Sora is Dead - WAN Show March 27, 2026

Summary

The WAN Show: “Sora is Dead” – March 27, 2026

Podcast: The WAN Show
Hosts: Linus Sebastian, Luke Lafreniere
Date: March 28, 2026

Episode Overview

This WAN Show episode kicks off “Good News Month” for April, with Linus and Luke focusing on upbeat developments and major shifts in the tech world. The main headline is the shutdown of OpenAI's video generation platform Sora, along with other major topics: legal wins against Meta & Google in social media addiction cases, big updates for Linux gaming, new Intel GPUs, policy changes on US router sales, and more. Throughout, Linus and Luke offer unfiltered, humorous takes, reminisce about the PC building industry, and discuss future channel changes.

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Episode Structure

• Sora and OpenAI’s Strategy Shift [00:51–16:16]
• GPU Market & Intel ARC Weekly Check-In [20:38–33:52]
• Wine 11, Linux Challenge Progress, and Windows Rants [33:27–46:25]
• Router Import Ban & Security Vulnerabilities [51:54–61:04]
• Social Media Addiction Lawsuits Against Meta & Google [69:31–84:43]
• Intel’s Battle Mage and Crimson Desert Support [84:43–87:40]
• Switch 2 Battery Changes & Nintendo News [136:11–141:29]
• Airdrop on Samsung Galaxy & Device Ecosystem Chatter [150:41–154:12]
• Random News, Product Releases, & Check-out Messages [16:49–32:53]
• After Dark: Personal Q&A, Health, Food, and Family Stories [172:11–end]

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Key Topics and Segments

1. Sora is Dead: OpenAI Shuts Down Video Generation [00:51–16:16]

• OpenAI discontinued Sora, their heavily-hyped video generation platform, after burning huge amounts of cash ($15+ million/day at peak estimates).
• Sora faced unclear economics and licensing/legal challenges (including a troubled Disney deal).
• Quote:
  “It was a marketing stunt. A billboard… they clearly didn’t do the groundwork ahead of time to deal with licensing issues.” —Linus [05:30]
• OpenAI is pivoting toward productivity/B2B tools under the codename “Spud” with IPO as a potential goal.
• Discussion on the impossible business model for consumer AI video:
  “They had to pay for every single piece of content, no matter how good or how bad it was.” —Linus [12:04]
• Tangent: Linus confesses to using ad blockers for the first time due to unusable web experiences [07:01].

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2. GPU Market Update & Intel ARC Weekly Check-In [20:38–33:52]

• Intel ARC B580: No longer available at MSRP, but open-box deals exist.
• AMD GPU market share is minuscule (<1% for many mainstream cards), with Nvidia dominating prebuilds.
• Reflections on the rise of prebuilt culture and consumer attitudes: “A massive amount of people buy prebuilt, way more than I ever would have thought.” —Luke [23:40]
• Intel’s slow but steady push:
  “Everything Intel does that shows they’re still making GPUs is encouraging for me—we must not have a monopoly in this space.” —Linus [85:25]

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3. Wine 11 and the Linux Challenge [33:27–46:25]

• Wine 11 and Kernel Advances: Game-changing for Windows gaming on Linux, with big boosts for multi-threaded games (e.g., Dirt 3 up 8x FPS).
• Linux running increasingly smoothly; both hosts continue daily Linux use: “At this point I really, really don’t see myself going back to Windows on my laptop.” —Luke [37:35]
• Rant against Windows annoyances:
  “Do you want to open this webpage in Edge? There’s just… none of that stuff [on Linux].” —Luke [40:23]
• Linus demonstrates his growing annoyance with being forced to use Microsoft accounts for everything (e.g., SwiftKey migration) [41:10].

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4. Network News: Security Vulnerabilities & US Router Import Ban [51:54–61:04]

• Unifi Patch Alert:
  • Three significant vulnerabilities patched; users urgently need to update.
  • [51:49] Dan says: “I’m doing it right now.”
• FCC Bans Non-US Routers:
  • New rules ban sales/import of foreign-made consumer routers without explicit approval.
  • Most routers currently available are ‘grandfathered,’ but all new models require US manufacturing/onshoring plans [54:00].
• Lively debate on cost and impracticality: “You want some real expensive routers?” —Luke [55:13]
• Exploration of small-scale US/EU router makers and reflections on manufacturing challenges.

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5. Landmark Lawsuits: Meta & Google Held Liable for Social Media Addiction [69:31–84:43]

• Two major jury awards: $375M (Meta) and $3M (Meta/YouTube split) for addictive, child-harming design choices (infinite scroll, autoplay, notifications).
• Section 230 was bypassed by focusing on design, not content, setting huge precedent for pending cases.
• Quote:
  “Imagine someone saying, ‘Hey, your product damaged me.’ And you being like, ‘Yo, y’all are broken, cuz. Your family sucks, and you were bullied…’” —Linus [74:27]
• Over 3,000 similar lawsuits are expected; could fundamentally change the social media landscape.
• What’s next? The possible return to old-school, non-algorithmic social networks.

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6. Good News Bytes & Apple Business Launch

• Impending policy forcing Switch 2 to have removable batteries for EU compliance ([136:11])—hosts cheer for right-to-repair advances.
• Apple Business:
  • Consolidated management suite for organizations/education, offered free, seen as a “game changer.”
  • Big topic on how Apple dominates by cementing itself in education & corporate environments [95:07–99:54].
• Quick hits:
  • New magnetic cable organizers launched by LTT [16:58]
  • Steam Machine Verified program will require 1080p/30fps for new Valve hardware [162:53]
  • Samsung Galaxy phones now support Airdrop-style sharing with iPhones [150:41]
  • Motorola’s GrapheneOS partnership threatened by new state laws requiring age data collections (but GrapheneOS “will never comply”) [149:27–150:20]

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7. Community Q&A & “After Dark” [172:11–end]

• Personal Stories:
  • Linus shares parenting techniques for toddler meltdowns [199:11].
  • Favorite gifts from children and to parents—Luke’s Lord of the Rings family experience [181:19–183:49].
• Health & Diet:
  • Linus’s legendary Krispy Kreme donut binge (ate a dozen in under 24 hours) [187:57–189:10].
  • Surprising calorie math on donuts vs. fast food and McDonald’s.
• Technical Advice:
  • CPU upgrades and DDR4/DDR5 value, with reflections on AMD’s abandoned “upgrade path” for AM4 holders.
• Random Fun:
  • Playing Vibes Fish and Minesweeper live [162:14].
  • Tangents on bikes, hybrid motorcycles, and more.

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Memorable Quotes & Highlights

On Sora’s Business Model:

“They had to pay for every piece of content, no matter how good or bad… YouTube has a literal army of free labor.”
—Linus [12:04]

On Meta’s Courtroom Defense:

“Imagine going after someone that way… ‘Yo, y’all are broken, cuz. Your family sucks, and you were bullied…’”
—Linus [74:27]

On Linux Daily Drivers:

“At this point I really, really don’t see myself going back to Windows on my laptop.”
—Luke [37:35]

On Experimental Channel Moves:

“What do you think of the idea of simultaneously streaming on both platforms for a really long time, dropping bitrate each week?”
—Linus [117:53]

On Parenting & Meltdowns:

“If a meltdown gets the slice of cake, you will see that behavior over and over… If a meltdown gets you seated on a bench outside… you’re less likely to see it again.”
—Linus [199:25]

On Personal Weakness (Food):

“I don’t know how they make something that has so many calories taste so light. I ate eight that evening and four the next morning…”
—Linus [188:03]

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Notable Moments (with Time Stamps)

• Sora shutdown & costs: [05:30–12:04]
• Linus’ ad blocker confession: [07:01]
• Meta and Google court verdicts: [69:31–77:08]
• Wine 11, Linux vs Windows: [33:52–41:05]
• Floatplane WAN Show channel transition twist: [117:51]
• Playful product launches & marketing: [16:49–18:35]
• Parenting and kid meltdowns: [199:11]
• Krispy Kreme donut binge confession: [187:57]
• Mario Kart World drifting rant: [137:58–139:34]
• QLED lawsuit and TV cheating: [156:01–160:59]

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Tone & Style

Linus and Luke’s banter is equal parts witty, irreverent, and insightful, peppered with classic WAN Show tangents. They balance real technical analysis with industry skepticism, self-deprecation, hot takes, and community engagement. The episode keeps a celebratory “good news” energy while still digging deep into major industry transitions and controversies.

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Closing Reminders

• Good News Month starts April: All WAN Show episodes in April will be “good news only,” with a possible rare exception for critical stories.
• WAN Show moving to its own YouTube channel:
  • Transition begins April 3, 2026, with a fun campaign to nudge holdouts.
• Check early-access content and release announcements on Floatplane and LTT channels.

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For next episode: Subscribe to LMG Clips (soon “The WAN Show” channel) and check floatplane for early access videos and Q&A!

Transcript

[Linus Sebastian]

What's up everyone and welcome to the WAN show. Okay, seriously though, you need to calm down for a second because we have a huge show this week and you know how we've been talking about the idea of a good news WAN show?

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah.

[Linus Sebastian]

We're easing ourself into it.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Okay.

[Linus Sebastian]

April is gonna be good news WAN show month.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Okay.

[Linus Sebastian]

If it's not good news, it's not gonna be in the WAN show.

[Luke Lafreniere]

What if it's extremely important news?

[Linus Sebastian]

If it's extremely important news, we could maybe have a single carve out on techlinked. Single carve out. Or we could do an extremely important bad news WAN show. For the first WAN show in May.

[Luke Lafreniere]

We should bring back the like really, really dark scene for the single car vote. Bad news.

[Linus Sebastian]

We could do that.

[Dan]

We could do.

[Linus Sebastian]

Then people can easily skip it. It's gonna be a month of good news WAN show and we're gonna be starting with some pretty fre. Sora is dead. That's right. OpenAI just flippin flipped the switch. It's gone. We're gonna be talking about that. Also in some mixed news, Meta and Google were found liable in a landmark social media addiction trial. We'll get into in a little bit more depth later, but for starters, $3 million in damages to the plaintiff. And. And that may just be the tip of the iceberg. What else we got? Or the Zuckerberg. Oh, I wish I thought of that the first time.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Zuckerberg's tip. Anyways, Wine 11 is a game changer in potentially some actually really cool ways. And we have a double jeopardy here. Bigger battle Mage has has arrived. And Crimson Desert is apparently finally supporting Intel GPUs. No one knows why they didn't.

[Linus Sebastian]

But anyways, that was a really f ed up thing for you to say. What? Zuckerberg's tip? Why would I want to think about that? The show is brought to you today by Jawa Squarespace telescope. Hello. And ProtonMail, alongside our rap partner dbrand, our laptop partner Razer, and our chair partner, also Razer. Let's jump right into our headline topic today, which is Sora is dead. Long live spud. On Tuesday, OpenAI announced the demise of the video generation app and API that was front and center in a billion dollar licensing deal with Disney just a few months ago. Deal which is also coming to an end. According to The Hollywood Reporter, OpenAI is also scaling back some of ChatGPT's shopping features as they shift their focus to business and productivity tools, apparently codenamed Spud. As they continue down the path towards an initial public offering. It is not clear whether the core model will be folded into another model, preserved in some way or, or just outright discarded as they walk away from Sora video generation. Let's talk a little bit about to start the technical side of a video generation service and why that might not be economically viable, like ever.

[Luke Lafreniere]

It could be okay for sure.

[Linus Sebastian]

It could be. But yeah, two individual end users, I think that's going to be a tough sell.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I mean there's, there's been a theory craft that like, you know, fast forward, hopefully a lot of years and political campaigns could be custom tailored per person.

[Linus Sebastian]

Okay. But Again, that's a B2B use case. That's not a consumer use case because it's all about funding of it. Yeah. It's about who's paying for the token. Because at the end of the day, OpenAI has, has to figure out, and they really don't have a lot of time right now, what a business model for their product is going to look like.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Did individual users pay for tokens for on Sora? Is that how that worked?

[Linus Sebastian]

My understanding is I only used it

[Luke Lafreniere]

once for that video. Riley and I did.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah. My understanding is that you would, you would pay for tokens if you want to generate video on it.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah, that's a little weird. I. The thing that I suspect could eventually happen is, is if, like, if the platform is trying to generate videos that draw you in, um, like there's been some people raising alarm bells about how this could be a direction for YouTube. Where YouTube stops being. Well, maybe it starts embracing the name even more, you know, and it ends up being content that they're generating for you based on your viewing habits. And eventually there are, there are no really creators, it's just platforms making content for you as a user. I could see viability there, but yeah, I mean, I never really understood the business model of Sora making any sense and I don't think anyone else really did either. I don't know a single person who actually really used it beyond the first like few days.

[Linus Sebastian]

I mean, to me what it was was simply a marketing stunt. It was, it was a billboard. I mean, they clearly didn't do the groundwork ahead of time to deal with the licensing issues that they were obviously going to have with it. They kind of patched together that deal with Disney. I believe that wasn't the only deal they made. They also worked with some influencers to get promotion to use their likeness. So they generated a bunch of buzz that way. But I, I Heard. And I don't know. I don't know how true this is. How much was SORA costing per day? Let me see if I can find a credible number. But from my understanding, it was costing anywhere from hundreds of thousands of dollars to as much as millions of dollars per day.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Hold on a second day maybe.

[Linus Sebastian]

Where is this from? Yeah, I've. I've got this post on Reddit that has zero upvotes, so I think I'm going to just not quote anything from that.

[Luke Lafreniere]

That's what I was on as well,

[Linus Sebastian]

but CBC reports that an analyst. Okay, sure. Here we go. I will. Oh, my God.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Okay, where's the article? Oh, there it is.

[Linus Sebastian]

I'm gonna derail this a little bit. I'm gonna derail this a little bit. We're gonna come back to it for a second. Sorry, Noki, timestamp guy. You're just gonna have to kind of work with me here. I have a confession to make you.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Ad blocking.

[Linus Sebastian]

I installed Brave on my phone yesterday for the explicit purpose, for the express purpose of blocking an ad from a page. This is the first time, ladies and gentlemen, that outside of content.

[Luke Lafreniere]

We got them.

[Linus Sebastian]

I have engaged in web ad blocking.

[Luke Lafreniere]

How's the hat feel?

[Linus Sebastian]

I mean, hypocritical, right? Because that's the whole reason that we have the policies we have internally here. That's the whole reason that I don't use it, is because as someone whose business is supported by ads in a not insignificant way, it would have felt very hypocritical for me to block ads personally or for our business to block ads. However, I had, and I kid you not, I wouldn't say this if it wasn't true. I had no choice, Luke. I was forced to block ads.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Was it one of those links that effectively, if you click it, it just doesn't work unless you have an ad blocker.

[Linus Sebastian]

I'm gonna see if I can find the right link. Yeah, this is. This is the one. So I'm gonna open this link in Chrome here real quick and I'm gonna show you what I'm talking about. It's from. It's an article I was trying to read on Electrek. I don't know. I don't know how well you guys are gonna be able to see this here, but here's the article. Tesla is not, in fact, operating an autonomous vehicle service. And I wanted to read the comments on this. You know what a fan of comments I am. Yeah. Here it is. It's still. Oh, nope, nope. Okay, so it's Fixed now. But it's not fixed because they fixed it. It's fixed because the size of this banner ad is not as wide as the one that I had. So when I opened up this article yesterday, I was getting a banner that was so wide that it covered part of the first comment here. Okay. Just like this one, and extended all the way to cover the expand button. So I couldn't click tall. I couldn't. Yeah, it was taller. So I couldn't click expand to see the comment section. I literally could not interact with the website in order to use it. That's pretty sick without engaging an ad blocker. Freaking irritating. Anyway, on that note, okay, back to this CBC article. One moment, please. Let me just. Oh, okay. Oh, wow. One of them disappeared. Generated by. Right, right, right, right, right. So, yeah, cbc. Hold on. Dollar sign. Here we go. Where we at. The platform was also by some accounts an expensive flop in November. One analysts suggested it cost OpenAI about $1.30 US to generate a 10 second video. That actually doesn't sound that crazy. Based on the 11.3 million daily videos, he estimated this would cost the company about $15 million a day. And that's a number that's kind of hard to pin down because how much of your video generation cost is your fixed cost and how much of it is your variable cost?

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah, yeah.

[Linus Sebastian]

How much of it is the infrastructure that you had to build, GPUs that

[Luke Lafreniere]

are already sitting there in order to

[Linus Sebastian]

accommodate the volume of, of of tokens, of the volume of requests you're getting? And then how much of it is the actual energy of that actual video generation task that you did? And it's hard to decide how much of that fixed cost you amortize across how many of your, you know, your variable cost, individual engagements. Right. So it's going to be hard for us to say for sure, but what I think we can say with certainty is, is that it was flipping expensive to run with, as far as I can tell, no model to profitability. Because like, you've talked extensively in the past about how expensive it is to run a video hosting platform. Yeah, right. And you know what's funny is, and this is going to kind of, this kind of turns the whole idea of AI being an efficiency booster and a cost saver, so sort of on its head. But let me kind of, let me kind of present it this way. YouTube has all of the challenges of hosting a video platform. Right. Whether we're talking VOD or short form or live streaming, you've got to deal with all the encoding, you've got to deal with all the storage, you've got to deal with all the bandwidth. But YouTube has an army, a literal army of free labor.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah.

[Linus Sebastian]

Or at least not free commission labor.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah, like skit, like skimmed. So they will be making money the more of them there are. Labor. Yeah.

[Linus Sebastian]

But the humans who are uploading content to the YouTube platform that nobody watches, well, hey, the bandwidth cost is nothing. They do have to store it. That kind of blows.

[Luke Lafreniere]

And storage isn't getting like cheaper in the marching way that it used to.

[Linus Sebastian]

No. So, so there's, you know, there are still things that kind of blow about that. But hey, they didn't pay anybody to make the content, so they, all they have to do is apply their, you know, quality filter and algorithm and there, there's a path to a profitable platform there. Whereas on Sora every, they had to pay for every single piece of content no matter how good or how bad it was. On top of any encoding and bandwidth and storage. I mean, YouTube is already unassailable without them having to pay. Whether it's a buck 30 or whether it's 13 cents, whatever it is, per generated video on the platform. They ain't paying for it unless it makes money, unless it generates revenue. So yeah, it's pretty clear that it was, it was a showcase for their latest video generation model. And what they're going to do with that, I don't know because they, yeah, like just going straight pay to play straight B2B is obviously something that they could do. But to your point, you know, how big is the market going to be for that? And something we haven't even talked about yet is how much competition is there going to be there? Because it's not like OpenAI is the only one doing video generation right now.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah, not even like right at that time. Like at that time, like, oh, AI social media platforms thing, those were, those were, those were a big deal. Right. Okay. I'm trying to, I'm trying to figure out how much it would cost

[Linus Sebastian]

for

[Luke Lafreniere]

the YouTube and Twitch live viewership of this show right now. Oh, is that we're still, we're still kind of building up, but there's like 5200 on YouTube.

[Linus Sebastian]

Right.

[Luke Lafreniere]

And about 1800 ish on Twitch. So let's say that's 7000.

[Linus Sebastian]

Sure. Let's say that our.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Streamed. We've been doing like four, I think

[Linus Sebastian]

we did over four hours last week. I totally didn't realize what was going on until the show was over. I looked at I'm like, oh, my gosh. It's crazy.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I don't know if we're advanced to HD or just standard. I'm not sure.

[Linus Sebastian]

Do you want me to do something while you're doing that? Do you have a bit of time?

[Luke Lafreniere]

I can show it.

[Linus Sebastian]

Oh, you're ready. Yeah. Let's see.

[Luke Lafreniere]

We're doing low latency, which I believe it is on YouTube and Twitch right now. We're not even looking at chat, but we're doing one channel. Channel type. I'm just doing standard. I'm not actually 100% sure what the differences between these are. So full HD 1080p because I think. I'm pretty sure we are streaming in that.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yep.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Four hours streamed, 7,000 viewers. This tends to go up over the course of the show, but let's just keep it where it is for now. And the cheapest area for viewership generally of North America and it's still 2000 USD.

[Linus Sebastian]

That's wild. Wait, that's live streaming.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Live streaming is expensive.

[Linus Sebastian]

We don't pay that much for every floatplane WAN show stream, do we?

[Luke Lafreniere]

Well, there's not that many viewers on floatplane.

[Linus Sebastian]

Right, Right. Oh, God.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah, There is a decent amount of viewers on flow plane, but that's the IVS calculator. So like. And obviously you're gonna. You're gonna start getting like volume discounts and stuff. But as far as my understanding goes, like, Kik is running through ivs.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Which has always been a really interesting part of that whole.

[Linus Sebastian]

Because IVS, you know, parent company of

[Luke Lafreniere]

Twitch, you know, 730 chatters on floatplane. But the Chatters menu also doesn't count perfectly because there's different forms of ad blocking that can block that. And we've never bothered to, like, do the work to make sure that that's 100% accurate.

[Linus Sebastian]

Right.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Because it doesn't matter that. What's the value in that? Yeah, it's just like, not. There are so many. You guys let us know for sure every single week. There are like, so many things that we could be working on that are probably more valuable than that. We are trying to get things like TV app and other things out. It's taking time, but they're coming.

[Linus Sebastian]

All right, let's just highlight as we move out of the SORA discussion, the time that Luke and Riley tried SORA and played around with it last October. That is over at LMG GG Floatplane. That's a pretty fun little exclusive over there. All right, Dan, the paper says headline topic, but we're done that. I don't know what to do. You know what?

[Luke Lafreniere]

Actually, I'm lost and confused.

[Linus Sebastian]

I think I do know what we're doing.

[Dan]

More topics?

[Linus Sebastian]

No.

[Dan]

Okay, I'll take the paper down.

[Linus Sebastian]

There's gonna be. There's gonna be.

[Dan]

Why do I bother?

[Linus Sebastian]

There's gonna be so many topics today, Dan. But first I need to.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Where are we doing more.

[Linus Sebastian]

Where is it?

[Luke Lafreniere]

What are you doing?

[Linus Sebastian]

I need to do the CW announcements today.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Oh, it's like right at the top.

[Linus Sebastian]

I know. I could find it all. Listen, can you bring up a new product?

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Linus Sebastian]

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[Luke Lafreniere]

Hey, look, it looks like a worm.

