Windows Is Dead To Me - WAN Show June 27, 2025

Summary

The WAN Show - "Windows Is Dead To Me" Summary

Release Date: June 28, 2025

Hosts: Linus Sebastian and Luke Lafreniere

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1. Microsoft Eliminates the Blue Screen of Death

The episode kicks off with a heated discussion about Microsoft's recent decision to retire the iconic Blue Screen of Death (BSOD). Instead, Microsoft has introduced a Black Screen of Death, purportedly to provide better clarity and detailed information about system errors.

• Linus Sebastian [02:58]: "Microsoft has killed the BSOD and introduced the BSOD. That's right, after nearly 40 years of blue screens... but now it's the Black Screen of Death."

• Luke Lafreniere [00:34]: "I'm actually genuinely upset about it."

While Linus appreciates the added information on the new error screens, both hosts express a sense of nostalgia and mild frustration over the loss of the beloved blue hue that became a staple of Windows' branding.

2. Challenges Faced by Independent Reviewers

The conversation shifts to the struggles faced by independent review sites, specifically referencing House Fresh. Linus highlights issues where companies are suing honest reviewers, threatening the integrity and sustainability of unbiased tech reviews.

• Linus Sebastian [01:10]: "Independent review sites like theirs could be headed for yet another kick in the teeth while they're down."

The hosts emphasize the detrimental impact such legal actions can have on the tech review ecosystem, underscoring the importance of supporting independent voices in tech journalism.

3. Latest Tech News: Trump Phone and Custom Steam Controllers

Luke shares updates on lesser-known tech developments:

• Luke Lafreniere [01:17]: "The Trump phone no longer promises that it's made in America. And also, somebody made their own version of a Steam controller too. Pretty cool."

This segment highlights the evolution of niche tech products and the ongoing legacy of branded devices in the tech market.

4. Sponsored Segments

Throughout the episode, the hosts acknowledge their sponsors, including Rove Lab, Proton, Thorum, Dbrand, Dell, and Secret Lab, integrating brief promotional messages seamlessly into the conversation.

5. Deep Dive: Transparent Screwdriver Unboxing and Discussion

A significant portion of the episode is dedicated to unboxing and discussing their latest product—the transparent screwdriver. The hosts explore the challenges faced during its development, such as material selection and manufacturing imperfections.

• Linus Sebastian [05:32]: "They had a QR code. I don't really see the point of losing the iconic blue color."

• Luke Lafreniere [09:38]: "Pretty cool though, as long as you have multiple bit sets."

The transparent screwdriver stands out not only for its aesthetic appeal but also for the technical hurdles overcome to bring a clear, durable tool to the market. The discussion touches on potential future designs and the importance of maintaining product quality despite manufacturing challenges.

6. Nvidia RTX 5050 Release: Perplexing Specifications

The hosts express skepticism over the newly announced Nvidia RTX 5050 graphics card, noting inconsistencies in its specifications compared to previous models.

• Linus Sebastian [27:55]: "It uses the same GDDR6 that the RTX 3050 had... It's like a juiced 3050 but with like more AI."

They question Nvidia's approach to marketing and specification disclosures, pondering the potential impact on consumer trust and brand reputation.

7. Floatplane and Merch Messages Integration

Linus and Luke discuss the integration of merch messages into their Floatplane platform, explaining how fans can support the show by adding a message during their merchandise purchases.

• Linus Sebastian [54:24]: "We think merch messages are the best flipping way to interact with the show because... you can throw money at your screen with a merch message."

This innovative approach allows fans to engage directly with the show while receiving high-quality merchandise in return, fostering a stronger community connection.

8. Impact of AI Summaries on Content Engagement

The episode delves into a critical analysis of how AI-generated summaries by search engines are decoupling impressions from clicks, adversely affecting content creators like House Fresh.

• Linus Sebastian [67:08]: "Instead of search engines referring people to the original source material... they're scrapping the page, spitting it back out, and preventing traffic to the original."

The hosts highlight the financial and visibility challenges posed by this shift, questioning the long-term sustainability of content creation in an AI-dominated search landscape.

9. Tesla's Robo-Taxi Launch in Austin

A segment is dedicated to Tesla's launch of its robo-taxi service in Austin, Texas. The hosts review the service's features, limitations, and initial user experiences, noting both the innovative aspects and operational hiccups.

• Luke Lafreniere [107:43]: "I wasn't okay with it happening, but it's a limited trial so it's understandable."

They discuss the broader implications for autonomous vehicles and compare Tesla's approach to competitors like Waymo, questioning the readiness and scalability of such services.

10. Riot Games Esports and Sports Betting Sponsorships

Riot Games' announcement to incorporate sports betting into its esports sponsorships is dissected, with the hosts debating the ethical and societal ramifications.

• Linus Sebastian [115:35]: "If I had to choose between the survival of the company and the ongoing employment of everyone here, would my principles bend?"

• Luke Lafreniere [115:52]: "I think it's a depressingly bad thing for humanity."

The discussion underscores concerns about the normalization of gambling within the gaming community and its potential impact on young adults.

11. Windows Resiliency and Kernel Security Changes

The hosts explore Microsoft's upcoming changes to Windows security, specifically the removal of third-party security drivers from the kernel to enhance system stability and security.

• Linus Sebastian [129:03]: "Companies suing independent reviewers... is not good."

They ponder the technical and gaming-related consequences of these changes, particularly how they might affect anti-cheat software and the broader Linux desktop ecosystem.

12. Community Q&A and Interactive Engagement

Throughout the episode, Linus, Luke, and Dan engage with listener questions, ranging from technical advice on injection molding and secure devices to personal anecdotes about gaming and technology use. This interactive segment fosters a sense of community and addresses diverse listener interests.

13. Final Announcements and Upcoming Content

As the episode wraps up, the hosts announce upcoming content on Floatplane, including exclusive interviews, reaction videos, and early access to new shows. They encourage listeners to subscribe and participate in the Floatplane community for additional perks and behind-the-scenes content.

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Notable Quotes:

• Linus Sebastian [05:13]: "Why wouldn't it just say that right on the crash screen where any user would know where to find it?"

• Luke Lafreniere [107:55]: "Embracing failures practically always wins."

• Linus Sebastian [115:54]: "We are against monopolies. But Valve is not a monopoly."

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This episode of The WAN Show offers a comprehensive look into the latest developments in the tech world, blending technical analysis with community engagement and thoughtful discussions on industry trends and ethical considerations.

Transcript

[Linus Sebastian]

Psst. Your payments are showing, but with Apple Cash, your payments are private by design. There are no public feeds. Send and receive money privately in messages or with tap to Cash. Switch to Apple Cash. Apple Cash services are provided by Green bank member fdic, everybody, and welcome to the WAN Show. It's gonna be a great show today, is what I would say, if Microsoft hadn't done the unthinkable, the appalling, the inexcusable thing that they did.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I'm actually genuinely upset about it.

[Linus Sebastian]

They have killed the blue screen of death. How can one kill death?

[Luke Lafreniere]

Does it make any sense?

[Linus Sebastian]

We'll be talking about that. We're also gonna be talking about some additional issues this week that House Fresh, who you guys may remember if you watched the big video this week that we did on companies suing honest reviewers that House Fresh highlighted, where basically, as far as we can tell, independent review sites like theirs could be headed for yet another kick in the teeth while they're down. What else we got this week?

[Dan]

Trump?

[Linus Sebastian]

Any good news? Oh, that can't be good news. You already said enough words that I know it's not good news, but sure, do go on.

[Luke Lafreniere]

It might not even be news, to be completely honest. The Trump phone no longer promises that it's made in America. And also, somebody made their own version of a Steam controller too. Pretty cool. That's good news. That's fun, that's positive.

[Linus Sebastian]

The show is brought to you today by. Oh, I did it a little early. Rove Lab, Proton and Thorum, of course, alongside our rap partner, dBrand, our laptop partner, Dell, and our chair partner, Secret Lab. Let's jump right into what is, of course, the big news this week. Microsoft has killed the BSOD and introduced the BSOD. That's right, after nearly 40 years of blue screens, except for that short period with Windows Vista. But nobody remembers that Microsoft has decided that they want to, and this is a quote, improve clarity and provide better information on their kernel panic error screen. So gone is the blue screen of death, and in is the black screen of death, which will now list the stop code and the application that triggered it. But riddle me this, Mr. Luc Lafreniere. What, if anything, would have prevented Microsoft from literally from putting that information on a blue screen?

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah, they didn't have to make literally any changes other than just adding information that should have been there for the last entire amount of time. This is just dumb. I am actually more annoyed than I should be, but very annoyed.

[Linus Sebastian]

Well, I for one, am actually pretty happy about at least part of this.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Oh yeah, the more information is good.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah, the more information is a huge plus. I mean, the number of times that I have encountered an error on a Windows based system and had it just say, you know, error handling, you know, 0x0x8322 and you Google it and it's just like, there's no information. It's like, brother, yeah. If you know what caused the crash, which you must, because there's some kind of code that has to indicate something, tell me. And a lot of the time, you know, I still remember the first time I fired up the reliability history and the. What's the other one? So there's reliability monitor and performance monitor has some reliability stuff in it as well. But the first time I fired up reliability history and I was like, oh my God. It just tells you in plain text this was caused by your Nvidia driver. Thank you. Why wouldn't it just, why wouldn't it just say that right on the crash screen where any user would know where to find it? Like, like that's a huge plus.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I'm actually, I'm actually, I'm super down with these.

[Linus Sebastian]

Pretty stoked on that.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Like, you're, you're. Take it. I just hate when companies take, like. Everyone liked this.

[Linus Sebastian]

I mean, no one liked, you know, getting a blue screen.

[Luke Lafreniere]

No. But they liked that it was the blue screen. It was part of the culture.

[Linus Sebastian]

And you know what Microsoft, I actually really loved when we went from the old blue screen of death.

[Luke Lafreniere]

The little unhappy face was awesome.

[Linus Sebastian]

To the little unhappy face. I liked that they added the progress bar for dumping the error.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Just add the info to this.

[Linus Sebastian]

And the funny thing is they actually like have always had some information about the error, so. And it's actually here as well. That's a really bad screenshot that we can't really, like, see. But there is information. They had a QR code. I don't really see the point of losing the iconic blue color.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Just don't change the color. The rest of it's great. I have no issues like, please, yes, add more information. Fantastic. If the title was Microsoft Upgrades the Blue Screen of Death, it would have just been awesome.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Luke Lafreniere]

It would have been great news.

[Linus Sebastian]

I mean, every time Microsoft has upgraded core operating system utilities, things like Task Manager. Yeah, I think we've met those changes with extreme positivity. In fact, I was, dude, I was back on an older version. I forget what version of Windows I was on, but I was on an older version of Windows that doesn't have a lot of the new quality of life features of the current task manager.

[Luke Lafreniere]

New task manager's way down.

[Linus Sebastian]

And I was like, man, search. Dude, this sucks.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Search is, like, fantastic.

[Linus Sebastian]

What? Search in test manager on window. Oh.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Only in the task.

[Linus Sebastian]

I thought you meant Windows search. I was like, brother, are you actually. Hi.

[Luke Lafreniere]

What are you talking.

[Linus Sebastian]

It's not even April 20th. Like, what are you even doing right now?

[Luke Lafreniere]

Oh, yeah, just the task manager. Well, a really old task manager didn't have search.

[Linus Sebastian]

Oh, yeah, no, for sure. Yeah. Luke rage baiting. A hundred percent.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I wasn't trying to.

[Linus Sebastian]

Okay, our discussion question. And I want to get into this because I actually think that our writing team is on to something here. Please read entire question before reading. Please read entire question before reading. Please read entire question before reading. These are my instructions, so I'm going to ignore them. Microsoft seems scared of their own janky legacy.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Read before reading aloud.

[Linus Sebastian]

When we were working on the.

[Luke Lafreniere]

They lost one word.

[Linus Sebastian]

When we were working on the Altair sleeper build, the brand asked us not to use Clippy in it because of Clippy's kind of controversial history. But the thing that Microsoft, or at least the thing you got to understand Microsoft, huge company. So there's going to be people at Microsoft that totally get it all the way to people at Microsoft who don't get it at all. And most people are going to land somewhere in between. So the particular person we were talking with, which I think actually worked for an agency for Microsoft, not even Microsoft directly tried to talk us out of putting Clippy in that Altair build. But the thing that they didn't seem to be attuned to is that culture moves a little bit faster than corporate policy. And people actually like Clippy now.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Clippy is like people like the prequels now.

[Linus Sebastian]

Kitschy and retro. Like, if Microsoft. Seriously, if Microsoft made like a desk ornament. Oh, giant paperclip with googly eyes and a smile that you could just have as, like, decor in. In your home office or whatever? People would legitimately buy that, like, if they did a limited edition Clippy statue? I. Clippy holds a special place, dude.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah, of course, dude.

[Linus Sebastian]

Would you. Would you consider. Would you consider like, like, you know those little vinyl figurines? Like, little collectible vinyl figurines?

[Luke Lafreniere]

Sure.

[Linus Sebastian]

You don't buy anything, but put yourself in the mindset of somebody who buys a thing.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Elijah.

[Linus Sebastian]

Okay, sure. Would you. Okay, but can't be Elijah because he's too young to remember any of this stuff. Remember the, like, the Little Dog in the Windows XP search.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah.

[Linus Sebastian]

That would, like, go get things for you. Would you buy like vinyl figures, the various XP like search mascots and stuff like that?

[Luke Lafreniere]

Okay, so no.

[Linus Sebastian]

How collectible would that be?

[Luke Lafreniere]

As we've established, I don't really buy stuff, but if they're like, you know, we did a long time ago. We had like a desk budget.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah, yeah.

[Luke Lafreniere]

If I had a desk budget, absolutely. I would buy that from my work desk for sure.

[Linus Sebastian]

Dog the wizard the Little Dog the.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Wizard the Little Dog the Wizard and Clippy as like a trio would go so hard.

[Linus Sebastian]

That would be so cool.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I was reminiscing about the install wizard like last week. Used to be awesome.

[Linus Sebastian]

So do you think this is part of the same kind of. I don't know what it is. Discomfort with sort of troubled parts of your history that we encountered when they didn't want us to have Clippy in the video? By the way, we. We drew a line. We drew a line. We were like, there were a couple of things that were not brand safe enough for them. And we were like, yeah, we figured we probably weren't going to get away.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Fair enough.

[Linus Sebastian]

We pulled it out. But they wanted Clippy gone. We said no Clippy stays. And we were 100% right. Like, the audience fricking loved it. So that was really cool. Microsoft was actually shockingly easy to work with on that. Like, every brand, guys, you gotta understand, every brand has their, like, weird sensitivities and their history and their policies and all that. Yeah, yeah, 100%. What was I. I had a long conversation earlier this week with Bridget and Sarah from Creator Warehouse, and we were kind of talking about, you know, what do we envision as the brand for cw? Because up until now, CW has mostly been an internal department that creates white label products for lttstore.com and for Linus Tech Tips and our various media properties. Right. But in the longer term, Creator Warehouse absolutely has the chops to create white label products for someone else or create its own branded entities or whatever. Right. Like, if we're talking on a long enough timescale, 5 years, 10 years, 15, 20 years. Right. What could that team not do? What would you look the CW team in the eye and say, no, you couldn't do that?

[Luke Lafreniere]

They could. They could probably get a rocket into space.

[Linus Sebastian]

Oh, well, okay.

[Luke Lafreniere]

No, I bet you they could just not manned. I bet you an unmanned rocket, they could do it.

[Linus Sebastian]

So, okay, with that in mind then. It was a really cool, really open conversation. And what we were really focused on is sort of what are our core values, what are the key pain points we're trying to alleviate for the average consumer, and what should our brand voice be? And one of the conversations that we kind of got into it a little on was around the words geek and nerd. Okay, so I'm not going to say who was on which side because that's not important for the conversation right now. Well, yeah, like, I don't want to, I don't want people to be like, oh, yeah, that person. They have such a stupid perspective on this or whatever. Because one of the things that came out of that conversation is that while a lot of people are not offended by them or even self identify as a keyboard nerd or a tech geek or whatever the case may be, for a lot of people those words are a little divisive. And so one of the things that I think we kind of settled on at the end of the, at the end of the conversation, although nothing's ever really in stone, I think that the world changes and if we're not willing to change alongside it, then we're going to be left behind. But one of the things that was kind of settled on up until now was, hey, that's not going to be part of like our, our CW corporate branding. Maybe you could have like a super laser focused sub brand that is like, you know, geek wear or, you know, or something like that. Like, and this wasn't even part of the conversation but like, you know, like super streetwear looking, but like everything's a tech reference or something like that.

[Luke Lafreniere]

You, you mean techwear, not streetwear, right?

[Linus Sebastian]

No, I mean like streetwear. Yeah. Call it like geekwear. And it's like styled like streetwear, but it's like everything's got like tech references or something. We wouldn't do that. Like, it's a bad idea. Don't worry. But just like, that's an example of the kind of thing that, you know, I think we could be comfortable using.

[Luke Lafreniere]

A word like, I like that.

[Linus Sebastian]

Like geek for textiles. Textiles. Okay.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Anyway, but like spelled T, E, C.

[Linus Sebastian]

H. The point is that we.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Pretty good Frank Reynolds in chat. It's not me. It's good though.

[Linus Sebastian]

The point is that every, every brand has their own kind of like, sensitivities. And one of the things that, you know, not everyone necessarily realized is that those words can be really divisive for people. And sometimes I think we, we. I think it's easy to project our own feelings on things. So, you know, for us, we're sitting here going, oh, yeah, the blue screen of death is, like, cool. But that doesn't change the fact that for a lot of people working at Microsoft, the blue screen of death could be like, a really negative part of their job. You know, if that's something that they are dealing with basically constantly is partners, customers, their own internal support agents.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Just.

[Linus Sebastian]

Like, just constantly talking about how much they hate this thing because of the negativity associated with it. Like, it's an emotional connection. Every time you see a blue screen of death, something bad happened. I'm not saying I agree. I think that it's also equally an iconic part of Microsoft's brand.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Even the acronym is still the same.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah, yeah.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Like, they're not getting away from anything. They just made it boring.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah. So our, our question is, how do brands navigate the nostalgia for their rocky past while successfully branding for a modern audience?

[Luke Lafreniere]

Embracing failures practically always wins.

[Linus Sebastian]

I, I think, I think the smiley face was. I think the smiley face was a huge win. I think there are ways.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Was an amazing win.

[Linus Sebastian]

I think there are ways that they could make it even, Even friendlier. Like, I think if you had like, you know, a rotating kind of. Okay. Like, you know how Microsoft has those, those automatically rotating wallpapers for your lock screen?

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yep.

[Linus Sebastian]

Like, you can just tell it. Like, I don't know, you pick up. You pick a lock screen, you know, wallpaper for me or whatever. Like, I think if every blue screen looked a little different like that, that'd be kind of cool. Like, that'd be a way. I'm just saying that's a way to modernize it.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Sure.

[Linus Sebastian]

I mean, I think being.

[Luke Lafreniere]

No, just being friendlier in general with it. Like, what do I have, like a section that literally just says, what do I do now?

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah.

[Luke Lafreniere]

And then it details, like some next steps that you could take. Something like that. Yeah, there's. There's a bunch of ways they could make it better. Just being like, oh, we're gonna hue, shift it to black is not one of them.

[Linus Sebastian]

And you know what doesn't make the Trump phone better? It not actually being made in America. The Trump Organization launched a phone and wireless carrier last week with the somewhat not that credible claim that the phone was made in America. Many people rightly were highly skeptical of this made in America claim. And now the website has removed any mention of that specific claim and replaced it with other things. So here, let's go ahead and let's make our way to the phone and see if we can find some of the differences here. Okay. No proudly American.

[Luke Lafreniere]

They have A period after premium performance, but no period after Proudly American.

[Linus Sebastian]

I mean, nothing's really. How do you narrow down the things that are random and weird about a page like this? You know, Luke? Like what? Here, hold on. Can I zoom? Why am I not able to zoom? Here we go. What are these dots?

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah, I don't know. I was wondering if that was. I feel like that's got to be a reference to something. I mean, I'm not sure. Does anyone in chat.

[Linus Sebastian]

No, I wouldn't. I wouldn't assume that. Like this, I guess, on the one, you guys. No, no, those are stars.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Are those stars, though?

[Linus Sebastian]

I mean, they're certainly not aligned in any meaningful way. Whereas, like, this seems like it's got.

[Luke Lafreniere]

The original 14 states. Yeah, I thought it.

[Linus Sebastian]

Is that what this is something. 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12. Wait, hold on.

[Luke Lafreniere]

13, 14.

[Linus Sebastian]

1, 2, 3, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten. Okay, okay, okay, okay. Original 14 states. Okay, that's something. That's something.

[Luke Lafreniere]

So why are they in.

[Linus Sebastian]

So why is there a period here? Is this for the original Mayflower? I'm just asking. I'm just wondering. Okay, so what kind of wording do we have now? Proudly American designed with American values in mind. American proud design. That is the biggest load of horsesh that I think that I have ever seen on a product page.

[Luke Lafreniere]

But the 13 state stars, all the flags, they're in a circle. They're not like, in a random scattered arrangement. What is the reference where they're all just like.

[Linus Sebastian]

I don't know, Luke. I'm over it at this point. I really don't think it matters that much. Okay, American proud design. What does that mean?

