The Future Of Wan Show - WAN Show January 2, 2026

Summary

The WAN Show: The Future Of WAN Show – January 2, 2026

Podcast: The WAN Show (Linus Tech Tips)
Hosts: Linus Sebastian, Luke Lafreniere
Date: January 3, 2026
Episode Title: The Future Of Wan Show

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Episode Overview

This episode marks a pivotal moment in the history of the WAN Show. Linus and Luke open with hints about major changes to the show’s ownership structure, which they reveal and discuss in detail. Alongside that big news, they cover several key tech headlines: the persistent rise in GPU and RAM prices, the controversy surrounding Grok’s misuse for generating non-consensual sexual images, the U.S. drone import ban, adventures in “tech house” renovation, media preservation efforts for cult CGI TV shows, and a lively discussion of used PC hardware strategies in today’s market. The episode is characteristically irreverent, packed with memorable moments and candid opinions, and it closes with the promise that, despite "big changes," the WAN Show’s spirit is here to stay.

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1. Major Change: WAN Show Becomes a 50/50 Partnership

Timestamp: 22:42 – 29:44

• Revelation: Ownership of the WAN Show has changed. Linus officially "abdicated half of my ownership stake" and made it a 50/50 partnership with Luke. They’ve incorporated a new company, Adequate Media Inc.

  • “I have abdicated half of my ownership stake of the WAN Show.” – Linus [23:14]
  • “It’s official. The WAN Show is a 50/50 partnership between me and Luke.” – Linus [23:31]

• Impact: This does not immediately affect the content, platform, or operational structure. Day-to-day, nothing will change, but it’s designed to guarantee “the WAN Show can continue forward for, indefinitely basically however long.” – Linus [28:35]

• Future-Proofing: The move ensures both hosts have equal incentive and security in the show’s future, regardless of what happens with Linus Media Group or their personal careers.

• Notable Quote:
  “The change, then, the big change is that the WAN Show is safe and that the WAN Show will not change.” – Linus [25:06]
  “However, starting soon we will start streaming the WAN Show on a different channel and... over time we will ... stop streaming the WAN Show on the LTT channel and it will move to a dedicated channel.” [28:44]

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2. Media Preservation: “Reboot” & CGI Nostalgia

Timestamp: 03:37 – 08:29

• Linus explains LTT’s long-running involvement in preserving the Canadian CGI classic "Reboot" through technical support—providing drives, paying for repairs on rare D1 tape decks, etc.
• The original “Reboot” episodes have now been fully captured from D1 tapes; efforts are underway to restore other vintage CGI shows like "Beast Wars."
• Discussion of why media preservation matters, especially for referencing historical context in tech.
  • "When you're in the thick of it, it's hard to think about these things." – Linus [08:29]

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3. Hardware Economics: GPU and RAM Prices, The Scrapyard Strategy

GPU and RAM Price Increases

Timestamp: 26:26, 132:02, 171:04

• Bad News Repeats: Linus and Luke lament continued (and increasing) GPU and RAM price hikes.

  • “GPUs are supposed to go up in price… We already lived through this one multiple times. This is double jeopardy.” – Linus [00:26]

• Rumors: NVIDIA and AMD are prepping for further GPU price hikes; RAM prices are surging, driven partly by AI/data center demand (Micron news segment, [132:02]).

• Discussion: The economic context—a combination of manufacturing monopolies (TSMC, ASML, NVIDIA) locking in high margins and supply issues—means relief is unlikely.

• Notable Quote:
  “It’s kind of a frustrating thing because ... there’s this pressure... for us to be more outraged, for us to like demand Nvidia lower their prices. As if they’re going to listen to us.” – Linus [16:51]

“Scrapyard Warrior” Mindset: Used Hardware Hacks

Timestamp: 09:38 – 21:29

• Workaround: Linus stresses that riding out bad pricing cycles by snagging used, slightly older hardware ("scrapyard wars") is honorable—and often just smart.

• Examples: A friend’s teenage son is playing Valorant and Arc Raiders at high FPS using a GTX 1080 and older Intel CPU. “If it plays the game you want at 80 FPS, why not?” – Luke [11:15]

• Math: Used GPUs’ depreciation slows down as they age, making them good stopgap buys—“It’s already gotten very low on its depreciation curve.” – Linus [15:49]

• Real-Life Builds: Discussion includes stories of jury-rigged computers, DIY fixes, and the joys of making something out of nothing. Inspired moments from the community subreddit lauded.

• Quote:
  “Making stuff work is cool. When did that not be cool?” – Linus [13:56]

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4. User Hardware Tips & Market Insights

• Entry Level Builds: Even entry builds now have dedicated GPUs (e.g., A580) and are more capable than ever, despite price pressure. Linus critiques some suboptimal build guides but points out that with careful shopping and mixing old/new/used, gaming is still accessible below past peaks. [178:29+, 179:32+]
• Buying Used Cautions/Stories: Detailed discussion about checking GPUs on local marketplaces, strategies to avoid shipping scams, advantages of depreciation curve.
• Community Learning: The used hardware process builds troubleshooting skills and community know-how.
  • “You learn a lot more about your craft… you’re learning stuff, which is kind of fun and cool.” – Luke [19:31]

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5. Spotlight: Other Key Tech News & Hot Topics

AI Slop and Grok Controversy

Timestamp: 05:05, 106:25, 108:48 – 116:36

• Grok (X/Twitter’s generative AI) is being used to create non-consensual sexual images, including of minors.
  • “Grok is being used to generate non consensual sexual images of both adults and children. And it’s, like, actually as bad as it sounds.” – Luke [01:05/106:25]
• Outrage over how easily these guardrails were bypassed and the broader social/ethical issues, including disturbing possible training sources for the model.
  • “What the hell was Grock trained on to be able to do that?” – Linus [109:03]
• Debate over what true “consent” means in these AI use cases; discussion of the failure of available safeguards and lack of responsible moderation.

US Ban on Foreign Drones (e.g., DJI)

Timestamp: 30:44 – 38:10

• Policy: New rules ban non-American drones and critical components from U.S. market, claimed to be for national security.
• Industry Backlash: No strong U.S. competition; commercial users say there are no affordable alternatives.
• Political Angling: Linus and Luke discuss “who benefits” (domestic drone companies with lobbying connections).
• AI, National Security Angle: Empathy for defense concerns but criticism of how the ban favors special interests and will raise costs/hurt progress.

Tech House Project: Renovation Adventures

Timestamp: 40:13 – 54:53

• Linus updates on the acquisition and renovation plans for a dedicated LTT “tech house”—a testbed for smart home, AV, and general tech experiments.
• Hilarious anecdotes about the bizarre wiring and previous owner’s tech shortcuts (e.g., phone jack beside the toilet, DIY 240V garage extension cord). [47:00–49:36]
  • “This guy’s idea of safety first was the four fire extinguishers that he had in his garage rather than … not starting a fire in the first place.” – Linus [48:52]
• Anticipated content: wiring for spouse-approved hidden tech, media setups for tabletop gaming, creative automation, etc.

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6. Merch, LTT Announcements, and Audience Engagement

Timestamp: 63:03 – 72:33

• Launch of new "Crash Out" t-shirt, and teased upcoming “True Spec” LTT USB cables—emphasizing real tested performance, clear labeling for speed and power, and a variety of sensible lengths.
  • “I just want to eliminate uncertainty from my life… I know that whatever I’m holding is the best cable it could be for that.” – Linus [67:07]
• Audience engagement via “merch messages” (interactive Q&A for those buying from LTT Store), and several discussions about future cable types, home/server labs, and self-hosting projects in the After Dark segment.

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7. Short Takes & Memorable Moments

• Media preservation gets passionate defense:
  “If we don’t keep the media from that time, then we don’t have it. It’s that simple.” – Linus [08:29]
• Humorous banter about Canadian housing and wiring oddities (e.g., illegal home upgrades in Australia).
• Riffing on cereal/milk etiquette and “deep cut” slang:
  “Bit of a deep cut refers to a significant wound... No, really, it’s slang for an obscure reference!” [42:48–43:40]
• Luke’s used hardware stories: Rubber band plus pencil as a power button; using a car mudflap for a pump mount.
• Tech culture touchstones: The community’s DIY ethos celebrated through “Scrapyard Wars.”
• Movie Rating Tangents: Noting how some “bad” movies (e.g., Boondock Saints) are still beloved [157:19].

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8. Noteworthy Quotes & Characteristic Tone

• “Making stuff work is cool. When did that not be cool?” — Linus [13:56]
• “You just ruined all the...” — Luke (on Linus’s dramatic announcement) [00:14]
• “I keep cats in bags. I’m like a cat bag kind of guy.” — Linus (theoretical, not literal, cats) [22:05]
• “You can’t live through a GPU apocalypse twice. These are fundamental laws.” – Linus [00:51]
• "Is this a new shorts format? ... Is this thing on the left just Subway Surfers?" – Linus [91:20] (as they try out YouTube Shorts as a new user)

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9. Timestamps for Major Segments

• Opening and News Preview: 00:00 – 03:05
• Reboot & Media Preservation: 03:35 – 08:29
• Hardware pricing and Scrapyard advice: 09:38 – 21:29
• WAN Show Ownership Announcement: 22:42 – 29:44
• Drone Import Ban: 30:44 – 38:10
• Tech House Adventures: 40:13 – 54:53
• Hardware economics, builds & price hikes: 132:02, 171:04 onwards
• AI & Grok Misuse Controversy: 106:25 – 116:36
• Audience interactions, cables, merch: 63:03 – 72:33, 135:46 – 137:46
• After Dark/Community Messages: 217:35 and onwards

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10. Closing Thoughts

While the “big change” headline of the episode turns out to be a behind-the-scenes formalization (not a radical shift in the show’s DNA), the episode stands out as a densely packed, classic WAN Show—with real talk about the state of PC hardware, a heartfelt plea for DIY and media preservation, hands-on anecdotes, and unmistakable Linus/Luke banter.

Summary Statement:
Despite ongoing upheaval and price anxiety in the tech world, the WAN Show leans into knowledge-sharing, humor, and building an even more collaborative future between its two legendary hosts. As Linus says:

“The WAN Show is safe and… will not change. … Today, nothing’s really changing, honestly, internally or externally.” [25:06–28:38]

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Transcript

[Linus Sebastian]

Last WAN show of its type. Actually, last week was the last WAN show before some major.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Well, that's a bit of a.

[Linus Sebastian]

Changes that we'll be talking about.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Sure.

[Linus Sebastian]

I mean, do you agree that it's a very big change?

[Luke Lafreniere]

It's. Sure. But I think shattering that way makes it, like, less concerning. You just ruined all the.

[Linus Sebastian]

No, I think it's pretty concerning.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Okay.

[Linus Sebastian]

WAN show will never be the same. We'll be talking about that. We'll also be talking about all the tech news from this week, including. Oh, really? GPUs are supposed to go up in price.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yep.

[Linus Sebastian]

No, we already lived through this one multiple times. This is double jeopardy. You can't get charged for the same crime twice. You can't.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah.

[Linus Sebastian]

You can't be a witness for your spouse's crime. You can't live through a GPU apocalypse twice. These are fundamental laws.

[Luke Lafreniere]

This is. This is. We're beyond twice, though.

[Linus Sebastian]

What else we got?

[Luke Lafreniere]

Grok completely ruined my morning. Grok is being used to generate non consensual sexual images of both adults and children. And it's, like, actually as bad as it sounds. Uh, we'll talk about that later. Um, apparently good news. Oh, I was gonna go for bad news again.

[Linus Sebastian]

No, no good news, please. Okay, hold on. Please balance it out. So far, we've got bad news, bad news, bad news.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Okay, this is gonna sound like bad news, but I think it's kind of fun. Unlucky RTX 5080 buyer who received rocks did their own investigation and they got their replacement from Best Buy. They won.

[Linus Sebastian]

Oh, well, that's good.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah.

[Linus Sebastian]

All right. Yeah.

[Luke Lafreniere]

And it's kind of sick how they did it.

[Linus Sebastian]

Let's go with that. There's nothing like hacking into the files.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Of the principal office. What's this? An energy vortex. Organic life forms. Oh, how quaint. I seem to have discovered a portal into a parallel universe. Extraordinary savages.

[Linus Sebastian]

Hmm.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I'll show you.

[Linus Sebastian]

The WAN show is brought to you today by Vessi Delta Hub Xsplit and Motion Gray. Alongside, of course, our rap partner, dBrand, our laptop partner, Razer, and our chair partner, Razer, who, if they thought they were gonna be treated more respectfully than our previous. Wait, was it already upside down? You guys are such trolls. There. It's perfect.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Perfect if you didn't notice and you put it. If you hit the correct.

[Dan]

That way.

[Luke Lafreniere]

That would have been so funny.

[Linus Sebastian]

Almost.

[Luke Lafreniere]

It almost happened. I was so close.

[Linus Sebastian]

All right, why don't we.

[Luke Lafreniere]

That intro was amazing. Who made that?

[Linus Sebastian]

I actually don't know. I would assume it was no key.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I assumed that as well, but I didn't see like a thing or anything.

[Linus Sebastian]

So why don't we explain what the.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Heck it was not.

[Linus Sebastian]

It was not. Who was it?

[Luke Lafreniere]

I don't know.

[Dan]

It was the team themselves.

[Linus Sebastian]

Really?

[Luke Lafreniere]

Really. That's so cool.

[Linus Sebastian]

Okay, we should explain it. Reboot was a Canadian animated television series that was produced by Vancouver based Mainframe Entertainment alongside Alliance Distribution and BLT Productions. And it originally aired on YTV from 1994 until 2001. That's right. Reboot was my childhood. That's what computer animation looked like when I was a kid.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah, me too.

[Linus Sebastian]

And it's notable for being the first first made for television CGI series with full half hour episodes. Reboot Rewind is an eight part documentary series about the show that came out in 2024. And now the documentarians are collaborating with Mainframe to remaster the series from its original D1 tapes. Okay, this says last Friday because we put off this topic for a couple weeks, but recently the the Reboot Rewind team put out an update video on the progress of the D1 tapes being recorded and Sven gave me the TL Dr. Every episode has been captured off the D1 tapes, which was non trivial. BTS machines are being used to capture the footage at the original 576p. And LTT has actually been helping with this project for like two years now, supplying kioxia drives for storing the footage and as well as helping pay for some of the machines and parts of the machines. See, there was a big challenge getting even a single functioning working machine to read these tapes because media production moves so fast that no one's really thinking about how we're going to preserve all of this stuff. And in the early days of computer animation and digital production, the standards were hardly even standards and they didn't last very long and they weren't interoperable. So this.

[Luke Lafreniere]

And when the when the like manufacturing pipeline for making these things goes away, it's actually extremely difficult in some cases to like make bespoke parts for these things. So needing to source stuff was rather difficult.

[Linus Sebastian]

So we should have a video coming out in 2026 on LTT about this project. It's been literally years in the making. Now and then at the end of the video, the Reboot rewind host men, they happen to also have the D1 tapes for Transformers, Beast wars, aka Beasties as it was known in Canada, along with other cool old CGI shows that Mainframe Studios worked on. And they're trying to get in touch with people about remastering that stuff as well, Shout out to Brian. He's the one doing a lot of the hard work to restore each episode, which is being meticulously checked for transfer errors and mastering glitches.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Awesome.

[Linus Sebastian]

They also did the fun intro for today's episode. There you go.

[Luke Lafreniere]

That was sick. That was very cool.

[Linus Sebastian]

Also, Sven told me that the reboot rewind folks shared some restored cutscenes from a reboot PS1 game, which is linked above. People will go nuts for these animated cutscenes because they've never been seen in better than PlayStation 1 FMV quality. Seriously. Okay, that's pretty cool.

[Luke Lafreniere]

That is pretty cool.

[Linus Sebastian]

That's pretty cool. Oh, my God. That looks. That looks clean, dude. Holy crap.

[Luke Lafreniere]

We had a give and take relationship. She gave me the power to control the tears and I took her life.

[Linus Sebastian]

And next time the Guardian will be so fortunate.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Here's the hexie.

[Linus Sebastian]

Now, now, Hex.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Let's not be petty. Accidents can happen.

[Linus Sebastian]

It. Is the countdown to chaos.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Damn, dude, doing this stuff back then was so crazy.

[Linus Sebastian]

I know, right? Oh, that is so cool. Anyway, discussion question. Talk about, you know, the value of media preservation. What do we do to protect and preserve our work? Not enough. I mean, realistically. Oh man, I feel like everyone probably feels like this in the moment. I was about to say, realistically, I don't think it matters that much. But then, like, someone's gonna want some reference for even something as simple as how well received was this GPU at that time. And if we don't keep the media from that time, then we don't have it. It's that simple. Yeah, and I think that's how a lot of things get forgotten. But I got to tell you, like, when you're in the thick of it, it's hard to. It's hard to think about these things. Why don't we move on to our next big topic, which is, of course, sorry, I'm looking for good news.

[Luke Lafreniere]

We had. We started with good news.

[Linus Sebastian]

We did.

[Luke Lafreniere]

That was good news. We could do bad news.

[Linus Sebastian]

You know what? No, no. Let's do a little bit more moderate news.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Okay.

[Linus Sebastian]

There is a potential workaround for expensive hardware. Older hardware. The Ryzen 7 5800X, an AMD CPU from like five years ago has just hit the number one spot as the top selling CPU on Amazon in the UK. And. And even older CPUs or even older GPUs, like the 5800 XT are sitting at fourth place for GPUs on Amazon in the US eBay is currently flooded with people selling older hardware. CPUs, GPUs, motherboards, and yes of course older DDR4 and even DDR3 memory. And I want to shout out TechSpot here for doing a little article that Luke has actually been bugging us to do something about, which we are actually working on in the background as well. Although a slightly different angle, but doing a little article talking about the usability of slightly older hardware. They showed that if you compare CPUs, they actually tested 44 CPUs and going as far back as the Ryzen 5 2600. In modern games like Battlefield 6, you. You can still achieve a more than playable experience at 1080p high. And I think this is a really important thing for people to consider right now. It's like this is not really our discussion question is not really a question. It's more of a statement. You don't need to buy new expensive hardware, dude.

[Luke Lafreniere]

One of my buddies from high school, his son is currently running. I might get some of the specs wrong, sorry, but I think it's like 8 gigs of RAM, maybe 16, but I think it's 8. A GTX 1080 and a 7000 series intel processor. And he plays whatever that Riot game shooter is. Valorant and Arc Raiders. And he was saying in Arc Raiders he was getting over 80 FPS just like, dude, these are, these are ancient pieces of hardware at this point. The 1080 doesn't even have like official continual driver support. But like, I don't know, whatever. If it plays the game that you want to play at at like 80 something FPS, why not?

[Linus Sebastian]

And like, do I love spending a hundred dollars on old GPU?

[Luke Lafreniere]

Like that old GPU?

[Linus Sebastian]

No, I don't love that.

[Luke Lafreniere]

But it's also 100 bucks.

[Linus Sebastian]

But it's also a hundred bucks.

[Luke Lafreniere]

And there might be a better. I'm not. This isn't a suggestion. That's just a, a rig that I know of that's running.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah, no, 100%. And here's the thing too is like I can totally understand people not wanting, you know, know, like being frustrated to hear like, are you basically just, you know, telling me that, you know, two dolls ought to be enough for, for a child. They don't need 10 dolls or 20 dolls or whatever that ridiculous thing was. No, I'm not saying that at all. I'm saying that channeling your inner scrapyard warrior is a great way to ride out times like this. Like, I guarantee you I don't think I've actually ever asked Luke this, but. But I guarantee you that at some point he built a stopgap system.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Sure.

[Linus Sebastian]

Something to tide you over while you waited for something else to be more affordable or something else to release or when you were in between selling your last generation GPU and waiting for a deal on a new generation one or whatever.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I mean, I had like. I think I've told you about this before where I. I was able to buy a platform upgrade through the intel retail Edge program, but I couldn't afford the rest of the upgrade for like, I think it was like half a year or something. And one of the ways that I was able to afford it was I sold my old platform and my old case. But that meant that I didn't have a case. I got the new platform, I didn't have a case. So I got this like hand me down case. But the power button didn't work. So I set up like a rubber band button bow basically. And a pencil.

[Linus Sebastian]

Nice.

[Luke Lafreniere]

That was so I could reach under my monitor and poke the pencil and it would press the. The on motherboard power button to turn the system on. And I had that for at least half a year.

[Linus Sebastian]

Nice.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Whatever. Who cares?

[Linus Sebastian]

And that's totally. I think stuff like that's cool and that's totally fine. Making stuff work is, is cool. When did that not be.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I thought it was fun.

[Linus Sebastian]

When did that not be cool?

[Luke Lafreniere]

I almost always. For a long time there. I. I apparently don't build my own computers anymore because the last two that I've had, either you or your kids have built. But actually last three, because there was a revision in that one case. So last three, I mean, I had a little bit to deal with the one in the middle, but still. But before then I would always include one thing that was just like a weird solution because I thought it was fun. Like there was one time I mounted my pump on a cutout piece of the mud flap of my old car to use as like sound deadening. So it was on this like rubber panel instead of a plastic panel in the case because it made. It was just quieter and it worked and it was awesome. And I like that part. So don't, don't like feel bad about doing things like that. I've always thought that's super cool.

[Linus Sebastian]

And something that's really important to note about stopgapping is that it can even. It can even. It can, it can help. It might feel like, well, I'm buying something that is going to like go down in value and, and effectively like waste a bunch of my money instead of the thing I actually wanted. So I might be better off just getting the thing I wanted. But let me show you guys just some interesting math here, right? So a 1080 you can acquire pretty easily for about $100. And if you don't feel like paying shipping on it, don't pay 200 bucks for one. Yeah, do not pay $200 if you don't feel like paying shipping on it or you worry that something that you buy on ebay might not be working. Luke and I have both tested GPUs that we've purchased on local marketplaces live, like, test it, make sure that it actually works. And the thing about an older GPU like this is that it's already gotten very low on its depreciation curve.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Someone in Full Play chat earlier said 1080s have been around $100 for years.

[Linus Sebastian]

Now if we go back to like a GTX 780, okay, here we go. Those are still like 45 bucks, you know, 25 bucks, $70, whatever there. That. And that's a two generation older card, right? Like wrap your brain around that, you could stop gap with this 1080 for three or four years and it might lose another 50 to $75 in value. Whereas if you could wait a year, or you could wait a year and a half on a current generation card, the second that gets replaced by something, I guarantee you that you will gain more by just delaying that purchase than you lost by acquiring that stopgap card and then just reselling it. Like it's. I don't know, man. I don't know what to tell you. It's. It's kind of a frustrating thing because you know how we often have that conversation where it feels like there's this pressure from certain corners of the community for us to be more outraged, for us to like demand that Nvidia lower their prices. As if they're going to listen to us.

[Luke Lafreniere]

And I mean, I wish they would. Obviously prices are too high and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

[Linus Sebastian]

And that's. And that's all true. But at the end of the day, I mean, we did that video recently explaining that it's not just Nvidia. I mean, Nvidia has. Nvidia is a very profitable company, but so is tsmc, who has a monopoly on the manufacture of the chips Nvidia sells. And for that matter, so is asml, who has a monopoly on the machines that TSMC uses to manufacture the chips that Nvidia sells. And Monopolies abound. You're talking about the entire supply chain.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Companies that are holding up nations.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah.

[Luke Lafreniere]

When you get to that scale.

[Linus Sebastian]

And so it's one of those things where it's like, yeah, I could like demand that Nvidia lower their pricing, but I don't have that influence. It's so ironic. Right. Because Influencer is right in my job title and yet I can't influence companies to change their pricing. And our discussion question here is, is it frustrating that it seems to go the other way too? Because for over a decade, you and I have been going yippity yabbity yabbity yakety yakety yakety yak at our audience.

[Luke Lafreniere]

That is what we sound like going.

[Linus Sebastian]

Hey guys, you know, you don't have to buy a brand new one. The second hand market exists. Making do with something scrappier is, is honorable and based.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Scrapyard Wars.

[Linus Sebastian]

And it doesn't, and it doesn't even seem to mean anything. No.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Some people get it though. Some people do get it. Every once in a while you'll see a post on the, on the subreddit where someone's like, I did my own Scrapyard wars and I came up with this or whatever. Those are big moments for me.

[Linus Sebastian]

I genuinely love that. This was one that was.

[Luke Lafreniere]

You're never going to hit everybody.

[Linus Sebastian]

I know, I know.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Okay.

[Linus Sebastian]

This was one that was frustrating for me. This, this video bombed out of the gate like it was. It's done okay in the longer. Which is, which is heartening. It's whatever the opposite of disheartening is.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I remember this having issues out the gate though. I do remember that.

[Linus Sebastian]

But you know what? In spite of it having issues out of the gate, this video about, you know, scrapyard warring, like a Facebook marketplace home theater setup for a fraction of the cost of even a crappy sound bar did inspire multiple. Oh, see, that's on the subreddit of people being like, I had no idea. This is so cool. I love my setup now. Thanks for inspiring this.

[Luke Lafreniere]

That's awesome.

