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Myrna Brown
Good morning. Today on Culture Friday, a women's college deals with the fallout from its admissions policy, allowing in some men but not others.
Nick Eicher
John Stonestreet will be along in just a few minutes. Also today, World's Joseph Holmes reviews a family friendly murder mystery hitting theaters this weekend, featuring sheep as detectives.
John Stonestreet
You think you're brave enough to leave home? None of you have ever left this meadow. Your hooves have never touched anything but grass.
Nick Eicher
Later, world music critic Arsenio Orteza on a classical music label that takes a different approach.
Myrna Brown
It's Friday, May 8th. This is the World and everything in it from listener supported World Radio. I'm Myrna Brown.
Nick Eicher
And I'm Nick Iker. Good morning.
Myrna Brown
Up next, Kent Covington with today's news.
Kent Covington
U.S. forces struck Iranian targets Thursday after Iran's military attacked three US Navy destroyers on the Strait of Hormuz. Iranian forces fired missiles, drones and small boats at American ships, though the Pentagon says none were hit. The US Military responded by hitting Iranian launch sites and command centers. Meantime, at United nations headquarters Thursday, the U.S. asked the security Council to act on Iran's chokehold of the strait. Gulf ally Bahrain backed the push. It's UN Ambassador Jamal Faras Al Rawayhi.
Nick Eicher
The draft resolution calls for Iran to immediately cease all attacks and the threats against merchant and commercial vessels. The draft also addresses the placement of mines and illegal tolling in the strait.
Kent Covington
Russia and China vetoed a similar US Resolution in April. US Ambassador to the UN Mike Waltz
John Stonestreet
I know what decision the United States
Marco Rubio
is making, and we're choosing to stand with the freedom of navigation.
Nick Eicher
We're choosing to stand with international law.
Kent Covington
Iran yesterday created a new agency to vet and tax shipping through the Strait of Hormuz. Despite Thursday's clash in the strait, the US Says it is not seeking escalation or a restart of the war. That came one day after President Trump on Wednesday said that a peace deal could come with Iran within a week. Tehran says it is still reviewing the latest US Proposal. Meantime, in Lebanon, rescue teams searched through the rubble Thursday after officials there claim that an overnight Israeli airstrike destroyed a residential building. The Israeli military said the strike took out Ahmed Bolut, a top commander in the Hezbollah terror group. Hezbollah did not immediately comment on the claim. Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu says the terrorist leader likely thought incorrectly that he had immunity from Israeli attacks in Beirut. That operation marked the first time Israel has struck inside of Beirut since a ceasefire was announced with the Lebanese government on April 17. Secretary of State Marco Rubio sat down Thursday with Pope Leo XIV at the Vatican. It was the first sit down between the Trump administration and the new pope in nearly a year.
Marco Rubio
Mr. Secretary, good to see you.
Arsenio Orteza
Good morning.
Marco Rubio
It was almost a year that I was here with you.
Kent Covington
The visit followed weeks of friction between the White House and the Holy See over the Iran war. The two leaders talked about the persecution of Christians around the world and peace in the Middle east, among other things. Pope Leo gave Rubio an olive wood pen, calling it the plant of peace. Powerful storms spawned at least three tornadoes that tore through several Mississippi counties. Authorities say storms damaged nearly 500 homes and injured at least 17 people. World's Kim Henderson visited the storm ravaged area and files this report.
Kim Henderson
As tornadoes tore across the South Wednesday night, phone alerts pushed Mississippi residents Josh and Mara Pugh to take cover.
Harrison Waters
Imminent threat, which I've never received from anything.
Myrna Brown
And it was like three, it was
Kim Henderson
like three back to back to back
Myrna Brown
notifications of you need to get in a safe space. Yeah.
Kim Henderson
They huddled in a closet, the storm raging outside.
Nick Eicher
I mean, you could feel the ground shaking.
Harrison Waters
It was rumbling.
Kim Henderson
Their scare lasted barely 30 seconds. But in the light of day, the Pew's neighborhood is almost unrecogniz. Hundreds of trees are on the ground, power lines tangled in their limbs. Metal roofing litters yards and fields. The steeple on the church down the street is hanging from its roof. While Mississippi reported no fatalities Thursday, recovery is expected to be slow. Impassable roads have delayed workers trying to reach the hardest hit areas, and many residents remain without electricity, some without running water as well. Reporting for WORLD I'm Kim Henderson in Monticello, Mississippi.
