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Christine Cyr Clisette
I'm Christine Cyr Clisette.
Kyra Blackwell
I'm Kyra Blackwell.
Rosie Guerin
I'm Rosie Guerin and you're listening to the Wirecutter Show.
Christine Cyr Clisette
This episode of the Wirecutter show is called Tariff Shopping Confusion.
Rosie Guerin
Hi, it's Rosie. And today we're doing a quick bonus episode on the news story dominating the headlines. Terry, tariffs. Over the last few months, we've seen tariffs imposed on Mexico and Canada on certain products like cars. President Trump has also imposed a 10% tariff on imports from all countries. Hours after a raft of new even higher tariffs went into effect On Wednesday, April 9, the Trump administration changed course and paused them for 90 days. As of this recording, only one of those tariffs remains in effect, a 145% tariff on China. But even that has changed in the last 24 hours. Those policies have left many Americans wondering how product prices will be affected stateside and what it will mean for us as individuals.
Christine Cyr Clisette
There's a lot of uncertainty for companies that make products, for customers who buy products, and even for our journalists at Wirecutter who review products. And the news is changing quickly and unpredictably. So. So we thought what better moment to host. Caitlin McGarry, Senior Editor covering tech here at Wirecutter, who has done some excellent reporting on how to approach buying everyday goods and bigger ticket items right now based on what we know with regards to these tariffs.
Kyra Blackwell
That's right. Christine and I are going to talk with Caitlin about what's likely going to change, what you can do to prepare and what you really shouldn't do. Here's a hint. No panic purchasing. We're going to take a quick break and then we'll be here with Caitlin on the other side. Be right back. This podcast is supported by Sierra.
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Christine Cyr Clisette
Welcome Caitlin. Thanks for joining us.
Caitlin McGarry
Thanks for having me.
Christine Cyr Clisette
Caitlin. The new tariffs that President Trump is putting into effect have really dominated the news over the last few weeks, and it's admittedly really difficult to decipher what's actually happening when and what is really at stake. It doesn't help that the Trump administration has announced, implemented, and then paused or changed various tariffs over the last weeks. So, Caitlin, I'm hoping you can tell us what is actually being taxed at this point.
Caitlin McGarry
Yeah, it's been a confusing few weeks to be sure. So right now There's a baseline 10% tariff on every country. So imports coming in to America from those countries will be taxed at 10%. And then the other higher tariffs that went into effect on Wednesday have been paused. But there's still a really high tariff on goods coming into America from China. So those tariffs apply to nearly all goods imported from those countries, with a few exceptions like semiconductors, pharmaceuticals, crude oil, things like that.
Christine Cyr Clisette
And just to clarify, there are still these higher taxes on some things from Canada and Mexico, right?
Caitlin McGarry
Yes.
Christine Cyr Clisette
Okay.
Caitlin McGarry
Yeah, there were tariffs that were implemented over the last couple months on Canada, Mexico, and on things like cars, and those are still in effect.
Christine Cyr Clisette
Okay. And how much should people expect prices to go up? For instance, will an iPhone made in China become 145% more expensive?
Caitlin McGarry
No. I'm sure we've all seen the headlines about like, your iPhone will cost $3,000. And that obviously won't happen because I think Apple still wants to sell iPhones. So some of the bigger companies like Apple have high profit margins, so they can absorb some of that cost more easily without passing the full thing on to consumers. But companies who don't make a lot of money on their products, things like small businesses, they probably will have to pass on most of that to buyers. We probably won't see increases right away. We'll see prices go up with new product launches. When it comes to clothing, those prices will go up when because clothing is seasonal. So when new stuff starts coming out, it'll just cost more. And then same deal for like consumer electronics. So when a new product comes out, it will just cost more than the previous version did.
Kyra Blackwell
So if you're shopping seasonally, like you want the new drop of the Nikes or whatever, that's going to cost you more. But if you need staples, you can expect those to be Pretty much stay the same for a little while.
Caitlin McGarry
It depends on where the staples are made. Because now the tariff is just on China. That really high tariff is just on China. All goods imported from China will cost more. So it depends. If your clothing is made in China, yes, it will cost more. A lot of shoe factories in particular are based in Southeast Asia. So China, Vietnam, et cetera. A lot of consumer electronics are made in China. Like there's just no other place to make them right now. So basically, anything tech related will cost more.
Christine Cyr Clisette
And a lot of materials and parts are made in China and shipped to the United States to be made into other products. Right. So those products will probably see an increase as well.
Caitlin McGarry
Yeah. So it affects materials as well as, like, finished products.
