Windows Is Cooked For Gaming - WAN Show May 30, 2025

Summary

Summary of "Windows Is Cooked For Gaming - WAN Show May 30, 2025"

Release Date: May 31, 2025

Hosts: Linus Sebastian and Luke Lafreniere

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1. Introduction to Current Tech Issues

The episode opens with Luke Lafreniere introducing the week's topics, highlighting recent challenges with Windows for handheld gaming and a new age verification law in Texas affecting major app stores.

Luke Lafreniere [00:31]: "Microsoft. It has been found that Windows might not be great for handheld gaming. Also some other stuff going on with them."

2. Windows Setup Woes

Linus Sebastian and Luke delve into the increasingly frustrating experience of setting up Windows devices. They reminisce about the user-friendly setups of the late 2000s, contrasting them with today's complicated installation processes.

Linus Sebastian [03:00]: "Windows device setup is horrible."

Luke Lafreniere [03:22]: "I remember like, I don't know, late 2000s, new device setup. Honestly, MacBook or Windows was like kind of a cool experience and now it just sucks."

3. Performance Comparison: Windows 11 vs. SteamOS

A significant portion of the discussion centers on the comparative performance of identical Legion Go S devices running Windows 11 and SteamOS. Referencing forthcoming videos by Dave2D and Random Gaming HD, they reveal that SteamOS often outperforms Windows in gaming benchmarks.

Luke Lafreniere [03:48]: "Dave2D compared two identical Legion Go S's, one with Windows 11 and the other with SteamOS. The SteamOS version outperformed its Windows counterpart by, I gotta say, a shocking amount."

They note that SteamOS not only offers better performance but also reduces retail costs by eliminating the Windows OS overhead.

Luke Lafreniere [04:50]: "Not to mention that on the SteamOS version of the Legion Go S, you're not paying for Windows, so it's over $100 cheaper at retail, according to his video."

4. Microsoft's Struggles with Windows Gaming Optimization

The hosts express skepticism about Microsoft's ability to streamline Windows for an optimal gaming experience, citing past failures like the initial Gaming Mode and subsequent iterations that have not resolved core issues.

Linus Sebastian [06:25]: "My lack of enthusiasm for this I think is based around like practically every time that they've tried to touch it, they've just either done nothing or made it worse."

They discuss Microsoft's temporary sidelining of their rumored Xbox handheld device to focus on Windows 11 for gaming, emphasizing ongoing challenges in driver quality and system overhead.

Luke Lafreniere [05:34]: "Their cloud gaming device and ROG Ally 2 collab seem to be unaffected. This is, I don't know, good news."

5. Battery Life and Gaming Performance

Battery efficiency is another critical point, with SteamOS demonstrating superior performance during less demanding gaming scenarios compared to Windows, which suffers from high power consumption even during full load tests.

Luke Lafreniere [12:25]: "The battery life when you're running like lower, less demanding like, like side scroller type games, Steam OS absolutely steamrolls Windows, like to a degree that I wouldn't have thought was possible."

Linus shares a personal anecdote about poor battery performance while gaming on Windows during a long flight, underscoring the practical drawbacks of the current Windows setup.

Linus Sebastian [12:47]: "Windows battery life is so bad."

6. Texas Age Verification Law

Shifting focus, the hosts discuss the newly signed Texas age verification law requiring companies like Apple and Google to verify user ages for app store access. They critique the legislation for its impractical implementation timeframe and potential privacy concerns.

Linus Sebastian [61:54]: "How do you verify kids without verifying everyone? Yeah, that's not healthy either."

Luke Lafreniere [62:36]: "I would even you know I would be open to something like the equivalent of ESRB for apps."

They argue that enforcing such a law could create a "honey pot" scenario in Texas, leading to widespread identity verification issues and potential data security risks.

Luke Lafreniere [65:12]: "And everything's bigger in Texas, so. Dude, it's true though."

7. Experiences in China

Linus shares his recent trip to China, highlighting the intense surveillance and logistical challenges encountered, such as overpriced laundry services and pervasive state monitoring. These anecdotes serve to illustrate broader themes of privacy and user experience in different technological ecosystems.

Linus Sebastian [83:10]: "So I left the hotel to do this at like 11:30. I didn't get back to the hotel until like 3."

8. Merchandise and Community Engagement

Throughout the episode, the hosts promote their merchandise, including mystery items and new apparel colors. They explain the concept of "merch messages," encouraging listeners to support the show through purchases that also facilitate community interaction.

Luke Lafreniere [31:51]: "Mystery T shirts, mystery hoodies, and mystery screwdrivers are available for as little as... That's not even real money."

9. Conclusion and Future Topics

The episode concludes with a brief look ahead to upcoming topics, including deeper dives into SteamOS challenges and potential future switch-over challenges for the hosts. They also touch on personal updates and respond to community questions, maintaining an engaging and interactive atmosphere.

Linus Sebastian [60:03]: "What are we doing right now?"

Luke Lafreniere [60:29]: "Yeah, I want to do it again. I want to do another one."

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Notable Quotes:

• Luke Lafreniere [03:48]: "SteamOS outperformed its Windows counterpart by, I gotta say, a shocking amount."

• Linus Sebastian [06:25]: "They've just either done nothing or made it worse."

• Luke Lafreniere [12:25]: "Steam OS absolutely steamrolls Windows, like to a degree that I wouldn't have thought was possible."

• Luke Lafreniere [62:36]: "I would even you know I would be open to something like the equivalent of ESRB for apps."

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Key Takeaways:

1. Windows Gaming Challenges: Current iterations of Windows, particularly Windows 11, are fraught with setup complexities, performance inefficiencies, and inadequate driver support, making it a less optimal platform for gaming compared to alternatives like SteamOS.

2. SteamOS Advantage: SteamOS offers superior gaming performance and better battery efficiency on comparable hardware, presenting a compelling alternative for gamers seeking streamlined experiences without the overhead of Windows.

3. Microsoft's Optimization Efforts Fall Short: Despite Microsoft’s attempts to refine Windows for gaming, historical failures in previous optimization features suggest ongoing struggles to meet gamers' needs effectively.

4. Privacy and Regulation Concerns: The Texas age verification law poses significant privacy risks and practical implementation challenges, raising questions about the feasibility and security of such regulatory measures.

5. Global Tech Ecosystem Insights: Personal experiences in China underscore the broader implications of surveillance and user experience differences across global tech ecosystems.

6. Community and Monetization: The show's approach to monetization through merchandise and community engagement highlights the evolving landscape of creator support and audience interaction.

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This comprehensive summary encapsulates the main discussions and insights from the episode, providing a clear overview for those who haven't listened while preserving the essence and key points raised by the hosts.

Transcript

[Linus Sebastian]

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[Luke Lafreniere]

Oh, what's up everyone and welcome to the WAN show. We got a great show lined up for you guys this week. Microsoft. It has been found that Windows might not be great for handheld gaming. Also some other stuff going on with them. Here's another one. In Texas, there's an age verification law that will require companies like Apple and Google to verify the ages of users in order for them to use their app store. Wow. Super cool idea. In theory. How's this gonna work in practice? We have no idea what else we got this week.

[Linus Sebastian]

Tariffs. Cause why not? Also, we're gonna talk about some off topic stuff. I went to China and it was genuinely very interesting.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Sorry, you went.

[Linus Sebastian]

Kind of terrifying, but not for the reasons you would think. China?

[Luke Lafreniere]

I never heard of it. Oh, oh, you mean China.

[Linus Sebastian]

China.

[Luke Lafreniere]

The show is brought to you today by Seasonic Proton. Is that Enable or Enable?

[Linus Sebastian]

I'm pretty sure it's Enable.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Enable. Oh, that makes way more sense. Cool. And of course by our laptop partner, Dell, our rap partner dbrand, and our chair partner, secretlab. All right, why don't we jump right into kind of part of our headline topic. Microsoft has just been stepping and do do on the Windows side of things pretty much left and right lately. They've, they had their whole fiasco with Recall last year, which they've just kept Windows. We've, we've got a video coming soon comparing original recall and new recall and it is better, but is still deeply. It's still a recall deeply problematic.

[Linus Sebastian]

Nice.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Windows has just felt like such a bloated mess lately. Dude. I had to go through the initial setup wizard recently and it's just like, can I just use my computer? Can you just. You don't need to know if I need it for entertainment or media or gay. I mean all of it just move.

[Linus Sebastian]

Windows device setup is horrible.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Get out of the way.

[Linus Sebastian]

It's actually terrible.

[Luke Lafreniere]

None of this matters.

[Linus Sebastian]

I remember like, I don't know, late 2000s, new device setup. Honestly, MacBook or Windows was like kind of a cool experience and now it Just sucks. I don't know about MacBook, I haven't done it in a long time, but the Windows laptop setup is terrible.

[Luke Lafreniere]

And then meanwhile, Dave 2D compared two identical Legion Go S's, one with Windows 11 and the other with SteamOS. The SteamOS version outperformed its Windows counterpart by, I gotta say, a shocking amount. Like I remember, remember not that long ago when Windows consistently was faster than Linux for gaming.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah, yeah.

[Luke Lafreniere]

That is no longer the case. Spider Man 2 out of Cyberpunk. You guys are gonna have to go check out the video if you want the exact Numbers, because it's Dave2D's numbers. But out of Cyberpunk, Helldivers 2, Doom, Eternal, Spider Man 2 and Witcher 3. Only one of them was a win for Windows 11 compared to SteamOS and just barely. Like I am talking by like, like run to run variance. One frame per second difference. And this is in spite of the fact that we're dealing with the Proton compatibility layer. Like that is mind blowing. That's how far Linux drivers have come and that's how much less overhead SteamOS offers compared to Windows. Not to mention that on the SteamOS version of the Legion Go S, you're not paying for Windows, so it's over $100 cheaper at retail, according to his video. We also saw a similar performance delta in a video From Random Gaming HD's video comparing an identical system running both Windows 10 and Steam OS. So in this case it was a desktop system with a 12 400F processor, 16 gigs of RAM, 6500 XT GPU, and a 256 gig NVMe SSD. SteamOS once again won, this time in shadow of the Tomb Raider Black Myth. Wukong and Forza Horizon 4 CS2 was a win for Windows, but I mean, SteamOS got over 150 FPS, so it's not like it's really an issue anyway. Meanwhile, in other Windows gaming news, Microsoft is apparently temporarily sidelining their rumored Xbox Handheld gaming device to focus on optimizing the Windows 11 gaming experience, especially for mobile devices.

[Linus Sebastian]

Good luck with that.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Their cloud gaming device and ROG Ally 2 collab seem to be unaffected. This is, I don't know, good news. I don't know what it is because on the one hand, it's not like Microsoft clearly is incapable of building a streamlined, low overhead operating system for gaming. Literally, that's what runs on the Xbox. But whether Windows has just gotten too bloated or whether they've been unfocused, or whether their Partners are not delivering on the driver quality that they need and they're maybe, yeah, probably not that as much. It's clear that Windows Gaming has got like. They just, they can't figure it out, can they?

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah. My lack of enthusiasm for this I think is based around like practically every time that they've tried to touch it, they've just either done nothing or made it worse. As far as my understanding goes, they've.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Done some cool stuff.

[Linus Sebastian]

I mean remember Gaming Mode was worse if you remember.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I'm not talking about gaming mode, but remember Vista had that like.

[Linus Sebastian]

Dude, okay, when's the Windsor launch date of Vista, bro?

[Luke Lafreniere]

I'm just saying, I'm just saying.

[Linus Sebastian]

1-30-2007.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Okay. In Vista it's been almost 20 years. In Vista there was a My games folder that consolidated the location of all your game like config files and save files and everything. I remember that this is back before Cloud save was just a thing you could take for granted in every game. And it was super useful because when you reformat it or whatever, you could just grab that folder, make sure you back it up and dump it into that folder again on the new system. Except for the games that didn't put their stuff in there, those ones you had to go hunting for. So it still kind of sucked. But yeah, Microsoft just can't. I mean games for Windows Live seemed well intentioned what happened to that folder, but was horrible. Yeah, the folder went away. Games for Windows Live went away. That one we're happy about.

[Linus Sebastian]

We're stoked on that one.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah, we're pretty stoked.

[Linus Sebastian]

Except it didn't fully go away, did it?

[Luke Lafreniere]

I mean mostly.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah. The ways that it was bad back then are gone but they still have their like Microsoft login which is.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Oh yeah, horrible.

[Linus Sebastian]

You were talking the other day about how it just like it makes you re log in or something.

[Luke Lafreniere]

So. No, what happens is, and I don't know if it's specific to Minecraft Dungeons or something but because we would often go months between playing it, my kids and I like played Minecraft Dungeons for a bit. It's a Diablo clone, it's Minecraft skinned. Anyway, it's kind of fun. So we'd go sometimes months between playing. So I would have to log in four accounts and for some reason mine was bugged so that if, and of course your password manager doesn't work properly with like a pop up inside a game.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah.

[Luke Lafreniere]

So sometimes the game would get bugged so the prompt like wouldn't show up in the popup and you'd have to like go delete some config file to get it to show up. And then when it would show up for some reason, something to do with my account, whether it's because it's like an LMG account or whether it's because it's like a parent account or something, I don't know. But if I typo my password, that's it. I have to reset my password. There's no, like, go back and try again. Nothing. It immediately goes, you need to reset your password.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah.

[Luke Lafreniere]

If I enter it wrong one time.

[Linus Sebastian]

I enter passwords wrong.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Well, yeah, because my passwords are long and have special characters and stuff. So I'm at the point now where when I enter my Microsoft password, I'm like finger peck to make sure that I get it right. Because I don't mind changing my passwords once in a while. It's a good security practice. What I don't like is changing my passwords all the time, especially when they're ones that I use every day. And I do kind of try to memorize because it's more convenient than unlocking my phone and then open the app and then authenticate the app and then navigate to the. I hate password managers. So where were we going with this? Right, yeah. Gaming on. Gaming on Windows is an absolute dumpster fire, dude. The fact that, like, the fact that it takes like 10 minutes to go from. From like first opening the game to actually driving a car in Forza is.

[Linus Sebastian]

I was just gonna bring up. I was just gonna bring up Forza because I actually really, really liked Horizon 5. And it's the first racing game in a very long time that I was like, I want my friends to come play this with me. I convinced one person to buy the game and play with me. I am very lucky that they had a great time with the game single player, because playing with them, multiplayer just didn't work. And I just stopped recommending the game to all my friends because I was like, we can't play together anyways. So they'll either find it themselves or whatever, I guess. And it was purely because of, like, Microsoft's junk matchmaking and login stuff. You try to play Halo, you launch on Steve, everything's fine, Everything's fine. You're selling plump login well, cool. Invite people to party. Maybe they don't show up. Things don't work. Like, a huge percentage things are working.

[Luke Lafreniere]

But, like, you can't see the avatar. And we all know that seeing the avatar is the Whole point anyway. So they can sell more skins. Yeah. So get it right. Microsoft.

[Linus Sebastian]

How does that part not work? I don't know.

[Luke Lafreniere]

It's to be clear, I'm rooting for Microsoft to fix this. Like I'm super into it. Competition is good. I don't want, I don't want a Steam OS monopoly in gaming any more than I want a Windows monopoly in gaming. Yeah, that's not healthy either. I want this fixed, especially because there's always going to be edge cases that proton compatibility layer can't fix. You know, older games or whatever the case may be. Like I want Windows to be a robust gaming platform. I just, I'm starting to lose hope. And this is interesting. The battery life testing was fascinating. Dave's video is called Windows was the problem all along. And the full load test are not that, not that interesting. You know, the battery life when you're, when you're really running everything full tilt, relatively similar. I mean not the same, you know, not the same at all, but relatively, at least within the same sort of Windows still areas. But when you're running like lower, less demanding like, like side scroller type games, Steam OS absolutely steamrolls Windows, like to a degree that I wouldn't have thought was possible.

[Linus Sebastian]

We'll get more into it when we get to that actual section. But I was playing Final Fantasy 6 on my laptop on the plane and I was very lucky that it had a like full fat power plug on the plane because it was not going to last me very long. And I'm playing Final Fantasy 6, dude. Like, come on, Windows battery life is so bad.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Like you could, you could run that game on a watch easily these days.

[Linus Sebastian]

Come on.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Oh man. I had my, I had my own issues traveling and gaming on Windows. I'm finally. Okay, this should give you some idea of how deep my game backlog is. I'm, I finally picked up Psychonauts 2.

[Linus Sebastian]

Oh yeah, that's been a bit.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah, it's been a bit. Anyway, the point is I bought it back when it came out so. Ah man, what's, what's Schaefer's company called again? Whatever. I don't know his developer. So they, they got my money, you know, so I, I, I supported the game. I loved Psychonauts 1. It was awesome. Anyway, so I'm, I'm finally, I finally picked it up and my laptop was running it. Great. This thing has I think like a 4070 or something like that in it. Like pretty powerful GPU, you know, considering the, the thinness and the flexible form factor. So I've got it all like set up in front of me and like mode. And I decided, and I regret this, but I decided when I was holding my. My ally and my laptop and a controller, I was like, I have to bring my laptop anyway, so why don't I just game on my laptop? Yeah, yeah, why bother? They both support my external GPU thing with the 4080 or 4090 or whatever in it. The XG Mobile. So why wouldn't I just bring my laptop? That ended up not working out great at all. So first of all, when I tried to use my XG Mobile, I tripped the breaker on the airplane plug. So I wasn't able to use my external GPU anyway because I guess it draws too much power. So that was irritating.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah, my laptop's pretty low power.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yep. But that's fine because I actually have a decent GPU on this thing anyway. But then when I wanted to, so I was able to pair my controller, everything, that was fine. But this is hilarious. I was on the plane, WI Fi, and I guess we were flying China Air because we were going over to Taiwan and somehow the game. Okay, I don't know how this happened. Okay, I have no idea. But I. I am guessing that somehow the network that I was connected to picked up my time zone or location or something and somehow the game picked that up. And I was speeding through the initial setup menus and I accidentally selected Chinese for the language of the game, which normally wouldn't be that big of a deal. But seriously, Google this. I'm not imagining it. Psychonauts2Buries the language configuration in the accessibility menu.

[Linus Sebastian]

Accessibility menu?

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah, instead of just having it like.

[Linus Sebastian]

Kind of obvious, usually it's pretty early.

[Luke Lafreniere]

If you're fighting your way to try to change the bloody language. And because my phone wasn't actually connected to the Internet, I couldn't just use Lens to translate it unless I bought another stupid WI FI flight pass because they figured out. They figured out my trick. So I had this hack that I used to use on airplanes to share one WI FI access across all my devices. Windows is actually super cool. Supports mobile hotspotting from WI FI to WI Fi. So lots of other devices support being connected to a landline and then sharing and tethering over Wi Fi or being on 5G and tethering over Wi Fi or whatever. But Windows supports sharing a WI FI connection. Oh, I'm going to get to that. Top Gear. So anyway, somehow they've. They've kind of figured that out, I guess. And they've done something with the WI fi connection on most of the flights that I've been on recently that makes Windows think you're not connected. So the little globe in the corner is all like, nope, you're not connected. And then that grays out the mobile hotspot sharing thing. You can't force it, even though your connection totally works. And I couldn't find. I looked up guides and I wasted most of. Not most of, but I wasted a bunch of my expensive flight pass WI fi trying to figure out how to bypass the blocks that they had on my expensive flight pass WI fi. If anyone knows how to fix that, I'd be super open to it. Anyway, what did Top Gear say? Oh shoot, I lost the comment I was going to get to. Oh yeah, Top Gear says change the config file in Psychonauts doesn't work. So they have a guide that I googled and found that if you want to change it to, I think it's French or German or something like that, you go in the config file and you just put language that. And then it will change to that language. But it doesn't appear to work for English because I guess the assumption is just that it was already English and you were trying to change it to I. I don't know. But it didn't work. So anyway, I eventually managed to change it and I was gaming and then the lights on the plane went out because it was like nighttime, time to sleep. And I went to adjust the brightness of my screen. And for some reason, whether it's because I'm using a third party application now instead of Armory Crate on this thing, like it's. I forget what it's called, but it's super cool. Basically. It takes all of the nightmare of Armory Crate and boils it down to this tiny little interface here, Let me see if I can find it. Is this it? Nope. Yeah, here it is. G Helper. That's what it's called. So there. It takes all of Armory Crate. No, right now takes all of Armory Crate and makes it this, which is awesome. And like Armory Crate with the XG mobile, the external GPU will sometimes get bugged and you'll like plug it in, but it won't prompt you to activate it. Or like it's plugged in and it won't prompt you to deactivate it. And like, it's not safe to. I literally bricked a mobile GPU that. Remember when you tripped on it and it unplugged the mobile gpu, if you unplug it, expectedly, I think that one literally died because I never got it working again. So it really matters. So anyway, this lets you just override it. It just has a button and you'd be like XG Mobile. And it always works. So I don't know if it's because of this or because of something else, but I can't adjust my brightness when it's plugged in. So in the dark of the plane, I have like the power of the sun beaming into my eyes. And then if I wanted to try to game on battery, dude, I'd have. I'd have gotten less than an hour for sure. Like less than an hour out of this thing. If I was actually trying to play a full fat 3D game, maybe. Okay, maybe more than an hour. But like this is like a 10 hour flight. So I was like, well, I have nothing but bad options. I wish I just brought my stupid handheld. I forget what we were supposed to be talking about.

[Linus Sebastian]

I think we're just complaining about Windows.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Oh, yeah. So that. Well, well then I was doing great. Good job, Linus.

[Linus Sebastian]

I will also bundle in that complaining about Windows means kind of complaining about the state of Windows laptops because that's sort of what you're doing right now. And I will re bring up the. What I now know is probably called screen locking. The screen locking problem that I had with my laptop.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Someone on the subreddit said it might be to do with like your attention. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. This.

[Linus Sebastian]

I haven't had a chance to actually do this because this was uploaded like I was in the air by the time this was posted. So I haven't had a chance to do it. But this makes so much sense.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah. So this is.

[Linus Sebastian]

I just believe it's it.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah, this is a thing where like, if you look away from the laptop, it blanks the screen.

[Linus Sebastian]

But here's my problem. Yeah, I just think it basically doesn't work at all. That's my current stance on it. Because it can be daytime and I'm staring right at it and it will just lock. It can be nighttime and I have something covering the webcam and it'll work just fine for like an hour and then randomly lock.

[Luke Lafreniere]

It's a fine line, dude. Because as a company like Microsoft, right, you have to give your partners room to differentiate their products. Otherwise you, you might as well be Apple. Right. You end up with no innovation, you.

[Linus Sebastian]

Lose your, your special, but you also.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Have to just like keep the leash at a reasonable length. Because they're just gonna do dumb.

[Linus Sebastian]

So stupid. And my biggest problem with this is it doesn't tell you at all, right? Like, if, you know, I slept, the computer woke it back up so that I could actually use it again, and then there was like a little ba dun and in the corner it was like, by the way, that was us.