Kent Covington
Health officials on four continents are racing to track down passengers from a cruise ship hit by a deadly outbreak of the hantavirus. Tests now confirm that the strain is the Andes virus, which officials say is the only known hantavirus that can spread person to person. Three passengers have died and the head of the World Health Organization, Tedros Gabriel, said given the incubation period of the
John Stonestreet
Andis virus, which can be up to six weeks, it's possible that more cases may be reported.
Kent Covington
The ship left Argentina last month. About 30 passengers disembarked at the remote island of St. Helena before the outbreak was detected, and authorities are now tracing their contacts. But officials say that the global risk remains low. Person to person spread of the Andes strain of the virus is rare. It only happens in about 2 to 5% of cases. Tennessee Republicans passed a new congressional map Thursday, one that could flip the state's last Democrat held U.S. house seat, possibly giving the GOP all nine Tennessee districts that came as Democrats loudly objected and protesters shouted outside. It is the first major redistricting since last week's U.S. supreme Court ruling that limited the use of race in drawing district lines. Republican State Senator John Stevens said in no uncertain terms the maps were drawn
John Stonestreet
to maximize the potential Republican partisan advantage.
Kent Covington
Governor Bill Lee signed the map. It splits the congressional district in Memphis held by Democrat Steve Cohen into three Republican leaning districts, Louisiana, Florida and Texas. Republicans have also moved to add more Republican leaning seats, while Democrats in California and Virginia have moved to do the same for their party on Capitol Hill
Nick Eicher
and Lord, we pray for a revival in this nation.
Kent Covington
Political and faith leaders marked the 75th National Day of Prayer in the Capitol's Statuary Hall. World's Harrison Waters has more from Washington.
Harrison Waters
House Speaker Mike Johnson told attendees the event's theme, taken from 1 Chronicles 16:24, is not rhetorical.
Kent Covington
It says, tell of God's glory among
Nick Eicher
the nations, his good deeds to all people.
Kent Covington
As Americans of faith, we see that as our responsibility.
Harrison Waters
Several prayed not only for the United States but for Israel as well. And a Jewish rabbi joined Christian pastors and lawmakers in asking for God's blessing. But others questioned whether God can continue blessing a nation that denies his authority and fails to respect the sanctity of human life. Presbyterian pastor Robert Pacienza I believe it
Joseph Holmes
will require the people of God to
Nick Eicher
rededicate themselves, to repent
Arsenio Orteza
and get on their bended knee before Almighty God and
John Stonestreet
once again acknowledge God as the Lord.
Harrison Waters
Congress first established an observance for the National Day of prayer in 1952 under President Harry Truman. This year, more than 19,000 coordinators organized prayer events nationwide. Reporting for World, I'm Harrison Waters in Washington.
Kent Covington
And I'm Kent Covington. Straight ahead, Culture Friday with John Stonestreet. And later, a classical music label that takes a different approach. This is the world and everything in it.
Myrna Brown
It's Friday, May 8th. Glad to have you along for today's edition of the World and Everything in It. Good morning. I'm Myrna Brown.
Nick Eicher
And I'm Nick Icker. It's Culture Friday. John Stonestreet is here. John is president of the Colson center and host of the Breakpoint Podcast. John, good morning.
John Stonestreet
Good morning.
Nick Eicher
Well, John, a long running cultural debate is now on a collision course with federal law. The Trump administration this week opened a civil rights and investigation into Smith College. That's the women's college in western Massachusetts. But here is the twist. Smith is not being investigated for excluding women. It's nothing like that it's being investigated for admitting men, some men, but not other men. The issue you've probably guessed by now is transgender admissions. Smith admitting male students who identify as women, and the administration saying the. That once a women's college expands the word woman to include men, then the legal category just becomes a nullity. It just collapses. So imagine being general counsel for Smith College, John, and you're facing this inquiry. If a women's college admits some men, then on what basis does it exclude the rest of men? How do you deal with that, Counselor?
