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1.20.25 The Supreme Court hears about TikTok and online child protection, David Bahnsen on California's red tape, and preparing for a championship game
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Mary Reichard
It's Martin Luther King Jr. Day. Good morning. At the Supreme Court, the porn industry fights age verification, saying filtering software is sufficient. But that argument met with skepticism.
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Justice Samuel Alito
Let me just say that content filtering for all those different devices, I can say from personal experience, is difficult to keep up with.
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Nick Eicher
That's ahead on Legal Docket. Also today, the Monday money beat. And we'll hear from a few college football players competing tonight for a lot more than merely a national title.
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G. Scott Jr.
That's why we don't place our whole entire priority and our whole entire life in this game. He has a steadfast love that never changes.
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Mary Reichard
It's Monday, January 20th, Inauguration Day. This is the world and everything in it. From listener supported World Radio, I'm Mary Reichard.
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Nick Eicher
And I'm Nick Eicher. Good morning.
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Mary Reichard
Now the news. Here's Kent Covington.
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Ken Covington
With his left hand on the Bible, Donald J. Trump will raise his right hand once again this afternoon and repeat after me.
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Donald Trump
I, Donald John Trump, do solemnly swear. I, Donald John Trump, do solemnly swear.
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Ken Covington
And Supreme Court Chief Justice John Roberts, just as he did eight years ago, will administer the oath of office at noon Eastern time after ceremonies at the Capitol. President Trump's motorcade will head to an arena in Washington where the traditional parade down Pennsylvania Avenue is being moved indoors due to extreme cold weather. And then finally, it's on to the White House for inaugural ball celebrations. Performers will include singers Jason Aldean and Gavin degraw as well as the Village People, who also performed at Trump's victory rally on Sunday. Trump told supporters yesterday packed into the nearly 20,000 seat Capital One arena in Washington that as of today, the curtain.
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Donald Trump
Closes on four long years of American decline. And we begin a brand new day of American strength and prosperity, dignity and pride.
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Ken Covington
Also speaking on Sunday was Tesla and SpaceX CEO Elon Musk. He is tasked with helping to lead the independent Department of Government Efficiency. And he told the crowd, quote, we're looking forward to making a lot of changes. Donald Trump also promised the Most extraordinary first 100 days of any presidency in American history.
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Donald Trump
Every radical and foolish executive order of the Biden administration will be repealed within hours of when I take the oath of office.
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Ken Covington
And he's planning to issue more than 100 executive orders of his own. Those will include numerous actions aimed at locking down the southern border and launching a promised mass deportation of those who have entered the country illegally. Another executive order will be aimed at saving TikTok. The social media app is back online in the US it temporarily went dark over the weekend after a law took effect banning the app in the United States, but TikTok flipped the switch back on after President Trump vowed an executive order. Trump advisor Jason Miller a lot of.
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Donald Trump
People are concerned about security and other measures such as that who know that he's going to get the deal done right. So I think you should be pretty optimistic if you're a TikTok user or.
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Nick Eicher
Supporter, and if anyone can help solve.
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Aaron Nielsen
It, it's President Trump.
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Ken Covington
The law required TikTok's Chinese parent company to sell the app or face a nationwide ban that was due to concerns over user privacy and even national security. The president's executive order will aim to give the platform's owners more time to find the right buyer. The Senate will be voting in the coming days on President Trump's cabinet picks. At least a handful of those votes will likely be tight, but others will likely cruise to confirmation, most notably Secretary of State nominee Marco Rubio. Democratic Senator Tim Kaine told CBS's Face.
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Donald Trump
The Nation he visited my office before the hearing. He did very well at the hearing, and I think we are likely to act on day one, and he'll get.
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Aaron Nielsen
A strong bipartisan vote.
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Ken Covington
Rubio could be confirmed today, and U.S. officials say he's expected to begin international engagements this week, including meetings with the foreign ministers of India, Japan and Australia. Three hostages released from Gaza are now back in Israel in the first test of a fragile ceasefire with Hamas. Israeli government spokesman David Mentzer says President Trump has given his full backing to.
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Mary Reichard
Israel's right to return to the fighting if Israel reaches the conclusion that the second stage of negotiations are ineffectual. Israel's government does, of course, want all stages to come into effect.
