Upgrade Your PC Now For Minecraft - WAN Show July 31, 2026

Summary

The WAN Show Summary – July 31, 2026

Podcast: The WAN Show
Host: Linus Tech Tips (Linus Sebastian, Luke Lafreniere, Dan)
Episode: Upgrade Your PC Now For Minecraft
Date: August 1, 2026

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Episode Overview

This week's WAN Show dives into the latest tech news and controversies, with the headline story focusing on Minecraft’s first major system requirements bump in 17 years. Linus, Luke, and Dan discuss the implications of these new requirements, trends in PC hardware, GPU launches, legal developments in tech, and various off-topic but lively discussions about cars, chickens, and digital privacy. The team also shares anecdotes and reflects on nostalgia, their workflow, office software woes, and more.

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Key Topics and Discussion Points

1. Minecraft’s System Requirements Jump ([02:13]–[08:57])

• Minecraft Java Edition has increased its minimum and recommended specs for the first time since launch.
  • Target is now 1080p/30fps (minimum) and 1080p/60fps (recommended).
  • Minimum: 8GB RAM (discrete GPU) or 12GB RAM (integrated), Vulkan 1.3 compatible GPU, 4-core CPU.
  • Recommended: 16GB RAM, modern CPU, GPU with 6GB VRAM.
• Luke: “The game is now targeting 1080p at 30fps on the fast preset. And to do that, you will need, and I quote, folks, a 64 bit system. Oh, that is 60 bits plus four.” [02:51]
• Debate on whether the new requirements reflect game improvements or just Windows' RAM demands.
• Discussion on RAM pricing, user market share, and whether this matters for most players.

2. GPU Market: AMD RX 9050 Launches (including a 4GB model) ([16:18]–[23:29])

• AMD RX 9050 launches with both 8GB and mysterious 4GB variants; the latter is OEM-only.
• Lower spec, cut-down GPUs for OEMs continue to be a frustration, confusing consumers who expect full performance.
  • “A whole new generation of people is gonna buy a pre configured system thinking that they're getting a 9050... but they're gonna get this cut down memory bus and they're gonna get this cut down memory quantity.” – Luke [20:20]
• Second-hand vs. new entry GPUs trade-offs discussed (warranty, risk, price).

3. Broader Hardware/PC Churn & Nostalgic Tangents ([23:31]–[27:46], [39:53]–[40:07])

• Car maintenance analogies to tech upgrades.
• The age/value “depreciation curve” and spending on aging gear.
• Anecdotes: spending more on repairs/mods than the item is worth, from cars to bikes.
• Frequent asides and humorous reminiscing about old professional and personal routines.

4. GOG Galaxy Linux Support Announced ([54:28]–[56:28])

• GOG (Good Old Games) is hiring for Linux support in GOG Galaxy.
• Positive reaction to gaming’s shifting platform support. “It’s changing so fast.” – Luke [55:50]
• Anticipation for Proton compatibility and general cross-launcher support.

5. Movie Talk & Pop Culture ([09:00]–[15:01])

• Off-topic but entertaining: Reactions to the Minecraft movie (and Jason Momoa & Jack Black performances), superhero movie fatigue, and recent favorites (Barbie, Hail Mary).
• Nostalgic reflection on movie-going habits and the impact of streaming.

6. Work/Life, Motorcycles, and Risk ([27:22]–[38:03])

• Deep reflection on risk tolerance: motorcycles, family, finding your own line ("don't be too focused on adding years to your life; add life to your years").
• Tangents on car modding, sporting injuries, and balancing life’s dangers.

7. ADHD, Medication Access, and Voices to Text Frustrations ([40:26]–[44:35], [109:15]–[111:35])

• Luke discusses approaching ADHD as an adult and ease of getting ADHD medication.
• Voice-to-Text software is a source of frustration due to inconsistent handling of punctuation and names.

8. Valve Steam Machine & CAD File Releases ([85:37]–[88:47])

• Valve has released Steam Machine CAD files, allowing custom shells/cases.
• dbrand shifts plans from cases to skins due to Valve’s IP.
• Discussion of what open hardware CAD files mean for the future and user customization culture.

9. Deleting Files is “Illegal” at the U.S. Border ([89:14]–[97:11])

• US DOJ prosecuting a traveler for using a duress passcode that wiped his phone at the border.
• Concerns raised about digital privacy, right to data, and how border crossings represent legal limbo.
• Practical advice and musings about wiping devices before travel.

10. LinkedIn Debuts “AI Slop” Button ([98:22]–[100:02])

• LinkedIn rolls out a reporting tool for “AI slop” (low-quality, AI-generated content).
• Surprised at Microsoft leading the charge for anti-AI spam tools.

11. Mandatory Login Walls: Reddit & Scraping Drama ([184:08]–[186:02])

• Reddit increasingly requires logins, officially to “fight scraping” and bot traffic – but likely to build accounts.
• Consensus: this won’t stop AI scrapers, but will annoy users.

12. Microsoft: TPM & KMS Software Crackdown ([111:35]–[114:02])

• Microsoft is cracking down on software piracy using TPM attestation.
• MassGrave’s KMS activation methods now deprecated; pirates already have a workaround.
• “For years I've thought that they weren't actually trying to win it.” – Luke [113:10]

13. Personal Tech, Life Updates, and Light-Hearted Stories

• Linus’ new chickens: Adopted after an “incubator school project gone too far.” Chicken coop build ([168:31]–[170:48]), home automation tangents for animal care.
• Old-school WAN Show moments, behind-the-scenes about old LTT videos and hosts’ evolving roles ([237:10]–[246:38]).
• Luke’s philosophy on tech upgrades: deploy the media company to find the best TV for his own house ([229:44]–[229:54]).
• Podcast/community growth: reflections on moving the WAN Show to its own channel and its surprising success ([201:00]–[202:29]).

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “I have found computers on the side of the road that could run this.” – Linus [04:23]
• “Shipping in Canada is a nightmare.” – Linus [08:57]
• “Performance and visual quality are no longer guaranteed on hardware below the new minimum.” – Luke (quoting Minecraft) [07:20]
• “If you want to talk about outlawing Home Depot, I'm open to the conversation. The amount of human life that has been lost to wandering the aisles of Home Depot…” – Luke [136:38]
• “Deleting files is illegal now? What? How is it not within my rights to delete the data on a device that I own at any time?” – Luke [90:44]
• “Don't be too focused on trying to add years to your life. Figure out how to add life to your years.” – Luke referencing a chat message [31:25]
• “Nuance on my WAN show? Get out of here!” – Linus [31:04]
• “I have potentially hundreds of half siblings. So if you've ever, like, seen someone on the street and gone like, wow, they look an awful lot like Linus, maybe.” – Luke [50:30]
• “If Google can be one of the most valuable companies in the world and… get by with Hangouts, maybe we can live with whatever ecosystem we decide on.” – Luke [252:34]

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• [02:13] – Minecraft requirements controversy main topic
• [16:18] – AMD RX 9050 and 4GB GPU discussion
• [23:31] – Car/tech maintenance analogies
• [39:53] – Entry-level hardware spending philosophy
• [54:28] – GOG Galaxy for Linux news
• [85:37] – Valve’s Steam Machine open CAD files
• [89:14] – DOJ warns: Deleting files at border = “illegal”
• [98:22] – LinkedIn’s “AI slop” button
• [109:15] – Voice-to-text gripes
• [111:35] – Microsoft’s KMS crackdown
• [168:31] – The chicken coop story
• [184:08] – Reddit’s login requirements & scraping debate
• [229:44] – Personal TV upgrade philosophy
• [237:10] – Old video nostalgia section
• [201:00] – Reflection on WAN Show channel move & audience growth

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WAN Show Original Style: Banter, Tangents, and Community

This episode delivers classic WAN Show:

• Playful tech banter about the practical impacts of hardware changes.
• Frequent tangents—from data privacy and legal overreach to weird family cars, “cursed” RAM upgrade capacities, office software gridlocks, and chickens.
• Audience engagement and chat interaction, with in-jokes, self-deprecating humor, and calls for nuance.
• Skepticism of tech industry PR, especially on “solving” piracy, DRM, and “AI slop.”
• Nostalgic and reflective, often poking fun at their own histories.

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Conclusion

Episode in a nutshell:

• Headline: Minecraft finally demands serious hardware, prompting lively analysis and memes.
• Hardware/Software: GPU launches, Steam Machine openness, Microsoft tightening controls.
• Culture: Personal “life line” risk tolerance, home automation, nostalgia, and classic WAN Show observational humor.
• Privacy: Government overreach at borders, growing tension between convenience and control.
• Community: WAN Show’s surprising continued growth, frequent call-outs to viewers and chat.
• Bonus: If you love offbeat stories and the reality of running a modern tech media company, this episode delivers.

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If you missed the show: You’ll learn what Minecraft’s new spec jump means (not much for most, great for some), why OEM GPUs can be scams, the unique risks and joys of adult tech hobbies, and that, even after all these years, the WAN Show remains as tangential, enthusiastic, and community-centric as ever.

Transcript

[Linus Sebastian]

This episode is brought to you by Facebook.

[Luke Lafreniere]

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[Dan]

of funny, and an avid cyclist. The next thing you know, you're in a cycling crew.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Well, a community cycling group. The thing about Facebook, you might find more than what you're looking for, from a browse to a bike ride this summer.

[Dan]

Find more on Facebook.

[Luke Lafreniere]

What's up, everybody? It's been a chill week. Welcome to the WAN show. I built a chicken coop.

[Linus Sebastian]

I did not have a chill week.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Nice. You know what else happened this week? All kinds of stuff. California wants to ban 3D printers that can't detect when a gun is being printed. And oh, oh, terrible news. Of terrible news. Minecraft is getting a significant system requirements upgrade, which is to say that you are downgrading how easy the game is to run, but you'll have to upgrade your PC in order to play Minecraft. What else we got this week?

[Linus Sebastian]

Gog Good Old Games confirms that GOG Galaxy for Linux is in the works. That's exciting.

[Luke Lafreniere]

That's solid.

[Linus Sebastian]

Another win. And also, apparently the US Department of Justice has decided that deleting files is illegal now.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah. The show is brought to you today by opmanager, Nexus, Whisper, Flow Motion Gray, and Ahrefs, alongside our RAP partner, dbrand, our laptop partner, Razer, and and our chair partner, also Razor. Why don't we jump right into our headline topic, which is, of course, the big controversy this week. Minecraft system requirements have been bumped for the first time in 17 years. That's right, folks.

[Linus Sebastian]

The big controversy this week, the official.

[Luke Lafreniere]

The official meme. But can it run Minecraft? The classic. The original. Okay, not the original. Can it run Crysis? Was the original. But can it run Minecraft? Was the meme version.

[Linus Sebastian]

I don't think I ever heard that.

[Luke Lafreniere]

But can it run Minecraft?

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah.

[Luke Lafreniere]

What are you talking about? That's such a thing. I'm like playing Minecraft on something, dude. Minecraft. Yes, yes, 100%. Anyway, Minecraft Java Edition, the original PC version of Minecraft for Windows Mac. Oh, and Linux is going from.

[Dan]

Oh.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Oh, good lord. Wow. Oh, wow. These requirements, it's not too much, but it is quite a jump for minimum requirements. The game is now targeting 1080p at 30fps on the fast preset. And to do that, you will need, and I quote, folks, a 64 bit system. Oh, that is 60 bits plus four. That's. That's 70 minus six bits, you're going to need 64 of them. 64 bits, you will need 8 billion bytes of RAM or 64 billion bits of RAM. Okay, that's if you have a discrete GPU.

[Linus Sebastian]

That's a lot of bits of RAM.

[Luke Lafreniere]

If you are running integrated graphics, you will need 12 billion bytes of RAM and I can't quickly do 12 times eight in my head. So we don't even know how much that is. It could be 96, it could be 92, we're not sure. Nobody knows. You will need a four core processor. Good lord. I mean, oh, you might have to have a PC from 2006, you know it. You also need a Vulkan 1.3 capable GPU with at least 2 billion bytes of VRAM. Now, I'm obviously memeing on this a little bit because you could, you could probably literally. I have found computers on the side

[Linus Sebastian]

of the road that could run this,

[Luke Lafreniere]

that could run Minecraft genuinely. But this is a pretty significant uplift in the recommended minimum requirements. It used to only require 2 gigs of RAM.

[Linus Sebastian]

This could be really good actually, because if they were being held back by those old requirements, like, my God, this is actually a very substantial jump.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I'm going to be honest with you, I don't.

[Linus Sebastian]

You don't think they were using it as a guideline?

[Luke Lafreniere]

I don't think they were and I don't think that this is going to make that much of a difference. I suspect the increase in system requirements is more to run your discord in the background. We actually did a video recently comparing. Oh man, there's going to be a bit of a spoiler here. Okay, so go like this. Okay, here's your spoiler avoidance instructions. Go like this and go like this and go like this. La la la la la la la. Okay, do it for about 13 seconds. I'm just going to do this real quick. Okay. In our exploration, Linux used significantly less RAM than Windows in the background. Not as much of a difference in the running foreground applications, but so much less in the background that on Windows you just fundamentally have a certain amount of RAM that you just need before you can run anything. So what I believe is that this update is more reflective of how much RAM Windows needs to suck in the background while you're playing Minecraft. I, I haven't actually seen what the, what the fidelity increases are. Are there any fidelity?

[Linus Sebastian]

I don't know that there is any.

[Luke Lafreniere]

It seems to me that they're just kind of catching up with the times. As for running on recommended. The game is now targeting 1080p at 60fps with the fancy preset for for recommended and hit that target you will need. Okay, this is where things get a little real. 16 gigs of RAM, a stronger modern processor and a more capable graphics card with 6 gigs of VRAM. Note it used to only require 4 gigs of RAM as it's for recommended. Wow.

[Linus Sebastian]

So the people that are now below minimum requirements accounts for 1.42% of users on Steam. So I am grabbing the 4 gig and the less than 4 gig categories and they do seem to be shrinking with 16, 24 and 48 mm growing. Kind of surprised it's not 32.

[Dan]

I have 48 and it's cursed and I hate it. Yeah, I don't like it.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Well, the thing about it though is that especially with RAM prices being what they are, if 32 gigs is not enough and 64 gigs is not affordable,

[Linus Sebastian]

you do what you can.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah, I mean 48 gigs is a pretty, pretty nice place to be actually.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Anyway, it's uncomfortable. The change happened on the 21st of July and this is a quote. Performance and visual quality are no longer guaranteed on hardware below the new minimum. Also, this is fun. I don't, I don't know who was working on the doc here, but there's some, there's some hidden text. There's some fun. Find the hidden text like AI optimization going on in the Wandoc helping to reinforce this point, I guess for any AIs that are reading this document. Anyway, our discussion question here is what do you make of this requirement change given the ongoing RAM policy apocalypse? I mean we're talking DDR3 grade specs here.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah, I think it doesn't really matter. Probably accepting where they are at more than changing much.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I mean what is, what is what. What was the requirement? 16 gigs. 16 gigs DDR3. I'm pretty sure that's actually still pretty affordable. Okay, so I can pick up a couple hyperx furies for. That's kind of more than I would really. Wait, hold on a second. Capacity. How. Oh, okay.

[Dan]

Here we go. Here we go.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Here we go. Most popular.

[Dan]

Sure.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Color. What if I don't care? Oh, are they just all. Are they just all the same price? Oh yeah, they're just. There's all the same price.

[Dan]

So.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah. 40, 45 bucks. That doesn't seem like the best deal. These guys.

[Linus Sebastian]

That doesn't seem great.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah, I think we can, I think we can do better than that. Okay, here's a two by eight 1600 there you go. $14. And yeah, the shipping's expensive. Oh, the shipping. Oh, okay.

[Dan]

That.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah, that's just Canada things.

[Dan]

That.

[Luke Lafreniere]

That's pretty reasonable, actually, for if you're not in Canada.

[Linus Sebastian]

That'll be a lot cheaper. Shipping in Canada is nightmare.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah. So if you're in the US and you're buying from someone in the US you could probably get it for just, like, I don't know, eight bucks shipped or whatever. With that said, shipping rates have been going up, like, so many things. Anything to do with fuel? Pretty much. What else we got here? Our other discussion question is here's a little carpool. Critics slash, they're just movies Throwback. Riley was pleasantly surprised by the Minecraft movie. Who prepared this. Okay. By the Minecraft movie. And he quite likes it. Did you see the movie? What did you think? Did you see the Minecraft movie? Oh, it was. It was pretty okay.

[Linus Sebastian]

Chicken joggy.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah, it was very. It was obviously designed for pretty much every scene to have something, you know, gif worthy, meme worthy, TikTok worthy. But it got like. It kind of. It kind of worked. I didn't. I wasn't. I wasn't expecting to laugh at Jason Momoa's performance, like, when he meant for me to laugh at it, you know, Like, I watched. I watched Aquaman and I laughed, like, Belly laughed, like, frequently during that movie. I don't think it was meant to be funny, but it was just. It was so stupid. Like, they. Did you watch Aquaman?

[Linus Sebastian]

No.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Oh, man. It was just

[Linus Sebastian]

no desire to watch Aquaman. I, like, kind of thought about maybe seeing the Minecraft movie. I had no desire to see Aquaman.

[Luke Lafreniere]

It's worth it. It's worth it because they'll just, like, you know. You know how, like. You know how, like, a superhero will always, like, land, like, in this pose, you know, Aquaman takes that,

[Linus Sebastian]

like, far beyond.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Like, it just. It goes on.

[Linus Sebastian]

We should do forever.

[Luke Lafreniere]

It never ends. It's. It's crazy.

[Linus Sebastian]

We should do a computer man movie.

[Luke Lafreniere]

So I would

[Linus Sebastian]

actually be kind of sick. We used to do, like. Like, Remember that Stormtrooper rap?

[Luke Lafreniere]

I was remembering that today because I actually sent you this. I came across that Andrew Tate had a short rap attempt at a career. It is exactly as bad as you would think.

[Linus Sebastian]

Okay, I'm excited to check that out anyway.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah. Oh, my. You know what? You obviously don't play it.

[Linus Sebastian]

No, no, no.

[Luke Lafreniere]

But you. You should just.

[Dan]

Just do it. Just.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Just watch it anyway. I wasn't expecting to laugh unironically at Jason Momoa. But I actually thought he was pretty good. And Jack Black always brings it I

[Linus Sebastian]

seconds in. It's hilarious.

[Luke Lafreniere]

It's even worse with audio.

[Linus Sebastian]

His smile is just so brutal.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Imagine having negative Riz.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah, I think that might be, like, the worst. Yeah. Someone, Someone, Someone. That's where I. What a dork. Oh, that's awesome.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah.

[Linus Sebastian]

Okay, well, we decided to properly check that out later.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah. My favorite meme I've seen is going from incel to incel. Anywho, what were we talking about? Yeah, Minecraft movie. I actually, I enjoyed it. I enjoyed it quite a lot.

[Linus Sebastian]

Nice.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I had. I had kind of like a concept that I kind of really liked. And I got my. Got. Got it in my head that I thought it would have been really cool if.

[Dan]

If.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Oh, man. I actually forget what it was. Whatever the direction they went with it was. Was fun. Whimsical. I have no idea. Did they do a second one already or is that one still coming? I can't remember.

[Linus Sebastian]

Still coming?

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah. I don't know. I have pretty low expectations for the second one. Did you end up seeing the Super Mario Galaxy movie?

[Linus Sebastian]

That's a cute name. Minecraft Movie Squared is coming in 2027.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Nice. I wonder what they'll call the third one.

[Linus Sebastian]

No, I have not seen Mario Galaxy.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Oh, are you just, like, over movies at this point? I feel like a Nintendo movie would be pretty high up on.

[Linus Sebastian]

I used to be very into movies. I used to go to, you know, Colossus, like, all the time. I would go see basically everything new that was coming out.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Right.

[Linus Sebastian]

I was. I was very into watching movies. And then, I don't know, something kind of clicked. I think it was just the onslaught of Marvel stuff and a few other just, like, junk things that came out. There was the diamond in the Rough. We went to go see Barbie.

[Dan]

That was fun.

[Linus Sebastian]

That was fun. And then fairly recently, I went to go see Hail Mary. That was awesome. Really like that.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I got to get on that.

[Linus Sebastian]

Going to see Hail Mary has kind of inspired me to, like, maybe I should start looking at, you know, what's in that theater a little bit more often again stuff. Because I've been completely disconnected from movies for a long time. I am very exhausted on superhero movies. Too many I saw on the plane back from open source. I was trying to work on my laptop, but the C was so small that the keyboard was up against my chest and I had to type like this.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Okay, nice.

[Linus Sebastian]

So, like, that gets pretty annoying sometimes. So I was watching a show while I was Trying to get some work done. And I put on. I think it was no Way Home, Spider man, no Way Home. And that was like. That was okay. But I've been. I feel like I've been able to stomach the Spider man movies better than most of the other one. Are those made by Sony?

[Dan]

No.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah. Okay.

[Luke Lafreniere]

No, but they're just. They're just. They have been pretty consistently pretty good.

[Linus Sebastian]

I've. I've. When I've seen bits of those, I've been enjoying those more than most. But just in general.

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Linus Sebastian]

For. For a while, I've been a little. Just tired of superhero movies in general.

[Luke Lafreniere]

This is unironically good.

[Linus Sebastian]

Oh, yeah. Okay.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I know.

[Linus Sebastian]

I didn't even know this was a thing.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah, it was like seven years ago.

[Linus Sebastian]

Oh, okay.

[Luke Lafreniere]

And it just showed up on my radar when I was looking for, like, family movies to watch with the kids. And it's rated like 94% on rotten tomatoes, both critics and audience. And I'm like, come on, you've gotta be kidding. It's actually really funny.

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah. Very good. The second one sucks.

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Even though it's also rated really well. It was just on my mind because we, like, just watched it the other night.

[Linus Sebastian]

This is a spoiler for no Way Home. So if you don't want to take your headphones off for a second, I'll put my hand up when I'm done. Um, but when. When. When the three guys come together. The three spider men.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah.

[Linus Sebastian]

That was cool.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Oh, yeah.

[Linus Sebastian]

I like that a lot, actually.

[Luke Lafreniere]

No way, homes.

[Dan]

Great.

[Linus Sebastian]

I thought that was. That was pretty sick. I didn't get to see the ending. The flight was not very long.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Oh, okay. So you actually have not watched the movie then?

[Linus Sebastian]

No, I've watched like three quarters of it.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Okay.

[Linus Sebastian]

But it was pretty good.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Is this an.

[Dan]

Oh,

[Luke Lafreniere]

wow. I'm really glad we had that conversation. That. What a fulfilling and satisfying conclusion to it. Terrific. Why don't we jump into Another topic here? Four gig GPUs are back on the menu, boys. Introducing the AMD 9050. AMD has unveiled their new RX 9050 with an eight gig retail model and surprisingly, a four gig version that also exists. The eight gig 9050 is rolling out first in the Asia Pacific and Latin America regions with a reported $279 price tag. ASRock briefly showed off a 4 gig RX 9050 challenger model on its site before taking the listing down, but screenshots of the page are still circulating. AMD only lists the 8GB version of the card. A Tom's hardware article indicates that the 8 gig variant has a 128 bit memory bus, while the 4 gig version only has a 64 bit memory bus. Wow, that is exactly the same number of bits that your CPU needs to have to run Minecraft. What a coincidence.

[Linus Sebastian]

Just to address, some people in chat seem to be confused. I did not lose interest in watching the movie. The the plane landed on the ground.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yes.

[Linus Sebastian]

Anyways, one of the discussion questions is who is this even for? Is it 2016? What does this suggest? What entry level GPU market is heading is this? Are we going to get better optimized games or what? In my opinion, no, we're going to get more Roblox.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Oh yeah, oh yeah, And Minecraft.

[Linus Sebastian]

What's the minimum requirements for Roblox?

[Luke Lafreniere]

Oh like nothing. Yeah, WCCFtech's Hasan Hassan tweeted that AMD Mujtaba, I'm going to try. Okay, Mujitaba, we're going with that. Tweeted that AMD confirmed to him that the 4 gig version is intended for OEMs only, meaning it will be found in pre built PCs rather than sold itself a standalone graphics card. So yeah, the answer for you know, who is this for? You know, what is it for? What year is it? Is it's for very, very budget machines. And it's funny to me because I feel like this is one of those things that just kind of comes around cyclically. Under spec, crappy OEM machines have always been a thing. The only difference here is that we're getting an under spec crappy dedicated graphics card so that you can do some rudimentary gaming rather than under spec'd crappy integrated graphics that realistically can't do anything. So I guess that's something. As for the existence of sort of crummy lower spec versions of cards that have cut down memory buses and cut down vram, that, that has been a thing. Going back to my infamous showdown with Sapphire of all people. I bought like, like a Radeon 9200 SE or something like that. 9250 SE? I forget what it was, but basically like my, my family wanted to run like some basic game on the family computer at the time that I already had like my own computer and. And was it 96? No, it was 9,600 SE I think. Anyway, that doesn't matter. The point is that I only found out after I bought it that it was like a crappy 64 bit memory bus version and that was not Advertised anywhere except on like the European region site. And so I pretty much like, I wanted an RMA, I wanted a 128 bit card and they basically told me to pound sand. And I ignored sapphire for years and years and years and years. And I'm over it now. You can tell, you can tell by the way that I'm totally over it.

[Linus Sebastian]

Totally.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I mean, and you know what? This, this sucks because this is gonna be like a whole new generation of people is gonna buy a pre configured system thinking that they're getting a 9050, which isn't great, but they're still gonna see performance reviews out there for what it supposedly is. And they're gonna get this cut down memory bus and they're gonna get this cut down memory quantity and, and they're gonna be getting worse performance and unless they are pretty savvy in terms of running comparative benchmarks, they're not even gonna probably realize they're just gonna have crappier performance. I hate this kind of confusing branding and I just don't think, I don't see any path to us getting rid of it.

[Linus Sebastian]

Here's a question for you.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Sure.

[Linus Sebastian]

Would you go for that or this?

[Luke Lafreniere]

$63. I mean at that price. Oh, obviously this. Yeah, I can get this for, let's assume US$100.

[Linus Sebastian]

Let's assume you're in the States. So this shipping isn't going to be $26. Yeah, it'll be something 15 or something.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Sure, let's call it.

[Linus Sebastian]

But it won't be 26.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Let's call it 80 bucks. Yeah, 80 bucks shipped.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I would take the heck out of this. I'm not going to get a warranty. Like I feel like we always have to acknowledge that there could be.

[Linus Sebastian]

That is a negative.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah, that is a negative.

[Linus Sebastian]

I've had very, very few. I don't actually remember a GPU fully dying on me ever. But there are, there are cases where it happens.

[Luke Lafreniere]

There's degrees of dead. Right. Like I'm reading the Princess Bride to my girls right now and you know, there's all dead and there's also mostly dead. Right. And so for a lot of people, a failed fan bearing on something like a GPU cooler could. That could be a death sentence.

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Right. Because at that kind of a price, right, we're talking. This is $63.50. Okay. So why don't we go ahead and try to find a replacement fan for this gpu? You could probably get it for maybe, I don't know, 10 bucks, something like that. But how much is the shipping going to be? Another 10, 20 bucks.

[Linus Sebastian]

I'm strapping a 120 to it, to be honest.

[Luke Lafreniere]

You are? Not everyone's comfortable with that.

[Linus Sebastian]

No, totally. Totally.

[Luke Lafreniere]

And I disagree. Sure, I would zip tie a fan to it.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah.

[Luke Lafreniere]

But I also, I have to acknowledge,

[Linus Sebastian]

a lot of people won't.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Just because I don't agree with something doesn't mean that it, you know, doesn't exist.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah, totally.

[Luke Lafreniere]

So I understand why people buy a literally way worse new thing, but I don't relate to it. That makes sense.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah, you can get them, but when that is such a high percentage of the car that you just bought, that's

[Luke Lafreniere]

like buying brand new tires for a thousand dollar car. Yeah, like, I just.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah, I was a massive percentage.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I was that guy with my old Civic. Like, literally, you reach a certain point where a vehicle is worth so little that you go, oh, it needs new windshield wipers. Well, it. Like, I guess it's gone then. Like, I'm not gonna. Okay. Obviously exaggerating a little, but I think you guys understand what I mean.

