one, because that's what tends to happen with them. And they don't. They don't, like, they don't have like a mammal or like an avian brain. Like, they're like the social. They don't have. They don't have an instinct to socialize with humans. They just. I mean, yeah, they're cold blooded. You know, they're. They're not really very interactive from my experience. Although, I mean, you hear snake owners that are super happy. They love. They love their snakes and stuff.
- [86:42]
Luke Lafreniere
Mr. Mr. Dank pots.
- [86:44]
Dan
Yeah.
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Linus Sebastian
All right. Mike D78LUS isn't really a reptile guy. Does that mean he has a reptile dysfunction? Hit the thing.
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Dan
Can I ding other people?
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Linus Sebastian
I think you can. I think when it's that good, you can ding the other. You can ding the thing. You got to do it.
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Dan
All right, Very good, Very good, very good.
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Luke Lafreniere
I'll. I'll go with sea turtles.
- [87:08]
Dan
Skink.
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Linus Sebastian
Okay. Okay. That's a pretty. That's a pretty uncontroversial take. Yeah, I'm gonna go with.
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Luke Lafreniere
Especially the, the ones from Finding Nemo.
- [87:21]
Linus Sebastian
So the ones that are like surfer dudes.
- [87:23]
Dan
Yeah, man, let's go.
- [87:25]
Linus Sebastian
Fine.
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Dan
All right.
- [87:26]
Linus Sebastian
I'm gonna go with red eared slider. I'm gonna go with a much smaller turtle.
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Luke Lafreniere
Cool. Okay.
- [87:33]
Linus Sebastian
Yeah, I actually also had a few turtles when I was a kid.
- [87:37]
Luke Lafreniere
Looking back, man, what didn't you have?
- [87:39]
Linus Sebastian
We went through a lot of pets.
- [87:42]
Luke Lafreniere
I've heard a lot of stories of pets. I'd never heard of that one.
- [87:46]
Linus Sebastian
I don't know what happened to them. Like, I don't remember. No, I just don't remember. Like, you don't eat them. Like, it's. This was at my dad's house when I was younger. This wasn't like on the farm where I had a pet goat and was tricked into eating it. No, that was a completely different thing.
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Dan
You don't eat the good one.
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Linus Sebastian
Yeah, so we had. We had Shelly. And I want to say like, Igor or something, because I don't know, he had like a weird Shelly the turtle. Anyway, I think there were either two or three. And what I liked about them was we think of turtles as slow or at least tortoises anyway.
- [88:22]
Luke Lafreniere
Oh, yeah, dude. They can.
- [88:24]
Linus Sebastian
They freaking rip. You ever seen a Goldfish, like, swim kind of fast. You ever seen a turtle reach out, bite down on it, and then have the tail and head fall down on both sides of the mouth? No, I have.
- [88:39]
Luke Lafreniere
Wow.
- [88:40]
Linus Sebastian
Yeah, they go, dude, they go. They freaking go.
- [88:42]
Luke Lafreniere
The goldfish's name?
- [88:44]
Linus Sebastian
No, no, they were feeder fish.
- [88:45]
Luke Lafreniere
Goldie.
- [88:46]
Linus Sebastian
No, no, they're feeder fish. You don't. You don't name a feeder fish. What's your problem? What's wrong with you?
- [88:54]
Luke Lafreniere
Terrible. Someone probably does it. Next one.
- [88:59]
Dan
Sure. Hey, Linus. I'm new to PC building and I instantly fell in love with it, but I want to actually understand how the parts work and I'm struggling to find good sources. Any recommendations for learning?
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Linus Sebastian
Oh, ballsack. What's that? What's that channel that has those really cool animated.
- [89:17]
Dan
Luke and I were talking about that the other week.
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Luke Lafreniere
I don't remember.
- [89:20]
Dan
I'm looking.
- [89:20]
Luke Lafreniere
It's pretty cool, though.
- [89:22]
Linus Sebastian
Branch Education. That's the one. Yeah. Go check out Branch Education. Really, really good. But. But still accessible. Pretty long form videos on the, like.
- [89:35]
Luke Lafreniere
Cool.
- [89:35]
Linus Sebastian
On the. On the. How does it actually work? Because we'll give you, like, very high level what you need to know in order to select the right thing for your build. They get into, like. No, really, like, like, how does. How does it.
- [89:47]
Dan
How do they bin a 3090? It's great.
- [89:51]
Linus Sebastian
Very cool. Yeah, go check out. Go check out Branch Education. Pretty cool channel, honestly.
- [89:56]
Luke Lafreniere
Just all their stuff is sick.
- [89:57]
Linus Sebastian
Yeah, really cool.
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Dan
Question for Linus. Did anyone behind the scenes try to talk you out of wearing socks and sandals on network television?
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Linus Sebastian
On the contrary. I was 50. 50. I would have had to replace my. So the only two pairs of footwork. Not footwork, sorry, Badminton on the brain. The only two pairs of footwear that I own, other than my badminton shoes and my, like, rain boots and my hiking boots, you know, like, like utility shoes. I have a pair of dress shoes, but they're, like, super basic. Are my vessis. So I have my sandals and I have my vessis. Those are the only two, like, daily driver footwears that I have. But my vessis are scuffed.
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Luke Lafreniere
You've had them for a long time.
- [90:40]
Linus Sebastian
Yep, yep.
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Dan
So are those the ones you wore to Tiffany's?
- [90:44]
Linus Sebastian
This is primer. Probably. Yes. Yes, I wore these to Tiffany. All right.
- [90:49]
Dan
Yeah, we didn't get to see them when you were talking about that.
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Linus Sebastian
That's paint and. Oh, no, that's primer. This is from Priming James's, like, like, writing lead. James's kitchen cabinets. We Were he. He asked very nicely to use my new fancy sprayer and my spray booth, and then I ended up doing it. I didn't. Well, I didn't. No, no, no, no, no, no. He did. He did most of it after, like, the first day, but I was like. I, like, showed him how it works. And I was like, see you later. He's like, okay, okay. I guess I'm helping get things going.
- [91:23]
Luke Lafreniere
But that's what.
- [91:23]
Linus Sebastian
You know what? You know what? It was actually fun because people don't ask me. People never ask me to, like, help them move or, like, do guy stuff together. Like when they have, you know, a project that needs to be done, even you don't do it.
- [91:39]
Luke Lafreniere
I don't. You need much.
- [91:40]
Linus Sebastian
Okay. That's true. Anyway. Oh, man, these things. These things are terrible. Look at the bottom. I am fairly certain that it used to say vessi somewhere on the bottom.
- [91:49]
Luke Lafreniere
I can't even imagine where. I don't see it at all.
- [91:54]
Linus Sebastian
Oh, here it is.
- [91:56]
Luke Lafreniere
Oh, wow. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You can tell because the triangles aren't there. That makes sense.
- [92:00]
Linus Sebastian
That used to say. That used to say vessi.
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Luke Lafreniere
It just looked particularly more worn than the rest.
- [92:05]
Linus Sebastian
Yeah, you can really see. You can really see my. I'm sure. I'm sure. Oh, man. Every time I get, like. I get medical analysis of, like, anything that I talk, I'm sure that the foot experts out there are sending me. Sending me DMS on the forum right now.
- [92:20]
Luke Lafreniere
You should get some. Well, you probably don't actually have this problem that much because of your. Your sandal usage, but I've been trying to look into, like, wide toe box shoes anyways. That's a whole.
- [92:29]
Linus Sebastian
Anyway, I was on the fence. I was 50. 50. I was like, there's no way I can wear these on the show. I would. I don't have time to get new ones, so I'd have to just, like, go. Go get something.
- [92:38]
Luke Lafreniere
I don't want to do that to Vessi, to be honest.
- [92:40]
Linus Sebastian
No. Yeah, right.
- [92:41]
Luke Lafreniere
Yeah. It's not really fair.
- [92:43]
Linus Sebastian
And then I was like. But realistically, like, I don't know. It's kind of part of the shtick. It's kind of part of the character to do the socks and sandals thing, because I unironically do really like that style of footwear. Well, I don't like the style. What I like is the comfort. You know, they're. They're comfortable, they're warm enough, but super breathable. Nothing beats the breathability of a completely open shoe. And then it was actually Nick Light, the Creed Warehouse. Nick, who was like, if you don't do it, I'll riot. Okay.
- [93:13]
Luke Lafreniere
All right, let's go, Nick.
- [93:14]
Linus Sebastian
And then. And then, obviously I wanted to put on the prototype socks so that they're really good. That I don't know if they're done done, but they're.
- [93:21]
Luke Lafreniere
We're getting there.
- [93:23]
Linus Sebastian
They aren't the same as my darn toughs, but what they are is also extremely good in slightly different ways.
- [93:31]
Luke Lafreniere
Sure.
- [93:31]
Linus Sebastian
And I'm pretty excited.
- [93:34]
Luke Lafreniere
Are you going with the. Like, it has to not be worse?
- [93:37]
Linus Sebastian
Yeah, I don't expect to beat them. Darn tough makes outstanding socks. And I would never say a negative thing about the quality of their product, period. Regardless of whether we're a competitor or whatever. And right now we're not, but we'd like to be. But that. That doesn't change the fact that they make a darn good sock and tough. Do it. It applies to him, too.
- [94:01]
Luke Lafreniere
Give me Dan.
- [94:03]
Linus Sebastian
Holy schnikes. Are there ever a lot of merch messages?
- [94:06]
Luke Lafreniere
I think we're doing. I think we're doing another one, too.
- [94:07]
Linus Sebastian
What the heck are you people buying?
- [94:09]
Luke Lafreniere
Are they all pins?
- [94:10]
Dan
There are lots of pins.
- [94:11]
Linus Sebastian
Oh, all right. That makes sense.
- [94:13]
Dan
I want another one.
- [94:15]
Luke Lafreniere
You like pins.
- [94:16]
Linus Sebastian
I can see that. People also like precision screwdrivers and bit cases and Northern Lights desk pads. Wow. Actually, there's a lot of variety today. Interesting. Oh, Pet caves. Yeah, Pet caves. Get them. Pet caves. Couch potato hoodies. Okay. Yeah. I'm just curious.
- [94:30]
Luke Lafreniere
All right.
- [94:30]
Dan
Okay.
- [94:30]
Linus Sebastian
Dan, hit me.
- [94:31]
Dan
Hey, lld, last week you mentioned we're moving away from common GPU framework that all vendors could use. Would an open standard that could make use of Nvidia Tensor and AMD intel cores be possible?
- [94:43]
Linus Sebastian
Well, I think, like we've seen in the past, we're going to start with, like we saw with G Sync, for instance. We're going to start with vendor proprietary implementations, and then over time, we're going to watch the rest of the industry play catch up. And at such point as they play catch up well enough, the proprietary standard will become meaningless and go away. That is kind of our best case scenario.
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Luke Lafreniere
It's like, it's like with a lot of this stuff, right? Like AI. Right now, everybody's talking about AI all the time to the point where it gets incredibly exhausting and annoying. Eventually that will just be part of the product. Like, I don't think every single thing is called smart anymore, because it's like, just kind of assumed.
- [95:25]
Linus Sebastian
Okay, I did A retake on a video recently because I referred to my phone as a smartphone and I was like, what am I talking about?
- [95:35]
Luke Lafreniere
Yeah.
- [95:35]
Linus Sebastian
What is a. Not smartphone. Sorry, let's redo the clip. I didn't even think about it until that very moment, which was, I think in the last week or two. So it's funny that we're talking about this so close to it.
- [95:48]
Luke Lafreniere
That is pretty interesting.
- [95:48]
Linus Sebastian
Yeah. You don't say smart tv.
- [95:50]
Luke Lafreniere
Yeah.
- [95:50]
Linus Sebastian
You don't say smartphone.
- [95:51]
Luke Lafreniere
Well, and I've been, I've been seeing, you know, you see ads, especially coming off of ces, you see all these things that are claiming, like, now with AI features, and it's like, this will be really cool when that goes away and it, like, will, because eventually that's not going to be exciting.
- [96:05]
Linus Sebastian
Yeah.
- [96:06]
Luke Lafreniere
It's not going to be a selling point because you're all going to have the same baseline level of that junk and then you're going to have to find something else to be the selling point and everyone will move on.
- [96:15]
Linus Sebastian
You know what I figured out, though, is in a way, I actually, I think I get it a bit more.
- [96:23]
Luke Lafreniere
Get what?
- [96:24]
Linus Sebastian
The inclusion of that AI. Yeah, it's got AI. It's got AI.
- [96:28]
Luke Lafreniere
It's with AI now it makes sense.
- [96:29]
Linus Sebastian
Well, even, even. Even if the AI doesn't really do that much, because you know, what it does is it tells you at a glance that this is the new one. If everyone is calling their latest product this AI, then if you throw AI on your latest model name, you don't have to rely on everyday average consumer to know if the ThinkPad X2695 Mark 4 is the latest thing. You just need to know. Oh, it's. It's the new AI one. That's all. That's all you need to know. And I guess from just like a completely normie branding standpoint, I get it.
- [97:10]
Luke Lafreniere
That's rough.
- [97:11]
Linus Sebastian
Even if it irritates me, the like, tell me how many stream processes are in it and how much cash it has. Guy doesn't really care about that.
- [97:20]
Luke Lafreniere
The worst version of that was when everything was called one.
- [97:24]
Linus Sebastian
That's not over.
- [97:26]
Dan
I didn't like X. X pissed me off because a lot of people skipped nine to go to X. Yeah. Like, oh, and then they expect you to say 10.
- [97:37]
Luke Lafreniere
Yeah.
- [97:37]
Dan
I refuse.
- [97:38]
Linus Sebastian
One is still a thing, though. Like, Dan, what's your phone called?
- [97:42]
Dan
Mine is the 15 and they just know it's the 1V because the second part of the numbers in the Roman numerals, but they Also have the five. So it's the five. Five and the five's the bad one.
- [97:55]
Linus Sebastian
Sony, man, get it together.
- [97:56]
Dan
What are they doing?
- [97:57]
Linus Sebastian
Get it together. Sony, with your Xperia phones. We got Gressy 99 asking Badminton hall update. When Actually, big news.
- [98:10]
Luke Lafreniere
Oh.
- [98:11]
Linus Sebastian
The replacement floors arrived on the 16th. So yesterday. Yesterday.
- [98:16]
Luke Lafreniere
ETA on them being in then?
- [98:17]
Linus Sebastian
I don't know, but I would like to. I would.
- [98:21]
Dan
Is it March?
- [98:22]
Linus Sebastian
I would like to give a shout out. Why? What's happening in March?
- [98:26]
Dan
I think I've called this for like a year and a half.
- [98:29]
Luke Lafreniere
Dad's been saying it's gonna be March this year.
- [98:31]
Linus Sebastian
Bastard.
- [98:32]
Luke Lafreniere
For like at least a year.
- [98:35]
Dan
I think when we started last year in January.
- [98:38]
Linus Sebastian
I would like to call out. Shout out. I would like to shout out. Caliber Sports Systems. These guys are the installer for our floor. We obviously had the quality issue with the initial product.
- [98:51]
Luke Lafreniere
Yeah.
