Is the Battle for Green Back On? | TdF 2026 Stage 8 | THEMOVE

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Episode: Is the Battle for Green Back On? | TdF 2026 Stage 8

Host: Lance Armstrong
Guests: George Hincapie, Bradley Wiggins, Spencer Martin
Date: July 11, 2026

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Episode Overview

This episode dives deep into the pivotal moments of Stage 8 of the 2026 Tour de France, focusing intently on the ongoing battle for the green jersey. Lance Armstrong and his team provide incisive analysis of the key sprint finish, dissect the performances of top contenders, and debate the evolving tactics for stage hunting and jersey competitions. The discussion ranges from race strategy to the changing culture of professional cycling—both on and off the bike—with big personalities and candid insights.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Stage 8 Analysis: Sprint Dynamics & Tactics (04:11–07:30)

• Tim Merlier's Sprint Dominance:
  The panel emphasizes Merlier’s capability, with Lance noting, “Smoked him, didn’t he? Smoked him?” (04:11).
  George adds, “I mean he’s in perfect position again and Merlier wasn’t even in that group and he just blew by everybody” (04:32).
  • The sprint dynamic this year favors coming from behind—the hosts comment on how trains burned themselves before the final, allowing Merlier to surge late (04:47).
• Phillipson’s Struggles:
  Despite good positioning, Jasper Phillipson “could only manage fifth” (04:12), leading to frustration within the team and visible outbursts post-stage (06:47).
• Van der Poel’s Tactics:
  Noted for attempting to join the break, hinting at team uncertainty about Phillipson’s form (05:50–06:00).

2. The Battle for the Green Jersey (07:30–08:01, 20:49–24:03)

• Current Standings:
  • Mads Pedersen: 228 points
  • Tim Merlier: 213 points
  • Biniam Girmay: 203 points
• Insights on Contenders:
  Spencer: “If I was going to pick one of these guys to be concerned about, it's Biniam Grimaj.” (00:00 / 22:09) Lance: “He’s fast. I mean, you saw him today. He has the legs.” (00:14 / 22:09)
  • Merlier lacks the versatility for hard intermediate sprints, while Girmay’s consistency and experience make him a legitimate threat, especially if stages get harder in the third week (22:30).
  • Breakaways poaching points could benefit Pedersen, but the panel discusses how both Pedersen and Girmay are capable of joining breakaways to contend for more points (22:41–23:08).

3. Life After Pro Cycling – Mental Health, Reinvention, & Culture Shift (01:17–03:40, 17:02–19:05)

• Bradley Wiggins’ Post-Career Experience:
  Bradley describes life after top-level sport as challenging: “I was always trying to find something rather than just working on myself…there’s something to distract, you know.” (01:36)
  • Lance acknowledges the mental toughness of pro riding, how tough backgrounds shape the athletes, and the difficulties transitioning out of the sport (02:22).
• Education in Pro Cycling:
  Lance: “I knew two guys…in however many years that was, I knew two guys that went to college.” (02:44) Bradley and George reflect on how more riders pursue education now, especially with online options (03:33), hinting at a gradual cultural shift in the peloton.

4. Breakaways, Peloton Dynamics & Team Roles (09:06–13:24)

• Breakaway Strategy:
  Lance explains the math: “It’s the math equation for the bunch” (09:47) – the peloton always leaves just enough time gap to ensure a catch before the line, making breakaways rarely successful except for the exceptionally cunning.
  • Bradley recounts his epic but ultimately doomed 2007 solo break (10:57–11:33), noting the psychological rewards of being “the star of the table at the dinner that night” (12:00), even without a win.
• Team Dynamics:
  Discussion of how certain “gangsters” know how to play speed games with the peloton to extend breakaway chances (12:17–13:24).

5. Inside the Teams: Language, Modernization, & Cultural Change (16:45–19:05)

• Decathlon’s “No French” Policy:
  Spencer shares that Decathlon, a French team, now speaks English only, trying to break from traditional French cycling norms: “They don’t want you to speak French, they don’t want you to know French…there’s like a no French rule on the team.” (17:02)
• The hosts debate whether this shift is about making the team more modern and competitive, moving towards the F1 model, where English is essential (18:14–19:05).

6. Previewing Stage 9: Profile & Predictions (25:01–28:28)

• Stage Characteristics:
  Stage 9 described as hot, with rough pavement and significant climbing (25:57–26:24).
  • “Straight uphill from the start. 7k uphill. That’s no joke…tough day to control, a very tough breakaway to make.” (25:25)
• Contenders & Tactics:
  Stage suits strong breakaway riders: “It’s only gonna be the strong guys. No panicking breakaway tomorrow.” (25:46)
  • Quinn Simmons, Matt’s Pedersen, and Carapaz mentioned as possible favorites, with suspense about how teams will play it (27:00–28:14).

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Memorable Quotes & Moments

The Green Jersey Debate

• Spencer (00:00 / 22:09): “If I was going to pick one of these guys to be concerned about, it's Biniam Grimaj.”
• Lance (00:14 / 22:09): “He’s fast. I mean, you saw him today. He has the legs.”
• Lance (22:28): “He doesn’t look like one of these sprinters. He looks almost more like a climb[er].”

Peloton Dynamics

• Lance (09:47): “It’s the math equation for the bunch… the peloton always knowing that they’re leaving just enough that they can close it in the final 25k.”
• Bradley (10:57): “Solo breakaway… I had 17 and a half minutes at one stage… I thought, this could be on here… caught with 5k to go.”

Cultural Change in Pro Teams

• Spencer (17:02): “[Decathlon] don’t want you to speak French, they don’t want you to know French… there’s like a no French rule on the team.”
• Bradley (17:53): “When I was leading the Tour in 2012… It endeared me to the French public a little bit more by speaking their language. But it just shows you the shift now.”

