7.28.26 Saudi nuclear questions, religious speech and tribal authority, campus abortion push, and Ryan Bomberger’s new book

Summary

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Podcast Summary: The World and Everything In It

Episode: 7.28.26 Saudi nuclear questions, religious speech and tribal authority, campus abortion push, and Ryan Bomberger’s new book
Date: July 28, 2026
Host: WORLD Radio Team (Mary Reichert & Nick Eicher)

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Episode Overview

This episode covers several significant topics:

• The U.S.–Saudi nuclear energy agreement and its potential geopolitical risks;
• A religious freedom controversy on a Wyoming Native American reservation;
• The expansion of abortion pill access on California college campuses;
• An interview with Ryan Bomberger discussing his pro-life activism and new memoir;
• Analysis of New York’s assisted suicide law and its impact on religious medical providers.

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Key Segments and Discussion Points

1. News Headlines & International Developments

[01:01–05:13]

• Middle East Ceasefire Diplomacy:
  President Trump claims progress in U.S.–Iran ceasefire negotiations, noting Iran asked the U.S. to stop military action. Iran publicly denies seeking a renewed truce. Diplomatic efforts are brokered by Qatar and Pakistan.

  • Quote (Trump):
    “Iran took a beating over the last 14 days and they asked us very nicely, please stop, let's be. And that's what we are right now.” [01:19–01:27]

• UK-Ukraine Relations:
  New British PM Andy Burnham pledges continued military support for Ukraine in a meeting with President Zelenskyy.

  • Quote (Zelenskyy):
    "Our relationship with the UK is stronger than ever." [02:16–02:18]
  • Burnham to “honor every commitment Britain has made to Ukraine.”

• Extreme U.S. Heatwave:
  Record heat spanning from the central Gulf Coast through the Southwest, with temperatures up to 110°F and at least 70 heat-related deaths this month.

  • Quote (Josh Weiss, Weather Prediction Center):
    “We’re looking at high temperatures that will be 100 to 105, maybe locally 110 degrees...” [03:06–03:12]

• Nigeria Massacre:
  At least 30 villagers, mostly Christian, killed by armed gunmen. Repeated Christian persecution in the region highlighted.

• European Wildfires:
  France and Spain battle devastating wildfires; over 220,000 evacuations near Bordeaux, France; heat wave aggravates the crisis.

  • “France's worst fire crisis since World War II.” [04:25]

• Cracker Barrel CEO Resigns:
  Leader steps down after failed rebranding; replaced by industry veteran David Dino.

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2. U.S.–Saudi Nuclear Energy Agreement

[06:20–10:30]

• Deal Overview:
  The Trump administration announces plans for a “123 agreement” with Saudi Arabia, allowing U.S. companies to build civilian nuclear reactors in the kingdom.

  • Chris Wright (Energy Secretary):
    “President Trump's agenda in the Middle East has been commerce, not conflict. Saudi Arabia has been an ally...I'm thrilled in our efforts and where this is going.” [06:34–06:46]

• Supporters’ View:
  Deal maintains U.S. influence against China and Russia’s regional ambitions.

• Critics’ Concerns:
  Henry Sokolosky (Non-Proliferation Policy Education Center) raises alarms about Saudi intentions—questioning why an energy-rich country needs nuclear energy and warning about future uranium enrichment and regional nuclear proliferation.

  • Quote:
    “This is not a country without alternatives...when you do the economic analyses, they're cheaper.” [08:21–08:40]
  • On regional risks:
    “It could be a rather crowded, nuclear edgy neighborhood.” [09:43]

• Proliferation Safeguards:
  U.S. asserts no enrichment technology will be transferred; all sensitive work remains within the U.S.

  • Quote (Ambassador Mike Waltz):
    “There is no enrichment technology being provided to the Saudis that will be done here in the United States.” [08:56–09:11]

• Geopolitical Hurdles:
  Trump links ratification to Saudi Arabia joining the Abraham Accords and recognizing Israel, a step the Saudis refuse without Palestinian statehood.

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3. Religious Freedom vs. Tribal Authority – Wyoming Controversy

[10:30–14:54]

• Background:
  Foundations for Nations, a Christian ministry, faced expulsion from the Wind River Reservation after pastor Sarah Lucas criticized tribal religious ceremonies in a sermon clip that went viral.

• Native Opposition:
  Activists, including Alice Thomas, protest Lucas’s comments as disrespectful to Arapaho traditions.

