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1.28.26 A fatal flashpoint in Minneapolis, World Tour, and the government’s $3-per-meal promise
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Lindsay Mast
Good morning. The battle of Minnesota moves to Capitol Hill.
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Benjamin Eicher
We as a congressional group up here strongly opposed the ICE funding this week.
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Nick Eicher
That's ahead today on Washington Wednesday. Hunter Baker is standing by. Also today, world tour and later, balancing nutrition and budget, we try out the government's $3 meal.
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Lindsay Mast
There is a way to do this that actually will save the average consumer Money.
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Nick Eicher
And World Opinion's Daniel Darling celebrates the elder statesman founding father on America's 250th.
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Lindsay Mast
It's Wednesday, January 28th. This is the world and everything in it from listener supported World Radio. I'm Lindsay Mast.
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Nick Eicher
And I'm Nick Eicher. Good morning.
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Lindsay Mast
Up next, Kent Covington with today's news.
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Kent Covington
Minnesota Governor Tim Walz and Minneapolis Mayor Jacob Fry spoke with border czar Tom Homan Tuesday. President Trump has asked Homan to oversee ICE operations there after Border Patrol Commander Gregory Bevino and other agents were polled from Operation Metro Surge. Amid heightened tensions in the Twin Cities area, President Trump said Tuesday, we're going.
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Hunter Baker
To de escalate a little bit, but I will tell you, you look at the numbers, they're doing better than they've done in many years.
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Kent Covington
Two people were killed in separate incidents with federal agents during protests, the governor's office said. Walls reiterated to Tom Homan that he wants impartial investigations into both shootings and a swift reduction in the number of federal forces in Minnesota. Roughly half a million Americans remain without power, many of them in the south, where thick ice, snapped trees and power lines. Crews were working in freezing conditions Tuesday to restore power, with some communities warning it could take days or even more than a week to fully restore electricity. Mississippi Governor Tate Reeves it's somewhat like whack a mole.
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Lindsay Mast
Every time one of the utility companies.
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Benjamin Eicher
And power companies gets a large group back online. We have another tree fall or we.
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Lindsay Mast
Have another limb fall.
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Kent Covington
Officials say at least 30 people were killed in storm related incidents, including exposure to the cold and accidents on icy roads. Russian drone attacks killed at least three people in the southern Ukrainian city of Odessa and injured more than 20 others, including children, according to Ukrainian authorities. More than 50 drones slammed into the city on Tuesday, hitting apartment buildings and knocking out parts of the power grid during bitter winter weather. Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky condemned the strikes and said continued attacks undermined talks aimed at stopping the fighting. He also added, though, that trilateral talks with the US And Russia are moving forward with teams focused on security guarantees and Ukraine's reconstruction. And President Trump remarked, we're looking at.
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Hunter Baker
Submerged things happening on Ukraine and Russia.
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Kent Covington
Another round of talks between US Ukrainian and Russian officials is slated for this weekend in Abu Dhabi at the United Nations. Jewish prayers were offered Tuesday as the world recognized International Holocaust Remembrance Day. That is the day Soviet forces liberated the Nazi concentration camp in Auschwitz 81 years ago. 91 year old survivor Marion Blumenthal Lazin told the assembly.
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Hunter Baker
Each and every one of us must.
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Lindsay Mast
Do everything in our power to prevent.
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Hunter Baker
Such hatred, such destruction and such terror from reoccurring.
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Benjamin Eicher
And we can begin by having love, respect and compassion towards one another, regardless.
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Lindsay Mast
Of the religious belief, color of skin or national origin.
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Kent Covington
Meantime in Israel, Shalom. A crowd cheered in Hostages Square in Tel Aviv. The celebration came as a clock ticking off the time Israeli hostages have been held in Gaza since the October 7 attacks was finally stopped and switched off. The clock was stopped at 843 days, 12 hours and 5 minutes after the remains of the last hostage, Ron Gavili, were returned. The European Union and India have reached a sweeping free trade deal representing roughly a third of global trade. World's Benjamin Iker has more.