Pro Cycling Life Real Talk

• Lance (02:44): “This is a sport of hard men that come from hard backgrounds. And so what do you expect, right? Uneducated kids come from tough backgrounds, spend… years in the sport and then leave. It’s hard.”

The “Move of the Day”

• Bradley (08:07): “I’m going to go Merlier again… he’s proved he’s the fastest man in this race for the moment.”
• George (08:18): “I’m going to go with Jasper Stuyven… he’s my move today.”

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Audience Q&A Highlights

Nutrition & Kitchen Trucks (31:01–36:09)

• Do teams travel with their own chefs?
  • Yes, almost all WorldTour teams (and many lower-tier teams) now travel with kitchen trucks and chefs for total control of nutrition and food safety.
  • Bradley (32:32): “Every team has at least some sort of van, transit van, which is a kitchen van.”
  • George shares a short video of a kitchen truck, illustrating how modern these setups have become.

Tour Jerseys: Prestige Ranking (37:18–41:19)

• Question: How would you rank these: winning a Tour stage, yellow jersey for a day, polka dot jersey, or Giro GC win?
  • Lance: “The Giro is bigger than winning a stage. [Then] France stage second, a day in yellow third, and Polka Dot fourth.” (37:47)
  • Bradley disagrees: “I would say a day in yellow ahead of a stage.”
  • Both agree the polka dot jersey is undervalued unless the wearer is truly the best climber.

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Additional Highlights

• Public Service Announcement:
  Lance’s PSA for young racers: Don’t wave at the TV moto for the cameras, “Kids, when that TV moto comes up, ignore them. It looks corny. I cannot take it.” (23:08)
• Personal Stories & Fun Moments:
  • Lance’s story about listening to Incubus during the 2003 Tour de France—later discovering the band’s singer and his trainer were watching THEMOVE podcast at the gym (29:54).
• Stage 9 predictions:
  Multiple picks (Quinn Simmons, Mads Pedersen, Carapaz) and consensus: it will be “a very tough breakaway to make” (25:46).
• Cultural shout-outs:
  England vs. Norway football, the value of “no devices” at summer camp for kids, and reflections on food quality at gas stations in Italy.

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Important Timestamps

• 00:00 – Opening remarks, the sprinter debate (Girmay vs. Merlier)
• 04:11 – Merlier’s sprint analysis & Phillipson’s struggles
• 07:30 – Green jersey points and analysis
• 09:06 – Breakaway strategies and explaining peloton control
• 10:57 – Bradley Wiggins recounts his 2007 solo break
• 16:45 – Decathlon’s language policy: breaking from French tradition
• 22:09 – Girmay’s threat for green discussed in depth
• 25:01 – Stage 9 preview & predictions
• 31:01 – Audience Q: Team chefs, kitchen vans, and nutrition evolution
• 37:18 – Audience Q: Ranking Tour jerseys and race achievements

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Tone & Language

Lively, candid, and sometimes irreverent, with plenty of inside jokes, good-natured ribbing, and a balance of technical/pro-level commentary and accessibility for fans. The conversation flows easily between deep tactical insight, culture, and personal stories.

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Summary Takeaways

• The green jersey fight is wide open—Pedersen, Merlier, and especially Biniam Girmay all have credible shots, with different strengths and paths to points.
• Team tactics and race evolution—Stage profiles, weather, and fatigue are combining for a wide-open, unpredictable race, with breakaways increasingly hard but still strategically vital.
• Cycling culture is modernizing—Decathlon’s English-only policy and the normalization of kitchen trucks and nutrition science point to a younger, more international and professional peloton.
• Classic THEMOVE humor and anecdotes—The hosts blend real racing insight with their trademark banter and nostalgia, making listeners feel part of their inner circle.

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Next episode: Full debrief of Stage 9, which promises to be an attritional, hot, and tactically pivotal day for both stage hunters and jersey hopefuls.

Transcript

[A]

I would say if I was going to pick one of these guys to be concerned about, it's Binyam Grimaj.

[B]

I agree.

[A]

Because I think Merlier can't contest the intermediate sprints on super hard days as well as Binyomin can. And he's so consistent. He's won this before, so we know he can do it.

[B]

He's fast. I mean, you saw him today. He's. He has the legs.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

Like if you, if you just isolated him and. And Philipson. Not even close. All right, everybody, welcome back to the Move podcast.

[C]

What?

[B]

We're staying on time today. I guess our friends at Peacock is different things, so we're, we're a little scrambling.

[C]

That's okay.

[A]

They got us running over there.

[B]

It gets George out on the bike sooner, gets Bradley in the gym sooner.

[C]

You get to watch England versus Norway, 1pm our time.

[D]

1pm then. Conor McGregor tonight. Yep.

[B]

Yeah, so I'll have. I watched the weigh in last night.

[D]

He looks good to me.

[B]

I would not. I, I don't want to fight any of these guys, but if I had to pick one that I wanted to fight, if I had to choose, I would fight Conor McGregor before I fought Max Holloway.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

So Bradley, what happened? Boxing foray.

[D]

I got better.

[C]

You got better?

[D]

Yeah, yeah.

[B]

And smarter.

[D]

Yeah, yeah.

[C]

But you were considering doing it?

[D]

Yeah, I got offered like a five fight deal with something called Misfits in the uk which is like a celebrity boxing series.

[C]

And no way did you train for.

[D]

I mean, I started training, but I

[B]

mean, come on, you've done it all. You've done it all growing.

[D]

Yeah, I was always trying to find something rather than just working on myself, you know, there's something to distract, you know.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Well, you know what though, not to get too sappy here, but I'm proud of you, dog.