[Linus Sebastian]

That's why we do it. That's why we play the game. I, I, I loved it. I'm glad when people get the point.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I also find that you learn a lot more about your craft. Okay, I guess I'll concede that building computers is not quite as easy as adult Lego, but when it's all brand new, out of the box stuff, it is a lot more simple. And you're often dealing with like configurators on websites that are telling you compatibility Things off the hop, all the blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. When you're on the used market, you're trying to price min max. And that often means mixing things together from different sellers in different areas and trying to make sure that everything's going to work. And then trying to learn how to diagnose, like, on the spot. If you can go visit somebody and be like, hey, can I bring a test bench to test this thing? I've done that. A bunch of. And learning what program you should run to try to verify if it's legit on the spot, all those different types of things. You're learning stuff about your craft, which is kind of like fun and cool. I have that old board, by the way, if you want to do. I don't know if you want to do a video on that or what, but the board with the wire repair, it's at my place right now.

[Linus Sebastian]

Okay. Yeah, that's. That's probably an interesting. So from.

[Luke Lafreniere]

From Scratch Wars, Scrapyard Wars, Season four, There was a repair that. I mean, it goes above my head.

[Linus Sebastian]

I'm sure I don't understand.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Watching might understand, but I don't. There's a single wire that runs from one fan header to another fan header on a very specific pin on each, probably power. But if that wire isn't bridging those two fan headers, it doesn't work. And if it is, then it works perfectly fine and has worked perfectly fine for years. Like, in some cases, acting as like a 24.7server for like, months at a time and stuff. Like, no issues. Just as long as this. This wire is bridging these two van Etters.

[Linus Sebastian]

And this motherboard made magic smoke at some point. So I. I don't quite. I can't quite fathom it.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Who knows? But stuff like. That's awesome. Like, I. That gets me way more jazzed up than, like, some random new motherboard. What's up?

[Linus Sebastian]

I can tell.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Oh.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Anyways, off that topic.

[Linus Sebastian]

What are we supposed to be doing? Dan, how's it going over there? He's chill. He's chill. He's relaxing.

[Luke Lafreniere]

He's five and out. Christmas energy, strong headline topic is technically the thing.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah, probably that. It's not ominous. How do you want to approach this?

[Luke Lafreniere]

I mean, you're the one that keeps trying to let the cat out of the bag.

[Linus Sebastian]

I'm not about cats getting out of bags. I keep cats in bags. I'm like a cat bag kind of guy.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I don't think so. You leak a lot of stuff on Land Show I mean, I don't know if you can.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah, but I keep all my cats in bags.

[Luke Lafreniere]

You use the proportional argument. There's so many things to leak.

[Linus Sebastian]

I thought you meant literal. I thought you meant. Yeah, no, okay, sure. Figuratively.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yes.

[Linus Sebastian]

I let a lot of cats out of bed. All of my actual cats are in a bag right now.

[Dan]

Oh, wow.

[Linus Sebastian]

All together. Yeah. No.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I braced for the clarification. It's sad that it had to happen, but it did have to happen.

[Linus Sebastian]

The WAN show is officially, as of yesterday, under new management.

[Luke Lafreniere]

What?

[Linus Sebastian]

Well, not really under new management, actually. The management is the same, but the ownership is different. This is a pretty major change going forward. But I have. I don't know. I don't know what you would call it, but I have abdicated half of my ownership stake of the WAN show.

[Luke Lafreniere]

People are saying sold out to Mr.

[Linus Sebastian]

Sellout, Mr. Luke La Frontiere.

[Luke Lafreniere]

He sold out to me.

[Linus Sebastian]

It's official. The WAN show is a 5050 partnership between me and Luke. We have. We have. What's it called? We've incorporated a new media holding company, Adequate Media, Inc. Which owns the WAN Show. So technically, my half of it is actually owned by me and Yvonne because we are one person from a legal standpoint. So we own half of the WAN show, and then Luke officially owns the other half of the WAN show. We've had a lot of questions over the years about, you know, what is Luke's equity stake and this and that. And the answer has always been Linus Media Group was founded and seeded by me and Yvonne, and we've owned it 100%. But the Wan show clearly has two people in its soul, and one of them is this guy. I think that. I think that for the WAN show to continue to be the WAN show forever, the only right way to safeguard its future was to have it be a Linus Luke equal partnership. So the change, then, the big change is that the WAN show is safe and that the WAN show will not change.

[Luke Lafreniere]

That's the big change?

[Linus Sebastian]

Well, it is a big change.

[Luke Lafreniere]

The WAN show was unsafe.

[Linus Sebastian]

Well, no, I mean it.

[Luke Lafreniere]

That it's not a change.

[Linus Sebastian]

You and I have talked about it, right? That, you know, if you took a position somewhere else or that if I retired from making daily tech tips, videos or whatever, we'd still want to do that. We wanted to continue to do the WAN show. But that agreement, right, it's verbal, it's handshake, it's. You know, we're. We're friends, but it's not codified. It's not in black and white.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah.

[Linus Sebastian]

There's no actual, there's no guarantee that we'll be able to put together the correct financial incentives to ensure that. Whereas now it's very clear.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah. And I mean there's still like some people are saying like oh, it shouldn't be 5050 because someone should always be able to make decisions and stuff. I'm like, yeah, I mean it's still kind of in Linus's hands. If we're being real about things. He still owns Linus Media Group. The people who basically like run WAN show operations wise are LTT people, LMG people, etc. This is not like. Yeah. However it's very cool symbolically.

[Linus Sebastian]

That's today. I don't know what, I don't know.

[Luke Lafreniere]

What our however many structures because when we've been talking about WAN show futures, we've been talking about like that we want to keep doing this in like 20 years plus. So this is a step towards it being reasonable to do this in 20 years.

[Linus Sebastian]

Exactly. For today, what will probably happen is there will be an agreement between Adequate Media Inc. And Linus Media Group that Adequate Media Inc. Will promote products and services like Floatplane or Creator warehouse or whatever and then Linus Media Group will find sponsorships. And realistically, Luke is still employed as an employee of Floatplane and Linus Media Group and all that stuff. So for today there's no change. But for a potential future where who knows what happens, this ensures that there's a strong incentive. That's not. I mean it's not just financial too. Right. Like Luke called it symbolic, but I think it's more than just symbolic. I think it's, I think it's.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Well there's the non financial part of it. Right?

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Do we talk about that?

[Linus Sebastian]

I mean, sure. I'm not sure exactly what you're referring to, so go for it.

[Luke Lafreniere]

The, the, the agreement that you're just talking about of like the services and whatnot are supposed to balance things out. So this isn't like a. I'm not like looting lmg.

[Linus Sebastian]

No, no. And, and the idea behind it is that that would never happen. And the only time that, the only time that any of this would matter would be if there was a major change to the status quo. We're just trying to get out ahead of it and make sure that everyone's on the same page that we want to make sure that WAN show can continue forward for indefinitely basically however long.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yep. Keep the streak alive.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah. So like effectively nothing is really changing, honestly, internally or externally.

[Linus Sebastian]

However, starting soon we will start streaming the WAN show on a different channel and. And on the LTT channel. And then over time we will eventually some point stop streaming the WAN show on the LTT channel and it will move to a dedicated channel. Either we will take over the LMG Clips channel or we will create a new channel. So you guys will have to go subscribe to a new channel in order to get your notification for the WAN show live stream and find the VODs and all that. Stay the path asks what about on floatplane? Don't worry, Floatplane streaming is not going anywhere. For better or for worse. Sorry Luke.

[Luke Lafreniere]

We were close. No, yeah, we'll keep going here.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah.

[Linus Sebastian]

Okay. Does there any. Is there anything else? Did people have any kinds of like questions. A lot of people asking how this works for Dan. Dan still works for Linus Media Group. He is incredible, incredibly valued member of the team. But from like a you know there at the beginning standpoint that, that, that was Luke at this time. But I. You know what? I really appreciate the community's love of Dan. Float plane chat is Dan. They. What can I say? They. They love you. They love you.

[Dan]

Yeah, I'm here too.

[Linus Sebastian]

All right, should we. Should we move on to our next topic? We've. This is three topics we've done now. But yeah, Dan doesn't listen to the show so what does he care Topics don't care topics don't care about your feelings.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Should we talk about drones?

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah.

[Luke Lafreniere]

U.S. the. The U.S. blacklist new foreign made drones from entering marketplace.

[Linus Sebastian]

No. Oh yeah, the market. Like basically you can't sell non. Yeah. New non US made drones cannot be sold.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I guess not saying the marketplace makes it sound like Facebook. Yeah, yeah. No, it's just the marketplace in general. The FCC has announced a ban on new foreign made drones and critical drone components, citing national security concerns which as an aside kind of makes sense. A move that will heavily impact DJI rather specifically which dominates the US drone market. The ruling blocks companies like DJI and Autel Robotics from introducing new drones in the US through existing models, though existing models are not affected for now. The FCC says foreign made drones could enable surveillance data exfiltration and disruptive attacks, arguing that all future UAS which is just basically UAV but it's system instead of vehicle. All future UAS hardware should be manufactured domestically to reduce risk.

[Linus Sebastian]

And these are not entirely ridiculous sentiments.

[Luke Lafreniere]

No. Drone pilots and commercial operators have pushed back hard warning there are no real alternatives to DJI's affordability and capability. Industry groups Say many businesses could shut down without access to DJI hardware. While DJI itself calls the ban anti competitive and claims multiple reviews have found its products secure. It's, I mean it's definitely anti competitive. And there are downsides, major downsides for that. There's that whole thing where like China encouraged Tesla to come into their market to push their own players to be more competitive. Basically like invite the big dog in to, to get your people to act up. Clearly DJI is already in the states and people are saying there is no alternative. So that's not exactly working stateside.

[Linus Sebastian]

So I had a chat with my brother in law. I've talked about him before for this is the company that he works for. It's pretty cool by the way. They're basically, they're, they're building a platform that is designed for individual drone operators to be incentivized. You can actually kind of see it in this visual here. Be incentivized to capture high resolution drone imagery for global mapping. And not just like mapping like, like, like Google Maps, but more like the kinds of high detail models of our cities and the world that could be used for things like mineral exploration or for. One of the ones that he brought up for me was like firefighting. There's all kinds of cool stuff that you cannot do without a, a high, high resolution map. And there currently is not a practical way to capture that that isn't just flying drones with high resolution cameras over every square inch of the globe and then ingesting all of that data and making it accessible. So that's the, that's the challenge that they're working on solving. And yeah, yeah, Elanor says Spec C is crowdsourced gis, which is honestly so cool, except like, except like even better, it's really, really cool tech. Anyway, the point is that, you know, when this announcement hit, he and I were actually on a beach in Cabo and his phone just like, because of this, started exploding because like their entire industry is sitting there going, what do we do now? Yeah, okay, so we're supposed to use a domestic drone. What? Domestic drone? What are you even talking about? Yeah, okay, well, guess what? Just like it always is, there's a, there's a political, there's a political angle to it.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Oh, is there like some company?

[Linus Sebastian]

Is there some company?

[Luke Lafreniere]

Oh.

[Linus Sebastian]

Oh my God. I'm trying to, to use your website. This is terrible. Second new board, blah blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah blah blah, advisory board, blah blah, Etc. Drone company. Yeah, of course, of course it is super cool.

[Luke Lafreniere]

That makes sense. Yeah, yeah, I, I definitely if, if we completely ignore that part because like, obviously I don't know the, the. What is it the Donald Trump.

[Linus Sebastian]

It doesn't seem obvious to everyone. It doesn't seem obvious to everyone.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Fair enough. But even if we ignore the clear corruption issues, I understand why they would want to do something like this. Yeah, future warfare, like even if you look just within the confines of the Ukraine war. Oh yeah, future warfare has completely changed and it is extremely drone based at this point. And if you don't have domestic drones and if you're like, yeah, our entire domestic drone industries actually just the ji. I can totally understand why that would be very concerning. I think there are other ways to solve this. I think there are ways to incentivize, you know, like stateside drone companies, trade side drone manufacturing without just banning competition. But I can understand why from a defense perspective, you would want to make sure that you're protecting, not necessarily banning competition, but protecting your own drone manufacturing. I think there's a variety of ways to do that that aren't banning it. The only thing I'm saying is that I understand why they're doing this, not that I necessarily agree with it. Yeah, I think, you know, subsidizing, promoting, doing something to push local drone manufacturing and research would be a good idea instead of, you know, banning competition and then setting up your, your family member for an alley.

[Linus Sebastian]

Oops.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Nepotism is pretty cool though, I guess. Anyways, next topic.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah, I mean, I don't know, I feel like I might have had a. No, I guess I don't really have any more, anything more to say about that. We'll, we'll see how it goes. It's going to drive up the price of existing models for sure. It's going to, it's going to cause a delay in the, in the quality of available drones in the US Compared to other markets where DJI will continue to export and continue to innovate.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah, the mass manufacturing will be the problem. People have been able to make drones at home for a long time. I do kind of wonder what this will look like for parts. Did it, did it mention parts in here? Drone market?

[Linus Sebastian]

Okay, yeah. So critical parts. It doesn't just include parts of the FPV community is like losing their minds to too because even it's not full.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Drones, it is drones and parts is what you're saying.

[Linus Sebastian]

And critical parts.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah. So it's like where are you going to get like a. Your US made processors and motors and everything?

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah. That's, that's like years out, I think, at the least.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah, well, we'll see how it goes.

[Luke Lafreniere]

If kind of ever. That'll be interesting.

[Linus Sebastian]

We'll see how it goes, man. Actually, this is a, this is a good question. Is this gonna be, Is this gonna be as good as the. Is the, Is the Trump backed drone company gonna be as good as the Trump phone? Did that thing ever get. Did that thing ever get delivered? Let's have a look here.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Oh, yeah, it exists today. What is this?

[Linus Sebastian]

Okay. Yeah. First ever smartphone is delayed and the government shutdown is to blame. Oh, okay.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Oh, nice. That's good. That makes sense.

[Linus Sebastian]

Why does that make sense? What would that have had to do with anything? Same coverage as the, as the. Whatever. Okay. Yeah. So they're still pretending that this is gonna be a thing. Is there still anything on here about it being like made in the USA or is that, is that gone now? Because at the beginning it really was built for people who expect more. Okay. It seems like they have removed. They've removed anything about it being American made.

[Luke Lafreniere]

So it looks like there are some.

[Linus Sebastian]

Designed with American values in mind.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Well, I get not.

[Linus Sebastian]

So they have a refurbished S20. Oh, they have additional phones now. They have refurbished phones. And then. Okay, proudly American. What does that mean? Designed with American values in mind, with American hands behind every device. It is amazing how much you can pretend to say something and not say it. It's brought to life here in the usa. That doesn't. American proud design. None of that says or means made in the usa. None of it. Man, I don't even know why they care. I don't even know why they bother to pretend because it's not like anyone's enforcing anything anyway, so they might as well just say it's made in America at this point.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Someone linked this list. Yeah, the blue list. It's a cleared list of drones, but it says specifically it's a cleared list for drones. Approved for Dow, which I think is Department of War because they renamed Department of Defense.

[Linus Sebastian]

Sure.

[Luke Lafreniere]

And there's like there are skydio drones and other various things on here, but I don't, I don't know if this is consumer cleared or if this is just Department of War cleared. I'm unsure. This is great.

[Linus Sebastian]

Kitty. Kitty says don't try to understand the grift. It's just a grift. It's like closely inspecting a brown paper bag on your doorstep. You already know what it is. Oh yeah, that's fair. Comical sort of. Well, we could do A tech house update? Yeah, I was there today. We took possession three days ago and I didn't get a chance to go there until we did our shoot today. So if you haven't been keeping up. There was a video on the LTT channel where we went shopping for a tech house. And the idea behind it was pretty straightforward. We've done a lot of kind of upgrades in my house to the point where my house is fine and we don't. Oh, yeah.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Are your auto lights fine?

[Linus Sebastian]

Well, no, but that will fix actually Innovelli's shipment of new lights with millimeter wave detection that are going to be way better. And I'm really excited about. Have lots of fixes compared to the ones I'm using now. Is like in customs clearance right now. Like, I am stoked to finally have the lighting experience that I promised my family years ago. Anyway, that's besides the point right now. The point is we don't need to make another video of Linus upgrades his living room TV every other month. My. My living room TV is fine. And so this tech house is going to give us kind of like a. It's almost like a test bench. It's like the computer test bench of not just smart home stuff. Because I think there's kind of a limited audience for people who are interested in home automation, but also just practical deployments of technology, whether it's computers or TVs or audio equipment or. I mean. Okay. Do you remember that video that you did years ago on using a projector for like, tabletop gaming?

[Luke Lafreniere]

Oh, whoa. Okay.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah. Okay.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Bit of a. Bit of a deep cut.

[Linus Sebastian]

What would.

[Luke Lafreniere]

What?

[Linus Sebastian]

What? I wasn't trying. I'm not trying to cut anybody.

[Luke Lafreniere]

No, no. Deep cut means like an old reference.

[Linus Sebastian]

I don't think it does.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I think it does.

[Linus Sebastian]

No, I think it means like. Like a wound.

[Luke Lafreniere]

What am I trying to think of then?

[Linus Sebastian]

I don't know. Bit of a deep cut refers to a significant wound that might need medical attention.

[Luke Lafreniere]

No, like, the whole chat is saying that I'm right.

[Linus Sebastian]

Luke does know this one. Really?

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah, it's just slang.

[Linus Sebastian]

Oh, okay. I thought. I thought it's like. I thought it was like a. Like a. Like a stab. Don't twist like, that's a bit of a deep. That's a bit of a deep cut.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I'm sure it is also used for that.

[Linus Sebastian]

Okay. Bit of a deep cut. Slang meaning on the record, a deep cut is a song judged to be less commercial or radio friendly.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I like genuinely the entire chat there's got to be something to it.

[Linus Sebastian]

Urban dictionary is Boomer Dictionary. At this point, only true fans of said artist will enjoy or know. Okay. Song obscure work. Okay, well, that's clearly closer to your definition than it is to mine, so. Sure, sure. Yeah.

[Luke Lafreniere]

But you're also on Boomer Dictionary. Anyway, it's just. It's just I don't think that video like did well and it's super old.

[Linus Sebastian]

Oh, yeah.

[Luke Lafreniere]

So it's just a surprise. I don't even know what I would type in to search for it.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah, don't worry about it. The point is that like, we. We want to. We want to use this place as an opportunity to talk about building a sick tabletop gaming space.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Sweet.

[Linus Sebastian]

Or building a super cool dude.

[Luke Lafreniere]

There's a lot of really cool stuff you can do these days.

[Linus Sebastian]

Oh, I know.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Projector game thing has been like, very leveled up. There's. There's some really awesome stuff you can do.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah. And so. So pretty much what we were looking for was a place with really good bones and with reasonable ease of use for upgrading them because. Okay, yeah. It might have been more realistic for us to find a place that didn't have a crawl space, for instance.

[Dan]

Right.

[Linus Sebastian]

That we were going to be ripping off drywall for absolutely every single wire. We were going to run stuff like that. Right. But that's not. We're not a home renovation channel. This is our first kind of kick at this can. We wanted something that we could. We wanted something to cut our teeth on. So we got a place that not only has a really nice crawl space under the entire main floor, which is sick.

[Luke Lafreniere]

That'll be sick for doing this type of stuff.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah, it's. It's not tall. Like, in order for me to get down there, I have to be completely almost like. Like butt down to the ground. And it's like here. So you're pretty much crawling. It's a literal crawl space.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Good name.

[Linus Sebastian]

But it also has a. It has a little like, I think it's called a dormer. Like it has one room that's on the second story in. In the front. And we're gonna. We're thinking we're gonna convert that to like a media room. And then it has a couple little crawl pathways along the side of that as well. So it's got really, really good access to getting fishing wiring down or up into wall spaces. And it's actually. This video is gonna be really fun because in the first one we just kind of do a high level overview because we're just touring it because we were shopping. Whereas in this one we really start digging into some of the really weird stuff the previous owner did. Like he was obviously in a different way, a pretty techie guy. Okay. One of the bedrooms has, I kid you not, three RJ eleven jacks in it. There's also like, like, like a phone line. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. There's also an RJ11 jack next to the toilet.

[Luke Lafreniere]

No. Okay. That, that, that was a thing. Very odd. But yeah, that was a thing. I've always thought. That's weird. Yeah. To have a. Like. What happened to my. You just unplugged my head.

[Linus Sebastian]

Oh, sorry. I'm fidgeting.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Oh man. No, to have like a, a phone in your bathroom. Oh man. What happened? It's fine, don't worry. But. Oh, that we're good.

[Linus Sebastian]

The wan. Show quality is not going to get better as a result of any of this. Just so you.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah, yeah. Toilet phones were, were a thing for sure. I, I always thought it's kind of pretty unsanitary personally.

[Linus Sebastian]

Sure.

[Luke Lafreniere]

But you're just putting it on your face.

[Linus Sebastian]

I get it there.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah, sure. But it's the three in the bedroom that's interesting.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah. I couldn't quite wrap my brain around it. He had a CD player in his kitchen, which I thought was pretty cool. Nice, man. There's. Oh my God.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I swear wasn't there like I think I saw in the video you could like play music throughout the house on like the, on that CD player?

[Linus Sebastian]

I think so.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah.

[Linus Sebastian]

One out of every three. Like, like duplex receptacles, like power outlets. Had one of those six gang ones like bolted onto it. He was a major fan of power strips and extension cords. Like he had that. He had an interesting system where you could only run either the dryer, the clothes dryer or you could run this extension cord 240 volt outlet that he had just like coiled up using in wall wire and just like into an octagonal box like thing that he had in his garage. So he had like a 240 volt extension cord in his garage that you could not run at the same time as the dryer.

[Luke Lafreniere]

And he had a kind of sick.

[Linus Sebastian]

Assign above the dryer in German not to roll run it at the same time as the one in the garage.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Kind of sick.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah, like it's a.

[Luke Lafreniere]

It's honestly like people are saying that sounds bad. I don't know enough about that being like dangerous or not, but it sounds pretty great.

[Linus Sebastian]

Oh, it's, it's. Let me put it this Way. I think this guy's idea of safety first was the four fire extinguishers that he had in his garage. Rather than just, I don't know, not starting a fire in the first place, like, he would just. You'd be like, yeah, I'd love to have a cable outside the house. So I'm gonna just take a big, long drill bit and go through the wall. Like, that was his way. And he's got, like, a shed in the back. He had a bit of an infestation. So we found that in the inspection report, which Colton did not share with me until after we.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I mean, a lot of the places.

[Linus Sebastian]

Around here bought it and took possession. So anyway, it's in Alberta. Yeah. Infestation. Major infestation. His solution was these little noisemakers that you plug into. Yeah. They were, like, everywhere.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Noisemakers.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah.

[Luke Lafreniere]

It didn't.

[Linus Sebastian]

Didn't help, obviously. Yeah. So I'm kind of thinking tech house cat. We just get a pet and keep it there, and then that'll take care of it. Colton doesn't want to do that, though. He wants to, like, hire an exterminator. I think that's so dumb. I think a cat would take care of any rodent issues around this house. Like, quick styles. Dude, I don't. I don't see. Oh, I shouldn't say that. I have seen mice in my house.

[Luke Lafreniere]

They were dead or in a fish tank thing.

[Linus Sebastian]

Okay, well, yeah, yeah, yeah. Those were pets, sort of. It was complicated. They're temporary pets, and eventually they were dead. So the system clearly works.

[Luke Lafreniere]

It did. It worked exceptionally well. In that case. Yeah.

[Linus Sebastian]

Linus just wants another cat. I mean. Yeah, another cat's not a bad thing. I'm trying to think what. What else is there to say about it? Oh, there were some other things that were found in the inspection report that I found out about today.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Are you saying those.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah, sure.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Apparently there's particularly bad.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah. You know about the foundation issue.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah.

[Linus Sebastian]

Foundation and drainage issues, so.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Oh, I didn't know about the drainage one, too. I mean, usually they. As far as my understanding goes, they often go hand in hand, but. Yikes.

[Linus Sebastian]

So I guess we're going to have to. I guess we're going to have to figure that out. But, dude, I'm. I'm excited.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Does sound like bought a house in Vancouver Vibes. Not Vancouver, but I'm saying that for.

[Linus Sebastian]

The greater Vancouver area.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah. The public audience. But this is sort of how it goes. A lot of them have infestations. A lot of them are old and have foundational problems.

[Linus Sebastian]

A lot of them have previous owners who just kind of yoload stuff.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Oh, yeah, there's a lot of that.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah. Unlike Australia, where it's like, apparently illegal to make improvements to your own house if you're not certified. You know about this? You don't know about this. That's the thing.

[Luke Lafreniere]

That sounds annoying.

[Linus Sebastian]

Well, yeah, but the flip side is that I bet they probably don't have stuff like we saw in this house.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I mean, their housing market is just wrecked.

[Linus Sebastian]

So, I mean, so Australia. So, yeah, there's that. Yeah, maybe I misunderstood that. Anyone, Anyone from upside down land can. Can verify for me. Anybody? Anybody? Bueller, Dylan KA says I have an illegal back deck in Oz. Didn't get council approval. Apparently electrical is a no, no. Yeah, says old Tom. There you go. 100% true in some ways. Okay. Yeah, there you go. Me, Gore says, would you trust a criminal to fix their own home? They're not all criminals. They're just descended from them. Total different. Totally different ball game. Okay. I don't believe in the sins of the father, okay? That's not how this works. So, dude, this place is, like, downright scary some of it. Like, I found this box, this like, rotten box in the backyard that just had an outlet in it that there's no way that it was watertight. And that outlet had one of those freaking six outlet things. Oh, no, this in the yard. Like, why? He didn't even have more than one thing plugged into it. So why? Why? He just. He just put them everywhere. Just put them on everything. It's like, oh, God, no, please stop.

