The Wolf Of All Streets – Crypto Rallies After Wild Weekend! What’s Next?
Host: Scott Melker
Date: December 8, 2025
Episode: Crypto Rallies After Wild Weekend! What’s Next? #CryptoTownHall
Episode Overview
In this heated Crypto Town Hall, Scott Melker and a rotating panel of traders, analysts, and industry insiders dissect the wild market swings that shook the crypto space over the weekend. They debate the implications of central bank policy, speculative trading, institutional adoption, and the psychology of market participants. The conversation ranges from weekend Bitcoin price action and the macroeconomic backdrop, to the evolving utility of prediction markets, pathologies of retail speculation, and the fundamental value drivers for crypto assets like Bitcoin and Ethereum.
Key Discussion Points
1. Wild Weekend Price Action & Leverage (00:00–02:13)
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Scott Melker marvels at the rapid $3-4K drop and rip in Bitcoin, questioning why traders risk high leverage in such an uncertain environment.
- "It still just absolutely baffles my mind when you see something like price going down 3 or 4 thousand dollars, immediately back up and then higher, all in a matter of three or four hours..." (00:22)
- Points out the recurring pattern of weekend liquidations due to thin liquidity.
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Panelist B agrees, suggesting most retail action is driven by boredom and desperation, describing the recent months as a "gambling" environment. Notes the anticipation of a 25bp Fed rate cut in the upcoming FOMC week, likely already "priced in" by markets:
- "I think that's the definition of priced in..." (02:31)
2. Macro Backdrop: Fed Policy, Liquidity Stress & Forward Guidance (02:13–04:57)
- Panelist C highlights that the focus should be less on the rate cut, and more on "forward guidance" and the possibility of renewed quantitative easing (QE)-style liquidity:
- "It's not really the cut that matters, it's the forward guidance and whether or not they announce RMPs, which would functionally be very akin to QE..." (03:10)
- Details how repo market stress and bank reserve creation are central to what's next for risk assets.
3. Is Bitcoin Decoupled From Macro? (04:57–07:56)
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Scott challenges the notion that Bitcoin is currently trading on macro liquidity narratives, citing its lack of correlation with gold, silver, and equities:
- "Bitcoin has been uncorrelated for a very long time... it's hard to make the argument that Bitcoin is reacting to this if you're making the argument that everything else is." (05:47)
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C & E (other panelists) counter that Bitcoin has been sensitive to liquidity, but is also still in the process of digesting last summer's crypto "bubble" and leverage unwind. They discuss capital shifting to other markets and the impact of ETF flows.
4. Retail Flows, Market Sentiment & “Gambling” Psychology (07:57–14:23)
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E highlights the migration of capital from altcoins/meme coins into prediction markets (e.g., Polymarket), reducing retail trading volumes in conventional crypto:
- "Prediction markets kind of sucking the retail wind out of the meme coin market..." (07:57)
- Cites macro signals: US housing market illiquidity, rising cost of living, and "slowing" retail sentiment.
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C underscores the challenge of encouraging young people to save in Bitcoin during a time of stagnant wages and rising debt:
- "They’re working two, three jobs with a side hustle, right? Living paycheck to paycheck..." (10:16)
5. Bitcoin Exchange Reserves & Technical Signals (11:14–12:49)
- F notes falling BTC exchange reserves, attributing recent volatility to thin spot markets and dominance of large "whale" traders:
- "...all that spot has been taken and absorbed, it means that we have a very unstable BTC price on the short term..." (11:14)
- Suggests traders wait for stabilization and bullish signals on higher time frames.
6. Are We Early or Worn Out? Institutional Conferences & Long-Term Perspectives (28:47–36:09)
- Mark I. reports from the Bitcoin Mina conference, reflecting on the prevailing sense of being "early" in Bitcoin’s adoption, even as the market grinds sideways:
- "The one insight I have is still the old how early we are... right before it goes parabolic..." (28:56)
- Discusses Abu Dhabi's effort to "buy culture" and the shifting flavor of in-person crypto conferences towards institutional participants, rather than grassroots energy.