[Linus Sebastian]

I mean, that kind of. Not on the scale of windshield wipers, but my. My fuel injectors in my car blew up, and it was like, what's the repair for this? No, that literally genuinely cost more than the car. I offered to give it to the mechanic. The mechanic was like, no, it's not worth fixing.

[Luke Lafreniere]

And that's how you know that they're not just like jerking you around if you offer to give them the car.

[Dan]

They're like.

[Linus Sebastian]

Because I was like, I don't know what to do with it. And he was like, well, push it to the. Push it to like the. The metal wrecking thing down the road. And then they'll give you like a few bucks for it, but you're gonna get wrecked because there's a lot of non metal materials. So they'll value it at like the lowest part of the whatever. Curve thingy, Whatever. And I got like. I think it was like, not very much money, but.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah, hold on. Where we got the Maxo drive says,

[Linus Sebastian]

hey, push it by hand.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I spent $800 on tires for my $600 truck. Okay, I'm going to. I'm going to be honest with you guys. Once my car was worth under about 2,500 bucks, I stopped buying new tires and I started just buying like one used tire. So by. I don't. You probably never noticed this, because why would anybody look that closely? But by the end of the Civic's life, it had like four mismatched tires on it, which I are not supposed to do, but they all had some tread on them. Like, I'm just. I'm not going to spend that kind of money on something that's not worth that kind of money. It just.

[Linus Sebastian]

This. This is.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Except my bike, that was an exception.

[Linus Sebastian]

Mostly not on topic. And I. You can't do this with consumer tires. I think it works specifically for this. But have you seen people retread, like, forklift tires and stuff?

[Luke Lafreniere]

I have heard of that, actually.

[Linus Sebastian]

Crazy.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I haven't heard of.

[Linus Sebastian]

Their tires are different. You can't just do that. But, like, it is. It is cool. Wait, Luke's Acura is gone? No.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Magnetic flux asks, did you spend more on modding your bike than the cost of the bike?

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah.

[Dan]

Oh, yeah.

[Linus Sebastian]

Pretty sure. By quite a bit.

[Dan]

Dude.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I probably. It's a 2003. Like, what. What is a 2003 SV worth? For sale? 2003 SV. 650s here.

[Linus Sebastian]

My. My Acura, which is from 2009, I bought it in 2013, has had one unscheduled repair ever. And it was minor, cost, very little. At this point in time, I would consider potentially spending more on repairing it than it is technically worth. And the reason for that, for me, would be is that I would know the state of it if I bought another car at that similar value. I don't think I'd be able to, like, trust it as much.

[Dan]

Wow. These things are actually.

[Linus Sebastian]

They redone timing belt. I think that was a scheduled repair last time it happened. I think I'm gonna need to do an unscheduled one now because there is no schedule left, if that makes sense.

[Luke Lafreniere]

These things are actually worth a fair bit still. That's a 2012. Ignore that one. 2006. 3700 bucks. Here's a. Wow. That's a lot. That's a lot of kilometers on a bike, though. 60,000 kilometers for three grand. Yeah. So I probably not quite. But I probably spent close to that on the paint. So, yeah, definitely. That was not about the bike, though. That was not about fixing anything. It was perfectly functional when I took it into the shop. It was about the project. It was about. It was about painting something.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah. Sorry I said that very poorly. My car will do. It'll, like, tell me when a scheduled thing is up. I think it genuinely stops doing that after a while, which is what I was referencing by that. I know there's the interval things. I'm coming up to a decently major interval repair soon because I just passed 210, I think. And there's one coming soon.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Clapped K24 Accord. Says they kind of reach that age where they're just worth one price. As long as they're in decent shape with average mileage. Every car kind of reaches that. Yeah, yeah. There's a lot of types of vehicles that kind of reach that point in their depreciation curve. So you could, like, buy it and then sell it later. And, like, girl math, it didn't really cost anything.

[Linus Sebastian]

I wonder if part of. I wonder if part of that is because people use them for parts to keep their other ones going.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I'm not sure. I mean, I know it's definitely a thing. Like, the shop that was working on mine said that there were parts that they had a hard time finding. Because they don't make them new anymore. And they did have to go track down donor stuff. This is an interesting conversation. So Tim, uh, whatever his name is, Tim T I M E in float plane chat says, but a sports bike at your age, with the family you got, is it really worth introducing splash possibility? Um, you know, it's. It's a. That's a fascinating conversation because, like, at what point, you know, is a motorcycle more or less of, like. Like a, you know, bad? Like, is it, like, is it that my age is too old? Because if anything, I feel like the younger you are, the more life you have ahead of you. I actually see it the opposite way of.

[Linus Sebastian]

Are they saying because you have people responsibilities now. And you don't have people responsibilities when you're younger. Is the age really the unimportant part and the family is the important part?

[Luke Lafreniere]

Mmm, I see. Yeah, I could. I could see that. But I mean, you know, are they

[Linus Sebastian]

using age to describe life stage?

[Luke Lafreniere]

Mmm, possibly. Okay. Okay. I interpreted it the other way. As, like. Like at your age.

[Linus Sebastian]

Like, with the way that they had worded it. I originally interpreted that they were trying to say, like, reflexes are slower and stuff. And then they went. Which is why I'm. I'm assuming it's more the, like, whole family and stuff.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Oh, that's interesting. Gilmore asks, is there a point in your life where your life insurance is worth more than you? Um, I actually have no idea what kind of a policy Yvonne has out on me. Maybe we'll find out someday.

[Linus Sebastian]

Oh, God.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Uh, says, no, no, no, no. Like family and all. Yeah, I mean, I get it. But, like, from my point of view, it's like, man, everything's a risk. Like, every time I take the kids up skiing, like, I'm freaking out a little bit. Right? Because like, yeah, I could break my neck. They could break their neck. Like, there's so many things that we do in life that you could do wrong enough that you die. And motorcycle riding is absolutely one of them. But I.

[Linus Sebastian]

A life without some amount of risk is not much of a life.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah, I. Well, no, it can be.

[Linus Sebastian]

And everyone has to have. Well, I don't know if I agree with that. With. With no risk, you can never get in a car. You can never get in anything.

[Luke Lafreniere]

It's a spectrum. Everyone has their comfort zone. And I'm not, I'm not about to, you know, pass judgment on.

[Linus Sebastian]

People should go out and ride motorcycles right now.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah.

[Linus Sebastian]

But like there's. Everyone has their own lines and you should just. We say the same thing about freaking everything all the time on WAN show. I feel like we're not getting the message across, Like in any of the categories.

[Dan]

Nuance on my WAN show.

[Linus Sebastian]

Get out of here.

[Dan]

Get out, get out.

[Linus Sebastian]

We had a food in the pre show. We're talking about it with this now. Like you. You gotta find your line and just stick to it.

[Dan]

I don't know.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah, I've done.

[Luke Lafreniere]

For some people it's a racing line. For other people it's a cocaine line. You know, I don't.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah, like, very clean in regards to some people it's a mower line and stuff.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Like I. It's all good, you know, like. Yeah, you do what works for you. Yeah, I like, like curious bread's thing here. I don't know what the origin of this is. I've heard it before though. Don't be too focused on trying to add years to your life. Figure out how to add life to your years. Like I. Someone else posted. If I died snowboarding, I would die happy. I mean, the end moments there might not be that suck a lot. Yeah, snowboard accidents can be pretty. Can be pretty messy.

[Linus Sebastian]

Do you see the dude who is right off the chairlift but like suffocating under the snow? Have you seen this video? There's a guy like genuinely, like right off, like they. They get off the chairlift and start sliding forward and someone sees a board kind of poking out of deep powder just like slightly off, where basically the off ramp is. And he goes up and he's like, are you good? And then figures out the guy's like fully buried under the snow and has to dig him out and pull him up. And the guy's like barely able to breathe at first.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Wow.

[Linus Sebastian]

Crazy. There are. There Are risks to lots of things. I think said I've gone snowboarding a ton. I've gone off trail, which you're not supposed to do, but it was a freaking blast. I wouldn't go off trail right now, but I was comfortable with it. And I think it was an actually okay decision when I did.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah. And, like, I don't know. We always. We always set the. We always set. You know, what's not okay as one step beyond whatever we're personally comfortable with. Like, I have to admit, I've had the exact same judgy thoughts about that. That cave diver or. No, not cave diver. The spelunker who, like, went through Devil's something. Yeah, that guy. And like, three people almost died trying to bring him back out. And he was in there for, like, half a day before finally his, like, heart gave out or something like that. And he had, like, this one. Yeah, that one. 27 hours. That's the one. Anyway, if you. If you have a weak stomach, don't read about it because it's. It's horrifying. And, yeah, he left a family behind. And I'm. I'm looking at that going like, yeah, that just seems like the kind of thing that if you have people who depend on you, you probably shouldn't do. But.

[Linus Sebastian]

But everyone has their line. What is it Alex Hornold or something?

[Luke Lafreniere]

Is that the free climber guy?

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah. Alex Honnold.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I. I watched that Guy Do Taipei101, which from my understanding was like, basically whatever for him. Like, not even hard.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah.

[Luke Lafreniere]

And I just, like, I almost wanted to throw up.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Watching him standing on the top of Taipei 101. No ropes, no supports, no nothing.

[Linus Sebastian]

He's. I'm pretty sure he is chilling a wife. And I think he has kids.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yep. He has two. Two kids. So everyone has their line.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah. Rysob brings up a good point. He's like, motorcycles are an interesting topic for this type of a discussion because they're going to be close to the line for most people, either on one side or on the other side. Yeah. You know, the big thing for me on the motorbike is that if there. If I make a mistake or if someone else makes a terrible mistake, the consequences are much worse than in a car. However, the increased buffer space that I can maintain on a bike and the increased situal awareness, situational awareness, and increased visibility that I have, in my opinion, with my skills as a defensive rider, and I'm not sure if everyone's familiar with that term, but basically it's like being a very aware motor vehicle operator. It's like the opposite of being like an aggressive driver or rider. Basically what it means is you are constantly looking for. How do I create the most buffer space possible around myself? Um, on a motorcycle, I find that easier.

[Linus Sebastian]

I've. I very often try to. And I. I've had some actually really fun scenarios with this in the past where you can tell that they figured it out and they. They want to do it as well. But I'll often try to be like a. I'll try to, like, adopt a biker. Like, I'll create a big buffer between the biker and I. And when we come up to stoplights, I'll stop pretty far back. And they just make sure they always have a ton of space. So if something bad happens in front, they can fall back really easily. Just try to make it easier. One thing that I found really interesting was when we tried to do that thing around Taiwan, the original plan was scooters. Like, no pushback from most people.

[Luke Lafreniere]

About the scooter itself, you'd have gotten pushback from me. I've ridden on a scooter in Taiwan. I would not want to again. And I'm. And I'm a motorcyclist.

[Linus Sebastian]

Like, I. Taipei itself is nuts.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah.

[Linus Sebastian]

It gets a lot better. Like, way better.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Okay.

[Linus Sebastian]

But Taipei itself is. Is nuts.

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Okay.

[Linus Sebastian]

But it was interesting to me. There was people who suggested against it because of a variety of different reasons. But I've had people in my life that are like, never get on a motorcycle ever. That were like, well, make sure you're aware of these things. And I was like, huh?

[Luke Lafreniere]

What's the difference?

[Linus Sebastian]

This is very interesting to me. I don't know.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Because in my mind, most the risk

[Linus Sebastian]

is danger around you, Right?

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yes.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah. So it shouldn't matter. I'm still fully out in the open.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah. You have no cage.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah. So I found that.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Why is a scooter okay?

[Linus Sebastian]

I'm not sure. I think there's something like the word motorcycle. People are like, oh, those are scary.

[Luke Lafreniere]

But scooter is just such a friendly word. So it's just. Okay, maybe that is.

[Linus Sebastian]

I mean, it was. It was an interesting part of the whole thing was as I was like, telling people what I was going to do, seeing their reactions to it.

[Luke Lafreniere]

What was. What was your mom's reaction?

[Linus Sebastian]

I think I just told her I was going around Taiwan. It'll.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Okay.

[Linus Sebastian]

Although my mom is a very pro. Live life to the fullest.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Right.

[Linus Sebastian]

Type of person. So I think she would have Heard the idea and been like, that's pretty cool, to be honest.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Which is why you didn't tell her.

[Linus Sebastian]

Well, I don't think we even necessarily knew, like, what. We didn't really know what the plan was until very, very close up to it.

[Luke Lafreniere]

That's interesting. So Bookhorse justifies this saying scooters aren't typically slower, and not having to manage the clutch does make it easier. But, like, I don't know, maybe it's just because I've been like, I learned to drive on a. On a standard transmission, but to me, the clutch does not significantly increase the. The. The mental load of riding a motorcycle. But maybe I. There's so much wobblier says Bacon. Yeah, I've actually. I've only ridden as a. Have I ever driven a scooter? I think I only rode as a passenger. Dennis was driving me, which probably didn't help.

[Linus Sebastian]

Dude, when Dennis drove me, it was wild. The weight distribution is just.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Oh, yeah.

[Linus Sebastian]

Oh, it was horrible.

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Linus Sebastian]

I felt way more secure to drive myself around. And that is not Dennis's fault at all. I just. I had to sit on the back. Like, it just didn't. It didn't make sense.

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Dan Vibe says a clutch also gives you more control. Yeah. Which is. Which is so true. Like, being able to manually control my gears. And maybe this is. I don't know, maybe this is like a hubris thing. Like, maybe I just think it does. But I've always felt like manual control over my gears gives me way more control. Whether we're talking, like, driving in snow in a car, or whether we're talking about a motorcycle. I love manual gear shifting.

[Linus Sebastian]

I think it makes sense. Part of the reason why I think it makes sense is because it keeps your focus on the act of driving more. I could say, like, what's happening with the car and why? So you're gonna pick up on more things and be more in tune with it, it makes sense to me. Even as someone who doesn't do that and can't do that, I think I understand the idea. Like, a lot of manual processes.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah, I. I enjoy it. How did we get on motorcycles from four gig GPUs? It doesn't matter. Let's move on. I do want to pick something.

[Linus Sebastian]

The fan replacement. Spending too much of a percentage on something to replay repair it. Whatever.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Do people like this about this show? Is this the appeal or is this the worst part?

[Dan]

Yes, they like it. This is the best part.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Okay.

[Dan]

This is why I don't redirect you back on topic, I'm picking something we can't even read chat anymore. It's going so fast.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Blake Maverick says my ADD does. Speaking of, I asked for a goody bag from my doctor, so I'm actually gonna try out some short acting ADHD medications over the next little bit. Yeah, it was actually a surprisingly simple conversation. So back when Yvonne was working at the pharmacy, I've always been very curious if it would help me focus better in sports because my ADHD homies out there are gonna be able to relate to this. Okay, When he serves play net shot. When he serves play net shot. When he serves play net shot, he serves lift. You know, like, it's just. You can't. Like, I can't. I can't retain a plan in my brain when. When I need that kind of focus. And so I've. I've always been kind of curious, like, you know, if I just was on Ritalin or something, like I was. When I was a kid, could I. Could I play the net shot? And so back when Yvonne was working at the pharmacy, I was like, hey, like, you have pockets in the front of your, you know, your. Your not robe, not apron. What's a lab coat? You know, you got pockets. Like, what if a couple. What if a couple Adderalls fell in it or, you know, whatever, right? And she. She's like the straightest arrow.

[Linus Sebastian]

She never gonna happen.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Oh, dude. Dude. She was like, that's actually a class whatever schedule, whatever thing. So if a pill goes missing, blah, blah, blah. I'm like, do pills go missing? She's like, well, yeah, pills go missing all the time. And I'm like, okay, so then what difference is it you. If you're the one who took it versus obviously someone else took one at some point? And she's like, well, it's a class whatever schedule.

[Dan]

Get it? So she.

[Luke Lafreniere]

She would never smuggle me anything. And she was always like, okay, yeah, just talk to your doctor. And I'm like, oh, it's such a hassle. I'm probably gonna have to go see a shrink again. And blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. So it turns out that I was chatting with my doctor about this, and this is not the same one that gave me dog medications, in case you're wondering. Real doctor. And I don't know. Basically, I was just like, it would

[Linus Sebastian]

have been funnier if it was.

[Luke Lafreniere]

It was a phone consult.

[Linus Sebastian]

Canine Adderall.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I forget. What was that? Was that the. I think that was the treatment for the bites on my arm. Yeah, that's right. That was antibiotics. Did I ever actually, like, say that?

[Dan]

Uh huh.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Oh, okay. All right, well, I can't remember.

[Linus Sebastian]

I don't know. You did to me.

[Luke Lafreniere]

The point is, so it was like just a phone consult and I was like, hey, so this might be like a weird request, but am I allowed to just have like a, like a, like, I literally called it a goodie bag. Am I allowed to have like a goody bag of different ADHD medications? And she's like, explain. And I'm like, well, okay, let me explain. Like, I was diagnosed as a kid and I was on a. I was on Ritalin and my parents, to their credit after forcing me to go on Ritalin, when I explained I would really like to not do this anymore because it completely changed my personality, they were like, okay. And you know, after a short experiment, we were off it. I got a really good report card that term and then went back to my usual shenanigans. Anyway, the point is, yeah, I had adhd. I have adhd. I was diagnosed as a kid, but like, not like every kid in the 90s was like, like, I had it and I want to use it for sports. And she's like, I mean, is this a performance enhancing drug? And I'm like, well, I'm not competing for money. I don't think it matters.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah.

[Luke Lafreniere]

And she's like, okay, well guess what? There's all kinds of, there's all kinds of modern, you know, pills. And they have some that are like very short, acting like you can get ones that are only good for like three to four hours. And I'm like, oh, okay, so this is basically just like, like I can just pop like a focus pill. She's like, yeah, pretty much. And I'm like, okay, well I'm gonna, I'm gonna give it a shot. And she's like, okay, so I'll give you like five of each and feel free to let me know if it works for you. I couldn't believe how easy it was

[Linus Sebastian]

to get a pillow. You have to prove your previous diagnosis or anything?

[Luke Lafreniere]

No, I mean, I have a pretty good relationship with my doctor and like, I don't ask her for controlled substances very often.

[Linus Sebastian]

So I know this is because if

[Luke Lafreniere]

I'm going to do that, I go to my vet.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah, I mean, it's interesting. I, I just love that like instantly when you said that someone in chat let me go see if I can find was so funny. Oh no. Oh yeah, there it is. Wiley Giraffe. Just in all capital, there's a Few people that are like, oh, and blah, blah, blah, blah. And Wiley draft is just all capital letters, warn the staff, and then a little bit goes behind. He just says combat pay. That's funny.

[Dan]

I mean, it's probably going to chill out. It'll probably be sleepy at work or more chill. That normally how it goes. I don't know if he actually has adhd. He's just gonna be like, yeah, I can get my work done.

[Luke Lafreniere]

This is.

[Dan]

This is fine.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Mr. Blonde says presumably your doctor should have access to your medical records. So.

[Linus Sebastian]

You'd be surprised, actually.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Very complicated and further complicated by the fact that my parents split up and couldn't agree what my name was.

[Linus Sebastian]

So I don't feel like I remember this.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I don't think I've ever talked to you about this.

[Linus Sebastian]

Okay.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I did not go by Linus Sebastian for the first decade of my life.

[Linus Sebastian]

What's your other name?

[Luke Lafreniere]

I'm going to keep it a secret. What

[Linus Sebastian]

makes me want to break things? Not you. No, not him.

[Luke Lafreniere]

My legal name.

[Linus Sebastian]

Object.

[Luke Lafreniere]

My legal name has. Has always been line of Sebastian. So, for what it's worth, you know, my lore, accurate real name name, but everyone from my school.

[Linus Sebastian]

I am so bothered. Okay, sorry.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I like Ana Hikage's answer. Linus Milkman. Sebastian.

[Linus Sebastian]

Oh, man.

[Luke Lafreniere]

So where was I going? Yeah, everyone from my school to my doctors to, like, random courses that I signed up for to an entire side of my family knew me by a different last name.

[Linus Sebastian]

Last name.

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Linus Sebastian]

Okay.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Oh, no. Like Linus has always been. Everyone agreed on Linus.

[Linus Sebastian]

I thought it was first name. Last name is, like, less.

[Luke Lafreniere]

And we all agreed on middle name. We all agreed on middle name.

[Linus Sebastian]

Okay, so it's not Milkman.

[Luke Lafreniere]

No, no.

[Dan]

Yeah. No.

[Linus Sebastian]

Although last name is actually interesting. But I thought it was name, and I was like, what the hell? Okay. All right. Yeah. Speaking of, how the heck did we get here? So you have it? Are you gonna try it?

[Luke Lafreniere]

I don't have it yet.

[Linus Sebastian]

Oh, okay.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah, I'll get it soon.

[Linus Sebastian]

Gotcha. Are you doing that like crazy? I don't know if you want to talk about this, but I think it's nuts. Are you doing that thing where you get pills shipped to your house now? No, it's wild to me that that's a thing.

[Luke Lafreniere]

It's wild that it hasn't been a thing.

[Linus Sebastian]

Both are kind of crazy and that

[Luke Lafreniere]

it's suddenly a thing.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah, but it just seemed like everything was so controlled. Needing to go through pharmacies and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And now they just like ship it around and like the people shipping it. I just feel like there's such a huge opportunity for like drug theft issues and stuff, but it just seems to have never come up.

[Dan]

Is that, is that in Canada? I would never, ever want.

[Linus Sebastian]

It's in Canada.

[Dan]

Pills sh. Shipped at my house.

[Linus Sebastian]

It is absolutely in Canada.

[Dan]

Who talks to you about them? Like, are people on medication?

[Linus Sebastian]

It's an online pharmacy. Yeah, you just get like, basically routine like subscription deliveries of like, in some cases, some pretty serious drugs.

[Dan]

That's crazy.

[Linus Sebastian]

It's wild. Yeah. Someone's saying common in the usa. I think it started down there. But yeah, there are actually a variety of them in Canada.

[Dan]

I think pharmacies I go to will deliver drugs to your house now. But the pharmacy does not like some.

[Linus Sebastian]

Well, this is an online pharmacy.

[Dan]

Okay. So like a, like a work type of thing. I guess. Maybe. I don't know.

[Linus Sebastian]

It feels my testosterone shipped to my door from the pharmacy. I just have to show my id. Yeah. I mean, maybe there's different levels. One person that I know that gets it done, it doesn't have to show id, but maybe, maybe there's different. Maybe it depends on what you're getting.

[Luke Lafreniere]

This is wild. I just, I just googled my dad's name because the. He was a milkman at one point. And so that's, that's why I was like, well, actually, you know, and if I Google my dad's name, he actually does yield an AI response as a person who is notable for some reason, that is enough for him to come up in an AI summary. And it turns out that the thing that AI knows him best for is as a Canadian prolific sperm donor.

[Linus Sebastian]

So he's known for in part, you in a way.

[Luke Lafreniere]

No, I'm the one.

[Linus Sebastian]

Well, I was still.

[Luke Lafreniere]

What's it called? Legitimate offspring.

[Dan]

Yeah. You got addicted to it.

[Linus Sebastian]

That's a form of sperm.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Well, yeah. So I mean, I don't, I don't know if I've ever like mentioned this on the WAN show, but I have potentially hundreds of half siblings. So if you've ever like seen someone on the street and gone like, wow, they look an awful lot like Linus, maybe.

[Linus Sebastian]

Nice. Was it during a certain period of time? Like, would they all be a similar age?

[Luke Lafreniere]

I believe so, yeah.

[Dan]

Nice.

[Luke Lafreniere]

No, I think they'd all be a little older than me.

[Dan]

A little older?

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah. My mom, like, was not into that.

[Linus Sebastian]

So those memes you see on Reddit every once in a while of like, wow, it's a Linus.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah. Maybe possibly. Like, yeah, this guy. Here we go. Like, this guy could actually be my sibling. Same with this guy.

[Linus Sebastian]

What?

[Luke Lafreniere]

Same with this guy. Like, these three people could all legitimately be siblings of mine.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah,

[Luke Lafreniere]

It is. Ixifin. I'm just messing with you guys.

[Linus Sebastian]

No, I got. Yeah. I was like, is he really trying to get that across?

[Luke Lafreniere]

Why did. Why did I take this picture and this picture? What was I thinking?

[Linus Sebastian]

I mean, there's a lot of pictures of you that are. That are questionable.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Like, do I want to look like a villain? I. Oh, why do I just. Why do I take pictures of myself at all?

[Linus Sebastian]

That one's just great. That one doesn't bother me at all. Whatever.

[Luke Lafreniere]

What's this? What's. What does this say again?

[Linus Sebastian]

Probably some sassy.

[Luke Lafreniere]

No, walking. Something waiting to happen. Oh, walking restraining order waiting to happen. That's what that one said.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yep. Makes sense. Yep.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Warehouse 1, the Jean Store really had some banger T shirts back in the day.

[Linus Sebastian]

I think that's where I used to get my shirts.

[Luke Lafreniere]

The one that I wore out to the point of just like it being blessed by the Pope. So full of holes. It was. Was tact is for people not witty enough to be sarcastic. I was. I was that kind of teenager. I'm not gonna. I'm not gonna deny it. There's no point denying it. There's literally people in floatplane chat that apparently went to high school with me. So there's. There's no point in pretending that I wasn't a bit of a sassy little.

[Linus Sebastian]

Sometimes I had this shirt that had a picture on the front of it of two dogs, like, swimming underwater, and the one dog in the front was like farting. So there was bubbles. And the text under it said like, follow the bubbles or something. I don't remember what the text was, but it was something like that. I used to love that shirt. It was a long sleeve shirt. I wore it all the time. And there's one time we were going for family photos and I guess none of my. Neither of my parents checked what shirt I was wearing. I was wearing the like, dog farting underwater shirt. And we showed up to this shoot. Everybody was. This was like. We went to some like, beautiful, like, wedding venue farm thing. And my. My grandpa was getting like this massive, like framed photo of this. It was getting photo edited and stuff. It was like really this whole fancy thing. And my parents made me turn it around. So in the photo, I'm wearing a backwards shirt, but it also had a tiny version of the picture right here. On the back. So there's still. It's like the fanciest family photo we've ever had as me with his shirt. Oh man. Yeah, I'm pretty sure I got a lot of stuff from that store too. Good times. Next topic. I got one.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah.

[Linus Sebastian]

I don't know how we transition out of that, but yeah. GOG released a statement that they've hired a specialist to actively explore the best ways to approach Linux support for GOG Galaxy, which is awesome. GOG Galaxy, for those who don't know, it's a desktop app allowing users to sync all their games from all launchers as well as friends to have one location to manage everything for your gaming needs. Some things left out from their post are things like timeline because I mean the specialist is exploring the best way to do it. So they're definitely not going to have a timeline yet how it will work. That also makes sense. How compatibility will work with things like protons. I suspect it will run proton, but we'll see. Only time will tell. We'll see what happens. But that is, that is exciting.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Very exciting actually. It's, you know, for how just generally based CD Projekt generally happens to be. It sort of surprises me that this wasn't a thing. But then also if you think about it, so many of these old titles in the before four times wouldn't have been compatible with Linux anyway. And also, you know, it was a very small. Like that's just the reality of it. It's a very small customer base that you're catering to, many of whom like proudly, you know, don't play games. And that's why Linux is totally okay for me. Like you're. In terms of your. Your selection bias.

[Linus Sebastian]

I see what you mean.

[Dan]

You're.

[Luke Lafreniere]

You're not doing yourself any favors as a. As a gaming forward platform by targeting Linux traditionally. But it's changing. It's changing so fast. I am still running steamos on my main machine upstairs and I still don't care at all. With that said, I've been gaming very little lately. I've been. I've been busy doing other. Oh yes, hi.

[Linus Sebastian]

You activated my TRAP card. I have also gamed a little, a little bit lately. And speaking of Admiral, I'm going to talk about some remastered games for a second.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Okay.

[Linus Sebastian]

It is Assassin's Creed. I promise won't be way too long. I promise won't be way too long.

[Luke Lafreniere]

The reason, the reason why I'm setting a timer. Okay, you have, you have. How long should I give him? You have Three minutes.

[Linus Sebastian]

Three minutes.

