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Linus Sebastian
This episode is brought to you by Dutch Bros. Big smiles, rocking tunes and epic drinks. Dutch Bros is all about you. Choose from a variety of customizable handcrafted beverages like our Rebel energy drinks, coffees, teas and more. Download the Dutch Bros app for a free medium drink. Plus find your nearest shop, order ahead and start earning rewards offer valid for new app users only. Free medium drink Reward upon registration, 14 day expiration terms apply. See DutchBros.com what's up everyone? Welcome to the WAN Show. Hello. Bit of a downer week this week. Gordon Ma, legendary PC hardware journalist, has. Excuse me, Gordon Ma un has. Has passed away at 58. So we'll be talking a little bit about that. His family's got to go fund me because, you know, late stage healthcare in America can be real challenging. So that's a real downer. We'll also be talking about the Honey controversy that broke this week. Turns out Honey has been doing some stuff that is not sweet. What else we got this week?
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Luke Lafreniere
We're talking about Linus on Colin and Samir and we're going to talk about a favorite moments of 2024.
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Linus Sebastian
Oh, well, that sounds at least good.
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Luke Lafreniere
Yeah.
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Linus Sebastian
Oh. The show is brought to you by JumpCloud, MSI and. Oh, sorry, I got totally bamboozled by myself. Boot.dev.boot.dev Right. And of course it's brought to you by our chair partner, Secretlab, our skin partner, dbrand, and our laptop partner, LG. So why don't we jump right into Mr. Mr. Gordon. Unfortunately, I suck at professional networking and while I did have the privilege of meeting Gordon on a number of occasions, we weren't particularly close. But it's a funny thing because, you know, just like anyone else that I kind of cut my teeth. Go away. Phone buzzing in the mic. Anyone else that I kind of cut my tech teeth reading, you know, the Ryan Trouts and the Nan Lal Shimpies of the world. You know, Gordon means more to me than I probably did to him.
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Luke Lafreniere
Right, yeah.
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Linus Sebastian
You know, yeah, yeah. Like we did a video a little while ago building a maximum PC dream PC from when I was in high school. Like that. That was Gordon's jam, right?
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Luke Lafreniere
Those.
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Linus Sebastian
Yeah, yeah. So I'm going to. I'm going to read the thing that our team prepared just because that makes it a little bit easier. Gordon, executive editor of PC World, passed away at 58. Which. Sorry, I'm already going off script. Seriously, 58? Like 58 is the new 48. Honestly. And it seems way too, way too soon.
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Luke Lafreniere
Yeah.
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Linus Sebastian
After a battle with pancreatic cancer. Insert obligatory cancer. I don't care how early it is in the video. Apparently beeping too early in the video is bad for the algorithm, but I think we can make an exception here.
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Luke Lafreniere
Yeah.
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Linus Sebastian
A pioneering figure in tech journalism, Gordon had over 25 years of experience, particularly in covering computer hardware and, and chips. He was known for his investigative rigor, sharp wit and strong personality, which resonated with both his colleagues and the tech community. Gordon's career began in journalism as a police reporter for the Contra Costa Times. In 1997 he would join Computer World and later Maximum PC where he became famous for his passionate, often humorous commentary and deep technical expertise. He was the driving force behind Maximum PC's Dream Machine project and its consumer advocacy column, Watchdog Lincoln. Later, Gordon joined PC World where he continued his in depth coverage of PC hardware. He began his foray into video with Hardcore Hardware series and the full Nerd podcast. He was actually shockingly good on camera for one of the traditional like written people like he.
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Luke Lafreniere
That was not a given.
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Linus Sebastian
I can't. No. Oh, it was not a given like multi talented guy. It's very few people that made that switch. But he seemed as natural on camera as he was on a written page, which is pretty incredible. Parky in the chat says, never heard of him. I guess I'm too zoomer. I promise you that you've read something.
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Luke Lafreniere
Gordon wrote or read something influenced by.
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Linus Sebastian
Yep, Gordon, I, I, I promise you. And the reason for that is that so much so many of the formats, so many of the, of, of the styles that were started while he was there have become just commonplace. It's kind of like saying, yeah, I've never, oh man. I'm trying to think of like, of like a, a really like a trend setting movie or show or something like that. It's okay. It's like saying, yeah, I've never seen a bit from I Love Lucy. It's like you have, you just don't know it. Because all the characters were recast and the script was retooled slightly. But like Lucille Ball was a, was a trendsetter. Yeah. Anyway, Gordon's work and legacy in the tech journalism space, marked by both his technical know how and larger than life Persona, earned him widespread respect and admiration. Can confirm Gordon was committed until the very end. Publishing video hardware reviews as recently as November 6th during the end of his treatment.
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Luke Lafreniere
Wow.
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Linus Sebastian
I give you my personal line of Sebastian, promise that I will not be working up until a couple of months before my passing. If I find out that I have a serious illness, I will piece so fast that you guys won't even remember I was ever here. That is an un. Believable level of commitment and, and actually super admirable because you have to, you have to know that anyone who you know stays at it is fighting hard.
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Luke Lafreniere
Oh yeah.
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Linus Sebastian
You know, having that, having that confidence that things are going to be normal.
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Luke Lafreniere
Someday and just pushing for his family, I'm sure.
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Linus Sebastian
Yeah. If you'd like to hear more about, about Gordon, there's pages. There's a page full of heartfelt tributes on PC World as well as lovely videos from tech tech potato, aka Dr. Ian Cutrest, who is one of the, one of the folks that I grew up reading a lot as well, as well as gamers Nexus. There's a whole bunch of discussion topics here, but I think that the best thing to do right now. Dan, can you go ahead and get the GoFundMe linked in the, in the chat? Let's just hurry up. I'm just, I'm just looking at this for the first time. This is actually incredible. Massive shout out to the community for stepping up here. Why don't we just finish it off? But there's no reason that you can't exceed a goal. So Dan, can I just give you the company card and can you do that off camera?
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Dan
Absolutely.
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Linus Sebastian
Okay, thank you. It's the one that I am kind of pulling out here. No, that's this one. I don't know. You'll find it. Thanks, Dan. Whoa. AC3 Productions says Falcon Northwest donated 25 000.
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Luke Lafreniere
They did, yeah.
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Linus Sebastian
Massive shout out. Kel. What an.
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Luke Lafreniere
Absolutely on too.
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Linus Sebastian
What an absolute. Chad Kelt's super cool. He's the kind of person who, as far as I can tell, doesn't really need to. Doesn't really need to like. Oh, sorry. Oh, yeah, yeah, go ahead and use that one. That's fine. Thanks. Dan Kelt's the kind of person that, as far as I can tell, doesn't really need to like build gaming systems anymore if he doesn't really feel like it. I wish I'd gotten to. I wish I'd gotten to know Gordon better. I, I am, like I said, I'm terrible at networking and I have a tendency to just go to trade shows and stuff and just go completely head down in my work and it's stuff like this that makes me kind of regret that.
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Luke Lafreniere
Yeah.
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Linus Sebastian
Did you get a chance to meet him at least?
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Luke Lafreniere
I met him twice.
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Linus Sebastian
Yeah. Okay, just. Just finish it off. They have A goal. Let's just make sure they hit it. Yeah.
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Luke Lafreniere
Yeah.
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Linus Sebastian
All right, well, on that note, why don't we. Why don't we move on to sort of the other. The other heavy topic for this week, which is, of course, Honey. So first of all, big shout out to Mega Leg for. For the work that was done reporting on what Honey and actual parent company PayPal has been up to with respect to. This is truly a very professional podcast. Video podcast, whatever this thing is. Thank you for that, Luke.
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Luke Lafreniere
Yeah.
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Linus Sebastian
Since when are you the comic relief? Your job is to laugh at the comic relief or the laugh timely alarms.
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Luke Lafreniere
I think that's my only standard alarm for this week that I didn't pause for the week week because I was out.
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Linus Sebastian
Right.
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Luke Lafreniere
That's my, like, leave for WAN show alarm.
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Linus Sebastian
And then WAN show was early because I have a flight to catch. Brilliant. Yeah. So massive shout out to Megaleg for the work that he put into digging into what exactly Honey's been doing. So I've got a few things to kind of discuss. First of all, the only point from Mega Legs video that we were aware of three years ago when we halted our Honey sponsorship was the affiliate code ripping. We heard about that from some tweets, like this one from Barnacles. We also saw it covered on our own forum. There we go. So there was. That was not. That was not really news, that part of it. But you know, obviously as creators, we saw that and we were like, hey, that's not really cool. Yeah, but we didn't really. We didn't really think that other than, you know, any creator friends, that it was something that impacted the general consumer. So it wasn't something that really merited a full video or anything like that.
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Luke Lafreniere
Done.
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Linus Sebastian
Okay, thanks, Dan. Were you. Were you live for that? They heard you or no? Oh, okay. Dan said, yeah, he's done and the goal is done. But guys, please. I'm sure that the goal is really helpful, but I'm sure that any. Any little bits could. Any little bits could. Could help.
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Luke Lafreniere
Yeah, I don't think GoFundMe looks like it's real time, so we'll have to wait a sec for that to come through.
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Linus Sebastian
Okay. Thanks, Dan. Okay. Anyway, affiliate code ripping bad affects creators, doesn't affect the end user. We. We were not the only ones who knew about the scam, though. Here's a video from 2020. I actually didn't watch this one, but I don't know. The whole thing for me with this is that Mega Leg did reach out to us for Comment and my general position on it was, yeah, we, we dropped these guys three years ago. This all came out like the, the affiliate ripping stuff. Everything we knew about came out years ago. I'm very interested to see the video on all the other stuff. I don't really know what exactly it has to do with us. I am a little confused at still as to what exactly it has to do with us. Anyway, back when we dropped Honey, we had a call with their executive team. It was clear that they had no intention to revise their business model away from the affiliate code ripping. So we decided to end our sponsorship agreement with them. If we'd known about any of the more end user centric issues discussed in Mega Leg's video, such as purposely not giving users the best deal possible because of behind the scenes partnerships with companies, we very probably would have raised more alarm bells. But we had no reason at that time to believe that Honey was anything other than what it claimed to be, which was a coupon finding service that took an affiliate cut. Many in the industry stopped working with Honey without an LTT video being made. So I think that one characterization of this whole situation that like the only ones that knew that like we knew and didn't tell anybody is bizarre.
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Luke Lafreniere
We were publicly informed by other people and acted on it.
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Linus Sebastian
Also we publicly posted on our forum that we dropped them and gave the reason for it.
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Luke Lafreniere
We've also never really been like. People have tried to draw parallels between this and Yuffie, but Eufy is a tech company that had huge end user problems.
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Linus Sebastian
Yes.
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Luke Lafreniere
Like this, this is, that's a totally, that's something that we do. That is something that we have done always.
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Linus Sebastian
And Yuffie had implications like immediately, right now for user privacy.
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Luke Lafreniere
Yeah.
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Linus Sebastian
Whereas Honey, it's, it's in, in some ways it's like more insidious, but in other ways it's, it's less immediately damaging than like, hey, an unencrypted feed of like every camera that our company has sold. Like that's, there's, there's bad and then there's like really, really, really, really, really bad.
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Luke Lafreniere
And also in our realm.
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Linus Sebastian
As for Karma, why we took a sponsorship from Karma, they assured us that they didn't do any link yoinking, which when we tested it seemed to be true. Uh, we only worked with them once. We did four sponsor spots on three videos and then I guess didn't work with them anymore. Um, as for the landing page that uses our likeness to promote Honey, we no longer have any direct contacts that are working there. But we're working to have the page removed. Hopefully we can. Speaking of, EUFY Anchor still uses our likeness. And with these really large and in some cases overseas companies, it can be very difficult to get stuff like that fixed. Ike's Orange says Linus. People think that because the video sort of implies that only you knew. So people are misinterpreting that. I mean, I think. I don't think it sort of implies. I think our prominent featuring in the video leads people there. I. I don't really understand that. I don't really. I don't really. I don't really get the emphasis on us, to be honest with you. I don't really. I don't really know what people are expecting me to say about it other than, yeah, we. We, like, heard about it in the news, same as apparently basically everyone else, given how many folks stopped working with them in the 20. 20, 2021 time frame. And. Yeah, yeah, cool. Sea Surfer says it's also arguable that LTT was by far the largest channel and thus had the platform to motivate wider change. It's arguable. It's very difficult to argue. I mean, given that Mr. Beast was the number one honey promoter. I think that if you were to make the argument that LTT is bigger than Mr. Beast, then not only would that be a difficult argument, you'd be kind of a idiot. So, like, I. I don't know, dude, cool. Should we move on? Like, I don't really.
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Luke Lafreniere
I don't. I don't have a ton else to say on this. I think, like, I. Yeah, honestly, when I was, when I was. I watched the video and I remembered us dropping Honey. Didn't particularly remember the reasons after some people brought up the. The old video that you had mentioned. Yeah, and a couple other things. I like, vaguely remembered that. But I wasn't really a part of video stuff at that time.
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Linus Sebastian
So, like, I don't know this.
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Luke Lafreniere
I don't know.
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Linus Sebastian
The situation's bizarre, dude. Like, I am a victim here.
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Luke Lafreniere
I was surprised by.
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Linus Sebastian
I don't know if people noticed that. Yeah, like, as a creator for whom affiliate revenue from Amazon was in 20, 27% of our business team's revenue. Like, this had a significant impact on our business. And absolutely, it would have impacted other creators too. And they are victims in this. But it doesn't change that anyone who affiliate, who relied on affiliate revenue and who had it skimmed by honey was victimized by Honey. We were compensated at least partially by.
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Luke Lafreniere
A lot of the. Yeah, a lot of the people that were sponsored by them were. Which was like the Internet at that point in time.
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Linus Sebastian
Yep. But, like.
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Luke Lafreniere
Guys and then the karma now thing looked bad. Working with them one time, that's. That's something that stood out to me quite a bit during the video, was that it was assessed in its current state because you obviously can't go back and assess it from the past. But that gets tough because you don't know, like, what you guys are saying. They assured that it didn't work that way. You tested it. Okay, cool. They can change it on you. They could have changed on you immediately after the sponsor spots went up.
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Linus Sebastian
Well, yeah, I don't know.
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Luke Lafreniere
I don't know. We don't know when it happened.
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Linus Sebastian
I don't know. That was. It was all.
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Luke Lafreniere
Could have happened years later. Like, who knows?
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Linus Sebastian
Yeah. Voight says for me, it felt like Honey was quietly dropped as a sponsor with no messy breakup. Could have been any reason. But as you said back then, you only knew about the affiliate ripping, which isn't too bad, especially for users. Yeah, exactly.
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Luke Lafreniere
It's really bad for creators.
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Linus Sebastian
Yeah. It's really bad for creators.
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Luke Lafreniere
But it was also being sick from the rooftops at that point in time.
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Linus Sebastian
Yeah. Like, I don't know, maybe Mega Leg is living up to his name.
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Luke Lafreniere
It's like, at that point in time, it's also, like, not really our story to break, like, if other people are already reporting on it and it's getting around a lot.
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Linus Sebastian
Yeah.
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Luke Lafreniere
I think it's blowing up so much right now because of the downsides for users.
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Linus Sebastian
Yeah, I could see that. Yep. Sure. Yeah. So cool.
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Luke Lafreniere
Moving on.
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Linus Sebastian
Yeah.
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Luke Lafreniere
Positive things.
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Linus Sebastian
Yeah. Yeah. Can we do that?
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Luke Lafreniere
Do you want to talk about the Colin and Samir?
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Linus Sebastian
No.
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Luke Lafreniere
Maybe 2024.
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Linus Sebastian
Why don't we talk about RTX 5090? Oh, because we don't know the price yet, so we can still kind of have fun and we could pretend that, like, anyone will be able to afford an RTX 5090. Do. Do you guys want to play pretend for a little bit?
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Luke Lafreniere
Sure.
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Linus Sebastian
Okay. I would. I would like that, though.
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Dan
I still have both kidneys, so I'm good.
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Linus Sebastian
Nice. Nice. Not for long, Dan. Yay. New images have leaked of a populated RTX 5090 PCB, and it looks full. Oh, my goodness. Wow, that is dense with two S's. That is wild. So there's your allegedly alleged 32 gigs of GDDR7 Rams. There is all the VRMs, and then there is all the rest of them. Look at this thing.
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Luke Lafreniere
Do you Have a comparison of the 4090. Do you have both up?
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Linus Sebastian
I, I, I don't, I don't have the 4090. Oh, is there link in the doc? Oh, incredible. Okay. And the 4090 was already a dense mama jama because remember the whole like through PCB cooling thing? Wow. So that's a, that's a 4090 credit to WCCF Tech for posting that. I don't know if they're actually the original poster of it. Oh, here's the blank one. I don't know what it is, but there is something about a blank unpopulated PCB with just all the pads that just is like yeah, right. Like damn. Like damn. Like damn, damn. You know, like damn.
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Dan
Damn.
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Luke Lafreniere
We're losing it today. Yeah.
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Linus Sebastian
So I slept about three hours last night. Just so you have some idea. Like I'm. Dude, I'm barely functional today.
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Luke Lafreniere
So the rumors of the 5090 is that it has 21,760 CUDA cores compared to the 4090 16384. Pretty big jump. The memory goes up to 32 gigs, which you would have needed like you know, beyond 4090 in the past to.
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Linus Sebastian
Have, which almost certainly means it has a 512 bit memory bus which is like that combined with going to GDDR7, it's like what?
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Luke Lafreniere
16 modules of memory power stages 29 versus 4090s 23 PCB 14 layers compared to the 4090s 12 and the MSRP. Probably too much for all of us.
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Linus Sebastian
I don't know, dude. I don't know. Look at this, look at this. 1599 US. I see only three question marks that to me indicates, indicates. And they might have typoed we definitely. They might have forgotten a decim. So we could be looking at a single dollar. We could be looking at one. One dollar. As low as one dollar. Luke.
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Luke Lafreniere
Very nice.
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Linus Sebastian
As low as one dollar and zero cents. I think it could happen. I think it could happen.
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Luke Lafreniere
Discussion Question is, what is your max limit on price? Assuming performance is good compared to last gen.
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Linus Sebastian
Okay, so here's the thing. I think I've talked about this a fair bit, but it bears repeating because Nvidia waits two to three years between releasing GPUs now. So some remember or weren't around for this. But when I saw the pricing of the 40 series, I made a solemn oath. I swore that I would not upgrade to it. I have kept that promise.
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Luke Lafreniere
Yeah.
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Linus Sebastian
My VR machine is still running a launch 3080 okay. Okay. My personal rig is still running the 7900 xtx from the Radeon Challenge. And my like LAN machine in the LAN room is still running a. It's a. It's a 3080. Yeah. So it's an EVGA 3080.
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Luke Lafreniere
So is there a price point for this?
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Linus Sebastian
Hold on. No, no, I'm not done yet. I'm not done yet. I have an EGPU for my rog flow x13 3080 my entire life. 3000 series enjoyer is 3000 series and below for Nvidia.
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Luke Lafreniere
Yeah.
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Linus Sebastian
And then on the. Oh yeah, technically I have one more machine. I have a little. Remember those little asrock like mini desktops?
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Luke Lafreniere
I think so, yeah.
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Linus Sebastian
With that used an MXM module.
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Luke Lafreniere
Yes.
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Linus Sebastian
Okay, so I have one of those in my family room upstairs for just like playing casual games on the TV. Up, up there.
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Luke Lafreniere
Sure.
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Linus Sebastian
1080 still going strong. 1080 gang represent. So I have no 40 series in my life. So with that said, I'm coming at this from an alternate angle. I have a different perspective on the 50 series because I've seen a lot of people like flip the math out going, well, this isn't worth it as an upgrade. They're asking way too much money. But my upgrade is from a 3080 class card or a 7900, which is not on par with the 4090. It's more on par with a 3090 ti. Right. If we're being honest. If we're being honest, Especially if you want to look at ray traced games, then it can even fall down below that. And ray tracing is now mandatory in some titles.
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Luke Lafreniere
Yes.
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Linus Sebastian
No, that's. That, that's true.
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Luke Lafreniere
Tomb Raider or not Tomb Raider.
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Linus Sebastian
Well, Guy Tomb Raider.
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Luke Lafreniere
Yeah.
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Linus Sebastian
Nostalgia Tomb Raider.
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Luke Lafreniere
Yeah. There we go.
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Linus Sebastian
Yeah.
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Luke Lafreniere
Donates to a museum. Tomb Raider.
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Linus Sebastian
Great looking game, by the way. Have you played?
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Luke Lafreniere
I have not.
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Linus Sebastian
Great circle. Yeah. Oh, okay. Oh my. It's so beautiful.
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Luke Lafreniere
Nice.
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Linus Sebastian
It looks incredible.
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Luke Lafreniere
Worth the requirement.
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Linus Sebastian
Well, that's more complicated discussion.
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Luke Lafreniere
No, more spicy.
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Linus Sebastian
Takes more complicated discussion. Yeah. So my upgrade is much greater and my amenability to spending way too much money is much higher because I got three good years skipped a gen out of my 3080.
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Luke Lafreniere
Okay, so there's still a limit.
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Linus Sebastian
I'm afraid to say anything because I really want one. And if I say something and you want a 4096, if I say, guys, if it's over this price, then I'm gonna skip this generation.
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Luke Lafreniere
I'd still be on 3,000.
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Linus Sebastian
Then I'm gonna be stuck on 3,000 for another like five more years.
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Luke Lafreniere
Five total years.
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Linus Sebastian
Yeah. And then six and then 6090 nice is gonna arrive and it's gonna be, it's gonna be like $4,000 and I'm gonna be like. And if it's over $3,800, I'm not buying. And I'm gonna be running a 3080 forever.
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Luke Lafreniere
Oh man. Maybe, maybe at that point Nvidia or Intel will be so good that you'll be fine. That's a lot of years from now.
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Linus Sebastian
Series massive respect to what intel has done with Arc Battle. Massive respect. And, and, and they're catching up to Nvidia in the ways that I think matter more for the future.
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Luke Lafreniere
That makes sense.
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Linus Sebastian
So they're, they're, they're still. When we look at die size to die size comparisons, they're behind on Raster. When we look at performance per watt, dude, they're behind. But when we look at what intel is doing on the software side, their driver team is doing the work. On the tech side, their AI performance, even though the support for it's not great yet. Good. Their ray tracing performance. Good. Yeah.
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Luke Lafreniere
They're very forward thinking, which is good.
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Linus Sebastian
Yes. So all that's great. But let's face it, they are not going to have a 5090 competitor. They may not have a 6090 competitor.