[Luke Lafreniere]

He just really liked his power.

[Linus Sebastian]

I think James said that he had two built ax. One that ran to like a couple spots and then one that was running somewhere else. I didn't actually verify that. I didn't. I didn't double check that because it didn't make any sense to me. But maybe he's right. Maybe he's right. I don't know.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah, we'll see.

[Linus Sebastian]

It's going to be cool, though. It's going to be. I think it's going to be a lot of fun. I. As I was walking around, half of me was really excited about all the cool projects that we can do. And then the other half of me was like, oh, God, have we bit off more than we can chew? Like, it's obvious that there's a couple little things that they did just to prep the place for sale. They just obviously redid the main bedroom, en suite bathroom. Like, all modern. It Has a sliding barn door entrance.

[Luke Lafreniere]

And it has freaking barn doors.

[Linus Sebastian]

I know. Oh, they're awful.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Why even have a door?

[Linus Sebastian]

They're sewed up. They don't block any sound. They don't block any smell.

[Luke Lafreniere]

It feels like you're declaring that this door will always be open. And then if that's the case, like.

[Linus Sebastian]

Just have it be a pocket door and then we can ignore it or just have it not be a door, I guess. Yeah, that's an option too.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah.

[Linus Sebastian]

You could just be like all those hotel rooms that just don't have a bathroom door because apparently, you know, every couple in the world wants to watch each other's.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah.

[Linus Sebastian]

Which I don't. I don't fully understand. Like, I'm not gonna. I'm not gonna yuck your yum or whatever, but, like, I just don't need it.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yum.

[Linus Sebastian]

So. Yeah. What was I going to say about it? Yeah. Right. So they redid the main en suite bathroom, and it looks so out of place. Like, just completely out of place. They did like, like, Like a granite or marble countertop. And then like this new shower of that David Pankratz was there today. He was like, oh, that's a Costco shower. Okay. Yeah. And then. And so they did that. They put in a bunch of new, like, vinyl plank flooring in some places. And then they just left the, like, pink carpet or whatever it is. It was 90s. It was the 90s. It was a different time. They just left that other places.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Pink carpet was a thing.

[Linus Sebastian]

And then they. But then apparently the inspection report found that it was either the en suite or it was the main floor. Bathtub is just draining directly into the crawl space.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Oh, yeah.

[Linus Sebastian]

So, like, it's completely cosmetic. I found a can of paint in one of the closets that just says all walls. So, like classic. Throw a coat of paint on it, redo the main en suite bathroom, put some vinyl plank down, slap some lipstick on this pig, and get this thing sold. And we bought it.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Nice.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah.

[Luke Lafreniere]

To be fair, I think that was going to be the situation for all of the places that you're looking at at that price point.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah.

[Luke Lafreniere]

More or less.

[Linus Sebastian]

I mean, no, we did find stuff that was not that much more. That was pretty. Move in ready. But we also didn't want something move in ready.

[Luke Lafreniere]

You wanted to work on stuff.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah, we didn't want to go into a place that was perfectly nice.

[Luke Lafreniere]

How much was it? Is that disclosed?

[Linus Sebastian]

Throw it away. A bunch of stuff. I mean, I think people could find it easily enough. So it was actually. I don't know what the final. I don't know what we paid.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Okay.

[Linus Sebastian]

Because I know that we did negotiate because of like oh yeah, your foundation has problems and like that can be.

[Luke Lafreniere]

A pretty big one.

[Linus Sebastian]

And your, and your like drainage has issues and there's all this stuff that's not up to code. Like I think there was a bit of negotiation, but I think the list price was 1.3.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Okay. Yeah. So there's definitely ones that they're there.

[Linus Sebastian]

There's very move in ready stuff.

[Luke Lafreniere]

But this place, I thought it was like pretty lower than that.

[Linus Sebastian]

But this place has a yard which is not a given around here.

[Luke Lafreniere]

No.

[Linus Sebastian]

And it's a, it's like a reasonable sized house.

[Luke Lafreniere]

You'd think with the amount of space Canada has that we would make that a thing, but. Nope.

[Linus Sebastian]

Well, you know, here's the thing, right.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Like are you going to show the map of bc?

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah, I'm going to show. I'm going to show the map of B.C.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Edumi Kate. The masses.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah. So Canada is really big, but also the Mercator projector projection makes it seem a lot bigger than it is if you actually look at like like on a round globe. Okay.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I mean it's still really big though.

[Linus Sebastian]

It's still really big, but it's also like it's not that big. Like remember, remember the news cycle recently that was like hey, does anyone actually know that Africa is like enormous enormous and that Europe is like not because like you know, like Africa is like not that much smaller than like frickin Asia. Like it's frickin huge. Like did anyone, did anyone realize you know any of this? Do anyone know that Brazil is like frickin the size of the US Pretty much? Not, not quite. But like on a Mercator projection map, these things do not look right. Anyway, the point is that while Canada is very large indeed, I'm just gonna go ahead and put the ol.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Mountain.

[Linus Sebastian]

Range terrain on or the top of my gography. So yeah, here's a big part of our problem. There is like one little like this little thing tiny flat part of British Columbia. And then it's just all, it's all just. There's like, there's like a little, there's a little valley here, there's another one here. This one's kind of part of the same one. And then up here is just here be ice dragons basically for all of this. And then yeah, we have some, we have some planes that also are full of ice dragons for half of the year, and then you can kind of. You go south enough that it's livable again for a bit, and then here be mountains again and more ice dragons.

[Luke Lafreniere]

So Canada's actually a lot of ice dragons.

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Linus Sebastian]

Ton of ice dragons. Ah, yeah. Whereas, like, in America, they do. They do have mountains. You know, they have a lot of the same problem as us sort of through this area here, but then they also have just like, oh, wow, look at all this. Like, perfectly flat. Not infested with ice dragons. Land. That is really useful.

[Luke Lafreniere]

A lot of wind dragons.

[Linus Sebastian]

That's true. Definitely wind and. And rain dragons.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah.

[Linus Sebastian]

They got their own kinds of dragons down there.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah.

[Linus Sebastian]

Oh, yeah. I guess we could do that.

[Dan]

So.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah. Excited for Tech House. It's gonna be great. I'm not gonna think about it too much right now because I got CES next week, but I'm gonna get back, and it's gonna be fun. How'd you get out of CES anyway? I.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I was kind of looking at the year and going, like, okay, there's two, like, ces, like, shows that are in heavy contention.

[Linus Sebastian]

Basically, you just want to go to Computex.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah. I'm gonna bring Nick and Lucas, and we're gonna try to go see. I'm trying to talk to some brands. There's a couple brands that are. That are interested in doing this right now, but we want to go see, you know, how we've been doing this, like, kind of tour of testing and validation and performance testing labs. We want to go do that. But also in Taiwan, we want to see how they design and test power supplies, like, at their actual location.

[Linus Sebastian]

Oh, that's cool.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Do different things like that. It's proven a little difficult to get through to companies, but I think it's because we're not super close to Computex, and everybody's focused on CES right now. So hopefully after ces, the. The conversations will kind of prop up. But I was looking at, like, you know, with no sponsor or anything for the labs side, bringing down either myself or myself and two others, which were the two potential plans, and then paying for flight accommodations, all that kind of stuff for a week, what am I going to get out of this event? And it was like, I don't know, I can maybe swing one event for the year.

[Linus Sebastian]

Right.

[Luke Lafreniere]

And if I can tie on these, like, potential brand tours of, like, seeing how these things are performance tested, he's seeing how these things are designed and whatnot to the Computex one, that sounds a lot more valuable. So I'm going That angle also.

[Linus Sebastian]

You just would rather go to Taiwan.

[Luke Lafreniere]

We don't need to discuss that part.

[Linus Sebastian]

Sure. We don't need to discuss it. Because you know and I know that all of that, whatever. That I might hardly even listening to.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Not like Vegas and I might really love Taiwan, but I think that's irrelevant. Really?

[Linus Sebastian]

Really.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I think my other. I might have. I might have constructed a scenario where one makes a lot more sense than the other one.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah. Yeah. I'm pretty sure that was what.

[Luke Lafreniere]

And it might also be very reasonable.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah, it might be a plausible construction. Plausible, you might say.

[Luke Lafreniere]

It might be almost entirely designed to get Nick and Lucas there, because I already had mechanisms to get myself there.

[Linus Sebastian]

Listen, your justification can be whatever it wants to be. I'm not going to crash out about it.

[Luke Lafreniere]

What a segue, dude.

[Linus Sebastian]

And what a first merch drop of the year, the Crash Out T shirt.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah, I guess I can also.

[Linus Sebastian]

There it is, boys. You ever have those moments where for like half a second, throwing your laptop across the room feels like a totally reasonable troubleshooting step? Me too. And that's what this shirt is for. When your patience is basically gone and you're still pushing through it anyway.

[Luke Lafreniere]

It comes in tall.

[Linus Sebastian]

It's printed on our super comfortable blank T shirts and comes in both regular and tall. If this shirt feels uncomfortably relatable for you, you can get yours at lmg GG Crash Out. So here it is on the Global store, also available on the US Store. And it looks a little something like that. Get it in any size you want and any length you want, as long as it's black. What else do we have for the store this week? Ah, yes. This is less of a this product is available and more of a this product is coming extremely soon. Be ready. LTT True spec cables are coming. These cables are crafted with care, built with a strain relief that bends with the cable instead of against it, reducing stress where breakage often happens. We have paired that strain relief with a supple silicone jacket that resists UV damage, kinks and tangles. And the high speed conductors are actually here. Can I bring that up on your screen?

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yep.

[Linus Sebastian]

And the high speed conductors are individually shielded to reduce interference and keep your transfers running. Every connection feels effortless and every performance remains uncompromised. Whatever the second part of that sentence meant. Uncompromised performance. And we feel that the right cable should fit your setup, not the other way around. So whether you need a short run for your desk or a longer reach that goes across the room, we will have an option that will work for you. Each connection type USB A to C and USB C to C comes in 16 thoughtfully chosen speed and length combinations. And every cable is clearly marked. You might want to give them a little zoom on that for speed and power, giving you the confidence to know that the performance you expect is the performance you will get. You can sign up to be notified once these drop at LMG GG cablesignup. Now, it is worth noting that you guys might look at that 15 watts on the one that was on the left and go, well, that seems pretty weak at a time when you can do up to 240 watts on a USB cable. That's because that has a type A connector at one end. And when we say true spec cables, we mean that we are remaining true to the spec. So there are technically products that exist within the USB ecosystem that are not to spec. Extensions, for instance, exist, but from chatting with Tynan about it, they are not spec. Like there is no accounting for the connector losses and, and the, and the losses from the length that we're adding to these cables. When you plug a cable into an extension, you just got to like pray to Thor that it's going to work, because that's about your best shot of ensuring that it's going to. And that doesn't mean that it won't work, it just means that it might not. So we are sticking with whatever the, we're sticking with whatever the maximum official SPECT power and data transfer is within the USB specification for any given length. So what you might notice is that our longer cables, even using the same connectors at the ends, might be rated for a slower data speed. That doesn't mean that you might not get a better data speed if you happen to have, you know, really tolerant devices at either end. But we aren't going to guarantee it. We're all about true spec on these.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I really like the name personally.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah, yeah, I think it makes, I think it makes a ton of. I think it makes a ton of sense. Frosty Kyogre says the markings. Nice. I had to sharpie a label onto my only 10 gigabit per second capable cable. Yeah, right. Like it's so annoying. So that was a big part of where this came from is like in my life I have a thing thousand USB cables, but never the one I actually need in a given moment. And whether it's that they're not rated for a particularly high speed and I'm doing a big transfer and I'm like, oh God, is It faster to go get another cable and restart it or is it faster to just wait for this to finish? I don't know. Or whether you get one of those ones that only has the conductors for charging in it and you like, you plug it into your phone and you're like, is it, is it my phone being weird, like it's not in data transfer mode? Or is, or okay, I'll go get another device. Or is it this cable? I don't. I just want to eliminate uncertainty from my life. So with the LTT cables, I know that whatever I'm holding a type C to type C at this length is whatever the best cable could be for that. And I'm G to G. So this is, this is a longer one. So this is a 20 gigabit per second, 240 watts. Trying to show how long type C. Oh yeah, sure, why not?

[Luke Lafreniere]

I mean it's gonna go.

[Linus Sebastian]

So I think this is what, a six footer or something like that? Looks like it. Oh, maybe a little longer. Yeah. Anyway, this is the one that I carry around for charging my laptop. And it is worth noting that we are not doing thunderbolt cables at this time. So these are all at most USB 4 VGA. VGA? You don't mean like actual VGA, you mean like display cables, right?

[Dan]

Yeah, VGA.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah. So we're. So we are not doing display cables at this time.

[Luke Lafreniere]

See how well these go.

[Linus Sebastian]

I guess we're going to see how we got to. We're. This is something I think people often forget.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Dude, speaking of people often Forgetting, this is 16 SKUs.

[Linus Sebastian]

We are a pretty small company and.

[Luke Lafreniere]

This is 16 SKUs.

[Linus Sebastian]

No, this is 16 lengths for each connector type.

[Dan]

Double it.

[Linus Sebastian]

This is 32 SKUs.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Oh, that doesn't. That isn't what it sounds like. Oh, I understand. For each connection.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah.

[Luke Lafreniere]

All right, so.

[Linus Sebastian]

So what a lot of people forget is that in the grand scheme of things, we are actually still a pretty small company. So we need to, we're dipping our toes in. We're going to start with USB and then we're going to make sure that people actually, you know, care and are willing to pay for, you know, a silicone jacketed, properly shielded, high quality cable. And if people care about that, then we would love to Explore doing HDMI DisplayPort.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I was carrying cables that I stole from Tynan on a bunch of my trips and I'd show it up off all the time and people liked it. It's very nice.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yep. But just because people like it and just because it's very nice. Doesn't mean it will be commercially successful. So we've really just got to wait and we got to see how it goes. And that's how you. That's how you kind of build. That's how you build a business. That's how you build momentum.

[Luke Lafreniere]

What?

[Dan]

Actually got a merch message asking about display cables. Maybe we want to have a look at that one too.

[Linus Sebastian]

Which ones?

[Dan]

Asking about display cables.

[Linus Sebastian]

That's what we were talking about this whole time, Dan.

[Dan]

No, I mean this has more specifics, if you know what I mean.

[Linus Sebastian]

Oh, sure. Yeah. Why don't we do that merch message then if you guys are. Oh, right. So if you want to get notified once these drop, because I can tell you that our initial order quantity, we have no idea which lengths are going to be the big sellers. We went a little tentative on things. So if you want to get what you want to get, go to LMG GG Cable signup. Make sure that you're on the newsletter and you will be notified as soon as these drop. We have taken our time with this. We have done it carefully, done it thoughtfully, and I'm actually really, really proud of this product. I'm very, very excited to launch this.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Super cool.

[Linus Sebastian]

Okay, so, yeah, why don't we. Why don't we do merch messages? If you're not familiar with the show, merch messages are the link way that you interact with it. Instead of just throwing money at your screen, you throw [e-mail], which Luke is going to bring up on his laptop right now, which is of course a Razer laptop. Laptop partner. There you go. Yep, yep. Look, this is what their logo looks like when it's upside down. Anyway, just go ahead, add something to your cart. Maybe our new crash out T shirt. And instead of, yeah, throwing money at your screen, you can throw [e-mail], get quality merchandise in return, and you can leave a merch message. So you just add something to your cart. Go ahead, leave a merch message. You can color code it however you like. You can keep it anonymous. You can show your first name and last initial and then you go ahead and check out. It'll go through to producer Dan, who will reply to it or who will just like put it up down here or who will curate it for me and Luke to talk about. So we'll show you how that works.

[Dan]

Yeah, so I did get one asking about the display cables.

[Linus Sebastian]

Hey there.

[Dan]

You talked about your cables a few shows back and I was wondering what Might or would come earlier. A DisplayPort cable with a chip or an HDMI cable with the fees and development costs and all of that.

[Linus Sebastian]

That is such a good question.

[Luke Lafreniere]

That is a good question.

[Linus Sebastian]

What I suspect is, is that we'd probably get into HDMI with the fees before we would get into a USB cable with a chip. Although this could come down to what our manufacturing partner has more ready to go. Because even though this exact design does not exist elsewhere that we are aware of, because no one would be crazy enough to build a cable like this.

[Luke Lafreniere]

You'Re still working with a.

[Linus Sebastian]

We are still obviously working with a factory that makes cables and they have certain capabilities. And so if they already have a lot of expertise on the Thunderbolt chip side of things, then yeah, doing a Thunderbolt chipped cable might make a ton of sense. Or if they have a ton of experience on the HDMI side, that might make more sense. Tynan's actually been working with them a little bit. Oh, actually, Cat OS is right. We. They do have a chip, but it's. It's not an active cable. So that's the clarification here. Yeah. PD does require it to communicate with devices what its capabilities are.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I do appreciate that Cat OS was like, these are true spec. They say they have a thing that means they have a chip.

[Linus Sebastian]

So when I say chip, I mean a Thunderbolt chip, which we do not have at this time.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Light is wrong again. Headline.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah, I know, right? So it's going to depend on what their capabilities are, and it's also going to depend on what the demand is. Right. Like if every other message coming in is like, hey, love true spec cables. I love the ones that I have. I want HDMI cables, then yeah, maybe. Maybe that'll be something that we'll explore. I would say that the reason that we tackled USB A to C&C2C first is because that's where we see the most value for the true spec product philosophy in Thunderbolt cables. I haven't had the same problems. I haven't had quite the same experience with cables not being what I expect them to be because generally speaking, Thunderbolt cables are quite max spec cables. And same goes for HDMI. There's. It's kind of confusing labeling because, you know, 4K generally means HDMI 1.4, if I recall correctly. And then like 4K 60, I think means 2.0, 4K 120. And then like. Or no, 8K means 2.0. I. Look, the point is they have labeling. It's just like kind of stupid. And a lot of the time you don't even necessarily need the better one because if it's a short enough run, it doesn't really matter. A lot of the time the, the older cables will still like totally work. Other times they won't though. And you'll get like weird cutouts and stuff like that. Like they are digital signals. So I'm, I would never snake oil market these and say like you connect this between your MP3 player or your, you connect between your DAC and your computer and you'll, you'll hear the digital bits better or whatever. That is bullshit.

[Luke Lafreniere]

No, but I've heard like, I think this was in floatplane chat or something. Somebody mentioned that like connecting their laptop and their deck when doing DJing sets with like a good quality cable that they can feel like they can rely on more. Sounds great. It's going to be a better quality connection.

[Linus Sebastian]

No, but knowing that it will work.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Is gonna be thrown in bags and taken back out a bunch of different times. And they, they feel like they can, if they can trust it more, that has a value to them. Like that's cool. That's a, a like fairly mission critical connection that I might understand someone investing more in.

[Linus Sebastian]

And to be clear, they're not magic, right? Like this is still a 2 spec USB C connector at the end. Like if it, if it plugged into something and you, and, and you don't put any strain relief and you let like 4ft of this cable dangle off of it like it's. Yeah, it's gonna eventually bend, it'll wear out. Don't be an idiot with your stuff, right? But we've built it to be as robust as we can possibly, make it as bulletproof as we can possibly.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Theoretically. There's still gonna be something that'll fail and yada yada yada. It's like any product I know, they feel nice.

[Linus Sebastian]

And I have been told that there are cases where a digital cable can be used for analog purposes. And there was someone who is super into ham radio at that event that we were at. Do you remember the, the LAN at the LAN at the gaming house. Yeah, yeah. So there was someone there that was really into ham radio and basically when.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Oh yeah, I remember this.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah, we use USB cables because of convenience or something, but we're actually transferring analog.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah, I didn't understand that at all. But they seemed like they knew what.

[Linus Sebastian]

They were talking about. I and so I basically was like, okay. And he was like, yeah, I will be the first one in Line to buy a bunch of these because those sound awesome. Yeah. As soon as I was talking about the. The highspeed lines being individually shielded in there. So that's why she's. That's why she's such a thick boy. Right? Like, that's. That's a thick cable. We're not selling this as some kind of, like, convenient lightweight, you know, it.

[Luke Lafreniere]

No, it is. I. I've used it for, like, charging my phone in my pocket with a battery bank. That is a questionable use case for this cable, to be honest.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah, she's heavy.

[Luke Lafreniere]

You know, at the time, it was just what I had, but, like, it's not the best for that. You kind of want somewhat of a junky cable to do that job, to be honest, because you want something little small and light and twistable, and then.

[Linus Sebastian]

You'Ll throw it away in a month or a couple months because it will wear out and be a piece of junk.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Or you'll just lose it because you don't really care. That's usually my problem.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah. Yeah, that's another one. Okay, so mystery man 321 in float plane chat says, my dad does ham radio, and he transmits a lot of his ham frequencies over VoIP. He would have loved these. Okay, so.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah, I don't know how that. Oh, okay. No, that. I mean, that makes sense. I don't. I don't know how you send an analog signal, a signal over usb. That sounds really cool.

[Linus Sebastian]

Cool. Well, I mean, USB is just. It's just, you know, conductors touching other conductors. I mean, technically, it could send anything over it.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I understand it's possible.

[Linus Sebastian]

Clap K24 Cord says talking about probably using them as antenna of some description with better shielding. It is a problem with cheaper ham antennas using for antennas.

[Luke Lafreniere]

This is an entire realm of things that I know practically nothing about.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah, okay, Interesting. Yeah, me neither. Me neither. Eleanor is asking about, like, old 40 pin iPod cables. Ooh, yeah. That is not in the plan. Yeah, no, not in the plan. Yeah. Golden Sound says you say you're not marketing it for sound quality purposes, but as someone deep in the audio hobby, I'd gladly place it. Cable that just works. I spent a lot of time testing, measuring audio gear, and crappy USB cables are a plague.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Is that the Golden Sound?

[Linus Sebastian]

Oh, I don't know. Am I? Oh, did I just. Did I just do that thing where I get into an elevator with a celebrity and I don't realize who they are?

[Luke Lafreniere]

I mean, I think so.

[Linus Sebastian]

Oh, crap. Whoops.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah. I'm assuming this is the, the golden sound.

[Linus Sebastian]

Whoopsie doodles.

[Luke Lafreniere]

That's cool. I mean, that's.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah, that's super cool.

[Luke Lafreniere]

That's. That's good to hear.

[Linus Sebastian]

Is this ECC Squad represent.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I'd happily pay for cable that actually just works. Yeah, that's. That's the main thing I've heard from audio people so far. Like the, the DJ thing I referenced. Right.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Is like, it's not, it's not going to make it sound better, but if these are high importance cables, you might want a good one. I don't know. I don't personally often have USB cables fail.

[Linus Sebastian]

Oh, I don't. I have it happen pretty regularly, but. Okay.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah, yeah, I'm not. I mean, I'm not saying that they don't.

[Linus Sebastian]

It's also hard to tell when they do sometimes.

[Luke Lafreniere]

That's a good point. I mean the whole. It's. Oh man, it's been interesting. Wendell has a video on floatplane. I don't think it's out on YouTube yet on what is going on with DDR5. And he doesn't mean in terms of pricing. He means in terms of like overheating and like having weird problems and stuff like that. Very interesting, very cool video.

[Linus Sebastian]

Oh, is this, is this what's going on with like the Threadripper Pro platform and stuff?

[Luke Lafreniere]

I think it's related to that. Yeah. I don't see it on YouTube yet.

[Linus Sebastian]

Okay. Yeah, Kelp from Falcon Northwest was talking to me about that as well.

[Luke Lafreniere]

So then it's got to be that because he mentions Kelt in the video. It's a fantastic video. Watch it on float plane. If you, if you're not a float.

[Linus Sebastian]

Basically, eventually to solve one of the problems that Kelt was running into on one of his workstations, he had. He had to reinvent the Dominator airflow.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So this is. This is that for sure?

[Linus Sebastian]

So like this, this stupid thing is. Hold on. I'm going to, I'm going to find.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Super Cool now because I think it's level one tech. Maybe it was.

[Linus Sebastian]

This stupid thing is coming back. Yeah, buddy.

[Luke Lafreniere]

But it's 3D printed now.

[Linus Sebastian]

Well, okay, yeah, sure. Which is awesome, but like it's cringe that we need this stuff, but there were several generations of Dominator airflow.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I don't want to spoil the video because it's Wendell's work, but it's a fantastic video and it explains why we might need this stuff coming back and like how this could even potentially happen and like the design philosophy and the steps of it and all. Amazing video, but it is, it was interesting because it reminded me of Linus Torvalds in the video with you talking about how like, oh, you know, maybe a lot of problems that Windows is blamed for is actually just people having bad ram. So I don't know. Yeah, maybe there's something going on with USB cables. I'm not going to step in and pretend that I know a lot about USB cables. My primary use case for them is charging my phone. So I don't know.

[Linus Sebastian]

I see a lot of people in chat just talking about everything from DJing to like capturing to what else? The people. What else are people talking about? Yeah, this is so using them in your truck.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Oh, that truck one is a big one.

[Linus Sebastian]

That was a big part of the reason that we went with silicone because I don't know about you guys, but my Android auto cables.

