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2.28.25 The slowing of religious decline, a review of Last Breath, and listener feedback
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Myrna Brown
Good morning. Today on Culture Friday, has unbelief in America reached a plateau? We'll talk about high profile conversions, that great cloud of witnesses in Africa, and whether IVF can make families great again.
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Nick Eicher
John Stonestreet is standing by. He is raring to go. Later, a gripping survival story that sheds light on the human condition and allows us a look at a dangerous job.
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John Stonestreet
I can't rescue you if I I can't find you. Understand?
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Nick Eicher
Got it. Colin Garbarino reviews the film Last Breath and listener feedback.
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Myrna Brown
It's Friday, February 28th. This is the world and everything in it from listener supported World Radio. I'm Myrna Brown.
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Nick Eicher
And I'm Nick Eicher. Good morning.
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Myrna Brown
Up next, Kent Covington with today's news.
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Kent Covington
Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky is in Washington this morning where he's meeting with President Trump at the White House.
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Nick Eicher
We'll be signing a historic agreement that will make the United States a major.
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John Stonestreet
Partner in developing Ukraine's minerals and rare earths and oil and gases.
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Kent Covington
The deal will give the United States access to rare earth minerals in Ukraine. Those are important for manufacturing advanced technologies. Trump says the deal will benefit Ukraine's economy, but it will also allow the US to recoup the billions of dollars in aid sent to Kyiv amid the war. And that seems to have shifted his disposition. With regard to President Zelensky, Trump had been very critical of him, but he told reporters on Wednesday, I think we're.
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John Stonestreet
Going to have a very good meeting tomorrow. We're going to get along really well. We have a lot of respect. I have a lot of respect for him.
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Kent Covington
He said Ukraine has fought very bravely. Zelensky is coming with a list of questions for President Trump about US Support for his country going forward. Forward. On Thursday, British Prime Minister Keir Starmer met with President Trump at the White House. With the security of Ukraine and Europe topping the agenda, the prime minister said with regard to a possible deal to end the war, the UK Is ready to put boots on the ground and.
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John Stonestreet
Planes in the air to support a deal, working together with our allies because that is the only way that peace will last.
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Kent Covington
The UK and other European allies are adamant that having a peacekeeping force of some kind on the ground in Ukraine must be a part of any peace deal struck with Russia. The president also suggested that the UK Might escape planned US Tariffs, crediting what he called tremendously productive trade talks. But planned tariffs on imports from Mexico and Canada will go into effect as planned. On Tuesday, Trump said the neighboring countries aren't doing enough to address his concerns.
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John Stonestreet
The drugs continue to pour into our country, killing hundreds of thousands of people. We're losing.
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Kent Covington
Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau argues that only a tiny fraction he says less than 1% of the fentanyl that arrives in the US comes from Canada. But he said even still, his country has been working hard to shore up the US Canada border on its side. And he added, if on Tuesday there are unjustified tariffs brought in on Canada, we will have an immediate get an extremely strong response. As Canadians expect, the White House is set to impose 25% tariffs on goods from Mexico and Canada, and that is in addition to another 10% tax on imports from China. Trump says tariffs will create jobs and bring more manufacturing back to the U.S. critics of his approach say it will further fuel inflation in America. The Supreme Court is giving the Trump administration more time to fight a case challenging its funding cuts and freezes at the USAID agency. World's Kristin Flavin has more.
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Kristin Flavin
President John F. Kennedy created the USAID in 1961 by executive order. Its mission is not merely charity, but rather to distribute foreign aid to advance America's strategic interests and foreign policy abroad. But the Trump administration says that instead, career bureaucrats at the agency are treating USAID like a piggy bank, using taxpayer dollars to export LGBT and other left wing ideologies. The White House wants to pause the agency's payments while conducting a thorough audit, but a federal judge responding to a legal challenge ordered the administration to release $2 billion in payments. Chief Justice John Roberts this week paused that district court ruling. Roberts did not address the case itself, but gave the court time to review the arguments. For World I'm Kristen Flavin.