  • Quote (Thomas):
    “Our traditions, our culture and our ceremonies were an abomination. She made several disrespectful comments to our pipe and to our ancestors…” [11:46–12:04]

• Sermon Excerpt:
  Sarah Lucas challenged the power of traditional practices vs Jesus:

  • Quote (Lucas):
    “Jesus is the chain breaker. He is the only God that we should be praying to. A pipe can't not hear your prayers.” [12:10–12:31]

• Church’s Response:
  Lucas claims the clip was taken out of context but affirms the message. She insists her ministry aims to bring spiritual, not just social, transformation.

  • Quote:
    “We didn’t come out here to give good programming. We came out here to see a nation come to know Jesus because we know that's the answer…” [13:09–13:17]

• Escalation:
  Lucas reports vandalism, rising tensions, and even death threats, but is determined to stay. Her ministry has secured legal representation and plans to fight the expulsion.

• Outlook:
  Lucas sees possible spiritual revival amid conflict:

  • Quote:
    “We're believing we're going to see revival out of this...it's exciting. It's exciting.” [14:45–14:54]

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4. California Moves to Expand Abortion Pill Access on Campuses

[16:28–20:45]

• Policy Expansion:
  California may require 92 community colleges to provide abortion pills, building on a recent law covering public universities—impacting up to 2 million students.

  • Pro-life critique (Mary Rose Short - California Right to Life):
    “It plays into that idea of this is a critical part of being a student.” [18:06]

• Health and Safety Concerns:
  Community college officials say most campus clinics lack resources for safe administration (e.g., ultrasounds, physicians). Studies show up to 10% rate of serious complications.

• Alternatives and Activism:
  Christian Allen (Students for Life) runs the “Standing with You” directory to ensure students are aware of pregnancy resources and alternatives to abortion.

  • Quote:
    “It's in those small moments we can convince someone to not abort, to choose life...” [20:31]

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5. Feature Interview: Ryan Bomberger’s Journey and Memoir

[22:39–28:34]

• Book Title and Origin:
  Ryan’s new memoir, "Should Have Been Aborted," recounts learning at age 13 that he was conceived in rape and adopted. The title is inspired by recurring encounters with people telling him he “should have been aborted,” including at a Harvard debate.

  • Quote:
    “I want to disprove the world's mindset, the world's lie, that somehow if you're unplanned, you're going to be unwanted, you're going to be unloved because it's so untrue.” [26:26]

• Identity, Faith, and Struggle:
  As a teen, Ryan wrestled with self-worth and perfectionism but credits his loving, faith-centered, multi-racial adoptive family and God’s love with grounding him.

  • Quote:
    “...it was being set free from [depression] that also solidified the truth that I am wanted, I am loved, I'm fearfully, wonderfully made like anyone else...” [24:07]

• Family:
  Bomberger is the first of 10 adopted children (13 siblings total). He describes his parents’ intentional, loving approach as pivotal.

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6. Religious Liberty and New York’s Assisted Suicide Law

[29:25–32:54]

• Legal Tensions:
  Though New York’s new law includes a conscience clause for medical workers, it compels all practitioners to inform patients about assisted suicide and facilitate transfers for those seeking lethal drugs. Many religious groups and Catholic institutions are suing the state to secure broader protections.

• Voices from the Lawsuit:

  • Sister Catherine Marie Couth (Dominican Sisters of Hawthorne):
    “Our care is given out of our love for Christ, our consecration to Christ, and our care given to them is an expression of that love.” [31:09]
  • Becket Fund attorney (Benjamin Fleshman):
    “It really is critical that people understand the need to accommodate religious objectors. That goes back to the very best of our traditions as an American society...” [31:58]

• Spiritual and Legal Stakes:
  Catholic leaders and their attorneys warn that penalizing faithful health workers undermines a millennia-old mission of compassionate care.

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7. Memorable Human Interest Moment

[21:08–22:32]

• Wilt Chamberlain’s Lakers Jacket Thrift Store Find: Teen finds a Lakers warmup jacket in a Portland thrift store for $3; authenticated as Wilt Chamberlain’s 1972 NBA Finals jacket, sold for nearly $90,000.

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Notable Quotes

• “President Trump’s agenda in the Middle east has been commerce, not conflict...and I’m thrilled in our efforts and where this is going.”
  — Chris Wright, Energy Secretary [06:34]

• “This is not a country without alternatives...when you do the economic analyses, they're cheaper.”
  — Henry Sokolosky, Non-Proliferation Policy Education Center [08:21]

• “Our traditions, our culture...our ceremonies were an abomination. She made several disrespectful comments to our pipe and to our ancestors.”
  — Alice Thomas, Northern Arapaho activist [11:46]

• "Jesus is the chain breaker. He is the only God that we should be praying to. A pipe can't not hear your prayers."
  — Sarah Lucas, Foundations for Nations pastor [12:10]

• “It's in those small moments we can convince someone to not abort, to choose life…”
  — Christian Allen, Students for Life [20:31]