[Luke Lafreniere]

American proud design. Seems like a weird way to arrange that sentence.

[Linus Sebastian]

What else do we have? Okay, this is great. This is great. It gets better.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Proud American design.

[Linus Sebastian]

It's brought to life right here in the usa. What. What do you mean by brought? What does brought to life mean with American hands behind every device?

[Luke Lafreniere]

Well, someone has to deliver it.

[Linus Sebastian]

I guess.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Somebody's gonna deliver it.

[Linus Sebastian]

I guess.

[Luke Lafreniere]

We don't have automated deliveries yet. Somebody's gotta, you know, move it once it gets to the port, I think.

[Linus Sebastian]

Oh. The Verge also noted that the specs have now changed. That happened fast. The screen is smaller than before and there is no RAM capacity specified. Our discussion question is, how could this happen?

[Luke Lafreniere]

I mean, that's.

[Linus Sebastian]

How do you go as far as launching a phone and wireless carrier? Like, you think about the amount of work that even the most lazy of wireless carrier Creators would have had to put into something like that to launch a wireless carrier.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I don't know, because they're just on somebody else's backbone.

[Linus Sebastian]

Sure. But you would have had to, like, have meetings, you know, how do you manage to do that much work and not manage to know how big the screen of your flagship product launch phone is? Yeah, like, is it not embarrassing? At a certain point?

[Luke Lafreniere]

Apparently not enough.

[Linus Sebastian]

Our next discussion question is how would you approach a loved one who has purchased a T1 phone? You know what? I'm not gonna answer that. I'm not gonna answer that. Dan. What are.

[Dan]

What loved one?

[Linus Sebastian]

What are we supposed to be. What are we supposed to be doing next?

[Dan]

Well, you've still got time, so why not another topic?

[Linus Sebastian]

Sure, let's do. Let's do another topic. You want to pick one?

[Luke Lafreniere]

Do we want to lift me up? Do you want to pick me up?

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah, let's do a pick me up.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Steam controller electric. Steam controller 2. Electric boogaloo. Do you want to bring up the pictures? He's doing something else with chat.

[Linus Sebastian]

I do.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Tommy B posted a video just over a week ago showcasing their custom Steam Controller 2, which was meant to replicate the Steam Deck's controller layout, including the touchpads he built. He built several PCBs and even the touchpads themselves. He built the touchpads themselves?

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah. Yeah, that's pretty cool.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I didn't actually know that part before throwing it into a retro purple transparent case. I've seen that. It looks amazing walking through the steps he went through to get the controller working in games. Look at it.

[Linus Sebastian]

How cool is that?

[Luke Lafreniere]

Look at it.

[Linus Sebastian]

It's two hats.

[Luke Lafreniere]

So sick.

[Linus Sebastian]

It actually looks shockingly usable.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah.

[Linus Sebastian]

Like, wow.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah, 100%.

[Linus Sebastian]

If Valve just released this, people would buy the crap out of it.

[Dan]

Yeah, probably.

[Linus Sebastian]

And like. Yeah, okay, okay, okay. I get it. It's square, you guys. It's square. There. There are probably a few things that could be done to make it a little more ergonomic, but. But like, foundationally to be able to.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Couch game without a huge coach commander on games that are not traditionally super great for thumbsticks because you have the touch pads. People would love this. That's what they really liked about the original Steam controller. You could play games like Civ on your couch easier, which was awesome. And I know Civ has console ports now, but.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah, but still. Trackpad.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Trackpad better. He added a nice touch of having them separate, just like Joy Cons on a Nintendo Switch.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah. Oh, that's so cool. Having Individual batteries in the two sides. So you can like, game like this if you want. You got your track. It's it. It can be way more relaxed to be able to put your arms down at your sides.

[Luke Lafreniere]

And the best part, everything is open source with lots of other guides in case you want to attempt it yourself. Here's a question.

[Linus Sebastian]

Hold on. Quickly, Dan. Do you mind throwing the link to his video into both the YouTube and Twitch chats? I threw it in floatplane already.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Here's a question. I don't know if there's like a video for us here.

[Linus Sebastian]

That's not really a question.

[Luke Lafreniere]

But in a situation like this, say, with the. The guy.

[Linus Sebastian]

Oh, yeah, no, this guy's on. On our radar.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Or this controller. Oh, I don't even necessarily mean in that way. Oh, like, would it be cool if we just made one following the guide?

[Linus Sebastian]

Making one following the guide is.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Is that fair to them?

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah, I mean, it's open source, but.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah, but making one away from their video.

[Linus Sebastian]

Making one following the guide is super cool. But making one by bringing the creator here and having them show it off and co host has two additional benefits. Number one is we get to highlight a smaller creator.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah. Because that's the core reason why I would want to do it.

[Linus Sebastian]

And number two is I don't have to build it. He already built it. What?

[Luke Lafreniere]

So you're not. You're not gonna build one on camera. You're just gonna look at his.

[Linus Sebastian]

Literally, instead of paying someone on our staff to build one, which realistically is what would probably happen from like a. Because it's cooking show. Right. Like from a video production standpoint. Right. I'm not saying I would never do a DIY project again. I'm just saying that painting my bike almost killed me. I'm just saying that right now I have another project that if I have 2 hours to dink around with something, I'm doing that. Also, I still have to upgrade my ally. I have the jso, like, battery upgrade kit with the back panel, and I got my own project. I do not have a lack of projects, sir. No lack. No lack. I refuse. I refuse to shop at IKEA for that particular furniture. No lack guy. Okay. Thank you, Dan.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I was very enthusiastic. Fantastic.

[Dan]

It fit the rubric.

[Linus Sebastian]

So. Yeah. So I could either pay someone to build it, or I could pay him to fly up here.

[Luke Lafreniere]

No, that's cool.

[Linus Sebastian]

And then we also get to highlight it. I think it's way better.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I get a conflict in my head because I'm like, okay, there's an open source project that I want people to do more and it's making a cool hardware thing that is within our realm. Obviously we should make one in order to boost this. But then the other confusion comes in with this person is also a YouTuber who has their own video on it.

[Linus Sebastian]

So.

[Luke Lafreniere]

So I don't want to take. Yeah, so it's a, it's an interesting concept, but if we fly them up, I mean that just.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah, that just. That just kind of solves everything. Yeah. And then you also can in some cases get a little bit of context that wasn't really present in the original video necessarily. Yeah, no.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I mean there's always the, like you release a video, start seeing some comments, whatever else, and it's like, oh, yeah, okay, it would have been cool if I said this or said that or whatever.

[Linus Sebastian]

And I like collabing. I like meeting with new people. I, you know, we don't. We haven't always found the most time for it necessarily, but when we are able to do it, I think it's, I think it's just, it's a win, win and there's. There's no reason not to. So I think, yeah, I think we'll just, we'll. We'll just reach out and you know, no guarantees. Maybe he's.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah, that might not be interesting or.

[Linus Sebastian]

Maybe it doesn't work for our schedule or maybe we realize, you know, after chatting that you know what his video said, everything that needed to be said about it. So there's not really a whole lot more meat on this chicken. So I'm not, I'm not promising it'll work out, but hey, it doesn't. It doesn't hurt to start a conversation. The worst thing that can happen is we meet someone new.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Linus Sebastian]

And we collab and then they hate us forever, you know?

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah.

[Linus Sebastian]

I mean, that only happened once.

[Luke Lafreniere]

New topic or what? Yes, sure.

[Dan]

You have 13 minutes left.

[Luke Lafreniere]

We talk about another one. Riot Games Esports sponsored by Sports Betting.

[Linus Sebastian]

This. I thought you were picking pick me up topics.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Is there any more in the dock?

[Linus Sebastian]

I think so.

[Dan]

You got like one a month.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah. The RTX 5050 is coming out.

[Luke Lafreniere]

That's a. That's a pick me up.

[Linus Sebastian]

Well, it's a pickup for the.

[Dan]

Take your time.

[Luke Lafreniere]

This last Tuesday, Nvidia announced that the RTX 5050 starting. Vidya announced the RTX 5050 starting at 249. I'm struggling today. Their announcement includes lots of charts, flexing gains with dlss because of course it does. And Frame Gen, but no direct comparisons with those technologies turned off.

[Linus Sebastian]

So here's the question.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yes?

[Linus Sebastian]

Has Nvidia learned nothing?

[Luke Lafreniere]

I think they learned a lot, actually.

[Linus Sebastian]

I think they learned that marketing with dlss and Frame Gen on works.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah, I think they learned a ton. I think the community taught them very well, very effectively. Yeah, for sure. It includes 2,560 CUDA cores, the same number that was included in the RTX 3050. Let's go. It also uses the same GDDR6 that the RTX 3050 had. Nvidia apparently chose this to be more power efficient than. But at 130 watts it will still require an external power connector.

[Linus Sebastian]

That's weird. I hosted techlinks today and there was a bit of a conflicting story there. It uses GDDR7 in the mobile variant, which was apparently chosen for its better efficiency and uses GDDR6 on the desktop variant because I guess who cares about efficiency? You're running a desktop. Was the. Was the version of things that I heard.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Oh.

[Linus Sebastian]

So basically, man, how can we. Oh man. Wait, it. Oh man. I was. I was what? I. I missed this part when you were reading through the thing. It actually has the same number of CUDA cores as the 3050 says.

[Luke Lafreniere]

So in the dock.

[Linus Sebastian]

That is actually embarrassing. Yeah, so it's like a juiced 3050 but with like more AI.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah.

[Linus Sebastian]

How am I supposed to be excited about this, Luke?

[Luke Lafreniere]

You're not. Let's go.

[Linus Sebastian]

Okay, our discussion question is what GPU would you buy for $250? So here, let's. Let's head over to. I don't even know. I. You know, I always default to Newegg because I'm not actually American. So I don't actually shop at American. And Newegg was just kind of the go to for so many years. But where do you guys actually shop now? Because Newegg seems to kinda, kinda suck now.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I'm a little scared. I was just gonna say Amazon. Oh. The first answer was Amazon.

[Linus Sebastian]

Okay, there it is.

[Luke Lafreniere]

And the second answer was Amazon.

[Linus Sebastian]

Newegg Best by Amazon Micro Center PC part pickers. Not a store. EBay. Apple. Apple. Okay, you guys are just trolling.

[Luke Lafreniere]

The microcenter came in strong, but they also came in late. The Apple responders are faster, which is concerning.

[Linus Sebastian]

Oh, it's probably that Apple benchmark.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Our fans do human benchmark, but for people that are fans of different things and just see who the better fan.

[Linus Sebastian]

Bases are not ding able.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Human benchmark of Nvidia fans versus AMD fans versus intel fans and see who the best fans are.

[Dan]

What about the AIO fans?

[Linus Sebastian]

No, stop. Okay. That's a thing.

[Luke Lafreniere]

It's a ding. That's what.

[Dan]

That's the one. That's a joke I thought you were making. I don't get to ding myself? No, Lou, that is a privilege for Linus and you.

[Luke Lafreniere]

No, you have to ding it.

[Dan]

I get the sad thing.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Oh, you just muted it and then dinged it.

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Luke Lafreniere]

That's rude.

[Linus Sebastian]

That was awful. That was so deep.

[Luke Lafreniere]

That was rude to the audience. There you go.

[Dan]

Good job abusing the dumb.

[Linus Sebastian]

So what would I buy for 250 bucks? I mean, realistically, the Arc B580 is the only reasonable choice. It's not 250, unfortunately. But it is 250 MSRP, which means, realistically, the 5050 is probably going to come in at around a similar price. This thing is just such a winner. As long as you have a PCI Express Gen 4 motherboard so you're not stuck at eight lanes at Gen 3 speed.

[Luke Lafreniere]

And we. I mean, it's been a hot minute, but we did do videos on how to make a little bit more cash. You can legitimately go mow some lawns.

[Linus Sebastian]

You are not seriously referring to the Blueberry selling video, are you?

[Luke Lafreniere]

No. We did too.

[Linus Sebastian]

It was part of the same series. Yeah. Linus. Summer job. Is that what. Did we. Is that what we called it? Oh, my God. Yeah.

[Luke Lafreniere]

By laptop.

[Linus Sebastian]

There they are. Summer job mowing lawns. Can you earn a laptop? Summer job selling berries? Laptop or bust. Episode 2 Man. 800,000 views.

[Luke Lafreniere]

The mowing lawns one did okay.

[Linus Sebastian]

It actually did kind of okay. I mean, for something eight years ago, it has idea.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Was this.

[Linus Sebastian]

It was me.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I think I like it. Dude, we had little branded shirts.

[Linus Sebastian]

I know, I know.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I wish I still had my shirts from this series.

[Linus Sebastian]

Mo grass. Mo problems.

[Luke Lafreniere]

It was so good, dude. It was so good.

[Linus Sebastian]

Why is this the most replayed part?

[Luke Lafreniere]

Okay, because we're coming back.

[Linus Sebastian]

Oh. People are skipping the sponsor spot, I think. Yeah, okay, but what happened here? Is this the yard that they finally agreed to let me.

[Luke Lafreniere]

What? What was that thumbnail?

[Linus Sebastian]

I don't know. Dude, what a weird video. Going door to door. Man, it.

[Luke Lafreniere]

That part sucked. That part is terrible. Hopefully you know some people in your neighborhood that'll make it a little less weird.

[Linus Sebastian]

Mm. Oh, dude. Door to door sales is an amazing way.

[Luke Lafreniere]

What is that? Where did that come from?

[Linus Sebastian]

Acclimate to rejection? No, it was what someone at the door said, I can't come to the door. I'm naked.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Got it.

[Linus Sebastian]

Wild.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I also found, like. Like, I legitimately did this when I was a kid. I find it's a lot less awkward. I don't know why.

[Linus Sebastian]

What? Door to door sales.

[Luke Lafreniere]

When. If you're trying to, like, door to door sales, like, can I mow your lawn? And you're like, 12.

[Linus Sebastian]

Oh, yeah. Oh, dude.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Dude, not only. Yeah, people want to do it.

[Linus Sebastian]

Being a little girl is like, op. Okay. My. My daughters. My daughters got, like, fundraiser chocolate bars. Okay. They got fundraiser chocolate bars.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Okay.

[Linus Sebastian]

When I was a kid.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Sorry, Keep going.

[Linus Sebastian]

When I was a kid, okay. Whenever I got, like, fundraising stuff, dude, I. I could have walked for miles and, like, struggled to sell, like, you know, bars or whatever. Right. Dude, we walked, like, one block and they blew through, like, 30 chocolate bars. Like, every house bought, like, two or three.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I have, like.

[Linus Sebastian]

I was like, this is ridiculous.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I.

[Linus Sebastian]

All you have to do to kill it as a door to door salesman is be a little girl.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah.

[Linus Sebastian]

And they have ways these days.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Wow. I had a thing that I was gonna say. I really did. Oh, right. I keep changing my car because I have a rule that if there's the.

[Linus Sebastian]

Same car you've always had.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah.

[Linus Sebastian]

Keep changing your car.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I have a rule that if I drive past the lemonade stand, I have to, like, stop.

[Linus Sebastian]

That's pretty cool.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Usually I.

[Linus Sebastian]

Did you get lemonade when we saw that place?

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah.

[Linus Sebastian]

Nice. I was thinking about it, and then I was lazy.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah, I. I, like, have to. Fairly recently, I was driving around with Emma and we saw a lemonade stand, and we were not in my car, we were in her car. And there was no change and no cash. There was no way to, like, buy the lemonade. And it, like, actually genuinely ruined my day. I'm not even kidding, because I remember sitting on the corner with Rich, my brother, trying to sell lemonade when we were like, 10, because we were trying to save up for a SNES. And I remember people driving by and thinking, like, man. And then there was. I think I've even told you this story. There's one dude, and I think it was like a Jeep or something with his girlfriend. And he stopped by and was just like, super cool. Just like, sup, guys? Like, he's telling me. And he gave us, like, way more money than made sense for the lemonade. We gave him extra lemonade, and he was like. And took off. And I was like, I want to be that guy.

[Linus Sebastian]

That's pretty cool.

[Luke Lafreniere]

That's Who I want to be. So I have. I have paid his coolness forward and will ideally do so forever.

[Linus Sebastian]

I like it. I like it. I respect it.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah.

[Linus Sebastian]

So what were we talking about? Overpriced graphics cards.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yes.

[Linus Sebastian]

Dan, what's next? Help us out here because we're.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Please save us.

[Linus Sebastian]

We've drifted. Thank you. Okay, do the other thing.

[Dan]

If you can even explain properly.

[Linus Sebastian]

Oh, merch mess. Stop talking to merch messages, boys. It's a good week to send a merch message. Three years. Here we go.

[Luke Lafreniere]

It's finally ready.

[Linus Sebastian]

Three years and countless revisions later, it's finally here.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I want one so bad.

[Linus Sebastian]

Let's watch the video. We're gonna watch the video.

[Dan]

Are you ready for the video?

[Linus Sebastian]

I'm ready for the video. I'm ready to relive my old memories with a. Oh, wait. What just happened?

[Elijah]

Three more years to make it transparent.

[Linus Sebastian]

No, no. Start over. I missed the beginning. Okay.

[Dan]

Okay.

[Elijah]

This screwdriver took three years to develop, and it took three more years to make it transparent.

[Linus Sebastian]

Cool shot.

[Luke Lafreniere]

So good.

[Elijah]

We always knew we wanted a transparent screw, so we started working on it at the same time as the original. But one problem. The plastic we used for the original cannot be clear. So we had to find a new plastic to make the transparent screwdriver with. And we did. Fortunately, it was around the same time we were having ratchet issues. After switching manufacturers, it helped us peer inside the mechanism and diagnose the root cause of the issues we were having. But it was brittle as. So it was back to the drawing board. And this is where we stumbled on Tritan, a plastic used by some of the world's most popular water bottles. And while more durable, it does present its own set of challenges. It would harden the mold way faster than we would like, and this leads to massive imperfections in the plastic. This also meant that part ejection was a flipping nightmare. Parts would not come off of our molds without cracking, damaging, or flying off into freaking outer space. And because of the difference in thickness between the top and bottom of our handle, any handle made with this plastic would have weld lines all over it. Not only did we have to make the plastic flow faster into the mold by expanding the entry points, we had to change the end cap mold and make the flow more even from top to bottom of the handle. We didn't want to just make new molds that cost hundreds of thousands of dollars. But with a little bit of solidworks and a few modifications to our molds, we could do it for a lot less. All we have to do is replace these parts and we're ready to make a transparent screwdriver. It may be clear now, but getting here was anything but. And I'm excited to finally get this into your hands. Lttstore.com.

[Linus Sebastian]

Hell, yeah.

[Luke Lafreniere]

That was cool.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah, they did a great job of that. And everything Kyle said was right. Man, there were multiple times when we thought, you know what? Forget it. This just isn't worth it. Like, how can it be. How can it be this much bloody work just to, you know, fire a different plastic into a stupid hunk of metal thing to make the bloody shape? And if we weren't so obsessive about things like those weld lines, we could have been done ages ago. They didn't actually impact the structural rigidity of the screwdriver or anything like that. Well, what they looked like. What they looked like was a scratch.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Imperfection, or a crack.

[Linus Sebastian]

And if anybody got this thing and it had a crack in it, they'd be like, I already have a butt. I don't need more things with cracks in them. No, that's not done. Even. Don't even. It's not worth it. It's not worth it.

[Dan]

That does not get dinged.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Question. There's been a few of these questions in full plane chat, for sure.

[Linus Sebastian]

Hit me.

[Luke Lafreniere]

So we figured out the material. Triton. Yeah, it's clear. Fantastic. I love it. I want one. Purple. Clear purple.

[Linus Sebastian]

There's no point hiding the fact that obviously we thought of that.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah, right.

[Linus Sebastian]

Like, obviously, you kind of have to. There's. I mean, look, we had come up with the. With the SNES retro. Excuse me, the retro driver, as well as the Noctua editions before anyone ever suggested them publicly. And those were not the only things that we came up with in our. In our brainstorming sessions. And one of the ones that we obviously thought of was throwback N64. Clear, transparent plastic colors.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah, I think they call it atomic purple. You call it legally distinct, like nuclear purple.

[Linus Sebastian]

So. So, look, I'm not gonna deny that we've thought of it. And now that we have a clear plastic base, I'm not gonna deny that the chances that such a thing could exist are higher than they were before we had a working clear plastic.

[Luke Lafreniere]

This would have to sell decently well, however.

[Linus Sebastian]

Okay, that. But I wasn't even. I hadn't even gotten there yet. So this has to be a commercial success before you see any more clear colors. And number two is that once you add the die, you can change the flow characteristics again. Yeah.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Okay.

[Linus Sebastian]

So if everything goes great and we don't have to do three years of mold tuning again, then obviously we'd love to do it. But that's not a guarantee right now.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Linus Sebastian]

Right now, the product we have for sale is the transparent screwdriver. Should we do a little unboxing? Do you want to do an unboxing?

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah.

[Linus Sebastian]

Here you go. Your very own screwdriver. Yeah. Go for it.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Oh, it's mine.

[Linus Sebastian]

I mean, it is now.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Taking it home.

[Linus Sebastian]

I mean, you could try holding it up into the frame so people can at least see it. Good Lord. Cute box design, right?

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah.