[Linus Sebastian]

Way more easily. We used over molding to keep the magnets in a rigid core while the arch itself can bend. So you still get that strong magnetic hold without compromise. And the flexibility opens up a ton. More options like tighter runs going around edges and even mixing these with our regular arches to build your setup exactly the way you want. You can get yours today at LMG GG Flexible arches. Also, if you're curious about our design process for these, we broke the whole thing down in our newsletter. So you can check that out. And if you haven't already, you can sign up for more behind the scenes on how we build things.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Is this. Hold on. Is it. Are you buying three?

[Linus Sebastian]

Yes, I believe so.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I don't know if that's super clear.

[Linus Sebastian]

Scroll down, scroll down.

[Luke Lafreniere]

So very long description.

[Linus Sebastian]

My eyes are going kind of blurry. Product information. There you go. Maybe product information should be above the other one.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Maybe. Or it should be like in the title or something.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. We could probably do that.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I was not the only one that questioned that.

[Dan]

Yeah, okay.

[Linus Sebastian]

Good to know. Good to know. Nice.

[Luke Lafreniere]

But yeah, you're getting three. You're not getting one.

[Linus Sebastian]

Solid. Here's the. Here's the newsletter. You guys should definitely sign up for the newsletter. It's pretty cool. We're going to be working on doing a lot more of this kind of stuff, putting in some more technical deep dives of how we're creating these things. So getting into things like injection molding, tooling, dyes, color, all that kind of geeky stuff that you might not care about, but if you do care about, it's actually really cool. I've learned so much just working with the creator, House creator, house creator, creator, warehouse team over the years. Also on the store. Do we still have the. Do we still have the tax write off sale running? Yes. It is the final day of the tax write off sale, March 20th to 27th. So if you guys are wanting to pick up a mystery screwdriver for $50 CAD, that's on the global store. Mystery hoodies for $30 Canadian. We have mystery T shirts for $15. Tall shirts, $15. We have open box commuter backpacks. But they're. They're like new. They are in like new condition. And you can get these for just 130 Canadian dollars. There's a bunch of really good stuff in this sale, so make sure that you check it out now because that's a perfect way to send a checkout message. Is picking up something either the flexible magnetic cable arches or something from the tax write off sale all you have to do. Oh, shoot. The mystery screwdrivers are apparently sold out. Well, anyway, going to the hoodie, we apparently have smalls in stock still. All you have to do is add something to your cart. Say, I would like my purchase to appear as a checkout message. It will show your first and last name. Or it can be anonymous if you prefer. You type up something and you click bidi boppity check out. Your order will go to. Or your message will go to producer Dan, who will reply to it or just pop it up down there. Or who will curate it for us to do a checkout message response. Dan, do you have any. Should we just do them now? Let's do them now. Let's do one now.

[Dan]

Sure. That's all I got.

[Linus Sebastian]

Hi.

[Dan]

Specifically Luke. It's an interesting name for Luke. Anyway.

[Linus Sebastian]

I like it specifically Luke.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah.

[Linus Sebastian]

Not Lucas. Not Luke Haniel, Not Luke Isiah.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Maybe that one.

[Linus Sebastian]

Just Luke.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Luke is.

[Linus Sebastian]

I like just Luke too.

[Dan]

Specifically Luke is a good nickname.

[Linus Sebastian]

Just Luke. It.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Dear God. Okay, sorry.

[Dan]

I'm gonna call you that from now on. Anyway, what happened to the hype around the 9070 XT? I love mine, but everyone kind of makes me wish I got a 5070 ti. Also, I will pay hundreds for a black shaft screwdriver.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I mean, I think it's just like classic Nvidia bias where just like. I mean, having. What is it, 95% market share is gonna make people. Yeah, Yeah. I don't think it's necessarily that you like, made a bad choice or anything like that. It's just. Look at that. Look. Look at. Look at that. Wow. So if people are gonna talk about cards, it's probably gonna be the cards that they have. And if 95% of people have that card, it doesn't even specify the card. It just says, wow, there's AMD Radeon TM graphics and there's also AMD Radeon graphics things.

[Linus Sebastian]

I think these are onboard.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah, yeah.

[Linus Sebastian]

I think these are both like one of them's not trademark onboard ones. So you have to go all the way down to bazillionth place to find a single AMD discrete gpu. It's a generation old and they're, they're looking at less than 1% of the market.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah.

[Linus Sebastian]

Of Steam gamers. Then you got to go a generation older and more mainstream. Newer, mainstream. How far do we have to go to find a 90 something XT last gen flagship at 0.5%. Oh. Fallen to 0.27% of gamers. Whoopsie doodles.

[Luke Lafreniere]

And like it's actually very surprising.

[Linus Sebastian]

They get eight. It's above the 90. Did I miss it?

[Luke Lafreniere]

I don't think so. I didn't see it. You might have, but I didn't see it. Yeah. So like I, I. And it's like just like a lot of things, it's kind of a chicken and egg problem to a certain degree where a lot of people are just buying Nvidia and that kind of informs the pre build market. A lot of the pre build market is only really serving Nvidia GPUs because of that. But then a very surprising for me and likely for you because you seem to be in the community of people that's building their own computers. A massive amount of people buy pre built, like way more than I ever would have thought. It's, it's a huge market actually, even

[Linus Sebastian]

from brands that you might traditionally think of as diy. Like hardcore, like MSI apparently is like. I don't know if this is on the record or not. Well, whatever, I'm going with it. What's Cliff gonna do? Yell at me? MSI is apparently just like slaying it as a system integrator.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah.

[Linus Sebastian]

And like, I mean, yeah, it makes sense. Right. It's not like they don't have motherboards and GPUs. So like what, they could sell you a motherboard and a GPU or. Hear me out. Here you go. It's just, it's just obvious. It just works.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Right. Kind of funny that the hard part is RAM now, but normies are scared of building their computers. I think that's part of it. I think an actually really surprising amount of it is people Just don't want to bother. Like I experienced this for the first time kind of as I was ending my, my time working at like Best Buy and stuff like that, where there was a buddy of mine who was one of my supervisors at Best Buy who had moved on and was doing a more advanced job now. And we were chatting and he was talking about how he was going to, he was going to get a computer built by ncx. NCX had a cool service where it wasn't, it was pre built, but you could configure it yourself. And then they build it for like 50 bucks or something.

[Linus Sebastian]

It was 50 bucks for a long time. In fact, I think you could get it as cheap as 25 if you used the old classic PC builder interface where we didn't even bother putting together like recommended configs for you.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Okay, like 25 bucks for someone to build a computer. And they did a pretty good job

[Linus Sebastian]

and they tested it.

[Luke Lafreniere]

It was warrantied if I remember correctly.

[Linus Sebastian]

They made sure everything worked and they gave you a one year warranty on the system as a whole.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah.

[Linus Sebastian]

And they treated the sale like a parts sale. So a lot of hardware manufacturers will actually give you a different warranty for your parts if it was through a system integrator. So NCIX would give you an invoice for, for all your individual parts and all the boxes and packaging and accessories.

[Luke Lafreniere]

And then there would be another line

[Linus Sebastian]

item for the build that just says PC build service or something like that. So what that means is two and a half years down the line when your NCIX PC warranty is up, you can contact ASUS and get a new motherboard if you are so inclined.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah, so like I actually knew quite a few people who ended up just going that route. I even knew people that like had gotten computers built by me. And then we're like, well like you're busy, I didn't want to bother you. And it was like 50 bucks. So I just did that and it was like, okay. So like I ended up knowing a lot of people who were technical and would have been very comfortable building their own computer, but just kind of had a lot of other stuff going on and they needed a new computer. It's 50 bucks.

[Linus Sebastian]

And there's so many things like that. I think it's easy for us to be in our bubble where we go, I'm so passionate about this thing and I legitimately enjoy it. Why would anybody pay someone else to do it for them? And we forget about all the other things in our lives that we're just not that passionate about and we just don't feel like dealing with like it took me, this is an embarrassing amount of time, but I had a leak in the differentials and a leak in the shocks and I broke the skid plate on this RC car nine years ago and just, just didn't get around to fixing it because I bought it as a kit from Arma and so I didn't piece it together. I didn't know exactly, you know, what the standard of the particular brushed motor is. And I'd never actually installed the differential in the first place. So I didn't even know how to like get at it and open it. And I didn't even know exactly where all the ceiling O rings were in the shocks. Like, I didn't, I just, I didn't, I'd never put it together so I didn't understand how it went together. And that barrier of not knowing exactly what to Google in order to find the answer that you need was high enough that I just, it just sat in my garage for years and years and years. Avon Fox says, never put your toys away broken. Use this mantra for everything. This may surprise you, but the last nine years have been pretty busy for me.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah, sometimes you don't really have that, that luxury Peter pointed out, like taxes. I actually think that's a really good but, you know, a little bit more dramatic comparison of like I could do my taxes. I get my taxes done by an accountant these days just because I don't want to worry about it.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah.

[Luke Lafreniere]

What if I do something wrong? Yeah, I kind of really rather it just didn't go wrong.

[Linus Sebastian]

Sometimes the stakes are so much higher than the cost. It's the risk reward calculation. Right.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Cheaper not to pay them.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Speaking of not paying, someone else said it's $50 plus $100 for windows. I'm pretty sure NCX would let you build a computer on the computer configurator without Windows.

[Linus Sebastian]

They did.

[Luke Lafreniere]

And then they would just have a drive with Windows to test with and they would just take it out and

[Linus Sebastian]

then they'd nuke the Windows install before they sent you.

[Luke Lafreniere]

So like you didn't have to do that.

[Linus Sebastian]

NCIX was kind of based in some ways. Yeah, there were some ways that, you know what, I, I look, I, I've made it very clear I didn't agree with some of the direction they were going for the business. I've also made it very clear that just because they listened to me would not have necessarily meant success. They were headed into a very challenging Landscape with Amazon coming hard at Canada and Newegg doing the same. But there were some things about NCIX that were pretty cool. No other computer shop that I can imagine would have let me come in on a weekend, borrow their known good working hardware to troubleshoot my computer so that I could buy whatever replacement part I needed. Like, that was crazy. And they were just. They had a pretty, yeah, let's make it work kind of culture within the rigid confines of their policies. Sure.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah.

[Linus Sebastian]

I think the best way that I could probably put it.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah. So it's. I don't know. I. I understand it is frustrating. I do think this is a big part of the reason why we have 95% market share on Nvidia and like, I'm pretty sure, zero for intel, which is why we keep talking about the graphics cards. Because we're trying to help them.

[Linus Sebastian]

Hey, ding ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Topic.

[Linus Sebastian]

Is it time we just crack a topic? Our weekly Intel ARC B5.80 MSRP chat.

[Luke Lafreniere]

We haven't done this in a long time. Well, listen, it's not really weekly.

[Dan]

Bi weekly.

[Linus Sebastian]

Thank you for that, Dan. I gotta call back in. All right, what do we got here? An Asrock Challenger for 300. Steel Legend 309. Okay, we've got an Onyx Lumi Arc for 289. Do we get any bonuses with it? Do we get any games or anything like that? We don't. We don't. 40 bucks over MSRP. Okay. All right. Well, in the midst of the rampocalypse, we can no longer get an ARC B580 for MSRP. But there is a silver lining. There's an open box as rock challenger final sale non refundable. That's for 259. So it's there. Open box product disclaimer. How scary is this thing? Oh my God. Why wouldn't you just link me to it in the first place? Why you make me click two things previously open and unused usually do not come with a warranty. However, warranty may be available if it was never registered by the previous owner.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Ooh, that's accessories may or may not be included. Can be pretty sketch for certain products. Like if it didn't come with the IO shield for a motherboard, I'd be pretty cheesed.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah, I'd be pretty irritated by that too. With a gpu, I'd say there's not too many accessories I really need.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Oh yeah, that's fair.

[Linus Sebastian]

289. That's a. That's a downer. But I also can't go too hard at Onyx or at intel, given the current state of things and the fact that that is a 12 gig GPU for 289 and you sure as heck are not getting anything with 12 gigs for that from anyone else.

[Luke Lafreniere]

If intel is listening, if you guys could somehow flip the script. There's going to be a topic in here about how Crimson Desert didn't support intel cards. We'll talk about that more in the future and how it does now. But if you want to flip the script on that, it could be really interesting considering it does now. Get it optimized a little bit.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah.

[Luke Lafreniere]

And then bundle it.

[Linus Sebastian]

That'd be crazy.

[Luke Lafreniere]

To take it from like it didn't work at all to it's now bundled with the card. I think would be really cool.

[Linus Sebastian]

That'd be crazy. I'd love that.

[Luke Lafreniere]

And I think. I think Crimson Desert Steam available now. Yes. I was totally born in 1983 on January 1st. Yeah, it's very positive. People seem to like it. I haven't played it, but 83% positive.

[Linus Sebastian]

Wow. Yeah. Yeah. That's impressive.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah.

[Linus Sebastian]

All right, cool. Meanwhile, a 5060 with only 8 gigs of vram is 370 bucks. So arc B580 is still looking like a pretty specific spectacular value. Yeah, if you buy one. I think we have an affiliate code. I always forget, was it what it is? Is it just lmg, gg, Newegg, Floatplane Chats. Got me, thanks. Floatplane Chat. What did they say though? I didn't see it. Yeah, lmg, gg, slash, Newegg. Nice. All right, should we jump right into new topic?

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah, Routers.

[Linus Sebastian]

Actually, I want to go with some good news. Can we do some good news?

[Luke Lafreniere]

We can do some good news. Do you want to do some medium news?

[Linus Sebastian]

No, I want to do good news. Wine 11 looks like an absolute flipping game changer. And the timing of this right in the midst of Linux challenge. While we're talking about. Did you see that Reddit thread on the LTT subreddit this week? Someone's like, I decided to do the Linux Challenge alongside Linus, Elijah and Elijah.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah, I saw that too.

[Linus Sebastian]

Not going back.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Really Cool.

[Linus Sebastian]

All right, for the first time, wine 11. So wine is short for. Wine is not an emulator. It's the foundation of Proton and running x86 games on Linux. Anywho, Wine 11 years is NTSync, a Wine specific implementation of the NT synchronization primitives, mutexes, semaphores, events, etc. That are baked deep into the Windows kernel that are relied upon to keep the various threads of modern multi threaded applications, particularly games, coordinated. Up until now, Wine and by extension Proton, have utilized ESync and Fsync, which were clever workarounds that were developed by Elizabeth Figuera at Codeweavers, which had some issues and it's like not her fault but were a massive jump, but they had some challenges because they just weren't deep enough with NT Sync. Figuera abends the approach of trying to replicate Windows behavior with existing Linux primitives and instead introduces a new kernel driver. Now we're going kernel baby. That directly models the NT synchronization API and exposes a Dev NTsync device for wine to talk to. These new features have already been in use in some distros, including Bazzite, but beginning with kernel 6, the changes have been merged into the mainline Linux kernel, meaning that users of more mainstream distributions won't have to go out of their way to benefit from the new code.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Awesome.

[Linus Sebastian]

Now for many changes, not for many changes. For many games this is going to be a small or even completely insignificant change. But for some games, particularly heavily multi threaded games, the impact is pretty impressive. Dirt 3 is is highlighted here.

[Luke Lafreniere]

That's ridiculous.

[Linus Sebastian]

Went from 110.6 to 860.7 frames per second. Wow. Tiny Tina's Wonderlands jumped from 130 to 360 and some previously unplayable games outright, like COD Black Ops 1 are now playable. In other Wine news, Wine 11 now has its own complete implementation of Wow 64. So that's Windows 32 bit on Windows 64 bit, the subsystem that allows 32 bit and even 16 bit Windows applications to run on 64 bit systems without needing multi lib packages. That is so cool. There's a bunch of other smaller updates and tweaks that all come together to make the experience of Windows gaming on Linux the best it's ever been. And you can check out Dan, do you want to throw the link to the XDA developer's article that that brought this to our attention in the various chats?

[Luke Lafreniere]

Another thing that feels fantastic. Wow. Voice crack. That feels fantastic about this.

[Linus Sebastian]

I'm really excited about wine 11.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Another thing that's really exciting about this is you seem to be cursed in regards to timing. Right There was the weird Steam bug the first time and then there was the like whatever. I don't know. I don't follow popos, but that thing with the desktop environment. Yeah, the cosmic thing.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yep.

[Luke Lafreniere]

This is the first time. I think that the timing has actually been really good.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Because this is happening how. Okay, we're saying we're in like the middle of the Linux challenge.

[Linus Sebastian]

I think we're over 30 days.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Okay.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah. But like I'm.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I noticed you were still running it on your laptop. I saw that when we,

[Linus Sebastian]

I mean I.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Setting up for the show.

[Linus Sebastian]

I'm clearly, clearly still Linux pilled.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah.

[Linus Sebastian]

Right now.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah, I know. At this point I, I really, really don't see myself going back to Windows on my laptop. I had to use Windows, had to use Windows on someone else's system recently and it was very icky.

[Linus Sebastian]

You rage out about it like just about every week before we start the show on this machine. Yeah, yeah, because like something will happen, like some AI thing will reinstall itself

[Luke Lafreniere]

or recall is like back on here after Dan scrubbed recall off the system. It's like right now it's, it's running okay. I don't know how. It's using 50% of its RAM. That's insane. But it's not like going crazy with the fans like it was previously because of failing to install Windows updates. But like the, it's just kind of, there's ads, there's little pop ups all over the place. It's just kind of annoying. So at this point I'm not having any problems with my laptop and it's actually been more productive to have Linux installed. Like I've spent less time fiddling with my operating system with Linux installed than with Windows. So there's like no way I'm going back on my laptop.

[Linus Sebastian]

I still have issues. The teams for Linux, like that web app thing mostly works really great. My webcam is still not working, but that's, that's a separate issue.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Is that, is it working in other applications?

[Linus Sebastian]

No, but teams for Linux is just like, it doesn't allow me to click a link and then just open in my browser. Like if I click, if I click a link in here, it just, just doesn't do anything.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Oh, that's strange. I have not.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah, so there's like, there's definitely. But I mean realistically, is it that much work to right click copy link and then, and then I can paste and go.

[Luke Lafreniere]

It is an extra step though.

[Linus Sebastian]

It was a few extra steps.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah.

[Linus Sebastian]

But, but you know what I didn't have to do is reaffirm for the umpteen billionth time.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I don't want this to open an edge.

[Linus Sebastian]

No, I do not in fact want this to open an edge.

[Luke Lafreniere]

So it's like not even necessarily that much less clicking.

[Linus Sebastian]

You're damned if you do, you're damned if you don't. Right. So I might as well be damned in my own way. Yeah.

[Luke Lafreniere]

You know, Peter has a take here. Peter from Floatplane says, my personal take is personalization is a red herring. A proper Linux system just works and there's no need to tinker. That's a big part of what I'm talking about when it comes to my laptop. I have Linux Mint running on my laptop and I've had to do nothing. Everything has just worked. It gets out of my way. The updates are really easy, easy to deal with. Unproblematic. There's no, like, are you sure you want to not save this to OneDrive? Are you sure? Do you want me to recall that for you?

[Linus Sebastian]

Yes, I'm sure.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Do you want to open this webpage and Edge? There's just like none of that stuff.

[Linus Sebastian]

Would you like me to stay? Would you like to stay signed in?

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yes. For the 40 trillionth time, yes, I would. Yeah. So there's none of that.

[Linus Sebastian]

I click the button, don't ask me again. Every time.

[Luke Lafreniere]

And like, I haven't even changed my background on my laptop, let alone like anything else. Like, I've done, I've done nothing. My desktop I've done more tinkering with. But yeah, my laptop, I've done nothing. I'm very happy with it.

[Linus Sebastian]

Would you like to sign into just this application or system wide? Just this application. How many times do I have to tell you?

[Luke Lafreniere]

Every time. Because they want it to be system wide.

[Linus Sebastian]

Would you like to sign into Ms. Paint?

[Luke Lafreniere]

No. Ever? Not ever. Dude.

[Linus Sebastian]

Oh, man. Sorry. I'm going off. I'm going off now because slightest is turn on. I got an email. I got an email earlier this week from SwiftKey. Okay. From SwiftKey. And I'm going to show this to you because this. This burnt. This killed my brain. Okay, so first of all, first of all, I'm mad because they are. They're cramming onedrive so far down my throat that it's going to come out my butt. Okay. From Microsoft, we're writing to let you know that SwiftKey accounts will be retired as of 31 May 2026. To ensure a smoother, more secure experience, we'll be transitioning to standard Microsoft account sign in for all users. Why this change? Well, it's part of our effort to make SwiftKey better. Sure.

[Luke Lafreniere]

No, it isn't.

[Linus Sebastian]

Blah, blah, blah. Your typing data will be more securely stored in you guessed it, OneDrive. Okay. You'll benefit from enhanced privacy, blah, blah. You get 1,000 Microsoft reward points. Whatever those are, it simplifies your experience by using the same credentials you already use for other Microsoft apps and services. Fair enough. I have a Microsoft account, so sure, fundamentally this doesn't make a difference to me. If it worked, what does this mean for you? If you already use Microsoft to sign into SwiftKey, your data will be backed up to OneDrive as soon as it's ready. No further action is needed. Okay, first of all, Microsoft, I mean, you have my account, you emailed me, so you clearly know how I sign in. Do I use a Microsoft account? I don't know. You tell me.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I probably haven't signed into SwiftKey in like a year.

[Linus Sebastian]

That's just for starters. Hold on. If you signed in with a different account, eg, Google or Apple, you'll need to connect a Microsoft account to continue backing up your data. If you don't have an existing Microsoft account, you can easily create one with the same link below. Okay, fair enough. Connect your Microsoft account now. Oh my God. This works on mobile. That is hilarious. Okay, well, I went on a whole rant because I did it on desktop. Here, I'm going to show. I have. Okay, now I have to show you this to show I'm not crazy.

[Dan]

It.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah, I mean, it does. It is a mobile application, but it's an email. So like.

[Linus Sebastian]

So I opened it on my laptop. Yeah, one second. Key. Okay, this is. This is crazy. Okay, I'm going to. I'm going to click it on here. Connect your Microsoft account now. And it literally just dumps. It just dumps me on the SwiftKey homepage. Yeah, it doesn't take me to the account. Hold on, hold on. I'm just gonna. I'm gonna use my Linux Superpower super granular screen brightness here. Okay, it just dumped me on the SwiftKey homepage. There is nothing on here about anything to do with account migration. Nothing. There's a link to the Google Play store view supported languages. Luke, back me up on this.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Oh, yeah, for sure.

