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2.13.25 Removing the Department of Education, purging federal employees, and remembering songs of love and longing
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Mary Reichard
Good morning. President Donald Trump wants to return education to the states. If the Department of Education goes away, what about the most vulnerable students?
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Lindsay Mast
I don't think that ultimately education for people with disabilities is going to be considered waste once they look at everything.
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Kent Covington
Also efforts to streamline the federal government workforce.
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Lindsay Mast
No one is saying that the president can't do that. They're just asking the president to check in with Congress.
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Kent Covington
And Bob Case brings us love songs from the Great American Songbook. Plus, World contributor Cal Thomas puts in his two cents about the penny.
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Mary Reichard
It's Thursday, February 13th. This is the world and everything in it from listener supported World Radio. I'm Mary Reichert.
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Kent Covington
And I'm Lindsay Mast. Good morning.
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Mary Reichard
Time for the news now with Kent Covington.
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Kristin Flavin
President Trump says Russia's Vladimir Putin is ready to talk peace. Trump said he had a lengthy phone conversation with Putin about ending the war in Ukraine.
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Paul Butler
He wants it to end and as President Putin said that he wants it to end, he doesn't want to end it and then go back to fighting six months later. We talked about the possibility, I mentioned it, of a cease fire so we can stop the killing. And I think we'll probably end up at some point getting a ceasefire in the not too distant future.
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Kristin Flavin
Trump also spoke yesterday with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy who said he was thankful.
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Lindsay Mast
To the president, to his message that.
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Kristin Flavin
He will support Ukraine and he really.
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Paul Butler
Wants to stop this war.
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Lindsay Mast
And I know that he's a strong.
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Paul Butler
Man and I'm sure that he will push Putin.
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Kristin Flavin
Hundreds of thousands of people have died and nearly a million more wounded since Russia launched its full scale invasion of Ukraine three years ago. But what might a peace deal to end the war look like? Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth provided some clues on Wednesday.
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Paul Butler
We must start by recognizing that returning.
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Kristin Flavin
To Ukraine's pre2014 borders is an unrealistic objective. Hegseth spoke from Belgium as he met with leaders from NATO allied nations and the Ukraine Defense Contact Group. His remarks indicate that any peace deal likely would not require Russia to pull out of the Crimean Peninsula, which it invaded and annexed in 2014. And Hegseth added, the United States does.
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Bob Case
Not believe that NATO membership for Ukraine.
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Paul Butler
Is a realistic outcome of a negotiated settlement.
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Kristin Flavin
He went on to say that a durable peace must include security guarantees, possibly to be backed up by a peacekeeping force in Ukraine on a non NATO mission. But he said any such force would not include American troops. A federal judge has cleared the way for President Trump's plan to downsize the federal workforce World's Kristin Flavin has more.
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Lindsay Mast
The ruling surrounds the Trump administration's so called fork in the road federal employee buyout program. The administration made an offer to some 2 million federal employees. They can quit now and will still be paid through the end of September. U.S. district Judge George O'Toole Jr. On Wednesday found that the labor unions that sued didn't have legal standing to challenge the program. The White House says well over 60,000 federal employees have already accepted the offer. For World, I'm Kristen Flavin.
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Kristin Flavin
US Inflation ticked up last month as the cost of groceries and gasoline rose once again. The Labor Department reports that from December to January inflation rose from 2.9 to an even 3%. The January numbers continue a months long upward trend. Inflation has increased each month since October. On Capitol Hill Wednesday, the Senate voted down party lines to confirm Tulsi Gabbard as Director of national intelligence. Yeas are 52, nays are 48.
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Paul Butler
Nomination is confirmed.
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Kristin Flavin
She ultimately overcame reservations of some Republicans over things like her past remarks, seemingly in support of government leaker Edward Snowden. Gabbard is a former Democratic congresswoman and an Iraq war veteran. In the UK A big legal victory for a Christian former school employee who was fired for speaking out about her belief on her own personal Facebook page. A British appeals court is siding with Kristi Higgs six years after she was fired from her job as a pastoral assistant.
