Hoovie is Here! What is Mercedes Thinking? New Manual BMW M3! Gullwing Issues!

Summary

THIS CAR POD! with Doug DeMuro & Friends!

Episode: Hoovie is Here! What is Mercedes Thinking? New Manual BMW M3! Gullwing Issues!

Date: May 22, 2026
Host: Doug DeMuro
Guests: Hoovie (Tyler Hoover), Nick, and friends

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Episode Overview

This lively episode celebrates Doug DeMuro's birthday and features special guest Hoovie (Tyler Hoover), famed for his adventures with “the cheapest cars in America.” The episode dives into the latest automotive news—ranging from the confusing Mercedes lineup and a Brabus supercar to a manual-only BMW M3 CS—and moves on to intense discussions about car ownership, dealer adventures, auction strategies, taxes, YouTube careers, and the changing landscape of automotive content. The hosts also field a series of entertaining and thoughtful audience questions focused on car culture and personal journeys.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Birthday Banter, Aging, and Pretty Podcasters

• Lighthearted opening about Doug's birthday and turning older, with Hoovie joining in ("Daddy. You're getting a little older. That's funny. I've called you daddy for almost 10 years now." - B, 00:26).
• Jokes about being the "prettiest guy on the pod" and friendly ribbing about appearances.

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2. NEWS: Mercedes AMG GT Four Door Coupe Confusion & Electric Future

[01:01 - 05:33]

• Model Overload: Discussion about Mercedes' increasingly confusing model nomenclature with the AMG GT Coupe, GT Four Door, and now the GT Four Door Coupe.

  • "There's a Mercedes AMG GT Coupe, there's a Mercedes AMG GT four door, and now there's a Mercedes AMG GT four door coupe. Is this troublesome for you?" – Doug, [01:10]
  • Hoovie admits he stopped following new cars post-2007.

• All-Electric Power: The new GT Four Door Coupe is electric, boasts 1,153 hp, but the rear design and styling divide opinion; comparisons to Audi/Taycan EVs.

• Market Skepticism: Group wonders if there’s genuine demand for such an extreme EV, given poor sales for other luxury EV sedans (Taycan, RS E Tron, EQS).

  • "I mean, even the Model S, the EQS..." – Nick, [04:07]

• Pricing & Depreciation: Noted heavy depreciation in EQS models; skepticism over future value.

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3. Brabus's First Real Car: The Brabus Rocket 900 "One of 77"

[05:33 - 09:08]

• Coachbuilding Comeback: Brabus launches their own V12 longtail coupe based on Aston Martin, revealed at Villa d'Este.
• Unique Features: Quilted interiors, carbon fiber, bespoke Brabus tires (which could be a resale headache).
  • "Haven't we learned do never do a special tire for a car. It just kills the resale." – Nick, [08:12]
• Market Context: Praised for being powerful, unique, not an EV—a rarity.
  • Hoovie: "This is real. Like in the age of all these dummy EVs coming out..." [07:25]
• Aston Martin Collab: Aston’s flexibility as a partner, helping push 77 units.

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4. BMW M3 CS Hanschalter: Manual, RWD, U.S.-Exclusive

[09:14 - 12:31]

• Manual Rejoice: Announcement of a manual-only, rear-wheel drive M3 CS, exclusive to the U.S. Market.
• Naming Misstep: Debate over Germans picking awkward names ("Hanschalter"), compared with Italians' stylish naming conventions.
  • "The Italians get away with naming a car the Quattroporte. It just means four door." – Doug, [09:41]
• Collector Prospects: Considered a future collectible, especially in special colors.
  • “This is the car that if you bought one of these today and put it away in 20 years... it'll sell for a half a million.” – Doug, [10:17]
• Rising Value: Comparison to classic manuals (E39 M5, 1M), future nostalgia cycles.
• Grille Acceptance: Ongoing debate about BMW’s large grille; time softening opinions.

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5. Ferrari One-Off for a Texas Customer

[17:41 - 19:18]

• Special Commission: Ferrari builds an F8 Spider-derived, non-hybrid V8 one-off for a wealthy U.S. client—a likely $10-15 million build.
  • "It's so cool that Ferrari is doing this. These one off things, I bet they're 10 or $15 million." – Doug, [18:35]
• Non-Hybrid Appeal: Group delighted at a modern, analog-feeling, collector-focused Ferrari.
• Factory Customization: Amusement at Ferrari’s willingness to build just about anything for the right sum.

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6. Land Rover and Jeep/Chrysler Tie-Up (JLR & Stellantis MOU)

[19:45 - 21:29]

• Tariff Workarounds: Land Rover seeking U.S. partner to avoid tariffs—some derision about reliability, referencing their checkered past (BMW, etc.).
  • "Land Rover goes looking to help to help build some cars in the states and who do they find? Chrysler." - Doug, [20:06]
• Gen Z Reference: Modern partnerships likened to aimless Gen Z “talking” before actually dating.

