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The World and Everything In It
5.15.26 Mail-order abortions continue, Top Gun is 40 years old, and Carl Truman’s favorite books
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Steve Lincoln
Good morning.
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Myrna Brown
Today on Culture Friday, the surprise decision to keep mail order abortion going as the legal fight plays out.
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Nick Eicher
We'll talk it over with John Stonestreet. Also today, the movie that turned fighter pilots into pop culture icons. It is back in theaters.
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Steve Lincoln
You two characters are going to Top Gun.
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Nick Eicher
And author and theologian Carl Truman shares the books that shaped his thinking.
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Myrna Brown
It's Friday, May 15th. This is the world and everything in it from listener supported World Radio. I'm Myrna Brown.
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Nick Eicher
And I'm Nick Eicher. Good morning.
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Myrna Brown
Up next, Kent Covington with today's news.
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Kent Covington
Air Force One is heading home to Washington this morning. President Trump wrapping up two days of meetings in Beijing with Chinese leader Xi Jinping. The tone was decidedly warm with Trump receiving a grand red carpet welcome for which Trump thanked Xi and offered this toast at a state banquet.
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John Stonestreet
I'd now like to raise a glass and propose a toast to the rich and enduring ties between the American and Chinese people. It's a very special relationship and I want to thank you again. This has been an amazing period of time. Thank you, President Xi.
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Kent Covington
But behind the smiles and handshakes, tensions remained. Xi Jinping warned President Trump that the US And China could clash over Taiwan, saying the relationship hangs on how it's handled. Beijing claims the self ruled island is Chinese property. On the topic of Iran, Trump says the Chinese leader pledged that his country will not arm Tehran. And the White House says both leaders also agreed that Iran can never have a nuclear weapon and that the Strait of Hormuz must remain open. And Trump told Fox News he did offer.
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John Stonestreet
He said if I can be of
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Myrna Brown
any help at all, I would like
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John Stonestreet
to be of help. Because he did say that. Yeah, he did say that. And look, anybody that buys that much oil has obviously got some kind of
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Nick Eicher
a relationship with him.
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Kent Covington
But Beijing offered no specifics on pressuring Iran. China is Tehran's biggest oil customer. On trade, Trump says China agreed to buy 200 Boeing jets plus more American soybeans, oil and gas. Trump also invited Xi to visit the White House in September. Meantime, in the Strait of Hormuz, hijackers seized a tanker off the coast of the United Arab Emirates Thursday and steered it toward Iran. World's Benjamin Eicker has more.
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Steve Lincoln
It's the latest flashpoint in the Strait, which Iran has kept effectively closed for nearly three months. A day earlier, an Indian flagged cargo ship sank off of Oman's coast after an attack set it ablaze. Oman's coast guard rescued all 14 crew members. Iran has not claimed either incident, but Iranian Vice President Mohammad Reza Aref said Thursday the strait belongs to Iran and Tehran will not give it up at any price. Iran's judiciary asserted Thursday that Tehran has the legal right to seize any tanker tied to the US For World I'm
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Kent Covington
Benjamin Eicker and in Washington, America's top Middle east commander pushed back Thursday on reports that Iran's missile force is still mostly intact. Admiral Brad Cooper, head of U.S. central Command, testified before the Senate Armed Services Committee. A recent New York times report cited US intelligence saying that Tehran held onto about 70% of its missiles and mobile launchers from before the war.
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Steve Lincoln
The numbers that I've seen in open
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John Stonestreet
source are not accurate.
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Steve Lincoln
I think what also is not taken into consideration, it's more than just the numbers. It's the command and control that's been shattered.
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Kent Covington
Cooper said U.S. and Israeli strikes destroyed 90% of Iran's defense industrial base and that Tehran will not be able to rebuild what's been lost for years to come.
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John Stonestreet
Most notably, we degraded Iran's ability to project power outside its borders and threaten the region and threaten our interests.