John Stonestreet
If I were general counsel for Smith, what I would say is, if you're at the point of putting yourself in a. A multi layered administrative mess and then complaining because you got to figure it out, I mean, this is all pretty predictable because reality is still what reality is. And, and so if you can rightly, you know, claim that is discrimination, you know, not to allow some men, then you have no basis upon which to say, then it's not discrimination when you choose some and not others based on some other random worry. So, look, I. You can see this too, in Senate hearing after Senate hearing when, you know, folks ask, can you define what a woman is? And the questioner just pretends like it's a nonsensical question that doesn't need to be answered or it's above their pay grade, or, you know, all kinds of other ways that they're responding to it. Like, this is not a mess, that the people who are asking the question made up. This is a fabricated conversation made by those who are confused by these things, and then they complain about having the conversation. So I guess my advice as an attorney is, you made this bed, you gotta sleep in it.
Nick Eicher
Well, you know, one part of the story, John, as the New York Times bravely framed it, was this careful assignment of who wears the black hat, who wears the white hat. This sentence was really a beauty. The inquiry broadens the Trump administration's bid to limit rights for the nation's transgender students by targeting school admissions for the first time. Now there's a journalistic sentence doing a lot of work, is it not?
John Stonestreet
A ton of work. A ton of historical work. A ton of historical revisionist work. So what were all the other previous administrations prior to three or five years ago doing? You know, by kind of having these kind of fixed categories? This is a conversation that was forced on the American people against our will. And now that the conversation has been forced on us, legitimate questions are being asked. And those who force the conversation don't want to have it. And that's kind of the strange math behind all this.
Nick Eicher
You know, John, a few moments ago you mentioned congressional hearings, and I want to bring in another one. This one involves Congressman Brandon Gill of Texas questioning a witness brought in to defend the pro abortion position. Congressman Gill did not ask about slogans or legal abstractions. He asked about methods. And the exchange really forced a question that abortion rhetoric usually works very hard to avoid. Speaking of avoiding conversations, what exactly is happening inside the abortion business now? A warning. This is a little difficult to listen to, but it should be difficult to listen to.
Marco Rubio
You're an advocate for abortion, for abortion policy. What's your favorite type of abortion?
John Stonestreet
I am an advocate for patients having
Joseph Holmes
access to the full realm of reproductive health care.
Marco Rubio
But do you have a preferred method of abortion that you like?
John Stonestreet
I do not.
Marco Rubio
Let me read through a couple different methods, and I want to get your take on how much you like these. How about this one? It's called the saline injection. It's when a 20% salt solution is injected through the mother's abdomen into the baby's amniotic fluid. The baby's skin is burned off. The baby ingests the solution and dies of salt poisoning, dehydration, and hemorrhaging of the brain. Do you prefer that method?
Kent Covington
I would prefer to talk about the
Myrna Brown
subject of the hearing.
Marco Rubio
This is the subject of the hearing. This is about protests outside of abortion clinics. I'm asking you about abortion.
John Stonestreet
I stand by my prior testimony.
Joseph Holmes
Okay.
Marco Rubio
I wouldn't want to talk about this either if I were you.
Nick Eicher
Well, John, people complain about performative politicians and grandstanding and congressional hearings, and often with good reason. But this seemed different to me. If you're going to use the hearing room to make a point, make this point. Do it this way. Right.
John Stonestreet
Do it this way. Because the conversation was really about a witness basically talking about how morally reprehensible it was for anyone to prevent access to an abortion clinic or to, you know, be within even a certain range of the clinic and expressing disagreement as a way of, you know, emotionally pressuring. And that that was something that was morally beyond the pale. And the ability of the abortion issue to basically obscure the real moral questions has always been a remarkable thing. It would be super interesting in, like, the history of etymology and social conditioning if it weren't talking about something like dismembering a preborn child. Because think about that. The moral outrage from the witness was about prohibiting access to this clinic while saying that she had no moral comment at all about what was happening in the clinic. And just the history in this issue, the ability of advocates to basically obscure the horrific nature of surgical abortions is just really an incredible part of this story. The whole time. And hidden evil flourishes. Evil has to be exposed. And that's always uncomfortable. It seems like a bad day when it happens, but it's always a better day when hidden evil is exposed than the day before when it is allowed to remain hidden.
Myrna Brown
Well, John, when I was a little girl, I played with dolls. My little 17 month old granddaughter, she plays with dolls. It's the cutest thing. It's child's play. But I am just not sure what to call what I've been reading about recently. Grown women collecting very lifelike baby dolls, which by the way, are quite expensive, thousands of dollars. But not only collecting them, participating in some very elaborate role playing. I'm talking putting the dolls to bed, giving them baths, strapping them into car seats and running errands with them. All of which is recorded and posted to social media. Is this yet another example of the culture that devalues babies and children? Or, I don't know, should we just chalk it up to an expensive hobby?