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Luke Lafreniere
They just got to release an SLI competitor.
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Linus Sebastian
All right, enough.
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Luke Lafreniere
And then just put like four of them in.
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Dan
Although let them virtualize them.
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Linus Sebastian
We do need a reason for PCIe Gen 6.
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Luke Lafreniere
Like let's do it.
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Linus Sebastian
Okay. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. But I think for, I think at mainstream price points, I hope intel is going to just crush it. Just give us a, give us some.
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Luke Lafreniere
We'll see how rough 5060 coming out is.
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Linus Sebastian
Okay. Whenever that happens, the price I've seen rumored is 2 grand US. Yeah, that's the price that I've seen rumored. But that goes back far. Like I haven't seen. I, I intentionally don't really follow the rumors that closely in the lead up to a product launch because realistically I'm going to get briefed on it anyway. And that will be the real information anyway.
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Luke Lafreniere
Right now isn't that like 2800 CAD?
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Linus Sebastian
Yeah, more. It's, it's probably more like 2900 Canadian dollars. Yeah.
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Luke Lafreniere
2000 USD to CAD and I think.
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Linus Sebastian
What?
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Luke Lafreniere
Oh yeah. 2884.
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Linus Sebastian
What's median, what's median income these days? Like 38,000 or something like that. Median Income Canadian. Oh, my goodness. Oh, wait. Is this household median income? Hold on. Median income was 41,700 in 2022. Yeah. So here's my source. Wowwood. Ca. I have no idea how. I have no idea how accurate that is or anything, but, like, we are basically. We are basically looking at like a tenth of your take home by the time you actually, like, get taxed on that and stuff.
- [30:18]
Luke Lafreniere
Yeah, the tariffs, guys. The terrorists wouldn't be from China. They'd be from Taiwan.
- [30:25]
Linus Sebastian
Which ones?
- [30:26]
Luke Lafreniere
People are like, oh, you have to factor in tariffs now.
- [30:28]
Linus Sebastian
No, you. We could end up. I doubt it. But that would only be for the States anyway. For Canada, I doubt that we would be paying any kind of import tariffs on Chinese exported GPUs.
- [30:41]
Luke Lafreniere
They're going to start smuggling GPUs over the board.
- [30:44]
Linus Sebastian
Yeah, the GPUs themselves are made in Taiwan, but a lot of the card assembly is done in China. So the finished GPU would probably be subject to any Chinese tariffs. But. But that's all speculative until after January sometime. So for the sake of discussion. Yeah, 2000 USD.
- [31:07]
Luke Lafreniere
That's too much.
- [31:09]
Linus Sebastian
I'm going to do it.
- [31:10]
Luke Lafreniere
What if it's 2200?
- [31:14]
Linus Sebastian
Stop. What? Yeah. I'm not going to let you pin me down on this. I'm not going to know. I'm not going to commit to anything. I'm not going to commit to anything. Is there.
- [31:24]
Luke Lafreniere
You don't have to vocalize it. Is there a limit? You don't have to tell anyone, just in case you want to get out of it or whatever.
- [31:31]
Dan
Is there a point where you would be.
- [31:32]
Luke Lafreniere
Is there a soft limit?
- [31:33]
Dan
Right now, I don't want to open.
- [31:35]
Luke Lafreniere
My wallet because you're gonna. Like, for context, he's not gonna buy one.
- [31:38]
Linus Sebastian
No, no, I will. I'll buy one. Okay, look, if I'm gonna say, I accept this madness, I can't just. I can't just use my influencer clout to be like. To summon one. I don't think that's right, because I took a principled stand on 40 series. I was like, this is too expensive. I won't even use it. If I'm gonna break that, I think I have to pay for it.
- [32:03]
Luke Lafreniere
Going from 1600 to two grand in one generation doesn't deserve a principled stand.
- [32:09]
Linus Sebastian
Luke, what GPU do you run?
- [32:14]
Luke Lafreniere
I don't want to talk about it.
- [32:16]
Linus Sebastian
What is it? I know what it is.
- [32:18]
Luke Lafreniere
It's pretty good.
- [32:19]
Linus Sebastian
Yeah, what is it?
- [32:20]
Luke Lafreniere
It's pretty good. Well, if you want to see it, you should check out the. The linusectives video on Bulbasaur.
- [32:27]
Linus Sebastian
See, I have no problem. I have no problem. I have no problem gifting, you know, a 40 series to someone. That. That's. That's no problem.
- [32:34]
Luke Lafreniere
I didn't need to get involved in this.
- [32:36]
Linus Sebastian
I just wouldn't. Yeah, I just wouldn't buy one. I just. I. I wouldn't. I wouldn't buy a 40 series. And so because I didn't want to hack and just request one, then I was like, use them. Yeah, he actually didn't request. I mean, he did hint to someone. Oh, I thought you were bringing up the video.
- [32:54]
Luke Lafreniere
It was. It was. I just didn't know you were doing that. Let me bring it back.
- [32:57]
Linus Sebastian
He did hint to someone that he kind of wanted an upgrade or something, I think. Or maybe. No, Jake's idea. I think it was Jake's idea. Anyway, let me make. Let me make. At risk of being called an advocate for the devil himself, Let me make an argument for my $2,000 GPU. Okay, okay, hold on. I'm gonna find something.
- [33:24]
Luke Lafreniere
Because to be fair, that's, like, really close to the current cost of my current car. Yeah, I used to talk about, like, you know, the first car that I bought as a. As a scale for computer parts. Now it has to be the one that I drove here today, which is crazy. You can. You can buy something that literally gets you from A to B instead of something that, like, digitally gets you from A to B.
- [33:55]
Linus Sebastian
When I was growing up, a computer setup at Future Shop. Okay, okay, hold on. So you know where I'm going with this, but hold on. A computer set up from Future Shop would have probably cost you somewhere in the neighborhood of 2,500 to $4,400.
- [34:16]
Luke Lafreniere
Okay.
- [34:16]
Linus Sebastian
Right. That was in, like, $1998.
- [34:20]
Luke Lafreniere
Yeah.
- [34:21]
Linus Sebastian
And they could have easily gone more, like easily. You could spend five grand on. On a computer. On a personal computer, as they called them back then. I would make the argument that, like, TVs, PCs, in spite of some of the utter craziness of the last few years, have actually beaten inflation. You can still get for, like, $4,000, a computer tower. And the fact that it can contain something as powerful as a 4090 actually kind of impressive. Kind of cool. It is not that wild to spend three, four, five grand on a PC once every, you know, five to six years. It's pretty wild, but it's also not wild. Like, it's a thing that, when I grew up, was normal. Every family.
- [35:20]
Luke Lafreniere
But when tech scales you don't have to keep spending the same amount.
- [35:23]
Linus Sebastian
No, you don't. But you also can. And you can get a PC that is vastly more powerful than that 1998 machine for 500 bucks.
- [35:31]
Luke Lafreniere
Yeah.
- [35:32]
Linus Sebastian
So you absolutely don't have to. But I also think cell phone. I also think that for something that is. That is a purchase that you will use for an extended period of time, and that you will get much, much, much, much, much use out of it is not entirely unreasonable.
- [35:50]
Luke Lafreniere
I don't know if you're gonna get that much use out of it.
- [35:53]
Linus Sebastian
Yeah, that's fair. I don't. I don't really get to game that much.
- [35:57]
Luke Lafreniere
However, I feel like it's like, however. On your Ally.
- [36:00]
Linus Sebastian
However, which of us is further into our playthrough of the Pixel remaster of Final Fantasy 6? You or me?
- [36:09]
Luke Lafreniere
Wait, are you playing it?
- [36:11]
Linus Sebastian
It's on sale. I picked it up.
- [36:12]
Luke Lafreniere
Oh, no. He's gonna beat me. I said I was gonna play it this week. That I had actually a very busy week and had no time.
- [36:22]
Linus Sebastian
Speaking of my Ally.
- [36:24]
Luke Lafreniere
Oh, boy. Where are you at?
- [36:27]
Linus Sebastian
Well, let's just see. Why don't we just see if you recognize where I am?
- [36:30]
Luke Lafreniere
Because part of the problem is that he, quote unquote, doesn't have any time to play games. But then you'll see him jump on a game on Steam at, like, midnight. It's like, oh, I wonder what he's doing. But then, you know, it's not on his computer that he would have spent all these thousands of dollars on.
- [36:43]
Linus Sebastian
I could stream it.
- [36:46]
Luke Lafreniere
Wrecked on the Ally.
- [36:47]
Linus Sebastian
Yeah, of course.
- [36:50]
Luke Lafreniere
Is there a camera on the other.
- [36:51]
Linus Sebastian
What? No, no, no. Not that kind of streaming.
- [36:53]
Luke Lafreniere
So you're just gonna, like. Oh, how would you stream the Pixel remaster?
- [36:58]
Linus Sebastian
So I could get, like, 9,000 FPS? Who cares? Don't worry about it. Okay, so here. Here's what we're gonna do. Here's what we're gonna play a little.
- [37:05]
Luke Lafreniere
Game called do I know where you are?
- [37:08]
Linus Sebastian
Do you recognize where I am?
- [37:10]
Luke Lafreniere
No.
- [37:10]
Linus Sebastian
All right.
- [37:13]
Luke Lafreniere
So you've had it for, like, a couple days?
- [37:15]
Linus Sebastian
Qed.
- [37:18]
Luke Lafreniere
All right, well, you're going on a trip. Are you gonna play it on your trip?
- [37:21]
Linus Sebastian
Yep.
- [37:22]
Luke Lafreniere
Darn it.
- [37:24]
Dan
Where are you at?
- [37:25]
Linus Sebastian
Are you still at the Imperial Magitech facility?
- [37:28]
Luke Lafreniere
No, I'm past that.
- [37:29]
Linus Sebastian
You're past that?
- [37:29]
Luke Lafreniere
Yeah.
- [37:29]
Linus Sebastian
Oh, okay. Are you at the sealed gate?
- [37:34]
Luke Lafreniere
Past that, I believe so.
- [37:36]
Linus Sebastian
You've had the banquet?
- [37:39]
Luke Lafreniere
No.
- [37:40]
Linus Sebastian
Okay, so you're probably somewhere. Somewhere in that neighborhood.
- [37:45]
Luke Lafreniere
Yeah.
- [37:45]
Linus Sebastian
Okay, well, I'm not Going to spoil anything. Not going to spoil anything. I will say though, that if I feel like treating myself to a nice gaming PC, I think that unlike some people, I can complete a game in a year. So I should be entitled to do that.
- [38:03]
Luke Lafreniere
I wanted to do it this holiday season.
- [38:05]
Linus Sebastian
I was so ready for you to tell me I don't game. I was so ready.
- [38:08]
Luke Lafreniere
Yeah. I myself brother spun up a family holiday Valheim server. So we've been playing My brother, my dad.
- [38:16]
Linus Sebastian
That's pretty cool.
- [38:17]
Luke Lafreniere
So that took the time that I thought I was going to spend playing Final Fantasy 6.
- [38:23]
Linus Sebastian
That's pretty cool though.
- [38:24]
Luke Lafreniere
That seemed fair.
- [38:24]
Linus Sebastian
I respect it.
- [38:25]
Luke Lafreniere
I'm still going to try to. Now that I know you're on the. On the track, I'm still going to try to get it out.
- [38:30]
Linus Sebastian
All right.
- [38:30]
Luke Lafreniere
Get it finished pretty quick.
- [38:31]
Linus Sebastian
All right, let's go. Let's go. I've. I've spent a lot of time like dinking around doing stuff I totally don't need to do. I will say this though. The Pixel remaster is easy.
- [38:40]
Luke Lafreniere
Oh.
- [38:41]
Linus Sebastian
Oh, dude.
- [38:42]
Luke Lafreniere
Okay, that makes sense. It is so easy because I've heard you talk and I've heard a lot of other people talk about like needing to grind a bunch and stuff and certain fights that you're like, oh, this is really hard. And then I went and did it. It's like, I don't think I did anything special, dude. It's like hard.
- [38:57]
Linus Sebastian
It's like a joke. Okay, so they difficulty tuned it laughably easy. Okay, well, it's not just like. It's not just difficulty tuned. It's like certain things were broken in the original game. The evade stat literally didn't work.
- [39:12]
Luke Lafreniere
Okay.
- [39:14]
Linus Sebastian
So you like always got hit but would miss a lot. And it was real, real frustrate. Also the ability to. To just turn off random encounters while you find your way through something. Like, I didn't do that. I to this day didn't realize how small some of the dungeons were because when you're getting into it so much random encounter every three steps. Huge.
- [39:40]
Luke Lafreniere
Yeah.
- [39:41]
Linus Sebastian
They feel enormous. Like you could never navigate them.
- [39:44]
Luke Lafreniere
That almost feels like some of the difficulty sometimes is the like time between potential rest areas. So being able to turn that off.
- [39:53]
Linus Sebastian
Oh, dude. And the way the saving works, it has like quick save.
- [39:56]
Luke Lafreniere
Yeah.
- [39:56]
Linus Sebastian
Oh, dude, the game didn't have quick save. You went back to the last like star. Those stars were like, will there be one more random encounter before I get there? Like, it was a huge deal. And like, dude, the map. The map marks The Chocobo stables.
- [40:19]
Luke Lafreniere
Yeah.
- [40:20]
Linus Sebastian
Those weren't on the map.
- [40:22]
Luke Lafreniere
Well, aren't they in the player?
- [40:24]
Linus Sebastian
Okay, I don't think so. Hold on, hold on. Final Fantasy 3 included map north America. I don't think so though. Like, you definitely would have been able to get here. Here's one. You definitely would have been able to get like a. Like a strategy guide or whatever back in the day.
- [40:45]
Luke Lafreniere
Yeah.
- [40:46]
Linus Sebastian
But no. Yeah, so like. So traversing ground was like tough.
- [40:55]
Luke Lafreniere
Yeah.
- [40:55]
Linus Sebastian
If you didn't like have a friend who knew where they were or whatever. Right. Like it was.
- [41:01]
Luke Lafreniere
I didn't turn off random encounters. I have never bought a chocobo.
- [41:05]
Linus Sebastian
Oh, you don't. You don't have to buy them or rented or whatever. Oh, oh, okay.
- [41:08]
Luke Lafreniere
Yeah.
- [41:09]
Linus Sebastian
Okay. You definitely. Oh, being. Oh, dude. Being able to walk diagonally.
- [41:14]
Luke Lafreniere
I do. I do.
- [41:15]
Linus Sebastian
Huge.
- [41:15]
Luke Lafreniere
Yeah, huge.
- [41:16]
Linus Sebastian
Because that's literally one.
- [41:19]
Luke Lafreniere
One and a half.
- [41:20]
Linus Sebastian
One step for two.
- [41:21]
Luke Lafreniere
Yeah.
- [41:22]
Linus Sebastian
Oh, what's. What's another big one? Oh, yeah. The fact that you have sprint shoes always equipped. You had to use a relic slot to be able to walk fast. Oh, and you couldn't walk fast outside of towns. Oh yeah. So like hiking was tedious. Like there's. There's a lot that they've done to make. Oh. The explanations for like what equipment does and what espers do and stuff has been.
- [41:45]
Luke Lafreniere
I find some of that to still be weird.
- [41:48]
Linus Sebastian
Has been upgraded, but the interface for equipping ESPers is actually worse.
- [41:52]
Luke Lafreniere
I did it once and couldn't find it again the next time I went to play.
- [41:55]
Linus Sebastian
The OG interface is so much better actually for ESPers and seeing. Seeing all the spells they teach and also the. The level up stat boosts that they give you. Now. Part of why it's comically easy for me is that I'm obsessively going in after every random encounter and like fine tuning which ESPers are on my guys so that I make sure that I get the best like level up stats.
- [42:19]
Luke Lafreniere
Oh, I'm definitely not doing that.
- [42:20]
Linus Sebastian
Yeah, don't do that. Don't do that. Because it makes the game like comically easy.
- [42:24]
Luke Lafreniere
It also doesn't feel necessary, to be honest.
- [42:26]
Linus Sebastian
Anyway, back to never lost. Really?
- [42:29]
Luke Lafreniere
Yeah.
- [42:29]
Linus Sebastian
Oh, I've still. I've still managed to lose some, but it might just be because I'm like clowning around. Maybe you'll. You'll lose some stuff. I'm sure you'll.
- [42:37]
Luke Lafreniere
I've gotten very close a few times. There was one of the, like. I think it was more of a mini boss than a natural boss. But I don't know if my scaling was weird for that fight or something, but I found it very hard. I went down to one person at one point, but was able to bring people back up.
- [42:51]
Linus Sebastian
Are you, are you leveling up all of your characters or do you just have like one main party of four that you just are going with?
- [42:59]
Luke Lafreniere
There's a couple people that I really try to always have there, but other than that I'm mostly trying to cycle a little bit.
- [43:05]
Linus Sebastian
Oh. Another big one is Sabin's blitzes. Like you had to enter them without any indicator so you just like wouldn't find out until he went to execute the action. And he'd be like, yeah, you input it wrong.
- [43:20]
Luke Lafreniere
Yeah.
- [43:20]
Linus Sebastian
And so he does this thing. He'd go forward and his eyes would flash like he's about to do it and it would just say incorrect blitz input and he'd go back. Also Cayenne, you know how you just like pick whatever sword technique you want to use?
- [43:32]
Luke Lafreniere
Yes.
- [43:32]
Linus Sebastian
He had a timer so you had to wait. And if you played like me with active turn battle. So like everything's happening in real time while you're sitting in the menus. If you're waiting for like Quadra Slam for his force rough, you're like waiting and getting like creamed.
- [43:50]
Luke Lafreniere
Yeah.
- [43:51]
Linus Sebastian
So there were, there were some big, big difficulty differences.
- [43:57]
Luke Lafreniere
Yeah. Like Sabins in my party all the time.
- [43:59]
Linus Sebastian
Yeah.
- [43:59]
Luke Lafreniere
I think he's my, my like main, I guess. But most other people swap out a little bit.
- [44:05]
Linus Sebastian
He was, he was less reliable in the original version. Unless you were like really good at the inputs.
- [44:10]
Luke Lafreniere
I think I've only ever missed one because it's displays it.
- [44:12]
Linus Sebastian
Yeah, sure. You can't screw it up. I was like, oh yeah.
- [44:15]
Luke Lafreniere
I only missed one because I just like fat fingered a button or something. I was like, oh crap. It was.
- [44:20]
Linus Sebastian
Yeah, yeah, that's about it. And sometimes you can get unlucky like when the party split up and you recruit Shadow.
- [44:26]
Luke Lafreniere
Yeah.
- [44:27]
Linus Sebastian
You, you know about that. Yeah, there's a, there's a random, there's an rng. He leaves and he can leave after the first. I had him leave after the first fight once.
- [44:34]
Luke Lafreniere
Yeah. He stuck with me for quite a.
- [44:35]
Linus Sebastian
While and I was like, okay, that's cool. Pretty neat. Good game. Well designed.
- [44:45]
Luke Lafreniere
It'd be nice to be. Yeah. If that started after like at least a few fights or something.
- [44:50]
Linus Sebastian
Yep. Also because I've played the game before, I know when to like unequip guys because they're gonna like leave so that I can.
- [44:56]
Luke Lafreniere
Like, I've gotten wrecked by that a couple times. Or like a lot of really good things go into one person and they piece for like a while. It's like, okay, yeah. Now when they come back, those things aren't very good anymore.
- [45:07]
Linus Sebastian
Yeah.
- [45:08]
Luke Lafreniere
And the sell rates is pretty rough. I don't actually know what it is, but it's pretty rough.
- [45:12]
Linus Sebastian
So. 50, 90, right. I'm gonna buy one.
- [45:15]
Luke Lafreniere
To play Final Fantasy 6 on your ally.
- [45:17]
Linus Sebastian
To play whatever. To play. To play whatever I want to Play.
- [45:21]
Luke Lafreniere
Anno. Released five years ago on your PC.
- [45:23]
Linus Sebastian
Dude, I just got a. A 4K 240Hz, 27 inch. It supports DP 1.2.1. Wait, I didn't get anything. I'm not talking about anything.
- [45:41]
Luke Lafreniere
But if you did get something in.
- [45:43]
Linus Sebastian
The future, then there'd be a video about it for sure.
- [45:45]
Luke Lafreniere
And you'd want to make sure that you had something powerful to run it, I guess.
- [45:48]
Linus Sebastian
Yes. Just in case.
- [45:49]
Luke Lafreniere
Because at those potential resolution and frame rates, that would be really tough.
- [45:53]
Linus Sebastian
Just. Yeah, yeah.
- [45:55]
Luke Lafreniere
You didn't say who it's from.
- [45:56]
Linus Sebastian
Yeah, that's true actually.
- [45:58]
Luke Lafreniere
Yeah. Yeah, that helps quite a bit.
- [46:02]
Linus Sebastian
Cool. Anyway, apparently it's got a single 12 volt 2x6 power connector which replaces 12 volt high power. Shorter sensor pins, longer conductor terminals. Okay. Or Hear me out. Nvidia PCIe 8 pin. Just put a bunch of them on like we used to. You know what, forget it. Actually, it's a bad idea. All right, what are we supposed to be talking about? Explain Merch messages. Ah, yes. A few of you have found them already, I assume. Dan, how's the merch messages going over there?
- [46:31]
Dan
They're pretty good. I'm keeping up just fine.
- [46:34]
Linus Sebastian
Really. Okay, well, we haven't really talked for anyone who doesn't know about it yet, about the deal we have running on the all new commuter backpack.
- [46:45]
Luke Lafreniere
It's here.
- [46:46]
Linus Sebastian
Let's go. Yeah. You've looked at it already, right?
- [46:49]
Luke Lafreniere
I have one.
- [46:50]
Linus Sebastian
Oh, you have one. How do you like it?
- [46:51]
Luke Lafreniere
It's very nice. I immediately, I. I traditionally walked around with the power connector and laptop just like loose around work and now it's my like my work backpack, which is nice.
- [47:02]
Linus Sebastian
Let's go. This is it, folks. The commuter bag. It is selling like Billio. People are absolutely loving this thing. I've got a fully loaded one here. We're going to switch to the Linus. Okay. We're maybe gonna have to adjust this at some point because I. Oh, just hit my mic. Yeah. Holding it on this side with the mic is very challenging. Anyway, it's got two water bottle holders. They are the same size, both of them. No, it's okay. We have two water bottle holders, so you can use one for your umbrella, one for your water bottle, whatever you like. We've got our pouch of holding. Oh, my goodness, I'm dying.
- [47:42]
Luke Lafreniere
Are you sure you don't want me to hold it?
