Ferrari Builds Modern F40! Porsche 18 Cylinder Coming? Car Dating Red Flags? THIS CAR POD! EP83

Summary

THIS CAR POD! with Doug DeMuro & Friends!

Episode 83: Ferrari Builds Modern F40! Porsche 18 Cylinder Coming? Car Dating Red Flags?

Date: October 24, 2025
Hosts: Nick (filling in for Doug DeMuro), Kenneth, Filippo

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Episode Overview

This week’s episode dives deep into recent, eye-catching automotive news, from Ferrari's divisive “SC40” modern F40 homage, to Porsche filing a patent for an 18-cylinder turbo engine, and Toyota’s frustrating decision not to bring the new FJ Cruiser to the US. The crew also debates car-market trends and red flags in automotive dating, with audience Q&A rounding out the lively, banter-heavy episode.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Ferrari “SC40” – A Modern F40 Homage?

[01:25–05:19]

• Ferrari’s New One-Off: Based on the 296, the new SC40 is crafted for a very special client as a tribute to the F40, though opinions are mixed and the design is controversial among enthusiasts.
• Design Critiques:
  • Kenneth: “Does this remind you of an F40? In absolutely no way does this look like an F40. But they have said that this car...is an F40 reimagined.” [01:42]
  • Nick: “...the rear quarter of it definitely looks F40. The wing, you definitely see it. But it isn't like the Countach where it is just a blatant ripoff.” [03:02]
• Specs & Choices:
  • Questions raised about why the car is based on the “middle-level” 296 instead of the higher-end SF90.
  • Novelty interior: Kevlar used instead of carbon, with a gold tint.
• Collectibility:
  • Only one will be made; destined for a private collection.
  • All agree: it should be red, as all true F40s are.

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2. Porsche’s Big Moves: New CEO and W18 Patent

Porsche’s CEO Shuffle
[07:14–11:19]

• New CEO Michael Leiters (ex-Ferrari/Ferrari’s 296 and SF90) will likely push for hybrids over full electrification.
• Nick: “The CEO is not designing the car...his goal is to be the visionary.” [09:20]
• Concerns about Porsche’s sales in China and ability to fund enthusiast models amidst corporate growth.

18-Cylinder Engine Patent
[16:51–19:27]

• Porsche’s jaw-dropping patent for a W18 tri-turbo engine, with each “bank” turbocharged.
• Kenneth: “If they make a W18 engine...that is insane.” [18:55]
• Discussion around whether this is just a paper project or a sign of true intent for future hypercars.

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3. Elon Musk & Tesla's Compensation Drama

[11:31–14:57]

• Elon Musk’s extreme pay package, the Delaware Supreme Court lawsuit, and hints at quitting if terms aren’t approved.
• Filippo: “Is he helping the brand? Is the brand advancing? Is that market cap correct? Short answer: no.” [13:21]
• The panel is skeptical about the headlines and Musk’s actual value to Tesla in the past year.
• Reference to Roadster delays as a symbolic “fool me once, shame on—can’t get fooled again” moment.

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4. Toyota’s FJ Cruiser: Off-Road for Everyone Except Americans

[19:29–22:29]

• Toyota unveils a new FJ Cruiser—Hilux-based, part of the Land Cruiser family—but not for sale in the US or Europe.
• Hosts are baffled, given America’s appetite for rugged SUVs.
• Kenneth: “All they have to do is look at the Jeep. The Jeep is the only product keeping Stellantis alive...” [20:28]

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5. China’s Rare Earths & Global Car Production

[22:37–26:33]

• China’s clampdown on rare earth exports could cripple EV and even ICE car manufacturing globally.
• Comparison to the Covid chip shortage, with hosts warning of potential industry-wide disruption.
• Filippo: “This would be that, but much, much more impactful to actually important parts of the car.” [24:43]

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6. Waymo’s Robotaxi Safety in Question

[26:33–28:48]

• Investigation into Waymo after an incident involving a school bus and passenger safety concerns.
• Nick: “I do not trust a tech company to drive a vehicle without someone overseeing it...not safety oriented enough.” [28:18]
• Debate over increased autonomy, ethics, and potential inevitability despite misgivings.

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7. Talk Cars: “What’s New With You?”

Nick’s Murcielago Auction
[30:55–36:30]

• Nick’s manual-converted Murciélago is about to end auction at $251k with strong interest and community engagement.
• Reflections on emotional readiness to sell and the ups and downs of exotic ownership.

Aston Martin Virage Review
[36:45–41:02]

• Filippo raves about the overlooked Virage after spending quality time in one.
  • “I went in with very low, medium to very low expectations and it blew them away…” [37:44]
• The full review video is available on Cars & Bids’ YouTube.

Kenneth’s F1 Bachelor Party
[43:48–46:08]

• Kenneth is heading to the Mexican Grand Prix for a friend’s bachelor party, highlighting racing as a great group activity.

Radwood & Car Event Etiquette
[51:07–54:45]

• Nick discusses prepping for Radwood with the Fiat Multipla.
• Hosts comment on the recent shutdown of big US car events due to unruly behavior (“takeover crowd”).
  • Nick: “Please...Stop ruining the events if there are a ton of people there. All you're doing is risking the fun for everyone.” [52:56]
• Public road safety and canyons: strong PSA to be responsible and avoid putting others at risk.

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8. Market Report: Winning Cars & Trends

Volvo V70R Manual in Flash Green
[56:02–58:14]

• Flash Green/Atacama manual V70R achieves a record high result, underlining the value of right-spec enthusiast Volvos.

Dodge Viper ACR Market
[58:47–61:03]

• GTS Viper at $85,500 noted as a deal, while ACR extremes are now $300k+ cars, with Striker Purple bringing top dollar.
• Kenneth: “Largest displacement engine put in the car since the Second World War.” [61:16]

Audi RS4 Avant in Canada
[62:48–66:15]

• Sprint Blue B7 RS4 Avant for Canadian sale prompts longing and discussions of import loopholes—and why North America needs more “unmolested” rare Euro wagons.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “In absolutely no way does this look like an F40.” — Kenneth, [01:42]
• “The Murciélago was such a good car...I am thrilled though—cars and bids was so easy to work with.” — Nick, [34:34]
• “If they make a W18 engine...that is insane.” — Kenneth, [18:55]
• “I do not trust a tech company to drive a vehicle without someone overseeing it...” — Nick, [28:18]
• “If you have an M3 CRT, that's a green flag.” — Kenneth, [72:59] (on car dating red flags)
• “Stop ruining the events if there are a ton of people there. All you’re doing is risking the fun for everyone.” — Nick, [52:56]
• “Largest displacement engine put in the car since the Second World War.” — Kenneth, [61:16]

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Audience Q&A Highlights

Rank Your Top 5 Fast & Furious Cars

[67:32–70:00]

• Supra, R34 Skyline, Jetta, Fiero, and Torque Tuareg discussed.
• “The franchise has gotten exponentially worse each episode…sales have gotten exponentially higher.” — Nick, [69:04]

Automotive Dating Red Flags

[71:29–76:57]

• Modified M4s, wrapped cars, “Carolina squat” trucks, and serial poor financial car decisions are major red flags.
• “If their car is so high-maintenance it’s a G wagon, that would scare me.” — Nick, [73:47]

Getaway Cars and Automakers Poised for Enthusiast Revival

[77:02–83:08]

• Tesla Model 3 or nondescript hatchbacks ideal for discretion after a heist.
• Mitsubishi, Buick, and Cadillac as brands best positioned to relaunch enthusiast models.

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Timestamps for Reference

• Ferrari SC40: [01:25–05:19]
• Porsche CEO & W18 Engine: [07:14–11:19, 16:51–19:27]
• Tesla Compensation: [11:31–14:57]
• Toyota FJ Cruiser: [19:29–22:29]
• Rare Earths Crisis: [22:37–26:33]
• Waymo Safety: [26:33–28:48]
• Talk Cars: [30:55–41:02]
• Bachelor Party/F1: [43:48–46:08]
• Radwood & Car Events: [51:07–54:45]
• Market Report: [56:02–66:15]
• Q&A: [67:05–83:08]

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Tone & Style

The episode is fast-paced, irreverent, insightful, and loaded with car enthusiast banter in an unfiltered, friendly, sometimes sarcastic way—true to DeMuro & Friends’ signature energy.

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Takeaway

A classic episode blending serious analysis with playful squad energy, from billion-dollar pay disputes to the sacredness of red Ferraris. If you want to know what’s buzzing in the car world (and get a sense of car market red flags—for both investments and dating!), THIS CAR POD! episode 83 is a must-listen.

Transcript

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[Filippo]

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[Nick]

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[Kenneth]

I'm Kenneth.

[Filippo]

I'm Filippo.

[Nick]

And I'm Crazy Neck filling in for Doug, who's out on administrative leave after his comments towards roof not being a real manufacturer.

[Filippo]

Tragic.

[Nick]

Sad.

[Kenneth]

True.

[Nick]

In all reality, he's enjoying some much deserved time off from the pod and from the office. So with that all out of the way, let's get to the news. Let's do it.

[Kenneth]

And we start with Ferrari. This car broke the Internet this week. This is the Ferrari SC40. It's a one off car. It's being made for a very special client. It's based on the 296. And the whole thing about it is that it's supposed to hearken back to the F40. Now, a lot of people are very upset about this.

[Filippo]

So many qu.

[Kenneth]

Exactly. Now, you look at this car. Fleeting. You think, gee, aren't all F40s red? You would be correct. Anything. Don't all F40s have a twin turbo V8? And you would be correct. And you look at this and it's like, does this remind you of an F40? In absolutely no way does this look like an F40. But they have said that this car, specifically it is an F40. Reimagined. It's an homage to F40. It's not an F40. Out and out. It's not supposed to be like a direct Successor to the F40. It's just a one off car made for a very rich client.

[Filippo]

I have a big question. Okay, so we made a lot of fun on Lamborghini when they came out with the the Countach. Which is based, at the very least on an Aventador. Why is this not based on Ferrari's current top of the lineup?

[Kenneth]

That's a great question.

[Filippo]

The 296 is their not entry level, I guess, but.

[Kenneth]

No, it's this. It's.

[Filippo]

The V8 exists.

[Kenneth]

Exactly.

[Filippo]

It's a V6.

[Kenneth]

Yes. But it follows the V8 line. It's supposed to be in that lineage, which has always been kind of their entry level. Now it's more their middle level car. It's not the high end car the F40 was, which was the King Halo.

[Filippo]

They have other cars. They still have the SF90, I think. Why is this not based on SF98?

[Nick]

I don't know.

[Kenneth]

It would be nice. They could have sold one more. Could have written that down as the same.

[Filippo]

That is partially my thought process.

[Nick]

Yeah. They could just rebody some unsold units. I'm sitting in Doug's literal chair and so I hate to harken his opinion here, but one, as Doug would remind you, anytime a new design comes out, people automatically hate it.

[Kenneth]

Absolutely.

[Nick]

It's time to normalize it. Two, it's actually pretty cool. It does. I know you agree it doesn't look like the F40. I don't love this like weird headlight connecting to bumper line there. But the rear quarter of it definitely looks F40. The wing, you definitely see it. But it isn't like the Countach where it is just a blatant ripoff of it. Like, they involved the styling a little bit.

[Kenneth]

See, actually the designer said they wanted to make it a more squared off look, which they definitely achieved. But I think this is a perfect example of why Ferrari doesn't put wings on cars. I think it's very badly executed. I think it looks very awkward and it doesn't look right. And the 296 is a beautiful flowing base design.

[Nick]

Yeah.

[Kenneth]

So. And they're still. I mean, that rear haunch is still the 296. And so for them to then like add, it just looks odd. And the other thing is, you say we're going to see this car. We're never going to see this car. There's only. We're only going to make one. This is going to sit in a collection. Rich guy's going to bring his friends over. Look at this.

[Nick]

We're going to ski it at car week every year, doing donuts around the quail.

[Filippo]

I mean, we can hope.

[Kenneth]

One can hope.

[Nick]

I like it. I agree with you. It should be red. That is my main critique. Of it. It doesn't look good in white. I put it in a chat GPT and redid it as red and I'm.

[Kenneth]

Like a thousand times better. I do agree with that. And again, if you're paying homage to the F40, all of them, despite what people. Some people say they are wrong. All of them left the factory in red, period. Like that is. The factory has said that. That. Hence that's the truth in this case.

