What does it mean to build a species that outlives you? In this conversation, Robert Breedlove sits down with Toufi Saliba — entrepreneur, AI pioneer, co-author of the TODA/IP protocol, and CEO of HyperCycle Toufi brings decades of experience at the intersection of AI, cryptography, decentralization, and incentive design to a wide-ranging discussion on the nature of intelligence, and why the race for centralized AGI control may already be lost — in the best possible way.