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Lindsay Mast
This is not just about me. Too many Christians have suffered discipline or marginalization at their work because of their Christian faith.
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Kristin Flavin
The farmer's school in Gloucestershire terminated her after an anonymous person reported two of her Facebook posts as being supposedly homophobic and transphobic. That came after she shared concerns about pro LGBT ideologies being taught at a Church of England school her son attended. A three judge panel on Wednesday said Higgs statements and beliefs were protected by the Equality Act. I'm Kent Covington. And straight ahead, possible cuts to the Department of Education. This is the world and everything in it.
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Mary Reichard
It's Thursday the 13th of February. This is World radio and we thank you for listening. Good morning, I'm Mary Reichard.
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Kent Covington
And I'm Lindsay Master up first dismantling the U.S. department of Education. President Donald Trump says he intends to do just that. So how will families with children in public schools be affected, if at all? World's Anna Johansson Brown brings us the story. Like many nine year olds, Sylvia Diggle loves spending time with her friends, dancing and eating French fries. But as a student at Southbury elementary in Oswego, Illinois, she has more teachers than Most children her age have, like at Christmas.
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Lindsay Mast
When we think about sending gifts to her teachers, we have to send them to like 20 people. It's like an army of people that serve her.
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Kent Covington
Linnea Diggle says her daughter has Mosaic down syndrome, which is a milder form of the chromosomal disorder.
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Lindsay Mast
She does struggle with speech. It's hard to understand her sometimes. So she gets a lot of help with speech at school and that would be, that would be a big loss if that ever got threatened.
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Kent Covington
Some public school funding for students with disabilities comes from the US Department of Education. After reports surfaced that the agency could be shut down, members of Congress made speeches outside the department's headquarters in Washington. New York Representative John Manion, the parents.
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Paul Butler
Of the children that require individualized services in a public school setting.
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Bob Case
They want answers.
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Kent Covington
Lawmakers like Mannion and mainstream media outlets have been quick to point out that disadvantaged and disabled students could stand to lose important programs. But that's not necessarily true.
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Paul Butler
It's unlikely that they're going to get.
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Lindsay Mast
Rid of these things. They would again have to convince Congress.
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Bob Case
To cut funding for students with disabilities.
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Lindsay Mast
Or for disadvantaged kids. That is highly unlikely to happen because it's hugely unpopular.
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Kent Covington
Mike Petrilli is the president of the Thomas B. Fordham Institute, a conservative leaning think tank that specializes in education policy.
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Lindsay Mast
But I think they will, they will put out an executive order.
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Kent Covington
If that comes. It will likely follow the Senate's confirmation of Trump's pick for education secretary, Linda McMahon today.
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Paul Butler
I believe strongly in school choice, but in addition to that, I want the states to run schools and I want Linda to put herself out of a job.
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Kent Covington
The Department of Education is involved in much more than programs for students with disabilities. Roughly 66% of its $103 billion budget goes to loan programs and civil rights enforcement. At the college level, 20 billion funds elementary and secondary education for low income students and students with disabilities. But for the most part, the federal government only provides a small fraction of funding for local schools.
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Lindsay Mast
And what most people don't understand is that each state only receives on average about 10% of their education budget from the federal government. So while it might be large in dollars, percentage wise, it's not.
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Kent Covington
Sheri Few is president of US Parents Involved in Education. It's an organization that has advocated for eliminating the Department of Education for over a decade. Conservatives have criticized the agency ever since President Jimmy Carter established it as a cabinet level agency in 1979.
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Lindsay Mast
And the very next President Ronald Reagan said that he was going to close the Department of Education. Unfortunately, he did not complete that task. But I have heard elected officials and candidates state this is a part of their platform for many years.
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Kent Covington
Few says there are several problems with the Department of Education, starting with the fact that it provides loans to college students.
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Lindsay Mast
So that's why our country is on such a is in such a huge debt situation with unpaid college loans, because anybody can get them. They don't necessarily have to pay them back.
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Kent Covington
According to Few, distributing funds gives the government leverage over what's taught in schools across all grade levels, even though it's not technically in charge of curriculum, like when the Biden administration introduced changes to Title IX of the Civil Rights act and expanded the definition of sex to include gender.