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Kent Covington
Israel says it has positively identified the bodies of four more Israeli hostages turned over by the terror group Hamas. Israeli government spokesman David Ohed, Yalomi Sahi, Edan Shlomo Mansour and Itzik El Garat, of blessed memory, were murdered. He also announced that Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has authorized a delegation to resume negotiations in Egypt. They're working to strike a deal to extend a ceasefire with Hamas, set to expire this weekend in hopes of bringing home more Israeli hostages. Because we want to bring them all home. It is our moral obligation. It is our ethical obligation. We need to bring them home right now, as soon as possible, soon as humanly possible. President Trump said negotiations are ongoing, but it is unclear if they'll be successful. Police in New Mexico initially said that there were no signs of foul play in the deaths of actor Gene Hackman and his wife, Betsy Arakawa, after they were found dead in separate rooms at their New Mexico home. But Santa Fe County Sheriff Adan Mendoza has since clarified, we're not ruling it out. What I did state was there was no obvious sign or indication of foul play. There was no immediate sign a foul play, but investigators are calling the deaths suspicious. One of their dogs was also found dead. Officials said there were no signs of a gas leak or carbon monoxide poisoning. Hackman was known for numerous iconic Hollywood roles, including this one in 1978's Superman.
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John Stonestreet
Lex Luthor, the Greatest Criminal Mind of Our Time.
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Kent Covington
Hackman won the Oscar for best actor for his role in the French Connection. Gene Hackman was 95. Betsy Arakawa was 63. I'm Kent Covington. And straight ahead, CULTURE Friday with John Stonestreet. Plus, your listener feedback for the month of February. This is the World and everything in it.
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Myrna Brown
It's Friday, 28th February. Glad to have you along for today's edition of the World and Everything In It. Good morning. I'm Myrna Brown.
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Nick Eicher
And I'm Nick Eicher. It's CULTURE Friday, and joining us is John Stonestreet, the president of the and host of the breakpoint podcast. Good morning to you, John.
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John Stonestreet
Thank you. Good morning.
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Nick Eicher
Well, John, there is a major new study from Pew Research on the American religious landscape. It suggests something of a shift. The New York Times reporting after decades of decline, the proportion of Americans who identify as Christian may have stopped falling. And meanwhile, the nuns and I should spell this one out. So there's no mistaking what I'm talking about, the N o N e s, the nones, this group of religiously unaffiliated it seems to have leveled off. So now these in the youngest adult cohort, these are still less likely to call themselves Christian overall. But what we find in the study is that they are no less religious than the group just above them. So the researchers suggest here that the long downward trend might be coming to a plateau. So, John, how does this challenge the older narrative of inevitable American secularization? And would you say it's fair to say we're seeing real improvement, or would that just be a leveling off?
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John Stonestreet
Well, it is a fascinating study and it's consistent with a number of other things that we're seeing, including things that are coming out of Europe and the UK Just even having a conversation last week with Justin Brierly of the unbelievable podcast as part of my visit across the pond there. And he's been working on telling the story of these kind of high profile intellectuals coming to re embrace Christianity. Maybe not a personal faith for some of them, but these are many of the same people who just yesterday told us that God's a delusion and religion poisons everything. And I mean things are different now in terms of how these findings align or don't align with the old narrative. It depends on which old narrative you're talking about. If you talk about the old narrative about secularization, that's a little bit different. A lot of times the narrative of secularization and the narrative of church decline are seen as the same narrative. Secularization is a way of seeing the world that's this worldly. And one would expect as secularization increases that people would make all the connections that they need to make and then stop going to church. And of course that did happen in a sense. The more modern and agnostic that mainline liberals became, for example, they stopped going to mainline liberal churches because really, what's the point? But secularization I think is more subtle. The question about secularization still has yet to be resolved because it really depends what we mean by religion. It is very, very possible to be religious in a secular way, to see religion and its benefits in a purely self referential. What is good and right and true for me and not connected to anything transcendent. And that at the end of the day is what secularization really is. It is the this worlding of belief. It is the this worlding of morality, of relationships, of design, of our understanding of reality. It's basically disconnecting the world from God. So I am all for the increased religious engagement. But if all the religious engagement is about how to do life better here and now and not tied to things that are eternally true, particularly the God who is the source of eternal truth, then there may be still a really strong secular flavor to the increase in religiosity. But of course, what better way to get that rectified than to go to church? So maybe this will all work out in the end either way.
