#3494 Below Deck Med S11E10: Fly the Coop

Summary

Watch What Crappens Podcast, Episode #3494

Below Deck Mediterranean S11E10: "Fly the Coop" (August 11, 2026)

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Ben Mandelker and Ronnie Karam dive joyfully and ruthlessly into Below Deck Mediterranean Season 11, Episode 10, dishing on crew dysfunction, leadership chaos, and messy boatmances. They lavish their signature blend of mockery and affection on this crew short-staffed on deck and overloaded with emotional baggage. As Captain Sandy searches desperately for a replacement deckhand, deck leadership, love triangles, and service fiascoes stir up trouble on and off the boat.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Norma the Elusive, Sandy's Staffing Crisis (03:06)

• Norma Jokes: The hosts joke about Norma not responding to staffing requests, imagining her at the Cannes Film Festival. Ben: “Maybe if you could do a better job on that boat, then I wouldn’t have to leave the can festival for your woods.” (03:56)
• Deckhand Shortage: Captain Sandy’s down multiple deckhands, leaving an exhausted and underqualified team to handle docking and demanding guests.

2. Nathan’s Absence and Gail's Dilemma (04:36)

• Nathan’s Family Emergency: Nathan FaceTimes with Sandy, unsure if he’ll return to the boat. Ronnie quips: “Lucky Gail. Now she gets to take care of two children.” (04:57)
• The hosts riff that Gail didn’t realize the “monkey paw” twist of wishing for more Nathan.

3. Crew Under Pressure: Docking Drama, Deckhand Duties (06:02, 25:55)

• Joe Steps Up: Joe’s named the acting bosun, Asia will have to help on deck, and interior stews are pressed into action for the upcoming tricky docking.
• “This is what leadership is,” Ben jokes about the desperate assignment of fender duty to untrained stews. (27:07)
• Flashbacks to previous Below Deck docking disasters raise anxiety, but the hosts insist the editing overhypes the threat. Ben: “I wasn’t scared this time. I felt like it was okay. I mean, technically, there was contact made because Kaylee threw a line out.” (30:14)

4. Jen vs. Kaylee: Bread Plategate (12:23, 40:40)

• Appetizer Plate Meltdown: Jen is incensed that caviar and oysters are served on bread plates, unleashing an inner monologue about service standards. “If my heads of service could see this right now, they would literally have a stroke!” (13:32)
• Ben and Ronnie lampoon her for acting as if a missing plate is a capital offense in yachting.
• Toxicity & Sabotage: Ronnie: "She’s just happy for Kaylee to fail and so she’s not gonna help her out when there are mistakes." (15:50)

5. Crew Dynamics & Messy Boatmances

a. Joe, Cooper, Kaylee, Cat: Love, Games, and Ego (20:28, 57:58)

• Cooper is drawn to Joe’s confidence and becomes his “patsy,” the classic noir fall guy. “He is always the patsy,” Ben says (11:23).
• Cat and Cooper’s flirtation derails as Cooper grows distant, confesses to feeling pressure, and is called out for classic reality TV guy behavior. Ben: “Anytime someone complains about pressure, that means they’re actually really not in it anyway.” (22:47)
• Joe tests Kaylee with juvenile “I’m going to talk to other girls”-games. “Why do you need to test her? Just do it,” Ben groans (59:15).
• Kaylee stands her ground: “You’re not getting any tonight, buddy.” (65:49)

b. Secret Relationships and Emotional Manipulation (81:24)

• Cooper proposes to Cat that they keep their relationship a “secret” for drama-free hookup benefits, a move the hosts eviscerate as a classic manipulation tactic.
• Ronnie warns: "Don't ever, ever, ever be with someone who tells you we should keep this a secret. Never. It has never worked out." (82:55)

c. Joy’s (Asia) Communications

• Joy keeps texting ousted deckhand Luke, to the hosts’ dismay. Ronnie: “You really must get lonely on these boats, huh?...it’s like prison love.” (31:41)
• Wedding and prison metaphors highlight compulsory coupling in close quarters.

6. Leadership Styles: Asia, Kaylee, and Jen (40:40, 83:05)

• Jen’s Service PTSD: Jen blames Asia’s “nice” management for her own dissatisfaction, longing for old-school chiefs who would “yell at you…if you missed a spot.” (47:31)
• Ronnie: "She wants to be yelled at. She wants to – she literally says it." (51:27)
• Kaylee diffuses Jen’s hostility by complimenting her and refusing to engage.
• Asia’s leadership is validated: “She has to be a team player, she has to connect…you’re not going to get ahead if you backstab up.” (45:03)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Joe’s Motivational Monologue: “I was made to lead.” (27:51, during docking chaos)
• Cat’s Heartbreak Realness: In confessional: “He played the shit out of me…for the first time ever, we hear the producer say, ‘I'm sorry, honey.’” (63:03)
• Ben on ‘Bread Plategate’: “She acted like this was a flagrant foul, like someone had shattered a glass and put it in someone’s bed sheets.” (14:31)
• On Norma’s Whereabouts: "Bloop. No, but I did find a dick in my hand." – Ben as Norma (33:23). Classic Crappens riffing.
• Prison Wedding Analogy: “Why don’t we compromise here and say this is just like a prison wedding in gay porn?” (32:21)
• Asia’s Noodle Therapy: Ronnie wishes for a montage: “...her just eating noodles in bed because it’s one of my favorite things after a night out.” (09:39)
• Cooper’s Manipulation: “These are not the gotcha you think it is, babe.” – Ben on Jen’s service standards (44:48)
• Max Incoming: When Sandy reveals who’s returning: “No, I’m so upset they’re bringing Max back for a third time.” (77:15)

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Key Timestamps

| Timestamp | Segment | |-----------|---------| | 03:06 | Norma jokes and staffing crisis | | 04:36 | Nathan calls in; hosts riff on his family situation | | 06:02 | Deck team prepping for under-manned docking | | 12:23 | Bread Plategate begins; Jen’s meltdown | | 20:28 | Joe and Kaylee’s parentship; Cooper starts pulling away from Cat | | 25:55 | Crew prepping for docking without Nathan | | 30:14 | Docking drama; Kaylee's fumble | | 40:40 | Jen vents to Asia about Kaylee; Asia tries to redirect her focus | | 47:31 | Jen bemoans the “good old days” of strict leadership | | 57:58 | Club Reveling scene: Cat and Cooper’s awkward distance | | 63:03 | Cat breaks down about Cooper; producer comforts her | | 65:49 | Kaylee holds firm with Joe’s mind games | | 81:24 | Cooper proposes to keep things with Cat secret | | 83:05 | Kaylee and Jen attempt to clear the air; Jen keeps her guard up | | 85:01 | Preference sheet meeting (next charter: gluten-free/vegan hell) | | 88:29 | Max’s return is revealed |

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Flow of the Episode

• Start: Immediate jump into the Below Deck Med debacle and Norma’s ghosting of Sandy.
• Mid: Deep dives into deckhand logistics, service standards arguments, flirtations, and emotional sabotage.
• End: Relationships splinter, secrets and emotional games multiply, and the announcement of Max’s return leaves the crew—and the hosts—exasperated.

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Final Thoughts & Tone

Ben and Ronnie gleefully blend insightful character reads with theatrical recreations and loving shade, especially regarding antics around leadership (or the lack thereof), service “catastrophes,” and the pitfalls of boat romance. The dynamic is irreverent but perceptive, employing reality TV tropes (“pressure,” “toxic positivity”) and Bravo-lore to expose the patterns and personalities driving the drama. Their affectionate mockery captures both the absurdity and the heart of Below Deck Med.

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(For a full replay of the laughs, shade, and signature tangents, listen to Watch What Crappens wherever you get your podcasts.)

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[Ronnie]

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[Ben]

Hello, Ben. Hi, Ronnie. How's it going? Good.

[Ronnie]

Welcome to the show everybody. Today is below deck. Midday Season 11 Episode 10 Crazy Stupid Love. If you want this on video, come to our Patreon. That's also where you get our bonus episodes. This week we're going to do a trailer trash for the new Real Housewives of Salt Lake City preview. You also get ad free listening over there newsletter. That's free Discord server to chat with each other. So join us over there. And thanks to everybody who supports us there. You can also find videos every week free. They become free on YouTube a week later. That's YouTube.com watch what happens. And today it's below deck, Mediterranean. Wow. You know, we've always been huge Norma fans on this show, but Norma, what are you doing over there? Just. She can't find anybody to get on this boat.

[Ben]

She's had enough, okay? Norma's got a life. She's got things to do. She doesn't need Captain Sandy bothering her every second for. For. For a deck hand. Okay, Enough. Let Norma live.

[Ronnie]

Do you think Norma's dating or something? And that's why she's distracted.

[Ben]

She's. She's, like, off at the Cannes Film Festival. She's just, you know, she's, like, mingling with celebrities. You know, she's watching her. Her phone go off here and there. See, it's just Captain Sandy, and she's just like, I'll get to her later. Right now, I'm gonna.

[Ronnie]

Hey, Ben, this is Captain Sandy. I think you misunderstood. Norma's at the can festival, where they celebrate cams. I started taking selfies with the Campbell soup, so.

[Ben]

Actually, there was Campbell. Campbell Scott that. That I'm with right now. He's a celebrity. I believe he was in a movie with Julia Roberts back in the day. I think that's what his name was. Anyway, the point is this. Maybe if you could do a better job on that boat, then. I don't. Then I wouldn't have to leave the can festival for your woods. As in, wouldn't it be nice if you had a deckhand? Sorry, can't help.

[Ronnie]

Bloop. Bloop. I'm not reading all that. But I wish you the best.

[Ben]

I don't need you to wish me the best. I'm already having the best at the world's best can festival. Thank you.

[Ronnie]

Bloop. The low deck med. Here we go. Crazy stupid love. It's the second day of Charter Croatia, and Sandy's on FaceTime with Nathan. He's like, I don't know when I'll be back, but, God, it's good spending time with Gail and the baby. I thought, oh, wow, Lucky Gail. Now she gets to take care of two children.

[Ben]

Yeah, exactly. I know. This is the. This is the. The monkey paw situation. Be careful what you wish for, Gail. You wanted more, Nathan. Well, you got more Nathan, and now you have to take care of both of them. And now he's probably moaning and groaning and surly and annoying and so.

