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Ben
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Ronnie
Well, hello and welcome to Watch what crappens. I'm Ronnie. That's Ben over there. Hi, Ben.
Ben
Hi, Ronnie. How are you?
Ronnie
How are you doing? Good. What's going on with you today?
Ben
You know, it's been a long week of podcasting and we are reaching the end of it. We just have next gen New York City in Orange county and then put up the feet for some R and R. So I'm just, I'm seeing the light at the end of the tunnel and I'm excited. But I also like the darkness in the back of the tunnel is also really great because this is really fun stuff to do. But still, it's like it's almost Friday. I feel it in my bones. No more podcasts.
Ronnie
Yeah. What are you doing this weekend? Anything good?
Ben
I think I'm going to try to sew. I haven't sewn in so long, so I'm going to try to like dedicate some time to sew. I'm going to make a cake this afternoon. I'm really excited. I basically I'm just like ready to luxuriate. What about you?
Ronnie
Yes, My friends invited me to a rave and I was like, you're still inviting me to raves, huh?
Ben
So I don't know, throwback to 25 years ago?
Ronnie
Well, I don't know, I, I call it a rave. It's like a big gay dance party, but to me, oh, I just don't
Ben
call it a rave.
Ronnie
But it's like some. Something downtown on Saturday. But girl, I don't know because you know, these days, 10 o' clock comes around and I'm one of those who embraces being old in a way. You know, obviously I just got plastic surgery, but I embrace, I embrace, I embrace it mostly. Like, I really do like to just go to bed at 10, get up as the sun rises. So I don't know that I can do a rave thing, especially without drugs, you know, because back in the day we would stay up all night because you're on drugs.
Ben
So I just feel like I'm not gonna take my 47 year old self to a rave. I'm sorry, I'm just not going to do that.
Ronnie
I, I've been, I go to, I go, you know, I still go to them sometimes with them. I always have a good time. But we'll see, we'll see. When is the cutoff point where I say this is enough? I don't know that I've reached it yet, but we'll see this weekend. But today is Next Gen NYC Season 2 Episode 5 Brooklyn Horror Story oh, if you want this on video patreon.com that's where you get all our videos. Just search. Watch what crappens on there. You get bonus episodes. This week was personal stories, stuff we've got going on in our lives. And that's also where you get our free newsletter. It's like a weekly blog where I make fun of these shows in writing. And also what else is over there? A Discord server where you guys can talk to each other. Amazon Live is Monday at 1:30pm we do those every Monday. This is pacific time. And then Monday at 5:30pm we do crap Crappy Hour which is our live show. Talking with you guys about all the Bravo headlines. Find links to all of that over at our Instagram Lincoln bio.
Ben
Yeah, there's gonna be, there's gonna be a big crappy hour this week. We got a lot of, a lot of Bravo goss coming up. A lot of stuff.
Ronnie
Yeah.
Ben
Over in Salt Lake City that's for sure.
Ronnie
A lot of breakups.
Ben
A lot of breakups.
Ronnie
Stuff happening in Salt Lake City. So here we go. Next Gen nyc. So I guess Riley has just left Ariana where she had a conversation with Ariana about last week. Man, people are really, really got upset with all the Riley stuff, huh?
Ben
Yeah, people were really upset. In fact, people were actually even a little upset at us for actually kind of giving her some grace. People were like she's a drunk. Like you don't have to talk about like her hard upbringing. She was just a drunk. And let me tell you something, I agree she was being a drunk, but I think we were talking about like, I think we just started, just started digging in and that's where we got with that. But yeah, she was being a drunk. That's. That's what it was. We've all seen those 23 year old drunk and that's what she was. And Candy was not happy about it.
Ronnie
I don't know. No, I do give her grace, you know, she grew up on our TVs. Like we've seen Riley since she's a little baby and all. As I watched the Valley, I watch all this other Bravo where they are so vile to each other that I'm just not. I'm sorry, I can't lose my mind about Riley getting drunk and being snotty at a. I'm not just sorry.
Ben
It was just one of those things like, oh, wow, Riley. So the thing that drove me nuts with Riley is that she'll heavily imply something and then when someone says, well, I never said. Well, I think I, I have. They sort of like address the thing that she heavily applies. Because I never said that. That's what drives me nuts. Yeah, if someone did that to me over and over again, I'd be like, okay, we're not friends anymore.
Ronnie
Well, that's what happened last week. But Riley's not even in this episode. She's out of there.
Ben
That's because this entire episode takes place in the same night. It's pretty much a bottle.
Ronnie
Yeah, she left.
Ben
Yeah, and she left to go back to Atlanta as people on the Internet were saying. Candy was like, you get back here right this minute, young lady. There are headlines about you. Not under my watch.
Ronnie
So yeah, we start at that last scene and the girls are getting ready. It's for Halloween, guys. It's for the Rocky Horrors in whatever rapid waters. Like, no one knows what this is. You guys spend your entire life on the phone. All you do is stare at your phones and worry about who's liking what and texting each other. There's a search function on your phone. Fucking Google it. It's a theme party. Google the theme.