- [98:51]
Linus Sebastian
But I have had so many contractors make that my problem over the years. And these guys, to their credit, have not breathed a word about any kind of additional labor charge, in spite of the enormous amount of extra work that it's going to be to uninstall one of their things and then reinstall some other product that we ordered separately. They gave me a very fair credit for the material that we weren't using. And they're not done yet. But they have acted in such good faith that I just wanted to. I just wanted to shout them out. As one of the first, like, contractor companies that I have encountered here in the lower mainland that does not seem to. Around. So, yeah. Thanks, guys. Shout out. Appreciate you. They've been so communicative and about, like, getting on site and coordinating with the delivery of the. Of the new flooring material and everything. So we're really excited to be open. Open. We. We launched our memberships on the 14th, so. Memberships are active. We have. I don't know if I should. We have a lot of members immediately, which is pretty exciting. We did a founding membership. A founding membership deal at a discount and just to get some momentum. And I'm. I'm very excited about it. It's going to be awesome. All right. Oh, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. Rio Ria fellow says, why is the backpack enamel pin, $250?
- [100:22]
Luke Lafreniere
Oh, no.
- [100:22]
Linus Sebastian
They figured it out. They figured it out.
- [100:25]
Dan
Linus comes with.
- [100:26]
Linus Sebastian
No, better comes with a backpack. Okay. What are we supposed to be doing right now?
- [100:32]
Dan
You should probably do the rest of your topics.
- [100:34]
Linus Sebastian
Oh, topics. Yes.
- [100:35]
Dan
And then we'll do merch messages. Okay.
- [100:36]
Linus Sebastian
So I have a Bambu Labs printer. Other than mistakes that I have made that have made it not work as well, it has been fairly reliable. So basically what I'm trying to say is I've spent a lot of time fixing it, but it's mostly on me. I have my setup, like, locked in right now, and my kids love it, especially my eldest daughter. She is constantly on the bamboo printer. Her latest thing is printing out things to paint.
- [101:04]
Luke Lafreniere
Oh, that's cool.
- [101:05]
Linus Sebastian
Yeah, super cool.
- [101:07]
Luke Lafreniere
That's actually. I don't think I've seen a ton of examples.
- [101:09]
Dan
That's such a good idea.
- [101:11]
Luke Lafreniere
Ton of sense.
- [101:11]
Linus Sebastian
Yes, it's. Thanks. So she'll. She'll print out things that she'll. So she. She printed out a bunch of flexi cats and painted them like all of our cats.
- [101:18]
Luke Lafreniere
Oh, that.
- [101:19]
Linus Sebastian
With Yvonne and her sister.
- [101:21]
Luke Lafreniere
So they're cute as heck.
- [101:23]
Linus Sebastian
Some. Anyway, I'm losing it. Anyway, she's having a blast with it.
- [101:29]
Luke Lafreniere
Oh, my God. Can she paint our birds?
- [101:32]
Linus Sebastian
I don't see why not. Yeah, sure.
- [101:33]
Luke Lafreniere
Oh, my God.
- [101:34]
Linus Sebastian
Yeah. Mess. Message my son. You. You have him on. On social. Well, not now, but like, I just mean whenever.
- [101:39]
Luke Lafreniere
Just his brain is a sieve. I will forget this.
- [101:42]
Linus Sebastian
I'm sending.
- [101:42]
Dan
I'm sending you a scheduled message.
- [101:45]
Luke Lafreniere
Oh, thanks, Dan.
- [101:46]
Linus Sebastian
So, Bamboo. Bamboo. This is not cool. I just want to shout out Nick Johnson in the Bambu Lab subreddit who put together what I think is such a succinct, thorough, respectful post about what a big deal it is that Bambu Labs is removing third party printer access. If.
- [102:12]
Dan
What's up?
- [102:12]
Luke Lafreniere
What does that mean?
- [102:13]
Linus Sebastian
Basically what it means is that you will not have the ability to use third party software such as orcaslicer or Panda Touch. It will not be able to connect directly to your printer.
- [102:23]
Luke Lafreniere
That's icky.
- [102:24]
Linus Sebastian
This is. Well, it's icky. And it's also, according to Bamboo Labs, to help with authentication on the printer to avoid any kind of remote access by a malicious third party to the camera, for instance, or to print to your printer. This seems like they could have implemented it better if they weren't rushing and in such a way that it doesn't break. Break this compatibility. Um, but what. What Nick Johnson encourages people to do, and this is why I like his post so much, is he doesn't just whine. I can't believe I'm on Reddit right now. What you can do about it? Don't update your printer's firmware. They will likely be tracking installation counts. Make it clear you won't run this firmware. Contact Bambu Labs, politely express your concerns using their support portal and he actually provides some templates for you to copy paste what your concerns are. Vote with your wallet, stop buying Bamboo Labs consumables and consider alternatives until they reverse course. Withdraw your support on Maker World and spread the word. So this is so professional. Yeah.
- [103:35]
Luke Lafreniere
Person working communication.
- [103:37]
Linus Sebastian
I don't know. But, but shout out. And I agree. I will not be updating my printer because I, I love having convenient, unauthenticated remote access and it sits in a room where I quite frankly couldn't care less if somebody's looking at the camera of what I'm printing. Um, so that's, that's my, that's my stance on it. I don't believe they can force an update. I just hope my kids don't accidentally do it. I'll have to off to remind them of that. That's how I ended up with Windows 11 on my VRPC and like it broke a bunch of driver stuff and I'm kids like, thank you Microsoft for your update. Freaking dark patterns. Anyway, so yeah, I wanted to get that one out there. That was just a quick random mention. What else we got today? Ooh, do you want to get into like a main topic? Oh my goodness, we have so many topics left. Luke.
- [104:22]
Luke Lafreniere
Tick tock.
- [104:22]
Linus Sebastian
What are we going to do?
- [104:23]
Dan
Tick tock.
- [104:24]
Linus Sebastian
Yeah, sure.
- [104:25]
Luke Lafreniere
Goodbye. TikTok. Today, January 17th, the Supreme Court unanimously upheld the federal ban of TikTok starting Sunday the 19th. It's coming very soon since it failed to be sold to an American based company. The origin of the ban was concerns over security risks due to its ties to China. While. Sorry. With White House Press Secretary Karine Jean Pierre saying TikTok should remain available to Americans, but simply under American ownership or other ownership that addresses the national security concerns identified by Congress in developing this law. President elect Donald Trump has expressed interest in looking into this and possibly reverting the ban once he takes office. The app also will not be deleted from phone. Similar to. This is a side note, but similar to Flappy Bird back in the day.
- [105:17]
Linus Sebastian
Yeah.
- [105:18]
Luke Lafreniere
Remember if you had a phone that had Flappy Bird.
- [105:19]
Linus Sebastian
Yeah. It was like worth more money on ebay. Yeah. You could sell thing like an old like ipod or whatever. You could.
- [105:24]
Luke Lafreniere
Yeah. Where we might literally have that again, which is kind of wild, but we'll see. So, yeah, it won't be deleted from phones, but it will be removed from app stores. Receive no more Updates and the US based servers and connections will be. Oh whoa. The US based servers and connections will be disconnected on January 19th. Okay, interesting. I don't know how much that's going to matter. It's probably fine. Canadian data server is going to go hard.
- [105:56]
Linus Sebastian
Brrr.
- [105:57]
Luke Lafreniere
Yeah. Anyways, as a result, in the last week, Zhao Hongshu RedNote, aka RedNote, skyrocketed to number one on the US App Store as TikTok users migrated over in preparation for the TikTok ban.
- [106:13]
Linus Sebastian
So I want to jump in with a little insert here. I was talking to Andy from our team who's been on RedNote for a while.
- [106:20]
Luke Lafreniere
Oh, cool.
- [106:20]
Linus Sebastian
And he absolutely loves it. He showed me a bunch of really cool features. Um, the, the browse functionality is honestly really cool. You can like browse by, by interests and stuff like that. Up at the top level, the ability to rep. You can post more than just videos. Like you can post videos, but you can live stream, you can post text along with your video, you can post pictures. Like you can kind of post anything on it. And the discussion, the discussion functionality under the posts is really rich. You can interact with other people's posts. You can post pictures. Oh wow.
- [106:58]
Luke Lafreniere
In the, in the discussion.
- [106:59]
Linus Sebastian
Yeah. And there's thread, like thread based discussions. It's, it's, it looks very interactive. If only the end user license agreement didn't. Basically wasn't much worse than TikTok. I was reading through a summary of it and it's like, basically you just yield everything to the, to the Chinese Communist Party. Like, okay, sure. Excuse me, Communist Party of China. Sorry, President Xi, Sorry.
- [107:31]
Luke Lafreniere
Anyway, I saw some, some, some joke about the North American users ignoring the ToS for, for red Note, just like, oh, well, anyways, okay, let's see. Yeah. As TikTok users migrated over in preparation for the TikTok ban, with some people even making a joke about moving to an even more Chinese app, saying things like, I signed up specifically so the CCP can get their data.
- [108:02]
Linus Sebastian
Elijah says my favorite comment on this so far was realistically, TikTok hasn't had my sin phone number, address, email, bank details or insurance details leak, whereas every American app has. So as far as I'm concerned, the CCP can have it.
- [108:17]
Luke Lafreniere
At least they're taking better care of it.
- [108:19]
Linus Sebastian
That's funny. But actually I don't support that.
- [108:24]
Luke Lafreniere
No, it is.
- [108:25]
Linus Sebastian
We are making funny though.
- [108:26]
Luke Lafreniere
We're making hehehahas. Unfortunately, this migration has bothered some of the existing user base. Okay, I'm going to add some editorialization to this in a second, but unfortunately I'm going to Say what it says. Unfortunately, the migration has bothered some of the existing user base with RedNote even releasing an update to allow filtering of IPs, which could block off Chinese Americans from trying to connect back home with family or friends. I have also heard that it's actually been super wholesome as well. There's been a lot of like friendly bonding over it, I'm sure. I'm 100% certain some people are bond bothered. They just. This community of people that used an app just got plowed over by this massive wave of people diving and be like, what is this? What's happening here? What's going on? And that's gonna be fun for some people. It's not gonna be fun for other people. But there was like. There was Americans helping Chinese people with their English homework. There was like all this like, just asking questions back and forth, like really interesting conversation.
- [109:21]
Linus Sebastian
Don't ask me how I know. But orphaned communities can. Can often be very warmly received by the users of the. Of the orphanage of the absorbing community.
- [109:34]
Luke Lafreniere
Yeah.
- [109:35]
Linus Sebastian
Like for instance, I have heard tell that private trackers that get shut down will sometimes be adopted by other private tracker communities. I don't know, it's. It's like a weird Linux thing that I don't really know anything.
- [109:52]
Luke Lafreniere
Sharing ISOs and.
- [109:53]
Linus Sebastian
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- [109:55]
Luke Lafreniere
Anyways, American social media apps want users though, with Substack even offering a $25,000 TikTok Liberation Prize to users who post the best TikTok to inspire people to join Substack. Sure, I don't think that's going to happen, bruh. But anyways, nice try.
- [110:18]
Linus Sebastian
There's a lot of discussion questions here, but realistically, I don't think we're going to get into. Does banning a communication app go against the whole point of the First Amendment? We'll let the Americans sort that out. Good luck, America.
- [110:28]
Luke Lafreniere
Not even our country. So have fun.
- [110:30]
Linus Sebastian
See you later.
- [110:30]
Luke Lafreniere
We have enough problems of our own right now.
- [110:35]
Linus Sebastian
Should I run? Should I run for Prime Minister?
- [110:38]
Luke Lafreniere
Well, I just unplugged myself, but yeah, do it, do it, do it. Then you can sign Linus Town into law.
- [110:46]
Linus Sebastian
No, Canada will just become Linus Town.
- [110:48]
Luke Lafreniere
Our currency isn't going to be worth anything anyways pretty soon, so you can just. Linus Coin can just take over the cad.
- [110:54]
Linus Sebastian
Okay.
- [110:54]
Dan
The great white tips.
- [110:56]
Linus Sebastian
Okay, hear me out.
- [110:57]
Dan
Great White North.
- [111:00]
Linus Sebastian
If. If the US Proposal for absorbing us. Oh God, hold on, hold on. If the. Just hold on. Listen to me. If the US Proposal for absorbing us. Because realistically, I mean, trade deal mode I mean, most of the states seem to operate like their own bloody countries anyway.
- [111:19]
Luke Lafreniere
Yeah. Is that the point?
- [111:20]
Linus Sebastian
So if we were. If we were formally all individual states. Okay, so we're the 51st, 52nd, 53rd, etc. If we were all individual states. Hold on, hold on, hold on. With our own state constitutions, are they actually numbered?
- [111:34]
Luke Lafreniere
Started.
- [111:34]
Linus Sebastian
No, I don't think so. Is there an order? Is there an official order? I don't know. I'm not. I'm not an American geography major. Okay, okay, hold on. Hear me out, hear me out. So if we were all individual states with our own state constitutions like they have. Okay, okay. Yeah. And the deal was, hey, if you don't do a rebellion very much, we will trade your Canadian dollars one to one for US Dollars as part of making you formally American. Rate your warmth about the idea on a scale of 1 to 10.
- [112:14]
Luke Lafreniere
For myself, like, I'm fine, so zero. That would probably be really good for a lot of people, though. The, like genuinely. Canada's economy is in the disgusting dumps. Like it's.
- [112:27]
Linus Sebastian
And it's really bad. And basically every indicator we have is that it's probably going to get worse.
- [112:32]
Luke Lafreniere
Before it gets better for quite a few years.
- [112:35]
Linus Sebastian
And we have no indication of what could be coming in the future that will make it better.
- [112:39]
Luke Lafreniere
None. Like, it's horrible.
- [112:42]
Linus Sebastian
We're propped up by real estate in much the same way that the Chinese economy was for a long time.
- [112:48]
Luke Lafreniere
And we just have nothing else going for it, though. Yeah, like they, they did.
- [112:55]
Linus Sebastian
Yeah.
- [112:55]
Luke Lafreniere
They were the world's shopping mall. Right. Everyone buys things from China. Yeah, I don't. I'm not gonna go into all that, but it would, it would honestly save, like, a lot of people. I don't know. I've had this same thought, but kind of different. Like, have you. Have you seen. He's kind of postured to everything that's near him right now, so that he's looking at Greenland, Canada, Mexico. Right. Just. I don't know if I just spin around in a circle. What do my arms hit? And Cuba. Have you looked at.
- [113:25]
Linus Sebastian
No, not us again. Leave us alone, please.
- [113:28]
Luke Lafreniere
We're finally left out, Pop. You.
- [113:32]
Linus Sebastian
I mean, that's sort of their whole issue.
- [113:34]
Luke Lafreniere
Green Greenland. Why can't I type? Yeah. So I looked this up.
- [113:41]
Linus Sebastian
What is this? Google Trends. Oh, population of Greenland. Greenland is growing like crazy. Oh, it's flat.
- [113:47]
Luke Lafreniere
No, it's really flat.
- [113:48]
Linus Sebastian
Oh, no, it's super flat. Sorry, I didn't realize the timescale I was looking at there's also. I thought I was looking at like the last couple years. Years. Wait, there's only 56,000 people in Greenland?
- [113:56]
Luke Lafreniere
The whole place. So.
- [113:58]
Linus Sebastian
Okay. It's not as big as it looks on your flat map, though. That is something to consider.
- [114:02]
Luke Lafreniere
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Canada also isn't either. But Greenland gets that, like, real hard when you. When you scale Greenland down. It. Yeah, it's big, but it's not as big as.