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Benjamin Eicher
Leaders say the agreement will open markets between two of the world's largest economies, covering trade that touches nearly 2 billion people. The pact cuts tariffs on most goods, including cars, wine, textiles and medicine. Officials say it will lower costs for businesses, strengthen supply chains and boost jobs on both sides. Some sensitive products such as dairy, sugar and certain meats are excluded. The agreement also goes beyond trade. India and the EU plan closer cooperation on security and defense, along with easier movement for skilled workers and students. The deal still needs legal review and approval in Europe, and if that process stays on track, officials expect it to take effect later this year or early next year. For World I'm Benjamin Eicher.
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Kent Covington
Federal investigators say a deadly mid air collision last year near Washington, D.C. was an unnecessary tragedy. NTSB Chairwoman Jennifer Homendy we should be.
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Lindsay Mast
Angry because for years no one listened. This was preventable. This was 100% preventable.
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Kent Covington
All 67 people aboard an American Airlines jet were killed when an Army Black Hawk helicopter flew onto its flight path. At a public hearing in Washington Tuesday, investigators said warnings about dangerous helicopter routes around Reagan International Airport went unaddressed for more than a decade.
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Lindsay Mast
There were 15,214 close proximity events, 85.
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Benjamin Eicher
Of which were serious over a number of years.
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Kent Covington
The crash remains the deadliest aviation disaster in the US since 2001. Since then, the FAA has moved to separate helicopter and airplane traffic to reduce congestion near the airport. I'm Kent Covington and straight ahead Hunter Baker standing by with Washington Wednesday. Plus balancing nutrition and your budget. This is the World and Everything in It.
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Lindsay Mast
It's Wednesday, the 28th of. Glad to have you along for today's edition of the World and Everything in It. Good morning. I'm Lindsay Mast.
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Nick Eicher
And I'm Nick Icker. Time now for Washington Wednesday. Well, now that a second person has died at the hands of federal agents in Minnesota, Democrats on Capitol Hill are holding up the government funding process just days ahead of another deadline to avoid a partial government shutdown. World's Carolina Lumeta has more from the Capitol.
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Carolina Lumeta
Just five days ago, House Speaker Mike Johnson and Republican appropriators celebrated the passage of the final batch of government funding bills for this fiscal year.
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Nick Eicher
This is a monumental achievement and I think everyone in this room understands what has just been done here.
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Carolina Lumeta
In the past 30 years, Congress has funded the government with massive omnibus bills that bundle appropriations and other measures together. Speaker Johnson has largely made good on his promise to get back to single issue funding bills. And if several months late, six of the 12 appropriations bills have already passed both chambers and been signed into law. The remaining six were sent to the Senate as a minibus last week.
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Nick Eicher
The House has now passed all 12.
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Kent Covington
Appropriations bills and the Senate will soon.
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Nick Eicher
Do the same and the president is going to sign them into law. What a concept, gentlemen.
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Carolina Lumeta
But now one of the bills in that package has become a sticking point. Democratic senators are threatening to block funding for the Department of Homeland Security in response to the actions of Immigration and Customs Enforcement in Minnesota. Here's Minnesota Senator Amy Klobuchar on Sunday.
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Benjamin Eicher
As members of Congress, we are calling on this administration to get ICE out of our towns, off of our streets. It will make us more safe. We, as a congressional group up here, strongly opposed the ICE funding this week.
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Carolina Lumeta
Denying that funding would affect other DHS agencies, including FEMA and tsa. Back in the House, lawmakers from both parties rejected the White House's request to increase DHS funding from $64 billion to $175 billion. Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer announced on social media over the weekend that Senate Democrats have enough votes to block the entire bill, but that would not necessarily freeze ICE out of funding. The big beautiful bill passed last year already gave ICE nearly $20 billion per year for the next 44 years. White House Press Secretary Caroline Levitt said Monday that the president wants to see all the bills passed this week, including the DHS compromise. At this point, the White House supports the bipartisan work that was done to advance the bipartisan appropriations package and we want to see that passed policy discussions on immigration in Minnesota are happening. For their part, Republicans are also expressing concern. The chairs of both the House and Senate Homeland Security committees have demanded immediate hearings with officials, officials from dhs, ice, Citizen and Immigration Services, and Customs and Border Protection. DHS Secretary Kristi Noem is scheduled to testify before the Senate Judiciary Committee in March. If the Senate changes anything in the appropriations bills this week, the House will have to vote again on the revised bill. And it is out of session until Monday. If Senate Majority Leader John Thune agrees to split the minibus into six pieces. And Democrats have said they will vote to pass everything but DHS funding. Reporting for world, I'm Carolina Lumeta.