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7. VW ID.Buzz Revival & Market Struggles

[22:01 - 24:47]

• Cool but Flawed: The Buzz returns for 2027 with a camper "bed" version but remains hampered by poor range, high price, and questionable utility.
• Depreciation Woes: Cars being sold at significant discounts; panelists argue it’s a “market correction.”
  • "Any new car that sells at X discount, that should have been the price." – Doug, [23:11]
• Disconnect: Largest gap between “coolness” and sales performance on the market today.

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8. Hoovie’s Auction Cars & Fire Sale Explanation

[27:24 - 45:54]

• Auction Highlights: Hoovie is selling several vehicles on Cars & Bids, including a Breaking Bad Cadillac (used by Bryan Cranston), Maybach 62, a problematic 997 Porsche, and more.
  • Story of the Maybach’s partition (and how it’s desirable for export buyers).
  • 997 Carrera: “Scammed” with hidden issues—now offloading at a loss.
  • “It's probably the longest list of disclosures..." – Hoovie, [44:40]
• Annual Fire Sale: Hoovie explains his cycles of selling cars, usually driven by tax deadlines, home renovations, or fiscal miscalculations—now almost a tradition.
  • "It's just an alternate savings account." – Doug, [45:28]
• Tax Caution: Detailed about capital gains/tax confusion and YouTube income realities.
  • "I can't spend 90 days in a white collar prison. Like it's not worth it." – Hoovie, [47:42]

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9. Gullwing Saga & Mercedes Classic Center vs. DC Motorworks

[48:55 - 56:01]

• Gullwing Engine Failure: Hoovie’s 300SL had over $100k of recent work at Mercedes’ Classic Center; shortly after the engine failed.
  • “Just laying out the facts. I'm like Joe Rogan. I'm just asking questions, man.” – Doug, [51:11]
• Classic Center vs. Indie Shop: Classic Center subcontracts the real rebuild work; Hoovie now moving to DC Motorworks for engine overhaul and flexibility (they’re “the classic center of Atlanta”).
  • “Mercedes Benz has this classic center where you bring them a car and they will fix literally anything.” – Doug, [49:20]
• Parts Support Praise: Universal praise for Mercedes and Porsche supporting classic models, unlike more restrictive manufacturers.

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10. Hoovie’s Evolving Channel, Next Steps, and YouTube Real Talk

[56:24 - 66:00]

• Supercar Exit: No more modern supercars in his fleet (except maybe the Gullwing); focus returning to affordable, relatable “hoopties.”
• Taking Over Car Wizard's Shop: With Car Wizard moving to New Mexico, Hoovie is likely to take over his mechanic shop in Newton, KS, possibly restarting a dealership/hub for enthusiasts.
  • “This is all massive stuff. I'm looking all this up. So he's up in Newton.” – Doug, [60:41]
• Audience Engagement: Reflection on fans randomly showing up at his property/shop (midwestern norms), unique challenges of a public profile in a small town.

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11. Hooptie Car Buying Philosophy & Garage Rotation

[65:56 - 72:14]

• Current Cars for Sale: Lincoln Blackwood (“actually just got the head gasket done”); Town Car; P38 Range Rover (selling, prefers Wagoneer instead), 997 Porsche (“most disclaimers ever”).
• Hoovie vs. P38/Wagoneer: Heated debate about the merits of the unloved Land Rover vs. classic Wagoneers; mutual nostalgia for big, silly SUVs—"the last bastion of driving a 50s car." – Doug, [70:11]
• Drive time: Hoovie ensures every car gets driven at least every two months, except for collection oddities (Jurassic Park Jeep, Fast & Furious Prius).

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “There's a Mercedes AMG GT Coupe, there's a Mercedes AMG GT four door, and now there's a Mercedes AMG GT four door coupe. Is this troublesome for you?” – Doug, [01:10]
• “There's never been a greater disconnect between coolness and sales failure. Like, it's crazy to me, but it's overpriced. It's not particularly practical. It's too big, too long.” – Doug, [23:24]
• “So, you know, I have, like, an alternate savings account. What do I do when it's tax time? I sell some cars.” – Doug, [45:28]
• "I can't spend 90 days in a white collar prison. Like it's not worth it." – Hoovie, [47:42]
• "In the industry, we say there's a butt for every seat. There's a butt for every seat. Someone will want it for the exact purposes that you describe." – Doug, [44:52]
• “I'm just laying out the facts. I'm like Joe Rogan. I'm just asking questions, man.” – Doug, [51:11]
• “This is as big of a reach as any of those shows will ever have. And you don't have to do all the, all the BS.” – Doug, [90:36]
• “I find it interesting because... the struggle with our content ... that's what we have now have to compete with now is TV Quality level production in reviews and car ownership and all that stuff.” – Hoovie, [90:57]