- [114:11]
Linus Sebastian
It's not as big as you think.
- [114:12]
Luke Lafreniere
But still 56,000 people. He. He could. If it came. I don't think it would really.
- [114:19]
Linus Sebastian
Yeah.
- [114:20]
Luke Lafreniere
Because it's Denmark. Right. But if it came down to a vote of people in Greenland, not in Denmark, you could definitely just like, hard buy everyone out. There's only 56,000 of them. You could, like. How much would it cost to make all of the millionaires?
- [114:39]
Linus Sebastian
Probably 6,000 million dollars than what you.
- [114:41]
Luke Lafreniere
Would expect to buy a country.
- [114:44]
Linus Sebastian
Yeah, I mean, I guess. I mean, buying countries and stuff, like, was a thing. It's not like the US didn't buy a lot of the land that is now currently the United States of America.
- [114:54]
Luke Lafreniere
Yeah. However legit those deals were.
- [114:56]
Linus Sebastian
Well, that's. That's all not a US Geography and also not a US History major. So.
- [115:04]
Luke Lafreniere
Yeah, maybe don't listen to us, but. Yeah, I just. I think it's. There's really not that many people. Like, there's more people in. There's way more people in Langley.
- [115:13]
Linus Sebastian
I know you haven't done the math. So how. How much money do you actually think that is to make every person in Greenland a millionaire? Don't. Don't know. What were you. What did you have in mind?
- [115:22]
Luke Lafreniere
5.6.
- [115:23]
Linus Sebastian
So it's 56 billion.
- [115:24]
Luke Lafreniere
56 billion.
- [115:24]
Linus Sebastian
That's a lot of money.
- [115:25]
Luke Lafreniere
One factor off.
- [115:26]
Linus Sebastian
I mean, realistically, is it for the States? I mean, is money even real? American, like yearly, is money even real for America?
- [115:37]
Luke Lafreniere
Budget.
- [115:39]
Dan
That's. That's.
- [115:41]
Luke Lafreniere
Yeah, it's not that big of a deal.
- [115:42]
Dan
It's five times what Jeff Bezos made in 2024.
- [115:46]
Linus Sebastian
See, that's why. That's why I'm going to the gold standard with my personal finances.
- [115:50]
Luke Lafreniere
Oh, you won my vote.
- [115:52]
Linus Sebastian
I will no longer be dealing in paper money from here. From here on out.
- [115:56]
Luke Lafreniere
Oh, you're just going to gold brick people, Right? Upside, I need to buy my land plane. Here's a. Here's a. Here's a brick of gold. Anyways, yeah, federal budget, what's funny for 2022 was 6.5, 6.75 trillion.
- [116:15]
Linus Sebastian
Okay. They'll probably handle it. Okay.
- [116:16]
Luke Lafreniere
I think they'd be, I think they could buy that million dollars.
- [116:19]
Linus Sebastian
You know what's fun? One of the Porsche dealerships that I was talking to when I bought my Taycan told me that they like regularly deal in all kinds of like not legal tender things.
- [116:31]
Luke Lafreniere
Whoa.
- [116:32]
Linus Sebastian
Like, like, yeah, you could, if you brought in, if you could have the assayed value proven or whatever. Like they'd basically take anything for payment. I was like, what? Or was it, was it Porsche or was it another brand? I don't remember. But yeah, I did encounter a car dealership once that like brought up on unprompted man that they would take gold for payment. I was like, are you kidding me? So I could buy a car with doubloons.
- [116:57]
Luke Lafreniere
People are yelling at me about American things. I don't know, dude. I don't care. We're Canadians. So it's like, look at the American debt clock. I don't even know, dude.
- [117:04]
Linus Sebastian
It's crazy. You don't know what the debt clock is? This thing's crazy. Hold on, hold on. The debt clock.
- [117:09]
Luke Lafreniere
Trust me, guys, we have so many, so many problems up here.
- [117:13]
Linus Sebastian
Real time.
- [117:13]
Luke Lafreniere
We got to look at ourselves for a little while.
- [117:15]
Linus Sebastian
Real time.
- [117:16]
Luke Lafreniere
Canada's got some work to do.
- [117:17]
Linus Sebastian
Okay, here we go.
- [117:18]
Luke Lafreniere
This is money gained value.
- [117:20]
Linus Sebastian
Okay. I don't know, I don't know what. Can I, can I make this go away? I just want to see the debt clock.
- [117:25]
Luke Lafreniere
It looks like you installed all the browser parts.
- [117:27]
Linus Sebastian
Okay, whatever. The point is here, so you can watch the debt per citizen and you can watch the US national debt go up. So that just ticked over a million dollars. Whoa. Let's just wait for the rest of this million. So we've done half a million dollars since I said a million dollars. Like they, they, they do, they do have some challenges as well. They do have some challenges as well. There you go. There's another million dollars. It's wild.
- [117:57]
Luke Lafreniere
Yeah.
- [118:00]
Linus Sebastian
Yeah. Good luck, America.
- [118:02]
Luke Lafreniere
But at that point, what's 56 billion more buy a whole country? Can you imagine the amount of minerals that are under that huge hunk of rock? Maybe there's some.
- [118:12]
Linus Sebastian
Ah, I don't know.
- [118:13]
Luke Lafreniere
I don't know.
- [118:14]
Linus Sebastian
Don't say it.
- [118:15]
Dan
They'll hear you.
- [118:16]
Linus Sebastian
Don't say it.
- [118:16]
Luke Lafreniere
Maybe there's some oil. No.
- [118:21]
Dan
Open up.
- [118:25]
Linus Sebastian
Let's go. You guys do know what he's doing, right? This is all a distraction so they don't come for Canada.
- [118:31]
Luke Lafreniere
Yeah, there's not Alberta. Don't look at Alberta, they have no rat.
- [118:36]
Dan
No rats. That's it.
- [118:37]
Linus Sebastian
It's just mountains and. And. And then less mountainous areas.
- [118:42]
Luke Lafreniere
Yeah. This is. You want to hear lots of snow. Interesting. Canada facts. Map. Map of rats in the world. Is that.
- [118:50]
Dan
Yeah, yeah, that's. That's the best Canada fact.
- [118:52]
Linus Sebastian
Oh, dude. Yeah. Here, Luke, laptop.
- [118:54]
Luke Lafreniere
Global rat distribution. There's just. So where it's completely freezing cold, there's no rats. And then randomly there's just this little thing there. Because for some reason, one of our provinces just doesn't. They. They eradicated rats.
- [119:11]
Linus Sebastian
They. They went.
- [119:13]
Luke Lafreniere
They went super hard. They did the, like, Australian emu war, but they did it against rats. And they won.
- [119:19]
Linus Sebastian
Yeah. They actually eliminated rats from the province of Alberta, which is hilarious.
- [119:26]
Luke Lafreniere
Insane. So. So while you guys are busy, it's.
- [119:29]
Linus Sebastian
A cool rabbit hole. Rat.
- [119:30]
Luke Lafreniere
American things.
- [119:31]
Linus Sebastian
A rat hole sounds like a way worse thing than a rabbit hole.
- [119:34]
Luke Lafreniere
Yeah. Have you heard of it? What is it called? A rat king.
- [119:36]
Linus Sebastian
No.
- [119:37]
Luke Lafreniere
Yeah.
- [119:37]
Dan
Those are sad.
- [119:38]
Luke Lafreniere
Rat king.
- [119:39]
Linus Sebastian
Rat king.
- [119:40]
Luke Lafreniere
Yeah. You don't actually want to, like, show this on screen. A rat king is a collection of mice or rats whose tails are intertwined and bound together in some way. They get, like, stuck when they're, like, climbing over each other. Whatever. Their tails get tied together and then they get stuck and they can't work.
- [119:57]
Linus Sebastian
Out of it and they, like, actually.
- [119:59]
Luke Lafreniere
Horrible.
- [120:00]
Linus Sebastian
They just die.
- [120:00]
Luke Lafreniere
Yeah. Oh, so you end up finding this.
- [120:03]
Linus Sebastian
Like, you being such a bundle of.
- [120:06]
Dan
This is why we have to get rid of them.
- [120:08]
Linus Sebastian
Okay.
- [120:08]
Dan
Alberta cured the.
- [120:10]
Linus Sebastian
Alberta led the way.
- [120:11]
Dan
They led the way.
- [120:12]
Luke Lafreniere
Yeah.
- [120:12]
Linus Sebastian
Linus Media Group has started posting our internal 3D printing designs.
- [120:17]
Luke Lafreniere
Oh, that's good news. That's a good, good idea.
- [120:19]
Linus Sebastian
Yeah, let's go with that. So I asked for this, like, over a year ago. Anyway. It takes time. It takes time for us to compile things and have someone take the lead. This is not a revenue generating activity. So just because I asked for it doesn't mean that people. People are like, I will immediately work on this because it's the most valuable thing I can do. I get it. People prioritize. But it is something that I have followed up on sometimes because we design all this cool stuff. CPU holders, screwdriver holders, all kinds of stuff. And I.
- [120:47]
Luke Lafreniere
Someone said rat kings are a myth. I'm gonna decide that is a fact and just move on.
- [120:50]
Linus Sebastian
Okay, cool. So we design all kinds of cool stuff and then we just. We just sit on it. We do nothing with it. We have no, like, universal repository for it to make, even for us. Internally to make it easier to find all of these design files.
- [121:03]
Luke Lafreniere
Where's the rest of our stuff?
- [121:05]
Linus Sebastian
We're working on it. Okay, so. So anyway, it's finally there. Printables.com LinusTechTips so we've got the magnetic cable management power bar screwdriver holder. So it's got the. Basically it's got the little keyhole on the back so that you can put our magnetic cable management on it and you can just attach your screwdriver to anything metal. Yeah. Which is pretty cool. We've got the desk pad tester. I mean, yeah, sure. Why. Why not? Our hot air reworkstation tip rack. We've got our Sonos connect amp wall mount. That was a Dan. I did that one.
- [121:38]
Dan
I'm very proud of that.
- [121:39]
Linus Sebastian
We've got our fiber insulation wall mounting plates. These are super cool. These are from Jake's video where we acoustically treated the server room.
- [121:47]
Dan
Those are sick.
- [121:48]
Linus Sebastian
It'd be kind of cool for us to include. Oh, yeah. So there, you see, you can see it's. It's driven into the stud behind it. And then it holds the insulation onto the wall. And then we put duvetyne and then we have this metal plate here. So you just put a ring magnet on it to hold the duvety or to hold the. The fabric in place over top of it.
- [122:05]
Dan
That was from before we launched mcm. So we just had buckets and buckets of ring magnets.
- [122:10]
Linus Sebastian
Oh, that makes sense.
- [122:11]
Dan
Yeah.
- [122:11]
Linus Sebastian
So we have a bunch more stuff that we're going to be adding over time. People are already remixing them, which is super exciting for me. I think that's super cool. I want us to be. I want us to be part of that. Part of that culture, you know, I want us to contribute. Yeah.
- [122:27]
Luke Lafreniere
A bunch of lab stuff. So we do this too. That's cool. Spurger in floatplane chat said there's more. There is more. I know of at least a few.
- [122:36]
Dan
I have so many.
- [122:37]
Luke Lafreniere
Yeah, because we have the CPU trays.
- [122:40]
Dan
The CPU trays. They're all individualized. We have the RAM trays. We've got all the random garbage I've done.
- [122:46]
Luke Lafreniere
Oh, I bet you they're trying to figure out how to do things. Like the individualized stuff. I don't know.
- [122:51]
Dan
No, no. They're all like, you know, just STLs.
- [122:54]
Luke Lafreniere
Yeah. But like filing them nicely, I guess. Maybe.
- [122:59]
Linus Sebastian
Maybe.
- [122:59]
Dan
I mean, you just like name them, naming them.
- [123:01]
Luke Lafreniere
Yeah, maybe that's enough. I don't know.
- [123:03]
Linus Sebastian
Dang it. I'm.
- [123:04]
Luke Lafreniere
I'm just Trying to figure out why they wouldn't be up, but trying to.
- [123:07]
Linus Sebastian
Find a effort fair.
- [123:11]
Dan
Would you want me spending a few hours uploading? There you go.
- [123:15]
Luke Lafreniere
So you didn't do this, right?
- [123:17]
Linus Sebastian
There we go. Took me a while to find it because this may surprise you, but the subreddit is pretty active right now.
- [123:24]
Luke Lafreniere
A little busy. Yeah, they're stuff.
- [123:26]
Linus Sebastian
Check this out.
- [123:27]
Luke Lafreniere
They've been cordial.
- [123:28]
Linus Sebastian
Somebody already remixed it to go on the. The IKEA wall mount thing.
- [123:32]
Luke Lafreniere
Oh, nice.
- [123:33]
Linus Sebastian
That's awesome.
- [123:34]
Luke Lafreniere
A lot of people have those, so that's probably good.
- [123:36]
Linus Sebastian
Yeah, so I want to see more of that kind of stuff and like. Yeah, I don't know. It's cool. It's. Ever since I remember, I think I was. I think I was sitting in the creator warehouse engineering area and I was looking at someone had created like a really cool holder for. I don't even think it was for a finished product. It was for like keeping track of the parts for an in progress project. And I was like, we designed so much cool, like 3D printed crap. I know you designed that. There's no way that you downloaded something specifically like. And they're like, oh yeah, it doesn't take that long. And I'm like, right. But it takes a long time for people who aren't you. So we should release this stuff. This would be so cool. So we're finally freaking doing it and I'm really excited about it.
- [124:17]
Luke Lafreniere
Yeah, that's sick.
- [124:18]
Linus Sebastian
Okay, what else are we talking about? What do you want to talk about next? It says we plan to publish a new model at least once a quarter. So the next one would be sometime in March. Oh, we could. We could do them faster than you guys send it. Ah, well, okay, well, I will advocate internally for us to hurry our butts up and get more stuff up there.
- [124:35]
Luke Lafreniere
Okay, send it.
- [124:37]
Linus Sebastian
I want the CPU holders up there. People have asked for them so many times.
- [124:40]
Luke Lafreniere
Send it.
- [124:42]
Linus Sebastian
It's anyone. Is anyone watching from the. Whoever's working on this? No, I don't see anyone in chat. Okay, cool.
- [124:48]
Luke Lafreniere
Linus is A plus certification was ripped right directly out of his hands. He was holding onto it, no deny. Three months after our video on Comptia's A exam was removed from YouTube and Flowplane, Linus's A certification was finally revoked. We received an email from Pearson Vue's Credley digital credential service late last week and confirmed it via Comptia's verification website.
- [125:17]
Linus Sebastian
We can check for ourselves live on the show if you guys would like. Here we go once it be reinstated that we genuinely okay FMK Robot. But the type, the code. Oh, oh, oh, balls. Well, there's your problem. No robot could be this stupid. So I'm sure this will work. This certificate. Oh. No longer valid. Oh, the Tonight show is going to be embarrassed bringing on a tech guy. A tech person on who doesn't even have. Who doesn't even have a plus certification from non certified from CompTIA.
- [125:53]
Luke Lafreniere
Non certified fail.
- [125:55]
Linus Sebastian
Absolute failure.
- [125:57]
Luke Lafreniere
That's rough.
- [125:58]
Linus Sebastian
Well, hey, we are coming up on the five year anniversary of the I'm thinking of retiring stream.
- [126:03]
Luke Lafreniere
So it's over now.