[Nick]

And the factory never lies.

[Kenneth]

Well, the fact, especially Ferrari in that era, well, they wanted to make as m. Well, yeah, but that era, don't forget they said they're going to make 400, made 1300 sued them. They're all red. But this car, I don't know. I. I do think the coolest thing about which we don't have a picture is the. And I don't think there are any pictures of the interior has used Kevlar instead of carbon as like. And Kev. It's got like a goldish look to it. I think that that'll actually be pretty cool. And I do think it's kind of a cool car. When you get to the point where you can order one off Ferraris from.

[Filippo]

The company, you're doing well.

[Kenneth]

Yeah, I mean, that's pretty real. Like that's what you dream of being able to do. But nonetheless, of course, exactly to your.

[Nick]

Point, who do you think the buyer is here? It's not like the salt and the Brunei. I doubt, I doubt it's Eric Clapton, who's known for it. It's not James Clickenhaus. So like, who is that billionaire that's commissioning the F40 revivals?

[Filippo]

It's a great choice.

[Nick]

Bad.

[Filippo]

Making bad decisions along the way.

[Nick]

Commissioner David Lee, Councilman David L. And.

[Filippo]

Making poor all the way. I have a question for you both. Derail those. All right. On Ferrari's website for 2025, I'm excluding the special series and the Icon models.

[Kenneth]

Okay.

[Filippo]

What cars does Ferrari sell in 2025?

[Kenneth]

Okay, so the GT Subtilandry.

[Filippo]

Yeah, that's there.

[Kenneth]

The 296 GTB and then the GTS.

[Filippo]

Yep. The.

[Kenneth]

Parasangwe. The Amalfi.

[Filippo]

Well done.

[Kenneth]

The. They said it's like the.

[Filippo]

Wow.

[Nick]

Really?

[Kenneth]

What's the. It's the X, the XX. Are you counting that?

[Filippo]

No, no, no. The. The 296 Pachala and the SF90XX are both in their special series.

[Kenneth]

You said I'm missing three.

[Filippo]

Incredibly missing three.

[Nick]

The car's already named. It's just like this is the Aperta.

[Filippo]

I'm not including. You're actually missing four. I'm not including the Spider version one.

[Nick]

Okay.

[Kenneth]

Wolf is the entry level car, then. Then the T96 Pure song was a separate one. I can't remember because there's no.

[Filippo]

The SF90 is gone.

[Nick]

Remember when it was just like, there's a Gallardo and a Murcia logo.

[Filippo]

Yeah, I remember when Ferra famously made the Gallardo in the Mercio.

[Kenneth]

I should know this and I'm gonna.

[Filippo]

Kick myself for the answer. The Ferrari Roma Spider.

[Kenneth]

Wait, they still make the Roma in addition to the Amalfi?

[Filippo]

Just the Spider, apparently.

[Kenneth]

Aren't they phasing out? Oh, because they don't make.

[Nick]

I can't.

[Kenneth]

Only for now, I guess I can't explain.

[Filippo]

That's why the A49 Testarossa is on their website, as is the Spider. And then the Electrica is on their website as a model, despite the fact that it just shows a chassis, which.

[Kenneth]

Is as much a car as it is.

[Filippo]

But that is what their website says their 2025 lineup is. Right, of course. So they.

[Kenneth]

Of course, 2025 lineup. The Electrica won't come out till 2026 or 27, if it comes out at all.

[Filippo]

So why not make this based on the Testarossa, which looks similar already?

[Kenneth]

The tester was said. Does look very similar. I forgot about that.

[Filippo]

Doesn't matter.

[Nick]

Ferrari's like Hollywood, bringing back reboots and homages. Next story.

[Kenneth]

Well, yes. Moving on to the next story. Porsche, the CEO. So this must be Felipe.

[Filippo]

Correct. We talked about Porsche a couple weeks ago because there was talks of them. Their prior CEO, Oliver Bloom, was also the CEO of the Volkswagen Group. And there was a lot of concern that he wasn't able to focus on Porsche at a time when they are struggling somehow. They have a new CEO. His name is Michael Leiters. He was at Porsche from like 2000 to 2013. He started out as like the CEO's assistant in, like, 2003. He was responsible for the Cayenne hybrid. So that's exciting.

[Nick]

Wow.

[Filippo]

And then he went to McLaren from 2015 to 2017, something like that. And now he's back at Porsche. Wow. He's apparently very pro hybrids in general, which is interesting for Porsche at a time when they are struggling with how to electrify their lineup. He was at Ferrari for a little bit. He helped develop the SF90 and the 296.

[Kenneth]

Right. Great track record already.

[Filippo]

And now he's the CEO of Porsche. It's an interesting choice because none of those products are Products that like or like eras of the company that are that successful. Now, Ferrari, of course, is incredibly successful.

[Kenneth]

I have to clarify, the 296 is an incredibly successful car.

[Filippo]

The SF90. Lesser.

[Kenneth]

The SF90, lesser.

[Filippo]

Like McLaren in those years, was doing well by McLaren standards. Yeah, right.

[Kenneth]

Which is just above failure.

[Nick]

Great brand.

[Filippo]

Correct. Which isn't like. It's an interesting choice. He was at McLaren 2025-20. Sorry, 2022-2025. He helped develop the 750s, which is obviously a car you can identify as a 750s.

[Kenneth]

So what do we extrapolate? Right, so we extrapolate that Porsche is going to do. It's going to be more of a hybrid year for Porsche, which kind of. With the difficulties they've had going into full electrification, the hybrid does seem like the big, you know, we'll bridge the gap. But I'm curious what, like, ideas he's going to bring to the brand? I don't know.

[Filippo]

Who do you hire? If you're Porsche, you're doing this executive search, who is like, a true. Like a tried and true professional who loves sports cars that has credit in the sportscare field? There's nobody. No other sportscare company except for Ferrari has had any success. Right.

[Kenneth]

And AP doesn't really want to. And Andreas Springer doesn't want to go into that role. He wants to stick with the GT cars, which. Who can blame him?

[Nick]

It sounds like he knows how the company operates, he knows the people, and so he might just be able to remove blockers as they become a bigger, more corpor entity. And then, I mean, the CEO is not designing the car. So I'm sure they have veto power to say, like, yeah, the SF90 stinks, but at the same time, like, it's. That's not really. His goal is to be the visionary.

[Kenneth]

I think in Italy, if you say that, I think it's punishable by death. You criticize a Ferrari?

[Filippo]

Well, I find it to be an interesting hire because. So he was at Ferrari 2014 and 2019 as their chief technology officer. How would you describe Ferrari's technology in that era? Tough, right?

[Kenneth]

Yeah. Take away the buttons. Is this the button guy?

[Filippo]

Did he rip? He may be the button guy. It's a little. It's a. It's a tough hire for Porsche. Hard to find the right person. They have faith in him, presumably. It feels like an odd hire. Like, when I saw the resume, it didn't quite make sense. Like, this is the person that's going to bring Porsche to the next level, but Also at his offense. McLaren is a hard place to work and have a ton of success. Ferrari, I think, is a hard place to work and like, have impact and have a ton of success. Yes, obviously, Ferrari are incredibly successful as a whole.

[Nick]

Do they need to go to the next level, though? I always think of a wartime CEO and a peacetime CEO. Porsche's at the next level.

[Filippo]

I mean, they're in wartime by.

[Nick]

Their stock may go up and down.

[Filippo]

And sales for China are down massively.

[Nick]

Their products are top notch. Every enthusiast is like, salivating to the point where it's become annoying and a meme, basically. True.

[Kenneth]

But they're larger products that they make, that they need to make money on in order to fund those projects. Realistically, that seems to be where they're suffering the most. And that's what, that's my fear is that it really impacts their ability to make the GT4Rs and the stuff that you and I.

[Filippo]

Although, to be fair, the Cayenne hybrid, successful vehicle, good vehicle. There you go.

[Kenneth]

Exactly. It's kind of a. For those of you who are listening to Auto, we all just kind of shrugged at the same time.

[Filippo]

No, obviously he's an enthusiast car company CEO. Hopefully he'll bring good things to Porsche.

[Kenneth]

Yeah, I wish him nothing but the best. And like you said, it's a, it's a great brand that's headed in a great.

[Nick]

I hear there's another automotive CEO that's threatening to quit if their pay package doesn't get approved. So maybe.

[Filippo]

What a good transition.

[Nick]

He's just a temporary holdover until a better talent becomes a nice, smoother transition.

[Kenneth]

Three stories ahead, but we'll jump there. Go ahead.

[Nick]

You know, that's how, that's how your brain works when you have disorders, sleep apnea. So Elon Musk, exed, Twittered, whatever, what have you. There's, there's debate over his pay and the headlines are actually incredibly misleading because it says, oh, Elon wants a trillion dollar pay package that's mostly in stock, in equity, and like, that is based on future growth. And it's not like someone's giving him literally a trillion dollars. However, he wants to retain all the voting control. There's a couple other stipulations, but he's having disputes with the shareholders and other people on how much he should be paid, how much, how the payment mechanisms work. And he basically alluded to on Twitter that, hey, if I doesn't get approved, that's someone else's problem, then I won't be CEO anymore. I'm Out.

[Filippo]

Elon has been in a bunch of different fights about his pay. There's currently a lawsuit at Delaware Supreme Court of Memory Service about a pay package that was approved years ago that was something like a much smaller amount, 50 million, 500 million something in that range, large range, that was for meeting specific targets. He would have gotten a ton of stock and cash. The argument by some shareholders is that that was not actually like the correct fiduciary thing for the board to do and therefore they were set the rights or didn't follow that large debate. He hasn't received that money yet. Tesla's in a weird position where they are the most valuable car company by far. Their market cap is many, many times any other car company's market cap. Stands to reason that his compensation should be quite extreme. Trillion dollars is an extreme number. Competition maybe should be extreme. But there's also a question of is he helping the brand? Is the brand advancing in any real way? Is that stock value? Is that share value? Correct. Is that market cap? Correct. No, short answer.

[Kenneth]

And you could, the last calendar year you could make a serious argument that he was more of a detriment to Tesla than totally.

[Filippo]

And so there's a bit of a question there. So a bunch of shareholder groups have advised their members to don't vote for this pay package. It also includes a bunch of lock ins that make it harder for the board to have flexibility in the future. He needs to fight for that. And Tesla, understandably, as a company, is going to fight for him to get the pay package and the approval from the board that they're looking for.

[Nick]

It's hard to take any tweet too seriously. Right? Like that's a bargaining tactic that you need to have at your disposal. Their earnings also came out yesterday. I believe they had a really good quarter, although the analysts basically say, yeah, of course you did. It was the end of subsidies. We'll see how that plays out for you. But interesting times in Tesla. I hate that they're always a news story, but like, because they are valued at like more than the other automakers practically combined, it's hard not to talk about Tesla, their business and sort of their market dominance.

[Filippo]

Should we also talk about how to pronounce it or.

[Nick]

Nah, no, it's with a Z. Nick.

[Kenneth]

Also can't say the word Vegas. Like say Las Vegas words.

[Nick]

Vegas.

[Kenneth]

Yeah, he says Vegas.

[Filippo]

Fascinating. Vegas.

[Kenneth]

Nick struggles with simple tasks, but that.

[Filippo]

Is Elon Musk's current fight. So he currently has a fight about his pay against his board. Well, actually the Board is aligned with him against the state of Delaware, sort of. And now maybe another like.

[Nick]

And here he is pictured with the new Roadster, which.

[Filippo]

The roadster, by the way, there was a news item this week that they will show the Roadster again this year.

[Kenneth]

Yep, Christmas is coming and so is Fool Me once.

[Nick]

Shame on. Shame on fool me. Yeah, whatever it is, can't get fooled again.

[Kenneth]

Yeah, exactly. But that's Tesla.