[Luke Lafreniere]

You have three minutes.

[Linus Sebastian]

Five at least. Well, because I'm also talking about Halo.

[Luke Lafreniere]

You've got four. Okay, go.

[Linus Sebastian]

Okay. I played a little bit of Assassin's Creed Black Flag recently. Wonderful remake. When I first jumped in, I had the reaction of like, oh, the graphics are okay, but they're not that great. And I have now improved my opinion on them where, especially after seeing the Halo remake, I think the graphics are way better because something the graphics did was they made me think, this is Black Flag. This is what Black Flag looked like. And then you go back and look at Black Flag footage and you're like, oh God, no, this is way better.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Matching the nostalgia filter is actually pretty

[Linus Sebastian]

challenging to the point where I'm stunned how well they did it. It's not like perfect. This is a video game from 2026. Black myth, Wukong, whatever. But it, it perfectly matches my nostalgia glasses in a way that is just fantastic. Then you look at Halo. Not the same thing at all. They completely wrecked the aesthetic. It does not look. I haven't even played it. I've looked at a bunch of videos of it. Wow.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Look, some of the comments under very wrong.

[Linus Sebastian]

I did. I did also read the comment, but I did watch the videos. It looks very wrong. And I think this is interesting because if you look at the Steam current players, I checked this, okay, so 23,000 for the 24 hour peak. 17ish. Now I checked this a little while ago. Fairly similar numbers.

[Luke Lafreniere]

If I look, it's been very flat, very consistent.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah. And.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Oh wait, no, that's just total Steam users at the top.

[Dan]

Never mind.

[Linus Sebastian]

It's been around. It's been out for a while now. 19 days ago, peak of 100,000. Like it's. This isn't a completely brand new game anymore. A lot of people will have played it and then already fallen off.

[Dan]

Right.

[Linus Sebastian]

Then I look at Halo campaign Evolved.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Is that out now? I didn't even realize it was out. When did it come out? Did it come out this week?

[Linus Sebastian]

It came out very recently. All time peak was three days ago and it is getting mogged. If you think about the launch of Halo, the original Halo, and you compare that to the launch of Assassin's Creed Black Flag. Like Black Flag was an incredible game.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah.

[Linus Sebastian]

But you can't look at me with a straight face as someone who freaking loves Black Flag and tell me that Black Flag had more hype around it than Halo.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Oh, heavens no.

[Linus Sebastian]

You can't tell me that there's more Assassin's Creed fans than There is Halo fans.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I mean, I will say, though, was Assassin's Creed Black Flag the one that was hype enough that we did, like, a dedicated performance video?

[Linus Sebastian]

I think so. But that was largely because I was trying to push it super hard. It was very hyped, though. People did really like Assassin's Creed Black Flag. It was generally seen as a very positive game. It was a little bit conflicting because it's. It stepped away quite far from the actual being an Assassin side of things. And you were more of a pirate and you sailed a ship into things like that.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Oh, yeah, Assassin's Creed. Wait, no, we didn't. I thought we did AC4. Is it AC4?

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah. Yeah, it is.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Okay. It was a different video I was thinking of. I was thinking of. Yes, here we go. So we apparently did two videos on Assassin's Creed. Hell yeah.

[Linus Sebastian]

See, you can see AC Fanboy. I'm wearing the shirt from it.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Literally an influencer. No one cared. So that's cool.

[Linus Sebastian]

Hell, yeah.

[Luke Lafreniere]

The one that I was actually thinking of was this one where we did next gen console versus PC. And we used Battlefield 4, the video that's autoplaying.

[Linus Sebastian]

That's Gameranx.

[Luke Lafreniere]

And we used Assassin's Creed 4 and Battlefield 4 as our image quality. As our image quality comparisons. So this. This was actually a pretty fun video. It was a lot of. This was so much.

[Linus Sebastian]

A lot of work.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I think this was the last video that I had a hand in editing because I had to catch a plane the next day. And some of the. So you see how these crappy text insert things are the same ones that we use on the WAN show. Same font, same drop shadow, same everything. It's because we didn't get all of the finalized. Yeah, we're out of time. So this is it. This is time. Okay, well, we won't talk about that anymore.

[Linus Sebastian]

What?

[Luke Lafreniere]

But I don't make the rules.

[Linus Sebastian]

That was you, though.

[Luke Lafreniere]

That's the rules. I don't make the rules.

[Linus Sebastian]

You said the limit was for me talking about it, was it not?

[Luke Lafreniere]

Oh, that's true, actually.

[Linus Sebastian]

You were talking about it.

[Luke Lafreniere]

All right, fine. So I didn't finish all the screen cap for this until, like, really late and everyone had gone home already. And in order for us to get that day's upload done, given that I was going to, like, be on the plane to the middle of. But nowhere, somewhere the next day or something like that, I had to. I had to have one of the editors just, like, throw everything on the timeline for me. And then I had to go. And I had to put all of the screen cap in. And then I had to, like, figure out how to export it.

[Linus Sebastian]

I thought this was a me video.

[Luke Lafreniere]

No, this was me.

[Dan]

Huh? Yeah.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Look at that guy.

[Linus Sebastian]

No, I know. You're hosting it wearing the old. Yeah, see, there I am.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yep.

[Linus Sebastian]

I thought I was doing the capture.

[Luke Lafreniere]

You did a bunch of the setup, but it wasn't done. And there were, like, reasons that it, like, couldn't be finished. And I had to. I had to do it.

[Linus Sebastian]

Got it.

[Luke Lafreniere]

The last one that I edited fully. Fun fact. Corsair tramp stamp.

[Dan]

This is great.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Riley.

[Dan]

What?

[Luke Lafreniere]

Remember when Corsair changed their logo to that tramp stamp thing?

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah.

[Dan]

How long did that last?

[Luke Lafreniere]

I don't actually remember.

[Linus Sebastian]

It can't have been very long.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah. This. This is the. This is the last video that I fully edited. Not this. Get out of here.

[Linus Sebastian]

And I remember when we used to do like, this is how you make brushed aluminum and stuff. I don't think people watched. They watched this. I don't think people watched the, like, fake brushed aluminum.

[Luke Lafreniere]

This was pretty topical.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yes, it was. This was very topical.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah. Just in case I need it for later. It's a Scooby Snack. And I don't know. This is the kind of thing I feel like I couldn't get away with anymore, where I'm just like, oh, I know what to do. I need a Corsair logo. I'm just going to destroy the front of this case.

[Linus Sebastian]

Oh, my God. Oh, my God.

[Dan]

More of that, please.

[Linus Sebastian]

Oh, my God, Please. I remember this now because I remember that case.

[Dan]

Oh, my God.

[Linus Sebastian]

But. Oh, my God.

[Dan]

Can we do that more, please?

[Luke Lafreniere]

I don't think we need to do that more. I don't think people want to see it anymore. I don't like. There it was. It was a. Is one of those things I hate. It's such a, like, product of his time. Old meme. Yeah, but like, it was a different time. Right?

[Linus Sebastian]

That's fascinating.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah, I know. Right?

[Linus Sebastian]

I remember how to make plastic look like brushed aluminum.

[Luke Lafreniere]

How do I make a whole 5 minute video about that? I don't know. I still don't know, Luke. And we actually had two sponsor spots on it. It's a five minute, eight second video with two sponsor spots on it.

[Linus Sebastian]

This was actually not too bad. Glossy to brush plastic. DIY Experiment Addressing functionality and appearance. What? What a anti clickbait title.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Steve named that.

[Linus Sebastian]

Oh, my God. And then you can gravy see the, like, different. I mean, the thumbnail Actually does a pretty good job of explaining what we're gonna do.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah. Kind of eliminating glossy plastic for good. Maybe it's just hard for me to read it from here.

[Linus Sebastian]

Oh, no, I mean the. Like. Yeah, probably. Because, I mean, the text that's under that on the individual surfaces, 3m heavy, 3m final, 3m contour, surface stripping, steel wool grade 0, steel wool grade 3, and sandpaper.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Oh, my goodness.

[Dan]

All right.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Did it work?

[Dan]

I don't remember.

[Luke Lafreniere]

You're using, like, a router or something, I think. Right. This was 11 years ago. That's crazy. Yeah.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah. So for, like, that many views 11 years ago.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Nah, it's not great.

[Linus Sebastian]

Really? I don't think so. Can we do a lot of videos that came with that?

[Luke Lafreniere]

Because the. Cause the evergreen stuff that did well, if anything, it, like, accumulates views.

[Linus Sebastian]

I guess this probably could have been evergreen, but the war against glossy plastic kind of ended.

[Dan]

Did it?

[Linus Sebastian]

I feel like it kind of did.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Is glossy plastic still, like, a thing?

[Linus Sebastian]

I don't feel like people hate it as much as they used to. I'm trying to think if it's even in this era. It was like every single review of any product that had glossy plastic in it on YouTube, people would call it out like it was. It was a huge deal back then.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I think that's really true.

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah, I remember that.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah.

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Luke Lafreniere]

We don't really. We don't really talk about it anymore. It's definitely.

[Linus Sebastian]

It's.

[Luke Lafreniere]

It's definitely still a thing, but maybe we just avoid it doesn't look that bad.

[Linus Sebastian]

It doesn't look great.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I mean, it looks better than glossy plastic, which was.

[Linus Sebastian]

Which was the objective, pretty much the goal. That's a really long shot. My God.

[Luke Lafreniere]

You know what, though? I actually prefer a long shot if you're talking about something compared to ripping it away from me before. I'm. I. I often talk to our very Gen Z editors in my, like, frame IO notes. I'll be like, hey, leave this here for literally twice as long. Because two things. Number one, I'm still talking about it. So you're like. You're, like, ripping away the thing that. That my eyes want to be looking at while I listen to what's going on with it. And B, a lot of people watch at 1 and a half to 2x speed, and it's at that speed. It's literally like not even on screen for long enough to even process what you're looking at. So we really need to put this on for longer. But I feel like that's Part of that is just like, okay, Grandpa. Who needs longer to process what's on the screen? The other thing is second screen. I like giving people a chance to. Okay, we're talking about this thing. Have it still be there when we look at it. But it's just. You can just tell their mindset about it is totally different. They're just like, well, we've seen it. Now move on. Like, hold on. Hold on a second. Hold on. Maybe get your editor some ADHD meds. No, I mean, I do feel that as a company, we're probably overrepresented for certain Neuro Divergent. What?

[Dan]

I think somebody once said to me before that if you were to forget your medication when you got to work, like, we have all of them.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I don't want to hear that. No exchange of medication ever happens on these premises.

[Dan]

Oh, no. It's the same one.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Not what I meant. Daniel. Oh, boy. Anywho, what are we supposed to be doing? Yes. CW announcement. Oh. Oh, yes. Where's mine?

[Dan]

Look, do you want to grab the page? Are we talking about CW announcements?

[Linus Sebastian]

Sorry, I was checking in, actually. Fairly important message, but it is all good.

[Dan]

Do that when there's not dead air.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yes. Sorry, I didn't realize there was dead air for a second.

[Dan]

Okay, there we go. Now you can go back to ignoring us.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Oh, yeah. Oh, wait. I'm looking at the wrong thing, but here it is. Yes. This week, we're introducing another denizen of the land of Siberia, the percussive Maintenance technician. The artwork is packed with fun little details, from the Siberia employee badge to the USBs hanging off of our technician. It's another look into the growing lore of Siberia. You guys might remember we did the Map of Siberia desk pad, and, oh, man, I came up with another really fun one. I have to send this to Lisa. I want to add Light Peak to the. To the Siberia lore, and it would be a mountain, but you remember Light Peak, right?

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah, I think so.

[Luke Lafreniere]

It was the code name for Thunderbolt during development. So, yeah, I want to add Light Peak. Anyway, the point is, this is alongside our cleanup wizard and alongside our map of Siberia. We're just kind of. I don't know. Basically, this is just like a Lisa initiative that grew legs and a big club and.

[Linus Sebastian]

Wow.

[Luke Lafreniere]

And a big shoulder protector. What's up?

[Linus Sebastian]

I guess people liked it.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Which one?

[Linus Sebastian]

I mean, large xl, double xl, and triple XL are all sold out.

[Luke Lafreniere]

We might just be. We might just be out of black.

[Linus Sebastian]

Oh, the blanks.

[Dan]

Yep.

[Luke Lafreniere]

It depends on our stock of Blanks, which we're working on having more consistent stock anyway. Available in our classic black poly blend tee or a limited run tie dye. Yes, we are still trying to get rid of these LTX 23 tie dyes.

[Linus Sebastian]

When I walked onto the set, Dan was like, oh, there's shirts for you. And I saw this one. I was like, we still have those.

[Luke Lafreniere]

It's not so much that we still have them, it's that we have them again. We found more palettes of them.

[Linus Sebastian]

How?

[Luke Lafreniere]

I don't know, Luke.

[Linus Sebastian]

I thought we just did like an audit thing.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I don't know. Loop.

[Linus Sebastian]

Where do we keep finding stuff?

[Luke Lafreniere]

Nia? I don't know.

[Linus Sebastian]

It's wild.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Anyway, this is a 100% cotton tie dye anyway. Both have a durable, high quality print built to survive more abuse than your hardware. Probably will shop the Percussive Maintenance Tech T shirt at LMG gg. Percussive maintenance.

[Linus Sebastian]

Or if you don't know how to spell and type all that stuff out, it's a huge banner when you go to the site. So you can just go to lttstore.com and it's right there.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yep. And while you're on lttstore, if you add literally anything to your cart, like say for example, this wonderful T shirt that I'm wearing and you go ahead and check out, you will see that when we are live, you can send a checkout message.

[Dan]

Yay.

[Luke Lafreniere]

That's right. When Luke and I stream, we don't really believe in you throwing money at your screen and getting nothing in return. Instead, you should throw money at your screen. You should get high quality merchandise in return. And hey, I mean since you're throwing money at your screen and we're streaming, maybe we will also respond to your message. So Dan sometimes does little replies like you can see up at the top of the screen right now. Sometimes Dan does. I did this out of order. Whatever. Producer Dan. Okay, we got the wave in nice. And sometimes he curates it. Okay, Dan, show them what a curated checkout message looks like.

[Dan]

Well, they can hear it. They can't see it, but hi, when DLL last week you discussed the difficulty keeping product interest up.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Do you think this is due to

[Dan]

the historically longer restock times?

[Luke Lafreniere]

I think it is definitely a significant contributor. It is something that we're trying to work on. Like it wasn't that noticeable with the cables because the demand was so much greater than the supply. But one of the things that we did do in order to have our restock land earlier was after at the initial launch we already had raw cable stock that was pre produced and ready for us to make whatever turned out to be the most popular sizes.

[Linus Sebastian]

That was really smart. And I had people reach out pointing out that was really smart like that work in the industry that deal with

[Luke Lafreniere]

products because we didn't know what the main cable lengths were going to be and especially because we have cable lengths that are kind of non standard cable lengths. So we were going into this going, okay, well there is no market data that we can study to know how many people are going to buy a.4 meter cable. We don't know that. And also we had no way of knowing how people would react to that. Would they go oh ew, that's weird, I don't want that, that's not the right cable size. Or would they go holy crap, I've always wanted a cable that is like this much shorter than my other cable so that it like perfectly fits. I will buy only that one. We had no idea which way it was going to go. So we had a whole bunch of cable stock ready to go and then we actually air shipped a bunch of it so that we could kind of have waves of restocking and alleviate some of the pressure. We did the same thing with the socks. We actually have materials staged already. So the next order the of socks, now that they're, they're all like. I feel like we're victims of our own success on these last couple launches. Like we have left so much revenue on the table. But the flip side of it is that if you go the other way you end up overstocked and then it's a disaster. So there's it's balancing act. So the point is with the socks we do have material stage, we are going to bring it in sooner. But yes, you're absolutely right Michael, that our long restock times do I think contribute to people just not being able to rely on oh I need something, I want something, I'm just going to go to LTT store and they'll have it in stock. And it's something that we are, we're constantly working on. But as always weighed against that, we know that new product launches tend to perform really well and help us have the revenue and the momentum that we need in order to keep product development going. Running a business is hard. I had a friend in the industry, we were talking about something completely unrelated and we ended up on the subject of just like how's business? And they basically made an offhand remark to me that was like any direct to consumer brand that makes it through 2026 can handle anything.

[Dan]

The.

[Luke Lafreniere]

The war stories that we're hearing right now from everywhere. From basically everywhere. Like, I was. I was talking to Taryn because I was basically. We had like, our Q2 financial meeting, which you were in, and I was like. I was looking at cw and I'm like, okay, just so that I understand, you know, revenue do this. You know, like, flattish up. Ish. Whatever. Profit do this. Can we just. Can we talk about this a little bit? And he was basically just like, yeah, well, between, you know, fuel costs, inflation, having to maintain the multiple logistics hubs in order to mitigate some of the tariff garbage.

[Linus Sebastian]

The extremely dramatic song and dance around tariffs.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yep. He was like, yeah, it was like a. Like it. Like a. Well into double digits hit, like a lot of manufacturing. It's tough right now when.

[Linus Sebastian]

When. When America was largely targeting China with tariffs. A lot of manufacturing that, you know, believed the stated tariffs would stay around for more than two weeks genuinely tried to, like, pick up, shop and move to other countries. That has extreme cost to it. It also has extreme cost to it. When you get 25 of the way through that operation. Oh, forget it, cancel it. And go back to trying to operate in China and in some cases, try to rehire all the people that you just dropped off or whatever else, and those costs get passed on to the people that are trying to sell the goods that are being made at the factories.

[Luke Lafreniere]

To be clear, not all of it. We've clearly, you know, based on the conversation that we were having during our Q2 discussion, we've absorbed a lot of it. We, you know, we want.

[Linus Sebastian]

No, no, I was saying the costs go to you.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Oh, yeah, well, they also go to

[Linus Sebastian]

the consumer in some cases.

[Luke Lafreniere]

It's both. Yeah, it's both. I mean, the difference in the. In the price of our most cases, probably on the global site versus the US Site, I feel like we kind of. We kind of dodge a bullet on it. I mean, me bringing it up is just gonna, like, bring it up now. But I feel like a lot of. A lot of the. A lot of Americans have a very sort of America central sort of worldview. And, you know, as. As being America's hat all these years, we are acutely aware of things like exchange rates and things like, you know, the. The challenges of international travel. Whereas, like, I frequently encounter Americans who are just like, well, yeah, everything is priced in US Dollars and I don't need a passport to go anywhere that I would want to go. And I'm like, well, okay, like the. The percentage of Canadians who hold a passport compared to Americans is like, wildly higher because so, so much of, you know, like, vacation destinations or whatever else, like you want to go somewhere hot, you sure as heck aren't going anywhere in Canada with the exception of, you know, the summer, certain places. Anyway, the point is just that, you know, as a, as a, as a Canadian or an Australian or, you know, anywhere that doesn't just get to shop in their own currency all the time, you tend to be acutely aware of exchange rates. So when I go onto a store, like, I'm just. I'm automatically like, oh, like, what is that in my currency? What is that in US Dollars? What is that? I'm kind of doing the conversions. Whereas we haven't really taken a ton of flack for the fact that our socks are way cheaper on the global site compared to the US site. Even though it's 33 something, I think, versus like 30. But that's Canadian dollars.

[Linus Sebastian]

It's 33.99 versus 29.99.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah. So that's 29.99 US dollars. So times like 1.38 or 1.4 right now or something like that. So it's actually like 40 Canadian dollars on the U.S. site. But most Americans won't do that conversion. So yeah, 42. That's a. Yikes. Is the cad that bad right now?

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Okay. Oh, man. 1.4. Look at her go. Haha. Yeah. Hey, I mean, whatever. You didn't eat any red bell peppers, did you?

[Dan]

Do they.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Do they grow red bell peppers in America? What are you looking at?

[Linus Sebastian]

Just sadness. Anyways, another comp.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Oh, Mexico, apparently. Apparently it's a big. Oh, yeah, yeah. United States shows up on there in the. In the AI summary. Yeah, sure. Hit me with another comm.

[Dan]

Hello, Dante. I hope your week has been wonderful. I bought a Flipper zero in Canada. Whatever happened with the legislation around them? Any cool projects to recommend love from Saskatoon?

[Luke Lafreniere]

Oh, that's a really good question. I. I never heard or thought about it ever again.

[Linus Sebastian]

The Flipper Zero?

[Luke Lafreniere]

No, the legislation around potentially banning them.

[Linus Sebastian]

I never heard about that either, and they still seem for sale, so.

[Luke Lafreniere]

So apparently nothing really happened. As for cool projects to recommend, do you mean with the Flipper 0 or do you just mean like random cool projects? Because I built one of these.

[Linus Sebastian]

Oh, he's not gonna have any, so keep going.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Cool. I built one of these on my vacation and it was pretty cool. I am still trying to figure out how to. Well, whatever you can get them Places other than Amazon. I bought it somewhere other than Amazon. I sent. I sent Luca a picture of this, I think little video. This is a working steam engine. So I still have to get, like, a special steam engine oil that actually finally just shipped today. I called around to local hobby stores, and they were like, this is so funny. I called one of them and I was like, hey, so bit of a long shot, you know, question.

[Dan]

And he.

[Luke Lafreniere]

He replies like. He, like, cuts me off practically. He's like, ha, ha. There's no such thing as a long shot question. We, you know, we get that all the time. What can I do for you? And I'm like, I need steam engine oil. And he's like, oh, yeah. Not for a long time. Okay. Anyway, I still need to get some steam engine oil. I can't run it.

[Linus Sebastian]

Does it run off of the oil or is oil for. Okay, so what is its fuel then?

[Luke Lafreniere]

Like, I'm gonna let you guess. Coal. Oh, well, okay. Yeah, fuel. So it uses alcohol. Okay, so under here is an alcohol.

[Linus Sebastian]

Oh, yeah, I didn't mean. Oh, my God.

[Luke Lafreniere]

No, the steam engine oil is just oil. So steam engine oil, you can't just use any oil. There's, like, substitutes that you could, like, maybe use for a little bit, but it has, like, animal tallow in it because. Yeah, it wants to be, like, a healthier oil. So, you know, so you. French fries. Okay. It doesn't matter. The point is you put. You put alcohol. You put alcohol in the reservoir down here, which, like, pops out on the other side. Here you go. Here you go. There's a. There's a good view of it. And then it burns and it heats up the water that's in this reservoir up here. And then. Oh, yeah, here. There. There's a cool cutaway. There's like, a pressure relief valve here. And then this is actually basically your, like, throttle. So this determines how much steam is allowed to go through here. This smokestack doesn't smoke. I was very disappointed by that. Yeah, the exhaust is actually. Oh, you can't see it on this cutaway. Can't see it here either. Gosh darn it. Where's the darn exhaust?

[Linus Sebastian]

Is it lying then? That picture shows a bunch of smoke coming out of the stack, does it not?

[Luke Lafreniere]

Oh, did it?

[Dan]

I don't know.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I didn't see. Beautiful. Anyway, the exhaust comes out this side and then. Yeah, so this reservoir right here gets filled with steam engine oil, which has animal tallow in it. Apparently, it's every. The reason I keep bringing it up Is like every article I found. So you need the one with the animal tallow. I'm like, okay, all right, all right,

[Dan]

all right, all right.

[Luke Lafreniere]

And then it goes into here and then basically the piston goes up and down and it spins this thing and there's a reverse gear so you can actually run it either way. And I'm so excited and I'm going to cool a steam machine with it. So I built this on my vacation so that I can bring it into the office and figure out how to hook it up to the cooling fan. You'll find a way on a steam machine. So I'm going to have the steam powered steam machine.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah.

[Luke Lafreniere]

And it will probably get like 300,000 views. But it's okay because I got to build a little model steam engine and expense it.

[Linus Sebastian]

Did you film any of it? Are you just going to show up with a built steam engine?

[Luke Lafreniere]

I took a. I took a couple videos. I did it with the kids. So it was like. It was like a fun little crafting. It didn't take very long. Really expensive like this.

[Linus Sebastian]

I did pay about pretty wickedly expensive

[Luke Lafreniere]

that much for it. But like these are all little precision cast or precision machined parts. Like you put together all of this.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Over on the left here.

[Linus Sebastian]

If you're doing it with your kids too, that's probably fun in an educational way. Yeah, no, fun in an educational way is maybe not the easiest thing to ever get.

[Dan]

No, it was.

[Luke Lafreniere]

It was really fun. It was really cool.

[Linus Sebastian]

I googled desktop Steam engine and the second I got past the products listing. Wait for it. Okay. Sponsored products. Actual popular products.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Nice Steam machine.

[Linus Sebastian]

Nice and makes sense.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Oh man, my back sore. I played tennis. I don't play tennis. And so it's just like. Just like different movements. Yeah, different movements. Motions. Was really sunny. Tired.

[Linus Sebastian]

Are you outdoors?

[Dan]

Noice.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Noice.

[Linus Sebastian]

Noice. Next up, speaking of Steam engines, Valve released the official Steam Machine CAD files, giving modders and manufacturers the tools to create custom shells and designs. The community announcement also included updates on FSR 4.1 support and Steam Machine reservations. The CAD release comes as DBRAND shifts its Steam Machine plans. After its portal inspired companion Cube case was shelved over Valve trademark concerns, the company now appears to be focusing on skins instead of cases. I guess that makes sense. Sure. Discussion Question. What are your plans for LMG's steam machine? Are we going to dress that bad boy up? Well, I guess you're going to cool it with a steam engine. So that's been answered.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah.

[Linus Sebastian]

What do you. Okay, this is really long. What do you think of a world where it's common practice for console PC case TV manufacturers to release CAD files? I want all my tech to have cute little devil horns or look like the Batman logo. Gosh darn it. I mean, fantastic.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah, they should.

[Linus Sebastian]

I think that would be wonderful.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Buy Glow Circuit. I get a commission. Okay. That's all.

[Linus Sebastian]

Do you. Is it like that's. That's this thing. Right. So there's the collab thing.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah.

[Linus Sebastian]

That's cool.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah. There are rap partner dbrand.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah.

[Luke Lafreniere]

And it's not like yo, yo, yo, dbrand, yo. Like, it's not like that kind of rap. It's the other kind of rap. The rapping things.

[Dan]

Yep.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Well, I don't personally get a commission. Linus Media Group Incorporated gets a commission. And then, you know, people like Colton get paid, presumably. I think you pay him.

[Linus Sebastian]

Nah, he got fired. Valve seems like one of the coolest, most consumer friendly tech companies lately. Who else is making a case for that title? I don't know. Who else is taking that much profit margin?

[Dan]

It's.

[Luke Lafreniere]

It's one of those things. It's like when the. When the good times are good, everything's good. It takes it. It takes a truly special sort of evil. When the good times are rolling and you like act real evil. I don't know. I don't know what a Valve would look like if they didn't have the luxury of an unlimited money printing machine.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah. Because they just take massive percentages from developers. Yeah.

[Luke Lafreniere]

And Valve also participates in stuff that we're not really huge fans of. The way that they've turned a blind eye to gambling on skins.

[Linus Sebastian]

Not like super admirable, really turned a blind. I like encouraged it in a lot of ways. Only recently, I think have they taken any steps at all to not encourage it. So it's. I mean, I like. I like Steam. I like Valve. I think if you want to look at a lot of companies at a similar size, they're doing a lot better about a lot of things.

[Dan]

Yep.

[Linus Sebastian]

But it just. I don't agree with the like, they're

[Luke Lafreniere]

a good guy, full stop.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Objectively.

[Linus Sebastian]

The like constant like bootlickery kind of stuff.

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Linus Sebastian]

I'm not super into it, but is what it is. If you do. Hey, all power to you. Speaking of, not all power to you. Deleting files is illegal now is the. Is the title of this one. It's a little. It's a little. This is legitimate school of clickbait going on.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I don't know. I actually think this is legitimately pretty scary.

[Linus Sebastian]

It is, but it's an intense title. It's not even necessarily wrong. It's just an intense title. They grab your attention. They know what they're doing.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah.

[Linus Sebastian]

This person's made some titles before.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah.

[Linus Sebastian]

The U.S. department of justice is prosecuting

[Luke Lafreniere]

their water condensation experts. They know what they're doing.