[Ronnie]

So he can't even carry around the baby and stuff. So, yeah, be careful what you wish for. You wanted him back on this boat. She's probably just back There like, oh, my God, please go back to the boat. Please, please leave me alone with my baby.

[Ben]

I'm in pain. So Sandy's like, I have never been in this situation ever in my life. I got wordle on the first try. It's an unbelievable. Took me six years, but I did it.

[Ronnie]

Wow.

[Ben]

Never been in this situation. Also, I don't really have anyone working on this boat. Okay, My deck team is Joe. Okay? I've got Cooper, who's super green. There's Asia, who's the chief, Stew. And you know one of those little octopus things that you throw at the wall and then walks all the way down. You get on a cereal box. That's my fourth deckhand. It's a real problem.

[Ronnie]

So Sandy goes to talk to Joe, Cooper, and Asia, and she's like, oh, wow, guess what? We're on our own tomorrow, okay? And just like, Nathan. Nathan's out of action. Then is Nathan gone? What happened to Nathan? Contain your excitement, boy. Like, his eyes are popping out of his head.

[Ben]

His.

[Ronnie]

He's doing his teeth together. Smile like, this guy is so excited, bro. Have some chill.

[Ben]

Yeah, well, unfortunately, Nathan will not be here. He's not rel. Reliable. He's good old unreliable Nathan today, and he's not coming back for today.

[Ronnie]

We're.

[Ben]

Or tomorrow. So we're going to be docking this boat without him, unfortunately. I just. I really need you to focus, okay? So, Eisha, maybe we can put some people out there, you know, while you're docking. I think it'll be fine. Just fine?

[Ronnie]

Where?

[Ben]

Everything's gonna be fine. Why don't they just, like, radio to a neighboring boat and be like, hey, can we send the tender out and get one of your deckhands to come on board here and help us dock our boat? We had an injury. Like, is that allowed? Can you.

[Ronnie]

Well, that's a Sandy classic. Remember when they lost the chef and then they. Yeah. Didn't they get, like a. An assistant chef from another boat? And it was that. It was a Russian lady, right?

[Ben]

Duka, Dasha, Duka, Duska. Dushka. Yeah. She didn't know anything. She's like a classic. Yeah. I'm Dushka.

[Ronnie]

Yeah, Get Dushka back. Where's she? You know, they bring a lot of people back. It's like, why are we even thinking of Max when there's Dushka out there? Come on, man. Dushka was classic. So Joe's like, whoa, it's hard enough, you know, doing this with four decans, and now we've Got two true decons. And I don't know how we're supposed to do this, but I'm going to do it because I'm a hero. I'm a hero. So it's just like, we've got it. It's going to be fine.

[Ben]

So then in the pantry, Jen is getting. Jen is getting changed for the. For the dinner. This. Whatever she has to wear, like a flapper dress. And then the galley, Sandy and Joy are there, and Sandy's like, hey, so what's for dinner? Young French lady? She's like, lobster, caviar, bread, and oysters. What about Nathan? Oh, he's going to be okay. You know, we're. We're going to dock the boat tomorrow without him. I was wondering maybe you could help. I was thinking maybe you just take the. The wheel and then I'll. I'll drop an anchor.

[Ronnie]

How about that?

[Ben]

Are you comfortable driving a mega yacht? Is that within your skill set? Joy, I'm just. I'm in a desperate place.

[Ronnie]

Glad you're working on caviar, but I'm going to need you to unclog a shower. Someone waffle stomp some bread. So get up there, Joy. You can do this. It's all gonna be fine. And Joy's like, I can help you. I can see what's outside of the world, too.

[Ben]

Yes. Yes, I could. I could. I have a question. When you are docking the boat, do you need puff pastry? I mean, it wouldn't hurt, but I don't know. I'll circle back to you on that one.

[Ronnie]

So Kaylee is asking what she needs to put out for dinner. Does she need a thing for the oysters? I'm like, yes. Okay. And Asia's just listening to them. She's like, do you need my help with service? No, we've got it. We've got it. So Asha's so impressed with Kayleigh's ability to keep things running. I would take my help if it's offered, but it's not being taken. So I'm gonna lie here in a bed and take some noodles down. I wish we had montage of her just eating noodles in bed because it's become one of my favorite things after a night out.

[Ben]

Yeah, she. Although she actually changed it up this. This week, instead of doing noodles later on in the episode, she just shook a maraca endlessly. But yes, I agree. Asia eating the noodles in bed like, that is her thing. So now everyone's getting changed for. For dinner service, and Joe is like, well done today, mate. You did A great job. And Coop's like, thank you, brother. There's a way to motivate you.

[Ronnie]

Do it. Cooper, he's so easily influenced. I mean, yeah. Does he have a daddy issue? Like, what's his deal that he needs everybody to be his daddy? And then it's the second it turn. Joe finally turns him where he's bitched about Nathan so much, by the way. Nathan wasn't helping with his attitude, but he's finally turned Cooper to his side. And now Cooper is so Joe. He's like, I want to be a player. I just want with other girls, like daddy's doing.

[Ben]

Cooper is definitely the guy in the film noir who gets seduced into doing the crime and then is shocked when he's the one who gets arrested and. And everyone else gets away with it. Like, he is the one that Linda Fiorentino's like, has in her sights in the Last Seduction. He is the one that, like, Christopher Walken gets to, like, rob a farm in. At. At close range. Like, he is just the patsy. He is always the patsy.

[Ronnie]

Yeah.

[Ben]

And he. He, like, he gets excited when these people sidle up to him, whether it's like a sexual seduction or just, like, a friendship seduction. And then he gets. He. He's the one who gets caught. Like, the. The bright light of the police cruiser is on his face, and he's holding the bag, and God is like, wait, but my friend said he was coming back for these. I didn't rob the bank. It's like, yep, you got caught. And here.

[Ronnie]

You'll never believe this one, boys. This is in prison. It's also kind of like the little chicken in the cartoon that keeps running around saying, are you my mother? Are you my mother? Are you my mother? Are you my mother?

[Ben]

What? Wait, what cartoon is that? Like Looney Tunes?

[Ronnie]

Like, are you my mother? Oh, you're like, you my mommy or something. He's just, like, going around trying to find a new daddy with everybody.

[Ben]

With everybody falling, by the way. Fucking Chicken Little. Chicken Little, one of the. One of the most probably bottom two chickens in the world, right? The most annoying chicken. Why did anyone believe Chicken Little? Why did Chicken Little think the sky was falling anyway? Was it because it was raining or something?

[Ronnie]

Well, I mean, didn't he chicken? No one believed him. And the sky's still up, right? I don't know why he thought the sky.

[Ben]

Chicken Little feels like he would definitely be a reality star. So, like, so extra about something that's, like, not needing to be extra about.

[Ronnie]

Are you. Is. Are you mother. Are you my mother? Written by Dr. Seuss. No, he did not write that. It was written and illustrated by pde Eastman. Well, well, there you go, everybody. Petey Eastman looks shockingly like Stephen Sondheim just looked it up. So there's some useless information for everybody today. Run with it. So they're setting for dinner, and the stews are serving bread and oysters and blinis for caviar. And Jen serves the blinis, and she's like, oh, my God, there's no room. There's no. There's no. There's no other plate here. There's just a bread plate. Kaylee put in the whole effort to put down an extra fork for these appetizer, but didn't have the brain power to realize you need a fucking plate. I mean, the fact that I'm serving caviar and oysters on a bread plate, if my heads of service could see this right now, they would literally have a stroke. Hi, you're in service. It's part of your duty also to make sure the plates are sat, you know, or the plates are dropped for whatever is coming up next. And with someone, as someone with so much training, you should know that, Madame.

[Ben]

Yes, exactly. I mean, I feel like her monologue is hilarious. First of all, it's, like, crazy. This is a real monologue. I feel like it's a monologue that I would give from the spectator seat of watching it at home and talking about on a podcast. But if you're actually up there in the field and you have the ability to change it, I think what I would do is I would say, oh, you know what? Let me get you guys some larger plates. And then I would put the tray down on the bar and I would serve the larger plates. Because you're either. You're either going to be. Do the unprofessional thing, which is put the stuff, cram it onto a bread plate, or you're going to do the unprofessional thing, which is put the food down on the side for two seconds while you put out some plates. Because the plates are right there, right, Aren't they? Like, by the bar or something? So, like, this.

[Ronnie]

Or serve it. I don't know. It's. I mean, if they're. It's. If they're doing it kind of family style, Serve the food and then bring the plates. It's a cold food. It's not like it's hot food. It's caviar. Come on.

[Ben]

Yeah, but. But I did love that she Acted like this was a flagrant foul, like a huge demerit on Kaylee's work. And like, like she's acting as if someone had shattered a glass and then put it in someone's bed sheets and didn't say anything. Or even worse, came in bed sheets for three days and didn't do anything about it. So like, she's like, I cannot believe they have to eat the oysters and the caviar on a smaller than usual plate. It's absurd.

[Ronnie]

Yeah. And she says as she walks away, oh, I knew there weren't going to be appetizer plates on that fucking table. I'm not going to say a fucking word. And that's why you're never going to

[Ben]

succeed, because you're toxic.

[Ronnie]

Nobody wants to work with that. You're a toxic, horrible human being. Also, you're young, you know, and I get that. But that's a lot of change that's going to need to happen because nobody wants to work with somebody like that. That's. No, you don't lift others up by pushing or you don't lift up by pushing other people's down. Okay. I mean, like, but you know, you can. Like, if you push people down and then you stand on top of them, you'll technically be higher, but you'll also be standing on a lumpy person. And that's not. No way to stand. Like, your back's gonna start hurting and your knees are gonna be uneven.

[Ben]

Yeah, she's, she, she's just happy for Kaylee to fail and so she's not gonna help her out when there are mistakes. So she's just gonna, you know, she's just hoping that the guests will complain later and then Kaylee will, will get in trouble. That's what she's trying to do, which is toxic. It's not helpful. And that's why she's not going to do well. I would say she'll have trouble finding job and jobs in the yachting industry. Except it's clear she'll be back for like one or two more seasons of Blow Deck because they have to bring her back now. She is such a great, like, miserable stew and so funny that like, she has to be in the mix going forward.

