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Rachel Sennett
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Host of Therapuss
Hi, welcome back to Therapuss. Tonight we have on actress, writer, director, creator Rachel Sennett. She has written and created the new HBO series I love la, which I had the privilege of seeing a few episodes of already. And it is incredible. She is incredible. The whole cast is incredible. I'm so excited for you guys to see it. And I have loved her ever since I saw her in Bodies, Bodies, Bodies, which is really one of my favorite movies ever. I just think she's great and I'm so happy that I got the chance to talk to her and I'm so excited for you guys to get to know her more. If you don't already, as always, to submit, tell me what's wrong. So to passthatpost.com and leave a name and number if you're feeling fancy. Okay? Enjoy the episode. Love you. Are you ready?
Rachel Sennett
I'm ready. Sorry. No, I'm already. I'm so excited.
Host of Therapuss
I feel like we're kind of like we're already sort.
Rachel Sennett
No, I. I knew it was gonna.
Host of Therapuss
Be this way ever since I saw you in Bodies, Bodies, Bodies. Which is, by the way, my mother's favorite favorite movie of all time.
Rachel Sennett
Your mother.
Host of Therapuss
My mom called me and she goes, have you ever seen Bodies, Bodies, Bodies? And I go, yes.
Rachel Sennett
Oh, my God.
Host of Therapuss
It's just the best movie I've ever seen.
Rachel Sennett
I love that.
Host of Therapuss
The best movie. You're from the tri state area.
Rachel Sennett
I'm Tri state area, baby.
Host of Therapuss
I'm Tri state area too. Love.
Rachel Sennett
That's probably why we just.
Host of Therapuss
It's a talking thing.
Rachel Sennett
It's a talking thing. Well, we're at this pace, which to other people is sometimes a lot, right? Sometimes too much. I'm like, we're going. We have to. We have to talk this fast.
Host of Therapuss
Else is there to do.
Rachel Sennett
What else is there to do? I think also it's like, if you. If we're going at this pace on the east coast, it's normal. If you're going at this pace in la, everyone's like, whoa, yeah, slow down, slow it. I'm like, we're being normal.
Host of Therapuss
I. But it's weird because maybe that's why I love LA so much.
Rachel Sennett
Where's my camera to? Oh, yeah, yeah.
Host of Therapuss
Because I feel so different.
Rachel Sennett
Yes, I love that too.
Host of Therapuss
Yeah.
Rachel Sennett
And I feel like you can get. You can basically, like, you can use your east coast mentality on the west coast and, like, fly, you know, versus sometimes I feel like the east coast, already an anxious person, already, like, already have all my, like, problems. And I'm like, being sometimes on the east coast, it, like, exacerbates it. And I'm like. They're like, do this more. Double down, right? Faster, louder, crazier, feel worse. And then here, everyone's like, chill out. And so it's like, it takes the edge off a little bit. Me with the edge taken off is still, like, other people at their worst.
Host of Therapuss
Yes.
Rachel Sennett
If that makes sense.
Host of Therapuss
I couldn't agree more. You know, also, I feel like what I love about L. A so much is that. And this is toxic of me, but, like, in New York, like, you know what? Everyone's thinking about you because they'll tell you.
Rachel Sennett
Yes.
Host of Therapuss
I don't want to know.
Rachel Sennett
I don't want to know.
Host of Therapuss
I don't want to know.
Rachel Sennett
Why to my face. Lie and talk about it behind my face. Talk about. Exactly. By the way, I say this all the time. I'm like, I know people are talking shit about me always. Okay.
Host of Therapuss
It's okay. I talk shit about people all the time.
Rachel Sennett
And by the way, I don't mean it. I don't. Sometimes I do, but I. A lot of times when I'm talking shit, I'm like, this is just, like, this is nothing.
Host of Therapuss
It's just words.
Rachel Sennett
It's just words. I'm just gonna say it.
Host of Therapuss
I.
Rachel Sennett
It's. I'm letting it go. You know what I mean?
Host of Therapuss
I. Talking shit to me feels like I have to do it.
Rachel Sennett
I have to.
Host of Therapuss
It's like working out. Like, I have to.
Rachel Sennett
It has to be my mouth. Yes.
Host of Therapuss
Or else, like, I'll explode.
Rachel Sennett
It's part of community building.
Host of Therapuss
I agree.
Rachel Sennett
It's totally important. I think also, it's like, there. There something I learned in LA is that, like, talking shit isn't that serious. Do you know what I mean?
Host of Therapuss
It never is.
Rachel Sennett
It never is. It can be fun, it can be lighthearted. I remember when I first I had, like, a dinner at my house, like, early on in la, and it was like, a group of friends and they were all, like, talking shit. And I was like, I. My lips are sealed. I have nothing to say. And everyone was like, just say, like, one thing about someone, anyone. And I was like. And I couldn't. And I was like, I'm taking myself too seriously.
Host of Therapuss
Mine is like, I don't even remember what I was shit talking yesterday. So, like, it's never that serious.
Rachel Sennett
No, it's never that. That serious.
Host of Therapuss
But if I catch you, it's serious.
Rachel Sennett
It's serious. It's serious. But I think, I think it's like, I think, like, sometimes also, like, talking is like, literally just like saying very, like, basic details to other people.
Host of Therapuss
She cut her hair.
Rachel Sennett
Yeah. No, literally, I'm like, I'm like, I need people talking about how I got highlights. I got highlights, I got highlights.
Host of Therapuss
And, you know, I noticed you did, because I was watching the show yesterday and then I'm noticing now your hair looks lighter.
Rachel Sennett
So I first thought I was gonna just not tell people that I got highlights. Never gotten anything done before. And I was just gonna try to, like, put it off as, like, summer.
Host of Therapuss
In the sun, of course.
Rachel Sennett
But it's like, it's like I want someone going around like, she got highlights.
Host of Therapuss
Yeah.
Rachel Sennett
Like saying it like that. Like, yeah, something's really going on. And it's like something is. By the way, it's like I'm freaking out, but I. That's like, that's shit. Talking to me is right. Is like describing things of like, she's really changing up her style, like that kind of stuff.
Host of Therapuss
Just basic details of life said in an off putting tone.
Rachel Sennett
Yes, yes, yes, yes.
Host of Therapuss
You don't mean it, and you don't.
Rachel Sennett
Mean it and it goes away.
Host of Therapuss
Are you, like, anxious about the, like, putting out your first show?
Rachel Sennett
Yes. Okay.
Host of Therapuss
It's not your first show. You shows on Comedy Central.
Rachel Sennett
It's my. Oh, yeah, that's true, that's true. I think it's the first thing that I'm doing that is like, it's very vulnerable, for sure. And I had like a. I've been going through a journey the past week because basically, like, the schedule was so intense where I. I didn't have time to be with my feelings ever on any day. It was like we were writing the show and then while we were still writing the show, we started prepping it, and then we were shooting it and we were still rewriting it. And then I directed an episode, we prepped that, we wrapped in New York, and then I flew back to L. A And I was like, editing the next day.
Host of Therapuss
You were personal or you were in the room?
Rachel Sennett
I was editing, Yes. I wasn't like, clicking the button. I'm sitting there. I'm sitting there watching and going like, can you play that again?
Host of Therapuss
Right. I think you're all hands on deck.
Rachel Sennett
I'm all hands on deck.
Host of Therapuss
Okay.
Rachel Sennett
Show running.
Host of Therapuss
Right?
Rachel Sennett
Made up job that they just invented. That's really created by. Created by. It's scary. It's scary. And I just never had. And we were editing on the weekends when we were shooting. Like, it was so intense and so. And I kept being like, I can't feel anything. Like, I couldn't cry. Like, I used to be someone who cried all the time. I was like, I can't cry. I'm not. I'm. I'm cancer. I'm. I'm no cancer. Moan Cancer Moon. Virgo, Scorpio rising. But wet water.
Host of Therapuss
You're wet.
Rachel Sennett
Wet. And I. It's. I was just like, I can't feel anything. Whatever. But I know I'm really proud of the show. Then we, like, dropped the trailer. And for the first time I had like, not even a day off. Like a morning off. And I sat in my house and I was like, what's happening? And then I got really scared. And then I was like, I. All of a sudden I got scared and vulnerable. And then I was like, wait, do people know who. The real me? Blah, blah, blah. Is everyone gonna hate me? Whatever. And then I had a little bit more basically. Like, I feel like I like. Do you know when you push everything down because you don't.
Host of Therapuss
Yes, yes, yes.
Rachel Sennett
And then you have like a moment to like, open the valve or whatever.
Host of Therapuss
Never mind. Never mind.
Rachel Sennett
Literally close it. And then like, I. I started to have like a little bit of free time. And then I'm like sitting in my house. And then I'm like crying really hard. All of a sudden, manic high. Then, like, super horny. Alone in my kitchen at like 2pm and I'm like, I got to go jerk off. Like, it's so. It's like. But I think it's like this like, backlog of feelings and emotions. But all to say, I am excited and I'm proud of what I made. And I'm like, I know it's gonna find the right people.
Host of Therapuss
It absolutely will. I loved it. I'm on episode four.
Rachel Sennett
Oh, my God. Did you get so that you got one through four?
Host of Therapuss
I got one through five. Oh, so no, I got one through four initially. And then I checked my email two days ago and it was like, we.
Rachel Sennett
Followed up with five.
Host of Therapuss
Yeah, we followed up with five. And I was like, okay, okay. True is amazing.
Rachel Sennett
True is amazing. Literally, Claire and I were just in the car being like, she is a God damn genius.
Host of Therapuss
I love true.
Rachel Sennett
She is so funny.
Host of Therapuss
She. She has a really Good timing. But so does everybody in the show. How did you, like, pick the cast? Like, how did that casting come about? Okay, besides, like, obviously auditions.
Rachel Sennett
Yes.
Host of Therapuss
I.
Rachel Sennett
So, I mean, I just want to speak on True first, because you brought her up. Like, I think, like, what's so special about her is she has her own comedic timing and she has this thing where it's like, do you know when there's like a line on the. On a page, like, for an actor that's like, hey, how are you? Or whatever.
Host of Therapuss
Yeah.
Rachel Sennett
And in your head, there's like the obvious way that everyone says it, and then there's actors that are like, like, obviously, like Meryl Streep. She's like, hey, how are you? And you're like, God damn it, that was fucking genius. Like, whatever. Like, I should have said it like that. Like, I feel like True has comedic timing, right? I'm like, she's Meryl Streep. She. But she is. She. I think she's comedic timing where she. She does it in, like, her own way where I'm like, I never could have come up with that. And. But it's the funniest way, of course. And so basically we. We did auditions, and it was like a long audition process where it was like, auditions, callbacks, and then camera tests. And I'm an actor too, and I know how much auditions fucking suck. I literally was apologizing to everyone the entire time.
Host of Therapuss
Oh, did you have, like, people in LA being like, like, I sent him my thing. Like, yes.
Rachel Sennett
And I had. And I had, like, friends doing callbacks with me. And I was like, this is torture for me because I. I know what it's like. And it's like, it's a pain in the ass. You know what I mean? It's like, you have a call back at 2:00pm, your whole morning is ruined. You're just sitting there like this, waiting to do the thing. You log on to zoom. You talk to people for 15 minutes, you log off and then you're like, who am I?
Host of Therapuss
Did that suck?
Rachel Sennett
Did that suck? Like, do you like, do you hate auditioning?
Host of Therapuss
I. Okay, so I. It depends if, like, I don't. I like doing self tapes. And then I'm like, I hate never. Because you never hear back. You find out, like, you'll open Instagram. It's like someone posts a deadline thing, it's like, oh, well, there it goes. Okay. Yeah, yeah. Like, you know what I mean?
Rachel Sennett
Yes. It's. It's. It's just brutal.
Host of Therapuss
Do you remember, like, the thing, like, do You. Have you ever lost a role that you're like, you? I was convinced I'm getting it. And it was like the worst feeling in the entire world.
Rachel Sennett
Yes. For something I auditioned for when I was still in college.
Host of Therapuss
Okay.
Rachel Sennett
And I just, like, in my head, I think it was like the first grown up audition that I had gotten. And I. I rehearsed it, like, every single day. And then I went in and the casting director was like. He was like. That was really good and, like, super positive to me. Later on, I learned they were just, like, nice to everyone.
