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Episode: How a Good Recovery Routine Can Help You Stick With Your Workouts
Date: January 28, 2026
Hosts: Christine Cyr Clisset, Caira Blackwell, Producer Rosie Guerin
Guests: Dr. Leda Malik (Physical Therapist and Author), Seth Berkman (Wirecutter Fitness Gear Expert)

Overview

This episode explores the often-overlooked role recovery plays in fitness routines. Hosts Christine and Caira are joined by Dr. Leda Malik, a licensed physical therapist and author of The Science of Stretch, and later by Wirecutter’s own Seth Berkman, to break down how the right recovery routine can make workouts more sustainable—and enjoyable. The episode is packed with evidence-based advice, hands-on product tips, and practical recovery methods to boost your workout game, help reduce soreness, and improve overall well-being.

Why Recovery Is Crucial (04:37–07:53)

Guest: Dr. Leda Malik

Key Insights

• Recovery bridges workouts. It’s not only about what happens right after you exercise, but how you manage stress, nutrition, and rest between sessions.
• Your body and nervous system need to dial down: After intense exercise, your heart rate and blood flow remain elevated. Allowing time to slow down benefits both your muscles and your nervous system, aiding stress management and future performance.
  • Quote: “Half of this recovery game is stress management.” (06:46, Dr. Malik)
• Intentionality matters: Scheduling even a short recovery session after a workout can have lasting benefits.
  • Quote: “Setting aside that recovery time just allows them to structure that accordingly…” (05:03, Dr. Malik)

What Makes for a Smart Post-Workout Recovery? (07:53–10:58)

Practical Post-Workout Tips:

• Stretching: Both static (hold for at least 30 seconds) and dynamic (move in and out of the stretch, hold 10–20 seconds).

  • Static stretching is ideal post-workout for increasing flexibility and reducing soreness.
  • Dynamic stretching is better pre-workout to prepare muscles and reduce injury risk.

• Foam Rolling: Works as a self-massage (myofascial release), improving range of motion and helping flush out exercise-induced swelling.

• Additional Modalities: Compression, gentle stretching, light massage, and sometimes heat or cold therapy.

  • Quote: “Foam rolling can make you feel a lot looser in those muscles that you’re rolling.” (08:21, Dr. Malik)

Stretching: Before or After? (08:49–09:59)

Dynamic vs Static

• Dynamic stretching: For warming up, keeps movements short and active.
• Static stretching: Holds lingering stretches post-workout.
  • Quote: “Dynamic is a little bit better for before a workout than static.” (09:43, Christine)
  • Response: “Correct.” (09:46, Dr. Malik)

Foam Rolling & Self-Myofascial Release (10:08–10:58)

• Self-myofascial release: Rolling muscles over a foam roller to potentially relax muscle and nervous system tension.
  • Quote: “Ideally you’re getting a muscle and you’re rolling it over the roller… that can help reduce muscle tension in the muscle that you’re rolling.” (10:21, Dr. Malik)
• Personal comfort matters: If you hate foam rolling, you likely won’t benefit. Choose a method you’ll stick with.

Cold Plunges, Heat, and Recovery Gadgets (10:58–13:13)

• Cold Plunges:

  • May reduce muscle soreness when you need to recover quickly, e.g., for athletes with back-to-back events.
  • Can blunt the body’s natural inflammatory response that actually helps build muscle, so not always ideal after strength training.
  • Quote: “By doing that cold water immersion right after your strength day, you might be doing yourself a disservice.” (11:54, Dr. Malik)

• Heat (Saunas, Hot Tubs):

  • Ice: Best for reducing soreness in the first 48 hours.
  • Heat: Better for muscle tension or soreness persisting after a couple of days.
  • Quote: “Heat tends to do better for that.” (13:00, Dr. Malik)

The Role of Hydration, Nutrition, and Sleep (13:13–15:19)

• Hydrate before, during, and after.
• Protein & carbs: Needed post-exercise to rebuild muscle and restore energy.
• Rest: Consistent good sleep is vital; don’t push past your limits routinely.
  • Quote: “Making sure you’re eating enough is a huge portion of making sure you don’t crash after the workout.” (14:23, Dr. Malik)

Recap from Dr. Leda Malik (15:19–16:21)