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Lindsay Mast
But that's the way the federal government has been used as a hammer to force states into complying with their education agenda.
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Kent Covington
Few is confident that getting rid of the Department of Education is possible by transferring programs to other agencies and sending funding right to the states via block grants.
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Lindsay Mast
So it'll be far more efficient than citizens sending their money to the federal government. They siphon off the majority of it for their huge bureaucracy and then and pennies back to the states.
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Kent Covington
Mike Petrilli isn't so sure that eliminating the bureaucracy is possible.
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Lindsay Mast
There's really these two different questions, right? One is, what do you do with the programs, the policy, the funding? Does that stay or does that go? And then there's a second question, which is where should all of that live?
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Kent Covington
He says an executive order alone won't answer these questions.
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Lindsay Mast
It has to work through Congress to make these big changes, and I think that'll be very difficult to do.
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Kent Covington
Even if a shutdown doesn't get the green light from Congress, it's likely the Department of Education will experience budget and staffing cuts, and certain internal agencies could be relocated. Some of that is already happening. On Monday, the Department of education terminated almost $1 billion worth of grants and research contracts, some related to diversity, equity and inclusion initiatives. Still, Petrilli doesn't anticipate a complete dismantling in the near future. He's not sure that Trump does either.
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Lindsay Mast
I think the point is that President Trump promised on the campaign trail to get rid of the Department of Education.
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Kristin Flavin
He has to show that he's at.
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Lindsay Mast
Least trying so that they can check that box and say that they gave it their all. And in the end, I think the Department of Education will still be here four years from now.
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Kent Covington
Still, some families are concerned about the future of public school education. The Diggles aren't worried. For Sylvia's sake.
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Lindsay Mast
I don't think that ultimately, like, education for people with disabilities is going to be considered waste once they really, like.
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Kent Covington
Look at everything, but they're trusting the Lord either way.
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Lindsay Mast
I kind of feel like it's like, you know, when you go through the airport security and they like pull you over and check on you, you could be mad because you're innocent and they're checking on you. Or you could just be glad to be part of a country that's trying to keep you safe. Right? So, like, we could be upset if her services get affected, or we could just be glad that the government is trying to figure out how to do it better.
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Kent Covington
Reporting for world, I'm Anna Johansen Brown. Now from department shutdowns to federal worker buyouts on January 20, President Trump made an appeal to more than 2 million federal employees resign and still be paid through September. The administration says that about 60,000 workers have taken him up on the offer so far.
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Mary Reichard
Late last week, a federal judge blocked the plan after labor unions representing federal employees filed for an injunction. But yesterday, that judge said that the resignation program for federal workers could proceed, ruling that the unions did not have proper standing. World's Mary Muncie reported this story, but is still under the weather. So here's Paul Butler with her report.
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Bob Case
This week, President Donald Trump told reporters that his federal employee buyout plan has two goals.
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Paul Butler
First, what we're trying to do is reduce government. We have too many people.
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Bob Case
And second, to encourage workers to return to the office.
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Paul Butler
We have office space. It's occupied by 4%, nobody showing up to work because they were told not to.
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Bob Case
Those who don't return may find their employment terminated. According to the Bureau of Labor statistics, since 2020, the number of federal employees has increased from 2.8 million to over 3 million. For years, job reports have been bolstered by the number of new government hires across the board. Since the 1950s, the federal government has grown by about a third, though the US Population more than doubled during that same time. President Trump says he has a mandate to significantly reduce the federal workforce. Over the past few weeks, he shut down. Usaid, asked people in the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau and with roles in diversity, equity and inclusion not to come to work. And he signed an executive order limiting federal hiring.
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Paul Butler
They're getting a good deal.
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Bob Case
They're getting a big buyout, but not everyone agrees that they're getting a good deal.
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Lindsay Mast
They've been asked to sign an agreement that is unclear, does not provide any guidance for them, and there's no guarantees for it.
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Bob Case
Doreen Greenwood is the National Treasury Employees Union president representing many federal employees. She's encouraging workers to decline the offer. Among her reasons? Well, there's been very little guidance about what will happen to the services the employees provide.