[Linus Sebastian]

Shout out Sarah and her team. Actual wireframe. Our packaging game is, like, so much better than it was back in the. Back in the day. There we go.

[Luke Lafreniere]

You get the LTT card.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah. Heck, yeah.

[Luke Lafreniere]

It shows off our bit sets.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yep.

[Luke Lafreniere]

What's the QR code for?

[Linus Sebastian]

I don't know.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I'll leave a review. Cool.

[Linus Sebastian]

That makes sense. Heck, yeah.

[Luke Lafreniere]

You get your bit loadout. Is it like. Oh, it's a gradient. I see. I was like, okay, yes.

[Linus Sebastian]

You can actually, like, see through it too, which is pretty cool.

[Luke Lafreniere]

There's not like. I mean, the box is cool and stuff, but it's sort of right there.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah. I mean, look, personally, I've always been pretty minimalist when it comes to packaging.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah.

[Linus Sebastian]

I don't like spending a ton of money on something that people are going to immediately throw away. But the team is always kind of pushing back on me for, you know, hey, presentation matters. And I think we've found a good middle ground. There's no waste in there. All of that is recyclable.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah.

[Linus Sebastian]

And I think it looks great. I think they do a really great job of the presentation of the product when you open the box. Absolutely.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I do like that. It's like, very. Like, if I put it all back in here, it's. It's just right there.

[Linus Sebastian]

It's just right there now. They do a really great job. Anyway, it's available now at lmg. Slash transparent screwdriver.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I know I mentioned this, I think last week or whenever the last time we looked at it was, but being able to look like that at the bits that are inside is actually awesome.

[Linus Sebastian]

Hold on, Luke. Cam.

[Dan]

I like it so that I know if there's any missing.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Exactly. I mean, for so many reasons.

[Dan]

Super.

[Linus Sebastian]

You can know whether to be triggered or not.

[Luke Lafreniere]

This had another set in it. We have a bunch of different bit sets. You might have more than just one that fits in the screwdriver being able to check. Oh, is that one that I'm looking for in here is kind of nice without popping it out every time, even though that's kind of fun on its own, right?

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah, no, they. They absolutely killed it on this thing. I'm. I'm so excited to finally bring this to market because we've had, like Kyle said, we've had transparent screwdrivers since before we launched the original screwdriver, but they were just made of a plastic that was so brittle that we couldn't launch it. And like you said that it was with the transparent selector rings that we were actually able to diagnose the issues we had with the ratchets that were delaying the launch of the solid color screwdriver. So transparent was beneficial to us both in terms of the coolness factor and in terms of the legitimate aid that it gave us in our product development.

[Luke Lafreniere]

It is. Can we get close enough that people can see that? I don't know.

[Linus Sebastian]

You'd have to be like, question indeed. Actually here. You know what? Yes, we can, but I'll have to get up and you'll have to talk through it. No, no, Dan, you're. I'll need focus. Focus. Oh, lordy.

[Dan]

Oh, here.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Okay, so it's pretty dark. So are you showing it changing with the selector switch or whatever? Oh, yeah, you can't really see it super well in person you can see it very clearly. But like when you rotate it back and forth to either make it so that it's twist right or twist left or neutral where it's fixed and it's not really ratcheting anymore. You can see the selector switch change for that. Again, due to our lighting and the camera setup, you can't. I mean, you've got like the blank white bit showing right now.

[Linus Sebastian]

No, no, that's not blank. That's the little spring loaded dude that gives it the feel.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Okay, so yeah, he's showing the like haptic feedback of changing the switch right there. There's a little metal spring loaded thing that you can feel now. This is the part you really can't see that well. But that's the rocker. So when you change it to twist left or turn or twist right or the neutral position, you can see it turning. There we go. Yeah, yeah. So you can see like a paddle in there kind of flipping to either side.

[Linus Sebastian]

And then there's also the function that one serves is that's the reverse mechanism. So one of the things that we modified in our ratchet, one of the things that ltt Screwdriver haters love to say is that it's just a Mega Pro screwdriver.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah.

[Linus Sebastian]

It's not. Their ratchet goes the other way. And part of what. What we did was keeping the profile of it the same so that it still fits in this tiny space, but it has that reverse mechanism so that our ratchet goes the direct. So when you turn the screw this way, you flip the ratchet the same way instead of it being opposite, all while staying slim. That was one of the things we did. And then also the, like, the tactile feedback on the little spring loaded at the back, that was really hard to fine tune. And then you were gonna say, when you keep rotating. Sorry.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah. There's one more thing you guys couldn't see, which is as you're actually ratcheting, you can see the little. The thing that is making the click. You can see it flap.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yes, you can. As it. As it goes through the teeth.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah. Which is actually, like, pretty cool.

[Linus Sebastian]

Here. Hold on. Let's. Let's try it. Let's try and get that. That's worth catching.

[Luke Lafreniere]

It's hard to. It's hard to see, but it is genuinely pretty cool. I think that's sweet. I just really like being able to see, because when it mentioned, like, it helped them diagnose the mechanism, I was like, what? Oh, there we go. Yeah, that works. Yeah. And then I think if you go the other way, it's the one on the other side. Right. You'd have to change the direction, but I think it's the one on the other side. I think it's all the way over on the other side of the white piece. Oh, oh, oh, oh. Not there. Yeah, there we go. Yeah, you can see it moving. There you go. There you go. There you go. It's a little hard to capture on camera, but it is extremely obvious. And he's the same person. This is a consistent issue, but, yeah, it looks. It looks awesome.

[Linus Sebastian]

Very cool.

[Luke Lafreniere]

That's wicked. Someone asked if the. If it feels the same. Yeah, it does. I think it feels the same to me. Or at least very similar as the same.

[Linus Sebastian]

It has profiles the same. It comes out of the same mold. We made modifications to the mold.

[Luke Lafreniere]

They're saying, does the plastic result in a different hand feel?

[Linus Sebastian]

No, because the plastic. The plastic hand feels is from the EDM texturing technique that we do on the inside of the mold. So that roughness is intentional, and the slight sort of blasted look and feel of it is very intentional. It could be completely glassy, clear, smooth, if our mold was completely smooth. But we found that this level of roughness and texture was a little bit nicer for grip in the hands. Yeah. Not a ton of grip. It's not the grippiest screwdriver in the world. I'm not gonna pretend that it is. But it adds just a little bit of. A little bit. A little bit to it. It will probably. You know what? I'm not gonna guarantee what will happen over time, but what I have seen is the solid color ones have tended to smooth out with after extreme.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Oh, so you think that might also happen?

[Linus Sebastian]

I don't know. I'm not. I don't. I will say nothing. I will say nothing.

[Luke Lafreniere]

No guarantee.

[Linus Sebastian]

Glad you guys like it. Seems like people are. Seems like people are super, super into it. But that's not all. We also have the transparent collection.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Oh, my.

[Linus Sebastian]

Okay. These are actually pretty cool. Do you want to read out the thing while I. While I put them on?

[Luke Lafreniere]

Sure. Also a question before I start reading that. Is there going to be a transparent stubby.

[Linus Sebastian]

If the full size, which is our best selling screwdriver? If the full size is a huge success, then who knows? There could be a stubby. It could happen. I would. I would never say that for certain. It would not happen. But we do have to evaluate our products based on their potential for commercial success. And the transparent screwdriver will be the. The major indicator for whether or not we will see other colors of transparent, assuming that technically it is feasible and whether or not we will see other designs in transparent.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah. The rest of the blurb. We have two brand new print order designs inspired by the theme of transparency. The X Ray Vision officer Zip up hoodie, which is not the first one he's starting with. So I will switch what I'm saying. And the core.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yes, I'll start with that one.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Featuring the X ray Vision officer Zip Up Hoodie Featuring an X ray of your favorite chief vision officer and his. His. Or at least his teeth. It's you. Taken directly from where we got his wisdom teeth pulled. Improved with $3,500 worth of headgear. I saw it on set before we got here. I didn't realize it was your head. You can see.

[Linus Sebastian]

Hold on.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah. What is the $3,500 for the head? Is that a VR headset?

[Linus Sebastian]

It's an Apple Vision Pro.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Oh, that's funny.

[Linus Sebastian]

So we CT scanned the Apple Vision Pro.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I should have seen the earrings. I see it now. There's the earrings right here. Ah, man, I get it now.

[Linus Sebastian]

And then Those are my actual, like, dental scans. It's funny because I had the idea when I was.

[Luke Lafreniere]

This company is so weird.

[Linus Sebastian]

I had the idea when I was chatting with Lisa who wanted to do like, like this kind of like cool CT scanner. We were like, oh, we should do something with like, clear something. Right? And so she had the idea of doing like, you know, like a. Like a kind of cool skull tech something design. And. And it was like, at the last minute, I think we'd already kind of like approved it. And I was like, yo, Lisa, super weird. But like, if you guys called like my dentist, do you think they just like give you my X ray scans and then. And then could you like, put that into the. Because obviously that's not like my, my skull head case or, you know, whatever, right? So it's like, it's an. It's a skull image, but the dental records and the. The bits that are me are inserted into it. So those are my teeth.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Oh, that's funny.

[Linus Sebastian]

Which is flipping. Well, I can't believe my dentist.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Wait, it's not your case?

[Linus Sebastian]

No, like, at like, we don't. We don't have a clean scan of like my. The top of my skull because they don't take pictures of that when you go to the dentist.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Earrings show up in the dentist.

[Linus Sebastian]

They do. Oh, yeah, because it's like this area here, but they don't have like up here. There'd be no reason for them to blast my brain with X ray.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Narcissus. But for what?

[Linus Sebastian]

For. I don't know. It doesn't matter.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I don't know.

[Linus Sebastian]

Anyway, there's. But wait, there's more. We also have.

[Luke Lafreniere]

And the core memory T shirt featuring a different angle of that X ray and upgraded with more core.

[Linus Sebastian]

Oh, okay. Don't mind that the print quality is kind of faded on this. It'll be like this one. But this is just like. This is a test one. These are print to order, so they'll ship in a little while. But yeah, here, if we can get. If we can get a closer look at this one. You can actually see. You can see the earrings and then. Yep, that's my teeth. That's my toothies. Upgraded with AMD inside, of course.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah.

[Linus Sebastian]

So.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah.

[Linus Sebastian]

Cool, right?

[Luke Lafreniere]

I like it.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah. I thought. I thought Lisa did a great job with these. All right, what else we got here? Anyway, all available now at LMG GG Transparent Collection. What are we complicated? Yeah, I think I'll probably leave that alone. All right. What. What are we Supposed to do now, Dan, we're supposed to explain merch messages.

[Dan]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Linus Sebastian]

If you want to. If you want to interact with the show, all you got to do is, hey, maybe by picking up a cool transparent screwdriver.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Pretty cool.

[Linus Sebastian]

Or one of the transparent collection hoodies or T shirts. Just go to lttstore.com and add something to your cart and you'll see a little box for a merch message. We think merch messages are the best flipping way to interact with the show because unlike a Twitch boot or super chat or whatever, you can throw money at your screen with a merch message. And even if we don't get to your message, hey, you'll get high quality merchandise in return.

[Luke Lafreniere]

A kick chair.

[Linus Sebastian]

A kick chair kit.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Kitchen.

[Linus Sebastian]

Sorry, what are we talking about? Anyway, the point is that. Sorry, that's a bit of a reference to the pre show. Or wait, I don't even think that was on the pre production.

[Dan]

No, that was just our conversation that we had privately.

[Linus Sebastian]

Anyway, the point is, leave a merch message in the cart and it will go to producer Dan, who will. Oh, my God. No. No one's helping me. What was that? Who will reply to your message or will forward it to someone internally who can help you or might even curate it for me and Luke to respond to on the show.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Somebody linked me this. We have a video of it.

[Linus Sebastian]

How cool is that?

[Luke Lafreniere]

It's like someone did cool stuff.

[Linus Sebastian]

So that's the ratchet reverse.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah, I'm sure there's also a video on there of the flappy panel.

[Linus Sebastian]

Dan, do you want to show them how a merch message works?

[Dan]

Yeah, sure. I've got lots here. It's been live for about an hour and we already got about 3300, so I've been in one every 10 seconds so far. Hey, DLL, excited about the new transparent screwdriver? My original all black driver is still kicking and about to have a brother. Question for Luke. What experience do you have in the dfir?

[Luke Lafreniere]

Dfir?

[Dan]

I don't know what that is. A digital forensics incident response.

[Luke Lafreniere]

What experience do I have in digital forensics based on that?

[Linus Sebastian]

He wasn't familiar with the term. I'm gonna say not that much.

[Dan]

Cyber security things.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Oh, well, I mean, officially, not a lot.

[Dan]

Wink. Howdy, dll. This will be the sixth screwdriver I've gotten. After your support team sent me a new one, I was wondering, is there anything that you have bought multiple times just because you like it?

[Linus Sebastian]

Oh, yeah, almost certainly. Oh, man. What am I There's. There's gotta be cereal, not consumables.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Consumables don't count.

[Linus Sebastian]

I just because I like it. Okay, that's the tough part. Just because I like it. Not because I could use a second one, but just because I like it.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I think I have an example.

[Linus Sebastian]

Okay, hit me.

[Luke Lafreniere]

These shorts, they're like way too expensive. My whole thing is that I don't spend money. These particular ones are I think 10 years old at this point. And I wear literally these particular ones like at least once a week. They still look totally fine. They are just tanks.

[Linus Sebastian]

Okay, does this count? I owned a copy of Final Fantasy 6 when I was a kid. As an adult with. I don't even know if I have a working super Nintendo at home. I bought a cartridge. But is that. That's. Is that. Is that more of a collectible?

[Luke Lafreniere]

That's a collectible.

[Linus Sebastian]

That's a collectible. Because I have no intention of actually.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Another one because you like it.

[Linus Sebastian]

I did. I don't know if that counts, man. I'm trying to think I bought another one just because I like it.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah, the tall boy shirt.

[Linus Sebastian]

Like I buy multiple. That's. I consider clothing almost a consumable.

[Luke Lafreniere]

But I've bought like seven of the exact same ones.

[Linus Sebastian]

Okay, tell me this NPC. I bought five pairs of Yonex's 65W X2 shoes. But it's because I'm gonna go through them and depending on their product refresh cycle, sometimes they don't have a wide fit. So I just stocked up on them. Does that count as buying more? Because I like them?

[Luke Lafreniere]

I think the problem with my shorts. Your shoes. My shoes. We're treating a thing that isn't generally seen as a consumable. As a consumable. We like it so much that we're.

[Linus Sebastian]

Oh, badminton shoes are very consumable because of the strain from all the lunging. Like, dude.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Oh, yeah, that makes sense.

[Linus Sebastian]

I should show you what the insides of my badminton shoes look like. They get scuffed like on the inside. The bottoms are fine because you're playing on like a rubber corset.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Is there an example of something that wouldn't wear out that I bought another.

[Linus Sebastian]

One just cuz I like it, man.

[Luke Lafreniere]

It doesn't wear out. It's not consumed.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah. Like I'd buy one of something just because I like it. You know what? I own more Xbox controllers than I need just because I like them. Like I bought for that. Not always. So I bought that one, the Project Scarlet one that was Given out to the developers of. Of the, I believe the Xbox series X.

[Luke Lafreniere]

On topic, you have a transparent one that looks sick.

[Linus Sebastian]

I do.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I saw it at your place the other day.

[Linus Sebastian]

I do.

[Luke Lafreniere]

It looks awesome.

[Linus Sebastian]

It's pretty cool.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Kind of like immediately wanted one because I don't know, transparent stuff is cool, but it's. Yeah, I don't know. I don't. That might be on the collection side of things.

[Linus Sebastian]

With all this stick drift. People are saying Xbox controllers are kind of consumable. I can't even tell you you're wrong, brother. I can't even tell you you're wrong. Oh Lordy. Just cuz I like it.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I feel like we're putting too many caveats on it.

[Linus Sebastian]

Well, their example was the screwdriver, which has a utility to it but is not something that you would expect to like, die. Yeah, there's probably. There's probably tools that I own more than one of, but I wouldn't say that it's ever happened just because I like it.

[Luke Lafreniere]

But if you're going to get more than one of these, you would probably get different versions. And at that point. Are you collecting?

[Linus Sebastian]

I think so. Okay. In that case, I think my Xbox controller counts.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah.

[Linus Sebastian]

Because this could conceivably wear out.

[Luke Lafreniere]

That was the direction.

[Linus Sebastian]

It could be collectible like an Xbox controller would. But realistically, you can only game with one controller at a time. You can only screw with one screwdriver at a time. Well, you know, unless you're in inside out. Inside out compression. Yeah.

[Dan]

Middle out.

[Linus Sebastian]

Middle, middle out. That's right. That's right. I'm gonna go with. I'm gonna go with Xbox controllers. It's really stupid and I actually don't care that much, but I have a bit of a weak spot for cool game controllers.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Xbox controllers.

[Linus Sebastian]

I also, I also have a. That cool Spider Man PS5 controller.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I like the Gears of War Xbox controllers. I've always liked those.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yep.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I'm not even that into Gears of War, but I really like the controllers.

[Linus Sebastian]

German says children. Yeah, I, I did like. I did like my children, so I got another one.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah, that happened.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah. I don't buy them though. I don't buy them. I just. There's other ways.

[Dan]

He rents. It's Vancouver.

[Linus Sebastian]

We'll explain it to you. We'll explain it to you when you're older. It might be a little warm for me to wear a hoodie right now.

[Dan]

Let's throw another one in here. Just because we have a couple. Dear Dynast, Duke and lan. I Work in the defense industry. Working as a senior engineer, trying to push teams to embrace new tech. What are your experiences? You've had to Trying to modernize how people work. I knew, I knew Luke would have this reaction.

[Luke Lafreniere]

You want to take this one?

[Dan]

Yeah, I gotta take it off a long walk off a short pier.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Do you have any thoughts, Dan?

[Dan]

I haven't thought in months.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I was trying to.

[Dan]

Most of my brain is just whiskey.

[Luke Lafreniere]

So Dan has been trying to.

[Dan]

I picked the wrong month to stop huffing glue.

[Luke Lafreniere]

At Linus Media Group incorporated, we use Office 365, Google Workspace, Slack, Trello, Monday.com, asana Reich, Miro Jotform, Google Forms, Google Calendar, Michael Calendar, Google Drive, PowerPoint, OneDrive, raw Word documents. Some people use. What's that thing called? There's Obsidian and then there's also the other one that I don't remember the name of and people use both of them. Notepad, any. Anything you could possibly notion. There we go. Thank you people. You use anything you could possibly imagine that has a Trello, a text input Kanban board on it and anything you could possibly imagine that has a text input and anything you could possibly imagine that has a calendar.

[Linus Sebastian]

In my meeting with Sarah, who I am going to call out here pretty hard, in my meeting with Sarah, she was taking meeting notes in Illustrator.

[Dan]

That is so based, Luke. Let's put that on our SOP as a designer.

[Luke Lafreniere]

That's kind of sick.

[Dan]

It's vector based, lossless notes. She'll never lose them.

[Luke Lafreniere]

So Dan, through a series of events ended up trying to unify a lot of that through another service 15 standards. Hey, there's too many standards. Let's add another one called Airtable and went flawlessly.

[Linus Sebastian]

Okay. In fairness to the people who were being asked to modernize their workflows, no problems. Sometimes. Sometimes there might have been some issues with the workflows and I'm not going to attach blame to any particular party. I have personally found some bugs that maybe they could have been predicted, maybe they couldn't have. So I think that rolling out new workflows and new tools can be a challenge on both sides.

[Luke Lafreniere]

There are entire companies that you can come contract in for hundreds of thousands of maybe over a million dollars to help you do to manage change. And it's tough and some people do better with it and some people don't. And it's part of the process and it's painful.

[Linus Sebastian]

Heck yeah.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Let's go.

[Linus Sebastian]

Heck yeah.

[Luke Lafreniere]

So yeah, it sucks. And that was. I mean this is A very dramatic, very difficult version because we just did everything. This isn't like, like getting the writers to change from Word to Google Docs had pain involved. Yeah, but like was fine.

[Linus Sebastian]

No, that was not that bad because.

[Luke Lafreniere]

It'S not a huge deal.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah, that. And like, Google Docs in time has gotten. Has gotten a lot more usable. It wasn't that pleasant to work in.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Except for search.

[Linus Sebastian]

Search has gotten worse.

[Luke Lafreniere]

The search company doesn't seem to be able to do search anymore.

[Linus Sebastian]

I know.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I'm seriously considering switching to DuckDuckGo just to get away from AI summaries.

[Linus Sebastian]

Some of the default sorting to sorting by relevance will. Like, was it you that I was talking to when I was showing that screenshot of my. My search results in my inbox? I was searching for, like, flight or something like that, and it didn't have my most recent one that was marked on red, but had, like, old, like, ticket itineraries. DuckDuckGo has AI summaries. Oh, wow.

[Luke Lafreniere]

That.

[Linus Sebastian]

I actually did not know that.

[Luke Lafreniere]

You can turn them off or something. There's no escape. Yeah, dude. I. I constantly get flack because I'll be like, hey, can you, like, link me that doc that you have open? And they'll be like, oh, you're shared on it. Oh, my God.

[Dan]

Like, no, that makes me scream.

[Linus Sebastian]

Sure.