[D]

Thank you.

[B]

You got it. You got it dialed. My man is dialed. I love stories like this. So, yeah, no boxing, no rowing. Did set the hour record. Did win the Tour de France has, I don't know, 28 million gold medals.

[C]

But we watched these guys starting throughout. We watched these guys in like this glamorous sport of the Tour de France. But like people that haven't done done and don't realize how hard it is on you mentally and what happens to you after you stop doing it. I mean, it's a very challenging time for.

[B]

Yeah, look, these are athletes that. And I, I actually do get a lot of questions just about the group and what kind of young men these are, you know, and when I tell People I say, listen, I raced a long time and I'm, I didn't, I wasn't on the team with everybody in the peloton. I knew two guys and however many years that was, I knew two guys that went to college.

[A]

Whoa.

[B]

Dylan, Casey, Chetchy, Rubiera, nobody else. I mean, Dylan came on the team and he was like, he's like, yeah, I graduated from UC Santa Barbara. I was like, what? What a weirdo. Like that is weird. Chetcher was taking, was doing homework at night, getting his degree. So it's, this is a, this is a sport of hard men that come from hard background. And so what do you expect, right? Uneducated kids come from tough backgrounds, spend, whether it's 5, 10, 15 years in the sport and then leave. It's hard.

[C]

It's hard.

[B]

It's hard, man.

[A]

I mean, how many guys now went to call in this race? Can you think of? So not many except Coos and maybe one other guy. Not many.

[C]

Right. I'd say there's a few more now.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

I think especially nowadays you can do online school a lot easier than back in our day. So I think, I think that number is higher now.

[B]

Not too late for us.

[C]

Yep.

[B]

We are talking about stage eight, Alan. What, what, what, what do we do?

[C]

Stage eight.

[B]

From Perigueux to be. From Perigueux to Berak. It just never, it never gets old, you know. Never gets old here in Atlanta. Tim Marliere just two in a row by far. The fact, I mean, smoked him, didn't he? Smoked him?

[D]

Yeah, yeah.

[B]

I think what stands out to me is the last two days at least is how dominant he has been and how really disappointing Philipson has been. And this isn't just looking at the results and saying, gosh, he could only manage fifth. When they show that helicopter shot and guys go, he doesn't have the legs.

[A]

No, no, not at all. I mean he's in perfect position again and Merlier wasn't even that group and he just blew by everybody.

[D]

Yeah. And there seems to be an advantage more so this year for some reason for coming from behind.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

Doesn't there, you know, and Tim's done that two days running now.

[A]

Well, today was very fast because they, they had to catch the break and then all the trains fell apart because they burned themselves. And so maybe that helps coming from behind.

[C]

I don't know.

[A]

Do you guys know who, when Merlier won his first Tour to France stage win, do you know who his lead out rider was?

[B]

We do not.

[A]

Jasper Phillipson.

[D]

Wow.

[A]

Yeah, they're on the same team.

[B]

I thought Vanderpool, he looked Bradley. What do you think? I mean, you. You had a good enough.

[D]

Better today.

[B]

I thought he looked better.

[D]

He looked a lot better today. I think there's. There's almost a slight hesitation there. Not from Van der Poel. Just, you know, he's running out of legs at some point and, And Merlier is reluctant to jump, probably because he hasn't got the legs. And that's just taking it. That's allowing everyone from behind to. To have that run up. And by time, they come side by side with Merlier. Sorry, Philipson, he. He just doesn't have that acceleration at that point.

[C]

Let's not forget it's Matthew van der Poel. I mean, yeah, we're used to seeing him coming out swinging at the Tour de France, winning stages, taking yellow jerseys, but I, I would not be shocked, surprised if he. And then after 10 days in, we get to see the Matthew Vanpoel back.

[A]

What'd you notice today? He was trying to get in the breakaway.

[C]

Yeah. And he made that split in the fourth category. Climb there.

[A]

But it also tells you Alpecon not so confident in the sprint. If they're sitting in, lead out, rider

[C]

up the ring, I think they got to have somebody there. So it's. I mean, it's a good position to be in. If that thing did go away, Vanderpoel's there. He's not going to work because Philipson's behind. Like, probably not a big deal for him to just try to be there. So I don't think it was necessarily not a confidence in Phillipson. It was just having somebody in that breakaway or that split frustration. And we're not fighting, by the way.

[B]

Frustration stand each other offset.

[A]

We don't even look at each other.

[B]

No, it's like. Like we're in Van Halen. All separate Tour buses. Frustration building for Philipson and the team. There was some article or some. Some news yesterday about throwing the helmet and just really sort of obvious frustration, which I, I don't mind.

[A]

Yeah, I remember I was at a stage in 2024 and he, like, got relegated. I was standing right next to the bus and you could hear him, like, throwing stuff around in there.

[B]

I mean, he said the bus, but

[A]

that's just how he.

[C]

That's different. I mean, you get relegated. Perhaps he didn't think he did anything wrong. Like, he's frustrated now that he just doesn't have the power. Like, he's got the perfect position to win that race. Today and yesterday and just runs out of speed.

[B]

You shouldn't watch that helicopter angle.

[C]

No.

[D]

Because it's.

[B]

There's two different. That's another gear, by the way. It's not obviously Tim Merrilier learning the stages, the last two at least. But you see Binyan Girmai. You see, I mean, and we're going to talk about Binyan Girmai. We talk about the green jersey because this now all of a sudden, a few days ago we thought, wow, Matt Spaderson's looking pretty good. It's now tight.

[C]

Yeah, very tight.

[B]

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[D]

I'm going to go merlier again. You know, back to backstage wins. It's been a hugely successful race for them already and he's proved he's the fastest man in this race for the moment.