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Lindsay Mast
Joining us now to talk more about it is political scientist Hunter Baker. He is a World Opinions contributor. Good morning, Hunter.
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Hunter Baker
Good morning.
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Lindsay Mast
Well, Hunter, the fight over DHS funding is clearly not settled. How do you see this shaking out? And does it even matter, given that ICE has money from the big beautiful bill from last year?
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Hunter Baker
I think it's less about having the money to operate than it is about the opportunity for sort of a showdown in the Senate. I think the Democrats were deeply unsatisfied, especially the base, with the way the last shutdown ended, not really extracting any concessions. And now here is the real opportunity. Now, in the normal course of events, I would have guessed that this might go through more smoothly. But now you've had real political theater with devastating consequences in Minneapolis. And with two people dying, it's a perfect opportunity for Democrats in the Senate to say, we're not gonna pass the DHS budget unless we have some sort of clear oversight. We rewrite the law, we change the operating procedures, something. So they've got a lot of political wind behind them. And I'm not sure the Republicans will be able to just say, no, we're going through with a whole package or nothing.
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Nick Eicher
Now, we're gonna leave some time to talk more about Minneapolis. But we did also hear in Carolina's report that what the House accomplished is pretty significant historically. So at least in recent years, maybe it's just a big sign of the dysfunction that we've been living with. But the fact is that the House actually passed every appropriations bill for the first time in three decades. So we're talking this goes back to the Bill Clinton administration with Newt Gingrich as Speaker of the House. This is significant, is it not, Hunter?
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Hunter Baker
It's a very impressive achievement by the speaker of the House, Mike Johnson, especially given the ultra slender majority with which he is operating. I mean, there's just, just tremendous discipline. It's really good work to some extent. A shame that it's going to prove to be a lot rockier ground in the Senate. But I do want to say I think that the House should be congratulated for this good work, and I hope it's a sign of returning to the more traditional kind of budgetary order that we've had in the past.
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Lindsay Mast
Well, turning back to Minnesota, Hunter, a federal judge there has ordered the acting head of ICE to appear in court personally this week to explain why he should not be held in contempt. Judge Patrick Schiltz says ICE has repeatedly violated court orders tied to the administration's immigration surge in Minnesota. He's called the extent of those violations extraordinary, and he's warning that the court's patience has run out. The order comes amid a flood of cases tied to federal immigration enforcement that includes challenges over detainee transfers, evidence preservation, and whether the federal presence itself, itself has crossed constitutional lines. So just one more major development in this incredibly tense standoff between the Trump administration and state and local officials there in Minnesota. Where do you see things standing at this moment, Hunter?
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Hunter Baker
I'm not on the inside of ice, so I have to try to look at the situation and figure out what's going on. Now, the word that you use that I would focus on is flood, a flood of cases. I think that when you're dealing with the incredibly huge number of people who have come over the border and the number who may appeal to the right of due process in the course of resisting deportation is very large. And so I would not be surprised if the agency and its leadership is overwhelmed with all that they're trying to manage and deal with, not only on the sort of legal court side of things, but also with regard to these large scale actions in places like Minneapolis. So I suspect that they're not just being recalcitrant, but they may actually to some degree be overwhelmed.
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Nick Eicher
I do want to pick up on that word overwhelm, though, Hunter, because I think that's what we're seeing at the White House, certainly a rattled White House making these dramatic personnel changes on the immigration issue. Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem, she's been pulled off the day to day oversight of the operation Border czar and former ICE Director Tom Homan is now effectively in charge on the ground. Homan reporting directly to the president, even though Kristi Noem is his boss. That is very significant. But you could kind of feel the ground shifting, days of clashes between federal agents and protesters and Again, that second fatal shooting, not to mention what we just talked about with the federal judge. So, Hunter, how much trouble do you think Kristi Noem is in at Homeland Security? And, you know, to be fair to her, is she just being set up here to be the administration's fall guy or fall girl here?