[Luke Lafreniere]

But I can't find it. Can you just link it to me? I need the link. It's. It's not going to come up. Then I will literally search for the title of the document in my Google Drive and then show them my laptop and be like, I believe you that I'm sharing on it, but, like, I. I cannot find it. I don't know.

[Linus Sebastian]

Speaking of not being able to find things or speaking of AI summaries on the modern Internet, let's talk about House Fresh highlighting more issues with the modern Internet. If you're not familiar with House Fresh, they were featured very prominently in this video on our channel this week that gained a little bit of momentum and I think really resonated with the audience in a big way because.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Great video, by the way.

[Linus Sebastian]

Oh, yeah. Thank you. I thought Elijah and the housefresh team did a tremendous job.

[Luke Lafreniere]

It's fantastic.

[Linus Sebastian]

In a nutshell, House Fresh reviews air purifiers, and they ended up embroiled in some legal trouble over accusations that they were treating a particular brand unfairly. And we kind of dig into. We talked to House Fresh, we talked to the brand that is. Has been legally involved with them and dug as best as we could. To find the full story. Anyway, what we kind of the conclude, the basic conclusion that we came to is that companies suing independent reviewers over results that they don't like or agree with is not good. Yeah. And not going to be tolerated. And just days later, House Fresh highlighted another issue with Modern. Trying to be a reviewer, that could be a major problem. So it's actually this tweet right here that prompted me to flag this for the Wan show crew, what they're calling the Great Decoupling. And I'll get into a little bit of the more detailed bits in a second here. But what you're looking at here is clicks versus impressions. So obviously impressions would be the bigger number over here and clicks would be the number over here. So impressions are purple and clicks are blue. And even when they were like shadow band in Google, these numbers track together. Your impressions go way down, so your clicks go way down. And then there was a recovery. But then ever since about February of this year, there's been this phenomenon that has been accelerating called the Great Decoupling. When instead of these things mostly tracking up and down together, they now have a very substantial spread between them. And the culprit appears to be AI summaries. So here I'll read through the things. So they show the difference between impressions and clicks that are growing farther apart, mainly due to AI overview results in Google. So instead of search engines referring people to the original source material from which they got their information, they're basically just scraping the page, spitting that back out to whoever's searching for it, and then no longer referring anybody through to the original source, which means no ad revenue, no revenue whatsoever, because it means death. It's not like they're paying licensing fees for this content. I mean, we talked last week about what this is going to mean for news organizations, but. And you know, I guess you could, you could actually probably kind of classify House Fresh the same way. I mean, it's news. Kind of how good a particular product is. Okay, it's not quite news, but I think you guys can understand the parallels here and the impact that it would have on a news organization and also on a review organization. Our discussion question here is like, what. What do. What does someone like House Fresh do? How do they survive when they're not getting clicked through? What would stop Google from. From taking the affiliate revenue, even spitting out the AI summary, including affiliate links? Because that's, that's how someone like a housefresh survives is they objectively test as a particular device and they say, hey, if you like what you saw? Here's the affiliate link. That's how they make their money.

[Luke Lafreniere]

There's a couple people in full plane chat saying, how do you even. How do you know it's definitely the AI summaries having this effect? What else changed? And like, have you analyzed how you use the Internet these days? Like, this is. This is an extremely palpable change. I'm honestly surprised it hasn't caused more of an effect. Like, I, that's. I. Yeah. I don't know. Google change the algo all the time. Yeah. And you can go back through the history of algo changes and watch that those two things match each other. House Fresh is not the only ones talking about this. And then suddenly it decouples and the change that lines up with it is AI summaries. This is like, I don't know, man. I don't know how much more you need.

[Linus Sebastian]

What is this going to mean for the lab?

[Luke Lafreniere]

This isn't. Doesn't mean anything new for the lab, because I knew this the whole time, pretty much.

[Linus Sebastian]

We've talked about this pretty extensively in the past, how the direction AI was going. @ the end of the day, you were just going to ask your LLM, you know, hey, what computer should I buy? And it'll scrape the crap out of our results. And all we can really do is create formats that are more engaging than interacting with an AI chatbot. And I think that's something that we have a lot of good ideas for how to do, but it will take time. I know the lab's been going really slow. If anything, I think our error with the lab was trying to go too fast. So if we do anything.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I don't have any.

[Linus Sebastian]

With respect to. With respect, if we do anything around speed, it will be. Continue to slow down.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Things have been pretty good. It's.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah, things have been really good.

[Luke Lafreniere]

It's not moving crazy fast, but like Linus said, that's by design. I know. There was. There was a post on the subreddit recently. I. I lost my like, actual official Reddit account.

[Linus Sebastian]

Really?

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah.

[Linus Sebastian]

Why?

[Luke Lafreniere]

I can log into it on geodude.

[Linus Sebastian]

Like on your computer at home or wait, your old computer.

[Luke Lafreniere]

My old computer. But there's no way to recover the account. I cannot for the life. For some reason, it's not in my password manager. I have no idea why.

[Linus Sebastian]

So wait, you don't mean you can log into it, you mean you are logged into it?

[Luke Lafreniere]

It's session logged. Yeah. So I can. I can open my browser, go to Reddit And I'm in the account, but there's no. I can't set a password. I can't assign an email to it. There's no single sign on that is attached to it. It doesn't seem to be attached to any email. I think, like, way back on Reddit, you could make accounts without assigning them to emails. And for like, privacy reasons, I just did that. But I can't retroactively assign it to an email now. And I have no idea what the password is. It's not in my password manager. I have no idea what's going on there. So I need to make a new one. But I wanted to.

[Linus Sebastian]

I wanted to probably have a Reddit contact. Like, we could. We could probably get somehow sorted out.

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Luke Lafreniere]

But I wanted to respond to that thread, but couldn't. But anyways, there was a thread talking about how the labs is. Is moving slow. And what I was going to essentially answer with is, yes, absolutely. And I cannot promise it will move faster. I can probably promise it will continue to not move faster. But there is really cool plans. We're probably gonna be doing a video on it soon. But we're doing a lot.

[Linus Sebastian]

We've been hiring a lot, which is.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I. I'm kind of like, if we, if we make a video on this, there's gonna be a bunch of blurry people. And I was, I was thinking of just having, like, titles over their heads.

[Linus Sebastian]

Nice.

[Luke Lafreniere]

So you can tell, like, what we're hiring and kind of what they're gonna be doing. But it's a bunch of people that.

[Dan]

Are technically still like sims with an old diamond above them.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah. And there's. There's some cool stuff coming down the pipe too. It's. It's been good. It's just speed is not really going to be the name of the game eventually. We want to get, like, when a. When a vertical is up to speed, the output of reviews within that vertical ideally will be pretty high, but the speed of adding new verticals especially that is not going to speed up. Yeah, I'm very happy with, with where the lab is at right now.

[Linus Sebastian]

All right, well, let's talk a little bit more about AI stuff. Oh. After we do our sponsors. Okay. Ah, dang it. This. This topic.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Wait, we didn't even finish the announcements.

[Linus Sebastian]

I will get to them. This topic transitions so well into the next topic I wanted to do. Okay, so you and I have kind of seen it coming for a long time that AI is just going to be scraping every website and is going to be just Making that content its own. Oh, and if anything, it looks like, if legal precedent is what I understand it to be, that's going to get easier for AI companies. A federal judge in California has ruled that using copyrighted books to train AI models is fair use as long as you purchased them. But pirated books, those are still off limits. The decision sided with Anthropic stating that transforming legally bought physical books into digital formats for AI training is spectacularly transformative and therefore qualifies as fair use. Fair use here was upheld even though the entire book was copied because the AI model doesn't reproduce the book's contents or. And this one, this is where I kind of go or compete with the original work.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah, that second part doesn't seem legitimate or true at all.

[Linus Sebastian]

Another key part of the ruling is that converting a legally bought print book into a digital file, even just for saving space or searchability, is itself considered a transformative fair use.

[Luke Lafreniere]

That's interesting.

[Linus Sebastian]

That's very interesting to me because every time I ever opened a book, it said something, something. Reproducing this in any form, any form is prohibited by law.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah.

[Linus Sebastian]

The judge emphasized that this print to digital conversion is separate from broader LLM training and qualifies as fair use for its own, own reasons. Shall we allow that to sink in for a moment?

[Luke Lafreniere]

It's very interesting.

[Linus Sebastian]

Our discussion question here is a couple of hypothetical scenarios that I kind of came up with as I was, as I was reading this when I was going through topics for when today. If making a digital copy of a book you bought is fair use, could this apply to backing up Blu Rays then so that I can watch them on my plex, on whatever screen and whatever codec that I deem most convenient for myself. But my understanding is that in certain jurisdictions that is in fact not allowed. Because just like with a book, when you buy a movie, you are not in fact buying the movie. You do not own the movie. You are buying a license for which that disc is a physical key to use that media in the way that is that it is licensed for like for instance. And you can, you cannot like this and you cannot agree with it. And that's totally, totally your thing. Go for it. You cannot like it. But when you buy a Blu Ray at Willow Video, you're not allowed to like host a public event in a public space and exhibit that Blu Ray. You're not allowed to rent a commercial, a little commercial property, set up a big, you know, buy hisenses 110 inch TV, put it in the Front, get some folding chairs and make a little theater and then charge people admission to see it. You are not, you do not own a commercial license to that work. So to me, unless you are buying a commercial license for the book, I don't see how they're. I don't see how those two things can both be true, if that makes sense.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah.

[Linus Sebastian]

I'm not saying one is right or one is wrong. Even I have my opinions. But what I am saying is that those two things cannot coexist. A movie, a work of creative art being licensed only for personal use and not for reproduction or public display, and a book that is licensed only for personal use and not for reproduction or public display should not have such dramatically different rules applied to them.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Somebody needs to do some prompt engineering and get it to output the entire book. Obviously not at once. It won't do that. But if you could get it to output the entire book, like paragraph by paragraph and then prove the output, I feel like you could dunk this.

[Linus Sebastian]

So I had an. I had. So I had another hypothetical question here. So if you were going to. So my understanding is a question. Big part of the argument from the judge is that it doesn't output the entire book like you said. But here's the thing. Even if it only output pieces of the book, like, so it's still ingesting it for commercial use and reselling it. So my second hypothetical example is. Okay, so by that logic, could I take that disastrous garbage dumpster fire of a trilogy, the Hobbit movies, fan edit them into a single movie, and then as long as, what I bought three Blu Rays, like, sell the output. That's crazy.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah. And I'm not saying because it'd probably be really good.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah, I'm not saying it's crazy, like, no one should do it. I'd watch the crap out of that.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Oh, yeah.

[Linus Sebastian]

I'm saying it's crazy in the context of copyright law as I understand it, at the very least. And look, I'm not a legal scholar. What's up?

[Luke Lafreniere]

When Bingo Chronified and full plane chat said, holy. I just typed read me the first chapter of Harry Potter and the Philosopher's stone into meta AI and it actually worked. So, yeah, get it to output the whole book over time, log the outputs, and Disney will love that. Let's blow some stuff up.

[Linus Sebastian]

That's wild.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I think this is not a question, it's a request. Like, I hope that somebody goes through the work of doing that, because I think you just immediately dunk this court case by doing that. Yeah.

[Dan]

How would it know what the book says?

[Luke Lafreniere]

Well, no, it. What?

[Dan]

No if they didn't steal it.

[Luke Lafreniere]

What? You haven't heard the topic, have you?

[Dan]

I've just reproduced the whole thing. Maybe marite write an 8th one.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Dan 8.

[Linus Sebastian]

Anyway, that's I think all I have to say about that I chatter.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Asking if Dan is hallucinating because he's an AI.

[Linus Sebastian]

Could be.

[Dan]

I can't do em dashes in person. It sucks.

[Linus Sebastian]

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[Luke Lafreniere]

Is it?

[Linus Sebastian]

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[Luke Lafreniere]

That's what it says.

[Dan]

It all says right there. This is really awkward now.

[Linus Sebastian]

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[Luke Lafreniere]

You know your favorite band thing. My answer for what your favorite band was for a long time was really obvious. It was blinking a 2 for, like, ever.

[Linus Sebastian]

I mean, that's. That's a. That's a pretty legit response. I think.

[Luke Lafreniere]

A friend of mine sent me a screen.

[Linus Sebastian]

I was more of an ICP kid, but, you know, Blink 182 is valu more than I'd probably like to.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yike.

[Dan]

Legitimately.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yikes.

[Linus Sebastian]

They're so sweet.

[Dan]

They're like the best. They're the best group of people.

[Luke Lafreniere]

All right.

[Linus Sebastian]

I dropped the intro to an ICP song in the live stream yesterday just to see if Elijah would have any idea what I was talking about. Like one person in the entire comment section had any idea what I was talking about.

[Dan]

That is insane. Yeah, that's the least thing I was ever going to expect out of your mouth.

[Luke Lafreniere]

What? No, I'm not surprised at all.

[Dan]

Icp, he says. Yeah, he would definitely fit into that crowd. Yeah, he's very, very sweet.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I laughed. You. I did like some of their songs, but yeah, Blink Money too is my favorite band for, like, ever, somebody said. One of my friends sent me a screenshot recently that showed. What was it like, classic music, something like that. On, like, a You know, song selector thing. And it was Blink 1, a 2.

[Linus Sebastian]

Classic.

[Luke Lafreniere]

It was something. I don't remember.

[Dan]

Golden Oldies.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Let me find it. Let me figure out exactly what it was.

[Dan]

I'm old now.

[Linus Sebastian]

Classic alternative, like.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah, let me.

[Linus Sebastian]

What would. What would Blink be?

[Luke Lafreniere]

I'm gonna dig it up.

[Linus Sebastian]

That's a huge. Yikes.

[Luke Lafreniere]

It crushed my soul a little bit. Did he even send it here?

[Dan]

Yeah, I think classic stations are like.

[Linus Sebastian]

People are asking me what a Juggalo is.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Oldies.

[Linus Sebastian]

I don't know oldies, but I do know that he walks through the streets winking at freaks with a 2 liter stuck in his butt cheeks.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah, see, I remember. But yeah, oldies. Look.

[Linus Sebastian]

Oh, wow. All the small things. Oldies, wow. Huge yikes.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Rough. Rough.

[Linus Sebastian]

All right.

[Dan]

Yeah. A lot of the oldies stations, like the best of the 70s, 80s, 90s, and 2000s. For all you new fathers out there, remember going to the club.

[Linus Sebastian]

Britney Spears. Toxic equals classical music now. Yeah, no, I don't think I can handle that.

[Dan]

Spice Girls.

[Linus Sebastian]

I don't think I can handle that. Stop right now. Thank you very much. I don't get it. Ding. For that.

[Dan]

Fine. I'm still learning the new rubric. This is very difficult.

[Linus Sebastian]

All right.

[Dan]

Do I ding? Do I not ding?

[Linus Sebastian]

Okay, what are we supposed to be doing? Oh, merch messages.

[Dan]

We should definitely do some more merch. Yeah.

[Linus Sebastian]

You want to hit us with some merch messages, Dan?

[Dan]

Yeah, sure.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Well, wait, hold on a second. We still haven't done the rest of the announcements.

[Linus Sebastian]

Let's do a merch message or two first.

[Luke Lafreniere]

All right.

[Dan]

AJ and the man and the other two. Absolutely love the cargo pants. Have you seen an uptick in sales since the shift fashion review? Also, more colors of the new shorts plant.

[Linus Sebastian]

I don't think we've seen any impact on sales one way or the other since the shift fashion review.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Still cool?

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah, yeah. I mean, like I said, the. It's super neat that we're even in the same conversation as, like, global brands. I believe that the creator warehouse team has shot their. Their video, sort of looking at some of what shift fashion said, responding to some of it. I haven't actually watched it yet. I think it's still in the editing queue. So that'll be coming up on floatplane sometime in the next little bit. LMG GG floatplane. And then it will also be going live on LMG clips, which is where when clips go. Just so that I think the optics of us responding on a paid platform would maybe not have been that great.

[Luke Lafreniere]

That's fine.

[Linus Sebastian]

So we're going to have it available for free. I don't know if it'll be up on LMG clips forever. I think a lot of the time when we put exclusives up on LMG clips, they don't stay up forever. So I actually literally do not know what the plan is there. But we are going to have.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Biggest thing is it doesn't like really make sense to be a mainline LTT video. But then like it doesn't make more sense.

[Linus Sebastian]

What someone, someone disagrees with me on cotton poly blend. So we're gonna make like an LTT video. I don't really see how that's valid.

[Dan]

Our response.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Battle of the fabrics.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I'm sure people would care. Just maybe not our people.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah, someone, someone would care. Someone would care a lot.

[Dan]

Sure. Hey.dll can we take a moment to rant about Google TV OS? Why do smart TVs only last a couple years? Bring back the plasma colon. Capital D period. Love the videos and physical products. Keep them.

[Linus Sebastian]

You know, plasmas were like, had longevity issues. Right? That was notoriously like. That was like the drawback of them other than the cost.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Was it ironic? Were they being a funny person?

[Dan]

I don't think so.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Were they being a city?

[Dan]

Haha, they might have been if we look at context and assume that they're. They have all of their brain.

[Linus Sebastian]

I'm actually not sure if I agree that smart TVs only last a couple of years either though, because you can even if your, even if your OS goes out of date or you know, gets like kind of laggy and unresponsive. Most modern smart TVs that I've interacted with have a mode where you can set them to fire up just on one of their inputs and then you can just get like an Android TV box and then you like can just.

[Dan]

Run out of my C2 works.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah, I feel like TVs have been pretty solid.

[Linus Sebastian]

I mean until you break yours.

[Luke Lafreniere]

It was not me. That was not me.

[Linus Sebastian]

Really? You're gonna throw your so under the bus rather than just take it like a man?

[Luke Lafreniere]

I also didn't say. I just said it wasn't me.

[Linus Sebastian]

Well, you're the only two people who live there. You were gonna throw your bird under the bus.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Maybe. Maybe it was a bird.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yes, maybe a bird ran into a 26 gram budgie, managed to break your television. Yeah, but you should have seen the other guy.

[Luke Lafreniere]

One of them, one of them got out trying to give medicine or something. I don't remember what was Happening. But one of them got out in a. In a bathroom and it kept flying into the mirror lightly. It didn't have a lot of distance to really get up to speed, but it kept flying into the mirror, kind of bumping it, thinking that it could fly there couldn't once it landed. Classic budgie. It's all like scared and stuff. It lands, sees itself in a mirror and immediately is like, friend. Hello. I'm making friends now. Anyways, sorry. No one cares. It was funny.

[Dan]

One more. Hey, Duke, Leonard and Bread RSVP to a wedding, but found out someone I really dislike is going. What should I do?

[Luke Lafreniere]

Go. Anyways.

[Dan]

Yes, the anonymous button hasn't worked on a merch message for a while.

[Linus Sebastian]

Oh yeah, these are. None of these are anonymous. Oh, wait, here's one. This one's anonymous.

[Dan]

Okay, skill issue.

[Linus Sebastian]

Maybe you could just type the name Anonymous. It could actually be a problem. So maybe we can look into it.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Someone would have changed.

[Linus Sebastian]

Someone I really dislike is going. Okay, well, I do have actually some pretty good advice for this. That person you dislike, don't them. Don't hook up with them at the wedding.

[Luke Lafreniere]

It's good advice. It's good advice.

[Dan]

Where were you a decade ago?

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah, see? See, I could have saved you, Dan. I could have saved you.

[Dan]

Thanks.

[Linus Sebastian]

Okay.

[Dan]

I ruined a reception.

[Linus Sebastian]

More advice, more advice. Okay. Don't strip down. Don't strip down in the middle of the wedding. And if you do, don't dance. Don't dance on the table. Okay, in all seriousness, it's not your day. Yeah, it's the couple's day. If they want you there, then you know what? Do your best. If you absolutely can. I mean, I don't think it's like it, like if you cannot attend this event without, you know, fighting this person that then don't go. Right? Yeah.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Don't, don't do anything that would disrupt.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yes, it is not your day. It is their day. But with that in mind, it is their day. It is not your day.

[Luke Lafreniere]

If they really want to fight, have a pre written in an envelope invite to them. And if they start making a thing, hand them the envelope. And the envelope is a time and place.

[Linus Sebastian]

And so if you wanna, if, if you want to be there to support them because they obviously want you there, otherwise they wouldn't have sent you an invitation. Then you should just. You could politely ask to be seated at a table as far away from this person as the venue allows.

[Luke Lafreniere]

And unless it's the bride and groom.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Ask like a Bridesmaid or like someone in the one of the groomsmen or something. And if that absolutely cannot be accommodated because it's a super small wedding or something like that, then you just, you have to make the choice that's right for you. I would recommend if you are not able to attend, you know, send it like a nicer gift, you know, at least so you can show you were thinking of them. You know, drop them a note on the day. Send them a. Send them a gift that's kind of on the nicer side. Just make some effort. Make some effort, that's all.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Don't be dramatic.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah. Oh sure. Yeah.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Finish announcements maybe?

[Linus Sebastian]

No. What are you doing?

[Dan]

My job.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Now we're gonna get yelled at so much.

[Dan]

Sammy. Sammy just appeared like Slenderman a second ago.

[Linus Sebastian]

So he did. What is he still doing here? He should go home.

[Dan]

Just judging you for not doing the announcement on time.

