Transcript
Frannie Block (0:01)
Previously on Spiral. The president of a Detroit synagogue who was found stabbed to death outside of her home yesterday morning. I thought that it was my neighbor Sam Wall. I would look at everybody and say, could you have done it? Could you have done it? Could you have done it?
Brian Brown (0:17)
Sam wasn't a cutthroat divorce attorney. Sam didn't have a long list of.
Frannie Block (0:22)
Enemies in my bone of bones. Really feel that it's a hate crime.
Purnakrishnamoorthy (Perna) (0:26)
Who knows if this was targeted?
Frannie Block (0:29)
Maybe they were able to get to.
Purnakrishnamoorthy (Perna) (0:31)
Her, but I should be on that list, too.
Frannie Block (0:35)
You had no idea who would have the motivation to kill Samuel?
Purnakrishnamoorthy (Perna) (0:37)
Nope.
Brian Brown (0:38)
Nothing.
Frannie Block (0:47)
A Detroit Police Station, November 2023. One white officer sits across from a black man they've pulled in for an interview. He's in his late 20s, wearing a black hoodie and a yellow vest. The officer is bald, stocky, and has a goatee. The young man looks anxious. It's understandable. He was picked up on his way to his job at Fresh Roots, a Detroit smoothie shop. His hands are in his lap underneath the table, and the officer is writing notes. And the guy in the hoodie asks at one point, am I being arrested? Well, I mean, you are in custody. No, I mean you are in custody. We'll see how this goes. Figure out whether you'll stay in custody.
Bad Cop (1:33)
Okay.
Frannie Block (1:34)
What you will hear throughout this episode is the real audio of this interrogation, but the quality isn't that great. So we've used actors to make it a little more clear. After signing a form that says he understands his Miranda rights, the cop asks him about selling an item in a pawn shop. The guy in the hoodie says he found some designer glasses on the ground and he later sold them. Okay, fine, the cop says. But then the officer pivots. He looks at his phone, and he kind of casually says, you guys been getting.
Michael Jackson Bolanos (2:09)