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Hunter Baker
Well, there's political theater and there's governmental effectiveness. And I think that both of those things are coming together with regard to this situation. So on the one hand, when things go badly, the public expects accountability. They expect, you know, somebody to pay a price. And in this case, I think it's Kristi Noem and maybe those who are tightly tied to her and at the same time showing that he's doing something about it. Trump is putting Tom Homan in charge. And I think that not only is that kind of a good symbolic move for the public, but I think it's actually a good move in terms of just operating effectiveness. Homan has a long record of doing really well with the border and immigration, did well in the Obama administration, has done well with Trump and has ascended to this role. And I think it's good that he's in charge. And the other thing I want to say is we've seen a report in the Wall Street Journal that there's been a divide between Homan and Noem and maybe Stephen Miller over what's the right approach. Homan has favored going after those with criminal records, whereas Miller and Noem have been more interested in these kind of large scale actions. Well, now that things have gone badly in Minneapolis, it strengthened Homan's hand, and I think we're gonna move more in that direction of going after criminals, which I think is gonna be more popular with the public at large.
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Lindsay Mast
Well, Hunter, I wanna go back to the clashes Nick referenced a minute ago. The president had suggested recently he could use the Insurrection act in Minnesota, allowing him to use the military or National Guard in law enforcement. Now, I know you don't fight favor that we've talked about it before, because it would likely only increase tensions in a very tense situation to begin with. But go with me here for a second. Minnesota stands out for just how vehemently protesters have interacted with federal law enforcement. So I still can't help but wonder, if the federal officers move out, doesn't that reward this violent resistance?
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Hunter Baker
Yeah, and I think that's something that's worth worrying about. I think that a lot of people in Minneapolis, people in responsible positions, have acted quite badly. I think that the governor has acted badly. I think that a number of other elected officials have acted badly. I think that the governor referring to the Gestapo and comparing this situation to the case of Anne Frank, who died in the Holocaust, is completely out of bounds and in poor taste and inflaming people. So I think that all of that is bad. And then on top of that, yeah, let's talk about the Insurrection Act. If you go back and you look at it, one of the clear elements within the law has to do with combinations of people who are acting to prevent the enforcement of federal law. That's happening. We've seen that. We've heard about kind of the signal chats and the coordination. And this is not just simple protest. There has been intimidation and confrontation. So legally, I think that the definition is there. I think that somebody could act on that. But you have to have the support of the public when it comes to carrying out your agenda. And I am worried that if the Trump administration sort of invoked the Insurrection act and started prosecuting people, that things would actually get worse rather than better. You want to keep your base, but you always have to worry about the people in the middle as well. And the people in the middle are the people who are alarmed by actions that they think are too extreme or if the tone is wrong or things like that. That's not just squishiness. When we talk about things like that, that's where we start talking about winning or losing. And we need to always remember that politics has to do with winning, not losing.
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Lindsay Mast
Well, Hunter Baker is a world Opinions contributor and provost at North Greenville University. Thank you so much, Hunter.
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Hunter Baker
Thank you.
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Kent Covington
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Nick Eicher
Dort Edu Coming up next on the World and Everything in IT world tour with our reporter in Africa, Onise Adua.
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Benjamin Eicher
We start today in Nigeria, where US officials are sending equipment and intelligence support to back the battle against an ongoing Islamist insurgency. Lieutenant General John Brennan is the deputy commander of the United States Africa Command.
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Kent Covington
It's the whole gamut of intel sharing, sharing TTPs, tactics, techniques and procedures, as.
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Benjamin Eicher
Well as enabling them to procure more.
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Nick Eicher
Equipment, the right equipment that will be.
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Kent Covington
The most effective against ISIS and other veos.
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Benjamin Eicher
Brennan's comments come after US and Nigerian officials last week held the first meeting of their joint working group in the capital city of Abuja. He said US Cooperation with Nigeria is part of a larger effort to to squash operations of insurgents affiliated with the Islamic State.
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Kent Covington
So from Somalia to Nigeria, the problem sets connected.
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Nick Eicher
And so we're trying to take it apart and then provide partners with the information they need to go do counterterrorism operations. And so it's been about more enabling partners and then providing them equipment and capabilities with less restrictions so that they can be more successful.