[Linus Sebastian]

There's never been a better time to subscribe to floatplane and here's three reasons. One, tons of amazing content exclusives. Coming up we have an upcoming Linus and Taran our CEO interview to mark Taran's two year anniversary on July 1st. That dropping the same day. Oh okay. So that's coming out on the same day as his two year anniversary anniversary. We also have Linus reacts to awkward staff interactions and we shot that ages ago. I've actually talked about that on Wednesday. That was very uncomfortable for me to. For me to watch. I was watching people describing their first time meeting me and how awkward I was. We also have The I spent 24 hours with Linus in Taiwan fake news. The last two are coming out during lime day. Speaking of lime day, that's Reason number the second floatplane members are going to get 24 hour early access to the deals that we will [e-mail] they will be announced next week and that is. Oh, do you not know about this?

[Luke Lafreniere]

No, I know about it. We don't have flow plane login on the global store, so.

[Linus Sebastian]

Okay, Luke's going to send a quick message. We will figure out some stuff. And finally, number three is early access to Scrapyard wars. We don't have a set date for the first episode but like last year each episode will be available early on floatplane and each episode will contain extras on floatplane. A basic five dollar tier will net you all of these. The amazing exclusives already out. Like the scrapped original transparent screwdriver from a year ago. What is this Scrapped original transparent screwdriver from a year ago. What am I Looking at. That's our Shopify 1 million orders thing is this. Oh, oh, yeah. Okay. Yeah, there you go. He's doing screwdriver things. And I think there was one other, one other thing. What is, what am I looking at? Dennis Prank extended. Okay, yeah, cool. So that's, that's a brand new exclusive that just went up. You can also hang out in the floatplane. WAN chat. So don't miss out on any of the this by going to LMG GG, slash floatplane evil fuzzy asks. What about the $3 OG subscribers? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, of course. Don't worry, we got you. All right, topics, you ready for a topic?

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah.

[Linus Sebastian]

Tesla has launched robo taxi. Kind of last Sunday. Tesla launched sort of, it's highly anticipated robo taxi service in Austin, Texas. This launch included a limited geo fenced area of Austin that has been thoroughly mapped by Tesla and it was available by invite only. So we've got a link to the geofenced area and then we have a Google Maps link for reference. I'm just gonna pull these up here and screen share with you guys. So here's Google Maps and here is the Tesla area. Okay. Oh, wow. Is that, is that as small as it looks?

[Luke Lafreniere]

It's not all of one city.

[Linus Sebastian]

Oh, it's not even two. It's not even close to all of one city. It's like. Yeah, okay, what are the city limits? What am I even, what am I even looking at here? So here, wait, where's the two, where's the 290? Okay, why am I. Yeah, why am I looking at, why am I looking at these layers? Okay, so Lakeshore Boulevard is here. Why am I having such a hard time with this? Did I zoom in on kind of the wrong spot? Oh, I think I might have lost it. Here it is. Okay, I think I got it now. So basically it's just along. It's just along here. Why is, why is the 35 not labeled here? Okay, what is this one? Is this like 71 or 290 or something? What is this? Okay, I'm so confused. Oh, here's the 71. Oh, okay. No, it's a little bigger. It's a little bigger than I thought. It's a little bigger than I thought. Okay, here we go. Here we go. Here we go. So the 71 here, where it converts to the 290, that's right here. There we go. We've managed to, we've managed to map this out here. And then it kind of goes up to here and kind of kind of to here. So it doesn't make its way into rolling wood here. So that's. Wow. So it's this little chunk of Austin right here.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Cool.

[Linus Sebastian]

Can we see it? I mean, that's something, you know, right? That's kind of something. So if we. If we go to the. The satellite view. Yeah, I mean. Oh, yeah. Okay. I was gonna say. I mean, that's most of the, like, populous areas, but I. Austin's a real. Austin's a really big. Austin's a really big city. Wait, this isn't still Austin, is it? No, it can't be. How big is Austin? Yeah. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Neat. So that's cool. A number of kind of pro Tesla influencers received invites for the service. And Tesla has not stated when the service will be available to the general public. The trial includes 10 to 20 Model Y vehicles that have a robo taxi decal on the side of the vehicle. And cars included a Tesla Employed safety monitor in the front passenger seat that can react to dangerous situations by pressing an emergency button. Got it. All fares within the service area were set to a flat $4.20. Nice. And there are multiple videos of passengers live streaming their experience from start to finish. There were some issues with one passenger finding their Tesla at the pickup location. Oh, there were some issues with passengers finding their Teslas at the pickup location. This is like Pokemon hunting, one person on Herbert Ong's livestream said. But it's like robo taxi hunting. And the riders were asked by the safety monitor to show identification when getting into the vehicle. Once seated, the rear screen instructs riders to fasten their seatbelts and presents a start ride button. Because riders booked the car through the Tesla app, their preferred music app is available on the rear screen with playlists and saved tracks. That's pretty cool. The rear screen also includes buttons for support if you ever need assistance or pull over to end the trip early. Most riders described their trips as smooth and uneventful, although there are a few clips where less than perfect behavior was caught. So, Dan, I actually need your help for this bit because we don't want to watch these videos on the WAN show because that would be rude. So what we're going to do instead is we're going to link everyone and we're going to have a little watch party. Yeah. So if you could link them to the first one first, we're going to start watching together. So, Luke, do you want to load it up?

[Luke Lafreniere]

Sure. One sec.

[Linus Sebastian]

Okay. And ready, Luke? Yep. And play. Okay. Oh, wow. It was going really slow. Okay. So that's what we're supposed to see. So the Tesla in the left lane is one of the. One of the cyber cab Tesla's.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Oh, not the car that's driving. Okay. The car that's driving seemed.

[Linus Sebastian]

The car that's driving seems to be doing fine. But that one in the left lane is going like super slow.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Okay, got it.

[Linus Sebastian]

Interesting. I mean, I would say that that's probably not the end of the world as far as things go. Okay, number two, ready and go. Oh, boy. I got an ad. Brilliant. What happened in this one? I'm behind you.

[Luke Lafreniere]

It's kind of. Brake slams it seems.

[Linus Sebastian]

Oh, wow.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I don't have audio, but I think that's what happened.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yep. Just for reasons. I mean. Okay. Again, I'd rather it, you know, stop for reasons rather than accelerate for reasons. So that's something. Number three is a safety monitor intervening for a UPS truck that is backing up. So we can see. This is from Dave Lee. And it's going, it's going, it's going, it's going. And this UPS truck is coming. Here it comes, here it comes. We're just, we're chilling, we're chilling, we're chilling some more. We're just gonna chill here. These are the kinds of edge cases though that are the reason that I just.

[Luke Lafreniere]

And it cuts to the outside when it drives away.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah. But the safety monitor doesn't appear to be in the passenger seat anymore there.

[Luke Lafreniere]

So he's driving.

[Linus Sebastian]

I'm gonna double check. That's sure what it looks like to me. I'm gonna zoom. I can't see very clearly. That's what it appears to be to me. And then our. We've got another one that is definitely parked in a parking spot for drop off. Let's have a look here. So that's number four. Oh, wow. Sure. Wow. Is that, Is that a handicap spot that it's like not in at all.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I was watching the other one still.

[Linus Sebastian]

Okay, sorry.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I'm trying to figure out some stuff.

[Linus Sebastian]

Okay. And you know what? Grand scheme of things, these are all pretty. These are all pretty small issues I'd.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Be interested to see. Yeah, like for the amount of rides that they did and the duration of.

[Linus Sebastian]

It, like what the intervention rate is.

[Luke Lafreniere]

And like those types of failures. And then look at humans driving in the same area for the same amount of time and the types and severity of the problems that were caused by them. Now I do agree. I fully expect, if we're going to have some robotic thing Driving, I'm not okay with it. Having the same amount of problems that humans have, especially because like something has to be responsible and all that kind of stuff.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah.

[Luke Lafreniere]

But I am still interested just purely in what those stats are.

[Linus Sebastian]

Charged nuclei 8300 says robo taxi is allowed to use handicap parking. The driver has no legs or head.

[Luke Lafreniere]

That's pretty good.

[Linus Sebastian]

Okay, that makes sense. That makes sense.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Discussion question.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Would you use a service like this in a well mapped area? Do you think there is opportunity for this to work in a busy or challenging environment? Waymo.

[Linus Sebastian]

Okay, but let's. Okay, okay, let's maybe, let's not. I'm going to tweak the discussion question a little bit because Waymo very clearly has the lead here. Yes, they are actually operating unsupervised. And when you factor in how few of these cyber cabs are actually roaming the streets in this very limited geographical area, and then if you look at the tweet of the like launch party and how many remote operators are waiting to take over these things, it's not one to one, I don't think, but they're ready for basically them to like not be working, pretty much. And that does not show a lot of confidence in the actual autonomous functionality of the product. To be clear, Waymo has the ability to intervene remotely in the operation of their vehicles, but my understanding is that it's not such a high ratio of available operators to operating vehicles.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I don't know if you're trying to meme or not, bubbly Charizard, but the Skytrain being fully autonomous does not mean that it's the equivalent to cyber taxis. It's on rails. Literally no traffic.

[Linus Sebastian]

Literally, it's on rails.

[Dan]

Why does it stop at 1:00am?

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah, I mean, I don't know.

[Linus Sebastian]

Well, so that people won't sleep on it because. Reasons, I guess. So more specifically, if Tesla was available here, if a cybercab was available here and Vancouver was sufficiently mapped or whatever, would you get in one?

[Luke Lafreniere]

No, not at this time. I'm not against it forever, but not at this time. That was a very small amount of testing to have a significant amount of what seemed like issues that should be solved, in my opinion.

[Linus Sebastian]

The. Really.

[Luke Lafreniere]

No, they didn't smash in anything, which is great.

[Linus Sebastian]

The really curious thing to me is a big part of Tesla's pitch over the years to investors and owners of their vehicles has been that they're going to own the race to mapping data by just having all of the drivers of all the millions of cars that they've sold driving around mapping these areas. And the way that the goalposts have moved for the launch of this product has been pretty remarkable for me to behold. And I've just got to wonder, like, is it just that investors don't have the tech savvy to. To fully understand what it is that they're looking at and how different what they've deployed is here compared to Waymo and even compared to what they've promised in the past. Like, why did they need to do so much manual mapping of this area if their whole leadership in this space is that they should have the data already? And the claim being made by their CEO is that, well, because we have all this mapping data, we're going to be able to roll out new areas, like, fast. There's going to be thousands and thousands of these cyber cabs on the road at some period. Xyz. But I just, I don't understand how we keep believing these claims. You know, fool me once, shame on. Shame on me. No, fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me. But, like, what about the, like, 12th time I've been fooled? Like, how. Who's accountable at that point?

[Luke Lafreniere]

You for sure. Just saying. And there's been some comments about it. I would get in one. I wouldn't use the service. Those are different things.

[Linus Sebastian]

How. Wait, how are those different? I'm having a bit of a hard time with that.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Like, if I was at an event, like if we were at ces.

[Linus Sebastian]

Oh, and it was like, controlled environment.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah, it's. It's not so much the risk. I just, I don't. Like, I'm looking at a service that, based on the videos, like, barely works.

[Linus Sebastian]

Right. So if you need to go 10 blocks.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Any time I've ever had to get into a cab, I actually need to be at that place in a. A relatively okay amount of time. Like, sure, there are examples where that hasn't been true, but that's kind of usually how it's going. And if it's just gonna, like, randomly pull over because a cop is in a parking lot or something, like, no, I'll go with the Uber.

[Linus Sebastian]

I didn't catch the scale last time I was looking at this. So it looks like the area they have mapped is actually like. It's like a few. It's like a few miles wide and tall and stuff.

[Luke Lafreniere]

It's not tiny.

[Linus Sebastian]

You could conceivably walk it though. Italy. You would. You probably wouldn't. But this guy, this man walks like, he'll. He'll walk an hour. I do them walks to go somewhere.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Especially if I'm in a place that I like.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah. So I'm actually. I'm gonna drop a dot right here, and then I'm gonna get directions to, like, kind of a dot. Like, over here.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah. Luca said you wouldn't call one, but if your friend calls one, you would use it. Yeah, like, I'm not gonna, like, not get in on principle or something.

[Linus Sebastian]

You could walk across the area that they have mapped in on the order of, like, an hour and. And something, but in less than two hours.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Where. Where were we when we. Can you say?

[Linus Sebastian]

It looks. It looks like it. Anyway, if I. If I manage to find the right spot again.

[Luke Lafreniere]

When we did the Gamer House, the.

[Linus Sebastian]

Land House, we were allowed to say the city we were in. Yes.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Where were we? Was it Austin?

[Linus Sebastian]

I think it was Austin. Yeah.

[Luke Lafreniere]

That I probably like half.

[Linus Sebastian]

Fair enough. Oh, my back. Oop. All right, what do you want to talk about next?

[Luke Lafreniere]

What do we got? What do we got? What do we got?

[Linus Sebastian]

Riot Games. Nope.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Sure. No, I'm down with it.

[Linus Sebastian]

Riot Games announced that they are opening up betting sponsorship opportunities for League of Legends and Valorant Esport team in the Americas and EMEA. They stated that according to Sportradar, there was a $10.7 billion betting turnover on just Valorant and League of legends in 2024, most of which likely being in unregulated markets. They've partnered with GRID to be the required source for official stats in any sports betting partnership. They were careful to note that official broadcasts and their social channels will not partake in gambling sponsorships and that teams cannot have their logos on their jerseys. So it will be up to each individual team then to craft how sports betting related content shows up on their channel within Riot's guidelines, content, platform, ToS, and local regulations. Riot will also vet each sponsor.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Sure.

[Linus Sebastian]

Oh. Oh, wow. Okay.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Good thing.

[Linus Sebastian]

I take here, no responsibility for the.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Words good thing to have in here.

[Linus Sebastian]

I take no responsibility for the words that are about to escape between mine. Meat folds.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I wish he was here.

[Linus Sebastian]

Sammy's extremely hot and spicy take.

[Luke Lafreniere]

We need more of these on Wancho.

[Linus Sebastian]

Is that this is good. His TLDR is that esports isn't particularly profitable at the team level. So increasing sponsorship dollars for teams plus Riot taking steps to regulate this is a positive for me. The sport is maturing and this is the result. But of course, be responsible.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I think it's a good thing for the sport. I think it is a depressingly bad thing for humanity. That's my take.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I do think it's a good thing for the sport.

[Linus Sebastian]

I'm. I'm very. I'm very proud that we have never taken a gambling sponsorship. If I had to choose between the survival of the company and the ongoing employment of everyone here, would my principles bend? I have nothing to gain by having this conversation in public and only your opinion of me to lose. The truth is, I don't know.

[Luke Lafreniere]

That's tough.

[Dan]

I actually.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Even. Tough to identify that scenario, you know?

[Linus Sebastian]

Well, yeah, because there'd always be, like. There'd always. There'd always be another way. Like, another way. Could be we cut fans. Sure. Sure, I could.

[Dan]

I mess up Nick, like, right now.

[Linus Sebastian]

No, you're not. Denoli444 says Luke and Linus. Have you seen the gambling stats for young adults in Canada? It's pretty bad.

[Luke Lafreniere]

That's depressing.

[Linus Sebastian]

It's.

[Luke Lafreniere]

It's because it's been extremely normalized. Like, I honestly never thought I'd see this. It was. It was. It's totally taboo.

[Linus Sebastian]

It's quaint to see an old episode of, like, the Simpsons or something where, like, you know. Oh, the. The. The guys are over for. Yeah, the guys are over for gambling night.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Why did.

[Linus Sebastian]

Like, I don't know. I don't know if the Simpsons ever did it, but, you know, like, sitcoms did that. You know, like, aren't you a cop? Yeah, whatever. It's poker night. You know, like that bit. I don't. I don't think anyone would even bat an eye these days.

[Luke Lafreniere]

No.

[Linus Sebastian]

Like, if. If Luke and I gambled right now, would anybody care?

[Luke Lafreniere]

It would be normal content.

[Linus Sebastian]

It would be normal streaming content, which is sad. The platforms wouldn't care. The audience wouldn't care.

[Luke Lafreniere]

You watch sports, which never used to talk about it, ever. It used to, actually. They would actively try to get stuff shut down. And now it is the main advertiser for, like, everything.

[Linus Sebastian]

Dude, I talked about it already.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Casters talk about it.

[Linus Sebastian]

I talked about it already, but it bears talking about again. Or bears merits talking about again. I watched the Stanley cup finals this year. I couldn't believe how brazenly they were promoting problematic behaviors. Problematic gambling behaviors. They weren't just saying, you know, you can gamble. Know your limit, play within it. Like, that is in the past now.

[Luke Lafreniere]

That was before.

[Linus Sebastian]

Now it's like, bet on this one. Don't forget to bet on that one. But have you bet on this other one yet?

[Luke Lafreniere]

Oh, have you put in enough bets? Be quick. It's gonna like the betting for this is gonna close at a certain.

[Linus Sebastian]

Don't bet on just one team. Bet on three teams. Like.

[Luke Lafreniere]

There'S a. There's a commercial that I saw recently where somebody, like, they have a jersey on and they place a bet for that team and then they're like, friend comes over and they're wearing a different jersey.

[Linus Sebastian]

That's the one I'm talking about.

[Luke Lafreniere]

That's a horrible commercial. That is a terrifying commercial because it is promoting stupid betting habits.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah. Just betting at any time, for any reason, for any.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Constantly, no research, no thought process betting based on the most recent random thing you saw. That is what they're promoting. It's horrible. It's actually so bad. God, it like ruins people's lives all the time. And I don't understand. It's so weird to me that so few people hold this opinion now. It's so odd to me. Like, is this me just being a boomer?

[Linus Sebastian]

These two messages are these young kids and they're gambling. These two messages are back to back in floatplane chat. Trashcat says, I'll do the other one first. It's the Frenchiest. Fry says, my boy Scout troop did a fantasy football competition. And fantasy football can be fun. It can be, but oftentimes there's money involved. And I think it's not a ridiculously wild take to say that playing for not money could. Could lead to playing for money could potentially, if you are, if you are the kind of person who is susceptible to be drawn in to that lifestyle. Right next to them. My younger brother got hooked on gambling and is like $10,000 in debt. Those two messages right there, Dude, I t. I talked about how, how much I hated, especially after watching Mark. Mark Rober's video on how rigged amusement, like amusement centers and arcades are. I hated how much those games were training my kids for gambling. Whenever we go, we'd go into them. It's, it's. It's gambling with training wheels. It's kitty gambling.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah. It feels like that whole. I think it's Nescafe. Do you know this story? Am I. Is it the wrong brand? There's a, there's a, there's a coffee brand that wanted to get into. Into Japan. But yeah, you know this story. There's a coffee brand that wanted to get in Japan and they worked with somebody or did some market research or something and found that nobody in Japan likes coffee. They just, they all like tea. So they started introducing, like, kids candies and stuff that were coffee flavored so that the kids would get used. It was Nestle Nescafe.

[Linus Sebastian]

I don't know.

[Luke Lafreniere]

It was someone. The kids would get used to the flavor of coffee. And then they kept doing stuff like that. And now coffee is like an enormous industry in Japan. They got into Japan not by convincing the. The adults that it was good. They got into Japan by Nestle. Owns Nescafe. Yeah. Okay, that makes sense.

[Linus Sebastian]

Great.

[Luke Lafreniere]

By doing. Yeah. By like, effectively advertising to children through getting them used to the flavor coffee.

[Dan]

Psyop.

[Luke Lafreniere]

So. So these little, like. Oh, it's kind of gambling, but it's not really. And it's for kids is like definitely to get kids more into gambling when they're older. That's for sure. A thing. That's one of the this who hot takes coming back to WAN show. I'm excited. This is the whole thing about why I don't balk as hard at the Nintendo game price increase. Because if I. If I'm trying to think, if I had kids and I had to give them a game, I would much rather give them older games or games that don't have microtransactions in them.

[Linus Sebastian]

I'm gonna dump some cold water on that. There's literally gambling in Pokemon Blue.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah.

[Linus Sebastian]

Okay.

[Luke Lafreniere]

It helps that. Also, like, just lose.

[Linus Sebastian]

Also, also I would say that the. Oh, man. Is Nintendo Super Gacha. I don't think so. They'll milk you. They'll sell you amiibos. They'll sell you two copies of the. Literally going back to the Game Boy. They would sell you Pokemon and Red and a link cable.

[Luke Lafreniere]

King of the milkers.

[Linus Sebastian]

They'll milk you, but they're not super Gotcha. Apparently they have gotcha mobile games. You can't. You can't count on anybody. You can't count on anybody these days.

[Dan]

Dang.

[Luke Lafreniere]

That's sad. That sucks. But yeah, I mean, I think there's value to trying to avoid these things. But it is weird to me. There is anti Gambling is like, not that big of a thing anymore. Like, everybody just gave up. And it felt like everybody just gave up at like, the same time. It was weird.

[Linus Sebastian]

I feel like Twitch just like made it super mainstream. You know what? Oh, back to what you were saying about Nescafe and the candies and stuff. That's actually something that blew my mind about McDonald's strategy. Like, McDonald's has been struggling. They've been closing stores, broadly speaking. I don't know if they, like, had a good quarter last quarter.

[Luke Lafreniere]

They're the worst rebrand in the world.