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Nick Eicher
I would say so More people in church, how can that be a bad thing? Well John, let's make a shift to a couple of high profile figures over the past week, week and a half, who recently made public very personal journeys to faith in Christ. Let me begin with Nicole Shanahan. She may be best as the financier and running mate for Bobby Kennedy's campaign for the Democratic nomination for president this last go round. She at one point was married to the co founder of Google, Sergey Brin. So she's very wealthy. Shanahan posted on social media a dramatic baptism testimony. The second name I'll mention is Larry Sanger. Larry Sanger is co founder of Wikipedia. In telling his story, Sanger described a gradual intellectual return to Christianity. Both of these people, very early in their faith, and they took very different paths. Shanahan, a good bit more emotional, Sanger more cerebral, as our Bethel McGrew wrote about. But what are the implications, do you think, of these public conversion stories? And, John, how might Sanger's intellectual approach in particular shape our understanding of apologetics and evangelism?
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John Stonestreet
Well, I love to hear these stories, and these stories seem to be just continually rolling in in recent years. And this is to the point of what the conversation we were just having about this survey about the number of the nuns kind of having capped off Sanger's, I think, super interesting to listen to his long and detailed account of his conversion because it does involve all kinds of things, from childhood misperceptions to just coming across things from reliable sources on the Internet who took seriously the intellectual life of faith. And yeah, I think there are implications for apologetics and for evangelism. The most notable one being the reports of the demise of apologetics was vastly overblown. It's never been true that people don't want reasons for what they believe. It's never been true that situations of life don't send people into intellectual tailspins where they try to find consistency. It's true, never been true that humans are somehow not brains. And so the brain comes into play. Now, it's never just the brain, but why have we denigrated the entire work of doing intellectual Christianity? You know, I think the same thing is true in the conversations about worldview. And obviously I've got a little bit of a vested interest in this one, given that my organization that God has allowed me to be a part of is called the Colson center for Christian Worldview. But, you know, there's a big hubbub about a book coming from an Australian scholar about how worldview is a bad way to talk about Christianity. Well, worldview is a way, you know, at the end of the day of trying to wrestle with the authority of Christ over every area of life, both spiritual and what are areas that are traditionally considered, you know, not spiritual, but actually are. I don't think the problem here is that people took a word and used it like worldview. People actually think this way, we live this way. We want consistency, we want coherence. And the promises of distraction that our Western world gives us have just exhausted us of meaning. And so we're looking for meaning and we're looking for answers to our personal hurts. And we're looking for someone to help us deal with our guilt and forgive us of our sins and give us an understanding of how better to relate to people. And we're also looking for who created the universe and how do we know? I mean, it's not one thing, it's everything. As a mutual friend of ours likes to say, you put all of this together. And so I think we should never reduce Christianity to merely evangelistic tactics or intellectual nerdiness. Do all of the above, because Christ is Lord of all.
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Myrna Brown
Indeed. Well, John, I want to talk about ivf. World's Leah Savvis has been reporting on the clash between pro lifers and the in vitro fertilization industry, something President Trump is now stepping into. He just signed an executive order directing the Office of Domestic Policy to propose IVF policy recommendations within 90 days time. The White House is touting it as make families great again, but there's a serious debate over how IVF often treats human embryos. Put yourself into the shoes of White House advisor John and tell me what cultural and ethical questions ought to be addressed. Obviously beyond the high cost.
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John Stonestreet
Well, I think, listen, first of all, that they're just flat wrong that IVF is pro life and is even pro fertility. The vast majority of embryos, and by this estimates are up in the neighborhood of 90% that are created through IVF will not make it to birth and they won't die of natural causes. The vast majority will be eliminated through a screening process and then the others will be left abandoned after an early pregnancy is conceived. The other thing is the line that it's making families great again is completely misleading as well. And the reason is, is because IVF is such an unregulated wild wild west that there's no way to limit those who are able to create embryos, implant embryos, and then actually have children to actual families. In other words, we're talking about these new family alternatives like same sex couples, not to mention celebrities who don't want stretch marks and all the other reasons someone might choose to participate in this industry. The cat's so far out of the bag, it actually is astonishing to me when I hear anyone who claims to be pro life, but especially a Christian pro lifer, completely ignore the way that IVF violates the dignity of life and the God given design of families. And these aren't exceptions. These are the commonalities to do IVF in a way that could be considered ethical, which not everyone agrees that there is. But I'll grant that doing IVF in a way, for example, that only one embryo is created and implanted at a time, or a couple agrees to implant every embryo that's created. That is such a rare case in the overall way that IVF is carried out that to celebrate an executive order that further deregulates it and makes it more widely acceptable is just unconscionable to me because of the violation of human dignity that's built into the process and into the industry right now. I think it's the President's way of fulfilling a promise. I'm hoping he's going to fulfill the promise and listen to the right voices. And this is going to die on the vine because there's no way to look at the current way IVF is done on a national, and we haven't even talked international, which involves basically human trafficking and slavery, and say that what's really needed here are less regulations. It's ethically upside down.