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Benjamin Eicher
The US launched airstrikes in northwest Nigeria on Christmas Day, Brennan said the strikes targeted operations of the Islamic State in the region next to Iran, where a government crackdown on protests is still playing out. On Sunday, Iranian authorities unveiled a mural in a Tehran square as a direct warning against any US intervention. The image of a bloodied deck of an aircraft carrier comes as US Warships head to the region. US President Donald Trump has warned Iran that he will resort to military force if Iran continues to kill protesters or execute those arrested. Asmael Baghei is Iran's Foreign Ministry spokesman. He says here that the warship's arrival will not shake Iran's will and capability to defend itself. The Iran backed Hezbollah insurgent group has said it is preparing for a possible US Attack on Iran, but shied away from saying if it planned to intervene. Iranian authorities have said more than 3,000 people have died since anti government protests began in December, but a rights group has said the actual toll is more than double that number. More than 41,000 others have been arrested. Over in Israel, protesters crowded the streets of Tel Aviv on Saturday for a weekly rally against Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's administration. Demonstrators voiced concern over the protracted Gaza war that began more than two years ago. Iran Kamen is a former head of the police investigation division. He accuses Netanyahu of failing to take responsibility for the country's situation. The protest came after Netanyahu met with US Envoy Steve Witkoff and Jared Kushner earlier on Saturday. On Monday, Israel received the remains of an Israeli police sergeant. He was the last of the Israeli hostages still in Gaza. Netanyahu on Tuesday said Israel will reopen Gaza's border crossing with Egypt after nearly two years of closure. We wrap up in Japan, where families paid their final visits to twin pandas at Tokyo's Ueno Zoo before they returned to China yesterday. China sent pandas to Japan for the first time in 1972 as a sign of warming diplomatic relations. The end of the latest lease comes as current relations between the two countries have grown increasingly tense. China has limited tourism to Japan since Japanese Prime Minister Senei Takaichi in November said the military could intervene if China acts against Taiwan. Tokyo resident Sachiko Ishizaki visited the pandas on Sunday. She says the zoo will feel strange without the pandas present. China has continued to lease out pandas to other countries but retains ownership over them and any of their cubs. This marks the first time in half a century that Japan has no panda. That's this week's world tour. I'm Onize Odua in Abuja, Nigeria.
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Nick Eicher
Rhode island is debating whether it's time to mash Mr. Potato Head. Parent company Hasbro is moving its headquarters out to Boston. And state lawmakers are looking at getting rid of the Mr. Potato Head specialty license plate.
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Daniel Darling
We did them a favor by doing.
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Hunter Baker
It in the first place. They've left, so it's time to end the favor.
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Nick Eicher
Brian Newberry is a Republican state rep. But not so fast. Supporters of the plate say that would hurt the Rhode Island Community Food bank, which gets half the proceeds. Newberry points out, though, that over the plate's 24 year run, it's raised not even 60. Total about 2,500 a year on average. An impact he says is easily absorbed.
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Hunter Baker
They can make donations to the food bank.
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Nick Eicher
Right. And when you cut the middleman out, it's more for charity. Even if the middleman is the beloved Mr. Potato Head. It's the world and everything in it. Today is Wednesday, January 20th on the 28th. Thank you for turning to World Radio to help start your day. Good morning, I'm Nick Iger.
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Lindsay Mast
And I'm Lindsay Mast. Coming next on THE World and everything in it. $3 dining. Shortly after the US Food and Drug Administration released its new high protein whole food centric dietary guidelines, Secretary of Agriculture Brooke Rawlins spoke on News Nation about the guidelines and grocery prices. We've run over a thousand simulations. It can cost around $3ameal for a piece of chicken, a piece of broccoli, you know, corn tortilla and one other thing. And so there is a way to do this that actually will save the average American consumer money.
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Nick Eicher
Well, that set off critics on social media.
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Hunter Baker
Please tell me what the something else is. Tell me what it is.
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Lindsay Mast
Brooke. This is not enough food.
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Nick Eicher
Some question the amount of food. Others couldn't seem to wrap their heads around the per serving prices.
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Hunter Baker
Here I've got three chicken breast and these are 14.54.
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Kent Covington
So that's well over my $3. So we're already in trouble.
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Hunter Baker
Brooke, you find these corn tortillas and they're $3.07.
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Benjamin Eicher
So then they're also over my $3.
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Hunter Baker
Brooke, I'm having a hard time doing this.
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Lindsay Mast
So what does it take to make a three dollar meal these days? World went to the store to Find out. I shopped for groceries just outside Atlanta at one of those stores where you rent your cart for a quarter. Assistant producer Emma Eicher shopped in Pittsburgh.