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Ken Covington
The deal calls for Hamas to gradually release 33 hostages over the next six weeks, and in return Israel will release almost 1,000 Palestinian prisoners, including militants and others accused of crimes. A polar vortex will blast most of the country east of the Rockies this week with extreme cold. Mark Chouinard with the National Weather Service.
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Aaron Nielsen
Wind chills below minus 40 already being observed across portions of North Dakota and Minnesota, but then wind chills as low as -20 spread across much of the Central Plains, even into the Great Lake.
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Ken Covington
The Mid Atlantic and the Northeast will also have wind chills below zero. The winter front will also blanket large portions of the eastern US with snow. Almost half the country right now is under some kind of winter weather advisory, watch or warning. I'm Ken Covington and straight ahead, the Supreme Court considers arguments for and against age verification laws. Plus the Monday money beat with economist David Bonson this is the world and everything in it.
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Nick Eicher
It's the world and everything in it for this 20th day of January 2025. We are so glad you've joined us today. Good morning, I'm Nick Iker.
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Mary Reichard
And I'm Mary Reichard.
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Aaron Nielsen
We have breaking news now.
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Mary Reichard
The Supreme Court has upheld the law that could ban TikTok.
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Nick Eicher
Good Friday morning to you. We're coming on the air with some breaking news from the Supreme Court Court. The High Court has just declined to.
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Aaron Nielsen
Stop a ban against TikTok can go into effect on Sunday unless its Chinese.
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Mary Reichard
Parent company ByteDance sells to a US based company in the next two days. So it's not a surprising ruling. And of course now it's going to be a question of what goes on once the President elect takes office. Yeah, well, it literally just dropped. TikTok's lawyers had really tried to argue this was a First Amendment. But no sooner had TikTok gone dark than then it flickered back to life.
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Nick Eicher
Breaking news from TikTok. It is in the process of restoring service after going dark for more than 170 million American users late last night.
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Donald Trump
I've been in shock for the last like 48 hours.
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Mary Reichard
This has been such a rollercoaster ride.
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Donald Trump
For content creators and users.
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Mary Reichard
This comes after President elect Trump said he planned to give TikTok a 90 day extension to continue operating.
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Justice Samuel Alito
Speaking of the President elect, we also have a statement here from him via Truth Social. I'm asking companies not to let TikTok stay dark. I will issue an executive order on Monday to extend the period of time before the law's prohibitions take effect.
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Mary Reichard
Megan, we just learned about this news.
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Aaron Nielsen
A few seconds ago during the commercial break.
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Mary Reichard
During the commercial break. It's getting banned.
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Donald Trump
Wait, no, it's going to get saved. No, no, no. It's actually going dark on the 19th.
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Mary Reichard
It's time now for legal docket. We will talk about three decisions of the Supreme Court and an oral argument in a case that may be as important as the TikTok case. But we will begin there. It was just 10 days ago that the High Court took up TikTok's appeal on an expedited sch. By Friday came an unsigned opinion that we can safely assume was unanimous. It holds that the ban does not violate TikTok's First Amendment rights despite the argument of the China owned company that it did.
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Nick Eicher
But the court found the government's argument most compelling. That the app is a Trojan horse threatening national security. It collects Americans data and twists public opinion. Listen to this. Comment from Chief Justice John Roberts to the lawyer for TikTok. What he says here gives a hint as to where the court was leaning.
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Aaron Nielsen
Counsel, you began by saying this is a US Company operating in the United States. Yes, you, Honor.
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Donald Trump
But the ultimate company that controls it.
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Aaron Nielsen
ByteDance, was found by Congress, and I quote this to be subject to Chinese laws that require it to assist or cooperate with the Chinese government's intelligence work, quote, and to ensure that the Chinese government has the power to access and control private data that the company holds. So are we supposed to ignore the fact that the ultimate parent is, in fact, subject to doing intelligence work for the Chinese government?
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Nick Eicher
This is going to have to factor into incoming President Trump's ultimate resolution. His hope is to save the app by way of a deal with ByteDance, the Chinese owner of TikTok. Or perhaps finding an American buyer would solve the problem.
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Mary Reichard
All right, from TikTok to Woof Woof. Prescription pet food and allegations of deceptive marketing. A decision in the case of Royal Canaan USA v. Wohlschlager. Now, this one was a narrow legal issue over jurisdiction, meaning where a lawsuit can be heard. Lead plaintiff Anastasia Wohlschlager sued in state court, but included both federal and state law claims in her complaint.