[Linus Sebastian]

Back me up on this. Okay, here's my. You're gonna. Just, Just so I can prove. No tomfoolery. Here's the same email. I'm clicking the same link. You watched me do it.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I think I watched it the first time.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah, yeah, here's the page.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah.

[Linus Sebastian]

Okay.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah, yeah.

[Linus Sebastian]

So. Okay, I. Okay, so because I use Google to sign in and so I, I went and I signed into my SwiftKey account also on My laptop. Because I happened to be on my laptop when I got the email. There was nothing in there about where the data was stored because I was pretty sure I use a Google account and there was just nothing in there.

[Luke Lafreniere]

He probably would have.

[Linus Sebastian]

So the only way to access this flow is to happen to open it on mobile. That's crazy. MRO Mutt says, thanks for making me feel normal about this whole SwiftKey thing. I went through the exact same thing. That's crazy. Why would you, why would you send me to the, why would you send me to just your homepage if I open it on desktop or a laptop? You're Microsoft, you know about laptops. All right. Okay, I'm marking, I'm marking that on red now so that I can deal with this later because I actually would strongly prefer not to lose my, my dictionary. Swift key is a significant part of my stickiness on Android.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah.

[Linus Sebastian]

Because on iOS it sucks. And I've never actually verified this, but I assume it's due to Apple's better privacy, probably around third party apps and being able to monitor what you type. Right. But for better or for worse, I've used SwiftKey for like 10 years now and it has an extensive dictionary of everything that I need to talk about, which includes a lot of tech terms. And I care about not having to correct, you know, the same ducking. Sorry, I said ducking so I didn't have to bleep it, you know, the same ducking thing a million times. And so having a dictionary that really works is, is really important to me. It makes me more productive. Yeah. So I would, I would really like to keep my SwiftKey library. So. Yeah, I'm gonna, I'm gonna fix that now. Sorry, what were we talking about? I don't remember.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Just Linux stuff in general. I, I, yeah, I think we're just talking about how the Linux challenge is going. I, I realized, I think it was yesterday.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yes.

[Luke Lafreniere]

That I should ask, like, oh, when is the Linux challenge over? When last time I'm pretty sure we were getting like weekly updates and all talking together about like when we were allowed to go back. And I thought it was interesting that there hasn't really been a lot of chatter and with how it's been being filmed, I feel like it's going to be going on for like a while longer.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah.

[Luke Lafreniere]

And I'm totally fine with that. I think the only thing drawing me back right now is there like an

[Linus Sebastian]

impending game launch or something. Yeah. Yeah.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I really liked Forza Horizon 5. I didn't play Any of the previous ones. But I had honestly a lot of fun with Forza Horizon 5. It's a great game and Forza Horizon 6 is coming on May 19th. But I genuinely with. With the experience that I had very recently of using someone else's Windows machine, I genuinely think I might dual boot and just treat it like turning on a console.

[Linus Sebastian]

Right.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I'll dual boot, play Horizon when I'm done. Just boot back into Linux.

[Dan]

Do you think it'll work on wine 11?

[Linus Sebastian]

No, I'm pretty anti dual boot. I don't. I don't know if I can explain why I don't like it either. It's like it feels like Horizon is supported on Linux.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Really?

[Linus Sebastian]

Horizon 5 is gold, apparently. I just looked it up on Protondb while you were talking about it.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Wow. Yeah, I didn't expect that. I mean, I didn't expect that because of the multiplayer. That was my guess.

[Linus Sebastian]

Is cheating a major issue in Forza Horizon?

[Luke Lafreniere]

I don't think I ever played online. I don't care at all. It was the single player game that I wanted to play. So like, even if you just like can't play multiplayer or whatever, that is completely fine for me. I do not care.

[Linus Sebastian]

Okay. Chat says it has a stupid amount of cheating. Okay.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah. I mean, I'm not too surprised.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah. Didn't.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Didn't Valve just ban a million accounts? Is that. I didn't see that in the doc.

[Linus Sebastian]

I didn't see that this week.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Banned. Yeah.

[Linus Sebastian]

That's wild.

[Luke Lafreniere]

They're all playing CS. Yeah. Nearly a million cheaters banned in Counter Strike 2. 960,000 accounts. Like cheaters are just in everything now.

[Linus Sebastian]

What's so funny? It's crazy is the first thing I was about to say when I. When I read out that chat that, yeah, cheating's everywhere in Forza Horizon 5 was like, who would want to cheat in a racing game? And then I was like, okay, right. But like I could apply that exact same logic. Who would want to cheat in a shooting game? Who would want to cheat in a strategy game? You know, wouldn't that just defeat the entire purpose of playing the game and determining who's better at the game? Right, yeah. Same logic applies across the board, I suppose.

[Luke Lafreniere]

It's not just okay, so someone pointed out those accounts would AFK CS games to get weekly case drops. Yeah, I heard that was a thing. There's a video I saw where somebody joined a public match as a spectator.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah.

[Luke Lafreniere]

And all the bots detected that someone was a spectator, meaning they could see their gameplay and they just all disconnected at the same time. And it was like a massive percentage of the lobby, just all auto disconnected. But I've also heard that like people in ranked games will just like openly on the mic, ask each other if they're like cheating and if, if like 4 out of 5 of the players are cheating, they'll just vote. Kick the fifth one. I don't know if it's like real.

[Linus Sebastian]

Huh.

[Luke Lafreniere]

It could have been staged and acted out. But yeah, it's like way too much. Um, but yeah, yeah. The Forza Horizon 5, the single player campaign was amazing. All the additional add ons were really cool. They collaborated with Donut and there's like a Donut media little like mini challenge thing in it which was like pretty sweet where you had to like build up a car and blah blah, blah, blah blah. It was awesome. So I'm looking forward to six. But I mean if, if it has a gold rating, maybe I'll just wait and then play it on Linux anyways. I don't need to play on release day.

[Linus Sebastian]

I don't care about that ball. Red says real racers in real race cars are cheating too. You know Mercedes this year and their F1 engine is probably legal. Okay. That one, I understand that. Just like there's big money involved.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah. And that's like as far as my understanding goes. It's part of the fun of F1 is watching the different teams and how they work around the rules and then adapting year to year. That's like a bunch of people that I know that watch, watch it because they find the technological engineering side of it to be more interesting than anything else. So I don't know.

[Linus Sebastian]

All right, why don't we jump into another topic here? Maybe we should do a short one here.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Sure.

[Linus Sebastian]

This is just more of an FYI than anything else. Ubiquiti has patched three significant flaws in their software and firmware, including a path traversal vulnerability found in version 10.1.1 and earlier of the UniFi Network application, aka UniFi Controller and UniFi Express version 9.0.114 and earlier. See the security advisory for details and patch as soon as possible. Very, very important because that's really bad. It can allow account takeover. So patch all your Unifi stuff. Please, please, please, please, please, please. And the source here is Ubiquity. Here's the advisory bulletin. You're going to want to let more people than this need to see it and make sure that they act on this. This is very, very important network infrastructure. Not to be taken lightly as far as security goes.

[Dan]

I'm doing it right now.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Go for your like home stuff.

[Linus Sebastian]

Okay, good.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I was like, this is.

[Linus Sebastian]

No, no, no, no. I don't do that anymore.

[Dan]

No.

[Linus Sebastian]

Okay. On the subject, I'm sorry, on the subject.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Had to intervene there.

[Linus Sebastian]

On the subject of networking infrastructure and security, routers are illegal in America now. Okay, that's a bit of a sensationalist headline, but it's also not that far off.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah.

[Linus Sebastian]

An FCC policy update earlier this week effectively bans the sale of consumer grade routers that are not made in the US which as far as we can tell is pretty much all of them except some percentage of Starlink routers unless they have already received FCC authorization, which

[Luke Lafreniere]

I think is gonna be a lot of them.

[Linus Sebastian]

Which is all of them.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Okay. Yeah, yeah.

[Linus Sebastian]

So this is kind of like the drone thing. Remember when they banned all non US made drones, but then all the ones that are for sale now are fine.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Honestly, to me, this kind of rhymes with China banning battery banks that aren't made in China.

[Linus Sebastian]

Is that the case?

[Luke Lafreniere]

It's, it's something like that.

[Linus Sebastian]

Oh no, no, no. It's a particular Chinese certification. Yeah, that's not made in China. That's, that's, that's separate. That's separate.

[Luke Lafreniere]

But as far as my understanding goes, it's almost entirely ones that are made in China.

[Linus Sebastian]

Well, I mean most battery banks are made in China, but like say hypothetically, ccs, say hypothetic. No, it's triple C, I believe.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Okay.

[Linus Sebastian]

Say hypothetically we were to make a battery bank.

[Luke Lafreniere]

You could get it certified for that.

[Linus Sebastian]

And let's say our cells were made in hypothetically, you know, Korea or you know, somewhere.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Sure.

[Linus Sebastian]

And our PCBs were made, you know, wherever and you know, whatever. Right. Stuff. Right?

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Linus Sebastian]

We could totally just do triple C certification. Nothing would prevent that.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Does is are there certification houses outside of China that do that? Certification?

[Linus Sebastian]

No idea. But finding a certification house in China

[Luke Lafreniere]

for battery banks is gotta be easy.

[Linus Sebastian]

Is pretty.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Gotta be all over the place. Yeah.

[Linus Sebastian]

It's not a big deal. Yeah.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah.

[Linus Sebastian]

Okay. There is a little bit more to talk through on this one. It's not clear exactly what constitutes consumer grade, but foreign made appears to be anything physically manufactured outside the US Regardless of what country the company is based in. This policy change comes after the commission received a national security determination which states that vulnerabilities in foreign made small and home office routers represent unacceptable risk to Americans. An FCC fact sheet clarifies that the update does not prohibit the import, sale or use of any existing device models that the FCC previously authorized. All new models will need to be approved by DOW of DHS or dhs. I think that probably means I'm going to go with or there. The FCC notice also offers some details on how companies can obtain conditional approval with exactly zero questions about security, but it must include a detailed time bound plan for onshoring manufacturing to the US in statements to the Verge, both TP Link and Asus expressed confidence in the security of their respective supply chains and neither company gave any indication that they would be move any manufacturing capacity to the US for consumer routers.

[Luke Lafreniere]

You want some real expensive routers?

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah, I mean is that our conversation or our discussion topic for this one?

[Luke Lafreniere]

There's some like. I don't know how I'd find this. Serve the Home had a video on it or what was it? Serve the Home. Serve the Home was on Geerling's channel I think talking about a like really cool looking. I'm pretty sure it was a router but it was very expensive.

[Linus Sebastian]

I mean. Yeah, Serve the homes. Talking about it. It's probably expensive. That's a circle. Things Serve the home covers and things that are very expensive. Perfect circle. Completely overlapping. Yeah. A lot of commercial enterprise grade stuff. He does a great job.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Well, he was on Gearling's channel and Gearling sometimes covers some cheaper stuff.

[Linus Sebastian]

Gearling also sometimes covers some very expensive stuff he does.

[Luke Lafreniere]

And I think this is 600 bucks. And it's probably 600 bucks American.

[Linus Sebastian]

Like oh, real dollars.

[Luke Lafreniere]

A lot of dollars. Yeah. I think it was this video from Jen. Gen 2.

[Linus Sebastian]

Are you planning to skip that ad at some point? Thank you.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I don't usually watch YouTube with ads.

[Linus Sebastian]

You're killing me.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Where. Where is it? It's not that one. It's what's in his hand right there.

[Linus Sebastian]

I love Patrick's shirt. Nice.

[Luke Lafreniere]

They're both just like solid color white text.

[Linus Sebastian]

Nice.

[Luke Lafreniere]

But yeah, it's. It's a pretty cool looking little thing this one. But. And I think this is made in

[Linus Sebastian]

the US I think I've heard of this thing.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Mono rotor specifically Dev kit model. Yeah, I think.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah.

[Luke Lafreniere]

And I'm pretty sure it's made in the US but it's. It again, it's US$600. Final price of the kit right here.

[Linus Sebastian]

I think I've heard of this. Sorry, what's it called? Mono.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Not made in the U.S. oh, it's made in the EU. Okay.

[Dan]

Well

[Luke Lafreniere]

then it doesn't solve the problem. But it's a cool video and it's a cool little device. Maybe check that out. What do you want, Sammy? Bye, Sammy. Czech Republic.

[Linus Sebastian]

Oh, these guys reached out at me, out to me at some point. Oh, well, did I not reply to them? I think I meant to. Well. Oops. Wow. Good for them. That's so cool. I remember watching the video they sent me that was about like the development of this thing, if it's the one that I'm thinking of. We raised $500,000 to manufacture our high end router. Yeah, yeah, this thing.

[Luke Lafreniere]

That's it for sure. I recognize the name.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah, that's. Yeah, that's. That's super cool. I totally. I did not mean to ghost these guys. I must have just accidentally marked the emails.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I wasn't trying to set you up for that.

[Linus Sebastian]

No, no, yeah, that's. I mean, I think everyone misses an email email from time to time.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah, sure.

[Linus Sebastian]

But yeah. Wow. Yeah. Good for them. That's fantastic. They are, they're across the line now, right?

[Luke Lafreniere]

It is. I mean it is fantastic. But also I'm pretty sure if you go to his, like his actual YouTube channel. Okay, Thomas. Right. And then. What's this?

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah, something like that. Oh my God. I closed it. I'm sorry, hold on one second.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Oh, good.

[Linus Sebastian]

Zaman.

[Luke Lafreniere]

He has a recent video.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. We built a thousand routers and made zero dollars. Yeah. Relatable.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I don't know.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah, right. I. Oh, dude. And then there was the recent thing where Derbauer got completely, completely over on some, not all. Yeah. It's so funny because every time we make one of those videos that's like, it took us three years to make a screwdriver. Ask me why. You know, we took three years to make or four years or however long it took to make the cables. Why is that? People there, there will inevitably be like a contingent of people in the comments that are like, yeah, it's because you guys are so incompetent and blah, blah, dude, creating anything is so hard. And I think that it has fundamentally altered my perspective to move from, from selling like being a merchant to reviewing and evaluating, to actually making to, to. To. To being responsible for everything from the initial funding to the final delivery, the final quality of the delivered product. It's so much harder. And it makes it. It's given me, I think at times a perspective that people have found abrasive where I'm. And it can come across, I think a little bit bootlickery where I am like. Yeah, but I, I get It. I see their side. I see their perspective. Because I mean, here, let's bring up something really uncomfortable. Mod Mat. Oh, where you're publicly talking about is the mod Mat.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Where is the mod Mat?

[Linus Sebastian]

Where is it?

[Luke Lafreniere]

Where is it, Linus?

[Linus Sebastian]

Where is it?

[Luke Lafreniere]

I don't. I know nothing about it. I know it doesn't exist.

[Linus Sebastian]

Where it is, is. It is figuratively in a space that illustrates the challenges of creating physical products. That's where it is right now. Right now. How do we get it out of there?

[Luke Lafreniere]

It's releasing on April 1st.

[Linus Sebastian]

No, no, it isn't.

[Luke Lafreniere]

It totally is.

[Linus Sebastian]

Sure. No, it's not

[Dan]

April 1st. Joke is that it's a joke that it's still not out.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah, so I also didn't say which year, But yeah, cool little device. Apparently not made in the States. Yeah, totally irrelevant to the conversation, but maybe go check it out.

[Linus Sebastian]

I wish I'm luck. It's funny how a lot people will assume that anything made in the west is made in the States. Like I saw we had a video earlier this week about. Oh my gosh, it's not in the dock. ARM makes CPUs now. Yeah, we had a whole video about that earlier this week. You should go watch it. Because arm, instead of just licensing IP or providing sort of prefabbed, ready for you to integrate into your own silicon sort of IP guidance and kits, core designs, what do they call them? CCS or something, whatever. I forget what they call it, but basically these kind of blocks of various IPs that include their processing cores that you can, you know, cobble together your own processor out of. Instead of just doing that, they actually are going to be directly selling ARM branded silicon in the, in the data center. Now, specifically for AI. To their credit, what they're after is making AI way more efficient. Which is like if we're going to have AI, it being more efficient seems like, not terrible. But anyway, where was I? Where was it going with the freight? I saw a bunch of comments that were like, oh yeah, now we have like, you know, America made, you know, an American CPU brand. We have American made CPUs and something, something, something's like, bro, like Acorn started in, in Europe. What are you talking about? It's not American company.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Like, what about intel and Qualcomm?

[Linus Sebastian]

Okay, so hold on a second. This was something that I looked up like three times to make sure that I had it right. IIRFTW says, oh, wait, no, no, you're right. Yeah. ARM hasn't made their own chips since the BBC Micro. So ARM got up on stage and said, this is the first time we're making an ARM chip. And I kind of went, well, that doesn't sound right, because I thought that was literally like what you guys did the first time. And there's that famous story of how the ARM chip was so efficient that they powered it off and just like there was enough power in the signal lines or something that it would like stayed powered on for a long time or something. And they came in the lab the next day and it was like, still outputting or something.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Whoa.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah, it's crazy, crazy efficient chip. But that was made by acorn. That was before they became arm, which happened, I think, like two or three years later or something like that.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I like the ACORN name.

[Linus Sebastian]

This is the first actual ARM cpu.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Sweet. More people should maybe go watch that video.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah. Yeah, it did okay. It did okay. I mean, it. And it's the video form of like a press release. Like, I can't benchmark it. But true, this, this has major, major implications for the tech industry. It was very interesting to me being at the event and seeing ARM's stock drop during the keynote. And I was like, really? What? I don't understand this. Why is it dropping? This actually seems huge. And then it popped and then now we're, now we're back. What, even, what even our stock values anymore? I don't understand it.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Everything's just based on whatever's more entertaining.

[Linus Sebastian]

I think Ballerid says this happens to Apple stock every keynote too. Really? So is this just like, like, is this like a high frequency machine trading thing? That's just like the play, you know, you stocks are based on vibes. Yeah, I get it. And not advice. Like, not advice. Guys, I. This is not financial advice, but I, I think it's a pretty exciting opportunity. I don't love the way that they were so focused on its application for AI in the product announcement. Because when you tie your cart to that horse, you kind of live and die by it. And when you look at the implementations of ARMS cores that have already made their way, like, you can, you can rent an ARM instance from Amazon right now. Like, you can go right now and you can get a graviton instance and you can like use ARM data center processors right this second. And they, they don't have to be for AI, they can be for other things. And so I would have liked to see them talk a little bit more about what else these CPUs can do, because I'm sure they can do other stuff. But I also understand why in the current climate, with so much build out happening around AI, why, why they focused on it. It's just. I wish they had, I wish they talked about. Oh, and also all this other stuff, this legacy stuff that will also still exist, you know, at some point in the future. We can do that too. Oh, disclosure. That video was sponsored by arm. Our trip down was sponsored by arm. So take that for, for what it is. But I'm. They're not sponsored here and they're not going to be watching this, so I'm. Yeah, same.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Whatever.

[Linus Sebastian]

Nice, nice, nice. Oh, we should probably do sponsors. Speaking of sponsors. Until. Sponsors. No, we should do sponsors.

[Dan]

Okay.

[Linus Sebastian]

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[Luke Lafreniere]

That's weird.

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[Luke Lafreniere]

Sure.

[Linus Sebastian]

I'm feeling a Luke topic. Hold on. I'm going to. I'm going to. I'm going to try to predict which one it is. I'm going to predict it. Okay, I've got it on my screen. I'm ready.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I did a last minute pivot to change my mind. We'll see if he predicted that far. Meta and Google found Liable Dang,

[Linus Sebastian]

I was on that one first. Which one was your first?

[Luke Lafreniere]

First one. That one. Oh, man. Meta and Google found Liable in landmark Social Media Addiction Trial Two landmark rulings against social media companies happened this week. Tuesday, a New Mexico jury ordered meta to pay $375 million for misleading parents about the safety of Facebook, Instagram and WhatsApp. Then on Wednesday, an LA jury found Meta and YouTube negligent for harming kids through addictive platform design. Awarding the plaintiff in the case 3 million in damages. 70% of that from Meta, 30% of that from YouTube. The New Mexico case. So the first one grew out of a 2023 undercover sting conducted by the Guardian. Like the newspaper.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Okay, cool. To investigate investigative journalism. Let's go. To investigate the risks that children are exposed to on Instagram and Facebook, internal documents and testimony from former employees show Meta repeatedly ignored warnings about child safety. Surprise, surprise.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah.

[Luke Lafreniere]

No one would have ever guessed the New Mexico. Nope, sorry. Law enforcement also testified that Meta's crime reporting was deficient because Meta relied too heavily on AI moderation, generating high volumes of junk reports that made investigations practically impossible. Surprise, surprise again. During that trial, Zuckerberg and Instagram lead or, sorry, Instagram head Adam Mosseri testified that that harms to children were inevitable on their platform due to their massive user Bases, huh? Okay, cool. The $375 million penalty, $5,000 per violation with 75,000 violations, is substantial, but is less than one fifth of what the prosecutors initially sought. Though further restitution might be ordered as the case moves to a bench trial in May where a judge will rule on public nuisance claims that could see Meta being forced to change how its platforms work.

[Dan]

Wow.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Awesome.

[Linus Sebastian]

Interesting.

[Luke Lafreniere]

The LA case was a seven week trial brought by a 20 year old woman. Okay, sure.

[Linus Sebastian]

I think the point is just that she's young and pretty much is at an age now where she grew up being impacted by these platforms.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Got it. Okay.

[Linus Sebastian]

Okay. I think that's the only reason we're mentioning the age.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Sure. Her argument was that Meta and YouTube deliberately designed their platforms with features like Infinite Scroll. That's kind of the primary one, Autoplay, which kind of ties into Infinite Scroll. I don't really know that many things in Infinitely scroll, but you have to press the Play button and push notifications that exploit dopamine responses to keep kids hooked. The plaintiff's lawyers focused on the app's design rather than their content, which I actually personally completely agree with, which is what allowed them to get around section 230. I think any app that Infinitely Scrolls you should be looking at critically. Anyways. Meta's defense tied to argue her struggles met his defense, tried to argue that her struggles were caused by other factors. A difficult family life, bullying at school. They pointed out. Yeah, they pointed out.