Ben
Also, like, I know they want to paint it like this is like something for old people. Like what is like the Rocky Picture? Horror picture. And it's like, I get that you're trying to paint it that way, but I was not alive during the prime of Rocky Horror. So, like, we all found out about it many years ago. It's really not that hard to know about It. It just, like, requires, like, the most minimal shred of pop culture awareness to know about Rocky Hart Picture Show.
Ronnie
Yeah, it's a 1975 movie. So I was. When it. When I found out what it was, it was a thing for old people. You're like, oh, yeah. You know, if it was like parents who used to dance around to. And sing along to and dress up like, okay, weirdos. And then they show it at a screening. And, you know, eventually, I mean, maybe it's a gay. You know, maybe it's because I'm a gay. But that was. Eventually we all got dragged to it at some point. And it was fun, you know?
Ben
Right. But it's like, if. If. If the event was themed, like Delta Burke Sings El debarge, I'd be like, that's fair. That's definitely a moment. That's like the 1980s right there. And, like, if you weren't part of the 80s, you were like, this makes no sense to you. But the Rocky Horror Picture show is like an enduring pop culture thing from generation to generation. And it's not. It's not an old person thing. It's just a thing that's out there. So, like, for the fact that they're all just, like, so bothered by, almost burdened by the fact that they have to learn this new pop culture element is so hilarious to me.
Ronnie
Yeah. They're just out of touch, people in general. And also, speaking of, they have to go to Brooklyn. What?
Ben
I know. I was like, are you still thinking about Delta Burke singing Elder Barge?
Ronnie
I am. And I was like, is this too early to go off the rails? We barely talked about this show. But I was thinking about Delta Burke, like, post Designing Women, and she went on some talk show, and they're like, what have you been doing, Delta? How are things? I'm just so happy. Here's what I do now. All day long, I shell like things. I'm obsessed with shellac and things. Look at this. This is a rose from my garden. I select it and it's just this hard rock, you know? Then that way things don't die. You just can shellack them. I made some cookies that I like. I didn't, you know, they were so good, I wanted to remember them. So I shellacked one. Look, it's a cookie I shellacked. And the hosts are just looking at her like, wow, that's incredible, Delta. It's so good that we have Delta here. Could we get somebody to pick up? Fucking get some.
Guest or Minor Speaker
Someone.
Ben
Check it on Gerald McRaney. And make sure he's not under a coating of shellac.
Ronnie
So here's my favorite Chihuahua. I loved him so much. I had him shellac like, whoa, whoa, Delta.
Ben
So. So, yeah, so they're. They're still getting ready for this Rocky Horror experience in Brooklyn, as you started to mention. There are. They are horrified that they have to go deep into Brooklyn. And honestly, I get it. We are a podcast that talks frequently about the horrors of having to drive to places like Marina del Rey or to Santa Clarita. So I cannot at all begrudge anyone having to go from, you know, Manhattan to deep Brooklyn. I get it.
Ronnie
I don't even know if it was deep Brooklyn. They keep saying it was.
Ben
Yes. Where's the House of Yes? The House of Yes is located in Bushwick as Bushwick. I know, I've heard of Bushwick. I may have even been to it. But I don't know. I actually don't really know where it is. But it's a one minute walk from the Jefferson street station on the L train. How about that? You know Brooklyn, you used to live there, right?
Ronnie
Yeah, but I lived in Williamsburg, which was, I think, the first stop off of the L. So it wasn't really, you know, this.
Ben
I wasn't in deep, deep, deep Brooklyn.
Ronnie
Brooklyn. Like, they're making this sound. So I didn't learn all the Brooklyn stops. You know, I knew my neighborhood and that was pretty much it. So they're like, mortified because they're, like, rich and they have to go to Brooklyn, which, you know, is a standard Bravo trope. And so they're all trying to. Well, they're not trying to figure it out. They're just complaining that they don't know what it is. Rocky Horror.
Guest or Minor Speaker
That is.
Ronnie
So Brooks calls his sister Chloe and his mom and they have a family shot. Family group talk about how crazy it is that we have to do something about the Rocky Horror. Chocolate. Whatever.
Ben
And he's like, I don't care. I just, like, want chocolate as. Because it says on screen, like, he's been corrected several times. And it's like, what do I wear? And Chloe's like, rocky Horror. Is that like a movie or something? Yeah, it's a movie. Ew, gross. I know, gross. I thought it was like a chocolate factory. Should we call Mom? She's an icon. Yeah, called Mom. So Meredith gets on. It's like, hello, how are you doing? I'm just here celebrating the fact that Seth and I are still married. And it's not an indictment on anyone else on Our cast. But we are. We are sticking through it. And isn't it just a little bit of karma that the people who try to break us apart are going through their own troubles? That's not directed anyone specifically. I'm just pointing it out as a general thing that when you come after people, sometimes it's karma can bite you in the ass. Anyway, what were you saying, son?
