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The Wayback #49 | Shapel Lacey
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This week, Shapel Lacey takes a seat in The Wayback! ("Lesser Known Characters" podcast). In this episode, Shapel takes us back to what it was like growing up in Mesa, Arizona, in the early 90s. He talks about being raised by a teenage...
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I've been getting a lot of questions about when is the Way Back going to be on Patreon, and I'm excited to announce it is finally here. Plus bonus content right now for just $5, you get the Honeydew a day early. You get it ad free and you get a full bonus episode of the Honeydew with y'all where listeners highlight their lowlights and it's going to stay that way. Five bucks. And for just $3 more, you also going to get the Way Back a day early and ad free. But that's not all. You'll get exclusive bonus content with the guests, some fun segments, maybe some games, and we'd love to get you guys involved. And that's all for only $3 more. And there's no censorship on any of the Patreon episodes. Subscribe now. Tampa, Florida. I can't wait to come back to Side Splitters. I'll be there Saturday the December 7th, one night only. Tempe, Arizona. I'll see y'all December 20th and 21st at the Tempe Improv. Get your tickets on my website to all shows@ryan sickler.com.
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Hey baby, we going to be here all day.
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We going to be here all day, baby. I like that kind of party. Welcome back to the Way Back. I'm Ryan Sickler and I'm going to start this episode like I start them all by saying thank you. Thank you for supporting whatever I do. I love this show. I love it. I love you Die Hards out there watching. It's a great one to listen to. But go watch, man. We we're including photos from childhood, their past, my past, all of it. There's a lot of stuff going on. It's a fun, fun show and I'm really glad that you guys are digging it. Come see me on tour if I'm in your town when you're around. Tickets are available at Ryan Sickler. That's it, man. I'm very excited to have this guest here in the Way Back. Ladies and gentlemen, Chappelle Lacy. Welcome to the Way Back.
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Thanks for having me.
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Oh, you're welcome, Chappelle. Plug whatever you'd like, please Podcast listen.
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Lesser known characters with Joel Jimenez and tour dates@chappellec.com so I asked you before.
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I usually start by asking this seat right here, have you ever sat in one of the cuz you're how old? 38.
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No, 37.
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37. So you're a young man. When, when would you have gotten in one of these?
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I Remember? Clearly. So my family, we were poor, right? And we were on, like, Section 8 housing and, like, all, like, the welfare and all that stuff. And, you know, my mom. It was five. It was five kids or whatever. And so whenever we would have to go to, like, doctor's appointments or anything like that, there was, like, this service for poor families that would pick us up.
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Nah, dude.
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And they had us up in this. I remember me and my brother, we sat in the back. We was like, yo, bro, we felt like we were on a spaceship.
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Yeah, man.
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We felt like we was like.
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So it wasn't even the car you.
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Had or how you knew we didn't have no car.
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It was a station wagon pickup service. I had never.
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Yeah, I remember they pulled up out front. I said, how we getting in there? And then. Yeah, literally, we sat in the. Sat in the bat like this. And I remember we were going to, like, our.
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Get on my own guy.
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Yeah, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Damn, Robin, you got a lot of kids. So that's, like, my fondest memory of, like, sitting in the back like that and just, like, enjoy the car.
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Do you remember what kind it was?
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No, I don't. I can't remember the car, but I just remember it was. Yeah, it was the station wagon or whatever. And it was like, you know, I just remember sitting in the back because they had this in the very back.
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Yeah.
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And I just remember. Yeah, in the way. Yeah, the way back. And so I just remember me and my brother being back there, going to our doctor's appointment, get shots or something like that. I don't know. Some. Some crazy. But yeah. Yeah. As soon. As soon as you brought it up, that. That memory immediately popped up.
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So you say your mom. You have. There's five of you? Four siblings.
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Yeah, four siblings.
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Okay.
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Yeah, four of us.
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How many brothers and sisters? What do we have?
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Because my family life's so crazy. I mean, I have a lot. It's a lot. But the initial.
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The initial. Four.
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The initial. Oh, yeah. Three brothers, one sister. Okay, yeah, three brothers, one S. But, like, of all, a lot.
