The Zach Lowe Show – March 19, 2026
Episode: Can the Pistons Survive Without Cade? Plus, Lakers and Luka Surge!
Guest: Kirk Goldsberry
Overview
This episode finds Zach Lowe and Kirk Goldsberry in the wake of major storylines across the NBA, highlighted by Cade Cunningham’s serious injury, soaring Lakers and Luka Doncic, chaos in All-NBA voting thanks to the 65-game rule, the Bucks-Giannis drama, the surprising Hawks, and broader thoughts on expansion and the competitive landscape. The conversations are rich with statistical insights, opinionated rants, and signature analytical banter.
Main Topics & Key Discussion Points
1. Cade Cunningham’s Injury & Detroit’s Playoff Fate
(02:00 – 08:00)
- Cade diagnosed with a collapsed lung, out for at least two weeks, a gut punch for an emerging MVP-caliber season.
- Pistons still have a 4-game cushion for the East’s top seed, and the tiebreaker over Boston, but without Cade, are highly vulnerable in the first round.
- “Injuries. Bad, sad, frowny face.” – Zach Lowe (04:25)
- Detroit’s offense plummets without Cade, with backups (Jenkins, LeVert, Harris) unable to salvage efficiency.
- The East’s bottom-half (5-10) is chaotic and competitive. Teams like Atlanta, Miami, Orlando, Philly, Charlotte – “all of those teams absolutely could beat Detroit without Cade Cunningham.” – Zach (05:00)
- Discussion pivots to general depression over injuries derailing great stories.
Notable Quotes:
- Kirk: “I don't know if there's one offensive player that's as important… he really was.” (05:35)
- Zach: “It’s a gut punch to a complete gamer. Plays both ends of the floor. Awesome player to watch.” (03:50)
2. All-NBA Chaos & The 65-Game Rule
(08:00 – 19:00)
- Zach and Kirk both bash the 65-game eligibility threshold, calling for more trust in voter discretion.
- The rule’s perverse effect: “It has not worked… Respect me as a voter that I can actually parse games played, impact, team record.” – Zach (08:00)
- Scenarios laid out for absent stars: SGA, Jokic, Wemby, Luka (all close to 65 games), as well as the newly eligible/unavailable stars for first team.
- The “games played watch” is now a daily obsessive storyline.
- Cade’s missing games likely bump him from first team; Jalen Brown, Donovan Mitchell, Kawhi Leonard, Anthony Edwards discussed as prime candidates.
- First team locks: Jokic, SGA, Wemby, Luka. Fifth spot now open due to Cade’s situation.
Notable Quotes:
- Kirk: “This weird, perverse like games played watch, that is way too important as we wind down the end of the season.” (11:11)
- Zach: “I'm ready for [the 65-game rule] to go away completely.” (10:37)
- Kirk: “It's gonna be a very fun race.” (22:18)
All-NBA Wildcards:
- Rapid-fire assessment on candidates like Bam Adebayo, Jalen Duren (“almost has to be on an All-NBA team”), Devin Booker (metronome), Evan Mobley, Chet Holmgren (defensive metrics).
- Surging: Duren, Booker, Jaylen Johnson; Languishing: Denny Avdija, Maxey (injury), Harden, Brunson (slump).
- Discussion of voting chaos, snubs, and balancing advanced stats with eye test, especially for Jalen Brown.
3. Eastern Conference State of Play
(25:10 – 28:00)
- Lowe boldly states: “Boston would scare me the most as an Eastern Conference playoff team… Boston has surpassed Boston. The most complete and coherent of these four teams atop the Eastern Conference.” (25:10)
- Praise for Tatum’s recent play, the Celtics’ stability and tradition, concern over Cavs’ injuries (Jared Allen especially), and why Cleveland evokes “Denver East” vibes (can’t get healthy together).
4. Giannis, Bucks Dysfunction & Playoff Shut Down
(30:00 – 40:00)
- Reports: The Bucks want Giannis to sit; he reportedly wants to play. Tension, leaks, and signs of a “dysfunc(t) relationship at the very top level.”
- Kirk argues it’s time for the Bucks and Giannis to part ways. Zach pushes back, citing Milwaukee’s “all-in” philosophy and defending the Dame Trade, but notes the team might be heading toward a reset anyway.
- Both agree: “Wake me up when this is over.” – Zach (34:00)
Notable Quotes:
- Zach: “If I were a player and I wanted to get traded… this feels like a really good manufactured way for that to happen.” (33:10)
- Kirk: “It's time for the divorce… let Giannis have potentially the second half of his prime in a different atmosphere.” (35:27)
5. Lakers and Luka Doncic: Are They a Western Power?
(40:11 – 56:36)
- Lakers are 10–1 in their last 11 with statement wins (Denver, Houston, Minnesota).
- “Luka looks like peak Dallas Luka again.” – Zach (42:05). Emphasis on his added “zip,” quick decision-making, offensive synergy with Ayton, improved defense.
- LeBron’s off-ball evolution: historic drop in pick-and-rolls as ball handler, comfort as “uber third option” and “smartest off-ball player in the league.”
- Lowe’s Law: Can the Lakers win with the 20th-ranked defense? Kirk skeptical: “This defense is not going to get them to the NBA Finals.” (46:35)
- But, this version—LeBron, Luka, Reaves—has a puncher’s chance against everyone except perhaps OKC and Spurs.
- Comparison to historical Mavericks teams illustrates Luka’s devastating playoff upside.
Notable Quotes:
- Kirk: “If he's playing like this, they got a chance against anybody.” (46:35)
- Zach: “Luka is an unimpeachable offensive force… when he’s making his step back threes, there’s like nothing you can do.” (51:14)
- Zach: “LeBron has clearly come back and accepted his version of old man Jason Kidd on the Mavericks.” (53:05)
6. Western Conference Rundown: Thunder, Spurs, Nuggets, Rockets
(57:07 – 63:06)
- Nuggets: Another “goofy loss” to Memphis, worries about putting it together down the stretch.