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Nick Eicher
Because of the federal claims, the pet food maker moved the case into federal court. Wolschlager felt she had a better shot in state court, so she amended her complaint. She removed those federal claims to get the case out of federal court, but that was the exact controversy the pet food company argued. No take backs. What gets to federal court stays in federal court. She can't just go back to state court. But the Supreme Court said, oh, yes, she can. And it was unanimous. You can hear the eventual ruling in this comment from Chief Justice Roberts to the pet food maker's lawyer during oral argument in October.
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Aaron Nielsen
You complain about the forum manipulation problems this would create. I don't see how that's a problem here. They wanted they started in state court. They want to go back to state court. They're not trying to manipulate anything.
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Mary Reichard
So Wolschlager and her dog Clinton returned to state court in Missouri.
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Nick Eicher
The next decision deals with overtime pay. A big win for employers in EMD Sales Inc. Vs Carrera. The law at issue is the Fair Labor Standards act, the flsa. Here, sales reps sued for overtime pay. Outside sales jobs are considered exempt from overtime. But these employees said their actual job duties were mostly not in sales. FLSA puts the burden on the employer to prove these workers truly are exempt from overtime. Rules.
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Mary Reichard
So the narrow legal question was how prove it? What do bosses have to show to prove that an employee is or isn't exempt from overtime pay? Well, there are two possibilities. Option A is showing merely that workers probably don't qualify for overtime pay, meaning a preponderance of the evidence or just more than 50% likely. Option B is showing clear and convincing evidence that the workers don't qualify. It's not quite beyond a reasonable doubt level of proof, but something around 75% likely to be true.
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Nick Eicher
Justice Clarence Thomas voiced the eventual rationale for a unanimous decision for the employer interpretation of the FLSA law.
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Aaron Nielsen
What is the standard in discrimination cases? You're right, you, Honor, it is a.
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G. Scott Jr.
Preponderance of the evidence.
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Aaron Nielsen
So why should FLSA be treated more.
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G. Scott Jr.
Advantageously than the discrimination cases?
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Nick Eicher
Disappointing for employees hoping for bigger paychecks, but at least there's a bit more clarity on the matter.
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Mary Reichard
Those are the decisions. And now a landmark case we probably won't know the outcome of until closer to the end of this term. This one grabbed headlines Free Speech Coalition Inc. Versus Ken Paxton. Now about that name, Free Speech Coalition. What this coalition means by speech is pornographic content. What it means by free is free of regulation. What's behind this trade group is a pornography industry that by some estimates rakes in more than $100 billion per. And that includes the operator of Pornhub, one of the most visited websites in the world, number 12.
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Nick Eicher
The porn producers object to a law Texas approved in 2023 with only a single no vote. It requires age verification before allowing access to explicit material online. The porn purveyors argue such an obstacle violates the rights of adults who want to look at pornography without anyone looking at them. They don't want to reveal their ident. The Free Speech Coalition says age verification erodes anonymity and deters lawful access to content.
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Mary Reichard
Justice Amy Coney Barrett is the mother of seven children. Here's what she said to Derek Shaffer. He's the lawyer who represents the pornographers.
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Justice Samuel Alito
Kids can get online porn through gaming systems, tablets, phones, computers. Let me just say that content filtering for all those different devices I can say from personal experience is difficult to keep up with. So. And I think that the explosion of addiction to online porn has shown that content filtering isn't working, Shaffer argued.
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Mary Reichard
It's still parents who have the responsibility to filter that stuff out on their own devices. Justice Samuel Alito do you know a.
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Nick Eicher
Lot of parents who are more tech.
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Ken Covington
Savvy than their 15 year old children?
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Aaron Nielsen
Justice Alito, it's a fair question.
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Nick Eicher
And Shaffer going on to say there is content filtering software out there and besides, Texas ought to be thinking about educating parents more. Justice Alito scoffed.
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Aaron Nielsen
I mean, Mr. Shaffer, come on, be real.
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Nick Eicher
There's a huge volume of evidence that filtering doesn't work.
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Ken Covington
We've had many years of experience with it.
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Aaron Nielsen
We now have many, many states who.
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Ken Covington
Have adopted age verification requirements.
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Mary Reichard
Why are they doing that if the.
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Ken Covington
Filtering is so good?