• “I want to disprove the world’s mindset…that somehow if you’re unplanned, you’re going to be unwanted, you’re going to be unloved because it’s so untrue.”
  — Ryan Bomberger [26:26]

• "It really is critical that people understand the need to accommodate religious objectors...the best of our traditions as an American society..."
  — Becket Fund attorney Benjamin Fleshman [31:58]

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Timestamps for Major Segments

| Segment | Time | |-----------------------------------------|------------| | News Headlines & International | 01:01–05:13 | | U.S.–Saudi Nuclear Agreement | 06:20–10:30 | | Wyoming Religious Freedom Clash | 10:30–14:54 | | Abortion Pill Access in CA Campuses | 16:28–20:45 | | Thrift Store Find: Chamberlain Jacket | 21:08–22:32 | | Ryan Bomberger Memoir Interview | 22:39–28:34 | | New York Assisted Suicide Law | 29:25–32:54 |

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Tone

The podcast maintains a thoughtful, faith-informed, and occasionally urgent tone—balancing news analysis with personal testimony and cultural commentary.

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Conclusion

This episode provides a rich blend of investigative news coverage, in-depth interviews, and thoughtful Christian commentary—offering listeners key insights into international diplomacy, bioethics, religious liberty struggles, and the enduring value of every human life.

Transcript

[Mary Reichert]

Good morning. A new nuclear energy agreement with the Saudis.

[Ryan Bomberger]

President Trump's agenda in the Middle east has been commerce, not conflict. And I'm thrilled in where this is going.

[Nick Eicher]

Also today, California moves to expand abortion pill access on college campuses. And a conflict between a church ministry and tribal religious tradition brings a unique legal clash. Later, a conversation with pro lifer Ryan Bomberger on his new memoir, I Want

[Ryan Bomberger]

to disprove the world's Lie, that somehow if you're unplanned, you're going to be unwanted.

[Nick Eicher]

And world's Bethel McGrew on assisted suicide in New York.

[Mary Reichert]

It's Tuesday, July 28th. This is the world and everything in it from listener supported World Radio. I'm Mary Reichert.

[Nick Eicher]

And I'm Nick Iger. Good morning.

[Mary Reichert]

Up next, Kent Covington with today's news.

[Kent Covington]

American and Iranian forces have stopped shooting at each other for the time being, and now mediators are trying once again to make it stick. Qatar and Pakistan are carrying messages back and forth between Washington and Tehran. And officials in the region say diplomacy is on the right track. President Trump told reporters aboard Air Force

[Nick Eicher]

One, Iran took a beating over the last 14 days and they asked us very nicely, please stop, let's be. And that's what we are right now.

[Kent Covington]

Tehran publicly denies asking for a renewed ceasefire. Iran has continued to effectively shut down commercial traffic in the Strait of Hormuz even as it has stopped shooting at US Military bases in the region. President Trump says if the mediation fails, the US Goes back to bombing. Trump meets with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu at the White House today. The war in Ukraine has outlasted four British prime ministers. And on Monday in the UK President Volodymyr Zelenskyy met the fifth. Andy Burnham took office last week, and Zelenskyy is the first foreign leader he's hosted. They met aboard a British aircraft carrier where Burnham vowed to honor every commitment Britain has made to Ukraine. And Zelenskyy told reporters, our relationship with

[Nick Eicher]

the UK Is stronger than ever.

[Ryan Bomberger]

And I thank Andy for his commitment

[Nick Eicher]

to this partnership and for giving so much attention to defense and to our security.

[Kent Covington]

The two leaders talked about building drones together and about Ukraine's need for interceptors to shoot down incoming Russian ballistic missiles. Burnham is also handing Ukraine the designs for a British jamming system to help hide drones from Russian air defenses. Zelensky heads to the White House this week looking for more air defenses. Still no relief from the heat for millions of Americans. Josh Weiss with the Weather Prediction center says for most of this week through Friday the hottest temperatures will span an area from the central Gulf coast through Texas and up to Kansas and west to the Four Corners region. And exactly how hot will it be?

[Josh Weiss]

We're looking at high temperatures that will be 100 to 105, maybe locally 110 degrees, those air temperatures and then some areas that will produce heat indices that will be 110 to 115 degrees.

[Kent Covington]

But for the planes, Weiss says there is light at the end of the tunnel.

[Josh Weiss]

So if you're sitting in Kansas City or Oklahoma City, get through this week. It does look like it's going to relax a little bit as we head into the weekend. But if you're in the Southwest, Phoenix, Las Vegas, those areas, this is just beginning.