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Lindsay Mast
Nobody has taken the work away. Nobody has said what will happen to the services that the American people depend.
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Bob Case
She also believes that the White House is sending mixed messages. For instance, IRS employees got a letter last week after the initial buyout offer saying their resignation terms wouldn't kick in until after the 2025 tax filing season, indicating that perhaps the IRS agents in question provide a critical service and should stick around. Now. There's always turnover and realign priorities with a new administration, but does it usually affect this many people?
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Lindsay Mast
This approach of tons of firings within a very short span is not typical.
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Bob Case
Nicole Anslover is a professor of history at Florida Atlantic University. She specializes in the modern presidency.
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Lindsay Mast
And even for agencies that have been ordered to pause their work, that also certainly has happened in the past. But again, that's after months of study, months of getting feedback from Congress and all of those sorts of things.
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Bob Case
The White House is doing more than offering buyouts. They're also shutting down whole departments and cutting federal employees from both sides of the aisle. Anslever says the FBI, the Treasury Department and the Justice Department usually have some change in personnel and staffing, but there's normally a longer transition period and feedback from Congress.
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Lindsay Mast
What we're hearing out of President Trump's second term is that people are getting emails that say you are fired effectively immediately. And that's very not typical.
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Bob Case
The president usually appoints about 4000 people, 1200 of which have to be confirmed by the Senate. Most of those are top and mid level employees. Positions changed out almost every administration. Then there are the lower level employees. They're usually regarded as apolitical and as such are protected by law.
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Kristin Flavin
They are protected from firing and so.
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Lindsay Mast
On in order to better administer what the government does.
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Bob Case
Todd Schaefer is a professor of political science at Central Washington University.
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Kristin Flavin
They're supposed to be hired not for political reasons, but because they know things.
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Bob Case
Trump's plan to buy out these lower level workers may be a way to meet requirements of a couple laws on the books, including a 1974 law that basically says a president can't pause funds or significantly change approved spending because that's Congress.
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Lindsay Mast
Job Congress passed a law in 1974 called the impoundment Control Act. Nicole Anslever Once again, since 1974, no one explored that until Bill Clinton.
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Bob Case
He proposed eliminating about 300,000 federal employees from the payroll to try to streamline.
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Lindsay Mast
Government and tighten spending and then actually worked with Congress. And Congress then passed a law that was called the Federal Workforce Restructuring Act. And so under that act, which had been worked on by both branches of government, then some federal employees did take a buyout.
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Bob Case
So the buyout plan is not unprecedented.
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Lindsay Mast
However, what's being offered here is again different.
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Bob Case
This time, employees were only given a few days to decide whether they would like to resign and with very few details about how the plan would be worked out or what protections were in place. So federal labor unions sued.
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Lindsay Mast
And so what we're seeing now is courts and federal judges are pushing back and saying the president does not have the authority to ask workers to so quickly make this decision.
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Bob Case
Right now, the government is only funded through March 14th. So one of the details that needs to be worked out is making sure these employees will actually be paid through September as promised, and that they have recourse if the government doesn't uphold its end of the bargain.
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Lindsay Mast
No one is saying that the president can't do that. They're just asking the president to check in with Congress. Congress controls the purse strings.
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Bob Case
The founders created checks and balances so that the government would move slowly, limiting its power. After Wednesday's announcement, President Trump's buyout offer can continue, but the unions are promising to try to stop it again. So now employees who've accepted the offer have to figure out if they should still show up for work moving forward. Nicole Anslover says it will be up to the President and his team to come up with a viable solution that balances government efficiency with the rule of law.
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Lindsay Mast
The president and Congress need to work together. Both houses of Congress need to work together to make sure that the government is functioning as intended for world.
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Bob Case
I'm Paul Butler.
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Kristin Flavin
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Mary Reichard
Well, I'm not sure if you heard this story or not, but last December it was just another night in Columbus, Ohio ahead of the college football playoffs until wish that I was on a.
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Lindsay Mast
Rocky top down in the Tennessee hill.