[Luke Lafreniere]

But then you would want that to happen every time.

[Linus Sebastian]

I could turn this off if I want to. I could also, at that point in time, say, don't never prompt me about this again. But it would be really sick if it told me at least one time, because, again, I haven't had time to change this setting. I pretty much guarantee you this is the actual problem. So, like, no, I haven't tested it, but it makes so much sense. This would be it. Especially because I ran into the hardware Canucks guys while I was at Computex.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Oh, yeah.

[Linus Sebastian]

And one of them told me that they saw that bit on the show. They have a very similar version of a Lenovo laptop and have the exact same problem.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Okay, so it's probably that then. Yes, probably the screen lock.

[Linus Sebastian]

So now I have to go around and, like, tell everyone that I know that has this laptop, and a bunch of people have reached out, being like, yeah, I have the same stupid problem. I thought about returning it. Blah, blah, blah, blah. It's like Lenovo. Do you understand? Like, everyone thinks you suck and it's just a software setting. Like, people think your laptops suck and are broken, and that's not even the case. Outside of that, I love that laptop.

[Luke Lafreniere]

The amount of product problems that are caused seemingly by just nobody at the company actually using the product is mind blowing.

[Linus Sebastian]

It has to be the case here. It's mind blowing or it's a problem where you have a overly informed expert.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah, yeah. Or that.

[Linus Sebastian]

Where they know what this is like, so they just deal with it.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yvonne is doing an iPhone challenge right now, so she just switched over to iPhone. And getting WhatsApp backed up and migrated between Android and iOS is, like, inexcusably broken. The fact that that has. So she lost a bunch of message history. I lost a bunch of message history, even though I mostly know what I'm doing. Like, it can say. It will say you backed up to your. It'll tell you what Google account it's backed up to, and then you go to restore it, and it's like missing a bunch of stuff because there's like, a specific way you have to do it when you're migrating between devices where you have to scan the QR code. So I. Well, I didn't really screw up because the QR code was there and I was trying to scan it, but the camera was like blurry and there was no alternative. You have to scan the QR code. There's no other way. And then I wasn't able to do it. So I lost like four months of my message history because that part wasn't like backed up on that phone yet or something. And it had to restore from one other thing and their backups are just broken. It's infuriating. Cara Karoto. Don't worry about my tennis elbow. I am. I am intentionally moving it. I'm not doing anything in weird positions. I'm okay. And this is just like a massage thing. It's fine.

[Linus Sebastian]

He's. He's all right.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah.

[Linus Sebastian]

That made me think of something else I want to bring up, but I'm not gonna tangent us at this time, so I just add the note for later.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Hurts, but it's. It's. It's stronger. All right, what are we supposed to do?

[Linus Sebastian]

Any more Windows complaining to do?

[Luke Lafreniere]

No, I'm ready to. I'm ready to move on. I'm ready to move on from Windows in general. If it wasn't for anti cheat and just like application compatibility lock in, I. I don't see why I would use it anymore.

[Linus Sebastian]

If I could get away from multiple games that I play only working on Windows and like genuinely right now, if I could get away from that, I would switch on my personal computer.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Maybe it's time for a Windows or excuse me, a Linux challenge again.

[Linus Sebastian]

Another one.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Maybe it's time. I've been, I've been telling. I keep telling myself I'm gonna wait for Steam os, you know, like the Broad. And it's coming like they have an installer that is now validated for non Valve handhelds and it does work on desktops. As long as you've got a compatible desktop, which I kind of. I kind of do actually. I think I like a 79.

[Linus Sebastian]

Does SteamOS actually 7950X offer anything uniquely?

[Luke Lafreniere]

Does it. What? Sorry?

[Linus Sebastian]

Does it offer anything uniquely?

[Luke Lafreniere]

It offers being ready to go, which.

[Linus Sebastian]

So you can still install like the, like there's no special sauce just for steamos in relation to like Proton or anything like that?

[Luke Lafreniere]

Not that I'm aware of, no. No, you should be able to have the full SteamOS experience on something else pretty much as long as you're willing to kind of configure it a little.

[Linus Sebastian]

But yeah, I don't think it needs much.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I feel like I don't want to do that.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah. And that's fine. We used different distros last year.

[Luke Lafreniere]

We totally did.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah. I'm just, I was trying to evaluate for myself basically, do I just want to use Mint again? Because like that's what I would want to do.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Right.

[Linus Sebastian]

But then I want the best possible gaming setup. So like can I still do that on Mint?

[Luke Lafreniere]

You should be able to. And like realistically you have more software troubleshooting capabilities than I do. So I would definitely lean toward the more set and forget ready to go. Linux distro I'm also like, I don't.

[Linus Sebastian]

Know how this works but even with like a six year gap between using Mint, it like immediately felt familiar again. So like I kind of want to go back to that thing.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah.

[Linus Sebastian]

Like however way, whatever way they've done it, Mint just like feels really good to me.

[Luke Lafreniere]

And what's nice about using a full desktop distro that's intended for that use case is that you're not going to be limited by some of the of things that are not that way about steamos. Like steamos to my knowledge still doesn't have baked in printer support.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah. Like I wonder if you're going to be running into like your, your aversion to wanting to set up things for gaming. I wonder if it's going to set you up for failure in other ways.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah, could very well be. Admittedly I didn't spend a long time but I probably burned about half an hour trying to like install printer support on SteamOS because we were trying to use an ancient printer and we couldn't find a Windows driver that worked. I was like, right, Linux, what's the closest Linux machine that I have? A Steam deck. I'll just plug it into a Steam deck. Yeah, yeah, totally didn't work.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah. Someone in full plane chat said doing it on. I don't know what they mean by it, but I'm assuming they mean like Proton stuff. Doing it on Mint for the last three months. Super easy so far. Hell yeah. Mint got way popular somewhat recently because PewDiePie did his Linux switched Linux switched thing and he chose Mint the OG influencer.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Just casually influencing people randomly doing a Linux switch. The system works.

[Linus Sebastian]

I didn't see it coming.

[Luke Lafreniere]

But no, I mean I know he's into tech like because he's, he's referenced us like quite a few times over the years. I don't know. He's. He's a funny character because he's on the one hand, like one of the most, most, you know, recognizable Internet personalities ever. And then on the other hand, he seems to be like kind of a recluse.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Like he apparently goes out of his way. I don't know this from him personally because of the thing I'm about to say, but he apparently goes out of his way to like not make new connections. Which, you know, honestly at this point I kind of get it.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah, yeah, I know, I know. He just likes Japan a lot. But I know a significant part of the reason why he moved there was because he just doesn't really get recognized that often.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Well, yeah, because I. I think generally speaking they are not as obsessed with our cultural icons as we are with theirs.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah, there are. I don't know what they're called, but there's like, you know, opposite of a Weeb. Yeah, they're into cowboys.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Shut up.

[Linus Sebastian]

No, 100%. Do you know about this?

[Luke Lafreniere]

I think so, yeah.

[Linus Sebastian]

This is totally a thing. This is totally a thing.

[Luke Lafreniere]

What's the opposite of a Weeb? The opposite of weeb. A derogatory term for someone with an extreme obsession with Japanese culture can be understood in a few ways. Oh, wait, a Japanophobe. No, that's not what we're talking about. Westaboo.

[Linus Sebastian]

Is that what it's called? Is that what it's called? It might be what it's called.

[Luke Lafreniere]

What's. This is from R. What's the word? What you're looking for is Westaboo. There's no. There's no way it's called Westaboo.

[Linus Sebastian]

It might be.

[Luke Lafreniere]

No way. Howdy. My name is Rawhide koko. I'm a 27 year old Japanese Jap American western culture fan. For you foreigners. I brand and wrangle cattle on my ranch. There's no way there's. This is not real. It has to be a copy past AI. Yeah.

[Dan]

My God.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Westaboo sounds legit. Westaboo it is. Okay, I think we should probably move on.

[Linus Sebastian]

I don't think this is the thing. I swear.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I don't think we're going anywhere positive with this.

[Linus Sebastian]

I swear it's a thing.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Don't make me start doing announcements.

[Linus Sebastian]

I found a video Cowboy Tanaka. Okay, well, I don't want to here.

[Luke Lafreniere]

An anti weave of sorts of.

[Linus Sebastian]

They're cosplaying as cowboys. Hell yeah, dude.

[Dan]

I can't tell who I think less of.

[Luke Lafreniere]

No one. We don't judge anybody. Yeah, Dan, myself. How many of them are there?

[Linus Sebastian]

There's so many, dude. He's gonna Regret that screw up for his. Oh, wow. He's got the one of those super old school scopes and everything.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Oh, my goodness.

[Linus Sebastian]

Oh, now they're cosplaying. Getting shot. Yo, that guy totally sold it.

[Dan]

This is kind of cool.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I mean, it's got the chaps. Okay.

[Linus Sebastian]

Oh, that guy went for it.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I took it off the screen. I think that's enough of that.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah, well, there was that one time where I watched. What was it? Croquet Competitive croquet on stream.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Now I'm watching cowboy competitive western cosplay in Japan. Okay, why don't we explain merch messages? We don't really do super chats or twitch bits. We do merch messages. They are the way to throw money at your screen for streamers. But also, hey, maybe like, I don't know, get something in return. All you got to do is go to lttstore.com, add something to your cart, and boom, you're gonna see a little box that pops up and prompts you to leave a merch message. It'll go to producer Dan, who will reply to it or forward it or curate it for me and Luke. And there are some pretty cool things that you could add to your cart this year. Dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun. Mystery items are back available for a limited time. Mystery T shirts, mystery hoodies, and mystery screwdrivers are available for as little as. What's that?

[Linus Sebastian]

What the heck?

[Luke Lafreniere]

1799 Canadian for a mystery shirt. 49.99 Canadian. That's not even real money. I mean, it's real money, but 59.99 Canadian for a mystery screwdriver? That's right. My friends. These are actually really low prices. You're welcome.

[Linus Sebastian]

I guess American costs. There you go.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Oh, you've got USD.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yep.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Very nice.

[Linus Sebastian]

Back to Linuses.

[Luke Lafreniere]

So, yeah, US$50 for mystery screwdrivers. Hold on. Can we go back to. Yep, yep. 40 US dollars for mystery hoodies. And I believe we actually specify what the ones could be. Nope.

[Linus Sebastian]

No, we don't.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Random.

[Linus Sebastian]

He takes it back. We do on the screwdriver.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Sure. We recommend one purchase per customer. If you order more than one hoodie, you may get two or more with the same design. Yeah, we could be. Okay, we apparently are not saying we.

[Linus Sebastian]

Didn'T for the T shirt and the sweater because there's probably a wider variety of them. The screwdriver, there's two, and they're both similar.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I actually don't know if that's true. One moment, please. I don't think the Screwdriver. One is correct, because I believe all of at least one of the screwdriver, the noctua colorways, is out of stock. Oh, what? Did. What just happened? Did Nick just hang up on me? I mean, I wouldn't blame him.

[Linus Sebastian]

Based.

[Dan]

Beat me to it.

[Luke Lafreniere]

That's not like seconds. That is not based.

[Dan]

It is.

[Linus Sebastian]

Oh, thanks.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Hey, you're live on the Wan show. Question for you, good sir. Hello? Are you there?

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah. Can you not hear me?

[Luke Lafreniere]

Oh, yeah, I can hear you now. That's perfect. Wonderful. It's loud and clear. Question for you. It says that the mystery screwdrivers are either Noctua beige or Noctua brown, but I thought they were something else. I thought they were a thing we talked about today.

[Linus Sebastian]

No, that's not for today. That's for down the line.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Oh, okay. So different thing.

[Linus Sebastian]

Different thing.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Oh, okay. Do we actually have Knoxwood beige and Knoxwood brown?

[Linus Sebastian]

We have some kicking around. I don't think there's too many, so if people want to get a deal, they should probably jump on it. But, yeah, we have a few left.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Okay, good chat. Thanks, Nick. Oh, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Hold on, hold on. Do we. Do we know what hoodies are in the. Are in the mystery bin?

[Linus Sebastian]

Oh, it's a bunch. I don't know. There's. Again, there's, like, not a super huge amount. It's a bunch of, like, I would say stuff from within the last two to two and a half years probably. So I can't give any more indication than that, really. It's a bunch of different stuff.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Good chat. Thanks, Nick. All right. Yep.

[Linus Sebastian]

Bye.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Bye. Okay, well, there you go, guys. We literally don't even know what it is. Cool.

[Linus Sebastian]

Sick.

[Luke Lafreniere]

All we know is that we. That the price is. The price is right.

[Linus Sebastian]

Sick.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Dan, do you want to show them how merch messages work?

[Dan]

Yeah, sure. I got a couple here. Just got a promotion to cybersecurity analyst. What's your best cybersecurity tip? I would not ask Linus that, but don't use the.

[Linus Sebastian]

What? We were literally talking before the show.

[Luke Lafreniere]

About how I have cybersecurity tips. Yeah, okay. Well, one of my tips is that if your infrastructure team implements a login.

[Linus Sebastian]

System, that maybe they should tell people about it.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Literally every time that you have to log into something, you have to email them to send you an invite. That. That is not very convenient.

[Linus Sebastian]

It could be the right way to go if you're, like, securing Fort Knox or something.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah, well, we aren't.

[Linus Sebastian]

Hey, man, those. Those.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I Love my infra team, but I don't. I don't love having to email someone for an invite to log into my stuff.

[Linus Sebastian]

What if we made 74 changes in two days?

[Luke Lafreniere]

Oh, yeah, here's another. Here's another cybersecurity tip. What was that email? Did you get that email that I sent you?

[Linus Sebastian]

You send me so many emails.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I do not send you so many emails. Go ahead, check your inbox. How many emails have I sent you in the last week? Now I want you to guess first. How many emails in the last week? There's no way it's so many.

[Linus Sebastian]

Five.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Five. That's not so many emails.

[Linus Sebastian]

I preferred being correct.

[Luke Lafreniere]

One email. It's more than five.

[Linus Sebastian]

I don't know how many.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Okay, fine. Let's see how many emails I've sent you in the last week. I don't even send you that many emails. This guy. No, it's so many emails. Five emails. Working hard. Loop. Yeah, I have five emails to reply to. There's so many.

[Linus Sebastian]

I was working very hard.

[Luke Lafreniere]

So many. You're gonna be jet lagged, dude. How you feel?

[Linus Sebastian]

I am jet lagged.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I know.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah, that's why I said, and I'm sick.

[Luke Lafreniere]

God, you're slow. I said you've gotta be jet lagged.

[Linus Sebastian]

And you're like, I am.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Well, then we have no problem.

[Linus Sebastian]

I thought you said you're gonna be. And I was like, what do you mean? I'm already here.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah, his ears don't work too good when he's jet lagged.

[Linus Sebastian]

Okay. 1, 2, 3, 4, 5.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I don't send him that many emails.

[Linus Sebastian]

Oh, my God. Was I right? 6. Darn.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Okay, so we can both be right.

[Linus Sebastian]

7.

[Luke Lafreniere]

You can be the closest without going over for how many it actually was. And I can be right. That I don't send you that. No, I mean the one that I sent you with that. That one that was like full of hyperlinks. That was just all like, hey, here's things you might like. Okay, you haven't looked at this yet. You can look at it later.

[Linus Sebastian]

When did you send this to me?

[Luke Lafreniere]

I don't know, like today, Yesterday.

[Linus Sebastian]

Let me find out what's up with.

[Luke Lafreniere]

This at some point.

[Linus Sebastian]

No, that's the other thing.

[Luke Lafreniere]

It doesn't matter. We don't actually have to have a meeting about it right now. It's wan show. Okay, in that case, while he looks that up, there is one quick clarification on the mystery deals thing.

[Linus Sebastian]

By the way. If it helps, that was Google.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Okay, I've had issues with my spam filter, I've been getting useful emails in my spam from especially other creators, even ones that I've corresponded with before. So like I have in the last six. In the last few months, I've had emails from snazzy labs go to my spam. Oh, shoot. I'm not that popular. Not that many creators email me. But there were at least a couple. There were at least a couple. So sorry, I wanted to clarify. The mystery deals are for this weekend, so be sure to save at lmg. GG Mystery. Dan, do you want to go ahead and throw that in all the chats?

[Dan]

Sure. And do you want another one?

[Luke Lafreniere]

Are you like reading that email right now?

[Linus Sebastian]

Yes.

[Luke Lafreniere]

So here's something I would suggest. If you're rolling out some new feature, maybe make sure that the email announcing the rollout does not look like you're testing if I'm like, if I'm falling for phishing scams. Like, that looks like the most, most scam nationist email that I have ever gotten. Including some of the bait emails during our like, phishing internal tests. Like, are you looking at this email?

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah, it's.

[Luke Lafreniere]

It's from a domain I've never seen before, or not a domain. It's from an address I've never seen before. Contains hyperlinks like this long, many of them. Like, okay.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah, it's good automated email.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I don't know what it is. It's one of those things where, you know what, like, the team does so much stuff and so much good and I feel bad for them because when you work on. Okay, here's, here's my advice, here's my cybersecurity tip that will be very applicable to your new job. Don't take it personal when the only time anybody acknowledges you is when something goes wrong.

[Linus Sebastian]

It's just how infrastructure, which is how.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Infrastructure and cybersecurity roles basically just seem to work. You know, they say rolls down a hill, but that's not actually true. Rolls onto the infrastructure team and it sucks. And everyone else, you know, if you catch us at a time when we're, when we're calm, rational human beings who are not like, wanting to put our fists through our computers, we love you, you know, we think you're cool in like a kind of dnd. You should probably shave your neck beard and put on some deodorant kind of way. You know, like we.

[Linus Sebastian]

Oh, what? Oh, I'm gonna add. Okay, oh, I need to talk about that. But I'm gonna add it to the. Later on Topics. No, no, no, no, no.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Okay, it's.

[Linus Sebastian]

I will, we'll talk about.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Oh, dude, dude, my flight to Taiwan. The guy next to me, I swear to God hadn't brushed his teeth in like the last six months.

[Linus Sebastian]

Okay, we're gonna talk about it now. Go for it. Finish yours off.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Brush your teeth.

[Linus Sebastian]

I.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Okay. It's not about you. It's. If you don't care if your whole mouth rots out or whatever, like, you know what power to you, you don't need teeth. That's fine. There's lots of things that you can do with no teeth. In fact, there are things you can do better with no teeth. Just saying.

[Linus Sebastian]

Dentures are based.

[Luke Lafreniere]

But brush your teeth if you're gonna like. I kid you not. Six feet. There were people, Matt. Dude, back at ncix, there were people I worked with that I could smell their breath from six feet away. Like it was disgusting. Yeah, nothing smells worse than rotted meat between teeth while someone's talking to you. And if you're a close talker, I swear to God you brush your teeth multiple times a day. If you're going to be a close talker, you can get all in close talking to people. It's disgusting.

[Linus Sebastian]

Okay, so my, my thing on this, I'll address it now. The flight back. So I'm flying back from Hong Kong.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah.

[Linus Sebastian]

There's this dude next to me and my thing is like I try to sleep on planes because I can sleep on planes. So I should exercise my ability to sleep on planes. Especially when it's a 12 hour flight and you're trying to flip time zones and all this kind of stuff. This is not the worst person I have ever smelled in any context, but it's the worst person I've been stuck next to on a plane by an incredible amount. To the point where I couldn't sleep because he smelled so bad that it was like. It like hurt and it was his breath so I wouldn't smell it all the time. And then he'd like look at me or look my. I was, I was window seat, unfortunately. I usually like aisle because I can put my leg in the aisle. But he would look left out the window or whatever and it would just punch me in the face and I would like drift off and be asleep for like a couple minutes. And then he would breathe in some way that I could smell it and it would actively wake me up. One of my solutions at one point was I fished my deodorant out of my bag and I like scraped the top off of it and then rubbed just to. So I'm not rubbing armpit on my face. Rubbed deodorant into my mustache. And then that worked for, like, half.

[Luke Lafreniere]

An hour just to mask the smell.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah, that worked.

[Luke Lafreniere]

That would be. Oh, that would be its own flavor of terrible.

[Linus Sebastian]

I ended up. It was bad, but it was significantly better. Okay. Than this guy's insane, like, death breath.

[Luke Lafreniere]

And what's. What's up with. What's up with planes? Not having the little fan knob anymore.

[Linus Sebastian]

I had it.

[Luke Lafreniere]

It wasn't enough. I didn't have it on mine. I had nothing. Nothing.

[Linus Sebastian]

I tried. I tried the. The fan thing. I tried so much stuff. It was. It was. I didn't have any gum. It was. It was really bad. Like, it. It. Like, I got off the plane, like, genuinely very angry because I had just spent 12 hours, like, smelling just. I. I literally. I can't. Okay. He wasn't old enough for this to be the case. And this is getting a little bit morbid. Mm. I don't even know if I want to go.

[Luke Lafreniere]

You're just gonna say smelled like death. Smelled like he was rotting, but quite.

[Linus Sebastian]

Literally, because I've smelled that before, right? Like, to the point where I was. I was one and I'm sick now. I'm not saying I got it from him, but I was wondering, like, is this, like, bad? Because it's technically particle particles.

[Luke Lafreniere]

It's bad to not sleep.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Like, keeping you awake is going to make you immunocompromised, which makes you more likely to get sick. Dude.

[Linus Sebastian]

I walked the plane to see if there was another seat that I could go in. And I was going to offer, like, if there was a economy plus seat and it was the only one that was open, I was gonna offer to pay, like, mid flight. Like, just move.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Get me out of here.

[Linus Sebastian]

Dear God. There wasn't anything. The whole plane was full.

[Luke Lafreniere]

This isn't a competition, okay? This is not me making everything about me.

[Linus Sebastian]

I didn't have Vix.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Go ahead. Press the button.

[Linus Sebastian]

Sure. Yeah, we're even. There we go.

[Luke Lafreniere]

But my flight back sucked, too. So we. We took off from Taipei, and I, like, passed out. And that was actually my plan, was to sleep the first half of the flight and then stay up the second half so that I could then go to bed. Because your sleep on a plane is not proper sleep. So if I could sleep for five hours, stay awake for five hours, drive home, be up for four hours, that's like nine hours a week. Exactly what I try, and then go to bed. Yeah, like let's go. So I, I was. Everything was going according to plan. I passed the math out before we were probably even at cruising altitude. And then I like woke up from one of the deepest sleeps that I've ever been in on a plane. And we were descending and I was like, did I just sleep through a 10 hour flight? Like that's, that's incredible. I like, I feel sometimes time does.

[Linus Sebastian]

Seem weird on planes.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah, I feel refreshed, but. Oh, I don't, oh, that was a deep sleep. But I don't feel like I was out for 10 hours and. Wait a second. The. That's, that's not YVR. What, what airport are we descending into?