[Kent Covington]

Forecasters say daily records across the desert Southwest are in jeopardy. The Washington Post reports that this month's heat wave is already blamed for at least 70 deaths across numerous states. Gunmen in Nigeria have Massacred at least 30 people in a farming village, eight of them children. The attackers burned homes and shops in a rampage that lasted several hours. A Nigerian Christian group said the victims were mainly Christians and called it an act of terrorism. Armed groups have raided Christian villages in the region for years. And the Trump administration has named Nigeria one of the world's worst violators of religious freedom, adding it last year to a list of countries of particular concern for persecution. A wildfire in southwest France has stopped spreading but remains a serious threat. World's Kristen Flavin has more.

[Kristen Flavin]

The flames are still about nine miles away from Bordeaux, France's wine capital and a city of a quarter million people. The fire has burned an area four times the size of Paris and driven 220,000 people from their homes. President Emmanuel Macron calls it France's worst worst fire crisis since World War II. Spain is burning, too. A fire west of Madrid is the largest in Spanish history. At least one person has died there, and about 75,000 people have fled their homes. Roughly a dozen nations have sent planes and crews to help. But the weather isn't helping. A new heat wave arrives this week, topping 95 degrees in southwest France and 100 in Spain. For Worlds, I'm Kristen Flavin.

[Kent Covington]

The CEO of Cracker Barrel is stepping down nearly a year after a costly, failed rebrand of the restaurant and retail chain Julie Messino attempted to ditch Cracker Barrel's iconic logo and interior design for a new look that critics panned as corporate and homogenized. The company reversed course after longtime fans revolted. Mozino will step down as CEO next month, and David Dino will take her place. He's a former top executive of Bloomin Brands, which owns Outback Steakhouse, among other chains. And I'm Kent Covington. Coming up, California moves to expand abortion pill access on college campuses. And later, a conversation with pro lifer Ryan Bomberger on his new memoir, this Is the World and Everything In It.

[Nick Eicher]

It's Tuesday, July 28th. Glad to have you along for today's edition of THE WORLD and Everything In It. Good morning. I'm Nick Iger.

[Mary Reichert]

And I'm Mary Reichert. First up, a nuclear deal in the Middle East. The Trump administration last week announced steps for a nuclear partnership with Saudi Arabia Energy Secretary Chris Wright.

[Ryan Bomberger]

President Trump's agenda in the Middle east has been commerce, not conflict. Saudi Arabia has been an ally of the United States since the nation's forming. And I'm thrilled in our efforts and where this is going.

[Mary Reichert]

A new nuclear energy agreement could open the door for US Companies to help Saudi Arabia build civilian nuclear reactors. Under US Law, that kind of partnership requires requires a formal deal that spells out safeguards and limits. These are known as 1, 2, 3 agreements, named for the section of the Atomic Energy act that authorizes them.

[Nick Eicher]

Supporters say the Saudi agreement strengthens an important Middle east partnership and keeps America in the game as China and Russia compete for influence. Critics say any nuclear cooperation with the Saudis requires careful oversight. The new Saudi 123 agreement comes after years of negotiations. Henry Sokolsky is exhausting, executive director of the Non Proliferation Policy Education Center. He says the Biden administration tried but failed to get a similar deal.

[Henry Sokolosky]

They wanted the quid pro quo of Saudi Arabia recognizing Israel. When they didn't get that because of the massacre that occurred October 7th, they just backed off.

[Mary Reichert]

Talks restarted after an executive order last year requiring the Energy Department to export American nuclear technology to to at least 20 countries by 2029. Last week's deal would allow American companies to sell American made reactors and fuel assemblies to the Saudis. But the agreement also introduces the possibility the country could make its own nuclear fuel down the road. Sokolsky says the arrangement raises questions about Saudi Arabia's goals.

[Henry Sokolosky]

They're sitting on the world's some of the world's largest reserves of natural gas, a fair amount of oil, a whole heck of a lot of solar and a fair amount of wind. This is not a country without alternatives that actually when you do the economic analyses, they're cheaper.

[Nick Eicher]

But US Ambassador to the UN Mike Waltz told CBS on Sunday the deal is about giving Saudi Arabia civilian nuclear power, not a path to nuclear weapons. He also noted the US has worked similarly with other Gulf states, just like

[Ryan Bomberger]

we have with the United Arab Emirates. The 123 agreement that we've had for over a decade. There is no enrichment technology being provided to the Saudis that will be done here in the United States. It's some of our most sensitive technology.

[Mary Reichert]

The UAE committed not to enrich nuclear material, but Sokolsky says that could change if the US Sweetens the Saudi deal to allow future enrichment.

[Henry Sokolosky]

There is a proviso that says if we give a more generous set of terms to any of UAE neighbors, and surely that's Saudi Arabia, they the UAE gets to renegotiate or reopen negotiations for the terms of the deal.