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[Ben]

And then the producer is like, like, are you in Cat on the same Wave? He's like, oh, hell no. I mean, I still like that, but at the same time I don't like letting everybody's thoughts and I seep into what's going on between us. I can feel the pressure. What are you talking about? Like, what does that mean? You feel the pressure? Like, what does that mean?

[Ronnie]

Like, I think because everybody keeps telling them, like, oh my God, you were so cute. You better be good to Kaylee better or you better be to. You know what I'm trying to say? Don't mess it up with her. She's a great person. He's like, oh my God, are we dating? Are we married? But they're saying that because you act like that with her and also you're both such big goofy dorks that there's no, there's no real other option. You know what I mean? I think everybody is seeing it, but he wants to think of himself as like a Joe who's just going to be playing all the girls.

[Ben]

Yeah.

[Ronnie]

And it's like, no, babe, you're a big goofy dork and this is, this is your lot, right?

[Ben]

So, and, and like I get, I, I'm not like, oh my God, I'm confused by These words. What does that mean? Pressure. I've never heard of this. I. The point is that, like, I on, like, we've heard it a million times from a million guys on a million of these shows. Like, oh, my God, there's just so much pressure. But what does that really mean? When you drill down to it, what does it really mean? People are asking about your relationship. They're being nosy. Sure, if you don't want. If you don't want to have to keep on having to just, like, talk about your relationship. You just tell people, listen, I like her, but the more you guys ask me, the more I'm getting frustrated. I don't want to hurt her. Whatever. You just say, please stay out of my business. But, like, this idea that you're gonna blame her for it and you're gonna pull away from her because you can't handle other people's questions is, like, so unevolved. I think, well, that's Cooper.

[Ronnie]

I don't think anybody would judge. I don't think anybody would judge. Cooper is evolved. You know what I mean?

[Ben]

Definitely.

[Ronnie]

No one would see him and be

[Ben]

like, wow, but just such a stupid excuse in general. It's like, it is, but it's a

[Ronnie]

new one at least, because normally it's like, she's pressuring me. She's pressuring me. I'm feeling so much pressure. And usually that's non existent too, but that's just what they say. And in this one, it's like he's feeling the pressure from everybody else, which is so weird. It's just like, we're so famous. We're just such a huge celebrity couple, and it puts pressure on our relationship.

[Ben]

I kind of think that, like, anytime someone complains about pressure, that means they're actually really not in it. It anyway. Because if you're not in it, the reason why you feel pressure is that you're feeling pressure to play the role of the boyfriend or the whatever. Like, you're. You feel the pressure that you have to see this thing through, and, you know, you actually have no interest in seeing it through, and you're only in it for maybe some booty, you know, and now there's pressure on you to do more than that. That's where you feel the pressure. So I think anytime anyone says it's too much, there's too much pressure or whatever. Whatever it means that they actually are just not into it. I think that's like the. I think he's got right to it.

[Ronnie]

He's clearly not into it. But it's not like she's just chasing him. He was doing this. And that's what makes me crazy. Specifically on below deck, where they're like, oh, my God, I'm so in. I'm so in. I just want you to know I really like you, and I'm gonna take you on a diet, and you're just the kind of girl I'm always looking for. And then suddenly, it's like, some other dudes, like, well, you should be dating around. There's so much. There's so many people that ears. You shouldn't tie yourself down. You know, that's not the way to do it. And then suddenly he's like, yeah, I ain't gonna talk myself down. And almost, like, wants to look cool. And then it's like, what is she acting crazy for?

[Ben]

Yeah.

[Ronnie]

You know, we just met.

[Ben]

People are just ridiculous.

[Ronnie]

Loser.

[Ben]

Loser.

[Ronnie]

What a shame. So. And I knew it was gonna happen. I mean, we knew it was gonna happen. We knew he was just too nice. And we know this man is from Charleston. It's his Charleston. What did I say?

[Ben]

No, I was agreeing. I was like. You said Charleston. I said Charleston.

[Ronnie]

Oh, yeah, Charleston. I was thinking in the regional DNA. So we knew that this was. Something was going to happen. But the fact that he can still do with that big, goofy smile on his face, his eye does get a glint when he's being mean, you know, but he still got that big, stupid, goofy smile. It's just. It's just disappointing, okay?

[Ben]

Yeah, it is. It is, because I can't believe in anybody anymore.

[Ronnie]

If I can't believe in Koopa, where am I? Who am I?

[Ben]

What is this world? So Joy's making breakfast, and then on the deck, Sandy's like, okay, Joe, we're gonna need. We're gonna be next to a big boat that's in there, okay? Or as I like to call it, a Norma boat. Okay, Sorry. I wish I got. I wish I had texted that to her. I don't know if she would have liked it, but I would have. So I want to talk to the interior, because you can't really touch a line. Okay? You got to talk to me. So go give them some lessons on throwing lines. Do you think that this could go wrong by having a bunch of people who've never been on the deck throw lines to the dock? You think you can do this? It's like, I could do it.

[Ronnie]

Super important. I want to make sure. We all know it's extremely dangerous if you have touched lines without being trained. So get everybody over here for five seconds of me saying, go get the lines. Okay, let's go, team.

[Ben]

Let's go, team. So Joe. Joe tells Kaylee that he's gonna need her. And Caitly tells us, since Joe's kind of become the boson and I'm the acting chief Sue, I kind of feel like we've become an accidental power couple. But I'm normally in the interior, and I've not done this before, so this is, like, really scary. Even for someone who's in an accidental power couple, it really is on each team member to pull their weight because everyone on this boat knows how bad a docking can go. Should we cue the flashback? And once again, this is, like, now going to be Sandy's bane of her existence. Every episode, they find a way to show the boat crashing into the dock and then something falling off the cupboard in the galley. And then. And Jen in the stu mask every episode.

[Ronnie]

Yeah, it's like the Captain Jason. Wasn't it Captain Jason who, his first season, talked about how he crashed into a restaurant or something.

[Ben]

Yeah.

[Ronnie]

And then.

[Ben]

And then Glenn. Glenn crashed, too.

[Ronnie]

And then Glenn. And they never let it go.

[Ben]

It's still.

[Ronnie]

It's like, well, we did a good job. We saw a seal today. Cut to a boat crashing 20 years ago.

[Ben]

Oh, look, Roy Orberson Junior's coming back on this boat. Cut to the boat just crashing. Whoa. That was that a commentary on his music career.

[Ronnie]

So Joe brings every team member interior and joy to assist with docking. And, you know, it's like, oh, girls, girls. Get to the. Get to the tinders. One side each. Fenders. Fenders. Not tinders. Fenders. Joy, you're on the bow with Asia. I'm going to teach you now everything. Kaylee, you'll be with me on this end. This is what leadership is.

[Ben]

Oh, God, there's a lot of wind. Oh, man. Of all the times for them to drop a new episode. It's right when I'm trying to dock. Oh, God. Okay, Chefy, you're on anchor. Cat, you're on that line. Kaylee, you're on offender. And, Jen, you just braid your braid. Just put those braids down and just look crazy. Okay. Maybe scare away a boat so we have more clearance.

[Ronnie]

Since the beginning of the season, I believe myself to be a boson. I didn't expect to have to prove it. Docking a boat down 2 decans. I was made to lead.

[Ben]

Okay, sure. He's finally pulling out of that hole that he found himself in when he sold a house to a fraudster and then had to dump his girlfriend in shame.

[Ronnie]

Yes.

[Ben]

The Joe backstory.

[Ronnie]

Oh, my God.

[Ben]

That's what this is all building. That's what this is building to.

[Ronnie]

After.

[Ben]

After I was defrauded when I tried to sell a flat to someone and they ran away with the money. And I was so embarrassed. Like, I just. I had to leave my girlfriend because I couldn't even bear to look at her face. And this is the first time I felt successful since then. You know, that monologue is coming very soon.

[Ronnie]

Oh, man, I forgot that backstory. I love that, because it really didn't make sense. Right. He was selling real estate, but then someone ran away with a bunch of money. What money?

[Ben]

Some sort of down. I don't know. There was some exchange of money that was not secured. And, like, someone ran off with the money. The house was not sold. He either lost a job or got into trouble or who knows? And then he was. He had been dating the love of his life, and he was so upset by the thing that this whole situation that he dumped her because he couldn't bear to, like, go back to her

[Ronnie]

and couldn't bear the real estate shame.

[Ben]

And nothing. Nothing made sense.

[Ronnie]

Didn't they show him? Wasn't he like. And I was so depressed. I went through a dark depression. And then they showed him eating a sandwich, and we were like, oh, my God, the depression. It's like whatever picture they chose to show of him was him just eating a sandwich sweatily.

[Ben]

Just like, oh, it was an AI generated backstory. Let's be honest. It was. This was like, AI slop of a backstory.

[Ronnie]

There's a lot of wind. Oh, my gosh. They're using an AI version of Lou Diamond Phillips in this one. This is good. Hope you guys have everything covered. I'm watching. This looks scary as hell, by the way. It looked like they were going to hit the other boat because they're always trying to scare us. Like, oh, my God, we're almost gonna die. This is gonna work. Everybody on the boat. Everybody overboard. Try to get to Kathy Bates's tender. Try to get to Kathy Bates. But this time, the boat really did look like it was about to hit the other. The other.

[Ben]

But, you know, I wasn't scared this time. I felt like it was okay. I mean, technically, there was contact made because Kaylee threw a line out. Yeah, I'm sorry, Ronnie. I was unaffected by the editing this time.

[Ronnie]

What bravery.

[Ben]

Yeah, well, I have faith. I had faith. You know, Joy was on anchor. I was like, it's okay. Kaylee does at one point throw a line to the dock and she misses and just thwacks a police boat that's like next door. And she's like, I made it feel.

[Ronnie]

It was worse when Jen started throwing appetizer plates at the billionaire boat. It's like,

[Ben]

yeah. And then when she went over to that boat was like, you want to. So then Joy is. She's texting with Luke, which really is so disappointing. I mean, you really must get lonely on these boats, huh? Like, you're just isolated and horny and you have this guy with a great, tall, great body who's just love bombing you with via text. I guess that you would be susceptible, but God, I just wish she would to have higher standards. And she, or not even higher standards. I just wish she just had someone else that she could.