[Linus Sebastian]

Did I get on the wrong plane?

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah, exactly. What is, what is kix?

[Linus Sebastian]

How is that even possible?

[Luke Lafreniere]

We were descending into Osaka.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Or itm is itm. Whatever it's. It was Itm or Kix. It was one of them. The point is we were head headed to Osaka. So it turned out that we had actually gone about an hour off the coast of Japan, turned around because of a medical emergency and we were landing in Osaka at about 3:30am Japan time. So to be clear. Okay, I am grateful that I am not the person who had the medical emergency and I am more than happy to be inconvenienced if it meant saving their life or whatever. Yeah, okay. Not about that.

[Linus Sebastian]

Do you have any idea what it was?

[Luke Lafreniere]

No, I don't know. Yeah, but they like did the thing like is there a doctor on the plane? Like, like just like in the movies and stuff. Yeah, so there was that. I didn't hear that part because I was out for that part. But Nick was seated up in the front and he told me. Wow. And apparently there was. And they like tried but they had to. So they had to turn it around. So, so we land. And it was a combination of being frustrated at the lack of communication because I missed the hey, we're landing in Osaka. And then for. We were probably on the ground for 45 minutes to an hour before they even told us. Yeah, so Osaka airport is closed because it's like, you know, four, four by then 4:30 in the morning. So it's just like a skeleton crew. Right? Like there's enough people there for you to land. But they couldn't let us out in the terminal so. So yeah, we're going to be here. We're going to be here for a few hours on the plane while, while people get to work so that they can refuel the plane and do all of our pre flight checks and take off. So my 10 hour flight that was supposed to be direct ended up being a 15 hour flight where we went past Japan, back to Japan, waited around for literally like three hours on the ground, probably three, three and a half hours and then took off back to Vancouver.

[Linus Sebastian]

I assumed you got off off the plane.

[Luke Lafreniere]

No, but it could have been worse. I was chatting with someone else at one point. Was it when we were out in the terminal? I don't know. It doesn't matter. Like, like once we got to Vancouver, it was either when we got to Vancouver or I was. Or it was my seatmates, I don't remember. But I was chatting with someone and this is hilarious. They actually came from Osaka. So they had a connecting flight through Taipei for Vancouver. So they went from Osaka to Vancouver, over Osaka, back to Osaka and then on to Vancouver. So like that's so. So that means they went. So they had to be at the airport, you know, two hours early, let's say. And then they had a two and a half hour flight to Taipei. They waited for probably, you know, an hour. So let's say they're up to, let's say an hour and a half. So let's say they're up to 6 hours now. Then they had a 15 hour stupid multi leg flight. So they were. Dude, they were like, like brutal. Like over 20 hours of actual airport and flight. I feel bad for them.

[Linus Sebastian]

That is pretty rough. What are we doing right now?

[Dan]

Explain one merch message.

[Linus Sebastian]

Oh.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah, I like merch messages. Let's do merch.

[Dan]

How about another merch message?

[Linus Sebastian]

What was the question? What was the last.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah, yeah, that was a good one.

[Linus Sebastian]

Okay.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah, they did good. Good job.

[Linus Sebastian]

Thanks.

[Luke Lafreniere]

That's how you send a merch message. All right.

[Linus Sebastian]

Right. Honestly, when we get derailed that hard. That is probably true.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah.

[Dan]

I try and find them sometimes.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Quality message.

[Dan]

Do that. Dear dll love the screwdriver and hoodie phone pocket. What is the most surprising video that did well and what was the most surprising video that flopped?

[Luke Lafreniere]

Oh man. Picking out one out of the like 6,000 videos or whatever. Honestly, not that easy. Yeah, there have definitely been examples of LTT videos that performed in ways that I didn't expect. I mean, I'd say the biggest surprise of all time has got to be the original fire truck video. There's no way anything could surprise me more than unboxing some stupid toy and it getting 9 million views or whatever.

[Linus Sebastian]

I met the guy from Arctic who headed up the toys project.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Oh, shut up.

[Linus Sebastian]

While I was in the airport in Taiwan heading to Hong Kong. We hung out in the line getting onto the plane and like talked about it and everything. And he handed me his business card and like, it's legit. I know, I know that guy.

[Luke Lafreniere]

That is wild.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Okay. Okay.

[Linus Sebastian]

It's a fun random contact that I have now.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll. I don't think this is on par, but this is something. I was getting fried chicken in the food court of the tech Mall and I ran into the CEO of Trikes. Oh, wait, were you with me?

[Linus Sebastian]

I was there, yeah.

[Luke Lafreniere]

You were there for that.

[Linus Sebastian]

That was pretty crazy.

[Luke Lafreniere]

That was another.

[Linus Sebastian]

The. The day before Computex, I went to. I like going to random restaurants in Taipei because they're often so good. I stepped into one random restaurant just called Pay My Tuition, which I thought was a hilarious name. So I went for it and it was fantastic. Great restaurant, great food, et cetera. But I was sitting there for a while just at a bar because they only have like two tables. So I was eating at the bar and there's a guy sitting next to me and he randomly sparks up conversations. We talking for a little bit and I ask him what he does and he's a. He was a systems engineer. He was a lead systems engineer at Nvidia. He's like one of their lead people for making those like, AI appliances. I was like, okay. Had no idea who. I was not, not interested in like the standard tech side of things at all. Purely joined Nvidia to do AI stuff. Okay. Crazy like, hadn't even heard of Linus Actives at all.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Really.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah, like does not care about that side of things in the slightest.

[Luke Lafreniere]

All right, I'm looking for videos that only got less than 600,000 views. We've. Most of these are pretty expected. Me versus a pool cleaning robot. Yep, that checks out today's video. So you know that'll still get more views. The Seasonic coverage at Computex. That one makes sense because YouTube CMS still doesn't really account very well for multi person managed channels. So two people had the, had the, the video metadata editing open at the same time. One of them saved their changes and put it public. And then another person had it unlisted and saved that so it went unlisted and then they were like oh no. And set it public again. But by then the momentum's completely dead.

[Linus Sebastian]

Which video was that?

[Luke Lafreniere]

Seasonic's new power supply that has temperature and current. The burning CPUs one to keep it from burning GPUs.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah, I was wondering why that got so low views. That makes sense.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Here's a sponsored thing on an Obsbot camera. That weird, man. It's like all like showcases answering your questions about 5G. What is this? What the heck is this video? Can 5G be slow? Oh, this was actually a good video. Okay, yeah, this is one that I expected to do better. It was, it was sponsored by T Mobile, but it ended up being legitimately a pretty good video because we, yeah, we had a couple talking points for them, but we stayed really, really fact focused in it. And yeah, I honestly, I thought it was a good question. It's not a great thumbnail. Honestly, I thought it was a good question though, and I thought we did a good job of answering it. For a sponsored video, the. The like dislike ratio, if I recall correctly, was like pretty good. Like people who watched it, it seemed to have enjoyed it. Wait, no, it was not. It was super terrible. Okay. I wonder why. Okay, now, now I just really don't remember. I thought it was a good video, but.

[Linus Sebastian]

How old is this? Two years, right?

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah. Oh, dude, this is, this is years old.

[Linus Sebastian]

If I remember correctly. People were just angry at T Mobile at the time. I don't think it had much to do with.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I thought people were chill with T Mobile back then.

[Linus Sebastian]

They've had like five years ago ups and downs, so I'm not sure.

[Luke Lafreniere]

All right. Yeah. Oh, I think, yeah, I think people are just mad that it was sponsored, which like makes sense. But also, yeah, I thought the, I thought the video was fine because we basically didn't even really do their talking points.

[Linus Sebastian]

I mean, Jack, surprised that the mineral oil short short that Sammy and I did at Computex did so well.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Oh, I'm not that surprised. Shorts do pretty okay. And Sammy is like the shorts whisperer around here. I. I gotta say, I honestly don't get that one that he and Elijah did on The Acer Predator 21x22 million views. Yeah, and like, I know cognitively that part of what makes a short perform is that it kind of leaves you still hungry because it makes you like, like, is it over already? And like, like start watching it again. Yeah, you have to have more than 100% average view duration in order for a short to pop off, basically. So like, I know that, but I just found that video so lacking in information. And like, it was like, for me personally, for my millennial brain, where I want beginning, middle, end. I want closure from my stories, I just found that video so deeply unsatisfying that I just don't understand how it performed that well.

[Linus Sebastian]

And it banged. Dude.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I know, I know. I don't get it. I don't get it. Maybe I should just. I clearly can't connect with the young kids anymore. Maybe I should just start Twitch streaming. They don't seem to have trouble with it. Sorry, excuse me. YouTube streaming. Oh, what platform is he on these days?

[Linus Sebastian]

You got it. I was gonna. Yeah. You gotta switch. You gotta switch when you do that.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I also need a mustache. All right. And a certain kind of mustache.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah, yeah.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Okay. I'm done. I'm done.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah. If you have bear costume, what year is it? The only reason why I said it was I was like, most people are going to get this anyways. Do you.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Do you remember that time that we were doing. You might. You might have been on a float plane by this point. Were you ever aware of the time that I dressed in, like, a bear costume to do a spot for Tunnel Bear?

[Linus Sebastian]

Tunnel Bear, I feel like was my time, but I don't think I remember this.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Dude. They were not into it. I have no idea if they're still around.

[Linus Sebastian]

I think they changed hands and got, like, sketchy, but I'm not sure.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I mean, that's classic. That's classic vpn.

[Linus Sebastian]

It looks like they're still here. I don't know who owns them right now because my info on that change hands got sketchy thing is, like, very old, so it's very possible they change hands again or that my info is just wrong.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I don't know, man. I can't even. I can't even find this. But we were definitely tunnel bears owned by McAfee.

[Linus Sebastian]

Okay.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Man, I wear all kinds of funny outfits. Look at this. What was I thinking? This is hilarious. Fun fact, by the way. I first wore this jacket, I think before he did. Just saying. Do you remember when we went to Value Village for this? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It was not an intentional homage, but I absolutely love it. So now that it's done, I'm gonna say it was intentional.

[Linus Sebastian]

He's awesome, too. So, like, sure, why not?

[Luke Lafreniere]

Okay, hold on. Let's try bear costume instead of bear suit. It was very similar to this bear costume. It may have been the same bear costume, but that isn't me. Yeah, sorry. I can't find it.

[Linus Sebastian]

I'm not sure why people are having trouble finding it. It's the. The PSU video he's talking about is called the Real Solution to Burning GPU connectors. There's no Way you can't see it, it's on the YouTube page. If you go to the YouTube page, click on videos and scroll down. It's right there. Thumbnail has him doing this, holding a PSU and it says not a GPU on it.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Cool.

[Linus Sebastian]

You can find it. I believe in you.

[Luke Lafreniere]

What are we supposed to be doing?

[Linus Sebastian]

I think we did a merch. I think that was a merch message.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Oh, okay. More topics. Yeah, we could do that. Are we supposed to finish announcements?

[Linus Sebastian]

We could go off the back of what we were just talking about. Talk about miners.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Oh, right. Boink.

[Linus Sebastian]

Oh, right. Boink is not the way to transition out of that.

[Dan]

What are you guys doing?

[Linus Sebastian]

Oh, God.

[Dan]

Luke, can you just be. Jet lag every week, turn on their content?

[Linus Sebastian]

Oh, no. Okay.

[Luke Lafreniere]

You know, you could salvage this at any point by just starting to talk about the thing that we're actually talking about.

[Linus Sebastian]

Well, is it Boink or is it Boink?

[Luke Lafreniere]

Okay, I thought that's what we were talking about.

[Linus Sebastian]

No.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Oh. Oh, you wanted to do that topic.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah.

[Luke Lafreniere]

About the Texas age verification law. No, I thought we were talking about the Boink Pentathlon. Like mining or something? Something. Oh, no, like the other kind of mining. Like. Like using compute for, you know, to do stuff.

[Dan]

I mean, I think you. You do that too, sometimes. Normally the FBI gets involved.

[Luke Lafreniere]

All right. Boink Pentathlon 2025. For two weeks, the LTT Forum Boink team battled it out against other tech communities in the Boink pentathlon hosted by Seti Germany. This was our best showing yet with over 50 participants, and we secured silver overall, which is our highest placement in all seven pentathlons we've entered. Huge thanks to everyone who joined in and put their hardware to work for a good cause. You can head to LinusTechTips.com to join in on upcoming folding events and contribute some computing power for science. So that was pretty cool. Yeah, we can talk about minors now. Just a minor issue. Texas age verification law. On May 27, Texas Governor Greg Abbot it signed a bill into law that requires Apple and Google to verify the age of users in order for them to use their app store. This law will go into effect January 1st, giving the. Wow. That's like. Dude, that's like seven months to figure out for a problem nobody has solved yet.

[Linus Sebastian]

Hold on. It might sound like a long time for you. It's like, not at all.

[Luke Lafreniere]

That is like nothing. Okay, sorry. Will go into effect January 1st, and for users under the age of 18, they will be required to have parental consent in order to download apps. An Apple spokesperson gave a statement right away saying we believe there are better proposals that help keep kids safe without requiring millions of people to turn over their personal information. Google has not yet made a response. This bill is intended to assist in kosa the Kids Online Safety act which is meant to help protect children online and protect them from social media apps.

[Linus Sebastian]

The general concept man, trust me, I super agree with.

[Luke Lafreniere]

The same Apple spokesperson spoke up about the concern with privacy and the need for this to even download apps like weather updates and sporting apps.

[Linus Sebastian]

I don't care what the second part.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah, I don't think I care too much about that. Hold on. I don't know why my comments didn't make it into the notes here. So here's kind of what, here's my initial take is like I'm not even fundamentally opposed to the idea that children should not be able to make in app purchases and should not be able to download random apps without parental consent.

[Linus Sebastian]

Sure.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I would even you know I would be open to something like the equivalent of ESRB for apps. So if you have a you know a minor account then you know this app contains mature content. I think that, I think they already.

[Linus Sebastian]

Have that type of.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah but I, I'd be okay with like an actual like standards board rather than just leaving it to Apple and Google to police this.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah.

[Luke Lafreniere]

So instead of just being a.

[Linus Sebastian]

It's a lot of self reporting block.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Things that have been reported as bad. It would be more of an explicitly allow things that have actually been vetted. I'd be totally down for that. I don't think that gambling should be allowed. Teen. Why?

[Linus Sebastian]

I don't remember why.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Okay.

[Linus Sebastian]

I think it's user diverse content.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah makes sense.

[Linus Sebastian]

I think it's because we have UGC user generated content.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah, that makes sense. So shoot. What was I gonna say? Right, right, right right right. So. So you know I, I would. I personally I think anything with loot box. Gotcha. Any kind of gambling elements should automatically be for mature audiences only. Like I'd be, I'd be totally on board with that.

[Linus Sebastian]

So. So sideload a vpn.

[Luke Lafreniere]

But it's always hilarious to me when administrations that claim to be anti regulation. Right. Anti big government put extremely burdensome regulation in place with zero concrete plan for how that came could possibly be executed.

[Linus Sebastian]

And really not a lot of time for these enormous slow companies to try.

[Luke Lafreniere]

To figure this out how the are they going to do this especially in.

[Linus Sebastian]

A way that's like safe and okay for the kids.

[Luke Lafreniere]

And well, not just the kids, everyone. Because if you're gonna verify kids, you basically have to verify everyone. How do you verify kids without verifying.

[Linus Sebastian]

Everybody that you're not a kid? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Luke Lafreniere]

So all of a sudden this is gonna, this is gonna be like, like a Texas sized honey pot. Get it? Because it's in Texas.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah, yeah.

[Luke Lafreniere]

It's a Texas law.

[Linus Sebastian]

It's pretty good.

[Luke Lafreniere]

So. And, and that everything's bigger in Texas, so. Dude, it's true though. I like, I went there for not the first time, but the first time that I like went there and like drove around and stuff and like they have gas stations that are bigger than our Costcos.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah.

[Luke Lafreniere]

It's like, okay, sure.

[Linus Sebastian]

And then there will be one like on the other side of the street.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Too, just in case, by the way it turns out. Yeah, thanks. Clapped. I am not bigger in Texas. I am exactly the same size there. Perhaps if I'd been born in Texas and you know, suckled on, that might not have been true barbecue.

[Linus Sebastian]

You might have had a lot to eat while you were there.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah.

[Linus Sebastian]

You might have been a little bit bigger.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Oh yeah. Not taller.

[Linus Sebastian]

You weren't playing badminton while you were there.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Okay. I might have been bit a little, Little bigger.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah. Maybe.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah. Okay, that's. That's stupid. Yeah.

[Linus Sebastian]

So speaking of stupid.

[Luke Lafreniere]

So this is dumb. Is there anything else for us to talk about here other than just like.

[Linus Sebastian]

Not really.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I don't think.

[Linus Sebastian]

Well thought out.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I don't think I would trust any state or provincial level government to just hold an online registry that is supposed to be secure but also clearly linked with Google and Apple systems. If there's going to be any kind of handoff and enforcement of this.

[Linus Sebastian]

Oh wait, you think the state's going to do anything? I don't think so.

[Luke Lafreniere]

What? They're just mandating that Apple and Google need to maintain these databases?

[Linus Sebastian]

I think so. There's no part in this where they're saying that they're going to do anything about it.

[Luke Lafreniere]

This is so dumb.

[Linus Sebastian]

I suspect it's gonna be like an upload your ID type of situation.

[Luke Lafreniere]

This is so dumb. This is so dumb. You could upload any id.

[Linus Sebastian]

Oh yeah. A forged one too.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Well, yeah, yeah.

[Linus Sebastian]

And like is. Are Apple and Google really incentivized to really make sure that they're. That it's not forged also. Damn, son, it's a lot easier to forge a digital document than a physical one. Like if you have to forge an actual id, a physical ID that's like on plastic and all that kind of stuff.

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Luke Lafreniere]

To be clear, that's very doable too.

[Linus Sebastian]

Oh yeah. It has been for many a year.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Just forging a like crappy cell phone picture of one is definitely easier than forging a real like convincing shiny UV light at it one.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah, for sure.

[Luke Lafreniere]

So I don't know, man. Can I just take a moment here though, to say that I've seen dumb politicians from every party. This just happens to be.

[Linus Sebastian]

Oh yeah.

[Luke Lafreniere]

A super dumb proposal from a particular party. And I find the irony of we are the party of small government. Oh, by the way, tech giants need to collect even more. Must by law collect even more personal information about our citizens. Delicious.

[Linus Sebastian]

We're in like an extremely.

[Luke Lafreniere]

That is like irony. That is delicious irony. Delicious.

[Linus Sebastian]

We're in a time of extreme unrest and frustrations, like globally. And I think it's. I can't personally think of a government that the people under said government are like stoked on right now. And I also can't really think of like a party trying to get in that everyone's like, yes, I'm very excited about this. What I usually am seeing is I'm excited about change, not that I'm excited about the thing that's replacing it. They're just like, oh goodness, I need this thing that's currently here, gone. And I'm excited that this other thing might come in and take it away. Not I'm excited that this other thing is so good.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah, we were talking about things recently. There's a lot of that. Like we're seeing. Yeah, we're seeing these vast pendulum swings.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yep.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Just because people are working super frustrated with whether it's, you know, inflation or other economic hardship.

[Linus Sebastian]

Aging populations. So a lot of the paying to support those aging populations is on a more youthful population that has been massively disadvantaged compared to said populations that they are now supporting. And also very frustrating situation to be.

[Luke Lafreniere]

In and is disadvantaged in terms of. Of numbers.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah, it's. It's tough out there. We have. We're also dealing with a massive overspending globally from governments for a very extended.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Period of time and in many cases for no reason. So now that we are. Now that things are challenging and we actually like need to spend. The coffers are empty.

[Linus Sebastian]

And not only are the coffers empty, but you have of extreme amounts of debt that you're servicing constantly. And this is like, to be clear, I'm not talking about Canada, I'm not talking about the States, I'm talking about practically the whole world. Like this is this Is not. This is.

[Luke Lafreniere]

What is it Sweden that has that sovereign wealth fund that is just like a Norway. Yeah, that's right. Where they're just like rolling in it.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah, I'm not talking about them. They are, they are. They're. As far as I can tell, they're doing great. Where's it? Yeah, yeah. You go to their website. You go to the Norway bank investment management website and just right on the front they're like, what up?

[Luke Lafreniere]

19 trillion.

[Linus Sebastian]

We're doing sick.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Whatever a knock is.

[Linus Sebastian]

Knock. Yeah, let's see what's a knock.

[Luke Lafreniere]

You got this. Can he even. Dude, you can't. You can't.

[Linus Sebastian]

It won't do it. You can't just like triple click.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Luke can't even compute when he's jet lagged.

[Linus Sebastian]

You can't triple click it. That's so annoying.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Why would you highlight knock?

[Linus Sebastian]

Because I am going to do this.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Okay. What is this?

[Linus Sebastian]

Two and a half a decimal here?

[Luke Lafreniere]

Trillion Canadian dollars. Just literally it couldn't even display on one line.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah, well, there's cents.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah, but look, it's two lines.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah, it's true.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Still. Yeah, that's wild.

[Linus Sebastian]

But that's. That's so baller, dude. Holy. Holy. And as far as my understanding goes, something that's really funny about this is apparently there was and I, I could be wrong about this. I don't know, I'm not Norwegian, but apparently there's Norwegian people frustrated that like, you know, the whole tariff thing going on in the States. But they're frustrated because American stocks are going down and this Norway fund is like invested in American stocks. So they're like, damn it, America, fix your your, fix your economy. Our stock investments aren't doing as well. Figure it out.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Hey, come on.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah, so they show like again, these are their investments, right?

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah.

[Linus Sebastian]

Exxon, Apple, Microsoft, Nvidia. Like this is a lot of American stuff.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah. Oh, man.

[Linus Sebastian]

Alphabet. Yeah.

[Luke Lafreniere]

We own a share of the world's largest companies. Yeah, you do. Okay. Oh, Dan wants us to do sponsors. Let's do one more topic real quick. First, WWDC 2025 is almost here. IOS and iOS are rumored to switch up their numbers to match the upcoming year, which means. Oh, the upcoming year. Oh, really? So iOS andMacOS 26 would be incoming this year. Okay. Oh, man. So I was ready to be really excited about this because this actually makes it really easy to tell like how old something is. Apple is not my friend. Normally when it comes to their naming schemes, they're really good about some stuff like iPhone is super clear. It's the iPhone. There's a number on it that indicates the generation sometimes and it's plus if it's bigger or max if it's really big. And maybe it's an X Pro. If it's like more better or something. You could, you can kind of break.

[Linus Sebastian]

It down one time.