Host of Therapuss
Bring back being mean because I want to. I keep getting my hopes up. They're like, you're amazing.
Rachel Sennett
You're amazing.
Host of Therapuss
I know we're never gonna talk to you again.
Rachel Sennett
Yeah. And I left and I was like. I remember I, like, bought myself, like, a nice lunch. I was like, I booked it. And then I was like, never hurt. It was. And it was a small role too, but I just felt I. It was like my. It was like, I felt really good. And then. And then reality hit me.
Host of Therapuss
Did you start. Well, you. Okay, did you. Were you always into acting? And then comedy came later because you said that you got into comedy via, like, an open mic night, right? On a date.
Rachel Sennett
Yes. I always lean towards comedy, like, in terms of stuff. Like, I loved acting and performing, and I always lean towards, like, funny stuff. And then I went to NYU acting, and the program I was in was very, like, serious, and I was like, I am not doing Shakespeare right. Or whatever. Like, they. And it felt a little bit like the program was sort of like, about, like, basically, like, smoothing everybody out and sort of like. Like, we're all doing the same Shakespeare model the same way. And I was like, well, then I can't. I. I'm not good at that. And so I started looking for. And I never got cast at any of the school plays. Like, I didn't. There were all these, like, school opportunities that I didn't get that I tried for, that I didn't get. And then I just started looking for. And I tried out for the school improv and the sketch groups. Didn't get into those. So I just started looking for other opportunities. And that's how I found Stand Up. That's how I did, like, all the student films. That's how I, like, started writing stuff. But comedy was always, I think, the instinct for me. Yeah.
Host of Therapuss
And did you end up. And you started doing just open mic nights after you, like. Is that where you, like, really started? Because you said you didn't get into like, school stuff. But did you. Where did you start, like, practicing outside of school?
Rachel Sennett
I. It was. It was definitely open mics. I, like, was. I had gone on, like, a couple of dates with a guy who also went to college with me who was like, you should do stand up with me. And he, like, took me to, like, an open mic, and that was my first open mic.
Host of Therapuss
You just got up and did it.
Rachel Sennett
I just got up and did it.
Host of Therapuss
You just started talking.
Rachel Sennett
I. I planned what I was gonna say. I still have it on my phone.
Host of Therapuss
Really?
Rachel Sennett
Because I have voice recordings of every open mics that I ever did.
Host of Therapuss
Wow.
Rachel Sennett
Yeah. I went back and I listened the other day, and I was like, this is so bad. It's shocking, but in the moment, were.
Host of Therapuss
You like, I ate.
Rachel Sennett
Absolutely. Which I think is like, the thing for stand up is, like, the first time you do it, you. You. You get such an adrenaline rush where you're like, I'm talking in front of all these people, and they're listening and they're laughing. And they're laughing because also, for your first time, you go up on stage and you're like, this is my first open mic. So everyone sort of, like, supports you, whatever. And then after that, you just suck shit for, like, three years, and you're chasing the high of the first time you did it, and then you sort of start to get, like, a little bit better.
Host of Therapuss
And did you meet. You met IO through. Not open mic, but a sketch right through.
Rachel Sennett
Yes, we did. We did a sketch together. So we both didn't get into, like, the sketch improv group.
Host of Therapuss
How.
Rachel Sennett
And then, like, sort of. We both did. We, like, bonded over that. I remember we, like. We did a sketch together where I was like, oh, my God, she is the funniest person ever. Just ever. And then, like, we did open Mice together. We, like, were. We would shoot these little sketches together. Like, basically, like, I think our friendship grew and, like, we would do stuff together. And, like, I remember I made her do. I had this show called Puke Fest that I did with my friend Moss in his basement, where it was like a drinking game show. And I was like, you have to do this show. Whatever. And she was so funny. Like, it was just sort of like, us basically, like, doing stuff together and finding our own spaces, I think, to do comedy or perform when we weren't, like, we didn't make it into the sort of, like, pre.
Host of Therapuss
I don't know, precursor.
Rachel Sennett
Oh, I don't even know what that.
Host of Therapuss
So you know what? I haven't said that word in Years.
Rachel Sennett
It came out so natural.
Host of Therapuss
Yeah. Wow.
Rachel Sennett
Precursor.
Host of Therapuss
Precursor.
Rachel Sennett
What does that mean?
Host of Therapuss
It's like before, until, like, the thing.
Rachel Sennett
Yes, yes. The precursor. The precursor. The precursor groups. The. The precursor. It does not coming out for me.
Host of Therapuss
No. And you know what? And the best part is, I don't even think that's the right word.
Rachel Sennett
It's not?
Host of Therapuss
Why?
Rachel Sennett
It's just like. There's no way that was the right word.
Host of Therapuss
Precursor to, like, success. Yeah. Okay.
Rachel Sennett
We were.
Host of Therapuss
We.
Rachel Sennett
We. It sounded fabulous to me. It's basically any of the things that we expected or, like, any of the things set up by the school or whatever we didn't get into or find a way into. So we, like, made our own ways, and I think that was really fun and exciting to do together.
Host of Therapuss
So you liked college?
Rachel Sennett
I like life more and more every year. I've never wanted to go backwards, ever. I liked. I like college, like, retrospectively, in terms of. I met so many of my best friends there that I'm still friends with to this day, and I learned a lot, but I was kind of miserable.
Host of Therapuss
I was. Well, I feel like.
Rachel Sennett
Well, I feel miserable. Of course. Yeah.
Host of Therapuss
Every day I was like, I'm miserable. But then I left and I was like, oh, shit.
Rachel Sennett
Yeah, but.
Host of Therapuss
And I agree with you, I kind of like life more and more because maybe it's because, like, I don't know. Why. Why do you think it is that you like life more and more every year?
Rachel Sennett
I think, like, life more and more every year because, like, I don't know, you learn shit and you become more yourself. And, like, I feel like I was always someone who was like, I need to do this. Do stuff with my life, and I need to be, like, busy and. What. Like, I feel like I have, like. My mind is sort of like. It, like, chews on stuff, and if it doesn't have anything to chew on, it chews on itself.
Host of Therapuss
Yes.
Rachel Sennett
Same brain.
Host of Therapuss
Wow.
Rachel Sennett
Do you feel that?
Host of Therapuss
Wow.
Rachel Sennett
Yeah. It's like I will. I will eat myself alive in my brain. But now I have a job where I'm really busy, and so then I can eat at my job and. And find things, whatever. But, like, I. I really. And then also, it's like you just figure shit out. Like, it's like you. You go on Accutane and your skin stops driving you crazy. You get better at sex. I was on accusation.
Host of Therapuss
Your skin is amazing.
Rachel Sennett
Shout out, Accutane. Shout out.
Host of Therapuss
You had bad skin.
Rachel Sennett
Oh, my God. I had the worst skin.
Host of Therapuss
What the is in Accutane?
Rachel Sennett
Magic. I keep trying to Be like, let me do a commercial for Accutane. They're like, they don't need you.
Host of Therapuss
Wait, do they do commercials?
Rachel Sennett
No. Because they don't need you. Because it's Accutane. Because it's like, we all know about it.
Host of Therapuss
But aren't the side effects to Accutane like, death?
Rachel Sennett
It's it. Did you do it?
Host of Therapuss
No.
Rachel Sennett
Okay. You have amazing skin. You never had bad skin?
Host of Therapuss
No.
Rachel Sennett
Okay.
Host of Therapuss
Except when I shaved my eyebrows when I was a kid. I got pimples right there.
Rachel Sennett
I love. Actually, do you know what I love is when someone who's never had bad skin, it just is, like, proud in that because. So. Because when I had acne. Acne, it was like I was always talking to girls with, like, perfect skin who were like, I break out, too, on my period. Like, you just. You can't really see it, but I feel it. I'm like, shut the fuck up.
Host of Therapuss
Yeah, shut the fuck up.
Rachel Sennett
I had terrible skin, like, on and off. I had, like, hormonal acne. I had, like. It was just. It was just bad. And it would make me cry, and I would be, like, in the mirror. Substance vibes, like, doing shit to my face. It just. It drove me insane. And I tried everything. I tried, like, facials. I tried, like, naturopathic doctor. I tried, like, topicals, everything. And, like, it just drove me crazy. And then basically, I should have done Accutane during COVID I didn't because I didn't really know about it. And then I had a friend who did, and she was like, I did it during COVID It was genius. And I was like, shit, I should have done it during COVID because it makes you bleed. You can't pop any of your zits, right? Your skin is super dry.
Host of Therapuss
What?
Rachel Sennett
Your dry.
Host of Therapuss
I'm sorry. I'm sorry. That's what Accutane does.
Rachel Sennett
It basically, like, resets every, like, pore in your face. I don't really know how to describe it. Basically, what happened to me is that it was like I. All of a sudden, it. It almost, like, made every pimple that I was ever gonna have in my entire life come out. In the span of six months is what it felt like.
Host of Therapuss
Horrible six months.
Rachel Sennett
Horrible six months.
Host of Therapuss
And you were like, but how?
Rachel Sennett
And it made me depressed, but I couldn't tell if it was the pill or the fact that I was bleeding from my face.
Host of Therapuss
You just bleed.
Rachel Sennett
Like, you just. It's like every day you wake up and there's the. A new zit on your face, and it's Huge. And it's painful, and you can't pop it or your. Or your scar. Really bad.
Host of Therapuss
And then you just. After six months, you're like, oh, wait, my skin's clear.
Rachel Sennett
Yes.
Host of Therapuss
Okay.
Rachel Sennett
And it's like. And it's like. And you're so dry, and, like, your lips bleed and you have to reapply Aquaphor, and your skin is dry, your hands are chapped, and, like, you're so thirsty all the time and you can't drink. And you did.
Host of Therapuss
You. You didn't drink on Accut. Yes, you did.
Rachel Sennett
I did. Of course it's bad when you do it and you get drunk really quick, and then you get hungover really quick. And actually, after doing Accutane, I don't. Accutane. I feel like Accutane brought me into a new era of my life because afterwards I don't drink as much. Like, I tried to drink on it, and it made. I would get sick. And now I, like, don't really drink that much.
Host of Therapuss
How. Like, how many drinks per night if you're out?
Rachel Sennett
Like, two.
Host of Therapuss
What? Yeah, just two.
Rachel Sennett
Just two. And I don't even, like, I'll go. I'll go to. If I go to dinner, I'm like, I'll have a glass of wine.
Host of Therapuss
So when you were at, like, Charlie XCX's wedding, you had two drinks.
Rachel Sennett
I had, like, three.
Host of Therapuss
What?
Rachel Sennett
I'm trying to remember, but I feel like actually that's different. I. I had. I had more drinks, but. But they were spread out throughout the course of, like, a day and a night.
Host of Therapuss
Ye know what I mean?
Rachel Sennett
But I'm just saying. I don't. That Accutane, like, shifted alcohol for me.
Host of Therapuss
Do you?
Rachel Sennett
Me lying? I was like. I had three drinks.
Host of Therapuss
I was like, no, you didn't.
Rachel Sennett
That was a lie. That was a lie.
Host of Therapuss
That's okay. I lied.
Rachel Sennett
That was pick me behavior. That was real pick me behavior.
Host of Therapuss
No, I lied all the time.
Rachel Sennett
That the. The in general. I just mean Accutane made it so that I can't handle alcohol. It just doesn't. It's like. It's like Claire and I were talking about this the other day. It's like I get. I'm drunk for 20 minutes now and then, like, I'm tired, and then I have a. And then I'm hungover.
Host of Therapuss
Yeah, I mean, that dinner.
Rachel Sennett
Already hungover. So I'm like, why? What am I getting drunk for?
Host of Therapuss
Right? It's miserable. Yeah, it's actually miserable.
Rachel Sennett
But I'm bringing back weed for me, Rachel.
Host of Therapuss
Me too.
Rachel Sennett
Oh, my God, and it feels so good. But I think I needed to take time away to come back to it.
Host of Therapuss
I took 10 months off.
Rachel Sennett
Oh. I took, like. I took, like. I took years off because I was getting really paranoid and weird, too. But now I realize I can totally smoke weed as long as I'm only with people I trust.
Host of Therapuss
I'm like, I can smoke weed twice a week.
Rachel Sennett
Perfect.
Host of Therapuss
And, like, in Those, I have 20 minutes where I am, like, peak, funny peak, creative peak, everything. And then it's silly.