- [126:04]
Linus Sebastian
Maybe I only needed to think about it for just five years.
- [126:06]
Luke Lafreniere
Unfortunately it was forced.
- [126:07]
Linus Sebastian
And then I'll be right. You know what? Sorry. I'm coming back to the Tonight show again because I got to say, I feel actually kind of invigorated by it. I feel like it's an opportunity for us to get, for us to share that like, like real, real tech.
- [126:25]
Luke Lafreniere
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
- [126:26]
Linus Sebastian
With a, with a completely new audience and I find that really exciting.
- [126:31]
Luke Lafreniere
That's cool.
- [126:32]
Linus Sebastian
Yeah. Anyway, nice. I'm thinking of doing a five year update stream or five Year Update video. I've been kind of putting it off. I've had a lot on my mind lately.
- [126:43]
Luke Lafreniere
You don't say.
- [126:44]
Linus Sebastian
Yeah. Sammy wanted me to do it as a short. I'm like, sammy. I'm like, sammy, how am I supposed to do this as a short? He's like, don't worry, I'll cut it down. I'm like, sam, if I do like how I've been feeling for the last five years, you're not going to be able to cut it down to three minutes. He's like, I could do it. I'm like, sammy, no, we're not shooting this today. He tried to get me to shoot it today right before Pancho. Sammy, I love you, dude, but he's.
- [127:10]
Luke Lafreniere
Trying to hit his quotas, man.
- [127:11]
Linus Sebastian
Yeah, yeah. No, no, he's. Dude, dude's a hustler.
- [127:14]
Luke Lafreniere
I had to talk to. Yes. About not biting off too much sometimes.
- [127:20]
Linus Sebastian
He's a hustler. He's a hustler. Yeah, he's a hustler. And he works hard for the float playing community.
- [127:25]
Luke Lafreniere
He really does.
- [127:25]
Linus Sebastian
I think he genuinely like cares about the floater.
- [127:28]
Luke Lafreniere
Does a lot. I see him in the comments all the time.
- [127:31]
Linus Sebastian
Yep, yep. No, no. Love, Sammy.
- [127:33]
Luke Lafreniere
There was, I was, I was looking through the comments on one of my show tour videos which I had actually a lot of fun filming.
- [127:39]
Linus Sebastian
Oh yeah, that's These are hilarious, dude.
- [127:42]
Luke Lafreniere
You watched it.
- [127:43]
Linus Sebastian
I was watching. I watched this. This is probably my. When I left off, someone sent me this.
- [127:48]
Luke Lafreniere
Sammy just bashing that robot was so funny.
- [127:53]
Linus Sebastian
Okay, that was a good one. Wait for it.
- [127:55]
Luke Lafreniere
Yeah, that's the one that he did this.
- [127:56]
Linus Sebastian
Wait for it. Wait for it. Boom. Did he even touch the ball?
- [128:07]
Luke Lafreniere
I don't think so.
- [128:08]
Linus Sebastian
What's this robot worth?
- [128:10]
Luke Lafreniere
I think it's 100 grand. He just beat it. But yeah, in that video, I was going through the comments and I saw this like disparaging comment about Sammy. So I was about to respond to it to be like, hey, like what the heck? And then I realized it was Sammy. I was like, oh, okay, all right, whatever.
- [128:26]
Linus Sebastian
Yeah, he's got a very. He's got a very self deprecating. Yeah, self deprecating sense of humor. Okay, so my. A certification has been revoked. This is cool, man. I love it when this kind of thing happens. Also, also spotted on the subreddit audience. This seems like the kind of thing Dan would have heard of. Dan, do you know audient? Oh my goodness. I'm on the wrong audio output.
- [128:53]
Luke Lafreniere
It sounded cool though.
- [128:55]
Linus Sebastian
Yeah, that definitely got my attention. So they did a promotional video for a new audio interface with a lot of inputs and a lot of outputs.
- [129:04]
Dan
Are they still relevant?
- [129:05]
Linus Sebastian
I don't know. They're relevant to me. Check this out. Wait for it, wait for it. All this in one u rack space. Whoa, what's that?
- [129:18]
Luke Lafreniere
Yo, let's go.
- [129:24]
Linus Sebastian
Because you know, you know that these guys are not a big enough company that they like went and sourced an LTT backpack to specifically feature it. Probably just like the guys there. One of them just has the LTT bag and was like, I have a backpack that it will fit in. I got this cool like backpack that fits all the tech stuff. Why don't we put it. Ah, I love it. Very cool.
- [129:43]
Dan
I think I have a bunch of their vintage gear.
- [129:45]
Linus Sebastian
Very cool. So I, I don't know much about their products or anything. I don't, I don't do that world very much. But definitely appreciated Mr. Rubber Duck for spotting that in their ID48 audio interface promotional video.
- [129:59]
Dan
I used to use their microphone preamps. They make some amazing stuff.
- [130:04]
Linus Sebastian
So you could, you, you could spot the extra riveted top handle as well as of course the orange internals. Yeah, very cool.
- [130:11]
Luke Lafreniere
Should we do the our review embargoes bad thing first?
- [130:14]
Linus Sebastian
We should do discussion question. Oh, how's it feel to see CWLTT products just popping up in Unexpected places. It's so cool. I love it.
- [130:21]
Luke Lafreniere
And I usually end up seeing the screwdriver. The backpack is also cool.
- [130:25]
Linus Sebastian
I don't know why it surprises me that much. Like, we've sold, literally, I mean this in a literal sense, hundreds of thousands of screwdrivers at this point. Like, they are out there. We have sold tens of thousands of backpacks at this point. They're out there. But it still tickles me because I'm just like, no way. You know, like, it's cool.
- [130:47]
Luke Lafreniere
Yeah, I watch a bunch of like DIY content and stuff on YouTube. I mentioned earlier, I don't watch TV. I do watch a heck in YouTube for sure. And every once in a while, you know, they'll pull one out and I'll just pick up and you can tell, like, it's worn. Yeah, it's like, nice.
- [131:05]
Linus Sebastian
That's what I like to say.
- [131:06]
Luke Lafreniere
Yeah. It's like, all right, you've actually used this a bunch.
- [131:09]
Linus Sebastian
That's because you got it and you're just like, damn, Damn. Damn.
- [131:14]
Luke Lafreniere
He's nice.
- [131:15]
Linus Sebastian
I love it. You say our buffalo says, does it make you feel like a real company? Yeah, in a big way. Because between like, like doing the sponsorships and stuff like that, where we've actually, like, sponsored creators, between seeing people just in the real world, just fricking using it. One of my favorite posts that I see is I am a X technician. Here's my driver with X thing that I work that I'm working on right now in the background. And we see people posting planes and boats and all manner of machinery. And it's super cool. It's super cool. What?
- [131:57]
Luke Lafreniere
Mempakore mem Pican said more screwdrivers than people in Greenland.
- [132:02]
Linus Sebastian
Oh, by a long shot, we might have sold about as many backpacks as people in Greenland. So we could have equipped the entire country of Greenland. But no, not quite. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. If we count the commuter bag, I think we've sold enough backpacks to equip everyone in Greenland.
- [132:16]
Luke Lafreniere
Nice.
- [132:16]
Linus Sebastian
We're not going to do that because I'm not the American government and I can't just print money, but. Well, I guess.
- [132:21]
Luke Lafreniere
Well, Canadian government, I guess I could and does.
- [132:26]
Linus Sebastian
Nice.
- [132:27]
Luke Lafreniere
Our printer works very well as well. Both countries have fantastic printers.
- [132:33]
Linus Sebastian
It's not worth as much. So all things considered, we have to overclock our printer by about 44%.
- [132:39]
Luke Lafreniere
Extremely high performance in order to get the same output. Very cool.
- [132:46]
Linus Sebastian
Are review embargoes bad? Okay, so I saw, or rather not. I. I saw But I have observed a trend, a trend that seems to be picking up steam. And I noticed a lot in our coverage at CES this year of people feeling like and expressing their feeling that review embargoes, or basically literally anything other than all the information all at once is, like, unethical. Like, it's scummy, it's awful. And so I guess what I want to talk about is why information embargoes do exist, and the pros and cons for all of the various parties involved.
- [133:33]
Luke Lafreniere
There are definitely cons, and I think they are sometimes abused by companies. So it depends on. As we go through this, one of the nuances to keep in mind is how they're used.
- [133:44]
Linus Sebastian
Absolutely.
- [133:44]
Luke Lafreniere
The idea of one embargo for one product is not always how it goes. It's actually depending on what company it is. Sometimes that's very far from the reality.
- [133:53]
Linus Sebastian
Yeah, we've called out Nvidia in the past for taking one GPU and saying, okay, here's the embargo for the announcement. It exists. Here's the embargo. And I'm exaggerating a little bit. Okay, I'm going to add some extras, but multiple embargoes for one product. So I'm not going to say Nvidia anymore. I'm just going to say we have had companies. Hit us with variations of. Dan, are we okay?
- [134:16]
Dan
Yeah, sorry. Just hitting a screen cap.
- [134:18]
Linus Sebastian
Hit us with variations of. Here's the embargo for that it exists at all. Here's the embargo for the basic specs. Here's the embargo for. For some new technology that it supports or a deeper dive. Here's the embargo for the unboxing. Here's the embargo for performance analysis.
- [134:39]
Luke Lafreniere
It's like, okay, that's clearly because you're trying to milk content.
- [134:42]
Linus Sebastian
Yes. You're trying to extend the news cycle as long as possible, essentially asking the media to do free advertising for you. Because a lot of that stuff is not really asking them to do any, like, input, anything. They're just repeating what you've told them because that's the only information they have. However, that doesn't always mean that that's a bad thing. A lot of the time, what happens with a show like ces, because it happens on these days. These days, is that companies aren't fully ready yet. This may surprise you, but companies are made up of people who, like you, stayed up late playing video games sometimes and missed a deadline sometimes, or ran into a challenging problem sometimes. And you know what, the one that they have at CES on those days might be held together by wood screws and duct tape and it might not be ready to be benchmarked. Like, honestly, I was kind of, I was kind of taken aback when Nvidia allowed us to game on the 5090 at all.
- [135:51]
Luke Lafreniere
Yeah.
- [135:51]
Linus Sebastian
Under any circumstances. When AMD allowed us to game on the Ryzen AI Max. Plus at all, the fact that AMD let me pick the game.
- [136:02]
Luke Lafreniere
Yeah, that was pretty wild.
- [136:03]
Linus Sebastian
I was blown away. That's not normal. None of that is normal. That was pretty cool of them to take.
- [136:11]
Luke Lafreniere
Usually you can't even open the settings screen, let alone change settings, let alone change the game, et cetera.
- [136:15]
Linus Sebastian
To take this pre release not, not, not fully, you know, ready for consumer primetime stuff and let us, let us show it early demonstrates a lot of confidence and actually a relatively high degree of openness. And then to kind of see this, I don't know, this sentiment that was pervasive in the comments that they were scummy for not letting us do more. It's not a performance review. And even if they did let me do everything that I could possibly want to, I don't have time. Yeah, like, I've got, I've got maybe.
- [136:48]
Luke Lafreniere
An hour especially to have proper rigor.
- [136:50]
Linus Sebastian
Well, yeah, exactly. So I don't know. And realistically, they gave us enough. They gave us enough that we were able to give you guys something, you know, especially the Ryzen AI Max. The fact that we could play that game at all and, and like, don't go conspiracy theory, guys. I saw people being like, yeah, that scene, they picked that scene because it's relatively light. No, I picked that scene because I haven't actually played Black Myth Wukong yet. And I just bought it. I bought it in AMD's booth and that's the beginning of the game. That's why I ran that scene. And the reason that we picked Black Myth Wukong was because it's a really demanding game and I wanted to see can this thing do console level graphics in a, in a, in a thin like tablet like device. And that happened to be the game that MSI in the next booth over had on a drive. Guys, sometimes it ain't that deep.
- [137:44]
Luke Lafreniere
Yeah.
- [137:45]
Linus Sebastian
And so, yeah, I thought that was, I thought that was really cool. I think it's a really exciting chip.
- [137:49]
Luke Lafreniere
Genuinely pretty awesome.
- [137:52]
Linus Sebastian
Anyway, so we've got a kind of a summary from the, from the writing team that they put together and of the kind of the pros and Cons. So pros, from a brand perspective, you have time to communicate your message and your product details to reviewers. Because if you don't have. Because otherwise, think about it, you can't brief everybody at once on a new product. You could do a zoom call, but people are going to have questions, they'll have follow ups. You need time to disseminate information. So having a gap between when you first start doing that and when everyone can go public with it buys you time. The brand also has time to address potential issues before public release of the information and even potentially public release of the product. We have seen problems that have been found by reviewers that have been fixed by the time the product hits the public. Now, should brands be using reviewers as beta testers? No, probably not. And does that create a huge amount of extra burden in some cases because you have to redo all your testing once they patch it? Yeah. And that's not cool and that's not fair. But is that way better than a buggy product hitting consumers? Absolutely. Of course. Cons. You can lose buzz around the launch if reviews are delayed, especially if the details leak early. I think there are exceptions to this. I don't think Nintendo has lost any Switch 2 buzz because of all the leaks, if anything.
- [139:21]
Luke Lafreniere
Dude, did you see the views on that video? That's one thing I don't think we actually talked about, number one, trending. Yeah, I, I checked the. The views on the Steam deck.
- [139:31]
Linus Sebastian
Yeah.
- [139:31]
Luke Lafreniere
And it beat the views on the Steam deck in two hours. Yeah, yeah, all time. Steam deck.
- [139:36]
Linus Sebastian
All Nintendo would have to do to be the top YouTuber in the world is release new console every day.
- [139:41]
Luke Lafreniere
Yeah, it's already at 16 million views. That's wild. Interesting.
- [139:47]
Linus Sebastian
Okay, so another conversation. It could be seen as an attempt to control the narrative or limit transparency. And in some cases we have seen that for reviewers, a pro is that it gives all the reviewers a shared deadline and takes away the. Some of the sort of feeling that you can have that you like need to rush in order to, in order to like support yourself in your livelihood and you know, hit the content earlier because there is a strong financial, not to mention just like dopamine incentive to publishing something that gets a lot of.
- [140:27]
Luke Lafreniere
Views you might still have.
- [140:28]
Linus Sebastian
That's very human.
- [140:29]
Luke Lafreniere
A very considerable amount of pressure.
- [140:31]
Linus Sebastian
Absolutely.
- [140:33]
Luke Lafreniere
Because maybe the deadline versus when you get the thing.
- [140:37]
Linus Sebastian
Oh, sure.
- [140:38]
Luke Lafreniere
Are not really that far away from each other.
- [140:40]
Linus Sebastian
So I am, I am, I am going through this list as like a sort of in good faith, if everything's working properly. Properly manner, if that makes sense. If everyone has a shared deadline and some people get two weeks with it and some people get three days, well, you kind of still have the same problem, don't you? But if, if, if a real good faith effort is made to get everyone the product at the same time, get everyone the briefing at the same time and then have everybody release the information at the same time so that we get these multiple perspectives. But people have time to do their work. That can be a benefit. Another pro is that it can give reviewers the ability to plan and allocate resources to cover multiple products. During times like around ces, around Computex, techtober, there can be a lot of launches and if we have embargo dates communicated to us ahead of time, it allows us to plan our production. For instance, we made the call to not do a full review of the Arc B570. We knew it was going to be Arc B580 but like slower and cheaper.