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Benjamin Eicher
Corn tortillas. These are just the same size flour tortillas and they're cheaper.
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Lindsay Mast
In a suburb of St. Louis, Missouri. Features editor Kristin Flavin.
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Benjamin Eicher
We are about to pack up and go to Dierberg's because they seem to have a better selection of gluten free things.
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Lindsay Mast
So we're here at the giant Washington. Producer Harrison Waters took along his wife Naomi.
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Benjamin Eicher
Times 16 equals 40 ounces.
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Lindsay Mast
Making a $3 dinner meant doing math in the meat aisle equals 1313 portions.
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Benjamin Eicher
11.39 for all the groceries. So we'll see how that shakes out into each portion.
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Lindsay Mast
Next, cooking it up.
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Benjamin Eicher
I like to roast my broccoli, so I'm gonna go ahead and turn on the oven. So 2 ounces is about half a cup of cheese. We're up to $1.32 in this pan and I honestly, I'm gonna put a little bit of butter on it.
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Lindsay Mast
We met up afterward to talk about it. All right, Emma, what did you make?
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Benjamin Eicher
I made a flour tortilla taco with cheese as my dairy and chicken just.
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Lindsay Mast
Pan seared $3.07 for that plate. Here's Kristen.
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Benjamin Eicher
I made a chicken quesadilla with a hefty side of broccoli.
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Lindsay Mast
So your one extra thing was Mexican style cheese. She went over the per meal budget at $3.71. That's more than 20%.
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Benjamin Eicher
I was kind of flying by the.
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Carolina Lumeta
Seat of my pants and just getting.
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Benjamin Eicher
What I would normally get if I was buying those ingredients.
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Lindsay Mast
Harrison Waters got creative with his vegetables to make the math work.
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Benjamin Eicher
We ended up going for kale instead of broccoli and we're able to get an additional onion with that savings and we're able to clock it in at under $3.
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Lindsay Mast
My Greek inspired plate with tzatziki, hummus and cucumber came out to $2.93. So it seems like the $3 plate is possible, but shoppers will initially put out more than that at the store. And we'd need to eat the rest of the food purchased to make the math work. Most food isn't sold in servings as small. As Rollins mentioned.
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Benjamin Eicher
If you want to pay $3 per serving, you're going to have to get a lot more of the ingredient, like $20, $25 worth of ingredients in order to get a $3 portion.
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Lindsay Mast
But you don't necessarily have to buy in bulk either. That surprised Emma.
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Benjamin Eicher
I bought two chicken breasts and then I bought a ten count of tortillas. One thing of cheese and then two small crowns of broccoli and it still evened out to $3.
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Lindsay Mast
But we had some questions too, like how the budget would work if you wanted to buy say steak or fish. Another question, how filling is it? All of us said we could have eaten more depending on the something extra. The calories on the meals ran anywhere from just under 600 to about 800. Harrison I think I got to about.
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Benjamin Eicher
80% full eating that. But I definitely did do a follow up cheese quesadilla.
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Lindsay Mast
A possible budget blower. Cost isn't the only factor to consider. Accessibility matters too. Census data from 2019 shows nearly 19 million Americans live in low income areas with little to no access to a supermarket. That's roughly 5% of the population. Rollins Again, that's what we have to focus on, especially for our, again, most vulnerable Americans who don't have a big grocery store a block from their house. They she highlighted the administration's actions to require convenience stores to stock more groceries in order to keep participating in the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program or snap. So you'll begin to see that aperture open up with more healthy foods available, especially for those with the least among us that can serve about $3ameal for that healthy meal for their kids. For those with easy access and plenty of money though, the question can become how much is enough?
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Benjamin Eicher
My daughter, her line is, what are you eating?
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Carolina Lumeta
Can I have some?
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Benjamin Eicher
And it doesn't matter if she's actually hungry. She just wants to eat what's in front of her at that moment. And so there's been a lot of conversations that we've had just in terms of not wasting and being good stewards of the food that we have and the resources that God has given us. I just think that this was a good exercise of being really mindful of looking at the price tag and saying.
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Carolina Lumeta
You know, how much am I willing to spend?
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Lindsay Mast
Good morning. This is the world and everything in it. From listener supported World Radio, I'm Lindsay Mast.