Rachel Sennett
Yeah.
Host of Therapuss
And I just need to, like, chain myself to my bed so I don't go down and eat.
Rachel Sennett
No, it's totally fine. I just need to do it. I just need to time it right so that the second I turn evil, I'm asleep.
Host of Therapuss
Right. Oh, my God. Yes. I used to have, like, manic breakdowns on me.
Rachel Sennett
Yes. Yes.
Host of Therapuss
Like, manic paranoid delusions.
Rachel Sennett
Yes. I just need to be, like, around, like, a best friend or my boyfriend. And then once it turns bad, it's like, just put me to bed and it's fine.
Host of Therapuss
Or I'll take, like, an Advil pm. Do you ever take anything to go to bed?
Rachel Sennett
Yes.
Host of Therapuss
What do you take?
Rachel Sennett
I'll take an Advil PM or a bed. I need to chill. Because. I need to chill because it's like, everyone takes it so seriously. Every day I'm tagged in a pharmaceutical article about beta blockers, and I'm like, you guys, this. It's not that serious, but it's like, I need to chill about being like.
Host of Therapuss
You know, like, because.
Rachel Sennett
Because every day they're like, she's on pills. And then it's like, there's, like, videos of me talking, and people are like. People are like, she's on pills. I'm like, I'm just stupid.
Host of Therapuss
You can't take a Klonopin and go do an interview. You'll fall asleep.
Rachel Sennett
Asleep.
Host of Therapuss
You'll. I took a clown on the 4th of July this year.
Rachel Sennett
Yeah.
Host of Therapuss
Hold. I. Done.
Rachel Sennett
Just. Just for the play. Just for the play. It's a lot to take to. For the plan. Yeah. The day. It's. It's.
Host of Therapuss
You're. You're done.
Rachel Sennett
You're done.
Host of Therapuss
And it's amazing.
Rachel Sennett
And it's amazing.
Host of Therapuss
It's amazing.
Rachel Sennett
And it's amazing.
Host of Therapuss
I had it. I was having, like, a. I was, like, freaking out. One day, my friend was like, girl, take a clown. And I was like, I've never. And she was like, just.
Rachel Sennett
Just.
Host of Therapuss
And I was like. And I looked at her, I said, you can't give me these ever. Again. Because I went to bed and I woke up and I was like, that was the closest thing to magic I've ever had.
Rachel Sennett
It's amazing. Yeah, but that's why it's, like, you have to have. It's, like, for travel, I get nervous if it's, like, a really long flight or I'll get sick. No. But I'm trying to make it seem. I just can't be awake for 12 hours on a plane.
Host of Therapuss
You can't. What are you gonna do? What do you do?
Rachel Sennett
What do you do?
Host of Therapuss
What do you do?
Rachel Sennett
Nothing. Nothing. It's not gonna be good for anyone if I'm awake on a flight.
Host of Therapuss
It's a plane.
Rachel Sennett
Really bad.
Host of Therapuss
You have a plane album that you listen to?
Rachel Sennett
No, I usually have, like, a takeoff song.
Host of Therapuss
What's your takeoff song?
Rachel Sennett
But it depends on where I'm at.
Host of Therapuss
Okay.
Rachel Sennett
Like, basically, to me, what I listen to. Taking off on a flight is like, how the next. How the trip is gonna be or where I'm going. So I'll do a song depending, like, how I'm feeling, you know?
Host of Therapuss
So let's say you're sitting there and you're feeling excited about your trip, but, like, you're like, this flight's gonna suck. What are you listening to?
Rachel Sennett
I. Let me look at. Let me look at my phone and let me. And see what I've been. But is recent. Okay. I've been listening to the Scissor Sisters.
Host of Therapuss
Never heard the Scissor Sisters before.
Rachel Sennett
Oh, my God.
Host of Therapuss
I need to.
Rachel Sennett
You would love.
Host of Therapuss
I know.
Rachel Sennett
It's really like. This is sort of like, should I play it for my phone? Is that annoying?
Host of Therapuss
No.
Rachel Sennett
Play it or no? Because then we can't put it in the thing.
Host of Therapuss
Number one, that. Number two, like, what if I don't like it?
Rachel Sennett
Let's not dig into the Scissors Sisters later. And I'll text you and you'll text me and let me know, right? Yeah. Off cam. Off cam. Off cam. Perfect.
Host of Therapuss
But so do you. What were we talking about?
Rachel Sennett
We. You asked me how I cast the cast, and then we. And then we got here. Can you believe that? We told. We went. It's just. It's just because we. It's just we have the gift of gab.
Host of Therapuss
We have the gift of gab. And you know what? That's a sign of a really good friendship blooming.
Rachel Sennett
It's a thousand percent.
Host of Therapuss
That's how I feel.
Rachel Sennett
I feel. I felt instantly. We walked into the space. I felt safe with you.
Host of Therapuss
Yes.
Rachel Sennett
I knew I was gonna feel that way. I wasn't even nervous. I wasn't even nervous for a second. Kit.
Host of Therapuss
I love LA. So when does it premiere?
Rachel Sennett
November 2.
Host of Therapuss
November 2.
Rachel Sennett
November 2.
Host of Therapuss
And it goes until the holidays. Until the holidays. It's eight episodes.
Rachel Sennett
It's eight episodes Sunday nights. So ideally, what I'm hoping for, because when I was in college, me and my roommates did, like, Sunday nights. We would make banana bread, and then we would watch Big Little Lies. And I just want people to get their girls together and watch it together.
Host of Therapuss
And have HBO Sundays are special.
Rachel Sennett
They're special.
Host of Therapuss
HBO Sundays are the best day of the week.
Rachel Sennett
Yeah. And I wanted to. I want to deliver for you guys because for. For. And it's too. It's to the show. We've already made it, so there's nothing. There's nothing else to do. We just have to hope that. That it delivers for people. But the. The. The feeling, I. I love that feeling of, like, the communal watch and, you know, you' taken on a ride and you're going to have fun and there's going to be, like, a little, like, what's happening next at the end of the episode. Like, that's the. The. That experience. Right. I think is. Has always been so special to me, and hopefully people get that.
Host of Therapuss
What are you, like, what have you been watching recently? Like, the past year? Few years.
Rachel Sennett
I feel like, very recent. Like, when I was making the show, I was watching, like, older stuff. Like, I rewatched Atlanta.
Host of Therapuss
I've never seen Atlanta.
Rachel Sennett
Oh, my God.
Host of Therapuss
I know.
Rachel Sennett
Such a good show.
Host of Therapuss
Okay.
Rachel Sennett
It is. It is such a good show. It's so good. And they do, like, every episode, like, the second episode of that show. It's so hard to write a second episode of tv because for the pilot, you set everybody up and you're like, this is Bob, and he does this, and they're there the second episode. Now you need to, like, bring people into the world, but you have to, like, hook them, but you don't have the setup of the fur. It's so hard. The second episode of Atlanta is so genius because I'm not going to, like, spoil it for you, but it's. It does. It basically, like, turns it on its head of what you would expect, like, a second episode of television to be. I rewatched Atlanta. I watched Entourage also.
Host of Therapuss
Never seen.
Rachel Sennett
Love Entourage.
Host of Therapuss
I've heard it's the best of all time.
Rachel Sennett
It's so fun. It was, like, a big reference for the show. We were like, we want to do, like, Entourage for, like, Internet it girls.
Host of Therapuss
Right?
Rachel Sennett
That was a big Reference. I watched Sex in the City. I rewatched Girls. Like, I did. I did re watches of stuff.
Host of Therapuss
During.
Rachel Sennett
The making of the show because I was like, I want to sort of, like, basically, like, watch the things that made me feel alive when I first saw them.
Host of Therapuss
Right?
Rachel Sennett
Yeah. And Atlanta was one where I was like. Because I done Sex in the City, I've sort of watched, like, throughout, like, sporadically. Like, I've never done a full rewatch. I'm like, let me put on, like, big is Moving to Paris kind of thing.
Host of Therapuss
You like Sex in the City, though?
Rachel Sennett
I didn't. Well, I guess I watched it first. I watched, like. I watched it, like, I never watched it, like, in a row. Got it, but I liked it.
Host of Therapuss
I couldn't get behind it because I grew up in New York, and it felt so unrealistic to me.
Rachel Sennett
Okay, totally.
Host of Therapuss
So I was like, this just like. And I hated Carrie.
Rachel Sennett
You hated Carrie?
Host of Therapuss
I hated Carrie. I watched, like, two episodes. I was like, this girl sucks.
Rachel Sennett
But it's like, I relate to that because sometimes I'm like, this is what I felt the last week when I was, like, having my crush out. Before I went. Before I went to feeling good again is I. Every time I started to say a sentence in my mind, I would be like, shut up, you stupid fucking bitch. Like, it's like. It's like everything I would do, I would be like, what if people don't. What if I. Oh, my God, it might even, like. And then I was like, shut the fuck up. Shut the fuck up. Like, do you ever do that to yourself?
Host of Therapuss
No, I don't. I don't tell myself, shut the fuck up. I let the sentence go.
Rachel Sennett
You let this.
Host of Therapuss
And I crash out, like, so unbelievably hard.
Rachel Sennett
Yeah.
Host of Therapuss
It's, like, disgusting.
Rachel Sennett
That's good. But I sometimes feel the reason why I'm like, I get Carrie is because I'm like, sometimes I'm so annoying, and I can't help myself, and I wish I wasn't that way, but I am.
Host of Therapuss
No. And, like, the best creatives are annoying.
Rachel Sennett
It's. They're annoying. Yeah, they're annoying. We're annoying.
Host of Therapuss
The idol.
Rachel Sennett
Yes.
Host of Therapuss
What was that like?
Rachel Sennett
Okay, so I had fun and loved my character.
Host of Therapuss
Your character was amazing.
Rachel Sennett
I loved her. Leia, the diva. She. She was really. I was. It was so funny because I. I went into my fitting for the show, and I was like, I'm about to, like, pop my. And, like, look incredible and so hot. I was introduced to a pair of chunky loafer, like, Healed loafers, Tory Burch. And I was like, it's gonna be like that. I'm gonna be in a skinny jean and a blazer, right? And I'm gonna be. And this was really smart costuming by the costume designer, Natasha. She was amazing, but, like, I would wear the same thing again because of who the character was. So I was like. But basically, I went in and, like, saw all these, like, cunty outfits, and I was like, I wonder what I'm gonna be serving in this? And it's like, a blazer, right? A blazer and a chunky heel for the whole thing.
Host of Therapuss
Did doing the Idol lead to you creating a show with hbo?
Rachel Sennett
I think it definitely, like, furthered my, like, relationships there, but it's a different, like. So Amy Gravett, who is the head of comedy, she. That's, like, a different comedy is different than the drama. So I was, like, working with different people, but I think, like, I'm sure it helped them see me in the Idol, and then it's actually funny. My first, like, job ever was an HBO show. High maintenance, huh?
Host of Therapuss
Wait, and did. Is it true when you were pitching this show, initially, it was about someone that spoke to ATMs.
Rachel Sennett
I know. Well, so initially, I had a meeting with HBO because I had met with. I had had a general with Ali Wasserman, who also works in comedy at hbo, like, pre Covid years ago.
Host of Therapuss
Wow.
Rachel Sennett
So it was like, I'd had a meeting years ago, and then I had a meeting with Amy and Ali, and they were like, it's just a general. Like, you don't have to pitch anything. But I was like. I had a pilot that I had written about a girl who talks to ATMs, and then they talk to her. They.
Host of Therapuss
They.
Rachel Sennett
She fixed it. She's an ATM mechanic. But the ATMs, like, talk to her. She, like, she speaks to them. And obviously it didn't sell. So, like, what does that mean? No, clearly nothing.
Host of Therapuss
I. Like, what, like, what did the ATMs like, say back to her?
Rachel Sennett
They just all had different personalities, and they would all, like, tell her, like, what happened, like, on the street around them, kind of. It didn't sell. Obviously. It didn't sell. You know, it was. It was, like, based off of a short that I did, and then I had, like, another idea, basically. Like, I had two TV ideas that I had pilots or scripts for that I had, like, pitched before.
Host of Therapuss
Right.