[Sean]

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[Kenneth]

So going back a couple of stories. So something new altogether new, unrelated, completely. Porsche has. And back on the Porsche talk. Porsche has filed an application for a patent for a W18 engine. So that's three six cylinder engines mated together at the crank. But not only that, it's also a tri turbo, not a BI turbo like a Mercedes tri turbo. So each one also has a turbocharger. Now I will say that every time there's like automatic. Auto manufacturers file patents all the time. It's not unusual that they do this. They just want to get ahead on things. But this would be cool. And Porsche actually followed up saying like explaining a little bit of their logic of why they're doing this. The plenum system is really interesting about how the air is spit out to all six cylinders. So like they put some thought into this for some application potentially. It seems now whether or not it ever comes into fruition, we don't really know. But this is a lot of hope. And if they make, if they make a W, if make a W18 engine.

[Filippo]

You know, 911, famously six cylinders, we would not accept a V8 flat six. Yeah, six cylinders is what I said. We would not accept a V8. We would not accept the V12.

[Kenneth]

Except the Cayenne.

[Filippo]

No, no. From a 911. But this is a multiple effect.

[Kenneth]

Well, it could, yeah.

[Filippo]

It's just three of the engines.

[Kenneth]

Oh, you're saying it follows in the line.

[Filippo]

It could fit, you know, it could fit.

[Nick]

Conceptually, this would break the Internet on the level that Veyron did.

[Kenneth]

You know, I was thinking about this the other day. I went back and watched the Top Gear like the Veyron race when Jeremy drove it against the plane and raced from Italy to London.

[Nick]

Sure.

[Kenneth]

And he said at the end that it was a hollow victory because he will never experience that kind of power again. And at the very end he said like, no manufacturer will ever make a car like this again. And then of course they continue to iterate on the Veyron. Then we got the Chiron and now a lot of cars have well over a thousand horsepower. So like, I don't know, there is hope for this. And I think if you're to mate Rimac's point, like if you're the type of client who wants the ultimate and you want, if you're going to pay millions of dollars for a car. And you want something insane. That is insane.

[Filippo]

Cool.

[Kenneth]

Yeah, that's a. That is.

[Nick]

A serious new CEO is going to put this in the. The Cayenne hybrid.

[Filippo]

You know what?

[Kenneth]

Maybe he's responsible for this.

[Nick]

Wow.

[Kenneth]

Maybe that's what it is.

[Nick]

The hybrid is actually the hybrid of the turbos. The three V6s made it together.

[Filippo]

What a fascinating patent. Like, what are you. What would you. Why just why power? Why not?

[Kenneth]

Why not? Maybe that's the question. He's challenging his engineers. He drew a line.

[Filippo]

Why not sended the 911 lineup to have a W18. A dove W18.

[Kenneth]

Exactly. Moving on to our next news story.

[Filippo]

Toyota does not have W18.

[Kenneth]

Damn. I'm surprised.

[Filippo]

I know. So this is the new FJ Cruiser.

[Nick]

Yeah.

[Filippo]

We've all said that every manufacturer needs more off road ready SUVs. And Toyota has come through and made a new FJ Cruiser. It will not be sold in the. Yeah, it says Land Cruiser. It would be part of the Land Cruiser family. It's based on the Hilux. Right. It will not be sold in the US and therefore not worth talking that much more about. It won't be sold in the US or Europe.

[Nick]

It's going to have Geminis and these sorts of. Just cruising around and we're not. We're going to be 20 miles away yet. So far.

[Kenneth]

Yep, exactly.

[Filippo]

So close.

[Kenneth]

It looks so cool.

[Nick]

It seems. It's funny. Toyota seems like it's becoming a truck company. Like they've got a fire lineup of trucks. They're coming out with more bangers. The Land Cruiser has actually grown on me a little bit. Even though I was one of the like naysayers initially. This would do very well. I wonder why they think Americans don't like rugged off road SUVs. That makes literally no sense.

[Filippo]

No, I'm not surprised.

[Kenneth]

All they have to do is look at the Jeep. The Jeep is the only company keep or the only main product.

[Nick]

Yeah.

[Kenneth]

Keeping Stellantis alive, basically. Like. And we want it. Americans want Jeeps. They want. I mean, so just bring it.

[Nick]

Maybe they looked at the Renegade and they said, oh, maybe it doesn't sell.

[Filippo]

Huh?

[Nick]

Okay.

[Kenneth]

Yeah, exactly.

[Filippo]

Keep in mind that everybody had to buy a new one every three years because it broke down, it died.

[Nick]

Made in Toledo, Ohio, thank you very much.

[Kenneth]

Right.

[Nick]

That's exactly 419.

[Filippo]

It's a little surprising that they're not. I mean it's based on a platform that's not sold in the US And I imagine there'll be a bunch of development costs. To make it compliant with US regulations But also it's feels like that's the.

[Kenneth]

Cost of doing business. Like if you're going to sell a car you want to be successful or.

[Nick]

Not like and we previously discussed on the pod the EPA is no longer enforcing some of the like fuel economy standards and like they still this is this is a good time to slide in another inefficient fuel vehicle or make.

[Filippo]

It have something else really. This is based on the Hilux platform. Make something off of the why am I blanking the name of the There's a platform that every single one of Toyota's crossovers are the RAV4 platform. No the one that's all the other ones the Land Cruiser and the 4Runner and the Tacoma et cetera are based on like make a shorter version somehow and it's a shame that they seem.

[Kenneth]

To be refusing to It's a shame because man is that cool.

[Filippo]

TNGA the new generation something you got there.

[Nick]

It is pretty I rented the old version in Sedona once and took it off roading. It was it was like a very fun cool vehicle.

[Filippo]

My in laws have a first gen one now and it's not a vehicle that I care about but it's cool.

[Nick]

You sold some of the what was the final editions that look like really good with the TRD wheels. Yeah they like they're they're still got a cult following 20 years ago.

[Filippo]

They're worth money. A low mile I'm looking at that's called too is worth real money that.

[Nick]

Blue fjord but yeah I can't remember what the but yeah it's ultimate.

[Filippo]

The trail team's ultimate.

[Nick]

It's so weird that you would do a throwback Land Cruiser and then not do a throwback one of this right on its I agree it's heels everybody.

[Filippo]

Assumes coming to the US shame that it's not.

[Kenneth]

Well hopefully Toyota listens to us. Listen to the Toyota Goat, Toyota B which are right up there.

[Nick]

Yes.

[Kenneth]

They want it to come to the United States. Exactly. Thank you for those who've been listening for a long time. All right next news story. Moving on from something that looks like it's driving around in rare earth materials we'll talk about actual rare earth materials.

[Nick]

All right.

[Filippo]

Are you familiar with China?

[Nick]

Yes.

[Kenneth]

Heard of it Once or twice.

[Nick]

You've heard of it Once in Asia.

[Filippo]

They China. The vast majority of rare earths that are mined are in China. 70% of global rare earth mining happened in China. Rare earth mining connected to cars in a bunch of ways. It's obviously important for electric cars and batteries, but it's also important for a lot of things you might not expect. Side mirrors, speakers, oil pumps, windshield wipers. They all use some kind of magnet rare earth stuff. The US Is currently fighting with China about tariffs, and China is retaliating in a bunch of ways, including their own tariffs and also including a lot of export controls where they're not letting specific goods leave their country or very least leave their country and come to the U.S. rare earth is one of those things that China has already clamped down on and has threatened to lock down more, which would pretty much put a halt to certainly EV production, but generally car production in a really, really meaningful way in the US and so that is the story. It is something to watch, certainly, because that is a huge bargaining chip that the Chinese government has, especially because they do control exports and imports in a way that few other countries do, and it could legitimately shut down production of things outside of their country. Every automaker right now is working as quickly as they can to lock down sources of the rare earth metals that they need from China, from other countries to try to, like, have enough.

[Nick]

It's a good thing we learned our lesson from the chip shortage during COVID Sure did. We don't have any supply demand issues.

[Filippo]

Nope. Sure did. It's the same situation, just even more impactful. Right. Those chips led to certainly diminished production throughout Covid of cars. Also led to some weird decontenting. GM famously removed heated seats from all their cars.

[Nick]

Oh, yeah.

[Filippo]

Because they couldn't get the chips for that. This would be that. But much, much more impactful to actually important parts of the car.

[Nick]

This is the perfect storm for Jaguar, who has a year's supply of cars ready to go. We're just gonna get new cars on the road. That brings some diversity.

[Kenneth]

They're all gonna be jags from two years ago.

[Nick]

W18s with three turbos that need a lot of chips for this.

[Filippo]

You're gonna start seeing a lot of cars, like, with their door mirrors removed and mounted on other cars, like, strip off the metals.

[Kenneth]

That's the European dream. If that were optional option cost, you wouldn't check that box.

[Filippo]

As a kid, our car did not have a passenger door mirror.

[Kenneth]

That's crazy. It's like the 70s.

[Nick]

It's the perfect spot.

[Filippo]

This is the 2000s. The car was a 1998.

[Kenneth]

I know, but it's like the 70s.

[Nick]

It was optional cars and beds stands to benefit from this. So we applaud. Right.

[Filippo]

We have a bunch of rare in this office.

[Kenneth]

That's. I mean, sure. But I mean, this is just what happens when you start a trade war. There's a lot of. There are a lot of different levers that both sides can pole. Boy, I hope this gets.

[Nick]

Speaking of rare earth, dangerous one, I was at a fundraiser for the local fire department over the weekend.

[Filippo]

Sure.

[Nick]

They had an E39 that was on, like, work wheels that they used to catch on fire as training exercises. Titanium, silver. And I'm like, I wonder if there's any parts. Like their door handles look pretty nice. I'm like, I wonder if I could pull one off for you. But Rancho Santa Fe Fire station number two has an E39 that they use for training a lot of rare earth minerals.

[Filippo]

Those light on fire by themselves, which is perfect for sure.

[Kenneth]

They do not.

[Filippo]

Not.

[Kenneth]

They're not firehearts. Well, if you're. Yeah. If you have any 39M5 PSA, make sure to replace your brake lines. Those are the. The ones by the ABS module. Those can rupture the. Right by the headers and that causes a fire.

[Nick]

You like. You like cars that catch on fire? Easy. The 355. The E39.

[Kenneth]

The 355 was particularly known for it. But the E39, it's. Yeah, it's. It is an unfortunate thing I've had that done. So I am not. Not worried about firing.

[Filippo]

This car will not light on fire.

[Kenneth]

Yes. My car is well maintained. Moving on to the next news story. Wow.

[Nick]

Waymo, my favorite driverless cars. Not actually.

[Filippo]

Have you been in one?

[Nick]

Staunchly, no.

[Filippo]

You should try it.

[Nick]

Refuse on ethical grounds to get in one because.

[Filippo]

Can you remind me of the ethical grounds?

[Nick]

Because it takes away jobs. Like being a driver in the gig economy is like one of the backstops for unemployment. And like to have these like, Google tech execs, like, making all this money by, like, taking people's jobs. I don't like that in general. It's also in an I pace, which, like, you'd have to pay me to get into anyways.

[Kenneth]

But Jaguar sold cars. This saved jobs for Jaguar.

[Nick]

Oh, please.

[Kenneth]

It's the only cars they sold.

[Nick]

They're planes idling. However, the most important reason why I won't do it is exactly this new story. They're being looked into because at a school crossing, a school bus had its stoplight out and kids were getting out, and the thing almost like plowed over a group of children. Like, basically they're being investigated to see if they're actually as safe as they claim. Because there's so many fringe cases of like a duck crossing the road.

[Filippo]

Like, well, the duck can die, I'm sorry to say.

[Nick]

Well, the.

[Kenneth]

But it has to calculate what's. What lives are worth more than others. That's something that you have to figure out.

[Nick]

Like that It's a classic train problem in ethics, right?

[Filippo]

Yeah, that's right.

[Kenneth]

That's exactly right.

[Filippo]

I'm glad they're being investigated. I'm glad that the NHTSA is taking these cases seriously.

[Nick]

Yes.

[Filippo]

Obviously the counter argument for people that are very pro autonomous vehicles is human drivers also run over children in school zones. Tragically, very sadly. If you're a driver, please be careful legitimately, like obey school zones. I'm glad they're being investigated though, because they need to. Like there are certain things that they need to be incredibly good at for any of us to feel comfortable with those cars on the road. And if they're not, then they can't be on the road is my stance.

[Nick]

Tech companies, like when Google's AI solution came out and it was like, how do you make your pizza gooier? And it says, oh, put glue in it. Because it pulled it from Reddit without any thought. Like, I do not trust a tech company to drive a vehicle without someone overseeing it. They're too profit motivated and not safety oriented enough. So at the very least it's good there's lawsuits to hold them somewhat accountable. But I don't trust the US government to enforce this in a way that's going to be a viable solution.