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But growing up back then, it's your nucleus.
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Original nucleus.
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And where are you?
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Arizona. Phoenix.
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All right.
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Phoenix. Oh, like Mesa. Mesa, Arizona.
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You say you're section eight, so you're not taking. So what is a vacation for you guys?
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We a go on vacation right here outside. My daughter all the time. He, like, vacation.
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Did you go to a summer camp at the beach? I said, you know what we did? We went outside.
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No, we didn't have no vacation. It Was so funny. We had this program at my junior high during the summer. Shouts out to Powell junior High. I don't even think it's junior high anymore. But they would do this thing called the paid program. And basically they would take all the bad students to keep them off the street over the summer. And. And they would bring them into this thing called paid program. And basically we got paid to go to summer school and do like. And then also we would do, like, community work. And we would do that throughout the summer. And you get paid for it.
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They paid the bedkins to keep them off the street. You can't be mad at that.
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It was at Powell junior High. My junior high's not a junior high anymore. Cause it just had no money.
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They got gifted a talent. So now there it is after 39 years.
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So. So they did shut it down. So now it's like a. I think it's a place where you can go and get your ged. I think that's what it is. Like, so it's still for the kids.
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In that lane, you know?
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Still in that lane. Dude, my school was terrible, bro. We had. We had a bad school, bro. You know what's so funny? Off the street. That's got me thinking, dude, so what was funny? So junior high for us was seventh through ninth, right? So high school was 10, 11, 12. So I remember my last year of junior high. My principal came up to me and he said. He said it was the first semester. He goes, I'll let you go right now. I go, what? He goes, I'll let you graduate right now. He goes, we can finish it right now. You get a long summer. Because he wanted me out that bad because of how bad of a kid I was like. He goes, we'll make it happen. I'll make sure you get an A in every class. He goes, but just do not come back. And I was like, I can't do that.
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You had that pass.
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No, I couldn't because, you know, I was. I was petty. You know what I mean? I was like, nah, you ain't gonna give me like that. Mr. Heath, you know, shouts out Mr. Heath. But, yeah, it was. It was pretty funny, though, that. That was like the thing he came and said. I was just. I was a wrecking ball, man. Like I said, I was class comedian there.
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Yeah, you were telling me.
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Yeah. Oh, my. You found it. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. There's a photo.
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Look at that.
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Look at that class, bro. Look at this. So anyways, but yeah, that was. That's what I Look like in junior high. But it's funny because it does kind of look like a mug shot in a weird way.
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Yeah, I was gonna say what's behind you, it almost does look like it's hype, right? When you quickly look at that, it definitely looks like a mug shot.
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Bro. What am I upset about? Am I upset? Like, what am I? But, yeah, it said I enjoy making people laugh. Anyways, yeah. Chappelle Harris is my real last name, because my stepdad, his last name is Harrison. When I was born, he was at my birth, he gave me the last name Harris.
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Your stepdad was at your birth?
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Yeah, he been in my life since. He been in my life since I've been alive, bro. I came out having to hang out with that dude.
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So what kind of stuff is he doing back in the day with your kids?
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Not working, I tell you that much. I knew that much. You think I didn't know that? Jerry? He just had multiple uniforms in the closet. I was like, bro, you do not.
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You're always around how you a security.
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And a CEO, you know, Just trying to make it vibe, bro, knowing I. We lived in that tiny apartment. But now my stepdad's cool, though. But, yeah, he was, you know what? You know, interesting enough. Even though, like, it was very hectic with my stepfather. Like, it was a lot of, like, bad shit. I mean, he's. You know, I give my stepdad the benefit of the doubt because he was 17 years old.
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What?
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Yeah.
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Oh, he's a kid.
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He's a kid. So put it this way. When I was born, my stepdad only been 17 for, like, a couple weeks. God. So he was 16.
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He just got his license.
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Yeah, he was 16 in my. When I was in my mom's belly, you know what I'm saying? So I give him the benefit of the doubt. Yeah, he was crazy.
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What stuff he's doing with you as kids. Is he taking you places?