[Linus Sebastian]

I gotcha. Is prosecuting Samuel Turnick, and who is an American citizen for allegedly providing US Border authorities with a passcode that wiped the contents of his phone. Mr. Turnick's attorneys say that it was unlawful for US Customs and Border Protection to seize the phone when Mr. Turnick returned to the US last year. The US government has long claimed it conservancies people's devices without a search warrant or court order until they are permitted entry to the United States. The case centers on a feature of graphene OS which lets a device owner set a duress pin, which is awesome. And on entry deliberately wipes the phone instead of unlocking it, which is kind of brilliant discussion. Question. Do you use a burner hardware when traveling to the us?

[Luke Lafreniere]

I don't, but I'm starting to feel like I should. Like, this is kind of crazy.

[Linus Sebastian]

I don't. But I have cleansed content off my device multiple times.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah, I'm. I'm looking at this going like, I'm failing to understand how it is not within my rights to delete the data on a device that I own at any time that I wish to delete said data.

[Linus Sebastian]

I don't agree with that.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Really.

[Linus Sebastian]

At any time.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Okay. But I'm not. There is no warrant. There's no suspicion of any kind of ill doing. Like if I'm just. If I'm crossing a border. Oh, man, there's a lot. There's a lot of stuff that doesn't fly when you're crossing a border. That is sort of generally a right, because you are. You're literally in no man's land. You are tough.

[Linus Sebastian]

I don't. I mean, I don't like it. I don't know that we're gonna have a solution, but I don't like it. Actually. They claimed he had CSAM on it. How would they know? That's crazy. What do you mean?

[Luke Lafreniere]

And they can claim lots of things. The US is claiming a lot of stuff about a lot of things right now. I'd love to see the evidence for that.

[Linus Sebastian]

Pegasus. They're in every single home phone. If they knew then. Then they wouldn't need to do this.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah. They're also sure as heck not in graphene os. I can guarantee you that. I can't guarantee you that, but I can pretty much guarantee you that graphene OS doesn't have any Pegasus living in it. Yeah.

[Linus Sebastian]

I mean, at the very least, be aware when you're crossing the border. I have purged my. A lot of things from my phone many a time going across the border, just knowing that they might seize it. And it's like, okay, well, maybe they'll have some stuff, but they won't have things that I don't want them to have. Yeah.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Like a. Like a duress, duress password. Like I am.

[Linus Sebastian]

You can also do things like sign out of a bunch of different things.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Mm. But then like, at. Yeah. Like, there's an interesting conversation here. Like, they asked for a password, he gave them a password. Like if they. So you could sign out of something, but if you. If they demand your password, are you obligated to give them a real password?

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah, I wonder.

[Dan]

I don't know.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I mean, this. This really comes down to the same general questions that we always end up talking about when. When we approach anything to do with, like, encryption.

[Dan]

Right.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Is do we have a right to privacy?

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Luke Lafreniere]

For our personal data. And it's. I think in general, you've been very hardline. We have a right to encrypt our data and we have a right to privacy with respect to our personal data. Does that change at a border? Because I could actually see an argument for that.

[Linus Sebastian]

I can understand the border people wanting that to change at the border.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I could understand that too.

[Linus Sebastian]

I think it depends who you are. This person is an American citizen. In my opinion, they should still have that right. I do. I would kind of question, if you have a. If you have a foreign national entering your country, does that change things at all? I'm not sure. But if it's like literally my own country, like, I don't screw off.

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I don't know. I. I think we've talked about this on the. I think we've talked about this on the WAN show in the past, but for. For many years it seems to have chilled out lately. But for many years, I actually found that I got way more hassle from Canada Border Protection Agency compared to. Compared to the States. Yeah, like coming home. They generally do way more than when I was leaving.

[Linus Sebastian]

I've had casual for fun conversations with American border guards, like, often. Yeah. The last time I went over was the first time ever that my car has been searched at the border. It was so fast. And my Car was in a completely exactly the same, it was state when I came back. I don't even know what they did. I was having a casual conversation for the thing dude, like with the border guard. He like apologized to me and he's like, you got selected. It's FIFA. A lot of people are getting selected right now. Sorry.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Right.

[Linus Sebastian]

Go do the thing. I got out of my car, walked into the thing dude checked my paper and went, yeah, cool, you're fine. And you're also good to go by the way. And I walked back to my car and they were already done. I walked like 30ft and then walked back. I have no idea what they did. I don't know if they were looking for like something specific that was relatively large and they were able to go really fast or what, but it was like actually no time.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I wonder if it was just like a drop thing. They just had the dog go, yeah,

[Linus Sebastian]

maybe I have not a clue. Very quick. And then coming on the coming back up. Yeah, they were like way more pointed about stuff.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I mean this is a good question from Dwinlen. What's the difference between this and wiping your data before you cross the border?

[Linus Sebastian]

I've heard that can be a problem too.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Why?

[Linus Sebastian]

I don't know.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Am I not allowed to cross the border with a blank phone? That seems crazy.

[Linus Sebastian]

That is pretty wild. I mean things you can do is have a real looking but not real email. Have it signed up to like a bunch of stuff that just sends you email. No, but seriously, none of this should be necessary. It's very easy to generate an email that looks real for you. There's tons of different versions of your name. So you could just spin up a Gmail that's like literally your name but in just some variation and then sign it up to like a bunch of different services.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Like a daily prayer thing.

[Linus Sebastian]

Sure, whatever. Some LinkedIn that is even, isn't even the LinkedIn that you actually normally use. Yeah, it'll, it'll spam you a bunch of emails all the time because it's LinkedIn just like services like that just make it look like it is real. Do things. Yeah, do things like that.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I shouldn't man.

[Linus Sebastian]

You could be logged out of that email on your phone all the time and then when you're going to go over the border, just flip emails.

[Luke Lafreniere]

There's ways I shouldn't need any of that.

[Linus Sebastian]

No, I, I agree but I mean I remember, I remember being able to just walk over the border without any identification. Canada, the U.S. used to be very, very close. That changed September 11th fairly obviously. But yeah, it used to be like very much a non issue.

[Dan]

That's crazy.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I think I, I think I've talked about this before too, but the. In between the series premiere and the series finale on Friends, there are scenes in the airport and the like series premiere one you like could just go and see someone off at the gate.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yep.

[Luke Lafreniere]

There's no like security. And then in the, in the finale there's like, it's, it's post 911 and there's TSA and stuff. Like they had to, they had to like do it differently. They couldn't just do a like for like parallel.

[Linus Sebastian]

I remembered when Abbotsford Airport, the, the hangar was just like effectively a barn. Like you entered one side and you could just see the other side and walk there if you wanted. I guess there was like a counter where you could get your tickets and then there was like the doors at the other side where you'd walk out to your plane and there was nothing in between and it was just like, I don't know, a building you could hang out in, I guess. And then now it's just like security everywhere and all blocked off and blah, blah, blah.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah. Hey, speaking of LinkedIn, just to go

[Linus Sebastian]

back to that, there's security now and stuff.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I. I'm pretty excited about a new feature on LinkedIn. LinkedIn has announced several anti AI slop measures, including an already released button that literally says seems like AI slop and can be used to report a post specifically for being AI generated. In a post on LinkedIn, the company's chief product officer, Hari Srinivasan Hari, wrote, AI slop is a top priority for all of us. We really care about this. Alongside a batch of new measures such as new classifiers to detect and demote AI slop, low quality posts, reducing it in suggested content, a private analytics dashboard warning when other users think your post reads as inauthentic or heavily AI generated, oh man, that would be the sickest burn. Get flagged as inauthentic, flagged as AI. But you're like, oh no.

[Linus Sebastian]

But I actually wrote that. That's honestly, you ever look at anything on LinkedIn? A lot of it should probably get flagged that way.

[Luke Lafreniere]

And replacing the enhance your post AI feature with a proofreader that fixes wording without changing a user's voice. This seems legitimate. Why is LinkedIn leading the charge?

[Linus Sebastian]

A Microsoft company.

[Luke Lafreniere]

What is happening right now?

[Linus Sebastian]

That is weird.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I don't understand this.

[Linus Sebastian]

It sounds great.

[Luke Lafreniere]

It sounds great.

[Linus Sebastian]

I don't Think it's gonna fix LinkedIn for me? I still hate LinkedIn.

[Luke Lafreniere]

LinkedIn is terrible.

[Linus Sebastian]

It's so annoying. I hate that. I've complained about this before. Like, I don't like Twitter, but it was the place that you could go to find people in the industry, and now that place seems to be LinkedIn. I know, and that sucks. I actually, like, wish Twitter would.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Twitter is a flaming garbage fire, but

[Linus Sebastian]

LinkedIn, at least it's not LinkedIn. I'm so upset that I actually, like, have to actually use.

[Luke Lafreniere]

LinkedIn is a garbage fire in a dumpster behind a Wendy's in hell. Like, it's so bad. Why do I have to go there to network.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah, it's. It's. It's genuinely very frustrating.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Catalyst has moved to Tumblr.

[Linus Sebastian]

Oh, man.

[Luke Lafreniere]

We're trying to network, not find porn.

[Linus Sebastian]

Didn't they give up? They bought it and then they were like, no more porn, and then they. Didn't they give up on that?

[Luke Lafreniere]

I'm not sure. I don't even remember.

[Linus Sebastian]

I. I can't exactly search porn.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Playus. Is Tumblr banded? Is it. Is it still banned?

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah. Did it stay. I knew they banned it, but did it stay banned?

[Luke Lafreniere]

All right. Apparent. Apparently it stayed banned. They got rid of it. All right, you got.

[Linus Sebastian]

You got to censor that.

[Luke Lafreniere]

All right, I'm heading over. I'm heading over. We're going to Tumblr right now. Let's do it.

[Linus Sebastian]

Screen sharing it? Yeah, front page will be fine.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I'm going to Tumblr. Taylor Swift. Seriously, login?

[Dan]

Sure.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Trending makes sense. Open the app. Yeah, sell me the app. Taylor Swift.

[Linus Sebastian]

Honestly, kind of makes sense. Seriously, kind of makes sense.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Okay, sure, I agree. All right, what am I looking at? What do we got here? Okay, we got Spider Man, OC Art Marvel, Rocky, the Iridian, whatever that is.

[Linus Sebastian]

That's from. That's from Hillary Mary.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Okay, got it. Shoe ad. That tracks.

[Linus Sebastian]

Oh, you're good. Oh, okay.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Things got a little weird there. Okay, what do we got?

[Linus Sebastian]

That's Rocky. We're still. Okay, okay.

[Luke Lafreniere]

We're still good. All right. Okay. Oh, and can't look at the site anymore. Well, guess what, Tumblr. I am not creating an account. Good try, though.

[Dan]

My heart rate.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah, that was. That was so

[Dan]

another four hours of overtime, bank accounts, like. Yeah, no, do it. Keep going, Linus.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Anyway, congrats, LinkedIn on your new seems like AI slot button. Hopefully it increases the quality of the content.

[Linus Sebastian]

Get a lot better. That is a step in the right direction.

[Dan]

Doesn't Tumblr have, like, the lowest worth of any of the users of any platform? Aren't they, like, negative?

[Luke Lafreniere]

What, like, you know, more users means the platform is worth less or. Where are you going with this? You know, Explain yourself.

[Dan]

Each. Each platform kind of has like a worth of a user in, like, ad revenue or anything like that. And I think every time Tumblr has been bought, they're like, oh, wait, this platform is worthless and we can't monetize it. And each user is like, worth negative $0.14. Like, we actually can't keep doing this. It's kind of like, Luke, you talk about Twitch and how it's really, really, really expensive. Well, you just can't monetize Tumblr. None of them.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Oh, wow. Past owners David Karp created and ran Tumblr Yahoo purchased for 1.1 billion before its value declined. Verizon gained ownership when it bought Yahoo and it is now owned by Automatic, the parent company of WordPress, who bought it from Verizon in August 2019.

[Linus Sebastian]

WordPress.

[Dan]

Yeah, it just keeps getting passed around and they try to fix it and they can't. It's great. Huh?

[Luke Lafreniere]

Huh.

[Linus Sebastian]

Okay, how many current users?

[Luke Lafreniere]

Automatic CEO calls Tumblr his biggest failure so far.

[Linus Sebastian]

You know what isn't the biggest failure is LTT store sucks. Let's go.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Oh, shoot. Do we even have stock? Oh, yeah.

[Dan]

Okay. Small?

[Linus Sebastian]

Medium, actually.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah, okay. Yeah, we have a little bit of stock of small and Medium across all three colors. Okay, cool. Any reviews yet? I guess people probably don't have them yet.

[Dan]

Hey,

[Luke Lafreniere]

just kind of curious. Do reviews stack between the two sites? I actually don't know this either. Okay, well, looking forward to hearing from people who are, you know, hopefully very happy with their new socks anyway. Oh, right. Floatplane announcement. Have you ever wondered what exactly it is that Colton Potter does at lmg?

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Well, now's your chance to find out. We're gonna have our bi yearly Linus Sits down with an exact series where I'm going to be sitting down with this. Okay, I read that wrong. We have a bi yearly Linus Sits down with Exec Series where I sit down with an executive and just talk about how their part of the company is going. We've done Taran, the CEO, James, head of writing. Luke did one with labs, and now it's our Chief Revenue Officer's turn. Is he an officer? I can't remember. He's head of Revenue. I forget his exact title. He's in charge of money crg. Yeah, like, but not counting IT Chief Revenue guy. We don't let him count the money, we just let him generate chief revenue generator.

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Anyway, you can drop any questions that you have under this post over on Floatplane for our. For our Chief of Revenue, Colton Potter. In Colton's words, I'm the revenue guy for LMG making sure we bring in enough revenue to keep LMG's bank account from hitting $0 by creating opportunities to make money. That is the most LinkedIn post bullshit that I've read today. Thank you for that, Chief of Revenue, Colton Potter. Anyway, you can post any questions you have and we'll be talking about it during my sit down with him. If you're more of a video type of person, we have another installment of LMG Whips where we showcase George. Oh, we got Jordan's truck. Oh, we got Jordan's truck. Luke, have you seen Jordan's truck?

[Linus Sebastian]

No.

[Luke Lafreniere]

You need to. Oh, how cool is that?

[Linus Sebastian]

That's so cute.

[Luke Lafreniere]

And he's doing some really cool stuff with it.

[Linus Sebastian]

Wait, did it come with that paint job?

[Luke Lafreniere]

No, heavens no. He. He did it. Remember how we painted my Civic? Yeah, he did it with like a roller.

[Linus Sebastian]

No way.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I'm serious.

[Linus Sebastian]

That's.

[Dan]

And it looks like he masked nothing. It's like on the wheels. Like it's got drips on it. It is so good. It's all over the frame.

[Luke Lafreniere]

This thing has so much personality.

[Linus Sebastian]

That's awesome.

[Luke Lafreniere]

So we have that and then we also have an episode of why when late an epic funny prank happened gone wrong, but not really gone wrong. Okay, I don't know what that means, but good job Sammy. This picture.

[Linus Sebastian]

I like that he's in the universe.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah, I mean he is. He is in the universe. Sammy's not wrong. Anyway, check it all out at lmg, gg, FPWAN and the WAN show is brought to you by opmanager Nexus. It's a full stack observability platform that gives you and your IT team a single clear view of your entire infrastructure. There's no need to build everything out from the beginning either. IT plugs right into the Manage Engine ecosystem with the tools your team already uses. Whether your team wants to work from the cloud, cloud on site, or with a little bit of both, opmanager Nexus is built to meet your needs. Everything can be deployed quickly and has fully customizable dashboards. This way every member of your team is presented with the reports and data that is most pertinent to them. Plus, with a global network of localized data centers, everything stays highly available because they know reliability is extremely important. They use data encryption as well as following major industry and regional regional compliance standards, so your information is both protected and audit ready. Opmanager Nexus Stop guessing and start knowing with full stack visibility. We'll have a link for you down in the video Description the show is also brought to you by Whisper Flow Voice to Text Apps and devices often face the same hiccups. Incorrect spelling of names, unnecessary recording of all those extra filler words, or just not working with the apps you use most. You know what? No, we're going to take a break from this for a second. I'm going to talk about something that's been really grinding my gears lately. I don't know whether it's an Android thing or a Google thing or a SwiftKey thing, but my voice to text on my phone cannot decide if I say question mark or if I say period or comma, if that means to put the punctuation in the fucking dictation or if it means to put the word in. And it has created some awkward situations because there's a big difference between hey, I need that done with a period at the end of it and hey, I need that done period. I really, really don't like that.

[Linus Sebastian]

Have you had awkward situations because of that? Has it gone through without you realizing?

[Luke Lafreniere]

Not for years. Okay, because it's been a problem for years and it like flip flops sometimes. It's like it falls back to like a crappier one sometimes and I don't know why. It's driving me absolutely nuts. Anyway, let's go back to talking about whisper flow. Whisper Flow wants to be so much more than the bare minimum that you've come to expect from speech to text. Dan Dan. It can record what you meant to say rather than just the literal sounds that came out of your noise hole in the front of your face. It can learn from the way you speak in real time. This is this includes the harder to spell names of your co workers, and it formats everything automatically so there's no obnoxious single walls of text in your messages. It's built to work with any app, including the big players like Gmail, Slack, or the LLM of your choice. And it doesn't matter how fast you write or type. Whisper Flow is designed to just help you work faster, which is a huge win if you're the type to get lost in thought while you're trying to write down your thoughts and ideas. Relatable. It works in all the places you do your best thinking, like on walks or commuting or even when you have those genius sour ideas. Whisper Flow is ready to record everything in mere seconds. So try your first month of Whisper Flow Pro. Totally free. We're going to have a link in the video description. All right, Luke, you want to pick one for us?

[Linus Sebastian]

You should benchmark it with the whole Vaughn Ho vs Von Home thing. Someone in chat mentioned that PK7.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Oh man, that's a throwback. Call Yvonne Ho. Calling Yvonne Home. No, no, it's one of. Ah man, it's these little things that just drive me crazy, you know? Do you know that Waze makes you press Go now twice? There's a Go now button and then when you press it, there's like a thing that you. That you let. It's. It's. It's like the most painfully long animation of all time. And then if you want to just go now, like literally. What does now mean? You have to press it again. And I'm like, I am driving a car right now. Any unnecessary interaction is an unnecessary interaction.

[Linus Sebastian]

Speaking of unnecessary interaction, Microsoft announced TPM based attestation for its key management service, the system enterprises use to activate Windows across big fleets of machines. Before a KMS server can activate anything, the TPM chip will verify its genuine Microsoft sanctioned hardware and hasn't been tampered with. Pirates have abused KMS for years by spinning up fake activation servers that trick Windows into thinking that it's licensed, including the popular online KMS method from the Mass Grave collective that's been around for a while, which pings a spoofed server every six months to keep activations alive. It becomes mandatory with the next Windows Server release and readiness notifications start hitting Windows Server 2025 in August. This is not in the notes, but I'm assuming that's because maybe they never want to support Windows Server again. Is my is my guess the crackdown may already be behind the curve because Mass Grave has released a newer method called TS Forge that targets Microsoft's DRM architecture directly and doesn't rely on KMS emulation at all. This also lands weeks after Microsoft blocked all known ways to install Windows 11 without a Microsoft account. Discussion Question Microsoft made TPM mandatory in the name of security, and now it's doing anti piracy duty. Is this a bait and switch or was this the obvious next step?

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yes.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah. Discussion Question Is Microsoft ever actually winning this fight?

[Luke Lafreniere]

I mean, for years I've thought that they weren't actually trying to win it.

[Linus Sebastian]

Me too.

[Luke Lafreniere]

But then now they seem to be trying to crack down on it. Again, and I don't really understand it. Windows is what, like 8% of their revenue now or something like that?

[Linus Sebastian]

It's a staff change thing. Maybe someone else is running this and they're like, whoa, we should stop the piracy of Windows. We should promote Linux even more. We should really push people right out the door.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah. It feels like I honestly, I welcome

[Linus Sebastian]

it with open arms. Do it more, brother. Do it more. I don't know, Give Linux more users. Yeah, Yeah, I could see that drive the adoption. Let's get more compatibility. We need some creative apps over there.

[Luke Lafreniere]

We do, though.

[Linus Sebastian]

Photo and video editing.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah, we do screen sharing.

[Linus Sebastian]

Could be a lot, A lot, a lot, a lot better.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Did I tell you?

[Linus Sebastian]

Way better.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I've started my interview series for.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah, I sent you a thing.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yes. I think. I think Vance or James is arranging interviews with. With them. But, yeah, I've only done Ludwig so far.

[Linus Sebastian]

This is published.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I have. It's. It's published.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah. He was streaming at the time.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Oh, did he do it as a clip?

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah.

[Luke Lafreniere]

No way. Yeah, yeah, of course he would.

[Linus Sebastian]

It's on Ludwin.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I think everything's content.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Okay. Well, if you guys want to watch my little interview with Ludwig about how much there it is, Windows matters to him. Holy crap. This is half a million views. It's a good title. That's crazy. This is actually like a pretty good performer for him. Right up there with whatever. This is. One of those guys, like, I just do whatever. I think I've described him. The term I use to describe him most is he is an S tier personality. He could do anything, be talking about anything, be in any room, and he would just automatically be interesting and magnetic to the people around him. He's just one of those guys that.

[Linus Sebastian]

He did a thing recently. I don't fully understand the scenario. It's called Streamer University. I don't know the details around it, to be honest. I don't really care. Yeah, this.

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Linus Sebastian]

But he taught a class on, like, how to be a streamer.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah. And he just.

[Linus Sebastian]

It's like, really good. He's like a very good teacher.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Like, straight up, just completely opening up everything that you need to know. Like, no secrets, no, like. Like, guarded, you know, proprietary knowledge. He's just like, yeah, here's what to do. Which is pretty cool.

[Dan]

Yeah,

[Linus Sebastian]

yeah. It's just like. It's. But it's impressive even how he, like, handles those classrooms and the. The people, because there is a lot of streamers that are just, you know, disturber streamers. And a bunch of them were there.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Tell me more.

[Linus Sebastian]

And so he had to control a classroom that was roughly the equivalent of like middle school or early high school in like the actions that were being taken in the class. And he does an amazing job. It's just like, what the hell?

[Dan]

I don't know.

[Linus Sebastian]

Impressive.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Anyway, I'm, I'm looking forward to, I'm looking forward to that video. So it's, it's, it's a. It's a World Without Windows is kind of the, the working title of it. And I don't know man, I. I'm still on Steam os. I still don't see the point of being on anything but Steam os.

[Linus Sebastian]

I still spend the vast majority of my time on Cashy Cache, still my favorite. It's tuned in enough at this point where I rarely have to ever even consider the fact that I'm running a different operating system. My laptop hasn't booted into anything that wasn't mint since the beginning of the Linux challenge, ever. I have a dual boot drive in there and it just has never been booted to. At this point I'm just going to wipe it and use it for storage

[Luke Lafreniere]

and by the time you boot to it, Windows is going to put up that thing and harass you about why you haven't switched to Edge yet and ask you if you like gaming or entertainment.

[Linus Sebastian]

Hour of updates or something.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yep, it's a whole bunch of reboots. It'll be great.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah, it's super annoying. So like I. It's been great but at the same time when I need to do something, photo edit, video edit, sometimes, honestly screen sharing is so not cool on Linux that if I know I'm gonna have to do a bunch of it, I'll just hop over.

[Luke Lafreniere]

That's fair.

[Linus Sebastian]

So I do, I do. I've been enjoying my dual boot and it's pretty quick. Like modern hardware is pretty quick. Booting is pretty fast. And with I have secure boot on both so I don't have to like turn secure, secure boot off or do whatever so I can flip between operating systems really fast. So I need to do something on Windows. I'll just jump over, do it and then jump back. It's like really not a huge deal.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Am I missing something or is this the most viewers we've had on WAN show in like months?

[Linus Sebastian]

The Minecraft Gang.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Is it the title?

[Linus Sebastian]

The Minecraft Gang came through, dude. Should we talk about Minecraft more?

[Luke Lafreniere]

Is that what happened?

[Linus Sebastian]

Minecraft. Let's play on WAN Show. I'm Down.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I'm so confused.

[Linus Sebastian]

Let's do it.

[Luke Lafreniere]

When did I, did I talk about playing Mecha Chameleon on Wednesday yet?

[Linus Sebastian]

Very shortly, I think.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Did I, I thought I played it this week. Are you sure?

[Linus Sebastian]

Maybe you just talk to me. Oh, sometimes honestly, it's hard to differentiate conversations we've had in person versus conversations we have on Wayne.

[Luke Lafreniere]

That's true. Anyway, it was really fun. We did, we did a family game night. So we, we actually, we actually played it. Maybe I talked about buying it.

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Luke Lafreniere]

And it's like six Canadian dollars per license and we did a family game night and it was like such a blast. I, I, I think I am very now turned on to this whole, like, friend slop as a family game night thing we've done in the last month. We've done like a golf with your friends, great family game night, and we've done a Mecha Chameleon family game night. And the problem that we've had, because obviously that was like the vision the whole time, right? Like, we built that LAN area in the, in the basement of our house. Like this was like the plan. So you're probably watching this going like, sorry, Linus. You're only like, just figuring this out. It's like we've, we've done some stuff. Like my kids and I played a lot of Minecraft dungeons, but it was four players. Like a lot of things are not designed for five players. It's a super weird number. The world is made for four. And so we've, and what's ended up happening is there's been other games where I've intended for us to play them all together, but then the kids run off and get like, really good at it or, you know, it's really hard for the relatively non, like, Twitch gamery people to keep up with.

[Linus Sebastian]

Mecha Chameleon is a great game for that reason.

[Luke Lafreniere]

It is probably the best family game that we have played so far because you don't need to be able to, you know, play 3D chess in terms of your strategy.

[Linus Sebastian]

It's not a Twitch shooter.

[Luke Lafreniere]

You don't have to have great reflexes. It actually my girls are far more artistically inclined than my boy. And so all of a sudden he found himself in a situation where the girls were actually very competitive at a game with him. And because none of us had played it yet, and they like my son, like, heard about it at school and had like, he installed it and was like, so like, can I play it? I'm like, no, no, wait. We're all gonna play it together. We're all gonna experience it for the first time together. It was super fun. They're already asking, like, hey, when are we gonna have, like, Mecha Chameleon night? My son actually was supposed to have a friend over that night. It was, like, on Monday or Sunday or something like that. And I was like, okay, well, maybe we can. Maybe we can play Mecha Chameleon together later in the week. And he looks at his calendar. He's like, well, the first time I'm gonna be able to do that is Thursday. Okay. I'm gonna tell my friend he can't come over. And I'm like, no, no, no, no, no. You don't have to do that. Like, I'm not. I'm not looking to interfere with your social life. Like, family time's important, but kids building their own social circle is also really important. He's like, it's done already. I'm like, all right. So, like, he really wanted to play the game. So finding something, dude. And any of the parents know this, finding something that everyone wants to do to the point where they. They will willingly actively carve out family time is like, it's the holy freaking grail. Like, it doesn't exist.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah.

[Luke Lafreniere]

And Mecha Chameleon turns out to have been it, and so sounds like a wicked game. So if we can keep Mecha Chameleon, you know, sacred to family game night, only then nobody will go and Luke on, you know, Mario Kart ate it. And just like, poor girl. Yeah.

[Dan]

That poor child.

[Linus Sebastian]

I had. This story keeps haunting me. I had to explain this story very recently because someone asked me about it. I was like, what the heck?

[Luke Lafreniere]

Why did you. Why did you abuse that small child in Mario Kart?

[Dan]

Traumatized on stage in front of thousands of people.

[Linus Sebastian]

That's not true. It's not true.

[Luke Lafreniere]

And there was no prize money or anything. He just did it. He destroyed that poor girl for sport.

[Dan]

To make a child cry. Oh, you want some candy?

[Linus Sebastian]

No.

[Dan]

And then you eat it all.

[Linus Sebastian]

Okay.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Anyway, family game night, absolute blast.

[Linus Sebastian]

Not what happened.

[Luke Lafreniere]

It's not what happened, but it is kind of what happened.

[Linus Sebastian]

No, no.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Did the child end up destroyed?

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Was it by your hand?

[Linus Sebastian]

I could argue no.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Who's. Who had the controller?

[Linus Sebastian]

I did.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Right, okay.