[C]

G I'm going to go with Jasper Stuyven. I mean that guy is always there when you need him. Today, people that don't understand how the sprinting dynamics work, they, they don't realize how important it is to win that battle. To 1k to go on that right hand turn. Jasper Steven seems to do that with ease, which what happens there. It gives his, his sprinter Tim Millier a lot of confidence that he has some in there with him. Even though he came from behind. Like it's super important to have a guy like that by your side that you know you can always count on whether it's a sprint finish of the Tour de France or a Milan San Remo or a big classic. That dude is. He's my move today.

[A]

I like that.

[B]

Professor.

[A]

I'm gonna go Liam slot.

[B]

I am too. Yeah, I'm with you.

[A]

That, that's, that's not easy. No breakaway kilometer zero. Almost stayed away. Caught right before the final kilometer.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's, you know, I get this question a lot that. But by the way, that is my

[A]

move of the day.

[B]

I mean the guy went basically, at least the group did so he was out there for 175km, we said, at the top of the show. The third hottest stage in the last 20 years. It's not easy, by the way. It's been hot every single day. But I often get questions from people. They don't really follow cycling, but they watch the Tour and they watch these early breakaways, and it kind of, I don't know, 99.9% of the time it happens that they get caught, but they get caught right at the end. And so folks are like, how is it that they get caught right at the end every time?

[A]

Right.

[B]

And it's true, but it's, it's not just, it's not just because they got tired or whatever. It's there. It's the math equation for the, for the bunch. Right, Bradley?

[D]

I mean, when it's one rider or two riders, or even three or four against a moving peloton, it's always the peloton that decides the time gap given to the, to the breakaway. So when you're in the break, you know, you don't go. It's not the case of you just riding flat out and hoping to gain as much time as possible. The peloton will decide. So you'll suddenly get two minutes, then you might get three min. So you will adjust your speed based on the peloton. The peloton will always adjust its speed. If it's gone to four and a half minutes, the director might say, we need that down at three and a half, no more. So they'll increase the speed, get it to three and a half minutes, and then back off. So it's always the peloton always knowing that they're leaving just enough that they can close it in that final 25k.

[C]

And so it's always easier to be the hunter than the hunted.

[D]

Yes.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

And, and I think back in the day, it was just kind of rough math, what, you know, they thought, well, we can fairly easily or without any worry, close 10 seconds a kilometer. Yeah, right. So if it's 10k to go, you know, they can have, have quite a bit of time and they know that they can get that bunch rolling. Now.

[D]

I had a similar stage in 2007. 200 plus kilometers. Solo breakaway. July 13th. The death of Tommy Simpson. The anniversary. And I went out there, I was still the seventh longest solo break in the history of the Tour de France, which is me. And it was. I had 17 and a half minutes at one stage. And I remember thinking, with 100k to go in 17 and a half minutes. 10 years before that, in 97, I was watching the Tour and Cedric Vassar got 17 and a half minutes and won the stage and took the yellow jersey. And I thought, this could be on here. And I got caught with 5k to go into a roaring headwind the last 25k.

[C]

Were you staring at your watch the whole day?

[A]

No.

[D]

No. I mean, you just. It's amazing how quickly 200k goes. Oh, yeah, because you're on live TV all day and because you're in a French team as well. The director was coming and all this, and they're. It. The sponsors are on the phone and all this. And it's the only race where it's a. You know, you've won something by being in the break.

[C]

We need more of those Bradley Wiggins imitations. They're the best. That was really coming.

[D]

Yeah. And then, of course, you're the star of the table at the dinner that night, and, you know, you haven't won anything other than the. Which is you won your body weight in cheese. But, yeah, good old days. Anyway.

[B]

You woke up on the right side of the bed.

[C]

Yes. I love this.

[B]

Now, there are some gangsters that can get in these breaks. I don't know if they're. If there are any in this. This year's Tour, but there are gangsters that know how to get in these breakaways, and they can play that game with the peloton of 150 or 200 guys. They can say, look, we know that they're sort of. And they can. As the peloton eases up and lets them seemingly get away, they also two ease up.

[A]

Right. So they.

[B]

They know and save it for the last that has happened. But you got to be really clever to be one of those gangsters in the. In the breakaway. And at the end of it, you still have to go almost as fast as 150 guys. And guys that are basically team time, multiple teams, team time, trialing behind you. It's very difficult.

[A]

Like at the Giro on stage 15 this year, they let a break go. You don't see them get. They don't get much time anymore because these solo breaks can go so fast now. And this guy from Unox, he was in a small group for the last two hours of the race. And this is a city circuit, so it's not like straight road average 33 miles an hour, and then held off the peloton at one. So it's hard to pull if someone's going 33 miles an hour. It's Hard to go faster than that to pull them back in.

[C]

And he had that stage earmarked for a long time. Yeah, that he could win it. It's pretty amazing.

[B]

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Yep.

[D]

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[D]

Yeah.

[B]

And you had an interesting theory. I think we all kind of, we all kind of bought into it.

[C]

Yeah. Yeah, I like that theory.

[A]

Well, that stage in the Pyrenees, we had one stage and it was apparently it was designed to be a dud. That was not supposed to happen. They thought that it would like go to the final climb and there'd be a little sprint Picachar ruined that. But I was thinking last night.

[D]

Huh?

[A]

All the exciting stages in this race or like, what are we all thinking about today? We're thinking about England, Norway. Like the detour is probably secondary in our mind. And I think they're placing all like the can't miss stages after the World cup finishes so they don't get stepped on by the World Cup.

[C]

I mean, it makes a lot of sense.

[D]

Interesting. Yeah. Because even Bastille days on the rest day this year. Yeah.

[A]

Wait, is it.