- [141:44]
Luke Lafreniere
I thought the live stream was a really cool idea.
- [141:45]
Linus Sebastian
Yeah, the live stream was cool, but we didn't actually use the B570 in the livestream. Oh yeah, we used the B580 because basically what we built was a strategy to address the two major questions that we had outstanding. How much of the opposite of uplift? Downfall. Not downfall, but anyway, how much performance loss was there compared to the B580? And we were able to do that with a little bit of light labs testing in a short circuit. So there's the B570 kind of what we said, what we need to say about it. The other major thing that we've wanted to look at for ARC is how's the game compatibility on BattleMage? And then that's where the stream came in, where we let viewers submit their suggestions for games that we could try side by side against an RTX 4060. Another. But cons for reviewers brands can seriously hamper the review process. Like Luke said, by delaying access to the product. It restricts our ability sometimes to cover products in a timely manner. Like if we, if we. Okay, I'm actually, I don't know if it restricts our ability to cover things. There can be pressure to have your review published the moment the embargo lifts because otherwise no one's going to watch it or read it. And it's in a way forcing you to kind of play the game, right? To work with companies and agree to these embargoes, to get early access to the products, to support yourself, to have your livelihood. Right. Like it Puts you at company's mercy a little bit. But the reality of it is, is that's just how it works. You can just source products yourself. We do it for Apple, for instance. Apple has zero working relationship with us. And we. I think we still manage to cover their products. But it is definitely. It is definitely beneficial to have a product explained by the people who built it. Not just beneficial for us, but beneficial for the viewer. So let's get into the benefits for the viewer. You get more comprehensive, well researched reviews that include multiple perspectives. Our personal perspective. We can get perspectives from outsiders. We can get perspectives from the brand and build the most complete picture that we can. It also helps build trust in the review process, because if everything's just kind of coming out in leaks and dribbles and drabs and people are rushing things because there's no time, and they're just trying to get things up as quick as possible, I think that can erode trust. But the con is consumers may perceive cooperation with embargoes as the reviewer being influenced. Influenced by the brand. I think that basically just comes down to how influenced you are by it. And in some cases, I think some people are. I think some people are very not influenced by it. There's a lot of publications that if they, you know, got a briefing on a product and they got shipped to gpu, I'd be like, yeah. And like, what is someone gonna. Is someone gonna say that hardware on box is gonna, like, give better coverage to. To a GPU because. Or Wendell from Level 1 Techs is gonna give better coverage to a GPU because Nvidia sent it to. Please. If Wendell was for sale for the price of a gpu, I'd be the first one in line to buy them.
- [144:54]
Luke Lafreniere
You'd have to. Yeah, I don't know about that. I'll get there pretty quick. Right.
- [144:58]
Dan
See, that's what I'm talking about.
- [145:01]
Linus Sebastian
All right, what else we got today? What do you want to do, Luke?
- [145:06]
Luke Lafreniere
We can do the John Deere thing.
- [145:08]
Linus Sebastian
Yeah, I think we can kind of get. Just go through that one pretty quick.
- [145:11]
Luke Lafreniere
Fire it through. The US Federal Trade Commission, along with the attorneys general of Illinois and Minnesota, sued tractor and agricultural manufacturer John Deere on Wednesday, alleging that Deere has monopoly power over the repair mark. Oh, let's go. Okay.
- [145:25]
Linus Sebastian
Right.
- [145:26]
Luke Lafreniere
FTC chair and extremely based person Lena Khan stated that Deere has, in quotes, has allegedly restricted the ability of farmers and independent technicians to repair deer equipment, including tractors and combines. John Deere has responded saying that the suit in quotes ignores the company's long standing commitment to customer self repair and the sure sure and the consistent progress and innovation we have made over time. End quote. 404 Media's article notes that Deere has become notorious for cornering the repair market on its machines by introducing software locks to prevent farmers from fixing the equipment that they buy without the authorization of John Deere. Being forced to. This is no longer the quote. But being forced to wait for authorized repair personnel can mean significant delays in repairing machines during the critical planting and harvesting seasons which can result in lost harvest and dying crops. In October of 2024, US Senator Elizabeth Warren said that Deere was not honoring a memorandum of understanding that would have made it possible for farmers to make some repairs on their own. The current FTC suit states that the MOU was designed to kill right to repair legislation and repair regulation against the company. I saw some dudes wearing John Deere hats down at CES that I was relatively certain were just like employees of John Deere. And it. It took. It took a significant amount not to just roast them about right to repair. I'm not even kidding. I don't even know this was happening. Happening. It's just John Deere has been the only like agricultural company that has consistently showed up on wan show for just being trash. I'm sure they're like products are good. But the. The right to repair issues are brutal. And farmers of honestly anyone have been known for maintaining and keeping things going on their own historically forever. And taking that away from them is.
- [147:27]
Linus Sebastian
Ridiculous and stupid and drives up the price of food.
- [147:31]
Luke Lafreniere
Yeah. Which is like you should all be mad.
- [147:34]
Linus Sebastian
Not good.
- [147:35]
Luke Lafreniere
Yeah. Def CON had a talk about John Deere. Yeah. And it was sick.
- [147:39]
Linus Sebastian
Based Lina Khan.
- [147:40]
Luke Lafreniere
Based Lina Khan.
- [147:41]
Linus Sebastian
Please run for Prime Minister of Canada.
- [147:43]
Luke Lafreniere
Yeah. Come up here please. It'd be great.
- [147:45]
Linus Sebastian
Can. Does someone know her? Okay, like how many people. How many people watching right now? We got 23,000 people watching on YouTube. We probably got a few thousand more on flow plane. Like 25 people on Facebook. Okay. The six degrees of separation thing. Okay. Does anyone know anyone who knows anyone who knows Lina Khan? Can you just. Can you just formally. Can you just formally request that she come to Canada and run for Prime Minister? I will. I will personally be her biggest cheerleader.
- [148:11]
Luke Lafreniere
I don't think she's announced what she's doing next. I'm like genuinely interested. Hopefully whatever it is, she's able to have a similar impact. I don't know. Yeah.
- [148:22]
Linus Sebastian
Yeah. Anyways, be clear. I am kidding actually. Can you. Can you. If you weren't born in Canada, can you be Prime Minister?
- [148:29]
Luke Lafreniere
I have no idea.
- [148:30]
Linus Sebastian
I know in America you have to be born in. Do you have to be born.
- [148:34]
Luke Lafreniere
That argument constantly comes up in American politics. I've never heard it for Canadian ones.
- [148:38]
Linus Sebastian
No. 4 of Canada's prime ministers have been born outside Canada. Oh, well, okay. Some of them, like the very early ones, Alexander MacKenzie, John A. MacDonald.
- [148:46]
Luke Lafreniere
Because like kind of need to be.
- [148:48]
Linus Sebastian
Literally every white dude.
- [148:50]
Luke Lafreniere
Here's our new Prime Minister. There are five. They'll grow up.
- [148:57]
Linus Sebastian
All right. Hey, can't be much worse. There's a little rapid fire Hexos update.
- [149:03]
Luke Lafreniere
Oh, okay.
- [149:04]
Linus Sebastian
This is from. This is from John from Hexos. We have been absolutely blown away by the response from both the LTT and the home server community. The sheer number of people who have reached out to offer support, apply for jobs, offer out potential for partnerships has been incredible. Special thanks to Mawson, Dylan, Ubergeek, Mobius and Theo from the Hexos forums. These guys have been amazing and helping our community immensely. Just to catch you guys up, Hexos is the NAS software that is being developed under the leadership of a couple former unraid guys who go way back to helping me with seven gamers, one CPU that basically split off and were like, we need startup funding. And I was like, oh my God, you guys. Okay, sure. And you know, I've talked about this on the WAN show before. I had no idea if they're they were going to succeed. Really. I knew they're like good guys. I knew they're super good guys. But this is a big project, it's a big undertaking. But what I knew was that I wanted their product to exist. An easier DIY NAS software. It's built on Truenas and it's got a really pretty interface and it's designed to be Truenas. Rock solid in the foundation and pretty modern. Like pretty and modern, not somewhat modern. Pretty and modern in the front end. Anyway, fast facts. They've sold approximately 28,000 licenses so far. So suck it, haters. Basically, the number of people that are like, there's no. What are they guys? Just cuz it's not for you doesn't mean it's not for anybody.
- [150:40]
Luke Lafreniere
Yeah, I was just gonna say. And it not being for you is totally, is fine.
- [150:43]
Linus Sebastian
Totally fine.
- [150:44]
Luke Lafreniere
Use it.
- [150:44]
Linus Sebastian
Go roll like Baron Truenas and like get in there in the command line. Do it, do it.
- [150:49]
Luke Lafreniere
There's some people I talk to excitedly about this. There are other people that I would have never brought it up once.
- [150:55]
Linus Sebastian
Yeah.
- [150:55]
Luke Lafreniere
Because it's just not applicable to them at all. That's fine.
- [150:58]
Linus Sebastian
Eshtek has more than doubled the team size since the launch with at least three more hires planned in 2025. And. Oh, I wish I could tell you what this is, but they have already reinvested in the community with a six figure sponsorship of an open source development project to be announced soon. It's really cool.
- [151:16]
Luke Lafreniere
Cool.
- [151:16]
Linus Sebastian
Game changer. The sheer volume.
- [151:19]
Luke Lafreniere
I can ask you this. Is it going to work with their thing? Cool.
- [151:22]
Linus Sebastian
Yeah, of course.
- [151:23]
Luke Lafreniere
Nice.
- [151:24]
Linus Sebastian
But it'll be open source.
- [151:25]
Luke Lafreniere
Nice.
- [151:25]
Linus Sebastian
Which is cool.
- [151:26]
Luke Lafreniere
Nice.
- [151:26]
Linus Sebastian
The sheer volume of support has made us rethink our development approach for 2025. More info soon. Once we have the new team ramped up, I should have time to post some comprehensive updates through blog posts. Exciting times. All right, so that's it. I don't. I don't want to spend too much time on. This is it. Oh, it's after dark.
- [151:41]
Luke Lafreniere
Let's go. And I told you, I've been. I shifted some of my weightlifting days to movement and flexibility days.
- [151:55]
Linus Sebastian
Yeah.
- [151:57]
Luke Lafreniere
In general, I feel very good. There are things that are sore and I'm not used to being sore.
- [152:04]
Linus Sebastian
Like your perennium.
- [152:06]
Luke Lafreniere
Perennium.
- [152:07]
Dan
Oh, long ass.
- [152:09]
Luke Lafreniere
Come on.
- [152:10]
Dan
That's always sore.
- [152:11]
Luke Lafreniere
Come on. Yeah.
- [152:14]
Linus Sebastian
If you don't know what it is, don't look it up. It's fine.
- [152:18]
Luke Lafreniere
My goodness. I did. I did.
- [152:23]
Linus Sebastian
Sat through 2 and a half hours of the show already. They're chill, they're easy.
- [152:27]
Luke Lafreniere
So I got a course for the weightlifting stuff. I didn't do courses. I just learned stuff on my own. For the flexibility stuff, I'm like, this is so far out of my realm. I need somebody to help me. So I bought a course. It was unlimited lifetime access to this one course. Whatever. They had a Black Friday sale. Fine. I just started it and I started watching video. I went to the gym and then started watching because it was like, okay, do this movement. Here's a video so you can see what the movement is and then log your stuff and move on to the next one. And they had me. I'm at a public gym. They had me do cat cows. Do you know what cat cows are? Did you just laugh? Do you know what they are?
- [153:03]
Dan
I snorted.
- [153:04]
Luke Lafreniere
Yeah.
- [153:05]
Dan
Do you want to demonstrate?
- [153:06]
Linus Sebastian
No, No, I really don't. No, no, no, no.
- [153:10]
Luke Lafreniere
There's no shot. I'd have to get up on the table and. It's not happening. It's not happening. It's not happening. It's not happening.
- [153:19]
Dan
I'm just gonna.
- [153:20]
Luke Lafreniere
It's not happening.
- [153:20]
Dan
I'm just gonna add a picture to the. Oh, no, no.
- [153:24]
Luke Lafreniere
You guys.
- [153:24]
Dan
You guys can just show it on your laptops. Of course.
- [153:26]
Linus Sebastian
Sure. Cat. Cow.
- [153:30]
Luke Lafreniere
So I had to. I had to do this in public gym. I had to do this in a public gym, dude. So you go. So you start in the one on the right. You start on the right, and then you go to a neutral position, and you go to the one on the left. And I just. I had a certain point, I just closed my eyes, so I was like, I don't want to see people looking at me while I do this. I went into the corner. Usually, I, like, I'm there. I'm working hard. I'm lifting pretty heavy. This is the gym I normally go to. I know people there at this point. And then out of nowhere, New Year happens. I go into the corner of the gym and I just.
- [154:06]
Dan
It's like that. That great song by 2 Live Crew.
- [154:09]
Linus Sebastian
Luke, I think it's okay. I don't think it's. I don't think it's embarrassing.
- [154:13]
Luke Lafreniere
I was you, dude. It was very embarrassing. It was extremely embarrassing.
- [154:19]
Dan
Yeah, get it, girl.
- [154:21]
Linus Sebastian
You got this bronze says I call it Cat. He.
- [154:27]
Dan
Yeah, but does it make it better or worse?
- [154:31]
Linus Sebastian
VNG Supernova. So that's what white people twerking is.
- [154:37]
Luke Lafreniere
It's like slow and clunky.
- [154:40]
Dan
Luke's trying to get Linus's thighs, but he can't do it.
- [154:44]
Luke Lafreniere
But, I mean, yeah, like, things feel pretty good, but my goodness, I might. I might. I might do those ones at home. We'll see. Yeah, I think that.
- [154:54]
Dan
Don't let the birds see you. They won't respect. Expect you anymore.
- [154:58]
Luke Lafreniere
That whole. They said you need a bench, but, like, I don't know. I could just use a chair for everything I had to do. So I can easily do it at home.
- [155:04]
Linus Sebastian
Yeah. Or a couch, you know, Certain kinds.
- [155:13]
Luke Lafreniere
All right, good enough. Bed frame.
- [155:15]
Linus Sebastian
Yeah, yeah, yeah. What are we supposed to be doing.
- [155:18]
Luke Lafreniere
Right now after dark?
- [155:19]
Dan
You want a merch message? It's very after dark this evening.
- [155:22]
Linus Sebastian
Yeah, sure.
- [155:22]
Luke Lafreniere
Yeah.
- [155:23]
Linus Sebastian
Yeah, sure. Hit me. Dan.
- [155:24]
Luke Lafreniere
Hey.
- [155:25]
Dan
Lld. Last week you mentioned we're moving away from. Oh, no, we did that one. I didn't archive it. What advice do you have for somebody moving who wants to put in wired networking from scratch? Currently researching the best setups for access points, cameras, door access, LAN, parties, etc.
- [155:40]
Luke Lafreniere
Consider the future and put in conduit.