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Kent Covington
And Cooper added that Iran's terror proxies Hamas, Hezbollah and Houthi rebels no longer get weapons or support from Tehran. In Ukraine, explosions heard overnight Thursday as officials say Russia hammered Ukraine for a third straight day with drone and missile attacks. Authorities say at least nine people were killed with dozens injured after Russian attacks demolished an apartment building in Kyiv. By morning, rescuers were removing bodies from the rubble. Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy said the weapon used in that attack was a KH101 missile, which was manufactured in the second quarter of this year. He accused Russia of circumventing global sanctions in order to make the missile The US Supreme Court on Thursday evening kept in place an order that allows companies to continue mailing abortion drugs to women across the country. World's Lauren Canterbury has more.
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Lauren Canterbury
The Supreme Court voted Thursday to keep mail order mifepristone in place. The decision came after nearly two weeks of deliberation. On May 1, the Fifth Circuit Court of Appeals had ruled that the FDA's mail order policy was harming the state of Louisiana and plaintiff Rosalie Markozic, whose ex boyfriend used the mail to coerce her into an abortion. Plaintiffs say the policy is a loophole for abusive partners and blocks states from enforcing pro life laws. Sarah Zagorski of Americans United for Life Lipid State Here is a scheme to undermine the Dobbs decision. Mifepra stone makers Danco Laboratories and GenBioPro had asked the High Court to block the Fifth Circuit's order. But Justices Clarence Thomas and Samuel Alito dissented, saying the drug companies thrived before mail order pills and are now breaking federal law by shipping them directly to women. The case now heads back to the Fifth Circuit while women and babies remain unprotected. Reporting for world, I'm Lauren Canterbury.
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Kent Covington
And I'm Kent Covington. Coming up, more on that Supreme Court ruling allowing distribution of mail order abortion drugs. Plus a cultural phenomenon returns to theaters 40 years later. This is the WORLD and Everything in It.
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Nick Eicher
It's Friday 15th May. Glad to have you along for today's edition of the World and Everything in It. Good morning. I'm Nick Iger.
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Myrna Brown
And I'm Myrna Brown. It's Culture Friday. The Supreme Court handed down an important abortion ruling late yesterday, not on the merits yet, but on the practical reality of Post Dobbs America. The justices, and we don't know exactly which justices, voted to keep mail order access to the abortion pill mifepristone in place nationwide. It will continue as litigation continues, the new stay blocking a lower court ruling that would have restored an in person dispensing requirement.
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Nick Eicher
Now, what makes this case especially significant is Justices Clarence Thomas and Samuel Alito issuing unusually forceful dissents. They argued that shield laws in blue states, federal FDA policy and mail order abortion networks are effectively undermining the Dobbs decision and doing so by allowing abortion pills to flow freely into states that have laws protecting the lives of the unbroken. Well, now, John, this is quite the turn of events. Do you think we're entering the next chapter? Now? It seems to me this is not about whether abortion is legal nationally. This is about whether pro life states can even enforce abortion restrictions.
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John Stonestreet
Oh, I mean, we're not entering it. We've been in it for a while. I mean, at least since the FDA took those unusual steps to remove the in person requirement during COVID and then extended it beyond that, I think it's also important to say that Justices Thomas and Alito did not just dissent and they did not just dissent forcefully. They called the activities of these particular companies what Justice Thomas called it criminal. Justice Alito called it felonious. So it's really a remarkable thing. It's hard to see how on a legal level that Justices Thomas and Alito are mistaken. They're identifying clear ways in which this violates settled law. And it does restrict the rights of these states which the Dobbs decision purportedly enforced. It restricts the rights of these states to have the laws that they want within their own states. This isn't the end of the matter. Alito pointed specifically to other things that could happen that should happen. And this doesn't fully settle the issue. It sent it back to the Fifth Circuit. So we'll see what happens there. But it is disappointing because now a court decision which was rational, made sense, legal, all of that has now essentially been effectively overturned. And we know that the Trump administration and the FDA are dragging their feet, intentionally pushing the review out even further with really no change in sight.
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Myrna Brown
You know, clearly the administration and more than a few Republican leaders did not want to talk about abortion during the midterms. But guess what? I think we'll be talking about abortion during the midterms. I don't see how that's avoided.