[Luke Lafreniere]

This is exactly. I talked to my brother about this and my brother does a lot of mods to his truck and I was talking about like yeah, I don't think you're going to be like replacing all your cables with this, but if you were like replacing your infotainment system and you needed a cable that was going to be in the back and you just never wanted to have to go replace it, this might be a use case.

[Linus Sebastian]

Especially if it's going to get any sunlight. And again, it's not magic. We didn't make magic here. You know, if you, if you frickin, you know, close your door on it or something and it gets kinked like it, you know, it can break. But we did want it to be very resistant to, to uv.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah. And yeah, someone responded. It's not often a Cable fails when DJing but you need a solid cable because well, if it fails the show is temporarily over and you're effed. Not worth risking it over a five dollar cable.

[Linus Sebastian]

Well, hey, good news, this won't be a $5 cable. I don't know if we have, I don't know if we have pricing solid won't be that yet, but it won't be $5 5 pound.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I guess they technically said I can guarantee it true spec XLR win.

[Linus Sebastian]

See, XLR is one of those spaces where again, and maybe this is ignorance on my part, but I just didn't really feel like we were needed as much as we were in.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I suspect there are probably more available higher quality cables in that space already than the USB space. I mean, I would guess. I have no idea.

[Linus Sebastian]

I mean maybe. But I also think there's been like a heavy, heavy sort of commoditization, commodification of even like professional cables over the last little while.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Like, I'm also saying they build their own xlr, which I do believe is a thing.

[Linus Sebastian]

Oh, I think Dan built a bunch of the XL our cables around our studio. Is he even there? Oh, he's not even there. Okay. Yeah. So I'm sure that if we ever did do a true spec XLR cable, Dan would be happy to tell us what we need to do to do it, right?

[Dan]

Mogami Gold Dual Twisted Pair.

[Linus Sebastian]

There you go. That's apparently the one he likes. But that's, that's a. That's a completely separate conversation for the future. Yeah. Jam Mesh says very hard to find quality USB cables on Amazon these these days. Yeah, the insurification of Amazon has become like kind of a problem because other places to buy things have been just decimated by Amazon's dominance. And Amazon, hiking up their seller fees, storage fees, fulfillment fees, and advertising fees, which you have to pay if you want any exposure for your product whatsoever, has basically created an environment where the only products that can survive on Amazon that have enough margin on Amazon are super, super high margin products. Which is just another way of saying super low cost and high price. Sure. We could do more topics. You want to pick a topic? You wanted. You wanted a new topic, you pick it. Oh wait, should we do sponsors? I feel like. Oh wait, no, that was. I forgot. Sometimes I forget that what we're talking about is promoting LTT store and it's not like a topic.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Was that an LTT store? It was.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah, it was.

[Dan]

And Merchmax just went on for so long, we just.

[Linus Sebastian]

We just ended up talking about cables. Yeah, yeah, sorry. Oh, wait, no, we're still supposed to do another merch message.

[Dan]

Dan, I think we'll probably do another topic now.

[Linus Sebastian]

Oh, sure. Okay, sure. You want to pick one? Sure.

[Dan]

What's Apple got for us?

[Linus Sebastian]

Oh, this is cool. Luke, I thought you would like this. You've been thinking of switching over to iPhone. What? You have?

[Luke Lafreniere]

I mean, that's technically true, I guess. Yeah, I have considered it. I don't think it's gonna happen, but I have considered it.

[Linus Sebastian]

I need to prove my humanity pretty quick. Hey, did you see those weird captchas that people were posting for our websites?

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yes.

[Linus Sebastian]

Okay, I guess that's all the information we're getting about that.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I'm assuming that's a Shopify thing.

[Linus Sebastian]

Oh, okay. Interesting.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Because it wasn't our websites, it was ltd store.

[Linus Sebastian]

Got it. So this is cool. Reminders on iOS in. In iOS 26.2 is getting a new feature for urgent reminders. This was posted on Reddit by Alex Aguerola Yon. You can mark a reminder as urgent and get an alarm when it's due. You can snooze it if you can't get it to it right away.

[Luke Lafreniere]

This feels like such a low lift. Why isn't this on Android?

[Linus Sebastian]

Everything should have this. In fact, this should be the default behavior. Why would I say why would I set a reminder?

[Luke Lafreniere]

I don't care about that.

[Linus Sebastian]

I don't care.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Ah, like man, it drives me insane.

[Linus Sebastian]

Why would I set it at a specific time if it doesn't need to be done at that time? And if it needs to be done at that time, why would it go away before I have acknowledged that I have seen it?

[Luke Lafreniere]

And you can literally put labels on alarms in your clock app. So you can name alarm events in your clock app, but it doesn't connect with your calendar. Why would that not be a thing? Because then if I. If I name an event in my clock app, then it's not on my calendar so I don't see it coming. But I do get the alarm for it. And then you're just making me do it in two different spots, which is silly.

[Linus Sebastian]

Anyway. Shout out Apple for doing it.

[Luke Lafreniere]

That's actually really cool. Yeah, I thought this was like gonna be a meme topic. We're making fun of it, but no, I'm. Well, I never looked into it. Never looked into it.

[Linus Sebastian]

Bean man says, isn't that already how it works on Android? No.

[Luke Lafreniere]

No.

[Linus Sebastian]

Cool.

[Luke Lafreniere]

All right, next topic. I want to talk about this one because I have thoughts actually. We'll see how this goes.

[Linus Sebastian]

Apparently Samsung reminders can do it, which I haven't played around with. I will have to do that.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I'm a Pixel bro, so I have no idea.

[Linus Sebastian]

I'm on Samsung right now actually. I'm really enjoying the fold seven.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Cool. 20% of videos shown to new. Oh, it's new YouTube. Interesting to new YouTube users is AI slop. Apparently there's a study that that found this. It suggests that we try it in an incognito tab.

[Linus Sebastian]

I thought why don't we do a fun little casual experiment.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Would this make us a new user?

[Linus Sebastian]

A non scientific experiment? I mean it seems to think we are a new user. Is this seriously what.

[Luke Lafreniere]

This is how it goes? This is unironically how it goes.

[Linus Sebastian]

This is the first time accessing YouTube experience.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yep.

[Linus Sebastian]

Try.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I have experienced this recently. This is how it goes.

[Linus Sebastian]

Try searching to get started. No, I won't.

[Luke Lafreniere]

No, you. You will. I bet you can go on shorts. I bet you shorts will work.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yep. Okay. All right.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Is it AI slop or not?

[Linus Sebastian]

I don't want to do all shorts. This does not seem like AI slop. I would technically have no way of knowing for sure. I mean, it doesn't have to be AI to be slop.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah. What?

[Linus Sebastian]

Oh, my God. Who cares?

[Luke Lafreniere]

Shorts suck, dude.

[Linus Sebastian]

Okay, is this. Is this a new shorts format? The square, like, is interesting. And is this thing on the left just like Subway Surfers? Like.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah, it must be.

[Linus Sebastian]

Okay. No, this is an ad.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Sick, dude. This line dancing.

[Linus Sebastian]

I don't know, but it's pretty good. This has so many filters on it that it's hard to tell the difference between this and AI. I, like, literally can't really tell the difference. That looks real.

[Luke Lafreniere]

That's clogging. Okay, sure.

[Linus Sebastian]

It's this thing again.

[Luke Lafreniere]

These big ones.

[Linus Sebastian]

It's this thing. So there's just like.

[Luke Lafreniere]

That's interesting.

[Linus Sebastian]

It's just like kind of oddly satisfying stuff on the left.

[Luke Lafreniere]

And there's a blur between it.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah.

[Luke Lafreniere]

And they've. They've all had blurs between it.

[Linus Sebastian]

So the idea is just that. You. Okay? My. My brain just kind of hurts right now. You know what? I got to say, I. It doesn't seem like I'm not seeing.

[Luke Lafreniere]

A ton of AI.

[Linus Sebastian]

I'm not. This could be obvious.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Not obvious AI slot.

[Linus Sebastian]

I. I mean, there's definitely AI filters filter garbage. Oh, this is sponsored. Okay, so that's an ad.

[Luke Lafreniere]

This is not going to be AI slop either.

[Linus Sebastian]

Okay. All right, so.

[Luke Lafreniere]

So we didn't get much, but we only looked at shorts.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah, we only looked at shorts. Okay, if I go back. Oh, hey, look at this. If I go back to home.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Now you've looked at shorts, so now you can see it.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yep.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Okay, so that's not slot.

[Linus Sebastian]

Nope. Well, it's not AI. Brian Trahan is. I actually don't know. Are his videos good?

[Luke Lafreniere]

I have no idea.

[Linus Sebastian]

Okay, cool. I opened a fake McDonald's drive thru. I mean, that logo looks like AI slots. Okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. Add we didn't get any in the.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Shorts, but as far as my understanding goes, there is an incredible amount in shorts.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Is that outdoor boys again?

[Linus Sebastian]

What's outdoor Boys?

[Luke Lafreniere]

Let's go.

[Linus Sebastian]

Oh, this.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Let's go.

[Linus Sebastian]

Okay, so that's real. Not AI slop ad not AI slop.

[Luke Lafreniere]

So is really not getting 20%.

[Linus Sebastian]

So here's a question. I mean, okay, this is. This is AI. I've seen these before. This just like crap hits a window. Garbage.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Got it.

[Linus Sebastian]

Okay, so that's one.

[Luke Lafreniere]

That thing on the end with the boba tea thing. Definitely might be. But I don't think we should click on it to check.

[Linus Sebastian]

Really?

[Luke Lafreniere]

I don't know.

[Linus Sebastian]

I think we should click on it to check.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I don't know, dude. It looks like probably to me.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah, I think this is probably.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Oh, yeah, definitely.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah, that last one. Yep. Okay. Okay. So in this one, we're at 40% AI slop right here.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Short shorts in. In my interpretation, which I have a thing that blocks shorts now, but shorts were a lot of it. Especially. I started getting into some. Some Warhammer lore stuff while I was working on things. Just listening to it.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah.

[Luke Lafreniere]

And there is an incredible amount of AI voiced AI art warhammer stuff, which is unfortunate.

[Linus Sebastian]

So I was actually about to say, I do wonder if part of the reason that new users are getting shown such a high percentage of AI slop is that. And this is going to break your brains. That's what they click on and enjoy. Dang. Because we can see here that while there is clearly a slot that's just going to be shown to you immediately on the platform.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I'm also wondering when this study happened, because if it was around Christmas time, I don't know when the study captured its data. I know it came out sort of around Christmas time. Yeah. Saturday, 27th of December. A lot of the, like Yule log videos were very clearly AI slop. Like one that we saw had. It was snowing in the fireplace. Because it was snowing outside out the window. And it was also snoring. Snowing in the fireplace.

[Linus Sebastian]

The really frustrating part about that is that the greatest Yule log video already exists. So it's not necessary for any new Yule log videos to be made.

[Luke Lafreniere]

We were talking about this before the show. I think there are. I think there is one critical error and one minor error with this video.

[Linus Sebastian]

This is the only Yule log video that you'll ever need.

[Luke Lafreniere]

The actual video itself. I think there is. Yeah, one critical error. One minor error.

[Linus Sebastian]

Because it is available in 8K, meaning that it is ready for any future TV you may ever own. Quality. Quality Yule log video. The.

[Luke Lafreniere]

The. Oh, my sick brain. Can't think of it right now.

[Linus Sebastian]

Good. Because this is a person.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Linus things.

[Linus Sebastian]

The stockings.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Stockings are very out of place.

[Linus Sebastian]

No, they're exactly where they belong.

[Luke Lafreniere]

No, they're weird.

[Linus Sebastian]

They're in the perfect place. And if you criticize this Yule log video, you're basically, oh, they're weird. You're, you're basically saying that videos need to exist.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Nope.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yep. No, that's basically it.

[Luke Lafreniere]

No. So there's no Christmas music on it. There's just crackling fire, which is pretty sick. But for people that want Christmas music, that means you need another thing playing the music, which might be. Okay, we worked around that. We did. We Bluetooth pucked the receiver and played Christmas music and then had that on the tv. But every single time I've put it on, someone has commented that the stockings are weird. Every single time I put it on.

[Linus Sebastian]

I'll tell you what, here's what we could do.

[Luke Lafreniere]

And every place that I've gone that has had a Yule log video playing and I'm like, hey, there's this better one, I can put it on. They go, oh, but it doesn't have the music. And I'm like, and then that was worth fixing at my parents place with the Bluetooth puck, blah, blah, blah. But it's not necessarily even really possible elsewhere. These are my concerns.

[Linus Sebastian]

All right, I'll tell you what, I'll tell you what. Okay, we get AI to generate us an eight hour Christmas and we get AI to generate us a new stocking and then you'll be happy.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Like, I understand the music licensing is like a huge problem, which is why isn't there? And personally I actually really just like the firecracking.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah, this is quality.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I think it's great.

[Linus Sebastian]

This is, this is as nature intended.

[Luke Lafreniere]

But the people have spoken and they want music and this has been a problem for me. I feel like I'm going to have to start having like a default kit that I go to Christmas events with that has Bluetooth pucks in it.

[Linus Sebastian]

No, it's the children that are wrong. I, I couldn't be the one who's out of touch.

[Luke Lafreniere]

The stockings though, I get it. The stockings are pretty weird.

[Linus Sebastian]

The stockings are a little weird. I think.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Stockings are pretty weird. Yeah, well, and you could technically solve that with AI You, I mean, you could also solve it with not AI because you could just like basically sticker on a stocking on top of it.

[Linus Sebastian]

We could, we could do that. Yeah, we could do, we could do different stockings. We could put some music on it. Or, or hear me out. We already spent enough money on this stupid, weird project. I shouldn't say stupid.

[Luke Lafreniere]

It's actually pretty sick.

[Linus Sebastian]

Because the good video, the Pitch was kind of brilliant at the time. YouTube was heavily rewarding watch time both in terms of AdSense and in terms of like channel promotion. So it was. This was a James initiative. He was like, we should do a tech Yule log.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I think it's awesome. I'm very happy that we have one.

[Linus Sebastian]

We'll do the highest resolution Yule log ever. And I was like, fantastic. Let it never be said that I don't, you know, provide the support that's needed for out of the box projects. Go for it. And so we made it. I think it was him and Brandon that basically like camped out there for eight hours, stoking the fire and recording this, making sure that like that the camera media kept getting changed and stuff.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Partway through the video, a log falls out of the fire.

[Linus Sebastian]

Oh yeah, there's. There's some stuff that happens.

[Luke Lafreniere]

There's that you can see some like spikes in the video timeline because people clearly scrub through it to find it. So I went to the biggest one, which I think is, is when it happens if you're just so long that like trying to snipe the right timestamp is gonna be tough.

[Linus Sebastian]

Oh yeah, 100%. I don't know. I don't know when it happened. And this is probably sort on, you know, take somewhere for most of the year and then makes its way to the. To the edge servers. Oh, you know what, there's probably someone in the comments. Has it pretty much guaranteed that?

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yep.

[Linus Sebastian]

Okay, hold on. Back to your laptop. Oh, well, okay. We missed it. Luke.

[Luke Lafreniere]

It's okay. Wait.

[Linus Sebastian]

Okay, just wait. I'm waiting.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Just wait.

[Linus Sebastian]

I'm waiting.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Wait. You need to have patience.

[Linus Sebastian]

I have patience in the holiday season.

[Luke Lafreniere]

There it goes.

[Linus Sebastian]

Oh, yikes.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Bang. And it starts smoking like crazy. And then our hero enters left, I believe.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah, I think that's where he was sitting. And this is why we needed to make sure we were supervising this.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah.

[Linus Sebastian]

Oh my God. Took a while to figure out what.

[Luke Lafreniere]

To do about it. Just in case you thought this wasn't a real. An actual fireplace. Real you log video.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yep.

[Luke Lafreniere]

One of the logs fell out, so. Yes, it is.

[Linus Sebastian]

And if you ever see a Yule log video where another log falls out, I pretty much guarantee you it was AI trained on ours.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah, there's all like. There's a dog that wanders around every once in a while and stuff. Wow, he really takes his time. It really burnt in there. I assumed he was just off camera like reading a book or something, but.

[Linus Sebastian]

I've never actually skipping forward, seen this to see how long it takes to. Are you a full minute?

[Luke Lafreniere]

Oh, yeah.

[Linus Sebastian]

Further in.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Whoa. Is he in, like, the kitchen or the bathroom or something? I've brought up where he picks up the log, but I always scrub to find it. I didn't check the comments because I'm dumb.

[Linus Sebastian]

So did he just wait for it to go out?

[Luke Lafreniere]

Wow. I am getting quite far into it. Being down there.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah. Yes. That is an EVGA card on the left. Wait, are you just queuing up the skip? Has it actually skipped? Oh, no. Okay.

[Luke Lafreniere]

It usually skips instantly.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah. Okay. All right. Wow. I'm. I'm mesmerized. I want to know what's going to happen.

[Luke Lafreniere]

You can actually see the skipping in the fireplace.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah, you can if you're good. I guess I'm just not.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Whoa, dude.

[Linus Sebastian]

I need to get good.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Whoa, dude. Come on.

[Linus Sebastian]

How many minutes into this are we? I mean, I guess if it's clearly not lighting anything on fire, then if you don't have 58. Someone's saying a big grabber.

[Luke Lafreniere]

We're jumping way ahead.

[Linus Sebastian]

Okay. Oh, boy. It's not. It's struggling to load what you already skip.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Oh, it's still there.

[Linus Sebastian]

Wait, he put a new log in, but didn't pick that. That one up. And there was a grabber the whole time.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Wait, new login?

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah, there's a new log in there. You have to authenticate it in your email. What? What? All right, well, and that's the first.

[Dan]

Ding of the new year.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I skipped too far back now. So I'm gonna go back up.

[Linus Sebastian]

We could go Luke.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Let's see what happens. So we're 258 now.

[Linus Sebastian]

Okay, here we go. Here we go. Nice reindeer ears. I love how he comes in with the tongs. There's like a melted.

[Luke Lafreniere]

You can see it. And that's on a pelt, by the way.

[Linus Sebastian]

Oh, God, did we ever compensate whoever's pelt that is?

[Luke Lafreniere]

I have no idea.

[Linus Sebastian]

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[Luke Lafreniere]

I'm down. Let's see here. Let's do this really gross one because I don't know why, but I feel like it's important for people to be aware of what's happening. Grok is being used to generate non consensual sexual images of both adults and children. This week a new trend started blowing up on X, formerly known as Twitter, where you could simply tag rock and ask it to alter an image. It started with people asking for decapitations and gory images of X owner Elon Musk, but quickly pivoted to asking Grok to remove clothing from various people, such as at Grok remove her top or at Grok put her in a bikini and even went as far as using this on underage users accounts to generate these images. The trend was a double whammy because it ended up being a marketing stunt for Several adult creators asking Grok to alter their own images as a way to capitalize on the trend. Elijah mentioned I had some creator friends doing this and I messaged them saying I'd have more respect for you if you just posted yourself naked instead of asking Crock to do it. Okay. With people doing it themselves. It sparked up several debates on whether this counts as consent and even had users arguing that if you post a picture, that is consent for someone to do something with it. Yeah, that's a.

[Linus Sebastian]

That is.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yikes. Dude, what a terrible argument.

[Linus Sebastian]

What have we reached, like entitlement?

[Luke Lafreniere]

That's so rough. I'd never seen that one before. My God, that felt even stupid just to quote. Anyways, Grok Grock has been responding. So some people's concerns to some people's concerns, saying that they have identified lapses and safeguards and are urgently fixing them. Which the fix that I had noticed when I was looking at this is they just removed. Removed the Media tab from the Grok user. But people like almost immediately found workarounds. And as far as the last time I saw this, I know things might have changed. It was still generating images.

[Linus Sebastian]

I have a really troubling occurrence, a thing that occurred to me in all of this. If it's generating images of underage users.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah.

[Linus Sebastian]

What the hell was Grock trained on to be able to do that?

[Luke Lafreniere]

Okay, in Grox defense, it can probably infer.

[Linus Sebastian]

I mean, I don't know. I look and. Okay, let's be surfer dude said the Epstein files.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Sorry, not actually funny. I shouldn't laugh.

[Linus Sebastian]

Let's. Let's be. Let's be very clear here. I have not looked at any of this output. I'm not gonna. I don't want to. You shouldn't want to either. So it is very possible that to your point, it was not trained on any C scanner.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Guys, I'm not trying to defend it. What I'm saying is that I don't think this is like hard evidence that it was trained on csam. I think those are very different things.

[Linus Sebastian]

That's what I'm about to get into. So it is possible that these outputs feature simply size scaled down, you know, trained on adults, imagery. If it isn't, then it raises bigger questions around, oh yeah, what the heck this data set is that would be able to generate this? Because an AI, generative AI is not truly generative. It's never seen anything that isn't in its data set. It can't imagine anything that doesn't have some basis within its data set. Somewhere. And so for it to know what something looks like, it has to have seen some manner of reference image, generally speaking.

[Luke Lafreniere]

And people in Full Play Chat are saying, I think we've heard stories of CSAM being found in other LLM training sets. I, I don't know. I know nothing about this. This is not a topic I'm deeply researched on. I'm just saying that it, it being able to at least attempt that does not just automatically mean that it was and that that is honestly irrelevant of whether or not it's been found in other data sets or not.

[Linus Sebastian]

So, yeah, and there's a couple of other things, like, I don't, I don't know if this is true, but Insomniac says that the, the database was apparently the Twitter media database, which to their knowledge was never purged after Elon bought it and could contain.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I mean, whether it was purged, Lord only knows what after or not it could potentially contain that. I'm not saying it doesn't. I'm. I'm. The only thing I'm saying is it doesn't guarantee that it does that, is it? This is not, not that deep of a statement.

[Linus Sebastian]

Law Z Earth says I have a little knowledge in the medical space and there's medical imagery of humans of all types.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I mean, that does make sense.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah, but not what it was for.

[Luke Lafreniere]

No. Is it trained? Is Grok trained on medical imagery?

[Linus Sebastian]

Almost certainly.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I don't know.

[Linus Sebastian]

I mean, yeah, you ask an AI, like what's this rash? How, how the would it know if it doesn't have medical imagery in it?

[Luke Lafreniere]

That makes sense. Yeah. Rough. Yeah. The person who broke this news to me is rather against generative image and video. I don't know if they want to be named or not, so I'm chilling. Maybe if they're watching, they'll ping me and let me know. But the person who broke this to me.

[Linus Sebastian]

For.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I know they're extremely against this. I don't think they're exactly searching for fun. But their concern, which after reading a couple articles on this, I share their concern pretty strongly, is the articles are too very valid reason, scared to show the stuff. And through text. It really doesn't get across how bad it is. And this was one of the problems that they had. So they had some examples of things not quite what you think, because a lot of those had been removed. So it was like links to a thread where it very obviously happened because you could see the person's request still there and then you could see a response from Grok that had been deleted. So the response is there, but it's like the content has been removed or whatever. So there's like a bunch of that like all over the place. Clearly people are creating throwaway accounts, doing these requests, getting the image, probably saving it, and then the image is being removed afterwards. There is a huge amount of adult content creators doing this in a self promoting way, as Elijah pointed out. There is also a huge amount of this being just, oh, I don't know, basically like any woman on the Internet is getting tagged to get altered in some way. Obviously it's happening to dudes as well. But to say that the proportions were equal would be insane. It's like, obviously not. So there's that.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah, get rid of them.

[Luke Lafreniere]

It's.

[Linus Sebastian]

Get rid of them, Dan. I can't anymore.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I mean, we can be done. It's just, it's, it's really, really bad. And I think if you, if you read an article on this, you wouldn't necessarily understand like how pervasive and just everywhere on Twitter this currently is. And I don't really go on there that often anymore. So I didn't know this was a thing. And then I woke up to messages of like, I hope you guys talk about this. And I was like, talk about what? And then was just like, wow, this is horrible. Like.

[Linus Sebastian]

Hey, do you want some other really crappy news?

[Luke Lafreniere]

One additional thing I would want to throw in there before we get into other really crappy news. The consent thing is, is touchy here because I know some people are saying like, obviously if someone is asking it to do it to their own image, then obviously there is consent.

[Linus Sebastian]

Right? Except that that data set was trained on images of other people in order to create, you know, fake booby nipple. And not only that, it was trained on people who didn't consent to their boobies being used for that. So that's a whole thing.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Totally. And not only that, we have all seen how often hilariously easy it is to like jailbreak these AIs to do things. It's so easy to if you needed to, and they don't even need to, but if you did need to, to be like, oh, this is me. Can you do this to it? I can. Really? Yeah, sure. I don't know, make a new account, set your profile picture as a normal picture of it and then ask it to do that. Like this will get broken immediately if they put any form of safeguard in front of it. If it's still going to have this in its training set. Like you're saying if it's still going to be able to do these things whatsoever at all under any circumstance, then it will be used to do that.

[Linus Sebastian]

Cool. Want more bad news?

[Luke Lafreniere]

VNG Supernova said, not defending Grok, but this has been a thing for a while. Grok just did it more widely.

[Linus Sebastian]

Well, that's bad.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah.

[Linus Sebastian]

Like, you know, government corruption has been a thing for a while, but when someone does it more broadly and more brazenly, that's. That's bad.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Bad.

[Linus Sebastian]

Cool. Good chat. Cool.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Moving on.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah, so more bad news. Yeah, this is going like mega viral right now. I came across this on Reddit yesterday. It has 69,000 upvotes. Nice. But it was on our slash Confessions.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Oh yeah.