- [155:42]
Linus Sebastian
Yeah, but not everywhere, though. Like, not okay. If the Run is easy. Put in one, if the run is hard, run two. You never know, you might, you might pull a Linus and get your like your mirror image screwed up and mis. Terminate the same thing six times and use it all up. I did it once. Yvonne had to be, had to look at me and go, that's not what you were doing before. I had done all the other ones in the entire installation. This was back in my old house. You could, you could have a. You could have something chew through the cable. You could have. Things happen basically, is what I'm trying to say. The cable could just be defective in the first place or it could get damaged while you're running it. So if you run two, cable is not. That's not that expensive in the grand scheme of things. Running cable can get real expensive depending on where you're going. So that's a big one for me. I would say for something like access points, now that they're all so pretty and you can do like wireless backhaul with 6 GHz and stuff, I feel like I would go wired backhaul for everything, but I feel like it's less of a big deal if you like miss a spot. But with cameras, really get in there with like one camera and just like 100 meter spool and like really make sure you like the views where you're putting in your cameras. Do that homework because there's a couple that I'm not really happy with and that I wish I had done a little bit differently.
- [157:11]
Dan
What about wireless cameras? I mean, then you still have to deal with power, right?
- [157:14]
Linus Sebastian
So wireless cameras, I've just found them, I found them slower. I found the quality can be not as good. I, I don't like anything wireless. I always prefer, I always prefer wired.
- [157:28]
Dan
And see, it's also easier to run. Let me do that. It's also easier to run like Cat 5 than it is power. Right?
- [157:36]
Linus Sebastian
This is true. This is true. So yeah, I do, I do wired when I can and wireless when I have to. For something like a doorbell camera, you know, I'll go, yeah, sure, I'll go wireless if I need to. Like, that's fine. What else would you, what else would you consider currently researching best apps for access points? I mean, just thoughtfulness is the biggest one. Door access. Okay, I got a cool video coming on that soon.
- [158:00]
Luke Lafreniere
Yes. Spend time testing your access point locations before you actually like permanently place them.
- [158:06]
Dan
A lot of good can be had with tape. To the ceiling.
- [158:08]
Luke Lafreniere
Yeah, yeah.
- [158:10]
Dan
And along the wall just to make.
- [158:11]
Linus Sebastian
Sure LAN parties, I would say for a LAN party almost, I wouldn't even, like, overthink it. As long as you've got one, you know, cat 6A.
- [158:20]
Luke Lafreniere
Yeah. Just toss a switch on the table.
- [158:22]
Linus Sebastian
Yeah, you got one ten gig uplink. Yeah. You know, like, if you're like that couple that built the, like, land game.
- [158:29]
Luke Lafreniere
Yeah, yeah, yeah, dude, you know. Yeah, sick.
- [158:32]
Linus Sebastian
Do it up right.
- [158:33]
Luke Lafreniere
You're probably not doing that, but that's sick.
- [158:35]
Linus Sebastian
But if you're just trying to be ready to run a. Run a LAN party once in a while, then, yeah, as long as you just have, like, run Cat 6A to the ones that matter, unlike me. Do not run Cat 6A everywhere. If something's only ever going to need gigabit or two and a half gig, you can do two and a half gig on Cat 5e over. I don't think over the full distance. Yo, Dan, do you remember how far you can do 2.5 gig on Cat 5e?
- [158:57]
Dan
I mean, the spec is like 300ft.
- [159:00]
Linus Sebastian
I'm looking it up now. Is the spec 300ft for 2.5 gig? Come on.
- [159:10]
Dan
I think it's like, for everything, your mileage may vary.
- [159:16]
Linus Sebastian
Yes.
- [159:17]
Dan
Because the spec, like we've done 10 gig in the lab and the spec fails like our testing equipment fails at 300ft, we can still get, you know, 10 gig, right?
- [159:27]
Linus Sebastian
Yep. And like, you can run 10 gig on Cat 5e, which is not rated for. If the distance is extremely short. Just like you can use like an ancient HDMI 1.4 cable. Certified cable, if it's a really short one. And you can run HDMI 2.1 or whatever. Sometimes. Sometimes it's just. It's just not a guarantee. That's why these standards exist for reliability and consistency.
- [159:51]
Dan
As long as you have the eight conductors.
- [159:52]
Linus Sebastian
Yes. Yeah, that. Yeah. What else. What else could we really say? I'd say Moving wants to put a Martin. Pick your battles. That's another big one. Like, if you don't have to pull off Sheetrock, just don't just. Just run a little thing. I. I thought I cared a lot about that when we moved into my current place. And so we, like, we pulled off drywall everywhere and put everything, you know, behind the drywall. And then when we did the. The one place we didn't was in the family room where we have 5.1 or. No. What even is it? 5.5.1.2. I forget what it is, but like a surround setup, because I never intended to have one there. And then my bloody Family, like, never wanted to go down to the theater room. They always want to just watch them. Like, okay, fine, screw it then. We're gonna put surround in here. And so I had to do it after the fact. And I ended up using the little, like, cable hiders and stuff. And you know what? I never notice them. Yeah, I never think about them. So pick your battles. Like, sometimes it's better to just run a little plastic thing. They're so overpriced.
- [160:51]
Luke Lafreniere
Oh, yeah.
- [160:52]
Linus Sebastian
It kills me giving LeGrand that much money for a little plastic tube. I'm dead. Oh, cable hiders. Hold on.
- [161:01]
Luke Lafreniere
3D. Print, like, a trillion smaller ones.
- [161:04]
Linus Sebastian
Yeah. And I'm sure there's, like, cheaper ones, but the last time I shopped for these was years ago, and it was not immediately apparent, you know, what the cheaper ones were and if they were any good. In fact, I think we used some of the cheaper ones when we did the family room. I think Jake sourced them, but these are the ones that I used years before that. And I had some leftovers, so I used them for some stuff as well. Wire mold, cord cover. There you go. Wall hider. There's lots of different names for them, apparently. All right, what else we got? Dan.
- [161:33]
Dan
Hello, Linous, Jake and Dunn. I'm a UPS driver and I love listening to the WAN show VOD at work, wondering what your worst package delivery experience has been. Any lost, damage or stolen packages?
- [161:46]
Luke Lafreniere
I've got a good one for this.
- [161:47]
Linus Sebastian
Cool. I've got a couple.
- [161:49]
Luke Lafreniere
I. At one point in time, I was really trying to fix my posture. So I did buy an expensive thing. Spoiler alert, I returned it. But I did buy an expensive thing. I bought a Erman Miller chair.
- [162:02]
Linus Sebastian
Did you just say ermine?
- [162:04]
Luke Lafreniere
I didn't mean to do that, but I did.
- [162:05]
Linus Sebastian
I like it.
- [162:06]
Dan
You know what?
- [162:06]
Linus Sebastian
I'm gonna go with that.
- [162:08]
Luke Lafreniere
It's Ermin now.
- [162:09]
Linus Sebastian
Yeah.
- [162:09]
Dan
I mean, you got Hermes.
- [162:11]
Luke Lafreniere
Yeah, I think it was the embody or something. I don't remember what, but this is when I totally didn't live under the old studio house. And they delivered it. I didn't get a confirmation of the delivery. And they just left it on the lawn in the front. When they deliver those chairs, they're not like, they require no assembly.
- [162:37]
Linus Sebastian
Right.
- [162:38]
Luke Lafreniere
It's an enormous box.
- [162:40]
Linus Sebastian
Right.
- [162:40]
Luke Lafreniere
And they just left it on the lawn. The, like, wet lawn, super chill in the middle of suburbia with no one home. They didn't get a confirmation signature that it was not a 2.5k chair. Just to be clear at that Time it was a lot cheaper and I returned it. I think it was about a grand. It was a lot. It was a big deal. But I was like, I'm going to, you know, I spent a lot of time sitting in the chair. My posture is terrible. I'm going to try to get a good chair. And it showed up. I was pissed that it was just like abandoned in the lawn. I drag it inside. I didn't like it that much. I just returned it.
- [163:11]
Linus Sebastian
Oh well, I got a couple of good ones. One of them is very similar. So do you. Did you ever check out the video we did on the Cluvins Scorpion Chair?
- [163:22]
Luke Lafreniere
Oh yeah.
- [163:23]
Linus Sebastian
When they delivered that the title was not a lie. The title was, you know, obviously not that descriptive. So you could describe it as kind of clickbait in that sense. Because we were like, they left this in my driveway. Right, okay. But I personally am fine with that as long as it is reflective of the reality of the situation. And they did. They left it not in my driveway at home, but effectively in our driveway at work. Whatever courier they contracted.
- [163:54]
Luke Lafreniere
Why is this happening?
- [163:55]
Linus Sebastian
Just like, why is it chairs a giant friggin crate like essentially in the parking lot at our studio. And I don't blame Kluvins for this, to be clear. I think it must have been some kind of miscommunication of some sort. I don't, I don't think I can attribute this one to malice. There's gotta be, there's gotta be an error, a wire that got crossed somewhere. But one of my other favorite ones was when we did a, a sponsored video project with a PC builder. And I think, I think they asked us not to disclose who it was at some point. Like not. Or not to not disclose, but not to, not to address that this had happened in the video because we thought it was hilarious. But they were like, yeah, our stuff being destroyed is just not that like, you know, on brand for us. We're not, we're not into like, we're not into like gore of our stuff being destroyed. But this boutique beautiful gaming system got mangled. Like shattered tempered glass side panel. And what was painful about this was that it was very customized. And that really sucked. That, that really sucked.
- [165:03]
Luke Lafreniere
That's rough. I was like entirely on the shipping company.
- [165:06]
Linus Sebastian
Oh yeah, yeah.
- [165:07]
Luke Lafreniere
So it was packaged nicely.
- [165:08]
Linus Sebastian
And I think that was another thing that they had some sensitivity around was they were like, yeah, we really don't want people to think that this is reflective of our packing materials. And I actually support that position for Them because it was good. Their packing materials are excellent.
- [165:20]
Luke Lafreniere
Nice.
- [165:21]
Linus Sebastian
But even the best packing materials can succumb to a dropkick. All right, what else we got?
- [165:30]
Dan
Okay. Hi, dlo. One of my hard drives on my NAS recently started reporting checksum errors, and a colleague suggested running SpinWrite on it to recover the data. Is that snake oil or does it work?
- [165:42]
Linus Sebastian
I have not tried it, but I would say that if you're getting checksum or smart errors, you should replace your drive.
- [165:50]
Dan
What if he's doing RAID zero?
- [165:52]
Linus Sebastian
Then you should stop doing RAID zero and then replace your drive.
- [165:56]
Luke Lafreniere
Yeah.
- [165:59]
Dan
Yeah. Why would you want to cover.
- [166:01]
Linus Sebastian
People are saying spinraid is so awesome. Okay, maybe I need to familiarize myself with this.
- [166:06]
Dan
Why would this person want to run Spin right on it instead of just replacing the drive? Maybe this is a drive in, like, help me out chat. Is it a single drive.
- [166:22]
Linus Sebastian
Originally written as an interleave tool? Okay.
- [166:27]
Luke Lafreniere
Oh, no. Yeah. Spin right's ancient.
- [166:29]
Linus Sebastian
Yeah.
- [166:29]
Luke Lafreniere
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
- [166:29]
Linus Sebastian
I didn't. That's. Okay. That's super cool. I mean, I can't hurt to test it. I don't know. I'm at the point in my life where if. If you're running it in RAID one, then I would say, yeah, I don't know, run some utility on it and maybe it's fine. You'll have the redundancy still anyway. But I'm at a point in my life where when it comes to data, if I see a smart error, if I see a checksum error, don't mess with it, I throw it away. I'm sorry. I. Yeah, yeah. People are like, spin right is legit. Says Steve Gibson of Gibson Research. Apparently, this is according to OS Dirk in the floatplane chat.
- [167:07]
Luke Lafreniere
Didn't he make it?
- [167:08]
Linus Sebastian
I don't know. Oh, yes. Wait, what are you doing? What are you trying to do to me?
- [167:14]
Dan
Obama giving Obama a medal?
- [167:16]
Linus Sebastian
Yeah, exactly.
- [167:17]
Luke Lafreniere
Good job.
- [167:17]
Dan
Good job, Obama.
- [167:18]
Luke Lafreniere
Yeah, guys, I was like, hold on a second.
- [167:23]
Dan
All right.
- [167:24]
Luke Lafreniere
Float plane is amazing. Perfect.
- [167:29]
Dan
The best flow plane. I've had your screwdriver for a year. Oh, no.
- [167:34]
Linus Sebastian
Is this true what someone said? Are you guys trolling me right now? Hold on. Are you guys trolling me right now? F car dude says you can only download Spin right on Firefox. There's no way that's true. You guys gotta be. You guys gotta be memeing on me. There's absolutely no way I wanna go see right now.
- [167:56]
Dan
Why did they troll us?
- [168:04]
Linus Sebastian
Walk through demo? No, they're always. They're trolling they're trolling. They're trolling. They're trolling. They're trolling. Okay, I'm, I'm ignoring you guys for a little bit. That was a good one. That was a good one. That was gonna. I. It's exactly, it is exactly the kind of thing that I could see just some meme ass developer being like, oh yeah. And doing.
- [168:27]
Luke Lafreniere
I. Oh yeah, we have to call it on the lab site. I know I've said it before on wan so I won't go through it.
- [168:32]
Dan
Again, but yeah, I've had your screwdriver for a year or so now and love it. And here's a question for Linus. I'm new to having a cat. How do you keep these young cats from tearing up furniture and your house, their strats.
- [168:46]
Linus Sebastian
You can try. Yeah, that helps. You can try like orange scents. I personally haven't found them that effective. You can try like fellow way like. Oh man, what's the like pheromone style, like calming things. I personally never found them that effective. And they're really expensive. We've found the most effective thing is to take the spots where they like to scratch stuff and just put something else there. So there's, there's spots on the carpet and there's like corners. Our house is just full of those cheap little like cardboard scratcher things that you can get on Amazon. The cats love them. They rip them up, but they're cheap. You just get a new one, whatever, and it's cardboard. You just throw it in their cycling. So who cares? The other big one is double sided tape. Clear, double sided, clear tape. If you put that on a vertical surface that they, that they go after, it'll grab on the fur on their paws and they don't, they don't like it. Yeah, they don't like it.
- [169:39]
Luke Lafreniere
Makes sense.
- [169:39]
Linus Sebastian
It'll get them out of the habit. Sometimes, sometimes there are just materials though that are just irresistible to them. And you're just going to have to get a different couch when that one is destroyed. That's just part of break that couch up. Fur. Fino asks, is declawing unethical? As we discussed earlier on the show, ethics and morals, different concepts. I, I think it is highly immoral. I think it is disgusting. If you understand what you are doing and you still go forward with it, I don't think we can ever be friends. Declawing a cat is not like, like just pulling the fingernail off of a human finger, which would already be bad enough. Decline. A cat is essentially Cutting off their finger at this knuckle. Never do that.
- [170:39]
Luke Lafreniere
I. I, like. I. I mean, I didn't know that. I'm not a cat person.
- [170:43]
Linus Sebastian
Decline is amputation.
- [170:45]
Luke Lafreniere
Yeah. That's brutal.
- [170:46]
Linus Sebastian
Yeah.
- [170:47]
Luke Lafreniere
What drives me nuts is when people clip bird wings. Super common.
- [170:52]
Linus Sebastian
Oh, interesting.
- [170:53]
Luke Lafreniere
Because they don't want them flying around their house, but they want to let them out of the cage. And it's easier to get them to, like, sit on you if you clip their wings so they can't fly away.
- [171:01]
Linus Sebastian
So my aunt used to always clip them a little so they could fly for a while, but then, like, they couldn't, like, take off.