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John Stonestreet
Well, it's a good question. And so this should mobilize pro life voters that this is a political fight. It should mobilize Republican voters that care about this issue. And I know that's not 100%, certainly not at the party level anymore, tragically, but the buy in from the Democratic lawmakers on this Friends of the Court brief was so vast and so overwhelming, it just proves that this is the number one issue. And I think it also points to something deeper that we'll see at the midterm elections, the cultural environment in which we live. You know, it may be that, as Professor Robbie George has said, that we have to move beyond kind of the legal technicalities of how Roe was decided here and there and really get to arguing this idea that the government has a responsibility to protect the rights of its citizens, particularly the rights outlined in the Declaration of Independence, beginning with the right to life, who counts as a citizen, who counts as a human being worthy of protection. And of course, we've got all the reproductive science on our side of when life begins and the distinguishing between some humans and other humans as not being valuable persons. And that was the source of America's original original sin. And this is our current original sin, just in a different form.
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Nick Eicher
Well, John, a friend of yours was in the news this week, courageous young lady who was in your Truth Rising documentary last year, Chloe Cole. She is known as a detransitioner and Christian campus activist. She had to postpone this week a speaking event scheduled for the University of Washington. She cited threats from far left activists and concerns about campus security. Chloe Cole explicitly connected her decision not to speak to the assassination of Charlie Kirk, saying the atmosphere now around controversial political events has really changed and that public speaking carries risks you simply cannot dismiss as mere outrage from the Online world or theatrics on a campus. I wonder, John, are we in a different phase now where it's just not normal for controversial speech to be met with realistic, violent threats?
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John Stonestreet
Yeah, we. We are. You know, listen, there's been a level of anger and intolerance towards people who hold different views than you. And that's been a part of the American culture for quite some time, has been a part of Christian conservatism. The difference is that now from the left, it's not that these positions are beyond the pale, but people who hold these positions are unworthy of dignity, they're unworthy of protection. They deserve to be harmed. And I appreciate you calling Chloe a friend. I'd like to think of her that way. I call her a hero of mine because of her courage and following what's true, and a sister in Christ because of what Jesus did in her heart. But she made it very clear in her video that it's not the threat that's keeping her from going there. It's the inability to arrange security right now in a way to mitigate that threat. She still wants to go, and she wants to go to campus after campus after campus to tell this message. And she wants to do that because she knows that ideas matter and bad ideas have victims and that she was a victim of those bad ideas and that this needs to be kind of countered. But think about that. The left spent a decade critiquing the right for violent speech. Chloe Cole did not cancel University of Washington because she thought that someone might disagree with her. It was because of the threat of violence and the evaluation of security. And that tells you that there is a difference, and there is clearly a difference here. And we have enough of a track record of knowing where that kind of violence is coming from. And also that a big subpopulation within the political left in particular, that is perpetrating this violence has members of the trans community. It just has to be said. It just has to be said. And if you believe that all of reality should change to orient around your belief, your deeply held belief, then it's a small step to believe that if someone refuses to go along, that they're a threat to your reality. And so ideologically, it all makes sense how it gets to this point. But there is a difference, and we should know that.
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Myrna Brown
John, as I listen to you talk about speech and anger and hate and all kinds of vile things that come out of people's mouths, I'm thinking about something that I heard just this week. The Supreme Court this week struck down a 2023 federal court ordered Alabama congressional map. Alabama is my state and it's pretty simple. You can't discriminate on the basis of race to remedy discrimination on the basis of race. But you know, this brought a complet. Completely unhinged reaction from Alabama State Representative Wandalyn Gavan. Very irresponsible coming from her, let alone someone in authority, let alone someone educated well enough to be a lawyer. This is as clean as we can make it. What you're about to hear this personal attack on Justice Clarence Thomas.
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Kent Covington
He is the man who has turned
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Myrna Brown
us back into the hands of the master. Massa.
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Kent Covington
Just this was.
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Myrna Brown
Listen, help me. Somebody help me understand this black man right here. Help me understand this crazy Uncle Tom. Help me understand this lynchman.
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John Stonestreet
I just want some.
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Myrna Brown
I'm sorry.
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Steve Lincoln
Help me.
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Myrna Brown
Just embarrassing. And again, this doesn't fully capture it. Other than just being stunned by her comments. I really didn't know how to talk about this on Culture Friday. Then my husband sent me this. These comments from another lawmaker, Texas Representative Wesley Hunt, pushing back on what he calls reinvigorated talk of Jim Crow while at the same time defending America as a Christian nation.