John Stonestreet
I wish I, you know, you kind of want to do a psychological analysis and be able to answer that question because maybe for some it is just an expensive hobby. But what makes an expensive hobby like this even thinkable or plausible or interesting to people, right? I mean, obviously dolls have been present across generations and times and places. And you do not have kind of elaborate scenarios like this in which grown women who in other times and places would themselves be mothering real children would pretend and role play like this. The exception that I know of is a particular community in Japan that was dying. It was a town that was dying. And there you had a number of older women that had populated their town with dolls like this. Now, you know, you walk into a near ghost town and see a whole bunch of dolls like that's the stuff of a horror movie, right? That's super creepy. But for them, it was missing the noise, it was missing the voice and the cries and the laughs of children. It was missing the presence of it and trying to bring it in. But the reality that was behind it all was a demographic winter that had overtaken that community. There are too many other trend lines here that are connected to our antinatalist society, our impulses to really only have children if you want them. That puts this in a larger context for me.
Myrna Brown
Well, John, I know you are a sports fan. I want to talk about World Opinions contributor Ray Hackey's piece on WNBA romances and reporters reporting on them. So here's the scenario. Two WNBA players on the same team go public with their lesbian relationship. At a press conference, a reporter asks one of the players had she sought advice from other couples in the league. The PR person immediately shot that question down, sparking a hot button topic in the sports world. As one outlet put it, you drafted a literal power couple to be your backcourt. You cannot market the chemistry for ticket sales and then act shocked when people ask about the drama. What do you think?
John Stonestreet
Well, yeah, I mean, listen, it's a marketing technique, except, you know, when it's not and the desire here is to use it for marketing purposes. So as long as it's good, it's good. And then other than that, it's not. This is a unique situation. So this is a problem within the larger wnba. And as Ray also pointed out, the WNBA has other problems, namely financial ones. I guess at some level you look at all of these things and you're like, these aren't bugs of the system. These are features like, this is what comes with the package that we've been sold within this. And it's a real shame because the WNBA is undergoing a new day, a new day of talent, a new day of excellence in terms of ability to play the game. And they want to actually shoot that in the foot too, by not highlighting the players that are actually bringing the attention to the league. It's just a lot of strange things going on, I think, which kind of points to an inherently broken system to begin with.
Nick Eicher
All right. John Stonestreet is president of the Colson center and host of the Breakpoint Podcast. John, thanks. We'll see you next week.
John Stonestreet
Thank you both.
Kent Covington
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Nick Eicher
A reminder that tomorrow we have a special weekend edition of the World and everything in it. You can hear a longer interview with JP DeGance. We talked with him earlier this week. His work focuses on strengthening marriages and reducing divorce. Listen to that wherever you get your podcasts. Today is Friday, May 8th. Thank you for turning to World Radio to help start your day. Good morning. I'm Nick Iger.
Myrna Brown
And I'm Myrna Brown. Coming next on the World and everything in it, a new family friendly murder mystery hits theaters this weekend. It's racking up rave reviews from critics, but world reviewer Joseph Holmes says the film has some problematic secular messages.
Joseph Holmes
The Sheep Detectives is the new family friendly murder mystery from Amazon and MGM about sheep who solved their shepherd's murder. It's the kind of movie that's both enjoyable and a little disappointing. Hugh Jackman plays George, a shepherd who loves reading murder mysteries to his sheep, never suspecting that they can understand him. When George dies under mysterious circumstances, the sheep decide to solve the crime themselves, even if it means facing the fact that the human world isn't as simple as it appears in books.
Arsenio Orteza
I'll read the ending tomorrow.
Joseph Holmes
Why would he stop there? He was just about to say who the killer was. The Sheep Detectives is a fun film from start to finish. The jokes come at a rapid pace and almost all land. The characters, both the sheep and the small town inhabitants found in every classic murder mystery are well developed and engaging. The elements of the murder mystery stay simple and light for children, but the film doesn't lose any of the great twists or stakes. Characters, including George, die and stay dead, but the deaths are no more difficult to watch than those in other family movies like the Lion King or the Incredibles. Most characters are admirable and sympathetic, but also flawed. Lily, voiced by Julia Louise Dreyfus, is the smartest sheep and leader, but she can also sometimes be cowardly. Sebastian, voiced by Bryan Cranston, has a moral spine but is too pessimistic to lead.