[Kenneth]

But I still suspect this is coming whether you want it to or not.

[Nick]

I want W18s with three turbos and I want to final. Final, Final edition, unfortunately.

[Kenneth]

And the last 150,000th Pagani Zonda edition.

[Nick]

If we run out of rare earth metals, you can keep your eye paces. We are good.

[Filippo]

Okay.

[Nick]

We'll take SC 40s.

[Filippo]

Hard to argue that. Yeah.

[Kenneth]

Okay. And that is the end of the news.

[Filippo]

Thank God for that.

[Nick]

Yeah.

[Kenneth]

Now we come to talk cars, which is brought to us this week, but. Well, you're not wearing your. I can't. You're not wearing a giraffe shirt. So.

[Filippo]

I'm not wearing a draft shirt.

[Kenneth]

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[Filippo]

I think they're green at all times.

[Kenneth]

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[Filippo]

Those are really dirty. I should clean them.

[Kenneth]

They are.

[Filippo]

Hey, Kenan. Will you clean my glasses for me?

[Kenneth]

I will halfway clean your glasses.

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[Kenneth]

Nick, you have some news? Yeah, start us off.

[Nick]

Well, the big thing, no one still knows what car I'm going to get next. There's no car around. I've been really subtle, so keep guessing. Someone will get it eventually. You know, it's hard to tell what it could be, but the big story for me is actually that the Murcielago, it ends on Thursday. We're filming this on Wednesday. So I actually don't know how it's going to end, but by the time this launches on Friday, the auction will be over. As we are speaking, it's at $251,000. It's a pretty good number and I'm hopeful that there's a little action at the end. I expect more action because, you know, a car I may or may not have purchased behind me is coming in soon. Potentially. It's. I'm gonna pretty much let it loose regardless, so I'm excited. It's been really fun. I think it's gotten something like a couple Hundred comments. Yeah.

[Filippo]

155 comments, 50,000 views. 1800 people watching, which is really strong.

[Nick]

I've had a lot of people like DM me and chat up me, so it's been really fun just to hear everyone's reactions. A lot of people super into the Murcia Lago. The feedback is still iffy on if the SLR was the right choice, but I'm having fun.

[Filippo]

Don't help people.

[Nick]

Well, yeah, I mean the hypothetical unnamed car made by maybe Mercedes or maybe McLaren.

[Filippo]

We don't know.

[Nick]

They don't know either.

[Kenneth]

Well, I think I speak for us all. I am definitely going to miss that. Your mercy, it was wild to have one in our lives gives and you're very generous in letting us all drive.

[Filippo]

It and driven it. But that's on me actually.

[Kenneth]

Yeah, you drove it briefly on and off a truck.

[Filippo]

I parked it on a transporter and then unpacked.

[Nick]

Yes. That was the only first gear in E gear.

[Filippo]

Only time I've been in it was going up a ramp.

[Nick]

Yeah.

[Filippo]

In a tight confined spot.

[Nick]

Just the worst kind of career gt, you know, that's. That's it. All the Internet nut swingers typically only drive it about that far, then come up with a conclusion of, oh, the E gear is terrible.

[Filippo]

The eager was fine.

[Nick]

Eager it was. Except for in first gear, going in and out of it was fine.

[Kenneth]

But I am genuinely going to miss the car. Like, I'm glad that you had the experience and you shared it with us all and opened my eyes to how wonderful those cars are and I can't.

[Nick]

Wait to figure out what I replace it with. But when, when we do find that out, I have a feeling that that car will be pretty fun too. So yeah, you'll have to stay tuned next week to figure out what that could be.

[Filippo]

Yeah, that. Are you sad that your mercy is going to be gone?

[Nick]

Yeah.

[Kenneth]

What are your feelings? What are your family's feelings?

[Filippo]

They.

[Nick]

Everyone's surprised, like including like my mom and my dad. They're like, I can't believe you're finally getting rid of it. My mom wanted me to sell it like the first day I got it cuz she's like, oh, it's too much money in a car. I mean, but it's an icon. I, I think I could always go back if I needed to. The. The only lingering fear is like they're, they're on the upswing. So financially it's like, okay, Maybe it would have made sense to hold onto it longer but. But I'm ready for a new experience. It's fine.

[Kenneth]

You know, I think whenever someone is done with a car, whether it's going to be worth more in five years, it's just not worth it to you to hold it that long. So when you're done with it emotionally, you've done everything you want to do with it. It is fun. Time to move it on now. That said, to my point, I'm not done with my car, although I am looking very much for the second car out of the stable and I will buy one soon. But I think that you just reached the end of the journey with that particular car and like you said to your point, you could go back to it again if you wanted to.

[Nick]

Well, as Hagerty points out to me, every time I add a new car to the policy and I'm up to six cars on the policy, they go. We looked at Google Earth and you have a two car garage and our requirement is that they're parked inside. And so every time that conversation gets a little trickier. But they're as you can see in this back area.

[Kenneth]

Yeah, we'll help.

[Filippo]

They're in a garage.

[Kenneth]

Yeah, we'll support this insanity.

[Nick]

But the Murcielaga was such a good car like fairly uneventful other than a starter motor. I am thrilled though not to toot your guys horn because I don't work here but cars and bids was so easy to work with. Your, your video producer shot all the pictures and people have been like geeking out over how great pictures cool. The the pictures are with the aircraft carrier in the back. The comments have been really good. And 251 with 24 hours to go. It's a good number. I would say if this car were eager and not converted this is well over what it would be worth. Worth as an automatic. Like maybe a dealer might list a car like this for 250 but they're taking 220.

[Filippo]

Clearly there there's a reward to the manual swap.

[Kenneth]

Yeah.

[Filippo]

The question will become how much reward and we can't. When people are watching this they will know the answer to that.

[Nick]

I worry there's going to be some speculators that come after this and start buying to convert and flip which some people have argued I did. That was never my intention. But yeah, I think it's, it's like a very exciting time for Murcielago owners and it is funny the two owners groups I'm in everyone's like watching this like a hawk to know did they make the right choice? Should they convert? Should they not? Machina, who did the conversion. I spoke with him yesterday and he's like, yeah, a lot of people are watching this and wanting to know how it turns out. Including them because I originally talked to them about buying my car when I was trying to get Ed's Diablo and we came to a number that, that they probably could have converted and flipped it and made some money. So now he's going to figure out if he has remorse, not buying it. Basically.

[Filippo]

Yeah, I bet he does. And I, I suspect the last day will be a very interesting.

[Nick]

He has, he has some remorse. Other than all the videos and fun adventures we've had as a team have been good for their business.

[Filippo]

So it's an incredible car. It's a beautiful car. Get a manual now. We'll miss it in our group of friends.

[Kenneth]

Yeah, but you're not Nick Mercy anymore. You'll be Nick some other car.

[Nick]

Yeah.

[Filippo]

Unknown car.

[Nick]

Yes. Nick.

[Filippo]

Hey, move to right a little bit. Just so. That's just so you can. They, they can't see what car.

[Kenneth]

Right.

[Nick]

So, so, so I think it's an SL55.

[Filippo]

Yeah, probably. Probably. Can I talk about a car that I drove recently?

[Kenneth]

Absolutely.

[Filippo]

All right. I drove an Asarten Virage all around Atlanta. I, we, we were at. As we talked about last week, we were at Infos Petit La Mall a couple weeks ago and I got there early so I could film a video with this black Virage and then I drove it around after video I drove around because we wanted it at our event at River Road Atlanta. So I ended up putting a fair number of miles on this car. Spirited driving around the lake where we were filming a bunch of like highway transit time, a bunch of other back roads. It's such a good car. It's so good. I did not expect it to be a good car like truly. I went in with very low medium to very low expectations and it blew them away. And I think even if I'd had high expectations it would have blown them away. I'm surprised by how much I was into this car. By the way, there's a full review on the cars and bids YouTube channel and probably linked below if our producer did. So please go watch it because I think it's a good video and there's also a little James Bond esque car chase in it.

[Nick]

The video turned out amazing. It's so fun to watch you experience cars like this. Cuz it's like, not initially your jam, but you get so into it that.

[Filippo]

Like, it surprises me.

[Nick]

It's fun seeing the car win you over in a way like that.

[Filippo]

I really did. I did not think that I would leave wanting an asar.

[Nick]

We also all walked away being like, yeah, that is actually a Filippo car. Like, I can't explain why, but it is absolutely a Filippo car.

[Filippo]

Go.

[Kenneth]

It's like, it's. How do I put this?

[Filippo]

It's brown. Black, which is my other car album is.

[Kenneth]

Yeah, you do. Not just the color. Like, it is like a. I don't know, it's. You wanted a Ferrari, but you held back.

[Filippo]

I've never. There's never been a single Ferrari that I wanted.

[Kenneth]

Exactly. But if you did, which. Because you wouldn't buy this either. But if you.

[Nick]

Falling short car.

[Kenneth]

This is the falling short car a little bit. But I think, genuinely, I think that the Vira is a fantastic car. That engine is.

[Filippo]

The engine is. It's really the ending engine is the point. But then it handles better than you'd expect and it drives generally better than you'd expect.

[Kenneth]

The chassis is incredibly stiff and, like, by design. I'm not saying the ride is. It's a very capable car. And the verages are really overlooked because they're only produced for a single model year. Not that many people bought them. And it became the next version of the DB9, in essence. But they are really great. I got to ride around with you in it a little bit. And it's just that.

[Filippo]

Better than you think.

[Kenneth]

So nice.

[Filippo]

Can I tell one story about the video? So there's a little James Bond esque scene in the video because our producer, Sean, there were three cars. I'm going to go give a very behind the scenes story here.

[Kenneth]

All right.

[Filippo]

I'm going to give a very behind the scenes little glimpse into shooting a car. In this video. We were filming around lake roads. We had this car. Our camera guy who works on our team standing had his E34 535i.

[Nick]

Yep.

[Filippo]

And then we had a Honda Civic rental car. That was a great car. Honda Civic hatchback. Sean was. Sean, our producer, was behind us in the Civic. He was like, you know, I think that I can get a great shot of the two cars kind of chasing each other through some back roads. It'll feel very James Bond esque. Mount a camera to the front of the Civic. You guys drive down this road, have some fun, and I'll film it. There's a single shot that was usable from when Sean was filming Sean decided to, for the entirety of that drive, stay three corners behind for untold reasons. And our editor, Stanley, did a phenomenal job of making it look like. We used it, I think, to. To. To appease Sean. But it's a really beautiful video regardless.

[Nick]

It really is a beautiful video.

[Kenneth]

What a great place to drive that car. You know, it reminds me very much of, like, the. The Vanquish s. Our. The vanquish S1. The press picture that were taken in, like, a woods, but driving beautiful, sweeping roads, like that's what you want to do in an Aston. Like, that's what it's for, and I'm glad you got to experience that. Does this make you want to experience other.

[Sean]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Filippo]

It legitimately kind of does.

[Nick]

Wow.

[Kenneth]

Really?

[Nick]

Really?

[Filippo]

Also the part of film that's got through the same road, like through the gray road, many times, and it just got better and better and better.

[Kenneth]

Wow. Well, good.

[Filippo]

I'm surprisingly into the Assassin. I'll make stunned by it.

[Kenneth]

Get one.

[Nick]

I'll make you a pact. If you get one, I'll get a rapid and I'll wrap it the same color, and you and I can go around.

[Filippo]

You'll wrap your. Yes, Rapid.

[Kenneth]

Wrap your.

[Nick]

Well, I assume the Rapid didn't come in such tasteful colors, but if it did, it would be.

[Filippo]

You should consider rapid. You got two kids.

[Nick]

One right now.

[Filippo]

Stradman has one right now.

[Kenneth]

Are you just gonna buy cars from YouTubers? Is that gonn?

[Nick]

I think, you know, it's 28. The Mercy technically came from cultivated collector who's a YouTuber. Sure. There was one other car that came from a YouTuber that I can't remember. Oh, I wanted to buy Ed Bullion's sv. So, yeah, I kind of do. Like, I might just slip into Stradman's DMs.

[Filippo]

Just so you know, 122 million people have YouTube accounts, so I think there's a good chance. Buy it from youtuber28.250 for is the lowest I think we've sold.