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Well, he tried introducing you to. He was able to. Yeah, he would take us to the movies. I remember he took us to see Don't Be a Menace in the theater. Nah. Did he? Yep. He straight up did. Yep. Yeah, we saw, like, the craziest shit in the movie theaters, but he would just take us, you know, which is kind of funny when you think about it now, you know, taking kids to see Dopey and Menace. Because that movie is pretty crazy, you know? And he had, like, weird talents, you know, like, he was a really good cook, you know, oddly enough, which I was like, I ain't never Mad about that, bro. That man could take a bologna sandwich and make that shit. Yo, what he could do.
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Give me some of his recipes.
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Jerry could do with a bologna sandwich, bro. And he's got bomb potato salad. I remember that, bro. I'm telling you, Jerry could cook. He could, like, get down. He still can. What else did he make that was so good, bro? You know, he would take, like, those.
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Like, who cooked better real quick, Jerry or Mom?
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Jerry did. And my mom would admit that. My mom would admit that in a heartbeat. Yeah. Cause Jerry was, like, the chef, you know, if he applied that, he'd probably be, like, a dope chef right now. Because, bro, you know, like, you probably ate this as a kid, where they would take the hot dogs, cut them up, and then put them in, like, the ramen noodles and shit like that.
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No, not put them in baked beans.
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On baked beans. Okay, that too. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So Jerry, like, he. I don't know. The way he would make it taste is if we were. I'm like, are we at a restaurant right now? You know what I mean? Like, he was that good. Also, he was really good at basketball, which was funny. You know what I mean? Cause he's like, five, six. It was so funny that he was really. Brooke had dropped threes like it was nothing. I'm like, bro, he would go out there and play on the courts. I remember we'd watch him as kids, me and my brother, you know? But I hated him so much that I hated, like, watching him be good at basketball and just run the court. You know what I mean? And then also, he could break dance.
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Nuh. I Forget.
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He's only 16.
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He's in your life. Jerry's break dance.
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Was he good? Dude, was he good? It was like, I remember when he busted it out, like, out of nowhere, and I was like, where'd this come? Cause so I had this radio that, like, in the living room. Well, it was theirs. It was my folks. And my biggest thing was music, you know, like, from the time from when I discovered, like, my earliest memory. Earliest. Earliest memory is watching Bobby Brown's Every Little Thing. I think I'm watching that music video. Yep, that was my. Like, my earliest memory was seeing that music video, you know? So I was always fascinated by music. And, you know, I would listen a lot of, like. You know, my stepdad was really into, like, west coast hip hop, but he was also into, like, like, all that old, like, zapping Roger, you know, funk and, like, you know, like, more bounce to the end, like, that kind of stuff. And so I would hear that stuff, and I thought it was so dope. And one day, out of nowhere, you know, he had this CD that I would listen to, this, like, funk cd. And then out of nowhere, he just started, you know, I'm listening to the Living Room, and he was. He was like, what are you doing? I was like, oh, I'm just bumping. I like this. I like this CD or whatever. And then out of nowhere, he just started going, you know? Just started. Yeah, and then just started. Like.
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You never seen it before?
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Never seen it. Did not know that was in him. Because Jerry, like, ever since I've known. Describe Jerry.
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What's he look like?
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He's. He's black. He's black and Mexican, but he looks a little bit more Mexican. No, no, he ain't five, seven.
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That's right. You said he's little.
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You know, which. Which I think about it now with Jerry being like, is he jacked? No, he's not. He's not jacked. You know, I think about it now with Jerry, like, being like, you know, like, you know, being like, you know, abusive or whatever. I'm like, bro, you've been five, six this whole time. I'm like, man, what? Let's run it. I was like, let's run it. Let's run it.
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Come on, man.
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Come on, Cletus. You know, clean, you know, but that was, like, one thing about it. Like, he, like, I remember, and he's a bigger. He was a bigger guy, too, you know, but he was just. He just, out of nowhere, just. Just started busting these moves out to where I was like, yo. And I was like, you know, when I think about it yet, like, yeah, my life was crazy with him, but, like, there was times, like, you know, like, I was able to, like, smile at shit. And that was, like, a cool thing about him, you know? And I think he was just, you know, like I said, he was a young guy, you know, trying to.