John Stonestreet
You think you're brave enough to leave home? None of you have ever left this meadow. Your hooves have never touched anything but grass. What's so hard about leaving home?
Nick Eicher
We're not scared.
Myrna Brown
Mappo, what is that?
Joseph Holmes
I think it's a road.
John Stonestreet
But what is it made of?
Nick Eicher
Well, not grass.
Joseph Holmes
I can tell you that the movie uses its sheep centric narrative for some moral themes that are surprisingly mature in a good way. In this film, sheep have the superpower of being able to forget things by choice, which they use to forget things that make them sad. But instead of forgetting the sadness of their owner's death, they make the heroic decision to remember the sad truth, to bring his killer to justice and save their flock. Because of this, we're reminded of our own responsibility to choose sad truths over happy lies.
Arsenio Orteza
You go on ahead.
Nick Eicher
Why are you yelling?
Joseph Holmes
I'm only a few feet away from you.
Myrna Brown
But it feels so far.
Joseph Holmes
Sadly, the filmmakers also seem to include anti religious messages. One of the feel good fantasies the sheep abandoned is that sheep become clouds instead of dying. This new facing reality about death doesn't involve replacing it with a more true understanding of the afterlife. Rather, the film says the sheep keep the person they love alive through their memory. This assertion makes other references to Christianity feel less in good faith and more like mocking dismissal. A flawed priest features prominently in the story, and when he admits his own sin, he refers to himself as a bad shepherd. And in an extended joke, the sheep express confusion over biblical metaphors. God is a shepherd who's also bred, but also invisible. The film also pushes other ideas parents may find questionable. The sheep partly solved the case by deciding to ignore evidence because one of the sheep looked into a suspect's eyes and knew they weren't guilty. The sheep's instinct, we're told, is more reliable than the evidence or even other sheep's intuition because he's been marginalized. The implication we can and should ignore evidence if it contradicts the intuition of someone who's historically marginalized. It's an ironically anti intellectual message for a movie that implies religion is anti intellectual. What are you up to?
Myrna Brown
It may be nothing, but I can't
Kim Henderson
stop thinking about George's hat and raincoat.
Joseph Holmes
What hat and raincoat?
Kim Henderson
Exactly. He came out in a storm. Why didn't he put them on?
Joseph Holmes
On the whole, the Sheep Detectives is one of the most entertaining family movies I've seen in a while. But viewers will have to decide if its attitude toward religion is an opportunity. Opportunity for fruitful conversation or a reason to dismiss the film the way the film seems to dismiss Christian belief. I'm Joseph Holmes.
Myrna Brown
Good morning. This is the World and everything in it from listener supported World Radio, I'm Myrna Brown.
Nick Eicher
And I'm Nick Eicher. Coming next on the World and everything in it, classical music without compromise. Edgardo Vertinesian and his wife Marina Rebecca made a name for themselves early on in their respective musical fields. But before long, both were ready for a change. Together they launched their own classical music label, Prima Classic, and decided to do things a little differently. World's music critic Arsenio Ortezza got the inside story.
Arsenio Orteza
Edgardo Vertinesian first got acquainted with the mechanics of recorded sound as a high school student in Argentina. He still had a typical teenage boy's tastes.
John Stonestreet
You take a mortal man.
Arsenio Orteza
This is Symphony of Destruction by Megadeth, one of Vertinesian's favorite bands at the time. He also liked Metallica, Guns N Roses and German power metal. But at 18, he got a job at a classical music studio. And he made what he calls a mind blowing discovery about the roots of his favorite metal musicians.
Edgardo Vertinesian
All those guys practice with Vivaldi and with Bach and that's how they do all the really, really fast solos, all those scales. And I thought to myself, wow, this is it.
Arsenio Orteza
Vertinesian was working as an assistant mastering engineer and would have continued doing so, but the pay wasn't great. So he moved to Cleveland, began working for the live audio giant 8th day sound. He rapidly became an in demand designer and calibrator of large scale live sound systems with satisfied clients including Taylor Swift, Madonna, Jay Z and Drake. Then he made another discovery.