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Nick Eicher
And I'm Nick Icker. As the nation looks ahead to its 250th anniversary, one founder's voice still echoes across the centuries. An elder statesman at the birth of the Republic, he helped to invent modern America and warned it could not survive on human ingenuity alone.
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Lindsay Mast
World opinions commentator Daniel Darling looks back at Benjamin Franklin, his unfinished faith and his enduring belief that God governs in the affairs of men.
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Daniel Darling
Franklin had just two years of formal schooling, but he became a polymath. He made his first mark as a writer, publishing under the pseudonym Silence Dogood. He later founded the Pennsylvania Gazette and produced Poor Richard's Almanac, still read nearly three centuries later. By his early 40s, Franklin had earned enough from printing to retire. Then he got busy. He invented the lightning rod and bifocals. He helped found America's first lending library, its first fire department, and the University of Pennsylvania. He improved colonial mail service. And through it all, Franklin showed a relentless curiosity about how the world works and how societies hold together. That curiosity shaped his moral outlook, too. Former Secretary of State Tony Blinken once summed it up this way, quoting Franklin.
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Nick Eicher
Himself, no one knew better than Mr.
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Hunter Baker
Franklin the power of personal engagement, relationship.
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Kent Covington
Building, and simply having a good time together. As he said, and I quote, be.
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Hunter Baker
At war with your vices, at peace with your neighbors, and let every new.
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Kent Covington
Year find you a better person.
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Daniel Darling
But Franklin's most enduring work was not his inventions. It was the country he helped bring into being. He served on the drafting committee for the Declaration of Independence and helped shape its language. And he understood the danger. In a White House dramatization of the period, Franklin puts it plainly, nothing compared.
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Nick Eicher
To the moment when I sign my name to our Declaration of Independence, knowing full well it might be my death warrant. We must all hang together, or we shall most assuredly hang separately, I quipped.
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Daniel Darling
That line may be apocryphal, but the risk was not. Franklin was older than most of the Founders, a steady, seasoned presence. During the Revolution, his diplomacy helped secure vital support from France, and at the Constitutional Convention, he often acted as a mediator when tempers flared and progress stalled. Franklin grew up in a Christian home, but sadly, he never fully embraced the faith of his parents. He was a friend of evangelist George Whitefield, attended his sermons, and even published them. But Franklin never trusted in Christ's finished work, the grace that forgives sin and transforms the heart. Still, Franklin understood something essential. He understood providence. Late in the Constitutional Convention, after days of deadlock, the aging founder rose and reminded his colleagues that nations do not rise by human effort alone. One dramatization captures his plea.
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Hunter Baker
How has it happened that we have forgotten to humbly implore the Father of Lights to illuminate our understanding? During the late contests with Great Britain, we many times offered prayers for help in this very room. And our prayers were heard, and they were graciously answered. The longer I live, the more convincing proofs I see of this truth that God governs in the affairs of men. If a sparrow cannot fall without his notice, is it probable that a great nation can rise without his aid?
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Daniel Darling
Franklin was right. After the Constitution was completed, Franklin was asked what the delegates had created. US Senator Rand Paul later recounted the exchange this way.
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Nick Eicher
When Franklin walked out of the Constitutional.
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Kent Covington
Convention, a woman asked him, what have you brought us? Was it going to be a republic, a democracy?
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Nick Eicher
A monarchy? And he said, a republic if you can keep it.
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Daniel Darling
We have kept it for two and a half centuries. Let us pray by God's strength that we keep it for the next 250 years as well. For world I'm Daniel Darling.
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Lindsay Mast
Tomorrow, can the board of Peace stabilize Gaza? We'll have a report and pro life groups look for ways to serve the online generation. That and more tomorrow. I'm Lindsay Mast.
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Nick Eicher
And I'm Nick Icar. The world and everything in it comes to you from World Radio. World's mission is biblically objective journalism that informs, educates and inspires. The Bible says. At that time, the disciples came to Jesus, saying, who is the greatest in the kingdom of heaven? And calling to him a child. He put him in the midst of them and said, truly, I say to you, unless you turn and become like children, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven. Whoever humbles himself like this child is the greatest in the kingdom of heaven. Matthew, chapter 18, verses 1 through 4. Go now in grace and peace.