[Ronnie]

Higher standards. I think that's fair to say. I agree with that.

[Ben]

Yeah.

[Ronnie]

But I think it's prison. I think it's like prison love. You know, you're stuck, so you're stuck somewhere. There's no other options. I mean, look at all the things that people do in prison. And gay porn.

[Ben]

Yeah, well, I, I, I think that's a great example. She's like in a gay prison. Gay porn right now.

[Ronnie]

I was gonna people do in prison, but I really don't know. I mean, my only experience with prison is that Netflix where all the ladies are in prison. Or like gay porn.

[Ben]

I think the better example is like a wedding. You go to a wedding and it's like, oh, gosh. You know. But then, you know, because a lot of people go to weddings just to hook up with other wedding guests. But then you're like, you get there and you're like, no one really. No one really worthwhile. But then after a while, you're like, these are my only options. And then people start getting drunk and eventually people start to hook up. Because this is, you know, you have higher standards in general, but within the confines of the wedding, this is your only pool. So you just gotta like, you, you make it that.

[Ronnie]

You know what? Why don't we compromise here and say this is just like a prison wedding. In gay porn, it's basically the same thing. So you gotta kind of excuse it, you know?

[Ben]

There we go. That seems right.

[Ronnie]

So Joy's texting with Luke and he's like thinking about you a lot. I'm really thinking about you. You know, doesn't he give her a voice or like a video text where he's like, like, it's you, you that I'M thinking of. I hope that you get this. And you're thinking of me too.

[Ben]

Good old Luke. So, so the guests leave, and Asia. Asia's like, oh, my God, you did so well, Kelly. And Jen just watching, like, she doesn't know about the appetizer plates. And now they've got a Sandy's on the bridge, and she's texting Norma. She's like, please tell me you found a deckhand.

[Ronnie]

Bloop. Bloop. No, but I did find a dick in my hand.

[Ben]

Bloop. I, I don't, I don't think now is the time for joking, Norma. We know that that never really would ever happen with you. Bloop. Bloop.

[Ronnie]

Bloop. It's not a joke. I went to a wedding in a prison in a gay porn. I'm in love. I'm not staffing anymore. Good luck to you. Dumb.

[Ben]

I, I, I don't even know what to do with that information, but I have to say that if you went to a wedding in a, in a gay porn, they all like me first. Bloop. I turned them gay.

[Ronnie]

Bloop.

[Ben]

They're my sloppy seconds.

[Ronnie]

Bloop. Blue. You know what? I've got a microwave. I'll heat them up.

[Ben]

You don't have to heat anything up because the hot stuff is happening over here at the Cannes Film Festival.

[Ronnie]

I just got a report from another boat that someone threw an appetizer place at a police. An appetizer plate at a police boat.

[Ben]

That is very concerning. I'll have to ask the policeman in my bed what to do about that.

[Ronnie]

Bloop. Listen, I gotta go, but I hope you watch the Last Wind with Blue Diamond Phillips. It would have been a terrible one to miss. He was on AI for 5 seconds. Hope you didn't miss it. Lady who was busy during the talking.

[Ben]

I got an advanced screener of it, actually, because guess what? Last night, I had sex with Lou Diamond Phillips. Bloop. Cannes Film Festival, baby.

[Ronnie]

Norma's just gonna leave her on red. So I really like that Norma found somebody. I'm so happy for her. So, main salon tip meeting. Wow. Not a lot of people are here. Look at that. Thankfully, you're all thin and gorgeous. Okay. I loved watching you all work together. You know, there were no egos involved, just a lot of eyebrows. Okay. And someone who kept running around the deck screaming, I was born to be a leader. I was born to be a leader.

[Ben]

By the way, I just want to say I think that in the middle of that, that interchange, I Think I switched over to Norma in the middle of it. So I think we were just Norma texting Norma, which probably clarifies that.

[Ronnie]

Probably Norma to texturbate.

[Ben]

People are like, why would Sandy be texting that? Sorry.

[Ronnie]

Well, it's a weird one today. It was a weird episode today because we didn't know what to do with ourselves. Well, everybody did great. I'm so proud of you, Joe. I got a phone call from Nathan, and guess what? He's not coming back next charter. And I don't know when Nathan's coming back. But here's the thing. Joe's eyebrows have gotten even stronger. So we've got all three Joes here today, okay? So congrats to Joe and the two little Joes.

[Ben]

Yeah. The good news is that this boat now has two more anchors and they're called Joe's eyebrows. So Sandy is like, basically puts Asia on deck again. And Kelly's gonna be heads do once again. So curious.

[Ronnie]

I don't know if you said that already, but he's like, I don't want to go tmi, but I'm fully erect right now. We know. How's this different than any other day?

[Ben]

Okay, everyone send out good vibes for Nathan, okay? Because we're still going to share our tip with him. And because you did such a fabulous job, you have the day off tomorrow. And I've arranged for you all to go to a beach club. And I've organized a really special dinner for you tonight, okay? You're gonna be having branzino there. I said it's branzino. God, I can't help it. I got. I love that branzino.

[Ronnie]

Meeting adjourned. So does. Do they still have to split the tips with Nathan? Wonder if she's probably good.

[Ben]

They do. Yeah. Yeah, they do.

[Ronnie]

Yeah, I guess so. I guess that's normal. So then we go to crew cabins. Jen FaceTimes her mom, and we get to see her mom, which I really loved because her mom's like, hi, John. She's like, typing in some financial office in some, like, corner office somewhere. Like, hi, John. Hi, honey. She's like, mom, things aren't going smoothly on service. Things were just not how they were supposed to be. I just can't do that's Mom. You know me. I'm like a perfectionist with appetizer place. You know me, mom. That's a girl you raised.

[Ben]

And her mom's like, well, you know, I did. I saw a post on. On social media. It's you. Are you on that social Media network, honey. It's called Successful Parents that Whose Children Can't Surpass Them. It's a great site. So I saw a post on it, and it said I had to stop expecting me from other people. Jen's like, I'm not trying to be jealous or competitive or a right now, but if I continue to cover Kaylee's ass, that's not going to be the best thing for the boat long term.

[Ronnie]

It literally is.

[Ben]

First of all, it's covering. I do agree. She's not trying to be jealous or competitive or she just is those things. She's not trying.

[Ronnie]

Her mom just knowing exactly who her daughter is is so great. And just, like, sitting there doing whatever she's doing, like typing. She's like, okay, well, you know, I saw a post. It just says, stop trying to expect me and other people. Okay. Like, she's got a whole calendar that she can flip through of to just tell her awful child whatever she calls her, you know? Geez, here's jealous Jen again.

[Ben]

Jealous, Jealous Jen.

[Ronnie]

Yeah.

[Ben]

So then we go to the pantry, and Asia is texting with Nathan. She's like, hey, Nathy, Wavy, I'm worried about you. Let me know how you're doing. And he's like, his. My back is trying to do therapy, so I'm not out for too long. I'm like, you're done for the season. I hate to tell it to you. You're done for the season. If you've got a bulging disc, there's no way that three days of physical therapy is going to get you back there where you can just be hauling things, whatever. Maybe you can be walking around and ordering people. But, like, I think Nathan is done. He's toast.

[Ronnie]

Yeah, this is a pretty active job. He's like, well, I just saw a nurse, and she said, don't give Joe my job, please. Doctor's order. Doctor and nurses orders both. So then we go to Coop and Joe cleaning, and Joe's like, look, I'll fucking say it. I'm glad Nathan's gone for this charter. Yeah, when he's good, he's good. But as soon as that tension's there, it's like, God, none of us want to be there. Am I right, Dad? I mean, I want the best for him, dude, but you may not be my birth daddy, but you are the best daddy I've ever had this week.

[Ben]

Oh, I miss my daddy. So then we go to the main salon, and Jan is like, she just wants to sit and talk with Asia. So she's like, oh, hello. What's going on? She's like, honestly, I feel like there was like a lot of behind the scenes struggle. Just like a lot of things missed on service. Just like a lot of stupid stuff. I mean, have you ever seen two things put on a bread plate before? I mean, I. I can't. I can't. I guess we matched. Thinking about it, it's just like, why is there no appetizer plates when we're serving the caviar for the oysters? I kind of got in, like a little bit of a mood last night because I felt like, you know, small plates for double appetizer. Like, what are we doing here?

[Ronnie]

Am I right, Asia?

[Ben]

Am I right? If you don't agree with me, I know you hate me.

[Ronnie]

And Asia's face was just like, oh, you know, she has that just cringe on her face. Or she's like, oh, God, you just make yourself look worse every episode. And I know how this is gonna go for you in the public eye, you know, she's like, oh, well, things aren't gonna go smooth inside anyway because we're too down. We're just kind of in survival mode. Yeah, well, you have a noodle hanging from your mouth is awkward. And I think that, like, Kaylee is, like, really struggling, and I think all have been in tears if it was difficult. Guess I mean, she sucks. Wow, she's. She's really bad. I mean, is this. Is this how we're going to put our guest? That we're putting our guests in danger? You know, someone could have choked on caviar that had a breadcrumb on it. I mean, who does that?

[Ben]

When you don't have enough room around the caviar, you get flustered. And when you get flustered, you die. Do we want people dying on our yacht? I don't think so, Eisha. I don't think so.

[Ronnie]

Fish gave up his eggs for this. You know what I mean? Well, it's hard because I know you've been a chief stew in your mind somewhere, but I really want to make sure that you're respecting the fact that Kaylie is bigger, stronger, cuter, sweeter, more amazing, and always going to have a first place ribbon around her neck. You understand that, right? I think that's all Jen hears. She's like, what? Like just her face of Asia standing up for Kaylee. She's like, respect your balls. All right then. Okay, run back to it, you little maniac. Literally.

[Ben]

So Jen is like, when you're working for some of the richest people in the world, you learn what real service is. I was a service do on the second lar. I'm sorry. On the largest sailing yacht in the world. I had to sign an NDA the size of the book Dune. Okay, pause for laughter, as everyone recognizes that Dune universally is known as a very large book. Okay, okay. And I know Asia, that has that high standard. So it confuses me why she would be so accepting of these little slip ups. Okay? I was on a very important sailboat with a. I'm like, did. Are you sure that you just didn't. Someone just didn't give you the book Dune? She was like, I had to sign an NDA and it was all about the Harkonnens and spice. And let me tell you something, those worms, you can ride them, but you didn't hear it from me. That's all in the NDA.