- [47:44]
Linus Sebastian
Yeah, I'd be fine, but I got some tennis elbows, so my arm is in a lot of pain. Okay. Yeah, yeah. If you just wanted to finish undoing the zipper, that'd be great. There we go. So it comes all the way down. Put your mouse in there, put your tech sack in there, put your notepad in there, your SSD in there, your pen, your screwdriver, of course, with our classic zippered screwdriver pocket in case you drop a bit or something like that in the bottom. We want to make sure you guys are able to get that out. We've got a sunglass holder in the top, sunglass pouch right in there. Get you get your sunglasses in there. And then of course, it's tech forward, zips all the way down so you can reach all your good stuff with two spots for battery banks or even gigantic power bricks and cables. And then a tablet slot as well as a laptop slot and another zippered pouch there. Oh, and the best part, and the part that has got people losing their minds, is I saw a lot of pricing speculation with people saying like, yeah, to 150. 150. That'd be like. That'd be like sick. 150 would be great. But I'm afraid to hope for it because this is all the same quality materials as the original bag. Ykk. Zippers, reprieve fabric made of recycled water bottles, all that good stuff. But we did it 150. And for a limited time only, and I really do mean limited time only. It is $30 off. It is 120 if you buy it through YouTube shopping. Oh, I just want to give you guys a little update here. Hold on. I'm just going to refresh the thing. So I already told people on the WAN show before. Someone says I missed the YouTube deal. Sad. No, you didn't. The YouTube deal is active. It's active now. I told you guys before, it's limited to 1700 units so far. And Luke can verify this because apparently I'm a. I'm a big liar in a scumbag. If you believe all of the recent scandals or whatever. We're at 12,635 units. So we still have what does that work out to? 4,400 units at the discounted price. It is possible. It is possible that they will not make it through the weekend. So if you guys want to pick one up, the discount is through YouTube shopping. What? Those numbers make no sense. Oh, 17. 17,000. We have 17,000. Besides 1700. My bad. Well, I mean I'm a big liar. That's probably it. So we have, we have 4400 more discounts. You buy it through YouTube shopping. Which Dan is it set up on wan show today?
- [50:33]
Dan
It should be pinned. I've seen some stuff that you might have to disable ad blocker for it to show up if you are using one.
- [50:39]
Linus Sebastian
That makes sense.
- [50:40]
Luke Lafreniere
One thing that I'm finding as well. So you have to click on the little product. Okay, so I'll go to my laptop. You have to click on this thing and then when it goes to the store, it's not going to show the discount immediately. So you have to add it to your cart. It shows the full price you have to add it to. Because it's YouTube's discount. Whatever.
- [51:00]
Linus Sebastian
Yeah.
- [51:00]
Luke Lafreniere
So you have to add it to your cart and then in your cart you'll see it. Boom.
- [51:04]
Linus Sebastian
Someone says wtf? Not on floatplane. That's because the money, the $30 from YouTube is not from us.
- [51:12]
Luke Lafreniere
Yeah.
- [51:13]
Linus Sebastian
So when your payment goes through YouTube kicks in $30. We are getting $150. But to promote YouTube shopping, Google is sort of co launching this product with us. An extremely, extremely generous offer. We would be charging $149.99 and we're going to keep selling this backpack for years at $149.99. And based on the reactions that people had to the original price when we announced it. That's going to do great. And it's going to go gangbusters for us. For everyone who doesn't see see this message right now. But Google is pitching in US$30 so you could see that. Oh, I will not talk in any more detail about anything. Cool. Anyway, buy it through YouTube shopping. 119.99.
- [52:07]
Dan
Oh no.
- [52:08]
Linus Sebastian
See you later. I don't know. I got like four messages from Nick. He just says stop talking. So I'm good.
- [52:13]
Luke Lafreniere
It's technically 120.00. Got him. Linus's liar again.
- [52:21]
Linus Sebastian
Confirmed.
- [52:22]
Luke Lafreniere
Confirmed.
- [52:22]
Linus Sebastian
Unethical.
- [52:24]
Dan
Are you hiding the rest of the zeros from us? Free the floats.
- [52:28]
Linus Sebastian
Anyhow, anyway, the point is we love YouTube shopping. And we love our Google overlords.
- [52:36]
Dan
I don't think they love us right now.
- [52:38]
Linus Sebastian
I don't know. Maybe they won't notice.
- [52:41]
Dan
Okay, well, that's a merch message. Would you like me to read you one before you do the announcement?
- [52:45]
Linus Sebastian
Oh, yeah. We should explain merch messages. So while you're checking out on the store, you can leave a merch message. If you just put something in your cart, you'll get a little box. Hey, there you go. And you can send a merch message producer Dan, who looks like this and is in the dark today. Okay. We couldn't afford power over Christmas. Christmas was. We had too many Christmas lights running. We couldn't afford any lights for Dan.
- [53:09]
Dan
Lake dried up.
- [53:10]
Linus Sebastian
Anyway, it'll go to producer Dan, who will pop your message up here or give you a response or curate it for me and Luke to respond to on the show. Dan, do you want to show us how it works?
- [53:22]
Dan
Sure. Hi, ldl. Looking at where Luke is today, what do you guys think about lying on your resume? I'm looking for a new job and want to know what you guys think. Keep up the good work.
- [53:36]
Linus Sebastian
Well, being an unethical liar, I would say lie as hard as you can. As much as you can. I wouldn't advise it. By the time Luke. First of all, Luke faked it till he made it.
- [53:54]
Luke Lafreniere
Yeah, that part's pretty important.
- [53:55]
Linus Sebastian
He did manage to successfully perform the job functions as expected, even though he did not have the experience that he claimed to have when he came into it. He figured it out, so you're gonna have to be ready to do that. And by the time he got busted, or rather admitted it to me, it was in an as friends conversation. As friends. And I was like, oh, you also. This is far from the worst you've.
- [54:21]
Luke Lafreniere
Done at this point. So I believe. Sounds about right.
- [54:31]
Linus Sebastian
It's not a good way to kick off a relationship, though.
- [54:35]
Luke Lafreniere
Yes.
- [54:36]
Linus Sebastian
And I wouldn't advise you to try it.
- [54:38]
Luke Lafreniere
Yeah.
- [54:40]
Linus Sebastian
Oh, man.
- [54:41]
Luke Lafreniere
Yeah. I've also, like, I've had a not insignificant amount. I kind of wish I never said it on camera. Not because I don't mind owning it, but because people have, like, taken it as, like, I'll do this to him and it'll be funny thing. And I've caught a bunch of people doing it, and then I'm like, well, I can't. Like, this isn't. That doesn't work.
- [55:04]
Linus Sebastian
Yeah. If you get. So it's one of those things where it's like, big bet, big reward, big downside.
- [55:10]
Luke Lafreniere
Yeah.
- [55:11]
Linus Sebastian
Right. Bet big. You either win big or lose big. Because if we don't catch you, maybe you get the job. If we catch you, you will almost certainly be removed from any consideration.
- [55:21]
Luke Lafreniere
Yeah. And a lot of the. A lot of the positions have, like, technically the one that I did had a form of testing as well, but a lot of the positions here have some form of testing or like a trial period or something like that.
- [55:32]
Linus Sebastian
Yeah. My interview process for him was a three hour vibe check.
- [55:36]
Luke Lafreniere
Yeah. And. And we filmed something.
- [55:40]
Linus Sebastian
In fairness, filming stuff back then was as simple as like, oh, yeah. Can you make sure that the correct object.
- [55:47]
Luke Lafreniere
So just do this, dude.
- [55:48]
Linus Sebastian
With that said, though, you'd be surprised at how many people fucked that up. They just couldn't. They just, like, couldn't. I'd be like. Because, like, for you it's obvious, right? If I'm like, you know, Google's had an amazing year this year. They've come out with this and they've come out with that. And what I really want to show you is this. And I look at. Okay, so to him, that's obvious. You wouldn't believe the number of people stay on who just stayed on me while I was literally not even looking in the lens. And I'm like talking about this thing in my hand and I'm like, this, this. For the love of God, this.
- [56:24]
Luke Lafreniere
There was no second take back then.
- [56:26]
Linus Sebastian
Yeah.
- [56:27]
Luke Lafreniere
Especially because a lot of it legitimately was taking the thing out of the box and in many cases that was breaking seals. So, like, there. There was no second take.
- [56:36]
Linus Sebastian
Yeah. ZMPT says Luke. Luke's problem was he just focused the camera on the road.
- [56:43]
Luke Lafreniere
That's a good reference.
- [56:44]
Linus Sebastian
Yeah, that's a quality reference. Oh, man.
- [56:50]
Luke Lafreniere
Anyways. Yeah, don't.
- [56:52]
Linus Sebastian
Yeah, don't do that.
- [56:53]
Luke Lafreniere
Don't do that.
- [56:54]
Linus Sebastian
Yeah.
- [56:55]
Dan
Dear Duke.
- [56:57]
Linus Sebastian
Oh, hold on. Hold On By East One says there is no second take because there's only one tape. There were times we cheated.
- [57:05]
Luke Lafreniere
Oh, yeah.
- [57:06]
Linus Sebastian
If something went catastrophically wrong, we would turn the box around.
- [57:09]
Luke Lafreniere
Yeah.
- [57:10]
Linus Sebastian
And break the seal on the other side for sure.
- [57:12]
Luke Lafreniere
Yeah. It's just you. You don't aim to do that.
- [57:15]
Linus Sebastian
Yeah.
- [57:15]
Luke Lafreniere
That's supposed to be like a really, really, like, last solution type situation.
- [57:22]
Linus Sebastian
Do you want to show Lt. Beefy where YouTube shop is? Really quick one more time. There's a few people that are having.
- [57:28]
Luke Lafreniere
Trouble finding it if you are having trouble finding it. So it's on the. Six months ago. I tease you with this LTT store commuter back.
- [57:34]
Linus Sebastian
That is not a great still frame.
- [57:38]
Luke Lafreniere
If you're having trouble seeing this little block right here. It's probably something to do with ad blocking or tracking blocking or something like that. Some type of add on you have or potentially your browser, but you're probably running Chrome so it's probably fine.
- [57:54]
Dan
Should be on this one show as well.
- [57:56]
Luke Lafreniere
Oh, okay.
- [57:57]
Dan
I didn't know that that's pinned in this WAN show. I sure hope so.
- [58:03]
Luke Lafreniere
Let's see, let's see.
- [58:08]
Dan
There it is.
- [58:09]
Luke Lafreniere
Cool.
- [58:10]
Linus Sebastian
Okay, so that's how you do it.
- [58:12]
Luke Lafreniere
And then that should bring you. Yeah, right here. And then again, when you get to this page, it's not going to actually show it lower. You have to add it to your cart. And then in the cart it will be discounted.
- [58:23]
Linus Sebastian
Cool beans.
- [58:25]
Luke Lafreniere
There you go.
- [58:26]
Linus Sebastian
Okay, one more. Yeah, yeah, sure. Hit me up with the merch message.
- [58:30]
Dan
Dear Duke and Dan and vertically challenged superstar. What? Well, sorry, one sec.
- [58:36]
Luke Lafreniere
Some people are finding that it's geo fence to a certain degree, so they have to VPN around to. To get it.
- [58:45]
Dan
I wonder if that is a YouTube thing.
- [58:47]
Luke Lafreniere
Yeah, I don't know.
- [58:48]
Linus Sebastian
Could be. Yeah, it could be limited. I. I don't know anything about that. It's a YouTube shopping promo. So we do not have any control over what regions YouTube Shopping is able to operate in. And hey, it's still a great bag at 150.
- [59:04]
Luke Lafreniere
Yeah, yeah, true.
- [59:06]
Dan
Our notes say here you may need to disable your ad blocker or VPN if you don't see the tagged product. So yeah, I think it is geofenced.
- [59:14]
Linus Sebastian
Or enable your vpn. No, I didn't say that.
- [59:18]
Luke Lafreniere
Private Internet.
- [59:21]
Linus Sebastian
No. Do we have a private Internet access link? Coincidentally, Dan, if we have pia, It's a service that we've talked about a lot that I've used for many, many years now.
- [59:33]
Luke Lafreniere
Yeah.
- [59:33]
Linus Sebastian
And you know, just sometimes you run into situations where you need to access a thing as though the thing is from some other thing. I have no idea if it'll work on this. I legitimately don't know.
- [59:43]
Luke Lafreniere
Check if you're getting schizammed on flight prices.
- [59:46]
Linus Sebastian
Like I've run into times when even using a VPN was, was not good enough. Like when I tried to buy a valve index man, they got that. They got that locked. They had that locked down. I had to get someone from America with an American credit card from an American bank to buy that thing for me and send it up to me. God bless America.
- [60:11]
Luke Lafreniere
Have you ever had the scenario where you get cheaper flights? Southern Linus would actually be amazing.
- [60:22]
Dan
These gosh darn 4090s.
- [60:26]
Luke Lafreniere
I will take a stand. Anyways. Have you had the flight prices thing work?
- [60:34]
Linus Sebastian
I have. I've had people tell me that's a, that's debunked. It's debunked. But I'm like, I don't know what to tell you. We literally did a video about it.
- [60:40]
Luke Lafreniere
It was theoretically debunked or not. I, I. There was recently. I thought it was working, and then we figured out that it was Canadian versus USD, but they didn't show any differentiation.
- [60:50]
Linus Sebastian
Oh, interesting.
- [60:51]
Luke Lafreniere
Yeah.
- [60:53]
Linus Sebastian
Anyways, Southern Linus and the Luke Savaz. Okay. Credit to PK7 in floatplane chat. That's pretty good.
- [61:02]
Dan
10 out of 10. Nicely done.
- [61:06]
Linus Sebastian
All right, Dan, why don't you hit us with one more?
- [61:09]
Dan
I'm trying.
- [61:09]
Linus Sebastian
Oh, wait, have you not done it yet?
- [61:11]
Dan
No.
- [61:11]
Linus Sebastian
Well, get on with it, man.
- [61:13]
Dan
What is the jankiest solution or fix ever suggested for something that everyone said no to? And looking back, how bad it would have really been?
- [61:21]
Linus Sebastian
Oh, man.
- [61:22]
Luke Lafreniere
Everyone said no to.
- [61:23]
Dan
And, and we don't say that often. It was worse than expected.
- [61:26]
Linus Sebastian
The jankiest fix.
- [61:30]
Luke Lafreniere
Most of the terrible janky fix solutions, I've just done them.
- [61:34]
Linus Sebastian
Yeah. And they mostly work.
- [61:36]
Luke Lafreniere
Yeah.
- [61:37]
Linus Sebastian
Like, I don't know if we've been. I don't know if we've been burned that badly, like. Yeah.
- [61:43]
Luke Lafreniere
To be honest.
- [61:44]
Linus Sebastian
Oh. Oh. Um, the, the, the air fiber link between here and Creator warehouse went out sometimes.
- [61:54]
Luke Lafreniere
Okay.
- [61:54]
Linus Sebastian
But I think what we determined was the problem was that they were too close.
- [61:58]
Luke Lafreniere
Oh, no.
- [61:59]
Dan
They were too close to the roofs.
- [62:01]
Linus Sebastian
Oh. Was it that. I thought they were too close to each other.
- [62:04]
Dan
Oh.
- [62:04]
Linus Sebastian
I mean, and they were designed for, like, a higher power or something might have changed.
- [62:08]
Dan
But I think there was some reflections for them. Being like they're supposed to be in a post. We, like, glued them to the ground.
- [62:14]
Luke Lafreniere
The swimming pool water cooling works, though.
- [62:16]
Linus Sebastian
Yeah, well, it does now. After that fitting, like, corroded away and it leaked all over everything.
- [62:21]
Luke Lafreniere
I don't think that was, like, the concept.
- [62:23]
Linus Sebastian
Yeah. It's also not that janky. It's actually pretty good.
- [62:26]
Luke Lafreniere
Yeah. And it's like a thing.
- [62:28]
Linus Sebastian
Oh, the. Oh, this one was funny. So the roof solar that's supposed to contribute to heating the pool. That one doesn't work at all because they filled it and I forgot that they told me they filled it, but they didn't glycol it. So last winter, everything blew up, and it has to be, like, completely replumbed. And I haven't gotten around to It.
- [62:50]
Luke Lafreniere
Yeah.
- [62:50]
Linus Sebastian
Yeah. So that one. That one was bad.
- [62:52]
Luke Lafreniere
Speaking which, how's the bike going? Your bike is my Final Fantasy 6.
- [62:57]
Linus Sebastian
I made progress.
- [62:58]
Luke Lafreniere
Oh, okay.
- [62:59]
Linus Sebastian
I made progress, actually. While I was. While I was off, I. I reset up everything. I added a second intake fan so I have better positive pressure. So I was getting a little bit of dust on some of the previous parts. I remixed my primer, which had settled into water and mud and took probably about 10, 15 minutes with the, like the. The drill powered paint mixer to get to. To get going again. I. I redid my hangers for the wheels because the ones I was using before made them kind of hard to maneuver. So I made new ones out of like chopsticks and then aircraft wire and then like another chopstick so that it. Instead of coming down like this, it comes down like this now. So it's a little bit easier to handle. So. No, I actually spent a few hours on it over the last. Being off this week getting prepped. I'm getting it. I'm getting it going again. I got a space heater for the booth so that it won't get too, too low. I got that set up and made sure everything's good to go. So I'm. I'm actually. I'm actually good to get going again.
- [64:00]
Luke Lafreniere
Nice.
- [64:01]
Linus Sebastian
I got this.
- [64:05]
Luke Lafreniere
Do a stream where Linus paints his bike and Luke plays Final Fantasy 6. First to finish wins. It's not a horrible idea.
- [64:12]
Linus Sebastian
It's actually not a terrible idea.
- [64:16]
Luke Lafreniere
That'd probably be pretty fun, actually.
- [64:18]
Dan
I mean, you guys should just hang out in the shop together and you know, Luke plays it on an ally or something.
- [64:23]
Luke Lafreniere
Yeah, there's a lot of multi content style streaming that's happening these days. And like even just multi content content, like you look at the shorts with like the whatever racer thing going on while they talk about something else.
- [64:34]
Linus Sebastian
Subway surfers.
- [64:35]
Luke Lafreniere
Yeah. Yeah.
- [64:35]
Linus Sebastian
Here's the problem, though. These are projects that neither Luke nor I individually have managed to work on. Assuming that we are going to somehow align the stars so we can be in the same place at the same time doing it at the same time, I mean. Oh, yeah. Well, come on, pause. Come on, man. Get your mind out of the gutter. Get your mind out of the gutter.
- [64:58]
Luke Lafreniere
It likes it there. It's comfortable. Familiar.
- [65:08]
Linus Sebastian
Oh, man. I didn't actually watch the video. Did they cut out my. Did they cut out? All right, no. You know, never mind. If they cut it out, then I'll leave it cut out. Okay. What are we supposed to be doing? Cool.
- [65:24]
Luke Lafreniere
The. The LTT community backpack announcement. Is that different than what we did for the merch messages, call out.
- [65:32]
Linus Sebastian
I don't think so.
- [65:33]
Luke Lafreniere
Okay.
- [65:33]
Linus Sebastian
They just have cute links. If you go to lmg GG discount, please, then it will take you to the store, and then when you add it to the cart, it'll automatically be applied. So if you're having trouble, LMG GG slash discount, please.
- [65:47]
Luke Lafreniere
That brings you to the YouTube video.
- [65:49]
Linus Sebastian
Oh, cool.
- [65:50]
Luke Lafreniere
Again.
- [65:51]
Linus Sebastian
See you later, bad guy.
- [65:54]
Luke Lafreniere
And it's kind of however you want to spell it, please. Full word. Plz. Pls. Both of those work.
- [65:58]
Linus Sebastian
It's bad guy.
- [65:59]
Luke Lafreniere
All three of those.
- [66:00]
Linus Sebastian
All right. I had a lot of fun hanging out with Colin Smear. Yeah, it was good. Yeah, the video went up. It's funny. They. I, I just. I, I, I felt like. I, I don't know. I felt like they did a really good job. They just kind of man the dossier they had on me. Yeah, I don't think that made it into the cut, but they had, like, they had, like, a book this thick on me. It included everything from like, like, like AI summaries that were full of mistakes to, like, a printout of the Wikipedia, which I think might also have some mistakes on it. But they also had, like, past sort of times I've addressed stuff or stories that I've told on, like, when shows that they had all these, like, citations. Like, they had a whole. Clearly they have someone who. Or either they do it or someone on their team does it, where they go through. And they have, like, a whole, like, like background check process for guests on their show. Which makes me all the more surprised that they decided to host me given how controversial I am. It was actually really interesting reading through both that and assumptions.
- [67:15]
Luke Lafreniere
Yeah.
- [67:16]
Linus Sebastian
Reading through sort of, like the audience questions. And then in the case of Colin and Samir, the questions beforehand compared to the comments on the video itself, like, it's.
- [67:26]
Luke Lafreniere
I noticed that too.
- [67:28]
Linus Sebastian
It is a stark difference. It really is what the, like, terminal. Terminally online commenters want to talk about versus what people who actually watch a video care about. No relation to each other whatsoever. Anyway, it was, it was a lot of. It was a lot of fun. I was very surprised to see the final cut and that it was, like, two hours long because we only sat down for a little over two hours. Like, I don't, I don't think they ultimately cut that much out of it. I think Colton had asked to have a look at it, but I never had a look at the, at the cut before. They. Before they uploaded it, I skipped through parts of it.
- [68:12]
Luke Lafreniere
I haven't. It's obviously, it's long.
- [68:14]
Linus Sebastian
I don't think you need to watch it like you, you literally watch. You live through. You survive. Sorry. I keep changing the language here to better reflect the situation. The WAN show every week, so I don't think you need to. Yeah. And you were, you were there for a lot of the stories that I was telling, so there really isn't.
- [68:33]
Luke Lafreniere
I don't think I just wanted to see like, what the vibe was basically that that was all I was really doing and it seemed pretty good.
- [68:39]
Linus Sebastian
I didn't sleep well the night before, I'll tell you that much.
- [68:42]
Luke Lafreniere
You seemed fairly relaxed, though.
- [68:45]
Linus Sebastian
I was trying to be, yeah. I mean, I don't know, it's like, like, I thought.
- [68:50]
Luke Lafreniere
I thought that was pretty good.