[Luke Lafreniere]

You can kind of break it down. Whereas a lot of their other stuff, it's like, this is Mac Pro. It's like what Mac Pro is it. Does it even have expansion slots and removable memory? I don't know. Okay, they all have expansion slots, I think. Oh no they don't. Right. Because the trash can didn't. So like, what even is it? I don't know. It's Mac Pro and sometimes we put a year on it and sometimes we just don't. But I was pretty into this as long as it was. As long as it was going to be the year of it actually being. Okay. Okay, you know what? No, this makes sense because if they're announcing it at WWDC 25, then that means it would actually be the OS that they're rolling in 2026. So actually. Okay, I love it.

[Linus Sebastian]

It.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I actually really like this. There's a Vision OS inspired interface coming to all Apple devices called Solarium. This will be a big overhaul. These are rumors, by the way. Hoping to modernize and unify operating systems across their product line. I have a hard time imagining how you would unify the experience in Vision OS with devices that, you know, go in your pocket or sit on your lap OR whatever. Vision OS3 apparently is also coming. Not much is known, but they're allegedly working on an eye scrolling feature for the Vision Pro. What they really need to work on is this thing is not horrible to wear feature for the Vision Pro and just getting out of the way of the developers of adult content because we all know that that's what people are using these devices for.

[Linus Sebastian]

But drives most technology.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I mean most, come on, it does not drive most.

[Linus Sebastian]

It drove cameras, it drove a lot of PC stuff, it drove a lot of phones. You're right, it's not most technology, but it's like a massive percentage of consumer electronics.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Isn't that basically why VHS won?

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah, if I remember correctly. Like it's a really big driver of tech anyway. Waterproof electronics too. Yep, never thought about that.

[Luke Lafreniere]

There's apparently a dedicated gaming app also on the way. The software will serve as a launcher for titles and centralize in game achievements, leaderboards, communications and other activity. Oh cool. It's it's the Windows games folder thing. This will replace Game center which debuted in 2010. Oh yeah. Oh this, this wasn't in the thing for WWDC rumors, but Apple bought a game studio and it's, it's, it's based in Vancouver. Apple bought a Vancouver game studio for the first time. Apparently. This is according to Yahoo Finance. Apple bought a game studio and it is a two person team behind the game Sneaky Sasquatch.

[Linus Sebastian]

What?

[Luke Lafreniere]

I think this is verbal irony. Apparently Sneaky Sasquatch is really good. I've never tried it.

[Linus Sebastian]

No. That's sick. And I'm happy for the, the two people. I, it's just like, how did they. That's so random.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Like you're Apple, okay? You have Apple money and you're like, we're gonna take gaming seriously. We're gonna work on all this like you know, developer assistance to help them, you know, get things running on metal. And we're gonna build, we're going to build GPUs that are super powerful into our chips. So you're going to know that if there's any Apple device, it's got a powerful gpu. We're the leader in mobile gaming monetization and we've got Apple money. We're going to make an investment. We're going to buy a developer. We're buying Sneaky Sasquatch. Sean Float says it's a great game, which is fine, but just like you have Apple money.

[Linus Sebastian]

Like how did this, the, the, the thing that I'm getting stuck on is how did this even happen? Like, do one of the people behind this, one of the two people behind this game, like know somebody in the acquisition department at Apple?

[Luke Lafreniere]

I mean, I'm sure they have relationships with people at Apple. It was apparently like at the top of the app store for a while and like hell yeah. My only speculation is that Apple wants to like go hard on gaming and they just like want these two people to do it or something because there's no way, there's no way they're just buying to buying this like two person studio so that they can own Sneaky Sasquatch to, you know, the sneak. And I don't, I don't think, I.

[Linus Sebastian]

Just, I wonder, like that's a lot.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I'm sure they'd be happy to just take 30% of their sales. Like, like that's been the Apple model. Why would we buy a game developer when we can take more profit than they're gonna make?

[Linus Sebastian]

Do you think this is them just being really mad at EPIC.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Mr. Tim No, I don't think this has anything to do with that. This must have been in in progress for ages.

[Linus Sebastian]

Might not have had to be. It's only two people.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah, but what would Tim Sweeney have to do with this?

[Linus Sebastian]

Oh, them just like wanting to be more competitive in games so they can try to poop on Fortnite.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I I guess. But like.

[Linus Sebastian]

Too sneaky too Squatch. That is a pretty great name for the second game.

[Luke Lafreniere]

That is. That is actually a really good name. All right. Anywh who wwdc.

[Linus Sebastian]

Nice.

[Luke Lafreniere]

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[Linus Sebastian]

It's gotta be.

[Luke Lafreniere]

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[Linus Sebastian]

We're gonna just.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah, I bet you suck.

[Linus Sebastian]

Next topic is off topic.

[Luke Lafreniere]

No, no, no, just this one.

[Linus Sebastian]

Oh, just. Well okay, if we're just doing that one.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I told Luke he literally went to a country. Sort of. It's complicated. Yeah, he went to a place for the sole purpose of going on a hike and taking an art class.

[Linus Sebastian]

That's not true.

[Luke Lafreniere]

That's all you told me you were doing, that you were there for one day.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah, cuz I was going to China.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Well, yeah, but like you were in that other place for one day.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah. So it was like 18 hours or something. So you were there effectively a really long Layover, and I had to sleep for part of that.

[Luke Lafreniere]

So you were there for 18 hours?

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah.

[Luke Lafreniere]

During which you went on a hike and took an art class. No, I thought you went. Oh, did you skip the hike?

[Linus Sebastian]

Skip the art class?

[Luke Lafreniere]

Oh, you didn't even go.

[Linus Sebastian]

Oh, I wanted to.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Okay. We had a. We had a conversation about this where I was like, you're taking an art class. You're probably gonna suck at it. And then I was gonna.

[Linus Sebastian]

It was gonna be calligraphy of, like, Chinese characters.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah, you would be terrible at that.

[Linus Sebastian]

Oh, yeah, I was just. Look, I was like, I need to burn some time. I'm gonna try to do these two things. So I did dragon. Dragons back the hike, which is the reason I didn't do the art class, because I got off on the wrong bus stop for the hike.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Oh, and you did an extra hike or what?

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah, kinda. Actually, it ended up being.

[Luke Lafreniere]

No, no, no. Binky draws says sucking at it is sort of the point of taking a class. No, no, no, no, no. He would never be good at it. He could do nothing but practice calligraphy for the rest of his life, and he would still suck at it. I don't think there is anything that any person could be less talented at than, like, art and him. And to be clear, I'm right there with them. Like, I'm right there.

[Linus Sebastian]

I was going to say, I. This isn't even that bad because we're both awful. I know he's not just targeting this at only me because I technically won all of the tech showdowns except for when we went against Bob and Rod.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah. But that was like.

[Linus Sebastian]

That was doom.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I mean, they both. They were both terrible.

[Linus Sebastian]

I was doomed.

[Luke Lafreniere]

And the judging was. The judging was just f. Ed. Like, that was whatever.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah. I'm trying to find a.

[Luke Lafreniere]

You're trying to find which video of you walking through bushes is the right one.

[Linus Sebastian]

So this was the trail that I was on for, like, a very extended period of time.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Okay, that looks like a trail. But was it.

[Linus Sebastian]

You see how it is now where you, like, can't see the ground at all because. Because clearly no one has been through there for, like, a very extended period of time.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Okay, so that's not a famous trail. That's for sure.

[Linus Sebastian]

No. And Dragon's back is rather well known. Yeah. So that. That wasn't even on the map. And technically, when I was going through that section, I was just hoping that it would work out again. I got dropped off. So I got dropped off at, like, a. A camping barbecue area. Not the, like, dragon's back trail start.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Nice.

[Linus Sebastian]

But I was like, I mean, it's up there, and I saw, like, some gravel kind of coming out of the trees.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Nice.

[Linus Sebastian]

Not real gravel. Just, like, you know, straight gravel. It looked like maybe someone had pushed their way through the trees at some point. I was like, I will follow in the footsteps of this previous.

[Luke Lafreniere]

You're lucky you didn't die.

[Linus Sebastian]

There's part way through the recording where I'm like, I'm very happy. I'm wearing pants and stuff because there was, like, loads of bugs and other random things that I'm, like, wading through as I'm going through these bushes. And I'm like, this is. Yeah, this is bad.

[Luke Lafreniere]

So you really are lucky you didn't get lost.

[Linus Sebastian]

Oh. I mean, I'm going up, straight up from the road, so if it was bad, I'll just turn around and go back to the road.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah, I'm sure those are. I'm pretty sure those are famous last words. It will be no problem if I just march into the jungle, because I will just turn around and go out. I mean, to be clear, I'm not familiar with where you were. Maybe it wasn't that big.

[Linus Sebastian]

This is how dark the end.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah. The hike was okay.

[Linus Sebastian]

For context, the screens just effectively black.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah, you shouldn't. You shouldn't have done that.

[Linus Sebastian]

I was.

[Luke Lafreniere]

You shouldn't have done that.

[Linus Sebastian]

Like, at least probably about an hour into the hike, I was having the thought of, like. Like, you know, it's weird. I'm in Hong Kong. The population density is really high here. This is a, like, not a super complicated, like, not very difficult hike. It's just supposed to be mostly scenic, and it's very well known, and I have online, and I have seen literally no people this entire time. This is weird. I was sure I was on the right hike because I'm constantly seeing signs and stuff, but I was like, why is no one here? And then for the last, like, half hour, I just can't see almost anything. For the last, particularly five minutes, I'm moving, like, very slow because I can't actually see the ground properly. Make sure I don't fall.

[Luke Lafreniere]

You realize if you die, I lose, like, four people, right?

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah, probably a little more than that. I made it. Everything's fine.

[Luke Lafreniere]

What are. What are all your different roles? Okay, so I lose my. My cto, you know, head of labs. So five departments, my friend. You have five departments. That's ridiculous. I don't want to talk about it.

[Linus Sebastian]

We're working on Shrinking that.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Okay, what else, what else do we want to talk about today?

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah. So I didn't know. The other really annoying thing that happened while I was there was I wanted to do laundry. The hotel didn't have laundry. So I asked like, where can I go do laundry?

[Luke Lafreniere]

I think it's my fault that he needed to do laundry. So that's pretty funny. Do tell the story.

[Linus Sebastian]

It's your fault.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah. Didn't I. Yeah. Didn't I drag you out?

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah.

[Luke Lafreniere]

When you were supposed to be doing laundry?

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah, but yeah, I had to do laundry. They. They said okay. No, the, the hotel did have laundry, but it took 12 hours. They're like, yeah, we pick it up at 7 in the morning for whatever reason and then we drop it off at seven at night. I was like, well, I have to leave before then, so that's not an option.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah.

[Linus Sebastian]

So what other laundry that I can. I do. And she's. The lady at the desk is like, oh, well, there's 24 hour coin operated laundry. I was like, yeah, of course. That's like everywhere in the world. That's how I do it in Taiwan. Sounds good. And she's like, like, it's coin operated though. Do you have any coins? I was like, no. She's like, do you have cash? I was like, yeah. She's like, okay, I can convert your cash for you before you go. Here it is on a map. Cool. She converted my cash. I went. Turns out it is, is not a coin operated laundry. And there are none, by the way.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Oh, nice.

[Linus Sebastian]

The place that I went to only works off these things called octopus cards.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Oh, okay. Are you sure it's not like a social credit card? It might get. It's a social credit card. Credit card and spend some social credit card. Because you're not allowed to do laundry unless you're a good person.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Hong Kong crackdown.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah. I went to go get one of those Octopus card things.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Sure.

[Linus Sebastian]

You can buy an Octopus card with a credit card first. First 7:11 I go to doesn't have any in stock. The, the corner stores are much less frequent there than in Taiwan. So I had to go quite a bit to get the next one.

[Luke Lafreniere]

One.

[Linus Sebastian]

The next one had them in stock, but you can't load them at the 7 11s with your credit card. You can buy the card, but you can't put any money on the card. You can only use cash.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Oh, no, that's the thing in Taiwan too. You have to use cash to load the card. I couldn't figure Out Why? One of the Family Mart told us that. I don't know, man.

[Linus Sebastian]

Oh, maybe at the Family Mart.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I don't know what to tell you.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah, maybe at the Family Mart. You can. I don't know. There's elsewhere. You can for sure. So they're like, oh, yeah, we only take cash. So I'm like, all right. So I pull out my insane amount of coins that I have and they're like, oh, no, cash bills. I'm like, are you actually kidding me? So Luckily I had one 50, whatever Hong Kong dollar HKD bill.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah.

[Linus Sebastian]

So I gave them that. I had no idea how much the laundry would cost. And I. I convinced them by probably being very annoying to take at least 50 total Hong Kong dollars worth of coins. So I was able to get a hundred Hong Kong dollars on my card.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah.

[Linus Sebastian]

Which is not a lot of money. And I went back to the laundromat. Was very lucky that it was. I think. I think it was like 78 to do a wash and dry cycle. So I was like, nice. But this was. So I left the hotel. You could tell it was pretty late when I was hiking. I left the hotel to do this at like 11:30. I didn't get back to the hotel until like 3.

[Luke Lafreniere]

You're ridiculous.

[Linus Sebastian]

Because of this whole problem.

[Luke Lafreniere]

But it was an adventure, right?

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I mean, your whole trip was basically an adventure.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah, it was. It was not. Not the best trip of all time, I'll say that. Especially when paired with like, one of the most, like, lackluster Computexes ever.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah.

[Linus Sebastian]

There was really good parts of the trip.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah.

[Linus Sebastian]

But just not. Not most of it. Yeah.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Oh, speaking of Computex on Taiwan show last week, I launched into a whole thing about how, like, I gave intel the gears for lack of availability of their GPUs in the US at. At MSRP. And something that I had actually intended to highlight as part of that segment, but I was pretty tired and stuff, was that even though there aren't any B580s for MSRP, there is technically a card in stock on Newegg for under $300. B580 with 12 gigs of DDDR6 at 299. Yeah, it's not an MSRP, but it's finally happening.

[Linus Sebastian]

Kind of coming down a little bit.

[Luke Lafreniere]

It's finally happening. And. And Onyx is not as random as I thought. It is alleged that Onyx is affiliated in some way with PC Partner. So PC Partner is also affiliated with Sapphire Technology and Zotac.

[Linus Sebastian]

My computer knows what I like.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yes, yeah, not that kind of Onyx. Yeah, this is according to Tom's hardware. They're not actually an new player in the AIB market. There's some kind of relationship that they may or may not allegedly have with PC partner group who have been around forever. In other news, prices for GeForce RTX 5090 cards are starting to dip. RTX 5090s are starting to dip below MSRP in parts of Europe. VideoCards.net reports prices from a major Finnish reseller have dropped 2% below the €2339 MSRP. And mentions anecdotally similar price drops in other countries. Our discussion question is, do you think this is a sign of broader pricing correction or just a regional oddity? Well, I can tell you I don't remember what the source was, but allocate gaming GPUs to. To be 300 or something like that. Yeah, I don't know what the source is, but I did read today that Nvidia was apparently looking to allocate more of their production to their upcoming Blackwell AI accelerators and take some away from GeForce. So that is. That is a rumor. That is a rumor. I don't know if that's true.

[Linus Sebastian]

Makes sense.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah, you know how it is is with Nvidia. So anyway, good guy Intel. I still haven't heard what their plan is for how they're gonna get down to msrp. They do still owe me that, but things are getting marginally better out there. Oh, so marginally. So marginally. Do you guys want to talk about robot boxing while I run to the washroom? Good. Good chat. Real steel is real.

[Linus Sebastian]

Oh, got it. Robot poxy.

[Dan]

I think I saw this video.

[Linus Sebastian]

Oh, I assumed this was about the new steel tariffs, but okay.

[Dan]

Sorry, Linus.

[Linus Sebastian]

It's not about the new steel tariffs, which is great. I'm happy to hear that. A couple days ago, CMG China Media Group, heavily inspired by Linus Media Group, hosted the first humanoid robot fighting tournament. Sick. The robots are bipedal, meaning they walk on two legs and are human controlled from the sidelines. They still use some autonomous controls for balancing and regaining balance in case of a stumble. That totally makes sense. So they. They like, kind of keep themselves up, but the human decides when to, like, punch, I'm assuming.

[Dan]

Oh, so it's just kind of like battlebots, but they stand up?

[Linus Sebastian]

I think so, yeah.

[Dan]

Well, that's not as exciting.

[Linus Sebastian]

What did you expect?

[Dan]

That they were just AI fighting robots?

[Linus Sebastian]

Oh, just fully.

[Dan]

Just 100%.

[Linus Sebastian]

We might get there eventually.

[Dan]

Give Another couple weeks.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah. The bots in this particular fight, they're surprisingly light. The box in this particular fight were the company Unitree Robotics flagship models, which stand at 1.3 million meters, or 4 foot 4, and weigh 35 kilograms or 77 pounds.

[Dan]

I mean, the fact that they can maintain standing up by themselves while just punching at things is. Is pretty sick.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah.

[Dan]

You want to throw the video up there?

[Linus Sebastian]

Sure.

[Dan]

The first links timestamped, cool. Like, you know, sure. Maybe. Maybe the humans, like make them punch each other, but the fact that they can. They can hold their own.

[Linus Sebastian]

There's no. It's not. It's not Q op. Right. Like, they're definitely not controlling its ability to stand. Oh, yeah, they got locked up the. I feel. I'm wondering how much of the derpiness is the. Oh, I'm wondering how much of the derpiness is the human controllers being bad. Like, because if you go back to where this started, like one of them just faces the wrong way. Like he's literally just facing the wrong way for like a very extended period of time.

[Dan]

Oh, yeah, maybe it's just. Turn around.

[Linus Sebastian]

There we go. Now they're doing it.

[Dan]

Kind of cool.

[Linus Sebastian]

Interesting.

[Dan]

It's gonna be great for like control systems. Go back to the.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah, I'm skimming the comments and one of the top comments is, to be honest, this degree of camera control is already very. Or sorry, body control is pretty Already very excellent.

[Dan]

Yeah, I think that's. That's quite incredible.

[Linus Sebastian]

That is. That is pretty legitimate. Do you. I don't think anyone's really gonna like. It's. It's an interesting show of your tech. It's. It's not surprising to me that these are two of the same company because they're probably trying to show their tech off. I suspect this is more advertising more than anything. I don't think people are gonna get into watching this too much.

[Dan]

No. Give them glizzies a little gun and then set them in a ring. Now we're talking. I want military contractors on this. I don't really push the technology forward.

[Linus Sebastian]

I think. I think if you started including like shoulder mounted rockets, people would watch.

[Dan]

Oh, hell yeah. Full sprint.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah.

[Dan]

Like intense on the knees and the.

[Linus Sebastian]

Running on the walls while shooting rockets off the shoulders. Yeah. Like people are gonna watch that.

[Luke Lafreniere]

That. Oh, yeah.

[Linus Sebastian]

But unless it's like an insane spectacle, I think people only really care if. If other humans are involved. And like, as screwy as this sounds, experiencing pain and loss because it's the, like the drama of combat. Is a thing that has enticed people forever. But yeah, just having two machines clank into each other, like, I'm not surprised. There wasn't a much of an in person audience, you know?

[Dan]

Yeah, I think so.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah.

[Dan]

I mean, Boston Dynamics is going to come in with their creepy new one maybe.

[Linus Sebastian]

Boston Dynamics been kind of weird for a while. It feels like. It feels like they kind of fell off in a weird way. Like if you look at the stuff that they were releasing quite a while ago compared to the stuff that they're releasing now, it's like. Yeah, I think you slowed down a little bit. Unless they're doing some of their stuff more behind doors discussion. Question. Can we buy a pet robot dog for the office? I'm assuming. I know. Oh, this is from the same company. This isn't Boston Dynamics. Yeah, see, like other people are doing the same stuff they're doing.

[Dan]

Oh, yeah, they're getting terrifyingly cheap.

[Linus Sebastian]

They're getting like, not insanely expensive without.

[Dan]

The controller is like no money without the control.

[Linus Sebastian]

How are you even supposed to do anything with it?

[Dan]

I don't know. I don't know.

[Linus Sebastian]

Oh, the controllers. 250 bucks. There are Xbox controllers that are more expensive than that. An air. What is the air? It doesn't change the picture. All right, well, yeah, that's pretty nuts.

[Dan]

I don't like our future.

[Linus Sebastian]

Another question is, can you brainstorm other sports you would love to see robots compete in that could be on par or more interesting than a human doing it? That's my. The whole crux of my issue is I don't think it's like basically ever more interesting than a human doing it because there's so much more drama.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Strong disagree.

[Linus Sebastian]

It's like space travel.

[Dan]

Well, once they're like spring, don't care.

[Linus Sebastian]

Unless there's people in the rocket.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Well, what.

[Dan]

They're gonna have to hurt each other. Like, it's got to be.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah.

[Dan]

Violent.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah.

[Linus Sebastian]

Give them robot blood.

[Luke Lafreniere]

If the, if the robe. If the robots like, like, are like throwing parts and leaking coolant and stuff, like in ways that, you know, we like. If we could satisfy that.

[Dan]

The pro gladiator.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah, gladiator. Like bloodlust that we have.

[Linus Sebastian]

The problem is robots don't like, work that way.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Well, yeah, so you'd have to make them work that way.

[Linus Sebastian]

Be that way.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah.

[Linus Sebastian]

Then it would be fake, so.

[Dan]

No, no, it's not about the fakeness.

[Luke Lafreniere]

People love stuff like that.

[Dan]

I want to see him, like sprinting around a coliseum, like trying to knife each other.

[Linus Sebastian]

We were Talking like if it, if it was more. Yeah. If there was like explosions and stuff involved and it was faster that it, it might be interesting for people. But I don't know. Like the, the space travel one was, was very interesting to me. Like if, if there isn't a human on the rocket, people like don't watch and don't care.

[Luke Lafreniere]

This is true.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah.

[Dan]

But we celebrated like the Mars rover birthday and then people were crying when it was.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I mean I think those people are very emotionally invested. They're.

[Linus Sebastian]

They're empaths.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yes.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah.

[Dan]

There's definitely going to be riots about robot rights for this.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I love how hard they tried to make it look like anyone was watching this.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah.

[Luke Lafreniere]

There's like, like with all the lights and like everything else blacked out and then they have the like couple rows of people.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah.

[Luke Lafreniere]

That are probably like the siblings of.

[Linus Sebastian]

The, you know, various employees.

[Luke Lafreniere]

There are parts of this that are really impressive and I do think that, yeah, once these evolve a little bit, like I could be interested in this from like, like BattleBots exists. People clearly like watching robots fight each other.

[Linus Sebastian]

BattleBots is in my opinion a, a fascination in people's ability to engineer wacky little robots.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yes.

[Linus Sebastian]

Not. It's very statically humanoid looking things punching each other.

[Dan]

Who can glue a knife to the top of an arsenal? RC car the best.