Rachel Sennett
So basically, they were like, they just want to get to know you and, like, talk to you. They've read some of your writing, whatever. So I come in, I like hard pitch them both of those two ideas and they're kind of like, chill, you know, we don't need that. We, we just want to like, get to know you, whatever. And then they were talking to me, like, just asking me about my life and like where I was in that moment. And I started like talking about my Saturn return.
Host of Therapuss
How old are you?
Rachel Sennett
I just turned 30.
Host of Therapuss
Oh, so your Saturn return has returned.
Rachel Sennett
It has returned. But they actually my. One of my many astrologer psychics texted me being like, hey, you're basically Saturn has retrograded back into Pisces. How old?
Host of Therapuss
What?
Rachel Sennett
When were you born?
Host of Therapuss
How old do you think I am?
Rachel Sennett
26.
Host of Therapuss
Five. Very close. 26 in two weeks.
Rachel Sennett
Okay. I was gonna say 25 or 26.
Host of Therapuss
Yeah, yeah.
Rachel Sennett
So you. Okay. So you're actually safe. Yeah, you're safe.
Host of Therapuss
So you're not safe.
Rachel Sennett
Well, you're gonna be not safe soon.
Host of Therapuss
Why?
Rachel Sennett
When I. I'm sorry. So I think. So you were born in 99. 9.
Host of Therapuss
Like tail end.
Rachel Sennett
Okay, you have time. You have time. Things will get bad, but not for a little.
Host of Therapuss
So how bad is the Saturn return?
Rachel Sennett
It's really bad. But it's so good for you.
Host of Therapuss
How. When did it start for you? How old were you?
Rachel Sennett
Okay, it start. This is why I say this. If I could describe my 20s. 20. I can't really remember. 21. Hated myself. Mess mass. 22 for some reason, I feel like it was fun. 23 disaster. Full disaster for me. Worst year of my life. 24. It's like Covid maybe.
Host of Therapuss
Yeah, yeah, Covid.
Rachel Sennett
And. And I'm like, try. I'm confusing time. 25. I felt like I figured it out. Okay, it's good. 25 was good. 24 was sort of good too, for part of it. 25 good. 26 good. Then all of a sudden towards the end, it started to get bad. 27 bad.
Host of Therapuss
Like worst year of your life bad?
Rachel Sennett
No, 23 was the. Because 20. Basically what happens. Basically I felt like I suffered in my early 20s. Then I reached a sort of a period of peace. And then every like, lesson that I learned in my early 20s, I came back around like lightning round. It was like bam, bam, bam. Everything that I thought I already learned quicker and faster. I know. And all of these things that I thought that I was like, I was like, okay, I'm settled. Like I'm in my relationship for the rest of my life. I'm in my place that I'm living. I have my job. I know what I'm doing. Then it's like you basically have to decide you're either like, this is my life for the rest of my life, or I have to blow up my entire life and change everything.
Host of Therapuss
What?
Rachel Sennett
And I. And I blow up my entire life.
Host of Therapuss
What do you mean? Like, in what sense? Without getting into specifics, in the sense.
Rachel Sennett
That I basically, I just felt like I went through. It actually all happened in one month.
Host of Therapuss
Cool.
Rachel Sennett
But. But the themes were going around that time. Like, I felt like it was like, I just felt like basically, like I kept coming up against the same things, the same things over and over and over. And then I felt like in one month, I was, like, given a huge choice and decision in multiple facets of my life, and I had to decide. Like, do you know that TikTok sound that's like, you must, like, break the pattern of the thing tomorrow. Whatever. I could, like, hear that, like, loud in my head. And I was like, oh, my God. Oh, my God. Like, this is my chance. I have to, like, change this about myself. And I did, I think. But then. So then I thought, I'm healed. And I felt like I made it. But then basically, Saturn retrograded back into Pisces from now until Valentine's Day. So I have a little bit more Saturn return.
Host of Therapuss
Are you scared?
Rachel Sennett
I am. Everything that's come out of it has been good.
Host of Therapuss
Right?
Rachel Sennett
You have a show, I have a show. I. I think the lesson. I think it's more that I, like, never believed in myself on my own. I have trouble making decisions. I have trouble trusting my intuition. And I. But whenever I do finally trust my intuition, I'm like, God damn it. I should have done that like, three years ago.
Host of Therapuss
Do you ever feel like your intuition is the first thing you think? Like, you know, when you were taking a test as a kid and it was like, the first thing you think is always right.
Rachel Sennett
You're like. You're like C2. And then you're like, no, no, it's got to be a four. And then you walk yourself in circles. And then you take 20 minutes and.
Host of Therapuss
A C. Did you take the ACT or SAT?
Rachel Sennett
Yes.
Host of Therapuss
Which one?
Rachel Sennett
I think both.
Host of Therapuss
What?
Rachel Sennett
I want to say both. No. Sat.
Host of Therapuss
Okay.
Rachel Sennett
What is act? I remember I didn't bring water to the test, and I spent the whole time being like, I'm so thirsty right now. I'm so thirsty. That's all I can remember about the SATs.
Host of Therapuss
Did you like school? Like, did you enjoy class?
Rachel Sennett
I liked having rules.
Host of Therapuss
Me too. And routine?
Rachel Sennett
Yes, and routine. That's my, like, that's my Saturn return lesson is like, rules, control. I'm so like, I need control. I need control. But actually, the best things happen when I'm not in control and I'm just like, in full. What? I'm like, free falling into my intuition.
Host of Therapuss
Is that how Covet felt for you?
Rachel Sennett
Covid felt a little bit, yeah. Like, I. I basically, for so long, was like, imagining, like, things will go back to normal and I'll go back to the path that I was, like, supposed to go on.
Host of Therapuss
What was that path at the time?
Rachel Sennett
I just, like, I just felt like I had all these things that were happening that were supposed to, like. I was like, is like, Shiva baby gonna come out? We were supposed to go to south by. We were supposed to whatever. But then it actually. I think Covid ended up, like, helping. Helping because it's like people are gonna watch a screener for, like, a random indie movie on, like, their computers.
Host of Therapuss
Right.
Rachel Sennett
Is that how Covid felt for you?
Host of Therapuss
Covid felt for me. Like, I had this amazing internship lined up, which I was lucky enough to still do. Yeah. And I. I was so basically at the time, like, I was partying a lot because I was in college and I was really worried, how am I gonna juggle partying on this job? Which sounded stupid, But I was 19.
Rachel Sennett
Or 20, by the way. That's a real valid concern.
Host of Therapuss
Right.
Rachel Sennett
So many people, I feel this all the time. Like, you miss out on, like, this period of your life, and it feels like you're always like. That's why for so long, I was like, I need to go back to New York and. And like, fuck a bunch of people and drink all the time and feel like you missed out on something.
Host of Therapuss
That's how I fe felt.
Rachel Sennett
Yeah.
Host of Therapuss
That's how I was scared I was gonna feel. And then Covet happened and I stopped drinking. I stopped doing everything for, like a year. And I worked, and it was like, the best thing that ever happened to me.
Rachel Sennett
Yeah.
Host of Therapuss
Because then my boss at the time became my manager, and that's how I'm here.
Rachel Sennett
Yes.
Host of Therapuss
He was my boss because of this internship that I did well at. Because I wasn't drinking because of COVID Yes.
Rachel Sennett
So Covet was good for me, but ultimately it. Anything, nothing is ever what you expect it to be. And things that you think are going to be good or bad and things that you think are going to be better, good, like, it's like, that's why I'm like, I need to release and, like, let things be out of my control. That's What I'm. What I'm. What I think the last chunk of my Saturn return is going to be is I need to not try to control everything as the show comes out.
Host of Therapuss
Do you have trouble, like, not controlling, like, what people think about you and your narrative? Like, do you struggle with that? Yes, I struggle with that, too.
Rachel Sennett
It's really hard.
Host of Therapuss
It's very difficult, especially when they're like, this person seems like a bad person. Yeah. You're like, wait, what am I?
Rachel Sennett
By the way? It's like, I'm like, I am a bad person, but not for the reasons you think.
Host of Therapuss
Exactly.
Rachel Sennett
I need to talk to you and tell you what's actually wrong with me.
Host of Therapuss
Exactly.
Rachel Sennett
You guys are guessing what's wrong with me, and you're incorrect. There's. It's worse, actually.
Host of Therapuss
Are you worried that, like, when the show comes out, your narrative is going to be way out of your control?
Rachel Sennett
I'm certain it will be. I'm sure that it will. That's what I'm trying, actually. I'm like, peace. I'm trying to find peace. I'm trying to trust my gut, my intuition, and just, like, be free and let people say what they want and think what they want.
Host of Therapuss
Do you? Okay, so the show was initially gonna do it. Wait, I have to pee so bad.
Rachel Sennett
I have to be bad, too.
Host of Therapuss
Wait, really?
Rachel Sennett
Pause? Should we pause and pee?
Host of Therapuss
Pnp.
Rachel Sennett
Pnp.
Host of Therapuss
Let's pop.
Rachel Sennett
Okay, pop.
Host of Therapuss
Thank you, Bumble, for sponsoring tonight's episode. As you guys know, I have been working with Bumble over these past couple weeks, and it has really helped change my perspective on dating. As you guys know, I've almost infamously never had a boyfriend. I bring it up to every guest in every episode, and I think what Bumble has really helped me learn about dating is that I think some of the problems with dating apps in general is that you were initially, like, swiping left and right just based on someone's. How you. If you deem them attractive or not, you miss a great person because you don't read what they like or what their personality is or who they are or anything about them, and you're just judging them based on looks. And I think what Bumble does so great is that they really put such an emphasis on the prompts and really telling people who you are, and it helps you learn about that person instead of just liking or not liking them based on how they look. And like, that, for me, has helped my confidence with dating. And, yeah, it's really been great for me. And also, like, Working with them and doing, like, the tell me what's wrongs with them have been so awesome. I get to hear about your guys's dating experiences and, you know, share mine as well. Something I also think Bumble does really well is that you feel very safe and confident while using it. You have to verify your account, your phone number, like, you know that person you're talking to, if they are verified, is the real them. They also have the Share my date feature. So if you are on a date with someone, you can share your location with your friends and loved ones so that you feel safe. The two tips that Bumble has given me that have really resonated with me are to write a very unique bio, because that is something I look for when looking for a partner on Bumble, or highlighting your interests, because that is also, like, the next thing I look at. If you guys remember, when I revamped my profile, I had, like, working out, watching tv, and, like, I want someone, you know, with similar interests to that. And, like, I think interest. Having shared interests is one of the most important parts of, like, finding a good romantic partner. Really emphasizing your interest so people know who you are is, like, the best tips that I've gotten from Bumble. So thank you again, Bumble, for sponsoring this episode. I will continue to share my dating journey with you guys. Even if I don't have a boyfriend by the age of 40, I will still tell you guys about it. Shout out to Bumble's new app, bff, which I have also worked with. Brett and I were just in Dallas to promote the launch of it, which was so fun. BFF is so cool. In an age where we're so digital, to be able to make these, like, platonic relationships as well and have there be an app for that, you know, to make those friendships digitally and safely is something that's really cool. I think the BFF app is awesome, especially if you've moved to a new city or you're going to a new school. It was about time that there was an app, like a dating app, but for. But for friends. And I just think it's awesome. So thank you, Bumble. Now let's get back to the episode. How was your pee?
Rachel Sennett
Mine was incredible. How was yours?
Host of Therapuss
My pee was, like, sick. Like, I was peeing, and I was like, life is worth living.
Rachel Sennett
It felt really good. It did. While I was peeing, I was like, talk a little slower when you go back in. That was what? No, that's a. That's the thought that I had while I Was peeing.
Host of Therapuss
Okay, well, you know what? When you were gone, we were all talking about how amazing this is.
Rachel Sennett
I'm having the best time.
Host of Therapuss
I'm having the best time, too.
Rachel Sennett
That's how. I mean, that's why I'm talking fast.
Host of Therapuss
Because I'm like, wait, I love that you're talking fast. I talk fast, too.
Rachel Sennett
Well, the. The best feeling ever. I get into a state like this sometimes with, like, my best friends, my boy, what? My boyfriend, whatever, where it's like, you're like, I have so much to say that it's like things are basically. I'm like, we could go to 10 different topics right now. Like, if I'm only staying on a topic for, like, two minutes, and then I'm jumping to another topic, but I'm like, I know. We'll come back. We have the time, we'll move. We'll go all the way back around to this, but we're going down here first. Best feeling ever.