Ronnie
Broxing, could you hold on for just a second? Karma's calling on the other line, and I just want to see what the. So he's like, have you ever heard of Rocky or whatever, Like, Picture show. Yes, bro. What even is that? All right, just look at 90% of the outfits I've worn on Real Housewives of Salt Lake City. And you.
Ben
Okay, that's cool. Hold on a second. George is calling. Should I add her, too? They're like, yes, of course. So George is like, hi. Oh, my God. I'm all with Meredith Mar. Welcome to the family chat. You are now cordially invited to hold a part of a lemon while we slice it next time you come to Salt Lake City,
Ronnie
Georgia, what are your opinions on bean salad?
Ben
Oh, my God. Like, I love the thing. And Georgia tells us, I love the Brooks's family. Like, Meredith is amazing. And then, like, Seth Marks, he has, like, good pep talks. He's always, like, posting things on Instagram, Instagram story. And I'm like, screenshotting them because they've inspired me so much. I'm like a Seth Marx fan. And we see Seth giving, like, doing one of his silly things where he's like, hi, it's me, Seth Marks. I'm walking through the. Through the Chicago o' Hare airport. And here's the thing. When life gives you a brioche dore, don't be afraid to walk in and say, hey, it's a delicious sandwich. Okay, have a great day, everyone.
Ronnie
Just remember, the sun cannot come into your life if you don't open your shades. Open your shades. Life is sunny. Thank you. That's it.
Ben
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Ronnie
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Ronnie
So they talk a little bit about the Rocky Horror Show. It's like, crazy. And Georgia's like, you don't know what that is. Like, it's like, iconic. Did you watch Glee? Okay, here's what I've noticed about George. I don't know why it took me this so long. This long. I've always noticed Georgia has kind of dead eyes. You know, like big black eyes. But I never noticed that only her lower mouth moves. Her upper mouth doesn't move at all. It's. And I was trying to. I was trying to do it because I watched the show, but, like, if you watch a show, only the lower heart of her mouth moves and her upper lip always stays the exact same shape and never moves at all.
Ben
It's like a masquerade mask.
Guest or Minor Speaker
It's cool.
Ronnie
Yeah, it's kind of like, I love only anime to her hair down.
Ben
I love Georgia. I think Georgia continues to be the breakout star of the show. She is. She is such reality gold. Everything about her just amuses me left and right. So I. And I love here that her. Her response to Brooks is not to go onto Wikipedia or use Google like any sane human would be. She's like, do you watch Glee? Because they did an episode that was like Rocky Horror Picture Show. So, like, maybe you could just, like, watch that episode. Meanwhile, they're, like, getting ready for the party that's in 45 minutes. And he's like, I love how you think I've got, like, hours to prepare. You just got to sit and watch an episode of Glee to get ready for the stupid thing.
Ronnie
So now they have another competing party going on. You guys, it's the Freck ball. It's huge.
Ben
And how the frick get mixed up in this episode? It's so ridiculous.
Ronnie
The influencers are invited to the Frick. So sorry. Sorry if you couldn't score an invite, guys, but it's huge. And Amir is going to have a whole night of Ubers because, of course she was invited to the Frick ball. Duh.
Ben
Only. Only the top movers and shakers go to the Frick. So Georgia is like, I really like Rowan, so I'm gonna go to Brooklyn for her from, like, the Upper east side, which is, like, a lot. And Rowan's like, yeah, we were supposed to go to the Frick. And then, like, last minute, we're like, maybe let's just like, go to the house of yes. And shy says, wait, I wasn't. I wasn't supposed to go to the Frick. Were you invited? The Frick. I mean, I don't even know what the Frick is. That's crazy. What. What is the Frick? Like, what are people saying to Frick? Are you trying to say? Because you're saying frick. I don't know. I don't understand things. I'm shy.
Ronnie
I don't even know what the Frick is. So everyone else is putting on makeup and getting ready to go, and Amira is saying, yeah, you know, Ariana has so much going on in her life right now. She started something with Liam. Then we see a flashback to the closet making with Liam and Ariana. Guys, there's gonna be a Disney movie made about it. It was like. It was like romance. It's huge.
Ben
Yeah. They're like, okay, let's do a Disney movie about what we. So he's like. He's kind of like a knight in shining army. He's like, almost like a prince. Prince Charming. And they're building a closet. Okay, I've got a name. My prince is in the closet.
Guest or Minor Speaker
No.
Ben
Is that why. Why is everyone looking at me like that?
Guest or Minor Speaker
That's not.
Ben
That title doesn't land.
Ronnie
Yeah. I was kind of thinking this is such a straight storyline, like constructing a closet, you know, when gays are like, come on, let's get through this. Let me help you deconstruct your closet.
Ben
I know. Such a gay friendly show. Why are you building a closet? It's not right? So. So Amira's like, and by the way, there's also, like, Hudson looming over all of this. And we see, you know, the big thing is that Shai had told Hudson, like, by the way, if you come to my party tomorrow, you might see Ariana and Liam flirting. So be prepared, bro. Be prepared. And Hudson's like, what? But I established boundaries.