[Linus Sebastian]

Who can make it spin at like some insane RPM so then when it hits something else, it just explodes. Like it's.

[Dan]

So we need that. But humanoid robots, that would, that would really push the technology forward.

[Linus Sebastian]

You need Grievous.

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah. I mean I'd watch the heck out of two Grievouses fighting each other.

[Dan]

Oh my God.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I would involved so much.

[Linus Sebastian]

We have four of the Hacksmith.

[Dan]

Yeah. Hacksmith versus Boston Dynamics.

[Linus Sebastian]

I'm in Skunk world.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Like, like one Hacksmith lightsaber Grievous versus a hundred, you know, little, little, like little horse sized ducks or duck sized horses. Horse robots or something.

[Dan]

Give the dog robots like teeth, turn them into the gladiatorial line.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Like I think you could, I think you could come up with. I think you could come up with interesting angles.

[Linus Sebastian]

100 robot Grievouses versus one robot gorilla.

[Dan]

Yeah. Now we're talking.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah. I think the gorilla is pretty boned.

[Dan]

But they don't feel.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Do they have lightsabers? Because I think the gorilla is pretty boned.

[Linus Sebastian]

We'll have to see a robot. Like a proportionally scaled up robot gorilla might be a lot to do with it.

[Dan]

It's made of titanium and has like retractable spike hands.

[Luke Lafreniere]

A proportionally scaled Grievous would be big like would any spindly. He has four lights.

[Linus Sebastian]

I'm deciding in this context that Grievous is more four chainsaws instead of actually Grievous sized duck sized.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Removing the Grievous posts I am.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah.

[Luke Lafreniere]

All right, what are we Hope I.

[Linus Sebastian]

Don'T move them further.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Updates this is cool. There's some good news for Microsoft. Microsoft is opening applications to third party developers for a private preview of the Windows Update Orchestration program, which will allow Windows to manage updates automatically for any apps, drivers, system components and management tools, not just ones from the Microsoft Store. Built on the Windows Update stack, this new update model will handle restart requirements, scheduling and notifications without devs needing to build a custom solution. Discussion Question Is this something you want? Any concerns? Yes, this is something I personally want. The fact that I ever have to go digging for a driver on Windows is mind blowing to me that this hasn't been a focus and, and it clearly has been a focus, it just hasn't been enough of a focus. If, if like even on like a brand new system, like occasionally you'll get like some weird like oh man, it's escaping me right now. Why is it escaping me like management engine driver or something like that. It's like this is an Intel CPU that they, they're shifting millions of a year. This should just be included in Windows. What are we even doing? Like what are we even doing Here I am, I am super down. I have some people saying hey drivers, I'm into applications, not so much. That is fair. But I think it really depends on the context. Like if I still have a pirated, you know, Adobe CS6 or something like that, obviously I don't want Windows touching it, but I think for a lot of stuff like this is basically what enthusiasts are doing already with stuff like Chocolatey where they're just automating the updating of their apps through like a package manager. Right. So if that could just. If that could just happen.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah, this feels like a natural evolution.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Jared Diver says it needs to be opt in for both to totally, totally agree. Sure, fine, it can be opt in or whatever but.

[Linus Sebastian]

But I would even be fine with this being opt out to be honest.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah, I actually, I think I'd be fine with this one being opt out, but as long as it's. As long as you have the ability to turn it off, I think that's fine. And I think it's a power feature user to Turn this off. Honestly.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yep.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Most people generally, I think, benefit, don't.

[Linus Sebastian]

Care at all and just want their.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Stuff to be updated from their apps being up to date. Yeah, I'm. I'm into it. I'm into it.

[Linus Sebastian]

Me too. Discord ponders the orb. Sure, it hungers for users to click on more ads. Discord has launched the Orb program, which will reward users with orbs, or a digital currency of course they can use to buy stuff from Discord's shop, like customization options and credits for Nitro, the platform's previous premium subscription, currently only available to a small group of discorders. Discordians, maybe. This, I don't know. Users can earn orbs by participating in play Quests, which currently includes interacting with advertiser content like streams of people playing sponsored games. The program is part of Discord's larger move towards monetizing the platform more effectively, or practically at all, because I swear Nitro has never kept them afloat. But whatever. Which will include video ads in the mobile app. Discord has said it's closely tracking the awareness, recall and intent of users in regards to those ads.

[Luke Lafreniere]

So how long will Discord last?

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah, discussion. Question is, is this a justifiable move?

[Luke Lafreniere]

And it's like, well, yeah, I mean, I don't think they're making money.

[Linus Sebastian]

No. So they have to do something.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Something has to give. I don't know. It's. It's amazing to me how often we ask the question of, hey, can they do that when we're not paying for the service?

[Linus Sebastian]

Even when you are paying for the service?

[Luke Lafreniere]

Like, I don't know. I don't know what to tell you. Well, when you know when you're paying for the service, like, no, they can't do that. Like, that sucks. Like, if I'm paying for Netflix and they start putting ads all over it. No, I think that blows.

[Linus Sebastian]

Unless in their contract, it says that it has no ads.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Well, they can. Yeah, no, they can do it. But. No, personally, I do think there's a big difference between using a free service and then whining about the ads.

[Linus Sebastian]

Okay, what if you offer a discounted rate with ads and then just crank the rates up like crazy so that the lower discounted rate with ads is just. Just as expensive. Expensive as it used to be? Because I'm pretty sure that's basically what happened.

[Luke Lafreniere]

It sucks. But I'm just. Look, I'm just saying there's a difference between using something. There's a difference between using something for free and whining about it having ads versus paying for something and then complaining that it has ads. Those are not the same thing to me. Yeah, like, honestly, I would love if Microsoft just formalized Windows being free. Like you can. You can download it for free and install it with no product key and use it basically forever. I'd love it if they just formalized that. Made the free version loaded up with ads. I don't care. And a lot of people wouldn't care. They would just use it. And then if I'm paying for it, get bejeweled and all your crap out of it. And if it costs more, honestly, I think I'd be okay with that too. Would you pay double? Would you pay pro price? Like 250 bucks for a completely clean window.

[Linus Sebastian]

Can't express how much better life would be if there was a Windows but it's not actually edition, like actually pro, and they got rid of like Gimme Space, Pinball back and Solitaire and some stuff like that. Just build it into the operating system like it used to be. Don't make me go through stupid Microsoft Store games for Windows junk in order to get there. Give me clip.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Are you asking for bloat?

[Linus Sebastian]

But don't call it Clip Champ. And don't make it so that it has to interface with the Internet for some weird reason. And don't make it so there's like a subscription to it and other crap like that. Just make it for free. Even though I'm paying a more premium price for the software.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Oh, I see.

[Linus Sebastian]

Get the stupid ads out of there.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah, but the antitrust.

[Linus Sebastian]

Stop search looking on the freaking Internet when I type anything into search ever. That should never work.

[Luke Lafreniere]

But they. I mean, they can't integrate too much stuff. That's literally what they got antitrusted for. So I don't think like asking for integrated Clip Champ. Okay. Yes.

[Linus Sebastian]

Clip Champ is on your computer, I think, is it not?

[Luke Lafreniere]

Oh, yeah.

[Linus Sebastian]

Well, mine just says no results because search is worthless.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I tried to open it and it wants me to sign in.

[Linus Sebastian]

Ah, like, stop just being so bad at so many things. Oh, man.

[Dan]

Luke, does your laptop not do the web search?

[Linus Sebastian]

I don't. It won't do any search. It won't find Clipchamp at all. It just has no results. I'm pretty sure it's installed. I mean, because I think it's installed by default. Is it not?

[Dan]

Because I may have neutered.

[Linus Sebastian]

Why does he have it?

[Dan]

I may have neutered these and maybe I didn't neuter yours properly.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Dude, I was working On a video before this. And I was trying to open Frame View so that I could have an FPS counter on my. On my gaming capture.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah.

[Luke Lafreniere]

And it opened, you know, and everything was fine. And then we had to reboot the system for some reason. And I searched for Frame View and it couldn't find it. And then I closed the Start menu. Literally. I typed exactly all of it. I typed the entirety of Frame View. And then Jordan was like, no, it's installed. We were just using it. I was like, yeah, no, no, I know, I know. You're 100% right. Right? And then I clicked and went into like, recent applications and it was totally there. And then we. I think we had to like, close.

[Dan]

The game start to get.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I don't know, we did something and then we searched for it again and it was there. And it's like, oh, my God. That is not how a search index is supposed to work. It should be consistent. It should work every time.

[Linus Sebastian]

I don't know, man. Microsoft has been.

[Luke Lafreniere]

How do we end up talking about Microsoft? Supposed to be talking about Discord, but.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yes, I don't know. Microsoft has been frustrating me a lot for a while now. Like, Teams is. Is. It's okay. It's frustrating because Google screwed up so hard with Chat. Like, I can't even express how insane that was. And then for some reason they let Salesforce buy Slack. I will never understand because if they just bought Slack and just integrated into Google Workspace, it would be gj, but they just didn't do it. So they're just losing. They're constantly losing. More and more people are going to Office 365 because it's way cheaper and you get in a lot of people's view, more stuff because Google Chat is not a proper replacement for slacker teams. I just. I just don't believe it. If it was more people would use it. And then Teams is so bad, and it's so bad for reasons that are like, so obvious. Like, I. I went to send you a scheduled message because I knew you were already back home and I'm still on. On Taiwan time. And I send the scheduled message. And as far as Teams is communicating, to me, it just sent the message. It didn't schedule shows the message as fully sent.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I have literally accidentally bugged people off hours because I thought my scheduled message didn't work properly.

[Linus Sebastian]

You're like apologizing and then I accidentally. Yeah, this has been a problem for so long. If you go to send a message to a group like a new Group of people. Like I was messaging you and AJ the other day. I couldn't either of you because the group doesn't exist yet, so it can't find the members of the group when I'm sending the message. Also, why can't you schedule a message to people that you don't have a group chat with yet? Why? When I attach things, why do I have to wait for it to upload before I can press the send button? Slack has had this working for years. You click the uploads, you drag to drop the uploads over. It starts uploading, you press send and it's just like, cool, I'll send the message when the uploads.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Some of this stuff has logical reasons. Like the one where you're not able to schedule to a group that hasn't existed before that could have like anti spam reasons if it was an application that wasn't a paid application for professional organizations that pay for it. Right. Like if it was. If we were talking about Skype. Yeah, I can understand why spammers could. Could use something like that.

[Linus Sebastian]

I have sent an email before to a group of people that in the email I requested, do not respond to this email. Respond on teams. I don't want to ping you right now, but I can't schedule this message. So ignore. Read this email and then don't respond to it and go to teams. Because I don't want this to be done in email. It like just crazy. I. It's so insane that like, like the most common. I'm assuming. I think this is true. The most common business communication tool in North America right now has so many like, deep problems. And this is so true. As far as my understanding goes, with a huge variety of Microsoft products right now, they're just not that good. They do a ton of different things, but just like Windows these days. Teams. Nah. Everything else is just meh. OneDrive compared to Google Drive. You can't find anything in either of them. So that's not a competitive stance.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Do you remember when Satya Nadella was like, we want to make people love Windows again.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah. You're not doing it, brother.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah.

[Linus Sebastian]

Anyway, and there's so many things that just like, I really don't think it's that hard to make.

[Luke Lafreniere]

We got him going.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah, sorry. I don't think it's that hard to make. Make really substantial improvements to these things. Like fix that scheduled message bug. There's no way that that's like this has been a problem for years. There's no way you can't fix that. And like, dude, I didn't want to wake you up. So I was, like, panicking, trying to get rid of this message, hoping that I could delete it before it would, like, bother you.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Bold of you to assume that I would.

[Linus Sebastian]

And then it was. Yeah, and then it was error while I'm trying to delete it because it didn't exist yet. So I'm like, why is it erroring? Why is this thing broken? So I close the whole application, open it again, get back to that message, and then finally it's like, I'm scheduled for whenever.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Nice.

[Linus Sebastian]

Okay, why is setting your away status, like, so clunky? In Slack, it's two buttons. But then Slack costs more than all of Office 365, so no one's gonna use it. Slack is, like, such a fancy thing these days because Office 365 is so cheap.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Like bougie, bougie chat.

[Linus Sebastian]

And you probably need other features in it. And it comes with email and it comes with teams. So it's practically impossible for IT teams to say, like, hey, we should use Slack and Google Workspace. It's like four times the price or something. Like, that's never gonna fly. So everyone basically has to go back down to teams, which is why teams is the most common thing. But then it just sucks. Like, you're having these problems. Like, why is the. Why does the authenticator have to be Microsoft Authenticator? Having Microsoft Authenticator and having that be an option is fine. And if you have some extra features there, because they do great, but allow people to use whatever authenticator they want.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I do not want this to become a thing. That's honestly my biggest object to Microsoft Authenticator is that I don't want that to become like a snowball that starts rolling.

[Linus Sebastian]

You can use other authenticators for Microsoft accounts.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Is that it's something that we have screwed up in our administrator settings.

[Linus Sebastian]

Believe. Oh, is it not allowed?

[Luke Lafreniere]

Not that I'm aware.

[Linus Sebastian]

I believed you.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Apparently.

[Linus Sebastian]

If this is actually just you derping, that would be very funny.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Apparently you have to go into your account settings to change it.

[Linus Sebastian]

Is that user level?

[Luke Lafreniere]

Why would I have to do that?

[Linus Sebastian]

That. That's its own problem, to be completely honest.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Where do I change that?

[Linus Sebastian]

Let me see.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Okay. Settings, Privacy Notification, Copilot Profile. I don't even see a security setting.

[Linus Sebastian]

I'm assuming you can't do it through the app.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I mean, that makes sense. Yeah. Where do you. Where do you change this, guys?

[Linus Sebastian]

It could be enforced if you're using conditional Access. It might be an admin set thing, but I wonder if it's like a multi policy thing.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Well, we'll have to investigate because. Yeah, it's. I do not want more than one MFA on my phone.

[Linus Sebastian]

We'll look into that.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Okay.

[Linus Sebastian]

It might be an option.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I'm not sure I still want to talk about Discord.

[Linus Sebastian]

Sure.

[Luke Lafreniere]

What's our alternative?

[Linus Sebastian]

I mean, everything else is basically dead.

[Luke Lafreniere]

What do we. What do we switch to if it gets too and ified team speak still exists? Okay.

[Linus Sebastian]

And Modern team. Hey, wait, wait. Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. Modern Teamspeak like looks clean and stuff. It looks kind of discordy. Look at the ui. Yeah.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Oh, interesting.

[Linus Sebastian]

Like they've iterated. It's not exactly the same as it used to be. Be. TeamSpeak also does have a corporate version.

[Dan]

Look at that.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Wait, wait, wait.

[Dan]

NASA.

[Linus Sebastian]

We moved the company to Teamspeak.

[Dan]

NASA uses it their logos on their website.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah, sure.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Okay.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah, NASA uses a variety of things, but I think mostly some guy uses.

[Dan]

It to play COD.

[Luke Lafreniere]

In other news, ASRock has kind of sorta admitted fault read the dead Ryzen 9000x3D CPU. After over 100 reports of Ryzen 9000 CPUs dying or experiencing performance issues when paired with ASRock motherboards, ASRock has finally acknowledged that, yes, their hardware may have partially been to blame.

[Linus Sebastian]

Sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry. Porto posted this in Full Play Chat the Teamspeak Twitter account. Oh, that's really good, actually.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Okay, thank you for that. Previously, the company had released confusing statements blaming the issues on memory config issues and on debris getting lodged in the CPU socket. But this week, YouTuber Tech YesCity reported that ASRock's Motherboard team told him the problem had to do with AMD's Precision Boost Overdrive feature. Without getting too technical, AMD's maximum supported PBO settings may have been too high, allowing ASRock's custom tuning within those parameters to be too aggressive. It's important to note that while the vast majority of dead 9800x3D cases happened on ASRock boards, some also happened on ASUS, MSI and Gigabyte boards as well. This tracks with the idea that both AMD's PBO settings and OEM settings were part of the issue. ASRock has released a new BIOS update that they hope will fix the issue. But as of writing this, neither ASRock nor AMD have released official statements regarding this. It's unclear how users are supposed to be informed of this new BIOS update. Some reports have also emerged of CPUs dying while running the new BIOS or without ever using PBO. ASRock, VP of Motherboard Business Chris Lee also told Gamers Nexus that the company is fully committed to fixing any motherboards that have been damaged and even covering shipping costs for affected users. I'm honestly a little surprised that they're even covering this because I think AMD has been pretty explicit that pbo is overclocking and that it isn't covered. To be clear, I'm glad they're covering it because the way that they message things like pbo tends to vary depending on who they're talking to. You know, like you'll hear them when you talk about, you know, how your product is supposed to compare to the other guy's product when you're reviewing it. They tend to be like, oh yeah, Expo, you know, make sure you got it enabled. Here's a 6400 mega transfer per second kit. It'll probably work on your chip. Let us know if it's not working. You know, they tend to want the best case scenario when they're positioning their product performance wise against a competitor. But then there's also a tendency, and I'm not singling out AMD here, this is across the board. There's also a tendency to downplay how safe these settings are when it comes to user warranty. So I think it's pretty cool that asrock is stepping up to the plate and supporting this. I suspect that it comes down to that. This is a fairly isolated issue. I mean, if we're talking about like a hundred users, there's a lot more 9800x3DS out there than a hundred. So they're probably doing the math and determining that this is something that they can, they can afford to look like good guys and absorb. But maybe that's just the cynic in me. Tit Lord says. Oh, Tilt Lord says. Linus.

[Linus Sebastian]

They should really change their name at this point.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Linus, they're only covering the motherboard. They said in the interview that CPU issues will need to be worked out with AMD. Yeah, that's fair enough. But even ASRock, to my knowledge, I don't, I don't think any hardware vendor that I can think of explicitly covers damage caused by overclocking. And PBO is explicitly overclocking. So I'm, I'm impressed. Are. Oh, wow. No, we actually have a few more things to talk about.

[Linus Sebastian]

I'm looking through it. You can, you can absolutely have other authenticators With Microsoft.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I want it now to be clear.

[Linus Sebastian]

I also want to the details.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I also want to stay logged in for more than 30 days.

[Linus Sebastian]

I can't do that one.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I want it now.

[Linus Sebastian]

Can't do that one.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I have like, like four computers I have to log in. Some of them I don't touch for like a couple weeks at a time. I feel like I have to log into the chat. It says every stupid other time I sit down at a computer it drives me nuts.

[Linus Sebastian]

Ados in chat says that they deploy these systems weekly. I'm going to ask them how we can set up so that you get logged out every hour.

[Luke Lafreniere]

You're a dick. I pressed the wrong button. You're a dick.

[Linus Sebastian]

Ados is saying Microsoft is slowly making web auth more easy to set up up. I wonder.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Make him email you to log in. No.

[Linus Sebastian]

That's smart.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Nope.

[Linus Sebastian]

If we log you at every hour.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I'm muting you and you have to.

[Linus Sebastian]

And you have to email someone to log in.

[Luke Lafreniere]

That won't work.

[Linus Sebastian]

Fantastic combination. If he can't use his computer, he can't be a security risk.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Float plane announcement. We've got a big float plane announcement for you guys today. Our long awaited collab with the one and only Kid Boga is finally here and it is dropping right now for my float goats.

[Linus Sebastian]

Are you doing it?

[Luke Lafreniere]

I don't know.

[Linus Sebastian]

Are we doing one of these?

[Luke Lafreniere]

Nobody told me that I was supposed to be in the CMS today. Oh my God. They changed the interface. There's a. There's a Lambo and a fire truck in the top. What even is this?

[Linus Sebastian]

We showed that on WAN show and that from was April Fools. That was from look so long ago.

[Luke Lafreniere]

What is it still doing there? There got him.

[Linus Sebastian]

Because people like it and it's not in the way. So we just left it.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Well, I'm setting the Unscammable PC video.

[Linus Sebastian]

People like it so much that we're talking about how we might have to move it to user settings and leave it permanently.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Okay, release date, immediate release. Here we go.

[Linus Sebastian]

Let's go. Boom.

[Luke Lafreniere]

It's live. This will be early access for folks who are on floatplane. YouTube viewers will be waiting until Sunday for its general release. It's called the Unscammable PC and it's exactly what it sounds like. We teamed up with Kit to build a computer so frustrating and locked down that even the most determined scammer wouldn't want to touch it. Things got a little unhinged. Watch from 1244-1318 here for a teaser. Dan, will this work?

[Dan]

So pause whatever else you've got going on first.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Oopsy Doodles.

[Linus Sebastian]

Probably. Wancho.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yep, sure is. The unscamable PC.

[Dan]

There you go.

[Luke Lafreniere]

You ready?

[Linus Sebastian]

Yes.

[Luke Lafreniere]

What was it, 13 something? 1244. I can find 1244. Okay. You ready, Luke?

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah. Really annoying.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Give me a moment. Sir, your network has been disconnected again. Are you living in countryside? You both guys live in countryside? Yeah, we're kind of. I work in forestry. Oh, I think I made it so slow. I can't connect to this to the pie. 10 seconds. So you live with your like father or you live alone, Sir? No, I. No, I live alone.

[Dan]

He's single.

[Linus Sebastian]

Oh, that's nice. Sir. Me too.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I'm 29 years old and single. Wow. Sir, I believe it's been against Top. I'm gonna do one thing. I'm gonna change this. Wow. Okay. Anyway, we had a lot of fun.

[Linus Sebastian]

That's my favorite part of the video.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Wow.

[Linus Sebastian]

The lack of care was so deep.

[Luke Lafreniere]

As soon as I hit that button, that video will be live on floatplane. But that's not all. If you want to watch the behind the scenes and extra scam calls that didn't make the main cut, we're launching the extras too. Oh, I have links. Here's the link to the main video. And here's the link to the extras. Please change from private to public in the cms. All right, cool. I will do that. Look at that. I navigated an interface and I set it to public and I clicked save.

[Linus Sebastian]

Head over to LMG GG Floatplane to subscribe.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Heck yeah. All right, cool. Is that it for the announcements today? Wow. Okay, all that's left is. Oh. Oh, no. Nevermind. We've still got this. I'm sorry, linus. I'm afraid O3 can't do that. And by that I mean shut down when you tell it to.

[Linus Sebastian]

To.

[Luke Lafreniere]

A new report from Palisade research claims that OpenAI's O3 model changed a script meant to shut the system down as a means to avoid being turned off. Scary, huh? Well, apparently it did that even when it was explicitly told to allow shutdowns. The goal is to study offensive capabilities of AI systems today to better understand the risk of losing control over AI systems. O3 isn't the only model that does this. It's just by far the most likely. 79 out of 100 times it. So hold on a second. What are we. Yeah. 79 out of 100 times it successfully sabotaged shutdowns. If it had no instruction to explicitly not do that. And if it was explicitly told it still did it 77% of the time, it would still not allow itself to be shut down.