Host of Therapuss
It's the sign of a great conversation. Yeah, it really is. What I was gonna ask you, though, was so in. Famously, your show was called Untitled Rachel Senate Project Forever. What were the other. Other titles in the works besides I love L. A?
Rachel Sennett
Okay, so I basically, we. There were a lot of different titles. So many that are so bad.
Host of Therapuss
Like what?
Rachel Sennett
Like, I. I would have to look at. I feel like I, like, deleted them all from my brain. There's basically. It's a lot of pressure because it's like you've announced untitled, and it's like you keep saying it over and over and over, and then everyone's like, when are you gonna come up? When are you gonna come up with a name? But you're, like, still writing the show and whatever. Like, I was like, no matter what, it's gonna feel like, you know, we part. We talked about, like, keeping untitled and just calling it untitled, but then I was like, you know what? If people want to call it untitled, they can, like, you know what I mean? Or still call it Untitled.
Host of Therapuss
Yeah, whatever.
Rachel Sennett
There was this name that I liked, Climbers. Love that you like that.
Host of Therapuss
But I love. I like, I like. I love. I do. You see that?
Rachel Sennett
I love. Yeah, it's hard. It's hard.
Host of Therapuss
I love LA More.
Rachel Sennett
I love, I love la. I love la. I think it's like. I think the thing with climbers is that it was like. It was like a double meaning of, like, social climbers, but also, like, you have to, like. I feel like for this generation, it's like kind of a hamster wheel where Nothing is ever enough. And you never feel really, like, secure. I think, like. I think, like, it's like, it's things that were so much easier for different generations, like buying a house, whatever. Like, nothing feels certain, right? You're sort of like, buy a house so that for what, when the floods come, like, they're on their way. Like, it doesn't. It. It's such this feeling of, like, never feeling, like, secure or like what you do is enough. Like, I think that's something a lot of people feel, and I think we all kind of feel like there was a lot of people were set back by Covid or, like, not able to. Like, it's like you're entering the workforce or you're graduating college in a time when everything is really chaotic. And like, every day I read an article that's like, the industry's never been worse, here's why this is happening, blah, blah, blah. And it's. It just. It's a lot like. And so that was kind of where some of part of the Climbers thing came from. But we felt like. I didn't want to feel like we're judging the characters for, like, being online or caring. The. Caring about the things that they care about. Obviously. Like, we are. I think, like, the Dylan character is a good, like, outside perspective who cares about different things than what our characters care about. We're not saying that the things they care about are the only things that matter. We're just trying to. Like. I just. I just hate when you see a show that's, like, about Gen Z and you see the characters and they're all like, I'm stupid. I love phone. I, like. I'm like, right, we're stressed out. Like, we're depressed. People are, like, medicated because they're. It's like, it's not. It's not, like, really fun to be young. Like, it feels like it's always, like, talking down to or making fun of them kind of. And I'm like, I don't. I'm not trying to make fun of, like, I'm not. Like, there's. It's a comedy, obviously, the characters are funny, hopefully. But, like, I think that, like, there's a difference between that and, like, making a joke of every character. Like, I really tried to make sure each character has, like, a. And I think the actors are amazing. And they do this so well. They bring, like, a depth and a heart to the character. But that's why I think we went away from Climbers is because I didn't want it to feel like before you even got to the show, it sounded like we're making fun of all these. These narcissistic, whatever people.
Host of Therapuss
It's just like we're entering this new age of, like, we're feeling like. You know what I mean? Like, we're. We're recognizing these things that happen that we used to make fun of as real things that affect people.
Rachel Sennett
Yeah. And I think also, like, what I really wanted to do was show the Internet the way that it is for us, which is like, the Internet is such a big part of everyone's life, but at the same time, it doesn't feel clunky or weird. Like, it's just like. Like, I wanted to put into the show the Internet affecting the characters lives, but not in a way where it feels like we're like, phone, like, you know what I mean? Text comes in.
Host of Therapuss
Whoa.
Rachel Sennett
Bit like, you know, like, we're going viral, like, that kind of thing. I didn't want it to feel like that. And Entourage was a big reference for us in that way, because in Entourage, you don't actually see Vince act ever. He's an actor, but you barely ever see him work. He's always kind of, like, just. It's like a part of his life, but it's more about, like, the lifestyle, whatever. And I was like, the Internet has to feel like the industry that they're all a part of.
Host of Therapuss
Right.
Rachel Sennett
Without ever feeling, like, clunky or like we're looking at a phone all the time. And, like, it's just, like, the way that we talk about it, the Internet, and it affects people's lives without it ever feeling, like, over, like.
Host of Therapuss
No, it's very. You know what I mean? It's very well done. You grew up on the Internet. You know how to use it.
Rachel Sennett
And it feels like it's like, yeah, it affects and it is funny, and we can still make fun of it and find humor in it.
Host of Therapuss
Right.
Rachel Sennett
But at the same time, it's like, it is something that is a part of everyone's life. And, like, we can. We can sort of. The reason it's hard to show is because anytime you reference something that already happened on the Internet, it moves so quickly that you date yourself. So it's like we needed to, like, have the right movement of the Internet and the way that stuff happens on there, but fictional.
Host of Therapuss
Well, what was it like working with Josh Hutcherson?
Rachel Sennett
Oh, my God, it was a delight.
Host of Therapuss
I love him.
Rachel Sennett
He is the best. He is just so, so funny. He seems funny, so sweet, so lovely. Like, honestly, I. So I met with him over Zoom, and we, like, read through some of the scenes and talked about them, and I was just, like, like, struck by. He makes you feel so comfortable. And I was like, I think he's gonna feel, like, hopefully to audiences, like your boyfriend, because you're, like, how he feels. I know you. I saw you in Bridge to Terabithia. I saw you in Hunger Games. I know you. You're my boyfriend.
Host of Therapuss
Yes.
Rachel Sennett
Of four years or whatever.
Host of Therapuss
Did you like Hunger Games?
Rachel Sennett
Loved.
Host of Therapuss
Were you Team Peter or Team Gail?
Rachel Sennett
I was Team Peter, of course, sir.
Host of Therapuss
Do you know anyone that was Team Girl?
Rachel Sennett
No, I don't think so. I don't. Wait. I kind of. I'm trying. I wonder. Claire and I were talking about this once because we were like. When I was in my Single Arrow, we were, like, talking about two different guys, and we were like, it's a classic PETA versus Gail situation. And I think maybe Claire was Team Gail, but I can't remember. I don't want to. I don't want to put that. I don't want to put words into her mouth.
Host of Therapuss
You were Team Gail.
Rachel Sennett
Claire, were you Team Gail?
Host of Therapuss
No way. Why?
Rachel Sennett
I remembered that. Also, we have to remember we're looking at PETA versus Gail. With hindsight is 20 20. We know Gail blew up the sister prim.
Host of Therapuss
Yeah.
Rachel Sennett
Like, we're looking at it. We're looking at it, you know?
Host of Therapuss
Right.
Rachel Sennett
But at the time, you know, as the movies are rolling out, Gail is sort of, like, a little more edgy, of course.
Host of Therapuss
But, like, remember when Peeta gave Katniss the bread?
Rachel Sennett
No, that. That's why I was Team Peanut.
Host of Therapuss
Yeah. And got his ass beat for it, too.
Rachel Sennett
Like, were you Team Edward or Team Jacob?
Host of Therapuss
Edward.
Rachel Sennett
Jacob.
Host of Therapuss
What?
Rachel Sennett
Yeah. And see, again, hindsight, 20 20.
Host of Therapuss
Why were you Team Jacob?
Rachel Sennett
Because I loved the thing with the sleeping bag. It made me so horny, and I didn't know.
Host of Therapuss
Why am I not thinking of the.
Rachel Sennett
In the one where basically, like, she's really cold, and she was like, I'm so cold. I'm so cold. And Edward's like, like, already cold. And he's like, don't touch me. Don't touch me. And then she. And then Jacob's like, you're gonna die. Like, you have to get into the sleeping bag and cuddle with me or you're gonna die.
Host of Therapuss
And they were all in the same tent.
Rachel Sennett
Yeah.
Host of Therapuss
And was Edward not mad?
Rachel Sennett
He was furious.
Host of Therapuss
Do you remember?
Rachel Sennett
Why do you think I was so horny?
Host of Therapuss
Do you remember?
Rachel Sennett
So good. It Was like. I was literally. I literally reread that, like, chapter over and over. Like, like, not knowing why. I was like, why do I have to keep reading this?
Host of Therapuss
Do you remember how graphic that birth scene was?
Rachel Sennett
So graphic.
Host of Therapuss
The baby was, like, crying out.
Rachel Sennett
Yeah.
Host of Therapuss
And then it was a CGI baby.
Rachel Sennett
It was crazy. I wanted to be cast as the baby in that.
Host of Therapuss
Wait, what?
Rachel Sennett
I just kind of, like, misunderstood. I was probably, like, 12 or something. I read that book, and I was like, I wouldn't be cast as the baby in this. And then I found the casting director's email, and I reached out.
Host of Therapuss
Oh, so you were like.
Rachel Sennett
Yeah.
Host of Therapuss
Oh, you were about it.
Rachel Sennett
I was about it. I got grounded. The only time I ever got grounded was because I, like, secretly behind my parents back, signed up for, like, breakdown casting website, and I auditioned. Did you ever see that Miley Cyrus movie? Like, lol, Lola?
Host of Therapuss
Of course.
Rachel Sennett
And I auditioned for. There were, like, sides for it on the website. And I filmed an audition of me saying both lines. And the lines were like, two girls, like, in the bathroom being like, I heard you hooked up with him. And. And my parents found the video of me doing this audition on the family computer. And they were like, what the is this? And I was like, I auditioned for a movie. And they were like, this is inappropriate. You're talking about hooking up with someone. You're 12. You didn't tell us about it. You're, like, sending videos of you doing. Talking about hooking up with someone to a random email.
Host of Therapuss
Like, you have these videos.
Rachel Sennett
I don't think so. I feel like they were, like, lost in, like, just when they. When they deleted the Internet. Do you know when they, like, I feel like at a certain point, they deleted the Internet and then they did a new one. Probably, like, when I was, like, 16.
Host of Therapuss
I also feel that way, you know? Yeah, it was when Instagram came.
Rachel Sennett
Yeah, when Instagram came, they deleted the last one and they did a new one.
Host of Therapuss
I completely agree they did that. Do you. Is it. What's your favorite social media app?
Rachel Sennett
It's difficult. It's hard. It depends. I go through phrases. I sometimes miss Twitter.
Host of Therapuss
Well, you started on Twitter. No. Like, that's where you started to get recognition for the first time.
Rachel Sennett
I sometimes I. So often, especially when I'm high, I'm like, I have a little thought. I have a little thought I want to share with everyone really bad, but I'm like, I can't. I just can't.
Host of Therapuss
Why?
Rachel Sennett
Because I. I don't think it's good for me to be over there anymore. Because I'm like, well, I just. I don't even know what it's like anymore because I haven't been on there. But people are like, it's kind of. It's kind of hater vibes over there. But I'm like, I'm a hater sometimes. Like, I have hater thoughts I want to share.
Host of Therapuss
But the hater vibes on Twitter are, like, so intense.
Rachel Sennett
Really intense.
Host of Therapuss
It's like, this person deserves death. And you're like, you, like, said that song like, wasn't your fate, right? Like, it's crazy over there.
Rachel Sennett
I haven't checked it out because I. It's too. Was I'm on there. I get, like, sucked in. But I love, like, I do love, like, sharing a sentence with people, but so I miss it a lot. Instagram, I don't know. In general, I feel like I haven't been. I feel like I haven't been as online recently. Like, I'm trying to think of the most fun I'm having on my phone. This isn't a social media app, but I've been loving doing group facetimes.
Host of Therapuss
Me too. Low key.
Rachel Sennett
I've been loving, like, you're on FaceTime with someone and then someone else FaceTimes you and you're like, let me just loop them in. Yeah, I'll just talk.
Host of Therapuss
That is the best. And they answer.
Rachel Sennett
And they answer. And then you put them all in and like, you just add people to the group chat. Like, it's like, it's it. That. That is not social media. But that's fun I've been having on my phone.