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He's a kid.
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He was a kid, you know, trying to take care of kids. You know what I mean? So I always give him, like, you know, people want me to hate him, but I'm like, nah, you can. Nah, fuck you on that. Like, that's my stepdad. That's my stepdad. And I will say that. You know what I mean? I'm cool with saying that. I'm like, that man has been in my life since day one. Since day one. I know we had what we had or whatever, but that is not our life today. And you Know, I just hate living life like that. You know what I mean? But also. So Jerry set a foundation for a lot of things that I really got into, like music, also martial art films. So Jerry used to watch, like, the old Shaolin movies, right? And I remember I thought those were, like, the coolest movies ever. And that's how I started doing backflips.
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Is that right?
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Yep.
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You were the kid that could do backflips.
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Yes. Yeah, I taught myself at, like, five. Yeah. Remember that TV show Kung Fu?
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I was gonna say I would watch the David Carradine Kung Fu.
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Yeah.
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But then also there was also Kung Fu, like Masterpiece. There was Kung. It was Saturdays. Yeah. When we would catch Bruce Lee, Fist of Fury, things like that.
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Yes. So. So my stepdad, like, he was into two things. He was into sci fi and he was into, like, those martial art films. So, like, you know, I give him credit to like me, like, liking. I'll watch any martial art film, even if it's, like, corny, because I tell you one thing about those films. The fighting's always going to be badass. Yep, always going to be badass.
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Choreography sick.
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Yeah, always.
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So it's funny because I remember you now that I look back, you know exactly when a boy discovers kung fu movies. Because as soon as I went over my neighbor's house, he had nunchucks and throwing stars.
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Let's run it. Let's run it.
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There they are, man.
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Yo, right.
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Nose around in your friend's room, just hitting yourself in the face. And, yo, look at those.
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You have a pair that I feel like having a little display.
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I got some padded ones.
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Those padded ones. So those were the ones that everyone had. I remember everybody having those, like, padded because they're like the rubber like or whatever, like, kind of. Kind of style. But, yeah, those were the ones that everyone.
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We all wanted the Bruce Lee little slip ons.
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Dude. I remember when I just had. I just had Went to a new school, Roosevelt Elementary School. Right. I just transferred schools. And I remember I told, you know, I didn't have no friends or nothing. And I told. I remember telling these kids, like, I was like, yeah, I know karate. I was like, yeah, I know how to fight. I'm, you know, well known in the. In the, you know, the karate world. And they were. And some. Some dude was like, man, you don't know no karate and shit. And this dude was a boxer. He goes, I box, bro. You really can you. Can you do karate? I was like, yeah. He goes, all right, let's go. In the bathroom and see what you got. I was like, all right. I was terrified, okay? Because I was like, oh, shit, Now I gotta put this shit to test. But I remember walking in like, I was a kung fu master, right? So I walked in with my hands down like this.
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How old are you? Nah.
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How old are you walking? This was fifth grade. So I walked in, like, looked around at everybody, you know, and I even bowed to him. I'll tell you, I was such a dork for this shit. And I remember he put his fist up and he came. I remember he came at me, right? And he just started throwing these, like, you know, right, left, right, right, left. And I was. And what's crazy, Ryan, is I literally was like, I blocked every thing, and then I hit him with the boom. And he flew back. And everyone was like, yo. And I'm sitting here like, how the fuck did I do that? It was crazy. I remember shouts out to Gabriel Alvarado or something like that.
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And then they were like, all right, he know.
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He was like, he knows. And then they see me do the backflips because I already knew how to do bad.
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So they really.
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You got to realize, I convinced my. These kids at my school that I knew karate.
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He's a black belt. He don't know one thing.
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Is this. Is this the Chappelle Walker? Oh, look at that guy. That's me. That's me right there.
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That is hilarious.
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Yup. That was a kid that was doing backflips. I taught myself early. Look at the. That was. Dude. So that was a period of time. This is 90s. That was a period of time where you only got one side pierced. Remember that?
