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Welcome to the watch floor. I'm Sarah Adams. We all saw last week what happened in New York City. We had two ISIS inspired terrorists attempt to employ improvised explosive devices and of course try to kill protesters who are outside Gracie mansion. Luckily, these IEDs didn't explode. We're all very thankful today about how this turned out, but we have a lot to discuss when it comes to this situation. First off, according to investigators, the suspects brought multiple improvised explosive devices. We saw one potentially in a car down the street. And then of course in the storage unit in Pennsylvania. Then we saw that at least two of these IEDs were thrown towards this crowd. Another thing was is we at least saw one of the devices was initiated or there is an attempt to light it. And then lastly, we know both of these devices thankfully did not detonate. The last detail is what we're gonna talk about today. We are going to discuss the actual explosive used in these devices, which is tatp. This is one of the most common explosive in current modern day terrorism. And you'll see as we walk through a number of the attacks this was used in. It really usually is the terrorist's number one choice. And we'll explain to you why that is, to be very honest. And luckily the commissioner of the NYPD came out and said this. These were real devices. If they had gone off as planned, there would have been a large number of deaths. And we have to be honest about it because sometimes when this happens in these attempts, it gets completely downplayed as, oh, there was some sort of security incident outside this protest when. No, this was a terrorist attack and people were expected to die in this attack. So in this episode we're gonna break down and it's almost gonna be textbook style, you know, what is tatp? Why terrorist groups like isis, as we saw in this case, and Al Qaeda like to use this, what these bombs usually look like, how terrorists actually learn how to make them. Like, do you have to go to a training camp to know how to do this? And then why it's been used in number of attacks, what attacks it was used in, and then what failures occurred over the years because terrorists chose to use tatp. This is one of those weird cases when we can actually focus on the explosive and we can learn a little more about how modern terrorism works. I mean, it's a strange angle on it, but as you'll see, you're going to learn a lot today if we just simply focus on tatp. So what actually is tatp? It stands for triacetone triperoxide that is why every one of us calls it tatp, because that is incredibly hard to say. And this is a homemade explosive. And as I pointed out, it's become the terrace favorite explosive purely because that first piece, it's homemade. Right. They can make it themselves. Security officials call this the mother of Satan. They didn't actually come up with it themselves. The bomb makers actually came up with the term. And it's commonly what's used when we're discussing it. And it's the fact that TATP is incredibly powerful, but it's also insanely similar sensitive. Right? It's so easy to like detonate this and get an explosion to explain. Let's just talk about a different kind of explosive. So if we take a military grid explosive like C4, which is engineered to be stable, you can drop it. You don't have to be super sensitive in how you handle it. You can even set it on fire without an explosion because it needs like heat and friction to activate. TTP is the complete opposite. You know, just in the last probably like 18 months, two senior Islamic State, Khorasan province bomb makers died in their factories in Afghanistan by mishandling the components around these bombs. So it's this really interesting thing. There's this kind of risk analysis these terrorists take, right? Like, hey, we want this powerful explosion, right? We want to make a bomb that no one's going to trace, so it's easier to do a homemade one. But then there are these risks to it exploding unexpectedly. So it's a very interesting thing to walk through. And also then not every case where terrorists uses bomb, it's successful. This episode is brought to you by Dose for Cholesterol. One of the things we've been talking about more lately is how people are starting to pay closer attention to the habits they build into their daily routine, especially when it comes to things like cholesterol support. The reality is a lot of people hesitate when they're told they might have to start taking something long term that they're not completely comfortable with. People feel like they want to have still some say over how to manage their own health and what they're putting putting into their body. 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You know, they can figure out how to do it at home because remember a lot of these people have none of these of kinds connections when they're inspired when they went online, read this material and decided to do it themselves. This is a very different situation than when a terrorist group is directing a plot and does all the bomb making and preparations for you. Now another thing that's interesting is you don't have to go purchase any kind of explosives in this case which then as you can imagine there's no sort of trail for law enforcement to be following. You know, as you're getting these items. Now the second is it just fits this modern way we look at terrorism. Terrorist attacks are primarily made up of individuals and small cells. We get a lot of self radicalized individuals and then we have supporters who don't maintain any direct contact with senior leadership of these organizations. So in these cases something homemade perfectly fits the model. So again what we saw in New York at least what Investigators are saying right now is self inspired terrorism. These are small attacks that's very different than a large scale operation like 911 was where it's plotted and planned for five years, directed down from senior leadership, which is what the Al Qaeda homeland plotting is right now that we're talking about. So it's kind of two sides of the coin. They're both a major threat on US soil, but obviously there is different bombs. And then of course there's the potential for much different casualty numbers on both sides. Third is detection challenges. So many traditional explosive systems were kind of set up back in the day to look for things like tnt. So these are like nitrogen based explosives. So ttp, you know, doesn't contain any nitrogen and there's not really kind of systems put into place to detect it in any way. Lastly, and we kind of brought this up at the start, it's extremist propaganda, really pushes the use of it. And that's kind of what sometimes pushes some of these people into believing, hey, I can do this, right? I went and watched this video and I feel I can make that too and I can be successful at it. They really try to make it like, you know, this self inspired jihadism, like you can do it yourself, you know, have confidence to do it yourself. And when you watch these videos, they're really narrated in that manner to make you feel like confident in your bond making abilities. It's actually kind of interesting when you spend time reviewing them. So both Al Qaeda and ISIS have put a lot of time and effort into designing these videos for what a lot of people call lone wolves. But really it's just these self radicalized, inspired terrorists. Because think about it, if you can get them to go make these bombs and do these attacks in your name, it didn't cost you anything. It gets you some free publicity and it really inspires others to maybe do the same or scary, you get copycats, you know, which is another problem. And terrorists kind of just sit back and watch the chaos that ensues. Now the most famous example of kind of this easy to use bomb making material came out of Al Qaeda in the Arab peninsula aqap, so Al Qaeda's Yemen branch, and they put it in Inspire. And the article that became the most famous was called make a bomb in the kitchen of your mom. Yes, that simple. Make a bomb in the kitchen of your mom. Your mom's gonna love this.