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John Stonestreet
As someone who is a direct descendant of a slave, as someone whose great great grandfather was born on a plantation, I can assure you slavery is over. Jim Crow is dead. When I go anywhere, I don't see any white, only signs. I don't. I promise you, I am a black man that represent a white majority district in Texas.
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Myrna Brown
John, I'll be very honest with you. I think this goes beyond red versus blue, conservative versus liberal.
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John Stonestreet
Well, it is. And I'm not for gerrymandering. I'm not for the way that it's been done by either party. I'm not, you know, for a political process whenever it gets shrunk down to mere plays of power. But all that's political process stuff. What you're asking is something different, which is the inability to have conversations across any lines without bringing in power. Analytics. And it just tells us we're all good postmoderns now. I mean, that's the epistemological framing of postmodernism. When taken to its extreme, it becomes critical theory. I know I'm talking kind of academic language. And I guess at some level I'm speaking to those who, during the heyday of people critiquing critical theory in education, saying, well, critical theory is just the theory. No, it's a theory of everything. And that makes it very different. Critical theory is academic. No one has actually read these books. It's like, well, you don't have to read these books. When critical theory goes from being an academic theory to being a cultural mood taking over entire segments of the population. That's what's unfortunate to hear, that that has to take precedent over the actual identity of who Justice Clarence Thomas is, what race he is, what his socioeconomic and racial background and cultural background involved. You have to retell his story because it just doesn't fit the narrative that comes out. But he's been a real gift to our understanding of race. I think he's been a real gift to our understanding of jurisprudence and also an understanding of an applied faith in the public square. So I'm thankful for him. And unfortunately, it's all being, all those contributions are being drowned out, especially by all the squealing that's being done around vote maps and districting and so on.
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Myrna Brown
John Stonestreet is president of the Colson center and host of the Breakpoint Podcast. John, thanks.
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John Stonestreet
Thank you both.
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Kent Covington
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Myrna Brown
Today is Friday, May 15th. Thank you for turning to World Radio to help start your day. Good morning. I'm Myrna Brown.
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Nick Eicher
And I'm Nick Eicher. Well, before we move on, we want to let you know the world and everything in it is now on YouTube. Same podcast, you know and love. Audio only, no video, not yet. But if YouTube is where you prefer or a friend prefers to get podcasts, well, now you can find us right there. Just go to YouTube, search the world and everything in it. Hit that subscribe bell and it will be there for you next time you come back. We'll put a link in the transcript and the show notes just to make things a little bit easier to find and share. So spread the word. You can find us now on YouTube. Well, coming next on the World and everything in it, back to the danger zone. This week marks the 40th anniversary of the original Top Gun. Both it and its 2022 sequel, Top Maverick returned to theaters this week for a limited one week run.
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Myrna Brown
World reviewer Steve Lemkeman says the original film endures because it taps into themes of courage, sacrifice and devotion to a higher calling.
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Steve Lincoln
Soaring back into theaters this week for its 40th anniversary, Top Gun holds a special place in the heart of American cinema. From the moment Kenny Loggins Danger Zone begins to play, audiences are energized in expectation of fighter pilots Maverick and Goose roaring onto the silver screen. I feel the need, the need for speed. Tom Cruise is captivating as the competitive, highly driven pilot Pete Mitchell, whose call sign is Maverick. Maverick is aptly named. He flies outside the lines and pushes boundaries mischievously and sometimes dangerously as he seeks to establish his legacy as an ace fighter pilot. Maverick and Goose are a compelling dynamic duo, whether boldly maneuvering through the skies or teaming up to try to impress the prettiest girl in the room. She's lost that loving feeling. She's lost. No, she has. Yes, she has.
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John Stonestreet
She has not lost that loving, Goose.