[C]

No, no, no, no, no, no. I think I forget I said that

[A]

it's the day after the rest.

[C]

The other thing that we observed today, Spencer, and you thought you had a theory on this as well, was decathlon speaks to their riders in English.

[A]

Yes.

[C]

Not in French. Which is new French powerhouse team. Why do you think that is?

[A]

Well, I talked to a writer that was joining the team. Well, I talked to a writer that joined that team three or four years ago.

[B]

Who was that writer?

[A]

I don't know if I don't say.

[C]

You can't say. But it'd be interesting to hear what you think because you raised for a

[A]

friend, they had to go to like a full IM niece in the off season to become fluent in French.

[C]

I know the rider that you talk about. Yeah.

[A]

And then I talked to another writer this last offseason who was joining the team and he said, no, they, they don't want us to learn French. Not only do they not want you to speak French, they don't want you to know French. And there's like a no French rule on the team.

[B]

Talk about you behind your back.

[A]

I, I think it's because of what Bradley was just talking about, where he was the toast of the team. He's in the breakaway. He lost, but he's this hero. I think they're trying to break free from the. They. They've diagnosed that like the French cycling culture is not prioritizing the right things and they're trying to like pull the team into the modern era. Yeah.

[C]

That is interesting because you were on coffees for Several years.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

Francis de jour. And it was. It was a. It was a life skill to learn French that I have that, you know. Yeah. It's. And when I was leading the Tour in 2012, I was able to give interviews on French TV after the stage was Jalabel and all that speaking French. And it endeared me to the French public a little bit more by speaking their language. But it just shows you the shift now.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

The pellet.

[A]

All the advances.

[C]

Quite fun watching land speak French to be like just sweet. T berlay at top. Ojo dway a demont spare trey fort.

[B]

Tell you what, why don't you get a little closer to the mic? I always thought, what the Is going on?

[D]

Hold on.

[A]

Great.

[B]

When I was a kid. Hang on a second. Hang on a second. By the way, I got no points for doing that.

[C]

I got no.

[B]

All this endearment crap you just talked about.

[C]

They.

[B]

They hated me more. I should have just been like, maybe cycling's moving in this direction of formula one. Like, if you listen. You know, English is. If you don't speak English, you cannot play. The formula one game now. Could be moving that way when the

[A]

team that struggled to kind of keep up with the modern era in formula one. Ferrari. Because they were, like, holding on to the Italian tradition.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

But all the advances are happening in the English language world in esports.

[B]

All right, we're going to cut through a break for our friends over at Peacock. We're also going to add a little one there at the beginning. We will be back in 3 minutes and 32 seconds. Talk about the green jersey. And I have some other fun things.

[C]

Two minutes and thirty seconds.

[A]

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[C]

Oh, three.

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[B]

Let's talk about the green jersey. This, this, this is unfolding and it it few days ago we thought wow, Matt Paterson has really set himself up. He's not helped by these breaks where that are poaching points out. He may not actually want to contest those points because anyways 228 points. He has Tim earlier sneaking up so 228 for Matt's Patterson. 213. And you said this I believe yesterday.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Spencer. That if he can get a couple stage wins he is right back in at 213. And then the sneaky little devil, the AirTran.

[C]

Yep.

[B]

And we figured out where AirTray is.

[C]

Mr. Consistency.

[B]

Horn of Africa 203 points. This is the race right? I mean that's, this is gonna.

[A]

Yeah, I did so I did talk to yo. I phoned Johan up to talk about this and I said Johan, I'm concerned because I have money on Mads Pedersen. What are we going to do? He said he thinks it's not going to be an issue because we have breakaway stages coming up that Pederson's going to be in the move and these guys won't be able to contest the points on those days. I would say if I was going to pick one of these guys to be concern about, it's Ben. I agree because I think Merlier can't contest the intermediate sprints on super hard days as well as Benium can. And he's so consistent. He's won this before so we know he can do it.

[B]

He's fast. I mean you saw him today. He's. He has the legs.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

Like if you, if you just isolated him and, and Philipson not even close.

[A]

He's.

[B]

He doesn't. And he doesn't look like one of these sprinters. I mean he looks almost more like a climb. I mean it's kind of the crazy

[A]

thing when you go to these races.

[B]

New team look tiny.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. And what if Merlier, you know, he's not historically a great third week sprinter. If he starts to fade a little Bit. Benny and Grimaid could be winning these stages later in the race.

[C]

I agree. He's got the foundation, not only to win later on in the Tour de France, but also to make these breakaways.

[B]

Like I was going to say, why wouldn't Germai go on the brakes? If Peterson can make these brakes, I can make the brakes.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

I mean, Pedersen is. Pedersen's more versatile.

[C]

I would agree with that.

[A]

But we'll see. We'll see, though. I mean, you, like, remember, like, Tour Hush off was. He had to get in breakaways on, like, some of the hardest mountain stages, and he made it happen.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

These sprinters can make stuff happen when they need to.

[B]

It is that time of this particular show. I've done it in the past, right. For all. Anybody, any young bike racers out there that are watching the race, that in their minds are saying, one day, I want to. I want to be in the Tour de France. That's my dream. That's my goal. I'm going to devote my life to that. It's important that every now and again we run public service announcements. There's been others in the past. They're not always popular, but my public service announcement, otherwise known as a PSA for today, is when the peloton is just cruising along and the TV moto comes up beside you and just sitting there on you. We don't need to make any shows. We don't need to make any silly waves. Ignore them. I think it looks horrible. And Remco is in, and I think they figured him out. They're like, oh, he's always going to wave to us. They always go to him, and it's always this cheeky wave. Kids, when that TV moto comes up, ignore him. It looks corny. I cannot take it.

[D]

I. Oh, I.

[B]

In fact, George was with me.