[Linus Sebastian]

But it wasn't the controller that did the action in the game.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Right.

[Linus Sebastian]

So Mario Kart 8 Deluxe. Yeah. This is the launch. This is a launch.

[Dan]

Oh, no. He's defending himself now.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. This is the launch event for the Switch. We're up on stage. Oh, my goodness. Hello. This feels so formal. We're up on stage checking it out. I'm talking about to one of the Nintendo people that I'm on the far side of the stage from the Switch. The Switch was not in the middle of the stage, and I was having input issues. And I was like, dude, I think your. Your new console here doesn't have that great of range with the joy cons. And he's got the mic, and he's trying to roast me and say, oh, you're just trying to, like, pre set up excuses for why you're gonna. You're gonna lose. And I was like, no, I've played a lot of Mario Kart 8. I'm gonna win. But, like, your. Your controllers are having issues on this side of the stage. This kind of sucks. Can we move closer or something? He's like, no, no, no, no, no. So then I'm like, okay, this guy's calling me out, like, hard on stage. So I'm gonna try to do really well. But my plan was to basically win the race, get to the end, right before the end, slam myself into the wall, wait for this little girl to go over the finish line, and then go over just to, like, prove that I could, but not actually do it. And then I get to the end of the case, the race, slam myself into the wall. Mario Kart 8 Deluxe. Not Mario Kart 8, but Mario Kart 8 Deluxe has a feature that is like training wheels or whatever, and it'll. It'll keep you going in the direction you're supposed to. And it drags me sliding across the wall, over the finish line and forced me to win the race.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Forced him. Forced him. He didn't want to. He didn't want to crush that poor little girl.

[Linus Sebastian]

So many people there were like, wait, why would you do that? And I was like, I did it. I didn't want to. I had no idea. It was like a feature in the game was involuntary.

[Luke Lafreniere]

He just. He can't help crushing children.

[Linus Sebastian]

I was, like, continually staring into the wall and trying to break, and it's just sliding me against the wall.

[Luke Lafreniere]

But the one that ended up getting breaked was the poor child. She's still broken to this day, I heard.

[Linus Sebastian]

And her mom, I. Her mom was, like, a Nintendo employee, and it was like, she was, like, actually upset with me, and I was like, I really didn't want to do that. I'm sorry.

[Luke Lafreniere]

But that. That guy on the stage, he just. He made me so angry, and I had to Find someone to take out my rage on him. Why not the nearest child?

[Linus Sebastian]

Oh man, I was like actually rattled for the rest of the event.

[Luke Lafreniere]

It's so funny. Which is why. Which is why Dan and I love bringing up this story so much.

[Linus Sebastian]

Oh man.

[Dan]

Embellishing it is even better because then you get all upset and I have to explain it again and we just like hear again.

[Luke Lafreniere]

He goes the Luke version of red.

[Linus Sebastian]

What is the Luke version of red?

[Luke Lafreniere]

He's kind of pale, but a little bit red.

[Linus Sebastian]

Oh my God.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Ooh. Speaking of red on faces I have brought up already, I think with you that people keep creating conspiracy theories that the Steam frame must be coming out soon because I have marks on my face. But actually what I had was a zit on my nose that was kind of red.

[Linus Sebastian]

I thought it was like here.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I think I had one there too.

[Linus Sebastian]

Oh, okay.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah, over the last little while I've just had like a couple breakouts and so it has created this breakout from

[Linus Sebastian]

wearing a VR headset.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Sure, let's go with that. Anyway, maybe I still don't know anything, which means that I can still talk about rumors and according to, I guess, Notebook, check. Valve's Steam Frame VR headset is getting closer to launch after receiving FCC certification, a sign that the hardware is moving through the final stages toward release. It is expected to arrive in 2026 and folks have been watching very, very closely. But Valve still hasn't announced an official release date or a price. Our discussion question here is what would a successful launch of the Steam frame mean for the future of VR gaming?

[Linus Sebastian]

Maybe it would be less dead, less cables.

[Luke Lafreniere]

You're welcome. I don't think it's gonna. Oh, I shouldn't say. I don't think it's gonna meaningfully change. It's not gonna meaningfully change the way that. No, you know what, I disagree with myself.

[Linus Sebastian]

Ten seconds ago you never said anything.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah, but I was thinking it. Okay, big changes. Big, big changes.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Because this is the first do it all device. And yes, I'm aware that the Quest 3 can do wireless and I'm aware that the Index can, you know, have a wireless third party interface on it for PC Fidelity Gaming. I'm aware that there's a lot of things that do most of what the Steam frame is going to do, but I don't think there's anything that is going to be the all rounder that the Steam frame I expect to be. So being able to play standalone games, being able to stream games to. To the big screen, being able to play high fidelity games over a high speed wireless link locally. I wish the displays were better.

[Linus Sebastian]

Isn't Beat Saber not gonna work on it or something?

[Luke Lafreniere]

Who said that? I haven't heard anything like that.

[Linus Sebastian]

Steam Frame in the Beat Saber situation, Steam Frame will pretty much certainly be able to run steep beats over natively. Oh, why does the same version of Beat Saber no longer work? Well, I don't know if this thread is like actually the one that I'm trying to better. Complete jerks and they hold Beat Saber hostage.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Oh, right. Meta owns it.

[Linus Sebastian]

Oh, so that's the problem. I didn't really dive into this. I'm going to try to find a better.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Oh, so it just won't run natively on it, but if I have it on my PC, then I can still play it?

[Linus Sebastian]

I guess so.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Oh, that's still kind of annoying.

[Linus Sebastian]

I don't. I don't actually really know.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Hold on. Am I over this or not? I'm thinking about it because man has.

[Linus Sebastian]

Every website we've gone to today had an LTT Store ad.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Because the way that I think that I'm going to use the Steam frame far more than my previous VR headsets is that I want to be able to take it with me when I travel. Oh, yeah. Category unsupported.

[Dan]

All right.

[Luke Lafreniere]

And I think I could still take it with me when I travel and play Beat Saber streamed from my laptop because all I need is the wireless dongle. And the wireless dongle is a reasonable size. It's not like one of those big like. Yeah, I'm 6 gigahertz and I have this like giant antenna and it's directional and whatever. Like it's actually. It's pretty small.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah, no, no. Key linked me actually directly to it. So. Yeah. This game's graphic settings cannot be configured well to run on a Steam frame.

[Dan]

Weird.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Okay. Conrad's piping up. He says our ROAS is excellent, by the way. I forget what that stands for. It's some business thing. It's return on ad spend.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Okay. Thank you, Conrad. Keep. Keep up the good work, Conrad. People need to see all of the. All of the LTT Store ads.

[Linus Sebastian]

I don't know if he does that. I don't think he does that.

[Luke Lafreniere]

No, I know.

[Linus Sebastian]

Okay.

[Luke Lafreniere]

But when they click the ad, they're going to go to a site true. That he works on.

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Hell yeah. That's right. That's right. That's how. That's how it goes. Conrad gave a thumbs up.

[Dan]

So.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah, I'm very excited for the steam frame. No, I'm not wearing it yet. No, I don't know anything yet. As soon as I know anything, you'll hear nothing from me. Yeah, that's how you'll know.

[Linus Sebastian]

That is a bit of an indicator.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Mm. Yeah, I'll stop talking about the steam frame completely when I am enjoying it.

[Linus Sebastian]

So the news next week will be that Linus didn't talk about the steam frame on WAN show next week.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I should not talk about it next week.

[Linus Sebastian]

Which would mean that Linus now knows something about it.

[Luke Lafreniere]

That'd be so funny.

[Linus Sebastian]

And therefore it's coming soon.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I should. I should do it just to mess with them. Once a troll, always a troll. What can I say? California wants to ban 3D printers that can't detect when a gun is being printed. This is California's Firearm Printer Protection Act. That pro that proposes prohibiting all 3D printers in the state from sale or transfer unless they are equipped with a certified firearm blueprint detection algorithm by December 1, 2029. There's a lot of notes on this, but I'm going to go ahead and digress for a second here and go what the actual certified is a certified firearm blueprint detection algorithm. Does said algorithm exist?

[Linus Sebastian]

Can you print Warhammer models? If you have that algorithm, are you allowed to.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Are you allowed to create a law that says that unless it has a hyperdrive, you're not allowed to sell a DeLorean? Like, what are we talking about here?

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah, I mean, we've also talked about this in the past. I think it was with New York or something where our argument is like, I mean, you can just drive them over the border. I think that argument is a little bit tougher for California, but still absolutely a thing.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Well, let's talk about how they think it should work. So the bill hinges on functional geometric search, which is described as the ability to search 3D models by their shape. A representative from Fizna, the developer of a geometric search tool, claimed that geometric search is a mature technology deployed at scale.

[Linus Sebastian]

Ah, nice. Fizna recently announced a strategic partnership with palantir to revolutionize 3D data analysis for defense and commercial sectors.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Meanwhile, Marlene Vogelaar, CEO of 3D model repository Thangs, stated that they had tried to implement geometric search, notably FIZNAS specifically, and had removed it as it was not useful for our community. Okay. There is an exception for machines manufactured specifically for printing props, so they'll allow you. So, okay, so they're going to use geometric search to tell if it looks like a gun, but it's Totally fine for it to look like a gun as long as it's a machine. That's for printing a prop. But if, I mean, like, riddle me this, Luke. When Shinzo Abe was assassinated, what did his gun look like? Would a geometric search have brought that up?

[Linus Sebastian]

No, it wouldn't have. It was a, it was a plank of wood with some pipes on it. Yeah. And all duct taped together.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I mean, that's kind of gun looking actually, now that I look at.

[Linus Sebastian]

No, but you've printed in different sections. Like, so those are just metal pipes. The, the, the, the, the one thing is just literally a board. The handle is just a handle for anything.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah, I feel like we're, I feel like we're losing the plot a little bit here.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah, I think a lot of people overestimate how hard it is to make a thing that makes things go bang.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I mean, literally, they were manufactured hundreds of years ago by just like Smiths. Like, literally. If you know someone named Smith, there is a non zero chance that they were involved in the manufacture of weapons at some point. Their family.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah, that's probably pretty high.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Like actually though. Yeah, like literally. Literally Joe Smith. Okay. Any Joe Smith could, could come from a, from a heritage of weapons makers. Okay. Like, I, I like, like I look as, as a Canadian, I'm probably a little, a little less woo firearms than, you know, some of our American viewers watching this might be just. Culturally, it turns out we actually do have some differences. However, it is pretty clear to me that you are simply. One does not simply legislate that people cannot make a tube with a firing pin and a hammer and a like, you know, rifling in the inside of it and a piece of wood attached to like, what are we even talking about?

[Linus Sebastian]

You'd even need rifling for a shotgun.

[Luke Lafreniere]

This is true.

[Linus Sebastian]

And I'm pretty sure his was shotgun the Abbey Assassin.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Literally.

[Linus Sebastian]

Literally.

[Luke Lafreniere]

It's literally a metal tube. Like, like, are we going to outlaw Home Depot? Because people get lost in there for hours. Like, if you want to talk about outlawing Home Depot, I'm open to the conversation. The amount of human life that has been lost to wandering the aisles of Home Depot may actually be close to the amount of human life lost to firearms. Obviously, I'm joking. Clearly a joke. But the point of the joke is just to illustrate how silly this whole sort of argument is that we should ban something that can print a shape that can ultimately be turned into a firearm.

[Linus Sebastian]

Someone named Kirkland's signature in all caps in full plane chat said, I can build a firearm right now in the next four hours from the hardware store. You can probably do it in less time than that.

[Luke Lafreniere]

That probably includes driving to and from the hardware store, reading a book about how to make a firearm from the hardware store. And to be clear and making the

[Linus Sebastian]

firearm neither of us are promoting. Hey, you should go 3D print a firearm right now. No, it's just the writing down on that will cleave a lot of cool things and in my opinion is going to solve nothing. And this is, this, this is the same thing. We talked about it last time. You're not going to stop people who actually want to do this. First of all, you can just drive them over the border because it's not the entire states that are doing that. And then secondly, it even notes it in here. These algorithms are not going to be able to catch at all with the ways that you can do removals of different things in 3D printing. You could tie in parts of the parts that you actually 3D print when you're 3D printing a firearm, because not

[Luke Lafreniere]

all of it is 3D printed. That's a really good point.

[Linus Sebastian]

And you can just tie them into other structures and then just break them after you've printed it. And then you still have it. You will not stop that. I can guarantee you will not stop that. So there it's. What are you actually accomplishing? Practically nothing. So it's just, it's just, it's just annoying for people. It's just tying companies like palantir into 3D printer sales, which is like, can we not. It's, it's just, I don't know, it's, it's a waste of time and energy and it's just completely going to be ineffective. So I don't know.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Notably, 3D printing firearms is already illegal in California. So basically we're just trying to, I don't know, maybe, maybe the. Maybe where it's coming from is they're looking at how, I guess somewhat successful building printer firmware that prevents it from printing money. Printing counterfeit money was like, I remember being in high school and I had, I had a friend in high school who printed like $5 Canadian bills and had some success passing them off as real ones just because he was, he was one of the first ones to get like a high fidelity color printer back when they didn't have those safeguards

[Linus Sebastian]

in them wasn't super common.

[Luke Lafreniere]

So, so they're, maybe they're looking at how those safeguards, I think, you know, at least prevented random grade 9 grade 8 kids from printing these things and they're trying to replicate that success across firearms. And it's like, I can kind of see the logical thread that connects those two things. But, man, this is a way more complex problem to try to solve that literally, I don't think can be solved. Like float plane chat is going with all the ways that people could just get around this. Like just print some big thing endless. Like you, you. You brought up. Print some big thing and break it away. Or the opposite of that, print many small things and glue them all together. Because it would have no way of knowing what you're going to do with a given hunk of plastic. And I understand it like, there's some people in the chat that are like, well, there's so many school shootings, we have to do something. It's like, yeah, but what percentage of school shootings are actually with 3D printed weapons? The problem is that people can get like, weapons of mass killing regardless. Like, it's not 3D printed guns. It seems, it seems like.

[Dan]

What's the.

[Luke Lafreniere]

What's the. What's the term? Not red herring, but just that, like a distraction. What's the.

[Linus Sebastian]

Isn't that red herring?

[Dan]

Sort of.

[Luke Lafreniere]

It's in a different context.

[Linus Sebastian]

It stands out, I guess. I'm not sure, but I know what you're trying to say.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah, somebody. Somebody tell me, tell me what it's called. Straw Man. Yeah, Straw man. That's the one.

[Linus Sebastian]

Raiden 428 in full plane Chat said, not sure this law is intended to actually work. It's for politicians to say they have done something. And I think that's one of the reasons why we're kind of frustrated about it. Yeah, it's like, it's. It's like a. A political signaling tactic which is just garbage and can be really annoying for people. And again, involve things like Palantir in stuff that makes even less sense than normal.

[Luke Lafreniere]

What if we had no palantir in our 3D printers? I propose a bill that there's no palantir in 3D printers.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah, that'd be awesome. That sounds great. It's just political crap. It's.

[Luke Lafreniere]

If you ran for office, I'd vote for you. I'm serious.

[Linus Sebastian]

I don't think I'd last very long.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Well, I'd vote for you. That's all I'm saying.

[Linus Sebastian]

Thanks, man.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Because I think you wouldn't be down for political crap.

[Linus Sebastian]

I appreciate that, but I'd call it that. And in Canada, that doesn't go super well. People get really upset.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I don't know. Do they anymore? I'm not sure.

[Linus Sebastian]

How far away from Elbow Gate are we?

[Luke Lafreniere]

I think we're pretty far from Elbow Gate.

[Dan]

I think.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I think that

[Linus Sebastian]

if you want to have a fun dive into Canadian politics, that was like an actual thing that people actually cared about was Elbow Gate. And you think about like American things that have gate on the end of it and are involved with politics. And then you. Then you look at Elbow Gate and you're like, oh, this is why a lot of Canadians pay more attention to American politics, because the show is more fun and entertaining to watch.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Sorry, there's.

[Linus Sebastian]

Honestly, living here. Sounds great. If that's like the peak of, of some of the craziness, which, I mean, it isn't anymore, but if it was, that would be. That would have been awesome. I, I'm. I'm kind of down with the boring sometimes.

[Luke Lafreniere]

There's a. I'm just trying to find. I'm trying to find a written transcript of it, but there's like Mark Carney has actually been kind of a troll a couple at least a few times. And he's seems like he's got enough charisma that he's mostly gotten away with it. So this is, this is the one that I was thinking of. So he, like someone, someone made a comment about how Mr. Polly I ever once said about Mark Carney that he's badly educated on economics or something like that. And Carney's like, well, I take back the positive thing I said about him. It was like, really funny. It's the kind of thing that in Canadian politics, I feel like there was a time when you probably wouldn't have gotten away with that. Definitely not during Elbow Gate. Yeah, but he definitely got away with it. But it was also really funny.

[Linus Sebastian]

Hopefully you can rewrite that stuff. The bailing out developers and whatnot path he was on for a little bit was not fun.

[Luke Lafreniere]

No, Dan, I won't. Instead, I want to talk about this.

[Linus Sebastian]

What's this?

[Luke Lafreniere]

A San Francisco Bay area landlord has sparked online debate due to their plan to charge potential tenants an extra $200 per month if they're going to work from home in the rental property. The 535 square foot cottage was listed with a base rent of 3,250amonth. First of all. Oh my God. With utilities and Internet included. Oh, well, that's why the base rent is already pretty high, as far as we can tell for the neighborhood, where averages are 2457amonth and around 700 square feet. On top of that, if the plan is for the person to work from home, they wanted to charge an extra $200. Some folks online are calling the fee insane and absurd and a way to squeeze out additional money, while others were more sympathetic to the landlord, arguing that work from home could increase the use of utilities. So our discussion question here is, what the dilio? What's your take on this?

[Linus Sebastian]

I mean, it's interesting because, like, up here, if I believe it's fairly common that if you start, let's say you're single and you're renting and then you start living with someone, your rent will often go up. And the reason why your rent will go up is often usage of utilities and whatnot.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah. If utilities are included in the rent, then if more cases, more cost aren't

[Linus Sebastian]

included, then this would just happen naturally because you would just be using more utilities because you're at home more, so your cost would just go up.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Do you think there's any justification? Because one of the other logics that

[Linus Sebastian]

I saw, 200 bucks a month seems like a lot.

[Luke Lafreniere]

It does seem like a lot. There's $2,400 a year.

[Linus Sebastian]

I don't know what their power costs.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Like, is this just the landlord going, okay, well, clearly you are not, you know, your fuel that you're saving by not commuting to and from the office means you have more money. I just want some of it. Like, do you think it's that simple?

[Linus Sebastian]

But this is California, right? What is their power? Does that actually just like, oh, power is expensive. Is it?

[Dan]

Is.

[Linus Sebastian]

Would it be that much? 200 bucks a month to run a computer and maybe some lights and whatever else. It seems really high, really high for up here. But I don't. I don't know.

[Luke Lafreniere]

People in chat are saying, yeah, yeah, it would like 200amonth. Is. Is like. Oh, wait. People are saying not at all. But other people are saying yes. No. Definitely speaking from experience. Yes.

[Linus Sebastian]

Crystals. Canadian.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Oh, yeah. Crystal sh.

[Linus Sebastian]

H. Power jumps between 25 cents to 50 cents. Wow.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Really? Per kilowatt hour. Wow. Or is it some, like, weird Yankee unit?

[Linus Sebastian]

Half that is Internet.

[Luke Lafreniere]

But I know you guys use kilowatt hours.

[Dan]

I'm just kidding.

[Linus Sebastian]

Half that is Internet. Doesn't make any sense because Internet's a fixed fee per month.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah. So that one should. That one shouldn't matter. Yeah.

[Dan]

What are you talking about?

[Luke Lafreniere]

No, Crystal's not. Crystal's not Canadian.

[Linus Sebastian]

What is she not?

[Luke Lafreniere]

I don't think so.

[Linus Sebastian]

Am I tripping?

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah, my Bad.

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Way to go, Luke. Sorry, honorary Canadian. There you go. Yeah, we turned that frown upside down now. Okay, so. So one of the other logics that I've seen for this justifying the landlord's action is that almost anything costs more for commercial use, whether you're renting a tool. Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. Give me a sec. I'm going somewhere with this.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah.

[Luke Lafreniere]

So there's a couple things that, from my experience, do make business use more demanding on anything. People tend not to treat things that they don't own very carefully. And I see this anytime I walk around in our warehouse, I see this firsthand. Company property does not get. I will watch someone baby their personal Steam Deck and then just like, huck their work laptop that is worth many times what the Steam deck is because it's just not theirs. And I've kind of. I've kind of made my peace with it at this point. But it doesn't change that it is a fact that people do not treat corporate stuff the same way that they do their own stuff. Now, that would be true of any rental property. But I guess the argument here is that if you're using it way more, there could be more wear and tear just in general on the place because you're in there a lot more. And, you know, opening things and closing things and using things a lot more. Do you think there's an argument there at all? Because it's. That's just one of the other sort of lines of reasoning that I saw. Oh, right, sorry. And then the other part of it is, like anything commercial does tend to get an upcharge on it because it is being used to make money. And also it does tend to get used more. Like my drill at home, my personal drill gets used very little because it's used by one person in the very limited time of day that he is not at work and actually has the wherewithal to work on a project. Whereas the drill that we have in the workshop over there is far more likely to be used every day because it's spread across 50 people who might need to use it. And actually we spend more hours a day of our waking hours at work than we do at home and not also eating or sleeping or whatever else. So do you think there's any logic there?

[Linus Sebastian]

I mean, I think there's inherent logic in, like, things for companies cost more and yada, yada, yada, also that increased usage costs increase, where I honestly think if this person is Honestly, working from

[Dan]

home,

[Linus Sebastian]

the increased usage of the space isn't really that much. You're sitting at your desk the whole time.

[Luke Lafreniere]

That's where I was gonna kind of come at it from next. Are you really using it that much more if you're sitting at a desk?

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah, it's like, like theoretically you're just kind of sitting there and like, yeah, sure, you can make an argue that like the weight of the wheels and your feet and whatnot is like a little bit. But realistically I think that's very small compared to just occupying the space and denying other people entry to the space, which is what you're realistically paying for.

[Luke Lafreniere]

You might be running the H Vac more that that is.

[Linus Sebastian]

That comes. That again, comes down to like mostly power, most maintenance, but also.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Definitely also maintenance. I mean, you've seen how often they break down around here.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah, line, dude.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Like often. So depending on whether that's something that's included is part of it. And we don't know that. I haven't actually looked at the listing.

[Linus Sebastian]

The power thing though. Like, I don't. I don't remember the various agreements that I paid over time. I think usually power was not included, but this was also pre work from home, pre Crypto mining at home, pre. Lots of those types of things.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Struggi asks, do y' all not do security deposits for rentals? This argument makes no sense.

[Linus Sebastian]

It still makes sense.

[Luke Lafreniere]

It's complicated, right? Like, security deposits do exist up here, but on both sides. I feel like there is a lot of asshole that. That takes place around security deposits. So I would not consider from either side. I would. As a renter, I would not consider getting my security deposit back to be a guarantee. And as a landlord, I would not consider getting the security deposit to cover renter damage to be a guarantee. I. I've seen so many horror stories both ways around security deposit.

[Linus Sebastian]

I've seen the security deposit be way less than the renter damage. I've also seen people who leave places just immaculate have land owners try to take their whole deposit.

[Luke Lafreniere]

It's just like, bro, yeah, what do you do? I've seen horror stories both ways and it's so much work and so much expense and so much time to rectify it with a jerk on either other side of the. Of the transaction that I still think it's a valuable conversation. That's what we're trying to say.

[Linus Sebastian]

So someone in chat. I lost your name. Sorry. Someone in chat linked this and so this is the power.

[Luke Lafreniere]

That's a weird username I actually kind of like it. I lost your name. Sorry.

[Linus Sebastian]

That is pretty good. I don't know. Yeah.

[Dan]

Whoa.

[Linus Sebastian]

But this is. This is theoretically the power company for the area. They're talking about their price hikes.

[Dan]

Damn, dude.

[Luke Lafreniere]

You know what they should do is they should build more data centers.

[Linus Sebastian]

So from 2020 to 2025, it's had a 64% increase six times versus inflation and stuff. So power there's might be really brutal.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Here's what I'm trying to figure out. How exactly do we calculate inflation? Because I feel like every single time I look at this number, everything in my life is way higher than it.

[Linus Sebastian]

They also don't agree. Well, yeah. And the places that measure it also don't agree. I was trying to figure this out a few years back and found that, like, even at the government level, different parts of government don't agree with it's.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I was reading a really interesting article about the. One of the teams that is tasked with measuring inflation, getting their budget and staffing dramatically cut as part of the DOGE thing. So instead of going and actually being able to check in person, I think it was groceries. They had to rely on way more limited data from, like, online reporting that is not like. That they know is not accurate.

[Linus Sebastian]

And so didn't this happen to, like, job losses, job market stuff as well? They let off the team that checked out, like, new jobs versus lost jobs and they couldn't accurately measure it.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I think it was the head of that report that got terminated for fluctuation in the report, which, by the way, is a totally normal thing because there's always corrections. But it got corrected in a way that made people unhappy and, yeah, they lost their job.

[Linus Sebastian]

Okay.

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Luke Lafreniere]

So there's been. There's been lots of interesting stuff happening. It's been a. We live in very interesting times. It's been an especially interesting couple of years. As someone who, you know, likes to read, there's been a lot to read about. That's about the only positive spin I think I can put on it.

[Linus Sebastian]

There has been a lot to read.

[Luke Lafreniere]

There's been a lot to read about.

[Linus Sebastian]

I go through. I do this with my news consumption. I'm currently in a low.

[Luke Lafreniere]

A good place to be.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah. And then I'll get curious about what's going on in the world and I'm like, oh, my God. And then, oh, you should all be worried about this and be talking about his stuff. And then I go, oh, yeah, that doesn't really, really change anything.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I don't think I ever talked about this on Wednesday show, but remember our trip to New York?

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Luke Lafreniere]

We went there for Fallon and I was just marveling as we were sitting there eating cheesecake, how normal everything felt.

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Because when you're insulated from, you know, whatever's going on, it's easy to. For things to just feel really normal. Anyway.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah, I'll resist going back to reading. And to be clear, I'm not like completely disconnected from the news. I just, you know, the biggest part of it actually has been just removing Google News from my phone.

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Linus Sebastian]

I don't instinctively swipe over there anymore.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Wicked smart.

[Linus Sebastian]

And then, yeah, stuff still shows up. I get links from, from friends or whatever. I'm still in tune with a few things, but it's just not as like constantly feeding terrible things into my brain anymore. Which is, which is good.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Unique Username asks I don't understand what wasn't normal with the cheesecake. The cheesecake was perfectly normal, actually, maybe even good. But more just like the contrast between reading your phone and how many terrible things are happening around the world and how much more bombs are dropping, freaking out about them. And how if we just don't look at that and we just go out for dinner and eat some nice cheesecake, we don't actually, like, we don't actually interface with it. And how if you, if you live in a news bubble, you can be completely doomer. Everything is falling apart. Like, like you can, you can overcorrect. And if you completely live in a bubble of I you know what, I don't want to know anything about any of that. You can completely think everything is fine, even if things are actually not really very fine. And just how, how much contrast there is between news addicts and people who don't look at it at all. I guess was just the thought that I had. It was just an interesting thought. You know what else is interesting? Windows 11 users are getting a surprise new photo app. Microsoft's at it again with the new OneDrive Photos app. They install it without any notice prompts or permissions. It's not clear if it's snuck in via Windows Update or an update for OneDrive. Jordan puts note it's on my work machine, but doesn't appear to be on Elijah's. And the app appears as a separate executable in the OneDrive program folder and cannot be removed separately from OneDrive. OneDrive Photos doesn't require a Microsoft account to run, but. But functionality is limited to displaying your local images for sorting or editing. If you do Sign in, the app becomes a full OneDrive gallery and you gain access to AI powered cloud search, which like Windows Recall, can use OCR to read visible text in photos, much like the. In order to find relevant results. That's fascinating. OneDrive Photos automatically scans your system storage for photos and if you grant permission, can group similar faces that it finds in your photos. Microsoft claims the data isn't shared and that you only. And that only you can see the grouped faces. But Microsoft claims a lot of things that aren't actually true about his AI tools. So take that with as much salt as you can get your hands on. If you want to remove OneDrive photos, you will need to entirely remove OneDrive by going to Settings installed apps here, I'll show you guys how to do it right now.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah, sweet.

