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5.2.25 Culture Friday, a review of Thunderbolts*, and Ask the Editor
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Mary Reichert
Good morning. The FDA says abortion pills are safe. A major new study says otherwise. One in nine women suffer serious complications.
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Nick Eicher
Katie McCoy is standing by. We'll talk about that as well as baby bonuses, the fight over a so called Sharia city in Texas and a dark new trend in youth culture. Assassination chic?
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Mary Reichert
I don't think so. Junior varsity, Captain America.
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Nick Eicher
The summer block gangbusters have started. First out of the gate is from Marvel World Arts and culture editor Colin Garberino has a review for us.
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Mary Reichert
It's Friday, May 2nd. This is the world and everything in it from listener supported World Radio. I'm Mary Reichert.
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Nick Eicher
And I'm Nick Icker. Good morning.
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Mary Reichert
Up next, Kent Covington has today's news.
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Kent Covington
President Trump is shaking up his national security team. He has removed Michael Waltz as national security adviser, but he's not firing him. Instead, the president is nominating Waltz to serve as US Ambassador to the UN Vice President JD Vance said Waltz still has the president's trust.
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Nick Eicher
Donald Trump has fired a lot of people. He doesn't give them Senate confirmed appointments afterwards.
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Katie McCoy
What he thinks is that Mike Waltz.
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Kent Covington
Is going to better serve the administration.
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Nick Eicher
Most importantly the American people in that role. And I happen to agree with him.
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Kent Covington
The move comes in the wake of a public controversy after Waltz inadvertently added a journalist to a chat using the encrypted messaging app Signal. That chat included high level discussions about military plans. There were conflicting reports last night as to whether Waltz's deputy Alex Wong would remain on the job. The president last month announced the firing of a handful of national security employees. And with Waltz's departure from the White House, Vance says Marco Rubio is going to step in as interim leader of.
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Nick Eicher
The National Security Council.
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Kent Covington
But Secretary Rubio will also keep his current job, though it is likely a temporary arrangement. This will make Rubio the first person to serve as Secretary of state and national security adviser at the same time since Henry kissinger in the 1970s. President Trump is ramping up pressure on Iran amid nuclear talks at the White House on Thursday, Trump declared, I put.
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Nick Eicher
Sanctions on last night.
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Katie McCoy
Any oil that anybody takes from Iran is not allowed to do business in.
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Nick Eicher
The United States of America, which is.
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Colin Garberino
What I did the last time.
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Katie McCoy
That drove them into a very bad state.
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Kent Covington
The move follows the postponement of the latest planned round of U. S. Iran nuclear talks which were scheduled to take place in Rome this weekend. Mediators from Oman cited logistical reasons for the delay rather than any breakdown in talks. It remains to be seen how those secondary sanctions against Iran will be enforced, especially concerning major importers of Iranian oil like China. Also at the White House on Thursday, President Trump welcomed dozens of faith leaders in the Rose Garden to mark the national day of prayer and sign a new executive order. That order will establish a religious liberty Commission. Texas Lieutenant Governor Dan Patrick will lead the effort.
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Paul Butler
There's a saying that no one should.
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Nick Eicher
Get between a doctor and a patient. I think we would say no one should get between God and a believer. No one should get between God and those seeking him.
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Kent Covington
The commission will identify and evaluate threats to religious liberty, parental rights and free speech for religious organizations. President Trump has also set up offices to look into allegations of anti Christian bias at the Justice Department and anti Semitism on college campuses. Florida Governor Ron DeSantis is touting the biggest single crackdown on illegal immigration in the state's history. Operation Tidal Wave involved both state and federal partners, including the Department of Homeland Security and Immigration and Customs Enforcement.
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Paul Butler
This is the largest immigration enforcement operation.
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Katie McCoy
That we've seen in quite some time.
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Paul Butler
Throughout the entire country, Florida state agencies assisted federal authorities to arrest over 1100 illegal aliens across the state.