7. The ETF/Treasury Bid & The State of Bitcoin “Dry Powder” (36:16–44:48)
- Panelists discuss the “dry powder” (available capital) among Bitcoin treasuries and ETF companies, with Scott speculating about Michael Saylor’s and others’ recent big buys.
- Debate about what happens when treasury organizations run low on new capital—will mergers or discount buying (e.g., GBTC equivalent trades) become the norm?
- "There's no more money to buy bitcoin, which was the strategy. It's just not true. It's not accurate at all." (39:55 – H)
8. The Case for Building Real Businesses in Crypto (44:48–47:39)
- E argues that, for long-term sustainability, crypto companies need to generate “real” fiat income, echoing broader industry wisdom:
- "It would be just operate an epic business and a lot of these younger founders... figure out how to make money, and start making some money..." (44:48)
9. Ethereum, L2s, and Value Capture (47:39–52:42)
- Extended debate about whether Layer 2s (like BASE) dilute or complement Ethereum’s value proposition.
- G: "Ethereum is the security layer... Ethereum’s function does not stop."
- E: “If BASE launches their own gas token... that's not bullish for Ethereum.”
- G: “Ethereum is still mispriced... Ethereum is a lot more than what's being perceived.” (52:02)
Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments
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Scott Melker (on retail speculation):
"We've basically just handed the speculators like nuclear weapons to destroy themselves." (20:11) -
Panelist D (on zero-day options):
"Zero day options, particularly in the S P are so damn popular that they've been handed these weapons of mass destruction well over a year ago and they've been using them like crazy." (20:54) -
Panelist C (on the struggle of saving):
"For the average young person where the income needed to qualify on a house tripled... it’s hard for me to save in bitcoin and I know this stuff." (19:54) -
Panelist H (on the conference mood):
"People are worn out... There's a lot going on... I think we're gonna do this. Look, if I had enough bitcoin, I'd be moving this market around..." (26:36) -
Panelist G (on Ethereum’s value):
"Ethereum is the security layer. So whatever is good for Base is good for Ethereum... Ethereum is a lot more than what's being perceived and what's being seen." (49:39, 52:02) -
Mark I. (on conference contrast):
"It's easy to fill a room in Vegas. Right. It's a lot harder to get people on a plane to Abu Dhabi." (36:09)
Timestamps for Key Segments
- 00:00–02:13 Volatile weekend, retail liquidation patterns, lead-in to FOMC
- 03:10–04:57 Importance of Fed liquidity over simple rate cuts
- 04:57–07:56 Does Bitcoin’s price still track macro?
- 07:57–14:23 Retail disengagement, capital shifting to prediction markets, housing & credit woes
- 11:14–12:49 BTC reserves, technical analysis, and “whale” action
- 14:23–18:56 Financial literacy, Gen Z skepticism, desperation trades
- 28:47–36:09 Abu Dhabi conference, “early” feeling, cultural shifts
- 36:16–44:48 Treasuries, risk management, viability of ETF strategy
- 44:48–47:39 The enduring problem: real sustainable business in crypto
- 47:39–52:42 Ethereum’s value, Layer 2s, ecosystem debate
Takeaways
- Speculation’s surge is symptomatic: Persistent market-wide speculation, from leveraged trades to prediction markets and zero-day options, is seen as a response to economic disillusionment and structural issues in younger generations’ wealth-building.
- Liquidity is king: Both in macro and crypto-specific discussion, Fed guidance and the availability of real cash flows dominate outlooks. Bitcoin’s near-term future hinges more on liquidity dynamics than on simple narratives.
- Grind phase, not euphoria: The panel agrees we’re in a “grind” with sideways action, institutional conferences losing grassroots spark, and skepticism about runaway bullish moves until dry powder returns or macro shifts.
- Value debates rage: Differences linger around whether Ethereum (and other “infrastructure” layers) effectively capture value in a modular, multi-chain future.
Episode Tone & Vibe:
Lively, frank, occasionally sardonic. The group voices both fatigue and conviction—with an underlying sense that, for those who can stomach the grind, historic opportunities may still lie ahead.
Listen back tomorrow for more Crypto Town Hall!