[C]

I think he just woke up on the wrong side of the bed today. He came down in the kitchen this morning.

[B]

I just think it's cheesy.

[C]

He's like, why isn't there enough coffee? Like, I usually have two cups ready. There's only one cup ready. He was just in a bad mood.

[D]

Would you have done anything?

[B]

He would have been like, get out of here.

[C]

We need the rest day.

[B]

No, I would never. What are we doing? I mean, like, stop. Just do not. I had to leave. I did. I got up, I said, I can't watch this.

[A]

What do you think?

[B]

But, I mean, George is trying to be.

[D]

I mean, yeah, I saw one where Remco was doing a yellow card, a fake yellow card, didn't he?

[B]

Yeah. I mean, space your pain.

[D]

Come on.

[B]

Let's look at the stage nine preview. I'm assuming we're gonna have another really, really hot day. Yeah, yeah.

[C]

Did you mention that, you know, that's

[B]

a breakaway, but what is.

[A]

Yeah, this is a Matt's Betterson day, actually.

[C]

That's a Coin Simmons day, baby.

[B]

Again, these stages, America stages are not that short. I mean, for this generation of cycling 108. They're just keep.

[C]

Man, you see like as a rider, you look at this profile and you're like, oh, man, this is going to hurt because it goes straight uphill from the start. 7 7k uphill. That's no joke. Even though it doesn't look like much on this profile, that's going to be a really tough day to control. A very tough breakaway to make. It's only gonna be the strong guys. No panic hooking breakaway tomorrow.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

But I think, arguably very exciting stage coming up.

[D]

Yeah, Very good. And hot as well.

[C]

Very hot.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

Bad asphalt, if I'm correct.

[C]

Yeah. Oh, yeah.

[A]

The.

[D]

These were the worst stages, weren't they? These massive trials.

[C]

Yeah, worst. They were the worst. If. Especially if you're in the leaders jersey and you have to control just. Yeah, really does.

[B]

I'm curious because that profile doesn't have. Maybe it's just zoomed in a bit. But let me see here, because just looking at that profile, as jagged as it was, the total vert has got

[A]

to be total verts. Something 3,000 meter. 3,300 meters.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

Something uncomfortable.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

That's over 10,000ft. So here we're, you know, now we're into the meat of the race.

[D]

Right.

[B]

We're nine. Hard to believe that we're already talking about the ninth stage. Yeah.

[D]

Hot.

[B]

Every day, slow pavement. Guys. Guys have been getting their teeth kicked in. And so then the mind starts to go, what do we got? What are we doing here? Right. You combine a little bit of mental fatigue with slow pavement, with heat, with 10,000ft of climbing.

[D]

So this is the sort of stuff last year where we had those breaks with Ben Healy and Van der Poel, wasn't it? These kind of.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

Tough days. The day that Simon Yates won, if you remember.

[A]

Yeah, almost exactly.

[C]

So do you think Ben Healy is kind of hanging back right now?

[D]

I don't know. I did think that looking at the results yesterday. That was his sprint stage yesterday. I think he lost about eight minutes yesterday.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

And I. I think, you know, I wouldn't underestimate Ben specifically.

[C]

That profile suits Him Perfectly.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

One thing to note about tomorrow's stage and tomorrow's finish, no matter if it's some kind of a group or a breakaway, it is about the final kilometer after all of those. After the stage we just showed you is about 3% uphill. That's just hard enough. Right.

[A]

Who do you guys think is going to win?

[D]

That's a good question. It's tough to read.

[B]

George's hard.

[D]

I mean, I, I.

[C]

You got my pick.

[A]

Yeah. Quinn Simmons. It's a little complicated, though, with Matt's.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, I know.

[C]

Yeah. Unfortunately, he might have to be. Unfortunately, he might be in the breakaway with Mads, and then he'll have to do a lot of work for him.

[D]

Yeah, I. I think this could be a stage for someone like Carapace. You know, if it goes off tomorrow in the start and there's a big move and, you know, Visma trying to get in there and someone from UAE trying to get in there to marshall it. Someone like Carapace sneaking into those kind of out.

[A]

The GC who lost a bunch of time yesterday, Richard Carapace.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

A little suspicious.

[C]

I don't see Carapats going in that early 50k. I can see his team keeping the breakaway close enough to where he bridges up on one of these middle climbs. That's more his style, but you're right, he could be a really good.

[B]

Yeah, he's sneaky.

[C]

He is sneaky.

[B]

I had the most. This is so cool. Like, this. Sometimes this stuff happens, and I'm like, you're just like, this is crazy. This shit is crazy. The other day, I'm telling the story, or George starts telling the story about 2003. Tough year for me. Every minute of that tour, I thought, there's, I can't do it. And that. That never. I never thought that. But I was like, wow, this is the year Jan gets me. I just can't do it. And George in the back of the bus keeping. If you didn't listen to the show two days ago, I'll give you a little refresher. Just keep. Just kind of keeping me there, like, hey, man, today's the day. Come on, hang in there. And he had this 2003. We're dating ourselves, but he had this white thing, ipod. Everybody else had, like, a Discman. Anyways, he had this thing. And so I'm spinning through. Have to go past all his crazy music. And I say it a couple days ago, I said, oh, Incubus. He got Incubus on here. I spent the rest of the tour listening To Incubus. Anyways, I get home later in the day, I get a picture from my old friend Peter park, who I think is one of the greatest trainers in the world. And he sends me this picture of him. That's him on the right and Brandon, the singer for Incubus.

[C]

That's awesome.

[B]

They are in the gym watching the podcast.

[C]

What?

[B]

Unbeknownst to them, I am telling the story of the 2003 tour. These guys are like, brandon's probably in the middle of something.

[A]

Wait, what?