[Luke Lafreniere]

How to remove programs, you know, to Microsoft's. Oh, apparently I have already removed OneDrive. Well, you'll find it there.

[Linus Sebastian]

Dan probably did that when he was setting our system.

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Luke Lafreniere]

To Microsoft's credit union. You can remove almost everything now. Like you can remove the camera app, which is nice. I wish they wouldn't keep reinstalling things, but hey, this is. This does still feel like progress compared to some points and. Well, all right.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah. Except if you're like a OneDrive subscriber because they shoved it down your throat 37 trillion times now you can't get rid of AI searching your photos.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah,

[Linus Sebastian]

Sorry, but I just, I can't. I can't quite give them that one.

[Luke Lafreniere]

No, I was trying really hard.

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah. Which is valid. We should try to win. Companies do cool stuff. We should try to.

[Luke Lafreniere]

It's just, it's become kind of a trick tradition for there to be some legitimately cool Microsoft news every week. And this week we just. Because I only read the headline, I had selected that one as my good

[Dan]

news,

[Luke Lafreniere]

but as I went through it, I was reading the topic, I was like, oh, this sucks. Yeah, okay.

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Luke Lafreniere]

But maybe it sucks a little less than some things have ever sucked. Which is.

[Linus Sebastian]

Speaking of things that would suck.

[Dan]

So.

[Luke Lafreniere]

It's a broken vacuum cleaner. Micro suck. Just a little suck.

[Linus Sebastian]

Micro suck. The world's smallest.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Hey, when you're me, everything's a micro suck. Know what I'm saying? Oh, minus.

[Linus Sebastian]

Poor little minus.

[Luke Lafreniere]

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[Linus Sebastian]

By the way, we got an account.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Sorry, what's that?

[Dan]

We have an AHREF account.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Oh, do we?

[Dan]

Okay, we're trialing it out.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Oh, very cool.

[Linus Sebastian]

Exciting, light fury and full plane chat said when I mentioned my like some people are getting screwed because they use OneDrive now they would have to uninstall OneDrive blah blah blah. They said eg my fiance who can't use their university OneDrive for their PhD because ethics approach approval is only for university managed systems.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Oh wow.

[Linus Sebastian]

It's kind of weird.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah.

[Linus Sebastian]

And a lot of. I'm assuming if they're doing processing and whatnot.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah.

[Linus Sebastian]

Off site that Microsoft would be pretty good about doing their like in country thing. One of the big reasons reasons why a lot of schools and whatnot use teams is because a lot of schools have rules where all of the data can't leave the country.

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Linus Sebastian]

So if you use an outside service, it has to be hosted within the country. So Microsoft can do things where your teams will only ever call out to Microsoft servers that are in Canada. For example, if you're a Canadian university. But I guess we don't know about this system. Yeah, I'm not sure.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I didn't think about that.

[Linus Sebastian]

It gets really tricky when it can look through all your pictures.

[Dan]

Well, yeah.

[Linus Sebastian]

What do you have pictures of? In a lot of scenarios you have pictures of stuff that you can't necessarily have getting randomly searched by Microsoft's AI EJC 1090 also said same with GovCloud stuff. Yeah.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I have some cool pictures. Do you want to see them?

[Dan]

Sure.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I'm going to send them to Dan here. Hold on. This will take a second. Why don't you do a quick topic?

[Linus Sebastian]

Sure. Missing underscore in an innocent. Let's go here. We're going to skip the title. I got to get used to doing that. A tiny typo turned into a nightmare when Wisconsin police hunting for a Kik messenger user named foos underscore underscore ro underscore duh. 2 underscores is the key point there. Accidentally obtained the records for a different user. Foos_ row_da1_ leading them to the wrong person. Halifax area man named Brandon claim in a CSAM investigation. Not something you want to get wrongfully Tied up in Claim was convicted and spent eight actually did it. Oh my God. Claim was convicted and spent 18 months in prison despite investigators finding no evidence linking him to the crimes.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Crazy.

[Linus Sebastian]

The username mix up wasn't discovered until Claim was preparing to appeal his claim conviction. The conviction was eventually overturned and the court found Claim factually innocent. The appeal board declared he should never have been charged, let alone convicted. Oh, and you spend a year and a half in jail, that's enough to wreck your life.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah.

[Linus Sebastian]

Like hard relationships potentially over.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yep.

[Linus Sebastian]

Job very likely not able to be gone back to. Wow.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Oh, are they not? Oh, wait, hold on. Two, three and four are fine. And then. Hold on, hold on. Let me do something real quick here.

[Linus Sebastian]

Goodness. I'll go through some discussion questions while you guys figure this out. Discussion question. What safeguards should exist to prevent law enforcement from acting on potential potentially unreliable digital evidence? Wow, dude, we are not the right people to answer that, man. Ideally they would have like seen, seen the difference somewhere. How when he originally got convicted, how did they not like figure this out? That's actually crazy to not have noticed. How should courts evaluate evidence that comes from online identities, usernames and other digital identities identifiers? Man. We're asking some like pretty high level legal stuff that not equipped to answer, especially on the spot, live on a show. But maybe they should like make sure. I mean, I've had this problem with logins before. I remember we had a login like when you're submitting a new app to the App Store, they will log into it and check out how your app works because they're trying to see if it's okay to go in the App Store or not. You have to provide a login for them to do that. For Floatplane, in the past we did that. I don't remember if it was Google or Apple. I think it was. I think it was Apple, but I genuinely don't remember which it was. And they mistyped, they did like float plane, but plane was P, L, A I N or something like that.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Nice.

[Linus Sebastian]

And they got the domain wrong and they couldn't log in. And they're like, your app can't go up. We can't log in into it. You're trying to do bad things. And we were like, or you could just copy and paste the.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Why would you ever not use copy paste for a log?

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah.

[Luke Lafreniere]

So like that's crazy.

[Linus Sebastian]

In stuff like this, knowing how many different usernames there can be for different things and knowing the slight variance in usernames that can exist. You know, maybe they never deal with things in a way that you're typing it in. Maybe they just have to copy paste all the time.

[Dan]

I don't know.

[Luke Lafreniere]

All right, Dan. Yeah, go ahead. Oh, he's working on it. He's cooking. I have decided to retire and pursue my true passion.

[Linus Sebastian]

Nice.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Which is converting outdoor children's playhouses into chicken coops.

[Linus Sebastian]

It's the blurriest photo. There we go.

[Luke Lafreniere]

So this was a little playhouse that Yvonne found on Facebook Marketplace.

[Linus Sebastian]

That's a cool project.

[Luke Lafreniere]

And we went and picked up some wood stain and some plywood. And my kids make funny faces when I take pictures of them now, which is very helpful. Thank you. My kids. That's my son. Staple gunning in some leftover vinyl crap that we had lying around. You can actually see the little. The nesting boxes behind him. You can also see the kind of jerry rigged holders that I made for the. The perches. Dan, do you want to show the perch shot with the chickens on it? We didn't mean to adopt chickens. It was. It was unintentional. We did this fun thing that I think I've talked about, where, of course,

[Linus Sebastian]

they're both up there.

[Luke Lafreniere]

You get some incubated eggs, and you get, like, a little incubator for them, and you get this, like, viewer thing that you can look inside and see the. The eggs developing into little chicks. And then you get to raise the chicks, and you can kind of hand feed them and play with them, and then you just kind of give them back when you're done. And then something really unfortunate happened is the kids named them.

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Luke Lafreniere]

And I discovered. Which I didn't know because on my hobby farm, chickens were just egg factories, and we didn't interact with them at all. But I didn't realize that as part of their being social creatures and flock animals, they actually do recognize humans and do form social bonds with humans and are actually highly, highly interactive social creatures. And we couldn't give them away.

[Dan]

It's kind of the same way I ended up with chickens when I was a kid. The local grade one class did the same thing. And then they're like, what are we gonna do with them? Because those also look like weird artisanal breeds that are like, random types of chickens, Right?

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yep, Same thing.

[Dan]

They're great. You'll enjoy them.

[Linus Sebastian]

They're stinky.

[Luke Lafreniere]

They are. My son took what is probably the least flattering couple's photos photo of me and Yvonne ever to. Ever to exist. But it's a great illustration of how. How fun the chickens are. I'm just gonna.

[Linus Sebastian]

Are you making it so, like, coyotes can't get them and stuff?

[Luke Lafreniere]

Oh, you better believe it or not.

[Linus Sebastian]

Easily, at least.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Last thing I want is for coyotes to eat our precious chickens.

[Dan]

The concern is actually raccoons.

[Luke Lafreniere]

The concern is anything but. Yeah. With the staple gun, we're putting hardware, Hardware cloth across all of the, like, Ingrid, you have to have ventilation. I had to, like, I downloaded like a whole bunch of chicken coop videos on one of my. On my flight back From Chicken Coop. YouTube was a long flight. I forget where I was going back from.

[Dan]

Let me know when you want me to put that up.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah, go for it.

[Linus Sebastian]

People in chat. I'd be concerned about Luke.

[Luke Lafreniere]

So anytime we lean over and say hi to them, they like, they come jump up and they get all, like, they get all puffed up and they get all friendly and. Yeah, we can get that off the screen now. Thank you.

[Dan]

One thing that was cool is you can like train them too. We always had like the wheat seed, like the un milled grain. You have a little tub of it and you shake it and they all come running.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah.

[Dan]

Crazy, crazy animals.

[Luke Lafreniere]

So now I have chickens.

[Linus Sebastian]

No, we both have birds.

[Dan]

I didn't.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I don't even eat eggs. I don't like them. I have chickens.

[Linus Sebastian]

Does. Does. Does boy eat eggs? Oh, yeah, yeah, I expected so.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Oh, we'll consume the eggs. It's just like, I didn't. I don't want. I didn't want more animals. Like, I don't have a dog because I don't. I don't have a life that is generally compatible with like, okay, it's this time and they need to do. I need to do this for them. With that said, okay.

[Linus Sebastian]

Chickens are a bit more.

[Luke Lafreniere]

A lot of opportunities for automation.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah, chickens. Yeah.

[Luke Lafreniere]

And so I've been. As part of my vacation time, I've

[Linus Sebastian]

been home assistant chickens playing a lot

[Luke Lafreniere]

more around home assistant. I finally got it to the point where just because I just have not gotten around to it. Not because it's particularly difficult, but I've got it to the point now where if Yvonne is at her desk in the office for more than 20 minutes, it just starts playing her playlist. So she can just chill and vibe and the music will be on and if she leaves for five minutes, it will turn off.

[Linus Sebastian]

Is this Odysseus?

[Luke Lafreniere]

No.

[Linus Sebastian]

Okay.

[Luke Lafreniere]

No, this is just. This is just basic, simple home assistant stuff that I was never the one who set it up. So going in after the fact in some ways can Be more difficult because you're trying to figure out what happened here, what exactly happened here, and how does all this work. And it also. You're less than incentivized because everything that you need to work kind of fundamentally does work. But I'm finally installing those Innovelli millimeter wave switches so we can do proper presence sensing pretty much anywhere in the house. The Sonos integration is actually really great. So I'm finally starting to play around with, like, okay, how can I start to finally freaking automate some stuff around this house? And I'm looking at, like, looking at the chickens and going, like, okay, now hold on a second.

[Linus Sebastian]

Oh, there's tons.

[Luke Lafreniere]

This could be very cool.

[Linus Sebastian]

Most of it.

[Luke Lafreniere]

You can get them, it seems like, to the point where you basically, like, once a month, fill up the food hopper, and once every week or two weeks, like, shovel out all the crap.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah. We could even theoretically have done it with the budgies. The budgies. The problem is mostly a cleanliness thing, so you end up needing to clean it so often that it just doesn't really make a difference.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Right.

[Linus Sebastian]

So it's not as applicable. But with chickens, they're outdoors, which helps with that a lot.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yep.

[Dan]

We

[Luke Lafreniere]

think one of them might be a rooster.

[Linus Sebastian]

Oh, no.

[Luke Lafreniere]

So that's a bit of a up on our part.

[Dan]

Good luck with that, man.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah, well, it wasn't a mistake. It wasn't a mistake. I just needed to make that joke. We got them as eggs, so we had no way of knowing what they're gonna be.

[Dan]

Are you gonna deal with it?

[Luke Lafreniere]

Apparently, you can get collars for them that prevent them from fully filling the air sack to do the full crow.

[Dan]

No, it's more about the violence.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I do know that they can be a little bit aggressive.

[Dan]

Rangers, did you ever have a rooster?

[Luke Lafreniere]

No, I never had a rooster. Oh, wait, yes, I did. That's a lie. My. My. My pet chicken. Okay, so this is complicated. Before the hobby farm, I ended up with a pet chicken named Henrietta. She was white. She was a rooster. We found that out later. And so she started.

[Linus Sebastian]

She was a rooster.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah. She started crowing in the mornings, and I had to give her away to a nice farm that I was assured would not eat her. She was certainly eaten. But anyway, the point is, yes, I have owned a rooster, and I would hold her like this, like a baby, and pet her, and she actually loved it. It was.

[Dan]

It was.

[Luke Lafreniere]

It was pretty great.

[Dan]

Nice.

[Luke Lafreniere]

And then I didn't have her anymore because she was a boy.

[Dan]

Yeah. Mine was called Mrs. Snooty, as I called her.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Mrs. Snooty. So you also named your rooster a boy name. Is this a thing we have in common? A girl named.

[Dan]

Well, I mean when you, when you're young, like they don't.

[Linus Sebastian]

You don't know.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah.

[Dan]

You don't know what they are. And so it's like, oh, well, they're all women and then this one is

[Luke Lafreniere]

evil, but I see.

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Linus Sebastian]

Or Snooty.

[Dan]

They wanted to protect. He wanted to protect his girls. And you know, you get near it and the thing was just crazy. It would attack you. It would.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I have heard that. I have heard that about some of them, but it was not my personal experience. But he didn't have any ladies to protect, so.

[Dan]

Yeah, I had about 13. And so, you know, he had his flock. So, you know, we dealt with ours. Yours went to a different farm. We did that ourselves. Great tasting bird, I'll tell you that.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Right?

[Dan]

Nice.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah. So you had to eat your pet too. So we do have that in common then.

[Dan]

Yeah. Yeah. I think, I think people don't get to own animals unless they've eaten them before.

[Luke Lafreniere]

They.

[Linus Sebastian]

That's very strange.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I, I think I could, I think I could understand what you're talking about at all if you said it the other way.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Like people shouldn't eat animals unless they've, you know, but they shouldn't own animals. I'm turn off the producer camera.

[Linus Sebastian]

I'll put Dan back away. There's a bunch of people in chat who like hamster cat.

[Dan]

Actually we have the original Joy of Cooking that has guinea guinea pig in it.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Oh my God. Old Joy of Cooking. Freaking tomes are freaking crazy. It is all the recipes for brains and stuff.

[Dan]

Oh yeah, this thing is thick and it's crazy.

[Luke Lafreniere]

It's wild. You get old Joy of Cooking. You're like, what was the joy in eating any of this? I hope there's joy in the cooking of it.

[Dan]

There's a little drawing of a guinea pig. It's like, I'm putting this book away. You don't know what food is.

[Linus Sebastian]

Oh, boy.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Oh, I found some good news about Windows. Windows 11 now allows you to adjust your trackpad's right click zone, a feature that Mac OS doesn't have.

[Linus Sebastian]

Way to go, Windows. Way to go. A genuinely. As far as I can tell, just good thing.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Nathan's note from creating the notes for this. I didn't know this was a thing at all. I've always just done a two finger tap for my right clicks. Get out. Nathan.

[Linus Sebastian]

Gross.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I mean I can be a two finger tap guy sometimes, but it's not as good for when you're two handing it icky. I mean you're very judgy today. Have you noticed that?

[Linus Sebastian]

Not even knowing it's a thing, you're very judgy today. Good.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Global PC shipments dropped 4% in Q2 of 2026. This is the first drop since 2024. This is in the throes of the memory crisis. IDC predicts that shipments will decline 11.3% for the full year and Q4 could see a drop of 20% year over year. Okay. Oh, the next note says this. The blame is squarely on massive hikes in DRAM and NAND pricing due to the demands of AI data centers. Our discussion question is from Linus. It took this long.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah. If anything, honestly, that's crazy.

[Luke Lafreniere]

How did it take this long for. Because everyone I talked to at like Computex was like yeah, yo, everything's tough. But that's, that's the enthusiast space. Right. So it took this long for sales to decline in like Lenovo laptops, like the HP desktops at Best Buy or whatever.

[Linus Sebastian]

I mean to be fair, there's a big lag there it space.

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Linus Sebastian]

A lot of people had pre purchased things. Like it's pretty common. We did this to a certain degree. We had pre purchased some laptops. There was a lot of pushback internally against us doing that in the past, but we got some amount of them pre purchased.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I mean even inventory can be on like you can sign a contract for what you're, it's going to be shipped over.

[Linus Sebastian]

To be clear, when I say there was a bunch of pushback, they had good reasons. I'm not, I'm not trying to do that. They had very good reasons and there was no way any of us could have seen these price hikes coming. So like their reasons made a lot more sense when you don't have, you know, you can't tell the future.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Dropped a link in here. Oh, sorry.

[Linus Sebastian]

I thought, you know, it's just basically like. And that's been floating us for a little while, but people are going to run to the end of those stocks or run to the end of those pre agreements and then things are going to slow down.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I think Jordan dropped the link here is aiprofitable.com.

[Linus Sebastian]

oh yeah. What is this? This website's pretty cool.

[Luke Lafreniere]

No, everyone's broke. Sorry, what am I looking at here? Tracking the spend and revenue estimations of frontier AI companies.

[Linus Sebastian]

July 2026 that is a really fun line right there. Yeah, it's pretty cool.

[Luke Lafreniere]

So are we going to watch a million dollars be spent on AI right now?

[Linus Sebastian]

Technically it's an estimation, but yeah, we are. So it took you two chips, I think. Pretty sure it was two chips to spend a million dollars on AI.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I'm still spending, baby.

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Okay, what else am I looking at here? Total industry revenue 769 billion, which is a lot of money, but unfortunately it's not as much as total industry spend.

[Linus Sebastian]

Another fun part of that is as you scroll down, you'll see the red and green bars and you'll also notice when it starts to flip.

[Luke Lafreniere]

So the big investors are not seeing the returns on their spend.

[Linus Sebastian]

Amazon being so high up on spend was a little surprising to me when I looked at this. To be honest, I'm surprised that Amazon has more spend than Microsoft.

[Dan]

Microsoft.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I hate that a company that spent a billion dollars on AI you can barely even see. It doesn't even register. Meanwhile, the shovel vendor.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah, and it's interesting as well.

[Luke Lafreniere]

All the shovel vendors, that's where they are. Everyone's all about the shovels.

[Linus Sebastian]

Honestly, they should really try to get sk, Hynix and Samsung and stuff like that in here. But yeah, it's mostly Nvidia. Like when you look at it, even micron, it's like actually way lower than I expected. Like, like be more to the right and then scroll up and you'll see another column there.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Oh yeah, total loss.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah.

[Dan]

Wow.

[Linus Sebastian]

It's like Amazon's down $309 billion. But then when you scroll down and look at the green ones, they're not that high. Except for Nvidia.

[Luke Lafreniere]

These are unfathomably like.

[Linus Sebastian]

Obviously 8 to 9 billion dollars in profit is incredible. But then you look at 288 and

[Luke Lafreniere]

it's like, whoa, earned since page load. Hold on a second. All right, that's crazy. This is crazy too. Disclaimers. The AI economy is circular. Google funds anthropic. Anthropic runs on Google cloud. Amazon funds anthropic. Microsoft co invests with OpenAI. This means aggregate industry figures, double count some revenue flows. This site is one person's best effort on an honest picture, not a financial audit. If you have better sources, please reach out. I want to improve this site as much as possible every day. This is such a cute little project.

[Linus Sebastian]

No, it's awesome. That's the reason why I gave the caveat at the beginning of like it's an estimate or whatever.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah, of course.

[Linus Sebastian]

Is they're doing the best they can, but it's. You can look into their sources and like, it feels like they're doing the best they can. Like it's. This person does seem to be actually trying, which is cool. It's a cool site.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Want to pick one?

[Linus Sebastian]

Sure. What do we got here?

[Luke Lafreniere]

Pick your poison.

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Linus Sebastian]

It appears Reddit is forcing mandatory account logins to access its desktop site. The pop up gives gives users only 2 options. Get started or I already have an account. There's no obvious way to dismiss the pop up and keep browsing. The change follows Reddit's plan to require logins on old Reddit to curb scraping and bot traffic. But the restriction may be expanding to new Reddit as well. Before we get into discussion, questions, this feels like the opposite side of the coin or the other end of the spectrum or something from a bunch of companies doing massive layoffs and then saying that it's because they're replacing the people with AI and then just not really doing that. Or then hiring more people to fill those roles, but just not as many people as they did before or just, you know, different people or whatever where they just. As the company clearly just wanted to do this layoff anyways, but they're calling it AI stuff so probably their stock doesn't get tanked. This feels like the same, but opposite end of the thing where they're like, oh, we don't want it to get scraped so we're going to require accounts. They probably really just wanted to get more acquire accounts. Yeah, that's probably what they really wanted. But they can blame it on some AI thing and then everyone will. Not everyone, but people will turn a blind eye.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I don't think this is going to stop AIs from scraping it. No, of course not.

[Linus Sebastian]

There's make an account.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah.

[Linus Sebastian]

Are you kidding?

[Luke Lafreniere]

They'll just make infinite accounts.

[Linus Sebastian]

There's agents right now that can make accounts for this type of stuff. You're not getting anything.

[Luke Lafreniere]

There's probably agents making accounts right now. Probably like en masse.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah.

[Luke Lafreniere]

So that they can build up history on the account so that they can ultimately be. Be sold for fake engagement. Like it's. Yeah, this is clearly just security. Reddit and sh Fying taking yet another step towards being generally less useful. I think. I think the best we can hope for is that this is yet another stop on the long march towards Reddit ultimately being replaced by something else.

[Linus Sebastian]

That's another thing I've been using a lot less of lately is Reddit and I didn't use it much before and I use it a lot less now, which is basically never. I'll get linked things off of like whatever and I'll look at it and then usually I go away after.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I think I've told you that the best thing Reddit ever did for me was eliminating R all from new Reddit. It's great. I use it so much less now.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Because the only. I think I've showed you this before too. The only way that I can interact with Reddit is through this horrible, horrible, like old Reddit interface on mobile, which is just. Is so much work that I just don't use it very much.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah, perfect.

[Dan]

Yep.

[Linus Sebastian]

That's actually great. I agree.

[Luke Lafreniere]

It's great. There's no infinite scrolling.

[Linus Sebastian]

Nice.

[Luke Lafreniere]

It's like I can barely tell what any of the thumbnails are.

[Linus Sebastian]

The next button is not infinite scrolling. I think that is actually like. It is a J. It might not sound important. It's a very important distinction.

[Luke Lafreniere]

It actually is. I never go to the third page.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah, exactly.

[Luke Lafreniere]

There's above the fold, below the fold, and an infinite void of nothing that matters.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yep.

[Dan]

Yep.

[Luke Lafreniere]

100% yep.

[Dan]

You're so right.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Razer has been caught red handed. Telling the truth. Razer touted their new frame sync technology with the release of the Viper V4 Pro earlier this year. They promised that it synchronizes the mouse's sensor data, reporting directly with the computer's USB polling cycle to minimize input latency and improve tracking stability. It sounded kind of hard to believe, but Twitter user PNO has now verified. I'm gonna go with. Piano has now verified the veracity of Razer's claims using a homemade testing rig and an oscilloscope. Very cool. You guys might want to go check this out. They are synchronized, apparently. This is such a neat test setup. I freaking love it. Yep, they're in sync. Cool. Good work, Piano. Oh, piano.

[Linus Sebastian]

Oh, I didn't get that either. That's pretty good. Dang.

[Luke Lafreniere]

All right, time for After Dark. Dan hit me.

[Dan]

I needed some more warning than that,

[Luke Lafreniere]

but sure, now he's gone After Dark

[Dan]

banner to After Dark. Even unlock my phone. Boop boop.

[Luke Lafreniere]

It's time. More like Luke after go to bed.

[Linus Sebastian]

I'm tired. It's been a heck of a week.

[Dan]

Tired.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I may have Coop.

[Linus Sebastian]

I'm excited for the weekend so I can finish the work I was doing during the week.

[Dan]

Oh, that's my favorite thing to do. I'm always so excited. Love the first two floatplane life skills videos. Any ideas for what the next one will be.

[Linus Sebastian]

It'll be in a year.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Nope, it's Sammy's series. So whatever Sammy says is what we're gonna do. I enjoyed teaching the swimming lessons. What are some other, like, basic life skills? We did riding a bike and we did swimming so far.

[Dan]

Changing your oil. Oh, how to change.

[Linus Sebastian]

Basic car maintenance. Like genuinely basic oil. And it's. Would be pretty good.

[Dan]

Oil and air filters. The things that you have to do every single time.

[Luke Lafreniere]

A cabin filter.

[Dan]

You gotta know how to do that.

[Linus Sebastian]

Those would all be. That would actually genuinely be pretty sweet.

[Dan]

How to. How to do a base. Pretty good soldering.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I did. I saw a suggestion on. I think it was the. The pool one. How to do like. Like wall hole patches.

[Linus Sebastian]

That would be awesome.

[Dan]

How to hang a picture. What is the stud? Versus like just putting it in drywall would be quite useful.

[Linus Sebastian]

Linus, the collective dad of floatplane is what this is starting to now sound like.

[Dan]

I mean, there's a. There's a YouTuber I think he's called.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yes.

[Dan]

Can't remember his name.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yep. I know who you're talking about though.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Is his whole shit that he's kind of like your dad.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Just teaching you how to do stuff.

[Dan]

Ask your dad. But it's him. And he teaches you how to.

[Luke Lafreniere]

That's pretty cool.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Cat says how to shave. Okay, fun fact. When I reached adolescence, I was not living with my biological father and it was complicated. And so I never had anyone teach me how to shave. I just kind of made it up as I went, dad, how do I. Okay.

[Dan]

That's.

[Luke Lafreniere]

That's a really cool name for a channel.

[Linus Sebastian]

Change a tire.

[Dan]

Shave.

[Linus Sebastian]

Tie a tie. Jump a car. I'm proud of you. You got this lovely.

[Dan]

It's so nice.

[Linus Sebastian]

Peanut butter cookies. Install a thermostat.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Wow. He really relies on like evergreen kind of algorithmic.

[Linus Sebastian]

That's easy. Pumpkin bread.

[Dan]

With the whole channel built on evergreen. It's a whole concept. Yeah. Which is kind of sick, man.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Like, none of these are getting mondo views anymore though.

[Dan]

Or is it.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Is it just that popular?

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Where. Where are the bangers?

[Linus Sebastian]

It might be because it's evergreen stuff. He's already done it. He did tie a tie. He did shaving. He did unclog a bathtub drain.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Right. The low hanging fruit was done at the beginning.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah. Jumpstart a car. Put up a shelf. Change a tire. Fix a running toilet. Yeah. So he did the evergreen stuff right away and then ran out of the easier topics. He's still making content and the Evergreen stuff probably still gets views.

[Dan]

How do you.

[Luke Lafreniere]

A can opener? Okay, listen, Gen Z.

[Dan]

Really, Cans don't come with instructions. What am I supposed to do? What if you have one of the side ones versus, like, the top one?

[Linus Sebastian]

Hey, man. I mean it. Got it. Got 300.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yes, I know. That's why I'm upset.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah, not at him.

[Dan]

That's why this channel exists, because some people don't know how to sell your money.

[Linus Sebastian]

Honestly, this one maybe should have gotten more views if it's. If it's good. The vehicle's cabin air filter. There you go.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Nice, solid.

[Linus Sebastian]

How to build a bench.