Ronnie
Yeah. And Ariana notices. Well, she tells us about Hudson's Instagram going crazy because she broke up with him. And he went from just being this humble, sweet guy to who posted Bible verses to being like, oh, look, at my Ferrari. Look at all my money. Look at all my chains. Look at all my designer stuff. Stuff. You guys
Ben
talk about chains, talk about drama, talk about Ferraris, talk about small dick.
Ronnie
So then people say that you become your mother, but they don't tell you that your ex boyfriend becomes your mother.
Ben
Their mommy strikes again. So, so shy. Is like. He's like, yeah. Hudson's Instagram, when he was dating Ariana, I mean, it was like, I love Jesus. I love Jesus. Now it's kind of like cars, cars, cars, partying cars. A little bit of Jesus. A little bit of Jesus. And they're like, yeah, yeah.
Ronnie
They're like.
Ben
And Charlie, it's like, there's still some Bible in there.
Ronnie
Charlie says. I mean, they. It's my understanding that there is still Bible stuff on that Instagram.
Ben
I was too busy torturing an Italian. But. But I have been told that while. That while I was zapping him with the ends of a. Ends of a lamp wire, that. That Hudson did in fact post a Bible verse.
Ronnie
Yeah, I was just getting. Getting this guy's pinky off with the cigar clipper. I read a Ephesians post, so that was. That was fun. And then Ariana is talking to. Is it Ariana or Ariana? I never pronounced this name right.
Ben
I don't.
Ronnie
I call Ariana from. Vanderpump rules Ariana all the time.
Ben
I don't.
Ronnie
Oh, Ariana.
Ben
Is it Ariana? I always call her Ariana.
Guest or Minor Speaker
From.
Ben
From.
Ronnie
I call her Ariana.
Ben
I call her Ariana.
Ronnie
Everyone else is like, you're always pronouncing her name wrong. It's Ariana.
Ben
Is Ariana mad at us? Like, all these years she's sorry.
Ronnie
Yeah, all these years, you sorry for adding a little regality to the plume. So they're talking about Hudson and Ariana. Ariana is like, I don't know who he's. You know, but then there's this girl on his story, and she's wearing his sweatshirt, but she's wearing my slippers. She's like, oh, my God. She's like, yeah. I mean, I don't even care if you're the girl, but you're disrespecting my slippers.
Ben
I mean, we saw what happened in Cinderella. Okay, don't disrespect the slips. Oh, my God. Like, what the. She's like, yeah. I'm like, I don't even know. I don't even care if you're like the girl, but don't disrespect my belongings, specifically the slippers.
Ronnie
Yeah. So then she's. Ariana is wearing, like, tight white skin. You know, like tights. Tights type things. And she bends over and say, am I on my period?
Ben
So then Shy is like, back to present. Shy is like. He's at the venue, by the way. He's like, so is that. Is everyone coming? Like, what's. What's going on? Where is everyone? And Ariana telling us how, like, today's been a lot. I wasn't expecting the Riley conversation to go in any way that it did. And on top of that, my friend Shy just pulled some. And earlier, we see that Amira and Ariana are FaceTiming. And Ariana's like, I don't think that Hudson is coming tonight because I got a text from him saying that he left. But then Shy called me earlier and was like. I told him that Liam's been flirting with you. So Amir's like, so maybe that's why he's not coming. The mystery continues.
Ronnie
Yeah. And Ariana is getting pissed because Shai used to be nice and he's supposed to be her friend, and now he's like, producer, plant messy pants all over the place, butting up to her boyfriend and trying to be friends with him. She's like, what the fuck? And Shai, she's getting pissed. But then Shy's like, yeah, she was really cool about it. Like, we talked on the phone. Like, I mean, I think she gets. It's like, she appreciates what I did. I'm totally fine with the cast.
Commercial Voice
What do you guys.
Ronnie
Why are you guys asking me all these pointed questions?
Ben
Yeah, seriously. So Ariana's like, I'm pissed. I was honestly in shock. You're supposed to be my friend, motherfucker. And you're. You're going to betray my personal life, my trust, my everything. I don't get it. But not going to bring it up at the party with Shy and Rowan are throwing together, because we can deal with this on our own time. Or alternatively, I will literally bring it up at the party that they're throwing. I'll do the exact opposite. I'm gonna do one of two things. I'm either gonna not bring it up at the party, or I will bring it up at the party. I guess not to see America and
Ronnie
cut to a Seth Marks video. Like, no one wins with confrontation ends. It's kind of rhymes if you think about it. And if you go through life and you're not even realizing that you're rhyming, that means you're leaving poetry as a Little trail wherever you go.
Ben
So Bricks shows up at Rocky Horror at the House of Yes. And he's like, wait. He goes up to. Sean goes, wait, am I the first one here? And she's like, I'm here. Oh, well, are you a big, like, Rocky Horror fan? He's like, yeah. I mean, I told my mom I was going this. And she was like, you're not in the know. I was like, you're right. I don't even know, like, Rocky Horror. Is it like, bad horror that's, like, very up and down. Like, I don't even know. Like, I don't even get it.