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Kent Covington
Wait a minute there. That's the Tennessee Volunteers fight song.
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Lindsay Mast
Mary, you got that right.
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Mary Reichard
And Buckeye fans were not amused.
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Kent Covington
Oh, I bet.
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Mary Reichard
The mastermind behind this outrage nowhere near Columbus, Ohio. Logan Bartlett is a New York venture capitalist by day and a jukebox troll by night. With a few taps on the Touchtunes app, he hijacked bar playlists 500 miles away. Some music choices set the vibe you know, but others, they just set people off. Ohio State had the last laugh, though, winning that game 42 to 17 and then going on to win the championship game.
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Kent Covington
That's the best revenge.
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Mary Reichard
It's the World and everything in it. Today is Thursday, February 13th. Thanks for making world radio a part of your day. Good morning. I'm Mary Reichert.
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Kent Covington
And I'm Lindsay Mast. Coming next on the World and Everything in it. Love, love. Music reviewer Bob Case says the timeless tunes from the Great American Songbook capture the deep yearning of our hearts for lasting.
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Paul Butler
The Great Hebrew Songbook is like the Great American Songbook in that the Old Testament church sang songs for every imaginable occasion and every imaginable emotion. The poetic and prophetic sections of the Old Testament are replete with a kaleidoscope of popular music. Moses tells us the story in Genesis 24, a biblical waiting and yearning for Mrs. Right. Abraham said to his trusted servant, yahweh will send his angel before you, and you will take a wife for my son Isaac. From there, the servant said to Yahweh, let the young woman to whom I shall say, please let down your jar that I may drink. And who, whoever shall say, drink and I will water your camels. Let her be the one you have selected as Isaac's wife. And so it is with the canon of the Great American Songbook. The American Songbook could not have sprung, as is often alleged, merely from an uncritical appetite for romantic fantasy. These wonderful songs describe many human experiences and their responses. In this segment we look at just one yearning for love. In 1922, Bert Kalmar and Harry Ruby wrote a little number called who's sorry Now? Who's sorry Now? Whose heart is aching for breaking each vow? Who's sad and blue? Who's crying too just like I cried over you? This song is like a cat with nine lives. It was a big hit from my grandparents generation in 1923 and a big hit for my parents generation in 1946. And if they missed that version, they could get the 1950 version by Gloria de Haven.
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Lindsay Mast
Oh, sad and blue was cried.
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Paul Butler
The biggest hit version of all was for my Generation in 1958 by Connie Francis Frances, who sang that despite a failed romance, she is still in the market for the right companion.
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Lindsay Mast
I'm glad that you're sorry.
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Paul Butler
And how about that Snow White? She is even more positive that Mr. Right is right around the corner. Even in an animated cartoon, this yearning for love resonates with us. Someday my prince will come. In 1937 Frank Churchill and Larry Moy wrote this song for Walt Disney's animated film Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs. The song Someday My Prince Will come tells of Ms. White's longing for a fulfilled life with the love of her life, her Prince Charming. Until then, she is waiting, sad and lonely. Amazingly, the American Film Institute recognized this song as number 19 on their 100 Greatest Movie Songs Ever. My Prince became a standard in the American songbook only when Dave Brubeck recorded it in the 1950s. Another yearning and waiting song is a number by the Gershwin. They wrote But Not for me for their 1930 Broadway musical Girl Crazy. The song contains the verse telling of the singer's weariness in hearing Pollyannish advice.
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Lindsay Mast
I never want to hear from any cheerful Pollyannas put I tell you, fate supplies a mate. It's all banana.
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Paul Butler
What does the singer have against this positive Pollyanna's counsel? Well, Gershwin tells us they're writing songs of love, but not for me. This is shades of Proverbs 20:25. Whoever sings songs to a heavy heart is like one who takes off a garment on a cold day and like vinegar on soda. In 1986, Linda Ronstadt sang a stunning version with Plaz Johnson's mournful saxophone solo, and that reminds me of one more Gershwin tune. The Man I Love is an evergreen written by the Gershwins as part of the 1924 score for their musical comedy Lady Be Good. The most popular rendition of the wonderful song is by the Paul Whiteman Orchestra in 1928, packed with marvelous musicians. Twenty years later in 1947, the song was featured prominently in the film noir the Man I Love, and once again it became a national hit.