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Wait, hold on. How old are you here with an ear pierced?
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Shit, I got my ears pierced. I think before I got into school. Oh, yeah. That's when I thought I was Barry Bonds.
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Oh, yeah, with the car.
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Remember Barry Bonds? If you swipe next. Look at that. Remember? He would rock that.
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I sure do.
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Yes.
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Yup.
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Bruh. I thought I was a gee, but I was such a lone wolf as a kid. Like, I loved Little House on the Prairie. I loved Mama's Family.
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Oh, we're gonna pause right there.
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What I love people don't do Mama's. Mama's.
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Mama's Family was phenomenal.
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She Vicki Lawrence. Oh, was goaded for this.
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No doubt. One goaded for the funniest sitcoms ever. So you got Vicki Lawrence in here. You got rude. Look, Betty White. Look at all the people that came out of this show. So great.
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First of all, so this show, to me was like my earliest memories of, like, comedy. Carol Burnett was her show. The Carol Burnett show was before Mama's Family, which I think this might have been a spin off character from the Carol Burnett Show. But anyway, so, like, this was like, so my mom loved this show.
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So funny.
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And so anytime it came on, you know. Cause that was like the time I would see my mom, like, smile and laugh a lot. Like my mom loves I Love Lucy. She loved Mama's Family. She loved.
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She was sarcastic.
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Yeah. Oh, my God. And the fact that she was like. I love the fact that she was, like, mean, but it was like, funny. Yeah. So the thing is, so because I'm aggressive guy, I found this way to make my anger funny. Right. And you know, a lot of it is like the foundation from, like watching like, Mama's Family. Also, Bernie Mac, one of my favorites.
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Yes.
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He was really good at bringing, like, anger and making it so funny. And that's how I was able to like, find myself as a comedian because of, like, you know, stuff like that. But I just love the fact that.
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She was just like, she was so, such a funny.
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It was so, so funny. Man, we will watch everything, man.
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Our TV shows, our sitcoms were the Jeffersons.
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Yep.
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Oh, Sanford and Son.
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Sanford and Son.
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What's happening.
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Yep. Which is. Which is another thing. Sanford and Son and the Jeffersons. Another angry characters.
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Both. And then George Jefferson. Angry slamming doors. Fred, Sam, Pop will give you two. Cross your lip. All in the Family on the Family was another like. And the Jeffersons were a spin off of all in the Family because they were neighbors. George Jefferson was his black neighbor.
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Yes.
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And they gave him the spin off for the Jeffersons. Damn. Good Times was another huge one that was non stop.
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Good Times was Different Strokes. Different strokes, I gotta say.
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Like, it's interesting, they talk about diversity and all this stuff these days and inclusion, but now that I'm thinking about it growing up, it was already there. It was there. It was Different Strokes was already there. Sanford and Son. You had the Latin guys, the Mexican dudes coming in and stuff.
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Yes.
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You had Mama's Family with the. You had elderly. The Jeffersons, where he was honky non stop.
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What was. You know what else had a diverse. Welcome Back Carter.
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Oh, yeah. Welcome Back Carter. Let's see Captain Kangaroo. Did you know Captain Kangaroo?
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I didn't know Captain Kangaroo.
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Bring him up. This guy, Captain Kangaroo, he was like the morning.
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You know about him, Kirsten?
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No, you don't know about Captain Kangaroo? Read about Him. He Was is an American children's television series that aired weekly mornings on. What does it say? CBS for 29 years.
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29 years.
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He was like. He was like the big morning dude. Wow, look at that haircut, bro. Captain Kangaroo.
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Wow. What's so funny? I was like, is this guy British Bugs?
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And Popeye. Gilligan's Island. Forgot about that. Lucy. Mary Tyler Moore, of course. Partridge, Family, Street. All these Romper Room. Do you remember Romper Room? Kirsten, you remember Romper Room? Now, let me see if I can get this right. We'll watch a video. This lady, I think she used to put the mirror up and she would go, romper, Bomper, stomper, boo. I forget what the rest of the line was. And then she would say, I see Chappelle. And then the camera would come in on the key.