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Audience Q&A – Highlights

[72:24 - show’s end]

• Is Doug a maniac or just seem like one?
  • “No, you're not a maniac at all. You're very rational. You're very unfiltered, which... most people don't have.” – Hoovie, [73:10]
• Stealing Doug’s team?
  • "I'd take Kenan. It would be very chill, pleasant, happy. Nobody'd be threatening each other." – Hoovie, [77:01]
• How to Meet Car Girls:
  • “Just go up and talk to them... You're way ahead than having to like, let's talk for a month on Instagram DMs before we actually, like, interact.” – Hoovie, [78:52]
• If you had to leave the US to escape crippling debt, where?
  • “Italy is somewhere I love going back to. Every time I think the... car culture is there and...you could still live reasonably.” – Hoovie, [81:41]
• Brand most likely to disappoint:
  • “A lot of the modern BMWs that get me, and Maseratis there's been some rough ones too...” – Hoovie, [87:33]
• Are brand deals now more lucrative than Adsense?
  • “It has passed [Adsense] dramatically at this point.” – Hoovie, [89:08]
• Will you embrace short-form video?
  • “I need to. You have a team that spends hours and hours...it makes us no money.” – Doug, [92:35]

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Notable Timestamps for Segmented Listening

• Intro & Birthday Banter: [00:05-01:01]
• Mercedes AMG GT Four Door Coupe Discussion: [01:10-05:33]
• Brabus Supercar: [05:33-09:08]
• BMW M3 CS Hanschalter: [09:14-12:31]
• Ferrari One-Off: [17:41-19:18]
• JLR/Stellantis Partnership: [19:45-21:29]
• VW ID.Buzz: [22:01-24:47]
• Auction Cars, Tax Stories & Fire Sale: [27:24-45:54]
• Gullwing & Mercedes Classic Center: [48:55-56:01]
• Wizard Moving, Newton Shop & Midwest Living: [56:24-66:00]
• Hoovie's Car Buying/Ownership Philosophy: [65:56-72:14]
• Listener Q&A: [72:24-end]

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Episode Tone & Language

The pod maintains an irreverent, humorous, and deeply knowledgeable tone. There’s constant back-and-forth banter, good-natured roasting, and marked expertise on obscure car topics. While playful and self-deprecating, the group delivers consistently sharp insight into the realities of car collecting, YouTube careers, and the changing car market for both everyday drivers and enthusiasts.

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In Closing

This episode is a must-listen for anyone who loves behind-the-scenes car culture, the absurdities of luxury and collector markets, or just deeply nerdy automotive conversation. With Hoovie in the studio and classic chemistry among the hosts, it’s a fast-moving, information-packed, and highly entertaining display of why THIS CAR POD! stands out.

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Memorable Closing Quote:
"I want to provide you with a Ferrari F40. Thank you so much for coming." – Doug [92:54]
"It's beautiful that you're here." – Doug [92:56]

(And, after much laughter, the promise: quarterly Hoovie appearances on the pod!)

Transcript

[A]

Hello and welcome to this car pod. It's a very special. This car pod. Because today is my birthday. Oh. And because we have Hoovie here. Hello. It is my birthday. You got anything to say?

[B]

I had no idea. Happy birthday.

[A]

Was it really the day this pod is going. Is airing is my birthday.

[B]

I see.

[A]

Not filming, though, so you don't understand anything.

[B]

Daddy. You're getting a little older. That's funny. I've called you daddy for almost 10 years now.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I'm older than you. I'm going to turn 40 this year.

[A]

You're going to turn 40?

[C]

40.

[A]

Wow. How's that feeling? Not good.

[B]

It's falling apart. You know, I hired Ryan. We were talking about this because I used to be the prettiest guy to come on the podcast, and now, I mean, look at me.

[A]

I'm. You think you were the prettiest guy to come? I was. What about Filippo?

[B]

Oh, forget Felipe.

[A]

What about Filippo?

[B]

I know, he's unbelievable. I know.

[A]

He comes over here, he insults Nick straight away.

[C]

That's right.

[A]

Let's start with the news. I want to start with the news. Then we'll talk about all of the hoovy situations. I got questions geared specifically toward you.

[B]

Whoa.

[A]

I got. We're going to do talk cars. It's going to be a big Hoovy episode. But let's start with news. We're going to get Hoovy's takes on some car news. Hoovy doesn't do car news, so it's going to be interesting.