[Mary Reichert]

He says that could incentivize other Middle east nations like Egypt and Turkey to increase their nuclear efforts as well.

[Henry Sokolosky]

It could be a rather crowded, nuclear edgy neighborhood.

[Nick Eicher]

But the Saudi deal now faces another hurdle. Shortly after announcing the deal, President Trump said the Saudis need to join the Abraham Accords with Israel. The Saudis have long insisted on the creation of a Palestinian state before they will recognize Israel. Joining the accords is not part of the current agreement, and Sokolsky worries it may be too late.

[Henry Sokolosky]

Once you have the deal, I think amending it is not really in the cards. You have to come up with a separate agreement of some sort.

[Nick Eicher]

The earliest the deal could go into effect once the president gives official notice to Congress, is December.

[Mary Reichert]

Coming up next on THE WORLD and Everything in it, a sermon clip goes viral. Tribal leaders object and a Christian ministry is ordered off a reservation in Wyoming.

[Nick Eicher]

For more than a decade, Foundations for the nations has served Native American families around the Wind River Reservation. But after a minister connected with the group criticized tribal religious ceremonies, the Northern Arapaho Business Council ordered the ministry out. World's Travis Kircher reports on the conflict now, raising questions about religious liberty, tribal authority and the future of church work there.

[Travis Kircher]

It sounded like a normal Sunday inside the foundation for nations church building this week, but the small congregation felt different because of what was happening outside. Roughly three dozen demonstrators stood at the entrance, holding signs and waving at church members as they drove in. Most were Native Americans who want the church and pastor Sarah Lucas off the west central Wyoming Wind River Indian Reservation.

[Alice Thomas]

And now it's too late for apologies. We just want her to go.

[Travis Kircher]

That's activist Alice Thomas, who says she has a problem with how Lucas has talked about Native American ceremonies.

[Alice Thomas]

Our traditions, our culture and our ceremonies were an abomination. She made several disrespectful comments to our pipe and to our ancestors and disrespected us as Northern Arapaho people.

[Travis Kircher]

Thomas is referring to a clip from a July 5th sermon. Here's part of what Lucas actually said

[Sarah Lucas]

and this nation gathered this week and they prayed and they prayed to pipes and prayed to their ancestors, believing that this is the way for their freedom to get free from addiction, for people to be healed. Jesus is the chain breaker. He is the only God that we should be praying to. A pipe can't not hear your prayers.

[Travis Kircher]

Those words lit a powder keg, prompting the Northern Arapaho Business Council, a group that governs organizations that operate on the land, to hold a meeting with Lucas and order foundations for nations to leave the reservation.

[Sarah Lucas]

So it looks uncompassionate. It looks not loving.

[Travis Kircher]

Lucas says someone pulled a one minute clip from a 90 minute sermon and took it out of context, but she stands by what she said. She also says the church has done nothing but love the community. Its programs include a food bank that feeds 2,000 people a month. But she says the church is about more than social services.

[Sarah Lucas]

We didn't come out here to give good programming. We came out here to see a nation come to know Jesus because we know that's the answer to the problem out here.

[Travis Kircher]

And the problems on the rez are obvious. A crime rate five to seven times the national average, according to a study by the New York Times, and an average life expectancy of less than 50 years. Lucas says there's been vandalism at the church. Someone stole the church's outdoor teepee. And then there's the threats on social media calling for her assassination, saying Charlie

[Sarah Lucas]

Kirk her they were posting pictures of our church burning down and them scalping me.

[Travis Kircher]

The demonstrators I talked to behaved peacefully and they said they knew nothing of any death threats. But they add the protests will continue,

[Alice Thomas]

but we don't have to make it easy for her to stay here. We can sit here every Sunday and make noise and just be a thorn in her side until she has enough and leaves. But that's the ultimate goal, is to get her to leave.

[Travis Kircher]

Lucas says that's not going to happen.

[Sarah Lucas]

But I'm not going to stop. My husband and I are not going to stop. We believe the Lord's called us here. Our staff has given up so much to be here.

[Travis Kircher]

She says. She she owns the reservation land and has employed lawyers with Liberty Counsel, a Christian legal nonprofit that focuses on religious liberty issues, to represent her. But she says it's not just about a legal battle. She believes God is using the controversy to bring about good we're about ready

[Sarah Lucas]

to see a great awakening. We're believing that. We're believing we're going to see revival out of this. The gospel is being more preached, whether it's good publicity or bad publicity still being preached. And so. So it's exciting. It's exciting.

[Travis Kircher]

Lucas says she has another meeting with the Northern Arapaho Business Council on Thursday. She adds that while demonstrations have so far been peaceful, she does have concerns about what may happen if more groups show up. Reporting for WORLD I'm Travis Kercher at the Wind River Indian Reservation in central Wyoming.