[B]

Put them down.

[C]

Text him to see if we can wrap up today's show with Incubus song.

[B]

How sick. And I.

[A]

And I.

[B]

And. And I must confess, ever since Peter sent me that message yesterday, Incubus just heavy rotation, nice. That's all. That's all I got going. How cool is that? I mean, I had. I didn't know Peter trained Brandon. I certainly didn't know that they were in the gym together. But, dude, you imagine. That is sick.

[C]

That is super sick.

[A]

That is crazy.

[D]

God

[B]

love that. By the way, the drummer for Incubus. Now, I did know this because I've ridden with him. I think he lives in and around the Santa Barbara area. So that photo was taken in Santa Barbara, and I've ridden with the drummer for Beast. I wrote Gibraltar. Well, with this cat, he's a beast, huh? So I figured I might. But the fact that it happened live,

[C]

one of the hardest climbs in America. Gibraltar.

[A]

Agreed.

[D]

Agreed.

[B]

Colt 1. What do the people want to talk about? Guys, this is Katie from Payonia, just over the hill from you. I'm a chef, and I've worked a lot of catering events around the Aspen and Denver area, and it makes me wonder about food on the tour. Not when they're racing, but the after. Do teams travel with their own chef? Do they rely on the hotels where they're staying?

[D]

Like, how do they eat?

[B]

Thanks for everything you do. Your podcast is great and I love you guys. Thank you. Thank you, thank you. Thank you. Katie, Good question. That has evolved a lot over the last 30 years. If you go back, maybe started to evolve, really 25, 30 years ago. Before that, you just. You stayed in the hotels that ASO gave you, and you walked down to that hotel restaurant and ate what they gave you, which was probably just some. Some overcooked pasta, some day old bread. I have a fun story about day old bread and that you just ate what they gave you. And that's, you know, and. And actually, Jim Okowitz was one of the first to bring a chef, Willie Willie was our. Was a Swiss guy who came and cooked for us.

[C]

Who you met on an airplane. Swiss Air.

[B]

He met on Swiss.

[D]

He was.

[B]

He was a steward on Swiss Air. And then we had Duffy. All those years with. With Postal. But now I. Bradley, you would know. You guys would. I don't know. I think every team has somebody.

[D]

Every team has at least some sort of van. Transit van, which is a kitchen van.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

They may take that food into the restaurant to eat, but half the teams, at least half, certainly have a bigger truck. Like a. Like a kitchen truck. Like a kitchen truck with a restaurant in it.

[C]

I actually have a video that I took when I was at Volta Catalunya that if I can pull it up before the end of the show, I'll send it to.

[B]

Even in races like that, the big teams have kitchen.

[C]

Kitchen trucks. Personal, like chefs and. And some of them even have dining rooms inside of the trucks.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

It's kind of insane. Now.

[A]

I was at Switzerland, and they. It was a smaller team. I was staying in their hotel, and they were cooked. Like, they had a little truck, and they're just cooking up the food, and they bring it into the hotel to feed the riders.

[D]

Yeah. But that's even trickled down to under 23 level. But to Ben, my son Ben, his team, they have a kitchen truck, you know, that they. Yeah. So it's crazy.

[B]

Must be nice.

[C]

We need a kitchen truck. Try to go fund me.

[D]

We didn't have one with sky when I won the tour.

[A]

Really?

[D]

We had Soren, who was our chef, who came from csc, and he would get allowed into the kitchens of the hotel and prepare the food.

[B]

But early, initially, that was a hard sell.

[D]

Yeah, that was hard. From health and safety.

[B]

And these hotels would be like, you know, a guy they've never seen or ever met.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

He says. He rolls up and says, I'm gonna. I'm gonna borrow this part of your kitchen. They were like, no, there wasn't always. At least with Duffy and our chef, like, there were times where he said, they just won't let me in.

[D]

Yeah, yeah, we used to have that.

[B]

Chippo was always a big. I don't know. I was not there. But I heard the story that at one year at Trino Ad. Radical, because this was back in the day when you just had to eat the hotel's food, by the way, no guarantee on timing. Like, they were going to bring the food when they were ready to bring the food. Chipo says if I don't get food in five minutes, I'm going to start throwing plates. This is true story, George.

[C]

Yep.

[B]

Okay. Three minutes pass. He says, you got two minutes.

[C]

I found the video.

[B]

Five minutes passes, no food. He starts just picking up plates, just starts breaking plates. The other fun story, and I think this was Andy Hampstead, who doesn't sound like he would say anything. He's not a very aggressive guy. But he said. He said to the guy from the. From the hotel, he said, hey, what does it take? He said, the bread is stale. How do I get today's bread? And the guy says, come back tomorrow.

[D]

And Italy is one of the few places where, you know, two weeks into a race, you know, Jira or whatever, and you kind of get a bit sick and tired of the same old stuff that your own chef is preparing. You stay in a lovely place and you're like, actually, I wouldn't mind the hotel food tonight, because Italy, of course, across the board, wherever you go, even gas stations, service stations on the motorway, the food, nine times out of ten is pretty good.

[A]

Does the team let you do that or no? You gotta eat the.

[D]

Yeah. I mean, now they're counting all the calories the riders have left, aren't they?

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

On the table and, you know, working out what they've expended, what how much they put out and how much the riders have left and what they've consumed.

[C]

Skills.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

They have to weigh their food.

[B]

And the other thing I think is important to know, not. Not to be that guy. But in terms of contamination, I mean, these teams really want to control every ingredient. I mean, obviously weighing things and making sure the writers are getting what they need or don't need, but no outside exposure. And that makes perfect sense. Perfect whether it's, you know, any kind of contamination.