[B]

I don't keep up on things past

[A]

2007, so Nick and Hoovy haven't done any post 2007. I'm going to have to carry all this. Okay, the first big news story is this, which is the new Mercedes AMG GT four door coupe. I'm going to just make this clear. There's a Mercedes AMG GT Coupe, there's a Mercedes AMG GT four door, and now there's a Mercedes AMG GT four door coupe. Is this troublesome for you?

[B]

I have no idea.

[A]

This is why you stopped paying attention to cars made after 2007?

[B]

I guess so.

[A]

It's stuff like this.

[C]

It is quite the mouthful to say all those differentiators. I think the big thing here is it's all electric. Right. So we were all hoping for V8s and AMG has been talking about V8s. It's a 1153 horsepower, which sounds good, but it's all EV. The front profile is, I think, fine, it looks Mercedes. I don't love the light bar across the side to me. Looks Audi RS E Tron or Tycon. Like very similar.

[A]

Same kind of base.

[C]

The rear, though. Have you seen the rear? The re weird.

[A]

The rear is weird with the. With the circle lights.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Hub. This car's 1153 horsepower. You get any. You get.

[B]

So I assume in the sub 2 second category with like the Tycan turbo. Everything else. Okay. We vault, we have this warp barrier that everybody's passing.

[C]

Right.

[B]

And then what's next? I mean, it's just.

[A]

Well, I don't. I'm not thinking about what's next. I'm thinking about what's now.

[B]

Okay. Okay.

[A]

Well, do you ever think about getting a Taycan? They're pretty cheap used. They are.

[B]

I mean, down the road, I think they'll get there because I'm right now I'm, you know, a little bit older. So like Panamera 4s I just sold. So, you know, it has to be in that under 20 junky range. I'm same with Nick.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

But my newest car, I think the 2016AMG GTS. Love the thing.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

I thought those cars wouldn't hold up. And they're actually pretty solid motors.

[A]

Great powertrain.

[C]

Yours had a couple issues, or was that just the tuning and aftermarket stuff?

[B]

It's the rear main leak is the big problem because they're big boosted engines. So it just pours out the back. You have to drop the torque tube and all that stuff. Otherwise, like, no cylinder scoring issues. None of the, like the big, like the head bolts of the older ones, you know, that kind of stuff.

[A]

Did it catch on fire or was that only your slr?

[B]

No, no, that's. That's the slr. This is a terrible car. I couldn't wait to dump that thing.

[C]

Minor electrical fault that never actually caught on fire. As far as we can that I've sold it.

[B]

I can say back when I owned it, I said, oh, it's a minor electrical event. Like, no, this thing almost burned to the ground. I mean, it is scorched. Like it was carbon damage. I mean, it was horrible.

[C]

Part of the deal is we were going to title wash this. We were going to rewrite history. Take a page from the VIN Wiki playbook here.

[B]

That's right.

[C]

You were going to go on VIN Wiki and say, this car flawless. Flawless.

[B]

Wow.

[A]

Boy, that's interesting. That's he's throwing at Bulan under the bus. You came here and called us all ugly. Now he's calling ed bullying a cheater.

[B]

I didn't say. I mean, it's me.

[A]

Everybody's great.

[B]

We're all average looking men here. So when you hire someone like Ryan, that's above average. It's, it's, it just, it sucks for all of us.

[A]

What is all of this?

[C]

We love Ryan. Back to the electric Mercedes super sedan.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

I'm really surprised they're launching this. I know evs are the future and all that, but if you look at the, the commercial success or lack thereof of the Taycan, the RS E. Tron, literally. I mean, even the model S, the eqs.

[A]

My presumption is eqs.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Is there a successful fire in this? Far enough along in development that they just had to bring it to market? I agree with you. Brad Pitt ain't gonna save it. They had Brad Pitt at the launch.

[C]

Yeah. And Blink 182 played a live set. So like that would have been pretty cool.

[A]

We were invited to that. We were both invited. My general rule about product launches is that when I get invited, I delete the email. But this time I actually responded and said respectfully, no, it's an unusual, a gentle request.

[C]

Just forward those emails to me.

[A]

Send your representative, hang out with Johnny Lieberman and see Brad Pitt get out of a Mercedes.

[C]

I haven't seen Blink182 since 2002.

[A]

You can go see them probably. They probably tour.

[C]

I'm not going to do that, but I'll go to a Mercedes lunch with Blink182.

[A]

No, you don't want to go to this stuff.

[B]

Did they say pricing expensive? There's no official number because the EQS that I had was $120,000 new and I got it three or four years old for 30. It was insane.

[A]

They drop real fast. I don't even think they said when it's going to come out.

[C]

Yeah, there's some pieces too that are still concept car looking in there. So it's not even clear that this is coming out.