[Nick Eicher]

I'm gonna see a victory I'm gonna see a victory for the battle belongs to you Lord I'm gonna see a victory I'm gonna see a victory for the battle belongs to you Lord.

[Kent Covington]

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[Nick Eicher]

Up next, Expanding abortion pill access on California college campuses California was the first state to require public universities to provide chemical abortion drugs through student health centers. Now lawmakers want to extend that mandate to dozens of community colleges.

[Mary Reichert]

Pro lifers say the policy sends students a clear message. Abortion is part of campus health care while support for pregnant students remains more difficult to find. World's Lauren Canterbury reports.

[Lauren Canterbury]

Christian Allen was a senior at UCLA in the fall of 2022 when voters approved a proposal to make abortion a right under California's state constitution.

[Josh Weiss]

What followed after it passed was that in the UC ship insurance, which is the insurance for all the UC system, the public school system for universities in California, they began to include abortion in their insurance.

[Lauren Canterbury]

A few months later, a law took effect requiring all 32 public universities in the state to begin stocking abortion pills.

[Josh Weiss]

And they made it known that if you needed have an abortion covered, that was now covered.

[Lauren Canterbury]

California was the first state to pass a measure mandating university health systems provide chemical abortion drugs. Massachusetts, New York and Illinois have since followed suit. Now California lawmakers want to extend the requirement to include 92 community colleges that have a student health center. Last year, those schools enrolled about 2 million students. California Right to Life outreach director Mary Rose Short says the move could strengthen the pro abortion narrative.

[Mary Reichert]

The students think abortion is essential for student success and that you can't be a parent and a successful student if they know they're available on campus. It just, it plays into that idea of this is this is a critical part of being a student.

[Lauren Canterbury]

California has approximately 175 abortion facilities, the most of any state. Between that and mail order pills, students already have access to the dangerous drugs.

[Mary Reichert]

You would have to be at a pretty remote campus to not have next day, you know, same day or next day access to abortion.

[Lauren Canterbury]

While the measure has garnered support from pro abortion lawmakers, some community college officials have raised concerns even those that are not pro life. The Chief Executive Officers and Health Services association for community colleges both oppose the measure. They say campus health centers are not equipped to prescribe any medications or or screen for complications. According to one review published by the Ethics and Public Policy center, up to one in 10 women experience a serious adverse event after taking the abortion drug regimen that can include hemorrhage, incomplete abortion and infection. Karen Pennington is the Colorado director for Concerned Women for America.

[Mary Reichert]

These clinics are health care clinics, but they do not have ultrasound. They do not have a physician on staff.

[Lauren Canterbury]

Without an ultrasound, it is impossible to accurately determine how old an unborn baby is and if the woman is experiencing an ectopic pregnancy. Both cases would make taking abortion pills even more dangerous and ineffective.

[Mary Reichert]

We've removed any safeguards to protect women through these bills, and it sends one strong message to young women. Your only option if you get pregnant is abortion, because that's all we've got to offer.

[Lauren Canterbury]

Many pro lifers say universities required to provide abortion drugs should also be required to provide clear information about alternatives. Back in California, Christian Allen is trying to connect women with support systems. He's now a regional coordinator for Students for Life and uses the group's Standing with you platform to inform women about their options. The virtual directory allows a woman to see local pregnancy centers, maternity homes, adoption agencies, and other resources in her area.

[Josh Weiss]

It's in those small moments we can convince someone to not abort, to choose life and continue convincing them every time. Then we see an extinction of abortion and we see a culture of life.

[Lauren Canterbury]

As more states eye college campuses for abortion pill distribution, pro lifers say they will continue making sure young women know that they have other options. Reporting for world, I'm Lauren Canterbury.

[Nick Eicher]

You know, most thrift store victories are pretty modest. Maybe you find a vintage T shirt, a decent lamp, or a pair of jeans with the tag still on it. But teenage thrifter Quinn Brown was digging through bins at a good near Portland, Oregon, when he came across something potentially amazing. A yellow LA Lakers warm up jacket. Total cost to him, $3.07. Pretty good price. And an absurdly good price for an item tied to one of the greatest players in NBA history. The name on the back, the name of Wilt Chamberlain was pretty good evidence, but it was the tape measure that sealed the deal.

[Ryan Bomberger]

I looked at the measurements of the jacket.