Edgardo Vertinesian
Every time I had a day off, I would go to the opera theater, whatever city I was in, and go to the opera. So in a way I was paying the bills with live sound. But at some point in life, my heart moved on to opera and classical music.
Arsenio Orteza
In 2018, he married the Latvian operatic soprano Marina Rebecca and together they founded the label Prima Classic. This is Rebecca performing a selection from the Bellini opera Norma on Prima Classics debut release Speedy Toe. It's the first Prima Classic music that anyone heard and it set the label's quality bar pretty high.
Edgardo Vertinesian
Our identity is beauty. Our mission is we distribute beauty in the form of music. And although we do some contemporary, more abstract things, we tend to stay in music that anyone can listen to and find it beautiful.
Arsenio Orteza
An example of the more abstract things is Gratitude, an album of Latvian compositions performed by a Latvian saxophonist. An example of music that anyone can find beautiful is Daylight, by the Latvian pianist Zincheira Erliha. In case you're wondering, Prima Classic doesn't release music only by Latvians. Of its more than 100 albums, about 75% are by musicians of other nationalities. But it's hard to deny that an exceptional amount of exciting music is currently coming from Latvia.
Edgardo Vertinesian
They are a million and a half people living there and their output per capita is, I think is the highest of top level classical musicians. It's the highest in the planet. You get some. Some of the best singers in the world come from there.
Arsenio Orteza
Opera singers perhaps. What most says Prima Classic apart from other classical labels, is its business model. Every year, thousands of new classical recordings get released. But because of relatively low consumer demand, the economics only work because most musicians shoulder the recording and production cost costs themselves, leaving labels with the relatively easy and relatively inexpensive tasks of manufacturing and distribution.
Nick Eicher
And we don't believe in that.
Edgardo Vertinesian
We believe in, we're going to take care of it, we're going to produce it. And we're going to do. We do, you know, great sound, we've got great equipment, we're very particular with edits. We want always the best takes to go into the recording. So if we need a little more time to take to do it, we'll take more time.
Arsenio Orteza
Beauty, in other words, not profit, is the label's primary goal. And it seems that if you aim for the former, the latter will take care of itself. I'm arsenio ortezz.
Nick Eicher
Hey, before we go, congratulations are in order to our World runners who competed in the Media Capital Challenge three mile race in Washington. We had two teams entered from World. The first one team Thou Shalt Not Pass.
Myrna Brown
Yes. And that group featured World arts and culture editor Colin Gabbarino and reporters Will Fliesen, Josh Schumacher, Joanna Enscoe, and Juliana Chan Erickson.
Nick Eicher
By the way, I need to add, that group outpaced npr, so we left them in the dust. That's great. I love that. The other team from World was Team Godspeed. That group included an individual achiever, our Washington producer, Harrison Waters. He took the title fastest podcast journalist. That will forever be yours, man. Way to go. How about that?
Myrna Brown
Yay, Harrison. And along with him, and a few strides behind, his wife and WJI assistant director Naomi Waters, film reviewer Max Bells, legal beagle Jenny Ruff, and reporter Lauren Smith. Congratulations, y'. All. You made us proud.
Nick Eicher
All right, and time now to name the rest of the crew who helped out with this week's. Mary Reichard, David Bonson, Lauren Canterbury, Mary Munsey, Hunter Baker, Amy Etchison, Janie B. Cheney, Daniel Sir Cal Thomas, Joseph Holmes, John Stonestreet, Arsenio Orteza man and Josh Gagne. Thanks also to our breaking news crew, Kent Covington, Steve Klosterman, Travis Kircher, Daniel Devine and Christina Grube. Thanks also to the moonlight maestros, tech producers Benj Eicher and Carl Peetz. Emma Eicher is assistant producer. Kristen Flavin is features editor. Lindsay Mast is producer. I'm executive producer Nick Eicher. No runner mi.
Myrna Brown
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Episode Title: 5.8.26 The federal investigation into Smith College, a review of The Sheep Detectives, and a classical music label focused on beauty
Date: May 8, 2026
Hosts: Myrna Brown & Nick Eicher
Key Contributors: John Stonestreet, Joseph Holmes, Arsenio Orteza, Kent Covington
This episode dives into several major cultural and news topics:
These segments are woven in with current news coverage, biblical cultural analysis, and expert commentary.