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Myrna Brown
Well, finally, John, I'd like to mention the heartbreaking news from the Democratic Republic of Congo where at least 70 Christians were beheaded last week by ISIS affiliated terrorists. Now, my daughter in law is Congolese, so this hits especially close to home from a Christian worldview. How should we respond to these modern day martyrs, you know, beyond simply pitying them?
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John Stonestreet
Well, listen, dealing with the reality of the Fall in any cultural context, the most appropriate response is Lord have mercy. Christ have mercy. Lord have mercy. The Kyrie liaison, which has been a part of Christian liturgical repetition forever. But I think it gets heightened at a time like this for two reasons. Number one is the sheer scale and consistency now which we have seen the barbaric treatment of Christians at the hand of Islamic radicals and also atheistic nationalists, particularly dictatorial communism like in North Korea. Every time we see a list of the persecution that happens around the world, those are the sources right there. And then this just goes widely unreported by both Western press outlets and American Christians. And I do think what a wonderful thing to teach about the cloud of Witnesses, that we're a part of the worldwide body and Bride of Christ. Then to bring this sort of barbarism to our attention, what is our responsibility when we don't face this kind of risk? Their responsibility is to be faithful even unto death. That's what revelation makes really clear. Our responsibility is to cry out on their behalf, ask God for mercy and do everything we can to advocate so that it doesn't continue to happen. This level of persecution has been on the rise in the DRC for a long time and it's looking an awful lot like Nigeria. And they have one thing in common, which is this strong presence of Islamic radicals that target Christians.
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Nick Eicher
John Stonestreet is president of the Colson center and host of the Breakpoint Podcast. John, thanks so much.
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John Stonestreet
Thank you both.
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Kent Covington
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John Stonestreet
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Nick Eicher
Today is Friday, February 28th. Thank you for turning to World Radio to help start your day. Good morning, I'm Nick Iger.
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Myrna Brown
And I'm Myrna Brown. Coming next on THE World and everything in it, a true life drama that might leave you gasping for air. In 2012, saturation diver Chris Lemmons became stranded on the ocean floor. He found himself more than 300ft below the surface of the North Sea. The umbilical cable that tethered him to his ship snapped accidentally, right, and the.
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Nick Eicher
Diver was without oxygen for half an hour before his crew was able to rescue him. Here now is World Arts and Culture editor Colin Garberino on the new film hitting theaters this week that dramatizes this harrowing ordeal.
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Colin Garbarino
If you're a fan of disaster movies or if you like true stories of heroism, then there's a good chance you'll enjoy Last Breath.
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Nick Eicher
Dive Control Diver two is on bailouts. How much gas does he have left?
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Colin Garbarino
10 minutes.
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This is a taut 93 minute film about a courageous rescue mission, and it'll give you a new appreciation for a job you've probably never heard of. But it also might leave you feeling a little claustrophobic. Finn Cole plays newly engaged Chris, a saturation diver who's just signed on with a crew tasked with repairing vital oil pipelines crisscrossing the North Sea. He's the relative newbie who's assigned to work with veterans Duncan and Dave, played by Woody Harrelson and Simu Liu, respectively. But what starts out as routine maintenance turns harrowing when the ship's computer guided positioning system goes offline.
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John Stonestreet
Warning. Warning.
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Colin Garbarino
Dynamic positioning.
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John Stonestreet
I'm losing everything here.
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Kent Covington
Where's our power?
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Colin Garbarino
Dead in the water, Cap. We're drifting out of control as the ship drifts away. Chris and Dave get dragged along by their umbilical cables, which provide their oxygen, heat, and communication with the ship.
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John Stonestreet
Chris, you've got to really move. Yeah, yeah, I'm coming, I'm coming.
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Colin Garbarino
Dave manages to get clear, but when Chris's cable snaps, he finds himself stranded on the ocean floor with only 10 minutes of oxygen left in his backup tank.
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John Stonestreet
Now take slow, deep breaths, Otherwise you'll burn through your backup gas. Understand?