[Kenneth]

No.

[Nick]

Yeah, the repeats are a.

[Filippo]

Buy, buy, go buy that. Get rid of your kind.

[Nick]

I mean, Stradman just showed, like, a random dealer in Idaho and paid, like, 35 for it.

[Kenneth]

And they were thrilled.

[Nick]

Yeah, they were thrilled to get rid of.

[Filippo]

Go buy that. This is.

[Nick]

They're. They're perfect for a dealership to have for, like, two months as a magnet.

[Filippo]

To get people in.

[Nick]

And then they realize no one actually wants to buy it. It just test drives and, like, random cold calls.

[Filippo]

This is what.

[Kenneth]

Yeah, small Dealers in the Midwest buy this when they see it at, like, one of the auctions at Manheim. And then. Then they have it on their. Their lot. And I was like, man. And the owner of the deal drives it. And then, yes, it's probably.

[Filippo]

It's a gorgeous car experience. I'd want one.

[Nick]

It's the official, like, car of, like, a politician needs hush money. And then that's who they. That's what they give to keep the person quiet for whatever they give. A repeat. Yeah, they don't give a repeater mirage like a. A used one that looks like it's all the money, but really it was only like 35k of campaign contributions. Like, that's. That's the ultimate hush money.

[Filippo]

I would love for a commenter to explain to me what I put. Nick is saying I. I like. I need to get somebody else mentioned.

[Kenneth]

Politicians and hush money. Is there something you want to.

[Nick]

I'm reading a book right now by Carl Heisen in which he gives his extramarital affair a Aston Martin as a way of keeping her cool.

[Filippo]

It all makes sense.

[Nick]

So maybe that's where that's coming from.

[Kenneth]

Dbs. That's what I want. It's beautiful.

[Filippo]

Also, you can get a DBs and a DB9 with a manual for brief periods of time. And that's interesting. Although the automatic didn't feel antithetical to the 12 experience.

[Kenneth]

Canon statement. I've never driven an automatic DBS, only the manual ones driven two. And I actually was surprised. The clutch buy point is very high and it's very vague and it's like, it's not actually that nice to use, but. Do you want to shift your own gears or not?

[Nick]

What's the price?

[Kenneth]

I want to shift my own gears. Huge difference. So, yeah, I don't know, but, yeah, I would love an Aston Martin for you. But you just did you say. I say this to fleet, but it just goes, I don't really want to.

[Filippo]

Buy anything, despite the fact that I very much do. But I like that car so much more than I thought it would try.

[Kenneth]

Truly nice.

[Nick]

I'll make you a deal on an Ornage.

[Filippo]

Yeah.

[Nick]

So good. Without that. I'll sell it to you for what I paid.

[Filippo]

I'll trade you a Fiat 500, a bar cabriolet.

[Nick]

It's probably a fair trade.

[Filippo]

That's an offer for you.

[Kenneth]

Probably a fair trade.

[Filippo]

All right, Kenneth, what do you got going on?

[Kenneth]

So this weekend, I'm very excited, but by the time you're listening to this, I will be in Mexico for the Mexican Grand Prix. Our friend Kevin is having a bachelor party.

[Nick]

Congratulations, Kevin.

[Kenneth]

Unfortunately you couldn't go. I don't think you could go.

[Nick]

Sadly not I.

[Kenneth]

Formula one is what you want to see. Anyway. Doug couldn't go.

[Nick]

Not allowed in the country. Country.

[Kenneth]

That's right. You've been taking that bribe money.

[Nick]

That's right.

[Filippo]

He actually has a. Has a NAS repeat parked in Mexico.

[Kenneth]

From when a politician covered in dust.

[Filippo]

That explains all of it.

[Nick]

Wrapped in purplish brown black.

[Filippo]

Right?

[Kenneth]

Exactly. But I'm very excited. I've never been to Mexico City before. Everybody raves about it. I'm really excited to go. But. And I. This is my second Formula one race in person of the year.

[Filippo]

I know. It's incredible.

[Kenneth]

Is the other one. And of course the Formula one season is getting more exciting.

[Nick]

Are you watching at the time? Same year.

[Kenneth]

Oh, absolutely.

[Nick]

Last year you seemed so down on Ferrari SL life.

[Kenneth]

That you were so down on Ferrari life. But that. That's being a Ferrari fan. Yeah. But yes. This year is like. It's so close between the two McLaren drivers. And Max Verstappen seems to be catching up quite a bit.

[Nick]

I know.

[Kenneth]

So I. You never know. I would never count Max out. It still seems likely. Likely there'll be a McLaren. I think there's like a 40 point gap or so between him and getting there. But who knows? It could come down to the end. But Mexico City is a great. Has a great track.

[Filippo]

Yeah. The.

[Kenneth]

The track is. Is won elevation. Which is interesting. It's different challenge for the cars.

[Filippo]

Yeah. Me city is surprisingly high.

[Kenneth]

Surprisingly high elevation. But I will be there. So if you see me, come say hello. I don't bite. Would love to see people. I. It was the exact same thing when I was at Spa. Always happy to see people and just can't wait to watch some formula.

[Filippo]

Can't believe you're seeing two races in person this year. Also. Mexico City is an incredible city.

[Kenneth]

I'm very excited.

[Filippo]

It's a beautiful city. And also during Formula one weekend. Maybe there's cool cars too.

[Kenneth]

Yeah.

[Filippo]

Without it. Honestly there aren't. But maybe that we.

[Kenneth]

But maybe. But I'll. I'll look for like a Lupo for you. I'll take a picture.

[Sean]

Yeah.

[Filippo]

Too. But only a first gen loop.

[Kenneth]

Only a first gen loop.

[Nick]

The whole group you're going with are car people too. Right? Yeah.

[Kenneth]

Absolutely. So it's a. I think we've done this before for my friend Sam's or our friend Sam's bachelor party. We went to the Canadian Grand Prix in Montreal and that was a ton of fun. So if you're. If you need bachelor party ideas, go to Formula Formula one races are awesome. And specifically ones outside of the country because they're a lot less expensive. And then you get to see a cool city, you get to do car things. And there's always Formula one stuff in the city as well. The teams have different stuff set up so you can go and check out the cars up close, which is always a lot of fun. So highly recommend it to anybody. Needs a bachelor party idea.

[Nick]

What did you do for your bachelor party?

[Filippo]

I hung out with some friends the night before my wedding.

[Nick]

All right, what did I.

[Kenneth]

Don't talk about.

[Nick]

Ask what you did.

[Filippo]

We can't go down. We can't go down this road.

[Nick]

No. It was either a track day or go karting. I can't remember, but same thing. All the car buddies and we did.

[Kenneth]

Car stuff, so that's surprisingly wholesome.

[Nick]

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[Kenneth]

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[Filippo]

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[Kenneth]

Yes.

[Filippo]

Which is a few months ago I talked about the fact that courtesy of expel I have expel tint on my car.

[Nick]

Oh yeah.

[Filippo]

On the Volkswagen DJI and it's like UV blocking and I keep driving around in cars that get hot inside and then I go home and my car doesn't and that's really nice. So I do recommend it.

[Kenneth]

You know it's the thing that because.

[Filippo]

Like I keep driving other people's cars like rental cars cause I've traveled a of ton ton recently and they all get so hot and you're driving around and it's hot and I now might actually pay to do it on my other cars. It kind of is because I don't modify my cars.

[Nick]

Yeah and tinted modification.

[Kenneth]

We don't even include tinted modification anymore in cars and bids so that your.

[Nick]

Your Fiat is not modified because it's louder than any modified car I've ever.

[Filippo]

Heard from the factory. It's shocking. All my cars are stock man.

[Kenneth]

I'm glad that you said this because yeah also like you can the heat rejection film you can have I believe they do just a translucent one. So if you don't like any color.

[Filippo]

Tinted mine's like minorly tinted which is.

[Kenneth]

Yeah well within the legal requirements. But I'm gl it does make A big difference in like especially on those long road trips in sunny places which you tend to drive to.

[Filippo]

I know a ton but it just. I didn't think it would make a difference cuz there's tint on my wagon but that's like regular t good tint. 12 years ago this is why you.

[Kenneth]

Don'T cheap out on tint flu.

[Filippo]

It turns out. It turns out. This is why you don't cheap out on tint.

[Kenneth]

Yeah. There you are.

[Nick]

I have one more top card too. I'm going to be not at the bachelor party sadly, but I am going to Radwood this weekend as the Port of Los Angeles in the multipla. So if anyone in the LA area wants to see the multipla also come say hi. I am friendly. I got some surf style baggy pants then a multipla shirt. So I won best or radest truck I think was the category with my Celine XB8 a couple years ago. I'm not banking on a win this weekend but I also feel like it's going to be a solid contender. So I like it. And then it's my birthday Sunday so this is the day before my birthday say and I feel like the judges kind of take that into account. So Art or any of the Radwood people, if you're listening, you know this is a shout out here and let's scratch my back, I scratch yours kind of thing.

[Filippo]

Scratch your back by giving you the.

[Nick]

Give me the award and then, and then I'll mention you on the podcast for free.

[Kenneth]

Nobody's ever heard of Radwood before. That's right. Very, very rare.

[Nick]

Hagerty have been mentioned. So I also expect a rate discount.

[Filippo]

I like that strategy of saying it before you asked for something.

[Kenneth]

Yes, right. That's. Well, Nick is a shoot first, ask questions later kind of guy and if.

[Nick]

There'S a problem we'll get you hush money in the form of an Aston Martin Virage.

[Filippo]

God, here's expensive hush money.

[Nick]

A related note, last weekend was cars and copters. There was a helicopter accident which was really sad.

[Filippo]

Nobody a couple of injuries but the.

[Nick]

Kid got pinned under which there's a gofundme for. And like having a kid myself, I'm sure that's traumatic even if he's physically. Okay.

[Filippo]

Okay.

[Nick]

However, the next day during the actual event there was some Streets Takeover style burnouts and people flocking. And then yesterday it was announced that South OC cars and coffee, which is a huge one at an outlet mall, they've had a working relationship with the city for so long. They have permits. All of this. They're doing everything right. They hire security. They're really careful about it and considerate. But even then the burble tunes and the. The takeover crowd has made it rowdier and rowdier. So it's being threatened to being shut down. Then there was also slammed enough Gatlinburg. It got shut down the last day.

[Filippo]

It's 202i vibes.

[Nick]

There is a trend where we can't have nice things because people get a little carried away showing things off. It went from an occasional Mustang taking out a group of people to entire events. So please, if you're watching this. We love cars. We love the sound of them. We love burning burnouts. Yada yada, yada. Stop ruining the events if there are a ton of people there. All you're doing is risking the fun for everyone. And it's not cool. Go do that. You know. In an abandoned parking lot or at a track.

[Filippo]

Track.

[Nick]

Yeah. Or somewhere else that you're not spoiling the fun for everyone.

[Filippo]

Definitely. Like don't go ruin it for everybody else. But these are still public roads where there's other people driving, where there's rules to be followed for good.

[Nick]

And most of the crashes are you hitting a random pedestrian or onlooker and not even an well.

[Kenneth]

And you're just irritating everyone also that like it's not. It's not cool. I've said this before. Like when I see someone in like a really loud car, like rip away at Carson Coffee, it's like I just roll my eyes. And all of us collectively at the same time do that. No one likes it. Like we want to talk about cars and engage like in a very positive way in car culture. But to the exact point you said if it's going to ruin it because other people live there and we share the community with everybody. It's. That's huge. Negative. Can just have some restraint.

[Filippo]

Can I feel a bit. I would never actually.

[Kenneth]

Your Fiat might be too loud.

[Nick]

Borderline.

[Filippo]

And I am mindful of that. I'm going to extend it further. Be a reasonable human when driving too. A few like a month or two ago my wife was driving home from Northern Arizona. Her family lives out there. And you drive through a town called Skull Valley, which is like a lot of like twisty roads because you're going down a mountain and no service. She noticed a car coming the other way that was like crossing across the line. She was able to get off the the road. They then the Car that was passing her was like some regular sedan. Then lost control and like, turned around the intersection. A car behind my wife slammed into them. There's no service for about 20 minutes. So my wife kept driving to, like, call 911. She then did, like, waited for ambulances to show up, et cetera. But somebody did die in that accident. All because somebody was driving quite irresponsibly on public roads.