- [68:52]
Linus Sebastian
Like we, we. We wanted a chance to. To kind of talk to an audience other than that's why we. That's why we went down and, you know, did it in their studio and why we went down and did Assumptions as well. I think that, you know, for, for a while I've been a bit of a shut in. Like, there's been some exceptions lately. We've done some, some fun collabs, like with mighty car mods, but like, I've never really done like the interview circuit or anything like that. Like, it was very, you know, generous of Ludwig to invite me to the yard, but I've never really gone out and been like, hey, do you need a guest for your show before that I can remember. And it was fun, actually. Yeah, yeah, it was fun. It was cool to see how many people in our audience caught that the collab was coming when we shot our Ark battle mage video in their studio. Oh yeah. Because like, their audience obviously knew because they posted ahead of time. Hey, do you have any questions for Linus? Which by the way, as far as I can tell, they completely, completely ignored because they had their own questions ready. And I read through the questions that people asked on Twitter and stuff. I was like, I don't remember seeing any of this, but.
- [70:08]
Luke Lafreniere
But yeah, I was. Because I've watched some of their content before. Just sort of like. I don't know. I think it's. They actually do some really interesting stuff.
- [70:15]
Linus Sebastian
Well, yeah, they're. They're like the creators YouTube metagame about creators for Creators Channel. Yeah, yeah, it's.
- [70:22]
Luke Lafreniere
It's. I've watched quite a bit of this stuff and something that I've. I've noticed is that people tend to Be pretty relaxed and pretty open. And I was like, okay, is Linus gonna go, like, presenter style? Like, will you have come off just filming something an hour before? Because that's normal, and be, like, in, like, presenter mode and then. No, like, you were. You were kind of chilling, having an open conversation.
- [70:45]
Linus Sebastian
I think it was. I think it was good that Colton and I went together because we talked for, like, four hours on the flight down there. So maybe I was just in, like, chill chatting about the business mode, because realistically, both of us are the kind of people that just never turn off. So we. We literally talked for, like, four hours on the flight down there. Didn't shut up the whole time. I'm sorry. To anyone who was on that flight from YVR to lax. My. My apologies.
- [71:14]
Luke Lafreniere
Yeah.
- [71:17]
Linus Sebastian
Someone saying I should go on Joe Rogan. I've had that suggested before. A, I've never been invited. B, I don't know what we'd talk about. I literally have no idea because I. I find I am very knowledgeable about a niche that, as far as I can tell, almost no one cares about, which is like, tech, YouTube. Because a lot of what I know is not even necessarily applicable to non. Like, non tech or non. At least tangentially related, like, like science or, you know, education, YouTube or like, like, you could, like, you could kind of find ones that are, like, kind of similar, where you're trying to present information and also make it entertaining or whatever else.
- [72:02]
Luke Lafreniere
Yeah. Next topic.
- [72:07]
Linus Sebastian
Yeah. Scrappy. DP says he doesn't know who you are 100%. He has absolutely no idea who I am. I don't think I've ever seen him operate a computer. So I think his. I think his producer at some point or something talked about the screwdriver, though.
- [72:26]
Luke Lafreniere
Red Ban is not his producer, but has worked with him in the past and definitely knows who we are for sure. He. He's like the. What is the Kill Tony?
- [72:44]
Linus Sebastian
Oh, okay, okay, okay. That's the one I'm thinking about. Yep.
- [72:47]
Luke Lafreniere
But I think he used to work with Joe Rogan in the. In the way past or something.
- [72:52]
Linus Sebastian
Got it, Got it, got it, got it, got it.
- [72:53]
Luke Lafreniere
Okay. Red bands weren't like he's had, like. I think he's talked about scooter war. He's worn a. An LTX sweater on one of the Kill Tonys in the past.
- [73:04]
Linus Sebastian
Cool.
- [73:04]
Luke Lafreniere
Yeah. So he's definitely been around also, I think. I don't remember. I guess this would be before you were doing YouTube stuff, but I thought Joe Rogan was really into Like Quake.
- [73:24]
Linus Sebastian
I've heard that.
- [73:25]
Luke Lafreniere
And doing land stuff back in the day. I don't know.
- [73:29]
Linus Sebastian
That would have had to be, like, a thousand years.
- [73:31]
Luke Lafreniere
Been a long time ago.
- [73:35]
Linus Sebastian
All right, Melody Bun. There is no risk of me going on Rogan. They're begging me not to go on. Like, I have not been invited. He literally doesn't know who I am. It's fine. Just chill.
- [73:48]
Dan
Linus, do you think, like, a gorilla could play badminton?
- [73:52]
Linus Sebastian
Sorry, what?
- [73:53]
Dan
You know, like a gorilla. Like, they're pretty strong and, like, fast. What do you think?
- [73:57]
Linus Sebastian
Are you. Are you saying I should play Joe Rogan in badminton?
- [74:00]
Dan
No, like a gorilla. Do you think that could play badminton?
- [74:03]
Luke Lafreniere
He's trying to be Joe Rogan.
- [74:04]
Dan
I'm prepping you for your interview.
- [74:06]
Linus Sebastian
I've never watched the Rogan Experience. Okay. I've seen the occasional clip here, and there's like. Are those the kind of questions he asks?
- [74:14]
Dan
I don't know. I don't. I've seen clips like that.
- [74:18]
Luke Lafreniere
All his interviews turn into him talking about, like, what if this was a giant scary animal? And could you, like, take it on?
- [74:27]
Dan
So it doesn't matter that you're a tech YouTuber, because you won't be talking about that.
- [74:30]
Linus Sebastian
I see.
- [74:31]
Luke Lafreniere
It's like that. I. I think the whole thing is like. Yeah, like, could you fight a bear? Slash. Have you done DMT before? That's the meme.
- [74:38]
Linus Sebastian
I think that's dmt.
- [74:40]
Dan
I was gonna. I was gonna mention that, but didn't.
- [74:42]
Luke Lafreniere
Drug.
- [74:42]
Linus Sebastian
Oh, okay. What is it, though?
- [74:44]
Luke Lafreniere
I don't know.
- [74:45]
Linus Sebastian
Dimethyltryptamine As a psychedelic.
- [74:49]
Luke Lafreniere
You have not.
- [74:49]
Linus Sebastian
Well, yeah, I mean, obviously, but, like, what's it. Well, what's Its colloquial name?
- [74:55]
Dan
DMT.
- [74:56]
Luke Lafreniere
When. Vs. Joe Rogan in a cage. That would end poorly.
- [74:59]
Linus Sebastian
Yeah, he might be old, but he's still a lot bigger than me.
- [75:03]
Luke Lafreniere
He's gonna do one of those spinny kicks and send us into orbit.
- [75:10]
Linus Sebastian
Dimitri and Fantasia. Schedule 1 controlled substance in the United States. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Okay, okay. So it's.
- [75:19]
Luke Lafreniere
By other names.
- [75:19]
Linus Sebastian
It's called dmt.
- [75:21]
Luke Lafreniere
Yeah.
- [75:24]
Linus Sebastian
Okay, well, I mean, now I know about that. So if I ever get into. When I. Yeah, when I start my hookers and blow arc, then I'll have.
- [75:33]
Luke Lafreniere
Another dmt and bears.
- [75:36]
Dan
I would work in Vancouver, I'll tell you that.
- [75:47]
Linus Sebastian
Please tell me the bear thing was intentional. I'm sorry.
- [75:55]
Dan
I'm gonna shut up now.
- [75:57]
Luke Lafreniere
Oh, man.
- [75:59]
Linus Sebastian
I mean, I feel like I'm overdue for a real scandal, you know? Like, I feel Like, I feel like to put in con. To put things in context, I need to, like. Like, run over some orphans or something, you know, because then me, not. Me not talking about, you know, a sponsor that we haven't worked with in three years will be. Just. People will be able to put it in the correct context, you know? Yeah, like, come on, tell me. Tell me. What. What. What scandal do you guys want? You want, like, a good one?
- [76:29]
Luke Lafreniere
Not. Yeah, you know, don't run over orphans.
- [76:34]
Linus Sebastian
Give me something, you know, speeding. Come on. I mean, that. That was another. That was another funny one to me. Just because, like, the fact that every other car. YouTuber does blur their Speedo, does that make what they're doing, like, any. The fact that they successfully blur their speedo, does that make it, like, better? Like, I'm not saying that it's a good thing to do that you should just rip around on public roads.
- [77:01]
Luke Lafreniere
Wasn't he in a school zone?
- [77:03]
Linus Sebastian
He was. There was a. I didn't really. There was a children at play sign of some sort, but I don't think there's any concrete evidence that it was, in effect. It may have been time delimited.
- [77:14]
Luke Lafreniere
Got it.
- [77:14]
Linus Sebastian
Okay. Like, dude, there was that. There was that scrapyard wars when I was literally texting while driving in scrapyard wars. And I'm not saying that's good and you shouldn't do that. It was a different time, for real. And that's not a good excuse. Like, distracted driving is terrible.
- [77:35]
Luke Lafreniere
Yeah.
- [77:35]
Linus Sebastian
I'm just saying that, like, it was. It was. It was interesting to watch how eager people were to, like, nail Marquez to the cross for that one. And I'm not saying what he did was right and the timing sucked. Coming right on the heels of the.
- [77:56]
Luke Lafreniere
I think that's most of it, to be honest.
- [77:57]
Linus Sebastian
Yeah. I don't know. I feel like a lot of what's gone on with us has been blood in the water. A has been a significant amount of residual anger that goes all the way back to adblock is piracy.
- [78:10]
Luke Lafreniere
Yeah, probably.
- [78:11]
Linus Sebastian
I think that was our first thing where people felt, like, personally attacked, even though I never said, don't do it.
- [78:17]
Luke Lafreniere
And there's a. There's a certain degree that you get to. I've had this conversation with a few people.
- [78:21]
Linus Sebastian
Yeah.
- [78:21]
Luke Lafreniere
There's a certain degree that you get to when it is encouraged and cheered on by the community to attack a person or a group of people. So it ends up being, like, the safe route. Like, I think. I think I can think of one particular point in time where it was the safe route to throw at us with everything you could.
- [78:45]
Linus Sebastian
Oh, yeah, 100%. So, like, anything else would have gotten you, like, destroyed. Even if you said nothing.
- [78:50]
Luke Lafreniere
Even if you said nothing, you would.
- [78:51]
Linus Sebastian
Have looked like evil or something.
- [78:53]
Luke Lafreniere
So then, like. And that. That residuals for a long time.
- [78:57]
Linus Sebastian
I think it. I don't think it goes away potentially ever. Yeah, I'm not. I'm not convinced it goes away. Okay, so hold on a second. Hold on a second. We've got suggestions, though. We've got suggestions for a proper scandal. Okay, interesting. Linus is actually 6 foot 5. Lied the whole time. That's good.
- [79:19]
Luke Lafreniere
Nice.
- [79:19]
Linus Sebastian
That's good. Drakkis asks, how were the Diddy parties? Dude, if you think I am anywhere near cool enough to be invited to a music industry party, please.
- [79:31]
Luke Lafreniere
Again, Joe Rogan doesn't know who he is.
- [79:37]
Linus Sebastian
Remember when we talked recently?
- [79:39]
Luke Lafreniere
I'm trying to say he's associated today, just before people freak out.
- [79:43]
Dan
It's already starting.
- [79:44]
Luke Lafreniere
Oh, no, that was not my point at all.
- [79:49]
Linus Sebastian
Remember when we were talking recently about, like, celebrities that I've met and I couldn't. I couldn't think of any.
- [79:55]
Luke Lafreniere
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- [79:56]
Linus Sebastian
Like, even Seth Curry. The. The, like, the Lesser Curry. Still great. Still great NBA player. I don't watch. I don't watch basketball, but still, my understanding. I looked at his stats. I creeped the stats and they were good. Still great. But, like, I haven't met anybody. I don't know anybody. I don't.
- [80:15]
Luke Lafreniere
Wait. The Lesser Curry. Who's the Greater Curry?
- [80:18]
Linus Sebastian
Steph. Oh, yeah. They had two kids. They named them Steph and Seth.
- [80:23]
Luke Lafreniere
Wow.
- [80:24]
Linus Sebastian
Yeah. Good thinking.
- [80:26]
Luke Lafreniere
I don't watch. I don't watch. I thought they were the same person.
- [80:28]
Linus Sebastian
No, not even. Okay, yeah, not even. Oh, yeah. I met Dead Mouse. I mean, Joel's kind of niche famous too, though.
- [80:37]
Luke Lafreniere
I think so.
- [80:38]
Linus Sebastian
Like, he's like, if you're into EDM.
- [80:40]
Luke Lafreniere
Now, I think so.
- [80:41]
Linus Sebastian
And you don't know who deadmau5 is, you're like. Like a cultural moron, basically. But if you're not into EDM and you don't know who deadmau5 is, like, yeah. Like, he had, like, one song on the radio. Like, let's Be Real. And I think in our age bracket.
- [80:58]
Luke Lafreniere
And pretty much everybody knew.
- [81:00]
Linus Sebastian
I think pretty much everybody knew. But outside of that, please.
- [81:02]
Luke Lafreniere
Yeah, that's probably true.
- [81:03]
Linus Sebastian
Yeah. Come on.
- [81:04]
Luke Lafreniere
Yeah.
- [81:05]
Linus Sebastian
And Joel's super cool. Nothing. Nothing against him or anything, but when. When you talk like, like, famous, famous. I mean, I did meet Paris Hilton.
- [81:14]
Luke Lafreniere
Okay.
- [81:15]
Linus Sebastian
I was in the same room and I met her.
- [81:17]
Luke Lafreniere
Were you in the same room?
- [81:18]
Linus Sebastian
I complained about her.
- [81:19]
Luke Lafreniere
Did you meet her? Were you complaining about her in the same room?
- [81:23]
Linus Sebastian
She uploaded that Christmas video of her naked. So I would say that. I would say that I've actually seen more of her than most people in my life.
- [81:35]
Luke Lafreniere
That is not. That is a. Wow. That is a very positively parasocial thing for everyone that enjoys Onlyfans. I think all the Onlyfans enjoyers are like, yeah, I know them.
- [81:48]
Linus Sebastian
I've seen a lot of them. Yeah, she's disrupting the market. If.
- [81:54]
Luke Lafreniere
If. If Joe Rogan did know who you were and invited you, would you go on?
- [81:59]
Linus Sebastian
I think I would probably leave it to the management team.
- [82:03]
Luke Lafreniere
It's like. I think it'd be fine.
- [82:05]
Linus Sebastian
I'd probably have. Well, then you feel free to cast your vote. But I don't think I'd weigh in on that. I think that's. I think that's something I'd let the team decide because that way I get plausible deniability. I can just be like, yeah, the executive team sent me here. I just work here because I really. I honestly don't.
- [82:21]
Luke Lafreniere
Fairly true.
- [82:21]
Linus Sebastian
I don't really have an opinion. I've. I've seen clips, like I said, I've. I've come across the odd clip. I've never actually liked. Sat through an entire podcast, but I've seen clips here and there that make it look like a very, very stupid thing. But I've also seen clips that seem to have intelligent people and some semblance of, like, a coherent intellectual conversation. So I don't really know what to make of it.
- [82:45]
Luke Lafreniere
Yeah, I don't know. I just think things like that, like, if you keep your head about you, like, whatever. I don't know. It's just talking.
- [82:58]
Linus Sebastian
Man. We discover Linus pays people to play games for him. That could be. That could be something. Nah, there's the plague. You guys got nothing. You guys got nothing.
- [83:09]
Dan
Badminton center is a drug front.
- [83:11]
Linus Sebastian
Oh, that's not bad.
- [83:12]
Luke Lafreniere
That's pretty good.
- [83:13]
Linus Sebastian
Yeah, there's.
- [83:14]
Luke Lafreniere
There's. There's shipping bays on the back.
- [83:16]
Linus Sebastian
Shuttlecocks. More like mule penises. Like mules, like, for drugs?
- [83:23]
Luke Lafreniere
Yeah.
- [83:23]
Linus Sebastian
I don't know.
- [83:24]
Luke Lafreniere
Okay. All right.
- [83:26]
Linus Sebastian
Yeah. And they're big. Lots of drugs. Big mule penis drugs.
- [83:31]
Luke Lafreniere
I don't know, like aphrodisiac.
- [83:34]
Linus Sebastian
I don't know the lingo. Okay.
- [83:36]
Dan
I think it's panda.
- [83:42]
Linus Sebastian
Oh, man. What else we got here?
- [83:45]
Dan
Shuttlecocks. You could have a cock Fighting reign.
- [83:47]
Linus Sebastian
Oh, man. Even in the flow plane, it's amazing how many people, like, actually believe some of the stuff that is just, like, not true at all. Someone said someone committed suicide because of you. That's not true at all. That is true. That is absolutely false. I have personally verified that. That is absolutely false.
- [84:07]
Luke Lafreniere
Yeah.
- [84:07]
Linus Sebastian
And it's just. It's. It's so bizarre the way that someone can say something about you online and it becomes. And it becomes canon in some people's heads. And you can never reach a hundred percent of them. You can never reach 100% of them again.
- [84:24]
Luke Lafreniere
Luke is actually allergic to chicken and rice.
- [84:27]
Linus Sebastian
Oh, that would throw off my whole worldview.
- [84:35]
Luke Lafreniere
What does it mean?
- [84:37]
Linus Sebastian
Maybe his allergy is that it engorges certain parts of his body.
- [84:42]
Luke Lafreniere
Oh, no.
- [84:43]
Linus Sebastian
Which would actually work out great given what he cooks his famous chicken for. For his 100% success chicken rate.
- [84:53]
Luke Lafreniere
That could be. That could be quite convenient, actually.
- [84:55]
Linus Sebastian
Winner, winner, chicken dinner indeed. I love that your mom watches the show.
- [85:04]
Luke Lafreniere
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Very good.
- [85:09]
Dan
Okay, talking of Luke's private parts, do you want to do sponsors?
- [85:13]
Linus Sebastian
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Luke Lafreniere
I've never seen that before.
- [87:05]
Linus Sebastian
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- [88:44]
Luke Lafreniere
Yep.
- [88:45]
Linus Sebastian
First up is David with his console tier list, perhaps the most high effort tier list video ever made. Says David, the Cleopatra of the tier list format. Can you tell the guy writes for for a living David says, I loved making this video because it fell outside of our comfort zone. I especially liked the challenge of coming up with visuals for the longer storytelling bits like the paper puppet show during the Sony intro or the CRT A roll during the Sega bit. Only video game Dunkey has a more popular console. Tier list. I am very proud of how this one turned out. Yeah, this one has been a slow burn out of the gate. It actually did not perform very well for us. But over time it has it. Oh it's, it's cranking.
- [89:31]
Luke Lafreniere
Very clickable.
- [89:31]
Linus Sebastian
Yeah, it's doing great. And you can, you can see that like to view ratio. Very solid. Very solid. They, the team outdid themselves on this one. It was an extremely high effort video. And it's long like putting together a high effort edit like this for a 10 minute video. That's, that's a lot of work putting it together for a 30 minute video. And it never, it, it never slows down. Like the, the, the, the, the quality of this video is just outstanding. They did a really good job.
- [89:59]
Luke Lafreniere
I think it's pretty interesting that the highest replay spike is not the final tier list.
- [90:04]
Linus Sebastian
I think it's because everyone just like.
- [90:06]
Luke Lafreniere
Tier list is a high spike but not the highest.
- [90:08]
Linus Sebastian
I think everyone just kind of knows like it's PlayStation.
- [90:12]
Luke Lafreniere
Yeah.
- [90:13]
Linus Sebastian
And there was some really like interesting stuff like this, this bit. Even though a lot of people know the history there, David did a great job of providing a really excellent and fast summary of it.
- [90:28]
Luke Lafreniere
Yeah, for sure.
- [90:30]
Linus Sebastian
All right, next up we've got Adam. I built the world's biggest gaming tv. I can't believe Linus took this down to build a stupid badminton center. We were there till like 1am and it was worth every minute. You got that one up yet? Yeah. This was legitimately an unforgettable experience. Unforgettable. Dan was there. Dan wasn't even working.
- [91:06]
Luke Lafreniere
No one told me I would have been there.
- [91:07]
Linus Sebastian
Yeah, I know. I'm sorry.
- [91:09]
Dan
Yeah, they called me like four hours late. I think I arrived at like 11pm Scammed. Absolutely worth it.
- [91:14]
Linus Sebastian
It's hard to even get a sense of the scale of it. Like it's, it's enormous.
- [91:20]
Dan
It's bonkers.
- [91:22]
Linus Sebastian
So cool though. And like watch. Even just watching Dan play flight Sim on it.
- [91:28]
Luke Lafreniere
You played flights?
- [91:29]
Linus Sebastian
Yeah. I mean, yeah. I said at the time I, it felt more immersive to me than VR just because of like, oh, unlimited fov. Yeah. Look, there I am.
- [91:42]
Dan
Oh yeah, you were driving the car. The car was bigger than a real.
- [91:46]
Linus Sebastian
Like you can see the couch.
- [91:48]
Luke Lafreniere
Yeah. Wow.
- [91:52]
Linus Sebastian
Like, dude, so cool.
- [91:56]
Luke Lafreniere
That's nuts.
- [91:57]
Dan
Those walls are.
- [91:59]
Luke Lafreniere
Wow, 30, 35ft tall.
- [92:02]
Linus Sebastian
I think 32.
- [92:03]
Dan
32. Yeah.
- [92:05]
Linus Sebastian
Yeah. And, like, the fact that we lucked out, and it was actually slightly over 2000 inches dance. So we got to meme on Frank's 2000 inch TV.
- [92:17]
Luke Lafreniere
Yeah.
- [92:18]
Linus Sebastian
Like, oh. Oh, I loved it, man. This is. This is amazing, because I didn't even remember either of those.
- [92:27]
Luke Lafreniere
Yeah.
- [92:28]
Linus Sebastian
Our writing team and our editors work on a lot of videos. Yeah, I. I work on. Okay. How many writers we got? 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6. I'm gonna also count myself seven, because I do write videos from time to time. So I literally work on six to seven times as many videos as them. So there are things that I just. And all the streams blank on. I. I didn't remember that either of those were this year.
- [92:54]
Luke Lafreniere
We.
- [92:54]
Dan
We do were this year.
- [92:56]
Luke Lafreniere
Yeah. It feels like they were longer ago.
- [92:58]
Linus Sebastian
Dude, we do cool stuff.
- [92:59]
Luke Lafreniere
Oh, yeah.
- [93:00]
Linus Sebastian
We like, actually very awful stuff. Crying out loud. Yeah. Plouf says his favorite. No way. No way.
- [93:08]
Luke Lafreniere
Is working on it.
- [93:10]
Linus Sebastian
This one.
- [93:10]
Luke Lafreniere
Got it.