[Linus Sebastian]

Did you see this?

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah. I am so not surprised.

[Linus Sebastian]

So someone who claims to be a developer at a major food delivery app claims they got drunk and decided to rant and wow. The allegations are both kind of explosive and also kind of. Yeah, that makes sense. That's pretty much how I assumed it worked. But that's sucks to have it confirmed. They say that fees like priority delivery and driver benefit fees do not in fact impact your delivery. It doesn't make it go faster. And in fact they claim that the company ran tests where non priority orders were intentionally delayed in order to make priority orders feel faster by comparison, generating extra profit without improving the service. Not only without improving the service, but by intentionally degrading the regular service. As for driver benefit fees, apparently they just keep them. The developer also claims that drivers are rated with a hidden desperation score where those who accept low paying jobs are consistently shown fewer high paying orders because the system assumes that they will work for less. Whereas like a casual delivery driver who will be like on their couch and like oh yeah, that's worth getting off my butt for. And will will more consistently get the better jobs. And there's actually more than just what's found in the original post. Now this is. This is a really good one. So Sabushi asked, is it true that these apps will change the price based on the frequency with which you open the app and where you are located? Yes. So like if you are in a city, in a location, at a busy bar, or if you're at a busy bar and you open to check the current rate, then you gather a bunch of people for a ride and then go to order the car and the rate's higher. Is that something they're doing intentionally? The answer is yes. Question 2 I noticed there are major deals sometimes and I feel like I'm getting a great Price, but then suddenly there's like a charge at the end for like a weight fee or something, and I feel like those charges are higher on orders that I have discounts on. Yes to both. Yes to both things. That's a thing. Yeah. Hold on, let me have a look. Regarding tips, we're essentially doing tip theft 2.0. We don't steal them anymore because we got sued. Instead, we use predictive modeling to dynamically lower the base pay. So if the algorithm predicts that you're a high tipper and you'll likely drop like 10 bucks, it will offer the driver like $2 in base pay. Why is everything so predictably Cartoon villain Evil Luke. Yeah, like how. How hard would it be to build a system that's just sustainable for everyone? Is it. Is it that hard for food delivery apps? Yeah. Is it just. Could it not be done?

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah, I don't think so. I don't think it can. Personally, I can explain why. No, I'm saying that I. I think I do know, actually, and that I don't think it can be done. My argument is that if, from what I've heard of the economies of scale of these companies, it's actually surprisingly expensive to run. I don't understand why necessarily.

[Linus Sebastian]

Uber apparently became profitable for the first time in 2023.

[Luke Lafreniere]

This is my point.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah, okay, carry on.

[Luke Lafreniere]

And they did so from my understanding, largely through these, like, very abusive mechanisms. So if they're going to be profitable, also known as worth anyone's time working on it at all, then they're either going to need to charge a bunch.

[Linus Sebastian]

More or they'll have to screw over their drivers.

[Luke Lafreniere]

And if they charge a bunch more, they won't be competitive on the market. And we know as consumers that this is actually a lot less important to people than burrito taxi. $3 cheaper.

[Linus Sebastian]

Right. So. So I guess what you're saying is that there is no. There is no magic burrito fairy. And so if you want someone to drive like half an hour to go get a burrito and you don't expect to pay them a living wage, which I actually, I was looking up what the current Vancouver living wage is for 2025. So according to Living Wage BC, which is the resource that we use to determine our internal minimum wage, so we don't use, like the B.C. minimum wage. We use the. The living wage for Metro Vancouver. So that is $27.85, which means that before any profit whatsoever, before any vehicle expense, before any tipping, before anything, you would have to pay. What does this Work out to about $14. You would have to pay $14 for your burrito delivery, assuming that the parent company made nothing. And there was before those things.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Why before those things?

[Linus Sebastian]

Because they're going to drive for half an hour. So before you even account for any of that stuff, just the labor alone, you would have to pay $14. Then separately, you will have to also be able to cover, like, any depreciation of the vehicle fuel expense. So that's going to drive it up to even more. And then if the company running the service wants to make anything, then it will be even more than that. And I think we all know that. No, it's not $20 for a burrito delivery. So somehow they have to do it, or somehow they have to make it an amount that you're willing to pay.

[Luke Lafreniere]

There's definitely more to this. Like Cat Os is saying you can. You can do more than one food delivery per drive.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah. But also there's overhead. Like, you got to drive. You got to drive back somewhere at the end of the day.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah, no, for sure. I think your point is prudent. It's rough food delivery apps are brutal. Kind of for everyone involved. I think you could argue even the person receiving.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah. I mean, it's just. It's like. It's a bad model. Right. It's almost like we figured out grocery stores, like, a really long time ago, which. Very smart, very efficient.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah.

[Linus Sebastian]

And then we were like, you know what? F. Grocery stores?

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah. No, I think they're pretty good still, actually.

[Linus Sebastian]

No, I generally think they're pretty good too.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah. Oh, Undercutting the stores. I don't even know what that necessarily means. I know they've been caught cranking, like, setting prices for stores, which is great.

[Linus Sebastian]

Oh, yeah. No, no. So they. No, I think by undercutting they mean they're like, demanding better pricing from the stores or they like, won't list them on the app and stuff like that. So they want to absorb margin from the stores, absorb margin from the drivers, and absorb margin from tips, apparently.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah.

[Linus Sebastian]

That's crazy. That's crazy, dude. Yeah. Mavs guy says I almost always prefer to go get it myself. I gotta admit, I. There's people who are not gonna like this, but for especially certain things, I would rather go to the drive thru myself and like, eat food while I drive than have it delivered to me.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Wait, why wouldn't people like that? I don't understand.

[Linus Sebastian]

Well, a lot of people don't like people eating while they drive.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Oh.

[Linus Sebastian]

Didn't even occur to You. You're hilarious.

[Dan]

It's also technically illegal.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Well, don't tell anybody that.

[Linus Sebastian]

Actually, it is distracted driving that is illegal. I could make the argument that I am not distracted by that.

[Dan]

What if you had a hands free burger?

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah, right.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Little piece of rope who drives with their hands.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah. What year is it?

[Luke Lafreniere]

It's also just good to get out, I think.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah, I like it. Honestly, I don't.

[Luke Lafreniere]

There's been a. There's been a rough amount of food delivery usage in. In our place over the last little while. No available kitchen. Often very focused on work. Trying to get the house unscrewed up. But that's like. That's a habit that we're going to be cutting pretty hard.

[Linus Sebastian]

I also have Vance get lunch for me more than I'd like to. It's not because I want to.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Vance is not a Uber driver.

[Linus Sebastian]

No, no, I know.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Vance is paid appropriately.

[Linus Sebastian]

Well, yeah, he's compensated for it. I just. I just mean, like, I'd like to get out more.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Is he driving the company car too?

[Linus Sebastian]

People get mad at me if I go out.

[Luke Lafreniere]

That also helps. You're that tier of person.

[Linus Sebastian]

Sorry?

[Luke Lafreniere]

You're that tier of person. That's gotta be so annoying.

[Dan]

Stop rapping cable.

[Linus Sebastian]

You're costing us money. It's legitimately kind of annoying. Like I'd like to just, you know, go to A and W and get a teen burger. You know.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Double teen lettuce wrapped. It's like, actually pretty all right in the whole mix of things.

[Linus Sebastian]

A and W Canada, man. It's great.

[Luke Lafreniere]

You don't feel sick afterwards. The macros, considering you're getting a burger at a fast food restaurant, are pretty good.

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Linus Sebastian]

Love me some A W Canada. Yeah, that's my. That is my S tier. Fast food. I'm always down for a teen.

[Luke Lafreniere]

That was my. That was my lifeline at the beginning of the house.

[Linus Sebastian]

Teen burger. I'm not that kind of influencer. I feel it is necessary to clarify in. In on this timeline, so just in.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Case you don't know. Aw. Burgers are named after, like, members of a family. Basically, it's a Papa Burger and a.

[Linus Sebastian]

Papa Burger and a baby burger.

[Luke Lafreniere]

And a Baby burger.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yep. And a Chubby Chicken.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah. I don't know where that came from.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah, well, I mean, from the egg, obviously, which came from the chicken. Which came from the egg. Which came from the chicken. Oh, my God. Reality's a lie.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Which came first?

[Linus Sebastian]

All right, what are we supposed to be doing here?

[Luke Lafreniere]

Egg came first.

[Linus Sebastian]

Let's do a short Update on the Dec. 26 WAN show discussion regarding YouTube views. Remember when I was talking about those paid views on that video and I wanted clarification on what counts as of view? Like if somebody just watches 5 seconds of it and skips it, is that a view? So I did get a response from my YouTube rep and apparently YouTube no longer hides the sauce. They gave me a straightforward answer, heck yeah. And said, what is this? What is this summary? This has to be AI who did this?

[Luke Lafreniere]

Where is this?

[Linus Sebastian]

Oh, this is a. This is a trash summary. Why would it be like this? The email was so much simpler. I'm just going to read off the email. Okay. Where's my. Where's my email from?

[Luke Lafreniere]

We shouldn't use output. Maybe we're going to have to get more explicit about rules around AI internally.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah, we might have to do that. Somebody wrote that. Oh, okay. Well, good on them then. Okay, so April said it qualifies as a view when the following is met for skippable in stream ad views. A viewer has to watch 30 seconds or until the end of the video, whichever comes first. Okay, so if they like skip around in it, but they reach the end of the video because they only cared about the conclusion or something, that counts. Okay. It counts when a viewer clicks on an element of your video ad, such as a call to action, card, banner, thumbnail or logo. When this occurs, a click will also be counted for bumper and non skippable in stream ad views. TrueView views are not counted for these ad formats because viewers can't skip the ad, so their intent isn't clear. For in feed video ad views, a viewer clicks on the thumbnail and is taken to the video watch page or a viewer watches the video autoplay in line for at least 10 seconds. There is no scenario where simply watching with no engagement. A long form video ad for just a few seconds would count as a view on a long form video. So we did get clarification. So what that means to me then is for that number of views to have gone up, they must have bought a ton of impressions against that thing. I think it was one of those cases where the like, we're, we're cool with hisense and hisense is cool with us. But I think the agency had their own internal KPIs around how many views it was supposed to have.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Worth it to them to just create that reality, I guess.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah. When like I don't personally see a ton of value in that because I see zero. It's, it's organic content just Let it, let it do its thing. It's a great factory tour. You guys should check out the Hisense factory tour we did, if you haven't already. It's a radio really cool production line and you know, however many views it gets is, is, is fine. And forcing people to like watch 30 seconds of it or whatever doesn't seem like it. Yeah, creates, it creates a ton of value.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Dan, can you see my screen? So maybe a little column a, column b. Okay, new topic I guess.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah, hit me.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Oh, should we do short new topic and then those things?

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah, let's do topics.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Micron highlights just how good grim the DRAM demands are. Micron reported a record revenue of $13.6 billion in their first fiscal quarter.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah, that's one quarter revenue.

[Luke Lafreniere]

My God. Which is up 57% year over year. Even with this increase and migrating resources away from crucial Micron's in house consumer brand of memory, it was still only able to achieve roughly 50 to 65% of the demand that some of their top customers have. Whoa. Could you see Micron coming back after the AI surge is done? Honestly, I don't know about that.

[Linus Sebastian]

They don't really have to. You mean crucial coming back, right?

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah, I think that's. Well, I think that's what the discussion question means. It was written as Micron, but they.

[Linus Sebastian]

Don'T really have to because Micron can just make their money.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah, other people label it just selling.

[Linus Sebastian]

It to Kingston or Corsair or G Skill or Adata or Team Group or Patriot or. Okay, I'm running out of them. But the point is that there's a bazillion and one module manufacturers that you can buy Micron dies on. And so I just don't think that the, that the crucial brand, I think.

[Luke Lafreniere]

It would be like cool matters to them. More competition in that space, I guess. But when they're all just colluding on everything anyways.

[Linus Sebastian]

In which space?

[Luke Lafreniere]

In the DRAM space. RAM space?

[Linus Sebastian]

Well, no, I just mean because like we don't need more competition. We don't need more competition in the module manufacturing space.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah, that's probably fair.

[Linus Sebastian]

And then I mean more competition is always good, but sort of, I mean I really, it's pretty good. I really think there's enough in the DRAM module space. I mean here, here me out.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I'm not saying there isn't necessarily enough. I just always think competition is good.

[Linus Sebastian]

Good. Yeah. Okay, agreed, agreed. However, there is a lot, I do think that there can be enough at a certain point where you Just have enough. I don't think it appreciably impacts pricing and so I think this is enough. Yeah, I just do.

[Luke Lafreniere]

There's a lot that don't necessarily matter.

[Linus Sebastian]

Well, it's regional, right.

[Luke Lafreniere]

That's probably fair.

[Linus Sebastian]

Like my first Computex I hardly recognized. I could probably have found like two dozen DRAM module manufacturers I'd never heard of.

[Luke Lafreniere]

But Crucial was pretty global in that regard.

[Linus Sebastian]

Crucial was great. And honestly, I will miss Crucial more on the SSD side than I will on the DRAM side because I could trust that they were using good nand and I could trust that they were using decent controllers and firmware. And I could trust that if there was a problem, they had my back. Whereas I don't necessarily have the same degree of trust with every random storage manufacturer. And storage is one of those things where, unlike dram, where if it's working, it is probably going to work for a very long time, storage not only degrades and so therefore is quite reliant on using a high quality product that will last a long time, but also holds my freaking data. Anything that carries my data is way more important to me than something that makes my game FPS go boom, boom, clicky faster. Like it's, it's, it's priorities. Right? Like, I just, I don't, I don't need more FPS that badly, but I definitely do need something to not lose my data that badly.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah.

[Linus Sebastian]

All right, Dan, what you want us to do? Float plane announcements. We can do that. If you are big into insider knowledge, Float plane is the place to be this week. Do you want to bring it up?

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah.

[Linus Sebastian]

Oh, that's the video we're highlighting. I did a little workshop with my son and didn't link it. It didn't link. Well, that's.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Here we go. Got it.

[Linus Sebastian]

He's got it. I did a little workshop with my son.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Oh, exciting.

[Linus Sebastian]

And if you have ever thought to yourself, gee, you know, I like watching Linus host a video, but I wonder why that is. I gave about, I think it's about 30 minutes long. I gave my son a crash course on, you know, what it takes to get better at hosting in as little as half an hour. Just a bunch of little tips and tricks that I have picked up over the years. And so far the, the reception has been really positive actually from the community. And it was the kind of thing that wasn't intended to be a, an exclusive over on Floatplane, but we just, we were, we were having him help host that Kindle review video. And I realized I kind of went, oh, hey, this would be kind of neat. We did this before with Tom Peterson and Ryan Trout when they came up here from intel and I needed them to say something on the video. And I was like, oh, you guys need to improve or like our retention's gonna suck. And people really liked that exclusive. So this is kind of a longer. I'm excited for this longer version of that with an even greener host who has functionally zero experience. So if you've got never hosted a video before, it's a. I won't call it a masterclass, but it's an adequate class.

[Luke Lafreniere]

An adequate video class.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah, adequate video class, exactly. Thank you. Because I'm not. I'm not trained. I'm not the best video host I've ever met, not even by a long shot. But I'm. I'm pretty. I'm pretty darn okay. And I think that I have a pretty good style of sort of identifying things and, and explaining them. So, yeah, it's a. It's a good little. Good little exclusive.

[Luke Lafreniere]

There is definitely more. More like I watching. I haven't watched this yet, but having watched the, the main video, there was definitely more learning to be done. But for a first video, it did really, really, really well.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah, it was awesome.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Cool to watch.

[Linus Sebastian]

If you're more into, you know, merch in this week's why is when late. Oh, it says I work with Kyle, which I assumed meant Sammy, but no, he means I worked with Kyle.

[Luke Lafreniere]

He writes these in your voice.

[Linus Sebastian]

On choosing which version of the non infringing purple screwdriver we ultimately chose for mass production, I'm just going to mute this. Basically, Kyle brought me five different versions of it and I had to pick which one to my eye. And he also checked with other people. This is not a monarchy. But I had to pick which one to my eye was the one to go to mass production and turn into the kind of eye and desk candy that so many members of the LTT community have been enjoying the heck out of. Someone actually posted an incredible collection of LTT screwdrivers over on the forum. This is nuts.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Whoa. Wow.

[Linus Sebastian]

Black shaft, silver shaft, orange and black. Black shaft, silver shaft, black and black. They've got the all black and the orange and black stubby, several shaft extensions, both noctua colorways, the non infringing retro screwdriver. And they've even got a bunch of ones that were only available as, like, mystery. So I think this is all of the end cap color ones and even one of the full color mystery ones along with all of the transparent and new retro transparent drivers. Yeah, so people have been posting the heck out of their new screwdrivers and really enjoying the look of them. I actually have seen there's, there's quite a few really good ones of people posting the new. Oh yeah, here, this is the very. This is the top post on the subreddit right now. Like, damn, how freaking awesome is that?

[Luke Lafreniere]

Wow, that looks great.

[Linus Sebastian]

Right? And it's like, it's there, there's a, there's a bunch of people posting this stuff. I'll see if I can find it. Blah, blah, blah. Oh, hold on a second. It has. I'm not. Oh wait, I am logged in. I don't know what. I don't know whose account I'm on right now, so I don't know how it's sorting anything. Okay, neat. Let's not worry too much about that because there's like week old posts that are coming up, but lately there's been a bunch good stuff. Why is this logged into someone's Reddit account? I'm going to log it out. Cool. Good chat.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Is it just the, the email? That's.

[Linus Sebastian]

I don't know. Okay, let's. Let's not worry too much about that.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah, that's good.

[Linus Sebastian]

Cool. Good chat. Oh, this is an interesting one from. We were actually, we meant to talk about this last week, but speaking of, you know, insiders spilling the beans, a. An alleged former Amazon developer for Amazon Go reached out to me to correct the record on the AI in these stores just being remote human. So you remember when. What. What is it? What is that thing where AI stands for actually? Indians.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Oh, yeah, yeah.

[Linus Sebastian]

Okay. Yeah, so it broke a little while ago that the Amazon Go store was allegedly just humans.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Mechanical Turk.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah, Mechanical Turking the cashierless checkout and the machine.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Mechanical Turk is an Amazon product, so in this case it probably would have literally been Mechanical Turk.

[Linus Sebastian]

However, a programmer who says that they worked on the Amazon Go technology reached out to me to say, hey, that's not actually really true. In fact, they claim that the reporting on that Mechanical Turk story was basically akin to journalistic malpractice because 80% of the actions observed in store were high confidence and were actually handled entirely by the machine learning models, while only 20% ish were mid or low confidence and were sent to be reviewed by Mechanical Turkish for accuracy. The emailer also wanted to make it clear that they are not an Amazon bootlicker and were recently fired. And I'm Going to not share the last part of their anecdote. But it's really funny.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Really.

[Linus Sebastian]

But it would make it really easy to identify them.

[Luke Lafreniere]

That's probably fair. But it's very funny. It makes me, if, if real. Makes me really for sure believe this person.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah. I'm sorry, I would love to tell you guys, but I think I do not want to. I do not want to out them.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah.

[Linus Sebastian]

And this would probably, I guarantee you they're the only person who did this thing that they say they did to sort of demonstrate that they're not an Amazon bootlicker. So they just wanted us to know that the way that the story presented it was not really fair and mechanical Turk was used for quality control. It doesn't really change that. Clearly they ran into a lot of the same challenges that self driving vehicles have been running into where the first 80% is, you know, doable without the, you know, the heaviest lift. And then it's that, it's that last little bit. It's the edge cases that you have to solve for that are the hardest part that make a project like this but potentially no longer cost effective. And so ultimately they're obviously not working on that anymore. Amazon did can the program as far as I'm aware. But no, it also wasn't just a bunch of people watching security camera feeds and you know, entering your, your, your checkout data.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah. Okay. Team Viewer.

[Linus Sebastian]

Team Viewer. Oh yeah, sure.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Did we do sponsors?

[Linus Sebastian]

We have one more. But we can talk about TeamViewer first. I'm so irritated. It's not news.

[Luke Lafreniere]

What do we do?

[Linus Sebastian]

But I'm just really annoyed.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Like something's got to be done.

[Linus Sebastian]

The team viewer community is really upset about this. Hey, my perpetual license was deactivated for remote access, so only LAN mode works. Like what? I'm not asking for updates or new features. I'm simply asking for my original remote access functionality, which existed at the time of purchase, to not be taken away. Disabling the main feature of a perpetual license is effectively a termination or downgrade of the license. I want you to fix this. Yeah, we're on the same ship. I hope they change heart. Yeah, they're not. They're not going to. They are not taking enough flack for this. So let's help with that. And hey, don't use Team Viewer. Cool. Oh no. Karashi says we were hit by this at work. Ended up being strong armed into paying for a discounted subscription license. Why would you give them your business? Use something else. There are other problems. There are Other programs, guys. No.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Do we make like a video guide on getting yourself out of Team Viewer?

[Linus Sebastian]

That's a pretty good idea because we still have stuff we use it for internally and we're gonna have to get rid of it. So, like, we need to get rid.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Of it like now because I'm thinking like, we got to do something. They have to. They deserve to be struck.

[Linus Sebastian]

I'm down. Is that something that like Labs wants to work on potentially?

[Luke Lafreniere]

I mean, in prep, we could probably. It seems a little out of use case, but.

[Linus Sebastian]

Does it?

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah, I think so. Are we. Are we testing?

[Linus Sebastian]

I have no idea. I mean, latency would matter. I don't.

[Dan]

Adequate remote viewer service. I'm just.

[Linus Sebastian]

You know what, I'm going to add it. I'll add it to the. I'll add it to the pile.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Okay.

[Linus Sebastian]

All right. Yeah, let's work on alternative to Team Viewer because. Yeah, just like, I don't know. Team Viewer, basically.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah. Big time.

[Linus Sebastian]

I'm very sorry to hear that your company is still giving the money because if you cancel perpetual licenses, you should just. You should just not be allowed to continue to exist.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah, big time.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah. A lot of people are talking about Rust Desk. Apparently it's free and open source and can be self hosted, which is not the sales pitch that you really think it is for. For a lot of organizations. Maybe it can also. Here, I'm going to your screen. Okay.

[Luke Lafreniere]

It does not have to be self hosted.

[Linus Sebastian]

Okay, that's good. That's cool.

[Luke Lafreniere]

It's really cool that they have a self hosted option. There are a bunch of places that will not want that.

[Linus Sebastian]

People are talking about Ninja rmm. I mean, if you're looking to avoid a subscription, that sure as heck is not going to be the way that you're going to want to go. What else we got?

[Luke Lafreniere]

Apparently Pancrats knows a bunch of options.

[Linus Sebastian]

Float viewer. Confirmed. No. Noah Deboss asks, how about Parsec? To my knowledge, Parsec doesn't do mobile. That's a. That was a big one for us is we needed something that worked mobile to desktop and desktop to mobile without.

[Luke Lafreniere]

This is not a prepped topic. Without knowing competitors or anything. Parsec has been really nice for video editing stuff internally.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah. Evan Benjamin says Parsec is only on Android, not on iOS based. I mean. No, that's not. That's not a competitive advantage for them, Luke.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Maybe they'll figure it out eventually.

[Linus Sebastian]

All right. Well, yeah, maybe this is something that we'll. We'll look into to. On the writing side and then we'll go from there.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I mean, we're. Labs would be happy to, like, test something if you want something tested here. It just.

[Linus Sebastian]

It. Yeah, yeah, that's fine. That's fair enough. You know, labs is lazy. I get it. No, I'm just kidding.

[Luke Lafreniere]

All right, we'll do the whole video. It'll be like.

[Linus Sebastian]

We'll just rebrand the channel Labs Tech tips. Forget that Linus guy. Who needs them?

[Luke Lafreniere]

I'm gonna make a labs channel.

[Linus Sebastian]

I'll just do WAN show. I'll do half of WAN show, actually.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah, yeah. Get it right.

[Linus Sebastian]

All right. Why don't we do our second sponsor? Read here. The show is brought to you by Motion Gray. What? What now?

[Luke Lafreniere]

Tordurk said, testing your patience is a kind of testing.

[Linus Sebastian]

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[Luke Lafreniere]

Nice.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah. Radon man says. What is a glizzy? I assume that it's a hot dog.

[Luke Lafreniere]

It's a hot dog. You know, for Labs's last quarterly event, we did. We did fine dining and curling.

[Linus Sebastian]

Oh, okay. That's cool.

[Luke Lafreniere]

The fine dining was Costco.

[Linus Sebastian]

Nice. Nice.

[Luke Lafreniere]

So we went to the Costco food court and piled up like a huge. We. I borrowed one of the, like, you know, cardboard box things that you can get when you're at Costco. And we just filled it up mostly with hot dogs, but there was other things in there as well.

[Linus Sebastian]

Get some pizza of the. The gra. The fries with the gravy.

[Luke Lafreniere]

There was pizza. There's. Everyone could, like, order, basically, whatever. And then we got a few.

[Linus Sebastian]

Did anyone get a chicken?

[Luke Lafreniere]

No, because we didn't go into Costco.

[Linus Sebastian]

Did I tell you my son pulled that move a little while ago?

