Podcast Summary: "Christmas and Commerce"
This American Life | December 24, 2025
Hosted by Ira Glass
Featuring stories by David Sedaris & David Rakoff
Overview
This classic holiday episode from This American Life explores the intersection of Christmas and commerce—how the rituals, expectations, and high-stakes art project of the American Christmas play out in toy stores, department store Santas, family living rooms, and even in department store window displays. Through a blend of old and new, personal and observational stories, the episode addresses the intense pressure to create the “perfect” Christmas, and the inevitable ways plans go awry, revealing not just how we shop, but who we are.
Key Discussion Points and Insights
1. Christmas as a High-Stakes, Mass Art Project
- Host Ira Glass sets the tone, noting the universal nature of Christmas rituals and expectations in the U.S.:
“It’s like hundreds of millions of people all set to work doing exactly the same art project. Not just any art project, but a very high stakes art project. An art project everybody cares about getting right.” (00:38)
2. Act I: Christmas Eve at the Toy Store (Toys R Us)
- Parents’ desperation and anxiety to fulfill Christmas wishes dramatized in the frantic search for the “twin dolls.”
- Notable Exchange:
- Mark Nemus & son Ricky braving the closing minutes of a packed store:
- “I never thought I’d be doing this. At 7:30 on Christmas Eve.” (04:08, Mark Nemus)
- “I’ve seen it in movies. I swear to God, I never thought I’d be doing this, but here I am.” (04:14, Mark Nemus)
- Ira reflects:
“Christmas is the time when everybody is who they normally are, but more so.” (04:26)
- Mark Nemus & son Ricky braving the closing minutes of a packed store:
3. Act II: Santaland Diaries (David Sedaris)
- The centerpiece of the episode, Sedaris' now-classic sardonic account of working as an elf (Crumpet) in Macy’s Santaland.
- Elf Training & Costume:
- On the absurdity of elf interviews:
“I am a 33 year old man applying for a job as an elf... Even worse is a very real possibility that I will not be hired, that I couldn’t even find work as an elf. That’s when you know you’re a failure.” (07:51)
- On “motivational cheers” in elf training:
“A concept which stuns me to the core.” (07:51)
- On the absurdity of elf interviews:
- Behind the Scenes of Macy’s Christmas Machine:
- Many different elf roles (“oh my God elf,” “magic window elf,” “cash register elf”).
- None of the Santas are “authentic”—it’s all a carefully composed stage set.
- Memorable Customer Interactions:
- On dealing with impossible parents:
“I said that Santa changed his policy and no longer traffics in coal. Instead if you're bad, he comes to your house and steals things.” (16:10)
- On dealing with impossible parents:
- Culture Clash & Sociological Observations:
- On the “traditional Santa” controversy and coded requests for Santas of specific races. (29:11)
- Cutting humor about bitterness among “real world” professionals forced into elf costumes amid recession.
- Strangest Requests, Heartbreaking Moments, and Mall Madness:
- A child asks Santa to bring back his dead father and Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles. (34:39)
- Proposal in Santa’s house, competitive parents, children’s acting/modeling ambitions, and utter exhaustion of forced happiness.
- Reflection on the Manufactured Ideal:
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“It’s not about the child or Santa or Christmas or anything, but the parent’s idea of a world they cannot make work for them.” (39:36)
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- Humor & Signature Tone:
- On a magic window gag:
“Step on the magic star and you can see Cher. And people got excited.” (16:38)
- On a magic window gag:
- Memorable Performance:
- Sedaris’ Billie Holiday–inspired rendition of “Away in a Manger.” (37:41)
4. Act III: Christmas Freud (David Rakoff)
- Barney’s Department Store’s Contrarian Display:
- Rather than traditional Christmas windows, Barney’s features 20th-century luminaries—Sigmund Freud among them.
- Rakoff as “Christmas Freud” in a Department Store Window:
- “I am the ghost of Christmas Subconscious. I am the anti Santa. I am Christmas Freud. People tell me what they wish for. I tell them the ways their wishes are unhealthy or wished for in error.” (41:05)
- Performance Anxiety and Social Commentary:
- Ponders the meaning of consumerist holiday rituals through the lens of psychoanalysis and performance art.
- Irony of people more intrigued by whether he’s a mannequin or a person than by Freud’s philosophical underpinnings.