Christine Cyr Clisette
All right, and when should we really expect to see the prices rise? You said, you know, new product launches, but what about things that are sort of like more everyday products? Do you think it'll be like kind of a slow creep or will we see spikes?
Caitlin McGarry
I would expect a slow creep. Most companies have actually already been planning for tariffs because they've been talked about for, you know, a few months now. So some of the experts I talked to said that companies have kind of been slowly raising prices over the last few months. So I think we're just going to see like, a slow creep. Except for with those new products, launching those will be like a pretty immediate spike.
Kyra Blackwell
So this all sounds pretty scary and uncertain, and I can imagine people might get the urge to go out and just panic, buy everything before prices shoot up. But how do you suggest people really think about this from a spending standpoint?
Caitlin McGarry
Well, it's Wirecutter's stance that you should never run out and panic, buy anything. And most things won't see an instant price increase like we were talking about. You know, there will be seasonal products and like, brand new products. Those will probably see the price increases first and everything else will be a little more gradual.
Christine Cyr Clisette
So, Caitlin, what are the products you'd suggest people consider buying now before prices go up?
Caitlin McGarry
Well, first, only buy something if you really, really need to. Like, something is broken and you have to replace it, or tech device that just, like, won't turn on anymore, that's when you should think about replacing right now. But our advice is the same as it always is. If you have to buy it new, get the highest quality product that you can afford so that it will last longer. As I was saying, consumer electronics, that's a category that's almost certainly going to increase because so much of it is made in China. So if you need a new laptop or a new phone, you should probably think about buying it sooner rather than later. And anything else made in China will also go up in price.
Kyra Blackwell
So what are some of the products where we can take a wait and see approach then?
Caitlin McGarry
Pretty much anything that's not made in China.
Kyra Blackwell
So nothing.
Caitlin McGarry
I know you'd be surprised how much stuff is imported from China. Like so much furniture and textiles, it really runs the gamut. But if you don't need to replace something right away, I would strongly recommend waiting for deals. So we always see discounts on Memorial Day, Prime Day, Black Friday, things like that. And we're also always advocates for buying refurbished or used better for the environment. You can often find better prices. I personally love Facebook Marketplace and my local Buy Nothing group, so you can really find ways to shop that will lessen the impact of tariffs on you.
Kyra Blackwell
We're all big fans of buying refurbished and we love Facebook Marketplace. But I had a question just about deals and won't the tariffs be impacting the amount of deals that we see on these big deal days like Prime Day or Black Friday?
Caitlin McGarry
Yeah. So I spoke with an analyst who told me that retailers just might be more hesitant to offer the kinds of discounts we've seen before. Or if the prices have gone up so much. The discounts you'll see might be the same like percentage wise, but like obviously won't be as cheap as you could get them like last year.
Christine Cyr Clisette
This is all really great advice, but we also want to be clear that the news is going to change and it's going to probably continue shifting, right?
Caitlin McGarry
Yes, absolutely. Minute by minute. So we're closely tracking the changing retail landscape as tariffs are implemented, as they're adjusted, as they're paused. And we're keeping track of prices too over the next few weeks and months. So if you have questions or you need help navigating like this really thorny product landscape right now, I definitely recommend emailing us or reaching out on social media and we can help.
Kyra Blackwell
Caitlin McGarry, senior editor on the tech team, thank you so much for joining us today.
Caitlin McGarry
Thanks for having me.
Christine Cyr Clisette
Thanks, Caitlin.
Kyra Blackwell
If you want to read more about Wirecutter's coverage on tariff affected products, or if you want to keep up with the changing landscape, go to nytimes.comwirecutter or you can find a link in the Show Notes, the Times newsroom as well as our colleagues at Hard Fork and at the Daily have excellent coverage as well. That's it for us. Thank you so much for listening. The Wirecutter show is executive produced by Rosie Guerin and produced by Abigail Keel. Engineering support from Maddie Mazziello and Nick Pittman. Original music by Dan Powell, Marian Lozano, Alicia But Itup and Diane Wong. Wirecutter's deputy publisher is Cliff Levy. Ben Fruman is Wirecutter's editor in chief. I'm Kyra Blackwell.
Christine Cyr Clisette
I'm Christine Cyrclassette.
Rosie Guerin
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Kyra Blackwell
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Release Date: April 11, 2025
Hosts: Christine Cyr Clisset, Kyra Blackwell
Producer: Rosie Guerin
Guest: Caitlin McGarry, Senior Editor covering Tech at Wirecutter
In the episode titled "Tariff Shopping Confusion," hosts Christine Cyr Clisset and Kyra Blackwell, along with producer Rosie Guerin, delve into the perplexing landscape of recent tariff changes impacting American consumers and businesses. The discussion is further enriched by insights from Caitlin McGarry, Wirecutter’s Senior Editor covering tech, who provides expert analysis on navigating the evolving market dynamics due to these tariffs.