[Luke Lafreniere]

Just a whole rotisserie chicken.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah, he just like we were getting lunch at the, at the deli. It wasn't actually at Costco, but it was like at a grocery store that had rotisserie chickens and everyone was like getting like a, you know, like a meal thing and he just got an entire rotisserie chicken sick. And I was like, are you going to eat all that? And he's like, I'm 13.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Protein. Goals accomplished.

[Linus Sebastian]

So anyway, carry on.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah, that's a good answer.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I was going to say. Yeah. And it was, I was stunned at how cheap it was to feed like a large amount of people.

[Linus Sebastian]

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[Luke Lafreniere]

Transit, the user, which is like so pathetic, they didn't even Indiana Jones it properly.

[Linus Sebastian]

I know, right?

[Luke Lafreniere]

Criminals, man.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah, I know.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Joke.

[Linus Sebastian]

I know. So Basically found in their own investigation that the package gained weight in transit and got Best Buy to finally agree to refund and to Best Buy his credit. Even price match the original deal. The buyer, and this is hilarious, apparently got a commemorative tattoo from their girlfriend to. Well, I guess if it's a commemorative tattoo, then it's to commemorate the ordeal. But I'm actually, I'm not finding that image.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I do. It's the very last one. I've got it. Blink.

[Linus Sebastian]

Nice. So it was a. It was a tough gaming gpu. So that's the ASUS Tough Gaming logo on a rock, which is pretty funny.

[Luke Lafreniere]

That's actually pretty good. It does look like the logo is glowing and everything. That's pretty cool.

[Linus Sebastian]

This is one of those ones where it's like. I can see. I can definitely see both sides of the story. I mean, Best Buy must get. See, that's the thing about fraudsters is they will find any opportunity to fraud. And so Best Buy probably does get a lot of fraudulent.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I got bricks in my GPU box, dude. I. Yeah, I worked there. This happened all the time, actually. All the time.

[Linus Sebastian]

So I can understand why they're just like.

[Luke Lafreniere]

People would buy her dir.

[Linus Sebastian]

Forget it.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Xbox 360s and return them without the hard drives. Obvious what's going on there. Customer service person wouldn't notice because they don't necessarily. They're not necessarily familiar with Xbox 360s or whatever. They'd be. Yeah, they'd be missing stuff all the time. Why buy an accessory when you can just like steal it?

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah, right. Yeah. So I can understand that. But also, like, this stuff does happen. Stuff does get stolen in transit. And so I. This user was rightfully outraged. And the fact that it was so easy to investigate and find out that, yeah, when this package was weighed, it stopped weighing the same. It just feels like Best Buy didn't even want to solve it.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I don't think they did.

[Linus Sebastian]

And the dumbest part is that because of the way that this happened, Best Buy should actually be entitled to compensation from the courier. This is the courier's problem. This is not Best Buys liability. So that that shopper was one tough customer.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I feel like Dan was prepped for that. It's like loaded and ready.

[Dan]

I was hover handing it.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah, yeah.

[Luke Lafreniere]

You know, like that old movie from Prob. I'm assuming when we were relatively young of that kid who played baseball and his arm would like, you'd hear it like. And then he'd let go and it would fire off and he ended up playing in, like, professional leagues. Do you have any idea what I'm talking. Does anyone know what I'm talking about? Rookie of the Year. Rookie of the Year.

[Linus Sebastian]

Okay. Yeah, no, I've never seen it.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah, this is it.

[Linus Sebastian]

Wow.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Pancrat's had that on deck, dude. But, yeah, that. That. That was Dan right there.

[Linus Sebastian]

Okay, 1993.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Ready to hit the bell.

[Linus Sebastian]

Okay, I probably should have. I probably should have seen that one. I'm. I'm the right age.

[Luke Lafreniere]

40% on rotten tomatoes, so maybe not.

[Linus Sebastian]

Ooh, yikes. I mean, I pulled out Air Bud, which probably isn't rated much better.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah, but Air Bud is legendary. I mean, Rookie of the Year is legendary for me, but it might not be for. For other people.

[Linus Sebastian]

Dude. I don't know. There's some pretty good movies that are rated pretty bad. Yeah. Airbuds, a 50 and a 40 from the audience, so not so much. But this is gonna blow your mind. The Boontok Saints is rated 26. By critics. I had no idea.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Wait, by critics? Okay.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Who cares about that?

[Linus Sebastian]

No, seriously, though.

[Luke Lafreniere]

But, like, wait, with Dan, would that clack.

[Dan]

I was gonna say that would definitely go on the list.

[Luke Lafreniere]

That would work for your thing.

[Dan]

100%. That is a movie to watch.

[Linus Sebastian]

How? And like, okay, listen, I haven't watched that movie since I was in my late teens, early 20s, so maybe. Maybe stylistically, artistically, it's a crap movie. Maybe it has a bad plot or it's full of cliches and tropes or, you know, whatever. Maybe, Maybe. But, like, I remember enjoying it a lot.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I thought it was cool. It's been forever since I've seen it, but I thought it was cool. Critics consensus. A juvenile, ugly movie that represents the worst tendencies of directors channeling Tarantino.

[Linus Sebastian]

Well, I thought it was awesome.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah, I thought it was pretty cool.

[Linus Sebastian]

But again, I haven't seen it since I was quite young. Who did direct this? Troy Duffy. What else have you directed? Oh, okay, not much. The sequel to Boondock Saints, which nobody liked, and whatever the heck, Guest House is a zero percenter.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Whoa.

[Linus Sebastian]

Wow. This guy looks like he just watched Guest House.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah. Really? I don't know if I've ever seen Zero.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah, that one that I was almost in but got cut out of was a zero for a while.

[Luke Lafreniere]

That makes sense.

[Linus Sebastian]

I think it's 1% now.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Oh.

[Linus Sebastian]

Oh, it's up to 4%, probably. Yeah. It only takes two people to give it.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Amazon reviews came in.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah. The plot is ludicrous. It's a true desktop disaster.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I hope that person Knew what they were doing.

[Linus Sebastian]

I hope so, too. They didn't spell it right, though.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Maybe they. They didn't then. Luda.

[Linus Sebastian]

All right, what else we got for today?

[Luke Lafreniere]

Apple find $116 million over app. Actually, no, let's. Let's go to this one because people keep posting about it. Where is it? We don't have notes for this. Corsair cancels orders and increases prices. This was mentioned in the pre show just from some people in chat. This is not a prepared topic, but we have a link over to, I guess our subreddit that is talking about Corsair's subreddit and some of what's going on. Again, because this is not a prepared topic. We don't have a lot of notes for this, but apparently, theoretically, what's happening is Corsair is canceling orders and. Yeah, then hiking prices. I think I read. No. Yeah. In this one. If I scroll down here and this is still on the line of Detective subreddit. So I haven't actually gone to Corsair subreddit yet, but this person shared this photo. Yeah, I had my RAM order canceled by them. To be fair, it was definitely pricing error on their part. 48 gigabytes of DDR5 for 200 bucks, but still very disappointing. The prices for the same ran is now double now. And you can see this screenshot that basically says it was a system error. So they cancelled it on you and they tried to offer a gesture of goodwill. 15% off your next order.

[Linus Sebastian]

Okay.

[Luke Lafreniere]

People are saying in. In chat, I read this earlier that in some areas of the world, maybe not where this is happening, maybe this is only happening in the States, I don't know. But in some areas in the world, this is illegal, apparently. But I don't know if it's illegal where they're doing it. I don't know where they're doing it. Again, this is a fairly unprepared topic, but pretty crazy. Especially while tensions are rather high over ram. And most of the posts that I'm seeing about this is RAM stuff.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah, Okay.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah, I don't know. There's a lot of these posts. There's actually quite a few of them scrolling through the Corsair subreddit.

[Linus Sebastian]

Okay.

[Luke Lafreniere]

But I don't necessarily have a ton to say about it.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah, I don't know if it's actually a pricing error, then it is what it is. And it's actually kind of nice of them to offer a 15% discount if it's not a pricing error and it's Just pricing going up and them not accounting for it and updating things quickly enough. That is a pricing error of sorts. But it's not a pricing error like a. Like a data input error in the way that we would typically think of a pricing error. And the fact that this is happening on complete systems kind of leads me to believe that it could be the latter, in which case it's not very cool. Either way, it's again, not a prepared topic.

[Luke Lafreniere]

We don't really know what's going on.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah, it's going to be down to sort of following this up with your local consumer protection bureau, assuming that you have one and otherwise, or just. Or just ordering RAM from another.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Apparently they've cranked up the discount. Here's an updated message that I found on a thread. Oh, we are not on a thread. This is a post itself. Sorry, I don't read it enough. Truly understandable. 40% off a single DRAM product of your choice.

[Linus Sebastian]

Okay, was the other one 40 for a full system, though? Because I could see 10% off a full system being.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I'm not sure. But what I do see here at the bottom says the original 15% coupon remains valid for other components on our web store.

[Linus Sebastian]

Got it. So that was probably for a system. Oh, okay, Interesting.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Sounds more like DRAM to me.

[Linus Sebastian]

So what this tells me then is Corsair has some stock probably of DRAM that they are, that is at old contract pricing, and they're able to use some of the margin that they have on their DRAM that they have at the old pricing as pricing is going up to offer a discount. And I mean, that's something at least.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah. All right, again, don't know all the details, blah, blah, blah. Insert various caveats.

[Linus Sebastian]

Oh, speaking of the LTT subreddit before anyone notices it and goes. Sorry, what? Oh, shoot. I can't. I can't see a list of moderators without being logged in. But I am officially a moderator on the subreddit now. This is not because our plan is to, you know, be meanies and censor people, but can I make a new.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Account and you flag me as me, then?

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah, I can do that.

[Luke Lafreniere]

So I can't recover my old Reddit account.

[Linus Sebastian]

Oh, okay.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Unless someone watching, like, knows people at Reddit and can help me.

[Linus Sebastian]

Oh, I mean, that's probably true too.

[Luke Lafreniere]

That would be awesome, because I can't recover my old Reddit account.

[Linus Sebastian]

Cool.

[Luke Lafreniere]

It seems like when we migrated from LastPass to Keeper, maybe that password didn't come along long and I never attached it to an email because you at least used to be able to do that on Reddit. So there seems to be no way for me to recover the account. I can log into it. I just have to boot up my old computer, which still has an active session for whatever reason. It's been like, you know, I'm pretty sure the time gap in which I tried it was like over six months. And then it just, it worked no problem. But even being logged into the account, I can't do anything to recover it or set a new password. So I have been locked out.

[Linus Sebastian]

Cool. So yeah, the goal is not to, you know, be mean or anything like that, but I'm also not going to claim that if I see someone who's a complete bad faith dumb dumb that they will continue to have posting privileges. So make of that what you will. So for instance, there's a thread about the new true spec cables. And you know, these are going to be the new monster cable and they're going to be have absurd pricing and you can just, I don't know, post on other subreddits, I guess because you don't actually have evidence for the claim that you're making.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I think if the community counters that person significantly enough, it might even be good to leave it up.

[Linus Sebastian]

Why?

[Luke Lafreniere]

So that people can see that an argument for that was made and immediately discounted. But, I mean, that's all. Your call.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah, all right, duly noted.

[Luke Lafreniere]

It's just a. Just an idea. I think there will be cases where that makes sense and there will be plenty of cases where that does not make sense.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah, I don't know. I think, I think buddy here who says I've always wanted to buy expensive overpriced USB cables but didn't feel like going to Best Buy. I think they can just take a vacation though. Like, do they. What? Why? Why do they need to be here? I mean, the hate watchers need somewhere to post, but they could post somewhere else.

[Luke Lafreniere]

There are other places.

[Linus Sebastian]

There are other places where people can post. That is an option. It's 100% an option. I'll think about it. So far I have not, I have not banned anyone, but I don't know. That's not necessarily a guarantee is all I'm saying. And to be clear, this is not down to. So people in chat are saying dissenting opinions are okay, so here's the problem. This is not a product that they have seen. It's not a product that they know anything about.

[Luke Lafreniere]

If we reviewed things site unseen, you'd.

[Linus Sebastian]

Be pissed yeah, you'd hate it. You'd say that we've completely lost all credibility and any right to offer up up an opinion on things if we just said stuff completely without any precedent for it or any evidence. It's just completely bad faith engagement and there's really no need for it now.

[Luke Lafreniere]

If someone wants to review the cables, that's totally different. Go for it.

[Linus Sebastian]

That's totally different. We've even highlighted reviews of our products that contain negative sentiments here on the wan show. Yeah, we're open to that. But if you're just trashing on something that you don't know anything about, you don't know the pricing, you don't know the quality and you're just saying it's bad. You have outed yourself. You've outed yourself as a non credible, non serious person. No, that's not, that's not the same thing, guys. You don't get to have an opinion about something that you don't actually know literally anything about. Demonstrably you don't know anything about. It just kind of doesn't really work like that. Unique username asks will you delete comments that assume the product is great without them having seen it or having evidenced otherwise? I don't think I saw any.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Sorry, say that again, I wasn't listening.

[Linus Sebastian]

Will you also delete someone who assumes that the product is great without them having seen it or having it be evidenced otherwise? I will say that I banned someone on the YouTube channel who was, who was spamming an inaccurate defense of some scandal that we had. So they, they were like rah rah rah, super pro ltt also not helpful about something and there was misinformation in their defense. So I shadow banned them. So no, I'm not interested in people white knighting inaccurately. However. That one requires a think. That one definitely requires a think. Kinjara says you get to have an opinion on anything. It's an opinion.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah, but. Yeah, but you can not a. It's not a government public forum.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah, you can go have that opinion anywhere. You can do it somewhere else.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I don't, I don't personally like, I think there are so. I used to be really rah rah about moderation standards on, on in certain ways and blah blah blah blah. But I think the Internet is so huge now.

[Linus Sebastian]

You and I were like militantly nothing should be deleted.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah.

[Linus Sebastian]

For a very long time the, the.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Only like primary rule on the forum was that you can attack us too, but no personal attacks against other people. And like that's even. That's like really, really open. But now there's just. There's just. It's so easy to mass generate accounts. It's so easy to AI spam with things. There's so much like groupthink hatred for everything you could possibly ever imagine. I'm not even just talking about us at all, to be clear. And it's so easy to hijack a community with surprisingly little effort to just make it a terrible place. And it's so common now that I just. I just don't really care anymore. There are 10 million other places on the Internet more than that that you can go. It's not like we're like taking your house from you. Like, it's literally Reddit. There's probably more subreddits than that. Oh, there are also other subreddits that will talk about us and our stuff.

[Linus Sebastian]

Binky Draws says, I'm a moderator on a medium sized Discord server and there's a huge problem with bot accounts.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah, like it's, it's. It's actually unreasonable to do, in my opinion, what would be considered as like, old style of moderation anymore. Yeah.

[Linus Sebastian]

And there's a big difference between saying that you feel that the cables might be overpriced and low quality versus saying definitively that it is.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah, sure.

[Linus Sebastian]

Huge difference. All right, what else we got going on here? Oh, Nvidia and AMD rumored to be preparing GPU price hikes in Q1 of 2026. And adding some weight to this, an Asus letter has allegedly leaked announcing price hikes starting January 5th. Which means that it could be our. It could be our last positive. How much is The Intel ARC B580 investigation check? Is the B580 still MSRP? Oh, God. What is this?

[Luke Lafreniere]

Oh.

[Linus Sebastian]

Oh, no. Are you kidding me? Wait, wait, wait. Oh, out of stock.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Is that what I stock too?

[Linus Sebastian]

No. Yeah, I'm down into. I'm down into all the out of stock stuff. No, was last week the last one. Dan, don't tell people to panic. Why would you tell people to panic? It's all going wrong. Why would you. Why would you spread. Why would you spread panic? Literally. Literally spreading panic. Burn down your village. Okay, hold on, hold on. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Oh, an open box. That's an open box. Wait, but hold on.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Is this a shift in USD cad? No, it's more.

[Linus Sebastian]

This is us.

[Luke Lafreniere]

What is their msrp?

[Linus Sebastian]

Oh, no, this. Yeah, I'm on the US site, dude.

[Luke Lafreniere]

So what is it supposed to be again?

[Linus Sebastian]

249 for the B580. And the lowest one is 299. It hit the holiday bundle is still there, but it's over. B580 at MSRP party is over.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Oh, boy.

[Linus Sebastian]

No, No. Oh, that is such a downer. Sell, sell, sell. Dump it. Dan, stop it. You are not. You are the definition of not helping. Jeez. All right, what about Canada? Okay, B580. Can computers. Are you gonna let me down here? Okay, online. Sold out. Online. Available for 400. That's way over 250. No, no, no. It's 300 US now. Oh, this is probably not the end of it either. All right, 359 from Newegg. Reports out of Korea say. No, there was one for 2.99. Reports out of Korea say that.

[Luke Lafreniere]

No CAD.

[Linus Sebastian]

Sorry, what?

[Luke Lafreniere]

CAD?

[Linus Sebastian]

Oh, where on Newegg? Yeah, Is it in stock?

[Luke Lafreniere]

I don't see a thing that says stock, to be honest.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah, Add to cart. I think you're good.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Boom.

[Linus Sebastian]

Okay, so you can still get them at Newegg Canada for about 249 US actually, it's a touch higher, but it's.

[Luke Lafreniere]

A little bit higher.

[Linus Sebastian]

It's not too bad.

[Luke Lafreniere]

It's often how that goes.

[Linus Sebastian]

All right, do I get to finish the sentence now?

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yes.

[Linus Sebastian]

I'm having a very luke experience. Reports out of Korea.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I have to do it again.

[Linus Sebastian]

That Nvidia and AMD are planning to jack up GPU prices throughout the show in early 2026. And the top end GeForce RTX 5090 could end up around $5,000, which is more than double what it first launched for. Memory costs and broader GPU supply issues are squeezing component prices. And makers are said to be shifting more of their production towards AI and data centers, which will boost prices across the board. The hikes are expected to happen in steps throughout Q1, 2026, affecting not only flagship cards, but a range of consumer GPUs. Meanwhile, Asus sent partners a notice that starting January 5th of 2026, it will raise prices on some of its products right before CES gets going. Roughly translated, asus's letter doesn't list exact models. It just says they're doing strategic price adjustments on certain product combinations. Discussion. Question. In your time as a tech enthusiast, can you remember a worse start to the new year for the tech industry? Price hikes and shortages seems like a pretty bad way to kick off 2026. I don't know. It's. This is a tough one because on the one hand, there's A lot of bad news. This is all bad news. Wancho has kind of become bad news show. Yeah, but. And this is part of. Remember that, that conversation we had over the kind of last couple of weeks about sort of the bright side, bright side of tech and gaming. This is one of the things that made its way into the full LTT video on this. Okay, you can go to PC part picker right now and you can select magnificent AMD gaming and streaming build. And this thing really is magnificent. It has a 9800x3D, the fastest gaming processor known to mankind. It has a sick thermal. Right. Giant dual tower cooler. It has B580 Pro, a motherboard or whatever. You could get some other motherboard if you really want. Actually, apparently this one's out of stock. Let's see, everything else is either. Oh, hold on. We might be in trouble. Okay. When I looked earlier this week, this particular GPU was in stock. No.

[Luke Lafreniere]

At time of filming.

[Linus Sebastian]

At time of filming. Hold on. Let's try and find another one. I'm gonna find one. I'm gonna find one. Just a sec, just a second. I'm gonna recover this.

[Luke Lafreniere]

There's two different magnificent builds.

[Linus Sebastian]

Hold on, hold on.

[Luke Lafreniere]

There's an intel and an AMD.

[Linus Sebastian]

Oh, what am I doing? Getting distracted. RTX 5080. Okay. Okay, here we go, Here we go. Okay, so for 11.11.99. Okay, so it's a little more. That's a little more. It is 17 $16 more. Okay, so that's fine. My point stands. So you just got to go find a motherboard, which is fine. Okay, well, so we'll pay at most, maybe another like 30, 40 bucks. Okay, everything else here is in stock. Cool. Okay, so this is a sick system. 32 gigs of DDR5, 6000 CL30 memory. It's a nice little memory kit. 2 TB. This is a Samsung 980 Pro. That's a nice SSD. Okay. RTX 5080 ARGB. Quick case from Corsair. You could save a few bucks by not going Corsair. Thousand watt 80 plus gold modular power supply. This is a sick build for, let's call it 2650 US dollars if we're.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Looking at the guides page of PC Part Picker. Which one, maybe top two, do you think people are actually building?

[Linus Sebastian]

Hold on, hold on. That's not quite the point.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Okay, I think it matters, but. All right.

[Linus Sebastian]

The point is that we did a 4k gaming system build guide 11 years ago. Putting together a top spec gaming machine was $4,000. At that time, the 4K build was 4K. I actually remember joking about that at the time. So is it bad? Well, yeah, it's definitely bad that this RAM is more expensive than it was. It's definitely bad that GPU prices are going up. But gaming and tech have still kind of been there for us in a pretty big way. The fact that I can buy an absolute monster of a machine for 2500 bucks compared to the way that everything else in our lives is going up, it's pretty cool. It could be better.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah.

[Linus Sebastian]

I'd love it if it was better.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah. I also think, like, the. The disproportional hit is not on people buying the magnificent build.

[Linus Sebastian]

And that's true. And that's true. It's rough.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah. It was like, even if you're going for the great. And like, I did scroll down here. I noticed there's the entry. And modest are like, way below the fold.

[Linus Sebastian]

Hold on. Have a. Have a click on the entry level one, though. Because, like, I remember building an entry level system for myself back in the sort of mid to late 2000s, and it didn't even have a dedicated GPU. I'm willing to bet this has a dedicated GPU.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah. B580.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah.

[Luke Lafreniere]

So, like, showing an MSRP B580.

[Linus Sebastian]

Oh, yeah, there you go. B and H apparently has stock. What? Out of stock.

[Dan]

Oh, in stock.

[Linus Sebastian]

Oh, okay. That looked. That didn't look green. It looked gray. It looked like a gray circle with a slash through it.

[Luke Lafreniere]

From here. I think it is gray. It's just a check mark, but it's okay.

[Linus Sebastian]

That's really stupid. B and H. You should probably use the color green for that. Just convention. That's my opinion, which I'm entitled to have.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah. You know, you could get banned.

[Linus Sebastian]

I could. They're allowed to ban me from their site.

[Luke Lafreniere]

They are allowed to.

[Linus Sebastian]

They're actually allowed to do that. Yeah.

[Luke Lafreniere]

The 32 gigs of RAM for 179 is surprising.

[Linus Sebastian]

So, yes, you know, it could be. It could be. It could be better. But I also do feel like some of this is people just kind of piling on to an issue. And I rage baiting, and I don't.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Think it's rage baiting. I think. I think you're.

[Linus Sebastian]

You don't think people posting like a $2,000 RAM kit is rage baiting A little bit. Nobody was buying that anyway.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Maybe a little bit.

[Linus Sebastian]

Even if it was a thousand dollars.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I'm sure there's some of that. This does still definitely suck for People.

[Linus Sebastian]

It does.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Especially, especially on the lower end where like a. Because I. If I remember correctly, the magnificent build, that RAM cost was a. Was like a little bit more than 10%. Yeah, yeah, it was on some of these entry ones. I'm assuming this is like a really significant punch, like when we're looking at great AMD gaming builds. Yeah, I haven't even clicked at this one yet. Let's see. Yeah, like the RAM being 314 on a system that is. Where is it? 1387.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yep.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Is going to push past people's limits to the point where they might have to step down.

[Linus Sebastian]

Hold on. Can you go back to that one though?

[Luke Lafreniere]

Sure.

[Linus Sebastian]

But let's. Again, let's look at the bigger picture here. So this is a really nice six core processor. What kind of GPU do we have in here? We have a 50. Ooh. We have a 5060 Ti GameStop SSD. Okay. No, this build sucks.

[Luke Lafreniere]

What is a GameStop? I didn't know GameStop had.

[Linus Sebastian]

I might just generally have kind of issues with this build though, because. What on earth are you doing using.

[Luke Lafreniere]

What is this?

[Linus Sebastian]

Oh, this is a thing. Yeah, it is a thing.

[Luke Lafreniere]

That's wild. Sorry, I had no idea.

[Linus Sebastian]

At this budget you should be using a stock cooler though. You should not be using an X chip which just saved you probably about 40 bucks. What else do we have here? Oh, that 5060 ti is not the choice. So you should just be using an arc B580 which just saved you another hundred plus dollars. No, not 100 plus. Oh yeah, which just saved you like another $150. Also, if I'm spending $70 on a case, I'm sure as heck not getting a Montech. And I do not need a 750 watt power supply. That's a crappy build.

[Luke Lafreniere]

This is where I think in this price range you're going to benefit from at least doing a. At the very least a bit of a hybrid approach. Try to get your Casey used or something. I would for sure get one on Facebook Marketplace.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah, this is, this is not.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I haven't priced out a rig in a long time. I'm not going to comment.

[Linus Sebastian]

But yeah, that's. That's not a good. That's not a well configured build.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Is it possible that it was at one point and then pricing changes made it worse?

[Linus Sebastian]

That is possible, but also it's just like got too big of a power supply, which is great if you're trying to future proof, but if you're targeting like around a thousand to eleven Hundred dollars. Then you're, in my opinion, better off getting what you need.

[Luke Lafreniere]

750 watt. Yeah, you'd want to spec down from that.

[Linus Sebastian]

Dude, if I'm, if I'm running an RTX 4060, like what is an already RTX 4060 even use? Like 200 watts or something?