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Really?
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I see Kirsten. And it would zoom in on her.
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So it was like this kids show.
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It's a kid's show. It was super popular.
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Hit.
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That bad boy. Let's see what she says.
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Romper, Bumper, Stomper, Boo.
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Tell me, tell me, tell me do Magic mirror.
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Tell me today. Did all my friends have fun at play? All my friends had fun today. I see David's having a special day today. And Olivia Joy had a special day on Sunday. So I gotta bring up one of my favorite movies, Stir Crazy.
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Oh, Gene Wilder is.
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B
Come on.
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I mean, Richard Pryor is my favorite of all time.
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B
Yeah, of course.
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But if you've never seen this movie, they get framed as bank robbers. And when they go to prison. Yo, Chappelle. When he rides that bull.
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B
Oh, yeah.
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That's the thing about Gene Wilder is. And. And Will Ferrell's very much like this. He embraces whatever it is. He's leaning into it and having a hell of a time. And when he rides that bull and it. It's like there's. Got it sped up, like it's broken. He's first gets on backwards. He's like, son, you wanna turn around?
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Yeah.
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He does the laugh like, I'm so silly. And then he just loves it. He loves prison.
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You know what it is? This is why I love it so much, is because it's one of those movies that's so goofy, yet so logical. It, like, makes it, like, fun. Like. Like. Because some. Sometimes you could overdo a character or whatever, but, like, the characters were so goofy. Like when they're walking. When they're initially walking into jail and Richard Pryor's, like, trying to tell them.
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Yeah, G. Wilder's Way over doing it.
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Yeah.
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But also you notice the beautiful things like right here in in the cell when he smacks the big dude's head.
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Oh my God.
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And Richard Pryor goes. He says, is that a cigarette scene? I don't know if it's the cigarette, but the fly lands on him, he smacks him and he goes, take me back to old Virginia.
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That's what Richard Pryor says.
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And the next thing you know, they're playing poker with him. Love it. At the time of his life.
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I know. Richard Pryor's terrible. Yeah. So there's that big guy.
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Yeah, that's him.
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Yeah.
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Remember he could sing?
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He could sing. Yep. Yep.
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Somebody surprised.
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Such a good. All right. Just the way they sneak out and let's get to.
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So. Yeah. Look at all these shows. Some I Dream of Genie.
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B
Oh, yeah. Oh, I Dream of Genie Rogers.
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Neighbors. So many of them. What's get me down to the PM shows.
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B
Yeah. Let's see what we was doing at night time.
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A
Let's see. Here we go. What's happening?
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Like I said. Yeah.
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Electric Company. Happy days again. It was Heroes. Yup, that's Barney Miller.
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My fondest memory of Hogan's Heroes because I used to watch it. Tell you, I was like a weirdo. I remember. So I'm allergic to like soap. Like a lot of like. So. So I have to get like soap that's like. Has like nothing in it. I remember when I was a kid I used this like Irish Spring, the Irish Spring soap. I remember I had like this bad breakout, right. And it was like super bad, you know, and then. And then no, there's this like. It's a whistle, but like I forget how the fucking. But it's like a whistle and a snare. Like a army snare or whatever. But I remember, you know, my mom let me stay home from school the next day because I had broke out like real bad. And I just remember I got to watch Hogan's Heroes like fucking all day. And I was like so stoked. That's like my fondest memory of like Hogan's Heroes. But you know there's a crazy story about that homeboy, right?
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Yeah, there's a whole documentary about him.
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B
Oh, there is.
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A
He's like a sex freak and all that.
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Yeah.
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I believe played his character.
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Yeah, he got murdered. But I always loved the dude because with the. That would put his glasses like he just had the one glass on the eye, that guy, right? Yep. Now I would always do it with like a quarter because I was thought that Guy was like cool, cool looking or whatever. But yeah, that was another like, good show.
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A
I want to get to this. Tell me about the first vacation you took because you said that was with your adopted family, right?