[Nick]

Yeah.

[Filippo]

Don't. Other people's lives are legitimate, ultimately at risk as a result of your actions. So just don't do that. Find a track, go to track day. Learn how to drive more, more effectively. Don't use public roads as your experimentation.

[Kenneth]

In California, we see it a lot like people go to the canyons, in particular across the double yellows, which is a big no, no. Like, go out and enjoy the roads and have fun, but, like, do it with feverish.

[Nick]

Did you see that 4, 5, 8 that crossed the double yellow at the tail of the dragon?

[Kenneth]

Yeah.

[Nick]

Someone posted on Instagram classic, classic, 458. Meaning they are so young, they think a 458 is a classic car. I'm like, oh, my God, I feel so old. However. Yeah, it slammed into U Haul. It was entirely the Ferrari driver's fault.

[Filippo]

Just don't do that on public roads where it's not just your life at risk. Be mindful that there's other people that are also needing to get places that are driving. Don't want to put them there.

[Nick]

Have fun, be responsible, important psa. Don't die.

[Filippo]

Don't die.

[Kenneth]

Thank you.

[Nick]

It gets in the way of your car hobby.

[Filippo]

If you die and also if you kill somebody, it is bad.

[Nick]

Yeah, that's.

[Filippo]

Don't do that.

[Nick]

Then you need to buy an Aston Martin garage for the family that was affected.

[Kenneth]

Well, speaking of buying and selling cars, we now move on to the market report, which is brought to you this.

[Nick]

Week by the Aston Martin Virage.

[Kenneth]

By the Aston Martin Virage, currently live.

[Filippo]

On cars and bids.

[Kenneth]

Exactly. Is currently live on cars and bits. Filippo, you had some thoughts on.

[Filippo]

I can't believe that transition. I gotta. Gotta reflect on that transition.

[Kenneth]

I know I tried to get it outta there as quickly as I could and I think I saved that458 driver. Never couldn't.

[Nick]

Nice. All right, pull up.

[Filippo]

We sold the V70R recently. That is. I think that's one of the car. I know.

[Kenneth]

Oh, it's such a.

[Filippo]

That has to be the highest. It's the highest V70R result that we've had. I think it's higher than any other public auction one too. It was not a super low mile long but it was an incredible spec. Yeah flash green over over at a comma which is that this like wild green blue over kind of know what brown.

[Kenneth]

Orange is brown.

[Filippo]

Yeah it's with the Spaceball 6 speed manual. It is like the V70R that you would want. It's the right color combination. If you're an insane human who likes insane color combinations. Yeah it's a manual. It's really special. This is a highish mile car scroll down 40,000 miles. It has some mods but it's still got an insane result because the right spec matters. Regular V70Rs automatic ones are not worth much correctly so if we're being honest but the right one really really really is and clearly the market is continuing to reward these. This is the highest result that I've seen. Clearly there's still a lot of interest in these cars and and these I think will continue to appreciate.

[Nick]

Imagine I mean seeing this is one where you take a picture you send.

[Filippo]

It to the whole group 100 I.

[Nick]

Would get out of animus everyone either thumbs up or heart set like that is.

[Filippo]

I would get out of my car to check if like I would stop in traffic get out of my car to check the six do you think.

[Kenneth]

The guy who sold this like I mean the Michelin Pilot Sport 4S tires it looks like on this thing. Do you think this on it's like ah these are so expensive. This car isn't worth much and was rewarded.

[Filippo]

I'll be honest.

[Kenneth]

Okay. I think this a car you it is if you know. You know card but I wouldn't imagine many of these are in non enthusiast.

[Filippo]

Hands at this point.

[Nick]

Especially in that color. Cuz nor would not want that color the Spaceball circle.

[Kenneth]

You ever driven a Spaceball?

[Sean]

No.

[Kenneth]

I haven't either. I'd love to.

[Filippo]

I've driven a bunch of V70 non.

[Kenneth]

No V70Rs I love well you have to. We have to find we got to find a video on cuz let's show.

[Filippo]

You if we had a flash screen or I'll come a V70R in this office. I would have it would be the best day of my life.

[Kenneth]

I'll see if I can make that happen my wife and say etc exactly. We'll see if we it went for.

[Nick]

More than a repeat.

[Filippo]

Yeah yeah and it honestly I'd rather have this than a repeat. Yeah and that says a lot because I do now all of a sudden kind of Want to repeat in case I ever need to bribe.

[Nick]

I don't think this will get you out of political turmoil as effectively but.

[Filippo]

It would for me if if like I create political turmoil for a politician and they need to give me a car. This is not a bad.

[Kenneth]

When I think of you, turmoil is the word that comes to mind.

[Filippo]

I know also I can't be bribed so.

[Kenneth]

Right. That's right. You couldn't bribe him with a cookie if you wanted to.

[Filippo]

He just.

[Kenneth]

He won't accept it. He will accept lettuce though. He does like that. So actually that's how he gets you different kind of.

[Filippo]

All right, move on.

[Nick]

Filippo can't be bribed and that expel read there was absolutely not compensated for right?

[Filippo]

No, only an expel tent and I legitimately am enjoying it.

[Nick]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Kenneth]

I wanted to talk about this car. So we sold a Dodge Viper recently. Now I Vipers have been kind of a weird spot recently. Like we had this GTS that was bid to 85,500 which felt a little. That's a deal honestly.

[Filippo]

Which is.

[Kenneth]

Is a deal. Yeah.

[Filippo]

I did not realize that any. We usually there's not that many 5th gens.

[Kenneth]

Not that many 5th gen and most.

[Filippo]

Of the ones that we sell are really like quite nice. Or like the Spider ta the Viper ta ta the track attack or the zcr. That is interesting. Interesting.

[Kenneth]

But yeah I thought that that GTS result was interesting but this underscores how high the Viper goes. I don't think people fully understand that like the later edition ACRs like are 300 plus thousand dollar cars. I mean it's more than your mercy for that. I mean it's pretty impressive now of course it was the end of the line. Currently it's more than your mercy.

[Nick]

I'm hoping for that number but I'm not getting my hopes up too.

[Filippo]

I will say this is the highest ACR extreme result that I've seen. Sorry there was one higher one but it had 386 miles same.

[Kenneth]

Now of course this does relate to the color. This is striker purple which is a really.

[Nick]

The color is amazing.

[Kenneth]

Incredible looking purple and it was a one owner car 8000 miles that sort of stuff But I it. I kind of forgotten how expensive these cars are. They are very highly sought after which again further underscores how much of a value like the third gen is to me. Like we sold.

[Nick]

We sold a.

[Kenneth]

A friend of cars and bids Steve we sold his Viper for 50 grand which I thought was a very strong result but Even so, I still think this is very cool. I'm happy that the fifth gens are worth so much. Especially the ACRs. If you're looking for value, I really think the third gen, like really, really.

[Nick]

Really consider it that purple one too. I have to say. Anyone, someone, anytime someone posts a garage like that, you just kind of like, you know, you know it was kept well.

[Kenneth]

This is a.

[Nick]

You know, you're buying from a reasonable person. But like look, that garage is incredible. Incredible. I know you clean epoxy on the ground.

[Filippo]

They're actually a storage facility. Just so you know people who help their. Their clients sell cars. I. There was one legitimately. This is one of the highest ACR sales. I did see one that was more but that had under 500 miles when I was clearly there being a. I am glad the 5th gen. That's an insane car.

[Kenneth]

Yeah.

[Filippo]

Just plainly an insane car. I'm glad people are appreciating it totally and using it.

[Kenneth]

There's nothing like it. We, we very likely will will not see a car like this again. 8.4 liter nav 10. Largest engine put in a car since World War II. But an automobile like a car car, not like a.

[Nick]

Is that real? Are you making that up?

[Kenneth]

No, that's true. Largest displacement engine put in the car since the Second World War.

[Nick]

Wow. What happened in World War II?

[Kenneth]

All right, all right.

[Nick]

Blaming with regard to regions.

[Kenneth]

You know what, Nick, open a book.

[Nick]

I just got a bad leg crumb.

[Kenneth]

Yep. God, you really are about to turn 41.

[Nick]

Hey, don't out my age.

[Filippo]

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[Nick]

Yes, that's on my list.

[Filippo]

I know. I'm with you on frothing.

[Kenneth]

Oh, B7RS4. Now this famously the RS4 Avant was not sold for the North American market. It was sold in Europe and other parts of the world, but not here. This one is. This one was brought over. It's in Canada currently because I believe it's what, 15 years.

[Filippo]

Yeah. Can't be imported yet.

[Nick]

Lucky Canuck.

[Kenneth]

Yeah. So it can't be brought into the United States. But look at that. This. I mean this is perfect. It's the one. This is exactly the one you want. Sprint Blue.

[Nick]

Right?

[Kenneth]

Is the name color. Yeah. Sprint Blue. The wagon. This is just so cool, man. When these are imported portable, you really should consider.

[Nick]

I'm like I'm. I'm convert. Considering converting one because I want it so badly.

[Filippo]

Yeah.

[Nick]

I also just kind of wonder like could you find the right day at a DMV where they just don't really know.

[Filippo]

I'm not advocating for this because it is illegal.

[Nick]

But you.

[Filippo]

It is. But like absolutely could get.

[Nick]

This feels like a victimless crime. You could get away with or get someone an Aston Martin Virage. If you get caught.

[Filippo]

There is no doubt you could get this titled. It would not be here legally. The feds could impound it at literally any moment.

[Nick]

Yeah.

[Filippo]

And take it from you. I want to be very clear. You should not do this. Right.

[Kenneth]

On the most listened to automotive podcast on the Internet.

[Filippo]

You should not do this. I do. I think you could get away with it. Yeah.

[Nick]

Of course. I think you probably could for some amount of time.

[Filippo]

You could. Now don't do it, please.

[Kenneth]

Now for a bunch of reasons. There are other things you could do. You could buy this another country and register there and you can bring it in for a certain period of time.

[Nick]

It's a year or two years. Remember. Exactly. It then does have to go back.

[Kenneth]

He has to leave.

[Nick]

You could in theory and people have been doing this with R34s and such before they're legally importable. But it'd be a lot of work.

[Kenneth]

But a lot of work.

[Filippo]

Or just build one. Or.

[Nick]

Or you could build a museum. What's stopping us from making this a museum? A lot.

[Filippo]

Wow. It's an interesting question. We could become the next Lane Motor Museum.

[Kenneth]

I know we let they. They have the best.

[Nick]

The San Diego Automotive Museum is like walking distance from here. So, like, let's park, partner up, collab.

[Kenneth]

That's true. I do know the curator over there.

[Nick]

Yeah.

[Kenneth]

Regardless.

[Filippo]

Such a cool car. Also, the only mods, thankfully, are KW coilovers, which is a acceptable mod on that car.

[Nick]

Yeah, the DRC is known to leak a little bit. The. The dynamic ride control you get is the magnetic ride and a head unit.

[Filippo]

Which is a reasonable one. Like, this is the. The one Sprint blue, blue interior.

[Nick]

There's been a few that I've seen come for sale in Canada. Obviously, even getting it to Canada with 15 years, it's technically legal, but it's not a common thing to do do. And a lot of the ones you do see end up getting pretty modified by, like, hardcore Audi VW people. So it is nice to see one unmolested in the right spec.

[Filippo]

I was in Toronto a couple weeks ago for a wedding, and I spent the entire time looking for rare JDM cars that hadn't. That had been imported there that aren't legal for us yet. I saw none.

[Kenneth]

I'm not surprised.

[Filippo]

There were other. There were a lot of cars that were only sold in. That were not sold in the US but were sold in Canada. But the. Those don't count.

[Kenneth]

I'm not surprised.

[Nick]

It's funny, I. I'm in, like, a bunch of RS4 groups, and there'll be people in, like, the UK and in Europe that are just parting them out for, like, minor accidents because it's like a $15,000 car over there. And then we're all like, oh, my gosh. I would, like, become a museum and pay off a politician to have this car here. It's crazy.

[Filippo]

If you buy, obviously you can't. For another. This needs to be 25, right? Yeah. Okay. You can't forget another eight years.

[Nick]

But 32, I think, is 2032.

[Filippo]

Yeah, I guess we're 2022.