[Nick Eicher]

Wilt Chamberlain being 7 foot 1, the

[Ryan Bomberger]

jacket measured 33 inches long, so would

[Nick Eicher]

have gone down almost to my knees. I looked at it and it matched up. You bet it did. The jacket was authenticated as a warmup Chamberlain Wore during the 72 NBA Finals when the Lakers won the championship. Sotheby's auctioned it off, the final price coming in just under 90 grand. That's a nearly 3 million percent return numbers chambers himself might have admired. It's the World and Everything in It.

[Mary Reichert]

Today is Tuesday, July 28th. Thank you for turning to World Radio to help start your day. Good morning, I'm Mary Reichardt.

[Nick Eicher]

And I'm Nick Eicher. Coming next on the World and Everything In it, when youn Origin Story Changes Ryan Bomberger grew up knowing he was adopted. But at age 13, he found out he had been conceived in rape.

[Mary Reichert]

His new memoir is titled should have Been Aborted. I spoke with Ryan recently about how the revelation of his origin shaped and ultimately strengthened his faith. Here's an excerpt of our conversation. Well, Ryan, your story begins with violence, as you say, but it is defined by love. So when did you stop thinking of yourself as a child conceived in rape and start thinking of yourself just as Ryan? Loved by God?

[Ryan Bomberger]

I mean, I always believed and understood that I was loved by God. I understood my identity was in Christ from a really young age because I had two parents who loved Jesus. It was only when I was a teenager, when I found out my actual origin story, that I started to doubt that.

[Mary Reichert]

And then what happened whenever you started to doubt that you were loved by God, how did that manifest itself in you?

[Ryan Bomberger]

Well, so finding out at 13. But you know, it's kind of a devastating time because your teenage years are already tumultuous anyway. So throw in their rewrite of your origin story and it becomes even harder. But I knew I was one of, by my, my parents and by at least most of my siblings. That's a whole other story. But I really challenged that and then and struggled with that because I just thought, wait a minute, how could someone conceive in such horrific circumstances be loved and, and have purpose? But so there were these two Competing things, having grown up, being told this and taught this and yet questioning it. And it went into my adult years, and the way it manifested itself, unfortunately, was in perfectionism, because I didn't want to do anything wrong, because I had a lot of self rejection that definitely did not come from my family. And unfortunately, it led to severe depression. And it was being set free from that that also solidified the truth that I am wanted, I am loved, I'm fearfully, wonderfully made like anyone else. Psalm 139. There's not an asterisk there that says, oh, wait, sorry, if you were humanly planned, then all the rest follows.

[Mary Reichert]

Right? Yeah. I want to get to the depression part of your life a little bit later, but I wanted to talk about the title of your work. It's kind of jarring. I mean, I'm a pro life person all the way, too, but when I heard the title should have been aborted, and it kind of unsettled me. So I'm curious as to why the decision to use words that will maybe unsettle people.

[Ryan Bomberger]

Perhaps it's in my nature because I. I don't tend to do things, I guess, in a conventional way, but they're actually inspired by people telling this to my face, saying this to my face in particular. I mean, a debate at Harvard where I had an LGBT activist who came up afterward and said some choice words that I could not repeat and then said, you should have been aborted. And so to have people say that it was so. I guess it's shocking to me that someone can be so cold and so callous and also have this weird sort of privileged mindset that, I mean, you had nothing to do with your conception, you have nothing to do with the fact that you exist or existed in the first place, but yet you want to throw shame on someone else because of circumstances that I couldn't control. So that was one of many times of being told that to my face, or at least a similar sentiment. So I just thought, you know what? I want to disprove the world's mindset, the world's lie, that somehow if you're unplanned, you're going to be unwanted, you're going to be unloved because it's so untrue.

[Mary Reichert]

Well, Ryan, am I right that your parents adopted 10 kids and had three biological kids as well?

[Ryan Bomberger]

Yes, they had three biological children, and I was the first of 10 adopted.

[Mary Reichert]

All right, so what did they do that made you feel wanted?

[Ryan Bomberger]

Oh, my word. I mean, I was united with My parents, when I was six weeks old, I was actually adopted officially on Juneteenth, which is why that day has a particular special meaning for me. But I was loved and I knew that I was loved. And when you had kids of different colors who didn't look alike and kids from different backgrounds coming into the family and you were treated the same way. Although I, I do think that I was the favorite in the family and remain the favorite. I don't know, I'm just saying that. But I knew, I knew to the core of my being that I was loved. Which is also why finding out that devastating news of, you know, having the wrong origin story in my mind, apparently I had created that, that I, I could not completely fall apart. I mean, my parents, as many children as that, 13, spent individual time with us. They, they brought us up in the Word, which is, is everything. To know that you're loved by, by the God of the universe, to know that you're loved by Jesus. And then they, they live that out. I had parents who, I honestly can say I never once thought, oh my word, they're, they're hypocrites. Not that they didn't make any mistakes. They, they certainly all parents make mistakes. I have four kids. I make mistakes all the time. But I knew that, I knew that. I knew that they loved Jesus and I knew that they loved each and every one of us. They endured really hard circumstances with a number of us, including myself, but we all knew, we all lived it. And I think just the outcome of our lives shows the evidence of being so deeply loved.