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Nick Eicher
Here's a shocking statistic we learned from this case. The Average age of first exposure to Internet porn is 12 years old in this country. So there's that. Then there's this. Pornography is considered speech under the First Amendment because it is a form of expression. It's not an unlimited protection though. Obscenity is not protected. But the that's another can of worms trying to define it. It's why one justice famously said it's hard to define, but I know it when I see it.
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Mary Reichard
Regardless, lawyer Shaffer for the porn producers argues this case comes down to one key question. What is the standard of legal review? The standard the appellate court used is a much more lenient standard giving the state a freer hand to regulate his clients products.
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Aaron Nielsen
In this case, a 5th Circuit majority held that mere rational basis review, the most lax form of judicial scrutiny, applies to a Texas law that burdens constitutionally protected speech based on its content. Specifically by imposing an age verification barrier before anyone can access a sexually themed website. That aberrant holding defies this court's consistent precedent.
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Mary Reichard
He wants the court to apply strict scrutiny. That's the most difficult standard and he'd almost certainly win under that standard. Shaffer leaned on a 20 year old ruling that a federal law called the Child Online Protection act was probably unconstitutional under strict scrutiny. The Texas law is similar to that one.
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Nick Eicher
So let's take a moment here and talk about legal standards for review. Strict scrutiny requires the state to prove first, a compelling government interest to restrict a constitutional right. Second, it requires that even compelling government interests be pursued using the least restrictive way possible. That's what the porn producers want. The rational basis standard is probably the only way Texas wins here. Rational basis requires only some legitimate government reason to restrict a right. Texas Solicitor General Aaron Nielsen petitioners don't.
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Aaron Nielsen
Dispute that their websites are not meant for children, that they harm children, and that children are watching. The court faced the same situation with brick and mortar stores and applied rational basis to a law limiting adult content to adults. Age verification today, however, is simple, safe and common, including non identifying means. Regardless, if strict scrutiny applies here, Texas would have to satisfy strict scrutiny to keep kids out of strip clubs. This court's cases do not require that. Neither do history, tradition, or common sense. In all events, even if heightened scrutiny applies, Texas easily satisfies it, especially facially. We've tried content filtering for decades and the problem has only gotten worse.
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Mary Reichard
The Biden administration submitted a friend of the court brief urging that the case be sent back down to the lower courts and there weigh the issues using strict scrutiny. Principal Deputy Solicitor General Brian Fletcher argued that First Amendment protections must be robust. If strict scrutiny does apply. The Texas law fails the test.
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Aaron Nielsen
But that should not prevent Congress or.
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Donald Trump
The states from restricting the distribution of.
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Aaron Nielsen
Pornography to children online, just as states.
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Donald Trump
Have traditionally done it in brick and.
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Aaron Nielsen
Mortar stores and theaters.
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Mary Reichard
All sides agree that the government has a compelling interest to protect kids from harmful material. The bugaboo is how to allow adults access while protecting kids. Justice Elena Kagan worried about that.
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Nick Eicher
Seems to me that there are possible.
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Aaron Nielsen
Spillover dangers either way. One is the spillover danger of you relax strict scrutiny in one place and all of a sudden strict scrutiny gets relaxed in other places. The other is the spillover danger of.
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Nick Eicher
You treat a clearly content based law.
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Aaron Nielsen
As requiring strict scrutiny and all of.
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Nick Eicher
A sudden you start seeing more content based restrictions that don't have to satisfy strict scrutiny. In other words, if the Texas law only affected the rights of children, then rational basis would be enough. Easy. But this one isn't easy because the rights of adults are involved.
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Mary Reichard
Reading the briefs, one in particular caught my eye. It was from an organization called Exodus Cry that works to end sex trafficking. It told the story of a sexual assault nurse examiner, Kansas City, who noticed a horrifying trend among her young victims. They were increasingly being assaulted by other children. This woman, Heidi Olson, reviewed the data from hundreds of child sexual assault cases. The only common risk factor she found was their exposure to pornography. Children were learning how to abuse others by watching it. And that's this week's legal document.
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Ken Covington
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Mary Reichard
Coming up next on THE WORLD and everything in it, the Monday Money beat.
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Nick Eicher
Time now to talk business markets and the economy with financial analyst and advisor David Bonson. David heads up the wealth management firm the Bonson Group, and he joins us now. David, good morning.