- [93:12]
Linus Sebastian
Oh, wrong one. I have two weeks to file a dispute for this cam tv. Okay. It is the hardest that I think I have ever seen Plouffe laugh in the years that we have been working together. So you got to skip forward. It's probably gonna be a view spike. Forward, forward. Way forward. Look for the big one at the end. This is probably it. That's got to be it. So there's a point here where he realizes. Wait for it. That's inside the glass, by the way. Yeah. He realizes that the only person he knows who's stupid enough to get ripped off by this thing is sitting right next to him. Have you ever. Have you ever seen a man so happy?
- [94:09]
Luke Lafreniere
Oh, man.
- [94:11]
Linus Sebastian
No acting could ever be that pure and that genuine. The mirth. The mirth that this man felt. So he says. He says, just like Jake Tyvey, I enjoy wasting Linus's money. Also, apparently, once the refund was finally gonna happen, support ghosted us. Did we not get a refund?
- [94:35]
Luke Lafreniere
Oh, boy.
- [94:36]
Linus Sebastian
Oh, you know, we've had to dial back the, like, references to, like, wasting my money and stuff in videos because people get so hung up on it. They're like, oh, Linus flexing his money again. Or, like, it's not even his money. It's the company's money. Is it like. Like, people get so mad about it. What they don't understand is, I don't write. I don't Write that into the videos. The team writes that into the videos. They think it's funny. Like, what do you want? And so I have to sit there and tell them, yeah, this thing that you enjoy and you think is, like, genuinely funny to meme on. Because people will get upset on behalf of the team. They'll be like, yeah, Linus flexing his money in front of his team that can't afford this, but they cracking Chinese TV or whatever. But they're the ones who love it.
- [95:23]
Luke Lafreniere
That's pretty funny.
- [95:27]
Linus Sebastian
All right, what else we got? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Alex obviously was gonna pick this one. The Mighty Car Mods Collab. Coincidentally, Plouffe's least favorite video. Ploufe says, not my least favorite, but I do wish y'all had, like, one extra day. Thanks Customs, for delaying the engine because it took a while for them to actually get it driving ready for him.
- [95:50]
Luke Lafreniere
Oh, okay.
- [95:51]
Linus Sebastian
Yeah, it was sitting in 105 for, like, in the next couple weeks.
- [95:54]
Luke Lafreniere
Oh, wow.
- [95:55]
Linus Sebastian
This is such a great moment for these.
- [95:57]
Luke Lafreniere
That was pretty cool.
- [95:58]
Linus Sebastian
So awesome having them all in the engine bay there. I love it.
- [96:01]
Dan
I have a response from Plouffe here about the tv.
- [96:04]
Linus Sebastian
Oh. Oh, what do you say?
- [96:06]
Dan
Let's see.
- [96:07]
Linus Sebastian
Let's see. Wow. Ploufe with the game sense to message the producer rather than messaging me. I think that's a first for Wan show.
- [96:13]
Dan
No, I messaged Plouf.
- [96:14]
Linus Sebastian
Oh, all right, then.
- [96:16]
Dan
That's my wife.
- [96:19]
Linus Sebastian
Nice.
- [96:19]
Dan
Or we can Both take the L's. I don't know. We'll share. I like sharing. L's?
- [96:22]
Luke Lafreniere
Two L's?
- [96:23]
Dan
Yeah, they make a W. Let's see. AliExpress is offering a partial refund but not telling me the amount. I said I either want to return it or get a full refund. They closed the case. Oh, okay.
- [96:41]
Linus Sebastian
Case closed then, I guess.
- [96:44]
Dan
Yeah. Let's see. Visa. Visa. They reached out to visa. Basically, both TVs are lumped in the same purchase. And AliExpress, they've appealed five times.
- [96:58]
Linus Sebastian
So they've appealed the chargeback.
- [97:01]
Dan
You have. You've purchased two TVs.
- [97:05]
Linus Sebastian
No way I should be able to get my money back. What's the point of chargeback if I can order the wrong thing and they just get to be like, yeah, it's a Chinese inch. What's a Chinese inch?
- [97:14]
Luke Lafreniere
Wait, did they say that?
- [97:16]
Linus Sebastian
Yeah. What they said? Yeah, our inches are different from your inches.
- [97:20]
Dan
Oh, no, I think the Visa is a separate thing.
- [97:22]
Linus Sebastian
Oh, okay, okay, okay. All right, well, we'll figure it out. We'll figure it out.
- [97:25]
Dan
If Plouf says if it makes you feel better. The video did get 3 to 5 million views.
- [97:30]
Linus Sebastian
What's 3 to 5 million? Plouf does have access to this dashboard. Did he say that or are you. Are you saying that that's what?
- [97:37]
Dan
That's what.
- [97:37]
Luke Lafreniere
Oh, my God. This is real.
- [97:39]
Linus Sebastian
What's up? Okay, so yes, that's true. But the TV then should be bigger, not smaller.
- [97:49]
Luke Lafreniere
Oh, right.
- [97:50]
Linus Sebastian
Yeah. So we. We measured it every possible way, and also there's multiple Chinese inches, and Andy talked us through it. So. So we. Yeah, so we. We. We measured it. If it was centimeters, it's not right. If it was Chinese inches, it's not right. And if it was regular inches, it's not right. It's just completely invented. Like it's. It's nothing to do with anything on any measuring tape anyway.
- [98:23]
Luke Lafreniere
Okay.
- [98:27]
Linus Sebastian
All right, let's keep going. Elijah. Really? Huh?
- [98:35]
Luke Lafreniere
Ad.
- [98:36]
Linus Sebastian
Yeah. If only there was some way to. Because you know that we're going to do the next thing. Queue up the. Okay, it doesn't matter. The point is, his favorite was. Why did you make me build this? The CEO PC build. This was his second time water cooling. He was apparently super nervous. P.S. when are we selling the poster? The video hit 100,000 likes. Okay, so there's a poster at the end if you go to Taryn's office. Yeah, just anywhere in his office. So that poster, I think. I think we are going forward with it. I don't think it's going to be that big, but yeah, you guys did. You did reach a hundred thousand likes. So there's no real avoiding that at this point.
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Luke Lafreniere
Pope, he was able to get rid of the chair, which is great. He still has to use. I think he still has the keyboard.
- [99:33]
Linus Sebastian
He still has the computer and the.
- [99:35]
Luke Lafreniere
Computer, which is loud and annoying.
- [99:38]
Linus Sebastian
That's not my problem. So that sounds like. That sounds like a CEO issue.
- [99:42]
Dan
If it reduces the performance poster soon, probably in January.
- [99:46]
Linus Sebastian
Really?
- [99:47]
Dan
This is from Nick.
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Linus Sebastian
Like, yeah, I forgot. Like, it's during the work day today.
- [99:51]
Dan
There will be an option to buy the big one. Yeah, that's why I reached out.
- [99:55]
Linus Sebastian
No way. The. Oh, my gosh. Okay, I responded to this. I didn't realize that it was a segment for WAN show. I said I love all my videos equally. That's like asking me to pick my favorite child. He actually put a screenshot of that from teams in there. But I really enjoyed the 3D home theater video, even if no one else cared about it. It was pretty cool to put Together like a true Cinema grade passive 3D setup. The number of people that provided advice to me on how I could have done it better or cheaper by using active shutter glasses or whatever. It's like, bro, I followed 3D pretty closely. I am aware of shutter glasses. I did it this way because I wanted passive 3D with glass optics. I have never seen anything as good as the 3D setup that was in my house. It was awesome. The only thing that I would like to do differently is I would like to get my hands on a higher quality DLP projector. I also, I also learned about another type of filter that could help me make non DLP projectors. Like, like make the light polarizable or something. As a whole. I forget what it's called. Anyway, I linked Elijah to some articles in case we were going to do a follow up but the video didn't get views so we probably won't. But I'd like to get my hands on some better DLP projectors with lens shift so that I could perfectly align the images and then. Oh man. Oh, so cool. I, I, I would totally have that set up. Maybe as part of like whale land or something. I also really enjoyed doing the Equinix tour. I always love getting access to places other people don't get to go. It's one of my favorite perks of this job. Like, oh, so cool. And then the last one that came off the top of my head was the motherboard repair video. That was probably the most pure joy and like exhilaration that I have felt filming a video in at least a couple of years. Just like stacking up those W's. Although we have one coming. Oh no, this one came out already. The one where the, the wife threw the guy's PC out the window. Yeah, the three story balcony when he asked for a divorce. We got. Have you watched it?
- [102:12]
Luke Lafreniere
I've gone through parts of it.
- [102:13]
Linus Sebastian
Oh, okay. We got all but one component working.
- [102:18]
Luke Lafreniere
Yes, I did know that.
- [102:19]
Linus Sebastian
All but one.
- [102:20]
Luke Lafreniere
Wait, no, I think I did watch the whole thing.
- [102:22]
Linus Sebastian
Yeah, that was super awesome.
- [102:24]
Luke Lafreniere
I was very surprised.
- [102:25]
Dan
I've also got another response here from Nick Light. I'm on vacation. You, Linus. I'm not working.
- [102:34]
Linus Sebastian
I'm on vacation. You, Linus.
- [102:36]
Luke Lafreniere
There's a blank in there.
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Dan
No, he said you Linus. I'm not working.
- [102:39]
Linus Sebastian
You, Linus. What's you blank.
- [102:42]
Luke Lafreniere
You, Linus.
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Dan
You, Linus.
- [102:44]
Luke Lafreniere
Oh.
- [102:47]
Dan
You, Linus.
- [102:48]
Linus Sebastian
Nice.
- [102:49]
Dan
God, I hope my button works.
- [102:51]
Luke Lafreniere
Doesn't for us.
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Linus Sebastian
Jordan said, I'm on vacation. Adam, please stop messaging Me. Nice. And then Bell's favorite was. You might feel a little pressure. The Ludwig Swipe plus bidet short circuit. That was actually a lot of fun.
- [103:09]
Luke Lafreniere
What?
- [103:09]
Linus Sebastian
Oh, sorry. Sorry. I just assumed you wouldn't bother clicking it. Wow.
- [103:15]
Luke Lafreniere
That was the only one that's had an ad like, this one didn't have an ad on it.
- [103:18]
Linus Sebastian
That was awesome. How many views did this get? We should hire this guy. 850,000 views on a bidet. Yeah, absolutely. Natural talent. I mean, I told him this when he came up here. I was like, if there's anything. I think. I think I actually said this on the yard. But the guy is an S tier personality.
- [103:36]
Luke Lafreniere
Yeah.
- [103:37]
Linus Sebastian
Like, just. You could probably put him in front of anything with anyone doing anything they do pretty well, and he would just. He'd, like, figure out the vibe, settle in, and just perform like the guy is. Yeah. Just absolutely S tier good what he does. Okay. Oh, Sammy. Sammy picked a favorite one. I haven't watched this video. You haven't watched your own setup, Doctor?
- [104:15]
Luke Lafreniere
That's weird.
- [104:16]
Linus Sebastian
No way.
- [104:17]
Luke Lafreniere
I feel like I would watch mine.
- [104:18]
Linus Sebastian
Yeah. He says he has a hard time watching himself.
- [104:21]
Dan
Oh, I'm the same. I haven't watched mine.
- [104:23]
Linus Sebastian
What? Oh. What? Okay.
- [104:29]
Dan
I was working up the courage to, but.
- [104:31]
Linus Sebastian
Well, anyway. All right. Yeah, he said that was his joke answer, and then his real answer was, this is how we make an LTT video. 20, 24. This was outstanding. And I didn't even know about it until I watched it. The team did such an outstanding job of this video. Going through the entire process in, like a.
- [104:51]
Luke Lafreniere
This is super cool.
- [104:53]
Linus Sebastian
I don't know. I don't know how to describe why it's so much better than the way that we've done it in the past, but I think this might be the best, like, dislike ratio on float plane.
- [105:04]
Luke Lafreniere
You just ruined it now.
- [105:05]
Linus Sebastian
No, they won't. Float plane's not like that.
- [105:07]
Dan
I'm gonna do it. What?
- [105:09]
Linus Sebastian
Dan, no. Float planes. Not like that. They don't respect that. Yeah. So, yeah, he said it was a video idea he wanted to do for over a year and.
- [105:18]
Luke Lafreniere
Don't. Sammy.
- [105:19]
Linus Sebastian
Outstanding. Exclusive. Are you kidding me right now?
- [105:30]
Dan
Hold on. I can block mods.
- [105:32]
Luke Lafreniere
You can?
- [105:32]
Linus Sebastian
Yeah. Do it. Ban him. Ban him from floatplane. Okay. Adam added some other stuff. Some stats. 844 million views on the channel this year. 172 million hours of watch time. 234 LTT videos, 59 live streams, 34 shorts. 126 floatplane exclusives, including behind the Scenes and exclusive live streams and themed weeks.
- [106:05]
Luke Lafreniere
Themed weeks are sick.
- [106:06]
Linus Sebastian
640,000 new subscribers. Oh, we have some most viewed videos. Can you guess the top three? Okay, well, I know one of them.
- [106:13]
Luke Lafreniere
I have a theory for one of them, which I'm very surprised. Wasn't mentioned at all.
- [106:17]
Linus Sebastian
Oh, really?
- [106:17]
Luke Lafreniere
Up above.
- [106:19]
Linus Sebastian
I know the top one is the. Ooh, hold on.
- [106:23]
Luke Lafreniere
I have a theory of what one it is. Should I write it down?
- [106:27]
Linus Sebastian
Yeah, you can write it down. But I know it's. I know it's one of two. It's. Oh, shoot. Oh, it's one of three. Oh, shoot. I think the top viewed video on the channel for this year is actually the Samsung Folding Displays short from ces.
- [106:42]
Luke Lafreniere
That isn't what I thought and that isn't what I wrote down. Interesting.
- [106:46]
Linus Sebastian
Oh, we didn't count that, apparently. So I think we. I think we might have gotten it wrong. I guess they're only counting vod, but. Yeah, no, the top performing other than that would have been the underwater scooter, but that's another short. Or the Taiwan PC.
- [107:01]
Luke Lafreniere
Okay, I wrote down Taiwan.
- [107:02]
Linus Sebastian
Yeah, yeah, that one far and away outperformed everything else this year.
- [107:05]
Luke Lafreniere
Yeah.
- [107:06]
Linus Sebastian
I'm gonna sort by views here. I think. Oh, I don't know, over 10 million. Is that enough zeros? I don't even know. Yeah, yeah. So this short from January of 2024 got almost 13 million views. Yeah, this one got a lot, but it's from the previous year. And then the. The underwater scooter one I think did like 8 or 9 million or something like that. So hold on, let's have a look at. Let's have a look at what Adam's got. So can you guess? Top three? Yeah, I knew that one off the top of my head. As for the next one, man, I don't know. We actually played this game recently and I had no idea. When we did the 16th anniversary stream, I had no idea what like top performing videos were from the channel. I don't spend nearly as much time in the dashboard now that it sucks so much.
- [107:53]
Luke Lafreniere
Yeah. So yeah, the other three I knew Taiwan PC was gonna smash. Other than that crap, I feel like the. The iPhone video is going to be up there somewhere.
- [108:05]
Linus Sebastian
No, no, it's like, good. I think it's got like 3 million, 2.9 million or something.
- [108:10]
Luke Lafreniere
The next segment is commented. I bet you it's up there for that one.
- [108:19]
Linus Sebastian
Most views, though, because the giant TV was last year, right?
- [108:25]
Luke Lafreniere
Was it?
- [108:25]
Linus Sebastian
I think the giant TV was last year.
- [108:29]
Luke Lafreniere
Oh, you don't mean like the. The projector set up at the badminton center? Yeah, no, because that one. I just saw that that one had almost, like 4 million views, I think.
- [108:36]
Linus Sebastian
Okay, I give up.
- [108:37]
Luke Lafreniere
I don't know.
- [108:38]
Linus Sebastian
Oh, wait, what? Oh, that's such a hack.
- [108:41]
Luke Lafreniere
What?
- [108:41]
Linus Sebastian
The second one totally is. The TV Hint wasn't published this year, so I put. Oh, it's the ones that got the most views this year. Okay. I'm giving myself some credit for that one because I only excluded it because I thought it was ones that were published this year.
- [108:56]
Luke Lafreniere
Yeah, fair enough.
- [108:56]
Linus Sebastian
Okay. I don't know what the third one is. I don't know what the third one is. No way. This. This one, like, bombed out of the gate. 5.3 million 3. Yeah, this one did not do well. Hold on. I'm not. I'm not logged into the right account here, but let's go. Let's go find it. I'll show you guys. Like, this one, it was supposed to be like. Like a sequel to a top performer. Because this is EVGA classifying.
- [109:29]
Luke Lafreniere
Wow.
- [109:30]
Linus Sebastian
Yeah. So, like, dude, this started. Come on. This started, like, at the low end of typical.
- [109:39]
Luke Lafreniere
Yep.
- [109:40]
Linus Sebastian
And then just reached escape velocity and then just has not slowed down. 15,000 views today. Like, just casually racking them up. Yep.
- [109:52]
Luke Lafreniere
That 30,000 views last 48 hours for a video that old is crazy.
- [109:57]
Linus Sebastian
It doesn't happen that much anymore. It used to be how our entire channel growth was architected.
- [110:02]
Luke Lafreniere
We talked about.
- [110:03]
Linus Sebastian
Yeah. Was just. You make evergreen content, and it just, like, gets views forever. But only a few of them. Only a few of them break out like that.
- [110:12]
Luke Lafreniere
Yeah.
- [110:13]
Linus Sebastian
All right. What was our bonus fourth? They left this in my driveway. The Cleveland's Scorpion gaming chair. Yeah. Yeah. There you go. That's such a great.
- [110:23]
Luke Lafreniere
I forgot that was this year.
- [110:24]
Linus Sebastian
And the fact that. That. That. That title is not clickbait. Like, that's actually what happened. We ordered the thing and they just dumped it, like, in the driveway. We didn't even sign for it. Like, they just left it there. Like, really?
- [110:40]
Luke Lafreniere
That seems a little silly.
- [110:41]
Linus Sebastian
Absolutely wild. Okay, most commented video with 13,000 comments. That's got to be the iPhone video. There's no way. Oh, no. It was the. The $5,000 PC in the Taiwanese tech mall. And then the next one was April Fools. That. That checks out.
- [110:57]
Luke Lafreniere
Oh, man. Are none of them. The iPhone video is the last one. The iPhone.
- [110:59]
Linus Sebastian
The last one was the iPhone video.
- [111:00]
Luke Lafreniere
Oh, okay.
- [111:01]
Linus Sebastian
10,800 comments on. I really tried Apple iPhone 30 Day Challenge. I'm still using it. By the way, but only because I'm lazy. And migrating WhatsApp off of iPhone, I've heard is even worse than migrating WhatsApp onto the iPhone. So I'm really not looking forward to that because I. I used to lose my chat history all the time, and that's one of the reasons that I stuck with the Note 9 for so long.
- [111:23]
Luke Lafreniere
Honestly, I don't know why people keep using WhatsApp, to be honest. I mean, I've never understood how it survived.
- [111:31]
Linus Sebastian
It's fine, but, like, the.
- [111:33]
Luke Lafreniere
So is everything else. Everything's fine.
- [111:37]
Linus Sebastian
It's where my chat history is. You keep losing it. No, no, I haven't lost it in, like, six years.
- [111:42]
Luke Lafreniere
Oh, okay.
- [111:43]
Linus Sebastian
Yeah, I used to lose my chat history all the time. Like, I didn't even. I didn't even realize with. Because, like, text message migration would be really sloppy unless you, like, went and did it at the store or with, like, the proper app or whatever. So.
- [111:56]
Luke Lafreniere
I'm not saying a lot of people don't still use it. Tons of people still use it. I just don't understand why.
- [112:01]
Linus Sebastian
And then, like, losing my WeChat history was super inconvenient at one point. I don't know if you recall that.
- [112:06]
Luke Lafreniere
Yes.
- [112:07]
Linus Sebastian
But I had a lot of people accuse me of impropriety because I didn't have WeChat receipts for something. I'm like. I didn't even realize it didn't cloud backup. I don't know. Just, like, China not have the cloud. Like, Okay, I thought they keep everything. I'm sure somebody has it.
- [112:22]
Luke Lafreniere
Yeah. Can you give it back to me, please? At least a copy.
- [112:27]
Linus Sebastian
And then. Yeah, WhatsApp, the migration just, like, kind of, like, kind of sucks. Like, you can at least use it across multiple devices now, which is a big upgrade.
- [112:38]
Luke Lafreniere
This is what I mean.
- [112:39]
Linus Sebastian
Yeah, I know, I know. I get it.
- [112:40]
Luke Lafreniere
I don't. I don't understand.
- [112:42]
Linus Sebastian
I get it. It's just. It's been. It's been pretty sticky because almost everyone I know uses either that or Facebook messenger, and Facebook messenger is. Is, like, the predominant one for, like, organizing group events, and then WhatsApp is the big one for, like, group chats.
- [113:00]
Luke Lafreniere
Yeah. What? When is your heart out? Is it 17 minutes from now?
- [113:04]
Linus Sebastian
No. Yeah.
- [113:06]
Luke Lafreniere
Oh, six.
- [113:07]
Linus Sebastian
We got time.
- [113:08]
Luke Lafreniere
Okay. Sweet.
- [113:08]
Linus Sebastian
As for our best, like, ratios of the Power Color Factory tour at 99.8%.
- [113:16]
Luke Lafreniere
Honestly, no surprise.
- [113:17]
Linus Sebastian
That was a cool video.
- [113:18]
Luke Lafreniere
That was a wicked video.
- [113:18]
Linus Sebastian
That was an awesome video.
- [113:19]
Luke Lafreniere
It was tied, though.
- [113:21]
Linus Sebastian
Tied with. Hello, old friend. Media Ripping explained. That was A thick video.
- [113:27]
Luke Lafreniere
Yeah.
- [113:27]
Linus Sebastian
Like it was dense.
- [113:28]
Luke Lafreniere
Yeah.
- [113:29]
Linus Sebastian
Very like information heavy. How did that end up performing?
- [113:33]
Luke Lafreniere
That's what I'm checking. Yeah.
- [113:37]
Linus Sebastian
Hello, old friend. Here we are. Bring up the dashboard. Yeah. See this is. This is more typical these days where even something that performs really well.
- [113:47]
Luke Lafreniere
Flat lines high. But. Yeah, but only because it got there.
- [113:53]
Linus Sebastian
Started high. Yeah. In August it had 1.54 million, like for contrast.
- [113:57]
Luke Lafreniere
What's it. Yeah. Last 48, 20, 22, 30.