[Linus Sebastian]

This is float plane.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah. I think you should scrutinize why it does that and how it affects your usage of the platform. And I think the end result that

[Linus Sebastian]

much though, and it's not algorithmic.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah. I think the end result of scrutinizing that on Full Plane is it really actually do anything, which is fine. And then I think you can look at a platform like Instagram and be like, oh, wow, this is very clearly designed to keep me going.

[Linus Sebastian]

I'm just teasing.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I'm just saying. No, I think you should scrutinize it though. And I have had this thought before of like, oh, Floatplane does that. But I, in my case, I think it's fine, not infinite. That's kind of true. You do technically come to an end. But I think it ends. I think it's long enough that it could be put in the category still.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah. And I managed to scroll through so many videos that it's like bogged down enough that it's not a great infinite scrolling experience.

[Luke Lafreniere]

You're out of the preload.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah, it's like the platform's really not designed for that type of infinite scrolling. Like Twitter, YouTube, Instagram, etc, Facebook, etc are all designed to really like that is what they're for. And they're designed to keep you there and they're going to auto play everything and all that kind of stuff. But Full Plane is really not like that, even though it can load.

[Linus Sebastian]

Sorry, Carry.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I will defend this forever. Anyways. Okay. Yeah. Meta's defense. Meta's defense tried to argue that her struggles were caused by other factors. A difficult family life, bullying at school. They also pointed out that notes from six months of therapy didn't mention social media addiction or name any apps.

[Linus Sebastian]

Imagine going after someone that way. Imagine someone saying, hey, your product damaged me. And you being like, yo, y' all broken, cuz. Your family sucks. And you were bullied.

[Luke Lafreniere]

And our platform was just, we just took advantage of that.

[Linus Sebastian]

Couldn't help noticing that you had six months of therapy.

[Luke Lafreniere]

How'd they get the notes?

[Linus Sebastian]

Dude, I don't know.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Like, did, did she.

[Linus Sebastian]

I mean, as part of discovery, I guess they could ask for something like that.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Can you get notes from your therapy as part of the.

[Linus Sebastian]

I don't know. That sounds crazy, but that sounds nuts to me. Me. I mean, I, I, I've never, I've never.

[Luke Lafreniere]

No idea.

[Linus Sebastian]

Look, there's a. I am not a litigious person. You know, if I'm ever, I, I want to make it clear that if I'm ever pushed to pass the limit, like, I, yeah, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll do it, but I really don't wanna. And I've managed to be in this industry for this long without ending up in a courtroom. I'd like to keep it that way. What was I gonna say here was, yeah, so I don't, so I don't know, like, how this process works, but from everything I've heard, it sucks.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yes, you can absolutely get therapy notes. That's super sketch.

[Linus Sebastian]

So what you're telling me is don't go to therapy? That's not what we're saying. Not advice here. I'm gonna sit over here for a second.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I tried. I freaking hated it. But anyways, that's a story for another

[Linus Sebastian]

time, maybe not when.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah. Yeah. Jurors nearly unanimously sided with the plaintiff, awarding her $3 million in damages. With the jury still deliberating on punitive damages, which could significantly increase the payout.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah, $3 million sounded like just a slap on the wrist, but if you sort of look at the Bigger picture here. There are over 3,000 similar lawsuits pending in California, plus more than 40 state attorneys general who have filed against Metta. And that $3 million is to one person. The floodgates could be open here.

[Luke Lafreniere]

That could be kind of fun. Discussion question. Section 230 has been the bedrock legal defense for social media companies for 30 years. These two juries just reject it if that precedent holds up on appeal. What does the social media landscape look like when platforms can be sued for how their algorithms serve content to kids?

[Linus Sebastian]

I think it could look a lot more like it used to look where you friend people and then you see whatever your friend actually posted.

[Luke Lafreniere]

So awesome. The Internet being cool again would be so sick.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah, I'd be down.

[Luke Lafreniere]

It would be so cool.

[Linus Sebastian]

I would. I'm a little older now. I would use Facebook.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Me too.

[Linus Sebastian]

Like the old one.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah, me too.

[Linus Sebastian]

I would legitimately use it. I would. I would be an active user and like, you could. You can go on my Facebook. You can see that even when Facebook.

[Luke Lafreniere]

No, it's not cool.

[Linus Sebastian]

What kind of cool?

[Luke Lafreniere]

What are you missing then?

[Linus Sebastian]

Hold on, hold on. I'm going to find me.

[Luke Lafreniere]

They want ID laws for app stores. Oh, I think these things are different.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah, this is. That's not what we're.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I agree with you that. That sucks, but I think these things are different.

[Linus Sebastian]

Where am I? I don't know. I don't know how to. I don't know how to find myself on Facebook. Literally don't know how to use Facebook. This is cute, though.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I don't know. This is.

[Linus Sebastian]

This is from the LTT channel.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Nice.

[Linus Sebastian]

Don't talk to me or my son ever again. Anyway, the point is, I posted. Not at all. But I'm. If I was actually posting to people who I actually am connected with and care about, then I probably use it just because I don't socially interact with those people in person all the time anymore. And it's. It's easy, it's convenient. It's just. It's so. It's so unusable now.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah.

[Linus Sebastian]

That there's no temptation whatsoever. Beyond messenger.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Short form dopamine. Abusing garbage. Trash. Content is like everywhere now. And it's also on Facebook. Was just like.

[Linus Sebastian]

Oh, it's especially on Facebook.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I had to go on there to message a family member very recently jumped on Facebook on desktop and just like looked around for a sec and was

[Linus Sebastian]

just like, oh, it's so bad. And if you frequent communities, like, am I the. You'll see. You'll start to see the like repurposing and recirculation of like, AI generated stories with like, slightly different twists. And so there will be a version of it that you notice on Facebook where, you know, he cheated and then this happened, and then this happened, and then this happened, and then there was a thing with my dog. And like, you've got these, these stories that are just designed for you to like, keep staying engaged to find out what happens next. And it's. It's all fake.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah.

[Linus Sebastian]

Except when it isn't. But it seems to be all fake. Yeah. So gross.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I don't know. The good news though, the comments about the age verification for app stores thing, I don't. I understand where you're coming from about these things being related, because this whole thing is algorithms for kids.

[Linus Sebastian]

No, but the. Okay, this is.

[Luke Lafreniere]

But I think there are two things happening at the same time that have similar topics.

[Linus Sebastian]

And I also think that if we are, if we're talking about this product being designed to be harmful for kids in a way where it's keeping you engaged through intentional, like, dopamine spikes, it's not a far reach to go. Okay, but then is it also designed to be harmful to adults?

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah.

[Linus Sebastian]

And I think this is harmful to everyone. And, and so we could end up with a very good outcome here. You know, in much the same way that marketing is restricted in many territories around products like cigarettes, drugs, alcohol. Used to be for gambling. I don't know what happened there. We sort of had a good thing and then we decided, ah, you know what, forget it. Let's just let it go rampant.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Sorry. One side Serious Scaper is, I think their name says this is walking the Internet as we know it, meaning LTT 4 arm, flow plane, ET cetera, will be liable. Actually, neither of those that you named will be liable at all based on the reading that I have here.

[Linus Sebastian]

Because we don't algorithmically serve content.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah, we don't do it at all. So I, I haven't personally read section 230, but the notes that we have in the doc here say specifically that platforms can be sued for how their algorithms serve content to kids.

[Linus Sebastian]

It's not the content itself that they're liable for. Because, yeah, section 230, they didn't create the content. They can't be responsible for every user generated piece of content that's uploaded to their sites. But what they can be responsible for is curating it algorithmically to generate a stimulus, a stimulus response, chemical reaction in your brain that keeps you hooked on it. That's the Conversation, not the content itself. So there's not a single platform that we operate that would fall under that. And Serious Scaper is making a bit of a slippery slope argument here about this. Opening the door is sort of the next thing that they're saying here. And you know what? Maybe I personally do not immediately dismiss a slippery slope fallacy argument because there's plenty of historical precedent for the slippery slope. Absolutely. Being a thing where I take issue with your argument though, is that I don't think that this slope that we're on in this particular ruling leads to repealing section 230 or significantly revising it. I don't think that anyone in their right mind is going to make a platform responsible for every single individual thing that a user posts, because it's not realistic. It's just plain not realistic.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah, algorithmic suggestion is quite different from ugc. It's interesting. I think something needs to change. I. I totally understand the whole slippery slope thing and that being a concern. I think where we're at now is like extremely toxic and extremely negative for all of humanity that is connected to the Internet and has to be addressed somehow. I don't know that this is the best way. I don't know that this leads us down the best path.

[Linus Sebastian]

Okay, something's got to change. I do think Serious Scaper might be a little bit, kind of barking down the wrong path a little bit, saying literally, the ones who want laws to pass that would require ID laws, AKA surveillance, is these giant tech companies and this is the next step. No, no, no, no, no. They want ID laws and all of that. They want more personal information. They oppose this. They lost this case. This, this lawsuit. They lost it. This is not the direction they want to go. This is the opposite of what they want right now. So this is. We're not saying. Yes, that's. This is good because it benefits Facebook and Meta and Google. That. That's not what happened here. What happened is Meta and Google lost.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah.

[Linus Sebastian]

In a way that is. Has the potential to make the kind of algorithmic serving of content that has become so addictive that it is doing measurable damage to a generation of people. Illegal, hopefully, or at least financially impractical.

[Luke Lafreniere]

We should stop this topic. But I'll throw in one last thing. It says, literally the parents of the kids in this case came out and said, pass cosa, which is a surveillance law. Yeah. But that's not what the case was about.

[Linus Sebastian]

Right.

[Luke Lafreniere]

They can say whatever they want. They could come out and say, chicken wings are Better than burgers or I prefer hot dogs and waffles suck and I'm a pancakes boy and it wouldn't mean anything. But anyways, let's talk more good news. I understand your point and I think it is a valid concern.

[Linus Sebastian]

Bigger battle mage is here. The ARC Pro B65 and B70 were announced earlier this week and we've got a couple of spec sheets here. One for the B65 and one for the B70. Let's go ahead and, let's go ahead and pull these up. This is so funny. I'm on intel arc. Reading about intel arc. Yo dog, I heard you like arc, so I put ARC on your arc so you can arc, will you? Arc? I don't think they call this ARC anymore. But the joke is that Intel's product specifications website where you could just kind of look at a data sheet like this for any product.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Used to be called intel arc.

[Linus Sebastian]

Used to be called intel arc.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah.

[Linus Sebastian]

All right, so what do we got? What do we got? Micro Architecture XC2TSMC, N5. Oh man, you see what TSMC said about unless you're like a loyal long term customer, you ain't getting no N3. So yeah, intel probably wouldn't fall under that. So they're gonna have to fab their own GPUs going forward. It sounds like I'm probably reading too much into it, but whatever. So the 65 gets 20 XE cores and the 70 gets 32. So this is what was probably supposed to be the rumored B770. But the bad part of the news is we're not getting that in a consumer card. The good part of the news here is that, hey, at least it's coming to light. So it does exist. Which means maybe if the Rampocalypse, you know, ends reasonably soon, we could get it someday or something. And it also means intel has not abandoned GPUs. Everything intel does. That shows that they're still making GPUs is encouraging for me because we must, we must not have a monopoly in this space. So either 20 or 32 ray tracing units. All right, that's pretty cool. Vector engines 162. Oh, wow. So the, the B70 is like a much, much beefier card.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Oh yeah, it's a thousand dollars higher clocked. She's in the US.

[Linus Sebastian]

She's a, she's a big boy.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah.

[Linus Sebastian]

PCIe Gen 5x16 for both of them. And both of them, this is pretty cool. Have 256 bit interfaces and 32 gigs of GDDR6.

[Luke Lafreniere]

That 32 gigs memory is pretty nice.

[Linus Sebastian]

That is a fat amount of GDDR memory for under $1,000 GPU.

[Luke Lafreniere]

A lot of these are going to end up in potentially dual GPU setups.

[Linus Sebastian]

It's very clear what intel is trying to do here. They are trying to get home lab people running arc, optimizing their AI crap for ARC so that longer term their data center accelerators are going to have people familiar with how to use them. Seems pretty smart.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I am not super on top of this stuff. Someone in chat said, is it GDDR6? And I went to go confirm that it is. I also think that should be. You really just care about the capacity a lot. I'm pretty sure.

[Linus Sebastian]

Okay. Okay. It's twofold.

[Luke Lafreniere]

So for the workloads that I suspect people are gonna be using this for, I wanna add that caveat before you. Keep going.

[Linus Sebastian]

It's okay. So we covered this in a fair bit more detail in that video that. That we worked on with Nick Harris from the lab. Yeah. So what was that? That was a H100 card, I think it was. Was an H100 or H200. It was an older data center AI accelerator from Nvidia. And what we talked about was, okay, like capacity and speed and sort of the relationship there. So for certain AI workloads, the speed actually matters quite a lot.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Okay.

[Linus Sebastian]

And that's why you have these HBM stacks that are sitting right next to the die.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah.

[Linus Sebastian]

And from my. From what I can remember, and this is one of those things where I will often go and relearn something so that I can do a video about it. And then if I don't touch it for six months, then I'll kind of forget a lot of the details and then I'll have to like go touch up on it again. But from what I can remember, a lot of it is down to training. You want the speed for training. And then when it comes to. When it comes to inference, when it comes to actually using the models, the speed of the memory is not quite as important. But the capacity of the memory matters because you have to be able to fit the model into your working memory or else your speed drops off dramatically. So having faster memory might make you a little bit faster for inference. A little bit. But not having enough takes you from here to here because all of a sudden you're swapping out to storage and that's brutal. So, yeah, GDDR6 not going to be the end of the world. And the fact that it's on a 256 bit bus is going to help. So total bandwidth that intel quotes is something in the neighborhood of, I think it was 660 gigabytes a second. 608 gigabytes a second. Which is not industry leading by any stretch of the imagination. But with this much memory for what people are trying to do at home, Right. Where they're not trying to do this at an industrial scale, it's going to be faster enough for just having that capacity that this could be very appealing for home labbers.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah, yeah. I want to take us on a weird aside for a second. I think it was in the pre show. We were talking about the expense of live streaming. Was that in the pre show?

[Linus Sebastian]

No, that was in the main show, I think. Was it?

[Luke Lafreniere]

Either way, I know I realized I wanted to do an updated count because I saw that, you know, on. On YouTube. Weird. Oh, this is an older. Oh boy. Where'd it go? There. On YouTube. We have 8.9 thousand now. So we've kind of like cooked a little bit. Wancho takes a little bit to get its viewer viewership up. But I noticed something that was wrong the first time I came to the calculator, which was I totaled our viewership between YouTube and Twitch. So I got a 10,800. But then I saw. I saw this and I remembered this. Average viewer watch duration 50%.

[Linus Sebastian]

Oh.

[Luke Lafreniere]

But if I'm looking at the people currently watching, that is not how that would work. So if we round it down, because I know wan show takes a little bit to grow its viewership and we just go to 10,000.

[Linus Sebastian]

We hit pretty close to peak after about the first. I'm actually just looking at it right now. About an hour in. We're pretty close to peak. Yeah.

[Luke Lafreniere]

And if we change this to so we go down to 10,000. So we shave off a decent amount of viewers and let's say 100%. We can also do 90. Which one do you want to do?

[Linus Sebastian]

I wish we could do 75. Yeah, let's do 90. Let's do a worst case scenario because I also think you rounded down on how many people were watching, so.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I did.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I did.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah.

[Luke Lafreniere]

So we'll round up on by like almost a thousand.

[Linus Sebastian]

That's crazy. Please tell me we're not spending that much. Right. Watching on flow plane.

[Luke Lafreniere]

We've got around 10% of that.

[Linus Sebastian]

Sorry, it's probably me.

[Luke Lafreniere]

It's fun times.

[Linus Sebastian]

Every time we stream land show. Really? Okay, so what Luke is trying to say is head on over to lttstore.com okay.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Oh sure.

[Linus Sebastian]

And send us a checkout message. Just go ahead and grab one of our new flexible magnetic cable management arches. Yep. Or you can pick something up from our tax write off sale open box commuter backpack. Oh, Oh. How do I get to the US Store?

[Luke Lafreniere]

Very bottom little.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah, I know. I just wish I could just alter the URL. Okay, well, they're still in the US Store. Well, anyway, whatever. Yeah, shop around, find something. Send a merch message. Every little bit helps. What? Why not?

[Luke Lafreniere]

You said merch message.

[Linus Sebastian]

Oh shoot. Balls. Check out message. Checkout message.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Okay.

[Linus Sebastian]

Do you want to picture?

[Luke Lafreniere]

Should we do.

[Dan]

Ow.

[Linus Sebastian]

That hurt.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah, that was a little interesting strategy.

[Linus Sebastian]

Well, that way I'll remember rubber band works too.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Maybe there might be other ways to do that.

[Linus Sebastian]

I've tried all the other ways.

[Dan]

Luke Cat of 9 Dales let's do

[Luke Lafreniere]

the Apple Business thing. Apple unveils Apple Business an all in one platform to completely replace and consolidate their current offerings. It will unify device management productivity tools device management and productivity tools within a single interface. Apple Business will feature built in mobile device management or mdm using their new blueprint system to let admins reconfigure devices with specific apps and security policies. Additionally, it introduces managed Apple accounts with cryptographic separation between personal and work data. Cool. Apart from IT features like Honestly, as someone who has done IT stuff, get your personal stuff off of off of our things. I don't want to see your bank account publicly shared in a password manager. I don't want that. I actually specifically want that to not be there because I don't want the responsibility of that being even possible. So just keep it on your own stuff. Anyways, it ran over Apart from IT features, Apple Business also adds customer engagement features features such as brand profiles, customizable place cards and Apple maps. Oh neat. And tap to pay branding. Apple also announced for their US and Canadian users later this summer that business will be able to Businesses maybe will be able to create search results, ads for Apple maps and a suggested places interface. Sure. I don't know. Out of all the things to make exclusive ads is a dit imo. Yeah, that's a little odd. But anyways the platform will be freely available starting April 14th in over 200 countries.

[Linus Sebastian]

This is incredible. This plus the MacBook Neo Bruh.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Apple is Apple's coming through your neck. If you're a huge variety of different companies.

[Linus Sebastian]

If you are an educational if you if you rely on shifting like huge numbers of books to educational institutions or in a corporate environment. Apple Sees your pie and they're like, yes, yes, your pie and your pie and your pie. I'll have all the pie. I'll just have all of it. Because already you see so many MacBooks in corporate and in education. And that was with sort of previous versions of, of a mishmash of this functionality, bringing it all together in one easier to manage package. Because that's what it ultimately comes down to is give me reasonable hardware, make it easy for me to manage. And I literally won't even call someone else unless it's just to get a competitive quote to like, you know, keep you accountable, keep you honest. Once someone locks in, there's a lot of inertia there. But in spite of the inertia of Chromebooks and Windows, I don't think anybody's thrilled with those platforms right now. No. And so for Apple to come in and say, hey, we can take all of your problems and we can make them go away.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Also the incredible annoyance of managing them, it's just free.

[Linus Sebastian]

With that Apple magic, we put a little bit of Apple, we're gonna spit shine that Apple for you, dude. This is like a game changer and I've talked extensively about this in the past, but whatever the youngins grow up using.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Linus Sebastian]

Has a serious impact on what they're going to want to use when they get older. It's one of the reasons that the piracy of the Adobe suite was such a game changer for Adobe and why

[Luke Lafreniere]

as far as I can tell, DaVinci Resolve is going to take over in the next five to 10 years.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah, and not piracy in that case, but just free access to it with hard. With hardware purchase. At least I think it's still with hardware purchase. Do you still have to buy anything to get Da Vinci?

[Luke Lafreniere]

I don't, I don't think so.

[Linus Sebastian]

No. It's just free outright.

[Dan]

Yeah, you can get a pro version, right?

[Linus Sebastian]

Okay, pro version.

[Dan]

But otherwise DaVinci are just free with.

[Linus Sebastian]

These guys are such mad. And it's so good. Such mad lads. Where was I going with this? Right, so. But unlike a Chromebook where there's a lot of friction around continuing to use a Chromebook forever because of just, you know, app compatibility and it's always, I think it will drive me crazy forever if Google loses this Chromebook thing and I look back at it and I go, you guys were Linux. You had an opportunity to embrace the Linuxness of Chrome os. You decided not to. Yeah, that will always. That will be like, that will be like a Microsoft phone Level like, like intel missing the, the investment in. Well, I don't know how the OpenAI thing's gonna turn out, but like I'm gonna say no, I'm gonna say Microsoft Phone. That will be like a Microsoft Phone level colossal. Up to me to look back on and go, if this Chrome OS thing doesn't work out, the fact that you guys didn't just embrace Linux on it and not try to make it just a browser, I'll never get over it.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah. What a weird decision. Yeah, this is, this is when, hold

[Linus Sebastian]

on, when Bingo Chronified says they have embraced it. It's trivially easy to enable the Linux underlay and app, get stuff like VLC and open off the. And Chrome OS via Linux. Trivially easy. But it should just. They should be promoting it is what I'm saying. There's a big difference between allowing it and pushing it and contributing to it. Like what Valve is doing. Google should have been doing what Valve is doing. Like really making Chrome OS a Linux distro.

[Luke Lafreniere]

The biggest push for Linux in recent history was the Steam deck and still is the Steam deck.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Like if you look on Proton db, tons of the comments are Steam Deck based.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah. Because there's so freaking many of them out there.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah.

[Linus Sebastian]

All right. Oh, right. What were you were going to say something about the Apple platform. Are we done?

[Luke Lafreniere]

It probably didn't matter much what the Apple platform.

[Linus Sebastian]

I think it's really important. He doesn't know. He doesn't know.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Mac OS is Unix based, which is interesting I think as well. Just like another competitor in that space I think is actually really good. I'm very frustrated with all of the current offerings. I think they just kind of suck. I had a conversation recently about our setup because we're trying to figure out moving off some of them to save money because we're on like just everything which sucks. And the conversation was something about like basically, I don't know, email just sucks everywhere. Because, yeah, me, yeah, we're trying to reduce that. So like email just kind of sucks everywhere. And the reason why email sucks everywhere is because the basic functionality of email has been fine for a long time and search is bad everywhere.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah.