[Ronnie]

Let me tell you who didn't serve appetizer plates. The people in Dune. There was not one appetizer.

[Ben]

No, there wasn't.

[Ronnie]

You work for the richest people in the world, okay? But you're not. You're working for tattoo shop owners. And I mean, you know, that was just the latest of a long list of yokels that come on the show. You just had a fake dating show on here last week, okay? These are not. This is not a musk boat, okay? Everyone is going to survive the last charter. They were asking for chicken tenders, okay? No one is going to freak out about not having a separate plate for the caviar. Just calm down. This is not the gotcha you think it is, babe. Game.

[Ben]

Yeah, it's. It's not. So Asia's like, oh, thank you for your hard work. Which is her way of being, like, off. And Asia's basically like, look, Jen has been a really competent stew.

[Ronnie]

She's.

[Ben]

She's good. But she doesn't realize that, like, she has to be a team player. She has to connect with other people and with the guests and like, you, like, you're not going to get ahead if you backstab up.

[Ronnie]

Leave.

[Ben]

Don't backstab.

[Ronnie]

So now Jen's pissed and she's walking through the cabins like, I hope that the next guests are. Are really. So the cracks will show. So showing. You're the crack.

[Ben]

You're the crack.

[Ronnie]

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[Ronnie]

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[Ronnie]

So then we go to the crew cleaning cat finds Jen crying and she's like, are you okay?

[Ben]

What's wrong with you?

[Ronnie]

It's like, oh my God, like, Asia doesn't even like me, okay? Like, I mean, I miss the days when like the chief stew would yell at you and like scream at you if you missed a spot on the placement, if you. You broke a Dior water glass jug or something like that.

[Ben]

What? What is Jen. Jen is 22. What? What is she sitting here saying? I missed the days when chief dudes would yell. You're. You missed. You. You just had your senior prom. What are you talking about? You missed the days of like the of of your. Yeah, it's like you're acting like you've been doing this since 1977. Okay, I just missed the days. But even, even crazier. Oh, there's a full on mosquito in here. I'm gonna kill this mosquito. Ah, I missed it. I like, I love how she's just pining for toxic leadership. She's like, oh, I just want to be yelled at. I want to be yelled at. I want to be walking on eggshells. I want to be scared. I want to be uneasy for eight weeks in a row. I want to be having. I want to be breakout into nervous sweats and have stress dreams. That's what you call service.

[Ronnie]

Yeah, she's not getting her way. So now Asia's a terrible chief stew. But, you know, if you had the chief stew that you wanted, they wouldn't have just stood by while you let somebody sleep in spermy sheets. You know what I mean? That would have been a huge no, no. Like, you news that somebody was sleeping in sperm, and you just laughed about it and did nothing. You would have been fired if you had a chief stew like, you're talking about. You are so You're. You just don't see how lucky you are, you dumb, dumb child.

[Ben]

I, I. Part of me wonders if she is basically saying, like, yeah, I got yelled at, but I knew exactly where I stood with someone. I knew if I was doing well, if I knew if I was not doing well. And here she's like, I can't tell. Everyone's nice, but I can't tell. People secretly hate me. And she's just trying to, like, guess what people think. And it's. It's making her crazy. But, like, I, I think that's giving

[Ronnie]

her a lot of credit. I think that she's. I think that she's mad because Asia's being so nice about. She's uplifting Kaylee. So she's like, oh, yeah, Asia's a shit stew. And that's why every. Or she's a chief or whatever. So that's why everything's going to hell. Because, you know, I missed the day when there were, you know, chief stews who actually care and who actually, you know, are perfectionists. Not like this sloppy ass noodle eater.

[Ben]

Yeah, like, yelling shows that you care. But, I mean, you see this a lot of times in, like, Hollywood Assistance. Like, when I was an assistant, first studio exec, he would yell at me all day long, and I couldn't deal with it. And I just finally. I finally quit. And then I had, like, when I gave my two weeks notice, he stopped yelling at me because it was, what's the point of yelling at me? And then he was like, you've become such. You're, like, a much better assistant now. As soon as you quit. I was like, because you stopped yelling at me. But, like, the people. There's like this weird thing where, you know, the assistant that will work well for that guy is someone who actually enjoys being yelled at in a weird way. And then in turn will rise up and yell at the person below them. And, like, there is this abusive cycle that happens in Hollywood and quite frankly, probably in many other industries. And I think that, like, Jen is one of those people.

[Ronnie]

In the bowling alley, my Aunt Josie would follow me around going, did you paint that ball holder? What do you call it? The holder of the balls. They look like library shelves, but all the balls are. You know, it lines up. The bowling rod racks or whatever. I had to paint those. And she just kept coming up behind me. I would hear her keys jingling on her pants. And then she'd be like, did it wrong. Do it again. Start from the beginning. Start from inch one. And she was like, a hard ass like that. And I was always like, oh, my God, she hates me. But, you know, those racks had about 10 coats of paint by the time I was done. And then I saw her at, like, Christmas or something. It's like, you did a great job, kid. And I never felt better, you know,

[Ben]

it's like, wow, I really earned that.

[Ronnie]

I really earned it.

[Ben]

Yeah.

[Ronnie]

The bowling alley, rack painting industry. And it was all because someone was on my ass. So thank you, Josie.

[Ben]

Well, some people love a boss that yells at them, and they, in turn, become those bosses, and Jen is one of them. She wants to be yelled at. She wants to. She. She literally says it. You know, sometimes it could be problematic to be like, oh, she just wants to be yelled at. She's just asking. She literally is asking for it. She's like, I want to be yelled at.

[Ronnie]

And I can guarantee you, if she had a chief stew on this season that was actually like, that and yelling at her. She'd be crying and saying, she. Everyone hates me. And then she wouldn't be able. She doesn't want it. I think she's just saying that Asia sucks. This is her way of saying Asia sucks. Because if she really had somebody like this, she would be crying her eyes out, out and trying to, you know, get that person fired, just like she does with everybody else that she doesn't like, you know?

[Ben]

Yeah. And Cat is just like, yeah, you've got to work on your attitude. Like, she's like, I'm so serious, Jen. Like, you need to fix your attitude. Otherwise it's not going to end well. You're gonna get fired. It's like, how. How much can I tell you? Like, you need to stop acting like this.

[Ronnie]

That's a good friend. Yeah. By the way, he's just honest with you. Like, come on, get it together. And so Kat says she supports Jen a lot, but we're working as a team. You can't bring your past traumas into the workplace. So now we go to one of these things that we just saw in Southern Hospital where everybody eats dinner in the sky. They go up on a big table that's lifted on a crane, and then they're just hung there and everything they're served was already in that center little section, just kind hidden behind a little bar, I would assume. Right. Or do they have little people flying over to give them?

[Ben]

No, I think they have all. Everything's, like, prepped back there. But, yeah, I don't want to go on one of these, not because I'm scared, but because I just feel like I just don't trust that the food is any good. And now I'm trapped up there, and I. I'm stuck with bad food. Like, I'm sure it's like, probably want to get up.

[Ronnie]

I'm gonna go to the bathroom. You know, what about that? I want to go talk about people while we vape outside. I want to just be stuck there.

[Ben]

It's like, okay, there's a beautiful view, but guess what? I don't generally want to go to a restaurant that has a beautiful view, because those also are sucky. I'm not, like, I'm not trying to eat a restaurant at the top of a tower. I'm not trying to eat at the restaurant at the top of the CN Tower in Toronto. So everyone, just in case there was questions about that, if you were about to say, what about the restaurant in the CN Tower? No, I ate there in 1992. I had breakfast there. It was stupid. Okay? They're all tourist traps. Anything with a good view. If my restaurant rotates, I don't want to be in it, Okay? I want no windows.

[Ronnie]

I want a view of white, fluffy bread. Okay.

[Ben]

Yeah.

[Ronnie]

And pasta. Like, the food. That's what I want a view of.

[Ben]

That's all I want to see is I. I want to be in a dark basement with little candlelight things and tweezers, okay? That's what I want.

[Ronnie]

Or I want to be in the house with all the curtains closed and a blanket over my head while I just shove dominoes down my throat like Domino's, wrapping the breadsticks that you can also get from. Yeah, that's how I like it. That's the view I want.

[Ben]

Don't, like, don't buckle me into a. Into a dinner that's suspended by a crane. That. That just. It's just annoying to me. I hate it.

[Ronnie]

Yeah. So.

[Ben]

But they're so.

[Ronnie]

Cooper's next to Cat, and Cat's, you know, being fun, and she's like, oh, my God, are you gonna get wasted tonight? Your eyes look. And he's just kind of like, no. And he won't look at her, just, like, smiling at everybody else. And she's like, your eyes look really green tonight. And he's like, yeah, well, we're about to miss the sunset. It's about to disappear everybody. And she's like. Just takes a swig of her wine. They're like, don't do that. We're over the hump. Okay?

[Ben]

It's like, what? Yeah. What was. What does even that mean? And she goes, what'd you say? I complimented you. And he. She's just like. There's some weird energy, you know, and they just aren't looking at each other or. Or talking. It's, like, very, very immature on his part and mean, actually. It's like, very, very mean. And so Kaylee, they're just all talking around the table, and. And Joy is saying how Luke is texting her, and Kayla's like, I mean, you literally lock him. I mean, do you say something with him? She's like, I don't know. He. Someone else. He can run after me for a little while. We have to encourage when someone is coming back and apologizing and writing letters, you know?

[Ronnie]

He did. He did all that.

[Ben]

That's really nice.

[Ronnie]

Oh, my God.

[Ben]

This Luke. And Jen is, like, overhearing, and she's like, what the is wrong? Like, with them? Like, after everything that Luke did, you're really gonna, like, text with him? Like, and she's right, by the way. So now they all get in the vans, and Asia is like, so what did you and Kwoopy talk about? This is like her episode of Doing that with all the damn. She's like, nicey, waifey, coopy, whoopy, Sandy, Wendy, Jenny, Wanny.