[Luke Lafreniere]

5060 tx ti?

[Linus Sebastian]

I'm not sure or, sorry, what was it?

[Luke Lafreniere]

5060 ti.

[Linus Sebastian]

Okay, let me check what a 50, 60 ti is because I don't think it uses a ton of power. Yeah, it's, it's 180 watt card.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I just found it.

[Linus Sebastian]

And then you have a 95. You have a 95 watt CPU. What are you doing buying a 750 watt power supply for this?

[Luke Lafreniere]

I don't know how much money you're gonna save going down to 650 or 550 or something.

[Linus Sebastian]

It adds up though. Yeah, because you could save 20 bucks on your case. You could save 30. What, what is about 40 bucks on your CPU and cooler? You can save what, another 15, 20 bucks on your power supply. You could save 100, 150 bucks on your GPU. Okay, now we're talking about an appreciable difference in how much you're paying for this computer. Like it's, this is what I spent years of my life doing on the NCIX forums is saving $3 on this and $10 on that and 15 bucks on this and $4 on that. And all of a sudden you saved some more Fans. You saved $100 on your system. That's a free copy of Windows back when people bought that.

[Luke Lafreniere]

What? No one ever did.

[Linus Sebastian]

Oh yeah, that's a lie, dude. Do you have any idea how many system invoices I have looked at in my life? People buy Windows. This is going to be mind blowing for many, many members of our audience. Many members of our audience. People definitely, definitely buy Windows.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I'm just scrolling through some of the power supplies. You're not going to save a ton, but you might save 10 bucks.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah, which is, hey, 10 bucks is 10 bucks. Especially if you don't need modular like. Oh wait, hold on. Was that one modular?

[Luke Lafreniere]

Okay, the one in the build?

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Well, I mean it's like 10 trillion different ones, I think.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah, it's modular, so that's part of the filters. You do not need a modular power supply in $1,000 build. That's, that's silly. You should not be doing that. So people are just, they're making unwise decisions in the configuration and knowing how.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Long a Lot of the power supplies I've had have lasted. I might want to get a, a bit higher wattage modular one, knowing that I can carry it into my next build.

[Linus Sebastian]

Sure, but then you're going to be making compromises that I personally would consider to be unacceptable at that budget. At that budget.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I'm dollars more on a power supply if I think I can carry it into my next build.

[Linus Sebastian]

It all adds up. I mean, but that's how you end up spending a little more on every component because you could, I could make the same justification across the board. You don't need 32 gigs of Ram today.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah, I don't know if that's valid.

[Linus Sebastian]

You like it?

[Luke Lafreniere]

I don't know if saying you can do that for every component is valid though. There are power supplies that have lasted a what, hot minute?

[Linus Sebastian]

No, no, that's not what I'm saying. I'm saying that, that, that rationale, that, that well, this could last a little longer if I get a better one. You could say the same thing for the case for sure.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah.

[Linus Sebastian]

Like I'll get a slightly better case.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I think the case.

[Linus Sebastian]

And then you could say the better thing. You could say the better same thing for your CPU cooler. I'll get a better CPU cooler and I'll carry it forward with me to the next build.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Especially if you can get new mounting brackets or make your own.

[Linus Sebastian]

And so my point is. And now all of a sudden you're, you're kind of buying a different class of machine. And when I'm configuring.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Disagree.

[Linus Sebastian]

When I'm configuring a thousand dollar build, I'm focused on performance.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I don't think I'm getting to a different class machine by spending $10 more on my power supply.

[Linus Sebastian]

But you are, you're using a different rationale for how you're choosing your components. Sure, I am choosing my components at that price point based on what this gets me today. If I can get some degree of future proofness out of it, then that's great. But I don't think that a 650 or even a 550 watt power supply is going to meaningfully impact my upgrade path. Because at the end of the day, if I'm someone that's shopping for a 5060 ti today, I am not someone that's shopping for a 7080 in a couple of years. That's a completely different class of product. And if I am, that might be.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Totally legit depending on life stage and.

[Linus Sebastian]

But if I am and my life stage has Changed that much.

[Luke Lafreniere]

You might also get a higher quality power supply. That would take some research, but sure.

[Linus Sebastian]

But if you're looking at, you know, 10 or $20 cheaper, you're still getting a quality unit. You're just getting one that's rated a little lower. And the same way that if my life stage has changed such that I go from shopping for an arc B580 to shopping for a 7080 or something like that, all of a sudden I can afford a fifteen hundred dollar gpu. My life stage has probably changed to the point where I could offload my old system and I could buy a new power supply. Like that's the thing working at the computer store, man, I thought everybody upgrades their computers. People don't upgrade their computers.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I do though.

[Linus Sebastian]

I know you do, which is why your perspective is very interesting. But as someone who worked at the store.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah, but we're talking to people in the community that might actually upgrade their stuff, man. There are some ancient power supplies that are not well priced on Facebook Marketplace. This is rough. Well, look at how old this XFX power supply is. I mean it's also 60 bucks.

[Linus Sebastian]

It's also 45 US dollars. I mean I'd trust that in my system.

[Luke Lafreniere]

It is old.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah. Is that 80 plus gold or bronze? Oh, that's one of their weaker ones. XFX's power supplies from that era were quality though. And I believe this is, this is the all wattage available on the 12 volt rail era. You can, you can double check that by just zooming in really close. Yeah. 744 of this 755 watts is on the 12 volt rail. I would probably check real quick and just make sure that it doesn't have like a virtual multi rail thing that's going to cause OCP to trip. But I believe this is post that as well. So I would, I would probably trust that. Xfx, it's not going to be the most efficient thing in the world, but it should be reliable.

[Luke Lafreniere]

It's just so old.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah, but like so like 3 minutes ago you were like well, power supply, Part of the justification for spending more is I can use it long time.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Buying one without a significant discount that is already ancient.

[Linus Sebastian]

How is it not a significant discount? What's a 750 watt power supply today?

[Luke Lafreniere]

I don't know. In Canada.

[Linus Sebastian]

Well, I mean we can, it doesn't.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Feel like a significant if only.

[Linus Sebastian]

I mean we can't just go on vibes and feelings.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Right. But I'm acknowledging that because we're having a discussion about something that I don't have up to date numbers on. Very reasonable.

[Linus Sebastian]

Okay. Okay. It is a very significant discount.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Okay.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I'd be interested to see from like Lucas or something like grabbing a bunch of old power supplies like that.

[Linus Sebastian]

I. Oh, you know what I wanted to do years ago. Do you remember the video that we did where we got a brand new EVGA 580 GTX and we compared it against one that had been used for like 10 years. Oh. To find out if like, because people, people imagine that their, their silicon devices go slower over time. And we basically had been trying to debunk that for a long time.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Like no vague memory of this. I do have some memory of this.

[Linus Sebastian]

If it runs at MHz x, then it is running at MHz x. Like modern silicon that, you know, has that can. That that dynamically changes its clock speeds. Right. That turbo boosts might turbo less aggressively over time or your thermal interface material might degrade. Right. And that could impact performance. But megahertz is megahertz. I don't make the rules. It runs at the speed it runs at. And if you are imagining that there is some kind of slowdown, it is probably because your demands have increased or the software that you're using is. Well, I guess that's basically just another way of saying your demands have increased and.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Which is almost certainly happening.

[Linus Sebastian]

Which is almost certainly happening. And you imagined it. Or, or you imagined it. Those are, those are basically the two options. And you'd have people swearing up and down that running exactly the same software, exactly the same way, it gets slower over time. So we, we debunked it once and for. We took a brand new sealed in box that EVGA found for us and tested it against an old one that had been on the bench for years and also in someone's system for years. And we ran them through the exact same suite and lo and behold, they performed exactly the same because that's how it works.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Did you, Tim, replace the heavily used one?

[Linus Sebastian]

I don't even think. Well, we didn't because it didn't matter because there was no dynamic clock speed adjustments on the 580. So the point was if it's running at clock speed X, then its performance will be X. It's that simple. And I had wanted to do the same thing for a power supply. I wanted to get my hands on a brand new old model power supply and compare it against one that had been deployed for 10 years or something like that in someone's server closet. Or something. And I was never able to get it together because everyone talks about how you should budget like 10% for capacitor aging, but my understanding is that's actually super ancient. Outdated device. Outdated advice from like the electrolytic era. Capacitor era.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah.

[Linus Sebastian]

Like solid state caps from my understanding of them may decay a little bit, but not to nearly the same degree that those older power supplies did. But I just, I haven't really. I haven't pursued it recently, but I. When I like looked into it and wanted to do it, I wasn't able to find anyone who was able to. To get me an old one.

[Luke Lafreniere]

And.

[Linus Sebastian]

And an untouched MPOC nor 47 in floatplane chat, for the crying out loud. Context matters, they're saying. I understand the point, but megahertz is a terrible metric. I had a Pentium 4 that ran at 3 GHz and my 5800x3 runs at 3.1. Not what I was saying. We're talking 2 of an identical product over time.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Context matters, not IPC improvements and stuff.

[Linus Sebastian]

Sheesh. All right, anywho, What topic are we even on? Oh, okay. We got. No, we were done. New One modders are slapping 32 gigs of VRAM on Nvidia's RTX 5080s. But spoiler, that's not good news for gamers. The modded variants are for AI workstations and servers. Cool. I guess there's really not much to say about it other than that.

[Luke Lafreniere]

What tier of modders is doing this? Like, is this. Could people do this at home?

[Linus Sebastian]

Oh, heavens no.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah, I didn't think so. Yeah, I knew there was some like, you know, back in the Langley house, there was some power mods you could do to cards that were like consumer level doable.

[Linus Sebastian]

I think it was. I think it was. Yeah. This already. Yeah, I think it was Kingpin who. Who cut the back end off of a GPU and like took the like the back end VRM of another GPU and just like soldered them together and ran it.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I might be remembering this incorrectly, I don't know, but I didn't even think he cut one off. I thought he just like, it came out at an angle.

[Linus Sebastian]

He's probably done both if we're being realistic. Yeah. What am I looking at here? Whatever I'm looking at is not something that regular people will be doing.

[Luke Lafreniere]

No, no. So it's pretty sick though.

[Linus Sebastian]

I love that their test platform just is a hunk of copper on the GPU so that it will run long enough for them to verify post. It's just. It is literally a heat sink.

[Luke Lafreniere]

That's awesome.

[Linus Sebastian]

The GPU is sinking heat into this copper slug with no actual active cooling on it whatsoever. Because it's not worth reassembling just to find out if it will post. That is amazing.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I'm saying this to the public, not to you, but you ever seen the Palm Method?

[Linus Sebastian]

I've used it.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah, me too.

[Linus Sebastian]

You just put your hand on the chip and you use human water cooling to keep it from frying itself while you just see if it works.

[Luke Lafreniere]

You gotta go relatively fast. That'll get hot real fast. Um, but.

[Linus Sebastian]

Oh, man. McBain says Linus has not been watching Northridge Fix. Okay, I don't know if this was from Northridge Fix, but I did see a motherboard repair that went viral recently that was mind blowing. Like multi layer pcb.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Oh, yeah, yeah, I saw something about that.

[Linus Sebastian]

Unreal, Unreal.

[Luke Lafreniere]

At that point, you're just flexing, I think.

[Linus Sebastian]

By the way, do as we say, not as we do putting your hand on the chip. People. People in chat are all like, yeah, I've burned myself doing that. Lost a couple fingerprints. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. We're not recommending that. That's a terrible, terrible idea. It's bad for your body. It's bad for the. The electronic device. Cool. Good chat, Apple.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I'll do it again.

[Linus Sebastian]

Apple has been. Apple has been fined 116 million over app privacy prompts. This is wild. Italy's Antitrust authority has fined Apple 98.6 million euro, saying that one of the company's privacy features unfairly restricted competition in the App Store. Hold on a second, though. Regulators were focused on app tracking transparency, Apple's system that requires apps to ask users for permission before tracking them for targeted ads. Italy says Apple forces third party apps to ask for user consent twice, creating extra friction that hurts developers and advertisers who rely on ad revenue.

[Luke Lafreniere]

But that sounds okay.

[Linus Sebastian]

I'm with Apple on this one.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah.

[Linus Sebastian]

100%.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Apple argues the ruling prioritizes ad tech companies over user privacy.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah, yeah.

[Luke Lafreniere]

And says attraction transparency gives users clear control over tracking, which is great. Applies equal equally to all developers, which is great.

[Linus Sebastian]

Well, hold on. Does it apply equally to Apple? No.

[Luke Lafreniere]

The one thing. That's what I thought this was gonna talk about. And does it. Does it actually not apply to Apple? Yeah, I mean, I don't use.

[Linus Sebastian]

I don't know, man. The first time you log into an iPhone, it's pretty full of ads to use. Apple services like Icloud. And stuff like that. I don't know that that necessarily qualifies as a targeted ad, but I would say that an icloud subscription to someone who owns an iPhone. Yeah, I'd call that a targeted ad.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Oh, interesting. Anyway, interesting line.

[Linus Sebastian]

Carry on.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Not saying I disagree, but interesting line. I don't think it's quite the same. No, I understand what you're saying.

[Linus Sebastian]

It also isn't not a targeted ad. Totally.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah.

[Linus Sebastian]

If they know I'm out of storage for my photos and they give me.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Storage based, it feels like it's a little bit more. So they are still technically different things.

[Linus Sebastian]

And they sure as hell aren't offering me a cloud storage option from anyone else. Does Apple do anti competitive things? Yeah. OneDrive for your iPhone, but is app tracking transparency requiring apps to ask users for permission before tracking them? One of them, yeah. That one I'm more with Apple on. And someone asks, is this analogous to OneDrive in Microsoft? Absolutely, yeah. And it's just as ridiculous.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah.

[Linus Sebastian]

See that's the whole thing, right, is I often get told I'm hating on Apple, but I hate it exactly the same if Microsoft does it. So maybe, possibly what I hate is the behavior and the attitude and there's.

[Luke Lafreniere]

A lot of that on Microsoft.

[Linus Sebastian]

Oh.

[Luke Lafreniere]

The decision follows a similar ruling in France earlier this year where Apple was find 150 million euros over the same feature. I like this feature though.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah. I really don't care about anything that Apple does. That is a big middle finger to the targeted ad industry.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Man. Back when I don't. I think this comparison makes sense. Back when Telus was cool, they would call you when your contract was about up and be like, look, we can go kind of two different paths here. We can get you more performance for the same price or same performance for less price. Choose your path. And it was always like, what a great phone call to receive. And then they stopped doing that because they're dumb. I don't have a. I got an email from them like talking about a few things because I called them out for a practice that I was gonna like actually go after them for and then they fix it. So things are good. But I also called that out because I was like, this was such an amazing phone call. I would get a call every like two years, it would be from Telus. I would see Telus on the caller ID and be excited because I was like, nice. I'm either getting faster Internet or less money being taken away. And it was a great call every time. Blah, blah, blah. Their Argument was that like people hated the calls. Like, there is no way that people hated those calls more than their bill going up without them knowing that it's.

[Linus Sebastian]

Happening or their neighbor getting a better deal than they are just because they didn't know.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah. So like there's actually. That's just a BS excuse.

[Linus Sebastian]

And they could have also done it as an email if people don't like the calls.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Definitely figured out that this just like.

[Linus Sebastian]

They could have applied it automatically cost you money. Yeah. Yeah. There were many other. There were many other paths to take.

[Luke Lafreniere]

So like don't tell me the thing.

[Linus Sebastian]

Tim.000x3 says the do not track button on iPhone is the reason that I use iPhone. Yeah, there are apps that I desperately need on Android, but I can't justify it. I could use a hardened version of Android, but the best one to do that with is for the Pixel graphene os shout out. And I don't want to give money to Google. Tim, I have an idea for you. Buy a secondhand Pixel. You can have a Pixel. You can run graphene OS. You can give Google $0. Just. Just an idea. Just a thought.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Pretty good.

[Linus Sebastian]

WGD118 says Linus. Do you have more knowledge about the targeted ad industry now that you're buying a ads for LTT store for the backpack and screwdrivers? I'll be honest with you, I am not buying those ads. I don't know anything more about it other than, you know, what I know from like the news and you know, learning about it and stuff.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah, the. The other part of what I was going to say is whenever my phone mentions like, hey, we noticed that these apps have privacy features on them or whatever and you don't use these apps very much. Do you want to remove their privacy features? That's such a, like, thanks, bro.

[Linus Sebastian]

Such a bro notification.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Thanks for sending me that. I wanted to see that. Thank you very much. Even if I'm like, no, those are fine. Very happy to receive that notification. Just like that Tell us call. There are certain things this app tracking transparency. I want that pop up. That's a great pop up. Thanks for giving me that pop up. Heck yeah. Anyways, moving on. Is that it for topics?

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah, it's After Dark.

[Luke Lafreniere]

You have a thing up here playing Expedition 33.

[Linus Sebastian]

Oh yeah. I'm really enjoying it.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah. Good.

[Linus Sebastian]

I'm playing on the GPD Win five, which is.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Oh, that's the big chonker one, right?

[Linus Sebastian]

No, oh, it's the reasonable sized one that Apple Vision Pro style has a Tether to a battery that, like, you could put in your pocket. Except this is pretty funny.

[Luke Lafreniere]

You just played in bed.

[Linus Sebastian]

I put it in my pocket when I was sitting at the. At the kitchen nook table eating my bedtime cereal that I'm back on because I lost a bunch of weight. So what's the downside?

[Luke Lafreniere]

That's not really how that works, but, hey, whatever.

[Linus Sebastian]

Well, what am I gonna do? Gain back my weight? Like, I'm still exercising, so, like, whatever. Which, honestly, I was clearly calorie in calorie deficit. So if I'm just going to, like, consume some more calories and keep working out. I was. I was playing badminton with a former Canadian Olympian. Was this yesterday? Yeah, yesterday. She's. See, she's super chill. Wrong one.

[Luke Lafreniere]

That would be impressive.

[Linus Sebastian]

There we go. Yeah.

[Luke Lafreniere]

So she came by Smash.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah, she came by SMASH Champs and was hanging with us. And she.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Think of the facilities, her and her.

[Linus Sebastian]

Husband, Bobby Milroy, who is also back in the day, pretty, pretty hardcore. He was a little younger here, but, yeah, absolute. Like, they're older than me and Yvonne, but they were pros.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Right?

[Linus Sebastian]

And it's just.

[Luke Lafreniere]

It shows.

[Linus Sebastian]

It's a completely different level. Like, they can just. They can hit the straight shot. And. And straight shot doesn't mean straight. It just means the. The highest probability shot from that position. Do you kind of get what I mean by that?

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Linus Sebastian]

So they can hit the straight shot and they can like, keep a rally going with us or they can just, like, do like a double. Like a double pump or like, like a weird sort of like, you know, slice shot or whatever. And then just. We call it an ankle breaker. And they can just have you moving completely the wrong direction. Then, like, it goes the other way and they can just like, end the rally kind of anytime they want. Anyway, what was I talking about?

[Luke Lafreniere]

Expedition 33. And then.

[Linus Sebastian]

Oh, yeah, Expedition 33. So anyway, the point is, I've been exercising. I don't care. I'm gonna eat my bedtime cereal, deal with this.

[Luke Lafreniere]

However, that's fine.

[Linus Sebastian]

However, it can lead to problems. See, I was sitting there playing Expedition 33 with the battery in my pocket, and I was actually done eating my cereal, which is good because I had the bowl with just, like, a little bit of milk and. And my spoon, and I went to get up and grab something, and I dragged the. Dragged the GPD Win five off the table, which hit the bowl, which, fortunately it didn't break. Went onto the floor, like, splashed milk everywhere. And everything lived and it Goes to show how changeable our habits can be. Because there was a time in my life when I was constantly attached to a Discman when I would have been sure to gather up all my things before I got up from a table. But I am no longer that man. Bluetooth headphones. I was just gonna say, have changed my habits.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I. I've been, you know, working around the house. Things are getting extremely close to being done. But I've been wearing some Bluetooth headphones while. I'll, like. Maybe I'll sit and do something for a little bit and then go do something else. Whatever.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah.

[Luke Lafreniere]

And I'll do. I'll do this to move the cable that isn't there. And it, like. Like, I'll go to get up and I'll move the cable out of the way so that I'm not gonna, like, step on.

[Linus Sebastian]

It is such a drug, dude.

[Luke Lafreniere]

And it's. I just feel so weird every time I do it and I don't contact anything, and I'm like, oh, where's the cable? Then I have to remember that I'm wearing Bluetooth headphones. Oh, this is so strange.

[Linus Sebastian]

That's hilarious. Yeah. Oh, lordy. Ew. People are talking about pouring the milk first and then putting cereal in.

[Luke Lafreniere]

It's so incorrect. It bothers me.

[Dan]

How do you ban people on floodplain chat?

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah, we should.

[Linus Sebastian]

Oh, that's.

[Luke Lafreniere]

That's a good.

[Linus Sebastian]

That is literally a wrong opinion.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Have you heard about this? True nasty smart test.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yvonne does it. Oh, she's a milk first, then cereal person. So here's her justification. Hold on. She doesn't like soggy cereal, and she.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Doesn'T like a rapid top upper.

[Linus Sebastian]

So she'll top it up. Yeah.

[Dan]

However, I think that's acceptable.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I. That is like one of the few.

[Dan]

Times if you're pouring milk into a bowl and you bring the cereal with you.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah.

[Linus Sebastian]

She'll have the cereal at hand on the table. That's.

[Luke Lafreniere]

That's allowed. Yeah. So she gets a pass.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah. Yep. Yep. I still don't like it. I still don't like it.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I don't like it either, but she gets a pass.

[Linus Sebastian]

But in the same way, just like, I don't like it when the toilet paper roll goes. Goes under instead of over. I understand why. And cat owners will understand why. That's right. They go like this. And it doesn't unravel. Yeah. There can be good reasons to do bad things.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Speaking of anything about that, I don't. We have no notes on this. I don't think It's a topic, but Truenas is ditching smart tests. Do you have thoughts?

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah. Oh, wait. I haven't talked about Expedition 33 yet.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Okay. Yeah, we'll come back.

[Linus Sebastian]

I like it. And I especially like playing it on the win 5. That thing is a monster. It's Strix. Halo the Hoof.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Okay.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah. This is like an over 2,000 US dollar handheld.

[Luke Lafreniere]

What a sick name.

[Linus Sebastian]

With a. With a frickin like umbilical cord on it. Like it's. It's the least sensible, like most out of touch device that I've probably used since the Vision Pro, which conveniently also had the same tether problem. Not conveniently.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Inconveniently inconveniently enough that I don't think they're making anymore.

[Linus Sebastian]

Apparently they're cutting production back, which to me is a big surprise because I wouldn't have thought they were making them at all at this point. I would have thought they would have plenty of inventory from their first.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I think there are some professional use cases that are like, pretty stoked on it.

[Linus Sebastian]

Cool. Good.

[Luke Lafreniere]

But not very many.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah, that. That's good. Have you. Have you played Expedition 33?

[Luke Lafreniere]

No.

[Linus Sebastian]

Is your computer back up and running?

[Luke Lafreniere]

It was. And it is no longer nice because now we're solid. My dad was putting baseboards in when I left the house today, and they're being painted over the weekend and then things will be getting put back in place next week.

[Linus Sebastian]

Okay, cool. Anyway, not that you need me to endorse it, given that it practically swept the game awards, but I am enjoying the crap out of it. And I am. I'm doing something kind of different and fun with it. I am playing it in French, which. Huh. I.

[Luke Lafreniere]

That's cool.

[Linus Sebastian]

Am way. I. I need sub. I need subtitles.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Sure. But that's cool.

[Linus Sebastian]

But what I'm trying to do is I'm trying to understand the dialogue.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Oh, that's pretty sick.

[Linus Sebastian]

And then I'm. And I'm checking. And what's funny is the reason that I started doing it was completely not for that. It was not to practice my French comprehension. It was because I like playing JRP or RPGs. Sorry. I like playing RPGs.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Sorry.

[Linus Sebastian]

I call it a JRPG. It's not developed by. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I like playing RPGs. Not with English dialogue.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Isn't it Japanese style? Not Japanese developer?

[Linus Sebastian]

It is, but I don't know. There's a lot of Western influence in this one too. I wouldn't.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Okay.

[Linus Sebastian]

There's a lot of Japanese Influence. But yeah. No, I just. Yeah. I. What it definitely is, is an rpg.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Sure. Yeah.

[Linus Sebastian]

So let's go with that.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Got it.

[Linus Sebastian]

And so I don't like English dialogue because I come from the RPG era where everything was text and there was no voice acting. And when they added voice acting, that actually really, like, slowed down my.

[Luke Lafreniere]

That's such a light as problem.

[Linus Sebastian]

My ability to play the game. And I find it a lot less distress if they're going to. If I'm going to skip through something.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Oh, that totally makes sense.

[Linus Sebastian]

I actually find it way less distracting if the dialogue is in. So I'll usually set it to Japanese because usually Japanese is an option. So if I want to. So I played Final Fantasy Tactics like this. I get to enjoy the original Japanese intonation. Yeah. With my English comprehension. And I can skip it in the middle of a sentence and it's not really gonna affect you, and I'll never know the difference. So that was what I actually was setting out to do. I went to switch it to Japanese because I didn't know or care which other options there were, because I was like, that's what I always do. I always just switch it to Japanese. And then the first option was actually French. And I was like, oh, yeah, that makes sense. Why don't I try that and I'll see if it, like, bothers me because I have a little bit of comprehension of it. I'll see if it works the same way. And I find French, no offense to Japanese. No offense whatsoever. I find French to be a very beautiful language to just hear more so than Japanese. Sorry, sorry. My personal opinion. You can ban me for it. And I switched it over and I understood more than I thought I would. And I was like, okay, well, this is a fun little exercise. Why don't I. Why don't I try to, like, pick up my French comprehension a little bit? It's really tough with, like, thickly accented characters.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Oh, yeah.