[Luke Lafreniere]

So it's just like, okay, whatever. And then you get to messaging and it's like, okay, well the messaging options are either really bad or too expensive for what they are.

[Linus Sebastian]

Dude. I searched for the word patent in my Gmail inbox the other day because our wonderful boss asked me to find out if I had ever corresponded on something to do with A patent with someone. And I searched for it and I was like, why the f. Are these results out of order? And it turns out it defaulted to relevancy, which I decide what's relevant. I'm like, what are you talking about? I want. So I'm scrolling, scrolling, scrolling, and I. All of a sudden I come to something that from very recent. And so I realize it's not chronological. I'm like, sure, if you want to have like, here's the three or four that I think are the most relevant and surface them at the top. Yeah, that's fine. But by the time I'm sorting, by the time I've scrolled infinitely, you know, through three pages of results or whatever, obviously you didn't get it. Also give it to me in chronological order.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Obviously if I do a super vague search term. Yeah, like flight.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah. How could.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Maybe just give me the most recent one.

[Linus Sebastian]

It never does.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I'll get one from three years ago. I'll do like, I don't know, flight San Francisco. And it'll be like, ah, yes, I do understand that you have a flight to San Francisco in three days, but I'm gonna give you your time ticket from seven years ago. Hope you wanted that. It's just like, why, bro? Come on. So like, yeah, basically nobody cares about email because it's just sort of all junk. Nobody cares that much about chat because it's like, do I care enough about how much better slack is to pay more for it compared to teams? I don't know, maybe developers kind of do, but outside of that, maybe not so much. So most of it just kind of gets shrugged off. And the biggest problem we've ran into is like, wow, OneDrive is a fantastic piece of. And while Google Drive might be kind of neat, Google workspace bundling their AI crap into their subscriptions has made it so expensive.

[Linus Sebastian]

Dude, I was trying to. What was I trying to do the other day? I was. Oh, I was trying to write an email. Hold on.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I believe, I believe if you. You can get it out now. But there was like a period of time where they kind of forced AI junk to be included with their.

[Linus Sebastian]

No, it was, it was doing a bunch of like, like kind of like a spell check or grammar check. Like squiggled under the words in my email and I, in 10 seconds, very aggressive. Didn't spend that much time. I couldn't figure out how to turn it off. And it kept sort of trying to recommend tone changes to me and I'm like, no, it's an irate email and it's. It has an irate tone intentionally. Um, I was so annoyed and I'd have to. I'd have to go and actually like type an email right now to get it to try to do it. Maybe I'll just. I'll find the one I sent last night and I'll put it in.

[Luke Lafreniere]

But yeah, the. The biggest hurdle that we're running into is one, moving off of a chat system that you're currently using onto another one is definitely possible no matter where you go. But there is a lot of like resetting up group chats and resetting up channels and stuff that will take some time. So you're definitely losing productivity in the switch. So it needs to be worth the productivity loss to save the money on the thing. Okay, sounds good. We can figure that out. But the last one is just drive. Trying to get out of Google Drive to something else is proving a little daunting. If we do want to do that,

[Linus Sebastian]

should we.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Should we talk about. Should we talk about that thing we set up locally? Dan?

[Linus Sebastian]

It's not doing it right now, so I don't. I don't exactly know why, but this is funny. Have I told the story about the conversation I had with someone from Sony when I was over there recently where one of the things that I've started feeling tempted to do is to typo something on purpose in my email so people know that it was written by a human. So I said, I sent her an email. Super nice to meet you. Had a really great time checking out out the blank. Still under NDA. My only complaint is I can't show and talk about more of it. Looking forward to working together closely going forward. Here's a tip, yo, to prove I wrote this instead of delegating it to AI. So I've officially done it once now.

[Luke Lafreniere]

That's funny. Try OwnCloud. We're trying a few different things. The primary one where we've set up locally right now is nextcloud. Just to play around with that, see how that goes.

[Linus Sebastian]

Reach out to us like all the quite frequently. Okay. Yeah, that is the one.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Guess it worked because it was top of mind.

[Linus Sebastian]

Hey, you know what they say, if you don't get a date the first 500 times, you should definitely try. Ask again.

[Luke Lafreniere]

3,000 more. Yeah, we have a lot of emails.

[Linus Sebastian]

That's not advice.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah, don't do that.

[Linus Sebastian]

That's not advice.

[Luke Lafreniere]

That's literally harassment.

[Linus Sebastian]

Not legal advice.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Don't do that.

[Linus Sebastian]

But that's harassment.

[Luke Lafreniere]

So we're. We're Looking into that, Sebastian posted in float plane chat and said, where is it? Google Drive is really good. It's unfortunate. I think the things that Google Drive is really good at are honestly getting worse. I think its search is so abysmal that it's actually genuinely difficult to use at this point.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah. Like, why is it that. Okay, hold on. I might be getting this wrong because I know I've had issues sometimes, like searching for a doc when I'm in Google Drive or like searching for a file when I'm in Google Docs. Like, they don't seem to be able to decide whether they're just one platform or whether they're like separate platforms.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah.

[Linus Sebastian]

And I can never quite remember the rules of which things work across which other things.

[Luke Lafreniere]

It's very weird.

[Linus Sebastian]

So I'm not going to get into anything specific right now.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Someone brought up Proton's platform. I honestly didn't consider that one. Yeah, it's an interesting idea.

[Linus Sebastian]

They're improving both the drives, photos, docs, a bunch of stuff since launch. Yeah.

[Luke Lafreniere]

The primary thing that we need from their, like, Drive is their collaborative stuff. Because I will never be able to pry Excel, even out of the cold dead hands of many people at the office, it still wouldn't be able to get out of their hands. So there's going to be desktop access apps required for, from Microsoft, literally just for Excel for a decent amount of people. But outside of that, we need highly collaborative documents, both in sheet form and document form. And form form.

[Linus Sebastian]

Oh, Google Forms is actually kind of goated.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah. We seemed to be in a competition for years about can we find ways to buy Google Forms in other ways and then use those instead of using Google Forms. And I don't know why, but we seem to be mostly done doing that now, which is very cool.

[Linus Sebastian]

Sorry. Buy them in other ways.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah, Just try to find an external company that basically just has Google Forms and then pay for that and then use it for things internally. We did that like a lot. There was. There was a lot of that going on.

[Linus Sebastian]

Don't we just use Google Forms, though?

[Luke Lafreniere]

Oh, no.

[Linus Sebastian]

What? I don't understand what you're talking about right now. Does anyone else understand what he's talking about?

[Luke Lafreniere]

I know, like Jotform. Someone in chat guessed it. I think Jotform was something that we used for a while for like a bunch of things internally.

[Linus Sebastian]

But we do use Google Forms for a lot. Like we had some Q and A stuff from the last All Hands and

[Dan]

it was also paid for.

[Linus Sebastian]

Jotform.

[Luke Lafreniere]

And we also pay for, I think one or two other things that are basically just Google forms.

[Linus Sebastian]

Why?

[Luke Lafreniere]

Well, not as much anymore.

[Linus Sebastian]

Oh, I thought you were saying this was a strategy we were pursuing.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I was making a joke about how it seemed like it was.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah, yeah. Well, man, there's been, there's been a lot of stuff like that where someone has like a particular snowflake tool that they want to use and it's like, okay, bro, but couldn't you just do this in a spreadsheet? Yeah, I mean I was always just like, can we just. Is there. Can we just do this in a spreadsheet with some macros?

[Luke Lafreniere]

It turns out Google Sheets is like really powerful. No, it's not Excel. Don't shoot me.

[Linus Sebastian]

But it is very powerful.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah, it's funny too if you look at the like Microsoft Office. Let me try to find this. I was poking around Microsoft Office subscriptions the other day and it's. It's really kind of funky. You can just buy Excel like non subscription.

[Linus Sebastian]

Really?

[Luke Lafreniere]

It's like kind of hard to find it. Buy Excel.

[Linus Sebastian]

That's actually pretty cool. Yeah.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah. Here we go. Boink. 170 bucks.

[Linus Sebastian]

Oh well, I would do that. You can just buy it for one PC or Mac. Turn data into useful insights. Can you imagine if it was your job to write the marketing blurb for Microsoft Excel? Hold on. What else they got here? Spread. Share your spreadsheet with others and edit together in real time. Files must be shared from OneDrive compatible with Windows 11, Windows 10 or Mac OS. Wow. Thanks. Microsoft requirements Additional system requirements Internet access Microsoft account oh you.

[Luke Lafreniere]

But yeah, you can just buy Excel, which I thought was pretty interesting actually. I didn't realize you could actually just do that. So that was fascinating. They're making the support period for standalone apps super short compared to what it used to be. To encourage Microsoft. 365 subs that makes sense. Checks from Pancratz. But even if you look at their subscriptions, I was kind of poking into this. So we need. So yeah, you have plans with teams and your nice cheap one is eight bucks. But this one, you can tell they know about Excel. That was the most interesting thing for me to discover because this, the cheap one, the $8.10 one only includes the web and mobile versions of Excel. So you can't get the desktop version. And I was, I was talking to, I think it was Taryn. I was talking to Taryn about how I think it's interesting that through their subscription models they self incentivize not making Their web versions. Good. Which I find so funny.

[Linus Sebastian]

I know you love perverse incentives. Like, it's something you find, like, fascinating.

[Luke Lafreniere]

It is very fast to me, I guess. But like. Yeah. Because the jump to get the desktop version is double. Huge.

[Linus Sebastian]

It's literally double.

[Luke Lafreniere]

And I noticed that if you go for. I think it's plans without teams, I'm gonna have to find it. So we don't necessarily have to share yet. Oh, no, here it is. Just Microsoft360. Oh, what the frick? Just Microsoft365. Apps for Business, which includes the desktop versions is more expensive. So, you know, you know that they know internally that people really just need desktop Excel because it's so much better than everything else and they. They must have it. So I really think there's a pretty strong incentive to not make the web version good. Because the web version is right next to that with more other features at, like, half the price.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Six bucks includes Web of Excel and everything else.

[Linus Sebastian]

Microsoft is like the Facebook Marketplace equivalent of. I know what I got.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah.

[Linus Sebastian]

But only with Microsoft Excel. Everything else is just like, how can we try to make this Excel bouquet look compelled, more compelling than the other Excel bouquet?

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah, yeah. It's. It's. It's. That was wild to me because I'm basically trying to figure out, like, okay, there's a lot of, like, what happens if we go down X or Y path. It's like, do we stick with just Microsoft? Do we stick with just Google? Do we go with some. Some hybrid that's different than the hybrid we have now?

[Linus Sebastian]

Do we use Apple numbers?

[Luke Lafreniere]

Do we do something weird like that? And one of the static facts is that we must have Excel for certain people.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah.

[Luke Lafreniere]

It's not a crazy amount of the company, but it is. There are some people that accounting people,

[Linus Sebastian]

some of the people who work in, like, logistics and planning, and like, they

[Luke Lafreniere]

just need more powerful sheets.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah.

[Luke Lafreniere]

So sounds good. And it just turns out. Yeah, I mean, might just be 1170amonth to get them Word, Excel, PowerPoint, Note, Look. And they will open one of those apps.

[Linus Sebastian]

They might accidentally open Word maybe.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah.

[Linus Sebastian]

Or PowerPoint. Imagine using PowerPoint these days.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I should really just use Google Slides. Yeah, it's like, actually just easier.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah. To be clear, I'm not saying Slides is better, but I'm saying for how good a slide needs to be for 98% of people who need to make slides where no one's really gonna look at them, Google Slides is fine. Yeah. Cephalus says I use PowerPoint at work. All the time.

[Luke Lafreniere]

It's fine.

[Linus Sebastian]

It's fine. It's totally. It is fine. We're not saying it's bad.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah.

[Linus Sebastian]

We're just saying that for how closely. Anybody going to look at a PowerPoint slide? Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Do you want to move on?

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah.

[Linus Sebastian]

Crimson Desert finally gets support and soon optimization for Intel GPUs. After initially locking out ARC cards at launch, this was, this was shocking to see how this played out in public.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yes.

[Linus Sebastian]

I don't normally see intel just like publicly put someone on blast like that.

[Luke Lafreniere]

They really did. And I honestly, I'm here for it. I respect it.

[Linus Sebastian]

I'm here for it. Yep. They're acting hungry.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah.

[Linus Sebastian]

Which is what I like about Intel's ARC guys.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah.

[Linus Sebastian]

Like they're acting. They're acting hungry, they're acting scrappy.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Do we have the original like quote from them somewhere in here?

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah, it's right here. Over the past several years we've reached out to Pearl Abyss many times to help test, validate and optimize support for intel graphics. Providing early hardware drivers and engineering resources across multiple generations of Intel GPUs. That is an absolute mic drop of a truth bomb. After Pearl Abyss was basically like, no, we can't. Oh no we can't. Yeah, you know, look into Return. Can you imagine that you put all the support on the table and someone literally says if you have this product, look into the return policy for our game because we are just not interested.

[Luke Lafreniere]

That sucks so much.

[Linus Sebastian]

That sucks so much.

[Luke Lafreniere]

But I am happy that they seem to have pivoted since then.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah, yeah. Shout out. Shout out. Okay, Crimson Desert devs, shout out intel team for just burying the hatchet and getting things done for the sake of gamers. David Gauthier, who prepared this topic, one of our writers, says it's worth noting intel is currently approaching 1% market share, which sounds really small until you consider that we think of AMD as like, you know, the other player, you know. And AMD is at like approximately 7% according to the numbers that he's got, which I think I thought it was actually lower than that.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I was going to say wherever these numbers are from are painting a better picture than was recently in my head. So hopefully those numbers are accurate.

[Linus Sebastian]

I thought Nvidia was closer to 95 right now.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I thought they were too, but hopefully we're wrong and those numbers are right. Yeah, that would be awesome.

[Linus Sebastian]

Alright, what else we got?

[Luke Lafreniere]

But yeah, I'm going to say again, it would be a sick 180 maneuver if intel was able to get it nicely optimized and then bundle it with their GPUs. I think that'd be awesome.

[Linus Sebastian]

One another good news WAN show item.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yes.

[Linus Sebastian]

Just a reminder guys, we are gearing up for Good News WAN show month. Next month, April is going to be all good news WAN Shows. If it's not good news or can't at least be interpreted, interpret it in a positive way. Maybe we'll have a carve out for one bad news topic for WAN Show. That's it.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Maybe it's gonna have to be important.

[Linus Sebastian]

Very important. Critical. Yeah, Critically important. So Good News WAN show is coming next month. We're very excited for it. Also some other WAN show news is we are going to be starting the WAN show transition quite soon. We're moving from the LTT channel to the LMG Clips channel which is soon to be rebranded as the WAN Show. That is going to start on April 3, 2026 and for some period of time it will stream to both channels simultaneously. That soft transition is going to continue for some number of months and in the weeks leading up to the full final transition over to the WAN show channel, currently the LMG Clips channel, we will be sure to make multiple announcements so nobody gets lost trying to find the show. I had a fun idea because you know how people can be resistant to, you know, change, you know how they can be and you know, there, there can be sort of, there's, there's a friction to, you know, transition, you know, platform transition, even if it's within the same platform. What do you think of the idea of simultaneously streaming on both platforms for a really long time? I'm talking like six months. But hear me out. Every week the YouTube stream gets reduced by like 50 kilobit per second.

[Luke Lafreniere]

There'd have to be, There'd have to be.

[Linus Sebastian]

Sorry, did I say YouTube stream? I meant the Linus Tech channel stream. I knew what you meant. Yeah, so, so the, the LMG clips stream on YouTube would be full, full bitrate.

[Luke Lafreniere]

So you basically something explaining it so.

[Linus Sebastian]

So. Well no, because the community will self police at that point. It will make people go hey, what's going on? And then it will make people discuss it and then they'll go oh okay. And then they can transition over to the other one.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Interesting.

[Dan]

I wonder if I can lower the frame rate as well.

[Linus Sebastian]

I'd say that would be towards the very end like where we start, we

[Luke Lafreniere]

make it like 10fps 1fps wan show would be really funny.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah.

[Luke Lafreniere]

And so, and so the whole might Be too entertaining.

[Linus Sebastian]

The whole conversation of it is just gonna be, WTF is going on here? Can't these guys run a live stream? And they'll be like, dude, they've been talking about this for six months. Go watch it over here. Problem solved. And so we just. We make it like. We make it like a meme. And then it can even be, you know, you can. You'll even have people that you know are gonna engage with this, like, very stubbornly. Like, I'm gonna hold out till the end. I will literally refuse until the final day.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I will be that last person playing Halo on Xbox360.

[Linus Sebastian]

I will watch at 10 kilobits per second, you know, or whatever. Like, I think. I think that something like this would be a really good way to really ease the transition.

[Luke Lafreniere]

One oddly colored pixel, the only thing coming through.

[Dan]

Deep fried audio.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah, we could have. We could. We could go until we actually resemble. Someone pointed out the pixelated Linus and Luke. Hold on. I'm trying to find the image.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Like, old glitchy ones.

[Linus Sebastian]

Oh, actually, I didn't mean that. I meant the, like in the intro.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Oh, I thought you meant the, like, the ancient Wanchos that are all corrupted on YouTube.

[Linus Sebastian]

Oh, okay. Well, that's. Hold on. Where are they? Yeah, I know these guys.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah, yeah.

[Linus Sebastian]

Until we actually look more like these guys than like, these guys.

[Luke Lafreniere]

You should just AI overlay us turning us into Pixel Bros. Someone pointed out, apparently Doug. Doug has a video on how people will be stubborn in these situations or something. And like, yeah, absolutely, there's a ton of people that won't. I think it's going to be a combination of people are going to be stubborn. And also when we stop streaming on LTD ltt, I think how the algorithm works in the, like, viewers, like, you watch this thing, therefore, I will recommend it way I think a bunch of people won't even realize they're on a different channel.

[Linus Sebastian]

And watch it with the slow transition will also give the algorithm a lot of time to learn who these overlapping audiences are.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah.

[Linus Sebastian]

So I'm.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Maybe it'll be all right, maybe it won't.

[Linus Sebastian]

I kind of. Because I don't want to mess with the audio. I think we should leave the audio alone.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I think that's fair.

[Linus Sebastian]

But over time, we just degrade the video experience until finally we're down to like, Yeah, a couple of pixels, kind of barely intel, barely even able to make out what you're looking at. And we go. Hey, guys, you may have noticed over the last few months that the video quality on you on the LTT channel has been a little on the low side. This is the last WAN show here. We're moving over to the new WAN show channel. And this is actually really important because the WAN show is now officially co owned by me and Luke 50% and we have to have it on a separate channel. Intellectual property, corporate ownership, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

[Luke Lafreniere]

For the floatplane people, I believe the plan right now is that it's.

[Linus Sebastian]

It'll just be on the LMG channels.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah, yeah. I do think we wanted to talk to Sammy and get it split out into its own sub channel.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah.

[Luke Lafreniere]

But that does not mean it would be a new subscription. That would literally actually just. We should just do that anyways because it's for organizational reasons.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah. So it just looks like this. So on the side you've got Linus Tech tips and then you've got all your various sub channels. So we would just add a when show one and then we can keep it kind of simple that way.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah, exactly.

[Linus Sebastian]

Speaking of floatplane, Sammy has some floatplane announcements that he wants us to talk about. The Korean Tech Mall video was released very early on Floatplane. If you don't want to wait till Monday to see that, it is available right now. And this is. This is really how I felt when I had to go shopping. Can I find what I forgot in Korea's largest tech mall? If you guys are regular WAN show viewers, you'll know that I streamed from South Korea last week. Two weeks ago. Time's a blur. I don't.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Two weeks ago.

[Linus Sebastian]

Two weeks ago, and not last week at least. I talked about how I forgot my camera and forgot my microphone and forgot any means of setting it up in any ergonomic way. So I had to go shopping even though I was actually on vacation and I wasn't planning to make any videos. And if I'm gonna go to a tech mall in a country that I've never made a Tech mall video in before, then I guess I might as well point a selfie camera at myself. Oh, looks like. Well, looks like people are actually liking this video.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Wasn't it, Wasn't it Yvonne's idea too?

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah, yeah. She was like, well, like, you might as well just make a video because you're gonna go shopping anyway. It had a really different vibe from a lot of our content because I shot the whole thing myself. Just me and an iPhone.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Interesting.

[Linus Sebastian]

And a decent mic. Well, I didn't have a camera operator. I wasn't.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I'm realizing like literally this format of you self filming only really shows up sometimes in like maybe a scrapyard wars or something like that. Yeah, it's. It's like this is almost weird to see.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah, I know, right?

[Luke Lafreniere]

Like, this would usually be like some video you would just DM me. It's not, it's not really like. Yeah, it's not a super common Linus angle on, on, on the public video.

[Linus Sebastian]

It's a, It's a really. It's. It's kind of a fun video because I end up finding a lot of like really weird stuff.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I'm excited for this one.

[Linus Sebastian]

Like there's parts of this place that seem almost abandoned. Like the amount of just random old systems and e waste and like, like, oh, there's a lot of e waste and just vast empty hallways with just like garbage in them and stuff. It's a, it's. It's kind of a weird video.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Interesting.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah, and it's. It's kind of a weird place. Anyway, on top of that, I have more videos to release for you guys. Wow, look at that. Here's a second Dank Pods video. Second collab with Dank pods. Boom. Going public. His system got broken on his way to whale land. Because Wade apparently has never seen the classic Linus tech tips episode. How to pack your PC. What is this? Who's this guy? Who's this guy? How to pack your PC40. There it is. Okay, well, maybe we should have had a less clickbaity title. How to not smash your PC gaming rig packing and moving guide. So he should have watched that because it had a lot of tech tips that he could have used. His computer got all bashed up. It was making rattling noises when we, when I shook it to start the video. So I helped him fix it. And then, and then my Linux curse struck. So I fixed his computer in a hardware fashion and then broke it in the software by just being there.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I heard about that.