- [113:59]
Linus Sebastian
Yeah. So basically dead. So this kind of like how to rip media or whatever information. The only reason this shot up like this is because it had a really good title and thumbnail and then that's it. It's like they're not going to keep. They're not going to keep serving this. Bummer. YouTube's. YouTube's just different now and you have to adapt to the matter or you die.
- [114:22]
Luke Lafreniere
Knowing that a lot of Evergreen just dies and knowing that the audience is actually surprisingly cyclical, would you consider remaking old videos? Because I know that was a thing that you were hardline on. No. In the past.
- [114:35]
Linus Sebastian
Yeah, absolutely.
- [114:35]
Luke Lafreniere
Yeah.
- [114:36]
Linus Sebastian
At this point. Yeah.
- [114:37]
Luke Lafreniere
It seems like it makes sense now.
- [114:38]
Linus Sebastian
Especially because like there's. There's new information that, you know, hadn't come out or we didn't know or has changed.
- [114:46]
Luke Lafreniere
Yeah. Or you can just do a better job potentially.
- [114:48]
Linus Sebastian
Yeah.
- [114:49]
Luke Lafreniere
Like a lot of them, especially from like the really early days.
- [114:51]
Linus Sebastian
How to water. Cool. A PC. The last guide you'll ever need in 4K.
- [114:55]
Luke Lafreniere
Yeah, sure.
- [114:56]
Linus Sebastian
You know, or whatever.
- [114:57]
Luke Lafreniere
Yeah.
- [114:57]
Linus Sebastian
Like we could. I think we could even go back to some of the old like NCIX tech tips the green. Like there are. There are videos that I literally haven't made because I'm like, ah, no, we. We did that on ncix. Hold on. Nix. Here we go. Ultimate water cooling guide.
- [115:18]
Luke Lafreniere
Yes. Thirteen years ago, buddy. We've been doing this for a while.
- [115:23]
Linus Sebastian
I know, right? This was pretty early Luke shot.
- [115:27]
Luke Lafreniere
Yeah.
- [115:29]
Linus Sebastian
Luke tried to figure out water cooling, but turns out he lied on his resume so he didn't know anything.
- [115:36]
Luke Lafreniere
That was one of the fun moments when he left me to water cool two GPUs and just left the room. But I've never water cooled anything before. I've done no water cooling before and I had to take the ears off to GPUs. That was terrifying.
- [115:49]
Linus Sebastian
Yeah, well, he didn't do it. I ended up having to do it. No, no. I came back and I. I think you weren't done yet. I think I had to at least help. Yeah, that's probably I was like, you've been doing, you've been here for so long. What's taking so long?
- [116:01]
Luke Lafreniere
That wasn't entirely true. We've talked about this a few times. Because you didn't actually give me very much time.
- [116:06]
Linus Sebastian
There were other parts you didn't have enough time for. You definitely had enough time when I wanted those heat sinks stripped off.
- [116:12]
Luke Lafreniere
Okay, that's perfect. Probably fair.
- [116:13]
Linus Sebastian
This and the Last 1 at 99.06% was the sensible tech upgrade. That was Sebastian's dude. His place is so styling.
- [116:22]
Luke Lafreniere
That was a really good video.
- [116:23]
Linus Sebastian
Yeah.
- [116:25]
Luke Lafreniere
Honestly, the tech upgrades in general are just like, pretty awesome.
- [116:28]
Linus Sebastian
I, I, I love the tech upgrade series.
- [116:30]
Luke Lafreniere
2.1 million. Wow. That's not even that old.
- [116:33]
Linus Sebastian
Yep. They're just, they're just reliable. They're just reliable. Our team is so cool that all you have to really do is like hang out with one for a bit and then. Yeah, like, people love them.
- [116:43]
Luke Lafreniere
And this place is so interesting. All these little projects are so interesting. Yeah, not even little all is like incredibly professional projects.
- [116:50]
Linus Sebastian
Yeah, that's a lot of, and the team puts so much work into stuff these days. Like those little extras, like the amount of work that went into just having an entire like couple of master cartons of screwdrivers on the island. There's like, it's extra, I think is the term for it.
- [117:07]
Luke Lafreniere
Yeah.
- [117:09]
Linus Sebastian
Discussion. Question. How did you feel about 2024? What'd you achieve? Any surprises, disappointments? It was a tough year. 2024 was a really tough year. We were coming off of, we were coming off of some allegations that, you know, after, after the investigation was completed, we, we released our statement that said the, the, the investigation found that the allegations were unfounded and unfairly. So, you know, going through all of that when the allegations were, according again to the investigation, unfounded and unfair was extremely challenging for me personally and for us as a company. You know, I think that weighed on.
- [117:58]
Luke Lafreniere
A lot of people pretty heavily.
- [117:59]
Linus Sebastian
Yeah, for sure. For sure. And, and there was a lot of stuff that, there's a lot of stuff that people didn't see behind the scenes that made it, that made it really hard. What we achieved, I think is we, we got our groove back. We, we're, we're back to, we're back to kind of killing it. It's always, it's always cyclical. Like, I think we talked in that recent all hands about how we're like back to, you know, before viewership and it's a little down this month, but, you know, it do be like that though. I mean I think there's going to be a lot of people upgrading when 50 series comes out. I think there's going to be a lot of buzz around that. So there'll be some, some upswing there and then it'll be down again. It'll be up and you know, whatever. Right. Yeah. Dyslexic stoner says. I'll admit I stopped watching for a while. I couldn't stand having another person I like turn out to be a monster. Was glad it wasn't true. Yeah, no, there was a. There was a big.
- [118:59]
Luke Lafreniere
Quite a bit of that.
- [119:00]
Linus Sebastian
There was a big. Yeah, there was a big group of people that just stopped watching and there's a significant group that, you know, if their comments are to be believed, have never come back. And that's sad. That's really sad. And it's still sad for me.
- [119:23]
Luke Lafreniere
I think it's true. Yeah. Because there's also like that stuff went so far and wide Will. You'll never be able to reach all of those people again. Yeah.
- [119:33]
Linus Sebastian
Yeah. Really tough. As for. As for what's. Welcome to the next quarter of a century. Oh my goodness.
- [119:42]
Luke Lafreniere
Yeah.
- [119:43]
Linus Sebastian
Did you know Star Wars 1977 was released closer to the year 2000 than any video we made this year? I'm just gonna close that topic. Why don't we move on? Yes. Yes, let's do that. There's a Fake Nintendo Lawyer Sending Out DMCA Takedowns A few months ago, YouTuber Dominic Domtendo Neumajer received DMCA takedowns on his Legend of Echoes of Wisdom Let's Play videos. However, after some back and forth with The Tatsumi Masaki ProtonMail.com account, Domtendo reached out to Nintendo itself, who responded that the emailer was not using a legitimate Nintendo email address. A few weeks later, the YouTuber received a follow up from that same email with a short message. I hereby retract all of my preceding claims. Although the threatening email would start to come from A spoofed anti piracy 3 Nintendo Co JP email rumors of fake takedowns from Big Red last circled when Garry's mod removed all Nintendo related fan content after receiving DMCAs originating from suspicious looking emails. The developer claims to have verified the source, though Nintendo and partners have also been accused of using AI tools to issue mass takedowns. That was just a quick. A quick topic. I want to talk about this one. This is called My experience as a Winner Turned into Disqualification by Nvidia and this was actually Flagged for me before the show. Like just. Just a little while before the show. This was posted 6 hours ago on the forum. But this poster in our community said they were officially declared a winner and their project was publicly listed on Nvidia platforms. They were supposed to win a winner.
- [121:34]
Luke Lafreniere
Yeah, winner.
- [121:35]
Linus Sebastian
I think it was. Yeah, here we go. An Nvidia RTX 6000 added generation graphics card. So like a really valuable GPU. And then after declaring them a winner and sending them through a bunch of hoops, they apparently were disqualified for reasons that Nvidia has not apparently been able to properly explain. So they've just asked us to highlight this because I hope, I like to assume, you know, incompetence where. Where malice has not yet been proven, where hopefully by getting some visibility on this, we can at least get them a satisfactory answer. So what they're asking for is if anyone from Nvidia reads this, I respectfully ask for my project to be reviewed by a team of qualified technical experts. My only goal is to ensure fairness and transparency. Thank you all for taking the time to read this. I appreciate any help that you can provide. So they provided a link to their project to their GitHub repo. So that's on there. Just wanted to make sure that we. We kind of highlighted that we like to make sure that we're taking care of our community members. And this seemed like. Seems like there's got to be something going on here. They should at least get an explanation. Oh no. Do you want to do the AI stuff?
- [123:04]
Luke Lafreniere
Oh no. I didn't even know this. By a vote of 4 to 3, the Arizona State Board for Charter Schools approved an application to open a fully online school which will serve grades four to eight. That doesn't automatically sound all that bad. Unbound Academy hopes to use a AI to condense academic instruction into a two hour window, which now sounds really bad. To free up time for life skill workshops covering financial literacy, public speaking, goal setting, entrepreneurship, critical thinking and creative problem solving.
- [123:41]
Linus Sebastian
Which sounds great, except in theory.
- [123:46]
Luke Lafreniere
Quote. As students work through lessons on subjects like math, reading and science, the AI system will analyze their responses. Time spent on tasks and even emotional cues to optimize the difficulty and presentation of content.
- [124:02]
Linus Sebastian
That sounds ambitious. Good luck with that.
- [124:06]
Luke Lafreniere
Wow, that sounds like. That sounds like a Stanley parable style video game level of issue when it would be applied to the workplace. And this feels like to me some amount of desensitization before it it's applied to the workplace. But we'll see. Unbound Academy has been trialing this two hour learning method in Texas seemingly in person and has applications to open other schools in Arkansas and Utah. Experts have questioned the effectiveness of personalized education programs and have called it Orwellian. An Orwellian misnomer for replacing teachers with digital services and data mining software. Yeah. Much of the criticism stems from the lack of clarity behind the term.
- [124:53]
Linus Sebastian
Yep.
- [124:53]
Luke Lafreniere
Personalized learning is perhaps like personalized ads, I. E. Data collection, a form of doublespeak, says Adam. And I strongly agree. Discussion. Question. Do you think kids need that real connection with teachers in order to do well?
- [125:10]
Linus Sebastian
I'm gonna stop you right there. Yeah, not necessarily.
- [125:13]
Luke Lafreniere
Oh, I. You.
- [125:13]
Linus Sebastian
But what they definitely need is a real connection with other students.
- [125:17]
Luke Lafreniere
Oh, yeah.
- [125:19]
Linus Sebastian
100%. And in theory.
- [125:21]
Luke Lafreniere
Good point.
- [125:21]
Linus Sebastian
This is freeing up time for life skill workshops covering financial literacy, public speaking, goal setting, entrepreneurship, critical thinking, and creative problem solving. In practice, homeschooling is an extremely poorly regulated area. I strongly recommend watching the John Oliver segment on it.
- [125:45]
Luke Lafreniere
Oh, cool.
- [125:46]
Linus Sebastian
Yeah. And I'm not saying that you have to agree with John Oliver on everything, but what I will say is that as far as. As far as background research goes, they do a pretty darn good job. And this just feels like. This just feels like homeschooling with extra steps.
- [126:08]
Luke Lafreniere
To me. It feels like if you're going to have a problem kid, it's just going to be exacerbated so much because without someone there being able to do something about it, I don't know, what if they just frown at the AI camera for like five minutes? What does it do? Nothing.
- [126:28]
Linus Sebastian
Nothing.
- [126:29]
Luke Lafreniere
Does it make the tasks easier because it detects kid is upset? Like, I don't know. Assuming that every single kid is just gonna do this perfectly seems.
- [126:42]
Linus Sebastian
But I mean, assuming every kid is gonna do traditional school perfectly, you know, it's not. Right.
- [126:48]
Luke Lafreniere
The whole reason why the teachers are there or a big part of it.
- [126:51]
Linus Sebastian
But I mean, not every teacher is great.
- [126:53]
Luke Lafreniere
I mean, I definitely agree.
- [126:55]
Linus Sebastian
You know, one of. One of my most frustrating experience, every.
- [126:58]
Luke Lafreniere
Person had at least one bed.
- [126:59]
Linus Sebastian
Yeah. One of my most frustrating experiences being in school was knowing from having parents who were teachers and from having my teachers who were teachers and, you know, seeing a little bit of the inside baseball, knowing that competency was not necessarily the most important attribute for keeping your job and getting promotions and raises.
- [127:20]
Luke Lafreniere
Yeah.
- [127:20]
Linus Sebastian
Seniority.
- [127:21]
Luke Lafreniere
Yeah.
- [127:22]
Linus Sebastian
Politics. You know that. And that's not how. Yeah. That's not how things should be done. Right. Anyway. Yeah. Good. Good luck, Arizona. I. I am deeply worried about the. I'm deeply worried about education.
- [127:46]
Luke Lafreniere
Top Gear said no. There will be a baseline and it'll be monitored. It won't be so easy. They graduate below level. Yeah, but you can't fail kids anymore.
- [127:54]
Linus Sebastian
That's a whole thing.
- [127:56]
Luke Lafreniere
So, like, actually it totally could be. I don't know. I don't have a great answer and I'm not in that field. I don't have a kid. But education doesn't feel like it's going in a fantastic direction. The no feel bad for the kids.
- [128:15]
Linus Sebastian
The no Child Left behind paradigm feels like. It feels sort of, Conrad says a good idea like, or a warm idea that in practice. I just don't really understand why we're still giving it any credence.
- [128:37]
Luke Lafreniere
Conrad says my mom is a teacher and says the upcoming generation is not okay. And I don't think it's their fault, to be super clear at all. I. I think the. The current powers that be are setting them up for failure. I don't. I don't think it's the kids. Yeah. Anyways.
- [129:02]
Linus Sebastian
Yeah. Inventor 2 Boy 5 says yeah, that's what my sister's telling me too. She's a teacher too. They are super uninterested in learning. Yeah. I'm. I'm reminded of that famous misattributed quote that is not actually from Peanuts. And Linus didn't actually say this in the strip, but. So good.
- [129:36]
Luke Lafreniere
That's pretty good. Yeah.
- [129:39]
Linus Sebastian
It stuck with me though.
- [129:40]
Luke Lafreniere
Yeah. I mean, it feels like that, Right?
- [129:44]
Linus Sebastian
Yeah. Actual attribution. Assata shakur. All right. OpenAI outlines new for profit corporate structure. Nice. They've outlined a plan to change their corporate structure by transforming its for profit arm into a public benefit corporation. A company structured to balance the interests of society with shareholder shareholder value. Which should make securing investors easier. They recently completed a $6.6 billion funding round 4 billion from Amazon alone and currently have a 157 billion valuation. The proposed change comes after Elon Musk dropped a lawsuit claiming a for profit structure would be illegal. Musk and Sam Altman worked together for nine worked together nine years ago to launch OpenAI as a non profit with the mission statement to develop generative AI for the benefit of society. Musk left in 2018 after seeming frustrations over the company taking billions in funding from Microsoft. Also failing to gain a majority stake in the company for himself. Might have had something to do with it. Yeah, yeah. There's been the whole thing with the.
- [130:45]
Luke Lafreniere
Might have suddenly made that.
- [130:47]
Linus Sebastian
Yeah. Yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep. Anywho, that's it for our topics. Oh, Dan left. Cool. Well, we're gonna switch to After Dark when Dan comes back. In the meantime, I could read some.
- [130:59]
Luke Lafreniere
Off if you want.
- [131:00]
Linus Sebastian
Oh, what happened to the. Oh, I have another GoFundMe that unlike the one we talked about earlier, is not a downer and. Oh, hey, look at that.
- [131:12]
Luke Lafreniere
Pass this goal.
- [131:13]
Linus Sebastian
Let's go. Wait, did we. Oh, okay. Well, I mean, you know what, that's cool. Some anonymous person yesterday donated a thousand dollars. Reboot. Rewind has a GoFundMe. You guys can feel free to resurrect this iconic animated show from my childhood. It's actually the first fully computer animated TV show. Here's some footage. Yep, pretty awesome. You guys can check that out there. I did not end up stalling for very long. No.
- [131:50]
Luke Lafreniere
Do you want me to read some off?
- [131:52]
Linus Sebastian
Oh, yeah, we could do that. Or we could wait for Dan. They'll wait.
- [131:56]
Luke Lafreniere
Okay.
- [131:57]
Linus Sebastian
Oh, we don't actually have a lot of time to kill though.
- [131:59]
Luke Lafreniere
That's what I'm.
- [131:59]
Linus Sebastian
Yeah, I kind of have to, I have to leave at some point. Okay.
- [132:02]
Luke Lafreniere
There aren't a ton of them either, though.
- [132:04]
Linus Sebastian
Oh, has Dan been filtering a lot of them?
- [132:05]
Luke Lafreniere
There's only 10.
- [132:07]
Linus Sebastian
Oh, okay. They apparently people just don't care about leaving merch messages. Yeah, because there was bought a lot of backpacks.
- [132:17]
Luke Lafreniere
I think he also was maybe pretty aggressive with the curating because there was a decent amount of merch messages.
- [132:22]
Linus Sebastian
Hey, I'll let you guys know how many discount codes are left. We are down to mental. Math is hard. We're down to about 3, 500. So we have a couple videos that are queued to go up this weekend that have call outs for the commuter bag.
- [132:37]
Luke Lafreniere
It's after dark time, Dan, and I'm.
- [132:40]
Linus Sebastian
A little worried that we might have to YouTube editor, like cut out the part referring to the discount code. We'll see how it goes.
- [132:47]
Luke Lafreniere
Burn so many of them. Yeah.
- [132:51]
Linus Sebastian
Yeah, let's do it.
- [132:53]
Dan
I must have missed a topic change. Sorry about that.
- [132:56]
Linus Sebastian
No, you're good, Dan. Don't even trip, dog.
- [132:58]
Dan
I'm tripping.
- [133:03]
Linus Sebastian
Look at that. Now it's dark.
- [133:05]
Luke Lafreniere
So good.
- [133:06]
Linus Sebastian
Dude, I, I, I have been an absolute lump for the last two days. I don't remember the last time I did less. I didn't even, I didn't even respond to social messages. Like, Luke messaged me over the holiday actually with some, some stuff that probably merited paying attention to.
- [133:30]
Luke Lafreniere
I was a little surprised you didn't respond. I was like, okay. I mean, it's fine. He's probably busy.
- [133:36]
Linus Sebastian
So. So initially, initially I just had a lot of family stuff going on up until the 25th or until the 25th. And I think I've, I think I've updated you on like my family being a little complicated right now. So that was a little.
- [133:51]
Luke Lafreniere
I assumed there was stuff going on.
- [133:53]
Linus Sebastian
I wasn't bothered by it. And then, and then on the 25th and the 26th, I. I went and played badminton with my in laws and my son.
- [134:03]
Luke Lafreniere
Nice.
- [134:03]
Linus Sebastian
And other than that, did literally actually nothing. And then yesterday I went and played some badminton in the evening because I looked at my step counter and I had like 400 steps. I did actually nothing. So you probably saw me on steam like all day yesterday. Like I would.
- [134:24]
Luke Lafreniere
Nah, yesterday was my family's Christmas.
- [134:26]
Linus Sebastian
Got it.
- [134:27]
Luke Lafreniere
Yeah.
- [134:27]
Linus Sebastian
So if you'd been on your computer, you would have seen me on steam doing absolutely nothing. I am substantially ahead of you in Final Fantasy 6 and I only played yesterday and a little bit in the evening the day before.
- [134:42]
Luke Lafreniere
You know, it shouldn't be an always thing, but it's, it's not a bad idea to slow down every once in a while.
- [134:47]
Linus Sebastian
I don't remember the last time that I've done it. And you know what? It was kind of glorious. But. But at the end of the day yesterday, I was like, really, brother? Okay.
- [134:57]
Luke Lafreniere
Back on the horse.
- [134:58]
Linus Sebastian
So I dragged my. I dragged my butt to Smash. I played for a couple hours. Hours. And then I jumped on the StairMaster for 10 minutes. I found out my step rate. By the way, the, the speed that I'm doing is 133 steps per minute. So. Whoa. It says 350 watts on the.
- [135:14]
Luke Lafreniere
Wow.
- [135:15]
Linus Sebastian
On the thing. So I only did, I only did 10 minutes.
- [135:19]
Luke Lafreniere
No, but I think that's really good.
- [135:20]
Linus Sebastian
I only did 10 minutes of that yesterday. But what I've been doing before when I told you that I would cycle between the machines is I've been trying to do half an hour. And so I've been doing. For rowing, two minutes for every 500 meters is about the pace that I target.
- [135:38]
Luke Lafreniere
Yeah.
- [135:38]
Linus Sebastian
And then for the StairMaster, I've been doing that. So I've been doing 133 steps per minute. And then for the bike, I've been targeting about 140 watts. So that was, that's my like half an hour continuous that I've been trying to do. I've fallen off the wagon a little bit over the last couple days as I, as I already told you. But when the, when those badminton players Come out here for the collab. I want to be at the point where I can comfortably do half an hour of continuous, like, crazy cardio. Rod.
- [136:17]
Luke Lafreniere
We both read that at the same time.
- [136:21]
Linus Sebastian
I want to be able to do 15 minutes continuous on the StairMaster at that speed. And I didn't expect that from Rod. And then I'm gonna bookend it with the bike and the rower.
- [136:31]
Luke Lafreniere
Nice.
- [136:32]
Linus Sebastian
So I'm thinking I'll go, oh, man, what will I. What will I do? Yeah. Because the bike is really tough on the thighs, too. I might have to find, like, a third cardio machine that's not just pure legs.
- [136:42]
Luke Lafreniere
Oh, the. You. Isn't there an elliptical there?
- [136:44]
Linus Sebastian
Oh, yeah, that's true.
- [136:45]
Luke Lafreniere
Elliptical is your most well rounded whole body one that you have.
- [136:49]
Linus Sebastian
Okay, yeah, maybe I'll do.
- [136:50]
Luke Lafreniere
I push for that one.
- [136:51]
Linus Sebastian
Maybe I'll do elliptical then. So I could do.
- [136:53]
Luke Lafreniere
But you gotta actually operate the handles.
- [136:56]
Linus Sebastian
Yeah, well, I'm gonna need to, because my legs will be dead.
- [136:58]
Luke Lafreniere
Yeah.
- [136:58]
Linus Sebastian
So maybe I could do the elliptical last so I could row and then jump on the StairMaster and then do the elliptical for the last five minutes.
- [137:08]
Luke Lafreniere
Pull it into your.
- [137:09]
Linus Sebastian
Yeah, I know.