Rosie Guerin opens the episode by highlighting the tumultuous period over the past few months, marked by the imposition of tariffs on imports from Mexico, Canada, and notably, a 10% tariff on imports from all countries under President Trump's administration. On April 9, the Trump administration altered its stance by pausing several new and higher tariffs for 90 days, leaving only a significant 145% tariff on goods from China active—though this too faced changes within the last day before recording.
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Caitlin McGarry (04:13): “Right now there's a baseline 10% tariff on every country... but there's still a really high tariff on goods coming into America from China.”
Christine Cyr Clisset raises concerns about how these tariffs will influence product prices in the United States and the uncertainty surrounding these changes. Caitlin McGarry explains that while headlines may misrepresent the extent of price hikes—for example, speculating that an iPhone made in China could see a 145% price increase—the reality is nuanced. Large corporations with substantial profit margins, like Apple, may absorb some costs, whereas smaller businesses might pass the full tariff burden onto consumers.
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Caitlin McGarry (04:38): “No, I'm sure we've all seen the headlines about like, your iPhone will cost $3,000. And that obviously won't happen because I think Apple still wants to sell iPhones.”
Caitlin emphasizes that consumer electronics, predominantly manufactured in China, are likely to experience price increases. This sector includes laptops, smartphones, and other tech gadgets, where the tariffs could lead to higher costs for new product launches.
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Caitlin McGarry (05:40): “A lot of consumer electronics are made in China. Like there's just no other place to make them right now. So basically, anything tech related will cost more.”
Clothing, especially items manufactured in China or Southeast Asia, will see gradual price increments aligned with seasonal product launches. Caitlin advises that while staple items may remain stable initially, new collections and trendy items are more susceptible to price hikes.
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Kray Blackwell (05:29): “So if you're shopping seasonally, like you want the new drop of the Nikes or whatever, that's going to cost you more.”
The tariffs not only affect finished products but also raw materials and components sourced from China. This comprehensive impact means that a wide range of products, from furniture to textiles, could experience increased prices due to higher costs of imported materials.
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Caitlin McGarry (06:10): “So it affects materials as well as, like, finished products.”
Kyra Blackwell addresses the natural consumer urge to stock up on goods before prices rise. Caitlin reinforces Wirecutter’s advice against panic buying, suggesting a measured approach to purchasing, focusing on necessity rather than impulse.
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Caitlin McGarry (07:13): “Well, it's Wirecutter's stance that you should never run out and panic, buy anything.”
When replacement is necessary—such as broken appliances or non-functional tech devices—Caitlin recommends purchasing the highest quality products available to ensure longevity, thus mitigating the impact of future price increases.
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Caitlin McGarry (07:37): “Our advice is the same as it always is. If you have to buy it new, get the highest quality product that you can afford so that it will last longer.”
For non-essential items, Caitlin advises adopting a "wait and see" approach, leveraging major sales events like Memorial Day, Prime Day, and Black Friday to find discounts. Additionally, she encourages buying refurbished or used items through platforms like Facebook Marketplace to circumvent tariff-induced price hikes.
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Caitlin McGarry (08:20): “If you don't need to replace something right away, I would strongly recommend waiting for deals.”
While major sale events are traditionally opportune times for bargains, Caitlin notes that tariffs may lead retailers to offer less aggressive discounts or maintain percentage-based reductions without achieving previous price lows.
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Caitlin McGarry (09:14): “Retailers just might be more hesitant to offer the kinds of discounts we've seen before.”
Christine acknowledges the fluid nature of the tariff situation, emphasizing that policies might continue to shift rapidly. Caitlin confirms that Wirecutter is actively monitoring changes and encourages listeners to reach out with queries for personalized assistance.
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Caitlin McGarry (09:41): “Minute by minute... we're closely tracking the changing retail landscape as tariffs are implemented, as they're adjusted, as they're paused.”
The episode concludes with the hosts directing listeners to additional resources for ongoing coverage and support. They highlight Wirecutter's comprehensive reporting on tariff-affected products available on their website and through affiliated news outlets like Hard Fork and The Daily.
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Kyra Blackwell (10:19): “If you want to read more about Wirecutter's coverage on tariff affected products... that's it for us. Thank you so much for listening.”
For more detailed guidance and up-to-date information on how tariffs may affect your purchasing decisions, visit Wirecutter’s Tariff Coverage or follow them through their social media channels.