[Linus Sebastian]

I didn't do anything. I had so many witnesses. Adam witnessed it. One of our new camera guys witnessed it. Wade witnessed it. They saw me. I did nothing. I broke his bazite. And I'm sorry, but I didn't do anything. I was just present. Yeah. Anyway, that's. That's a pretty fun video. It's a pretty good one. We also have extras from that video. Finally, we made a, an alternatives to Discord Video, giving you guys some, some ideas for other software that you can use now that they've got their, their, their ID stuff that they're working on. I'M gonna go ahead and make that live now as well. Lots of. Lots of early access right now on float playing these all obviously come to YouTube.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Oh, that's early access too.

[Linus Sebastian]

At some point.

[Luke Lafreniere]

We're. We're a little late on that.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah. But it's. It's a good video, actually. I watched it today. Cool. Yeah, it's. It's solid. I'm. I'm actually really. It was one that was done when I wasn't here. What?

[Luke Lafreniere]

I just. Nick from the lab pointed out the other day that he. He really likes Wendell's thumbnails and. Oh, man, there was a. There was another one recently. This one.

[Linus Sebastian]

That's what you're. That's what your thumbnails look like when you actually don't give any. How your video performs. And you are just doing it for the ls. Just for the love of the game, man. I love it. I love it. I respect it so much.

[Luke Lafreniere]

That's so, so based.

[Linus Sebastian]

What a guy.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Just. Cube. Wendell. Oh, man.

[Linus Sebastian]

All right. Thank you for that. I can't tell what's going on right now. Did I release everything that I was supposed to release? I think so. I have the Wade video. The. Sorry, I'm like, doing actual work right now, so I'm confused. Korean Tech Mall video. I released that one. The extras in the Discord. Did I get them all? Yes. Okay. I got them all. Yep. I think I'm good.

[Luke Lafreniere]

So.

[Linus Sebastian]

Awesome.

[Luke Lafreniere]

So three early access videos now available at lmg, gg, fpwan.

[Linus Sebastian]

Oh, do we have our own vanity URL?

[Luke Lafreniere]

I guess.

[Linus Sebastian]

I guess this is part of, like, making sure that you get your commissions, Mr. 50% owner. Yeah, no, that's totally true. It's mostly only. Only relevant if something fundamentally changes.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah.

[Linus Sebastian]

But we do have to lay the groundwork now. It's really important to do it now.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah.

[Linus Sebastian]

All right. You know what else is really important to do now is talk about how the supreme court in the US has ruled that ISPs Internet service providers are not liable for user piracy on their networks. A lawsuit between record labels and USISP Cox Communications over an alleged failure to deter repeat piracy received a Supreme Court ruling in Cox's favor. I personally am also in favor of Cox. Go Cox.

[Luke Lafreniere]

They're a really, really big company.

[Linus Sebastian]

Okay, maybe. Well, in this case. In this specific case, I remember actually, I actually remember talking about this on WAN show like, half a decade ago. Like, this has been. This has been gumming up the works for a long time. Oh, here it is right in the notes the case began in 2018. Yeah, when record labels, led by Sony and Warner, said that Cox received tens of thousands of infringement notices identifying repeat violators, but then failed to meaningfully suspend or terminate those accounts.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Which is weird because usually they, usually they send out just such a surge

[Linus Sebastian]

of Cox argued that previous rulings against it would force ISPs to act as copyright police, which actually kind of a fair Point. A 2019 jury in Virginia had found Cox liable and awarded a billion dollars in damages. A billion dollars in damages to my Cox. Not to my Cox. No, I won't stand for it. The fourth Circuit Court of Appeals threw out the damages and part of the liability and ordered a new trial to determine damages. Cox then asked the Supreme Court to intervene. Yeah, it's hard to really be on the side of big ISPs.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I'm also wondering if this could be a bad thing, because would this, could this shift attention to users?

[Linus Sebastian]

Possibly. But then if the ISPs are not liable, then you can guarantee that they're not gonna like, do the work, care and cooperate any more than they like, absolutely have to. Because at the end of the day, you don't want to be the ISP that customers start talking about how you get people like, sued for piracy. And the whole going after end users thing proved to be so unpopular back in the early 2000s that the record labels gave up. Right? Yeah. Like there, there are. Yeah, there are artists who even still today wear that. That cone of shame for, for going after individuals downloading their songs. Like, I just, I don't. I don't see it happening. Then again, hey, the world keeps finding new ways to be even more dystopian. So no guarantees, but this does seem like overall for user PI. Excuse me, Privacy A plus. And if you happen to be a pirate, then it also seems like a plus for that as well. Here's a downer. Qualcomm shut the door on Snapdragon X DSP headers open Sourcing and Linux support Hopes seem to be fading. Qualcomm has closed a GitHub issue requesting open source DSP headers for Snapdragon X chips with a blunt no plans for that as of now. Linux can still boot on Snapdragon X laptops, but without full DSP headers, full upstream support for things like audio sensors and NPU offloading remain out of reach.

[Luke Lafreniere]

This is interesting. Move not in with the current vibe.

[Linus Sebastian]

Bold move. Yeah. This may help explain why Tuxedo cancelled its Snapdragon X1 Elite Linux laptop after 18 months of development and Canonical still relies on patched packages in a Qualcomm specific work in progress kernel.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I also find it interesting because at their summit that they had, which myself and Nick and Lucas attended, I would genuinely say the most prevalent topic of question that was at like the panel and when we're walking around talking to people and stuff was based around Linux. There was a lot of people in the audience that were very Linux pilled I think probably and I think Qualcomm recognized this. A higher percentage than probably users to be honest.

[Linus Sebastian]

Well yeah, because when you're a brand new hardware with, you know, brand new, let's face it, especially in the earlier days of Windows on arm it was very much, it was a really similar set of trade offs as running on Linux. Some of your software wouldn't work. You'd have to be willing to deal with like kind of hacky workarounds. There were benefits, the battery life game changing at the time. That was before intel had some really competitive mobile offerings in terms of battery life and AMD too for that matter. But so it's. So it seems to me that it kind of makes sense that you have a kind of similar user archetype, someone who is willing to put up with some pain in order to try something new and, or get some benefit that is very meaningful to them. And they publicly promised continued Linux upstreaming work back in 2024. And so I'm looking at this going like guys, you're already niche, you already seem to be having a hard time making inroads and I understand why the temptation would be to see that fact that your volumes are pretty low and kind of circle the wagons, you know, focus on the biggest piece of the pie, the biggest prize. Hear me out. Go completely the opposite direction.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I think so.

[Linus Sebastian]

Be the king, I think so of how well you support open source platforms and Linux.

[Luke Lafreniere]

You will win a really hardcore, very vocal in a good way for you audience if you are able to accomplish that.

[Linus Sebastian]

And they tend to be evangelists, they tend to be the kinds of people who, who will wait until something is if we're being real, not really good enough for mainstream and then they'll be like it's so good, it's great, everyone should try it. And it's way better to have those guys on your side right now than to just alienate them because they're also

[Luke Lafreniere]

really loud about that, which is not

[Linus Sebastian]

good for you, not offer anything interesting to the mainstream normies. Right now you're doing neither. And I don't Think this is gonna work out great? Because I could see, like, I could see Qualcomm. They have pretty compelling gaming performance, for instance. At least the new generation is. Are they out? Are they rumored? I can't remember. Whatever. But their GPUs are pretty solid, and I could see Qualcomm being a legitimate connection and things like handheld Windows gaming machines. Sure, why not?

[Luke Lafreniere]

Definitely why not? I think, honestly, with some of their mini PCs, they were showing off and stuff Totally makes sense.

[Linus Sebastian]

But now you're going up against the Steam deck. If I'm someone who's designing a piece of handheld hardware today, would I want to be able to support all the various operating systems that can run on it? Would I want to be able to run steamos? Would I want to be able to run Bazzite? Would I want to be able to run. What's the. The Windows game optimized mode called we worked on with the Xbox team, Whatever that. That thing. I'd want to be able to run all of them. I think shutting a door right now feels like completely failing to read the room. Yeah, which makes sense, because how can you read a room when the door into it is closed?

[Luke Lafreniere]

My God.

[Linus Sebastian]

You don't have to call me that on camera. Oh my. Gross. I love teasing him.

[Luke Lafreniere]

All right, next topic.

[Linus Sebastian]

Oh, this is great. EU Consumer protections strike again. You want to do this one?

[Luke Lafreniere]

Sure. This follows the unrelated news that Nintendo is cutting Switch 2 production by.

[Linus Sebastian]

I see you pressing that button, Dan. Oh, was it you? It was Dan.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I don't even know what button.

[Linus Sebastian]

He matched the narcissist button like 25 times.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah. So Nintendo's cutting Switch to production by 33% after a poor performance during the holiday season.

[Linus Sebastian]

Okay, that's bad news.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Approximately a cut of 2 million units this year.

[Linus Sebastian]

Wow.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Crazy.

[Linus Sebastian]

Wait, did you give the good news yet?

[Luke Lafreniere]

No one predicted this at all. Hmm, interesting.

[Linus Sebastian]

If only there was more than two games for it.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Wow. The good news for it.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah, it's in the title.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Oh, I thought you read the whole title.

[Linus Sebastian]

No, I didn't.

[Luke Lafreniere]

EU consumer production strike again. A new Switch 2 revision with a removable battery. That's cool. To repeatedly reportedly release there. Oh, in the eu.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah.

[Luke Lafreniere]

And then maybe potentially the US and North America, maybe.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yes. I mean, even if it didn't, I would imagine people would import them. The gray market for Switch 2s with the removable battery would be like stonks.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Big time.

[Linus Sebastian]

That'd be sick. And why not? Why shouldn't it have a removable battery? That sounds Great. I mean, it's not. It's not a phone. Right. I can actually really understand it with a phone. This tightly integrated device, it literally has to fit in my pocket. I have to be able to take it into the swimming pool and take, you know, pictures of, you know, my kids learning to swim or whatever it is that I'm doing with my stupid phone. But something like a game console, I don't need it to be 0.3 millimeters thinner. I think it's probably fine for it to just have a removable battery. This is so cool.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah, I think people don't care at all.

[Linus Sebastian]

Freaking love it.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I. The Switch 2 is boring. I think I'm going to sell mine. Ooh, it's boring.

[Linus Sebastian]

I played some Mario Kart world with my son on the plane on a recent trip. Was good. We played for a bit.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Sorry, I hate that game.

[Linus Sebastian]

It's. It's. It's really sweaty.

[Luke Lafreniere]

The best Mario experience.

[Linus Sebastian]

No way to win whatsoever if you. There's no way to even be remotely competitive if you don't sweat super hard, which I find pretty, like, not fun.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Mario Kart game, bruh.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah.

[Luke Lafreniere]

What are we doing?

[Linus Sebastian]

Like, if you want to play, why

[Luke Lafreniere]

is there, like, under map mechanics?

[Linus Sebastian]

If you want to play a settle corsa, like, play that, you know, like, can Mario Kart be Mario Kart? And I understand that some people want to play Mario Picard super sweaty, and I get that you can, though, but you can play super sweaty without literally driving on a completely different track that the other players don't know are there because they didn't do hours of research.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah. Like Mario Kart 8 and Deluxe and whatever else, like the variants of it. You could absolutely be super sweaty, but the gap between you and everybody else is not going to be anywhere near as enormous as Mario Kart world. And in my opinion, the mechanics are way more fun. Decently, heavily incentivizing, drifting more than world does. Pretty in line with eight, in my opinion, is a great thing for the game because everyone can drift. It's very simple. But getting it so that, like, the lines are really perfect and stuff is a skill guide. And it's really hard and it's rewarding, but it's not, like, game breakingly rewarding.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah, like, I just, like, there was one that I was in first and my son was in, like, sixth, and he just, like, took a shortcut I didn't know about and won. And it's like. Like, I'm not. I'm not, like, mad about it because it's just Mario Kart. Yeah, but that's also the. That's also the other thing, though, is, like, it's just Mario Kart. Why do we need to do that? Why do we need to have.

[Luke Lafreniere]

There's always been shortcuts to a certain degree.

[Linus Sebastian]

They were small.

[Luke Lafreniere]

They're usually very small.

[Linus Sebastian]

They were small, and. And they could gain a position, and they could be very difficult to execute,

[Luke Lafreniere]

often in a really brutal way.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yes.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Where you would only really take it if you kind of needed to.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And you'd honestly be better off with a mushroom in a lot of cases. Or the shortcuts are kind of everywhere, and you can just, you know, like, blast across a corner with a mushroom instead of, you know, going through the, like, going over grass.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Pretty obvious.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah, maybe.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Maybe you do it wrong on, like, the first lap. But then, you know, from then on

[Linus Sebastian]

stuff where the track just, like, splits into two and half of the AIs are going left and half of them are going right, and you just, like, don't know which way you're supposed to go. It's just. That's not a race anymore. That's maze path finding. And I understand a lot of people are having a lot of fun with Mario Kart World, but if the Switch sales anything to go by, a lot of people also just, like, kind of aren't. Yeah, Bonanza supposed to be really good. I haven't played it.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I feel like I'll probably, like, play that and then sell it.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah, I could see that. I could see that.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I mean, Emma's super, super into Donkey Kong, so I bought Bonanza for, like, her to play on the Switch. And then the house stuff happened. So neither of us have played it nice, but we'll probably play through that and then. Yeah, there's nothing else pulling me towards the Switch to. That Feels worth it for the device cost, if that makes sense.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah. We've got some pretty good news about graphene os, but let's get through the rest of our sponsors real quick here. First, the show is brought to you by Tello. Phone plans are get. Oh, my God. Really? Phone plans are getting insanely expensive, especially with carriers trying to convince you that you need the latest Igalaxy Series X Pro. Max, whatever. But there are phone plans, like, with our sponsor Tello, that have more to offer. They have unlimited 5G plans on America's largest network for up to. Yes, that's right. Up to $25. They even let you build your own plan if you don't need everything that comes with that $25 option. It's easy to port over your current phone, so there's no long term contract locking you in for two or more years. Plus every plan comes with extra goodies like free hotspotting, international calling, wi fi calling, and more. So don't wait. Check out Tello's unlimited plans in the description or by grabbing this QR code. The show is also brought to you by Proton. When you get a letter sent to your house, it is against the law for other people to snoop around in your mailbox because that is your business. Well, our sponsor, ProtonMail believes that this fundamental. Sorry, I mean, it just seems common sense, right? ProtonMail, this fundamental right all also extends to your email inbox.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Wow.

[Linus Sebastian]

Well, many major email providers don't agree and they will track your inbox in order to figure out the best way to serve you more ads. That would be kind of like if your postman was looking at your letters to figure out if he should also leave an avon catalog. But ProtonMail doesn't track you, it doesn't feed you ads in your inbox, and it actually can help block other trackers. Proton believes that all them of of us were born private and we should do what we can to keep it that way. They even make it simple to switch from your current email service to theirs so you don't lose any important business threads that you have going. So protect your digital privacy today by checking out ProtonMail using our link down below. All right. Want the good news?

[Luke Lafreniere]

You know they have a password manager too.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah, they got lots of stuff.

[Luke Lafreniere]

This is, this is, we are, we are no longer in the sponsor segment. But someone in the chat earlier today recommended that I check out Proton's platform as a replacement for like Google Workspace, Microsoft and stuff. And I didn't actually realize how much stuff they had. They have vpn, password manager, cloud storage, docs, sheets, calendar, authenticator. I don't know what Wallet does, but. Wallet.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah, they got lots of stuff new.

[Dan]

It never came up on my evaluation.

[Linus Sebastian]

No, it's not new, but it's been.

[Dan]

They don't have a chat.

[Linus Sebastian]

It's been expanding very aggressively.

[Dan]

Make a chat.

[Luke Lafreniere]

If that makes us. We can use Slack, I think it'd be really happy.

[Linus Sebastian]

I don't want to pay for Slack.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Slack is a little bit less expensive than I thought.

[Linus Sebastian]

I don't want a little bit less expensive. We're like free. Well, no, I don't want free either.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I mean, there are potentially free options. We've been looking Into.

[Linus Sebastian]

Oh really?

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah, there's, there's like what you pay for. There is. Yeah.

[Dan]

And we have a really weird team structure.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Self host Mattermost. Mattermost has been getting really weird. You should look into that.

[Linus Sebastian]

We have such a weird team structure. Like every piece of software for a 100 person company we do so much different stuff. It's crazy. Like there are companies our size whose entire thing is they just like make drill bits and everyone just is moving in one direction like making drill bits. Like I, we have apparel and we have like like engineered goods and we have video platform and we have flippin an events business and just the production company and just procurement is makes lab.

[Dan]

So weird. Like none of the film production software includes an entire procurement chain.

[Linus Sebastian]

Right. Because why would you have to procure something in order to make your video? Well because for us unless we have the thing, we can't make a video about it.

[Dan]

And we have to have sometimes 40 things for one video of the.

[Linus Sebastian]

You know like an AMD ultimate tech upgrade.

[Dan]

Yeah. Even more. And then we release like hundreds of videos a quarter which also no one does.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah.

[Dan]

So ironically teams is like actually set up really well for us because we have all of the different channels and things.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah, you can. No. And we can do that in lots of platforms.

[Dan]

Yeah, but on Slack we can't dictate the order.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah but you can give people packages and stuff like that. Like there's ways to make it better. I do agree that that sucks. You can't build someone's hierarchy for them.

[Dan]

That's also like do we need that?

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah.

[Dan]

Can we just figure out something else? It's never been a problem to save $800 billion.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Well it wouldn't save money if we went to Slack compared to teams.

[Dan]

Oh no. I mean like something self hosted or

[Luke Lafreniere]

like if Discord had better user management we could use Discord. But it's like kind of me. Kind of me.

[Linus Sebastian]

Sorry. Particular colleague just sent a video of one of their kids that their kid asked them to send to me and it's of them driving around in you know those, those like really rugged cardboard boxes that you can get for free at Costco.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah.

[Linus Sebastian]

They're like sitting in it like a car and they've like made a little dashboard and they're like dry scooting around on it on the floor and he's like kicking the thing so that it like goes for a little bit. And I was just like why do we buy them expensive toys? It's great. I love to see kids using imagination man it's refreshing. My eldest daughter is getting into this. I forget what it's called, but it's this animation platform on the iPad that you draw every frame. And she made this little. She's made a couple little short things. One of them is cats catching mice. And then at the end of it, her kind of punchline is she has a shot of just like a pile of dead rats and mice, and the mice go on to. I don't know. She's an interesting child. I mean, every child's an interesting child. She's really into cats. And then that's why she chose cat as her stage name. Like, she's just like, she's very into cats. Like, we were. We were in Korea recently. We went all the way around the world. And what does she want to do? She wants to go to a cat cafe. Literally. We have cat at home.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Many. We have many cat at home.

[Linus Sebastian]

Anyway, she made another one that was like. Like this dragon thing that like goes and it does a thing and I don't know, it's. It's. It's pretty cool. And as far as I'm concerned, we have car votes in our screen time rules for if you are making something.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Sure.

[Linus Sebastian]

So if you are designing something for 3D printing, that doesn't count. If you are doing an animation or you're like making a stop motion thing with your. With your phone or whatever, that doesn't count. And it's really, it's really cool. Google Family Link actually has some, some wonderful tools for carving out particular apps, particular times so that you can say, okay, yeah, you get like 45 minutes of general use. This particular app is limited to like 15 minutes. And these apps you can use anytime you want, as much as you want. Really awesome. So something like, I have Kindle Unlimited, so they're allowed to read as much as they want on the Kindle. I don't care. I don't care if they're looking at a screen or at a paper page at that age. All I care about is their reading. So you can fine tune that. It's pretty cool.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Linus Sebastian]

Graphene os.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah.

[Linus Sebastian]

Has flatly refused to comply with emerging laws requiring operating systems to collect age data at setup. They have said they will never require personal information, ID or an account base. In their Twitter statement, they said, if graphene OS devices can't be sold in a region due to their regulations, so be it based. The statement was prompted by Brazil's digital ECA law taking effect March 17 with carries fines of up to $9.5 million per violation. California's similar law takes effect January 2027. This stance creates a real problem for Grapheneos's new Motorola partnership, which was announced at Mobile World Congress. A hardware vendor selling devices globally would have to comply with local laws in every market it ships to, meaning that Motorola may have to restrict sales of GrapheneOS phones geographically.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Linus comment I hadn't seen that until now. Based I genuinely didn't read that.

[Linus Sebastian]

I don't think we need to get further into like, what are these laws? Are they supposedly about protecting kids? What are they actually for collecting data? Let's move on to something that's more exciting.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Maybe you'll have to go onto a road trip outside of California to buy your phone.

[Linus Sebastian]

Like Samsung saying that airdrop support is enabled by default. After all, on Galaxy phones, they're rolling it out to Galaxy S26 devices via a One UI 8.5 update, letting users share files directly with iPhones, iPads, and Macs through Quick Share. No third party apps needed. The feature is enabled by default through Samsung's, though Samsung's own promotional video initially showed it as off, causing some confusion before the company clarified. Google figured out how to make this work without Apple's involvement when it launched on Pixel 10 last year, and Samsung is now the second Android OEM to get it. With no word yet on when other Galaxy devices will follow, our discussion question is now that airdrop works both ways, and green message bubbles are no longer the social albatross that they once were, are there any major friction points that will remain? I'd say FaceTime would be a big one.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Status Status yeah, I think people still think you're weird.

[Linus Sebastian]

That's so funky. Because, like, I don't want this to come across the wrong way because I don't care. But like, my Android costs more than your iPhone. Why do you think your iPhone is a status symbol? Okay, I'm just trying to.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I don't get it.

[Linus Sebastian]

I'm just trying to understand it.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I have an old crappy phone at this point. I don't care. I never cared.

[Linus Sebastian]

All right?

[Luke Lafreniere]

I think it's such a silly thing. I mean, I think caring about like, oh, they have an old car, therefore poor, therefore bad is stupid, let alone phones. Like, I think the whole thing is just dumb. So I'm the wrong person to consult on this. I will never understand. Oh, you didn't waste your money on like some device that's just gonna basically be useless in like three to five years, huh? Okay, cool. All right.

[Linus Sebastian]

My car is 60 this year. Says gas racing and floatplane chat.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Sick.

[Linus Sebastian]

That's pretty cool.

[Luke Lafreniere]

There's definitely a. There's definitely a. You know this. Yeah.