- Thunder: Slow-playing Jalen Williams’ return, but the “kick in the nuts” to Philly continues with Shay Alexander-McCain’s emergence; OKC and Spurs (both 13–1/13–2 since ASB) are the hottest teams.
- Rockets: Offense “looks completely lost,” missing VanVleet and Adams, advocating for more Reed Sheppard and a faster, shooter-heavy lineup. “Nobody knows what to do” in half court sets.
- Potential Mike D’Antoni hiring as offensive assistant floated for Houston.
7. The Atlanta Hawks: 11 Game Win Streak & Identity Minus Trae Young
(63:35 – 78:24)
- Lowe downplays the streak’s strength of schedule but credits the “elusive, random, blur” offense, enabled by lineups with CJ McCollum (recently inserted), Jalen Johnson, Nikhil Alexander-Walker, Onyeka Okongwu (now a stretch five) and Dyson Daniels (point-forward).
- “Their principle is randomness.” (67:51)
- Defense has been #1 and offense #2 over the streak; notable stats: starting five is +160 in 236 minutes, second best plus-minus in NBA lineups.
- CJ McCollum’s leadership and shot creation lauded as missing piece; Nikhil Alexander Walker (recent 41-point game), Jalen Johnson, Okongwu—all most improved candidate tier.
- Praise for Hawks front office, especially GM Onsi Sala, and for finding a post-Trae Young identity.
- Playoff implications: Hawks are two games out of #5 in East, a possible first-round scare especially if Detroit is weakened.
Notable Quotes:
- Kirk: “They're long, they're big, they're athletic and they're active. Dyson Daniels is a nightmare.” (69:02)
- Zach: “Their principle is randomness… They make chicken salad out of spacing that should be chicken something else.” (68:00)
- Kirk: “I'm very bullish on the Hawks’ future in a way that I wasn't a year ago.” (71:00)
8. Most Improved Player Deep Dive
(74:14 – 77:09)
- Epic laundry list: Jalen Johnson, Nikhil Alexander-Walker, Okongwu, Jalen Brown, Jalen Duren, Danis Jenkins, Amen Thompson, Jaime Jaquez Jr., Anthony Black, Tyrese Maxey, Stefan Castle (Zach’s favorite rookie), and more.
- Discussion on eligibility (rookies? second-year players?) and bias toward recent breakouts.
- Kirk’s picks: Duren, Johnson, Alexander-Walker (“didn’t think he was a 40-point scorer”).
9. Playoff Wish List: Most Fun Eastern Teams
(78:47 – 80:32)
- Zach’s seeds for fun first-round matchups: Charlotte locks (energized by Miller and Khan), Miami for #HeatCulture and Bam, Orlando for potential, and Toronto (“reward” for overachieving record).
- Kirk roots for Atlanta’s continued chaos: “They play hard af as the kids say… I love the CJ McCollum Renaissance.” (80:37)
- Charlotte profiled as a legitimate threat to win a first-round series due to top net rating since Jan 1 and best three-point efficiency.
10. NBA Expansion & Tanking
(82:04 – 89:09)
- Goldsberry pitches NBA abolishing conferences, a 62-game season, single-elimination NBA Cup, and “straight-seeded” playoffs with 32 teams.
- Zach: Not worried about “talent dilution,” provided tanking is curbed and talent distribution (top vs. bottom) is thoughtfully managed.
- Seattle’s return as the Supersonics is “basketball paradise.” (86:04)
- Fun speculating Vegas team names (Aces, Rat Pack, Royals?), agreeing the new teams should have distinct, “Vegas-y” brands.
Memorable Quotes, Stats & Anecdotes
- Zach (on Detroit): “Offense has fallen off a cliff all season without Cade.” (07:50)
- Kirk (on 65-game rule): “Basketball is really hard… it’s a survival test… 82 games at this level is an insane ask for these athletes.” (12:00)
- Zach (on recent Lakers): “The word I’ve used over and over again is zip. He’s [Luka] just playing with more pace and verve.” (41:26)
- Kirk (on the Hawks): “I'm very bullish on the Hawks future… taking the Trae Young issue and building a new identity on the fly.” (71:05)
Timestamps for Key Segments
- 02:00 – Cade Injury & Pistons fallout
- 08:00 – All-NBA bracketology & 65-game rule debate
- 25:10 – Celtics now the Eastern favorites; Cavs discussion
- 30:00 – Giannis/Bucks standoff & dysfunction
- 40:11 – Lakers/Luka surge, playoff positioning
- 57:07 – West: Thunder, Spurs, Nuggets, Rockets breakdown
- 63:35 – Hawks 11-game win streak deep dive
- 74:14 – Most Improved Player race & candidates
- 78:47 – Playoff “most fun” teams wish list
- 82:04 – Expansion/Realignment ideas & tanking
- 86:04 – Seattle nostalgia & Vegas speculation
Tone & Vibe
- Energetic and analytical, with signature Zach Lowe digressions and an easy, candid rapport between Zach and Kirk.
- Opinionated: Rants on awards eligibility, the Bucks, and bad league rules.
- Nerdy-fun: Deep dives into advanced stats, coaching trends, and the intricacies that only obsessive NBA fans care about.
For listeners:
This episode offers a comprehensive, up-to-the-minute view of the NBA’s drama, with passionate and informed takes on star injuries, awards voting, playoff races, and the “state of the league.” Expect a blend of insider perspective and relatable, nerd-out moments—an essential catch-up for dedicated fans.