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Kent Covington
Not everyone is happy with the crackdown, though. Some critics are calling for greater due process provisions for migrants before they're deported. Illinois State Police say the driver of a car that barreled through a building housing an after school camp in central Illinois may have suffered a medical emergency. Three young children and a teenager were killed in the incident on Monday. State Police Director Brandon Kelly said the investigation is ongoing, but at this time we can report.
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Nick Eicher
Initial preliminary toxicology test results were negative for alcohol and negative for controlled substances.
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Kent Covington
A 44 year old woman was behind the wheel of the vehicle that went off the road and smashed into the side of the building. In Chatham, just outside of Springfield, Police previously said they did not believe it to have been any kind of intentional or targeted attack. Six other children were hospitalized. One remains in critical condition. I'm Kent Covington. And straight ahead, CULTURE Friday with Katie McCoy. Plus, more listener feedback during ASK the Editor. This is the WORLD and everything in it.
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Mary Reichert
It's Friday 2nd May. So glad to have you along for today's edition of the WORLD and Everything In It. Good morning. I'm Mary Reichert.
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Nick Eicher
And I'm Nick Eicher. It's Culture Friday. Joining us now, author and speaker Katie McCoy. Katie, good morning.
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Katie McCoy
Good morning.
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Nick Eicher
Well, Katie, here's a story making some really big waves this week. A new study raising big questions about the safety of chemical abortion and the federal government's oversight of it. Researchers at the Ethics and Public Policy center tracked more than 865,000 abortion pill prescriptions. They did this over a period of six years. What they found was that one in nine women suffered a serious complication. And let me stop here to talk about how tightly they define serious complication. The authors asked a panel of OBGYNs to map every diagnosis and procedure code that meets the FDA definition of serious event. So what we're talking about are conditions requiring hospitalization or some kind of invasive intervention or posing an immediate threat to life. And what the study found was that the rate of serious complications is in reality more than 20 times the rate listed on the drug's FDA label. And this is especially important, coming as it does at a time when mifepristone is now accounting for two thirds of all the abortions in the U.S. so let's begin with that top line finding. Katie, one in nine women who took the abortion pill experienced a serious complication. Does that come as a surprise to you?
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Katie McCoy
I wish it did, Nick. It's staggering and completely unsurprising, in part because we see the rhetoric surrounding mifepristone, the abortion pill highlighted not only as safe, but one of the lines you'll hear associated with it is it's safer than Tylenol. And what's also staggering is to realize that women are getting this medication via telehealth. They don't even have to see a doctor. So they're getting, effectively, abortion by mail. This is as easy to come by as an antibiotic. I certainly hope this continues to make waves, but here's where I'm afraid it might not. We are living in an age where data comes up against dogma, and dogma always wins. What I mean by that is what you believe is true depends upon the degree to which it aligns with a political purpose or an ideological narrative. So you already know what you believe, no matter what the facts are. But our own FDA is using old studies. That was something else that this report found. Old studies that are done with maybe 10 clinical trials, they said, with about maybe 31,000 women. And here they're coming with not just their own study, but verifiable insurance claims. They have documentation of what was required after taking mifepristone. And it should be the biggest story in the news right now. I remember, maybe you do, too, of just a few years ago when this over the counter antacid, Zantac. Do you remember Zantac? It was pulled from the shelves, recalled nationwide. Get it out, throw it away. And that was because of studies that showed it might eventually increase the risk of someday getting cancer. And with that and antacid, we had a nationwide movement to get rid of it. This should be something that is immediately halted. But it won't be. And it won't be because it doesn't fit a narrative. And as long as we're defining truth according to its political effect, not according to that which corresponds with reality, I'm afraid this report will continue to fall on deaf ears.
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Mary Reichert
All right, from one alarming thing to another. Now, Katie, I saw a report from an organization called the Network Contagion Research Institute. It points to a cultural shift that's taking root online. Researchers call it assassination culture. Now, this thing treats violence as not only acceptable, it treats it as desirable. And it's fueled by memes and highly stylized forms of political extremism. We know that political violence has been a concern for a long time, but what's new here is that young people who are big time engaged with left leaning digital spaces like Reddit and Blue sky are doing this. And here's just one finding from that report. Nearly 4 in 10Americans surveyed said assassinating President Trump would be at least somewhat justified. That number jumps to more than half among left of center respondents. We're not just talking about politicians either. Many point to Luigi Mangi murder of Brian Thompson, the CEO of UnitedHealthcare, as a meme or kind of rallying cry. Katie, this is so upsetting. How on earth did we get here?