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Donald Trump
Well, good morning, Nick. Good to be with you okay, let's.
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Nick Eicher
Begin with the California fires. David, you are a Californian. You have a home there, offices, employees. I am certainly glad to know that you and your people are safe amid all the devastation for so many. That's just so hard to comprehend. That said, I do think enough time has passed, David, that it's appropriate now to have a hard conversation about policy choices. What would you say are the big economic stories where economics applies coming out of this terrible disaster?
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Donald Trump
I think it's three different economic stories. And you are right that we're focusing on the economic stories here, where there's so much more that could be focused on around safety, around, obviously, the human tragedy, and then there's a political bend. And yet I do agree with you. Enough times gone by that there's been room for some rational contemplation of where there's been political failure here. And I think there's quite a bit that said the economic side of it. Takeaway number one is that when the governor of California says on Meet the Press, we need to wave the red tape, we need to bypass coastal commission, we need to make it a lot easier for people to get permits so they can rebuild their houses. Take out for a moment the story of the fire. Take out for a moment the story of people rebuilding. What he just said is what people like me and many others have been saying for years in terms of what is needed to build more houses in California. And he made the concession because he was forced to in the political and emotional moment of all the tragedy here. But it has profound economic admission behind it that the state of California's red tape, the excessive and in some cases lunatic environmental requirements for building and regulation and zoning and permits and approvals are hurting housing. And anytime a politician says, well, we have an emergency, we need to do something because it'll work really well, you should at least ask, is there a reason that we don't make this a default policy? Like, what is the unique thing here that means that this is just an exception to the rule? Why is this not the rule? Because I obviously don't believe we should run around with fire hoses all the time. But we do do that when there's a fire. But see, this is different. This is something he specifically said to the cause of building homes quicker. But that's not fire related in the sense that we before the fire and after the fire need more homes built. So he identified a path to doing so. Why should that not become normative? That's a huge economic principle at play here, Nick.
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Nick Eicher
Yeah. David, you said that there were three big economic questions, the first being housing or housing policy. What about the others?
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Donald Trump
The issue number two in terms of economics. It is one of my ongoing frustrations where Christians have not made understanding economics much of a priority. But this requires us to understand incentives, to understand risk, but most importantly, Nick, to understand unforeseen consequences. It sounds like a good thing to say. We're going to limit how much insurance companies can charge and we're going to make sure that there's certain things they can't do. It sounds like you're helping the insured. But when you take away the ability of insurance companies to manage their own risk and regulate what's called reinsurance, where they're able to sell off some of the risk they have to other insurance companies, it gets a little more complicated financially, but it's very important. And what California did is try to limit what could be charged, mandate what had to be insured, offer a free public option that pushed people out of private insurance, and regulate the way insurance companies could manage their own risk. Everything they did made it almost impossible for there to be a legitimate fire insurance option in California that caused insurance companies to leave the state. And ultimately there is a very predictable consequence that will be borne by the people they were supposedly trying to help. This is not bad politics. It's bad economics. The third issue was going to be about municipal bonds. It's a real big California problem. Voters in California are suckers for muni bond deals. And that has come to play here again. But I'll skip over that one in the interest of time.
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Nick Eicher
Well, David, we have been watching with interest the confirmation hearings on Capitol Hill for the new personnel who will be staffing the Trump administration. I know you took special notice of the hearing for treasury nominee Scott Besant. As I looked in on that, David, I was struck with what I thought was really a masterclass in understanding and explaining economic policy.
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Donald Trump
Well, there was a lot, and I think master class in economics is a great way to put it. You know, it's funny, there was even a little bit of political deft as well in how he avoided certain questions that are just inappropriate. You know, the Treasury Secretary should not not have to answer what he would cut from spending. Congress controls what they want to spend on. So to have Congress people who do control spending asking the Treasury Secretary what he would cut in spending, reverses separation of powers, and he avoided that politically. But economically, he understood the importance of the bond market. He understood the importance of financial markets, not just reflecting what happened in the economy, but giving signals that are helpful in navigating through the economy. It's what we call price discovery. It's a very important concept in a market economy that prices deliver information. And Bessant understands this in a way that very few treasury secretaries, in my opinion, have been able to understand because he is a real student of financial markets, which I believe is important. And certainly he resisted the class warfare issues that were thrown at him. You mentioned Senators Warren and Sanders. So I am bullish on the incoming treasury secretary. There will be a couple things he will say and pivot on a little around tariffs that I don't totally like. But even then I give him a little slack based on the need to appease the boss, if you know what I mean. But I think he's navigating even that with wisdom and grace. And so, so, so far I'm excited and really thought what we saw in the hearing this week should give all of us optimism that we have a good treasury secretary coming in.