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Lindsay Mast
Maybe I will meet him Sunday maybe Monday maybe last Still I'm sure to meet him.
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Paul Butler
The yo yo of romantic relationships persists in the human heart. The yearning and searching for love in our lives and the sadness when that love is missing is an age old problem caused by our finiteness and our fall. We wait for everything, including human love and the full expression of God's love.
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Lindsay Mast
And so elsewhere I'm waiting for the.
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Paul Butler
Man that I love. I'm Robert Case.
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Kent Covington
Today is Thursday, February 13th. Good morning, this is the world and everything in it from Listener Supported World Radio. I'm Lindsay Mast.
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Mary Reichard
And I'm Mary Reichard. Pennies are poised for permanent purging. World commentator Cal Thomas posits political practicality prevails.
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Cal Thomas
President Trump has ordered the Treasury Department to stop minting pennies to save money. It costs almost 4 cents to make one and as the president seeks to reduce federal spending, the penny is a good, if largely symbolic target. The nickel is even more expensive. It costs nearly 14 cents to make. One doesn't have to have studied Economics 101 to understand this is a complete waste of money and part of the inefficiency and overspending Trump is trying to expunge from government. The US Mint began full time production of the penny in 1792. Then the coins were the size of today's half dollar and called large cents. The penny also became embedded in popular culture and its value endured until modern times. Older people will remember penny candy and slogans like a penny for your thoughts and Penny wise and Pound foolish. Songs about the penny inspired pennies from heaven and a road made famous by the Beatles Penny Lane as for a penny for your thoughts. Back then, thoughts and a penny were worth more than they are today. Just look at the misspending being revealed by Doge and you'll be shocked at the wastes. Though he never actually said it, Benjamin Franklin is often credited with coining the phrase a penny saved is a penny earned. In 1737 he did write in his Poor Richard's Almanac, a penny saved is twopence clear. The 1768 version of the almanac revised the saying a penny saved is a penny got. Other coinage attracted slogans of their own, including nickel and dime you to death, not a dime's worth of difference and two bits, also known as a quarter. There are dozens of slang words for money like the penny. Many of these words and coins were created decades, even centuries ago and have now outlived their usefulness. How many of us get frustrated fumbling for coins while we're paying for groceries or other retail shops? While we hold up the line and test the patience of those behind us? Even that experience is increasingly becoming old school school. The best solution would be to stop minting all coins. We're quickly transitioning to a cashless society. Why not go all the way? One idea if an Item costs under $0.50 including tax, round it off to the dollar below. The same for anything costing more than 50 cents, round it up to the higher dollar. A store near me has a machine that turns my coins into a paper receipt I can use to apply to merchandise. It's fun to watch and hear the device swallow the coins coins and see the screen light up like a slot machine in Vegas as it counts the money. As entertainment, it provides a few seconds of diversion. It could serve as a transition to cashless purchasing. Increasing numbers of us are using debit, mobile payments or cryptocurrency cards to buy things, collectors can gobble up the various existing coins and save for future generations. The savings that would come from abolishing coinage would be significant, along with avoiding the inconvenience of counting out change. It just makes sense. C E N T S however you spell it. I'm Cal Thomas.
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Kent Covington
Tomorrow, John Stonestreet joins us once again for Culture Friday. Plus, world's arts and culture editor, Colin Garbarino reviews a couple of new movies, Paddington and and Captain America and Wordplay with George Grant. That and more tomorrow. I'm Lindsay Mast.
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Mary Reichard
And I'm Mary Reichard. World's Becca McCallum wrote today's story on the Department of Education. The world and everything in it comes to you from World Radio. World's mission is biblically objective journalism that informs, educates and inspires. The Bible records that when the devil tried to lure Jesus to worship him, Jesus answered him. It is written, you shall worship the Lord your God, and him only shall you serve. Verse 8 of Luke chapter 4 Go now in grace and peace.