[Kenneth]

And then depending on.

[Filippo]

Regardless, it's the whole thing, you can have another six years. Once you do, I will buy an RS4 convertible to match it.

[Kenneth]

What?

[Nick]

All right.

[Filippo]

The RS4 cabriolet of this generation is the rarest RS4.

[Nick]

That's right.

[Kenneth]

I understand this. You're not getting one of them.

[Filippo]

I would.

[Nick]

By then they'll be like 4. 4 grand.

[Kenneth]

We sold a couple RS4.

[Filippo]

They. They have held their value. Yeah.

[Nick]

Which is shocking because it's not.

[Filippo]

They're the rarest RS4.

[Nick]

It's the rarest and also least desirable.

[Filippo]

But they're the rarest RS4.

[Kenneth]

Why did they build them?

[Filippo]

Go back to the one before that. Sold for 43.

[Nick]

This was a. I mean remember the A4 had one before the two door convertible as well. That's just a thing they were doing.

[Filippo]

That's a $43,000 car apparently.

[Kenneth]

Yeah, well, this one was.

[Nick]

A lot of them have like no miles because the sedans were used as dailies. The convertibles were like you lived somewhere with inclement weather and like you wanted to extend your summer car a little bit into the fall and spring. But like it really wasn't like a.

[Filippo]

Daily six speed manual, all wheel drive, V8.

[Kenneth]

It is cool. We saw one at Road Atlanta. It was, it was. I haven't seen one in years.

[Filippo]

Years.

[Kenneth]

But it was. That is a very cool crop. But we have to move it on. We have to move it on to questions, questions, questions, questions.

[Filippo]

I'm going to take the questions, I'm going to read out the questions.

[Kenneth]

Filippo's going to read the questions. But if you want to ask us a question, you go to the community tab. There'll be a post under this car pod. You click there and you can ask questions that Filippo, Nick, Doug, our producer, Sean, any of us, we will answer them. And we have a lot of good questions.

[Filippo]

I want to be really transparent. Normally Doug selects the questions. He's gone this week. So our producer has selected a subset of questions. Questions and he has added a note next to one that says you must do this in all caps.

[Nick]

Is it about Al?

[Filippo]

So we're going to find out. We're going to find out.

[Kenneth]

It's about the tip Frog from.

[Filippo]

From Cardi carts. Rank your top five cars from the Fast and the Furious franchise. Rank your top five cars in the Fast and the Furious franchise. The Lightning. The Ford SVT Lightning.

[Nick]

Yeah, that's a great one.

[Kenneth]

Put that up there.

[Filippo]

The Fiero, the of space. That happens. I think I'm putting the three.

[Kenneth]

I'm putting the, the super and the 355 together as a pair.

[Filippo]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Kenneth]

Deserve to be on there.

[Filippo]

The gli, you'll choose the Jetta gli.

[Nick]

It is an icon.

[Filippo]

Is it a GLI or is it not A generation that had a. It's.

[Nick]

It's a Mark IV Jedi. I don't know.

[Filippo]

Right. With Trim y Suki S 2000.

[Nick]

The R34 that Paul actually owned.

[Filippo]

The 3000. GTVR4 that I think is in the spring.

[Kenneth]

Second one.

[Nick]

Yeah.

[Filippo]

Isn't there a 300 TV or 4 convertible. In the second one, I feel like there was the Charger from the.

[Kenneth]

I've only seen the thing. I've only seen the first one, so I can't really. The second.

[Nick]

I think we've succeeded some. No, this. We're just naming all the cards. All the cards. You're supposed to rank them.

[Filippo]

I believe.

[Nick]

Or pick.

[Filippo]

I think I need to do some preparation. Can you.

[Nick]

How come the Lycan's not in your list?

[Filippo]

The what?

[Nick]

The L. What it was. It was a car with a lot of angles. I think if you buy it, like jumped over a vehicle.

[Filippo]

Oh, that car, the one that.

[Nick]

That flew out of a building for whatever reason. Had one at one point. That was like a.

[Kenneth]

Wasn't it a shell or something? Did it. It didn't run.

[Filippo]

You guys saw the scene, right? It drove out of a building.

[Nick]

Yeah. And to another building. As you do.

[Filippo]

These are all real things. Everything that we've said is a real thing. If you don't know the franchise, these are all real things that happen.

[Nick]

The franchise has gotten exponentially worse each episode. But yeah, sales have also gotten exponentially higher. So. Yeah, perhaps I'm an outlier there.

[Filippo]

Yeah.

[Nick]

There's also. Was it two or three? That the. It was the Evo and then the Eclipse.

[Filippo]

Yeah, that too.

[Nick]

It was like the bad Eclipse. Like that was so bad.

[Filippo]

But the Evo was good.

[Nick]

There was a Selene Viper.

[Filippo]

There was a third gen Viper in.

[Nick]

The second movie, the Saleen S281 Hollywood Edition that got crushed by two SUV or semi trucks at the beginning.

[Filippo]

Nice.

[Nick]

There's been a lot of good cars.

[Filippo]

There have been. I have seen all the movies incredibly.

[Nick]

Wow.

[Kenneth]

Wow.

[Filippo]

My wife and I went through a thing of watching all of them over years. The course of like six months or a year. But only the first three stick in my mind. And the fifth one. The fifth one I consider to be maybe the best one. They steal a safe out of a police off police department in Brazil.

[Kenneth]

It's pretty good. But then again, people steal some stuff. The Louvre this week, so a little more.

[Filippo]

There's also a Volkswagen Tuareg in that one. And that's a pretty good car.

[Kenneth]

Yeah. I don't. I don't know why I haven't watched them. I just.

[Filippo]

You haven't seen any of them. This is the first one you need to watch. The second, the third, the fifth. Second, the third, the fifth, and then the seventh. Because a car drives out of a building to another building.

[Nick]

When Paul passed. He drives a White Supra as the roads depart. I cried in that. Literally in the theater. But like that's definitely got to be number one.

[Kenneth]

I think the Supra has to be number one if you're going to pick. I know this doesn't really answer the question, but you're going to pick one.

[Nick]

I think the Supra, it's Supra and Skyline because it really brought the import tuner culture to the main dream.

[Filippo]

Really did.

[Kenneth]

Super.

[Filippo]

And Skylines are popular because of that movie.

[Nick]

Influential wise. I do agree the. The Mark 4 Jetta is like oddly recognizable. Frankie Mun bought it famously really after. And had.

[Filippo]

He's a race car driver now.

[Nick]

Yeah. Oh yeah. In nascar. Right? Or maybe Sprint, I think. The Sprint Cup Series.

[Kenneth]

Yeah.

[Nick]

Funny enough speaking of bachelor parties, my wife was at a bachelorette party in Arizona. He was dining there with his crew and he paid for the entire party's dinner meal.

[Filippo]

Wow.

[Nick]

Just like no eye, like barely eye contact like you said, congratulations, I bought your. And it was like 15 girls like all eating dinner at some fancy restaurant.

[Filippo]

By the way, it was a Mark 3 story.

[Nick]

Yeah.

[Kenneth]

Yeah.

[Nick]

So he's like a real good guy.

[Filippo]

Can't believe you had the wrong generation for Volkswagen Audi products.

[Nick]

I. I'm more of an Audi Filipo.

[Kenneth]

It happens sometimes. People make mistakes.

[Nick]

It's okay.

[Kenneth]

Give us another question.

[Filippo]

Yeah. Can I give you a different one?

[Kenneth]

Yeah, absolutely.

[Filippo]

Next question from. Wow. I know that most of you are married. Nick and I are. Kenan maybe proposing soon. If you were hypothetically single, which cars would be a serious red flag if they were owned by a potential partner. Also, if you were giving advice to a female friend looking for a partner, what cars that a car guy might own would be red flags?

[Kenneth]

Man. Cars that someone owned were a red flag.

[Filippo]

I think for me there's a lot of cars that are bad cars that people might own. They're not three red flags. Cuz they may have made sense at that time. Now if they modified cars in like a horrible way that I don't like, that would be a bit of a red flag.

[Kenneth]

BZ4X.

[Filippo]

No, that's not a red flag. They. They. I would question their responsibility. I would question their decision making. I would question a lot of things. So it's like a. Yeah, it's a red flag. It's good point.

[Kenneth]

Yeah. Isn't that what that means?

[Filippo]

If you just buy a bad car when you had better options? That's a little bit of a red flag about your. Your ability to be a responsible Human.

[Kenneth]

Right. Let's. What other.

[Filippo]

There's a lot of cars that I would tell if a female friend was starting to date somebody that would be.

[Kenneth]

Like any Nissan product, basically.

[Filippo]

No.

[Nick]

Any.

[Kenneth]

Well, there's some good Nissan.

[Filippo]

Any modified M4.

[Kenneth]

Yeah, yeah. Slam that. You know what, that. But then, but see then someone is kind of interested in cars. I don't think we would agree on things. But I think a 4 series.

[Filippo]

Fine. An M4 may be fine. A modified M4 competition, not fine.

[Kenneth]

Or you can woman up like Emily and get an M3 CRT. But.

[Nick]

Well, if you have an M3 CRT.

[Filippo]

That'S a green flag.

[Kenneth]

Yeah, that's a very green flag.

[Nick]

I'll answer this in a way that won't be controversial and get cut and then have to be re filmed hypothetically speaking in that. And I've talked to my wife about this before. I don't expect my partner to be into cars or have good taste in cars or like they can be car agnostic. So really I wouldn't judge or care what car they drove as long as they're cool with me having a car hobby. Like sure, they could have a cooler car than me. They could have the. They could have a Prius. I, I wouldn't really care too much. I would maybe be worried about if they had a car that was like extremely high maintenance in a way that like a G wagon kind of vibe of like I want to be like a car. Oh, like a materialistic person. Like for you.

[Filippo]

Yeah, that.

[Nick]

That new Maybach convertible that has the Maybach logos on the hood. Like that would scare me.

[Filippo]

I would marry somebody that has that car.

[Nick]

That's true. They would be wealthy.

[Filippo]

They'd be wealthy. Keep that in mind.

[Nick]

The dowry would be really beneficial.

[Kenneth]

Yes.

[Filippo]

And then.

[Nick]

Right.

[Kenneth]

Yeah. But then you have to go through a divorce because it's going to happen inevitably.

[Filippo]

But then, but then you might get something out of it.

[Kenneth]

Of course you would. Look at the financial.

[Filippo]

I do think to that point if somebody made a decision decision there's a. Cars for most people are just like a financial decision. It's the second largest purchase you make other than your house. Right. Probably if somebody made like a really irresponsible decision. A BZ4X is on that line. But like if they're like incredibly underwater on a. But they bought a bunch of Jeep Liberties and capturing them in and kept being more underwater and financing. Point 30. That's a bit of a red flag because I worry about their financial habits right now. Owning a Jeep Liberty on its own. Might just be that you're from the Midwest, you know, like, Depends.

[Kenneth]

Yeah. Now, so on the flip side of things for, like, I. I do have friends or women who are. Are single.

[Filippo]

If.

[Kenneth]

If the guys, if they're dating someone, he's into cars and I find out what car it is. There are certain ones that I'm a little nervous about. Any Challenger. Wow. Mustangs. I don't know There. I don't know. Camaros. Like Camaros. Kind of a red flag card of me.

[Filippo]

I stand by M4 comps that are modded.

[Kenneth]

M4 comp is actually a pretty good baseline. That's a pretty good one. Anything thing that I will say if they. Like, he's interested in cars and I ask him a question about cars, and the guy doesn't know anything. Like, you can tell. You can tell when someone doesn't actually know anything about cars. That, that to me is more of.

[Nick]

If you fake badged or up Badged car. Red flag. Good up. Badging a drift charm hanging from your rear tow hook. Red flag. Missing your front tow hook cover. Hypothetically. Red flag.

[Kenneth]

Red flag. Yeah. Fallout and convenience.

[Filippo]

Mismatched hub.

[Nick]

Yes.

[Filippo]

Oh, that's for a car that has mismatched tires. Oh, sure. That just kind of indicates that you're not attentive.

[Kenneth]

You're a lack of detail person. And I don't, I don't have any tolerance for that.

[Filippo]

All of my single friends that drive Ferrari 360s are a little questionable, but that's specific to me.