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Katie McCoy
It is upsetting indeed. And I'm not familiar with this Network Contagion Research Institute, but when I saw the name, I thought, huh, contagion. We've had quite a few social contagions in our culture in the last 15 to 20 years. And certainly now this contagion of politically motivated or ideologically motivated violence is becoming more frighteningly common. We also hear it again in some of our elected officials. They'll try to walk it back, but they'll say things that certainly sound like they could be inciting people to violence. And it again, Mary, what I go back to, it's that data versus dogma again, because when people are using this language, they're justifying it in the name of some type of politically held ideology. It's ironic though, isn't it, that you have, among some of the same pockets of our society, both justifying violence, but then also saying that certain types of words are a form of violence. So, for instance, saying something that goes against your own political or ideologically held beliefs is considered violent or doing violence. And so it is nonsensical. But the reason it's nonsensical is because again, data versus dogma, when you have a view of truth, a prevailing view of truth in our culture that doesn't have to correspond to reality is just determined by its political effect. This is what you get.
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Nick Eicher
All right, Katie. Well, the New York Times reporting that the Trump administration is considering proposals to encourage Americans to marry and have more children. Among the ideas being tossed around, a five thousand dollar baby bonus for new mothers and reserving top government fellowships for applicants who are married or have kids. So seems like a laudable goal to try to reverse America's declining birth rate and restore family to the center of American life. But what's your take on things like this? Do you think that financial incentives like baby bonuses and tax credits have a meaningful role to play? Or is it possible that they risk reducing family to just a policy lever?
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Katie McCoy
Yeah, that's a great question. So first, I'm really glad to hear people talking about this in the mainstream. It's been at least 10, 15 years ago that we started hearing about the demographic winter. I recently heard an interview from Daryl Bricker, who wrote a book, Empty the Shock of Global Population Decline. This is something that is, generally speaking, worldwide, certainly in Western countries. And this writer, Daryl Bricker, said some people are not having children because they can't afford them, but mostly they're not having kids because they just don't want them. And so some of the policy issues, the economic issues that we're talking about, necessary though they are, they're colliding with cultural issues as well. We have, generally speaking, the decline in the family. We can go back to the sexual revolution as we've talked about on this show many times, and see how 60 years later we're still living in the effects of that. Different researchers like Mary Eberstadt would be a wonderful place to start if you're wanting to look into that. There's a fantastic new book coming out by one of our world opinion writers, Nathaniel Blake wrote a book called Victims of the Revolution. It is phenomenal, so well researched. But one of the ways that we are still seeing the effects of it now is among unmarried women. And this is affecting everything from the disproportionate gender ratio in higher education to women remaining unmarried, 30s, 40s, and then not having children, deciding maybe they don't want to have kids at all, or if they do, maybe one or two. And then maybe they don't even need a partner, they can just do IVF if they would like to have a child that way as well. The many cultural maladies that have caused our low birth rate will remain even after the financial incentive. But here's the thing, Nick and some of our writers, like our own Katie Faust and Emma Waters, have talked about this. It isn't just births that we need. We need families. Because adding to more single mothers raising children is not going to fix our social ills. In fact, you can predict a whole other host of compounded social ills if we just have an increase in fatherlessness. Fatherlessness being linked to nearly every negative metric from mental and behavioral health to increased risk in poverty and academic difficulties. So what we need is a revival of families, not just babies.
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Mary Reichert
Well, Katie, I'm sure you've heard about the proposed development in Texas that Governor Greg Abbott is calling a Sharia city. He's trying to block a thousand home master planned community outside of Dallas, anchored by a mosque and backed by members of the East Plano Islamic Cent. The group behind the project called Epic City, says it's open to all. It's fully legal under Texas law and born out of not separatism, but of serving a growing faith community. So is this just religious liberty at work, or is it something else? What's the right way to think about this?