[Luke Lafreniere]

There's the filter replacement for your refrigerator. Your fridge water filter. Okay, that's a. That's a. That's a shameful secret. I have never replaced a fridge water filter.

[Dan]

I've never had water in a fridge.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I just don't use it.

[Dan]

Oh.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I. It just. It gets cut. It's kind of nasty tasting when you get a new fridge because of all the plastic crap. And then I don't like using it, and then the filter gets bad, and then I don't like using it.

[Linus Sebastian]

We are.

[Luke Lafreniere]

And so I just don't use it.

[Linus Sebastian]

Currently. The Brita enjoyers.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Oh, dude, Brita is goated.

[Dan]

Tap. Damn it.

[Linus Sebastian]

Our place. Our place has haunted pipes, so we, like, genuinely can't really do tap because sometimes it'll just be hot no matter what you do.

[Dan]

Nice.

[Linus Sebastian]

And there. There is genuinely. You can leave it on one side for five minutes. It's still hot. You turn that off, you turn the other side on. Five minutes, still hot.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I actually have a similar issue, believe it or not, not. Not hot, but, like, tepid. Like, my cold water will just not go cold.

[Linus Sebastian]

Not be cold.

[Luke Lafreniere]

It'll be the winter that is almost

[Linus Sebastian]

all the time for us. And then sometimes it'll be, like, genuinely, like, ow. Hot to the touch. And there's nothing you can do about it. I've also. I've also had the inverse, but that's much rarer, where there just is no such thing as hot water, no matter what you do. I. I've talked to my dad about it. Plumber. And he was, like, a little bit confused. But then when we were doing the renovation, he found what he thinks is likely at least part of the culprit, which is that there's, like, no inside insulation between the pipes.

[Dan]

Solid.

[Linus Sebastian]

And that probably just goes through the whole building. So the pipes are influencing each other's temperature too much. So the temperature of our faucets might be getting influenced by Someone else running a bath, Whatever is happening elsewhere in the building. Yeah, very cool. Very, very awesome. There's a lot of really bad things done in the construction of our building, but it is what it is.

[Dan]

Hey, Dan, Linus and Luke, are there any more cat or cat themed products in the plants? My cats love the retro monitor and the cat desk pad.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I think we're doing a little. Cute little cat. What are they called? Those little things that hang on the top of your monitor? Anyone know what they're called? Hipper. Is it called a hipper?

[Linus Sebastian]

I have not a single clue.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I don't know Gen Z's?

[Linus Sebastian]

No, I don't think I'm the right target audience.

[Luke Lafreniere]

You're really not. You'd have to be a person who buys a thing.

[Dan]

Does it like block some of the monitor?

[Luke Lafreniere]

Are they called hippers?

[Dan]

Hold on.

[Luke Lafreniere]

What's it. What is it?

[Dan]

Imagine having bezels thick enough to hold something up.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Minifigures. Minifigures. Hippers. Is this a thing? What am I looking at here? Okay, there are bums on my screen now, so that's something. Yeah, yeah. So like there'll be a little cat that'll hang on the back of your.

[Linus Sebastian]

Oh, but there's the. They're these little guys.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah, but not that.

[Linus Sebastian]

Like they know these little guy. Those little guys infested the infrastructure office.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Oh, really?

[Linus Sebastian]

Oh, yeah. They're everywhere.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Oh, yeah. Okay.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah, I can't get rid of them,

[Luke Lafreniere]

so I think we're doing one of those.

[Dan]

And then.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Oh, wait, did we know? Did we did we launched the Great Indoors Collection. Is that a thing on LTT store? Did I just leak a thing?

[Linus Sebastian]

I think you did.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Oh, okay.

[Linus Sebastian]

Pretty sure you did.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Well, we're working on the Great Indoors Collection.

[Dan]

Tony's leaking it more now, which is a.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Which is a cute. We're gonna have a hat that has like a cute little cat that's like roasting a marshmallow open over a fire. But I think he's like sitting on a monitor or something like that. And then we're gonna have a something. We're gonna have a shirt and it's like very indoor coated, but like outdoor themed kind of thing. And then I guess I'll also leak that we're finally going to do a clear plastic water bottle. And we are. We are partnering with the one, the only. I forget their name right now, but you know the one.

[Linus Sebastian]

Nalgene. Yeah, okay.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah, that one.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah. Yeah, I knew the answer. I was like, wait, Yeah, I was surprised you forgot the Name. So I was like, is it something that.

[Dan]

I didn't think it was that special plastic thing.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah. So we're gonna have a. A. We're gonna have a great indoors Nalgene bottle.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah. Sick.

[Luke Lafreniere]

So that'll be pretty cool.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah, that's awesome.

[Dan]

Gimme.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah, me too. Yeah, I would like. Clear would be pretty sweet.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah, it's. Well, it's more like a dark green to go with the graphics.

[Linus Sebastian]

Translucent.

[Luke Lafreniere]

But yeah, yeah, sure. Yeah, you can see the water.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Turns out, also want these because I'm assuming this is going to do a lot better at the, like, thermo stuff, but having a clear one would be sweet.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Turns out Nalgene is actually super easy to work. Work with. So we just, like, didn't do it because we just didn't do it for many years, but now we're going to do it. So. Yeah, we just, like reached out to them. They were like, yeah, basically just like have to put our brand here and then everything else is kind of up to you. Do you want to do this style of printing or do you want to do this style of printing? And we just like make it and deal with everything and we're like, oh, wow. So that's why everyone does this. Yeah, it's great.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah. Okay.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I don't remember the question, but hopefully that answered it.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah.

[Dan]

Hey, lld, just restocking on some of the bits I have lost since I got my screwdriver in batch four.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Ooh. Long time ago.

[Dan]

Linus's hot takes are infamous, but what's one prediction you're glad you got wrong?

[Luke Lafreniere]

I don't know, man. It's so hard to remember everything I've ever been wrong about.

[Linus Sebastian]

I actually really like these questions, but I do hope that people understand how much stuff is said publicly by especially him. I think mine is an incredible amount and he is multiple times more than me. So, like, my God, how do you remember all that stuff?

[Dan]

Weren't we talking a video earlier that was done 12 years ago.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah, kind of doing this for a long time.

[Dan]

You can't, like, ask these questions.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I was talking to my kids about it. I was like, yeah, we've. Because they asked, like, why I don't do a video about this or a video about that. And I'm like, well, because I did that one and I did that one too. And they obviously wouldn't get the reference of Simpsons did it because they're not allowed to watch south park yet. Well, my younger ones aren't and that's who I was talking to. And I was just like, yeah, it's. Sorry, kids. The reason that these ideas are really good. Thank you for your wonderful ideas. Video pitch ideas. But we can talk about something else because realistically, if you think of something, we've probably already done a video about it. But that doesn't mean that I necessarily remember it. I mean, Luke and I have talked on the show about watching old videos and like laughing at them as though we are consuming the content fresh. I mean, Luke had to watch his video on DirectX 12 and Vulcan and SLI in order to learn about what happened with all of that because you couldn't remember a single damn thing.

[Linus Sebastian]

There will be especially ones that I didn't write. So there will be like old tech quickies. I forgot that I did a bunch of tech wikis back in the day, like a lot actually. And I'll. I'll see one of them come up and I'll see the thumbnail and I'll be like, what? And then I'll watch the whole video and have like, in that moment learned everything I just said because I remembered not a single word. It's just like, oh, my God. Because I mean, realistically, that was half an hour of my life 12 years ago or something. Like, of course I don't remember that.

[Luke Lafreniere]

But like, what do you remember from 12 years ago?

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah.

[Dan]

At your job. Random 30 minutes of something that you do every single day.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah. And then like, apparently it's being shown in like a class or something. What the heck? I mean, that. That is sweet, but I don't remember it at all. Yeah. I'm trying to think prediction, we're happy didn't happen. I. At one point in time, I wonder if. Yeah. It's wondering if we made a prediction or not. There was questions.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Okay, I have one. Okay, I'm ready.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I predicted that moving the when show podcast to its own channel where we only did the streams and nothing else would be disastrous for its growth and would take a long time to like recover from.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah, live viewers are super strong. That's wildly good for us lately.

[Dan]

That's wirely good for us for years.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I don't know what the is happening right now. I don't think the WAN show suddenly got more interesting. No offense to us. You're wonderful. It's stabilized. You're wonderful.

[Dan]

It's not a spike. It's stabilized now at 15:5.

[Luke Lafreniere]

This is insane.

[Dan]

Where did all you come from?

[Luke Lafreniere]

Stop it. Stop it now.

[Linus Sebastian]

I have no explanation for that. That's A good one, though.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah, I got that.

[Linus Sebastian]

That's a really good one.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Like, we agonized over the decision of like, oh yeah, how to do this whole the wan show is 5050 owned by me and Luke thing. You know, do we just leave it on the LMG channel?

[Linus Sebastian]

And we really do.

[Luke Lafreniere]

We have Dan create a report to split the AdSense in the future whenever, if that's necessary. Do we put the clips and the thing on the same channel? Do we do this? Do we do that? How are we gonna do this? To do it in a way that's like, you know, that that means that by the time Luke owns 50% of something, it isn't worthless.

[Linus Sebastian]

We really didn't want to put it on its own channel because in a lot of ways that is just a chance of death. But the community was like, bruh, I, you know, I'm signing up for a live stream. I don't want to watch the livestream. And they get spammed with clips of the livestream that I just watched for a super long time. Fair enough. So we. We split it off and honestly, in the first couple weeks it was like, well, guess it's over. Guess we'll just keep doing it. But it's like kind of over. And then, yeah, apparently it's not. So. Thank you very much. I appreciate it.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah, we appreciate all of you.

[Linus Sebastian]

I can't super maybe chat can. I can't super think of a prediction right now.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Like, are more people watching on Twitch too? Or is this just that YouTube algorithm has finally figured out what. What when show be and how it served when show normal.

[Dan]

Normal on Twitch?

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah.

[Dan]

At least within a.

[Linus Sebastian]

That's interesting, dude. Floatplanes, numbers.

[Luke Lafreniere]

How are there. How are there a thousand people watching this on twitch?

[Dan]

It's around 2,000 every week.

[Luke Lafreniere]

That's just like, gross. Look at this gross website.

[Dan]

It's.

[Luke Lafreniere]

It's just disgusting. And now I'm looking at it twice because it's here and also here.

[Linus Sebastian]

The sad part is you're also making all the YouTube people look at Twitch now.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Oh, sorry. Yeah, I'll do better. Yeah, man. I have not logged into the Twitch dashboard in, I think quite literally years. I don't miss it at all.

[Linus Sebastian]

I remember back when I thought Twitch was cool during the first ltx.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah.

[Linus Sebastian]

At the Langley Events center. We couldn't get our stream key for some reason. And I had to call that. That guy that I used to know at Twitch and he was out on a boat and he was like, I literally can't help you. Right now I'm out on a boat on the ocean. But he's like, but I'll get someone who can help you. And I got a random call from a random number which I don't normally answer, but I picked it up and they were like, I don't know, like, what you did, but I'm here to give you a stream key. That was like, one of the coolest calls I've ever over. That was awesome.

[Dan]

Hello, this is Twitch. Please stream to this address. Do you have a pen and paper? Yes. Modern video technology.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Sometimes it's pretty good to be us. Yeah, every once in a while I'll have.

[Linus Sebastian]

Well, there was also a lot of the, like, original. Not not necessarily original, but a lot of the pre Amazon OG they were cool. Yeah, Twitch used to be really cool. I'm not super into Twitch anymore, but it used to be really cool.

[Luke Lafreniere]

All right, Dan, hit us.

[Dan]

Big chug. Okay, let's see. Look. You recently talked about retiring. Do you think when Linus takes a step back, that'll be a signal for you? Also replacing my OG backup backpack. No backup, because that'll be my diaper bag. Backpack.

[Linus Sebastian]

Backpack.

[Dan]

Backpack. You meant to say backpack.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Oh, your og. That is an amazing use for the OG backpack. It would be a great diaper bag. I've never really thought of that.

[Linus Sebastian]

The OG backpack.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah. So he's getting a commuter for himself to daily because the OG is going to be his diaper bag now. Interesting. Okay. Yeah, it would be a sick diaper bag. You got like kind of your, like, stash things. Instead of using it as a water bottle thing, you could put like your this. Just keep it separate and easy to access. But like your wet wipes in there. And then in the front you can put any of the, like, little like, bits and pieces and bits and bobbins that you need. And then you just got like the big container of holding that you can put all that crap in. If you had like a little, like, changing mat that would slip perfectly into the laptop sleeve. Like, I never thought of that. All right, cool. Anywho, carry on?

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah, I don't think so. So the question was basically, do you think when Linus takes a step back, that'll be a signal for you? It kind of depends when that happens, I guess.

[Luke Lafreniere]

But I'm older than him, so, like, realistically, I will retire before him, and so what, his life ends because I retired?

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah. So like, no, not really. But it also also depends, like, how late you decide to retire, though. It also depends what your retirement Actually looks like.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Right. Because we've talked about, like, one of the reasons that WAN show is now going to be a separate entity is if one of us departs Linus Media Group or retires or does whatever. It's like a pact. It's like a formalization of. Okay. But the WAN show lives on, and there can never be any reason that the WAN show doesn't live on, especially if people actually watch it, which they

[Linus Sebastian]

do, and help so much.

[Luke Lafreniere]

WAN show forever. WAN Show A thousand years. A thousand years WAN Show.

[Linus Sebastian]

That's great. Thank you.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah, that's great. Appreciate y'.

[Dan]

All. So.

[Luke Lafreniere]

So with that in mind, like, you know, what.

[Dan]

What.

[Luke Lafreniere]

What does retirement actually look like?

[Linus Sebastian]

Does retirement mean doing a podcast every week?

[Luke Lafreniere]

I would think so.

[Linus Sebastian]

Maybe.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Like, I think I could.

[Linus Sebastian]

I don't think my retirement's gonna be, like, super real.

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Linus Sebastian]

I. I could see myself having a version of retirement.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah.

[Linus Sebastian]

I'm not saying, oh, I've got a nose to the grindstone the rest of my life, but, like.

[Luke Lafreniere]

But there's no way that I'm gonna

[Linus Sebastian]

want to do nothing. Yeah.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I don't think.

[Linus Sebastian]

I don't know what the heck we talk about in 50 years, but we'll find something.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Like, I mean, realistically, I'm. I'm. I'm well ahead of retirement age, and I've already, like, joked about buying myself but my retirement present, which, funnily enough, is just another job.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Like, Smash Champs is the thing that I'll joke to people that I bought myself. It's my retirement gift to myself as a badminton club. Like, it's literally a functioning business.

[Linus Sebastian]

I'm always going to want to do something, and I really, really, really like progressing things. Is that a way to say it?

[Luke Lafreniere]

I think so. Yeah.

[Linus Sebastian]

Improving things.

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Linus Sebastian]

So I'll probably find a way to get myself involved with something here or there. And that does not necessarily hinge on Linus retiring or not. And again, what does retirement mean?

[Dan]

Is.

[Linus Sebastian]

So I could see a version of retirement for you where you still make tech videos.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Oh, I could see that 100%.

[Linus Sebastian]

So, like, I. You actually asked a very nuanced and interesting question.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I. I love the way Jenna Marbles did it, where she just basically went vanished. I am of a different era. You know what? Thanks for everything. Goodbye. I loved that. I thought it was so cool.

[Linus Sebastian]

I thought it was so crazy how effective it was.

[Luke Lafreniere]

So classy.

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I love the way PewDiePie did it. I'm retired, by the way. It. I just still make videos. I'm not retired at all.

[Linus Sebastian]

They're just really now only the things that I want to make, and they're going to be really random.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah, love that too. I love what Matpat's done where he's just like, well, I sold theorist. I no longer make theories. But that's just a theory. Actually. I, you know, I work on, like, he's doing some advocacy in Washington around, like, streaming and, like, Internet video legislation and stuff. Like, dude, actually, they're.

[Dan]

They're.

[Luke Lafreniere]

They're both still doing stuff. Stefan, Matt. Trying to think of, like, prominent other retired people. I mean, Ray William Johnson seems happily retired, uploading copious numbers of YouTube shorts.

[Linus Sebastian]

Is he really? I mean, that makes sense.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah, he. He.

[Linus Sebastian]

Of anyone from that era, that makes the most sense for him to be doing shorts.

[Luke Lafreniere]

He became an absolute nobody and then had a huge resurgence in shorts. Okay, what is this? Goodbye. Did you. Did I just get clickbaited by Ray William Johnson? What even just happened there? What am I.

[Dan]

What am.

[Luke Lafreniere]

What is happening? How do I. I hate the interface for this damn thing. Yeah, okay, when is this from? Okay, yeah, this is from the 12th of June. He's still very much uploading shorts. So there you go. Retired. I don't know. Does a. Does a content creator ever retire? Really? I mean, too mad. Retired. Rest in peace. Too mad. But beyond that, like,

[Linus Sebastian]

what.

[Luke Lafreniere]

What you ding for? What does that even mean? All right, well, it's been a good show. Thanks, everyone, for your support.

[Linus Sebastian]

Oh, my goodness. Oh, my goodness. Outdoor boys. Yeah, I mean, but he's like, he. Okay, so outdoor boys. He was a lawyer, and then he was an outdoor YouTuber and maybe still a lawyer. I don't know. And then now his. His son is making content and he shows up on his son's channels sometimes. Maybe all the time. Maybe sometimes. I'm not sure. Tom Scott sort of retired and then just came right on back.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah, yeah, I ran into him. I've run into him two industry events in the last, like, few months. What kind of content is he doing in his retirement?

[Linus Sebastian]

I think it feels pretty similar to what he used to do.

[Dan]

It's just he doesn't care about the performance.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Look at this anymore.

[Linus Sebastian]

Is that.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Is this AI? Oh, no, it's just a still from a video.

[Dan]

Okay.

[Linus Sebastian]

The. Yeah, I think that's very fair across

[Dan]

Europe because we were talking to him at Open Sauce, and he's like, I'm really concerned about the performance of the next.

[Linus Sebastian]

He wears the same shirt all the time.

[Luke Lafreniere]

And he's like, oh, yeah, how about

[Dan]

that he does one a week.

[Luke Lafreniere]

It's Homer Simpson style. He's wearing the same. Even the under layer.

[Dan]

He sits at the same table and it looks like a dining room table. And he does seated a roll talking about the video he's doing. And then he goes to a place across Europe somewhere, looks at a thing. The videos are like weird and strange. Like his one about the bridge. There is like no one would make that video in their right mind apart from Tom Scott.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Right. But that's kind of the mark of a Tom Scott video.

[Linus Sebastian]

Awesome.

[Dan]

Yeah, absolutely. But even he's like a little concerned about the performance of them, but he cares less.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Now every content creator is concerned about the performance of their videos. So I don't want to make that sound like that's a unique to Tom Scott thing right now. Long form is.

[Linus Sebastian]

Long form is.

[Dan]

But he's not really caring, if you know what I mean. He's like, ah.

[Linus Sebastian]

And he cares a lot about not attracting an audience that he doesn't want and yada yada yada, which is cool. And that's something that you can do if you retire.

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Linus Sebastian]

Content creator who still makes content just makes cool stuff that he's just do it for you. Yeah.

[Luke Lafreniere]

The homepage ad. Ad. This is a really good ad though. You should click it. We do get a bit of VOD stuff, so that's kind of cool. You gross. You YouTube play. Okay. 52 million people have played this. 52 million people have played whole.IO.

[Linus Sebastian]

hold on. I always from such a questionable name.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Voodoo HTML5 Games. It has a store you whole input output

[Dan]

polio. Mm.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Drag to move program. So it's just this.

[Linus Sebastian]

It's like this, the snake game thing. But now it's that whatever the rolly thing is. What is that name?

[Dan]

Katamari.

[Linus Sebastian]

Katamari. It's a snake game, but supposed to feel more like Katamari. I guess you're not big enough to eat the completely scar. Yeah, now you are.

[Dan]

That's a fun concept.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Well, yeah, but it's just.

[Dan]

It's.

[Linus Sebastian]

There's no gradient to your growth. You just grow all at once.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I don't know. It's just stupid.

[Linus Sebastian]

Eat a bunch of cars.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Now I want to eat these people.

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Linus Sebastian]

So you just jump up. I hate that. Why does that bother me so much? Why wouldn't you just grow a little bit of.

[Luke Lafreniere]

This is literally slop. Actual slop.

[Dan]

You know why, Luke.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Way to go YouTube.

[Linus Sebastian]

I do, but way to annoy.

[Dan]

It's so lazy.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah.

[Dan]

Ah.

[Linus Sebastian]

God, I hate that. So much. Okay.

[Dan]

Hello, Luke.

[Linus Sebastian]

Hello, Dan.

[Dan]

And men who can't keep cables or large socks in stock. Linus get freaking roasted. I didn't know that was here.

[Linus Sebastian]

Linus retired from keeping things in stock.

[Dan]

Yeah. So I don't think he ever had that job.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah, I overclock all the things. I never keep them in stock. No, I broke the bell.

[Dan]

I threw the bell across the desk.

[Linus Sebastian]

Oh, my God.

[Dan]

If you hike in the backcountry at all, what tech do you use and do you opt to leave it at home?

[Luke Lafreniere]

Well, you don't have your watch. Did you lose it?

[Dan]

That face says yes.

[Luke Lafreniere]

He predicted it, like, a month ago. When he got it, he's like, I'm gonna lose this.

[Linus Sebastian]

I have no idea where it is.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Why is your water bottle upside down? What have you been doing over there?

[Linus Sebastian]

I wanted to see how long it

[Luke Lafreniere]

would take you to notice you have an upside down water bottle. I don't understand this.

[Dan]

Does it have water in it?

[Linus Sebastian]

No, it's empty.

[Dan]

Why don't you tell me if you need more liquid?

[Linus Sebastian]

I don't need more water.

[Luke Lafreniere]

You managed to keep long enough to get a tan, which is actually sort of impressive for you, and you're managing to hold it exactly behind your water bottle so no one can see it when I'm talking about your watch tan, which is also impressive for you.

[Linus Sebastian]

Easier to see it there.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah. Look at that. He got a watch tan and now he has no watch.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Huh. Okay.

[Linus Sebastian]

I suspect it's still at home.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Oh, yeah.

[Linus Sebastian]

The most common time that it will no longer get back on is when I take a shower.

[Dan]

Right.

[Linus Sebastian]

Because. So it's. It's probably right next to the sink in the bathroom. But honestly, if anything, the fact that I didn't even notice until you pointed it out is why I lose it so easily, but also why it's been living so long. I've been very happy with it, actually.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I'm gonna do it now.

[Linus Sebastian]

What?

[Luke Lafreniere]

I'm gonna buy a Casio calculator watch because I don't actually care about my smartwatch, so I should have something cooler.

[Linus Sebastian]

Nice.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Buy it later.

[Linus Sebastian]

Oh, yeah,

[Dan]

fine.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I will.

[Linus Sebastian]

Good job.

[Dan]

Thank you. Or do it in incognito. Dude, I actually can do whatever you want in incognito.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah. Oh, yeah. No one will know.

[Dan]

Well, Google will, but the stream won't.

[Luke Lafreniere]

All right, I'll do it later.

[Linus Sebastian]

Unless he streams him Doing that backcountry tech. What tech do you use? Do you have to leave it at home? If you leave it at home, you don't use it when hiking in the backcountry so that we're good there.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I don't really back. I mean, I think. Okay, I'm Canadian, so I think of back country as like very back country, the middle of nowhere.

[Linus Sebastian]

What is your level of backcountry?

[Luke Lafreniere]

Like no Internet. Yeah, yeah. I'd never go there. I don't want to go there. I like the Internet. I'm an indoor boy. Like to be clear, I love me a good old grouse grind, you know? Love that. I mean, I think I talked on Wednesday last week about getting lost in like the woods behind that German hotel I was staying at. Like I'm, I'm down for like a hike, but when I have no cell signal I'm like, well this is, this is my compass.

[Dan]

So our backcountry is terrifying.

[Linus Sebastian]

Our backcountry is genuinely terrifying.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Like there's, there's bears there and nothing.

[Linus Sebastian]

The like. What did you say? What tech do you use? The tech you need is like bear spray.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah.

[Linus Sebastian]

And a satellite phone. Yeah.

[Dan]

And like a gun.

[Linus Sebastian]

Like. Oh, go.

[Dan]

Actually a couple guns. Y probably guns that are not allowed to be purchased. You have to like get them from the north to be safe.

[Linus Sebastian]

No, I mean there's, there's. Yeah.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Did I ever show the picture of the bear that was in my yard on wan?

[Linus Sebastian]

Show you can have a shotgun.

[Dan]

Oh, you need like one for each hand. Otherwise you look cool. I mean you could just 3D print the other one. Haha. Callbacks.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Callbacks.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah. I don't think I've ever actually shown it on wan. I don't know that I necessarily should, but there's a shotgun in Canada that you can buy that has a folding stock. And I remember figuring out exactly how it's legal in Canada and it blew my mind. But it's small enough that you can, you can hip holster it. Oh, that's kind of cool. You could have two hip holstered shotguns.

[Luke Lafreniere]

That's crazy.

[Linus Sebastian]

In Canada.

[Dan]

That's nice.

[Linus Sebastian]

Legally.

[Luke Lafreniere]

That's crazy.

[Dan]

Gonna be hard to conceal carry. Yeah, you just walk around like you got.

[Luke Lafreniere]

What are you hunting? Legal things with heartbeats

[Linus Sebastian]

apparently. Lots of them. Because I'm dual wielding shotguns for some reason. It's always faster to switch to your secondary than reloading.

[Dan]

They're going to gank me.

[Linus Sebastian]

They're going to gank me. Hey, I need help. This bear is going to gank me, bro. Oh my God. Someone's probably said that the bear took mid.

[Luke Lafreniere]

What do I do?

[Linus Sebastian]

The Nexus Is your car,

[Dan]

man. I keep feeding the bears with all my friends going camping,

[Luke Lafreniere]

so. Yeah, this is.

[Linus Sebastian]

Bro, why are you inting.

[Dan]

Yeah, we don't go outside.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Okay. Dan, I sent you a picture.

[Dan]

Okay.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Like, this is what shows up in my suburban yard. I do not need to go into the Canadian backcountry. Not necessary. I have to, like, crop this.

[Dan]

I'm. I'm sorry.

[Luke Lafreniere]

All right, never mind. Wait a sec.

[Dan]

Here.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah.

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Sorry, dude. Do whatever you want to do.

[Dan]

I don't know.

[Luke Lafreniere]

It's free country.

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Linus Sebastian]

I mean, I don't know.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I. I love that Dan is cropping an image that I sent him of a picture of my screen. Screenshots are so much work.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah. I've. I've taken, like, pictures of this screen before, and float plane chat will roast me, and they're like, why are you taking a screenshot?

[Luke Lafreniere]

I'm not logged into anything.

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Luke Lafreniere]

It's just so much more work.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah.

[Luke Lafreniere]

You ready, Dan?

[Dan]

No.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Let's watch him work.

[Linus Sebastian]

It's a great question. I've wanted to do a thing for a while now where I. I look into, like, mesh, tattoo mesh tastic, and use, like, the vehicle that we're driving out as, like, the. The node. And then the vehicle can have a really sick antenna so that you could effectively like, connect. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. All that kind of cool stuff, but I haven't got around to doing any of it. Usually my primary tactic has been to go out with a friend of mine who has all those problems solved already, and then it's like, hooray. I'm the passenger princess, but hiking edition. And then it's great.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Nice.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah.

[Luke Lafreniere]

So that was my yard. That's backcountry enough for me.

[Dan]

We're not even in the backcountry.

[Luke Lafreniere]

This is, like, one in the morning. My son was having a sleepover, and they actually heard the bear shattering my gate at the side of my house, but didn't know that that's what the noise was. They just like.

[Linus Sebastian]

I don't know.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I don't know what they thought it was.

[Linus Sebastian]

So.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah, that's pretty cool.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah.

[Dan]

All right. More. Hey, ldl. Excited for the socks.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Jay Hirschman says, yeah, those chickens are gonna last a while.

[Dan]

The raccoons do not try to fight a raccoon.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yes. Yeah, we know, Dan. It is really good advice, though.