[Linus Sebastian]

But they've basically as Far as I can tell, lost their mojo back when I was making the transition to adulthood. Remember when they brought in, they got rid of the fun kid friendly restaurants with play places and they made them famous. McCafe with the like the green and the brown. And they just tried to. They tried to be Starbucks. And it's like. And something that I've been trying to figure out for basically my entire adult life is what the hell were they thinking? The only reason that anyone I knew ate McDonald's was because they ate it as a kid. And my kids don't even like McDonald's. But I will say that the occasional McDonald's we went to when they were young and they still had more of the ones that had like the. The play centers in them and stuff. They enjoyed going there. McDonald's figured it out. Yeah. Like decades ago.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah.

[Linus Sebastian]

That you just wanted to associate the flavor of McDonald's with happy family memories and you'd be hooked for life. And then they were just like, you know what? Cartoon characters that appeal to kids. No, forget it. Adults have more money. We should appeal to adult. Guess who buys stuff for kids? Are you crazy? Anyway, good luck, McDonald's. Truthfully, I don't care about your success. Your food sucks. And yes, that is just conditioning. So much of marketing Maori in floatplane chat is just conditioning.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Is it Maori?

[Linus Sebastian]

Maori. I don't know. Shubham says McDonald's is not a service company, it's a real estate company. Yeah, but I mean, what's the machine that creates the money to invest in real estate? Like, you gotta. You have to have an operating business. Business. All right. Ooh. Should we talk about Dbrand's Kill Switch 2 case controversy?

[Luke Lafreniere]

What does this say? Hold on.

[Linus Sebastian]

Oh, what are you doing? What am I looking at? That's awesome.

[Luke Lafreniere]

This is sick.

[Linus Sebastian]

Is that current?

[Luke Lafreniere]

It seems like it. See, like that's sweet. Well, that's uninspiring, but.

[Linus Sebastian]

Well, yeah. Why? Why is fast food so much better in Japan?

[Luke Lafreniere]

Looks cool.

[Linus Sebastian]

That's wild. All right.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Make McDonald's cool again.

[Linus Sebastian]

DBrands kill switch two case has been under fire for having issues with Joy Cons detaching when pressure is applied. Dbrand responded on Reddit with a lengthy post with a lot of focus on how the device is generally meant to be held. Uh oh. They outlined that the issue stemmed from some manufacturing tolerances in the case for the Joy Con controllers and committed to dealing with any affected users. But the takeaway from Redditors who saw the post was you guys did not just. You're holding it wrong. Us, did you? A couple days later, dbrand issued a part two to their response. They condensed their longer response down to just four points and acknowledged the shortcomings of their previous response. Dbrand provided us something to read. We f ed up them, not us. This time it's not my controversy Hashtag not my controversy.

[Luke Lafreniere]

It wasn't us.

[Linus Sebastian]

Not only did we up by not seeing this prior to shipping, but we up by responding with 4,000 words that could have effectively been boiled down to you're holding it wrong. Ultimately, debating the right or wrong way to hold a console is besides the point. Customers should be able to hold this thing however they want without the Joy Cons detaching. After reading the feedback, it is clear that neither our response nor the conditional if you're affected solution was welcomed by the community. Since then, our engineering team has dug deep to find alternative solutions. Come up with two and we have communicated this new plan. Everyone is getting a free replacement regardless of whether they're severely affected, haven't experienced the issue, have emailed us a dozen times, or have no clue about any of this. On July 10, we'll know which of the two proposed new Joy Con solutions is going to be viable. One is mass, producible and a real improvement over the current good but inconsistent version. The other is borderline impossible to mass produce, but we're going to try anyway because it will result in a Joy Con attachment that's truly flawless. In the end, you can't say that.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Then not do it. That's so dangerous.

[Linus Sebastian]

In the end, we remain committed to candor, responsiveness and when we f something up, making sure we own it and getting customers the right product. You, on the other hand, remain short.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I like dbrand. Good stuff. They're good stuff.

[Linus Sebastian]

Know what else is good stuff?

[Luke Lafreniere]

I still remember before we had this level of relationship with them. I remember one time at CES I had filmed so many videos and I was mentally cooked and I got to another dbrand sponsorship and I think it was my like 5th of the day or something. So instead of saying the ad read, I just said their name like 50 times. And the next day I was like, oh man, I probably shouldn't have done that. And then they saw it and were like this is amazing. And I was like, whoo. All right, they're cool. Oh man.

[Linus Sebastian]

Lordy. Microsoft doesn't want another crowdstrike incident and is kicking antivirus out of the kernel. Windows is making big changes to cybersecurity, removing third party security drivers from the kernel and running them instead in user space. Kernel space is the layer of the OS with the most privileges, allowing direct access to many hardware functions and resources. And antivirus software typically likes to have kernel access because it provides the ability to handle almost any malicious threat that may have wiggled its way into your system. The issue though, is that kernel access can bring substantial stability issues. A faulty update that was pushed was what caused the crowdstrike meltdown that like actually impacted like world infrastructure was not good. This is why security experts recommend that Microsoft removed third party driver access to the kernel. So in July, Microsoft will be launching a private preview of new features as part of their Windows Resiliency initiative. This announcement comes with quotes from a variety of security partners singing the praises of the move. Notably, though, none of these companies have actually committed to moving their drivers out of the kernel at this time, it's worth noting that Microsoft tried to do this back with Windows Vista, but antivirus companies filed a an antitrust complaint with the EU and Microsoft backed down because it would have made it so only Microsoft can handle kernel level security. Our discussion question then is what methods could Microsoft be taking? Or what what steps could Microsoft be taking to provide security software with the same abilities that they have without providing them kernel access? And I gotta confess, I don't know enough about the inner workings of an operating system to even begin to speculate. Our other question is I don't know what does this mean for kernel based anti cheat software and therefore potentially the year of the Linux desktop? Because that's a lot of the justification that I've heard for why they won't port their anti cheat to Linux is that they can't run at a kernel level and Windows allows it. So if neither of them allow it.

[Luke Lafreniere]

And if that's true, what happens to cheating in video games?

[Linus Sebastian]

So okay, it sounds like you're ready to kind of both sides of this a little bit. You, you clearly as someone who's security minded, do not want anything mucking around with the kernel of your operating system.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yes.

[Linus Sebastian]

However, as a gamer who likes to not be, you know, 360no scoped through the map from the other side of a Tarkov RAID or whatever instance. What are they even called?

[Luke Lafreniere]

No, he is. That was right.

[Linus Sebastian]

Raid. Nice, good terminology. Appreciate what can be achieved through kernel level monitoring of what's going on on a system or in many cases not achieved. But is there a better than nothing argument to be made here?

[Luke Lafreniere]

I think we can't just give up on everything just for the sake of gaming. I Also think that if we really do want to get away from. You can never completely get away from it. But if we want to try to get away from the incredibly rampant level that cheating in video games is currently at, like literally by far worse than ever. And there's a lot of evidence for this, I think we're gonna have to. Funny enough, with the consoles, like kind of exiting the world right now, I feel like we almost need to go back to console like devices. I've said this on Wednesday before. It was a hot take back then. I still have it now. I think you're gonna have to have something that's really locked down and it has these types of like kernel level totally taken over. But I would want it separate from my PC because I wouldn't want that level of security. Other people's security stuff on my PC. Or maybe it's a setup that you can do on your own computer.

[Linus Sebastian]

I'll tell you what's a setup. You setting me up for our next topic?

[Luke Lafreniere]

Okay.

[Linus Sebastian]

Announcements went up last week from Xbox president Sarah Bond and AMD Chair and CEO Dr. Lisa Su about AMD and Xbox's renewed partnership to co engineer silicon for new Xbox hardware. This isn't that big of a surprise. AMD worked with Microsoft all the way back on the Xbox 360 as ATI at the time for the GPU and then provided a custom APU for the Xbox One and Series lineups. It does, however, solidify the direction that the Xbox is taking for their hardware. Bond speaks about Xbox being a lineup across console, handheld, PC, cloud and accessories, with both leaders emphasizing that backwards compatibility is a priority so you can continue to play your old games on new hardware. So does that change anything about what you said where it seems like AMD and Microsoft are coming out and saying, hey, Xbox consoles are not going anywhere. And does that potentially validate sort of your take that there's going to be the PC gaming experience which is going to just come with all the problems of not being able to have kernel level security, hardware level security. And would you consider an Xbox console if it offered a more PC like experience, except that it was just games and locked the crap down?

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah. One of the problems there is there's absolutely cheaters on console and like has been forever. I do think the barrier, at least right now, I would say is higher because than PC. PC cheating on PC is literally like advertised in banner ads on YouTube. Like cheating on PC doesn't require anything anymore. When I was a kid, it was like you had to at least Be like kind of script kitty level.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah.

[Luke Lafreniere]

But you could do it and it really wasn't that hard. Yeah, it was mostly like you had to be script kitty level for the awareness more than anything, not the actual.

[Linus Sebastian]

Ability to not like nuke your computer.

[Luke Lafreniere]

In the process and to even like, know what to look for and stuff like that. Now it's like advertised to you and it's like white glove service and you pay like subscription models for the good ones. And like, if you pay enough, there's people that will custom make one specifically for you to help you from getting banned. Like it is. It is a multi, many, many, many billions of dollars industry.

[Linus Sebastian]

Billions. Are you sure?

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yep.

[Linus Sebastian]

Billions.

[Luke Lafreniere]

It's bad with a B. I'm pretty darn sure. It's huge. There's people that play subscriptions for cheats, for games that are many hundreds of dollars and those are not the custom tailored ones. There's like, it's a. It's a huge deal. There is a lot of really lame losers. It's crazy.

[Linus Sebastian]

Luke wisdom tips.

[Luke Lafreniere]

It's crazy how, how many trash people there are. It's actually wild.

[Linus Sebastian]

Wow. Parallelogram in float plane chat says people be paying $20 a day for cheats that I know of.

[Luke Lafreniere]

There's. There's weekend passes. Like, it's. It's wild.

[Linus Sebastian]

Is this a big part of what's driving how difficult it is to jump into a lobby and play online now? In my opinion, are there just so many cheaters?

[Luke Lafreniere]

There is an incredible amount. Like that, that Tarkov thing where they were like, there's kind of at least one in every lobby. After that, I started trying to look around. I was like, is this really a Tarkov issue? No, it's everywhere. I do think Tarkov could do way more. Okay, that's. It's not quite the same thing. Yeah, but that's still a lot. I. I believe Tarkov could do a lot more. They could. Adding replays would be huge, and they're not doing it. And I, I honestly think it's because people would see how bad the situation is. They have replays in arena. They absolutely have the technology. They could do it and they're just not doing it. Tarkov is worse than when that video came out. That's really debatable and extremely difficult to measure. But my point is that it's everywhere. This is not just a Tarkov issue. The problem is that the impact of it is extremely high in Tarkov. But it is, it is literally ever there's cheaters. And in Rocket League.

[Linus Sebastian]

How do you. Wouldn't it be so obvious? I guess, I guess not. Like, if you just, what, like driving.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Assists or like there's things like you can get the ball up on your hood and then you can kind of like dribble it by keeping it on your car. And there's, there's cheats that can. Yeah, somebody just said dribble scripts. Yeah, exactly. There's cheats that can do that. Like car shake for you. So you would just drive normally and it would keep the ball on your hood for you. I believe there's other stuff as well, but that's the only one I know of because Sunless Khan had a video on it recently. It's, it's, it's everywhere. There are cheaters in Warzone Casual. Yeah. They're not even necessarily playing competitive modes. Like, it's, it's everywhere. If you're playing multiplayer games these days that are competitive, you're playing with cheaters.

[Linus Sebastian]

Oh, but, but I have good news. This Monday, I attended a meeting at Surrey City Hall.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I know where this is going.

[Linus Sebastian]

It was the second reading of our temporary use permit for whale land, and we're good to go.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Oh, really? I, I, I got kind of the idea based on your body language, but it's nice to hear it officially.

[Linus Sebastian]

We're in. We're in.

[Luke Lafreniere]

That's fantastic.

[Linus Sebastian]

Surrey is down to clown. And I don't know if I'm supposed to announce it yet, but the first Whale land. I have a date and it will be before the end of this year. So Chase is. Chase. Oh, wait, I, I announced this. I actually talked about this on the live stream yesterday. That we did, but a lot of you probably didn't watch that. Chase is literally working on it now. Now. Right now. Well, okay, not now, but a few hours ago. He was. When? Before he left the office.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Too bad he can't get away from cheating at Lance.

[Linus Sebastian]

What? We, I think we, I think that, I think that when the consequences are literally being escorted out of the building.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I don't, I don't really think that's happened at one of our lands, to be honest.

[Linus Sebastian]

Give us time.

[Luke Lafreniere]

It's very possible. No, no, no, no.

[Linus Sebastian]

You know I'd do it.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I don't mean that.

[Linus Sebastian]

Oh, you mean cheating?

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah.

[Linus Sebastian]

If we, if we catch you, you will never set foot at a whale land again.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Could we, could we have it in the thing that it's like name and shame.

[Linus Sebastian]

I would just do it. I don't care. Who cares? I mean, we'll have like, we'll have filming notices as part of like whale land. Like you will consent to your likeness, etc.

[Dan]

When show banner of shame. Yeah, I can't rotation for all time.

[Linus Sebastian]

No, no. Because people want notoriety. No, they wouldn't get that. Absolutely not.

[Dan]

Linus is more experienced to this.

[Linus Sebastian]

No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. But they would absolutely be shamed in person.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Oh yeah.

[Linus Sebastian]

And it, it'd be awful.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Oh.

[Linus Sebastian]

Cuz like I don't like you.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah.

[Linus Sebastian]

Like it's that simple, man.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah.

[Linus Sebastian]

Not cool.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah.

[Linus Sebastian]

Not cool. Yeah. This is a friendly event. We're all, we're all friends here. You don't do that.

[Luke Lafreniere]

There's just, there's so many examples of streamers getting caught cheating there's so many examples of people getting caught cheating at major tournaments by having cheats like built into the tiny amount of memory on their mouse or whatever else. Like just all these different ways. It's, it's, it's rough out there. So if there was a thing that offered at least a solid amount of reprieve, like, I'm not, I'm not expecting literally anything to solve it at all, but if there's something that added a good amount of reprieve, I would, I would go for it.

[Linus Sebastian]

Last thing here is that Xbox president Sarah Bond also spoke about working closely with the Windows team to ensure that Windows is the number one platform for gaming and not locked to a single store. I think we've talked a little bit about this when we spoke about the Xbox and Rog ally collaboration product. But it's very clear the direction that Microsoft wants, wants to go with, you know, Xbox is any screen in your home, be it Windows or running Xbox operating system or running Tizen OS or whatever the case may be. That's their vision. This is cool. An ASUS RTX 5090 back to front card connector seems to be able to do up to 1900 watts without burning up. Tony Yu, Asus China's GM showcased exactly what you can do with a different peculiar power connector like the GCHPWR connector on the ROG Astral 5090 BTF. So you can actually, if you want to show your mouse on the, the power connector there. This new BTF card design has a detachable GCHPWR allowing you to choose between it and a standard 12 volt high power connector or 12 volt 2x6 I think is what we meant to put in the script. That's really cool. It allows you to use the card with a BTF motherboard. If you have one, but also retain your resale value for the person who likely won't have a BTF motherboard who you want to like sell it to when you're ready to upgrade. The GCHPWR connector was designed to handle 1000 watts, but you used a chroma load tester with the connector at a constant instant. 670 watts, plenty to power a standard RTX 5090 with it staying between 30 and 35 degrees Celsius. He pushed it to 1300 watts, which saw it increase to 38 degrees Celsius. Still very comfortable. And as an extreme, the chroma was turned up to 1900 watts with the connector staying around 41 degrees Celsius, which is not bad. Not bad at all. Here we go. Here come the amps. Bring on the amps. Oh, I forgot his name, but I've met him. 1900 watts. Gorgeous. Great work. BTR just needs to be a thing. Discussion Question is cool, but I wouldn't want that much power running through my motherboard, which is fair enough. I mean it's DC so like the level. Like I I don't design PCBs for a living, but my understanding is that that would be less likely to cause interference than ac. Obviously. But does just running that kind of power through your motherboard if you have enough. If you have enough isolation between your power plane and your data planes or man, it would depend kind of where it's coming from, where it's going to. Would that be the end of the world? Maybe not.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I know nothing about it. Cat os. It's usually fine. I wonder if they just had a hole and you could just what we really need cable through it.

[Linus Sebastian]

What we really need to do is just like I can't believe that we've gone through so many iterations of updating the standard to like needing new connectors and basically needing to replace this stuff. And we haven't increased the voltage.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Tynan said it's fine, but it might get toasty. Yeah, is not fine.

[Linus Sebastian]

Well, it can be fine. I like toast. Finally, Xbox app Merging all game launchers Question mark Recently in the Insiders update program for Windows saw an update to the Xbox app. This update included combining other storefronts Battle.net Game Pass Steam into the same launcher in an attempt to improve the user experience. Ah yes, the proliferation of standard users will also be able to see the different launcher options in the Xbox app so they know if they are launching a game from Steam or another platform. Steam is the first and only storefront they have right now. But Microsoft confirms this is just the beginning. Hoping to add many launchers to the app, though no promise that you won't need to install those dedicated launchers still for the game to open.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah, you definitely will.

[Linus Sebastian]

Discussion. Question. Do you prefer one store that tries to combine launchers or several launchers that are currently consistent with themselves and are clearer about where you are? Um, I just want everything to run on Steam.

[Luke Lafreniere]

If you. If it didn't require the launchers, you could have already done it through Steam and you've been able to do it that way through Steam. I don't want to say forever, because that's not true, but for a very long time.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah. And like, I. I like when I buy a game on Steam and it's like an origin game, but I open the game and it just like shows a quick origin thing and then it like, goes away and then Steam is just there and the game is there and then I close it and it's like origin something. I don't know. Bye. Forget it. And I go back to big picture.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Is it even still called Origin?

[Linus Sebastian]

I don't know. Who cares?

[Luke Lafreniere]

Me.

[Linus Sebastian]

I don't need to know.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah, cool.

[Linus Sebastian]

Linus, aren't we against monopolies? Asks M9 and G27. I love Steam, but we are against monopolies. But Valve is not a monopoly.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah, not at all, actually.

[Linus Sebastian]

Valve has real competition.

[Luke Lafreniere]

That is clearly the best one.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yes. Good luck. Tim Sweeney to the Sweeney Copter Epic Games.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Oh, my goodness. Okay, yeah. House Fresh is done. This one is.

[Linus Sebastian]

Hey, now be nice to Tim Sweeney, says James. I think he'll be all right. I don't think Tim Sweeney cares what I think.

[Luke Lafreniere]

No. Are we done? All who got mad when you said something wrong at one point? That was him.

[Linus Sebastian]

No, no, no, no, no, no. Well, okay, yes, but PlayStation.

[Luke Lafreniere]

That was him, though.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah.

[Luke Lafreniere]

So he cares.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah, Yeah. I was just. I was being nice.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I'm just clarifying.

[Linus Sebastian]

I was just being nice. I was. I was. I was being nice.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Okay.

[Linus Sebastian]

I'm. I'm nice. What?

[Dan]

Yeah, he's a juggler.

[Linus Sebastian]

Of course he's I'm nice. Everybody likes me.

[Dan]

Or they're wrong.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah. All right, hit me up, Dan.

[Dan]

Is it time for After Dark?

[Linus Sebastian]

I think, by the way, if you.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Didn'T migrate from Origin to EA app, you lose stuff. It's probably fine.

[Linus Sebastian]

Lose what? Yeah, lose my copy of Battlefield 2.

[Luke Lafreniere]

The story on Wan show about how I used to share my origin account.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yes.

[Luke Lafreniere]

With the Russian hacker guy.

[Dan]

Well, that's sweet. Of you.

[Linus Sebastian]

I'm going to download the EA app right now and I'm going to log into it to see if I even still have an account.

[Dan]

Get Threat Locker.

[Luke Lafreniere]

So I used to. Yeah, some definitely Russian dude used to. He would steal my origin account and play games, but I, like, didn't really care because I very rarely used it.

[Linus Sebastian]

Oh, I can't install it because I'm.

[Dan]

Getting in there right now. I'm getting in there right now.

[Linus Sebastian]

Install the thing.

[Dan]

Just give me two seconds, please. Request admin. I was already logging in.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Did you press a button?

[Linus Sebastian]

Request admin. You mean login as administrator?

[Dan]

No, I don't even know what it is. Send request as fast as I can.

[Linus Sebastian]

It's a good thing. It's a good thing that Threat Locker is installed on my work machine. That is a good thing.

[Luke Lafreniere]

It's not installed on all your work machines anymore.

[Linus Sebastian]

You shouldn't tell the people that. That now I'm an attack vet.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Well, no, it is now look what you've done. It is installed and I'm not, I'm not actually pulling that back. It is installed.

[Linus Sebastian]

Okay, so much for being SE Suite Linus. I mean, Sea Suites can be hacked, if anything. They're the best targets. Get. Do some of that wailing.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah, but yeah, I, I, he would take my account and I wouldn't care. And then many months later, I would suddenly care to play something and I still. He had the password. I had the secret question. So instead of resetting the password, I would just. You were able to log in with the secret question somehow or something. I don't remember exactly what. So I would get in and play my game for a while and he would, he would leave me alone for like a while. And then I guess he just checked like a month later or something, and then he would take it back and keep playing. And I just, I thought it was funny. So I just never fixed the problem. I don't remember all the details, but it's something like that.