Ronnie
I'm sorry, am I the first one here? No, I'm still here. Oh, right. Have you heard of brown tea? Rocky chocolates?
Ben
And so then. So when he says he's not in the know, Brooks goes, what? Are you not in the know of what? He goes for the show. He's like, oh, tonight's like, yeah, tonight, because we're watching the show. He's like, oh, it's in there. Yeah, it's a show. We're watching. We're sitting down. We're watching a show. Oh, this is a musical. Like, Brooks's brain is just not allowing him to process the fact that they will be watching the Rocky Horror Picture Show.
Ronnie
Yeah, it's like, I love musicals. I was in a musical when I was a kid. I was seven. Pirate Queen. It was fine.
Ben
I played a pirate who disengaged. It was great. They told me to walk the plank. And I was like, ew. So then I went downstairs and sat on a barrel of rum.
Ronnie
It started off kind of bad because at the first rehearsal, my mom heard what the play was, and she marched in and she said, how dare you label my son?
Ben
So Amira gets into her Uber up in Upper east side. It's like. She's like, let me get the frick out of here. Someone had to make the joke somewhere. And Georgia. Georgia is with her boyfriend, Prez, and they're just, like, talking about, like, what time are we gonna go to bed? Like, 10 o'. Clock. It's 10 o' clock right now. Like, whatever. So. And then Amira. Amira is telling Kevin, like, I'm gonna get in the back of this band because I don't want you to sit next to that cut. Fitness.
Ronnie
Damn. So she's like, yeah, it's Halloween. Like, you know, like, you don't want to, like, have to sit next to people you don't, like. Like, it's scary enough without having to Sit next to Georgia. I mean, Georgia's pretty scary. Am I right? Okay. And then she changed. She moves it into. Georgia's like a germ. You just can't avoid her. You're gonna catch her eventually. And sometimes it might make you sick. And then, you know, other people will get it, and, like, you're like, wear a mask. But then you're like, I don't want to. I'm going to the frick. Forgot what I was talking about. I'm very busy. I've got a lot of jobs.
Ben
Yeah. And so she's like, Amira's upset because George's story is a bit inconsistent. Is it Charlie, or is it the gay Gabe grapevine that she found out about Amira complaining that Georgia was getting too close to Kevin? So then Liam and his buddies arrive at the venue. So it's Liam and Kendall and Jackson. And remember last week or so I said, kendall Jackson sounds like a wine. It is a wine.
Guest or Minor Speaker
Wine.
Ben
There is a wine named Kendall Jackson. Another thing that people. Many people.
Ronnie
Wait, we knew that already. Didn't we know? Of course. Kendall Jackson's a wine. I didn't tell you. Kendall Jackson's a wine. That's expensive wine that you get at the. At the store. Man, I'm really out of it. I'm so sorry. Well, didn't lead you on the Kendall Jackson path.
Ben
Well, here's another thing to add to it. One thing that we did not talk about, one thing that was not discussed. All that several people DM me about. Maybe they DM'd you too. Is that Jackson of Kendall and Jackson, who we only saw fleetingly. He is the son of Spike Lee. How about that?
Ronnie
Yeah, I didn't put everything together either. Well, there, you know, just.
Ben
Just want to show this is a real, real next gen situation. Right?
Ronnie
His Spike Lee. Is that a musical?
Ben
Spike Lee? Is that like an adverb? I did something Spikely. What does that mean? I don't get it.
Ronnie
Oh, so Liam gets to the front, the venue. Everybody's saying hi. He's like, hey, hey. Yeah, it's me. I'm an actor. So, yeah, that's just. Look on your list. You're gonna see actor, and that's me. All right, thanks, Tits. Yeah, thanks.
Ben
Hey, guys. Alan. Alan. Alan. Sorry, sometimes I just say Alan, short for Allen. Wrench just reminds me that I know how to do hardware. So, yeah, put together an Ikea closet the other day. I'm an actor, but I'm also a closet maker, and I volunteer at the firefighters union of Lake George, where I put out fires made by poorly constructed closets. Just a. It's just what I do. A lot of facets. Motorcycle.
Ronnie
Yeah. House of yes deep in Brooklyn. Like we couldn't find somewhere in Manhattan. Come on. Like, I mean, it's like 20 minutes to Williamsburg. Dumbo. Okay, like House of Yes is not in Williamsburg or Dumbo. So it's like the you part of Brooklyn. It's not the cool millionaires have taken over and gentrified it part.
Ben
Okay, seriously. Oh, wait, hold on a second. I think I'm getting a call from Soderbergh. Hold on. Oh, wait, it's just spam likely. I saw the ass and I just immediately assumed. Okay, so we're here, guys. We're here. Actor is here. And then meanwhile, Amira and Georgia are horrified because they are really deep into Brooklyn. Like, this is. This is really far. And Georgia says, I don't go into Brooklyn unless I invoice. Honestly, like, next time I'm invoicing commercials. Here comes one right now.