[Ronnie]

And Cat's like, it's awkward. She's like, oh, no. I knew it's gonna happen. It's a natural progression of Men on a Boat. I'm so sorry. It happened so quickly. Meanwhile, Joy and Cooper talking in the other van, and she asked him, how's your love life? He's like, since the beginning, I've been wanting to take this slow. Man said, it's like, do not break her heart, okay? Otherwise, I will break your face. Don't make somebody over.

[Ben]

Op.

[Ronnie]

Do not make somebody up. Like, don't, like, bring somebody up and then be like, oh, my God, look, he found love. And then start ignoring them and treating them like, wow, wow. Why are you acting like a crazy person? What? A little.

[Ben]

Yeah. So now they go to Club Reveling, and they're dancing, drinking, having fun, and Cooper is just, like, dancing with some women. And Joe is like, oh, have you seen how handsome this man is? He's the naughtiest man in Croatia. Oh. And she's like, well, I'm the naughtiest woman in Sweden. And it's like, again, Joe is Joan. Joe. Joe's a.

[Ronnie]

Because Nathan, he's like, the devil Temptation. Come dance with the girls. Don't you want to talk to some girls?

[Ben]

Yeah. So he's talking. So then he's like, cooper's now dancing with. With. With this, the Swedish lady. And Cat's like, he's becoming a player. I'm like, not here for that. Like, two weeks ago, he was a Southern gentleman, and now he's like, Prince Hunsing me. I'm like, I think the. I think the fallacy here is I think the Southern gentleman, like, he still is the Southern gentleman. And that's. And the problem is that your definition of Southern gentleman is flawed because her definition of Southern gentleman is a man who is polite and chivalrous and, you know, puts the lady first. I was like, unfortunately, what we have learned is that the Southern gentleman acts like that but behaves like this. And that is the true definition of the Southern gentleman that we've seen on Bravo.

[Ronnie]

Yeah, for sure. The brav. So Kaylee and Joe were at the bar, and Joe pulls his. Normally. His normal Joe. Here he comes. Anybody who fell for this? So Joe's like, well, you know, when I'm in this environment, I want to go say hello to that the. To the ladies. And she's like, I'm the same. She's like, so I'm going to go do a test. I'm going to go say hello. She's like, why are you testing me? I don't need to be tested. He's like, well, I'm going to go say hello then. And then he goes off. He's like, ladies. And he goes to them. And she's like, whatever.

[Ben]

What an awkward, stupid thing. Like, first of all, why are you saying this to her? Why. Why do you feel compelled to do this or just do it? You Know or just do it. If the whole thing is your.

[Ronnie]

You're.

[Ben]

You're just having fun, no stakes attached, just do it. But, like, the whole thing of, like, I'm gonna test you or I'm gonna. I'm do a test. It's like, it's. It is such an ick. And I was proud of her being, like, why I don't need to be tested. Like, get out of my house.

[Ronnie]

She's only happy if he's making somebody lose it.

[Ben]

Yeah.

[Ronnie]

He purposely does it every single time where it's like, I'm this kind of guy. I'm that kind of guy. And then he. I don't know who he's testing them or himself. I don't know what he's testing for, but he wants somebody to scream and cry over him and get emotional over him. I think that' probably the only way he feels love. Poor Joe.

[Ben]

But also, what is this stupid thing of, like, when I'm in this environment, I just want to say hello. What the Is that about, like, trying to make her.

[Ronnie]

He's trying to get some reaction out of her. It's too easy with her being like, do whatever you want, and I'm not gonna get jealous. And he acts like he wants that, but then he gets that, and he's like, oh, my God, does this person even like me? Like, they're not even.

[Ben]

Yeah.

[Ronnie]

You know, off. Yeah, he needs.

[Ben]

Otherwise, he would just go and say hello to people we've seen in the past. He has no qualms about doing this. The fact that he has to actually go over to her and announce it, like, hey, look at me. Look at me. I'm talking to other girls. I'm flirting with other girls. And she's like, okay, well, also, he

[Ronnie]

was just dancing with girls, and she didn't care. So he's like, oh, so look, now I'm gonna go now. Let me narrate to you that I'm you over right in front of your face, you know?

[Ben]

Yeah.

[Ronnie]

Will you be upset? She's like, whatever. Go ahead.

[Ben]

So Kelly is like. She's like, where's this even coming from? We were having kind of having our own fun. I never really showed any signs of. Of me wanting more of our relationship. I thought we were kind of friends first, and that's not really how you treat a friend.

[Ronnie]

Yeah. So he goes over to say hello to the randos, and then Cooper comes back to the table, and Cat just walks away from him. And she goes outside and calls her friend. She's like, oh, my God, this guy is playing this out of me. And the friend's like, oh, my God, don't cry. No.

[Ben]

Yeah. I'm like, no. And, you know, I also felt bad because when, like, I think this was when she's watching Cooper dancing with the girls and everything. And Asia's like, oh, I'm sorry. It's like, you know when you hear. You know when you're like, you're paranoid about something, like, oh, my God, he hasn't texted me back. I think he's like, I think he's over me. I think. Think he's ghosting me. And your friends say, relax, it's only been 12 hours. You don't know. Like, he could be busy. There's a reason why he hasn't texted you back. But when your friends say, I'm sorry, you're like, oh, you're not even giving me. You're not even telling me to. To like. To, like, keep my chin up or to think positively. You're actually agreeing. You're like, yeah, it's bad. Because Asia's like, I'm sorry, oni. I was like, oh, man, that sucks for cats that, like, it's blatantly obvious to everyone that Cooper is now moving on.

[Ronnie]

Yeah, because we just saw him acting like this before when she was getting upset at the last night out that they were at because he was talking to the people at the bar, and then he. She's like, we're going outside to talk. And then it starts raining, and then everybody's out there watching them and cheering. And the, you know, waiter brings over an umbrella, and it's like, okay, we're on a movie set. So then he's tried to play it up for the audience and be like, we're okay. Everything's great over here. And then he immediately starts acting like that again.

[Ben]

So, yeah, I think he saw all

[Ronnie]

that and was like, yeah, this guy's clearly. Yeah, she's like, again, it's just. It's a below deck guy. So Asia knows it's a below deck guy.

[Ben]

And honestly, you can tell that this girl cat is a real sweetheart, because I think for the first time ever, maybe on any Bravo show, she's in her confessional, she's crying. She's literally crying, and she's like, oh, like, he played the. Out of me. It's just. I feel like we've seen this happen millions of times on millions of confessionals, and for the first time ever, we hear the producer say, I'm sorry, honey. Like an actual empathetic sympathetic moment from a producer. I was like, this is bad. Okay? Now I'm really mad at Coop because obviously this girl is so sweet enough that the producer are, are like feeling bad for her, okay? And they're not humiliating her, they're just showing like, look at this poor sweet girl, like one of the sweetest girls we've ever had on this show. And this guy who acts like he is a southern gentleman or whatever is just breaking her heart.

[Ronnie]

Yeah. So now Jenny, you know, even dummies can do good sometimes. So she's with Coupe and she's like, look, she's my bestie on this boat. And as much as she wants to be chill with everything, she's not. And she likes you video. And he's like, well, look, at the end of the day, you get daddy for daddy. And I don't want Cat to hurt, okay? I'll have that conversation with her tomorrow. Okay? But she's upset right now. So. See this guy? This guy.

[Ben]

And he won't even really have that conversation, by the way.

[Ronnie]

No.

[Ben]

So, yeah, Cat's just like really embarrassed. That's ultimately what it is. She's embarrassed. She feels tricked. And I think the thing is also, like, there was no. Nothing makes sense about it. Everything was fun and cute and nice and then all of a sudden just not anymore. Like. And she has, she has, she has no idea why and. And like, it's really, it's alarming and

[Ronnie]

so it's not the first time he's done this though. And that's what's so frustrating because we know, because we've been through it for years, you know, or we've had more experiences and stuff, but like seeing someone so young just falling for this over and over again with someone like that because then he turns on the charm. It's like last time he ignored her and then he turn the charm and now he's doing it again and then he's going to turn on the charm again. You just keep getting on the ride, you know, get off the ride.

[Ben]

Yeah, I, I think, yeah, it's. He's a dick. So. I mean, of the dicks we've encountered on this show, he's a nicer dick, but he's still a dick, unfortunately. And it's sad because it's hard to feel like maybe he wouldn't be like all the other below deck guys, but the odds were stacked against him. He's a below deck guy and he's from Charleston. There's just no way. He's not, not Going to be like this. So meanwhile, Kaylee basically tells Joe, yeah, guess what? You're not getting anything from me tonight. Because I didn't like what you said, so bye. Which I liked that from her.

[Ronnie]

Well, I love this because she goes, are you okay? You seem desperate. He goes, it was a test and you passed. And she's like, oh, yeah, go to sleep. You're not getting any tonight, buddy.

[Ben]

I'm so surprised with Kaylee because she came onto the season being very, very, like, like, very positive. And like, oh, I just love. I love happiness. I love being happy. I love being enthusiastic. And I thought she was going to be sort of like a. The type that would sort of fall into Joe's clutches and be like, I just love him with. You know, like, I thought she'd be, you know, optimistic about building a relationship with him. Like, she just rushes into relationships all happy, whatever. I was not expecting her to be very, like, clinical. Not clinical, but cut and dry about, you know, having hookups. I was. I. I'm totally shocked and delightfully so.

[Ronnie]

Yeah, I think she's great. And also just being like, okay, saying you can do whatever you want doesn't mean, like, go out of your way to be an. And hurt my feelings. Like, that's just weird, you know?

[Ben]

Yeah.

[Ronnie]

Like, if you're attracted to somebody else, be attracted to somebody else. But, like, you're purposely going out of your way to hurt me for. To get kicks and then being like, oh, you passed off. Yeah, I'm passing on this opportunity. Okay, thank you very much. So Asia is texting Nathan again, and he says he's happy to be with the baby. And Sandy comes in and she's dressed like a pirate. She comes to Asia's cabin and she's like, hey, it's me, Captain Sandy. Argh. We're gonna do something wacky. I'm gonna have you dress like a pirate because we're gonna tell everybody they're going on a pirate ship tomorrow.

[Ben]

And she's like, oh, I love this Sandy. Wendy is great. So then they go door to door, dresses, pirates, waking everyone up, and it's gonna be wacky.