[A]

No, it'll definitely be out. It'll definitely be out. Looking sort of like this. I think this is the production one. It's got a big mouth, but that's coming. That's a big news story. Another big news story is. Oh yeah, this, this is the new. It's Brabus has their own vehicle now. You see this, this is the kind of thing we would like.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

It's got a Twin Turbo V12 and it's like a long tail.

[C]

Yeah. The longtail's actually, it's striking from the side. So Brabus always their color is black and I feel like it sort of hides a little bit how striking this is. But they revealed it at Vila d'.

[A]

Est.

[C]

Am I saying that right?

[A]

Yes.

[C]

On Lake Como. Yes.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

It is surprising even to me. So Brabus is known for mostly tuning Mercedes. They do everything from G wagons to sls. But this is actually based on the Aston Martin, including the V12 and the Aston Martin. So they must have teamed up with them. But it is truly their own vehicle and they change a lot to make it really special. Inside is like everything's quilted and carbon fiber and so on.

[A]

So I mean you can see some Mercedes Benz on the outside of this car. But like the wheels. But I, I'm not sure it must be based on.

[C]

The wheels are one off as well for them.

[A]

But this thing looks cool.

[B]

It is very cool.

[A]

It's a twin turbo V12.

[B]

I saw in the front a little bit of Mustang, a little bit of BMW 8 series. The back is, is beautiful. But whenever these tuning companies and styling companies start making their own cars, it usually runs off all the OEMs. So like pin and Farina that used to style all the cars like it cost them business.

[C]

I think it was the opposite for that.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Pininfarina. What happened was when Pininfarina got purchased by not was no longer a Italian family design company and was sold overseas, I think a lot of the automakers, particularly Ferrari, no longer wanted necessarily to maintain that relationship. And they were like, we gotta do something and we have this brand heritage. So let's, let's make it a supercar and like try to trade on the name, which is why they named it after the founder of the company. Unfortunately it has not been a success.

[B]

Well, of course, you know, this is cool.

[A]

This is an EV BS. This is a, this is a Twin Turbo V12. Yeah. Not a thousand horse. This is real. Like in the, in the age of all these dummy Vs coming out this thing, can you see yourself owning this heavily depreciated?

[B]

Sure.

[A]

77 will be made for the whole world. Probably none coming to America.

[B]

And Brabus, you know, usually with the Mercedes they're very, you know, garish, overstyle, just like tacked on things. I'm actually really impressed that I know there's restraint.

[A]

This looks good. Yes. The first good looking Brabus is one that they made the whole car.

[C]

And it's got KW coilover system, much like your Carrera gt. So. Damn. Yeah. Just for you.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

They did also get special tires made specifically for this that have like the Brabus logo on them, which I, I assume no one's gonna like. That's. You're never gonna be able to get another set, so. But it's. It's a Fairly standard size.

[B]

60 grand.

[C]

Yeah, it's like, haven't we learned do never do a special tire for a car. It just kills the resale. But I think, I think it's just an emblem on the sidewall and not

[A]

like a. I'm looking at the drive and they call it the Close. It's close to a production version of the Maybach I was ever going to get. Yeah, kind of.

[C]

They had the Accelero there next to it. Just like showcase. As well as a bunch of other really cool.

[A]

It's only 199 inches long, so it's not like insane, like some sort of Duesenberg situation. 199 is about the length of that 612, but it's pretty cool. I'm into that.

[C]

I'm. I'm glad Coach building is back and I'm glad it's not EVS anymore. Like, like that Mercedes before EVS is

[A]

what makes coach building possible. Because you don't have to. So I'm surprised to see them. But it's. This is what people want. This is what. When we all sit and think about cars, we think about.

[C]

Well, and don't you think Aston is the right company to go to because they're having trouble, like, finding their lane with all the other luxury and supercars and so they're. They're down to play ball. Like, they're just like, yeah, if I can move 77 more units, that's a huge relief to my sales team. So.

[A]

Indeed. Next news story, please. Ah, yes. You see this? Who either.

[B]

Is that A BMW.

[A]

Okay. BMW has announced that they are going to make a lightweight rear wheel drive M3Cs that is manual only. Whoa. Which is a big deal because in the past the CS cars were automatic only. It was all about, like track performance. They're manual only and I think limited specifically to the United States. Not offered overseas. Now, unfortunately, the Germans can't name stuff in German.

[C]

What happens is this, especially this name.

[A]

The Italians name stuff in Italian. And the Italian language is incredibly beautiful. So the Italians get away with naming a car the Quattroporte. It just means four door. Yes, okay. But it sounds amazing, right? That's Spanish, but we'll move on.

[B]

Yeah, whatever.

[C]

Anyway, yeah, okay, fine.