- [137:10]
Luke Lafreniere
Yeah. Yeah.
- [137:11]
Linus Sebastian
I did try out for the rowing team.
- [137:13]
Luke Lafreniere
Oh, nice. Yeah.
- [137:15]
Linus Sebastian
Yeah. That's as far as I gotta make it. They did invite me. They did invite me. Oh, to be the coxswain.
- [137:20]
Dan
Yeah.
- [137:21]
Luke Lafreniere
Light.
- [137:22]
Linus Sebastian
Yep. And loud.
- [137:24]
Luke Lafreniere
Yeah. Oh, yeah.
- [137:25]
Linus Sebastian
Piercing.
- [137:26]
Luke Lafreniere
Makes sense.
- [137:28]
Linus Sebastian
All right. Hit me. Dan.
- [137:29]
Dan
Hi. What big house upgrades or projects do you have in the works? I struggle with permanent modifications. For example, throwing holes in the walls. So I love watching home upgrades.
- [137:39]
Linus Sebastian
Okay.
- [137:41]
Dan
Okay.
- [137:42]
Linus Sebastian
I am gonna do this. I want to build, like, an epic catwall, like, with all the, like, things and the things and the ropes and the things they can climb and stuff. I want the entire upstairs hallway, essentially.
- [137:55]
Luke Lafreniere
Oh.
- [137:56]
Linus Sebastian
To be just, like, cat. Jungle. Jungle. Jungle gym, not jungle.
- [137:59]
Luke Lafreniere
Nice.
- [138:00]
Linus Sebastian
Yeah, I. And I would honestly. I would. We can never close doors in our house, so I would honestly love to work out some kind of, like, tunnel system so they can get in and out of rooms. The problem is that.
- [138:11]
Luke Lafreniere
So that. Then you could close doors. Is that. Yeah.
- [138:13]
Linus Sebastian
For my room, I do have sound isolation requirements, you know, and so I would.
- [138:22]
Luke Lafreniere
That. That's good. Really?
- [138:23]
Linus Sebastian
Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So what I was kind of thinking is maybe what we could do just.
- [138:29]
Luke Lafreniere
Get, like, a plug because the cats.
- [138:31]
Linus Sebastian
Whine if we close our door. But if we had just a hole, then there would always be sound leakage, which is not better.
- [138:39]
Luke Lafreniere
Yeah.
- [138:39]
Linus Sebastian
So what I'm kind of Thinking is maybe I could. Maybe I could make like a cat thing. And then they could go into, like, a tunnel that takes them up through the attic to somewhere else on the cat thing. So they could get in and out of our room all the time, but we could just close our door, so. Or something like that so that there wouldn't be a clear path for.
- [139:03]
Luke Lafreniere
You could make like a baffles, basically, that they have to, like, walk through.
- [139:08]
Linus Sebastian
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. I think something like that would be cool. Don't worry, they're not going to go up in the attic. We'll enclose it, obviously. Come on, guys. Give me some credit here. Give me some credit here. Other than that, like, I don't know, fixing the roof, solar. Oh, the light switches. Oh, man. Because we've actually had, like, two days off. Yvonne's been learning to crochet because, like, her husband's busy playing video games. I guess time to. Time to go full old lady. And she's been, like, reaming me about our horrible light switches because I need an ellie to hurry up and get me those millimeter wave switches. Yeah, I think those are the big ones.
- [139:49]
Luke Lafreniere
They are pretty horrible.
- [139:50]
Linus Sebastian
Yeah, they are pretty horrible. They do just turn off all the time.
- [139:55]
Luke Lafreniere
Next up.
- [139:57]
Linus Sebastian
Sure. Clapped K24 accord. Says I'm an insulator. I always find it hilarious when parents soundproof their bedroom. It's a very common option. Yeah, I mean, that's considered.
- [140:09]
Luke Lafreniere
It's a good thing.
- [140:10]
Linus Sebastian
It's considerate.
- [140:11]
Luke Lafreniere
Yeah. Why not consider it healthy bedrooms?
- [140:16]
Dan
No, soundproofed. The kids don't have to hear all the fighting.
- [140:20]
Linus Sebastian
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's it. Yeah.
- [140:22]
Dan
There you go. Family friendly. Well, maybe.
- [140:25]
Luke Lafreniere
So much worse.
- [140:26]
Linus Sebastian
Yeah, actually worse.
- [140:27]
Luke Lafreniere
So much worse.
- [140:29]
Linus Sebastian
Literally worse.
- [140:31]
Dan
Linus, Luke, and Dan, how do the three of you individually maintain the desire and effort levels to keep working on your hobbies? How do you keep pushing yourselves to be better at your jobs?
- [140:42]
Linus Sebastian
Well, you guys push me to be better at my job, so. So there's that. I mean, I. I think we also push ourselves a lot. As for maintaining effort levels for my hobbies, do I. Badminton? Badminton. I do. I do. I'm highly motivated to be better at it. I. It's. The motivation for me is that it counts as exercise. So I don't feel like I'm wasting time when I'm playing badminton unless I sign up for a session. That's like, tournaments feel like a waste of time. Those are an indulgence. If I play a tournament, I know that I'm playing, like, 20% of the time. And I could have easily done a lot of other stuff in that time. Um, but no, that. That's the easy.
- [141:25]
Luke Lafreniere
Do you see tournaments as, like a. A benchmark, though?
- [141:27]
Linus Sebastian
Absolutely.
- [141:28]
Luke Lafreniere
Check where you're at. Yeah.
- [141:29]
Linus Sebastian
Oh, dude. We actually, My team, instead of coming eighth like last year, we came ninth this year. But I actually, I. I don't mind that result. It doesn't actually feel like a downgrade, especially for me personally, because the only reason we're ninth is because our first match at 9am on the first day was the one that determined that we would have no shot at the top eight.
- [141:49]
Luke Lafreniere
Oh.
- [141:50]
Linus Sebastian
Because the way the seating worked, we. We were seated two within our group of four for round robin, and we played number three. And it was close. Their team won three games, ours won two. But two of the ones we lost went to deuce, which is. And one of the ones went to deuce in the third set. So basically that means that's where you're tied at the end and you have to win by two.
- [142:15]
Luke Lafreniere
Yeah.
- [142:16]
Linus Sebastian
So it was really close. And then once that was over, that very first match, the next one was basically a walkover. We played the fourth seed and, like, they, you know, they tried hard and whatever, but there was a different class of team.
- [142:31]
Luke Lafreniere
Yeah.
- [142:31]
Linus Sebastian
And then our. Our last one in our round robin was a walkover for the other team. They were the top seed, and I think they went on to win. So basically, the team that we lost, barely, barely to, they weren't even eighth. They were, like, higher than eighth. But because we lost two in our round robin stage, the best we could do was. And then the following day, we won all the way through.
- [142:56]
Luke Lafreniere
Yeah.
- [142:56]
Linus Sebastian
So we came in ninth.
- [142:57]
Luke Lafreniere
Yeah.
- [142:58]
Linus Sebastian
So I don't even feel that bad about it. And in that first one, I won my game. I. I played men's doubles, and I played against the person that I lost to in my final game the previous year, which was what put us in eighth instead of seventh. And I won. So. So personally, I felt like it was a pretty big upgrade. I played really well. The only games I lost were the one that was against the team that won, and one of the. One of the kids that was on the other team literally plays at, like, a national level, like, currently. Like, okay, whatever. I got a few points. I feel good about that.
- [143:34]
Luke Lafreniere
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- [143:34]
Linus Sebastian
And then the other one I lost. I retired from my team, had already won, so we were just playing for fun, and I hurt my back, and that was, like, in a lot of pain for a Week or two. Like that was when I was telling you I couldn't sneeze. Like sneezing was like incapacitating. I like pulled something. I also got tennis double. I shouldn't have played that last for fun game. It was really close up until I was like, guys, I'm done.
- [143:57]
Luke Lafreniere
Wasn't your ankle like a little bit messed up still at that time?
- [144:00]
Linus Sebastian
Yeah. I had to wear a brace, but it didn't bother me during the tournament.
- [144:03]
Luke Lafreniere
Okay.
- [144:03]
Linus Sebastian
But no, I was like three different parts of your body very injured. Yeah.
- [144:08]
Luke Lafreniere
Not awesome.
- [144:09]
Linus Sebastian
Yeah. And yeah. Oh, man. And to be clear, I'm not gonna make any excuses. They won. You know, when you retire from the match. They won. I'm just saying any match I completed or was not playing someone who, you know, it literally is like almost semi pro. Right. I performed really well. So I was really happy with that.
- [144:28]
Luke Lafreniere
Yeah. Nice.
- [144:29]
Linus Sebastian
Yeah. Pains of getting old, dude. I hear that a hundred percent. One hundred percent.
- [144:36]
Dan
Hey, Dll.
- [144:37]
Linus Sebastian
We never got Luke's answer.
- [144:38]
Dan
Oh, we didn't.
- [144:38]
Luke Lafreniere
What was the question?
- [144:39]
Linus Sebastian
Staying motivated for your hobbies.
- [144:41]
Luke Lafreniere
Oh. Progressive overload, incremental progression. I am addicted to those two concepts. That's pretty much it.
- [144:52]
Linus Sebastian
Yep. Getting old is going to be hard.
- [144:54]
Luke Lafreniere
Oh yeah. I've. I've had this like crisis moment many times where I'm like the thing that drives me on. Like everything is getting marginally better all the time. And when that inverts. Oh no. I don't know what's going to happen in my brain.
- [145:12]
Linus Sebastian
Well, you'll have a middle crisis.
- [145:14]
Luke Lafreniere
Well set up.
- [145:14]
Linus Sebastian
Yeah.
- [145:15]
Luke Lafreniere
For this.
- [145:15]
Linus Sebastian
Yeah.
- [145:16]
Luke Lafreniere
Like I have. I self reflected.
- [145:19]
Linus Sebastian
That's why they call it midlife crisis. It's not midlife happy fun time.
- [145:23]
Luke Lafreniere
Fair enough. I've been thinking like I'm gonna have to.
- [145:26]
Linus Sebastian
You can buy a Porsche.
- [145:30]
Luke Lafreniere
I think I'm gonna have to try to find like, like reduction of incremental decline as something to aim for.
- [145:39]
Linus Sebastian
Yeah.
- [145:40]
Luke Lafreniere
And go like. Okay. Looking at the math of like averages of how people tend to decline at this age. If I can beat that.
- [145:46]
Linus Sebastian
Yeah.
- [145:46]
Luke Lafreniere
By this amount, that's my goal. So yeah. Maybe I'll be slower or, or lift less or not be as good or score lower, whatever the metric is. But if I can have that be by a lower amount than would be expected.
- [146:01]
Linus Sebastian
Yeah. Just set a new benchmark.
- [146:02]
Luke Lafreniere
Yeah.
- [146:02]
Linus Sebastian
I think that's going to be like sucking less.
- [146:05]
Luke Lafreniere
Yeah. Pretty much. Let's go.
- [146:09]
Linus Sebastian
Competitive aging since turbulent.
- [146:12]
Luke Lafreniere
Pretty much. This is, this has been my like, I've been planning for this strat for A long time though because I'm genuinely very concerned about this.
- [146:20]
Linus Sebastian
It can be like that weird Brian Johnson guy.
- [146:22]
Luke Lafreniere
Oh no.
- [146:26]
Linus Sebastian
You basically just described him.
- [146:27]
Luke Lafreniere
I guess got him take 14,000 pills every day. Anyways.
- [146:35]
Dan
Hey Dlo. I've seen more people losing access to their Steam account after being hacked. I'm terrified of losing all my games. What's the best way to protect yourself in the all digital future?
- [146:47]
Linus Sebastian
Don't click on anything.
- [146:48]
Luke Lafreniere
Yeah. Evidence of ownership. Have good to FA set up. Yeah. If you contact support and be like this is clearly me, then you might have a better chance. I don't know. I don't know.
- [147:02]
Linus Sebastian
Yeah. So just take a picture of your driver's license and make that your Steam profile. Sorry, I couldn't even get that out. Don't do that. But it'd be funny.
- [147:11]
Luke Lafreniere
It would be kind of funny. But yeah. Make sure you have FA set up. I don't know if Steam has a logout on all other systems thing. Does it do you know?
- [147:22]
Linus Sebastian
I think so. I think if you log out of Steam it. I think. Yeah, I'm pretty sure it does.
- [147:26]
Luke Lafreniere
Then my other theory won't know.
- [147:27]
Linus Sebastian
If you change your password it'll. It'll log out of every system.
- [147:30]
Luke Lafreniere
Okay. Yeah.
- [147:30]
Linus Sebastian
Yeah.
- [147:31]
Luke Lafreniere
Someone says SMS is not real 2fa. Yeah. Have the. The Steam app. 2fa. Yeah, that's been good for a long time.
- [147:37]
Linus Sebastian
I mean the Steam app kind of sucks, but.
- [147:39]
Luke Lafreniere
No, but the fact that they have.
- [147:41]
Linus Sebastian
Yes, but having it is good.
- [147:44]
Dan
Hello again, parasocial friends. I make training videos for the trucking industry, truck stops to mechanics, etc. Do you think a strict structure is needed for these or would a more YouTube style approach, I guess be beneficial?
- [148:00]
Linus Sebastian
Depends. If you're really good at it, then a conversational casual YouTube style approach would be great if you really need people to like if this is like for certification, you know, like if this is something that, that needs to be covered in a, in a dot all the T's and cross all the eyes kind of way.
- [148:23]
Luke Lafreniere
You might be able to mix it in that case. But you're still going to have to get pretty strict structure.
- [148:27]
Linus Sebastian
Yeah, Yep, I agree.
- [148:28]
Luke Lafreniere
You can, you can like have fun until you get to the, the. The T crossing and I dotting section. And then you need to be pretty strict for a bit to make it like very, very clear what the bounds are and then you can maybe get back to having fun.
- [148:43]
Dan
Hey lld, what greater benefits would emerging content creators get in floatplane compared to Patreon?
- [148:50]
Linus Sebastian
Thanks for all y'all do you could make less money? Yeah, you might like that. You won't know until you've tried it.
- [148:58]
Luke Lafreniere
Floatplane is more of a focus on video. Um, I haven't looked into what Patreon's done for a while on video, but Floatplane really is majorly focused on video to the point where it's probably not as good of a solution if you're not a video creator.
- [149:11]
Linus Sebastian
Yeah. And, and if you're an emerging content creator, that's why I specifically am talking to you. It's, it's not for you. You need to maximize the money that you can get because you need it to eat. And our revenue split is not going to be conducive to that. Our platform is designed for extremely high quality video and audio. And so if you are a large creator and say, for example, you were looking to like white label a platform or something like that, our revenue split is a lot more competitive. Like if your alternate is hiring a development team and building something, yeah, we're going to look stellar.
- [149:50]
Luke Lafreniere
Yeah.
- [149:51]
Linus Sebastian
Whereas if your alternative is like uploading unlisted videos on YouTube or Vimeo or something and then just like, you know.
- [149:59]
Luke Lafreniere
Sending has their, has a native one there.
- [150:01]
Linus Sebastian
I think they have a native one now. But, but the point is just like if your alternative is finding something free and sending an unlisted link to the people who, to the several dozen people who follow you at zero overhead, then you should do that. You know, it's horses for courses.
- [150:15]
Luke Lafreniere
Yeah, there's, there's solutions for everybody. We like Flow Plane. Few other people on the platform seem to really like Flow Plane. There's also a lot of benefits to Patreon. The split is generally better, but it also entirely depends. Like if you, if you, if you set your price to the right price on Floatplane, based on how we do our costing, you can get a better split than there is on Patreon. Most people won't do that, but it is possible because we just have.
- [150:45]
Linus Sebastian
Sorry, no, I just, I had something, something upside down stuck in my throat.
- [150:49]
Luke Lafreniere
We, we have our, our costs are like fixed for creators. So if you, if you balloon, like if you have a super fancy expensive Omega tier, but it doesn't take any extra from us because we have a limit on our features, obviously then we don't take more. So you could theoretically take more, but then you're asking for a lot from your audience at that point. So most people aren't going to do it. So.
- [151:14]
Linus Sebastian
Yeah, unless you have like feet picks on there or something. I don't know.
- [151:16]
Luke Lafreniere
True. We would. We would. I. I don't think we have anything against feet picks technically, and we don't really discriminate.
- [151:25]
Linus Sebastian
It's not a serious conversation, Luke. We don't add it on. Talk about.
- [151:27]
Luke Lafreniere
I'm being real, man. I'm. You don't know. Maybe.
- [151:30]
Dan
Maybe he's trying to sell this, Linus.
- [151:32]
Luke Lafreniere
Maybe the. Maybe the. What would you call the top crit. The. The top foot is watching us.
- [151:39]
Linus Sebastian
I don't.
- [151:40]
Luke Lafreniere
Top creator in the feet picks category.
- [151:43]
Dan
I thought you'd put your foot in your mouth, but the servers probably couldn't handle it.
- [151:50]
Linus Sebastian
The big toe says UCL Buffalo. UCL Buffalo. And full plane chat just won it, you know?
- [151:58]
Luke Lafreniere
You don't know. Maybe the big toes watching, man. We got it. We got to make sure they know that they would be welcome here, because we don't. Yeah, we don't really. As long as it's legal. We don't really discern against creators. Oh.
- [152:10]
Linus Sebastian
All right.
- [152:11]
Dan
Let's see. Hello, Dan, Lynn and Luke. What is the average amount of versions a product go through for?
- [152:21]
Luke Lafreniere
That's all.
- [152:21]
Linus Sebastian
Okay. Product revs and development.
- [152:23]
Dan
Yeah, you got it.
- [152:27]
Linus Sebastian
I think the backpack was about half a dozen each for the commuter and the original. We've been told by our suppliers that we go through an obnoxious number of product revs, and it's actually caused some strain on our relationships sometimes where we'll do half a dozen product revs and just be like, no, it's not good enough. They don't like to hear that. If you don't go to mass production, essentially, they subsidize their sample production with the assumption that you're going to go to mass production. From my point of view, like, that's stupid. Then just tell me how much it costs to make a sample and I'll be happy to. But it's not that simple. Right. There's an opportunity cost on their side. But yeah, I. I would say somewhere between 4 and 7 is about where we're at on. On revisions for products. Some. A lot more. Like for something like the. For something like the screwdriver, you know, we might go through that many revisions for every part. Right. That many revisions for the ratchet, that many revisions for the. The molds. And so the overall number of revisions goes up, like, exponentially the more parts there are in a product. But for socks. For socks, I think we're on like 10 or 12 or something like that. I think we're close, though. I think we're close. The blue Samples that I've. Do I have them on? I don't. The blue samples I've been wearing recently are really good.
- [153:53]
Dan
Hello, Elden. L. What are your thoughts on containerization? I talk about my interest in it at work. All my co workers think it's dumb. What are some other cool things you guys do with it?
- [154:04]
Linus Sebastian
Who thinks it's dumb? Yeah, who are your co workers?
- [154:06]
Luke Lafreniere
Yeah, really? Coworkers that you talk to about this, know what it is, and think it's dumb?
- [154:12]
Linus Sebastian
I don't really understand.
- [154:13]
Luke Lafreniere
I don't know anyone in the field that thinks it's dumb. Genuinely. Zero people. They've never met a single person.
- [154:20]
Linus Sebastian
They want the whole system to crash when, like, monolithic.
- [154:24]
Luke Lafreniere
Only to the point where. When I was reading this, I was like, wait, do they mean, like, physical containers? Because I've. I've never met a single person.
- [154:31]
Linus Sebastian
Far be it for me to criticize someone who sent a $120 merch message, but are you just, like, baiting us? Like, maybe. Because I. I don't. I'm not. I'm not sure if I believe you.
- [154:44]
Luke Lafreniere
Show this to your co workers.
- [154:46]
Linus Sebastian
Yeah.
- [154:47]
Luke Lafreniere
What are they talking about? Maybe they just don't know what it is properly. Like, maybe. Maybe it's more of an education. Education problem.
- [154:53]
Linus Sebastian
Yeah. Maybe they use a different term for it or something. Maybe they think you said a bad word and then a ner.
- [155:03]
Luke Lafreniere
What's the matter? Okay, I like it. What's the matter? In full plane chat, said prime and Theo both complain about Kubernetes and Docker. Yeah, sure. But the solutions that they like are, as far as my understanding goes, generally running on systems where the containerization is just detached from them. It's still happening from the service provider. They just don't have to deal with it themselves because they don't want to do infrastructure, so they just use other services to do it, which is great and popular.
- [155:29]
Linus Sebastian
And, like, I mean, still, containerization.
- [155:31]
Luke Lafreniere
We use Vercel for the labs website. Vercel is still doing containerization stuff.
- [155:37]
Dan
I'm sure it's a concept. It's not a. Yeah, my program is. My co workers think programming is dumb.
- [155:46]
Linus Sebastian
And, like, yeah, it sucks sometimes.
- [155:48]
Luke Lafreniere
I can totally understand why prime and Theo might be like, like, yeah, this sucks. You shouldn't, like, waste your time doing this. As someone who's just trying to spin up, like, a website, you should use, like, this. This service thing. Like, great. Yeah. You probably shouldn't develop your own personal store in 2025 because, like, Shopify exists and you should just use that. That doesn't mean containerization is dumb. That means that you might not want to be the person who's interfacing with it, depending on what you're doing. We use kubernetes to great effect with floatplane. That was not the right approach for the lab's website. Cool.
- [156:31]
Linus Sebastian
Oh, dude, Nick just messaged me. We have removed the discount messaging for the commuter bag from the Sunday and Monday releases.
- [156:40]
Luke Lafreniere
Oh, wow.
- [156:40]
Linus Sebastian
He doesn't think they're going to make it that long.
- [156:42]
Luke Lafreniere
Oh, wow.
- [156:44]
Linus Sebastian
That's crazy. He says he thinks it's gonna be gone tomorrow.
- [156:46]
Luke Lafreniere
All right.
- [156:46]
Linus Sebastian
Well, we'll see. We'll see. Obviously. I hope he's right. All right.
- [156:52]
Dan
LLD my work recently banned third and personal monitors, citing security concerns. But always allow personal monitors work from home two days a week. What do you think? Same computer office and work from home. Phones are allowed on site now.
- [157:07]
Linus Sebastian
Your co workers are stupid.
- [157:10]
Luke Lafreniere
I'm.
- [157:11]
Linus Sebastian
What.
- [157:12]
Luke Lafreniere
I'm assuming this is an IT team currently fighting policy. Yeah.