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Colin Garbarino
As the ship drifts further and further away from Chris, the entire crew race against time to save their lost comrade. Last Breath is a tense movie that might leave you a little breathless, but it's not too scary. It adapts the 2019 documentary of the same name, both of which were directed by Alex Parkinson. And he stays fairly true to the actual events in this dramatization, only adding a couple of complications to heighten the suspense. Parkinson brings the documentarian's sensibility to the story and even uses some of the archival footage in this film. It's rated PG13 for brief strong language, the worst of which comes from some of the documentary footage.
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Nick Eicher
Dive control.
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John Stonestreet
There's no umbilical left in the belt.
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Nick Eicher
That's everything I've got.
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Colin Garbarino
Compared to the big studio's blockbuster tent poles, the stakes in Last Breath might seem pretty low. The heroes aren't attempting to save the entire world from utter destruction. They're frantically working to save just one life, the life of one of their own. But it's a true story about a real person who inexplicably survived an ordeal that should have killed him. As strange as it might seem to say, this movie about running out of oxygen feels like a breath of fresh air. And it's something of a throwback, old school filmmaking that tells a remarkable story by reminding us of the nobility and fragility of our human condition. I think stories like these resonate with us not because we identify with the inspiring rescuers, but because we ourselves long for rescue. It's this same awareness that caused David to sing about God drawing him out of the deep waters.
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John Stonestreet
Now, I will come back for you, but you have to do something for me, okay? You have to get yourself back to the top of the manifold. I can't rescue you if I can't find you. Understand?
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Colin Garbarino
But Last Breath has another value. In addition to its ability to tell a gripping story about rescue and the human condition, it also nimbly introduces viewers to the dangerous job of saturation diving. There aren't many of these divers around the world, but they're vital for keeping our global economy running because they construct and maintain the world's oceanic energy and communication conduits. Saturation divers live in pressurized capsules for weeks at a time, letting their bodies grow accustomed to deep water pressure. This allows them to work at depths up to 1,000ft. In the course of telling its story, Last Breath becomes something of an advertisement for the hidden dirty jobs that make our modern lives possible. It's a fascinating glimpse into a world that most of us don't even know exists. I'm Colin Garberino.
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Myrna Brown
Today is Friday, February 28th. Good morning. This is the World and everything in it from listener Supported World Radio. I'm Myrna Brown.
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Nick Eicher
And I'm Nick Icker. Time now for listener feedback and we begin with some corrections and clarifications this morning. First, we found out this month that back on January 22nd, we misidentified the state in which one of our news sources practices law. The immigration attorney we quoted practices in Minnesota, not in Pennsylvania. Next, during our February 7th program, we profiled musician and producer Charlie Peacock and we misidentified his birthplace. He was, in fact, born in Yuba City, California. We reposted the segment online with that correction.
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Myrna Brown
This month we've covered a few stories based in Alaska. Listener David Durst is a longtime resident of the Last Front. He called in to straighten us out on some pronunciations. He clearly knows better than we did. But he also had this to say.
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Colin Garbarino
Thank you for recovering the Barry Nera airplane crash en route from Unalikleete to Nome on February 6th. As a lifelong Alaskan, it's nice to have events that are significant to our great state. Nationally, aviation is a huge part of transportation here as a majority of communities are not accessible by road. Even our state capital, Juneau, is only accessible by air or sea due to terrain.
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Kent Covington
I would also like to add that.
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Colin Garbarino
The town of Nome still does not have road access. There's about 200 miles of road out of Nome, but they are all dead ends.
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Nick Eicher
All right, thanks for all your coverage of Alaska and keep up the great work.
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John Stonestreet
Thanks.
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Colin Garbarino
Bye.
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Myrna Brown
Hey, thanks for listening, David.
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Nick Eicher
Yeah, and grateful that it didn't have to be carried by dog sled to get to us. Well, now on to some listeners who took exception to a few of our stories this month. First, a comment by environmental engineering professor Nathan he says he teaches at West Texas A and M University and he had this to say about our coverage of the Department of Government Efficiency after finding out a few of his friends had been laid off by Doge I.
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Colin Garbarino
Was calling in to respond to some of what Cal Thomas recently offered about critiques on Doge and those complaining about it. I don't disagree with most of what Cal said. He makes good points about needing to find fraud, waste and abuse and how likely it would be to find it if sought for. But I don't really understand why a blanket layoff of probationary employees is considered elimination of fraud, waste and abuse. There was no attempt made to discern how well the employees were doing their jobs, so I thought that detail needed to be added to this larger conversation.