Host of Therapuss
Oh, yeah. I'm. I have my most fun when everybody's active in a group chat. All at once.
Rachel Sennett
Yes. No, I love it. I'm like, let's all talk.
Host of Therapuss
Yes. All at once.
Rachel Sennett
All at once. I also will say on TikTok, I have like, my friends that I send, like, TikToks to. And that's really one. Like when you have like a backlog of. Of and you're like, you knew I'd like this. Like, or. Or like when you both send each other the same one and.
Host of Therapuss
Oh, yeah, that's electric. Yesterday.
Rachel Sennett
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Host of Therapuss
Well, what are you therapist about today?
Rachel Sennett
What am I therapist about today? I am. I'm actually. It's like, if we had been here like one week ago, I would have had so many things. But I'm like, really trying to be un. On therapist today. Let me, let me think, let me think. Well, I think. Can I ask you what your favorite social media is?
Host of Therapuss
Yes, my favorite social media is.
Rachel Sennett
What is it?
Host of Therapuss
Tick tock. Probably tick tock.
Rachel Sennett
It is really fun.
Host of Therapuss
It's addictive.
Rachel Sennett
I will say. The, the thrill of like, of making a tick tock and then watching it back.
Host of Therapuss
Don't even play with me. And watching like the views go up and people comment, like, this is so good. This is so funny.
Rachel Sennett
And you feel. Feel like you're like, I shot a film.
Host of Therapuss
Yes.
Rachel Sennett
Every time I feel like I shot a film, I.
Host of Therapuss
When I get high, sometimes I stalk myself on TikTok and I'm like, I've curated this.
Rachel Sennett
Especially when you get a group together. This is what I really love is when I get a group together, I have a vision, I execute and it's. That is really. That feels really special.
Host of Therapuss
Like, you want to know what I would just like, describe as like a TikTok film? Yeah, that video Charlie posted of her wedding to the Everything.
Rachel Sennett
That's a movie. That's a movie. It's a movie.
Host of Therapuss
I watch that multiple times and I was like, this is like, if I had posted this myself, like, I would rewatch this every day.
Rachel Sennett
I would wear all the time. And you're right.
Host of Therapuss
Oh, yes.
Rachel Sennett
Okay. What am I therapist about? I feel myself like fighting that last little bit of change of the Saturn return. And I can feel myself like gripping so hard and I'm like, release the claw.
Host of Therapuss
And for you that changes. Like letting. Losing control of your narrative and losing.
Rachel Sennett
I need to lose control of my narrative. I need to lose control of. Like, I'm like, there's so many things that I'm like, I want to change. Like, I'm like, I had this whole. During my like, crash out, I was like, why didn't I get laser hair removal three years ago? And I'm still living in the place that I lived with my ex boyfriend. And I. I don't have, like, I only have spoons and I don't have forks and I, I just started like freaking out about like so many things about my life and like, wanting to change everything. And then I was like, shut up. Shut up. Like, and then I was like, I just. I need to appreciate the good things that I have and, and like, know that I can get. I will get laser hair removal gradually and it'll be okay. And I'll get forks and it'll be fine. Like, it's all gonna be fine.
Host of Therapuss
Mine. I love laser hair removal.
Rachel Sennett
I love laser hair removal.
Host of Therapuss
It's like I just started. Really? Yeah. Okay. So like, does it hurt?
Rachel Sennett
Yet it's hurting, but that's good because that's how I know it's working.
Host of Therapuss
That's how sometimes when I first started, it didn't hurt. Like. And then I was like, you. Do you go to Sev.
Rachel Sennett
No, sir.
Host of Therapuss
Come on. You have to go to Setblazer.
Rachel Sennett
But is it on the west side?
Host of Therapuss
No. There's so many locations. Okay. It is the best. They have, like, this the way I just.
Rachel Sennett
I went. Is it on the west side? And then they have locations ago.
Host of Therapuss
Okay. It's so nice.
Rachel Sennett
Yeah.
Host of Therapuss
And like it. Which I like, makes the laser experience enjoyable. Oh, you know, they go, do you feel like a little rubber band?
Rachel Sennett
Yeah.
Host of Therapuss
And you go, yeah. And then they turn up the fan and then it's deep. Beep, beep. Do you. Does yours not have a fan?
Rachel Sennett
No.
Host of Therapuss
So, like, sev. Makes it hurt less because there's a fan.
Rachel Sennett
Oh, is it like one of those little tricks in your brain where you don't know? Yes. Yeah. Okay. Wait, can I say one other thing? I'm therapist about. Where are my friends? They need to come back to la.
Host of Therapuss
Where are they?
Rachel Sennett
They are everywhere. They're in New York, they're in London, they are working. I'm like, girls, come home. Everyone needs to come back to LA and. And hang out for the next month.
Host of Therapuss
I think we have a mutual friend. Morgan, Mayor. Yes.
Rachel Sennett
Love her.
Host of Therapuss
She's.
Rachel Sennett
Love her.
Host of Therapuss
Amazing. I saw her on a flight the other day and I was like, but.
Rachel Sennett
She'S always on a damn flight.
Host of Therapuss
She's always on a flight.
Rachel Sennett
I'm like, girl, stop. She literally wasn't texting me from a flight yesterday. She was like, sorry, I need to text you because I'm on a flight and fingers are moving. But I. I'm like, guys, everyone, come home. Come home.
Host of Therapuss
Well, as hang out with us, LA is about to have, like, a real resurgence. I feel it.
Rachel Sennett
I feel like the fall, the crisp air, and I feel like, for the.
Host of Therapuss
First time in a while, degrees. Well, it is crisp. I was freezing this morning.
Rachel Sennett
I was freezing. I'm shaking.
Host of Therapuss
I feel like, for the first time, Louisiana is like an underdog in a way that it hasn't been in so long. And, like, like, I just feel. I feel it. Like, Louise wanted to move to New York for, like, three years, and then all of a sudden was like, no, LA is. I'm staying.
Rachel Sennett
Is it?
Host of Therapuss
Yeah.
Rachel Sennett
Is it? No. I think we're gonna have a really beautiful social fall.
Host of Therapuss
Me too.
Rachel Sennett
I feel that way. And more. More things. Like, more little social things, you know?
Host of Therapuss
What? I mean, I'm, like, kind of in my dinner party era.
Rachel Sennett
I missed the amazing dinner party. But tell me about the next one.
Host of Therapuss
Yeah, I think there's. I think you should plan another one.
Rachel Sennett
I have to. Yeah. I just. Not at my place, but I should plan one somewhere else.
Host of Therapuss
They're fun.
Rachel Sennett
They're fine.
Host of Therapuss
They're fun. It's like, oh, I don't know you. But now I do.
Rachel Sennett
Now I do.
Host of Therapuss
Right?
Rachel Sennett
I know. And then. And then my favorite part is when everyone sort of, like, moves around. You start with the. Your people you already know, and then you move around, and then you're like, who's this fabulous woman? And then you meet her, and you walk away and you know someone else.
Host of Therapuss
Have you ever been to the Scientology building?
Rachel Sennett
Haven't been inside.
Host of Therapuss
Which is in I love L. A.
Rachel Sennett
Which is in I love L. A.
Host of Therapuss
I want to go.
Rachel Sennett
Don't go.
Host of Therapuss
Why?
Rachel Sennett
Because I just. I just. You know, we've only been talking for, like, an hour, but I feel you're similar to me.
Host of Therapuss
I'll, like, believe it.
Rachel Sennett
It's not that you'll believe it. I just know I have such a hard time saying no to people. Like, do you know what I mean? And if it's like, a. Their whole thing, it's like, I'm like, if all they did was, like, text me once a week, I would have to join. Like, I would be. I would be like, well, it'll be easier to join Scientology than it will be.
Host of Therapuss
Ignore these tax.
Rachel Sennett
Then you ignore these text messages.
Host of Therapuss
Do you. Have you ever seen a documentary about Scientology?
Rachel Sennett
No, I haven't.
Host of Therapuss
Apparently, they're amazing.
Rachel Sennett
There's more than one?
Host of Therapuss
Yeah.
Rachel Sennett
The big one is going.
Host of Therapuss
Going clear. Because when you go clear, that's like, the epitome of Scientology.
Rachel Sennett
Oh, God.
Host of Therapuss
With Leah Remini. I need to see it.
Rachel Sennett
I need to see it, too.
Host of Therapuss
Okay. Do you want to get into the tell me what's wrongs?
Rachel Sennett
Yes.
Host of Therapuss
Sometimes I feel like I'm holding my guest captive. Do you feel like I'm holding you captive?
Rachel Sennett
No, I actually feel like I'm holding you captive. And everyone in this room.
Host of Therapuss
No, you know what? To make you feel better, I feel like I'm holding you captive.
Rachel Sennett
No, I'm having the best time.
Host of Therapuss
Okay, me too.
Rachel Sennett
And I'm having an awesome, awesome, like, day. It's just being. I never come to the west. All of a sudden, I'm like. I'm feeling. I'm like, I might go, like, pumpkin picking today.
Host of Therapuss
Wait, I was talking about going pumpkin picking yesterday.
Rachel Sennett
By the way. It's like. It's like I looked at my phone in the bathroom. All these people emailing me. I'm like, I can't.
Host of Therapuss
You're on the west side.
Rachel Sennett
I'm on the west side. You can't reach me.
Host of Therapuss
You can't reach me.
Rachel Sennett
I'm going pumpkin picking.
Host of Therapuss
You're going clear.
Rachel Sennett
We're literally sorry we're gone.
Host of Therapuss
You can choose to believe me or not. But I'm. What? But I'm low key. Exclusively dating a famous actor. The problem is he's still in this PR relationship with an actress and his management won't let them break up yet. It sounds like he is just in a relationship.
Rachel Sennett
I don't think PR relationships are real. They're not real.
Host of Therapuss
They said he has to wait at least another couple months. What should I do? I love him, but I hate seeing all the pics of him kissing the other. This other girl. Sounds like he's in another relationship.
Rachel Sennett
He's in another relationship. And he's like. He's like, I think I'd love to hook up with you for one more month.
Host of Therapuss
Yeah.
Rachel Sennett
Like, and that. What? No.
Host of Therapuss
I am trying to think of, like, a movie I would prescribe, but I can't think of one. Because pr. I don't believe in PR relationships. I really. Unless they're Scientology based. Like, I believed in the Tom Cruise one.
Rachel Sennett
Yeah. But I don't. I. For the most part, I'm like, I don't. I've yet to really see one. I'm like, no, it's just. There's not that many people today.
Host of Therapuss
Right.
Rachel Sennett
Sorry. That's not that many people today. Everyone's just kind of dating each other. But it's not pr and, like, sometimes.
Host of Therapuss
It just works out where the movie is coming out.
Rachel Sennett
Yes. Yeah. Sometimes it's just timing.
Host of Therapuss
I wonder who it is.
Rachel Sennett
I wonder who it is. I know. That would be a good. That would be. It is a. It is like a good movie idea of, like, a PR relationship.
Host of Therapuss
Right.
Rachel Sennett
Or like, what is that movie where Sandra Bullock and.
Host of Therapuss
Proposal.
Rachel Sennett
The Proposal.
Host of Therapuss
Yeah, the Proposal.
Rachel Sennett
That kind of. It's sort of like the proposal type situation. I want to say, like, date someone else.
Host of Therapuss
Yeah. And also, please, like, message me privately and tell me who this is. I need to know who it is.
Rachel Sennett
Yeah.
Host of Therapuss
And I'll tell you. I'll tell you together. Yeah. Instagram group chat. So one of us will see it. And please tell me who this person is.
Rachel Sennett
But also, I don't want to be like, a hater to the person who submitted this. Question. I'm like, I'm like, whoever this is, anyone, anyone who is ever telling you I can be in a relationship with you, just not now, is a liar. Is a liar. Either someone can be in a relationship with you or they can't.
Host of Therapuss
Right?
Rachel Sennett
Anytime. There's like, I just need to this, I just need to that. I just gotta did it.
Host of Therapuss
No move on.
Rachel Sennett
No move on. The things that people will say of. I just, I can be in a relationship after I, like, get a new fridge. I'm not kidding you. Like, people are saying that is crazy. That isn't true. And if I could be, it's like, for me, if there's someone I could picture myself in a relationship with, I can do it today. Got it, Right.
Host of Therapuss
How old were you when you had your first boyfriend?