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B
Oh, bro. Where we go. And you gotta realize that when we took a vacation, I was 20.
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A
That was your first vacation?
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B
Yeah.
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A
That's too old.
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Well, we went to look at this.
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A
Where are you all headed?
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We went to Legoland. Yeah. Out here?
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Yeah.
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I thought it was.
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A
So you're too old for Lego.
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We went to Legoland. What's that place? SeaWorld. I said, what's that place? Like you would know in SeaWorld, bro. And it was like, it was just weird to me. Like, I was just like. I remember at one point I just stayed back at like the. It was before Airbnbs, but we like rented something or whatever. Cause I was just like, I. I don't know, it was just weird going on a, you know, a vacation at 20, you know, but it was like a kid. But also my sisters are a lot like, if you go back to that picture.
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Yeah, you're a lot older.
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Yeah, I'm a lot older than, you know, the, than my sisters, so they obviously enjoyed it. But like, you know, they were like excited to take me on like my first vacation. And I just don't think I appreciated it as much because I was just so, like, like, what am I doing? Like, why am I fucking? I don't know. It was just weird. So. Oh, that's. That's me when I was. That's in the 90s. That's me. I think I was three years old right there, that's my stepdad, right? That's one of my brothers to the right. The brother in the red, that's my brother that passed away. And then to the left, that's my sister right there. And that's my mom. And there's me and my biological father. We reconnected when I was 29. Right. So he was locked up for like 17 years. He's doing amazing now. It's kind of. It's pretty cool, you know, cool story with him. He's. He's a, he's a great dude, you know, really, really, really, really turned his life around. And it's like, cool that we, like. I don't know, you know, life's so weird. Like, even though I didn't, like, most of us don't grow up like a traditional way that, you know, but, you know, even though I didn't grow up like, in a traditional way, I still Feel like I have family.
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Oh, yeah.
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You know what I mean? Like, I don't feel like I'm, like, you know, like. That's what I'm saying, bro. I love my stepdad, you know? Like. Like, I don't know. I just can't be mad about. About something that, you know, whatever that is just, you know, so far from the past, you know? I don't know. I don't know. I just. I just love love life. But what's cool, though, is, like, yeah, I do feel like I have, like, a big family, and I feel like I've learned so much from, like, each. You know, because, like. Cause, like, my. Obviously, my. You know, my biological mom and stepdad, they're different than, like, obviously my adopted folks.
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A
Before we get out of here, I want to hear some cheer camp stories, because as I was saying to you, bro, I don't think we've had a lady come on here that's gone to cheer camp. So let's get some original ones.
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Like, it's, like, really naughty.
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Well, how old were you?
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I was.
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A
This was college cheer camp. So what happened in cheer camp? If you don't want to share it, we could just wrap this up.
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B
Oh, fuck it.
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A
We don't have to. You don't have to. Don't mess yourself up.
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B
No, I mean, it happens. So, like, I didn't lose my virginity. I was 21. What? Yeah.
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A
Is that right?
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Yeah. Right? Yeah. Okay. Because I didn't grow up, like, I never grew up, like, thinking about, like, oh, I just want to hook up with girls, or I wanted a phone.
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I just figured an angry young man would have lost his virginity at some point. At least get that out.
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No, I was trying to fall in love. I, like, love, because I like rom coms, too. Sure. So I remember I was at cheer camp. You know, this is in college. And, you know, we.
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And give me the ratio female to male. 80, 20, 92.
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I mean, yeah, there's more. Obviously way more female than male, you.
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Know, but, like, is it under 20 dudes total, or.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, roughly around there. Around there. Yeah. And I remember we were like. It was like the last day of camp. We were, like, all hanging out. You know, we were drinking or whatever. And I remember. I remember, like, we were staying in, like, a hotel off the beach, right? And one girl just started dancing on me, you know, And I was just like, oh, wow, that did something to me. And she was like, let me see. And I was like, okay. And then shoulder. And then she's like, let's go to your room. And I was like, okay. Like, you know, like I said, it's so funny telling the story because I get so nervous. So then we go to another room.
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A
This how you lost your virginity?