[A]

The Germans think they can get away with this also, but they can't. So they've Named this car the M3 Hanschalter. Which means I guess manual shift or hand shift or. I'm not going to dignify it.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Nonetheless, this is a manual M3Cs, manual only.

[C]

Did you get the cherry on top is it's also a rear wheel drive.

[A]

Rear wheel drive, which because we learned that it has to be the lesser powerful engine and rear wheel drive in order to work with their manual. £75 later. This is the car that if you bought one of these today and put it away in 20 years, you're not going to beat the market. But it'll sell for a half a

[C]

million, especially in a special color. That would be a collector grade.

[A]

It's a pretty cool thing. The fact that this is still happening, the fact that they're doing a manual, the fact that it's for the U.S. they see the demand. That's pretty interesting. And it's sort of like a goodbye to this generation of M3.

[B]

And is the M2Cs holding? Is it as far as like the last equivalent of this?

[A]

Yeah, the CS cars hold reasonably well. But like a really well preserved manual E90.

[B]

Okay. Does as well or better a 1M. I guess still a 1M 1M is

[A]

desirable for its own reasons separate from that. But like, oh, you know, like a regular E90M3 that's like, like a computer with a stick is probably still a better situation. The CS's have dropped maybe a little bit more, but this one will hold 108 grand. Are you gonna buy one?

[C]

No. But you know what I was just thinking, 20 years from now there'll be a bunch of guys here that look like Ryan Lopez with broccoli hair. Yeah. That are gonna. This is gonna be their golden era of car. And they're gonna be talking about what a great value.

[A]

Absolutely.

[C]

Like movie. And I don't acknowledge cars after 2010. Someone will be like, yeah, I don't acknowledge cars after like 2027. And this is their like pinnacle peak car.

[A]

I totally agree. This will be a peak, a great value. There's always.

[C]

There will be a Canon in the future that's obsessed with this as their E39.

[A]

And honestly, E39 M5 upgrade. Yeah, a lot of things are fairly similar about it.

[C]

Money aside. This are black wing for me personally.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

And goofy.

[A]

I think they're about the same money. Me personally, I, I pro. I really love the G80. I really love the G80.

[C]

So you don't like American?

[A]

I love the Blackwing though too. That's a tough call.

[B]

Kov's going American Blackwing and the Magara. The seats.

[A]

I love the G80, but I'd probably. I'd probably do a Black Wing also.

[C]

Line those two up though. I mean that's a heck of a day.

[A]

Two of the best cars on sale. Yeah, like. Like truly the best, bar none. Like not for the price. Like two of the best cars on sale. They still are delivering this special experience that very few people are still doing.

[C]

And we give BMW a really hard time for like the XM and some of their cars that are just like awful. But then they're doing stuff like this. Like, give them credit.

[A]

When I was a kid, you know, the ultimate driving machine. You remember the 2001 BMW, the era

[C]

we live in that.

[A]

That era was so special and. But there's still like a little glimmer of that that has gone away in a lot of other automakers. BMW isn't that anymore. They are primarily just a luxury brand. But there's still a little bit of this.

[B]

There's still cater to the small audience that us that exists. Yes.

[C]

It feels like a skunk work project they would do in a strip mall in Huntington Beach. You know what I mean? Like it's like a separate company doing this than the rest of their cars.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I will say when I saw the details for this, I definitely considered a little bit. Slash, I'm still considering getting one. They're pretty cool.

[C]

It's a shame it's not a wagon then. You could really.

[A]

The problem with the wagon is I need this. I need more seats now. I would have bought the M3 wagon when it first didn't come to the US but now they screwed it up.

[B]

They're late and we've accepted the grill at this point.

[A]

I never had a problem with the grill.

[B]

Really.

[A]

You hate the grill.

[B]

I know it looks like the 30s cars. I've just. I've never been able to get around the big.

[A]

I think that the grill is gonna be like all those other things. The Roadrunner with the big wing, all the stuff that the. Oh, it was stupid. And it's time. And then time goes on and people are like, you know, ban. It was kind of emblem. Well, the Bengal Butts never really aged well. But the others, okay, some of them did. Man. I saw an abandoned way Expired plates Bengal E65 yesterday just rotting, you know, on a driveway with weeds coming up. Those cars are so bad.

[C]

I. I'm somewhere in between. I've normalized the front grilles. Won't say I like them, but I no longer hate them. Like, I'm just, I'm neutral towards the

[B]

more aggressive that it's styled, I think the better it looks. So, like in a normal, like a base, you know, three series, two series, whatever. Two series, they have it, but, you know, it just doesn't look right.

[A]

I feel like the, the base cars don't have the grill.

[B]

I mean the. You know what I mean, where the more stuff's tacked onto it like this one, I think it looks better.