- [171:08]
Luke Lafreniere
Yeah.
- [171:08]
Linus Sebastian
What would you. What would you say to that? I'm just that I'm curious.
- [171:10]
Luke Lafreniere
I don't know enough about that.
- [171:13]
Linus Sebastian
It doesn't hurt them. Just to be clear. It's just.
- [171:15]
Luke Lafreniere
Guys, I'm not saying it's the same. I'm not saying it's the same.
- [171:18]
Linus Sebastian
He's not saying it's the same.
- [171:19]
Luke Lafreniere
You're taking an animal that is, you know, you're not. You're not. It's. You're not amputating the wing of the bird or something like that, but you're taking an animal that is supposed to fly and has instincts to fly, and you're not allowing that. So it'll try and it'll flop over and it won't understand why it can't fly. And that's like, if you understand what's going on when it is confused about why it can't fly, like, that's depressing. I don't know. It's not. It's not the same thing as cutting a handoff or something like that. But it's like, it's pretty rough. I'm not a fan of it. I. I do think there are potentially some benefits to wing clipping at the very beginning so that they get used to, like, walking around on the floor and stuff and get comfortable with this, the. The ground space. So that if they do get, like, frightened and then fly around for too long and run out of gas before they get to a good landing spot and land on the ground, they're comfortable.
- [172:17]
Linus Sebastian
That's the thing a lot of people don't know is birds can't fly for, like, that long.
- [172:20]
Luke Lafreniere
Yeah.
- [172:20]
Linus Sebastian
They have, like, no energy reserves when.
- [172:23]
Luke Lafreniere
There'S no, like, drafts and stuff to keep them up. When it's just wing power. Yeah. They're going to gas out for sure.
- [172:28]
Linus Sebastian
Yeah. Alon asks, what about desexing? Also amputation. Right. By desexing. Do you mean like fixing and neutering? Spaying and neutering. I'm assuming they're. Right now, Miss and Panda are recovering from their spay and neuter operations. I am. I am fully spaying. New to your pets, people. Cats, dude, are literally an invasive species that is a threat to many other species, particularly birds. And we don't need more of them. We have enough of them. Spay and new to your pets, guys.
- [173:08]
Dan
How now? Dll cow took my commuter bag on its maiden voyage today.
- [173:12]
Linus Sebastian
How.
- [173:12]
Dan
When will you offer the titanium carabiners collection kit of the big backpack in the store so I can upgrade my commuter.
- [173:21]
Linus Sebastian
Oh, we weren't planning to. That's.
- [173:27]
Dan
I don't know.
- [173:27]
Linus Sebastian
It's kind of a cool idea because a lot of people didn't redeem them, so we, like, have a bunch of them. I think we're using some of them. It's called liability material. So, like, extras. I think we're using some of our liability carabiners for a cool, like, ultra, ultra lightweight jacket that stuffs up into one of the pockets and then you zip it and then it has like a carabiner so you can like clip it onto your backpack or whatever.
- [173:52]
Luke Lafreniere
That's. We're making one of those.
- [173:53]
Linus Sebastian
Yeah, that's. It's really nice.
- [173:55]
Luke Lafreniere
I had one for years and then it should have survived this. It is not her fault. It. Like on the website it says it should survive this, but Emma threw it in the. The washer and it just shredded it itself.
- [174:08]
Linus Sebastian
It's.
- [174:08]
Luke Lafreniere
It was very old.
- [174:09]
Linus Sebastian
It's super cool. So what it is is the, the, the pattern that's printed on it is the like, microscopic structure of some metal. I forget what it is, but it's like a metal that's relevant to like one of our. One of our longtime collaborators or something like that. I think it might be. It might be whatever metal framework uses in their chassis or something like that. Like, it's. I don't. I forget. Tatiana would know all the details.
- [174:33]
Luke Lafreniere
Sure. But it's got a cool pattern.
- [174:35]
Linus Sebastian
But it's got a really cool pattern. It looks really cool. It's not going to be cheap because it's like really lightweight but still really high performance material and stuff. But it's cool.
- [174:45]
Dan
Did you see anything on the technical side, when backstage or on set of the Jimmy Fallon show that you would like to adopt or integrate into the production of LTT videos?
- [174:54]
Luke Lafreniere
Question.
- [174:55]
Dan
What impressed you the most?
- [174:57]
Linus Sebastian
The thing that impressed me the most was just generally the smoothness. Like, there's monitors everywhere. The entire studio area is plumbed with the audio from the show. So everyone knows like what's going on. Which is like great for just situational awareness mostly. I'm not gonna lie. I didn't recognize most of the equipment that they were using. They're operating on a completely different level.
- [175:21]
Luke Lafreniere
Yeah.
- [175:22]
Linus Sebastian
And our sets are designed to be quickly, modularly, dynamically moved around. That is a permanent set.
- [175:30]
Dan
They do one thing.
- [175:32]
Linus Sebastian
Yeah. And they do it real good.
- [175:34]
Dan
It's a lot easier to do one.
- [175:36]
Linus Sebastian
Thing incredibly well, I'd say. The smoothness of everything. I was just super impressed by the team.
- [175:44]
Dan
Hi Wan dll. My first LTT video was Luke's great Geodude PC. After the Bulbasaur PC, what would you like to build next?
- [175:53]
Linus Sebastian
I'm not building it enough one anytime soon.
- [175:55]
Dan
I'd love to see a Magikarp or Gyarados theme in the thermaltake immersion case.
- [176:00]
Linus Sebastian
Okay. Now I'm tempted.
- [176:01]
Dan
Told you.
- [176:02]
Linus Sebastian
Told you. This will get you. You can't do the immersion thing because you don't want the liquid with the birds.
- [176:06]
Luke Lafreniere
Yeah, yeah.
- [176:07]
Dan
But you can have it at work.
- [176:08]
Linus Sebastian
No. With the IT department. Doesn't need to deal with that.
- [176:12]
Luke Lafreniere
With. With my roommate out, it could be more viable depending on where we end up situating things. But I would still probably want them to be somewhat. I don't know. Yeah, yeah.
- [176:23]
Dan
I'm thinking of upgrading my computer from a Ryzen 7 2700X but keeping my RTX 3080 since I only do 1440p. Or should I go all the marbles and get the new 50 series?
- [176:35]
Linus Sebastian
3,080 is still a really decent card. Here's the thing. Here's an answer that people don't give enough. Try it. How am I supposed to answer that question for you? Upgrade your CPU and your motherboard and run it and then see if you're happy with it because you're going to get a nice little performance uplift. And then if you're not happy with it, well, hey, this gives you a little bit of time. It's not like it's not usable. You can use your system with the 3080, play some games, and then when you're in a comfortable financial position to upgrade it, go for it. The good news is that with the way things are looking based on the pricing that Nvidia announced for the 50 series, 40 series and 30 series might continue to hold their value pretty okay. So.
- [177:19]
Luke Lafreniere
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- [177:20]
Linus Sebastian
Go for it.
- [177:21]
Luke Lafreniere
Yeah. Honestly, 3880s are still beast they're still decent. Yeah.
- [177:26]
Linus Sebastian
The only reason that I'm upgrading mine is like, because I can. And like I really want a new one, which is. And that's fine.
- [177:33]
Luke Lafreniere
It's not rational enough. Yeah.
- [177:35]
Linus Sebastian
It's not rational though. Also I have a, like I have a 480Hz monitor on my desk right now. Or 500. Whatever, whatever. The last like Asus.
- [177:42]
Luke Lafreniere
The only thing that really has me interested in the, in the 50 series stuff is the AI capabilities for non gaming things. That's. That's very interesting. But as far as games go, like, I don't know, especially if you're turning on the technologies that they, they want you to, then it's like, I don't.
- [178:01]
Linus Sebastian
Know, 4080 is pretty freaking fast if you turn on like frame gen. Yeah.
- [178:06]
Luke Lafreniere
And even if you don't, if, if you have a 4080, like, you're crushing everything anyways. I don't know.
- [178:10]
Linus Sebastian
Yeah. And you're 4080, right?
- [178:12]
Luke Lafreniere
Yeah.
- [178:12]
Linus Sebastian
Yeah. Okay.
- [178:13]
Dan
Luke, I'll give you compute time on mine.
- [178:16]
Linus Sebastian
Are you buying one?
- [178:18]
Dan
I. I would like to. I think this, this year is the time I get a founders obviously completely irrational purchase. I just kind of want one.
- [178:29]
Luke Lafreniere
It's a meme, especially with Nick, but it's a meme with the Labs team that was down at ces. How much I think the, the dual flow through fans are so freaking cool.
- [178:38]
Dan
And it's a two slot. I want it because it's a two slot. It's super cool. It's a founders. I want one for the AI stuff. I've already got many expensive GPUs.
- [178:48]
Luke Lafreniere
Founders is amazing.
- [178:50]
Dan
Save Luke money.
- [178:51]
Linus Sebastian
Riddle me this, Dan.
- [178:52]
Dan
You can have compute.
- [178:53]
Linus Sebastian
What are you going to install in your other PCIe slots now that you've freed them up?
- [178:57]
Dan
Well, I have dual slot.
- [178:59]
Linus Sebastian
Really?
- [179:00]
Dan
I have seven on the other one. Well, and it can't. I can barely fit my NVMe PCI, my card, or my USB card, but it does fit. Yeah. It's like touching the fans. I want a smaller computer. Like, I've already said, it's not a reasonable like purchase. None of the third parties are going to do two slots.
- [179:25]
Luke Lafreniere
So.
- [179:25]
Dan
Yeah.
- [179:26]
Linus Sebastian
All right.
- [179:27]
Dan
I don't have to defend myself because it's a stupid purchase.
- [179:31]
Linus Sebastian
That's fair. I mean, if you take a lot of the wind out of the sails of your detractors, if you're just like, I am making a bad decision.
- [179:38]
Luke Lafreniere
Yeah.
- [179:39]
Linus Sebastian
I am doing so knowingly and willfully.
- [179:42]
Dan
I'm doing this for joy, not because it's smart.
- [179:45]
Luke Lafreniere
I just, I think, you know, you know that thing I was talking to you about like a long time ago when I started laying out predictions for AI stuff and I was like, companies are going to have effectively like mainframes again on prem. Yeah, that's like happening big. Oh right now. And part of it is like I don't want to fall behind. So like what my job is. I like I'm not. No, I'm not going to try to expense one in my personal computer. Don't worry about it.
- [180:13]
Linus Sebastian
Yeah, you aren't.
- [180:13]
Luke Lafreniere
But I, part of me is like I need to start working with like local AI systems more. I've been very aware of them.
- [180:21]
Linus Sebastian
Maybe what we should have been doing that much is we should build like a local AI community compute machine everyone can kind of share time on and we'll just like put it in the lab, in the lab server room and like is. Would that be kind of a helpful solution? Potentially?
- [180:33]
Luke Lafreniere
Yeah, yeah, we've been talking about it especially with like, that'd be a cool.
- [180:35]
Linus Sebastian
Video, whatever it's called.
- [180:36]
Luke Lafreniere
Digits. Yeah, that was an idea too. Like do we get a digits?
- [180:40]
Linus Sebastian
I think we should get at least one. Yeah, I'm looking at that. I'm not that convinced. For three grand I'm not that convinced you couldn't just build a three thousand dollar tower and put a freaking fifty ninety in it.
- [180:50]
Luke Lafreniere
We try to see which one's more viable.
- [180:52]
Dan
Do you want to play with mine?
- [180:53]
Linus Sebastian
Yeah, well, part of it's also the RAM being able to.
- [180:58]
Luke Lafreniere
Yep.
- [180:59]
Linus Sebastian
Sorry, what was that, Dan?
- [181:00]
Dan
Do you want to play with mine as like a test run? Because that's what I built.
- [181:03]
Linus Sebastian
What a thing to say. If we didn't have the context for it. Context really does matter, doesn't it?
- [181:09]
Luke Lafreniere
Wait, what do you mean?
- [181:11]
Linus Sebastian
Well, because I asked if you want to play with his, you want to play with mine, do you want to play with his, do you want to play with Dan's?
- [181:16]
Luke Lafreniere
I built a mule, but I'm talking Blackwell.
- [181:21]
Dan
No, Well, I mean I will if you want. I'll put the 5090 in it. But I was kind of hoping that.
- [181:27]
Luke Lafreniere
How many? How many? This is one question I have, Dan. It's how many 50 90s.
- [181:31]
Dan
One.
- [181:32]
Luke Lafreniere
Are you sure? Yes. How many 4,090s do you have, Dan?
- [181:35]
Dan
One.
- [181:35]
Linus Sebastian
Oh, how many 4,090s did you have, Dan? What do you mean did Just that. So. Oh, wait, was it 30 90s you had a bunch of.
- [181:43]
Dan
Don't ask.
- [181:44]
Luke Lafreniere
How many 30 90s did you have? Dan 3 why?
- [181:48]
Dan
And two 2080 ti because you can get them super cheap when they're abused by. By mining and barely run and then will continue to be a bruise. I don't know what does that even.
- [182:01]
Linus Sebastian
Mean in the context of a gpu? What? The fan is broken? Like, what are we even talking about?
- [182:05]
Dan
Yeah, you're right.
- [182:06]
Luke Lafreniere
People keep asking what's digits? It's. It's this Nvidia project. Digits. It's this little thing right here.
- [182:15]
Linus Sebastian
Yeah, it's a little like. It looks kind of like a Mac mini.
- [182:18]
Luke Lafreniere
It's golden. Because of course it is.
- [182:20]
Linus Sebastian
ARM CPUs and, and grace Blackwell. So it's a Grace Blackwell. Sorry, Grace cpu Blackwell gpu. Yeah.
- [182:30]
Luke Lafreniere
Yeah.
- [182:31]
Linus Sebastian
Cool.
- [182:32]
Luke Lafreniere
Yeah, that's what it is.
- [182:34]
Linus Sebastian
Basically. It's a. It's a. It's a dev platform.
- [182:36]
Luke Lafreniere
AI dev box.
- [182:37]
Linus Sebastian
Yeah.
- [182:37]
Luke Lafreniere
Yeah. But yeah, I mean, Nick in the lab has shown a lot of interest in this type of stuff. Yeah, it's like clearly where things are kind of headed and I need to not fall behind.
- [182:52]
Dan
So you're welcome to time on my box. That's why I built Dan.
- [183:01]
Linus Sebastian
Holy, dude.
- [183:03]
Dan
Well, okay. We shot a video recently and I called it by its actual name. So.
- [183:09]
Linus Sebastian
Next merge message.
- [183:11]
Dan
It's Braincube. We worked on it together when we did a company event.
- [183:15]
Luke Lafreniere
No, it's the naming. It's what you called it.
- [183:19]
Dan
My child. I'm sorry. Longtime listener, first time merch messenger. My work involves optimization for manufacturing and logistics. Can you share any insights on how LMG and CW plans and manages these fields keep being awesome?
- [183:33]
Linus Sebastian
Nope. And the answer is I just don't know. I don't do much on the operations side these days. And as far as Creator Warehouse, we hired Patrick, who I used to work with at ncix, to be our third party logistics company. So Nick obviously or like Dave from the CW team would coordinate with Patrick or whatever, but I only see Patrick every once in a while to be like, how's it going, Chris? Pi5 thanks for your business, you know, thanks for your partnership. Yeah, sorry guys, I don't. I don't have much to contribute there.