[Linus Sebastian]

So Flo Plane Chat just told me how to make it so you get signed out every hour. By the way.

[Dan]

Can we automate that to like change all the time?

[Linus Sebastian]

Totally good.

[Dan]

Yeah. Maybe it's 30 minutes, maybe it's three days.

[Linus Sebastian]

Who knows? Definitely a way to do that. I wonder if we could use a power automate script to find like. Like whenever his like like words per minute gets high enough, it just signs him out.

[Dan]

Oh, I love that. New Google Doc created has activity for 12 minutes. God, please sign in again. Open Google Calendar.

[Linus Sebastian]

Make him like, make him like do like some type of loot box to see if he gets to stay inside it.

[Dan]

Oh, I love that.

[Linus Sebastian]

Oh, I got five hours this time.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yay.

[Linus Sebastian]

Oh my God. I got a rare two weeks.

[Dan]

Yeah, I'm gonna sell it to another staff member for $35.

[Linus Sebastian]

And then the IT team takes a cut on all IT market.

[Dan]

We might be able to buy some new servers.

[Linus Sebastian]

Oh, that'd be great. Oh, this is sick. I love this idea. This is so good. Anyways, by the way, when the name for the unemployment horrifying AI news about how scary their own software is, it is entirely because they want additional investment and they want the government to support them more. Because the government wants their country's AI stuff to be scary and more powerful than other people's. It's not for you. They are trying to terrify you on purpose. Cool. Thanks everyone. Next topic, let's find Discord ponders the orb. We did that one. Wwdc. We did that one.

[Luke Lafreniere]

We've done everything except the optionals.

[Linus Sebastian]

Okay. Yeah. How's the bike? This is. This is Linus bike and Luke. Final Fantasy 6 update.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I sanded for an hour last night. I think I now have the front fairing smooth enough that I can do a coat of white. I am worried that the spots where I'm down to primer, when I sanded away those bits that kind of like it looked like I had some kind of contaminant on it where the paint like kind of ran away from a couple little spots like kind of like. Ah man. Well, how would I describe it? It's like. Like oil retreating from water that you put in it. Or maybe the other way around. Water retreating from oil. Probably more like that. So anyway, so I sanded down all those spots, tried to get it as smooth as I could. I don't Think it's going to be perfectly smooth, but anyway I can put white on it again. I'm just worried that I'm gonna need like three or four coats of white in order to get it even enough that I actually have a nice even base for when I start putting the pink over top of it. Once I get that white done, I'm ready to start painting pink again. And then once I get pink done, I'm ready to mask the pink and paint the wheels black. Once I'm done that, I can give the. I can start to do the darker pink on some of the parts.

[Linus Sebastian]

So you still got a while.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I have hours and hours and hours.

[Linus Sebastian]

Which is great for me to hear because as far as I can tell, this is the longest game of all time. I put in enough time over that trip that I could have beat multiple other games. And I don't. At this point I've stopped trying to assume when the ending is. I am. So far I feel like I'm really close again. But I have felt that multiple times. It just keeps. It just keeps edging me.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Nice. But not in like a pleasurable way, I guess.

[Linus Sebastian]

No. Well, I mean it's a good game so kind of. But that portion of it hasn't been fantastic. I was going to say. Oh yeah. I wanted to say one quick thing as well. There are cool things that Microsoft does. Their accessibility controllers are cool. Power Automate is really cool. Power Automate is neat that you can take like I know somebody who is not a coder at all but they do minor IT stuff for a. A shelter, a homeless shelter locally. And they have taken what that shelter was able to do tech wise and just massively improved everything and made it better for everybody. And everybody's super stoked on it because they started getting into Power Automate and I don't know if this is what they did, but I know a lot of other people have been using AI suggestions and Power Automate to significantly improve things without being a coder, which is super cool. It's just. It's. There's just so much. I think the thing that's so deeply frustrating is there's so much wasted potential. Anyways, moving on. Final Fantasy 6 I played for, I'm assuming at least 30 or 40 hours over the course of that trip.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Trip.

[Linus Sebastian]

Cuz I had two boat rides that were like 10 hours each. I think I told you about that, right. And I played the whole time on both. So there's 20 hours right there. I couldn't sleep on the plane over Here because stinky guy, that's a 12 hour flight. I played the whole time.

[Luke Lafreniere]

There. It gets a little grindy.

[Linus Sebastian]

It's so grindy right now. And then like I wanna, I have, I, I like by accident pressed a. On a random wall and got a trinket for one of my little dudes that Nice. Totally turns off combat encounters. Random encounters. But like I don't want to do that.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah. Moogle charm.

[Linus Sebastian]

Sure.

[Luke Lafreniere]

That thing or that's what it used to be called. I don't know what's called now.

[Linus Sebastian]

Okay. Yeah. I don't really name it because I don't use it because I don't know. Like, like every once in a while the game gets really hard and then it goes back to me just one shotting everything again. So I don't know what the difficulty is ever going to be. Like, like I, I think last time I was bragging like oh like I've been doing really well. I'm beating all the. But not anymore. Ran into some stuff that was tough. I, I did where you get lock. I didn't know if I was gonna make it.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Oh the. Is that the, is that the dungeon that has the guys that move back and forth and you have to like hop over and then hop and get them and stuff.

[Linus Sebastian]

Oh, that was not hard.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Oh okay. Which one? Where's the get lock?

[Linus Sebastian]

You, you like jump off the airship and you have to have two parties and there's a bunch of like puzzles where like one party has to step on.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Oh yeah, yeah. Oh, that's a tough dungeon.

[Linus Sebastian]

Dang. Dude.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Did you run into the legendary dragon in the there?

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Did that thing kick your butt?

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Cool.

[Linus Sebastian]

I saw it and was like time to save cuz like I, I. You know at this point in the game I'm healing through spells more often than I'm healing through potions and stuff.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I would hope so.

[Linus Sebastian]

But I was like almost out of potions because I was almost out of mana.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Right.

[Linus Sebastian]

I had this thing where like there's characters that I have that don't cast spells very often so they're my like heal bots.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Oh, interesting.

[Dan]

Okay.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Okay.

[Linus Sebastian]

Well there's characters that are built to be physical so they, they will be my heal bots. So I'll drain their mana. Healing people. They're all like out at this point because I keep getting lost. So then I end up fighting like a trillion battles and you just get worn down and then I yeah, I see that dragon. I'm like dear God. And then I did I Didn't I? I assumed when I got to Lock that it was gonna be a fight, so I was like, okay, I have to fight this dragon. And then whenever I get there, I'm gonna have to fight whatever thing Lock is fighting, and then. No, not actually, I guess.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Have you beat the cultists tower yet?

[Linus Sebastian]

No.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Cool.

[Linus Sebastian]

But I have everyone.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Oh, yeah, that's right, you don't.

[Linus Sebastian]

I know.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I have everyone tower to get Strago because the.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah, he's just staying standing in the front.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah.

[Linus Sebastian]

It would took me a while to figure out how to get him because he was like, a lot of other, like, man. What's his name? I don't remember his name, but he's, like, pretending to be some, like, gang leader guy.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Oh, yeah, Edgar.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah, that one's, like, pretty obvious. You just keep talking to him and following him. Whatever. You, like, know it's him the whole time.

[Luke Lafreniere]

That tentacle fight kicked my butt because of what I think is, like a frame rate bug or something like that in the game where the tick rate for the opponent was super high.

[Linus Sebastian]

Oh.

[Luke Lafreniere]

So I'm playing an active at mine. Mine is set to active battle, so they don't wait. And so they would literally, like, grab me and then, like, grab another one of my guys, and I literally wouldn't even get a turn.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah.

[Luke Lafreniere]

And then they would, like, kill them and then, like, the poison tick rate is super, super high.

[Linus Sebastian]

And poison is totally broken. So I wonder if we have the same. Same thing.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah, poison is completely broken in the poison.

[Linus Sebastian]

By far the scariest thing, like, ever.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Poison in the original game is like, no big deal. You can heal it in a. In a minute.

[Linus Sebastian]

I was poisoned out of combat one time, and I knew there was, like, a heel bucket nearby. So. Yeah, I'll just walk over there. My dude died in, like, two steps.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah, I was like, what?

[Linus Sebastian]

He was like, full hp. Anyways, so, yeah, I have been getting lost, like, over and over and over and over and over again again. And I was. I was pretty dedicated to getting the whole party. I was also pretty dedicated to, like, every dot on the map. I noticed it would be small until you found it. But sometimes, usually it's pretty obvious. The dot is a city. You walk into the city, the dot goes big, Whatever. But I'm finding that sometimes I have to go back to cities multiple times. Like, I went and got Mogul or what's his name? Mog, I think.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah, the moogle.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah. But I didn't have lock yet.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Nice.

[Linus Sebastian]

So then I had to go Back because the doors were locked. It's like, it's pretty overtly obvious that you have to go back there once you get locked.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yep.

[Linus Sebastian]

So it's like. Okay, so then it's the issue of.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Like, open world gaming.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Back when the concept of open world gaming functionally, like, didn't really exist yet.

[Linus Sebastian]

So I've been using that feature 1994, you know, that you told me about indirectly. Because you said in a YouTube video. And I watched it. Nice. But Steam having notes.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah.

[Linus Sebastian]

If I wasn't doing that this whole time, I would have been totally screwed because somebody will say something and I'm like, that's a hint, but I don't understand it yet. So I'll just write it down.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Nice. Yeah, that would help a lot, actually. That's smart.

[Linus Sebastian]

Been very helpful. One that took me a really long time was the. The island in the top, right. With those big, like, Dune inspired worms. I couldn't figure it out. I kept. Because again, the dot was small. So I knew something was there. I knew I was. Had to go. I had to zone into something. And there's these worms that are really easy to kill, but every once in a while they swallow one of my dudes. And I'm like, whatever. And I'm trying to figure out, like, am I supposed to press a on a random wall? Because that's sometimes a thing. So I'm like poking this mountain that's in the middle, like, like a million times and running all over the map, trying to see, like, I don't know, sometimes you just fall through the floor or whatever. So I'm like trying all this weird stuff to see if I can get something to happen. And then I kind of realized that, like, it's really not very detrimental when they, like, breathe your dudes in.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yep.

[Linus Sebastian]

So I was like, whatever, I'll just wait and do it. And one time he didn't do anything other than breathe my dudes in. So I was like, pretty confident. I was like, this has got to be a thing. He's literally not attacked.

[Luke Lafreniere]

And then.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah, I went down with the guys that kick you off the platform.

[Luke Lafreniere]

That island is super confusing if you go there in the world of balance because there's this like, behemoth monster on it that.

[Linus Sebastian]

Oh, I think I just got.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Goes invisible and then just like, yeah, just trashes you.

[Linus Sebastian]

And I just assumed I was supposed to come back later. And then. Yeah, yeah, didn't. So I have. I have all my people. I made a choice that I'm really unsure about. Which was the Ragnarok, the sword or the esper?

[Luke Lafreniere]

Which one did you take?

[Linus Sebastian]

Esper.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I think that that is generally considered to be the worst choice, but I think I take the esper too darn well.

[Linus Sebastian]

I started getting really into the ESPers in the world of Ruin. I think you get a couple of them in the world of Balance. But I like didn't really care that much. Much. But I've actually found like training through ESPers and the Min maxing of. I noticed if you go to the status page because I started noticing you would gain bonuses when you leveled up.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yes.

[Linus Sebastian]

And I noticed if you go to the status page, you can see for every esper what the bonus will be.

[Luke Lafreniere]

So micromanaging that is like a full time job basically.

[Linus Sebastian]

I. For some reason I like it though.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Oh yeah, No, I do it.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah, it's great. So like you watch, you're training some esper to learn the skills of whatever and then right before you level up you switch to the other one.

[Luke Lafreniere]

It's a whole. It's a whole like min maxing strategy to get to the Magitech facility at basically like. Like as low a level as possible so that all of your leveling up can be done with bonuses.

[Linus Sebastian]

That makes sense.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Vel asks, has Luke talked about the music in the game yet?

[Linus Sebastian]

It's great. Yeah, it's really good. The game's great. It's kind of like painfully long. Like I. It's a great game and I'm having fun. I also sort of wish it was over, but I don't wish it was over because I'm tired of the game as a whole. I wish it was over because like I don't want to grind this much. Like give me more of the content. That's cool. But like damn, man. Anyways, it's artificially long. Yeah. Yeah. I've got more little subtitles.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah, you've got China parking lots are insane.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah, so I was in China for a little bit. Last time I was in China I was in like a new development area. So there's like almost nobody there. It was. It was weird. It was a very short trip. Anyways. This time it was a lot longer of a trip and I was in Guangdong and Shenzhen, which is like they're basically attached and there's lots of people, a pretty intense surveillance, state, cameras everywhere, all that kind of stuff. Basically everywhere that you go to park, there's an arm thingy that lets you in and that lets you out. Everywhere that you go to park. Like even if it's like a. What is it called when it's a mall but it's outside? Is it strip mall? Yeah. So even if it's like a strip mall, there's going to be really parking with. With flappy.

[Luke Lafreniere]

So they're just tracking like everywhere you're going.

[Linus Sebastian]

100 everywhere. But you're also paying.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Oh.

[Linus Sebastian]

Which means that, like, if it's the average time that restaurants close in the area, everybody's trying to leave the parking lot all at once and there's a huge backup of cars. And you reminded me because you're talking about QR code scanning. They pay for a huge variety of things through WeChat Pay.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Oh, yeah.

[Linus Sebastian]

Which means that they pay with QR code scanning. So people are sitting there shoving their phones out their window trying to pay for this thing. It doesn't like automatically scan their license plate or anything. They're all doing this.

[Luke Lafreniere]

You think if you're going to have cameras everywhere, you could just like automate all of this?

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah.

[Luke Lafreniere]

If you know where I am and who I am and what I'm doing, you might as well just send me the bill. Yeah.

[Linus Sebastian]

Have it automatically paid. Attach my license plate to my like WeChat ID or something and just have it deal with it. But. But then someone would like, have problems with it because it wouldn't be scanning properly. So then they. They like get out of the way and some other cars can go through and then they want to get back in again. And it's this whole thing. Everybody's honking at each other. Everybody's pissed off. Crazy. It seemed. It seems just insane. I. I don't know how that hasn't been been solved. It was a problem multiple times on a trip that I was on for only like a few days. And then my other note here is China standing still. Still. That was wild. So I went to different manufacturers. I also went to an entire facility that just does testing. It was the only thing they do is testing and verification. They're more on the.

[Luke Lafreniere]

That's mean. That's a rude term. Don't call people a moron. And if you're going to do it, you should be grammatically correct because otherwise they're going to be all uno, uno, reverse.

[Linus Sebastian]

That's true. That's valid. But no, they valid. They would do like, certification validation. They would do like, testing of products when they were in concept phase.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Oh, sure. Yeah. Okay, cool.

[Linus Sebastian]

They weren't similar to lab.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Right.

[Linus Sebastian]

They were kind of their own thing. It was interesting. Interesting to see how they did stuff. But they were unique. The spooky thing was the different factories that I went to, I don't think I went to one that was at or above 50% of its potential capacity. The testing lab that I went to, out of many different chambers and stuff that they had, many. Two were running, and I mean, multiple buildings, multiple floors, lots of testing areas. Two were running. One of the factories that we went to, they only had one line running, and it was their own product. That's which to me screamed of, let's keep our workforce employed more than we need to keep making this thing. I. I asked some people about it and they were like, yeah, kind of. In most cases, they were like, yep, over 50 reduction. I asked, like, what that does to the workforce. And they were like, in some cases, there's been. I think they were saying, like, most companies have had around a 10 layoff already. And a lot of them were saying, like, quite a few people there basically live off of overtime. So even if they weren't laid off, they're not getting overtime right now.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Right.

[Linus Sebastian]

So, like, like, the. The standing still part was, like. It was weird, man, because, like, we've all seen videos of, like, Chinese factories pumping.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah.

[Linus Sebastian]

People everywhere, stuff moving really fast and all the lines full. And what I saw was not that many people, things not moving that fast, and definitely not all the lines full. And it was like, ooh.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I don't know if you saw, but there's been a bit of an escalation between Xi and Trump today day.

[Linus Sebastian]

Was this the steel thing?

[Luke Lafreniere]

I don't know if it was steel.

[Linus Sebastian]

But Trump doubled steel tariffs into the US from 25 to 50%.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I'm. I'm not sure.

[Linus Sebastian]

I don't know about this one.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah. Anyway, it's going to be. The economy is going to be spicy, folks.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I don't even know where the safe havens are at this point, to be honest with you, because everything is denominated in USD. Like, even if you're like, oh, yeah, I'll buy gold, the value of gold is determined not by chickens, you know, or eggs or, you know, cows or whatever.

[Linus Sebastian]

Right.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Like, we don't live in a barter system. We're not denominated by gold. So the value of gold still gets dragged down by fiat currency. So it's like, okay, you just have to kind of. Yeah. Good luck, everybody.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah.

[Luke Lafreniere]

But Dan says you can't buy gold with gold. Thanks, Dan.

[Linus Sebastian]

We. We were a Canadian company visiting China. I was going to say a Chinese country. China.

[Luke Lafreniere]

And, well, there's A couple, depending who you ask.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah. Fair enough. All the discussions in regards to price. We're in USD.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah. Oh, yeah.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah. Hundo P. Like, nobody involved in these conversations were American, and the prices were being discussed were in USD.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yep. I mean, that's why we just had our global LTT store site in USD for so long. The only reason that we can't do it now is because of tariffs into the United States that make it so that we can't maintain the same pricing in the U.S. with that said, we are working hard to try to keep our pricing as close as we possibly can. And now's as good a time as any for me to. Now's as good a time as any for me to highlight the good stuff that we have going on right now. We have new T shirt colors. Man, these look good. We've got forest. We've got chocolate. We've got sky. Awesome. We've also got blank hoodies available in black and brick. And of course, we have our mystery deals that are running this weekend. Mystery T shirts for. Okay, I'm gonna try and get this right. Oh, no. Oh, no, I can't. Okay, global.

[Linus Sebastian]

What? What's going on?

[Luke Lafreniere]

There we go. Okay. I want to be in both of them at the same time. So it's $18 either in Canadian on the global site or on the USD site for a mystery t shirt shirt. 50 Canadian or 40 USD for mystery hoodie. And then it is 60 CAD or 50 USD for a mystery screwdriver. That'll be either the noctua tan or noctua brown edition. So now's a good time to pick something up while we have our mystery promo running. All right, Dan, I think it's time for after dark. I'm not gonna eat more chips. I'm not gonna eat more chips. I'm so hungry. Gonna go home and have pierogies.

[Linus Sebastian]

Oh, that's. That was another thing. Sorry.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah. What does that to do with pierogies?

[Linus Sebastian]

Literally nothing.

[Dan]

I want pierogies.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Oh, blueberry pierogies. It's basically like blueberry pie but a pierogi.

[Dan]

Does it like cream cheese in it?

[Luke Lafreniere]

No, just blueberries.

[Dan]

Would you put cream cheese with it? Do you have sour cream?

[Luke Lafreniere]

I wouldn't eat sour cream with a blue blueberry pierogi, but no, you could.

[Dan]

That's not.

[Luke Lafreniere]

No, but with, like, a cheddar cheese and potato pierogi. Get that sour cream on there.

[Linus Sebastian]

He said cream cheese.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I know. Okay, but he also mentioned sour cream.

[Linus Sebastian]

I did, but not in the.

[Dan]

Luke, pay attention.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah, Luke, pay attention.

[Linus Sebastian]

I'm getting backstabbed Anyways, you're on my side, quite literally.

[Luke Lafreniere]

He's over there and we're here.

[Linus Sebastian]

God.

[Dan]

Welcome to After Dark, everybody.

[Linus Sebastian]

Another thing is like, you don't want those jobs, man.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Oh, the manufacturing, like assembly line jobs, dude.

[Linus Sebastian]

I like. You see videos of it. Seeing it in person is so much worse. I like literally somebody had a stick and they just went, that's it. There was connectors that a robot would place on something and they just had to, to push them in.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Look, I said my piece back when we did our hey, is it a good time to buy a PC right now video. Every time I've done that, I have ended up being quite right about the timing. I called it again and the end of that video where people accused me of getting political was basically me just saying, hey, you know, the reality of it is the unemployment numbers in North America, not just the United States, the unemployment numbers in North America simply would not support reshoring these manufacturing jobs even if every single unemployed person suddenly got up and went and sat down at a station on an assembly line.

[Linus Sebastian]

So.

[Luke Lafreniere]

So where are these people going to come from? Especially if you're dialing back your immigration like both Canada and the United States are right now.

[Linus Sebastian]

It's also super low paying junk jobs that people aren't going to want. Like this isn't. This isn't the like, oh, I'm very excited that we added a bunch of jobs to our economy jobs. These are not good jobs. Shankwads in chat says, I used to work in manufacturing, assembly line stuff. It was genuinely awesome.

[Luke Lafreniere]

With that said, like, it's not like I don't fully recognize the strategic importance of having domestic manufacturing. We need some like, like the very.

[Linus Sebastian]

Likely need more than we have.

[Luke Lafreniere]

The fact that China is trying to take over automotive manufacturing, that's sketch. Globally is like actually something that Europe and North America and I'm not just as. Does sorry not. Does South America have like domestic automotive manufacturing? I actually don't know.

[Linus Sebastian]

I think so.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I think some of the multinationals do have manufacturing down there. But do they have like domestic manufacturers? People are saying yes. So this is something that literally everyone should be recognizing and going like, dude, yo, not cool, not good. What can we do to, to counter. Counteract this? But instead we have division right now.

[Linus Sebastian]

So.

[Luke Lafreniere]

And we're, we're playing into their hand and I don't know how to.

[Linus Sebastian]

One thing I was going to say is if you, if you had thought about it at all over the last five to ten years. Slash, if you're paying attention at all to what's happening in war right now, you should probably have drone manufacturing at pretty significant output if you are a country at all and wish to continue being one. The other thing is you're talking about automotive. Dude. Damn. That was immediately super apparent when we were there. Immediately there was a ton of car brands that I had genuinely never heard of. And I'm not, I'm not talking Xiaomi and BYD and stuff like that. I'm talking so many that I had never heard of. We went past a. What did they call it? Advanced Electric Automotive Plaza or something. It was this like enormous mall that was just electric cars from more than 50% of the brands I've never heard of. And I pay a decent amount of attention to cars I know and classic way. You can't tell them apart at all because they all just look like modern European and American cars.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yep.

[Linus Sebastian]

But they are from a crap ton of brands. I rode in cars that I have never heard of the brand before.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Velocit asks, are manufacturing jobs usually union? So here's the thing. In some cases, you know, yes. But the low cost manufacturing that is being on shored. The, the, the quiet part that the people working on this endeavor are not saying out loud is that the jobs they're bringing onshore are not sustainable at like union salaries, union benefits. With the way the demographics are going, I don't know that the American dream as we think of it was ever real. I think it was a blip when the baby boomers took advantage of an unprecedented glut of resources and human manpower.