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Nick Eicher
After our story on February 6 about changes to the asylum process at the Southern border, listener Tim Smith sent this.
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Colin Garbarino
Comment first of all, just want to say I really appreciate your guys ministry and I never miss a podcast. I'm so thankful for all the the faithful work that you guys do and and really just the love for God and His Word for truth. It's just a great service to the body of Christ at large and I sincerely thank you all for it. I do have some mild criticism for that piece. I did not think that it was really well balanced or even handed. There seemed to be a slant towards compassion for the people who were stuck in a difficult situation because the laws of our country are now suddenly being enforced. There are many people who just are trying to come to the United States for a better life and well, I empathize with that. It's not legal to try to claim asylum except for the neuro parameters that are set and have been set for a long time. And CBP1 app and all of that stuff was a workaround that was not in keeping with either the letter or the spirit of the law.
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Myrna Brown
And one more comment offering some pushback, this time in response to our February 13th commentary on pennies, here's Sarah Colin.
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Sarah Colin
Last week Cal Thomas ran a story about President Trump ordering the US Mint to stop making pennies. He said this was a good start. Wondered why stop there. It makes a bit of sense considering how much it costs to make coins. However, I am a not very tech savvy mother with young children. When I pay my kids every week I give them their money in piles. 10% to tithe, 10% for their piggy bank and I recommend they save a dollar in an envelope every week. And without coins I don't see any way I could work their pay as I currently do. It's hard because I certainly see the point about waste, but it feels like a us without coins is a us that's harder for families with children.
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Nick Eicher
And now a few appreciative comments. Matt Brown from Tucson, Arizona enjoyed our recent coverage of life in Syria on our Double Take podcast. You know, y'all are taking it totally to the next level. I kind of feel like I'm listening to an AP segment back from the invasion of Iraq or something. You know, it was just amazing and really deeply, deeply moving on multiple levels. And these segments that you're doing that tell story and have so many subplots are so engaging, so educational, so informative. You are really honing our appetites for better and better. And this certainly is an example of high quality better and better. Thank you so much.
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Myrna Brown
And finally, one more voicemail before we go. Last month we said farewell to one of our longtime technical producers, Johnny Franklin. This is Lorraine from Menifee, California. Congratulations to Johnny Franklin on his semi retirement. Johnny's creative placement in music like Rachmaninoff's Russian Easter Overture and tunes by Bob Dylan relating to news stories really highlight.
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John Stonestreet
His behind the scenes skill. Thanks for all you do.
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Colin Garbarino
Bye.
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Nick Eicher
And thanks to everyone who wrote and called this month. It's great to hear from you even when you disagree. So thanks for the time that you took to let us know.
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Myrna Brown
And if you have a comment to share, you can email editorng.org you can include an audio file attachment to your email and we'll consider it for air. You can even phone it in at 202-709-9595. And as we implied earlier, you can also dog sled it to us. And that's this month's listener Feedback.
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Nick Eicher
All right, time now to say thank you to the team members who helped out this week. Jenny Ruff, David Bond, Mary Muncie, Grace Snow, Juliana Chan Erickson, Andrew Walker, Leo Briceno, Onize Addua, three different Emmas, Emma Frayer, Emma Waters, Emma Perley, and we're not done yet. Lindsay Mast, Leah Savis, Kim Henderson, Cal Thomas, John Stonestreet and Colin Garbarino. And thanks to our breaking news team, Kent Covington, Lindy Langdon, Steve Klosterman, Travis Kercher, Lauren Canterbury, Christina Grube and Josh Schumacher. And a big thanks to the guys who stay up late to get the program to you early, Carl Peetz and.
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Myrna Brown
Ben Jiker, Harrison Waters is Washington producer, senior producer Kristin Flavin is features editor, Paul Butler executive producer and Les Sillers editor in chief. The world and everything in it comes to you from World Radio. World's mission is biblically objective journalism that informs, educates and inspires. The psalmist writes, cast your burden on the Lord, and he will sustain you. He will never permit the righteous to be moved. Verse 22 of Psalm 55. The Scriptures say to gather together to worship the Lord. Remember to do that this Lord's day. And Lord willing, we'll meet you right back here on Monday. Go now in grace and peace.