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Katie McCoy
Well, Mary, I'll leave it to you to figure out what this means legally. But when I see this story, I can't help but see what this means culturally. And for that, I compare communities in the United Kingdom, in France and. And other Western European nations. You know, one of the things that we see. And I don't want to unfairly besmirch practicing Muslims. I do, however, want to talk about the religion of Islam. My colleague did a lot of missions overseas. I'll never forget this conversation. He was describing to me what it's like to live in a Muslim context. And describing that, you know, when they say that they are a religion of peace, what peace is to this religion is global domination. Peace is the caliphate. And so when they're saying it's a religion of peace, they say peace. But it's not what in our pluralistic society we typically would understand to mean peace. And I asked him, I said, well, so how does that coexist with any other government? And he said, it doesn't. It just doesn't. True Islam is more like what we saw in ISIS about 15 years ago. And I will hasten to say that the rise of ISIS led to the exponential and unprecedented conversion of Arabs to Christianity because they had inherited their Muslim identity. It was part of their culture. It was a kind of nominal aspect of their lives. And they saw true Islam being practiced and they didn't want anything to do with it. And so this is culturally alarming. I realize it can sound like Henny Penny, the sky is falling, but the truth is we saw this happening in the United Kingdom about 20 years ago. A British parliamentary member named Baroness Cox talked about Sharia councils. They were sort of like family courts. They had about 80 of them in the UK and she sounded the alarm on behalf of British female citizens and the inequality that they were living in. I would really caution all of your listeners to see it through the lens of where has this gone in Western Europe and could that happen in America as well? In the name of civil liberties, in the name of the things that we take for granted. But the reason we take for granted is because we have lived historically in a predominantly Christianized society.
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Nick Eicher
Author and Speaker Katie McCoy. Katie, thanks so much. Good to see you. We'll talk next time.
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Katie McCoy
See you all next time.
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Kent Covington
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Mary Reichert
Today is Friday, May 2nd. Thanks for listening to World Radio. Good morning, I'm Mary Reichert.
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Nick Eicher
And I'm Nick Eicher. Coming next on the World and everything in it, capes, quips and box office clout, Hollywood launches its summer season with the newest superhero movie from Marvel World. Arts and Culture editor Colin Garberino grabbed some popcorn and a notepad and brings us this review.
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Colin Garberino
Not too long ago, the Marvel Cinematic Universe seemed an unstoppable juggernaut. With more than $12 billion in domestic ticket sales, the MCU is the highest grossing film franchise of all time. But in the last few years, the franchise's quality has dropped off, and fans have begun to complain that it's grown bloated and tedious. There's something wrong with me. What the MCU needs is a reboot. The latest installment of Thunderbolts doesn't scrap everything and start over, but even the film's intro montage signals that it's heading in a new direction.
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Mary Reichert
I thought it started when my sister.
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Colin Garberino
Died, but now it feels like something bigger.
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Katie McCoy
Just a void.
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Colin Garberino
Thunderbolts begins with the Black Widow Assassin Yelena, once again played by Florence Pugh. Facing an existential crisis, she's been performing black ops missions for the US government, but feels like she's leading a meaningless life. She agrees to go on one last mission for CIA director Valentina Allegra De Fontaine, played by a very game Julia Louis Dreyfus.
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Katie McCoy
Look at you.
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Mary Reichert
You are all so adorable.
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Colin Garberino
But the op doesn't go as planned. Yelena runs into a few more of the government's contract. It seems Valentina doesn't have everyone's best interest at heart. But these anti heroes aren't sure whether they should cooperate or kill each other.
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Nick Eicher
There you are.
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Colin Garberino
Now what?
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Nick Eicher
Oh, get over yourself.
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Colin Garberino
Thus is born a ragtag squad of B list superheroes. They're a group that's adept at punching and shooting things. But they'll have to learn that some problems can't be solved with fists and bullets. The most respectable member of the group might be Captain America's old sidekick, Bucky Barnes, played again by Sebastian Stan Barnes has recently been elected to Congress representing Brooklyn. Who sends today?
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Mary Reichert
Congressman Barnes.