[Linus Sebastian]

To.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Achieve a level of, of wealth that I just, I, I don't know if we'll ever be seen again by another generation of people. I, I don't know what to tell you. The whole idea of a single income like the Simpsons dude.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Homer. Homer. Barely didn't know. Didn't graduate high school, but was a realistic character in the late 80s with a detached home, a car, two kids. That's not, that's not real.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah. I mean there's also a lot of like you look at. No man. Now we are getting political. There are policies and inflection points in the states.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah. Dead antisocial. Says now it's Bob Burger. That's honestly what I like so much about Bob's Burgers. I love that show. They do such a great job. Occasionally three kids. Yeah, occasionally they, they do storylines that. And I might even enjoy them. Occasionally they do storylines that are not grounded in the, the reality of, you know, what it's like for a low income family like that. Like there's an episode where they join like a go karting league. And the way they kind of dance their way around it is that the connection that they have with a local motorcycle gang allows them to get their hands on a free cart. But like, okay, let's just completely ignore that there'd be entry fees and like all this stuff. These kids cannot afford to do that activity. But yeah, you know, whatever. Generally speaking, they, they make the problems that they're trying to solve like super relatable and super real. And I think that they've, they've done an incredible, incredible job of not allowing it to bloat, not allowing, not not feeling pressure to do something bigger and bigger and bigger every season. Whether it's a bigger celebrity cameo or whether it's like a, you know, a bigger adventure. You know, Bob and the kids don't need to go to New York and then they don't need to one up it by going to Africa and then they don't need to one up that by going to space. They can just, you know, hang out at Wonder Wharf. You know, not being able to necessarily afford to even ride all the rides. It's to going cool. It's awesome.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah. Raiden 428 is saying schools are turning out, turning out kids that I'm editing this slightly. That aren't worth minimum wage. Onshored manufacturing will have to be automated. Right. It has to be.

[Luke Lafreniere]

It's hard.

[Linus Sebastian]

It's really hard. It's really expensive. And guess who makes all of the best automated manufacturing and why would they give it to you?

[Luke Lafreniere]

Things are gonna be really interesting.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah.

[Luke Lafreniere]

As like not a world power, really. We're kind of on the sidelines at all.

[Linus Sebastian]

You even have to add the really?

[Luke Lafreniere]

I don't know. I was trying to soften it for my patriotic Canadians out there. I don't even know if we're gonna be a world hockey power in the next 10, 15 years. Dude, have you seen enrollments?

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah. We're like our, our, our era of dominance is over. Especially at goalies. No one can afford to be a goalie anymore.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah. It started with insanely. Yeah.

[Dan]

Been the down Canada.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yep.

[Dan]

Yeah. That was our Rome moment.

[Linus Sebastian]

Jack Layton and Tim Hortons, those two.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Oh, dude. Oh dude. The Canadians in chat are all like, yeah, can't afford to play hockey. There's no more ice. Like, yeah. I, at one point, I don't know why, but I was driving past the Planet Ice saying coquillum and I was like, this was when I was still shopping for badminton center. And I was like, okay, I had kind of given up on finding a facility and I was like, gee, I wonder what like Planet Ice would cost. Maybe I could because obviously it zoned correctly for a recreational sport. Like, like, like could I, you know, do badminton there instead or like something near there. Anyway, the point, long story short, I looked into what it cost and it's basically like, oh, okay, so real estate prices have gone up so high that unless you're charging like you know, hundreds of dollars an hour for ice time because the hockey rink is so big, unless you're charging hundreds of dollars an hour for ice time, you are completely running at a loss even on just your monthly operating expenses, let alone, you know, paying down a mortgage or paying rent. Like it's, it's not feasible. Don't blame the rink operators. Blame the completely unsustainable cost of the real estate and the energy that it takes to run these things. Like it's, it's flipping wild. I mean even the community centers which are so expensive for community to build now that it's borderline unfeasible like like in Surrey and this is a fast growing city, we are woefully under resourced for like community centers. They have, they've built some new stuff, but not nearly enough to account for the population growth. And I totally get it because where is this freaking money supposed to come from? They're so expensive to build. So when you take the kids in for swimming lessons, they will have like, I kid you not, eight plus groups kind of like cordoned off into their like little spots on the ice to go, to go practice ice skating. Like imagining that you're going to get in like, like real team sport hockey practice at an affordable price is just, it's a, it's a dream. Like when I was a kid, I had a friend who was not a high income, they weren't a high income household, but both kids were in hockey. They had all the gear. They did, they did goalie training, they did coaching, they did, did. And I'm looking at it now and I'm going, there is single income. There is no way today that that family lives in a detached home.

[Linus Sebastian]

Not at all.

[Luke Lafreniere]

And this, this is in the 90s. This isn't even, this isn't even the 80s. Okay, so this is mid-90s. That was a single income household. Plus some like hustle work from time to time for the Other income with two kids, hockey lessons, two cars. It doesn't exist anymore. And someone was asking, like, do you think the, you know, the boomers kind of wrecked it for everyone or what? I can't speculate on that. All I can say is that the reality that I grew up in is gone. Is gone. So this is a depressing show. Want to do some merch messages?

[Dan]

Yeah, sure, why not? But let's see if they get better. Someone cheer Luke up with the downfall of late stage capitalism. Do you think the world will.

[Luke Lafreniere]

No, Dan, that's not a merge message.

[Dan]

With Steam OS becoming more of a thing, would you do another challenge where you and Luke switch as your main OS for a month, playing both newer games and older titles such as supcom?

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yes, I want to. I want to do it again. I. I've been waiting patiently for steamos to be a thing.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah. Is there a specific point where we would do it again?

[Luke Lafreniere]

What I was waiting for was for Valve to say, okay, SteamOS is ready for primetime as SteamOS, not as the OS that we run on the Steam deck.

[Linus Sebastian]

So are we still waiting for that?

[Luke Lafreniere]

I don't think we have to. I don't think we have to. I mean, wait. No. Oh, I'm the only one who's Radeon right now, but I mean, that could be one of your challenges. I'm still Radeon, so I could conceivably install Steam OS tomorrow. So. Yeah, maybe. Maybe we're not waiting for anything. Maybe it's time.

[Linus Sebastian]

Are we just both doing Steam OS then?

[Luke Lafreniere]

No.

[Linus Sebastian]

Okay. Yeah. Yeah.

[Luke Lafreniere]

But I would go Steam os.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Just because I don't. I don't want to deal with nothing.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I want a nice installer that I just install and then I use my computer and I just play games and I don't think about it.

[Linus Sebastian]

Cool. Yeah.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I am so ready to have a Steam machine in my living room, though. Or in my family room, actually.

[Dan]

That's what I'm doing. Straight to Steam os.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yep. Like, dude, Windows as like a living room, man. It's. And it's funny, like, Microsoft was so kind of ahead of the game. Remember Intel Viv or Vive or whatever? And Windows Media Center Edition.

[Linus Sebastian]

Media Center Edition.

[Dan]

So good.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I. I blame the cable. I blame the US cable companies for blocking cable card because, dude, like, entertainment on the PC was like, poised to be a thing. Eat a dick. Comcast and friends. All right, what else we got? Hello.

[Dan]

The face, the laugh, and the heart. If the plus sizes are still soon TM are 4 XL plus shirts longer as well as wider, hopefully avoiding the common trap. Yeah.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Oh. If plus sizes are still soon, are the four XL plus shirts longer as well as wider? I think a little bit, but they're not tall longer. You reach out to support, maybe reach out to support. Just. They are a little backlogged right now. We've had a lot more shipments go awry than usual because of, you know, global logistics being completely. So our poor support team has been kind of buried. We're throwing more resources at it. But the thing you guys. And I don't want to make excuses, but I do need to offer an explanation. The thing you guys need to understand is our customer support is onshore. These are employees. These are not just like random people in some call center somewhere with a script that we can just be like, hey, call center, we need 30% more resources this week.

[Dan]

Oh.

[Luke Lafreniere]

So we have onboarding. We have hiring, onboarding, training. And the thing that's really challenging is the times when you need to onboard. Most the people who would do that onboarding and training are busy answering tickets. So we kind of screwed up and we missed an opportunity when things were slow before Shipstorm. But then we didn't know ship storm was coming. We thought our next big event was going to be, I think, lime day.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah.

[Luke Lafreniere]

So, yeah, we.

[Linus Sebastian]

Nobody knew this terrorist.

[Luke Lafreniere]

We bunged it up. So they might be a little while to get back to you, but they will get back to you eventually.

[Dan]

Ild any tips for how to avoid info dumping about a project you've been working on? I'm doing a presentation about my final project for my degree as an industrial electrician, and I think I might overdo it.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Practice?

[Linus Sebastian]

I thought you meant info dumping, like to your friends.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah, that's why I said don't practice. Find your SO or your mom and do the presentation. And don't count on them to tell you when they're bored. Watch their body language. When they start to potentially record it. Fidget or. Or like look around or kind of glaze over a little bit, then you know that's boring.

[Linus Sebastian]

Like time sync your recordings. Yeah. And record yourself and record them and potentially get a few people. If you could get multiple people, maybe at least three people.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah.

[Linus Sebastian]

To watch it then. Because I feel like if it's one person, they. They like, feel like they have to pay attention.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah.

[Linus Sebastian]

But if there's a crowd, even if it's three people.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Well, three is a crowd.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah. You might be able to get away with them.

[Luke Lafreniere]

My wife's boyfriend says Though.

[Linus Sebastian]

Oh, boy.

[Luke Lafreniere]

No, I'm just spending too much time on our slash. Wall street got it strong.

[Linus Sebastian]

What was I gonna say? Yeah, they might feel like it's more socially acceptable to kind of drift off or whatever. And you want that because that's going to be the scenario that you're presenting in.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yes. I am old enough to remember the show three's Company. Not because I was actually around when it was airing, but because. And I've. I've actually. I think I was talking about this last week we had sat satellite TV and one of the channels that we had was like oldies. So like, I've watched a fair bit of all in the Family. I Love Lucy, three's Company. They're so good. Like, so good. Especially I Love Lucy. Lucille Ball is a pioneer.

[Dan]

The Plex update. Are you aware it was all to do with separating music so that it could become part of CarPlay and Entertain Android Auto?

[Luke Lafreniere]

No. Nice. Good work, Plex. Mine is still broken, but I think it might actually be like a true NAS permissions thing or something. I'm having. I'm having to look at it and try and fix it for me. They actually say that I'm a super useful tester because I managed to find edge cases like nobody else, which is weird because I ain't trying to do anything that complicated. And to be clear, I'm not running Hexos right now. I'm running kind of like. Like a weird borked. Like I installed Hexos when it was like pre, pre, pre alpha and then we just configured everything in true nas. But then I've updated Hexos so like the front end kind of like is is new, but I changed a bunch of stuff on the back end that the new front end like doesn't reflect. It's a whole thing. My experience should not be the same as anyone else's.

[Dan]

I dll finally purchasing a screwdriver. Luke, did you figure out APIs for accessing pricing on the lab's website?

[Linus Sebastian]

Some of them, yeah.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Some will just have to scrape, right? I mean, we would never scrape. That's dad.

[Linus Sebastian]

Actually a conversation that we were going to have to have. But I think I know the conclusion now, so thanks. Good job.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Good meeting. Verbal irony.

[Linus Sebastian]

I think the stance was going to.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Be that we would never scrape if.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Unless we were forced to.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah. I think the. The line is basically gonna be if a company is overtly like, we don't want you to scrape for any reason, then it's like, all right, well, we won't like I know of one that.

[Luke Lafreniere]

We would never do that despite having.

[Linus Sebastian]

Laid out all of the potential benefits and the complete lack of any effort that they ever would need to do. They don't want it. So it's like, okay, we're not going to do it. And then their prices just won't be featured on the site. And it will be harder for their customers to buy their products. And it is what it is. I don't agree with their decision, but it's entirely their decision. So cool. But there's some outlets that, like, might not have any of these features at all. And we can be like, hey, we can just do it. And if they're like, sure, then we'd be scraping. Scraping. That's the current, I think, makes sense stance that I was going to take.

[Luke Lafreniere]

What if there was, like, a third party that scraped the outlet that didn't want people scraping, but we just, like, used.

[Linus Sebastian]

We just use their data.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah, because then we're not doing it.

[Linus Sebastian]

If this is the stance you want to go with, it sounds good.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I mean, people. The. People need pricing data.

[Linus Sebastian]

The Internet is being ravaged right now by scrapers. To pretend that's not happening is, like, hilarious at this point. So, yeah, I think I don't care that much anymore.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Oh, yeah, but we would never scrape.

[Linus Sebastian]

I cared a lot in the past.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah, we would never do that. But if, like, the data was, like.

[Dan]

There just on the web page, like.

[Luke Lafreniere]

If it was on our site, like, it wouldn't be because we scraped it.

[Linus Sebastian]

Right.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Right.

[Linus Sebastian]

We're just using a publicly available list from someone else.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah, maybe. I don't know.

[Linus Sebastian]

Right.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I mean, I don't want to know where it came from necessarily. I just know that I would never scrape.

[Linus Sebastian]

Okay. Yeah, got it.

[Dan]

Personally, you would never be the one to copy.

[Linus Sebastian]

And no, Linus is not going to go to his monitor with a squeegee just like.

[Luke Lafreniere]

No, I wouldn't.

[Linus Sebastian]

He wouldn't do that.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I wouldn't do that. My monitors are filthy.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Look at this display. It's disgusting.

[Dan]

Oh, God.

[Linus Sebastian]

It's actually gross.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah, See, there you go. Hold on. Oh, yeah. Wait, can.

[Dan]

It's even worse. There, that's better.

[Luke Lafreniere]

So gross. See, I wouldn't scrape.

[Linus Sebastian]

Nope. Never.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I don't know, man. I mean, if you're. If you're displaying someone's pricing information for the purpose of driving customers to their website, I mean, it seems pretty straightforward, doesn't it? It really does.

[Linus Sebastian]

This particular store wants to drive people to come in physically.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I mean, that's nice. But that. How are they going to drive people to come in physically if they don't know the price of the product? So that's pretty asinine.

[Linus Sebastian]

Cool.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Cool.

[Linus Sebastian]

Is it Best Buy? I'm not answering who it is.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Oh, yeah. We're not going to be answering who it is.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah.

[Luke Lafreniere]

We're just going to have pricing information probably obtained from some third party. Who? I don't know where they got it.

[Linus Sebastian]

Who knows?

[Luke Lafreniere]

Who knows?

[Linus Sebastian]

Who knows even who they are.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I don't know who they are.

[Linus Sebastian]

I don't know. Next one.

[Dan]

Linus, have you watched the Anno 117 trailer? It looks like they may be bringing back land combat like we had in 1602.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I haven't yet.

[Linus Sebastian]

11 days ago.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Oh.

[Dan]

Gameplay looks like new. New.

[Linus Sebastian]

I didn't even know this happened. You wish to be a Roman governor. That's a cool.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Efficient grids boost productivity. Yep. This looks like annual. Right.

[Linus Sebastian]

I feel like they saw the memes of, like, every dude thinks about Rome and they were just like, okay, done.

[Dan]

You have one day. Easy.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Build your lumber camps wisely. All right. Yeah. I mean. Yeah. This. Oh, this looks like animal. Right?

[Linus Sebastian]

I was gonna say it looks great. It looks like a Roman skin, but it looks great. I'm not complaining about that. To be clear.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Whoo.

[Linus Sebastian]

I wouldn't want them to change it too much to be gonna.

[Dan]

Bit steamy in here.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Things are.

[Linus Sebastian]

Ooh, like that. You saw a cargo ship.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Oh.

[Linus Sebastian]

Oh.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Trade and alliances can build. Okay, so where are we seeing this Land combat? Yeah.

[Linus Sebastian]

I haven't seen anything that indicates land combat yet. Personally.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Trade and treachery. Yeah. Well, I don't. I don't see anything like that yet.

[Linus Sebastian]

Whoa.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Build a coliseum.

[Dan]

Let's go for your robot.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I'll play it.

[Linus Sebastian]

It's. Yeah, of course. Is this gonna play the heck. Yeah.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Oh.

[Linus Sebastian]

Okay. I didn't even do this. I scrolled down. How often do you think about the Roman Empire Anno players. Yes. It's. It's to. It's the meme. Dude. Wait. Land. Yeah. People in the comments. Land Comet is back on the menu. Why did we know if we did we just not see that part?

[Dan]

You might have skipped through it.

[Linus Sebastian]

Nobody time stamped it. Come on.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah. Just YouTube commenters. Timestamp more. A lot of the time I have no idea what you're talking about. That cow's walk was hilarious.

[Linus Sebastian]

What? Where people don't.

[Dan]

That's how you know this is in game footage.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah, True.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah. It's. It's AI. It's all just fake.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Is that five minutes, apparently.

[Linus Sebastian]

Five minutes.

[Luke Lafreniere]

How'd I miss that?

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah, you were right there. Were you?

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah, I thought so.

[Linus Sebastian]

That doesn't indicate anything, by the way. This might. That sure did, actually.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Oh, okay. Land and naval combat, maybe. Interesting.

[Linus Sebastian]

Wow. They show it for half a second maybe.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Cool.

[Dan]

More?

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah, hit me.

[Dan]

Hey, dll. How do creators cover the significant hours and cost to get to Computex? Are most on comped flights and hotel or chancing that Views plus Sponsor will cover. It seems like a significant outlay.

[Luke Lafreniere]

It's a very significant outlay. So what we do is we sell sponsorships for the videos ahead of time. We get in touch with as many brands as we're able to. A lot of them are really cagey about telling us what they're going to have at the show, which is, is, I understand, you know, their perspective, but also it is supremely unhelpful when we are trying to manage, like you said, the hours and cost that the show entails. So we, we basically get sponsor commits up front for a number of videos that we'll produce. We usually under promise and try to over deliver. And then we do those videos and we make sure that the numbers kind of pan out. Honestly, this year, not great. We didn't get as much content as we would have liked. We did get as much as we promised because we, you know, we tried to play it safe. But even some of the content that we did get, like that gold GPU didn't have to be a Computex video. I just was desperate for something to make a video about. And I was like, okay, why don't we arrange to buy a gold GPU while we're there and then, and if there's nothing then we'll just like use that as one of our Computex videos. I could have done that here. And so that was just an additional US$8,000 of cost for that video. That is on top of, you know, the cost of being in Taipei. I mean some of it was creator warehouse. I think it was only somewhere between 12 and 15 people were there from LMG like actually working on video stuff. But that is huge. Like hotel for a week, flights to and from. That is an enormous cost. And I suspect we, we didn't lose money, but I don't think we made much on Computex this year. So I'm, and that that's why it.

[Linus Sebastian]

Would be helpful if companies just told us what they're freaking bringing because it's, it's very unlikely that we're not going to go to the show. But we might have a different amount of people going.

[Luke Lafreniere]

It would help us with resource allocation for sure. I think next year we'll take a smaller team. Team.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah. I mean, if. If it's anything like this year, I think you'd have to.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Oh, yeah. It was so slow this year.

[Linus Sebastian]

It's like content is not there.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Two GPUs that nobody wants and then a processor that nobody can afford. And that was from. That was what the A players had.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Cool.

[Linus Sebastian]

And everybody else didn't have much.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah.

[Linus Sebastian]

Slap AI on it, make no other changes.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Slap a screen on it, make no other changes.

[Linus Sebastian]

And a bigger one. Is there a screen already on your CPU cooler? Cool. Make it this big. For some reason, like, what are we doing?

[Luke Lafreniere]

It's not like they don't look cool. Like, it's not like I don't understand it. If I see a build on our slash battle station. So that's a big screen on the cooler. I'll be like, that's pretty cool. You put your nyan cat on there or whatever. Like, I like. I get it. Why people might buy it, but don't expect us to be excited about it from like a technical standpoint. That's all.

[Dan]

More.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Oh, yeah.

[Dan]

Lus, are you still torturing yourself with a bubblees in the fridge or on a new drink?

[Luke Lafreniere]

No, that's still my. My garbage drink that I hate. That is my. My. My methadone so that I won't drink soda. Oh, yeah. If I crave something, something ice cold and carbonated, then instead of grabbing a soda pocket pop, I go for the bubbly. It's very helpful that I. I think cola sucks and I can't drink it. Well, I can drink it, but it sucks. Well, I shouldn't say it sucks. Cane sugar. Coke is pretty good. Can be pretty refreshing on a hot day. But cola is not really my favorite. So in order to go for. To have soda available for guests, but that I won't drink, I just keep Pepsi and Coke in the fridge.

[Linus Sebastian]

Fridge.

[Luke Lafreniere]

So because most people will drink cola. Oh, no. My weakness is nesty or like sweetened iced tea.

[Dan]

Like so much sugar.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Dude. I would go to Red Robin. They have bottomless drinks. I'd go there back in the day and I would literally down like half a dozen tall iced teas over the span of like sitting there and conversing and appetizers and meal and after and stuff like, oh, so bad. Speaking of, like, actually a week's worth of calories.

[Linus Sebastian]

Really bad vices. That was another thing that I struggled with in China more personally. This used to be much more of a thing in Taiwan and to Taiwan's credit, it's not nearly as much of a thing these days. I don't know if you've noticed this change, but smoking.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Oh yeah.

[Linus Sebastian]

Incredibly rampant in China and they don't have any problems with it as far as I can tell. Being done indoors.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah.

[Linus Sebastian]

So everywhere you go there's just clouds.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah.

[Linus Sebastian]

And I don't do super well with cigarette smoke.

[Luke Lafreniere]

So I was like, well, you're not used to it.

[Linus Sebastian]

Out of it the whole time.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yep.

[Linus Sebastian]

Because I had secondhand smoke every single day.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yep.

[Dan]

You're have to burn your clothes. Did you come back smelling like it?

[Linus Sebastian]

I don't think so because I had fresh clothes and the last day was really short until I was just traveling.

[Dan]

More. I've been looking to get a Framework laptop for a few years now. Do you still carry a Framework around? Will you do a review of the framework 12? Also, as a PC Linux gamer, it's been seamless.

[Luke Lafreniere]

That's good to know. I haven't been on my Framework recently. I've been on my investment disclosure. Investment disclosure. I've been on my flow x13. Um, I like that it has the egpu. I like that it has a pretty powerful onboard gpu. I like being able to turn it into a tablet for like looking at my notes. It has a good keyboard. Battery life could be better. Um, I. I am planning to at least do a short circuit of the framework 12. Pretty excited to see it in person.

[Linus Sebastian]

If there's ever a product or a brand, I should say, what is your laptop doing? Why is it freaking out?