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Nick Eicher
Well, David, President Biden gave a parting shot on Thursday night warning of a billionaire oligarchy coming to rule the country, specifically Elon Musk, Jeff Bezos and Mark Zuckerberg. This was music to the ears of Senator Bernie Sanders. Let's have a listen to this, where he tries to get Besant to agree with him.
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Donald Trump
Do you think that when so few people have so much wealth and so much economic and political power that that is an oligarchic form of society?
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Aaron Nielsen
Well, I would note that President Biden gave the Presidential Medal of Freedom to two people who I think would qualify for his oligarchs.
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Donald Trump
So this is not a condemnation of any one individual. I'm just asking you, would so few people have so much wealth and power, do you think that that is an oligarchic form of society?
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Aaron Nielsen
Senator, I think it depends on the ability to move up and down the.
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Donald Trump
No, that's not really the answer. I mean, even if you had that mobility, no matter who those individuals might be.
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Nick Eicher
All right, but let me ask you another question.
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Aaron Nielsen
Yeah.
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Nick Eicher
He just wouldn't budge on this. And I don't think of Scott Besant as a political player in particular, but that was quite the political performance.
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Donald Trump
Well, it was. And again, he didn't come into grandstand ideologically. He was pushed into this by prodding from Senators Sanders and Warren. And he is exactly right that this is something even apart from the politics of it or what Bessen said or what Sanders said. Just for world listeners to really appreciate the difference between an oligarchy and a country that can create self made billionaires who themselves did not come from billionaire families is a very important difference. Now, some people out there may be uncomfortable with the fact that somebody could have a billion dollars, but it is very different when somebody has a billion dollars because their dad had a billion and their grandpa had a billion and their great grandpa had a billion and they have a lot of power in a feudal monarchy that allows them to constantly have a billion dollars going down generation after generation. That is a very different system, isn't it, than where somebody can grow up in a poor home and start Starbucks, okay? Grow up in a poor home and start SpaceX, who can become a very intelligent person and take big risks, make big decisions and benefit from it. And I believe that that is not called an oligarchy, okay? And to the extent anybody out there is worried about an oligarchy, it is when somebody has tremendous wealth as a result of tremendous political power that protects it. Well, I have a solution for that. Don't allow so much political power in the hands of Washington D.C. then you don't have an oligarchy. You don't have people that are wanting to use the levers of power in D.C. to protect their fiscal position. So the argument that is anti oligarchy is the argument Sanders and Warren hate the most, which is to limit the power of Washington D.C. and further embrace the open and free market economy that can allow people to move their station in life. Scott Bessant captured this sentiment. Well, Nick, all right.
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Nick Eicher
David Bonson, founder, managing park partner and chief investment officer of the Bonson Group. David writes@dividendcafe.com and he is here each week. David, have a good one.
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Donald Trump
Thanks so much, Nick.
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Mary Reichard
Today is Monday, January 20th. Thank you for turning to World Radio to help start your day. Good morning, I'm Mary Reichert.
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Nick Eicher
And I'm Nick Eicher. Next up on the World and everything in it, the college football national championship. 25 million people are expected to be watching when the Ohio State Buckeyes and the Notre Dame Fighting Irish battle for the top prize. In years past, the championship game falls earlier in January, but this year The NCAA allowed 12 teams to qualify for the playoffs rather than the usual four. If not for that change, the Buckeyes might have been watching tonight instead of playing.
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Mary Reichard
But the new format isn't the only unique thing about Ohio State season. Several players have made national headlines for their outspokenness about their Christian faith and their on campus evangelism. Last week, while the team geared up for one of its last practices before the big game. World's Maria Baer talked with several of these players.
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G. Scott Jr.
Newer steps up, down the mayor. It's intercepted. Caleb Downs has got it. And Ohio State can start celebrating a third consecutive playoff victory.
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Justice Samuel Alito
When Ohio State clinched their spot in the national championship, star running back Travion Henderson gave an on the field interview right after the game.
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G. Scott Jr.