- Meta-Reflections:
- Rakoff’s therapeutic sessions with friends on display, the cozy “fishbowl” of the window.
- Sensation of being both on display and deeply connected, both mocking the tradition and unexpectedly moved by it:
“I started off as a monkey on display and have wound up uncomfortably caught between joking and deadly serious.” (55:00)
- Expresses melancholy about ending the performance:
“For now, I want nothing more than to continue to sit in my chair, someone on the couch, and to ask them with real concern. So tell me, how's everything?” (55:35)
- Endearing Skits & Songs:
- “Christmas Freud, Christmas Freud, it’s Christmas fright in the window…” (55:58-56:53, Rakoff & Sedaris)
5. Final Segment: A Real Family Christmas, 1966 (John Connors’ Home Tapes)
- Home recordings of a three-year-old John Connors and his family, showcasing the recurring gap between the “perfect Christmas” expectation and the chaotic messiness of real Christmas.
- Ira’s Observations:
“Everybody has this picture in their heads of the perfect Christmas. And of course it’s never going to be perfect. It’s never going to live up to that picture. And so disappointment is built into the very structure of the day.” (59:02)
- Suggests that the holiday’s true story is found in these moments of wobbling between disappointment and joy.
Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments
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On the Pressure of Christmas:
“Christmas is the time when everybody is who they normally are, but more so.” (Ira Glass, 04:26)
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On the Absurdity of Elfdom:
“I am a 33 year old man applying for a job as an elf… Even worse is a very real possibility that I will not be hired, that I couldn’t even find work as an elf. That’s when you know you’re a failure.” (David Sedaris, 07:51)
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On Parenting Under Pressure:
“I never thought I’d be doing this... At 7:30 on Christmas Eve.” (Mark Nemus, 04:08)
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On Presenting The Perfect Family:
“It’s not about the child or Santa or Christmas or anything, but the parents idea of a world they cannot make work for them.” (David Sedaris, 39:36)
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On Window-Display Psychoanalysis:
“If psychoanalysis was late 19th century secular Judaism’s way of finding spiritual meaning in a post-religious world, and retail is the late 20th century’s way of finding spiritual meaning in a post-religious world, what does it mean that I’m impersonating the father of psychoanalysis in a store window to commemorate a religious holiday?” (David Rakoff, 41:50)
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On Christmas Disappointment:
“The best you can hope for on Christmas… is to ride the imperfections, hope they don’t overtake everybody...” (Ira Glass, 59:02)
Timestamps for Important Segments
- 00:01 — Opening framing by Ira Glass: Christmas as an American ritual.
- 01:53 — Act I: Christmas Eve at Toys R Us, last-minute shopping adventure.
- 06:41 — Act II: David Sedaris begins Santaland Diaries, recounts becoming “Crumpet” the elf.
- 16:10 — Sedaris’ sharpest interactions with customers (telling a child: “Santa… no longer traffics in coal. Instead… steals things.”)
- 29:11 — On coded requests for Santas of specific races, reflections on Macy’s Santaland as cultural stage.
- 41:05 — Act III: David Rakoff as “Christmas Freud” in the Barney’s window display.
- 55:35 — Rakoff’s bittersweet farewell as Christmas Freud.
- 57:45 — Final Act: Archival tapes of the Connors family Christmas, 1966.
- 59:02 — Ira Glass on the impossibility of a perfect Christmas.
- 59:57 — Three year-old John’s relentless train running—an audio metaphor for Christmas chaos.
Tone & Style
- Warm, wry, often poignant storytelling
- Moments of both winking humor (Sedaris’ dry wit; Rakoff’s winking meta-commentary) and emotional resonance (tender family moments, unvarnished chaos of real holidays)
- A blend of cultural critique, nostalgia, and affectionate observation
Closing Thoughts
“Christmas and Commerce” stands as a sharp yet affectionate examination of why Christmas matters so much in America: not because we ever quite get it right, but because in the trying, in the mismatched expectations and inevitable chaos, we reveal who we are—frenzied, hopeful, silly, and striving, “just doing the same art project,” all together.
For further reading/listening:
- David Sedaris’ Santaland Diaries in Barrel Fever and Holidays on Ice
- David Rakoff’s Fraud
- This American Life archives (WBEZ Chicago)