[Ronnie]

Big day.

[Ben]

So they go to this pirate ship, and Asia's like, so cute. Coopee, how are you going? He's like, I'm good, you know, I'm coming back to life. It was a great night, though. Had a lot of fun, you know, it was great. I'm gotta have a conversation later. It's like, you should. I feel like you're freaked out and pulled back don't do that. Just be communicative. He's like, got it. Keep it all bottled up in the inside and not really say anything about it. Okay. Over and out.

[Ronnie]

I just feel surprised how he's evolving. I thought he was this nice, my Southern boy. And I don't know if it's because Joe's may be rubbing off on him, literally, figuratively, or if this was just him all along, but he'd better make it right. Cat's wonderful. So Joe and Kaylee are talking elsewhere, and he's like, kaylee, I made a mistake, didn't I? When I went up to you and I said, I'm gonna go speak to other girls. Oh.

[Ben]

And she's like, you're gonna get upset about that.

[Ronnie]

That. Go ahead.

[Ben]

She's like, well, you know, I didn't care that you did it, but I cared more as, like, a friend. Like, I felt like, maybe you don't need to do that in front of my face. Like, if I was making that with a guy, maybe that wouldn't be very nice to you. But to be honest, I can't be bothered to have fights. I think we should really just, like, pause, please.

[Ronnie]

Young. We're having fun. Let's just see what happens.

[Ben]

You're saying pause on the fight or pause on the hookups? I seem to hook up.

[Ronnie]

I don't know. Yeah, that's what I thought, too. But yeah, now that I think about it, maybe she just meant, like, yeah, I'm not gonna fight with you. Because he's like, huh? We're gonna have a talk. She's like, yeah, I can't be bothered to fight with you. Sorry. Not important enough to fight with eyebrows. Okay.

[Ben]

Yeah. So then Coop sits next to Cat, and Cat's like, how was your night? And she's like, it was good. I had a good night, too. Didn't seem like it. Well, it was awkward. Well, there were definitely some animosities coming towards me by the end of the night. See, like, I hate that. Like, you know, the animosity started with you while you ignored her and you were being cold to her. That's the animosity. Don't make it seem like it was coming towards you. Like, you're. You're the victim here.

[Ronnie]

Yeah, I had some things to get off my chest. And then he just walks away. And she's like, no. Didn't he say something here where he's like, yeah, so we're just like. Like, so that's that?

[Ben]

Or, like, let's just.

[Ronnie]

Or something.

[Ben]

Oh, that's the second version of the conversation.

[Ronnie]

Oh, okay. So he just walks off and she's like, Jen comes over and sits with Cat. And Jen's like, was it good? And she's like, no. What the is happening? Like, what the hell?

[Ben]

And so, so coupe. Then he like, he just goes over to Joy and starts talking to Joy. And, and so then Joy's like, I don't know why you don't want to mar.

[Ronnie]

She has everything.

[Ben]

And he's like, yeah, she's a good person. Yeah. So then they, they arrive at this beach club.

[Ronnie]

Meanwhile they can't even get away from each other cuz they're on this tiny pirate boat. So they keep like switching to have conversations and everybody can just see each other on this pirate, you know, kind of hear each other on this pirate. This show.

[Ben]

Yeah. And so they're at the, they're at the beach club, they're partying. Luke sends a video to Joy and he's like, salute, Joy. That's me working on my French. Hope you're having a wonderful day. Wonderful. End of charter. Let me know how you are. I'd love to hear from you. Ciao. Oh, I apologize. Au revoir, French.

[Ronnie]

Hey, Chevy, Old cheese. Tiddly. Can they all give a big cheers to Luke? And Jen's like, I do not want to hear that name again. Like, I want to have a good day, please. Why are they talking about Luke now? Jesus.

[Ben]

And Joe's like, well, Luke, he's a good, he's a nice guy. Regardless of what happened. It's sad to see him leave, but he's missed. She's like, g. I actually thought this was disrespectful. Quite frankly. Jen is a monster. But I. Luke. Luke was, was mean to her. I'm sorry. Luke was a dick to her. And Luke was like the, like, she's absolutely right when she says in like two seconds, you know, like Luke was the one who literally came on his boss's sheets and played two girls on the same boat. Why are we celebrating? This guy? And I 100% agree. I think this was like obnoxious. It makes her feel really uneasy. They all know what he did to her and, and they're like, oh, but he's a good guy. He's a good guy. It's like, oh, boys will be boys. I thought it was actually really obnoxious.

[Ronnie]

Well, unfortunately, Jen's not a nice person and everybody knows it. So, you know, I don't think anybody's just not nice. So I don't think that anybody's. And also remember the night when it ended with Luke and she was like, I'm gonna have a talk over here. And then she kept calling people. She called like four different people to chat during the dinner. I mean, she's just. I. She's just so much drama and she's so obnoxious and clearly acting like a narcissist, you know, that nobody cares. And Luke was nice. And then Luke did his and was like, but I'm so sorry. And then he gets puppy dog eyes and all of that stuff. Jen's just never going to get the response she wants from people because she's not good to people.

[Ben]

Yeah.

[Ronnie]

Luke was an.

[Ben]

But, but, but she has no social capital on this boat, so no one cares if she's unhappy, you know?

[Ronnie]

And it was also. It was also like, oh, she likes him. Well, I'm not gonna have a love triangle, so I'm gonna go interrupt them and get him first. You know, that whole thing was. She was acting like an. In that triangle as well. So I don't think anybody's gonna feel for Jen.

[Ben]

Yeah. But I just still also think that like. Like, I think Luke was a. And I don't maybe. They must have really. There must have been a side of Luke that they all saw and they really enjoyed because the fact that Joy is still texting with him. They're all raising their glass to Luke. You know, we did see in the first episode or two. He has like a goofy side that was kind of funny. And there must be something because I just feel like, like, why does Luke get this, like, heroic edit, you know, like edit not on the show, but like amongst these people in their minds. I'm like, it just feels. It feels weird. Feels privileged.

[Ronnie]

I don't know. I don't. Heroic. I think it's just that he keeps calling. Like, he's still around and he keeps calling. Usually they're just gone. You know how below deck people are. It's like once you're on there, they're like a. A brotherhood or a sisterhood or whatever. A fraternity.

[Ben]

Yeah.

[Ronnie]

You know what I'm trying to say? So maybe it's just that because he's always calling, he's still there.

[Ben]

I know. Seriously.

[Ronnie]

So he also apologizes and stuff, which Jen doesn't really do well.

[Ben]

But it's all. It's all insincere.

[Ronnie]

Yeah, exactly.

[Ben]

Yeah.

[Ronnie]

But it's like you're. You've got one who is, like, really apologetic and really performative. Like, I'm a good person, and then you just have an. Who's an so yeah, one making an effort's gonna win.

[Ben]

You know, Coop is like. He asked Asia if he should check on Jen, and she's like, that's probably a good idea. Which is also shows that Asia does not like Jen because Asia does not go after her. So Jen's like, I ask everyone respectly for my own mental health. Let's not talk about Luke. And he's somehow. Like, he's somehow screwed Joy over. I don't know why the she's still talking to him. It's like, yeah, I'm sorry you feel like that. Anytime you need anything, I'm a southern gentleman again. She's like, thank you. I really appreciate that. Yeah, Jen's definitely a little harsh, but at the end of the day, you get daddy for daddy, and I feel like we're all a team, so I do want to be there to support her, just as I want there to be support for everyone except for Cat. She has too much, too much pressure to support her so we can have just one big happy family.

[Ronnie]

Yeah. So then Joe asked Kaylee about her and Jen, and she. He's like, is Jen still mad at you? And she's like, oh, yeah. You know, I'm realizing how immature she is. I wasn't crazy cunning for second. I mean, she was obviously. And I think this all just stems from that. I mean, she wants more, you know, it just didn't work out. And she's, like, upset, and Jen's just kind of there lingering around them. She, like, walks up and Kaylee doesn't stop talking. She finishes her sentence, and it's just like, yeah, this.

[Ben]

So now Asia is like, cooper, I think that you should get your convo wand over with Cat. Okay? So, like, yeah, okay, I can handle it. Doesn't need to be an operation. I'll get it done. Meanwhile, over on the yacht, Sandy gets it. She's like, oh, I got a text from Non Norma. Maybe she was really weirded out after our last conversation. When I started, I. I inhabited her body, and then just. She wound up texting herself. That was so weird when that happened. But look, it's from a Bravo deckhand. A bravado deckhand saying, captain, I can come.

[Ronnie]

Whoa.

[Ben]

Finally.

[Ronnie]

Yes.

[Ben]

Got a deckhand.

[Ronnie]

Somersault. Somersault. Eggplant. Eggplant. Somersault. God, I wonder who this could be. So she makes a call to the mystery man, and she's like, thank God. I don't think anybody has ever said that. When they found out that Max has been put on their stuff. I think this is the first time. So congrats to him.

[Ben]

No, I'm so upset that they're bringing Max back for a third time. Like, I cannot stand this guy. I don't. I just don't. I personally don't think he's good tv. I think he's just Ann, you know, it's not like Ellie, who they bring back, and she is. She could be like an absolute monster, but she's just like deeply entertaining. Max is just annoying. He's like an annoying man child. Like a 13 year old child bouncing off the walls who needs to be put into a shot collar. So everyone is changing for dinner and. But they.

[Ronnie]

And the point is that they bring him back to trigger Nathan, but Nathan's not there. So, I mean, I guess I see what they're doing. They're like, let's see if we can make Joe just as crazy. It's like, be careful what you wish for kind of thing. Like, okay, yeah, now you're in charge, but you've got Max.

[Ben]

So, Coop, it's like, okay, time to have this conversation with Cat. We're gonna, you know, get on the same wavelength and we're gonna work well. I'm gonna let her know how I feel. He goes, so should we go ahead and just do this? Which is a great way to start a sensitive conversation. And she's like, right here. She's like, yeah, why not? Hey, let's just be friends and vibe and like, that's all that needs, right? Let's just have a great freaking time. Okay? Let's just be besties. Okay, great. See you later.