[Linus Sebastian]

They become expensive again. Yeah. No one in floatplane chat gets it or cares.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah. Which, I mean, makes sense, but iPhone users plot us.

[Linus Sebastian]

Says most people I know with nicer cars are broke. Af.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah. This is kind of my point. Yeah.

[Linus Sebastian]

I, I, I gotta say, I do find, like, the car situation a little confusing. Like, I. People in general seem to spend a lot more of their income on their car than I ever have.

[Luke Lafreniere]

It's so weird. Like, I don't get it at all.

[Linus Sebastian]

You know how long I drove the Super Civic?

[Luke Lafreniere]

Oh, yeah.

[Linus Sebastian]

And then you know how long I drove the Volt.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah.

[Linus Sebastian]

You literally know the finances of the company.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I've driven all of your cars.

[Linus Sebastian]

Really?

[Luke Lafreniere]

I never put that together until you just listed it that out. But did you own a car before the Super Civic you could hand me?

[Linus Sebastian]

I did, Yeah. I had a Volkswagen Jetta.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Never mind.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah.

[Luke Lafreniere]

You never drove that one because you had a. You also had a Golf.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah, yeah. That was Yvonne's before I brought the minivan.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah.

[Linus Sebastian]

Have you ever driven our minivan?

[Luke Lafreniere]

I. Okay. No.

[Linus Sebastian]

Okay. He missed the minivan.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I did drive the Golf.

[Linus Sebastian]

I think you're still over 50%.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah.

[Linus Sebastian]

But you've never ridden my bike.

[Luke Lafreniere]

No.

[Linus Sebastian]

At least not once. I'll let you ride if you want, though.

[Luke Lafreniere]

The weight balance of that would be kind of crazy.

[Linus Sebastian]

That'd be kind of crazy because you're up higher too.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah. I did ride on the back of a moped with Dennis in Taipei.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah. That was scary.

[Luke Lafreniere]

That was a little nuts.

[Linus Sebastian]

That was pretty scary.

[Luke Lafreniere]

That was a little wild. So Luke's lived in all of Linus's houses too.

[Linus Sebastian]

Oh, yeah, that. No, no, not in the current one. Although I did offer, while you had your issues recently, to let you come live with us, and he refused. He wouldn't. He didn't want that Pokemon. I stayed at my parents, so I'd be down here, you'd be up here.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I mean, I'd give it a shot.

[Linus Sebastian]

Even with Yvonne or my son when he was quite a bit younger. I think he was probably about 10 when. When I was riding with him on the back. Weigh a lot less than you. I don't know if I could balance that bike with you on it.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah, you might have to.3 exit.

[Linus Sebastian]

You'd be up so high and your legs are not really that long that you would not be able to put your foot down.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yep.

[Linus Sebastian]

Until we were quite, quite horizontal. And also this is really hot if it was operating. So that could be really dangerous.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Is there, is there foot placements?

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah, the pegs are.

[Luke Lafreniere]

It's a little too pixely, but yeah, I can imagine.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah, yeah. So you put these down and then you're pegging.

[Luke Lafreniere]

It would look hilarious.

[Linus Sebastian]

Oh, it would look so ridiculous. You would look like, you'd look like Donkey Kong in market. Mario Kart on my bike. Like sitting on the back of it like that. Yeah, ridiculous.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah. Next topic.

[Linus Sebastian]

TCL has been banned from calling some of its TVs QLED due to a lack of dots, that is to say a lack of cadmium and indium in the optical sheets for their TVs. They also found this. So this is a Munich court. They also found that this meant the TVs did not have the color performance that is normally associated with Quantum.or QLED technology. This ruling comes as a result of a lawsuit filed by Samsung where they commissioned testing of TCL displays and accused them of misleading consumers in their marketing. TCL and Hisense are also facing class action lawsuits in the US over the marketing of QLED TVs. Yeah, I would. I actually support Samsung's efforts here and I had a recent experience with a TV manufacturer where they talked to me and explained and showed some of the work that they do not to reverse engineer their competitors products, but to evaluate their competitors products so the kinds of breakdowns that they'll do on it to really understand the process performance of their competitors products so they know what they're up against. And we'll have a video on this pretty soon. But there were some shocking revelations that unless you have the engineering expertise to literally disassemble the TV and watch it operate and get scopes on it and like really know what it's doing, you would never know. And there's much like you see in phone benchmarking or much like we've seen over the years in phone benchmarking, there's a lot of cheating that can be done.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Oh yeah.

[Linus Sebastian]

When TVs are detecting particular test patterns or scenes. And it's getting harder and harder to not only stop that cheating but even notice it because it's a feature, not a bug, that every TV these days has an AI processor in it that is analyzing everything on the screen. So they really do know everything they're displaying. And they can tune the image and they can tune the behavior of the TV accordingly. Samsung actually has gotten caught doing things like that, like boosting their brightness during test patterns. If I recall correctly, that was on what the S95B. Let me know in chat if anyone remembers. I'm pretty sure that was a thing, but I don't want to say that and be wrong. Come on, anyone? Was that Samsung? We could talk about this. This cute little 14 year old ThinkPad. This was fun. That got upgraded for 25 bucks. No one. No one. Still no one.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah. A YouTuber named Onion Boots set out to make a near perfect thinkpad. Since the peeling Energy star sticker was just enough to justify it never becoming a display piece. The near perfect ThinkPads general specs are a 3rd gen Intel Core i5 2230M or an i7 3520M? Isn't this a specific model?

[Linus Sebastian]

I don't know.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Okay, 16 gigs of DDR3 and a 12 and a half inch LED backlit TN panel at 1366 by 768 res.

[Linus Sebastian]

That display is a. Yikes.

[Luke Lafreniere]

The display is kind of the biggest problem here. It's a decent amount of memory actually. Onion Boots claims that it's not a full HD mod, but rather a simple swap to an IPS LG panel. It's from the same year and has the same resolution. A little unfortunate, but the jump from TN to IPS is pretty sweet. Uniboo simply didn't feel comfortable with soldering. So it's the.

[Linus Sebastian]

It's only 25 bucks anyway, I just thought it was cool. Hey, don't forget pretty legit older laptops. Sometimes you can improve your display. Throw an SSD in it. They can be very usable, especially with something like, I don't know, Linux Mint. My discussion question here though is actually kind of unrelated. Can we stop doing this? Tom's hardware. Oh yeah, Bro has a name. Bro has a channel name. Okay, yeah, it's here and you do eventually get into it. One intrepid YouTuber. Uh huh huh. Okay, where, where, where do we get the YouTuber onion boots? Like how far below the fold are we here? How would you like it if instead of saying the article that brought this to my attention was Tom's hardware, I said traditional written media site reports that a YouTuber has upgraded their 14 year old ThinkPad. Can we not? We all have names. Thank you for coming to my TED Talk.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Oh, I've watched Onion Boots before. I was gonna say I feel like I recognize this channel but yeah, there one video that went freaking crazy.

[Linus Sebastian]

Maybe it would be pretty good for their channel if everyone who reported on the cool work that they're doing maybe named them in the headline. That would be pretty cool.

[Luke Lafreniere]

It is a super cool video though. Like if, if you, if you think the laptop video is like neat but isn't going to draw you in. Onion Boots has a video called a web Revival. The Internet didn't die, you're just not on it. And this video is awesome. It's really cool. Sick. So maybe check it out. It talks about like websites like this, that is his that are up right now which like feel like older website. You can see the links section. It talks about how a lot of these older style websites link to each other. And it's like a cool old surfing the web style feeling that you can find on the Internet if you, if you go to these different sites. So check that video. It's cool. He references a bunch of different ones that you could go check out and it's. Yeah, it's actually just genuinely awesome video play.

[Linus Sebastian]

Can you play Minesweeper in the background of that site? Is that what I'm. Is that what I'm looking at here? Hold on, hold on just a gosh darn minute here.

[Dan]

Oh my God.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Oh,

[Linus Sebastian]

are you kidding me right now?

[Luke Lafreniere]

So I think it's not like I'm doing it as well and I'm clearly not playing like with you. So it's, it's local. But yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Linus Sebastian]

I mean that's Minesweeper. That's, that's, that's a, that's a Minesweeper. If I've ever seen one.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Pet

[Linus Sebastian]

something I have.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Always name your egg. Egg hatching in 21 seconds. This feels very neopets. Yeah, there's a bunch of very, very cool, very cool video and it links to other people's sites.

[Linus Sebastian]

Oh whoops. Oh crap. I clicked the wrong side of my trackpad. Don't play mine. Don't play Minesweeper with a trackpad.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah. Anyways. Cool.

[Linus Sebastian]

Valve has finally detailed Steam machines verified program at GDC 2026. Valve confirms that games need to stable 1080p 30fps in order to earn the Steam Machine Verified badge. So the same performance bar as Steam Deck Verified just at a higher resolution. Any game that is already deck verified automatically qualifies and the Steam Machine is confirmed to have six times the performance of the deck. This 30 FPS floor is just the minimum for the badge. Valve has previously said that most Steam titles can hit 4K 60fps on the hardware as long as you enable FSR upscaling our discussion question. Oh, it's an interesting one. Actually, Sony and Microsoft tell you exactly what their consoles can do at launch. I mean, sort of. Many games do have a performance or quality toggle now, but our discussion question goes on to ask is Valves? Ah, it depends on the game approach. Good enough for people who want the simplicity of just plugging something into their TV and pressing play.

[Luke Lafreniere]

So don't know that Sony and Microsoft's ones are always necessarily fully true.

[Linus Sebastian]

No, but they definitely simplified the message.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah.

[Linus Sebastian]

And you mostly understand what you're getting. I mean, Sony had that whole debacle where they had 8k all over the packaging for the PS5 and then just kind of quietly removed.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Seems like it wasn't a problem. I understand the argument and I think it's valid. I think the audience for Steam stuff is a little bit different.

[Linus Sebastian]

I think so too.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I also think that the way that they're positioning this by saying like, pretty much everything's going to be fine, I think will kind of whisk that away a little bit. And I suspect there'll be an understanding that like at launch and Xbox is going to play a certain amount of games and at launch the Steam machine is going to play damn near freaking everything. And you're going to have to understand that there's going to be some scale there.

[Linus Sebastian]

I'm going to come out and say most people don't care.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah.

[Linus Sebastian]

And like. But really actually don't care. And the people who do probably know better than to buy a Steam machine and expect to run at, you know, 4K120 FPS.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Okay. So you can run Star Citizen on Linux. So if you can play games like

[Linus Sebastian]

that, I mean, according to AI, you did the thing I found myself doing sometimes.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I saw this.

[Linus Sebastian]

Okay, all right. Okay, good.

[Luke Lafreniere]

But checking. Yeah.

[Linus Sebastian]

Sometimes I do the thing, Luke.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I try to resist.

[Linus Sebastian]

I try to do.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I saw that. I saw that Reddit thread where it says I run stars. Is it on my Linux box? I use arch, by the way. I have no issues whatsoever. I saw that. You can see the. I still didn't click through.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yep.

[Luke Lafreniere]

But I saw this.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yep.

[Luke Lafreniere]

But I, Yeah, I try. I try to resist.

[Linus Sebastian]

Reddit wants your click. Make sure to support.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I did click on it.

[Linus Sebastian]

Small up and coming platforms like Reddit need your help.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I was like. I say, yeah, but if, like, you know, if you're able to run games like that, like, damn. How are they supposed to verify stuff?

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah. What is. What does Run Star Citizen mean?

[Luke Lafreniere]

So like run stars, whatever. I think their explanation is pretty good. I. I totally understand the discussion question. I think it's a fair thing to point out it isn't as clear and easy as the console ones, but I kind of prefer this because it feels a lot more legit and I hope that people read it properly.

[Linus Sebastian]

Our last big topic here Anthropic Claude can now I know I'm sticking with my pronunciation Cloud.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Oh I see.

[Linus Sebastian]

Can now control your computer. Anthropic has launched a research preview of computer use for Cloud Pro and Mac subscribers on macOS, letting Cloud open apps, navigate browsers, fill spreadsheets and handle multi step tasks on your computer. It pairs with Dispatch, a new mobile tool that lets you assign tasks to Cloud from your phone and have it execute them on your desktop. Anthropic warns the feature is early, can still make mistakes, and they advise against giving it access to sensitive data for now. They also say Cloud will always ask permission before accessing new apps. Linus Comment this is yeah, when I posted the news in the news feed. What could go wrong? Even Microsoft has been restrained enough to not just let Copilot do stuff on your computer, which I have talked about

[Luke Lafreniere]

sort of there was a timer on

[Linus Sebastian]

that defeats the purpose of even like having an AI assistant on my computer. If it can't do anything, then what's the point of it? But also that's totally fine. Well it looks like Anthropic has kind of gone oh yeah, what is the point of an AI assistant on your computer if it can't just like completely do stuff for you? And now we get this. This was the wrong answer, but I guess we have it now. Now what?

[Luke Lafreniere]

So I was just reading a very confusing comment. I don't know. There's been multiple things have been able to do this already. I think by adding it to Claude Pro and Max you're you're bringing it to more mainstream people, which is going to be fricking spicy. I do think it's really interesting that the thing that Microsoft was pushing is going to happen on Mac from someone else before it will happen on Windows with with Copilot.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah, it's pretty funny.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Just Windows doing Microsoft doing current era Microsoft things I guess. Yeah interesting kits.

[Linus Sebastian]

Lane Chat says my AI assistant cannot stop ordering candles. Help.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I had, I had somebody invite their AI assistant to a Discord call that we were in the other day and prompted it with voice in the Discord call and then told it to leave the Discord call and it disconnected. It's a weird world. People living on the edge are doing some crazy stuff right now. It's yeah it's interesting. I was looking into like, I really want to have a local setup going and I was looking into building one and just ram, Holy God.

[Dan]

You can borrow mine.

[Linus Sebastian]

It's like the experience of setting it up. He wants to. He doesn't actually want to use it. I feel called out as well. Like, that's the whole thing. That's like my whole life. That's why we, like, that's why we get each other. Because I'm the kind of person who loves building gaming PCs but doesn't actually game that much, you know. All right, I see you.

[Dan]

Yeah, I didn't know Luke felt like that too.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I do want to use it, but I'm not going to end up using it as much. I'm not going to use it enough to like justify it.

[Linus Sebastian]

Hey, have you tried your big Screen beyond yet?

[Luke Lafreniere]

No.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Have you? But I looked into setting it up because the. The room that. Okay, so the computers are in a different room now. So where the base stations were set up is not where the computers are anymore. So I'm trying to figure out how to deal with that.

[Linus Sebastian]

He's gonna do it eventually.

[Luke Lafreniere]

The new. Yeah, yeah, he's gonna do the new room that the computers are set up in. There is less space.

[Linus Sebastian]

He's gonna do it.

[Luke Lafreniere]

So I've been trying to figure out basically, is it worth it to get another pair of base stations basically and have base stations in there in the smaller room that I can use like at my desk with my computer.

[Linus Sebastian]

Base stations. More like based stations. What a solution. I love it.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Or should I just put them up where they were and then find some way to tether all the way into the other room?

[Linus Sebastian]

Long range tether. Risky.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah. There's a way to do have a separate box in that other room. Yeah, that sucks. Yeah, that's ram expensive.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Just like as far as I can tell everyone else, I'd really rather not build a computer right now. So it's like, okay. But yeah, the amount of available space in the room that my computer's in now is kind of rough. So it's like. Okay. And another annoying thing, we asked them like not to seal over the holes for the screws for the. Where the base stations were and they left one of them just fine. But they totally like sealed over the other one.

[Linus Sebastian]

So now you have to put a hole in your wall.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah, two of them.

[Linus Sebastian]

Two holes.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I think it's two. Pretty sure it's two.

[Linus Sebastian]

Two holes. Do they make a half though?

[Luke Lafreniere]

Super long cable. That's what we were just saying.

[Linus Sebastian]

Bernardo Baruch. I'm fine. This is not an injection site for my horrible addiction. I just.

[Luke Lafreniere]

That would be a. Yeah, I know. Brutal spot. Oh my God.

[Linus Sebastian]

I dived for an epic badminton return and it was amazing. And I.

[Luke Lafreniere]

There you go.

[Linus Sebastian]

I slid on my elbow. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It was awesome.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Don't do it at all. But especially not there.

[Dan]

I mean, you might not do it again.

[Linus Sebastian]

Not medical advice.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah, that's true.

[Linus Sebastian]

All right, let's jump. Let's jump into After Dark. Are we at After Dark time?

[Luke Lafreniere]

I think so.

[Linus Sebastian]

Let's do this thing.

[Luke Lafreniere]

See, it's the common curse. You said it was going to be such an incredibly long show and now we're at After Dark before we were last time. That's how it works.

[Linus Sebastian]

Oh yeah. How'd that happen?

[Luke Lafreniere]

Oh, the show's going to be really, really short this week and then it's. Yeah, what's up with that?

[Dan]

Every time you complain that there's no topics, it's a five hour show and

[Luke Lafreniere]

every time there's too many topics, it's really fast.

[Dan]

I wonder if it's a self fulfilling process.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I think maybe because you're trying to correct for. Yeah, we're just too good at correcting for the amount of topics.

[Dan]

How many years have you guys been doing this?

[Linus Sebastian]

At least one.

[Dan]

Factually correct.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah.

[Dan]

All right, let's see what we have for you today.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Hey, tall.

[Dan]

Tall and short. I hope it's a good news wan show. You were correct. It's pretty nice. Am trying to find a good recommendation for a CPU upgrade for my friend. Still on AM4 because 5800x3ds are gone. Are the XT CPUs worth upgrading in my opinion?

[Linus Sebastian]

No, not really. Oh yeah, that's a. That's a tough one because on the one hand an AM4 chip is still good enough to game like you. You're not giving up much as soon as you're up at like 1440p unless you have like a God tier GPU. So, you know, the good news is they're probably having a pretty good experience. The bad news is that if they want to upgrade at this point, their options are kinda kind of limited without going for a full new platform, which I would assume we're trying to avoid spending money on DDR5.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah, that is one of. This is a little off topic, but that is one of the things I was looking into is like what is the most cranked processor I can get that's still DDR4 because the price saving is.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah, there's.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I was thinking 5950X, but I have not done very much looking into this.

[Linus Sebastian]

I wouldn't. I wouldn't want to spend that kind of money. How much are they on an old platform? So 5950X, you're spending 336 bucks. And the bad news about that is you're not really getting much out of the other eight cores from. From a gaming standpoint.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Oh, yeah. See, in my perspective, I'm not gaming.

[Linus Sebastian]

Right. Yeah. So there you go. I mean, like, this is like, it's okay, but like, by the time I'm spending $300, like, I wonder if these

[Luke Lafreniere]

went up because of the whole RAM.

[Linus Sebastian]

Oh, yeah. 100.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah. It's. It's been a thing.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah.

[Linus Sebastian]

Hold on. Intel. What are the bloody. What are the bloody new ones called? I know there's something.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I think it was Asrock or something did that like. Oh, it's DDR5 and DDR4 on the same other board thing. I wish they would just have the. I don't know, the cojones to just. It's just DDR4. Whatever. Modern CPU, four slots, DDR4. Go for it. 12. 700K is what Pankratz is recommending. 700K.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah.

[Luke Lafreniere]

That's probably. Well. Oh, that's actually. Nope, that's a new price. Hold on, let me find it on like ebay or something.

[Linus Sebastian]

Where the bloody hell are the core ultras? The new ones?

[Luke Lafreniere]

Those are still kind of.

[Linus Sebastian]

Okay. So by the time you're spending that kind of money, this is a much faster chip. And this guy, this guy is actually like kind of Stellar for 200 plus.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Chips are pretty wicked. I wish building computers was like a thing that people. People were doing right now because it was so sad seeing that video. Like not just get like 2 million views because everyone's so hyped on the new processors.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah. Like that. The Core Ultra 5.250k Plus. Awful name. Pretty exciting chip.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah. And just no one can afford ram.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah. But by the time I've saved a hundred dollars compared to that, that 5950X. Right. Because I'm getting 18. Yeah. Not all of them are performance cores or whatever, but I'm getting. I'm getting 18 cores now instead of 16 cores. Like, let's have a look at 16 gigs DDR5. Remember, I just saved a hundred dollars. Yep. So yeah, it's $220 for DDR5, but I can probably sell my DDR4 for some money. And I'm now all of a sudden I'm okay now I'm getting like a whole platform upgrade. I'm moving to PCIe Gen 5. I just, I just by design it feels like AMD, by no longer producing X3D chips for the AM4 platform is kind of undercutting what was supposed to be one of the promises of that platform is having that upgrade path. And in some ways it's not AMD's fault because they had no way of knowing that the secondhand market for these X3D chips was going to go. Absolutely, absolutely bazonkers. Yeah. But on the other hand, they totally probably could make x3d chips and then AM4 users who didn't go x3d earlier would have an upgrade path. But you can see it's one of those funny things. It's like back when I bought a minivan and I realized that it wasn't cheaper to buy a used one per sort of usable, remaining low maintenance life because everyone had made the same spreadsheet that I did in the same way everyone has access to the same performance data that I do and that you do and is doing the same calculation going, okay, how do we position our products so that they're like, you know, these ones are pretty okay, but what you really want is this one. And so they're looking at RAM pricing, they're balancing that against how much their CPUs cost and their motherboards cost. And they're trying to make it, they're trying to make the one they want you to buy more compelling and the one they don't want you to buy less compelling. So that's probably the route that I would go right now if you were looking for a serious upgrade on AM4. And X3D is not really an option. And Pankratz's advice is pretty good. What do you say? 12, 700K? Yeah, that's, that's a really solid option as well. I'm just, I'm a little worried that while we are saving some money by sticking with the DDR4, we're changing our motherboard and we're changing our CPU. And I'm not sure if we're getting enough of an upgrade for that in game.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I think it's really going to depend on your local market too.

[Linus Sebastian]

That. Yeah, 100%. Yeah. And what's nice about my option of going DDR5 now, even though like that sucks, is that DDR4 is also benefiting from the rampocalypse in terms of its value. So the fact that you have some DDR4 helps take a little bit of a bite out of that DDR5 upgrade.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah.

[Linus Sebastian]

All right, hit me. Dan.

[Dan]

Hi, LLD. My dad has been stealing my screwdriver a lot lately, so I'm getting one for his birthday.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Nice.