[A]

Yeah, for sure. That's definitely true. And this car looks cool. And I think you should get one. Someone should. Someone in our group should. Maybe Ryan Lopez. A quick message from our partner, Tire Rack. Tire shopping is one of those things most of us don't think about until we have to. And when you do, you want to feel confident you're picking the right set. That's where Tire Rack shines. You punch in your make and model like I do for my cars, and you get every tire that actually fits side by side. And this is the part I really like. You can filter by what matters to you. Wet traction, tread life, comfort, noise, price. And there are real customer reviews, real specs and Tire Rack's own test results, not some random listicle from 2014. For the Ford Sierra RS500, I'd pick the Continental ExtremeContact Sport 02 because it scored 9.4 in Tire Rack's dry traction category. And a few things worth noting. Every tire purchase comes with two years of free road hazard protection. Nails, potholes, rocks, all covered. Shipping is free and most of the country gets it next day. And you've got options on install. Ship free to a recommended installer, ship free to your house or in some areas, they'll come to you with mobile installation. It's tire buying done right. Go to tirerack.com to shop tires. Link is pinned in the comments and down in the description.

[C]

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[A]

All right, next news story. Oh this. This is the. Have you seen this? Did you read about this Nick before?

[C]

I sure did. It's a one off Ferrari meant for a wealthy customer in Austin, Texas. That's about all we know of who got it. But it is based off the F8 Spider which has been discontinued. However, it's meant to look like an F80 but with the roof cut off. So it's absolutely beautiful. I think the F80 they nailed it.

[A]

This is so cool. Ferrari is doing these one off cars

[C]

and it's a V8 non hybrid. So all the new cars are have hybrid in it. This one is not messed up with electrical which means it's going to age gracefully. It's going to be another one that the future Ryan from 20 years ago is lusting after saying this is the swan song of non hybrid V8 Ferrari.

[A]

So it's the F8's powertrain too.

[B]

How weird.

[A]

So it's the old V8.

[C]

Yeah, but I mean you're getting a one off Ferrari and it's a V8. Like I'm and it looks like that. Sign me up.

[A]

This is, it's so cool that Ferrari is doing this. These one off things, I bet they're 10 or $15 million.

[C]

Still won't put a manual in it but you know we're getting there, we're getting warm Ferrari.

[A]

You know all of the modern Ferraris are hybrid now.

[B]

All.

[A]

Yeah. I wonder if this goes down as like the last non hybrid Ferrari ever.

[C]

If dude's got like a Bachmann collection of just like cool stuff like that that will one day sell for all the money.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

You know what it reminds me of is when people were updating their Ferraris. Like when you had a 348 and you want to make it look like a 355 so you cut the side strakes off and like there's still some going down the road today. So it's the old last, old school Ferrari and from the factory they're making it look like the modern hybrid ones which is totally goofy.

[C]

It's cool though.

[A]

It's a cool idea. I can't believe they do this. Like what a cool thing. You show up with enough money at the Ferrari factory, they'll build you something.

[C]

Think, think about how many BS cars he had to buy to get that allocation.

[A]

You know what I would do?

[C]

How many Romas he has in his driveway.

[A]

You know what I would do? Purosangue long tail

[C]

hybrid only or like

[A]

ev they would do it with enough money they would do it.

[C]

Least desirable car they've ever met.

[A]

We got any other news? Land Rover and Jeep are doing something I hear. What else we got?

[C]

JLR and Stellantis are. It's so it's an MOU memorandum of understanding and it is non binding. So like basically there's no formal commitment here but they are talking about sharing their prowess because they're both such reliable steady brands. Can you imagine collaborate on cars.

[A]

Land Rover goes looking to avoid tariffs. Land Rover goes looking to help to help build some cars in the states and who do they find? Chrysler.

[B]

But this is like Gen Z broccoli heads where they talk, they're talking. They're not dating, they're not like it's

[C]

like they send a snapchat to each

[A]

other trying to figure out what's going to happen with the tariffs. But this is an unbelievable thing. How does Land Rover end up finding the Land Rover equivalent in America? The only thing that can come out

[C]

of this is problems well, maybe they'll help produce the Type 00 Jaguar that no one wants or.

[B]

Well, back in the new millennium, Land Rover thought they'd go to the warm, reliable arms of BMW at one of their low points in their liability. So here we go again. The four cylinders that are so bad in those Wranglers, are they going to end up in the. That. Oh, o. Yeah.

[A]

It's an interesting thing. I mean, who knows what'll come out of it? It does make sense. Land Rover is at an unusual disadvantage in today's world because unlike all of their rivals, they do not produce cars in the United States. And right up until the tariff situation happened, that was seen as a bit of an advantage. Like Land Rovers are still British, even though they're building the defenders in Slovakia. They don't talk about that. The VIN still starts with S. They're still British. Well, now it's become a real liability. Porsche and Land Rover have this difficulty that they've so associated with their home country. Now it's a problem going to show up with and they're going to build Land Rover Jeeps and it's going to be a real.