[Ronnie]

Oh, my gosh. And everyone's showing up as he says that. And she's like, oh, she's telling us, is that a breakup? And the producer asked Cooper, so are you feeling like you're on the same page now? And he's like, yeah, we're pretty much on the same page without the page being announced. But I feel like it doesn't need to be talked about.

[Ben]

We're good.

[Ronnie]

Let's just move on.

[Ben]

Who? Oh, great. She's like, what was that? That was awful. So now they go to dinner and coup is he's tired and Kaylee's like, you're being honest and good to my girl, right? He's like, 100%. I said, I'm out of 5,000. Right? And cat. Then Cat and Jen are on the other end of the table. And Cat's like, do you want to know what Our chat was. He goes, let's have our chat. So we're good? Yeah. And we're like, like, so done. Like, I'm never lowering my standards because I think I'm valuable. I wish Cat had remembered that she had said this by the end of the episode.

[Ronnie]

I know. I wish she stuck with that. So it's just like, okay, this energy is really weird tonight. Much awkward energy. So then she gets a maraca and then things are never the same. Isn't this where she gets her little maraca thing?

[Ben]

Yeah, she starts shaking this maraca and she shakes it for the rest of the episode and it is so annoying. I, I like, she's really just shaking it non stop. She's just in bed alone, just shaking. It's like a fidget spinner for her. It's.

[Ronnie]

She woke up. It's the max of props. Like, put it down, put it down.

[Ben]

Why did she. Who gave that to her? She's like, well, it's been a long day and the only thing that's been able to break the tension is the baracker as you just start shaking it like crazy on screen. I was like, okay, please don't make this a running gag for episodes.

[Ronnie]

So then we go back to the crew cabins and Asia is still with the maraca and Cat text Coop and she's like, I'm not ending the day like this. He goes, okay, meet on the bio Boson's locker. So now they go hide in that little locker. They shouldn't be allowed to do this. You guys are on a TV show. What the hell are you hiding? Like, people do that to have sex, not to have this conversation.

[Ben]

But I know that's the thing too. It's like, this is. This does not have to be a hidden, hidden from production conversation like this. You guys are literally acting like you're doing something illicit right now. And so he's like, I don't really, really like talking about my emotions, but she does. So I'm here for that if she needs it. But since there is some tension that I think it's best we just part ways. So then she's like, what's been up with you late? What the been up with you lately? And he is like, like, like, you know, all everyone wants to talk about is you and I. I feel like it's just a little eyes on us. She's like, well, how do you think I feel? Okay? And now I just feel stupid, like I did something wrong.

[Ronnie]

And then he pulls out the typical thing. And we already saw Luke do it this season where he was like, do not tell a single soul that this, that we're hooking up. It's the big secret. So he's like, well, I do like you, but hey, look, I've got an idea. Idea. What if we kept doing what we wanted to do but told the rest of the crew we weren't hanging out anymore because then we could have fun and sneak around. Just like sneak smooches. Oh, yeah, so you can make her look crazy the next time you go out and make out with somebody, which you will. And then she gets all upset and be like, see, I told you guys she was crazy. We're not even together.

[Ben]

Yeah, this seems like a great plan. What could possibly go wrong? Because she's like, okay, that's kind of fun. Like, it's like cool. We're like sneaking around. Like, that's actually kind of cool. It's like, no, until you're gonna decide you don't want to sneak around anymore. And you'll be like, why can't I if I like someone, if he likes me and I like him, why can't we hold hands in public, you know, or kiss when we're out at for dinner? Like, this is a manipulation tactic.

[Ronnie]

So he can get what he wants from you and then also get what he wants from anybody else and then make you look insane.

[Ben]

And he said, says he's like, well, when I hang around her, she's, you know, she's beautiful and she's got a great smile and just, she just pulls me back in. Sometimes I feel like I probably shouldn't, but there is still attraction. And it continues to happen, which is his quote unquote Southern gentleman way of saying, I'm not really into her, but she's hot. So I still want to have the option to bang her if I can.

[Ronnie]

100%. Don't ever, ever, ever be with someone who tells you we should keep this a secret. Never. It has never worked out out.

[Ben]

It's bad. It's terrible. So now it's, it's a new day and Kaylee is. Kaylee's decided that she's going to have a talk with Jen because she needs to. She knows that Jen doesn't like her. She doesn't even like Jen that much. But she needs to sort of get that under control. So she's going to.

[Ronnie]

She.

[Ben]

That's her plan for the day. And then Coupe and Cat are, are talking over breakfast and they're. They're all of a sudden being very chummy again. But it's secret. And Cat's like, day one of the secret relationship with Cooper is very heated rivalry. Like, no. Did you watch it is just as boring. It is just as boring. That's for sure.

[Ronnie]

Yeah. But the thing is, it, you know, it's heated rivalry coded, but it's the closeted relationship that the guy has with the movie star are, you know, when he starts dating the starlet or whatever, and she's finally like, yeah, exactly. You're not the main couple. You're the. You're the one that's kind of being over here.

[Ben]

Yeah. The difference between this and heated rivalry is that in heated rivalry, both people like each other. And that's not what's happening here. So Sandy's like, okay, everyone, preference sheet meeting. Okay. Bunny is an economist. I don't know why that was like the funn. Bunny is an economist. Not what I was expecting the first description of Bunny to be. Bunny is an economist, an entrepreneur, and a visionary, launching their new venture, Econ Club. To celebrate, they're taking their closest friends, Jace, Jordan, Judah, Jacoia, and Jacobia's twin, Sequoia. Oh, and Tierra. But they don't talk to Tierra because Tierra doesn't start with a J. And they barely even talk to Sequoia. They only talk to Sequoia because they think it's Jacoa. Really. Only Jay is bit little a loud. And Bunny. So anyway, they're here to honor their success.

[Ronnie]

Bunny demands the best, from gluten free nighttime snacks to vegan cuisine. Oh, Jesus Christ, here we go. They've had it too easy. I think they're like, okay, everybody, it's been pretty easy so far. So here you go. Gluten free and vegan. And everyone else is just as pick, Vicky and fabulous. Oh, no, I've heard that.

[Ben]

I'm gonna say right now, none of them will be fabulous. So Sandy's like, oh, and Joe, guess what? I'm gonna have you as bosa.

[Ronnie]

Whoa.

[Ben]

Is that a. Is that a pencil in your pocket? Are you just happy to see some stripes? Whoa. Here you go, Joey boy.

[Ronnie]

He's like, tmi, but I'm erect. We know. It's the best thing about you, Captain

[Ben]

Sandy support means the world to me. I don't know how long I've got to prove my worth. So I'm gonna take advantage of every minute. I'm gonna hit the ground running like a sprinter. That's what you get with Joel's boson. I'm the jawson, baby. Okay,

[Ronnie]

so Kaylee pulls Jen for a chat, and she's like, you know, I just wanted to have a little chat with you before we go on the next charter. So good at your job, Jin. Good at your job, Jin. That's your nickname right here. Job Jin, Jin, job. You're just so good at it. You care so much, and I'm sorry if I ever made you think that I thought otherwise, because it's just not the case. It's like, yeah, like, I just think, like, a lot of things were not going correctly, and, like, a lot of communicate. Communication was just up, down the drain.

[Ben]

Well, coming into this next charter, I want you to know that I do have your book, but I will make mistakes, and I've made mistakes. She's like, oh, yeah, it's called appetizer plate.

[Ronnie]

Where were they?

[Ben]

I mean, oyster and caviar on a bread plate. I mean, please. Yes. So anyway, so I just, you know, I make mistakes. That's just what happens. And this is my nice way of saying, don't come for me because I'm the one in charge.

[Ronnie]

Okay. She really handled this so well because when. When she was kind of smart with her. Her. She's like, yeah. She's like, yeah, I made so many mistakes. Yeah, Isn't it funny? And it just kind of disarms Jen, you know, she doesn't really know what to do. So she's like, well, I mean, I'm glad she took the initiative to talk to me, but I still don't think she knows what she's doing. So I'm just gonna stay in my light for my charter. Like, I'm. You know, I'm not gonna say, if she was on fire, I would watch her burn, but I definitely wouldn't use my strongest toe

[Ben]

because, like, yeah, famously, that's what Paul says to his mom. You all know that when you sign there doing NDA. So Kaylee's like, we're gonna kill this next shoulder raw. She's like, yeah, we got it. So Sandy's like, okay, I have good news. I have good news. I have a deckhand starting today. Asia and Joe. And he has experience, and both of you know him. You can watch the Odyssey with him. But you have to take off the eye. It's Max. It's Max. Oh.

[Ronnie]

And everyone starts cheering that has nobody watched his show. What are you cheering about? And Joe's like, oh, the man is absolutely off his nut. I mean, he's batshit crazy. I've seen him drive Nathan off the wall. I'd be lying If I didn't say I was a little bit nervous. But I've got it covered.

[Ben]

Yeah. And so Max is like, hello. So annoying. But then the previews for next week, we see that Nathan texts Max and is like, have my back no matter what and I'll make you lead deckhand, which I think is so toxic. Like, Nathan is actually really falling off this year.

[Ronnie]

You know, he's really. He's really gone off the deep end this year. And I get like, he has a new baby, blah, blah, blah. I get mean. He's just. He's been a this whole year. And to see that he's this immature, it's great.

[Ben]

It's basically a wonderful parallel with House of the Dragon, which we will be recapping next. But you see, power corrupts. Power corrupts, paranoia, ego, it all comes in. Gotta watch out.

[Ronnie]

Yeah. All right. Well, everybody, thank you so much for being with us. We will talk to you next time. For Lee Max joining below takes me there. Talk to you next time. Bye. Bye. Bye.

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Yeah.

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[Ronnie]

I mean I just have. It is delicious. Caesar sauce is like a Parmesan garlicky blend with some lemon in it and you can dip anything in there.

[Ben]

One thing I have been known to do is to stop over at McDonald's and go through the drive through and get myself a Caesar snack wrap and just dip some fries in the caesar sauce. Also McCrispy strips in the Caesar sauce sauce. Honestly, try it. It's really good.

[Ronnie]

Listen, I say if you put Caesar sauce on something that automatically makes it better.

[Ben]

Yes.

[Ronnie]

That's really all you need is the Caesar sauce.

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I think I just want to have just a constant supply of Caesar sauce and put it on things at all times.

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