It feels good, man. I just like, I truly gotta thank him, man.
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Justice Samuel Alito
But he wasn't looking into the camera. He was looking up what he's done.
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G. Scott Jr.
On his team, man, what he's done in my life. Like he laid down his life for every single one of us so we can have life, so we can know the Lord.
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Justice Samuel Alito
This OSU team had a rollercoaster season, but they routinely made headlines for sharing their love of Jesus on and off the field. It started last August when a handful of players led a worship service in the middle of campus.
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Aaron Nielsen
Whatever you're going through in your life, whatever you've been through, I'm telling you.
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Donald Trump
There'S a God that desires you.
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Justice Samuel Alito
The event turned into a mini revival.
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Mary Reichard
Stars like Emeka Buca, G. Scott Jr.
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Aaron Nielsen
And Trey Henderson led thousands of people.
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Mary Reichard
In an Invitation to Jesus event on campus where more than 50 people were baptized.
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Justice Samuel Alito
Football players have been pointing skyward after touchdowns and thanking God for wins since the sport began. But the faith of this year's Ohio State football team seems deeper than gestures or a sports themed prosperity gospel. The team weathered some big setbacks, including a devastating loss to their arch rivals the weekend after Thanksgiving in Ohio. It's the team up north. A loss to the University of Michigan is almost worse than losing a championship. Rumors swirled that OSU's head coach might be fired. But between the ups and downs, Christian believers on the team kept holding Bible studies and praying together. Last week, they prepped for practice at their indoor field house. On a bitterly cold day here in Columbus, Star tight end G. Scott Jr. Said he and his teammates prayed more for wisdom than for victory.
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G. Scott Jr.
I think truly being surrendered to Christ is the ability to, like, be able to sit in some of the things that he has you going through and just say, lord, like, what do you want me to learn from this? Like, in some of the losses that we've had this year. And so that's why we don't place our whole entire priority and our whole entire life in this game. He is, he has a steadfast love that never changes.
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Justice Samuel Alito
For Christian college athletes, the pressure goes beyond the competition. There's the normal social pressure. The college years are notoriously Tough for Christian kids, especially at a secular school like Ohio State. For these football players, there's the added pressures of fame and money. Since 2021, college athletes have had the legal right to earn money off their name, image or likeness. That means players get a check every time their jersey is sold or their face and name is used in a video game. Many OSU players have signed endorsement deals and it's rumored that some have made nearly $5 million. Cornerback Lorenzo Styles Jr. Is a celebrity in his own right. By all accounts, he's headed for a promising career in the National Football League right after college. His father played in the NFL before him. Styles knows it can be a tumultuous.
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Mary Reichard
Job in our sport.
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G. Scott Jr.
Like you have to have a reference.
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Mary Reichard
Point and if your reference points just.
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G. Scott Jr.
Base your just measured on your success on the field, how much nil money you're getting, things of that nature, it's easy to go up and down. So finding that reference point within the Lord has kept his team steady.
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Justice Samuel Alito
And then there's the pressure of the game itself. Football is aggressive and physical, sometimes even between plays. Offensive lineman Luke Montgomery knows that tension well. His job is literally to protect his quarterback with his body.
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G. Scott Jr.
Football at the end of the day, like it is a big time hitting sport and there's a lot of trash talking and stuff like that. You know, I would be, I would be lying too if I told you that. I don't do that sometimes still, but sometimes it comes out of me. But that's when I got brothers beside me to be like, hey, knock it off, you know.
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Justice Samuel Alito
During the Cotton Bowl, Montgomery was that brother beside his teammate Travion Henderson, the star running back who preached the gospel in his post game interview. Henderson was penalized for unsportsmanlike conduct. In the first quarter, he threw a punch at a Texas player in anger.
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Aaron Nielsen
After the whistle, he gets picked up.
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Nick Eicher
Gives a little headbutt and a little.
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Ken Covington
Left hand into the face. Sure, maybe a few things are said.
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Justice Samuel Alito
But Montgomery stepped in.
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G. Scott Jr.
I was right there in his face just telling him, just calm down, you're good, that's not. You get back into the game, play the next play and just worry about us instead of them.
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Justice Samuel Alito
Montgomery and others said their relationship with Jesus influences not just how they play, but why.
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G. Scott Jr.
One of my favorite verses is, do not worry for tomorrow, for tomorrow upon itself. And I think, you know, especially when I say like the unknown just gotta be in the moment and continue to press on.