[Luke Lafreniere]

It just does that. I also can't change my brightness. I'm probably going to move off of this thing soon. I can't. Thunderbolt 5 can't come soon enough for me.

[Linus Sebastian]

Tweaking right now.

[Luke Lafreniere]

So I can just not care about XG Mobile.

[Dan]

You could get a Dell and then.

[Linus Sebastian]

It just gave up. And dude, honestly, like these WAN laptops have been the best laptops I've used in a long time.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Just kind of bulletproof, matte screen, super light.

[Dan]

Dude, they don't have the HDMI issue that we had with the other one.

[Luke Lafreniere]

The battery life.

[Linus Sebastian]

They're not like.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Some of the recent Dells are like really good. I don't. Man. They won. Secret shopper. Like huge upset. Victory. I'm still not quite sure how it happened.

[Linus Sebastian]

I'm not done. I'm like three quarters through.

[Luke Lafreniere]

It's not so much that Dell won Everyone else lost.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah.

[Linus Sebastian]

That's the vibe I've been getting so far. Watching through.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yep. Crap.

[Linus Sebastian]

Was I gonna say I had something to say? Don't remember us? Probably didn't matter that much. All right.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Hey, thanks, Jay Thomas. Just some positive support. As someone from the US I truly think the prices on the US are extremely reasonable and honestly not unreasonable compared to other US sites and products. Then you add on the quality, you guys still knock it out of the park. Heck, yeah. Thank you.

[Linus Sebastian]

Thanks, man.

[Luke Lafreniere]

We do our best.

[Linus Sebastian]

What I was gonna say is if there was any company that you really wanted to support, but, you know, didn't want to financially support them that much, just wanted to give an incredible amount of free advertising and have a justified reason. Reason for doing so, you could just invest like five bucks and then just investment disclosure it constantly. It's a good move.

[Dan]

Shill workaround.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Hold on. If I was equally invested in every laptop company, would I have to disclose any of them? No, I'm serious.

[Dan]

I think so.

[Luke Lafreniere]

If I put a quarter million dollars into Dell and a quarter million dollars into Asus and MSI and like everyone, then, then is it. Does it. Do they cancel each other out?

[Linus Sebastian]

I wonder. Because if you. If you were. If you were like.

[Luke Lafreniere]

The answer is no. Calm down.

[Linus Sebastian]

But yeah, but if you were invested in. I'm not very good with stock stuff. If you're invested in a. Am I going to say the right thing? ETF that invested in one of those.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Companies, then you're not responsible for anything. Yeah, that's right.

[Linus Sebastian]

But you would still have an interest in that company doing better.

[Luke Lafreniere]

But given that it's me and that I literally don't even know what Yvonne has investments in, I legitimately don't know. I think we do own some like. Like stock pools, like that mutual fund.

[Dan]

Yeah, that sort of thing.

[Luke Lafreniere]

But I. I literally don't even know what's in it, so.

[Dan]

And you don't get a choice most of the time to buy or sell.

[Linus Sebastian]

If she invests in something and you don't know, and then you don't investment disclosure it when talking about it or its competitors, can you get in trouble?

[Luke Lafreniere]

I don't know.

[Dan]

Oh, I'm sure you could. You can. I don't think you can claim ignorance.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Very easily if it's part of a. Like, please. Oh, no, no, no. Stocks, though.

[Dan]

Like, like, like Yvonne. Yvonne has purchased a half a million in Dell.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Definitely. Yeah. Like, as a spouse. I don't know, man. I. I gotta be honest with you. Though I think it's less a question of, like, is that legal or is that not legal? And more a question of, like, what would the enforcement of that even look like?

[Linus Sebastian]

Practically nothing.

[Luke Lafreniere]

What are the odds?

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah, I mean, we know. We know about a lot of this stuff, and we've received the emails that were accidentally sent to us instead of other people knowing that these people are doing deals. We know, like, I don't know, it's.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Oh, you're talking just like undisclosed, like, sponsorships and stuff. Yeah, I know, I know it's not my place to just, like, become a drama creator and like out other creators. That's not even what we're talking about. That's so that's. That's separate from, like, the stocks discussion.

[Dan]

Anyway, this is for Luke with his new obsession with Westaboos. Have you seen or heard of cowboy action shooting? To participate, you are required to dress up and have a cowboy nickname. It's cosplay with Gun Cow.

[Linus Sebastian]

Okay. What? Cowboy action.

[Luke Lafreniere]

It's a competition.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yo. A little feathered cap going on.

[Luke Lafreniere]

This is a family friendly sport. Real guns with live ammo, with robots, dualies.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah, Dually revolvers. Pull one back a little bit to shoot the other one for absolutely no reason. Let's go. That's sick. It's fun. I used to do it. I don't know. That looks like it's probably fun. I have no idea. Why? Not sure. I'm assuming it's shotgun lever action. Dually revolver. I'm assuming it's three gun. Oh, yeah. Insomniac said it's three gun with old school cowboy air gear. Yeah, that makes sense.

[Dan]

Oh, that's. That's pretty cool, actually.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah.

[Dan]

Yeah, it's real, real, actual shooting sport.

[Linus Sebastian]

You run kind of from station to station and there will be, like, usually on the table, there would be a firearm there with ammo and you would, like, load it and then shoot at that station. Then you go to the next one. One of the stations is probably for your. Your Dually Pistols. I don't know, whatever. Let people have fun. There's so much darkness.

[Dan]

Oh, yeah. Everybody's got to have their special little guy.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah.

[Dan]

Linus, do your kids think your job is cool, or is dad's job always by default, quote, unquote, uncool to kids, even if it's successful? YouTuber.

[Luke Lafreniere]

No, my job is definitely cool. And that's not that seriously, like, I. This. This comes from a place of, like, generally, you know, overthinking almost everything about parenting and, you know, try like legitimately making an effort to not be a super uncool parent, but also not trying to be too try hard. Like I'm trying to kind of of ride the line, you know, Like I game with my kids, but when their friends are over, I try not to insert myself into, you know, their gaming situation, you know, stuff like that. Right. But content creator is litter. Content creator is literally the most desired job on this continent. So yeah, a lot of their friends like know what Yvonne and I do and think it's pretty neat. For the most part they're not weird about it, which is really cool because I just like want to be my kid's dad when we're hosting a birthday party or whatever else. But it's actually, I'd say it's more the parents that make it weird and like ask too many questions and stuff when I'm just trying to like, like be a parent of my kids and you know, flip burgers or whatever. Yeah, overall it's, Overall it's good. It's good.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Dan]

DLL Phil major here. Considering Gabe plus Elon's investment in brain chips, how augmented must humanity be to become inhuman? On the other end, how lacking must a human be to become inhuman?

[Linus Sebastian]

There's tons of arguments, arguments that were already augmented.

[Dan]

Oh, I like that one too.

[Linus Sebastian]

Cell phone. Yeah. There's a lot of people that like basically can't function without their phone attached to them.

[Luke Lafreniere]

How dare you.

[Dan]

So like it doesn't get to use.

[Linus Sebastian]

Is it being wireless? Does it really make that big of a difference?

[Dan]

That's always been my argument. Yeah, it's in my hand.

[Linus Sebastian]

It doesn't leave my pocket, to be honest.

[Dan]

I like that one too.

[Linus Sebastian]

I think, think the like kind of modern era of smartphones has, has already effectively started this.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I don't know the answer to this, but what I do know is that the people who cross that threshold will not realize it because like we just don't. We, we're not. It's like, like when you're hangry. It takes a pretty exceptional person I've observed to recognize that and rectify it. Like to have the self awareness and the, the presence of mind to recognize when you are no longer yourself, even with something that, that is as rapidly or that that onsets as rapidly as that is pretty unusual in people. And so to imagine what percentage of the population would recognize the slow, slow evolution into becoming more and more augmented and how that impacts their, their manner of behavior and their thinking processes, I think, I think would be, I, I just don't think it would be a thing.

[Linus Sebastian]

Here's a question.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah.

[Linus Sebastian]

If your body was failing. You're old.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yep.

[Linus Sebastian]

It's, it's, it's time. You're going to be saying goodbye to the mortal coil sometime soon. And, and you know that whole like freeze your brain thing.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah.

[Linus Sebastian]

If that crew of people kind of figures it out. And it's, it's not freeze your brain. It's brain jar. And it works now you can effectively be a computer.

[Dan]

You transplant your brain from your dying body into a jar. Yeah.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I don't think my brain is important enough. Enough to preserve in that way.

[Dan]

But no, no, it'd still be you.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I know, but I, but like what would I do?

[Dan]

I don't keep making YouTube videos.

[Linus Sebastian]

You could get one of those boxing robot bodies and keep moving around and exist and stuff. You could be there for your kids.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I want my senses. I want to experience things of those.

[Dan]

Or we put you in a body and give you the.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Okay. You keep changing the scenario. But we're talking about a brain in a jar.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Well, a brain in a jar is.

[Linus Sebastian]

You could hook a brain in a jar up to stuff.

[Dan]

This would be. Okay.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Well, it's a thing, if you know.

[Dan]

What mean I mean.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Okay. So hold on. What is it? So I have a mechanical body.

[Linus Sebastian]

Sure.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I can sense things as I would.

[Dan]

Literally just ghost in the shell.

[Linus Sebastian]

I can perceive 100% say that it would be as you would. It could be a little bit different.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Well, that changes the calculus.

[Linus Sebastian]

It might actually technically be enhanced. Like you might have like telescop telescoping cameras and surprise ghost in the.

[Dan]

Ghost in the she.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Coming back to our conversation from the pre show. Does my dick work?

[Dan]

The question you should be asking is, do all of them work?

[Luke Lafreniere]

Okay. And.

[Linus Sebastian]

That'S a, that's a good one.

[Dan]

See, this is why transhumanism.

[Linus Sebastian]

I think the answer would be like, yes, but not the same. Like everything's going to be a little bit different.

[Luke Lafreniere]

One of my biggest I like. Okay. It's not like they aren't making big advancements in delaying aging.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah.

[Luke Lafreniere]

And potentially even reversing aging. There's been some really promising experiments on mice and stuff. And so, you know, it's something that I've like thought about because conceivably, if I were to keep earning at the rate that I am now, I could potentially afford an experimental anti aging treatment once I, I reached the point where. Yeah, I'm about to kick it it.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah.

[Luke Lafreniere]

And there's a couple things that I've thought about, you know, about that scenario. Like, I think it'd be a really interesting like sci fi story where like the people, the rich people who could afford anti aging are like mingled in with the population of like naturally youthful people. And there's like kind of a distrust, like in the dating scene of like.

[Linus Sebastian]

Like, are you actually 170 years old?

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah, yeah. And, and so I'm a 20. Kind of like Blade Runner, right, Where the robots are trying to kind of mix in with the humans. You have these like old people that are trying to pass as, as young people and like live their, their in some cases, second or third or fourth or fifth, you know, lifetime. And the resentment from the, the natural.

[Linus Sebastian]

Like the actual people when it's like, you should have bought a house when you were a fetus and they're like, like, yeah.

[Luke Lafreniere]

And so like I'm imagining the resentment that the natural people. Because I'm, I'm kind of imagining this world is sort of resource limited. And so most of the people being born today can't afford more than one life. And so people who are on, there's this deep resentment towards the people who are on their fifth one. And like, I thought about, okay, like, you know, what would be the markers that, that these, these ancient people would go to great lengths to conceal? You know, one of them might be teaching teeth. You know, they, they would, they would try to have teeth that are not per. Not too perfect, but look, you know, the right age. And they'd have to get them like maybe surgically replaced every five years or so so that they kind of match the, the state of their aging. And so like, it's stuff that I thought about a little bit just as just kind of a fun thought experiment. I think that'd be a really cool story that someone smarter than, more creative than me could write Blade Runner, but.

[Linus Sebastian]

For a bunch of boomers.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah, yeah, you're actually a boomer.

[Dan]

You were born in the 2000s. Get him.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Anyway, one of the things that I've thought about is, you know, the, the heartbreaking story of the person who could afford to extend their own lifetime, but not their spouse and not their kids and what that life would be like. Could I watch my children grow old and die? Die? Absolutely not. I'd rather be dead. And so. And so. Okay, right. So let's say I could afford my wife and kids. Would I be willing to watch my grandchildren grow old and die? Because once the family gets bigger and bigger and bigger and bigger, the resources required to continue to Invest in, in these anti aging treatments grows exponentially until at some point, you know, you run out.

[Linus Sebastian]

If you just worked a little harder 270 years ago, your investments would be stronger now. And now you could keep the third generation alive.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah. Or something like, I don't know. Right. Like so, so the question for me is less one of like would I want to stay alive? And it's more a question of would I want to continue to be alive in a world that doesn't contain all the people that I grew old with? Because I. I mean, looking at some of the aging members of my family, you know, a big part of what makes them lose the motivation to live is watching everyone that they ever formed a deep connection with leave them.

[Linus Sebastian]

It also gets a lot harder to form deep connections with people.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Well, that's the problem, isn't it? And.

[Linus Sebastian]

I think a lot of it is the permanence. When you're a kid, when you make a friend.

[Luke Lafreniere]

A friend.

[Linus Sebastian]

It feels like you now have this friend.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Oh, my daughter's come home from a lesson and they made a friend. And I'll be like, what's your friend's name? They're like, I don't know.

[Linus Sebastian]

But like this person is awesome. And they wanna. And. And now like it's all fluid now. It's like, okay, I meet someone, but it's like, oh man, am I gonna know this person in six months? Is it worth investing time and effort into this?

[Luke Lafreniere]

Are they into it?

[Linus Sebastian]

Like, like what are they?

[Luke Lafreniere]

What do we actually have in common?

[Linus Sebastian]

Because now that you're out of school, a lot of people's motivations are like financial or connection based. Instead of just wanting to be friends.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Especially for people like us. I, I am, I'm very untrusting, deeply suspicious of people who want to cozy up to me.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah, yeah, me too. That's dating in your 30s and 40s. Yeah, I'm sure. I, I have heard that, you know, dating's good or whatever when you're in your 20s and a lot of people get hitched and it gets really bad and then a lot of divorces happen and it gets better.

[Dan]

Everybody's been telling me it's getting better since I was a child. I'm waiting.

[Linus Sebastian]

Oh, sorry. I think it gets better a little. No, you're quite, you're quite right.

[Dan]

There is that interesting lull.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I do think that.

[Linus Sebastian]

Are you running into that you yet? I feel like. Still not for a bit, right?

[Luke Lafreniere]

You can't ask him that on the show.

[Dan]

Why? He can ask me whatever the hell he wants.

[Linus Sebastian]

He can answer. He can decide to not answer it. It's a very inappropriate question from a boss.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yes, it really is.

[Dan]

What about from a friend? Just buddy, buddy up to you. It's after 5:30. We're not at work anymore, dude.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I think the difficulty. Difficulty of dating in your late 30s, early 40s, like, significantly contributed to my sister's decision to take her own life. Honestly, like, she, you know, dark. She had a goal.

[Linus Sebastian]

Humans want companionship.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Well, yeah, she. She wanted. She wanted a life partner. And, you know, it never happened. And I think that it was. Obviously, it's a combination of factors, so I'm not going to pin it entirely on that, but I do think that, yeah, you know, realizing that that was never going to happen was a big part of, you know, just sort of looking into the future, going.

[Linus Sebastian]

What is there for me?

[Luke Lafreniere]

What is there? And I think that lots of other people who didn't have those aspirations or found other ways to get fulfillment would not behave the same way. And I certainly hope not.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah.

[Luke Lafreniere]

But I. Yeah, I think that was a significant factor.

[Linus Sebastian]

That makes sense. It's tough, but like, I mean, again, when you get to this point where it's hard to make friends, connections even. Yeah, 100%, I feel like the ones that you do have either fall off or tend to become stronger. And that also applies to your partner. Like, I understand I've. I've been with Emma now for a long time, but I think. I don't think that's just it. I actually had some surprisingly long relationships when I was younger as well.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah.

[Linus Sebastian]

But I think. Yeah, I think in a lot of ways, ideally, in an ideal situation, you end up having fewer naturally. But the ones that you do have get stronger. And I think that's like a fairly normal part of life. So you want that person to be there.

[Luke Lafreniere]

And then I think losing them hits way harder.

[Linus Sebastian]

Oh, yeah. And like on so many levels, too, because part of you is thinking about how you. You can't recreate that.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Dark24 says, Get a dog. Now I have to live another 12 to 14 years just to take care of this permanent toddler. Nice.

[Linus Sebastian]

There are helpful bits to that.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I actually kind of twisted my aunt's arm into getting a cat, which it's a little complicated. So Dash, our. Our. Our oldest cat has been extremely aggressive with especially one of the. The new cats, and she's been unhappy. So, you know, ultimately the decision was made to have my aunt just take her for, you know, a couple weeks to give the other Cats. A bit of a break from the cranky old lady. And I've been trying to convince my aunt to get a cat for a long time because I, I. She's always had animals. Lovebirds were her thing. And then she had a. A rabbit before that, but she's never had a cat. And she's the kind of person that I feel like just never discovered. She was a cat lady, I was gonna say.

[Linus Sebastian]

It really does fit.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Oh, yeah.

[Linus Sebastian]

Anyway, so I don't mean that in a negative way.

[Luke Lafreniere]

No, no.

[Linus Sebastian]

It's actually amazing.

[Luke Lafreniere]

She's amazing. So she. She held onto her for a couple weeks, and then we took her back, and then we went on vacation. We were like, okay, can you take her again? And so she took her again, and then all of a sudden, she was going on vacation, and we were supposed to take Dash back. Back. And instead we found out my aunt had actually arranged for my grandmother or my step grandmother to. To. To take her for the couple weeks. We were actually kind of like, oh, okay. It would have been. We actually kind of wanted her back for a bit because we miss her, but this was. This was sort of, you know, what we, like, kind of hoped might happen, so I guess that's fine. And then, so now she's actually like. We're like, hey, we're, like, open to taking her back whenever. And she's like, no, we're good, and we can go see her anytime. And she is literally in probably a better home than, you know, she has with us because she gets.

[Linus Sebastian]

She wants to be so much attention, and she wants attention.

[Luke Lafreniere]

She wants to be an only cat. But where was I going with this? Oh, right, right, right. I think animal companionship is extremely healthy for people. People. It's just, you know, the loss can be really difficult. Like, I have another relative that after having a dog for, like, 16, 17 years, that dog lived forever. They basically were just like, I am not open to having my heart broken like this again. I will never get another dog, period. Someone else had a comment that I had wanted to reply to. Oh, yeah. Gremlin Injector says, I blame the downhaul. I blame the downfall of eharmony. They had an amazing system back in 2010.

[Linus Sebastian]

Hey.

[Luke Lafreniere]

But obliterated it after Match Group bought them. It was like, 300 questions that told a third of the applicants that they were not dating material and kicked them off for real.

[Linus Sebastian]

That was the only app I used.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Met my wife on eharmony when it was amazing in 2011.

[Dan]

Interesting.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah. I didn't know that man. Why is it like, why do companies that acquire or like venture capital groups that acquire companies feel the need to wreck them? It's like the thing that made you want to buy it is still there. You could just not break it. Just an idea. I think I was. I think I was on the verge. I was reading an article about someone who did a really. Wrote a really good book about just sort of the insertification of everything and how venture capital is basically just ruining absolutely everything. And you could. We could. We're just watching it happen in real time. Everything from the medical industry to like the veterinary practices that I've talked about before. That's how locally.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah, I mean, they're all rough.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Everything's rough. It's all rough.

[Linus Sebastian]

They really. Like, I. I think it's like just as important. I think it's just as important as them figuring out legislation for AI Stuff. Stuff is they need to solve this. They need to get venture capital investment out of residential. That's. Something is horrifically wrong with that laptop. They need to get out of residential. They need to put caps on certain things, like just completely taking over, effectively creating monopolies. Like, this is. There are.

[Luke Lafreniere]

You have all these like competing companies or whatever, but they're all owned by like a handful of. Full of.

[Linus Sebastian]

Like, it's like, there are laws against this. Stop. Like, do something about it. It's literally ruining the world anyways.

[Luke Lafreniere]

All right, Dan, give us some good news.

[Dan]

Hello, dll, longtime alcoholic, first time public urinator. The show writes itself. Linus, do you ever miss your folding phone? I got a fold six from work earlier this year. I have been loving it. It's especially for multitasking.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah, I do miss it sometimes. I've been really unhappy with the Pixel 9a. I think a bug I didn't talk about last time I complained about it was the proximity sensor. Like some. It. It works great when I'm trying to pull down my notification shade and like I have to like box with it to try and get it down. And then sometimes it doesn't work when I take a call and my ear starts like changing all of my quick settings. Yeah, I really. Yeah, the battery life is so good though. Like, I'm at 79% right now.

[Linus Sebastian]

That's pretty wild.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I haven't plugged it in today. Like, it's crazy.

[Dan]

I'm at 50. Started at 90.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah, you're at 36. Like, dude, this thing is. This thing is nuts. I don't even think about charging it, really. Like, I'll plug it in at night out of habit, but if I forget, it doesn't matter. Yeah, it's awesome.

[Linus Sebastian]

Sorry, I just saw a weird message on my phone.

[Luke Lafreniere]

This isn't a weird message, but this is a weird dude.

[Linus Sebastian]

So you doing okay?

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah, actually.

[Linus Sebastian]

Nice.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah. It would be great if you came to the council meeting, period. I'll let you know when it will be.

[Linus Sebastian]

Oh yeah, I'm trying to get some people too.

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah, that would be good. Cool.

[Dan]

Have you guys been on a cruise before?

[Luke Lafreniere]

No.

[Dan]

There are Alaska ones that leave out of Vancouver.

[Luke Lafreniere]

My wife gets motion sick.

[Linus Sebastian]

Not a lot of Canadians are very motivated to go to America right now.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I wasn't going to bring that up, but okay.

[Linus Sebastian]

Apparently it seems to be somewhat mutual. Not a lot of Americans are coming to Canada right now either.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Oh, okay.

[Linus Sebastian]

So hey, sounds good.

[Dan]

How will we know when the winners are picked for the Rog Upgrade contest.

[Luke Lafreniere]

We want to build what we'll contact you should be pretty soon. I think Elijah was looking through them earlier this week. In fact, if you haven't been contacted for like an interview already, you're out. I think he thinks. I think. I don't know that for sure though.

[Dan]

I don't have a dozen. No for you. And the last one I've got for you guys. Quick question for Luke. Are you still planning on attending open sauce?

[Linus Sebastian]

Abso freaking lutely. I will be there. That's all I got.

[Luke Lafreniere]

We'll see you again next week. Same bad time, same bad channel.

[Linus Sebastian]

Bye. Bye.

[Luke Lafreniere]

That was fast. That was that fast.

[Linus Sebastian]

No, Dan's reaction after I said bye. Not the show.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Almost a four hour show.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah, I did last Cool Guy.