[Mary Reichert]

There's much more from Ryan Bomberger in our full interview. He tells the remarkable story of searching for his birthday mother reflecting on surviving depression and serious health scares, and explains why he's convinced that every person is wanted by someone. You'll hear the whole story Saturday on a special edition of the World and Everything in it. Good morning. This is the World and everything in it from listener supported World Radio. I'm Mary Reichard.

[Nick Eicher]

And I'm Nick Eicher. New York's assisted suicide law promises some conscience protections for medical workers who object. But religious health care providers say the law may still force them to help patients pursue lethal drugs or face punishment for refusing. Here is world commentator Bethel.

[Bethel McGrew]

Officially, New York's Medical Aid and Dying act includes a conscience clause for healthcare workers who refuse to administer euthanasia. But under previous state law, doctors and nurse practitioners are compelled to inform terminally ill patients about all legal end of life options. Once the new law takes effect on August 6, assisted suicide will become one of them. The parameters of the carve out are so narrow that religious practitioners will not only be forced to discuss the option, but also forced to guide patients through the qualification process and approve transferrals to a facility providing the lethal drugs for the 13 plaintiffs currently suing the state, including multiple congregations of nuns and a network of five Catholic Long island hospitals. And this is unacceptable. But the price of defying the law will be high.

[Kristen Flavin]

New York is using its big stick

[Lauren Canterbury]

and it's saying if you don't do

[Kristen Flavin]

do our work for us, you know

[Lauren Canterbury]

we're going to fine you.

[Kristen Flavin]

And if you persist, if you're willful and you say absolutely no way, then you know, we could even put you in jail.

[Bethel McGrew]

That was attorney Adele Keim speaking on behalf of the Becket Fund for Religious Liberty, who is currently representing the plaintiffs. In the short term, they are demanding a pause in the law with a longer term demand for appropriate accommodations. Congregations like the Dominican Sisters of Hawthorne, founded by the daughter of Nathaniel Hawthorne, have served New York's dying poor for generations. Sister Catherine Marie Couth is proud of their legacy.

[Alice Thomas]

We take in patients who have incurable cancer, who have a financial need. We do not charge anything for the care that we give. No money from patient families, insurance, government in any form. Our care is given out of our love for Christ, our consecration to Christ, and our care given to them is an expression of that love. And for God's creatures.

[Bethel McGrew]

This isn't the only state law the Sisters of Hawthorne are defying. In April, they filed a separate lawsuit over a 2023 law that would require their policies to comply with transgender ideology. Like the little Sisters of the poor under Obamacare, they stand on the front line of the religious liberty wars. Becket attorney Benjamin Fleshman is not a Catholic or even a member of a Christian denomination. In fact, he is a member of the Mormon Church. But he regards every American's First Amendment rights as sacred.

[Travis Kircher]

It really is critical that people understand the need to accommodate religious objectors. Again, I think that goes back to the very best of our traditions as an American society are providing a space for religious liberty to flourish and for religious communities, religious individuals, to live out their faith in a way that they feel called to do by God.

[Bethel McGrew]

Bishop John Barris has issued a strong statement on behalf of the Diocese of Rockville center saying Christ the divine physician calls us to accompany the sick and the dying with compassion, not abandon them to death. The court should protect that millennia old mission. In response, the state has offered no comment beyond a brief written statement from Governor Kathy Hochul assuring everyone that the Department of Health is working on regulations that will implement the law thoughtfully and responsibly. For world I'm Pafel McGregor.

[Mary Reichert]

Tomorrow, Hunter Baker is back for Washington Wednesday and how one organization is bringing back long lost varieties of apples. That and more tomorrow. I'm Mary Reichard.

[Nick Eicher]

And I'm Nick Eicher. The world and everything in it comes to you from World Radio. World's mission is biblically objective journalism that informs, educates and inspires. The Bible says, the earth is the Lord's and the fullness thereof the world and those who dwell therein for he has founded it upon the seas and established it upon the rivers. Who shall ascend the hill of the Lord, and who shall stand in his holy place? He who has clean hands and a pure heart, who does not lift up his soul to what is false, and does not swear deceitfully. He will receive blessing from the Lord, and righteousness from the God of his salvation. Such is the generation of those who seek him, who seek the face of the God of Jacob. Verses 1 through 6 of Psalm 24 go now in grace and peace.

[Ryan Bomberger]

Sam.