• “Recovery is your chance to take that controlled amount of stress that you just put your body through and give it a moment to regulate that to improve your function and come back even stronger for the next workout. It has to be intentional. And I think that’s when people get the most out of it.” (15:58, Dr. Malik)

Building a Recovery Toolkit: Gear That Works (17:10–28:50)

Guest: Seth Berkman (Wirecutter fitness gear expert)

Essential Tools (17:48–19:49)

• Yoga Mat

  • Basic, affordable options provide comfort for stretching; higher-end ones can be more durable (e.g., lululemon’s dual-surface mat).
  • Quote: “Our budget pick… around $25 should more than suffice.” (18:35, Seth)

• Foam Rollers

  • Vary in density and firmness. Softer rollers are often more comfortable for post-workout; firmer rollers may offer deeper release but can be painful.
  • Quote: “When it comes to post workout recovery, you may want to gravitate towards something that’s a bit softer in density.” (21:28, Seth)
  • Recommendations: Gaiam Restore Total Body Roller (~$30–$40); Tiger Tail stick roller (~$40).

• Massage Guns

  • Optional: Their real benefit is mostly psychological comfort; the science is inconclusive.
  • More accessible/easier for some people than foam rolling.
  • Expensive models like Theragun Mini ($220) and alternatives like Meebok ($100) are available; consider weight and ease-of-use.
  • Quote: “The biggest benefit you may get out of it is just how does it feel? Do you find it relaxing? … It’s up in the air whether or not massage guns can provide [true muscular benefit]. Part of me thinks a lot of people like them because they look cool.” (23:43, Seth)

• Massage Balls & DIY:

  • Tennis balls or dedicated massage balls, especially when placed in a long sock for targeted pressure—affordable and practical.

• Resistance Bands:

  • Mini-loop bands help with targeted stretching and flexibility boosts.

Quick Product Picks & Price Ranges

• Yoga Accessories Extra Thick Deluxe Mat: ~$25
• lululemon Mat: More expensive, longer-lasting, dual surface (slick for cardio, soft for stretching)
• Gaiam Restore Total Body Foam Roller: ~$30–$40
• Tiger Tail Stick Roller: ~$40, versatile for travel and easy use
• Theragun Mini Massage Gun: MSRP ~$220 (often on sale)
• Meebok Massage Gun: ~$100
• Massage Balls: Inexpensive, great substitution for massage guns/rollers
• Resistance Bands: Affordable, versatile for stretching or minor strength work

Discussion Highlights, Memorable Quotes, and Advice

• On Cold Plunges:
  • "I'm never getting another cold plunge again." (12:35, Caira)
• On Massage Guns:
  • “I think a lot of people like them because they look cool… Is it better than a foam roller? I wouldn’t definitively say so.” (23:43, Seth)
• On Upgrading Foam Rollers:
  • “What I do think I am going to invest in… I currently have the budget pick foam roller, and it’s very firm. And I’ve learned that I can branch out and do something softer.” (30:59, Caira)

Key Takeaways from Hosts (30:15–31:47)

• Christine: Gained new appreciation for the importance of winding down after a workout, understanding the role of the nervous system, stress, and how a good cool down can set the tone for the day.
• Caira: Plans to eat before workouts to avoid post-workout crashes. More skeptical on massage gun value, but eager to try a softer foam roller and perhaps invest in massage balls.

Notable Timestamps

• 04:37: Start of Dr. Leda Malik interview
• 07:53: What a 10–15 minute recovery session can look like
• 10:08: Self-myofascial release explained
• 10:58: Cold plunges & ice baths—pros/cons
• 13:13: Broader recovery: hydration, nutrition, sleep
• 17:10: Start of Seth Berkman interview—building your home recovery toolkit
• 18:35: Budget vs. premium yoga mats
• 21:28: Foam roller types and recommendations
• 23:43: Are massage guns worth it?
• 27:04: Massage balls, DIY hacks, and resistance bands

Final Thoughts

A well-structured and intentional recovery routine—incorporating stretching, foam rolling or massage, heat/ice when needed, proper hydration and nutrition, and adequate rest—can be the difference between sticking with your workout goals and burning out. The right tools don’t have to break the bank: start with a solid mat, a foam roller or massage stick, and perhaps a massage ball. Listen to your body and make recovery as habitual as your workouts themselves.

Links to all recommended products are in the show notes or on The Wirecutter’s website.