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Kent Covington
Wow.
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Mary Reichert
You know, I never really thought you'd have a promising political career, but less than half a term.
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Katie McCoy
Yikes.
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Colin Garberino
Hannah. John Kamen plays Ava Starr, AKA Ghost, an assassin who can walk through walls. And Wyatt Russell returns to the MCU as John Walker, the disgraced soldier who made a mess of things when he tried to pick up where Steve Rogers left off for taking the inval.
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Mary Reichert
I don't think so. Junior Varsity Captain America.
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Colin Garberino
Rounding out the crew is Yelena's adoptive dad, played by David Harborough. He's an old Soviet super soldier who finds himself bored out of his mind during his forced retirement.
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Mary Reichert
Who is this old Santa?
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Nick Eicher
I'm Alexis Shostakov. The Red Guardian.
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Mary Reichert
What?
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Colin Garberino
Thunderbolts possesses a kind of meta commentary on the Marvel Cinematic Universe that I found appealing. The characters talk about their world in a way that acknowledges the franchise is in shambles and it's up to this scrappy team of misfits to get things back on track. On the whole, I would rate Thunderbolts as one of the best MCU movies of the last five years. Not that there's been much competition. It has some nice action sequences, it doesn't take itself too seriously, and it's not bogged down with too many ties to other MCU properties. You can understand what's going on without watching the 35 films that proceeded in the franchise. But if you want to get the full background on all the characters, you'll only need to see two films Ant Man 2 and Black Widow and one Disney series, the Falcon and the Winter Soldier. Thunderbolts is rated PG13, but it's a grittier PG13. The violence is about what you would expect, but the language is a little coarser than the typical comic book film. It also explores some heavy themes.
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Mary Reichert
Elena, you look awful.
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Colin Garberino
This isn't your typical story of good versus evil. Just like in real life, everyone is flawed. The villain's overarching problem is cynicism, believing the entire world is made up of bad guys and worse guys. Each and every character in this movie is damaged in some way. Yelena's not the only one plagued with memories of a difficult childhood, and just about everyone is racked by regrets and guilt over past mistakes. The film's climactic battle becomes something of a metaphor for contemporary society struggle against mental health problems the film's central question is the same one we see in the book of how can we find meaning in this life that sometimes seems so meaningless? Of course, I wouldn't go to a comic book movie expecting insights to rival biblical wisdom literature. The film acknowledges that we all have a hole in our hearts, but the scriptwriters don't understand that God is the only thing that can satisfy it. Instead, the movie suggests that we find meaning in a sense of community, which isn't bad advice as far as it goes. Considering the isolating effects of contemporary society, Thunderbolts might not offer the ultimate solution to the problem of our need for meaning. But I applaud the filmmakers for being brave enough to pose the question. I'm Colin Garberino.
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Nick Eicher
Today is Friday, May 2nd. Good morning. This is the World and everything in it from Listener supported World Radio. I'm Nick Iker.
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Mary Reichert
And I'm Mary Reichard. Up next, ask the editor for the month of May, World Executive Editor Paul Butler now, with a few recent emails that we just couldn't squeeze in last week.
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Paul Butler
I've always loved checking the mail. I'm a man of routine. Each day I listen to the program, lead our program planning meeting, and then head out to the mailbox, peering in, hoping for a card or a package. These days, I have to admit the offerings are pretty meager, but sometimes there's a whole pile of posts to go through. Those are the best days, and that's the feeling I have as I think back over the past month. We had so much listener feedback it was hard to choose what to include in last week's segment. So I thought I'd revisit the mailbag for a few more highlights today. The first comes from Alan Day. He's got a thankless job. He's a high school English teacher at a large public school in North Texas. But he was encouraged by a recent Friday program with Andrew Walker and George Grant.
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Kent Covington
This morning I got to hear two.
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Nick Eicher
Men who've influenced me to be the best teacher I can be. My former professor, Andrew Walker reminded us that grace doesn't destroy nature, but perfects it. So as a Christian, I'm really passionate about teaching literacy and critical thinking because that will always point us to God. And George Grant always reminds me at the end of a long week just.