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Steve Lincoln
She's lost it. Matt, come on. I hate it when she does that. The film begins with an heroic rescue of a pilot paralyzed with fear. Despite defying the orders of their commanding officer, Mav and Goose are rewarded with an incredible opportunity only afforded to the top 1% of all naval aviators. You two characters are going to Top Gun. For five weeks, you're gonna fly against the best fighter pilots in the world. At the end of this prestigious training, only the best pilot is awarded the Top Gun trophy. And Maverick is determined that it's already got his name written on it. That's pretty arrogant, considering the company you're in. Yes, sir. I like that in a pilot. Maverick's arrogance, though initially praised, is expected to be kept in check by rigid submission to authority. Something that is made painfully clear to him after he bends the rules to win one of the first contests and then buzzes the air traffic control tower as a victory lap. Top Gun rules of engagement exist for your safety and for that of your team. They are not flexible, nor am I. Either obey them or you are history. Is that clear? Yes, sir. Top Gun's discipline of its rogue aviator reflects our need for God's moral law to restrain our unruly hearts. His commands are given for our spiritual safety. While the prospect of success, prestige and love may take our breath away, it is our devotion to him that merits heavenly praise. The Lord looks at the heart. Maverick's highway to the danger zone features many memorable moments that keep audiences coming back for more. From his playful romance of his flight tactics instructor to his fiery rivalry with Iceman. What's your problem, Kazansky? You're everyone's problem. That's because every time you go up in the air, you're unsafe. I don't like you because you're dangerous. That's right, Ice Man. I am dangerous. Though the film tilts toward romantic conquest over a courtship and contains some sexual content, the inspirational core of Top Gun is the pilot's journey towards self sacrificial brotherhood. Actress Meg Ryan only makes a brief appearance in the film, but her joyful devotion to both Goose as her husband and to Mav as a worthy friend greatly increases the love we have for these characters and the brotherly bond they share. You're the only family I've got. I'm not gonna let you down, I promise you. This foundation of loyalty in service of the highest calling provides a platform for the ultimate test of devotion displayed on the daring, death defying frontier of aerial combat. And with a new Top Gun movie in development and a sequel that outshines its beloved predecessor, it's time to strap into your theatrical cockpit and celebrate the 250th anniversary of the Declaration of Independence with this feel good American classic. May we all rededicate ourselves to serve our communities with steadfast devotion and have a little fun along the way. Mustang, this is Maverick. Requesting flyby.
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John Stonestreet
Negative goes right at the pattern is B.O.
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Steve Lincoln
i'm Steve Lincoln.
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Nick Eicher
Good morning. This is the world and everything in it from listener supported World Radio. I'm Nick Iker.
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Myrna Brown
And I'm Myrna Brown. It's time now for our occasional feature we're calling Quest Conversations with thoughtful leaders about the books that shape their thinking. World's Lindsay Mass joins us with this month's radio edition.
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Lindsay Mast
Thanks, Myrna. Today we welcome Carl Truman. Truman is a professor of biblical and theological studies at Grove City College, a fellow at the Ethics and Public Policy center, and an author himself, most recently of the Desecration of Man. Carl, good morning.
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Carl Truman
Good morning, Carl.
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Lindsay Mast
Let's start just with a bit of backstory here. I'm curious as to when you first realized that books could shape the way you think.
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Carl Truman
Well, I grew up in a home where neither of my parents had been to college. But my dad was very bookish and loved books and taught me to love reading. So I really can't remember the first time I fell in love with reading, but it was probably when I was 6 or 7. And I've been a big reader ever since.
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Lindsay Mast
I want to start with your first choice here, Augustine's Confessions. I'm curious, what do you think Augustine gets right about human nature, that modern thinking gets wrong?
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Carl Truman
He brings out beautifully the role of love, that we're motivated, we're driven by the things that we love. And he also brings out the conflict that human beings feel within the heart, really. Solzhenitsyn will later comment about the line between good and evil runs through the middle of every human heart. That's Paul's position. That's Augustine's position. The internal psychological battle that Christians engage in is very important. Where Augustine is very good, though, is that he realizes you can't stay inside. You have to look outward to God. The whole book is cast as a prayer. So it's this beautiful balance between the internal struggle and the outward resolution of all things in God.
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Lindsay Mast
Why is dependence on God so central to being human?
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Carl Truman
We're made in God's image. It's very clear from Genesis that we're unique among creatures being made in his image. And that image reflects not only the fact that we are his creatures and dependent upon him for our existence and for the guidance we have in this life, but also dependent upon him for things like our ends. We have been created with a certain purpose, made in his image. We're to freely pursue those ends, but they are ends that are utterly dependent upon God's creative and sustaining activity of us.