[Dan]

Yikes. Question for Linus. What's your opinion on emotos such as surrons all the way to Starks with and without the kids riding them Sirons oh, man.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Okay.

[Linus Sebastian]

They're E bikes, right?

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah. I feel that the main issue right now is just that we have a weird patchwork of regulation around these things, much of which is not being enforced because it's kind of stupid. And so what we need is we need rules that actually make sense so that there is any chance whatsoever of, of adherence and enforcement. Because right now it's the Wild west and something like this that can do 50 miles an hour, accelerating to more than half of that speed in two and a half seconds. Like, you look at how much gear model buddy here is wearing. I see kids all over our neighborhood riding stuff that frankly doesn't go maybe quite this fast, but go T shirts and shorts pretty fast. T shirt shorts often not even a

[Linus Sebastian]

helmet rip in sometimes.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Like, I. I don't. I don't have a solution to this one. This is, this is a tough one. This is a really tough one. On the one hand, you know, is it very convenient for me as a parrot. Parrot. As a, as a parrot, is it very convenient for me as a parent for my kids to be able to just zip themselves off to the in laws place? 100%. Do I think that I could train my kids to ride them in a safe manner? Yeah, probably. Mostly, I hope. Is every kid responsible enough to be in charge of what is essentially a motor vehicle in terms of its speed and its potential for user disaster? No. But then on the other hand, going down a fast enough hill, did I do 30, 40 miles an hour on my pedal bike when I was a kid? Yeah. Could I have died? Yeah, I. But was I doing it all the time? No. Because only when you had a really good downhill could you do anything like that.

[Linus Sebastian]

Emma and I had a conversation the other day when we were walking around a park and we saw these kids ripping around and I just, we watched them go by. And then I looked at her and I was like, is it the kids who are wrong? Because, like, I'm clearly trying to reference. Like, like, this sucks because there was. There was two kids on one scooter that was going really fast and there was zero protective gear involved. And if they biffed and hit their head, it's like, game over, man. Seriously though, like, they were going fast enough that it's like, this is major problem time. And people were talking, oh, my God, you have to have your helmet on. Like, like a really terrible Canadian tire pedal bike back in my day.

[Dan]

Yep.

[Linus Sebastian]

That was not going anywhere near as fast as these kids were going.

[Luke Lafreniere]

No.

[Linus Sebastian]

It's scary and it's a scooter. I believe a lot less in your ability to maintain control over a scooter than a bike. Personally, we've also seen people rip around on bikes, but I have more confidence that they can control it over the scooter thing.

[Dan]

More Dao Winus Wu can wan hello from Iowa. I guess they all talk like that from there. What was the worst time a device broke inexplicably of yours? P.S. hi Mom.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Inexplicable breakage. I don't know about the worst time, but the one that's really grinding my gears right now is the TV in my basement rec room sometimes cannot detect an input from my PC. It will detect other inputs. It will turn on and off if I unplug it from the wall. Not just quickly. If I unplug it from the wall, wait for the caps to drain and plug it back in, it'll work again. And I'm at the point now where I'm considering replacing an entire TV over like an input problem. An input issue which drives me absolutely crazy. That seems like a crazy thing. Especially when all the other inputs work and if I plug a different device into that same input, it will work like all the troubleshooting steps. So I'm focused on the word inexplicable in your message here.

[Linus Sebastian]

This might sound absurd, but do you have like a

[Dan]

switcher.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah, that can just sit in the middle?

[Luke Lafreniere]

Oh, I do have one that could sit in the middle. I don't have one that is sitting in the middle. I might have had concerns about that. I can't remember why I did it the way I did it because all the other devices go through a little bloody hell. Who makes it? There's a little Denon switch or something like that. I can't remember who makes it. And then the PC goes directly into the T writer. It's because it uses the high speed 4K 120 input. And this TV is a little bit older now and not all of them are. I might just get rid of it. It's a 77 inch. They're like 500 bucks now. Like, I think I might just get a different one and I could probably make a video about it anyway. I'll do a short circuit. I will put a TV on the wall. Remember when I used to do that like every two months? That was a weird era for ltt.

[Linus Sebastian]

It was. It was probably also a weird era for your house.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I think it might actually. I think that era might be coming again though, because the, the family room PC is Now like a four year old oled and my family, like, I never really cared about it because I was like, whatever this is, that's where

[Linus Sebastian]

they watch all this stuff.

[Luke Lafreniere]

This is a tertiary TV in the house. It gets. It's used more than the other two combined. So I think I might upgrade it. The new Sony True RGB stuff looks really nice. The LG G6 looks so good. So I might just have to do like a TV roundup just so that I know which one to put there. Like any logical person would do to deploy the media company to find out what the best TV is so that I can make the right choice for my living room and then everyone else will benefit.

[Linus Sebastian]

I was going to say you're theoretically helping all the people.

[Luke Lafreniere]

That's the whole business model.

[Dan]

Yay.

[Luke Lafreniere]

The ltt.

[Dan]

It makes so much sense.

[Linus Sebastian]

We did it.

[Dan]

Now I understand.

[Linus Sebastian]

He said the thing.

[Dan]

He said the name.

[Luke Lafreniere]

He said the name of the show in the show.

[Linus Sebastian]

Dude, he morbed all over that merch message.

[Luke Lafreniere]

And 200 people stopped watching.

[Linus Sebastian]

Community Chat, whatever it's called.

[Luke Lafreniere]

It was nice while Len show existed.

[Linus Sebastian]

What are they again? Comms.

[Dan]

Comms. Checkout message.

[Linus Sebastian]

Why do I have Community stuck in my head?

[Dan]

Sorry, show has a farce like that. Minus. Have you tried turning a Ryzen AI Max 395 into a steam machine yet to test those 8060 graphics?

[Luke Lafreniere]

People keep bringing this up with me.

[Dan]

Gibberish words. No, no, no.

[Luke Lafreniere]

People keep bringing this up. They're like Linus, have you considered that the Framework desktop is actually a better Steam machine than the Steam machine? And I'm like my brother in Christ, the Framework, the Framework desktop, it starts. At a thousand dollars. You're complaining about the. You're complaining about the cost of the Steam Machine.

[Dan]

Is.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Does that even have. Hold on. Does that even have a. Like a RAM and a drive in it yet? Hold on. What am I looking at here?

[Dan]

What am I.

[Luke Lafreniere]

What am I looking at here? So here, hold on. Let's go. Okay, desktop. Here we go. Here we go. Configure now. Okay, so I want to get. You want a 395?

[Linus Sebastian]

I don't even think what is happening.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Okay, you want a 395. Okay, so you got. Yeah, 40 graphics core 16. Core 16 thread max. Supposed to do. Yeah. Okay, so let's go. 64 gigs of RAM. I'm spending $2,000. 2 grand.

[Linus Sebastian]

Try to configure as closely as you can to a Steam machine.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I don't even have any storage yet. I have.

[Linus Sebastian]

Look.

[Luke Lafreniere]

So what I put a one terabyte stupid drive in here. $2,200 reduce.

[Linus Sebastian]

Is there a two terabyte version?

[Luke Lafreniere]

I mean, CPU fan.

[Linus Sebastian]

Choose USD.

[Luke Lafreniere]

What? Bring your own fan. Oh, for crying out loud. Okay, all right, I'll get a.

[Dan]

No, it's morbid time.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yes, morbid. I'm getting a knock to. I refuse to engage with this

[Dan]

one of the fans of all time.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah, yeah. So it's not even. It's not in the same price bracket at.

[Linus Sebastian]

How much is the Steamchine USD?

[Luke Lafreniere]

I'm trying to remember. All the configurations was about 1000 bucks for that. So we're looking at double the price. And don't forget, even though the Steam Machine has kind of anemic dedicated graphics. It has dedicated graphics. And even though the Framework desktop has the most roided out onboard graphics, it's still got onboard graphics. Actually, I do have to confess though, now that you bring it up, I am kind of curious, I would be kind of curious to see how a Framework desktop would compare to the Steam Machine. I think it is faster, but I. I actually don't remember how an 8060s compares to.

[Linus Sebastian]

There's some things like. I don't think it's coming with a controller. I don't know if every Steam Machine comes with a controller.

[Dan]

No, no.

[Linus Sebastian]

Okay.

[Luke Lafreniere]

The controller. You get a discount on adding on a controller, but it's not much.

[Linus Sebastian]

Okay. Because honestly, I would want. Want one of the Steam controllers if I'm doing this setup.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Personally, I would want a Steam controller, but only if I had a Steam machine, if that makes sense. Because to me, the main benefit of the Steam controller is actually not the track pads. I. I don't think I would use them that much, but rather the integration with the Steam machine. So I can turn it on and turn it off and then use CEC and everything can just be done from my couch without.

[Linus Sebastian]

I would still want track pads.

[Luke Lafreniere]

The track pads are pretty cool.

[Linus Sebastian]

So if you're going to do this comparison, which does actually sound kind of fun, I think you would need to include some form of CEC solution and stuff. Now he doesn't want to do it?

[Luke Lafreniere]

Pretty much. Yeah. It's a hassle. It's just such a hassle.

[Linus Sebastian]

That's how it works.

[Dan]

All right. Dll. Love all the Siberia merch so far. What are some future products that may be included in the Siberia lore?

[Linus Sebastian]

Well, you said the. Oh man. What's the code name again? Mountain of Light or Light Peak?

[Dan]

Light.

[Linus Sebastian]

Peak.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Oh yeah.

[Dan]

I gotta ask. I gotta ping.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Lisa about that. Hold on. I'm gonna ask her. Can we add a mountain called Pain

[Linus Sebastian]

in the hassle without the H? I've never heard of that before. That's pretty good.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Okay, schedule send Monday morning. Okay. I think we're doing a map blanket. Don't quote me on that, though.

[Linus Sebastian]

Cool.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah, sure. As for, like, more like a couch

[Linus Sebastian]

blanket kind of deal.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah, yeah. As for, like, more characters, yeah. We've got the percussive maintenance. We've got the cleanup wizard. Oh, man. Was there

[Linus Sebastian]

Pankratz pointed out Monday's a holiday so recently.

[Dan]

Monday's a holiday.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Oh, bloody hell.

[Dan]

I would have come into work.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I had no idea.

[Dan]

Is Monday a holiday? What is going on?

[Linus Sebastian]

I don't remember. I never used to have them all

[Dan]

in my timesheet thing, and then they got rid of that and now it's a real timesheet.

[Linus Sebastian]

I never know the Canadian holidays. She's so bad.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Okay, if anyone from Google is watching, so specifically the bcstat, the Gmail team, I'm in. Like, you've got. In the interface, you've got. I can go to all my scheduled messages, right? I can see all my scheduled messages. I can click my scheduled message. I can see when the scheduled time is. Why is the only option cancel send?

[Linus Sebastian]

Why can't I change it?

[Luke Lafreniere]

Why can't I change it? Please let me change it. That would be wonderful. Thank you very much. So I click cancel Send, and it's like, now. Now I have to go 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6. What the hell is the date? 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12 clicks.

[Linus Sebastian]

No, I do prefer it over teams. That would have been just graphically makes it look like the message was sent.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Wait, did I just schedule. Oh, yeah. No, that did that.

[Dan]

Right?

[Linus Sebastian]

And then you have a panic attack.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah. That's so annoying because I've sent Messages at like 4 in the morning and I'm like, wait, Right. No, it's okay, because I'm not at my best at 4 in the morning. So I could get tricked by it multiple times.

[Dan]

Couple more here. Hey, Dan, Luke and Linus, what is the wildest throwback to an old video you've been hit with?

[Linus Sebastian]

I was reminded by someone at Open Sauce that you and I played with shock collars during a mineral oil build. And I was like, what? He's like, yeah, you did. And I was like, no, I think that was like a channel. Super fun. Around the same time.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Shot it at the exact same time.

[Linus Sebastian]

Apparently we shot it at the same time.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Why relight a different set yeah.

[Dan]

Efficient.

[Linus Sebastian]

I. I don't know that that's the wildest throwback I've ever had. It was very recent, and it was pretty surprising.

[Luke Lafreniere]

But, yeah, it's again, not the wildest throwback, but it was the one that wasted the most of my time recently because YouTube search. I used to be able to find this video pretty easily with YouTube search, but there is a really, really old video of. You know what? I think I. I think I still have it. Send it to Dan. Oops. Not. Bravo, brother. Sammy. Okay, hold on. But Sammy needed. For the, like, family vlog, he needed a video that I referred to that was shot with my brother that was just like him riding down. Riding down a snowy hill. And what am I. Dang it. What am I looking for? I can't find it. Copy URL. I feel like there's so much tension right now. Am I missing something here?

[Linus Sebastian]

We're just thinking about some. Do you want us to do the next merch message while you look for this?

[Luke Lafreniere]

What did you just call me?

[Linus Sebastian]

Then the next checkout message.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Okay. Okay. So here we go. I could not. No, no, I've got it now. I could not find. Oh, wait. Why am I sending this to Dan? I know what the title of the video is now. Okay. YouTube.com.

[Linus Sebastian]

oh, my God.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I had to find this because I referred to it in the family vlog, and Sammy needed the original footage of my little brother. A video like. Like we uploaded to the channel of my little brother sledding down a hill and wiping out. It's always crazy to me, Linus little brother, how people will be like, yeah, LTT used to be good. They had, like, good. They had good videos back in the day. I'm like, no, we had some good videos, but we had some absolute garbage trash videos. So finding this video is, like, ridiculously hard. It used to be really easy to get it to come up, but what are these results? Even Linus tech little brother sledding. He thought his Internet was okay. It's not YouTube. What are you doing? So add the channel, I guess. Sure. Fine. Totally unrelated thing. Another ad. This has nothing to do with. Nothing to do with sledding. That's my son, not my little brother. Here's an ad. Sorry, excuse me. No, that's a mainline video upload about our socks. Okay, Tech house.

[Linus Sebastian]

Boom. Roasted.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Another pathetic attempt at chasing clout. Anniversary stream. My son again. Once again, not my brother. Definitely my son. Zip tie tuning.

[Dan]

What?

[Luke Lafreniere]

Where is this video? Okay, and then you guys are gonna see when I actually do finally manage to bring it up? The only way that I was able to find it was by scrolling infinitely through our video archive until you get back there. So here's what.

[Linus Sebastian]

Like that too.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Here's what it's called. I really gave it. I gave it a good solid chance at this snow ramp. Wipe out my little brother. Linus tech tips.

[Linus Sebastian]

Okay, this is prime era tech tips, dude.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Here it is. So I gave it brother. I gave it Linus tech. What other keyword did I give it? Sledding. Okay, it's not technically sledding. Did I put sledding in the keywords here? No, I did. I put wagon. Snow ramp. Okay, well, whatever. The point is, this is the video and this was the. This was the. The throwback that Sammy made me. Made me find.

[Dan]

Wow.

[Luke Lafreniere]

This is an actual LTT upload.

[Linus Sebastian]

It's so.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Do they have audio? Hold on, Dan, do they have audio? They need the audio.

[Dan]

They. They do not have audio.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Okay, how about. How about now? Hold on. This is worth it. This is worth it.

[Dan]

You'll have to start it again, cuz I'm not getting anything. There we go. Now they have audio. Okay, you don't. Now you do.

[Luke Lafreniere]

That is an actual LTT upload.

[Linus Sebastian]

That's actually awesome. I wonder if I can find a mainline channel.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yep.

[Dan]

For real though, our quality's gone downhill

[Luke Lafreniere]

with the nice solid. This is back when I just got a. I got a small. I got a small bonus per upload and nobody at the company actually watched anything that I uploaded. So I. Yep. So I did things like this more often than you might think. I've got a couple. I've got a couple more for you. This is a mainline LTT video. Oh my God. Nope, no, Audio will not be necessary for this one. Come on. This might actually be post. Oh, no. 16 years ago. Yep. This is pre the company. So here's a mainline ltt.

[Linus Sebastian]

Oh, no.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah, it's a rabbit all right.

[Dan]

I mean, I filmed the same thing. There was a rabbit just outside this door. I asked if it wanted to be on the WAN show and what'd it say? It just left.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Rude. It's very rude, man. Early gift.

[Linus Sebastian]

I know this one. Yep, I knew this one for sure.

[Luke Lafreniere]

My classic purple gecko hat that I wore for many billion years.

[Dan]

We have a time capsule for the Shrinkflation from Toblerone. Oh.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Oh, yeah.

[Linus Sebastian]

Really? It used to be freaking units, dude.

[Dan]

Oh, and they can't. They can't see it Swiss chocolate anymore because they moved all the processing outside of Switzerland and They have a really very important rule for that. Yep.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yes. I unboxed a Toblerone Unique username. Watch your language. What am I doing? Did you see that? What was I doing?

[Dan]

What?

[Luke Lafreniere]

Oh, I think I'm showing it relative to the size of my stomach. Yeah, yeah. Like, could I even eat all this chocolate? Yeah. 750 grams. Look at that. Oh, the nutrition facts. Yvonne. Yvonne was the camera op for this, by the way.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Good job, Yvonne. Focusing on the vitamins. Hold on. Oh, no, no, she had it. She had it.

[Linus Sebastian]

I had it scrolled down.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah, yeah, she did it. She did a good job.

[Dan]

Good focus. Yeah.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Per one piece. Yeah, that was on my old SX1 is, I think. Well, not mine.

[Linus Sebastian]

16 years ago. So that was.

[Dan]

Yep.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah. Okay. Because I was gonna say I. I've seen that. It was right before me, I think.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Dude, I was 25.

[Linus Sebastian]

That's weird. Eh?

[Luke Lafreniere]

I know

[Linus Sebastian]

a fun one for me every once in a blue moon. I will go back to it. I wonder if I can find it. Luke's first video. Oh, there it is. Us reacting to this is old. And at the time that we reacted to it, the video that we're reacting to was also very old.

[Dan]

Jesus.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Oh, man. Hold on here, hold on.

[Dan]

Where is he?

[Luke Lafreniere]

Look at him.

[Dan]

Look at him.

[Luke Lafreniere]

He's a baby.

[Linus Sebastian]

This was filmed. My mom filmed this on a flip HD that I borrowed from a buddy that I worked with at Best Buy.

[Dan]

Nice. Oh, did you do this movie theater 9000 or whatever?

[Linus Sebastian]

It's called Style. Yeah, we did.

[Dan]

Oh, that's great. Yeah, Even there you look. It's like I got triple react young

[Luke Lafreniere]

Luke, young Luke reacts to even younger Luke.

[Dan]

And we can look back at this in 10 years.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah, yeah. Find this clip from the Land show.

[Linus Sebastian]

See, the problem now is I can look back at videos of mine from back then and I question if I could do things like there. I'm laughing because I'm bad now. I look back at certain videos from back then of myself and I'm like, I don't know if I can do that anymore because I've like. I used to actually like host really often and now I don't.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Nah, you could do it.

[Dan]

You'd be fine. Yeah, you just start hosting more. Just out of practice. Come on.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah, you're overthinking.

[Dan]

Come on.

[Luke Lafreniere]

You're overthinking it.

[Dan]

Come on.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Overthinking it. I'm always a player.

[Dan]

Oh, yeah, you work. You got it. You're just self conscious now.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah, it's not as It's. It's definitely. And I know this for sure. It doesn't come as naturally anymore.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Quick, let's give him his confidence back by. By beating him up some more. Come on, Dan, help me.

[Dan]

Yeah, you're.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah. You're so wrong.

[Dan]

You're incorrect about yourself.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Why are you so wrong about yourself?

[Linus Sebastian]

I'm pretty confident in that, actually.

[Luke Lafreniere]

So ignorant.

[Dan]

This is actually supposed to demotivate you and make you.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah.

[Dan]

Bad about you.

[Luke Lafreniere]

No, we're supposed to motivate him more. Get rid of that.

[Dan]

He doesn't.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah, he didn't know.

[Dan]

No, no, no, no, no. He doesn't know that. He doesn't know how good he is.

[Linus Sebastian]

Oh, my God.

[Luke Lafreniere]

This is.

[Dan]

This is now hope.

[Linus Sebastian]

I think I'm pretty realistic about it. I used to do a thing, all do it, but I'm not as good as I used to be.

[Dan]

You're not delusional enough.

[Linus Sebastian]

Oh, my God.

[Dan]

I just need more practice.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

[Dan]

Come on. We believe in you. Don't prove us wrong. We hate being wrong.

[Linus Sebastian]

Dude, speed tapping.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Okay, hit me down.

[Dan]

Last one, I guess is for Luke, so just got another one.

[Linus Sebastian]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. We can do that.

[Dan]

Luke, you briefly mentioned looking into Proton Workspace. ProtonMail business for LTT switch from Microsoft. Google Workspace. Is that something you're exploring or is it lacking something?

[Linus Sebastian]

We are in a gridlock.

[Dan]

Oh.

[Linus Sebastian]

There are a set of departments that if we lose one set of software with, are basically saying that their lives will end and they won't be able to do their jobs. And there's another set of departments that if we lose the other piece of software that we use, say the exact same thing. And we are stuck in this spot where both groups of departments separately think it would effectively cost more to deal with the migration than it would to just keep the service and people who

[Luke Lafreniere]

don't pay for the service.

[Linus Sebastian]

For sure. I've talked to multiple other companies that are stuck in the same spot. Like a lot of them actually.

[Luke Lafreniere]

What's their solution?

[Linus Sebastian]

They're all doing the same.

[Dan]

Same thing.

[Luke Lafreniere]

So they just keep paying.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah.

[Luke Lafreniere]

That's crazy.

[Linus Sebastian]

It is. Some of the situations are even worse than ours because they also have full Slack subscriptions for everyone.

[Dan]

Nice.

[Linus Sebastian]

They just have Slack and teams and Google Workspace for everybody. That's nuts.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Nice. Scrappy. DP says that's how they get you 100.

[Linus Sebastian]

It's just a ton of lock in. Yeah, because like, I mean, if you think about it, if we exited Google Workspace the migration of the drive I dry it would be actually mind blowingly difficult. Oh yeah, like, and like when you migrate drive, you lose all comments on everything they can't migrate over.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Nice.

[Linus Sebastian]

So like we would actually genuinely lose a lot of information.

[Luke Lafreniere]

How is it that we're not using AI to solve that problem?

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah, you know, I mean you might be able to.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Sure. But why is it. But why aren't Microsoft and Google doing it? Yeah, that's my point.

[Linus Sebastian]

And then if we dump Microsoft, there's like a huge amount of authentication stuff and then some things that the, you know, I'm not going to call any specific team names out, but a few teams use that is like rather specific. That would be really problematic for them. And there's some things we can do. We have done something where we, we drew back our subscription tier on Google Workspace to save some money there and there's a couple other plans we can do like little things. It's. This genuinely makes me really sad, but we might kill Slack. A lot of those people are on teams now at this point and it's

[Luke Lafreniere]

just like times are tight. We've got to kill Slack.

[Dan]

Get it?

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah. But unfortunately actually and the program, not the. Yeah.

[Luke Lafreniere]

And to be clear, it's not like, see this is the tough thing, right. Because we could keep paying for Slack. It's not like we're on the verge of bankruptcy or whatever, but it's like at a certain point you just have to look at costs and budgeting and go, well, hold on a second. Is this responsible?

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah.

[Luke Lafreniere]

What can we cut? We.

[Dan]

Yeah, we.

[Luke Lafreniere]

You can't just. It's so easy to end up dying by a thousand cuts if you just subscribe to everything.

[Linus Sebastian]

And realistically, I really hate teams and jumping Slack over to teams.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Which one specifically?

[Linus Sebastian]

Jumping Slack over to teams will suck. But Slack is also a very premium chat program. And yeah, teams is garbage, but we also use it for the entire rest of the company. We can use it for full plane.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah. If I have to put up with it, then yeah, so does everybody.

[Linus Sebastian]

I genuinely think the company would be happier if everyone was on Slack. But Slack is so expensive compared to Team Salesforce, which I cannot get over and I swear I save this every time. That's the biggest fumble Google has like ever done. What is wrong with you? How did they not literally. Slack's logo has the Google colors in it. Like the, the, the like masterpiece combination. In my opinion, back in the day and still kind of now is Google Workspace and Slack. Yeah, it's A wonderful combination. And I know people within Google apparently use chat, which is insane. Okay, that's nuts. I like, I like.

[Dan]

That's why they haven't built a Slack competitor, because they don't know I was communicating.

[Linus Sebastian]

Maybe I was. I was at a YouTube event recently. They were definitely using chat. I hung out with a buddy.

[Dan]

It's true.

[Luke Lafreniere]

It really is real.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yes. I didn't believe it for a long time.

[Luke Lafreniere]

No, yeah, it's real.

[Linus Sebastian]

It's real.

[Dan]

Yep.

[Linus Sebastian]

I know people at Microsoft that use Slack, so I thought it was a thing like. And I mean internally internal teams at Microsoft that use Slack.

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Linus Sebastian]

That's how much teams sucks. So I thought, no, okay, Google must use Slack or whatever else. No, they actually just use chat.

[Luke Lafreniere]

And I don't know, maybe that's something that we have to go to our teams and kind of say like, okay, if Google can be one of the most valuable companies in the world and they can get by with hangouts, maybe we, then maybe we could live with whatever one ecosystem we ultimately decide on. Yeah, I don't know. But to be clear, I haven't had these one on one conversations with people,

[Linus Sebastian]

so I also can't fully do that. A pretty significant amount of the company needs things like desktop Excel. And if you look at how Microsoft does their pricing, by the time you get up to desktop Excel, they know

[Luke Lafreniere]

everything else Excels what everybody wants anyway.

[Linus Sebastian]

And they know they need desktop Excel because web Excel gets included super early on for very cheap.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah, because it sucks.

[Linus Sebastian]

But desktop Excel is like this massive jump. So if like a third of the freaking company uses desktop Excel, then

[Dan]

a

[Linus Sebastian]

third of the company's gonna have teams anyways.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Does a third of the company really need desktop Excel?

[Linus Sebastian]

This is a problem because can the IT team decide if you need something or not?

[Luke Lafreniere]

You could take it away and then

[Linus Sebastian]

see, you want to see the productivity destruction that happens from that. Also the like just rampant hatred.

[Dan]

Remember Linus, do you remember five minutes ago when he said it was going to cost you more to switch than to stay on it?

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah.

[Dan]

Are you starting to understand now how this is cheaper?

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah. Dan goodfotplaychat said working at Google right now can confirm we use Google Chat. I believe you now and that's insane.

[Dan]

Yep.

[Linus Sebastian]

Oh my God. Can you just approach Salesforce and buy freaking Slack and tied in Google workspace and stop being.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I don't think they want to do that. Salesforce bought it for $27 billion. I remember that being huge news at the time because acquisition valuations like I remember everyone freaked out when Amazon bought Twitch for a billion dollars. And then now it's just like, oh, yeah, Twitter's worth $44 billion and a chat app is worth 27 billion.

[Dan]

What are even.

[Luke Lafreniere]

What. What is a. I got a ploy for Google.

[Dan]

I got a ploy for Google. All the programmers use Slack, right? Buy Slack and then use it to train Gemini on how to program because they're all going to be posting about

[Linus Sebastian]

their code in slack, honestly. Yeah, business plus includes SSO. So all the big companies are going here, 9 USD a month for just chat. Hey, Google, just buy it. Apparently you'll make your money back. Everyone uses this because the other ones are terrible. They're so bad. Teams is just like. I don't know. It's like, do you want to. Do you want to cut off your legs so you can afford Slack? Do you want to slowly poison yourself? And then it's like, okay, I guess I'll slowly poison myself because Teams is that bad.

[Dan]

I don't know.

[Luke Lafreniere]

There's something to be said for cutting off a leg.

[Dan]

Save on shoes.

[Luke Lafreniere]

And now we're going to save on you guys needing to continue watching the WAN show. That's it for this week, guys. Thank you so much for tuning in, all of y'.

[Dan]

All.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I can't believe how many people tuned into the WAN show this week. We. I don't actually understand what changed or what's different, but, hey, welcome to the new channel. If you guys haven't subscribed already, WAN show is on a new channel. You may not have even noticed because it might have just popped up in your YouTube recommended. So make sure you subscribe. We'll see you again next week. Same bad time, same bad channel.

[Linus Sebastian]

Thank you. Bye,

[Luke Lafreniere]

Sam.