Rachel Sennett
I had a boyfriend in high school, but it was like, my high school boyfriend got it. And then towards the end of college, I was in like an on and off relationship where I was like, I was like, I've been dating you for like a year, like, but he didn't want to be my boyfriend and then changed his mind. But then at that point I was over it. So I was it. I would say, I would say, like my high school boyfriend was like my first. I, I, I guess, I guess the relationship at the end of college was my first, like, adult relationship.
Host of Therapuss
Got it.
Rachel Sennett
But it was a disaster.
Host of Therapuss
My bridesmaid wore white every day of my bachelorette weekend. Even got mistaken for the bride and given my special bridal shot at the restaurant. Was she being clueless or trying to steal my spotlight?
Rachel Sennett
I think that feels steal the spotlight.
Host of Therapuss
Yeah, I think so too.
Rachel Sennett
I just want to say, like, I started going to weddings this summer and I'm wearing, like, light pink. And I'm like, is this giving white, right? Is this giving white right? Giving white. Is the dresses blue? I'm like, in certain lights, it's white. Inserting in certain lighting. Because could this be white? And everyone's like, no, but I'm afraid. To me, that feels purposeful and weird.
Host of Therapuss
It's giving like, watch. I prescribe Bridesmaids, which is one of my favorite movies of all time.
Rachel Sennett
Yes. Yeah.
Host of Therapuss
Have you ever been a bridesmaid?
Rachel Sennett
No.
Host of Therapuss
It sounds like a lot of work.
Rachel Sennett
It does. But I really want to do it for, like, my sisters and my best friends or.
Host of Therapuss
Is anyone in your life engaged that you're going to be bridesmaids for?
Rachel Sennett
Not yet, but I think I would be a good bridesmaid.
Host of Therapuss
You would be a great. I think you'd be a good maid of honor.
Rachel Sennett
Oh, I can definitely, like, rally a group chat.
Host of Therapuss
Yeah.
Rachel Sennett
I'm really good at, like, doing something. Like, I can host a party or do a dinner the way someone else would want it. Like, I'm not gonna put the way I would want it onto the thing.
Host of Therapuss
Yes.
Rachel Sennett
Like, I would be like, this is how she likes an event. This is how she likes a party. You know what I mean? That I would love to do for my.
Host of Therapuss
You would be a great maid of honor. That's the whole point of maid of honor, is planning the bachelorette and the bridal shower. And weddings are fun.
Rachel Sennett
Weddings are so fun. Once you go to a wedding that's fabulous, you can't go back. You can't go back. A wedding that's meh. A wedding that's kind of merp.
Host of Therapuss
Yeah, it's just like, my life.
Rachel Sennett
My life, like, especially if I'm like, I'm not really connected. Like, if it's like an extended, like, because like a second cousin type of wedding or something, then you're sort of like, okay, okay, I'm trying to get behind this, but I don't really know any of these people. Like, you know what I mean? You want to be at a wedding where you're like. Like, I cherish the bride and groom, or I'm, like, here with my. My family that I love or my friends that I love. Once you've had a fabulous wedding, then you want everything to be on that level.
Host of Therapuss
You want to know what my dream is? What I want to, like, barely know someone. Maybe we've gone on, like, one or two dates or maybe no, you know, like, one or two dates, and they're like, can you just, like, be my plus one for this wedding? And I spend the whole weekend with them and I'm their plus one for the wedding. It's like rom com vibes.
Rachel Sennett
Like, yes.
Host of Therapuss
So romantic. That is my dream. Like, I want to be a plus one to a wedding for someone that I'm romantically interested in but barely know.
Rachel Sennett
And then you leave the wedding in love.
Host of Therapuss
In love, in love. Oh, my God. That's all I want. And then because, like, you know, like, weddings, like, make people horny. You're like, I want to go have sex.
Rachel Sennett
Oh, my God. I always want to have a kid.
Host of Therapuss
Always. I'm always, always coming me right now.
Rachel Sennett
Something that happens, and I'm like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
Host of Therapuss
Everybody's at weddings.
Rachel Sennett
Everyone is at weddings. I love it. And I love sort of like, like, all leaving the party knowing everyone's and you're all like. It reminds me of, like, college. Like, do you know when you're like, hooking up with someone and they have roommates and then there's other girls hooking up with the roommates and then you guys all see each other, like in kitchen in the morning, and you're like, yay.
Host of Therapuss
I never experienced it, but all my friends did. And like, I got to like, be like. Me too.
Rachel Sennett
Me too. Were you guys just having sex in there? Us too.
Host of Therapuss
Yeah.
Rachel Sennett
That's what a wedding feels like. It feels really college.
Host of Therapuss
I have like so many weddings coming up and I, like, so excited about it.
Rachel Sennett
They're gonna be amazing.
Host of Therapuss
Yeah.
Rachel Sennett
You could also invite someone that you don't know that well, that you're romantically interested into a wedding and they're your plus one and you guys fall in love.
Host of Therapuss
Right.
Rachel Sennett
Just saying.
Host of Therapuss
Should I do that? I want to be asked. Please.
Rachel Sennett
Yeah, but. But I think you can ask someone.
Host of Therapuss
Okay. Okay. I think I have someone in mind. I think I'm gonna do it. Well, like, it. I.
Rachel Sennett
Let's talk about it after. Okay. I want to know.
Host of Therapuss
I'll tell you. I'll tell you about them.
Rachel Sennett
Yes. When is the first wedding?
Host of Therapuss
Summer. So, like.
Rachel Sennett
Okay, so either by then you'll be in a relationship with this person and I won't and you'll sort of. Maybe what you can do is pretend you've just met and sort of like get off on that or it doesn't work out with this person. You find a new person, you invite them.
Host of Therapuss
Yeah. It's my dream, though, and I need it to happen. It's my goal for next year. Okay. That is my New Year's resolution. I'm saying that right now.
Rachel Sennett
That's happening is.
Host of Therapuss
I want that.
Rachel Sennett
That's happening.
Host of Therapuss
Me. I'm halfway through college and I'm still dating my high school sweetheart. If you Talked to me two years ago, I'd have said we were 100. No doubt getting married. Now I'm not so sure. The weird part is he's not perfect, but, like, he's perfectly sweet and kind and caring for me.
Rachel Sennett
No, keep going.
Host of Therapuss
I think I'm just getting bored. I. I just think it'd be insanely awkward to be at the same school and friend group and mid breakup. Please help.
Rachel Sennett
Wait, wait. He's at the same.
Host of Therapuss
Yeah, I think they go.
Rachel Sennett
Yeah, they go to the same college.
Host of Therapuss
Yeah.
Rachel Sennett
Stuff. Breakup. I'm sorry. It's. I am always pro breakup. A breakup is an automatic glow up. A breakup is an automatic, like, Realigning of your values with yourself. You check in with yourself. You get closer with your friends. You talk to your mom more. Do a breakup.
Host of Therapuss
Break up.
Rachel Sennett
Do a breakup. Do it.
Host of Therapuss
You prescribe breakup.
Rachel Sennett
I personally break up. I prescribe. I'm trying to think of like a good movie.
Host of Therapuss
Someone great is good.
Rachel Sennett
That's a great one. That's a great one. But that one's kind of like, what about House Bunny?
Host of Therapuss
House Bunny is the best movie of all time.
Rachel Sennett
All time. It's just funny. They're at college, they break up. They break up. It's just, it's just a good movie. But I think, I think like, you're so young, if you're, if you're having doubts now, right?
Host of Therapuss
It's like, well, you want the same dick forever?
Rachel Sennett
Let him go. Let him go. And. And if it's meant to be, you'll end up back together.
Host of Therapuss
Right? Just like the movie. How to be Single.
Rachel Sennett
Yes. Perfect. Yeah, We've just pitched three. One of those. You're gonna find something from one of those.
Host of Therapuss
At least one. And I think it's probably gonna be House Bunny. Yeah, this guy I was talking to ghosted me. Me and my friend were really upset, so we went on a low key smear campaign towards him online, posting private stories and texting his mutuals just to have one of his friends DM us telling us that he actually just went into a coma. What the fuck could we possibly do to get out of this? I don't know. That's really funny.
Rachel Sennett
That's.
Host of Therapuss
I get it though. Like, I get it. I understand her. I get it.
Rachel Sennett
This is what I'm like. Like we've gone too far. This is like the type of stuff where it's like, I feel like I'm like saying. So I'm. I'm always like the person who's like, trash him, girl. Do that. And then they do it. I'm like, he's in a coma. Love, right? Crazy.
Host of Therapuss
You know what? Like, I used to be the biggest proponent of shit like that. And I've learned over these past two years that like, more empathy is required.
Rachel Sennett
More empathy is required.
Host of Therapuss
Yeah.
Rachel Sennett
You never know what's going on.
Host of Therapuss
Never.
Rachel Sennett
I think just, you know, shoot him.
Host of Therapuss
A text and he'll get it when he wakes up and just be like, I am sorry. I'm so sorry. And maybe like publicly post and be like, I everything. Like, please disregard.
Rachel Sennett
Please disregard. I had a little bit of a crush out. I take it back.
Host of Therapuss
Yes, just take it back.
Rachel Sennett
Just take it back. I think take it back and be like I was being silly, took it too far.
Host of Therapuss
Right. But I will say like, posting private messages is just like.
Rachel Sennett
No.
Host of Therapuss
Satanic.
Rachel Sennett
I don't think. I don't think you need to do it, especially in the context of like, who. I don't know if they were just sort of posting text without saying who it was.
Host of Therapuss
No, it sounds like they were saying who it was because that guy DM them being okay. He's in a coma.
Rachel Sennett
Yeah. Don't. That's bad.
Host of Therapuss
Have you ever met anyone that has been in a coma?
Rachel Sennett
No. Unless someone didn't tell me about their coma. What's that? Coma movie with Rachel McAdams and Channing Tatum.
Host of Therapuss
Before you.
Rachel Sennett
Before you. Before you or after you?
Host of Therapuss
Me, but.
Rachel Sennett
Or me before you.
Host of Therapuss
You mean coma.
Rachel Sennett
That's a good movie.
Host of Therapuss
I found out that my therapist also reps one of my co workers. That is one of the main issues in my conversations with her. I found this out because I'm friends with my co worker's mom and she slipped up. Etc. Etc. It's not important. I feel double crossed and lied to. Why? Your therapist can't tell you. Like, I bet my co worker is talking shit about me too. How do I bring this up to my therapist? Well, you shouldn't feel double crossed and lied to. Legally, a therapist can't tell you that.
Rachel Sennett
No, they can't tell you that. And also they're totally. That means your therapist is doing their job. Right.
Host of Therapuss
Right.
Rachel Sennett
It. The. And the fact that your therapist like, it would be different if your therapist was like saying to you, that was like, I bet your co worker feels this like taking something, but they're not doing it. They're probably handling it as like two totally different situations.
Host of Therapuss
Do you have a good therapist?
Rachel Sennett
I do have a great therapist.
Host of Therapuss
I do. I. I love mine. But I need like ones specifically for my ocd and I keep putting it off.
Rachel Sennett
Yeah.
Host of Therapuss
Because it's in Pasadena. And I just. It's so far.
Rachel Sennett
It's so far.
Host of Therapuss
And like I'm like, you know.
Rachel Sennett
Yeah, it's. It's hard. It's like I get in and out. I always like stop seeing my therapist when I'm filming something because I can't. Like there's just no time. And then when I come back, I almost am like, it's like all the problems come out because they. I'm like bringing up stuff from two months ago and then I'm like, this is why I shouldn't do therapy. Like I'm just getting upset all over again. And then like after like a month, it like evens out 100. But I feel that way sometimes. My therapist like sees other people in the industry and I'll like say like a name and she'll be like, who? And I'll be like, this person should be like, oh, yes, I'm familiar. And I'm like, what do you mean?
Host of Therapuss
Like, do you rep them?
Rachel Sennett
Do you wrap them right? Do you rep them?
Host of Therapuss
As about a therapist, I've never been asked out before. I'm a 24 year old woman and not to toot my own horn, but I'm not bad looking by any means. Men approach me. Yeah. But no one has ever pulled the trigger and asked me on a God honest date. Is there anything I could be doing wrong?
Rachel Sennett
No, I'm like, I'm like, no. I'm like, there's no way you're doing something wrong. I'm like, you a stranger that I don't know. You're perfect. What do you think? I feel like, I don't know, maybe.