[Linus Sebastian]

And telling me about this, this is back in like the Langley house days.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah, this is a long time ago. And he added games to the account, so there's like football manager and like all this other random stuff. I was like, what are you doing?

[Linus Sebastian]

Like.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Why would you do that on my account? But then I just still never cared. I think eventually I was trying to play something and he kept booting me out over and over again. So I was like, all right, we're done now. And I officially finally fixed it.

[Dan]

But did it start installing?

[Linus Sebastian]

Oh, you can now run this application. Run now. All right, let's see.

[Luke Lafreniere]

It was fun for a while.

[Linus Sebastian]

See if we can do this.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Maybe he has your Reddit credentials.

[Dan]

Just being kind online.

[Luke Lafreniere]

That's a sick. That's a good reference.

[Linus Sebastian]

Anyway, we can move on to our next thing for now.

[Luke Lafreniere]

We don't have one.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah, just merch messages. It's after dark. Let's go.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah, that's what I meant. That's what I meant. Should we do super dark mode because of the glow? Sure. Oh, probably won't be able to see anything. We see it for a second.

[Linus Sebastian]

We can see it for a second.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Okay.

[Dan]

Okay. Give me one sec.

[Luke Lafreniere]

This physical button. I can do it.

[Linus Sebastian]

No, no, Dan. Dan's got the control.

[Luke Lafreniere]

No, he's actually.

[Linus Sebastian]

He's producer Dan.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah.

[Linus Sebastian]

How dare you disrespect him like that.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Wait, he's not glowing. Oh, these.

[Dan]

Jesus, you're needy.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah, doing it for the audience.

[Linus Sebastian]

Oh, light down that one. Dang it.

[Dan]

Dang it, Bobby.

[Linus Sebastian]

It's not going to have any glow left by the time we actually get it.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah.

[Linus Sebastian]

Oh. Windows cannot access the specified device path or file computer so much.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Where is he going?

[Linus Sebastian]

I can't install EA app. Oh, he's cooking. Let him cook. Oh, launch the app. What the. It says it's already installed now. Seems like a. I don't think I can launch it.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Seems like a you problem.

[Linus Sebastian]

You seem like a me problem sometimes. Got him. Oh, hold on. Oh, yeah, no, no, she's working. Look, she's working. She's cooking.

[Luke Lafreniere]

There we go.

[Linus Sebastian]

Okay, keep me signed in. Okay.

[Luke Lafreniere]

You just.

[Linus Sebastian]

You know that my. What? My username.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah, yeah.

[Linus Sebastian]

Why would I not know my username? It's just my email.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Oh, okay, fair enough. I don't know my. My username for. For origin, but I guess it was just my email. It's probably fine.

[Dan]

I think it's this one.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah, it's too late.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah, it's too late.

[Linus Sebastian]

We can't see our glowing table anymore because it's not charged anymore. Also, I don't think it's dark enough.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Maybe the purple light is the problem.

[Dan]

Yeah, the purple is the problem.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Oh, but they can't see.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah, no, I can see it glowing, but they definitely can't see that. We could turn the lights back on.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I think kind of see it.

[Linus Sebastian]

This has gotten awkward at this point.

[Luke Lafreniere]

They can see me.

[Linus Sebastian]

I mean, yeah. Here.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Why am I visible and not you?

[Linus Sebastian]

Maybe you're whiter than me. Oh, you have a white screen on your computer. So if we Goodbye. Yeah. There you go.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah. Okay. Okay. There you go. Okay. They can see it now. Our rap partner, Dbrand, who, by the way, also makes the glow in the dark skin for my phone.

[Luke Lafreniere]

And also not glow in the dark skin.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah, this is our glow. This is our glow circuit skin. And it's all over the table. Okay. Thank you.

[Luke Lafreniere]

It's probably.

[Linus Sebastian]

That was wonderful.

[Dan]

Well, that was worth.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah. That I. Well, debatable, but sure.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah. No, it was. Well, you think they didn't enjoy it?

[Linus Sebastian]

I. Well, I don't know.

[Luke Lafreniere]

It's like the whole point of the show.

[Linus Sebastian]

Is it, though, for them to enjoy something?

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah.

[Linus Sebastian]

Okay. Wan Show After Dark. Here we go. Here's the games that. Time to flashbang them. Here's the games that I own.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Sure.

[Linus Sebastian]

Whoa. Oh. Ouch.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Whoa.

[Linus Sebastian]

I have Free to play games. Apex Legends and the Sims 4.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Nice.

[Linus Sebastian]

I think. Oh, no. Add to your library. So I don't have these, I guess.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Okay.

[Linus Sebastian]

My library includes such hits as Battlefield 3.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Nice.

[Linus Sebastian]

Battlefield 4.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Nice.

[Linus Sebastian]

Battlefield Bad Company 2.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Nice. So you. You stopped playing Battlefield at the correct time?

[Linus Sebastian]

I never played Battlefield. This is for benchmarking. Oh, I stopped benchmarking Battlefield at the right time.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah.

[Linus Sebastian]

Crusader no Remorse. A game that I have been meaning to play since I was like nine. Crisis three. Dragon Age Inquisition. It Takes Two, which I actually own through Steam. Whatever. This is Knox, dude.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Knox is. Knox is sick. Super old school.

[Linus Sebastian]

RPG plants versus zombies. Garden Wars 2, which I only own because of a Make a Wish thing where they wanted to play this and I was like, okay, I'll bite. I'll buy this game.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Surprisingly good.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah, it's actually pretty fun. Battlefront Titanfall 2, which is because of you. But also just through Steam and Unravel two, which I actually just played with my wife. And we enjoyed it. It was fine.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah. The story was. I didn't really understand, but apparently you're not supposed to, so that's cool. Okay. Hit me, Dan. Sure.

[Dan]

I've got a few here.

[Linus Sebastian]

Hello.

[Dan]

Wyness Wook and Wan Linus. Have you seen the live action version yet? And what are your thoughts?

[Luke Lafreniere]

What?

[Dan]

The live action version.

[Linus Sebastian]

Not yet. I'm so. I'm like. Actually, I'm actively stressed about seeing it. The Lion show how to train youn Dragon 1 is the perfect movie. It is better than any other movie, except maybe the Incredibles and I don't know, there's plenty of movies I love, but how to train youn Dragon 1 is a perfect movie. Chat says that seems pretty good. Elijah said it was pretty mid. I don't know, man. I don't know. You loved it. Okay, that's something. But why do live action? See, that's the question. It was already perfect. I would have rather they just did, like a remaster with new textures and HDR lighting, you know, I agree.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I don't like live action remakes.

[Dan]

They're not even live action.

[Linus Sebastian]

Like, that's the thing. The main character is still cgi.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I was seriously wronged with the release of the Warcraft movie. That was a crime against me in particular. And then all of Hollywood decided that they were gonna release worse versions of childhood classics by taking one of the most charming aspects about them and making them, quote, unquote, live action.

[Linus Sebastian]

Okay, Livin in chat. Is that Rhys? Oh, is Livin Reese? No, Reese's Dirt Wizard. Hold on. Livin is Pankratz. Pankratz, that's right. Okay, if. I thought. I thought it was Rhys and I was gonna be like, okay. Because Rhys and I are pretty aligned on movie taste so far from. From what I've seen so far. He agrees the Breakfast Club is actual unmitigated disaster taste. But Livin Pankratz, you. I don't know how aligned we are on movie taste yet. I'm not saying your taste is bad. I'm just saying that maybe I do. I just don't know yet. I don't know yet.

[Dan]

Make sure that you're agreeing with the narcissist or you might lose your job.

[Linus Sebastian]

Oh, stop. Speaking of which, for me, movie night last Friday.

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Linus Sebastian]

What'd you guys think? Last Action Hero.

[Luke Lafreniere]

It was very good.

[Dan]

I was way more surprised than I was expecting to be.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I actually wasn't surprised. And I enjoyed it a lot.

[Dan]

Yeah, I know. That was. That was sick.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Binky Draws says the Dungeons and Dragons movie was awesome, though. And I agree. It was very good.

[Linus Sebastian]

Actually, really enjoyed it.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Really deserves a lot more than it got. And I'm very sad that people didn't realize how good that movie was because it might not get another one. And that would be very sad.

[Linus Sebastian]

It wasn't super, super polished, but it was exactly what it was supposed to be.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yes.

[Linus Sebastian]

It was so self aware.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah, it was great. And it was self aware very appropriately, because it was still a good story, still a good character, despite being self aware.

[Linus Sebastian]

And that's what I love about Last Action Hero.

[Dan]

What was the other movie?

[Linus Sebastian]

Exactly what it's doing.

[Dan]

The other one you were talking about Dungeons and Dragons. Oh, yeah, no, that was. That was very good.

[Linus Sebastian]

So Last Action Hero is both an action movie and also a spoof of everything that made especially 80s action movies kind of cringe worthy and unbearable. So it does, it does everything that they do to the nth degree while also straight faced being an action movie. I love it. And I hadn't even remembered the like celebrity cameos at the end.

[Dan]

It had everybody.

[Linus Sebastian]

It had Bill freaking Murray in it. Dude. This the scene when Maria Shriver like gives Arnold Schwarzenegger like Arnold Schwarzenegger the actor playing himself instead of Arnold Schwarzenegger playing the like, like the action hero guy. She like gives him crap about talking about promoting his stupid restaurants on the red carpet. Like, oh, it's so many. So good.

[Luke Lafreniere]

It was really good. It was fantastic. I enjoyed it a lot.

[Linus Sebastian]

Anywho, more. Yeah. So I will see how to train your dragon, but I'll probably. I don't think I'm gonna bother in the theater. I think I'll wait and I'll watch it in my theater at home.

[Dan]

Watch on your phone Just to give it an extra little.

[Luke Lafreniere]

No, it's like a guarantee. You're making. You're making it lose. Yeah, I did, I did that with Gladiator 2. I watched it on a plane on purpose. I was like, I'm not disrespect it. I'm not gonna like this. And then I like hate watched the whole thing and got to the end. Was just mad.

[Dan]

Yeah, I watched that at home and was incredibly upset.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I loved Gladiator 1 so much. And it was.

[Dan]

That was an incredible disaster.

[Linus Sebastian]

Bimizoontown says load it on an ipod video and watch it there. Yikes.

[Dan]

Yeah, a Kindle.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yikes. Okay.

[Dan]

Hey, lld, would you consider doing other transparent products such as a transparent backpack for security checks? And how long does it take to prototype the transparent driver?

[Linus Sebastian]

Three years. So we're interested in other transparent products, but I can pretty much promise you that we're not making Pris's raincoat from Blade Runner as a backpack form. I just, I. I can't think of a material that would be clear enough to really see through, but also robust enough for us to be confident making a backpack with it.

[Luke Lafreniere]

So, Triton.

[Linus Sebastian]

Well, it's. It's rigid though.

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Linus Sebastian]

Would you really want a rigid backpack?

[Luke Lafreniere]

Plenty of them that you put cats in them. They're like. They are a thing. Isn't. Isn't that like. Isn't that Fjallraven backpack fairly rigid? And that was like incredibly popular for many years.

[Linus Sebastian]

Oh, hi. Josh says you literally ride a motorcycle. Okay. All Right. All right, all right, all right, all right.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Okay.

[Linus Sebastian]

So I guess you can strap a luggage to your back if you really want to, but I, I, I. We have so much work to do, you know, continuing to innovate in, like, soft goods backpacks that I don't know that I'm ready to just completely change gears and go into an entirely new product category. So no promises. No promises for. For now. Oh, Frey says, do you know why Last Action Hero was a flop? It opened the same week as Jurassic Park.

[Dan]

Oh, my God.

[Linus Sebastian]

That makes so much more sense because we were talking about this after it did make money. Yeah. But barely.

[Dan]

Barely. And when you look like and nobody remembers it.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah. It was an $80 million budget for a movie that did, like, what was it, like 150mil total.

[Dan]

And Jurassic park was, like, groundbreaking. Yeah. From special effects and artistry and just so good.

[Linus Sebastian]

Apparently the marketing was also just a total disaster as well.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Pankrat said it's just like Titanfall 2 in that. Oh, man.

[Dan]

Oh, no, don't go through that.

[Luke Lafreniere]

That's funny. Oh, no, no.

[Linus Sebastian]

Oh, no. Hey, I played it. I bought it. I played it. Titanfall 2 was great. The single player is actually outstanding.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Best single player shooter I've played since I was a wee child.

[Linus Sebastian]

My biggest complaint is that you don't get to enjoy the super amazing, cool, fun gimmicks for long enough.

[Luke Lafreniere]

But that's one of the reasons. So good.

[Linus Sebastian]

Leave them wanting more.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah, yeah.

[Dan]

All of it's perfect. Will always be perfect. How is your home assistant integrations going? Would love to know what works well and what doesn't. What's that one? Automation that you can't live without.

[Linus Sebastian]

Not gonna lie. Jake and I were brainstorming a way to make fixing my house into content today. And we came up with a list of all the stuff about my smart house that's just kind of stupid and doesn't work or was poorly designed or implemented in the first place or we just never really finished because we got the video done, got it to like minimum viable product, works as a demo point, and then just left it there. So I think it's actually going to be a series. Video one will be us going through and going, oh, yeah, that.

[Luke Lafreniere]

What's, what's rough? Current, current state.

[Linus Sebastian]

And then we're gonna, we're gonna go like full automotive channel style, and we're just gonna have a piece of cardboard that we're gonna write all the problems on. And then over the series of a bunch of videos going forward, we're gonna cross them out.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Cool. I like that. Yeah, that sounds cool.

[Dan]

That's a great idea.

[Luke Lafreniere]

We stopped doing series and like multi part content.

[Linus Sebastian]

Oh, this is interesting. P Bali. P Bali. P Ball says fun fact, the animated Anastasia movie did worse because Disney re released the Little Mermaid in theaters at the same time. I wouldn't put it. I wouldn't put it above Disney to pull a move like that. I don't know if that's true. That's allegedly. But I wouldn't put that past Disney.

[Dan]

My lady ruined her own proposal. Should I redo it? If so, should I choose a new location?

[Linus Sebastian]

If it's ruined, you should redo it. As someone whose proposal was ruined not by the lady, but by myself, I can tell you from experience that you will never hear the end of it. You might not hear about it often and it might be in good humour, you know, mostly, but she will remember it for better or for worse. In sickness and in health, till death do you part. So yeah, I'd probably redo it if I were you. If I were you.

[Dan]

Cheers guys. Loved the video on MBX MK2 for your home systems. How often do you find both change cases as part of an Upgrade? New builds vs reusing or favorite sentimental cases?

[Linus Sebastian]

Sorry, just read yourself.

[Dan]

This is a little hard to parse.

[Linus Sebastian]

How often do you change your case? You upgrade versus reusing a favorite or sentimental case?

[Luke Lafreniere]

My situation is not really fair for this. I have kept the case. Yeah. I've advised a lot of other people to keep their cases and in builds that I've kind of like worked on, I've kept the case. For me it's like not really fair because of our deal that seems to come with cases.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah. He gets new computers in perpetuity, I guess.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah.

[Linus Sebastian]

It doesn't say how often you offered it. I could. I could. I could do nothing for 45 years.

[Luke Lafreniere]

There is part of the clause.

[Dan]

Is there?

[Linus Sebastian]

How often do I have to do it?

[Luke Lafreniere]

It's. It's not a timing thing but it's a. Keeping it in pace with yours.

[Linus Sebastian]

Really?

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah. It's not supposed to be the same. You were just that narcissistic back then. But it's supposed to be like, you know, reasonably within range.

[Linus Sebastian]

That makes sense.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I don't remember the exact wording.

[Linus Sebastian]

What do you have now? 4080. Oh, you're good then.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I'm not complaining.

[Linus Sebastian]

I think you have a better computer than me right now. Then maybe I have a. Oh, 7900 xtx. Probably about. About on par. Pretty Darn close.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Pretty similar.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah. Yours is better in ray tracing which I don't think you use anyway. Cool.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, not complaining.

[Linus Sebastian]

As for me, I, I have changed my case very few times. I had an Antec LAN boy, that was my first custom computer case with the smart blue 350 watt power supply. So that's what I had. I upgraded that to an Antec P160. I got the NCIX didn't carry the P160W but they did carry the windowed side panel replacement. So I had an extra non windowed side panel. It was a really cool windowed side panel. Instead of being flat, it had these like, I don't know, these like ovals in it. Here we go. I don't know, they were just, they were kind of cool. They were like stylish.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Oh yeah.

[Linus Sebastian]

Indent things and, and like the locks for the side panel were indented into it. So you couldn't just like put a window on the regular case. You had to. Oh, you had to get the, you had to get the stock window window. It looked really sick. So I had one of these. I actually, I swapped out the LED color in the front. So mine, instead of having blue LEDs lighting up these little front mirrored bits, I swapped them out for green. I had a cool AMD inside UV reactive logo in the bottom. I rattle can sprayed the inside black. What other modifications? I had a, I had a fan controller in the, the front. I think that's most of it. I had. Oh, I had a cool UV green transparent acrylic cover for my power supply. And then I had UV green sleeving for my power supply back when I had this build. Anyway, from there, from there I think I went to the, I think I went straight to the TJ07. Yvonne bought that for me. That's, that's how you know she's a keeper. She gets you like a sick computer case. And then I still have that. I kind of still want to do a build in it one of these days. And doing that unboxing of the murder box made me want to do it even more. Heck yeah. It was a thing.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I was walking through the lab and.

[Linus Sebastian]

Was like three pallets of murder boxes. I mean MBX2 or whatever, whatever. They ended up calling them the Wicked case. They're the TJ07 but refined, perfected you might say. And then for my TJ07 I went to my rack mount case which I have like for, for like tech influence or whatever. I have kept for an Awfully long time without making anything other than, like, slight quality of life modifications to. I. I love it. It's perfect. My computer sits in my rack. I never look at it or think about it other than when it's broken. And maybe that's. I don't know, maybe that's kind of lame. I do want to do a really nice build for the theater room.

[Luke Lafreniere]

You need something for the theater room.

[Linus Sebastian]

And I want it to be like, dead quiet. Like.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah.

[Linus Sebastian]

Silent.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yes.

[Linus Sebastian]

Maybe even silent and deadly. Oh, yes. One thing I.

[Luke Lafreniere]

One button is a power button. The other button ejects a knife.

[Linus Sebastian]

I mean, why a knife? You can only kill one person with a knife, say, to jack a grenade.

[Luke Lafreniere]

That would sort of true. Okay.

[Dan]

Has mustard gas in the handle. Ooh, I like the floor is made of bleach and the knife has ammonia in it.

[Linus Sebastian]

Okay. All right, so why don't we move on to our next merge message.

[Dan]

Good. It's easy to get you guys to move on. Hey, guys. I'm an injection molding technician and I thoroughly enjoy all of the BTS molding content. How much did the molder do and how much of your team, how much did you learn?

[Linus Sebastian]

Personally, I learned basically what was in Kyle's video that we had to open the gate and do more simulation to make sure that it flows through the mold like this. Instead of going around things and then meeting and making those ugly. Those ugly lines. I learned about the different properties of plastics and, you know, some cool faster and some cool longer when they're flowing through the mold or stick to the mold or whatever else. That's about it. I didn't do any simulations or anything. As for what our team has learned, I will say that some of it was handled by the molder, but it was definitely a collaborative process. I pretty much promise you that those simulations that we showed in the video were ones that our team was running. We've learned a lot about plastic in general injection molding over the last few years.

[Dan]

Here goes a new impulse buy. Did you need to add any anti yellowing countermeasures or is that not an issue for this type of plastic?

[Linus Sebastian]

I'm not aware of that being an issue for Triton.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Don't think it's a problem for Triton looking at especially like, okay, so a very well known brand that uses Triton, Nalgene. Nalgene. Their water bottles. You know, water bottles these days, a lot of people use them inside, but for a long time they were like largely outdoor or indoor sports facility type things.

[Linus Sebastian]

That's true. Water bottle culture has changed a lot.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Dramatically changed.

[Linus Sebastian]

I didn't even really think about that.

[Luke Lafreniere]

But they did go outside a lot. And Nalgene bottles never really changed color Algina usually blue for a reason.

[Linus Sebastian]

That's an interesting point, but who the devil is this? Who are you? Number 317, anonymous, with your $10 gift card purchase. Go ahead, Dan. You can read it.

[Dan]

Are you sure? Yeah, it's very mean. Is it maybe Linus, also known as Moo. Moo the cow?

[Linus Sebastian]

How do you know that?

[Luke Lafreniere]

Oh, this is a thing.

[Linus Sebastian]

That's my OG Hotmail account. Damnoore the underscorecowotmail.com. i don't have that email address anymore. Don't bother emailing it. But that was. That was my original, like when I went to camp. Camp Squia for Bible camp, you know, that was the email that I gave to my fellow attendees so they could stay in touch.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Is. You said Anonymous 13.

[Dan]

317 is the order number.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Oh, not the name that they put in.

[Linus Sebastian]

No, no, sorry. Carry on.

[Dan]

Damn. Do you find the existence or lack of your beard to have any effect on your viewership? And do you still plan. Do you still have plans taking your name out of the branding of your company?