- [184:12]
Dan
Linus came across the 10 years of gaming PCs vid. Yeah, I loved how it cataloged the history of each era. Do you think creating a series that contextualizes PC history through each hardware generation is worth it?
- [184:24]
Linus Sebastian
I think that sounds like an enormous super cool project and it's exactly the kind of thing that I would love to put in like, you know, the, the LTT Tech Museum or something like that. Like I, I, I kind of, I. Okay. I don't want anybody to get excited about this, but it's, it's on a dock of like potential business ideas, you know, or potential future ideas. In all likelihood, that is, that is not going anywhere. But it was something that I thought would be really cool because it would both act as a, as a funnel to, to create ideas for content and it would be somewhere for us to put some of the stuff that we create for content where people could actually interact with it and enjoy it. Like we. Oh, we did such a cool video this week. Week. Have you seen the all in one gaming tv?
- [185:18]
Luke Lafreniere
No.
- [185:19]
Linus Sebastian
Okay. No. Well, you were not going to find it. We shot it this week.
- [185:24]
Luke Lafreniere
Oh yeah. Definitely not then.
- [185:26]
Linus Sebastian
All right, let's see if I can find an early version of sort of taking this idea and doing something with it when we just didn't have the resources or the time to do what we did this week. I'm trying to find it and it's so hard to search for things on YouTube these days. I will be the first to admit that the way we title our videos doesn't always help, but it is also really, really hard to search for stuff. Anyway, we did a video, we basically said, okay, hear me out. What if TVs didn't really need to be that much thinner and what if it would be cooler if we just packed like way more features into them. We put like giant speakers in them and we like integrated all this stuff. So we built it, we bought, you remember those old rear projection TVs from like the mid 2000s. We bought one a Sony. We ripped everything out. We gutted it. In its place, we put a brand new OLED panel.
- [186:33]
Luke Lafreniere
Okay, yeah, yeah.
- [186:35]
Linus Sebastian
We put a top of the line gaming PC. We put a PlayStation 5. We put a Wii U and we put a switch, including exterior access to the switch and in the front, the little hinge to access like the front video, we cut all that out, we put the Wii U there. So you pull down the little thing, there's your Wii U boom disc. The whole thing is completely sealed up. So it's like the sleeper gaming tv. It's so cool.
- [187:06]
Luke Lafreniere
We use underrated. Honestly, when I saw the bigger switch, the first thing I thought was I hope it feels more like the Wii U controller did because the Wii U controller was like amazing.
- [187:16]
Linus Sebastian
Yeah, so it's, it's a great video. Alex, Justin and Sebastian actually from CW out did themselves and it is almost looks factory good. Like the tv, like the fit, like it's so. Oh, it's so good.
- [187:33]
Luke Lafreniere
That's pretty sick.
- [187:34]
Linus Sebastian
It looks so unnatural and out of place. I recorded a clip. I don't know if it's gonna make it into the edit, but I was talking about how it looks. It looks like it's. It looks like it's screen replaced. Like, in real life. It looks like they rotoscoped out whatever was on and, like, put content in in post. Like, it just. It looks unnatural naturally. Good. So cool.
- [187:56]
Luke Lafreniere
That's pretty wild.
- [187:57]
Linus Sebastian
Why are we you asks Black Raven.
- [187:59]
Luke Lafreniere
Because it's amazing.
- [188:00]
Linus Sebastian
Yeah, because it. It's like the ultimate emulation box. It can do it natively. Plays. What is it? Two. Two generations plus. Even more with the. If you've bought stuff in the. In, like, the Retro store, which I forget what it's called. Wii U Shop or whatever. Plus you can put, like, homebrew firmware on it and run a whole bunch of other systems as well. It has native support for the GameCube controller. It has, like. Man, it's. Dude, it's sick. It's. It's actually a sick console. Also, it does have a PS5 in it as well. So Switch, Wii U, PS5, and PC. We didn't have an Xbox because we have a PC. So what do you need Xbox for if you have a, like, sick gaming PC?
- [188:41]
Luke Lafreniere
Yep.
- [188:42]
Dan
Linus, how do you feel about the S2 going back to the LCD screen?
- [188:48]
Linus Sebastian
What? Sorry.
- [188:49]
Dan
I think that's the Switch two, maybe.
- [188:52]
Linus Sebastian
Is that true? We didn't talk about that. I don't think. Is that. Is that final? Is that finalized? Is that.
- [188:58]
Luke Lafreniere
No idea.
- [188:58]
Linus Sebastian
Confirmed.
- [188:59]
Dan
Oh, it might be the Galaxy S2.
- [189:01]
Linus Sebastian
No.
- [189:01]
Dan
What is this?
- [189:03]
Linus Sebastian
Must be Switch 2. Is this a thing?
- [189:05]
Luke Lafreniere
I don't know.
- [189:06]
Linus Sebastian
See, people are saying definitely not confirmed. I'll be disappointed. I'll be disappointed. The OLED Switch looks so good. So good. I hope not. All right.
- [189:21]
Dan
Thank you for restocking the Pet cave. Do your pets have nicknames? My cat's nickname has overtaken, and she only gets called by her actual name when she's getting scolded. Shout out to Melody, AKA the Poot.
- [189:32]
Linus Sebastian
Yeah. Oh, definitely. They have so many nicknames, so why don't I start with Dash? Dashie Doodoo.
- [189:42]
Luke Lafreniere
I think every pet has the nickname of its name, but with E on it.
- [189:47]
Linus Sebastian
My chonky girl. She does the thing where she, like, eats defensively, so she's gotten territorial about the food, so she tries to eat it all. So she's a little on the. She's a little on the chunkier side. And then what else we've got. What are all my cats? Okay, we got Brownie. So we also call him Brown Boy. Boo. Boo. So they all have like the first letter of their name. Nicknames. And then we got Noodle, so he has Nunu. And also Nudes. That's my vet. I blame my vet for that.
- [190:26]
Luke Lafreniere
Okay.
- [190:27]
Linus Sebastian
Hey, Nudes. Anyway, and then the new ones. Panda, Pandy, Poo Poo. My kids call them the. I don't. I don't. I don't use those. And then I accidentally call them Oreo every once in a while because that was the other candidate name. And then Mischief usually goes by Miss or Missy or Moomoo if the kids are talking to her there. All pet nicknames confirmed.
- [190:58]
Dan
Call my aunt Stinky.
- [191:02]
Linus Sebastian
You call your Aunt. Sorry. Like, okay.
- [191:05]
Dan
Cat, Car.
- [191:07]
Luke Lafreniere
Our two birds are Scoop and Wally. And then our foundling is Nixie. That's it. No nicknames, Just variants of that. Nixie's a little hard to do. Variants of it already sounds like a variant. Scoop, Scooby, whatever. I don't know.
- [191:28]
Linus Sebastian
Scoop.
- [191:29]
Dan
Scoop. Who got to choose the Fallon Walk on music?
- [191:33]
Linus Sebastian
I was as surprised as anyone. Did you notice?
- [191:36]
Luke Lafreniere
No.
- [191:37]
Linus Sebastian
They played the Peanuts theme song. Really? Yeah, you could. It's a. It's an older reference, but it checks out.
- [191:43]
Luke Lafreniere
Yeah.
- [191:43]
Dan
Yeah. I wonder who's jogging.
- [191:46]
Luke Lafreniere
Did you have no idea until you're walking out?
- [191:47]
Linus Sebastian
Yeah.
- [191:48]
Luke Lafreniere
Wow.
- [191:48]
Linus Sebastian
I'm going to be honest with you. I didn't notice. I only noticed it when I watched it back and someone pointed it out to me. I don't even think I noticed it when I watched it back. I was like, dude, I was hopped up on so much adrenaline, I had no idea what was going on.
- [192:05]
Luke Lafreniere
I believe it.
- [192:06]
Linus Sebastian
I can be a stressed out boy sometimes. I heard nothing when I walked out. Yeah.
- [192:15]
Luke Lafreniere
Yeah.
- [192:16]
Dan
Hey, Linus and Luke. I'm part of a high school robotics club and we're working on getting funding for our team to purchase new machining tools. Do you have any advice on getting tech sponsorships?
- [192:25]
Linus Sebastian
Dude, it's tough. Like, I don't want to tell you to spam anybody, but I do want to tell you to, you know, reach out broadly. I want to tell you to maybe.
- [192:37]
Luke Lafreniere
Some modern tools that can help you with that.
- [192:42]
Linus Sebastian
Make it personal, you know, ex lead with. Okay, here's a big one. Demonstrate that there is some chance that you guys are going to do something useful. So show receipts for other really cool stuff that you or your teammates have done. I would say that is a really big one that stands out to us. Cohen, Lemon. Really good advice. Start local. Like actually walk, knock on doors. That can be a really good idea as well.
- [193:12]
Dan
Any thoughts on the max?
- [193:14]
Linus Sebastian
More for money than tech sponsorships because, like, I don't know, Texas Instruments might not be in your town. Okay.
- [193:20]
Dan
Any thoughts on the max bandwidth that will ever be needed per person? You have discussed this before, but it has only been a couple years and I'm wondering if there's anything lately that would drive it up.
- [193:29]
Linus Sebastian
It's less that I think there's a max bandwidth that we need per person, per se. Like, I know we have talked about how there is kind of a max conceivable bandwidth per person is assuming that, you know, beyond 8k never really happens because it's irrelevant to humans outside of like VR applications where you're like stretching it way over the entire field of view. I like streaming with low latency encoding at extremely high bit rates in the future. Like, I don't know, conceivably like more bandwidth. But I think you're talking about Internet bandwidth. For me, it's less that I think there's a limit to how much bandwidth we could use. Like, I wouldn't mind downloading Black Myth Wukong in five seconds. Sure, yeah, bring it on. But there are cost and point of diminishing returns, points that are practical obstacles to that ever really happening. Like companies that provide the bandwidth that they provide at the speed that they provide it essentially for free. Like Steam doesn't get paid more for that game you bought if they give you faster download speeds. It's basically.
- [194:42]
Luke Lafreniere
They did get paid 30% for that game though.
- [194:44]
Linus Sebastian
Yes, but it's.
- [194:45]
Luke Lafreniere
It's basically so they'd be making fat stacks.
- [194:48]
Linus Sebastian
It's at their discretion though how much download bandwidth they determine they wish to give you. And so I just, I haven't seen other than game downloads. I haven't seen any and other big downloads. I haven't really seen a practical use for much beyond, you know, two and a half gig. But I know, I know Jake is like amped that one of our local carriers is moving to I think either 5 or 10 gig to the whole.
- [195:13]
Luke Lafreniere
Just said in chat, I'm getting Telus 5 gig next week.
- [195:15]
Linus Sebastian
Yeah, there you go.
- [195:16]
Dan
I'm so jealous.
- [195:17]
Linus Sebastian
Yeah, there you go. But I don't know what he's gonna do with. Okay, know what he's going to do with it, but I'm not going to talk about what he's going to do with it. All right. What's next.
- [195:26]
Dan
We know, we know. Hey, LLD Linus. I want to upgrade my first serious badminton gear.
- [195:31]
Linus Sebastian
What?
- [195:31]
Dan
Do you have any recommendations or tips with buying shoes, rackets or shuttlecocks, etc.
- [195:35]
Linus Sebastian
As with any time you buy shoes, buy shoes that fit you. That's the most important thing. As for a racket, a lot of places will let you trial them. Whether it's friends or other members in the badminton community, people are super friendly. If you see something you like, say, hey, can I, Can I play? You know, five points with it. People are often very, very friendly. If you are also friendly. As for shuttles, man, are they ever getting affordable? Dude, I should have invested in badminton shuttles.
- [196:02]
Luke Lafreniere
Because they're getting more affordable?
- [196:03]
Linus Sebastian
No, because they're getting more expensive.
- [196:05]
Luke Lafreniere
Oh, dude, if I just said affordable.
- [196:07]
Linus Sebastian
No, no. Unaffordable. Sorry, sorry. I meant to say unaffordable. Dude, they're. They're wild. They're wild, dude. Try and find something you can afford.
- [196:16]
Luke Lafreniere
Wait, if you're at badminton center now, is that good for you?
- [196:19]
Linus Sebastian
No. Oh, our costs go up.
- [196:21]
Luke Lafreniere
But don't you charge more?
- [196:23]
Linus Sebastian
Yeah, but like, there's a limit. Like a tube. A Tube of Yonex as 50s is like 70 Canadian dollars retail now or something like that. Like, it's wild. There's 12 shuttles in there. You miss, hit one shot and you spent like, what's that work at? Like $8 or. No, no, not. Not $8. Like five bucks though. Like 550.
- [196:44]
Luke Lafreniere
That's rough.
- [196:45]
Linus Sebastian
Yeah, that's crazy.
- [196:47]
Dan
Can we collect Luke's bird feathers and make mini ones?
- [196:51]
Linus Sebastian
No, wait, no, it's more than that. Hold on.
- [196:54]
Luke Lafreniere
Their feathers are very small.
- [196:55]
Linus Sebastian
Yeah, you have like little.
- [196:57]
Dan
Yeah, you play with like spoons.
- [197:00]
Luke Lafreniere
It would also take forever.
- [197:03]
Linus Sebastian
Oh, I was pretty close.
- [197:08]
Dan
Would you guys please consider publishing the source model files like the Fusion or solidworks for the prints? I can work with the models directly, but having this saves me a bit of time in some cases.
- [197:19]
Linus Sebastian
That's a good question. I am not the most experienced when it comes to things like 3D modeling. So I have to assume that the team made the decision that they made for reasons. That is a very reasonable way of asking though, and I would love to. Can we forward that to who's on point for this?
- [197:39]
Dan
Okay, I'll discuss it with the team on Monday.
- [197:42]
Linus Sebastian
Thank you. Yes, thanks.
- [197:45]
Dan
Hey, linus, how's the SV650 doing?
- [197:48]
Linus Sebastian
Great. And how dare you ask me? Not great. I primed a bunch of stuff and I have some runs, so. I need to go and send them back down. And then I am so stressed because the fact that I'm having such a hard time putting the primer on evenly really does not bode well for the translucent. For my second attempt at the translucent layer, I'm just. It's hard and I will do my. It's, it's, it. Everything is shaped so funky. If I was painting the hood of a car or something. Huh? Easy. But there's so many facets and so many different angles and little crevices and. Ugh.
- [198:27]
Dan
Will the magnetic chest strap for LTD backpack work with the commuter bag?
- [198:41]
Luke Lafreniere
It's an add on, isn't it?
- [198:42]
Linus Sebastian
Yeah.
- [198:43]
Luke Lafreniere
Yeah. Oh, he has both bags here. Do you have one of the magnetic straps?
- [198:49]
Linus Sebastian
No.
- [198:50]
Luke Lafreniere
You're checking if the attachment points are the same?
- [198:52]
Linus Sebastian
Yes. They appear to be the same, but I would double check with support.
- [199:01]
Luke Lafreniere
Yeah.
- [199:01]
Linus Sebastian
There does not appear to be any reason why you wouldn't be able to put the magnetic chest strap on the commuter bag.
- [199:10]
Dan
That's all I got.
- [199:12]
Linus Sebastian
Well, then that's all I got. Thank you guys very much. Coming back to how we started the show today for your support, for being a part of a positive part of this community and we appreciate you all. We'll see you again next week. Same bad time, same bad channel.
- [199:32]
Luke Lafreniere
Bye.