[Kenneth]

I think that might be specific to you. Yeah. I don't know. I think some. Something in there like that. Yeah. Speaks to either their materialism or, like, you can extrapolate something more on their personality.

[Nick]

Rapture car. Gold. Gold or wrap of wrap or like any kind of like, bass boat level finish.

[Filippo]

Unless it's really good. You've been to Arizona also if you have a bass boat, that's maybe a pro. Yeah. We love all cars. And that is factoring in here, it's a little bit more about. What does that say about your.

[Kenneth]

I don't love all cars. Not everybody loves all cars. That's just a fact. You hate expensive cars. I don't particularly like inexpensive cars.

[Filippo]

Well, that's an interesting point. If you, you drive a huracan, if your friend is like meeting somebody that drives like a, like, huracan.

[Kenneth]

As long as it's not, like, owned to chase comas, I think we're okay. Like, like, you know, McLaren Huracans are. Yeah.

[Filippo]

All right.

[Kenneth]

I don't know, I. Ultimately it comes down more to the person themselves, less about the car that they drive. Or it should.

[Filippo]

Yeah.

[Nick]

The Adoli I think is a good sign.

[Filippo]

It's a good sign. Yeah.

[Nick]

I think it's a great thick and hull things. Yep.

[Filippo]

What about like a. A Carolina squat?

[Nick]

Bad sign.

[Kenneth]

Yeah, bad sign.

[Filippo]

Bad sign. All right, moving on to a question from Bear at the Control seven. You just heisted print priceless jewels from a major European museum which has maybe happened this week. What are you picking as your getaway car? Oh, cuz you need it to be quick, maneuverable, but also maybe discreet.

[Kenneth]

You want it to be discreet? Definitely. You want to blend in. I mean in this country it'd be a Tesla of some kind. They're gazillion Model Threes.

[Filippo]

That's a great point. Because they fly under the radar, they're silent, they're fast.

[Nick]

Yes.

[Filippo]

And in Southern California nobody pays attention to model three.

[Kenneth]

You can get. I mean a white Model three because they are everywhere.

[Filippo]

It's not bad.

[Nick]

Except isn't this the plot of the Italian Job?

[Kenneth]

It's the plot of every. It's Ocean's thirteen, the Italian Job, they.

[Filippo]

Were stealing money from a guy's house. He, for what it's worth, had a NASA Martin V12.

[Kenneth]

I guess it was Ocean's 12. They stole the Faberge egg. I think almost really similar plot line to.

[Filippo]

But in Europe we choose some kind of small hatchback. It's France, it's Paris, everybody drives small hatchback.

[Nick]

I'd say a wayo cuz it can't narc on you, but it can.

[Filippo]

There's cameras on the inside, there's cameras on the outside. It won't go around. Emergency.

[Kenneth]

If you're going to pick the worst one, that is the worst. Nick's getting caught is what's going to happen.

[Filippo]

What if you hypothetically stole a price jewel and sold it, what would you buy? What would you sign? Because the question at the end of the Italian Job, excellent movie by the way, is what do you like?

[Kenneth]

Original or the remake?

[Filippo]

The remake. Original. Also good. They drive around Fiat's test track, top of a building. How can you not love it? Yeah. The question, like, what do you spend that money on? What would you. What would be the telltale sign that you stole a ton of money you already owned? A mercy. But it's just for some people to tell the sign, he'd own another one.

[Kenneth]

What's the.

[Nick]

It would. It would definitely be all cars.

[Kenneth]

It'd be all cars.

[Filippo]

What is the one car that you.

[Kenneth]

Oh yeah think of is probably for me being F50 of course but like the V is probably the one for him. But not that I would steal the priceless item of return to the people of France where it belongs.

[Filippo]

I would of course just invest it responsibly.

[Kenneth]

You invest in portfolio.

[Nick]

Well done wild.

[Kenneth]

The IRS would be looking at you.

[Filippo]

All right, the second question from Bear the Control 7. Which automaker that currently doesn't offer any enthusiast oriented models do you think is best positioned to launch one?

[Nick]

There's not many left is there?

[Filippo]

Who doesn't make it a performance car.

[Nick]

That should Toyota makes a Supra. What is Honda doesn't make the S2000 anymore.

[Filippo]

Specific type R though.

[Kenneth]

I'll say Mitsubishi had a great history of making very high performance, very cool cars. They were killing it in the 90s and early 2000s and. And it is all gone now. What do they make?

[Filippo]

I'm really excited for the clips Cross.

[Kenneth]

They need a whole new car Dr. 4 I'll go for like when turbocharging became more popular and we were losing the naturally aspirated engines and that was the way things were scoot. I mean this was like early 2010s late knots. I really felt that like that was the time that if Buick wanted to bring back a Grand national they should have and it would have been. That would have been cool.

[Filippo]

Buick is a good answer.

[Nick]

Sort of this.

[Filippo]

Although they only make SUVs now.

[Kenneth]

They only make SUVs now. But if they were going to if you work. I mean the grand national is so damn cool and they only. I mean they weren't a performance focused company but if they were going to do one bring back the grand national that'd be cool. Or bring back the Evo.

[Filippo]

Yeah, I do think it's a Honda to your point does make the Civic Type R and that's an enthusiast car but that's the only one I can think of that Honda makes. And I think that every other automaker, every premium automaker certainly has realized that you can make a lot of money by selling like M Sport or amg.

[Kenneth]

Whatever they call S line or whatever. Yeah.

[Filippo]

Why hasn't Honda like remade sporty ish products like they could type they would sell well with a. Because sporty with a. With a crv.

[Kenneth]

Honda respects the purity. They don't need to do an st. You know like a.

[Filippo]

They respect the purity even to okay Toyota, we talked about this a few months ago now has the next generation RAV4 has a grand model that has a suspension. Two by GR first drives were out today. I'm incredibly sad that I wasn't in Phoenix reviewing it that I wanted to legitimately. I've already had a fight today. No, pull it up. The RAV4GR. I don't even. They're making their compact SUV which is a plug in hybrid, 320 something horsepower. They're making a sporty version of it that is a apparently quite decent. Yeah, like. Like why doesn't Honda making anything sporty?

[Kenneth]

But you are talking about something we all bemoan like sick of seeing M bad. Find me, go into a BMW dealership. Find me a BMW that is does not have an M badge on it. They all have it even if they're not M cars. It's very annoying.

[Filippo]

Alpena BX7XP7.

[Kenneth]

I'll bet there's an M badge somewhere. But like it's just. I just, I don't like this personally because in my opinion like I liked it's like get the special car. Like honestly it takes time. Get. Get a used one, something like that if you want it. Like just save and get the special car. Like that's kind of my, my view on it. I, I hate when companies water down these special brands. I understand that they're making it more accessible but the reality of it is is like an M3 is an M3 and an M Sport is like just not.

[Filippo]

I don't know. Do you know any how fast a 340IM Sport?

[Kenneth]

I know it's fast but the M3 is faster and it's an M3. It's the real deal.

[Filippo]

Clearly the mar. Clearly the market does want some sportiness. And if automakers build slightly sportier versions of interesting cars or cars generally that makes it a little bit interesting.

[Kenneth]

Yeah, I liked when BMW did the is thing though. If I'm going to make the BMW comparison like I liked when they did that. I thought that was too discreet.

[Filippo]

You need more Ambadges.

[Kenneth]

Well, I like discretion.

[Nick]

All right, let's say I interpreted the question. I mean an actual sports car rather than an enthusiast trim. And my answer was going to be Cadillac, they need the XLR V, the CT4V Blackwing. They make a sports car to me has two doors.

[Filippo]

Got it, got it.

[Nick]

Maybe a small but unusable rear seat. So if we had the CN or the XLR V something like they need the C8 Corvette Cadillac version. I think it would sell well.

[Filippo]

I agree.

[Nick]

I think it's a no brainer. They've already done all the development. Give me a mid engine Cadillac. I'm interested.

[Filippo]

I agree. You know, it'd be nice if Ferrari made a good sports car. All right.

[Kenneth]

Nothing you would know they make great sports cars.

[Filippo]

Joking. I'm joking. I'm joking. I'm joking. All right. We do one more question.

[Kenneth]

One more question.

[Nick]

Bonus question.

[Filippo]

Okay. This is a question from just John Caution you this person wants specifically your opinions.

[Nick]

Oh boy.

[Filippo]

They want. What are some of your automotive opinions that you feel more comfortable sharing without Doug here?

[Nick]

I feel like with the I enjoy pushing Doug's buttons so I don't hold them back. And I, I feel like roof is an automotive manufacturer we already talked about. Mods are good to talk about. I, I, I, I enjoy making them upset. So I don't know if I've held any back. What else do I have?

[Kenneth]

Is there a car that he loves that you hate?

[Filippo]

Oh, but he, we would know about it.

[Nick]

You're right. Yeah. Doug and I have pretty similar tastes. Like the Bentley Dominator.

[Kenneth]

Yeah.

[Nick]

Diablo Y actually. Yes. Although again I've argued with Doug to it. Doug thinks the Diablo 6.0 is the ugly or the bad version of the Diablo. I consider to be the grail. And like yes, I like all the, all the Diablos. But I think the 6.0 is the most beautiful and aesthetically pleasing inside and out. And Doug feels strongly that the early Diablos are the Diablos. I think it's like the Countach. He was trying to say this is like the 25th anniversary Countach is to the periscopo. I think the 6.0. Maybe it was just like I was of the right age where I was certainly like most impressionable. But I love the Nissan headlights. The interior no longer looks like a kit car. It looks like a real car.

[Kenneth]

Well, they put real engineering into it too. I mean the interior got 2 inches wider. I've driven, driven both of course. I've driven an SV and I've driven a 6.0 and a Sunset Edition. Yeah, but I counted. They're on my list.

[Nick]

Did it get a 6 speed too or is it still a 5 speed?

[Kenneth]

Still 5 speed all the way through is a 5 speed but it's got.

[Nick]

A 6 liter engine. I mean anytime you get more display generally better too.

[Kenneth]

I like the way the rear wheel drive cars drive better. I liked the earlier car better, I have to say.

[Nick]

All right, all right.

[Kenneth]

And I also like, I think that I actually agree with him that I think that like I like the pop up headlight cars. Like, I just. They're more classic to me. But I understand why you like this because it's a transition between this and the mercy. And this is what you remember when you were that age. And like, the Internet was something. You started seeing cars like this. And like this one is cemented in your memory. And it is. I doesn't matter if it's a later car or an early car. Any Diablo to me is damn cool.

[Nick]

The other. The other Doug, Hot take that I think is objectively wrong is he's obsessive about. About license plates.

[Filippo]

Oh, you don't agree?

[Nick]

It feels that having license plates from a certain state are a detractor to the overall driving experience. I celebrate all overall driving, especially ones to the north that have no sales tax and emissions. I love the line.

[Filippo]

I celebrate all states.

[Kenneth]

He doesn't know where they are, but he celebrates them.

[Nick]

No, I know where Montana's next to Wyoming.

[Filippo]

Yeah.

[Kenneth]

Yep.

[Nick]

If we were talking about Montana, which maybe we are, maybe we aren't.

[Filippo]

Of course, next week.

[Nick]

Next week. We don't know what car I'm going get to get next. We don't know where I'm going to register.

[Filippo]

Of course, next week you will get to hear more of Nick's opinions. I will be gone for the next three weeks, incredibly, which I'm very sad. Wow. But you will instead, in my place, get Nick, and you'll get Nick and Doug together. So that's going to be a.

[Nick]

Do I have to take on your.

[Filippo]

You do, actually. Okay. Well, Filippo, you must talk about CEOs, you must talk about EVs.

[Nick]

I will. I will invest wisely.

[Filippo]

Thank you.

[Kenneth]

And if someone suggests this excite exciting card, you. You go. I don't know. That's what you.

[Filippo]

In the meantime, make sure to check out my as Martin Virage video. Make sure to also check out Nick's channel, YouTube.com Nick Rashon.

[Nick]

Yeah.

[Filippo]

And thank you for watching. What is this? This is the. The what?

[Kenneth]

This is the best podcast we've ever done.

[Nick]

Best one.

[Filippo]

Ken said it.

[Kenneth]

Yep. Thank you for watching. We'll talk to you next time.

[Nick]

Goodbye.

[Kenneth]

Goodbye.