[Linus Sebastian]

I don't know. We're kind of. I think we're kind of experimenting right now. I am. See, I'm actually not quite done painting my bike. I have put one. Maybe I put one coat of clear coat on the gas tank and then I made the mistake. Okay, this is why Jake Tivy drives me nuts, because he was like, no, you should sand it. You know, like, like fine sand it. And I was like, no, I'm not gonna bother. I don't care if there's a little bit of orange peel. I want this project done. He's like, no, you should do it. And then I did the first coat. Coat of clear coat on the gas tank. And there was like a little something, like a little fluff got caught in it and I. I could have sprayed it again and maybe like, like gotten that bit out, but probably not. I probably would have scuffed the finish. So I was gonna have to do another coat anyway. So I was like, okay, well, I'll just leave it with the one coat and then I'll. I'll. I'll get the little bit out and then I'll blast the second coat and then it'll all be consistent. I won't have the little, like, fluff or the little nib in it anyway, as I Was getting out the nib. I was like, oh. I mean, it wouldn't really hurt if I. A thousand grit. I can't really damage anything too badly. I'll give it, like, kind of a once over, and it looks so much better. But now I'm thinking I've only delivered the wheels, the frame, and the subframe, none of which, I think stand out that much. Once the bike is assembled, it's going to be the fairing, it's going to be the tail, it's going to be the gas tank that are really going to stand out. So I still have all those pieces. Technically, they haven't started reassembly yet, so technically, you could. I could sand everything. Fine grit. Sand everything.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Do you know when they're gonna start.

[Linus Sebastian]

Blast it again and polish it?

[Luke Lafreniere]

Do you have, like, this weekend and then that's it?

[Linus Sebastian]

I don't know. But I did thousand grit the gas tank and. But, like, I don't want to get in there with, like, 2,000, like, 5,000 grit. Like, I. I don't. I don't. I don't have time for that. Yes, I know. It looks better wet sanded. Yes, yes, yes. It's worth it. It's worth it. Anyway, so if that's the case, I'm gonna have to. I'm gonna have to do a fair bit more clear coating. If it was just gonna be, like, hitting the gas tank once, then I was just gonna, like, put on the mask and, like, you know, breathe as little as I can and not bother. But if I'm. If I'm gonna be clear coating the entire rest of the bike again, I'm probably gonna have to shave the beard. So we'll see. We'll see. Maybe I'll keep a mustache for, like, one week. It'd be horrible, dude.

[Luke Lafreniere]

It would be bad.

[Linus Sebastian]

It would be horrible on me anyway. Okay.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I'm trying to even. I can't even. I feel like I can't even imagine it.

[Linus Sebastian]

Still plan to take my name out of branding of the company? Eventually, yes. That is still the goal.

[Dan]

Don't. Don't think about it, Luke.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Kind of want to think.

[Dan]

Close your mind's eye.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I feel like I can imagine myself with one easier than I can imagine you with one.

[Dan]

One. Nope.

[Linus Sebastian]

It's gross.

[Dan]

No, I don't like it. You have to do it. Hello from Tampa returning from Saudi Arabia.

[Luke Lafreniere]

We can both do it for movember.

[Linus Sebastian]

Nope.

[Dan]

All right, do it now. Look at my razors. Hello from Tampa returning from Saudi Arabia. Three security agents spent 30 minutes inspecting my mini ITX build from my carry on. What are some challenges you faced with equipment at airports?

[Linus Sebastian]

The biggest one is the Carnet. It's this stupid piece of paper that I think it's Canadian customs insists on. Or is it you? I can't remember. Someone insists on us having this stupid piece of paper that we bring to the airport and write down the serial numbers of all the like, camera filming equipment that we bring with us. And then when we come back, we have to show them the Carnet and that this is all equipment that we took with us in the first place, that we're not importing it. But it's just a piece of paper. There's. There's no tracking, there's no validation, and many of the agents don't even know about it. So it's just a matter of like, if you get the one that cares, then they'll like hassle you about all the gear that you're taking over there. Even though you're clearly a professional video equipment person, you don't, you don't even have more than one of the same thing. You're obviously not an importer. It's just a big waste of time. It means our camera ops have to show up at the airport like an hour, sometimes an hour and a half earlier. It's just so obnoxious.

[Luke Lafreniere]

It's not an airplane. But I'm gonna tell the story anyways because it's probably been a long time, but one time I had to, for reasons, transport my mineral oil computer from Vancouver island to back home. And I didn't have a car on the island, so I had to bring it onto a bus. So I had to hand carry on a wooden plank my mineral oil computer that had like at the time, fish plants in it and stuff, but also just computer parts and cables and all this wacky stuff.

[Linus Sebastian]

Absolute genius.

[Luke Lafreniere]

And the bus driver absolutely, absolutely did not want to let me on the bus because he thought it was a bomb. And I actually, I got on the bus, but I, I don't remember how. I don't know if he just eventually kind of gave up and let me or what. I don't, I don't remember at this point, but. But yeah, I got it on the bus eventually and I got it home, but I mean, then I had to take it on the ferry and then all this kind of stuff and it got, Got some looks. Got some looks. That's probably heavy as hell. Hey, we won. It wasn't light. Wasn't particularly light. Part of the spoiler of the story is that it didn't exactly have oil in it at that point in time, or at least not a lot. But the oil was soaked into the wooden plank and I was carrying a computer on a plank for like plus.

[Linus Sebastian]

The aquarium factor many hours. Yeah, ridiculous.

[Dan]

Howdy. LDL from Texas. Love the screwdriver and buying one for my dad. Question AI makes call scams harder to detect. How can we verify who we're speaking to? Maybe encryption keys or back to the old safe words.

[Linus Sebastian]

Safe words.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Safe words. And just don't, don't do anything when people call you.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah, you can always call people back.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Look up their number and call them back.

[Linus Sebastian]

Don't forget they could be sim jacked. So even calling them back.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Oh no, don't call them. It's called 100% number back. Just don't like if your bank calls you or something like that.

[Linus Sebastian]

I was talking like a, like a, like a loved one. Because you couldn't have a safe word with your bank. I think they're talking about.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah.

[Linus Sebastian]

Like if, you know, your, your wife calls you saying she's held ransom or whatever.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I'm sure you could call who. I'm sure for the, the company bank account you could have a safe word. To be honest.

[Linus Sebastian]

I, I don't know. You'd be surprised how inflexible like policy is at places like we're, we're. Again, this comes down to that whole, that whole age old debate. Is Linus Media Group a big company?

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah.

[Linus Sebastian]

In the, in the, in the scheme of like would banks just like have a special policy for us? No.

[Luke Lafreniere]

It's funny because there are some that would little tiny credit unions but like not, not big banks maybe.

[Linus Sebastian]

But that's our issue is we're big enough that there's no way we could engage reasonably with a bank like that simply because they don't, they wouldn't deal in enough currency for us. We deal in GBP Euro, cad, USD at least. And I'm pro. There's probably some. Oh yeah, no, we definitely have Yen, Australian dollar. Yeah. We have Chinese Yuan as well.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Swedish Kronos.

[Linus Sebastian]

We deal in all these different currencies.

[Dan]

So no idea.

[Linus Sebastian]

We absolutely have to deal with like, like a mega, a mega bank just because of all the different income streams that are coming from like, like Amazon affiliate Australia or whatever. Right. I don't even know if that's a thing. But that's an example of the kind of reason that we might have some international currency coming in and, but we are not big enough for Any organization like that to give two sh. Ts and a limp about us. So.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Two separate trips or like one.

[Linus Sebastian]

So we're in this.

[Dan]

There are three people.

[Linus Sebastian]

So we're just. Yeah, I don't know. We're in the like, we're in like a weird middle ground. And I'm not, I'm not complaining. I'm just saying that there have been times that it's been challenging. Like I remember when I wasn't able to borrow like literally a few months of, of, of revenue for like, for, for some reason for the business. Just because they like didn't recognize what kind of business we were. It didn't matter. It didn't matter that I'd be able to pay it back in a trivial amount of time. Didn't matter. We just couldn't because we're nobody. Yep. All right. Hit me.

[Dan]

All right. Let's see. Yeah. Hi. LLD about to receive a utility patent. Any advice for getting a device from prototype to finished product? Any pitfalls to avoid? Clear driver will go great with my OG Blackshaft driver. Thanks.

[Linus Sebastian]

Any advice for getting it to finished product? Be patient.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Time. Osmit.

[Linus Sebastian]

Do it. Understand that there may be compromises to be made along the way. For instance, there is one compromise on this. There's almost no way that you guys would be able to see it, but there's like around the, the bits of the, the ratchet mechanism, like the metal like spine that comes out of the housing here, there's kind of like, like a thin part of the wall. It goes all the way around. So it doesn't really like, it doesn't matter, you know, But I know it's there. It wasn't what we were trying to do. We wanted it to, to sit cleaner to the.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I don't know what you're talking about.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah, it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. It's better if no one else can find it. But the point is there will be little compromises. Be ready for that. But also stick to your guns when it comes to quality. Never compromise on, on the long lastingness of the product. As for pitfalls to avoid. Oh, man. You know, carefully QC what you get back from the factory. Make sure it's actually what you asked them for. I still remember the first time we got a sample driver from the Chinese manufacturer that we switched to from the Taiwanese ratchet manufacturer. And it was like, like, okay, but not quite right. And it turned out that they had somehow never gotten our drawings and had just cloned it based on the sample product. We sent instead of creating it from the drawings and it was close enough that we couldn't tell Wild that that.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Was a default action. Yeah, they didn't go, oh, you don't have drawings or anything. They're just like, yeah, we got it.

[Linus Sebastian]

We knew it was like. We knew it was wrong, but we couldn't tell why it was that close.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Wow, that's wild.

[Linus Sebastian]

Hi.

[Dan]

The cat distribution system sent a six month old cat my way. She adapted well to the home and to me, but is spicy with my resident old cats. Linus, any tips from your shed kitten rescue into intro better?

[Linus Sebastian]

No, I mean they'll be the first thing anyone ever says to me is try fellow way I found it. It's really expensive and doesn't especially do anything. It's like a cat pheromone that you just put into a wall plug like, like those plug in air fresheners. Um, I, I just have not observed any difference in my cat's behavior across like half a dozen different cats now. And I just, I don't believe in it. Um, I'm sure someone somewhere has had success with it, but I just haven't. As for how things have gone with our cats, our resident older lady cat was extremely aggressive with the new ones and she now lives with my aunt. That doesn't mean we don't love her anymore and it doesn't mean that we don't go to see her, but she is much happier as a single cat household kitty and that was what was best for her. And honestly, my aunt is also thriving with Dash living with her. I've. I've told my aunt that she's a crazy cat lady in training for like 20 years now, and it was just a matter of convincing my uncle. But Dash is just the coolest cat and within about three days he was telling my aunt they know they're not getting this cat back, right? So she's in an extremely loving home. And one of the things my aunt was concerned about is that they're getting on in years. And so we made it very clear to her that if anything were to happen, Dash will come back to us and we'll just figure out how to integrate them better. Hello?

[Dan]

Oh, yeah, sorry.

[Linus Sebastian]

Go for it.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I have a message from Sir Conrad Merch. Message Anonymous button is fixed. It was an issue on the US site due to an app that we don't use anyways, so he just installed the app and the floatplane Auth button is on the global site now.

[Dan]

Yes, because the. The one who called you, Mr. Moomoo something or other.

[Linus Sebastian]

What's his name again? Con Chad instead of Conrad.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Oh, okay.

[Dan]

That's good. You get a ding for that? He's a chad.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I thought you said calm. No, I was like what?

[Dan]

What's going on? Yeah. Hello, Newcomb, Dynaston. Lan Linus. With your motorcycle being done soon, I ride a cruiser style Yamaha and regularly do iron butt rides every year. What's the longest ride you've done on your bike?

[Linus Sebastian]

Uh, it's iron, but not a particularly long ride. But I don't ride a particularly comfortable bike. I. I went straight down to Seattle from Vancouver and that was the longest no stops trip that I've taken on my motorbike. I'm not like an avid rider. I don't like go riding for the weekend or anything like that. Um, don't really have time.

[Dan]

I'd love to armor trimming on a bicycle.

[Linus Sebastian]

It's a 2003 SV. 650s.

[Dan]

Jokes for six people.

[Linus Sebastian]

Okay, let's see.

[Dan]

Morning. LLD I work in a secure office, which means no WI FI or Bluetooth devices. I would still like a device to track and remind me of meetings. Do you have any ideas? I've been looking at electronic organizers from the 90s.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah, those tracking remind me of meetings. Would they accept a device that has the WI fi Bluetooth chipset taken out of it?

[Dan]

That's a good question.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Seems like a reasonable thing to do.

[Dan]

If they had a person who was capable of making sure that they were removed properly.

[Luke Lafreniere]

That is probably the biggest problem. So you need something that by default doesn't have that despite the ability to add that to things.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah, something with no Internet.

[Dan]

So this is probably a secure office, not like a military spec. You are not allowed to have things on you and we will scan you and search you.

[Linus Sebastian]

I mean, I know there's like, there's like digital watches that have no smart capabilities that have like multiple alarms.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Okay, I didn't know the multiple alarms part. That's why I didn't actually say.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Virtual Sedai says that's not surprising. We are told that even wireless keyboards are a security risk. Some offices are crazy.

[Dan]

Look, that's what we should do on top of threat locker is ban all wireless devices.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Nice.

[Linus Sebastian]

Okay. Fogel BR says likely not. If this is a sif, then the device has to be on approved lists from the government. Interesting. Yeah. No, I. I don't know, man.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Information facility. Is that what sif?

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah, vintage Palm Pilot, I think. Man. A lot of Those older pocket PCs and stuff though they had WI Fi.

[Dan]

You'd have to go quite old, like, 90s. Like you, I think.

[Linus Sebastian]

I think you could get an Apple Newton. No, I think even that. Oh, no. Yeah. It doesn't have WI Fi. It doesn't have WI Fi in the default configuration.

[Dan]

It would be so cool if you rocked up with an Apple Newton.

[Luke Lafreniere]

That would be sick.

[Linus Sebastian]

Apple Newton. That's my official recommendation. Let's go.

[Dan]

I second that.

[Linus Sebastian]

Okay.

[Dan]

Hi. Dopamine, Serotonin. Serotonin High. Dopamine, Serotonin, and oxytocin. You have mentioned having lots of games in your Steam libraries which you have not had a chance to play. What were some of the hidden gems once you played them?

[Linus Sebastian]

I actually did a whole video.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Really?

[Linus Sebastian]

Yep. And then I never actually. I. In the video, I was like, here I am trying every unplayed game in my Steam backlog. I did this four years ago. It was really fun. And I found a bunch of games that I was like, oh, I'm gonna come back and play this one. Never did.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Oh, you can Favorite things in Steam.

[Linus Sebastian]

I know, I know. I need to go back and rewatch this video now so that I know which ones I wanted to play.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah.

[Dan]

Luke. I had a shared account just like that on Steam, only I was the one who ended up with the account in the end.

[Linus Sebastian]

So did he.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah.

[Dan]

It was a blast seeing the new games and giving them a try for free.

[Linus Sebastian]

Nice.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Honestly, it's. It's. It was surprisingly, like, fun.

[Dan]

And the last one I've got for you tonight is Luke. Have you started any new Final Fantasy games yet?

[Luke Lafreniere]

No, but I'm gonna play Tactics.

[Linus Sebastian]

Oh, are you going? Which one are you gonna play?

[Luke Lafreniere]

Isn't there. Well, no, the one coming to Steam.

[Linus Sebastian]

So there's. Okay. Okay.

[Luke Lafreniere]

That was the plan.

[Linus Sebastian]

Not the only version. So I would say that playing the Pixel remaster for Final Fantasy 6 was actually a mistake. I wouldn't say you should, like, replay it at this point, because whatever, replay it.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I'm not playing it again.

[Linus Sebastian]

I know. I wouldn't say you should replay it, but I. If I were to go back and tell you, hey, you got to play this game again, I would have you play the original SNES version.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Oh, I see.

[Linus Sebastian]

So for Tactics, obviously I haven't played the new one yet, but there are actually now, I would say, three valid choices for playing Final Fantasy Tactics. One would be, obviously, the. The new one that's coming to Steam. Another would be Final fantasy tactics for PlayStation 1, the original release. And the other would be Final Fantasy Tactics War of the Lions. So War of the Lions.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Is this a remaster or is this a different game?

[Linus Sebastian]

It was kind of. It was kind of a re release slash.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Android.

[Linus Sebastian]

Well, no, it's for the PSP, Android, iOS it says. Since when is that? For what?

[Luke Lafreniere]

I don't know. It's just both of them.

[Linus Sebastian]

Don't worry about that. It's for the PSP, was released in 1997 and is considered by many to be kind of the. I don't know, the. The definitive version of Final Fantasy Tactics. However, as someone who never actually played War of the Lions, I can't. I can't tell you that I think any of the things they added to it would improve anything. Oh, well, look at that. You can get War of the lions for. For iOS and Android. Okay, that's cool. But I wouldn't say that anything that I can see that they added to it would significantly improve the game for me. It has a less janky translation, but in my opinion, I enjoy that.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I enjoy the jankier translation.

[Linus Sebastian]

In my opinion, the original janky translation, aside from a couple cases where meanings can be obscured a little bit, is part of its charm.

[Luke Lafreniere]

And don't sell me a dog.

[Linus Sebastian]

Drugstore Cowboy, and some of the, like, new characters. Just. What?

[Luke Lafreniere]

No one's gonna understand that reference.

[Linus Sebastian]

But yeah, just felt like kind of cringy fan service. So you could. There's a couple new classes, but like, they seem pretty op.

[Dan]

I'm googling it it.

[Linus Sebastian]

No one cares. Okay, look, play whatever version of the game you want.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I don't really like playing games on my phone. No, you got games on your phone you can emulate. I'm just thinking PSP emulators. Yeah.

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Linus Sebastian]

So you've got three. You've got three valid options to play. And I'm afraid to recommend IIS Chronicles that the re release. Don't sell me a dog.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Don't sell me a dog. Drugstore Cowboy with a huge crest in the middle. For some reason this isn't the exact one, but I saw this on a shirt on a hat in Taiwan my first time there, second time there, and I bought it for Emma.

[Linus Sebastian]

That's good.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I like bad translation.

[Linus Sebastian]

So here's something. And yeah, Sydney Broken is saying this in chat. The remake is removing a bunch of the fans from servicey things in World alliance. So it's apparently meant to be. There was. Apparently the source code was lost. Is that. Is that right, you guys? So they ended up having. It's very much like a fan service game, but Was was initiated by like someone from the original team, like replaying it again and being like, no, this is, this is the definitive version and wanting to bring it to modern platforms instead of War of the Lions, which. Yeah, apparently it'll include a classic version. Yeah, apparently. Oh, okay. No, I think they, I think I, I thought I was reading that they lost at least some of the source. Apparently Ivalus Chronicles will include two different versions of the game, enhanced and classic. So which would you play, Enhanced or classic?

[Luke Lafreniere]

So I, I need to really get through the details of the changes. If it's just graphics, honestly, I don't care. There was a mode where you could kind of see the old graphics on the pixel remaster and I was like, sure, you could take either. It's fine.

[Linus Sebastian]

So the classic version of the re release will have the War of the Lions translation, though. So if you want the original PlayStation kind of janky translation, you'll have to emulate PlayStation 1, which can be done very easily these days. You have time to decide, maybe I'll.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Buy the Steam more than emulate it.

[Linus Sebastian]

Yeah, that's, that's a valid choice because.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I never bought this back in the day. I don't have any, like, I didn't have any Final Fantasy. I. The only game I had was Final Fantasy 8.

[Linus Sebastian]

Ooh, here's a fun piracy conversation.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Sure.

[Linus Sebastian]

I own a Final Fantasy tactics disc for PlayStation 1. Oh, if I lend you my disc.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Give me the disc.

[Linus Sebastian]

And I didn't play the game while you were playing it. It. That's valid.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I'd be okay with that.

[Linus Sebastian]

You'd be okay emulating it?

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah. Well, I won't because technically I have an old PlayStation.

[Linus Sebastian]

They. Oh, this is interesting. People are like, valid. Chat says valid, I think it's fine. Chat says valid.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I think it's fine.

[Linus Sebastian]

Well, I'm not, I mean, I'm not giving it to you because I actually love that they're remastering the original game and they should get money for it.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Yeah, I'm cool with that.

[Linus Sebastian]

So I'm not going to lend you the game.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I'm fine with that.

[Linus Sebastian]

But yeah, it's one of the handful of like, retro games that I own. Actually. I think I bought it from David when he did his liquidation sale. I was like, oh, you have Final Fantasy Tactics. I played this game like three times and I've never owned a copy. I feel bad.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I would either go to Willow and buy my own old school copy or I think it is also fair, in my opinion, to buy the new one and then just emulate the old one. I think that's fine. Can't that is that my. My brain is okay with that.

[Linus Sebastian]

You know what? My brain's okay with telling you guys, hey, we'll see you again next week. Same bad time, same bad channel.

[Luke Lafreniere]

Bye.

[Linus Sebastian]

That was only three hours today. Short.

[Luke Lafreniere]

I missed the old Rancho. The five hour long Rancho.

[Linus Sebastian]

Did you get over four hours last?