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Lindsay Mast
Well, your next influences are grouped together. Erica Bacchiacci's the Rights of Women and O. Carter sneed's what It Means to Be Human. What did you find that these writers recover about the body and human dependence?
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Carl Truman
I think what both Erica and Carter do in their books is bring out the fact that our bodies are not problems. They're an integral part of who we are. Erica is engaged in reconfiguring women's rights, not as we typically think of them. Relative to feminism, a woman's right is the right to overcome the natural functions of her body because the capacity to get pregnant is a disadvantage. Erica is saying no. Women's rights really need to be seen as legal moves that enable women to fulfill the obligations that their bodies bring. So the ability to be a mother, because motherhood is part of the telos of what it means to be a woman. So she's doing something very clever with women's rights and the rhetoric of women's rights. Carter is bringing out the importance of embodiment for we call bioethics. He's talking about the importance of gestation, the importance of care for the elderly as our bodies get weak. And at the heart of his thinking is the idea that human beings, we're not autonomous, we are dependent and obliged to each other. What makes us dependent and obliged to each other? By and large, it's our bodies. Why are children dependent upon their parents and parents obliged to children? Because they have tiny little bodies and aren't able to look after themselves. And the same applies to elderly people. Why is it that we have an obligation towards elderly people? Because they become weak and frail. And as we were once dependent upon them, so they are now dependent upon us and our bodies, if you like. Their very constitution carries with it moral obligations, moral structure.
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Lindsay Mast
Well, your last book is the Genesis of Gender by Abigail Favale. I want to talk a little bit about teleology or purpose. Why is that the. A missing category in so many modern discussions?
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Carl Truman
Yeah. Well, the whole idea of end causality, that we're heading towards a certain place was once very important to understanding what it means to be human, but has ceased to be so. And when you think about it, end causes shape everything. If I was to leave home today and drive to Pittsburgh, the last place I arrive, Pittsburgh shapes every move of the wheel I make in the car from the word go. And what Abigail does in that book is argue that we need to understand ab bodies as having a teleology, an end. And her argument is really that the woman's body has a teleology that is normatively pointed towards gestation. Now, you might think that, so why is that useful? Or think about it. The question what is a woman? Has been so incredibly confusing to so many people. But if you think that a woman is somebody whose body is normatively tailored towards gestation becomes remarkably simple and easy to answer. So much of the confusion in our world lies in the fact that we see our natures, our natural bodies, as problems. What Abigail does is say, no, no, our bodies are to be embraced and rejoiced in as who we are, and we're to understand that they have a particular purpose. And it's that particular purpose, that particular final cause that defines what it means to be a man, what it means to be a woman.
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Lindsay Mast
Well, Carl Truman is a professor at Grove City College and a fellow at the Ethics and Public Policy Center. Carl, thank you so much for joining us.
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Carl Truman
Thanks for having me on.
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Nick Eicher
All right, time now to name the crew who helped out with this week's programs. Mary Reichard, David Bonson, Lauren Canterbury, Rachel Coyle, Cal Thomas, Amy Lewis, Hunter Baker, Daniel. Sir, Josh Schumacher, David Claussen, Steve Limkeman, John Stonestreet, Carl Truman and Josh Gagne. Thanks also to our breaking news crew. Kent Covington, Steve Klosterman, Travis Kircher, Daniel Devine and Christina Grube. And thanks to the guys who stay up late. So your program is ready early Tech producers Benj Eicher and Carl Peetz. Harrison Waters is Washington producer. Kristin Flavin is features editor. Emma Eicher is assistant producer. Lindsay Mast is producer. I'm executive producer Nick Eicher.
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Myrna Brown
And I'm Myrna Brown. The world and everything in it comes to you from World Radio. World's mission is biblically objective journalism that informs, educates and inspires. The Bible says, whoever ignores instruction despises himself. But he who listens to reproof gains intelligence. Verse 32 of Proverbs 15 Let the peace of Christ rule in your heart as you worship with your brothers and sisters in Christ in church this weekend. And Lord willing, we'll be right back with you on Monday. Go now in grace and peace.