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Kent Covington
How much beauty and order and even.
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Colin Garberino
Humor can be found in language which.
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Nick Eicher
We have have as God's image bearers. Sometimes I even share his pieces with my students to demonstrate the delightful rewards of studying English.
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Paul Butler
Thanks for all you do, Alan. I think we all remember high school English, so thank you for all that you do. Another encouraging note came from Brenda Davis. She listens to the world and everything in it. In Antioch, California, she had this to say after a recent commentary about Illinois removing pro life Representative Henry Hyde's name from a local courthouse.
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Mary Reichert
I want to thank Hunter Baker for the story on Henry Hyde today. Instead of focusing us to lament the removal of Henry Hyde's name from the Illinois county courthouse, your focus was to honor him as a hero. Instead of focusing on the very dishonor this act of Illinois has declared, you honored his act of the Hyde Amendment, explaining how how he convinced liberals and conservatives to support it. He really was an American hero. It was an excellent call and even your tone pressed us to continue on. Never give up because the illusion of the right to choose abortion, it will fade. Thank you so much, Hunter Baker and for world for the encouragement that you all gave today to believe and speak the truth.
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Paul Butler
Thank you, Brenda. That means a lot. One more comment this morning. This one came in after last Friday's program, but I wanted to share it with you right away. Susan Smith lives in Plano, Texas, and she's been a regular listener since 2019.
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Katie McCoy
And I especially like Fridays with John Stonestreet. I enjoyed his comments today about the Maryland case before the Supreme Court and his encouragement to go listen to to the entire oral arguments. I did that just now and it was fascinating to hear the lines of questioning, to hear the attorneys. You could hear the assumptions and the worldviews behind each justice. And that was a little scary to hear, but it was also very interesting.
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Paul Butler
Well, Susan, we don't often assign homework, but I'm glad to know that you found the recommendation helpful. And for those of you who didn't do your homework this week, we'll include a link to both John's comments and the complete oral argument in our transcript. Oh, and by the way, Susan ended her email with this I'm always eager.
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Katie McCoy
And excited to share this podcast, and I now have several friends who are regular listeners as well. Keep up the good work and thanks for all you do.
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Paul Butler
We're so thankful for World Radio Ambassadors, those listeners who encourage their friends and families to listen as well. It's a great way. In fact, it's the best way to get the word out. It's easy to do. Each platform, phone and podcast player is different, but all of them have menu options that allow you to share a specific part of the program or the whole episode with a link. So one more bit of homework as you listen in the days and weeks ahead. If you hear a segment or program that you enjoy, we'd love to hear about it. But would you go that extra step and share it with someone as well? Send a friend or family member the link and encourage them to listen. We'd sure appreciate it. Thanks so much. That's this month's Ask the Editor. I'm Paul Butler.
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Nick Eicher
Time now to say thank you to the team members who helped to put the program together this week. David Bonson, Myrna Brown, Anna Johansen Brown, Janie B. Chaney, Daniel Darling, Will Fleeson, Colin Garbarino, Amy Lewis, Carolina Lumeta, Becca McCallum, Katie McCoy, Mary Muncie, Jenny Ruff, Josh Schumacher and Cal Thomas. Thanks also to our breaking news team, Lauren Canterbury, Kent Covington, Christina Grube, Steve Klosterman, Travis Kercher and Lindy Langdon. And thanks to the guys who stay up late to get the program to you early. This week's been a reunion tour of sorts with Benj out on vacation. Johnny Franklin's been back in the saddle, providing technical assistance with Carl Peetz.
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Mary Reichert
Harrison Waters is Washington producer. Lindsay Mast and Lee Jones are our feature editors. Paul Butler is executive producer and Bless Editor in Chief. The world and everything in it comes to you from World Radio. World's mission is biblically objective journalism that informs, educates and inspires. The Bible says for the word of the cross is folly to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved, it is the power of God. Verse 18 of First Corinthians, chapter 1. This weekend, don't miss the joy of gathering with God's people in worship. Go to church, be encouraged, and be an encouragement. And Lord willing, we'll meet you right back here on Monday. Until then, go now in grace and peace.