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Ben
Now, Georgia, where were you going to build Club? Club? Your brutalist bowling alley. Do you think that was gonna be a Manhattan club? That's a deep in Brooklyn club.
Ronnie
That's a Brooklyn club for sure. Also, the House of Yes is another missed thing from these guys on this show because that's a great movie with Parker Posey. So check it out. It's like a great class from that time. Great classic. So. Oh, sorry, go ahead.
Ben
No, I'm not gonna. I'm just gonna make a bad pun. It's not worth it. It's not worth it. You can move forward, I'm telling you right now.
Ronnie
So this Rocky Horror show is not the Rocky Horror Show. It's just a Rocky Horror themed show. And it is a very Brooklyn show. This is very you. You know that It's. It's Brooklyn.
Ben
It's themed. It's not the. I thought they were doing the show.
Ronnie
I don't think so. Because it starts with a big. Doesn't it start with a big logo of the mat? Like someone. A puppet? It's like a giant human puppet of the mouth with the tongue coming out and licking the stage. I don't think it's the show. I think it's a, like, themed night based on the show. But I don't know. Maybe because they didn't play the music from it.
Ben
Yeah, I don't know. There was definitely. They definitely put up something on the screen to be like. This music that you're hearing is not Rocky Horror Picture Show. But I thought that was because they don't have the rights to play the Rocky Horror music. But there was the lips thing. But I don't know. I've actually never seen the. The stage.
Ronnie
I have. Maybe that was part of it and I just forgot it. I don't know. I just assumed it was kind of a Rocky Horror themed thing.
Guest or Minor Speaker
I don't know.
Ronnie
Put it on. What the.
Ben
I think we should have a representative from the House of Yes. But the thing is this. They can't refute you. They're like, well, Ronnie is wrong, but unfortunately we're the House of Yes. So we just have to be like, yes. That's right.
Ronnie
Parker Posey can come out as the representative from House of Yes. Because she was in that movie. She can be like. Like, you don't even gotta click.
Ben
Oh, God bless. So, yeah, the show is happening and they. It's a lot of. Are they there yet?
Ronnie
Are they there yet?
Ben
Have they arrived yet? When are they gonna get here? They have arrived. They here? Who's here? Who not here? What's happening? Brooks goes, I love how random this is. Wow. And Shai tells us the Rocky Horror Picture show is like a cult classic. It's like a. It's like very audience interactive. I was like, yeah, thanks. Thanks for the. Thanks for the rundown there, Shai. I was. Was not. I was not well aware your show that is like playing to all like 30 and 40 year olds, you know.
Ronnie
So Charlie and Hudson are talking about whether or not Hudson's coming. It turns out he had the 9:30 flight out of there. And Shy's like, I have this whole conversation with Hudson where I tattletaled on his girlfriend for dating. Like, like maybe dating the new guy. And like, then he treats me like this. He doesn't even, like, text me before he gets on his private chat.
Ben
That's what. It's your fault, Shy. You shouldn't have done it in the first place. And now you learned the hard way. You. Now you see where you stand on the totem pole.
Ronnie
Rich people don't text their lackeys to say goodbye.
Ben
They don't.
Ronnie
So be less. Be less ready to be used by rich.
Ben
Until you have your chicken dynasty, you will not be getting a text back.
Ronnie
So then you're like your parents. Until your parents find extreme success in fried some things. Watch your goddamn mouth.
Ben
I like Gia arriving with. With some girls and she's like. She's like, I really, really am, like, rocking this Rocky Horror theme. I'm so Rocky Horror right now. Gia just looks like Gia. She's like, I'm so Rocky Horror. Or as I call it, Louie standing on gravel. Get it? So Ariana is like, yeah, you look. You look hot as. You look great. She's like, so do you. So then Shy. Then Shy is like sitting with Liam and he's like, hey, how was your date with Ariana? And he's like, what the you talking about? It's like your closet building date. And Charlie goes, oh, yeah, by the way, full disclosure, you've been aired out while. While we were playing pool recently. And you know, Liam's trying to. Ariana. That's what we were saying. Just so you know,
Ronnie
like, whoa, whoa, whoa. Wouldn't take it like that. Take it easy. I'm just getting to know her. I mean, if I were you guys, I would say, famous actor also knows how to build closets. And Ariana was there, so you're welcome. Do you have a pen? I'll sign Your shirt.
Ben
Charlie's like, well, unfortunately, sharpie doesn't really work on this bulletproof vest that I'm wearing for no good reason, but devil's advocate, because Charlie's dressed so. He looks so ridiculous. This entire episode, he's in this, like, vest. It's just the craziest look. And so he's like a devil's advocate, bro. You know, like, Hudson's our boy, okay? Because he's rich and, like, somebody like his ex girlfriend. Like, that's not kosher, so to speak. What is? Are you in Dick Tracy all of a sudden? Like, hey, don't you be sleeping with our boys. Girlfriends. Not kosher. We're gonna have to let Flathead know.