[A]

I think, like, Matthew Ricatella got food poisoning at the Dofine. I was like, was he out, like, getting street tacos? Like, what. How does that happen?

[B]

Probably not at the Dolphin Coffee name, but I forgot to say that number. Just give us a jingle. 970-718-2736.

[C]

And to close the loop on that question, I do have the video ready for the Love Kitchen truck that I filmed back in the Volta de Catalunya. All right, so this is.

[B]

That's great.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

And this is a little truck, right, George?

[C]

Yeah, truck. It's a kitchen truck.

[A]

That's cool.

[D]

Little U Haul.

[B]

What team is that? And where would they eat?

[C]

They ate in the dining room.

[B]

They eat in the dining room, yeah. Because sometimes you say they have actual dining dining trucks.

[D]

We kind of need One of them for next year. Upstairs lunch. When we finished our gym session.

[B]

I know what you know. And Katie's just over the hill. I thought, I thought this started out as like, hey, I'm Katie from Peonia, which is just over the hill. I, I thought we were going to go to, hey, I'd love to just come make you boys gourmet meals.

[A]

Imagine if we had one of these

[D]

food trucks post gym session before the show.

[A]

Yeah. Well worth the expense.

[C]

Yeah. If we do the show in Europe next year, I can make some calls, Rent a team team kitchen truck.

[B]

All right, what else we got?

[A]

Colton?

[B]

Hi, this is Michael from Texas. Since Lance always hates on the polka

[D]

dot jersey, I was curious where you

[B]

would kind of rank fees for achievement. Winning a single stage in the Tour wearing the yellow jersey for exactly one day. Winning the polka dot jersey at the end of the Tour or winning the Giro GC overall.

[C]

Wow.

[B]

I mean, that's. That, that, that, that. Michael, that is a great question.

[D]

Very good.

[B]

Listen, the, the Giro is.

[A]

I'll just.

[B]

The Giro is bigger than winning a stage. It is. I mean, if you're going to win the pink jersey overall, that's bigger than winning a stage in the Tour. France, TDF stage second, A day in yellow third, and Polka Dot fourth.

[D]

Interesting.

[A]

So you'd rather win a stage in the day than a day in yellow?

[B]

Yep.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

Yep.

[B]

Yeah. I think, I think career. Yes, absolutely. Yeah.

[D]

I would say a day in yellow ahead of a stage.

[A]

I think so.

[C]

Really?

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

See, this is why we let people ask questions. Yeah. And this is why we try to answer. I, I don't, I.

[D]

Maybe that's.

[B]

I don't even think twice about that.

[D]

I think, I think maybe that's because I'm British as well. Because, you know, you grow up watching Tommy Simpson. First ever Brit to wear the yellow jersey. You know, then of course, Sean Yates, Chris Boardman, David Miller. So I was the fifth then. So it was kind of, you know, you grew up watching that and, and there wasn't many of us.

[C]

So.

[B]

Remember this guy?

[A]

We were with him in Ostenda. Jan Bakalance. He. I only remember him because he wore the yellow.

[D]

Yeah, yeah.

[A]

And there's a lot of stage winners, you know.

[D]

Well, we were talking about Alex Steater the other day. Yeah, that one day in yellow, which,

[A]

which I remember him. Yeah. Yeah.

[D]

I mean, it's a good question.

[C]

I had one day in yellow.

[D]

You had a day together.

[B]

Not according to, not according to, to some people. Listen, there are people in this sport who believe that people don't have memories.

[C]

Yeah, Yeah.

[D]

I remember you wearing those behind you.

[B]

You did not. And according to Andy, Hooded Velone is.

[A]

You did.

[B]

You never had the AL jersey. Just saying. Hey, but, Michael, here's. Here's the last thing on that. And I know I always bag on the polka dot jersey.

[D]

And you're right.

[B]

And it's because the best. Whoever is in that jersey should absolutely be the best climber in the race. So, for example, right now, Toddy Pogachar has the polka dot jersey. I. I dislike the jersey a lot less.

[D]

Have you always disliked it? Yes.

[B]

Yes. Because I was in the race. I knew exactly I was the best climber in the race.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

And you'd have these varnks out there, all these other people running around for these little cat threes and cat fours. Come on, man. It has to be weighted. It has to be. Whoever is given the polka dot jersey in Paris should absolutely and definitively be the best climber in the race.

[D]

I mean, Pentani never won the.

[B]

Well, that's crazy.

[D]

Yeah. Kia Pucci did. And there's some iconic.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

Stages when Kia Pucci would go off the front.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Those are Induran gifts.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

I agree with Lance. Like, there should be.

[D]

It.

[A]

It should be. If weighted correctly, like, usually the best climber is going to win the race, but that's not always true. Like, so it'd be kind of cool if, you know, let's say Jonas was the better climber this year, and he's the KOM jersey. And.

[D]

But I think the white jersey has also lost its mid.

[A]

They gotta change that.

[D]

And it's under 26.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

Well, that's gonna have to change now.

[D]

How many guys win the tour? 21, 22. Nil.

[B]

Yeah, it's gonna have to change.

[D]

And so it's.

[A]

It's kind of a bit of TAD just became ineligible for us. We're talking about a retiring.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

It's where it was always a star of the future, that jersey.

[B]

These things should not be opportunistic.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

And.

[D]

And.

[B]

And I. I don't think. Now. Plenty of people disagree totally. Okay. That's just my view.

[A]

The white jersey is good again this year, though, because we have Del Toro and success, who are young.

[B]

Yeah, I do that. To your point, they have to move it down.

[D]

Well, I think they could exchange it for one of the most beautiful jerseys that's ever been in the front, which was. Combine jersey.

[B]

Combine jersey, which was a great jersey.

[C]

That was a great jersey. Yeah.

[B]

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