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Justice Samuel Alito
But don't misunderstand, they still wanna win. Here's tight end G. Scott again.
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G. Scott Jr.
I'm praying that he may receive the glory that he deserves. That's my first prayer and the last thing is to be victorious. I'm not afraid to pray for victory.
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Justice Samuel Alito
You guys gonna win?
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G. Scott Jr.
Yes.
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Justice Samuel Alito
You heard it here first. Reporting for World, I'm Maria Baer in Columbus, OH, I.O.
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Nick Eicher
It'S the world and everything in it for this 20th day of January 2025. We are so glad you've joined us today. Good morning. I'm Nick Eicher.
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Mary Reichard
And I'm Mary Reichard. Well, it's inauguration day. The 20th Amendment to the U.S. constitution specifies the time of day when one executive term of office ends and the next one begins noon Eastern time.
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Nick Eicher
Our country is one where the transition of power is a cause for celebration. But World Opinions contributor John Wilsey reminds us that is not typical.
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Aaron Nielsen
Since the rule of the Roman emperors, transitions of power in the west have generally taken place through heredity, oligarchic election, or civil war. After Augustus established the Roman Empire in 27 BC, succession was a thorny problem because Rome had been a republic for more than five centuries. Most of the emperors in the immediate aftermath of Augustus's death had short reigns and violent deaths because army factions usually were the force behind the rise of new rulers. The Holy Roman Emperor was elected by the German dukes beginning in the 10th century, the Papacy has also been decided by election by the Cardinals. Since the 11th century, the monarchies of Western Europe have been generally ruled by great families. The monarchy of France was held by one family, the Capetians, and branches of their family from 987 to 1848, with a few interludes resulting from the French Revolution and Napoleonic rule. England's ruling families came from further afield, From Normandy in 1066, Scotland, the Netherlands, Germany. Even with hereditary succession, civil wars among rival claimants was common, the most famous of which perhaps being the overthrow and beheading of Charles II in 1649 and the rule of Oliver Cromwell until 1658. In England, after the American Revolution and the drafting of the US Constitution in 1787, the founders were determined not to see the chaos resulting from succession crises threaten union and liberty. Alexander Hamilton wrote in Federalist 1 that the vigor of government is essential to the security of liberty that in the contemplation of a sound and well informed judgment, their interests can never be separated, and that a dangerous ambition more often lurks behind the specious mask of zeal for the rights of the people than under the forbidding appearance of zeal for the firmness and efficiency of a government that means that a government that is just, stable and predictable as necessary. The Constitution provided for a government that was under the law, not above it. It outlined procedures and principles for its functions that were clearly and simply articulated. And it ensured a set of rules and systems that were difficult to change, not impossible, but difficult, so that a government's processes could be knowable, anticipated, and certain. A just, stable and predictable government would be the key to the security of liberty. There's been attention in American history in the lame duck period between election day and inauguration day from 1792 to 1932. March 4th was the day specified for the swearing in of a new president, first by Congress and then by the 12th amendment. John Adams famously did not attend Thomas Jefferson's inauguration in 1801, leaving Washington before dawn on that March 4. Adams could have contested that election, one of the most bitter in our history since it was decided in the House of Representatives. But he set an important precedent of laying down power and letting the constitutional processes take their course. The only time in American history that the minority did not accept the will of the majority in a presidential election was in 1860. Abraham Lincoln received the majority of electoral votes and 11 states seceded from the Union as a result. The spark that lit the powder keg of the Civil War was a presidential succession crisis. Secessionists in the south would not accept the outcome of the 1860 presidential election. But today we will observe the nation's 69th Inauguration Day. Today is a celebration of a uniquely American contribution to civilization, a peaceful transfer of power that is by and large assumed as a matter of course. It's assumed because it is a picture of our constitutional system, just, stable and predictable. When we watch Donald Trump take the oath of office as prescribed in Article 2, Section 1 of the Constitution, we will witness a lawful procedure according to principle and tradition. If we feel gratitude for being Americans as we witness that event, we will be entirely justified. I'm John Wilson.
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Nick Eicher
Tomorrow, a firsthand report of inaugural events and a conversation with super lawyer Paul Clement on what it's like to argue before the Supreme Court. That and more tomorrow. I'm Nick Iger.
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Mary Reichard
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