Ronnie
You gotta know what neighborhood you're in before you try pulling that. All right, Just a heads up, because this shutting kosher got me. It's Joe Allen's husband.
Ben
Yeah.
Ronnie
So then Lian's like, I'm. But I'm not talk. I'm not fucking her. What are you guys talking about? He's like, yeah, but you might, right? Like, that's. That's the goal, right? I mean, who builds closets for ugly people that don't want to fuck? Nobody, okay? Ugly people are not getting free closet work done.
Ben
No, they're not. They are not. So Liam says, I think there's bro code. And then I think there's, like, actors code. And I'm not sure they understand that last one. But there's also, like, trying to get rid of competition or trying to intimidate the new guy. But you can't intimidate me. I look sort of like a culin, and I'm friends with a famous person's son, so I think. I think. I rest my case.
Ronnie
You cannot scare Stella Adler, babe. Okay, try it again.
Ben
You can't do this in our town. Oh, my God.
Ronnie
Our town. I can't. Please don't ever make me sit through that show again. Anybody. That's just a general note to the world. So I was like, oh, do you see our perspective on that? Like, he's really rich, and you don't look really like, you can't do that. And Liam's like, okay, get where you're coming from. Okay, but where I'm coming from is law and order, so. Okay. I just want to get to know you guys kind of while there's camera here. And that's all I want to say about it. Hope we can put it to bed, okay? And Ariana's like, what are you guys talking about over here? Is it me?
Ben
And Liam's like, well, Charlie and Shai press me about Hudson a little bit, and Ariana's like, like, why? It's like, well, you know, they were just saying, like, you know, he's our boy. And I'm like, all right, you know, who's my boy? Any male in Risk Life. Because I was on Law and Order once, so I was like, what? What else is new, right?
Ronnie
It's like, what do you mean? They're boys? They've, like, been boys for, like, two months. I mean, two weeks since we started filming. Now they're boys. I'm sure. Okay, so she's pissed, and she's like, oh, my God, we haven't even got on a date yet. What is everybody acting like this for? So now she's really getting pissed off at Liam.
Ben
Yeah, she's like. She's mad. And Gia's like. Gia comes over and she's like, so I want to know. Oh, I know. She doesn't come over. She's actually just trying to understand, like, many people on this cast. She's still trying to understand the concept of Rocky Horror. So she's like, I want to know who Rocky is. Which one is Rocky? And Shy is like, I think it's that guy in the black. Oh, but that's not Rocky Balboa. It's like, no, it's not Rocky Balboa.
Ronnie
And he's like, yeah, this. Hey, look, they're, like, having, like, an orgy or something. That's what we did at Boys Night. And she goes, what? He says, sorry, bad joke. She's like, you know, something about Shy just rubs me the wrong way. Like, he's never done anything to me, but, like, he's telling my girl Ariana's personal business. Like, what the. Like, Ariana's been the one to tell me to give Shy a chance. Spoke too soon, babe.
Ben
Making jokes about orgies on the stage and saying it was like, boys night. So then they the.
Ronnie
That.
Ben
Now they. Now they go there after party. So they go from the house of yes to the house of after party. Wherever they go. And now this is where Georgia and Ava arrive. And Georgia is wearing a pigeon mask. Of course, she chooses the dirtiest bird in New York City. And she's like, I love my costume. I just can't see a thing. That's a thing. You know, pigeons are not known for their eyesight. And then they start showing all these clips of pigeon experts. Like, it's like, oh, look, this is funny. It's like contradicting all this funny all the pigeon facts that Georgia's saying.
Ronnie
But it is funny that Georgia dresses like the dirty rat bird of New York.
Ben
Yeah.
Ronnie
When her reputation is, like, she doesn't wash her hands that she dresses like this dirty poop bird of New York. By the way, I had to look up this show because it's been making me crazy. Is it Rocky Horror? Is it not Rocky Horror? Is it a Rocky Horror theme? It's in my head right now, and I had to correct it, so I came to search it here on Google. Look at me. I'm already too much for this cast, I'll tell you that. It says, a house of yes. In Brooklyn, the beloved cult classic gets a wild, immersive makeover with L lips. Rocky Horror Live. The highly theatrical event features aerial acrobatics, circus performances, burlesque, and live shout alongs.
Ben
So sounds like it's not the actual show, right?
Ronnie
Yeah, it's like an experience based on the show. I know that you guys were dying to know, so you're welcome.
Ben
Okay, well, let me tell you something else. She's a pigeon. And look, I have a book called Pigeons, and it's the fascinating saga of the world's most revered and reviled bird pigeons.
Ronnie
You do? Is it about how to cook them and turn them into a. What do you have a pigeon book for?