The Trump administration has launched an investigation into Smith College, a women’s institution in Massachusetts, for its admissions policy: allowing some men (those identifying as women) but not others.
The heart of the inquiry: Once a women’s college expands “woman” to include biological men, on what grounds can it exclude all other men?
“If a women’s college admits some men, then on what basis does it exclude the rest of men? How do you deal with that, Counselor?” – Nick Eicher (09:52)
John Stonestreet highlights the logical tangle created when fixed categories are abandoned for subjective identity:
“If you can rightly claim that is discrimination, not to allow some men, then you have no basis upon which to say ... it’s not discrimination when you choose some and not others.” (10:22)
Stonestreet emphasizes these dilemmas were predictable outcomes of denying biological realities, arguing the “administrative mess” is self-inflicted.
He critiques media framing, especially The New York Times, for historical revisionism and one-sided narratives.
“This is a conversation that was forced on the American people against our will. And now ... legitimate questions are being asked. And those who forced the conversation don’t want to have it.” (11:47)
Congressman Brandon Gill (Texas) directly asks a pro-abortion witness about her preferred abortion method; the exchange sheds light on rhetoric versus reality.
Gill: “What’s your favorite type of abortion?” (12:58)
Witness: “I am an advocate for patients having access to the full realm of reproductive health care.” (13:07)
When Gill describes particularly brutal methods, the witness repeatedly avoids the questions.
Gill: “I wouldn’t want to talk about this either if I were you.” (13:53)
Stonestreet argues such exchanges are necessary to expose the hidden realities and moral gravity behind sanitized abortion language.
“The moral outrage from the witness was about prohibiting access ... while saying she had no moral comment at all about what was happening in the clinic.” (14:34)
“Hidden evil flourishes. Evil has to be exposed ... It’s always a better day when hidden evil is exposed than the day before when it is allowed to remain hidden.” (15:19)
(21:14–26:26)
Rapid-fire jokes, developed characters.
Stakes appropriate for children; death is addressed no more harshly than in films like “The Lion King.”
The main moral theme: Facing sad truths is more courageous than clinging to comforting lies.
“Because of this, we’re reminded of our own responsibility to choose sad truths over happy lies.” – Joseph Holmes (23:26)
The film’s attitude toward religion is described as flippant or dismissive.
Suggests remembering loved ones as the sole response to death, without a genuinely substantive alternative to Christian belief.
Promotes anti-intellectual approaches: The sheep sometimes ignore evidence in favor of gut feeling, especially when a marginalized character’s intuition is involved.
“…The implication: We can and should ignore evidence if it contradicts the intuition of someone who’s historically marginalized. It’s an ironically anti-intellectual message for a movie that implies religion is anti-intellectual.” – Joseph Holmes (24:44)
Arsenio Orteza reports on Edgardo Vertinesian and his wife Marina Rebecca, their transition from mainstream live sound and performance to forming their own classical label.
Vertinesian’s musical journey: From heavy metal roots to opera and classical music.
“All those guys practice with Vivaldi and with Bach ... I thought to myself, wow, this is it.” – Edgardo Vertinesian (27:36)
The label’s mission: Distribute “beauty in the form of music” rather than chasing profit.
“Our identity is beauty. Our mission is we distribute beauty in the form of music.” – Vertinesian (28:55)
“We don’t believe in that. We believe we’re going to take care of it, we’re going to produce it ... we want always the best takes.” – Vertinesian (30:54)
Stonestreet on the legal paradox at Smith College:
“You made this bed, you gotta sleep in it.” (10:45)
On abortion hearing testimony:
“I wouldn’t want to talk about this either if I were you.” – Congressman Gill (13:53)
On the film "The Sheep Detectives":
“Viewers will have to decide if its attitude toward religion is an opportunity for fruitful conversation or a reason to dismiss the film.” – Joseph Holmes (25:47)
Vertinesian on classical music:
“Beauty, in other words, not profit, is the label’s primary goal. And it seems that if you aim for the former, the latter will take care of itself.” – Arsenio Orteza (31:11)
The discussion balances respectful, biblically grounded cultural critique with journalistic rigor and engaging storytelling. The hosts’ conversational warmth and incisive questioning guide expert analysts to unpack complex topics in accessible language.
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