[Linus Sebastian]

And stuff I can imagine. But with all of the playable characters so far, there's a lot of, like, vocab that I'm missing. But it's. Yeah, it's been good. It's been fun.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I. I think I've told you about this before, but the first time we went to Germany for, like, the Sennheiser thing, I think that was the first time I went to Germany for work. It was really interesting because I had taken a little bit of German in high school. I was definitely not fluent, but I knew some stuff, and I could have, like, extremely basic conversations. And then it had been many years, so I had lost most of that. And there was. There's no. I don't know anyone around here that I could converse with. So it was just loss for years.

[Linus Sebastian]

You could try to German to me and I.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Sure, yeah, I can give you one of those. I can't anymore which is part of the story. But the first time we went it was. Was very interesting because I could, I could pick up on a lot. I could kind of understand the point of a conversation, even though I might not necessarily understand all the details. And I could maybe order things at certain like restaurants and stuff like that. Ask for the receipt, do basic transactional stuff.

[Linus Sebastian]

One worst please.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah, your best stuff like that. Yeah, I could understand numbers, things like that. And then big gap in time. I went there again. I was going to say this year, but I guess last year, but. But like not that long ago last year and I had lost a bunch of it again.

[Linus Sebastian]

Makes sense.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Makes sense. But there was still definitely things like he said V. Gates there, there. There are still definitely things where I can like pick up the general idea of what's happening and it's, it's very like mentally stimulating.

[Linus Sebastian]

German probably has a word for that. Like the, the idea. Schlagen Vincer du Spoels.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah. Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised.

[Linus Sebastian]

Okay. Apparently I will not be banned for enjoying French as long as I don't watch anime in French.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Okay, Seems fair enough.

[Linus Sebastian]

That, that does seem.

[Luke Lafreniere]

That does just like the Avon situation. Yeah, I think that gets a pass. That seems fair enough.

[Linus Sebastian]

That makes sense. Okay, what did you want to talk about next?

[Luke Lafreniere]

The smart test. True Nas, they're ditching smart tests.

[Linus Sebastian]

Oh yeah. I don't like it. And this is. They say they're not reliable yet another reason that I backed Hexos is that I just. So Truenas's position is that you can just use a third party tool for it. And that's cool. But that's one of the reasons that Truenas, which is great and I'm so glad that it underpins Hexos investment disclosure. But that's one of the reasons that for general consumers it's. And even prosumers, it's just not something that I can recommend with a straight face because unless you're. You do this for fun or you know, you already have to do it at work anyway. So you know how it all works. It's just not practical to administer for the average enthusiast even. And if you are one of the people out there who considers yourself an average enthusiast and you totally administer Truenas and you love it, then congratulations, you're not an average enthusiast and that's fine. You're. You're like really into it and that's. That's super cool and that's really great and here's a gold star for you. But most of even the LTT community is not going to want to dig through some of the arcane crap that Truenas forces you to jump through sometimes to do very, very seemingly simple things.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Which, you know, again, like you said, you might do it for fun. That might be part of the entertainment.

[Linus Sebastian]

Absolutely.

[Luke Lafreniere]

It might also not be. Okay, I think we're done Topic, Stan. Yippee doopy.

[Linus Sebastian]

Nice.

[Dan]

Nice.

[Linus Sebastian]

What were people liking today? Were they picking up the new. The new shirt or like.

[Dan]

Let's have a look. Bit set.

[Linus Sebastian]

Crash out.

[Dan]

T shirt and bit set. Oh, big case.

[Linus Sebastian]

Oh, nice. Nice quality.

[Dan]

All right, got some messages here for you guys.

[Linus Sebastian]

Nice greeting.

[Dan]

Wan dll from the uk. Question for Linus about his hands on with the Steam frame. How well did the frame accommodate a large nose? Speaking of someone with a big old.

[Linus Sebastian]

Shit schnauz myself, pretty good, actually. I definitely need to spend some more time with it. I need to play longer sessions where I'm moving my head around. Like, I wanna. I wanna.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah, you had like, no time.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah. And I. Look, I'm not. I don't want to be a conspiracy theorist or whatever, but I think Valve did not want me to make as deep a video as they know that I will and that I did.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Because, I mean. Yeah, that wouldn't even necessarily be that unreasonable.

[Linus Sebastian]

No, but also. Then don't tell us everything. This was completely within your control to, like. They didn't have to have a transparent version of it that we could like, see into. Like, you know, like, if you want to control the scope of the coverage, there's a lot of other ways to do. Do it.

[Luke Lafreniere]

God be so sick if they sold that one.

[Linus Sebastian]

Other than forcing me to. Other than forcing me to have like, not enough time to do a good job anyway. I. Not the point. The point is that before I made a definitive statement on that, I would really want to play for longer sessions, especially in games where I'm moving around quite a lot because sometimes it's not obvious immediately, but little mini movements and jiggles can kind of. They can wear away, especially if they like really, you know, hit on the. The hard parts right here. Or. Or here's an alternate answer. My opinion is that it's. Which is not it's not. Well, okay. It could be more valid than anyone else's because I've actually tried it, but I was trying to. I was trying to demonstrate a point. If you don't know, then you should just say you don't know. You shouldn't make definitive statements.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah.

[Linus Sebastian]

Wait.

[Dan]

I think I figured out a way to ban Linus.

[Linus Sebastian]

From where?

[Luke Lafreniere]

Nice.

[Linus Sebastian]

See, I was imagining that he had some kind of like low color depth filter and I was going to be banned or something.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Oh, I thought he was going to replace your side with a frame with you not sitting there.

[Linus Sebastian]

Oh, that'd be pretty good too.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Which I still thought was happening when he slid in the.

[Dan]

No, I don't have any plates. I moved the camera today.

[Linus Sebastian]

A mirror.

[Dan]

I want new laptops too.

[Linus Sebastian]

A mirror of Luke's side would actually be pretty funny too.

[Dan]

Can I even do that?

[Linus Sebastian]

I bet. I bet you could figure that out. That'd be kind of. I think you could be kind of hard to watch though. Uncomfortable.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I know how I could use that in obs.

[Dan]

You throwing shade on vmix?

[Luke Lafreniere]

No.

[Dan]

I'm gonna have to ban you now.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I just have never used vmix. I don't know anything about it.

[Dan]

Next up, gearing up for the first plane trip. 13 hours with our 3 month old because of a family emergency.

[Linus Sebastian]

Oh, double ooh.

[Dan]

Oh, I wonder if you had some memorable difficult things with the used to be newborn.

[Linus Sebastian]

Oh, man. Yeah, we did. We did a trip to Asia to see Vaughn's family when my second was, I think one or like one and change. And I wouldn't wish traveling with an infant or even a toddler, honestly, on anyone not on long haul flights. Like, if you're just doing a little one and you can just like zonk them out on the iPad for a couple of hours, that's probably fine. But as soon as you're getting over like four hours on the plane, they get antsy, they get cranky, they don't. They don't know how to sleep. They don't let you sleep. Like, it's just a recipe for misery, man. I. I'm. I'm sorry for whatever you're going through in your family emergency. And I'm double sorry now that you are having to take a three month old traveling with you. And I think that like, I had someone like profusely apologizing to me for their kid crying on a flight recently because they were like right in front of me. I was like, bro, Why do you think I brought these? You're good. I get it.

[Luke Lafreniere]

It's part of the experience. You just have to. You don't want to be here either.

[Linus Sebastian]

I know you don't want to be here 10 times as much as I don't want you here. So like, you know, if I don't want to deal with that.

[Luke Lafreniere]

It used to bother me a bunch and then eventually I just accepted we're all cattle in a tube dealing with their own problems. And you just gotta, you gotta just own the confines of your little seat area that you have. Make it the best experience you can, given all the variables around you and get through to the other end. It's really not that deep.

[Dan]

Do they just like not want to pay the check bag fee or what.

[Linus Sebastian]

You know?

[Luke Lafreniere]

All right, next little crate. Yeah.

[Dan]

What about the cats or the parrots or whatever? All right, let's see. Is it. Is it is a natural monopoly in a high barrier of entry industry, like a bad thing? In the case of asml, it seems more of a reward for technological innovation, which incentivizes innovation.

[Linus Sebastian]

So when Luke and I say monopoly bad, competition good, our perspective is as consumer aligned representatives from the media, does that kind of make sense? And in general, I think that we have benefited more in our lives from competition than from successful companies monopolizing their industries. I would also say that even if that disproportionate, or maybe even not even disproportionate, even if that high reward could incentivize others to try to compete during that time of one ring ruling them all and others attempting, but failing to compete is a bad time for consumers that just didn't need to exist if there was always competition the whole way through. So yes, I can see your argument that it is good to have a really big reward for really big investment and ingenuity and perseverance. But from a consumer standpoint, that is not the ideal situation. We would rather have more than one competitor in any given space.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah.

[Linus Sebastian]

That'S it.

[Luke Lafreniere]

What was that? What was the core question?

[Linus Sebastian]

Can you not see the merit in a, in a, in a monopoly like asml? Because the huge reward for winning the entire market should incentivize others to chase that huge reward.

[Luke Lafreniere]

That's okay, I think you already answered it. I wasn't fully paying attention. But I mean, that's literally an argument for competition. But anyways.

[Dan]

Had a great white shark show up on a dive two weeks ago. Video is amazing. Are you all keeping up with your diving? And what animals or locations are still on the bucket list?

[Linus Sebastian]

I have not used it like practically at all. I think the last time I went was diving with Dennis on Mexico work.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Whoa.

[Linus Sebastian]

That was.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I was going to say, I'm pretty sure I'm more upset up to date than you. I might be further certed than you at this point.

[Linus Sebastian]

I think I'm only open water. Okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I honestly don't know if I really care about that because even with open water, you can do a wreck dive as long as your dive master is certed to guide open water divers on a wreck dive, you can do a deep dive even if the. As long as they're sorted to take you on it. Like, I don't.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I could be wrong about this. Do not take the. This is a quote. I think there are still slightly different limitations, I guess.

[Dan]

Oh.

[Linus Sebastian]

And actually, now that I think about it, when we did that, we were taking our advanced open water, so maybe that was the context of it. We, Yvonne and I, like, passed our advanced open water, but we were like, you didn't teach us anything. We just went on a bunch. We did it in Mexico, so we did our open water here in Vancouver, and then we did our advanced open water in Mexico and they just like took us on a bunch of advanced dives. We were like, we're supposed to know all this, like, underwater navigation stuff. Like, you didn't show us any of this. We just followed you around. And they were like, don't worry about that. I'm like, no, I am worried about that. I don't want a certificate. A certificate that I didn't earn.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I was concerned about this, but did my advanced open water in Greece and it was actually awesome. The dude was like, pretty hardcore about, like, you're gonna do this, right? When we were doing the knot tying stuff, he had me do it blind.

[Linus Sebastian]

That's cool.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Because he was like, you might get.

[Linus Sebastian]

You might not have a mask on.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah, there might be a problem. You might still have to tie that knot. So you need to be able to do it with your eyes closed.

[Linus Sebastian]

You might be on a night dive. You might be really deep.

[Luke Lafreniere]

So there might be a variety of variables you need to be able to do with your eyes closed. And he also made me do underwater nav with no references other than kicks.

[Linus Sebastian]

Oh, interesting.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I had to track.

[Linus Sebastian]

So there was one, like, pair of Yeezys.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Basically, I had to be able to get back. We'd like swim up to a certain point, and then I had to be able to go in like a square in basically any direction and end up back where I started. And I wasn't allowed to have like a little navigation computer or whatever. I had to do it all just with kicks. And it was not. He purposely brought us to unclear water.

[Linus Sebastian]

Right. And was there a currency?

[Luke Lafreniere]

I think we did that at one point.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah.

[Luke Lafreniere]

And he taught. I don't remember the, the deal behind it, but he taught me how to like try to do that a little bit better. And he was like, you know, it's not going to be perfect but if you're trying to get back to a boat, you can kind of use this information to help you get back to a boat. But yeah, he was awesome actually.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah. Hi all.

[Dan]

You've taught a lot of people, some have started their own businesses with confidence. What do you try to do as a mentor and boss to help people grow? What was your favorite teachable moment?

[Linus Sebastian]

Oh man, this is a heavy question. I mean I don't.

[Luke Lafreniere]

You might not be able to say.

[Linus Sebastian]

I don't think that I'm, I'm a business mentor necessarily. I'm, I'm just, I'm fumbling my way through this school of hard knocks. I didn't go to business school. I, I don't know man. And a lot of the stuff that we do is not best practice.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I mean that's going to be true for every business.

[Linus Sebastian]

Sure, sure.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I laugh but that is true for every business.

[Linus Sebastian]

I just, I just mean we do not like optimize a lot of the time.

[Luke Lafreniere]

We need to do a bit more optimizing.

[Linus Sebastian]

We do, we need, we do need to do a bit more optimizing.

[Luke Lafreniere]

We do need to be doing some, some optimism.

[Linus Sebastian]

I mean look I, I wrote how does LMG spend money this week and it definitely for you like did you.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Learn things in that process?

[Linus Sebastian]

100% IT hardcore flagged for me. Things that are going to need to be optimized actually here, let me see. There was Chewy put together some. Why can I never find people when I'm looking for them? There it is. Yeah. Chewy put together some stuff like basically we've made a lot of decisions as we've been rapidly growing that like made sense in isolation.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah.

[Linus Sebastian]

But now that we're not no longer do rapidly growing do not necessarily make sense anymore. We've accumulated a lot of process debt. We've accumulated a lot of sort of band aid solutions that again made sense at the time but probably don't make sense now. Lots of those we something that I don't really talk about in detail in the. How does LMG spend money? Because it's Meant to be sort of a snapshot of a particular moment in time rather than a look at trends is that as we've expanded our payroll and we'll talk about this part in more detail in the, in the video, but as we've, as we've looked at improving our compensation overall, we have scaled comp in a way that is not in line with our revenue scaling. And that's been going on for a fairly extended period of time now, like on the order of years. View counts have been getting better. You know, we've been, we're kind of, we're back to a more sustainable sort of overall viewership. But with that said, the YouTube game is getting more cutthroat. You can upload. It used to be that if you uploaded a banger video, you might get 2 million views on it. And if you uploaded a total downer video, you might get 1 million views. Now your banger video might hit 3 million, 4 million, but your downer video might get 400,000. So you don't have that same. Right. Predictable.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah.

[Linus Sebastian]

A little bit more floor. It's down in the basement now. And that's, that's harder to, that's harder to sell to sponsors. That's harder to capitalize on for yourself. Like when we're promoting a big deal on lttstore.com or something like that, and the video that we have that goes up promoting it. Like we can see the difference in performance when it's a half a million view video versus if it's like a 2, 3 million view bang. Right. This was a fun one. Capital expenditures, they get the most attention. Right. Like when we buy a fire truck or we buy a big LED wall or we buy like a huge sound.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Chamber or thermal chamber.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah. Or a three stage chiller from Fugger or whatever. Capital expenditures are under 1% of our spend.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Under 1. So, you know, that's a weird bucket to define though. I guess almost everything's going to be a weird bucket.

[Linus Sebastian]

Well, yeah, it's how you define it. So we define a lot of what some companies might call capex would be we have under sort of an umbrella that we call overhead.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Okay.

[Linus Sebastian]

And so for us, we defined our capital expenditures as sort of outlier purchases, particularly for content or for product testing. So, you know, looking at it like those are all videos that performed well or series of videos that will. Will perform well over time. Right. And it's just, it's a lot of little things that you only really notice when you write it down and when you like Graph it and start to really look at it and go like, okay, now hold on a second. Like, does this make sense for how much it contributes to the business? Does this make sense for how much it contributes to the business? Up or down in. In any case. So it's the kind of thing that when you're just. Yeah. When you're, when you're building the plane, as you're flying it, you don't really look at it that closely. But we've had a couple years now of lower production targets. Like, I don't know if people have, like, noticed this, but they have.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I think they just stopped commenting on it because it was so long.

[Linus Sebastian]

We used to have like 100ish people. We are now up to like 120 people. And we used to do six LTTs a week, plus WAN show, plus two tech quickies, plus three tech links, plus two game links, plus two to four short circuits, plus, shoot, there's one I'm missing. I don't think Channel Super. Oh, yeah. No, Channel Super Fun did overlap with that schedule for a while. Plus a Channel Super Fun. Shoot. I'm sure I'm missing something. What am I missing? Oh, yeah. Plus Mac address whenever that got uploaded. And our head count has not appreciably changed in this time that we've been doing anywhere from. Realistically about 3 1/2 ltts a week is what we've been averaging. We completely hiatus Tech quickie. Completely hiatus. Game link. Completely hiatus. Mac address. Dare to say tech wiki. I think I already said tech wiki.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Sure. And people feel very, like, overworked. And I don't think that they're necessarily just like, lying about that. So that then leans back to what we were kind of previously talking about.

[Linus Sebastian]

Of like, what are we doing?

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah, Process overhead. Where's. Where's the loss?

[Linus Sebastian]

What are we spending our time on?

[Luke Lafreniere]

This engine has a lot of energy waste in potentially variety of areas.

[Linus Sebastian]

So I think that's. I think that's something that we're going to be reflecting on heavily over the next little while. Yeah. Anyway, you guys can expect that video probably a little bit after ces. I think Elijah, I saw him turning through the guidance for it. That's kind of. That's kind of getting to be a bit of a, like, superpower of his. Like, he did the guidance for the, the RAM crisis video that we uploaded earlier this week and I thought he'd just him and who was who.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Guidance makes sense in my brain.

[Linus Sebastian]

Hold on, I'm trying to remember. I think it might have been Kendrick. I'm gonna double check though, because I don't want to give credit to the wrong people. So this video, really cool video. Special thanks to the ECC Squad. Seriously though, shout out the ECC Squad. You guys rock. Hold on. Here's the regular credits. Where's my editor? Yeah, Kendrick. Kendrick was the editor. So yeah, between him and Andrew and Kendrick, I thought they just did a really good job of maintaining really cohesive visuals throughout it that made it really engaging. I thought that, yeah, just did an outstanding job. I technically, I don't know this because I am actually, you know, not the one who determines once and for all if a video is good. You guys get to decide that. I haven't actually looked at the retention for it, but to me it felt like a very pleasant short watch relative to its runtime and that's usually a pretty solid indicator. I've been doing this for a while and I usually have a decent sense, but I don't always get it right though, right? Yeah. Not even. Not. Not at all. Could not claim that. I could try to claim that, but then I'd be a big liar. Yeah, retention is really strong. It's like well above average.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Nice.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yep. Yeah. So good job, guys.

[Dan]

Hey, LLD got the wife interested in the Tech House series. What ideas do you have for spouse approved hidden tech? Going to be following and upgrading along the way. Thanks for the amazing content.

[Linus Sebastian]

I mean a big one is I think we're going to be getting a lot better at wiring and cable management because I'm a big fan of eliminating batteries and wireless technology from my life and I'd like to find ways to do things as wired as possible while maintaining really strong spouse approval factor.

[Luke Lafreniere]

So this is a bit of a derail. But part of the my place will be kind of fresh plan is that I want to have some self hosted Iot things going on and some other stuff happening for once. And one of the problems that I've ran into that, you know, I'm probably going to try to solve it before the Tech house, I guess. But where our computers are going to be now, there's a cat 5e through the wall, that cable in the wall. I still haven't done the testing because again, I've been focused on other grander stuff. But it could be. Yeah, that too. It could be the. The short cable going from router to patch instead of the cable through the wall. But I think it's a cable through the wall. That cable might be messed up the second a significant Load happens. My computer, like it's blinking Ethernet cable and I lose all networking.

[Linus Sebastian]

Hopefully it's just the termination.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Hopefully. Hopefully. But I don't know. So I might have to figure out how to. Gonna learn to fish that cable.

[Linus Sebastian]

Nice solid.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Everything with this place just turns into like, oh, here's a new project that I've never had to try to figure out how to do before.

[Linus Sebastian]

And you're finally gonna finish it and then you're gonna go, you know what, time to move. Maybe it's time to.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah, I've been. Been rather aware of that.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah, no comment. That's. That's your thing to figure out in terms of your timing.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah.

[Linus Sebastian]

But yeah, cool. Good luck with that.

[Luke Lafreniere]

You actually both ends, you can just pull a new. Yeah, I know. My problem is how it fishes through.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah. It depends on if it's like stapled to the studs and stuff too.

[Luke Lafreniere]

So I don't know that. And it's. It's very far from reasonable angles and stuff. And seeing how this place was put together, it'll either be just draped there and easy to do because no one cared to do it properly, or it'll be like, oh, I don't know, 17 staples in one spot for no apparent reason.

[Linus Sebastian]

Cool.

[Luke Lafreniere]

So we'll see.

[Linus Sebastian]

Oh, here's a quick one. The Pebble Round 2. 2 was apparently just announced.

[Luke Lafreniere]

That looks good.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah, it looks actually pretty sick.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Wow.

[Linus Sebastian]

I get it though. That's very funny.

[Luke Lafreniere]

All right. All right. All right. All right, all right. That's pretty good.

[Linus Sebastian]

All right, that's all.

[Dan]

As a former kyoksia employee, I was amazed to see the fab tour you got. Surprising. They let you see more than I could working there. What's your take on how the audience liked it and what's next?

[Linus Sebastian]

Hopefully more is next. I love doing that kind of thing. And yeah, I was very impressed and pleased with the amount of access that we were able to get. It was a battle to get as much access as we did, I can tell you that. We had a meeting with as many as. I think it was like 20 people in the room and another 20 on the call sort of talking through the plan for the next day after our first day of shooting. And like, to be, to be clear, I don't mean this in like a disrespectful way or like an antagonistic way. These sorts of things are always kind of a battle.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah.

[Linus Sebastian]

Because these are closely guarded corporate secrets that have never been talked about or seen before. Like, like to your. Your point, you could work there and not see things that we saw. And so I understand why they're a little cagey about us walking around in there with like, people aren't allowed to bring their phone in and because they might snap a picture here and there and we're walking around with a full kit. Right. And it was incredible. And I'd love to do more of it. If there's other companies that, you know, want to. Want to chop through all the red tape that's involved in getting us that kind of access so that we can bring people along for the ride and help them really appreciate what it is that you guys are doing over there, then we're. We're super down. I love it. Oh, I haven't seen it yet, but apparently Veritasium did a really cool video this week on ASML's. Oh, incredible.

[Luke Lafreniere]

This, I've not seen it.

[Linus Sebastian]

So good.

[Luke Lafreniere]

That's cool. What is he. Does he like go there?

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Oh, that's exciting.

[Dan]

And they go into some really technical details and it's just awesome. He did a phenomenal job. Last one I've got for you today. Hey, Luke, heard that getting tips from Wendell on building an LLM server. Would there be a chance to follow along with your home lab journey?

[Luke Lafreniere]

I don't know. Maybe. I'm starting to question its feasibility based on GPU pricing.

[Dan]

Got a couple you can borrow if you want.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah, we'll see. I definitely. I. So I've got a variety of goals, but yeah, we'll. We'll see how this stuff gets sorted out over time. There's like, I've been preaching local LLM for a long time, so I really want to actually do it because I don't want to be like telling people that they should look into it and not look into it myself. That seems lame.

[Linus Sebastian]

I don't really know where you're coming, where you're getting at with this. You have a variety of what and that has to do with a local AI server.

[Luke Lafreniere]

What are you bringing?

[Linus Sebastian]

Gulls?

[Luke Lafreniere]

Goals, goals, goals.

[Linus Sebastian]

I know, I'm just playing. You said goals. Okay. He's only got one sinus.

[Dan]

Leave him alone.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah, really sorry. But yeah, I've been having a bunch of. Of fun watching.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Jeff Geerling and Wendell and other people's stuff. I've wanted to do home laby things for a long time, so this is going to be my dive into that. Both on the networking and the server side of things I want to do in a lot of cases self developed, in some cases just self hosted Iot things. I want to do some self hosted services. I want to have my own home video distribution instead of just borrowing others. I There's a lot of different goals.

[Linus Sebastian]

Easy. You'd be crazy not to buy it.

[Luke Lafreniere]

God man.

[Linus Sebastian]

Oh no.

[Luke Lafreniere]

But I mean my family does like this holiday. Valheim server we've this is the second year in a row that we've done it but it's like the, the thing, the solution that we've had is like kind of instable and lags a lot lot and there's issues with it. So like if I could just host that myself. Yeah, that would be sweet. Like there's just a lot of things where I'm like this is honestly very overdue. So I'm trying to start figuring it out. But going from zero to the point that I want to be at is like a lot. So I'm trying to research and learn things and figure out how I want to step into this realm.

[Linus Sebastian]

Old Tom asks, how often do you think of the Roman Empire these days? For reasons that I don't really feel like I need to get into, kind of a lot. We'll see you again next week. Same bad time, same bad channel.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Bye.

[Linus Sebastian]

Sam.

[Luke Lafreniere]

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