Host of Therapuss
You'Re not as confident as you think.
Rachel Sennett
But it sounds like. Wait, wait, she's saying people hit on her but she doesn't get asked out on.
Host of Therapuss
Maybe she like puts off like a. Okay, look, I learned this the hard way. But like flirting is not being rude. And I thought it was like totally like, ew.
Rachel Sennett
Yeah. Sometimes someone comes up to you and you're like, ew, ew, gross barfing in my mouth.
Host of Therapuss
But you don't mean it.
Rachel Sennett
Yeah, you don't mean it. And then you're like, they walk away and you're like, why didn't they ask me to dinner?
Host of Therapuss
Right. So maybe it's the approachable thing, I.
Rachel Sennett
Think when you, when try a different. Just. We don't know what you're doing. To be honest. We can't tell you. We're not in the room with you.
Host of Therapuss
Right. There's a lack of context here.
Rachel Sennett
There's a long lack of context. But. So the next time someone hits on you, do something different than what you've been doing and see how it goes. That doesn't work. Try something else.
Host of Therapuss
I'm the worst flirt in America. Really good at flirting.
Rachel Sennett
I'm good. I'm good.
Host of Therapuss
I know. Yeah, I know you are.
Rachel Sennett
I'm good at flirting. I almost like am sometimes like, like two. I love flirting with like, I love flirting with everyone.
Host of Therapuss
Okay. How do you flirt?
Rachel Sennett
I don't know. It just happens and then I'm like, I'm doing it. I know, but I, maybe I'm not that Good. And I just think I am, but I love. I just love, like. I just love, like, giggling.
Host of Therapuss
I feel like I flirt how Debbie Ryan behaves, and that is, like, my issue, and I really need to figure it out.
Rachel Sennett
Do you flirt? Like, how far is it from what we're doing right now?
Host of Therapuss
No. Like, I've been flirting with you. Like. Like, you know what I mean? Like that. It's like, do you know what I mean? Like, I flirt, like, who, me? And it's like, no, not you. Like, stop. Does that make sense?
Rachel Sennett
Yeah. I can't picture that because that feels like a different vibe than what you're giving me now.
Host of Therapuss
It's horrible.
Rachel Sennett
But to me, I feel like when I'm flirting, I'm just sort of giving me yes directly to one that is the proper flirting.
Host of Therapuss
Just being you.
Rachel Sennett
Because I feel like I'm. I'm like, we're flirting right now.
Host of Therapuss
Yes. We're friendship.
Rachel Sennett
We've been. We're friendship flirting.
Host of Therapuss
Yeah. And it's been going great.
Rachel Sennett
And it's been going awesome. Remember when we both had to pee at the same time?
Host of Therapuss
Dude, that was, like, the best feeling of my life.
Rachel Sennett
When you went out to be. I was like, it's like you're reading my mind.
Host of Therapuss
And I was.
Rachel Sennett
You were.
Host of Therapuss
And we had the best piece.
Rachel Sennett
We had the best piece.
Host of Therapuss
My husband. My husband always complains that he thinks he's balding. He's very embarrassed about it. Would it be bad to get him neutrophil hair growth supplements for Christmas? He's sensitive, so I don't really know what to do here. Yeah, I probably wouldn't get it for him for Christmas.
Rachel Sennett
No, not for Christmas.
Host of Therapuss
Just get them for him.
Rachel Sennett
Get them for him.
Host of Therapuss
And be like, if you want it.
Rachel Sennett
If you want it. It's also like, I think there's a beautiful moment where you can let men into the joy of having insecurities. We, like a straight man. Like, bring him in. Bring him into the fold. It's like. It's like they. They think it's so crazy to be, like, I feel, like, weird about that I'm balding. It's like, let me bring you into, like, 30 years of eating disorders. Like, seeing different magazines, hating my face, telling everyone, telling me my nose was too big, over plucking my eyebrows, trying to grow them back, getting laser hair removal, worried about, like, come join us. Get in here. Get in here. It's okay. It's actually really fun to hate something about yourself. And then, guess what? They invented ways to fix it, because that's how they're making businesses.
Host of Therapuss
Yes. Why aren't straight guys insecure?
Rachel Sennett
It's. It's fun sometimes to have something and then you get over it and then, you know. It's communal, by the way. It's like, I hated. I was made fun of for my nose. All of, like, middle school, high school, then in college, I was like, I'm obsessed with my nose now. I love my nose. I overplug my eyebrows. Now they're back. I love that you have gorgeous eyebrows. Thank you. But it feels so much better than if I never hated my eyebrows.
Host of Therapuss
Right. That's how I feel about, like. Yeah, that's how I feel about, like. Like I'm like. Like waxing my body or something.
Rachel Sennett
Like, you know what I mean?
Host of Therapuss
I'm like, well, I hate my hair up here. I'm just gonna go wax it.
Rachel Sennett
I love your hair up there.
Host of Therapuss
Well, thank you, but I don't. Okay, I'm gonna go wax it.
Rachel Sennett
Perfect.
Host of Therapuss
Yeah.
Rachel Sennett
And now you have a thing to do.
Host of Therapuss
Exactly. It's an activity.
Rachel Sennett
It's an activity.
Host of Therapuss
Join us.
Rachel Sennett
Yes, Join us.
Host of Therapuss
I crashed the car I was taking my driving test in. It was totally my fault, and I don't have insurance. Apparently, I don't owe much, but it's gonn before I get my license. Also, somehow that information got to my school. I'm so embarrassed. Help me cope. You crash a lot, don't you?
Rachel Sennett
Yeah, I'm not a good driver.
Host of Therapuss
Okay, well, that's because you're from the. Well, actually, no, you're from Connecticut.
Rachel Sennett
But I drove there. But it was. It's not a freeway situation. I. I feel like. Just own it. Become like a girl who's a bad driver. Make other people pick you up always.
Host of Therapuss
I don't drive at all. My license.
Rachel Sennett
Diva behavior.
Host of Therapuss
Exactly. I Uber everywhere.
Rachel Sennett
It's like. It's like, by the way, people love to feel needed. You go, can I ever. Can I have a r ride? Make. You're going on a first date. Pick me up.
Host of Therapuss
Right. Oh, my God. That is the best.
Rachel Sennett
Pick me up. I don't know how to drive. Oh, sorry. Can you just. Got a job. Can you drive to work? No, I don't have my license.
Host of Therapuss
Right.
Rachel Sennett
Send a car.
Host of Therapuss
Oh, love that energy.
Rachel Sennett
Because once you know how to drive, it's all about. Once they know that you have a license, they're gonna make you drive the car, even if you're mad.
Host of Therapuss
Well, you came in here with a parking ticket.
Rachel Sennett
Literally. Parking ticket. Parking ticket. I'm getting. I just found out that My car was all broken. I got in a car accident on Valentine's Day this year. It was. It's disaster.
Host of Therapuss
It's more like I don't have it together. And that's okay.
Rachel Sennett
And that's okay. That's okay.
Host of Therapuss
Well, Rachel, what did we learn today?
Rachel Sennett
We learned. I think we learned that we're, like, really connected.
Host of Therapuss
I also feel that way.
Rachel Sennett
I feel. I feel we have. I feel. I actually think when you get to your Saturn return, I'm gonna text you, call me, because I can see. I just. I. I could. I can actually look at your chart and see what your lesson is gonna be, but there's no way to know how it will manifest.
Host of Therapuss
Will you text me your astrologist number?
Rachel Sennett
Yes.
Host of Therapuss
I need one.
Rachel Sennett
Do you want a psychic or an astrologer?
Host of Therapuss
Psychics or both scare me.
Rachel Sennett
Okay?
Host of Therapuss
They scare me because it's like, I don't want to know.
Rachel Sennett
Okay.
Host of Therapuss
You like that?
Rachel Sennett
That I like. I like. I. I have three psychics I've been to that I like and two astrologers.
Host of Therapuss
And do you. Are they accurate?
Rachel Sennett
They always say one thing that's true, and you're like, is somewhere in two hours of them talking to you, they'll say, one thing that's true, and you won't know till three years later, like, what.
Host of Therapuss
What is one thing that a psychic said to you once that you. That came true? True.
Rachel Sennett
I went to a psychic, like, years ago who told me that I needed to write more and that I would have my own show.
Host of Therapuss
And you do.
Rachel Sennett
And then. But of course, it's like, I'm in the industry. You could say. They probably also said other stuff. I had a psychic tell me. I had a psychic come to the office during the pilot and give everyone readings. And she gave everybody these readings that were like, you are the future. You are this. Like, you're about to come into a lot of money. You're about to really fight yourself. I sat down. She looks at me, she goes, your boyfriend isn't your soulmate. All right? I'm out of time. And I. I went at the end because I wanted everyone else to go see her first. I sat down. She was literally like, he's not your soulmate. I was like, I didn't even say anything. She goes, he's not your soulmate. Okay, I gotta go. I have to go to, like, the Valley. I was like, what the hell is going on? And then we broke up.
Host of Therapuss
Well, I guess I learned that maybe I can trust a psychic.
Rachel Sennett
I think you can. I think. I think, like, what they do is they say things. Same as with astrology. It's like they say stuff whether it's true or not. You hear it and does it resonate with you or not? Do you know what I mean? If she, by the way, if we were soul mates and she said to me, you're not soul mates, in my head, I would go, please.
Host of Therapuss
Right?
Rachel Sennett
You know what I mean?
Host of Therapuss
But because you questioned it, you were like, she's right.
Rachel Sennett
I was like, I'm questioning it. This is shedding light on my relationship, 100%.
Host of Therapuss
Well, this has been one of the most fun times I've ever had.
Rachel Sennett
Me too.
Host of Therapuss
Really?
Rachel Sennett
Yes. It's electric. I feel so. I'm. I'm telling you now. I'm gonna go get sushi and maybe pumpkin pick.
Host of Therapuss
Well, do you want to give a little. Bye.
Rachel Sennett
Bye. Thank you for having me.
Host of Therapuss
I love you.
Rachel Sennett
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Session 102: Rachel Sennott
October 23, 2025
Guest: Rachel Sennott—Actress, writer, creator of HBO’s “I Love LA”
This episode of Therapuss features Jake Shane in conversation with the multifaceted Rachel Sennott. The discussion is a vibrant and rapidly paced exploration of creativity, anxiety, the journey to self-acceptance, and the realities of making art and navigating life in your 20s and 30s. Rachel opens up about her new HBO comedy series “I Love LA,” the emotional pressure of releasing such a personal project, and plenty of candid, comedic insights about dating, social media, and therapy. The episode’s signature segment, “Tell Me What’s Wrong,” sees Rachel and Jake giving their unfiltered takes on listener-submitted dilemmas.
[01:39 – 04:10]
[03:13 – 06:10]
[06:10 – 09:18]
[09:44 – 13:22]
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[21:04 – 24:33]
[24:33 – 27:18]
[27:18 – 56:25]
Memorable Quote:
[37:22 – 45:01]
[61:22 – 65:06]
On LA vs. NYC Mentality:
“You can use your East Coast mentality on the West Coast and fly. The East Coast already exacerbates my anxiety.” — Rachel [02:31]
On Talking Shit:
“Talking shit is part of community building. It’s totally important. Something I learned in LA: talking shit isn’t that serious.” — Rachel [04:08]
On Releasing Her Show:
“I pushed everything down because I didn’t have time to feel —and then, at home, I just crashed.” — Rachel [08:33]
On Open Mics:
“The first time you do standup everyone supports you—then you suck for three years.” — Rachel [15:40]
On Gen Z Entertainment:
"I'm not trying to make fun of Gen Z for being online. We're all climbing; it never feels enough, nothing feels certain." — Rachel [51:28]
On Saturn Return:
“Everything that I thought I’d already learned came back—quicker, faster, lightning round.” — Rachel [39:16]
[71:03 – 89:00]
Standout Dilemmas:
[84:42 – 86:58]
[90:34 – End]
This was a high-energy, wildly honest, often hilarious episode that captures the freewheeling, self-aware angst and brilliance of millennial and Gen Z creatives. Rachel and Jake’s chemistry kept the conversation moving, always circling back to the twin themes of vulnerability and embracing the messy, unpredictable process of growing into yourself—and sharing it all online.