- [157:16]
Linus Sebastian
You can link them to this video, by the way. You can tell them that Linus says that you made them look stupid by laying out. By laying out their horrible, horrible policy. That actually makes me question whether they are competent enough to run any sort of business at all, let alone one that uses technology. Freaking dunked actual idiots. That is not how any of that works.
- [157:46]
Luke Lafreniere
Banned third and personal monitor.
- [157:48]
Linus Sebastian
Yeah, so they can't have a third.
- [157:49]
Luke Lafreniere
Monitor and they can't bring monitor.
- [157:51]
Linus Sebastian
And they can't bring a personal monitor.
- [157:53]
Luke Lafreniere
Okay, I can understand not wanting people to bring monitors from home, but you're.
- [157:56]
Linus Sebastian
Allowed to use your personal monitor at home.
- [157:58]
Luke Lafreniere
Yeah, but bringing a personal monitor into the workspace, I can understand why that might as a liability.
- [158:03]
Dan
As a liability, but not a. Like.
- [158:06]
Linus Sebastian
If you're allowed to like, look, security.
- [158:08]
Luke Lafreniere
I leave this at the office.
- [158:09]
Linus Sebastian
I don't let people bring their own lenses and tripods monitors. But. But it's not even liability. It's just like. Because that's stupid. If you need something to do your job, then the workplace should provide it. It's that simple. Yeah, right. But. So it's nothing to do with security concerns?
- [158:23]
Luke Lafreniere
No.
- [158:23]
Linus Sebastian
If you are allowed to have your own personal phone with you, everything else is out the window because that is the easiest vector picture. Like what? I'm gonna bring a. I'm gonna bring a special special secret magic monitor with a RASPI embedded in it. So I can use a HDMI RF snooping on the cable signal, beam it to my spy espionage office across the street. Like, obviously.
- [158:53]
Luke Lafreniere
Yeah. Because there's obviously workplaces where that shouldn't be allowed, but they almost certainly also wouldn't allow you to bring phones in.
- [159:01]
Linus Sebastian
Yes.
- [159:01]
Luke Lafreniere
So, like, yeah, they said they use the same PC at home, so. Laptop. Okay.
- [159:10]
Linus Sebastian
But they're allowed a personal monitor, so at home.
- [159:13]
Luke Lafreniere
Yeah, yeah.
- [159:16]
Linus Sebastian
If you can have a phone, you can have essentially your own computer at work. They just haven't figured it out yet.
- [159:24]
Luke Lafreniere
Is this like a have your cake and eat it too thing?
- [159:30]
Linus Sebastian
What?
- [159:31]
Luke Lafreniere
Like, they. They don't want to buy people extra monitors, but they also don't want to be like that workplace that you have to bring your own monitor to. So they're just like, you're not allowed. And also. No.
- [159:41]
Linus Sebastian
Could be.
- [159:42]
Luke Lafreniere
Maybe.
- [159:43]
Linus Sebastian
Yeah. This could be one of those things where they're just hiding behind security concerns.
- [159:47]
Luke Lafreniere
There's no real. I mean. Okay, there is real security concerns. They're just also ignoring all the other bigger, more obvious.
- [159:53]
Linus Sebastian
Yeah, I think that. I think that if they're. If they want to be honest, they should just say no, because if other people see you with a third monitor, they won't ask you if you brought it from home, and they're going to whine and complain until they get a third monitor. And that's not in the budget. Everyone gets two monitors, and I just don't feel like dealing with it. That's the more honest answer, probably.
- [160:12]
Luke Lafreniere
Yeah.
- [160:12]
Linus Sebastian
Almost always there is the reason why you can't have something nice is because someone else it up.
- [160:20]
Luke Lafreniere
Oh, yeah.
- [160:20]
Linus Sebastian
Almost always.
- [160:21]
Luke Lafreniere
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's always so frustrating.
- [160:25]
Linus Sebastian
Or. Or your workplace is a bunch of cheap butt heads.
- [160:28]
Luke Lafreniere
It's super frustrating when you're on the, like, administration side of that and you see it happening and you're like, man, I really wish this person would stop because if they don't stop, I'm gonna have to do something about this.
- [160:39]
Linus Sebastian
Yeah.
- [160:39]
Luke Lafreniere
But this has worked fine for years and years and years because no one's pushed it past this limit. And then you, like, try to get them to stop and they just won't, and then you have to kill it for everybody. And it just sucks.
- [160:50]
Linus Sebastian
I remember having, like, tough conversations with you about stuff that we, like, can't do anymore, and you're like, well, that's stupid.
- [160:57]
Luke Lafreniere
Yeah.
- [160:57]
Linus Sebastian
I'm like, trust me, I know how stupid it is more than you ever will.
- [161:03]
Luke Lafreniere
Yeah. Yeah. It's frustrating.
- [161:05]
Linus Sebastian
There's nothing I can do about it.
- [161:06]
Luke Lafreniere
It's frustrating because, like, there you can. You can interact in good faith in a certain way. But you have to be careful about it because other people might see it and then interact with that thing in bad faith and then it gets turned off for everybody and it's happened a bunch of times. I can. I know I cannot give you examples for reasons that I hope would be obvious.
- [161:28]
Linus Sebastian
Oh, here's a good one. Good comment from Chronified. I'd be willing to bet they're using monitoring software and it has a two monitor limit. So for the work from home setup, it's a laptop with only one display out. That's a good hypothesis. I like it. I like it. I mean the fact that you have your phone still is like stupid or whatever.
- [161:46]
Luke Lafreniere
Personal sighting surgery but allows personal monitors work from home two days a week. They might have a way of doing more than one display.
- [161:58]
Linus Sebastian
Cap.
- [161:59]
Luke Lafreniere
I don't know. That is interesting though.
- [162:03]
Linus Sebastian
Why are you so popular today?
- [162:05]
Luke Lafreniere
I don't know.
- [162:06]
Linus Sebastian
He's so popular. All right, hit me, Dan.
- [162:11]
Dan
Sure. I was just waiting for the interruption to stop. Hi Linus and. Hi Linus and Luke. I would like to game single co op games from my PC to my living room TV. There are around 60ft apart. How would you guys solve this?
- [162:30]
Linus Sebastian
Optical HDMI cable and probably a USB over ethernet adapter. We showed USB two ones that are cheap like, like 10, 15 bucks cheap that can easily do that. Distance. Uh, that's. That would be the, the highest fidelity way. The low fidelity but probably easier way with less wiring would be to just use streaming. So have a thin client and just use like Steam in home streaming or whatever. They've rebranded it to Steam Link or whatever they call it now.
- [163:04]
Dan
What tech were you most sad to see flop or fall out of fashion? I really wish phones with physical keyboards were still improved and made mainstream.
- [163:13]
Linus Sebastian
Hold on. Before we move on UCR Buffalo says why not HDMI to Ethernet adapters too? Because by the time you do that, you've added all of the cost and complexity of an optical cable. Except you're paying for copper now. Fiber is actually cheaper by the foot. It's just the media conversion that's expensive. So if you're going to have media conversion a lot of the time, unless you need to be able to service it in the field, like if you're doing live events or something like that, there's no reason to use like, like HDMI over Ethernet instead of just HDMI over fiber. Also a lot of the HDMI over Ethernet stuff is not like 4k120, whereas you can get fiber optic HDMI cables that will allow you to do the full HDMI 2.1. No, not any lag difference that I'm aware of. It's just, just doesn't make sense like in the home. Okay, sorry. What were you most sad to see flop or fall out of fashion? I mean, 3D is on my mind. So I'm going to go, I'm going to go with that. I'm going to go with that because I've seen some glasses free 3D. That's like really good. Like we could have gotten there. We just. The content's not there anymore.
- [164:20]
Luke Lafreniere
This person said physical keyboards on phones. I don't agree with that, but I do with physical key inputs practically everywhere else. There are some good solutions. Like I'm assuming the one in your car is right.
- [164:35]
Linus Sebastian
It's okay.
- [164:36]
Luke Lafreniere
But actually almost everything else is trash. Especially a lot of public things. Public things that are touchscreen.
- [164:44]
Linus Sebastian
Just like, I don't like touching them.
- [164:46]
Luke Lafreniere
No.
- [164:47]
Linus Sebastian
And occasionally you get ones that have like good rejection. And I can't use my knuckle on them because I don't want to touch them with my fingertips.
- [164:55]
Luke Lafreniere
Yeah.
- [164:55]
Linus Sebastian
Like I was a germaphobe before it got cool in 2020. I don't like touching things. I don't like shaking hands. Like one year I stopped shaking hands at CES and immediately I stopped getting trade show illness.
- [165:06]
Luke Lafreniere
Yeah. I do the same thing now.
- [165:07]
Linus Sebastian
Okay, brilliant.
- [165:09]
Luke Lafreniere
I, I. You used to be able to press physical buttons with like your keys or something.
- [165:14]
Linus Sebastian
Yeah.
- [165:15]
Luke Lafreniere
And now, now you have to touch screen and tons of them are terrible. So you have to do the input like a billion times. Oh, I know. One of the nicest about physical keys is that they almost always do actually work.
- [165:27]
Linus Sebastian
Yeah.
- [165:28]
Luke Lafreniere
And with touchscreen keys, it's often not a very good indicator of if it actually worked or not.
- [165:34]
Linus Sebastian
So even if that says okay, that's gonna defeat the purpose of using my knuckles in the first place for things.
- [165:42]
Luke Lafreniere
You could spit on it, you could hawk to it. There's a reference that makes me old, I guess probably.
- [165:49]
Linus Sebastian
Yeah. That's very slow.
- [165:53]
Luke Lafreniere
Anyways. Yeah. Physical buttons on, on random things. I think high end touchscreens. Having physical, having touchscreen buttons is fine. So phones is fine. There's probably some cars that are fine, but there's also some cars where it's terrible. But in general, just like physical buttons would be better. Yeah. Japan does this super well, by the way. A lot of their stuff is still physical buttons and it's very nice.
- [166:21]
Linus Sebastian
I still think their train ticket kiosks could be improved. I agree Regardless of button type.
- [166:29]
Luke Lafreniere
But I like the buttons.
- [166:31]
Dan
I'm working my dream job at a big tech data center.
- [166:35]
Luke Lafreniere
Nice.
- [166:36]
Dan
The work is fulfilling and amazing, but there are moral implications to working for a major tech company.
- [166:41]
Luke Lafreniere
Oh, so he works for Amazon.
- [166:42]
Dan
Do you have advice for my moral conflict?
- [166:46]
Luke Lafreniere
There's lots of other data centers you could work at.
- [166:49]
Linus Sebastian
Also, could be worse. You could work for an evil company like Linus Media Group who didn't tell anybody.
- [166:57]
Luke Lafreniere
True.
- [166:58]
Linus Sebastian
About me.
- [167:02]
Dan
Dry your tears. With money that helps some amount of.
- [167:05]
Luke Lafreniere
It's like, you got to survive yourself, slash S. And a lot of people will put their own. As I sort of am right now.
- [167:13]
Linus Sebastian
We'll put making sure. Making sure y'all are up to speed.
- [167:16]
Luke Lafreniere
On that on you. So you have to decide where your line is.
- [167:20]
Dan
Your line is.
- [167:22]
Luke Lafreniere
Oh, get it? Line is Linus.
- [167:27]
Linus Sebastian
Anyways, I get it. It's just not funny.
- [167:29]
Dan
Yeah, fair enough.
- [167:30]
Linus Sebastian
No, no, I missed. I missed it. I missed it.
- [167:32]
Luke Lafreniere
I didn't do it intentionally.
- [167:33]
Linus Sebastian
I was busy waiting for. I was busy waiting for chat to. Actually, actually, for the people that didn't hear the segment earlier on the Honey stuff to be like, omg. Is that what he really said about it? Yeah. For those of you who weren't watching earlier, what we said was, hey, we don't really know what you're talking about. We didn't know almost any of this stuff at the time, and we dropped the sponsor years ago. If you're mad, that's great. You should be mad. Be mad at Honey. Be mad at their parent company, PayPal.
- [168:03]
Luke Lafreniere
Yeah. Yeah. I. I don't. There seems to be a perception out there that, like, what you invest in and the job that you have should have zero reflection on you at all. And I don't completely agree with that. I understand that sometimes you're in a life situation where, like, you just don't have another option.
- [168:21]
Linus Sebastian
You don't have the luxury of just, like, taking a stand.
- [168:25]
Luke Lafreniere
Yeah. And that's. So. That's one thing. And I am not shooting at that at all. But. But I will say for myself, I've had extremely lucrative potential job offers that I have not wanted to take because of where they were at, and I didn't take them. So, like, it's not impossible.
- [168:43]
Linus Sebastian
And, like, I must have been awful. I mean, you work here, and we had.
- [168:48]
Luke Lafreniere
We didn't. And we didn't make a video about Honey. So, like, I don't know. There's. It's. It's possible. I also know people that had very good, solid jobs and then took a job somewhere that they didn't like the company and complain about it all the time. And I'm like, this is entirely your fault.
- [169:08]
Dan
Are you just calling me out?
- [169:10]
Luke Lafreniere
Yeah. The prime example is Dan.
- [169:14]
Dan
Have you been reading my blog?
- [169:17]
Luke Lafreniere
But, yeah, like, I don't know. You should. You should care at least a little bit. If it's your only option, it's your only option. I'm not trying to dig you for that. You got to. You got to put food on the table. But, you know, if you have a range of options. Life isn't just about making more and more money 100% of the time, in my opinion.
- [169:35]
Linus Sebastian
Yes, it is. Which is why I never made a video about Honey.
- [169:39]
Luke Lafreniere
Because. Yeah, because you had some form of financial gain there, right?
- [169:43]
Linus Sebastian
Yeah, for sure.
- [169:44]
Luke Lafreniere
Yeah, for sure.
- [169:45]
Linus Sebastian
It's not that Honey was stealing my money.
- [169:47]
Luke Lafreniere
The adsense on that video is. Was very financially beneficial to you.
- [169:51]
Linus Sebastian
You mean the. You mean the affiliate revenue?
- [169:54]
Luke Lafreniere
No, on. On the. On the.
- [169:56]
Linus Sebastian
Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, for sure.
- [169:58]
Luke Lafreniere
Yeah.
- [169:58]
Linus Sebastian
Yeah. Not making that money and also not exposing someone who was stealing from me.
- [170:03]
Luke Lafreniere
Yeah.
- [170:04]
Linus Sebastian
Yeah. That was definitely my motivation.
- [170:06]
Luke Lafreniere
Really? Lined your pockets.
- [170:07]
Linus Sebastian
You got it, dude. The number of times that I see people be like, how is it that Linus spends so much money on this, but he couldn't afford $500 to test something? They're so close. They're so close to the answer.
- [170:28]
Luke Lafreniere
They just need a little nudge. Oh, man.
- [170:33]
Linus Sebastian
They'Re almost there. It's almost like they're nothing to do with each other.
- [170:40]
Luke Lafreniere
All right, next up.
- [170:42]
Dan
Hello.
- [170:43]
Linus Sebastian
I love being an Internet personnel.
- [170:45]
Dan
I'm amazed if you haven't just lost it.
- [170:49]
Luke Lafreniere
You don't know that he has it.
- [170:54]
Linus Sebastian
These are crazy eyes.
- [170:56]
Dan
He hides it well. On camera, at least. Hello from the Netherlands.
- [171:01]
Linus Sebastian
Beat him off camera. Watch him cower. Where the hell's dad?
- [171:07]
Dan
This is me cowering. I don't know why it's pointing over there. Why. Why is it so dark?
- [171:11]
Linus Sebastian
You have let me down for the last time, Dan. Pointing the camera in the wrong place. Don't make me throw things at you again.
- [171:18]
Dan
Which I have actually done and Luke has.
- [171:20]
Luke Lafreniere
Yeah, yeah.
- [171:21]
Linus Sebastian
Luke actually almost hit him that one time.
- [171:23]
Luke Lafreniere
Did I?
- [171:24]
Linus Sebastian
I think so, yeah.
- [171:25]
Luke Lafreniere
Oh, nice.
- [171:27]
Dan
He threw an entire CPU cooler at me.
- [171:29]
Linus Sebastian
Probably had it coming. Me.
- [171:30]
Dan
Yeah, actually did. When Luke threw something at it that was actually extremely warranted. So, yeah, I think. I apologize.
- [171:38]
Linus Sebastian
Is it victim blaming if the victim blames themself? I think so.
- [171:41]
Dan
No, that was actually Stockholm syndrome or something. Not.
- [171:44]
Linus Sebastian
Okay.
- [171:45]
Dan
The other Times have been unwarranted, but that one was like.
- [171:49]
Luke Lafreniere
And to be fair, I threw like a small little coaster.
- [171:52]
Linus Sebastian
Yes, that's right.
- [171:53]
Luke Lafreniere
Yeah, yeah.
- [171:55]
Dan
Hello. From the Netherlands to Linus. Do you have any motorcycle specific tech you love? If I may, what bike do you ride?
- [172:02]
Linus Sebastian
I have an SV650s. It's a 2003. But what bike I ride? Well, none, because it's in pieces and it has been for two years. I'm gonna. I'm gonna do it this time. I'm gonna do it this time. This office. No, I'll be fine. Yeah, I took a long time off before and it's like whatever. You just.
- [172:20]
Luke Lafreniere
It's like riding a bike.
- [172:24]
Linus Sebastian
I don't really have any motorcycle specific tech. I use a pebble for track changing because it has physical buttons. Sure does.
- [172:33]
Luke Lafreniere
And you've got gloves on. Okay, makes sense.
- [172:36]
Linus Sebastian
Time and place for physical buttons. And on. The motorbike is definitely one of them.
- [172:40]
Luke Lafreniere
Yeah.
- [172:41]
Dan
Oh, no.
- [172:44]
Linus Sebastian
What? Did we both click archive at exactly the same time and accidentally archive two cards? Nice. Nice. So weird. My chat's not updating, so I missed everything that chat had to say. Oh, well, I'll live.
- [173:05]
Dan
Just give me a sec here. Let me see if I can find it.
- [173:07]
Linus Sebastian
No, I won't. Anonymous asks, Linus, what was your favorite game server or community back when you were younger? What's your favorite memory from there? Well, I mean, it's got to be the NCIX gaming server. Shout out, Death Hawk. You know who you are.
- [173:24]
Luke Lafreniere
For me? I'm going to answer this anyways, even though I wasn't asked.
- [173:26]
Linus Sebastian
Playing that left four dead. Playing that TF2. Let's go. No life. Ing it.
- [173:31]
Luke Lafreniere
I think it was Halo 2.
- [173:33]
Linus Sebastian
Oh, yeah.
- [173:34]
Luke Lafreniere
Used to play a bunch with some dude named Utah Crusher, which I've never been able to find again.
- [173:42]
Linus Sebastian
Sorry.
- [173:42]
Luke Lafreniere
It was pretty good. But we used to. Yeah, I used to be a part of a community on there. It was mostly myself and Utah Crusher, but there was some other people involved as well where we would just try to glitch everything. We try to glitch out of maps. We figured out that the. The rocket to sword switch thing, I think that was literally us. That's cool. And there. There was. There's a bunch of other cool things too. There's. Whatever the name of the map was really, really small. It was a covenant ship floating platform in the. Floating platform in the middle.
- [174:15]
Linus Sebastian
Platforms of penis. It's really small.
- [174:18]
Dan
Have you just. You've been spending too much time in.
- [174:20]
Linus Sebastian
This pool I've been spending too little time sleeping.
- [174:23]
Luke Lafreniere
I think that's it. And we spent. We spent way too much time because we were kids, but getting these containers to go all the way up the ramps to where the floating platform was. And we had to time it perfectly. We screwed it up a few times. But if you.
- [174:37]
Linus Sebastian
So you're saying you put a box on the penis?
- [174:40]
Luke Lafreniere
Kinda.
- [174:41]
Linus Sebastian
Nice.
- [174:41]
Luke Lafreniere
Yeah. Two boxes.
- [174:42]
Linus Sebastian
Two box. Wow.
- [174:43]
Luke Lafreniere
Yeah. Same time. That was actually the whole. That was a very important part of the equation, the physics of this.
- [174:51]
Linus Sebastian
Sounds painful.
- [174:52]
Luke Lafreniere
Tough. Difficult.
- [174:53]
Linus Sebastian
Okay, I'm sorry. What was the thing. What is it doing?
- [174:55]
Luke Lafreniere
We got the boxes all the way up the ramp and we had to get them onto floating platform at the same time. And that would slam the floating platform in the ground, which would horrifically glitch the whole map out. And it was amazing. We only able to do it once.
- [175:05]
Linus Sebastian
Nice.
- [175:06]
Luke Lafreniere
We're probably the only people that did it, I'm assuming because it took forever and it was really, really stupid.
- [175:09]
Linus Sebastian
I forgot about that really fun gaming session you and I had. Taking the Warthog. It wasn't supposed to go. That was a blast.
- [175:14]
Luke Lafreniere
That's. That's everything I love about Fleet. Almost just said flow plane. Everything I love about Halo is just breaking Halo in horrific ways.
- [175:22]
Linus Sebastian
Nice.
- [175:22]
Luke Lafreniere
Yeah.
- [175:23]
Linus Sebastian
Well, there's also the music.
- [175:26]
Luke Lafreniere
Nice music. Music is pretty good.
- [175:29]
Linus Sebastian
Oh, so good.
- [175:30]
Luke Lafreniere
Care for a diagram? I. I could. I could do like a horrible paint drawing, but I really don't think it's worth it. Yeah. Did we.
- [175:42]
Dan
What?
- [175:43]
Linus Sebastian
Cool. Well, thanks for tuning into the WAN show.
- [175:46]
Dan
Find what?
- [175:48]
Luke Lafreniere
The message we were looking for.
- [175:49]
Dan
That's the one. He read it. He beat me to it.
- [175:52]
Luke Lafreniere
Oh.
- [175:52]
Linus Sebastian
What?
- [175:52]
Luke Lafreniere
That was there on my dashboard.
- [175:53]
Linus Sebastian
Yeah, it was there on mine too. What? All right, we'll see you again next week. Same bad channel. Bye.
- [176:10]
Dan
So this is what gaslighting is.
- [176:14]
Luke Lafreniere
Well, then. No, it's not.
- [176:17]
Linus Sebastian
Damn it.
- [176:17]
Luke Lafreniere
You're wrong.
- [176:18]
Linus Sebastian
There's a leak. And if you're wrong, you deserved it. But how's it going?
- [176:23]
Dan
Gaslighting's not real crazy.
- [176:26]
Luke Lafreniere
It is.
- [176:26]
Linus Sebastian
You made it up.
- [176:30]
Dan
Oh, there sa.