In this conversation, John Vervaeke joins the show to examine why modern society feels increasingly detached from meaning, truth, and shared reality. They explore how fragmentation of attention, breakdowns in sense-making, and the collapse of shared narratives are driving social instability, polarization, and existential confusion. They discuss money as a collective meaning structure, how cultures lose coherence, and why civilizations don’t collapse all at once — they dissolve through loss of relevance, trust, and wisdom. From cognitive science and philosophy to Bitcoin, spirituality, and the crisis of modernity, this episode explores what it means to live in a world where consensus itself is breaking down.