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No, this was the second time. My second time. So, like, I don't. I'm still not familiar, you know, in the. In the world. Still not familiar in the sex world. So, you know, we start going at it, right? And all of a sudden, like, there was this, like, random. I felt this weird thing that happened while, like, inside. And I was like, you know, so I pull out or whatever, and then there's blood, right? And I was like, oh, shit. And she was like, oh, shit, I'm sorry. You know, maybe that's me, or whatever. And I was like, oh, okay. You know, and then we. I go to. I was like, I'll just go clean off, you know, Because I'm telling you, I don't know anything, you know? But I go to clean off. Right? And then I realize there's still blood. And it was me. What? Yes. No, it was me. I was the one.
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A
What's happening?
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You. So, I didn't know that you had, like. Thank you for disturbing princess. Right. I didn't know. You can't just go in there. You have to, like, get someone. Do you have to get the woman Someone, you said.
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A
I thought you were about to suggest. Somebody's got to come in and proper. Yeah. You shouldn't be going in there without lube or some sort of natural.
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Yes. Or so. So lubrication. So I didn't know. So I was just like. And I was drunk, and she was drunk, and it was just dry. And so basically it's like, you know, the friction of skin on skin.
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A
Never in my life have I ever heard this, ever. You're telling me that you went in so dry that it ripped your dick skin?
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B
No. Yes. Yes.
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A
And then how bad?
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Well, because. So I didn't get the snifaroo as a kid.
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A
Yeah.
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And so when I got to the bathroom, it just. And I was drunk. And when you're drunk, like, your blood is, like, thin.
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Yeah.
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And I could not stop bleeding.
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A
What? It's just dripping out of your dick.
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Just dripping. Dude.
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A
I would. I don't know if I'd pass out or not from all the fall.
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B
I was, like, freaking out so bad. Yeah, I was, too. I think I was too drunk to even, like, pass out, but it just would not stop.
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A
What'd you do?
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I called. I called my friends in friend. Yeah, on 9 1. Which is like. Which is like some gay dudes. And they were like, ooh, let us see. And I'm just kidding. But anyways, so I call my homies in, and they're like, what happened? I was like, this. And then they see. They're like, oh, no. They were like. And then they were like, how did blood get all over the walls? I was like, I don't know. I was freaking out here because I was freaking out. I was like, oh, my God, what am I doing? I was like, I shouldn't have been having sex. I should have never had sex. Why am I having sex? I should not have sex. I was, like, freaking out. This is at cheer camp. And I was freaking out. So then they were like, okay, you clean up in here. We'll clean up out there. And I remember.
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A
What's the girl doing?
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Jesus left. And so what they did is they. They took the bloody sheets and they just threw them on the beach.
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A
Nuh.
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B
Yes.
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A
Just left bloody sheets in the beach.
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B
I'm sitting here holding the towels in my wiener and then also wiping down.
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A
Yes.
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Swear to God. I swear to God. And then we had one more day of cheer camp, like, or whatever, like that morning, and we had to be in full uniform and we're outside on the beach. It's hot, sweating, and it, like, hurt to, like, pee. I'll bet it was like, I'm sweating.
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Sweat. Soft.
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Yes. I have to, like. I have to, like, flip my body in the air. Throw humans in the air. Meanwhile, I'm just, like, in pain.
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A
Damn. I've never heard that before.
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B
I mean. Yeah, he never heard it because also, most people know what they're doing. I didn't know what I was doing, you know, Dude.
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A
Chappelle, Lacy, thank you for doing this episode.
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B
Thanks for letting me tell that story.
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A
Promote whatever you'd like, please.
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Yes, always. Tour dates, chappellelacey.com I got them going on all the time. My podcast, Lesser Known Characters with Joel Jimenez as well. And come see me live. I love seeing people at the shows, so that's like my favorite thing. Just buy tickets. Just buy tickets. Yeah, that's all I want.
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A
And thank you, guys. Thank you for supporting this show. Go give us a rating. Give us a review, and come see me on tour. All tickets are available on my website@ryan sickler.com. thank you and we'll talk to you all next week.