Ben
Well, I went to Powell's Books. You know what's actually hilarious? It's when we went to Powell's Books, like, seven years ago, eight years ago, and I saw it there and I was like, huh, this seems like a fun thing. It'd be fun to learn about pigeons. Because you know what? I actually do love a pigeon. I just think that they're gross. They're gross, but I love them, if that makes sense. Like, I don't. I don't like how they should everywhere. I wouldn't want to touch them. But I do enjoy their vibe. I like that they're city birds. I don't know. I enjoy a pigeon in a weird way. And I just like, I want to learn about pigeons. And then I got the book, and I promptly never read it. But here's. Here's a description. They have been worshiped as fertility goddesses and revered as symbols of peace. Domesticated since the dawn of man, they have been crucial to wartime communications for every major historical superpower from ancient Egypt to the United States and are credited with saving thousands of lives. One delivered the results of the first Olympics in 776 BC, and another brought the news of Napoleon's defeat at Waterloo more than 2500 years later. So I don't get that. But anyway, the point is the. This is a book that's going to tell us all about pigeons, and Georgia should read it, and then she would understand a little bit more about her Halloween costume.
Ronnie
Pigeons have been, like, the center of communication for, like, centuries. Pigeons were basically the tick tock at that time.
Ben
Pigeons were. It just took a really long time to upload your story.
Ronnie
There are, like, so many pigeons who have repeated the elbow dancing of famous queens throughout history.
Ben
Oh. Yet the pigeon is reviled today as a rat with wings. How did we come to misunderstand one of mankind's most steadfast companions?
Ronnie
Yeah, I know. People are gonna rag on me for. For calling them the poop bird of New York, but, you know, when you live in New York, they're known as, like, the flying rat.
Ben
I mean, they are.
Ronnie
You know, that's it.
Ben
Let's be honest.
Ronnie
Pigeons aren't great. I mean. I mean, what are you gonna do? I'm just saying, it's funny that in New York, they're a New York staple. Obviously, they're everywhere. But it's just funny that she dressed like the. The bird that everyone's like, ew, it's dirty. It's a poop bird. It's a rat.
Ben
It is a pooper. Let's be honest.
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Ben
The pigeon does many wonderful and interesting things, but it is ultimately, it's not almost even its fault. It's just that it chose to live in New York City and in all cities. And so it's just around all the garbage and just collects it. But if it were in a. If it moved out to the, you know, the. The countryside, it'd be a beautiful little bird.
Ronnie
It does look. What do you think of that?
Ben
They're basically doves, right? Right.
Ronnie
I don't know.
Ben
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Ronnie
But the. How do. How would I know? I didn't buy that book at that bookstore. I have a Kindle. I was taking pictures of stuff that I wanted to read on my Kindle, which is terrible. You know, actually, I do buy a lot of books, but I make sure I have. If they're books I have on my Kindle, I try to find them at the used bookstore so I could have them. So you can't just put a Kindle on your shelf on your bookshelf and be like, look, here's all the books I read. Scroll through, scroll through. Okay. Keep scrolling. So anyway, I'll read about the pages
Ben
after I'm done reading strangers. Okay, I'll report back.
Ronnie
Pictures are strangers. Don't wrap your mind around that one.
Ben
Wow. What a day.
Ronnie
Okay, penguin. So Georgia. Okay, pigeon. So Liam's like, is it a penguin? It's like, come on, you're from New York. It's a pigeon. Okay? So she keeps telling us pigeon facts that aren't true. She's like, you know what fun fact that the color. The weird colored pigeons don't touch the New York pigeons. Is that what she's saying?
Ben
She said they're great, but don't touch the ones that have weird colors.
Ronnie
Oh, oh, oh, I see. Don't touch the ones that have colors. And we find out that birds are very little danger. And this is like a pigeon expert that they got from social media or something. It's eclipse. Like, birds are very little danger to her. It's always wise to wash your hands afterwards, generally, right? I mean, it's wise to wash your hands after doing most things in New York City. Am I right? Internet. It's like, how did they find this little clip?
Ben
I mean, this.
Ronnie
This crew's so good on New York City.
Ben
They really are amazing. And also, that was not a real woman. That was six pigeons standing on each other's shoulders in a trench coat with a little wig on. Be like, pigeons are no danger.
Ronnie
The original video is just like if
Ben
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Watch What Crappens #3472 Recap — Next Gen NYC S2E05 Part 1: Riff Raff and Horror Shows (July 23, 2026)
Episode Overview Ben Mandelker and Ronnie Karam return to cover episode 5 of Next Gen Real Housewives of New York City, season 2. With Riley freshly departed, the cast’s drama shifts to a Rocky Horror-themed Halloween party at Brooklyn’s House of Yes. Ben and Ronnie, with their trademark irreverence and Bravo superfan snark, break down the episode’s pop culture confusion, shifting alliances, and the existential dread of a cross-borough Uber ride. Expect plenty of tangents, playful ribbing, and deep dives into reality TV nonsense.
On Rocky Horror Drama
On Brooks’ Family Chat
Pigeon Costume Deep Dive
On Not Getting Out to Brooklyn
On Slippergate
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