[Dan]

What is your favorite present that you have received from your kids or your parents from you?

[Linus Sebastian]

Oh, wow. Favorite present from my kids. There's a really cute one they made me. They made me an. An iPad that was like a little like a. Not like a pop up book, but like, like a lift the flap thing. So it has a whole bunch of apps on it and then in each app they like wrote something nice under it.

[Luke Lafreniere]

That's cool.

[Linus Sebastian]

It's really cute. Yvonne helped them make it. Oh, you know what? There was another really good one they did for me. They made me pajamas that had like vinyl iron on things of this things I like. So it has like a badminton racket on it and like a cat and like a bunch of just like kind of random stuff like that. I wore those into the ground usually. Yvonne is the actual, you know, driver of the stuff that my kids give me that I really like.

[Luke Lafreniere]

That makes sense.

[Linus Sebastian]

I don't need anything from my kids. Their smile when I walk in the door is like realistically all I ever hope to need from them.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Hallmark card. Sorry, Hallmark card.

[Linus Sebastian]

I don't want a Hallmark card.

[Luke Lafreniere]

It sounds like what's on a Hallmark.

[Linus Sebastian]

Oh, sure. I'd rather have nothing than like spending, wasting $6 so much on a card.

[Dan]

13.

[Linus Sebastian]

I don't know how much a Hallmark card cost.

[Luke Lafreniere]

They're insane. So stupid.

[Linus Sebastian]

No dog.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I'm going to hear about saying that, but I stand by it. They're ridiculous. I, I don't know if it's necessarily my favorite, but one of a very memorable one for me is, you know, when you turn 16, at least up here, there's a lot of conversations around like, are you, are your parents going to get you a car? That was not gonna be a thing for us, but my dad bought me.

[Linus Sebastian]

It's supposed to be a gift from you to your parents.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Oh,

[Linus Sebastian]

Hallmark card.

[Luke Lafreniere]

No, I've got some cool ones I'm trying to think of. Like, what's the.

[Linus Sebastian]

I mean, I think the one you did this year was really cool.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Do I talk about that?

[Linus Sebastian]

It's up to you. It's over now, so no one's gonna harass you there.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Lord of the Rings was like a huge thing for my family. Like my mom has a huge like chest of memorabilia from back then. We won some like call in contests that I think you had to like know details with the movies or something to try to win. To get us an advanced screening for. I believe it was Two Towers. I won that. I think I brought my mom. I, I think it was. Sorry I said the other way around. It was my mom and I that went. I think it was. I think I won it anyways, whatever. Very, very, very into Lord of the Rings. And they had a 25 year anniversary thing this year and the hobbits and the actor for Gimli and the actor for Faramir were all going to be there and you could do like meet and greets and photos and stuff and I, I got everybody tickets to go there and like meet people and whatnot. And it's, it's interesting. I think I talked about that a little bit on, on the show here, but it's interesting how it kind of went.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah, no, it wasn't how you expected.

[Luke Lafreniere]

No, I mean, the show was terribly ran. It was actually like kind of fascinating how poorly the show was ran. I talked to. There was somebody there. I don't remember his name right now. I, I hope I gave him a shout out last time I talked about it, but there was somebody there that like really helped our experience not be really terrible, which was, which was awesome. Oh, someone in chat said John Rhys Davies is a bundle of joy. Yeah, he was like, amazing. And from watching the movies, Gimli is like one of my least favorite characters really. He's like very definitely just uses comedic relief most of the time. I actually appreciate him in the movies way more now because I've met John Rhys Davies in real life and I'm like, oh, he's just kind of like that. When we were all taking photos, he was like tickling people to try to get them to laugh. And he'd like get really happy if he got you. He'd be like. It was, it was very funny.

[Linus Sebastian]

That's fun.

[Luke Lafreniere]

And yeah, like the, the you have to toss me scene, it's so good. Felt a lot more like real after meeting him too.

[Dan]

Right.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Like, it feels less acted. That's just kind of what he's like. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that was awesome. Yeah, that's, that's probably one of my, my. I like that one more.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah, I thought that one was awesome.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah, it was pretty sweet.

[Dan]

Up next, two quests. Linus, what is your strategy to keep your mind sharp? What do you do? Diet, reading, sleep. We know about exercise, but what else do you do? And Luke, when's that chicken recipe help a bro?

[Luke Lafreniere]

It's on floatplane.

[Linus Sebastian]

It is. It is. You can find it. Lmg, gg, Floatplane not only gives you the recipe, he makes it.

[Dan]

Yep.

[Linus Sebastian]

So he shows you how to do it? Keeping my mind sharp. I mean, is it sharp? You'd be honest, right?

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah, I think so.

[Linus Sebastian]

It's the same answer that I give everyone when they ask me something like this. You know, oh, how did you. How did you work so hard in the early days of lmg? And how do you do this? And how do. How did you succeed? How did you do that? I don't have a choice. I get home at the end of the day and I have a splitting headache very often because you can only. It's a weird thing because it doesn't seem intuitive. Your brain's not a muscle. But it does. In my experience, it does wear out. I like, my brain gets really tired and there are certain things that make it more tired than other things. But when you run a business, you can't avoid those things. You don't really have that luxury of. This task is not good for my mental health. You get fortunately a lot of support if you have a good team, and I do. But at the end of the day you can't just like hide from things and if you do, they tend to snowball and get bigger. And we've had those experiences many times over the years where we've tried to avoid a problem and ultimately it has turned into a much bigger problem. No, no choice. Power through it. Terrible advice. I, you know, not great for self care, but how do I do it like that?

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah, sometimes you just gotta do it for, for a bit of a slight jump back. This is it. If you're looking for it, there's your title.

[Linus Sebastian]

I, I do, I do read. I try to sleep. I often am not able to sleep anymore. I don't know if it's like just age or stress or kids or whatever it is.

[Luke Lafreniere]

You've been really rough.

[Linus Sebastian]

I try to not eat total garbage. Although I had a really. I had the worst cheat day that I can remember.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Are you doing that thing I recommended?

[Linus Sebastian]

Oh, I've tried the ultra filtered milk.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Okay.

[Linus Sebastian]

It doesn't taste that great.

[Luke Lafreniere]

That isn't what I was talking about, but.

[Linus Sebastian]

Oh, the, the powder. Yeah, I haven't tried that yet.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Okay.

[Linus Sebastian]

No, no, no, no. When I'm. No, I'm talking like cheat day. Like this is good.

[Luke Lafreniere]

That was a different thought.

[Linus Sebastian]

So I went down for a little workshop Buddy of mine, Danny's badminton guy, but he runs a paint shop. Jake actually introduced us, of all people. And so he runs, like, a paint spray shop. And after my terrible experience painting my bike, he was, like, chatting with me and was like, oh, yeah, I could, like, maybe, like, show you how to paint some stuff. And I was like, oh, yeah, I could get, like, a care package of merch for your son. His son's really into the channel. Anyway, we figured out a deal, and Danny's a super nice guy, very generous with his time. He's come out and run a couple of, like, badminton Reddit group meetups at our badminton club. The world is so small, and you never know what kind of connection you're gonna make by just, like, being nice to people. So anyway, we've. So we've done a few things together and he offered to help me figure out my paint gun so that if I ever try to tackle something like that again, I maybe will be somewhat competent this time. It won't take two and a half years. Anyway, I was on my way back from that really nice little session. I've learned a lot. And I was like, oh, is Krispy Kreme still open? And unfortunately it was.

[Luke Lafreniere]

So Linus has a thing for Krispy Kreme.

[Linus Sebastian]

I got myself a dozen of the Krispy Kreme Original Glazed.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Do you eat them all?

[Linus Sebastian]

That evening, it was probably the most perfectly baked batch of Krispy Kreme doughnuts that I have ever eaten. The glazing was perfect. Not too much sugar. Like, the bottom still had no sugar, but it was, like, down the sides, so it wasn't, like, too sweet. And it was like the lightest, chewiest, like, it was. I ate eight of them that evening and four the next morning. Three and a half. My daughters caught me with the last one in my hand. They were like, are the rest of them gone? Are there any for us? Because I had intended to share them.

[Luke Lafreniere]

It's.

[Linus Sebastian]

I don't know how they make something that has so many calories in it taste so light. It's incredible. And I even. I went really late at night thinking, oh, it's probably going to be, like, a crappy batch from, like, many hours ago, but it was like, like the freshest, perfectest batch of Krispy Kremes I ever had. I just. Oh. Oh, man. It was so good. It was so good.

[Luke Lafreniere]

That's pretty sweet.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah, I. So I cheated, like, super hard earlier this week, and then I punished myself on the StairMaster. I'm. I think I'M I think I'm. Pinch test. Okay today, so it clearly wasn't that bad. Yeah. Pinch. Yeah, Pinch test. There's like, dude, I'm closing in on 40, and there's, like. There's, like, front flap that just won't go away anymore. Yeah.

[Luke Lafreniere]

You just start to carry more weight.

[Linus Sebastian]

It just sucks, man. It sucks. That's life, though.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I've been losing decently consistently lately. I started with the knee problems. I sent you a little video of it. I started the. The treadmill walks again. I have, like, a foldy treadmill that can unfold and go under my desk, and that's been pretty good. Part of that is just getting back into the habit of remembering to do that.

[Linus Sebastian]

Oh, yeah.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Is annoying. Um, because, like, I'll just be so lasered in on work or whatever that I just forget to switch. But then once it's going, I can stay on it for a while. 190 calories is no big deal, but 12. Yeah.

[Linus Sebastian]

No, no. Dan was saying it's only 190. Yeah, yeah.

[Dan]

And I was just.

[Linus Sebastian]

I was in chat clarifying. It's 190 each.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yes.

[Dan]

Yes. No, 190 each.

[Luke Lafreniere]

That's actually way better than I would have expected.

[Dan]

Me too. Let's see McDouble Gallery. If you're gonna. McDouble. It's 400 calories.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah. So I sat down and I ate four McDoubles in one sitting.

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Linus Sebastian]

But that's not good.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Oh, no, we're not. I'm not saying it's good.

[Dan]

Okay.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I'm saying, like, okay, if you had one.

[Linus Sebastian]

Dan seems to be trying to. Seems to be trying to rationalize my terrible.

[Luke Lafreniere]

How much is it?

[Linus Sebastian]

No, no.

[Dan]

I was surprised that, like, a donut is not McDonald's crazy milkshake. Oh, those are, like, a thousand.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I tried to go with medium to be. To be pretty chill. 750 calories for a medium milkshake from McDonald's.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah. Milkshakes are brutal. I love milkshakes.

[Luke Lafreniere]

What about, like, a fries?

[Linus Sebastian]

But I just. I almost never do it anymore. Sometimes I will share a milkshake with Yvonne if she has one, but I just. I can't.

[Luke Lafreniere]

A medium fries is 350 calories from. And, like, who's getting medium? So we're talking 560 calories for a large fries from McDonald's.

[Linus Sebastian]

And this is a Canadian one. I'm sure the American size is bigger.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Wouldn't be too surprised. So. So it's like. Like, for, you know, for that many fries, you get A few donuts in there.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yep, yep. And I would, I think I would take three crispy thousand percent.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Take three Krispy Kreme.

[Linus Sebastian]

Oh, McDonald's fries. Okay. If they're freshly fried though. Look, you guys have heard me dunk on McDonald's a lot of times on this show.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Oh, sorry. Sorry AJ Not. Not R. AJ but. But full point chat. AJ Said I run an ice cream parlor. Our Brownie sundae is 1600 calories.

[Linus Sebastian]

That's insane.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Holy crap.

[Linus Sebastian]

That's insane.

[Luke Lafreniere]

These numbers like the fries and the milkshake and that are all why I'm saying like, oh, it's like surprising that it's only 190.

[Dan]

Eating 12 of them is one serving of McDonald's. Plain hamburger bun is 150 calories.

[Luke Lafreniere]

This is what I'm saying. It's actually very surprising.

[Dan]

That's that low nuts.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Probably because I, I think the. It's. It's a cake one. Right. So it's mostly like kind of air.

[Linus Sebastian]

It's pretty airy.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah, it's pretty airy.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I haven't had one of those.

[Dan]

Most of it probably comes many years sugar.

[Linus Sebastian]

So rather than like fat. Anyway, you've heard me dunk on McDonald's a lot of times, but I am a fry enjoyer. McDonald's fries are. Dude, when the fresh McDonald's fries.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Pretty good.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah, I'll just, I'll eat them without even thinking about it. I can't have them with reach. Like our kids don't eat McDonald's much. But when we do get it, I have to just put the fries in the back where I can't reach them because I'll just eat them all and they won't even get any.

[Dan]

What is the correct price in your opinion for a hybrid motorcycle? What kind of miles per gallon or liters per kilometer target should it hit, should it be feet forward or standard or sit it scooter style?

[Linus Sebastian]

That is totally up to you. Personally, I do not have, nor do I have any interest in a hybrid motorcycle. I like my old crappy 23 year old bike from 2003. It makes motorsports noises, which makes me happy, which normally I don't care about. I don't care about it for my go kart. I don't care about it for my full sized car. I just don't care about like, like that type of engagement with the vehicle anywhere except my motorcycle. And the efficiency for me of a motorcycle is a lot less important than the efficiency of a car in my life or a much larger vehicle in My life, like, it just, it's so small and it consumes so little fuel.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Like a van, right?

[Linus Sebastian]

Like a, like a Honda Odyssey. Like a much larger vehicle like that. And so I just, I can't, I can't care too much about that. I also never ride very far, so comfort is not a major concern. So I'm on like the street bike. I'm like all folded over the handlebars and stuff. I'm the wrong person to ask is what I'm trying to say right now because the way I use my bike is just completely unaligned with your very practical concerns. And I'm so sorry to give you such a non answer, but at least it was a thorough and long one.

[Dan]

That's all that matters in the end. Aloha, LDL from Hawaii. What is your best component? Overheating story. My 6950 was hitting 114 due to cheap thermal paste. Oops. Thanks for selling PTM 7950.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yikes.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I haven't really had a lot of

[Linus Sebastian]

tons of problems with it computer overheating story. I mean, I've definitely had some issues. There's been, I mean, I mean there's the multiple times that I've accidentally boiled water in a loop and therefore caused it to build pressure and explode tubing off of the fittings. Like that's, that's the thing. Because you run so many test benches, you're just like putting things together quickly. So if you don't have the fans running on a radiator because, you know, whatever, if it runs for long enough, the coolant will get hot. Maybe not like boiling boiling, but enough that you're getting pressure buildup. And, and I've had that happen before. I don't remember the specifics around it, but it's funny. I think, I think everything lived. I think it's happened a couple times. I don't think I've ever actually killed anything like that. Because as long as it's clean water and you get it off right away and you turn cut the power, you can actually. Hardware is very survivable. Like that Coke. That Coke video we did where we spilled Coke on the running machine and then we like cleaned it all and turned it back on. We didn't stage that. We don't fake stuff that happened. It all lived.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah. Someone posted when Bingo Chronified posted that the MacBook Neo is funny. You had a single thermal pad and benchmarks go up 30%.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah. Was it optimum tech that did it? Someone did It. And it's a little more complicated than that. I haven't actually watched Options Optimum's video, but I do know ETA Prime. Sorry, eta prime did it. So I haven't watched ETA Prime's video, and so I don't know exactly how they did it. What I suspect is that it's really similar to the mod that we did back on the M1 MacBook way back in the day, where you're just using the bottom of the chassis as a heat sink. So it's not just as simple as Apple. Is Herder too stupid to put cooling in their machine? I mean, there's clearly a little bit of that, but it's not that they were too cheap to put in a thermal pad. It's that Apple has to follow guidelines for how hot the skin temperatures of the device can get. So they're not allowed to just put the CPU or SOC as it were, heat directly into the bottom of the chassis because they would exceed those safe temperatures if it was sitting on your lap.

[Luke Lafreniere]

It sounds like Alex, actually.

[Linus Sebastian]

Oh, did they do that too?

[Luke Lafreniere]

Mr. Zip Tie Tech just threw in a thermal pad.

[Linus Sebastian]

Oh, that's cool.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I haven't watched the video, but you got a bunch of views on it. Heck yeah. Mess around with some cooling. I don't know where it's at in the video, but you guys will have to just check it out. It gets. Oh, cooling upgrade here.

[Linus Sebastian]

You guys should go watch the video. We're not gonna.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah, yeah. I'm just looking at it myself, but yeah, that's. That's pretty sweet. I saw probably without this cooling upgrade that people were getting, you know, with settings pretty low and whatnot, but above 30fps in Cyberpunk, it's pretty cool, which is pretty nuts.

[Linus Sebastian]

All right, Dan, want to hit us with another? No, no, I don't think I have that much interest in getting it working. I. I did watch someone else's video getting one of them working. It's the highly involved. It's. It's not as simple as.

[Luke Lafreniere]

What are you talking about? Because he was muted. So what. What device?

[Linus Sebastian]

Nomad MP3 player from the Dank Pods Collab video. Yeah, we're not fixing that. It's just. I don't care that much about it. I'm so sorry. To the Nomad enthusiasts who wish that we were fixing it.

[Dan]

I double pressed a couple more here. Hello, Linus, when your kids had a pure toddler meltdown, how did you approach that and did you de stress afterwards? Distress.

[Linus Sebastian]

De stress. I think they mean yeah, Pure toddler meltdown is one of those things that if you handle it right, you have to handle it only a few times. And the bottom line is that you can only give positive reinforcement for behaviors that you want to see again. So if a meltdown gets the slice of cake, you will see that behavior over and over and over and over again. And if a meltdown gets you seated on a bench outside the restaurant where you are within eyeshot but not allowed to participate, it might even be a little cold that night, you're less likely to see it again. And we. We did have to go through meltdowns with all of our kids at one stage or another. And sometimes those battles literally took hours. I think I've told the story on WAN show before of the time that I was in an IKEA cafeteria for. I think it was a total of three cycles of other people starting and finishing their meals while I sat there battling it out with this crying child over that. I had said, you have to take one more bite. And she said, no. And I said, you don't understand. You will take another bite. And after that, there was no question, because when I said. And literally I brought this up, the next time we had a battle over food is I said, you have to eat this broccoli. And she said, no. And I said, okay, well, we can do it the way where you take the bite now and you eat the broccoli now, or we can do it the way we did at Ikea, where you sat there and you cried for an hour and a half or two hours or whatever it was, and you did take the bite. So how do you want to do it? Can I go now? Yes. The tough part is you've. You've got to be. You've got to keep your cool.

[Luke Lafreniere]

You have to be good on the other end of it.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah, you have to be. You have to keep your cool in the moment because if you lose it and you threaten something that you're not willing to follow through on or that you shouldn't follow through on, you've completely. You've completely broken the system. You have to stay controlled and you have to only threaten things that are reasonable and that you will follow through on. Yeah, it's a man. It's tough.

[Dan]

Last one I got for you today. Question for Luke. You mentioned Forza Horizon earlier, and I'm wondering if you've played any of the older forza Horizon games. 2 and 3 are still some of my favorite games.

[Luke Lafreniere]

No, I've thought about going back, actually, because there Was. I think I originally wanted to get into Forza because of drifting. And then to be completely honest, I actually really did not like the drifting in Forza Horizon 5. Unless you were off road. Really, really liked the off road drifting. But the, like, on track, on road drifting in Forza Horizon 5, I really kind of hated it. Just felt like liquid. It didn't feel like it was. I don't want it to be an actual sim. I wasn't playing Horizon for a sim, but it just. It felt way too whack. Even, like Mario Kart drifting felt like it was more grounded in something that made sense. But I've seen some clips of some pretty cool drifting stuff in older Horizon games, but, yeah, I've never really got around to it. There was almost like too much content in Horizon 5 to the point where when I. When I was done, I was just like, okay, I think I'm gonna take a break from racing games for a little bit. Yeah.

[Linus Sebastian]

But no, I like. Sorry, Luke doesn't not like the drifting in Mario Kart world.

[Luke Lafreniere]

No, I don't like it.

[Linus Sebastian]

Oh, you don't like it.

[Luke Lafreniere]

They are totally right.

[Linus Sebastian]

Oh, that is.

[Luke Lafreniere]

It's just worse than eight. I'm not necessarily saying it's bad.

[Linus Sebastian]

Oh, interesting.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Just worse than eight. And it's not necessarily how it feels, but it's how, like, the game interacts with it, how it rewards it when you should use it, versus other things, stuff like that.

[Linus Sebastian]

Is it just because you're used to eight?

[Luke Lafreniere]

It could be.

[Linus Sebastian]

I actually really, like, I've been open

[Luke Lafreniere]

to that as a possibility.

[Linus Sebastian]

I only ever played Mario Kart DS extensively, and it's really close to ds, so I was able to just pick it up and go.

[Luke Lafreniere]

And I really don't like the drifting in eight. I mean, okay, fair enough. The Mario Kart drifting eight versus world is like, insanely different than Horizon. The reason why I brought it up was because, like, in Mario Kart, you can kind of, like, really feel the bite of the road as you're trying to drift. And in. In. In Horizon 5. And some people corroborated this in Philippe Jet as well. In Horizon 5, when you take a drift car tuned for drifting and you take it on the road, the road just might as well not even be there. Just like, you're just kind of floating around like, it's. It's very weird. I've been in cars while they were drifting. I've drifted in other games. Yeah, it's. You're really kind of like, fighting with the engine in the road to, to make yourself go around this thing. There's a lot of like force, feedback like a lot of it. And in, in Horizon she's like, like just. I don't know. It's weird. And that's why I actually preferred drifting off road was because fighting the like gravel and dirt or whatever actually ended up feeling a lot more legit than trying to drift on the. On the actual asphalt. Yeah, Pancraft is saying Horizon 5 feels like the physics are weird with drift cars. Yeah, it feels really weird. It doesn't feel good. I think the main thing with World wasn't necessarily how the drifting felt but how the game like rewarded and incentivized it more than anything else. But yeah.

[Linus Sebastian]

Well, I think that's all for now because I am busy playing vibes Fish and I have no further time for WAN show. So we will see you again next week. Same bad time, same bad channel. Oh, and also on another channel next week. Oh yeah, yeah. So go subscribe to LMG clips because that's going to be the WAN show channel.

[Luke Lafreniere]

It'll be called something else. But go subscribe now. Bye.