[B]

Another problem.

[C]

That's a pretty good theory, actually, that it's a tariff workaround.

[A]

Maybe they're going to bring back the NAS Defender 90.

[C]

I doubt it. It's called. It's called the NAS Grenadier and it's not very successful.

[B]

So back in the day, they never made defenders in different continents. Like the G Wagon got built in different places.

[A]

They made some defenders in South Africa for a very short time, but I think every Defender up until the Slovakian one was built in the uk. I'm pretty sure Nick is a Landover man. Why doesn't he educate us a little?

[C]

I don't know. New ones.

[A]

Nick's never.

[C]

We're going to talk about P38s later because I have a bone to pick and then we'll get into it then.

[A]

Boy, these three cars are like J.D. power vehicle dependability study the bottom three, right? It's like literally a picture of the podium of the low 3 finish of VDS. Although actually the new Defender is the most reliable new Land Rover and it looks good. Well, that's one take anyway. We got more news. What else we got? VW id buzz.id buzz took 26 model year off because they needed a clear inventory. It's back for 27.

[C]

But they've got a genius fix to solve that sales slump.

[A]

The genius fix is they're adding a pop top bed situation or maybe it's not a pop top, just a bed situation.

[B]

The roof doesn't come up. There's no way they would have done that.

[A]

You know what's wild? This is the Eurovan. This Eurovan all over again.

[C]

I mean, I think they're going for that.

[A]

They're like, oh, man, we can't compete on a regular van. Let's do a Westphalia ver version. Let's do a Camper version. This is that all over again. You must be thinking about getting a 90.

[B]

Buzz the appreciation. You sold one, I think, or has it been two now on cars and bits and it was 30s for.

[A]

Dude, have you gone on autotrader? There are dealers offering them for 30 off. It's new. Brand new.

[C]

Yeah, right.

[B]

Yeah, ideally.

[C]

Although that's arguably where it should have been priced all along. Of course, they came in a little hot.

[A]

Well, that's what happens. I mean, any new car that sells at X discount, that should have been the price.

[C]

That's the market correct.

[A]

That's market correct.

[C]

They have not announced pricing for 27 yet. I mean, people assume it'll be roughly the same, but I think it is the coolest car on the market.

[A]

There has never been a greater disconnect between coolness and sales failure. Like, it's crazy to me, but it's overpriced. It's not particularly practical. It's too big, too long. The segment, it was the wrong demo they went after.

[B]

You're missing the range part.

[A]

Range is an issue.

[B]

Well, and not only that, it's like the older Tesla's, because I have the old Model X. That's before the battery heating and all that stuff, which is the same with this, is the same battery size, about the same range as the old Model X. And in the winter, without this heating, it is atrocious. It's 200 miles, really. It's 100 miles in the winter. It's not a practical car.

[A]

It's not a practical car. And it's not a practical car. Even for families. It's way too expensive to buy. They did not do all these family solutions like the Odyssey has with seats that slide and cup holders. It's lacking all these cup holders, but it's pretty cool.

[B]

It's really cool. Yeah.

[A]

You want one?

[C]

Oh, I definitely do.

[A]

He lives in Encinitas, the Volkswagen bus capital of the world.

[C]

Yeah, yeah.

[A]

No, the only place they're selling these things.

[C]

But. But at 70, that's where it's like, okay, it's a fun novelty toy that I maybe use periodically. It Gets to be a tough sell. Yeah. Which is always what about 38? 38. And have a conversation.

[A]

Have the conversation. They're there.

[C]

Unfortunately, the conversation is with my wife and not with the dealer.

[A]

I think she'd want one. I think this is the coolest thing in the world.

[C]

Maybe I don't know if we're ready for an EV and like all this plugging things in, you know.

[B]

Well, it's Encinitas, so it wouldn't make the trip down and back.

[C]

Yeah, I don't know if I have enough range to come to dinner.

[A]

All right, now, next. Is that it? That's the end. That's the end of our news. We got a lot to discuss today in the. Forgot to move on to the talk car segment. The talk car segment, unbelievably, is brought to you by the QI channel, which is Cars and Bids. Have you seen the key videos?

[B]

So beautiful, beautiful, high quality videos.

[A]

But most importantly, Zinger. You know, Zinger, they have these crazy supercars.

[C]

You know this.

[A]

It's incredible. They're incredible. They have this chassis that was designed by AI and so it looks like a human skeleton because like, instead of like square things that. Because that's what manufacturing does. I've never seen anything like it before. It is one of the coolest things I've ever seen in my life. And I don't get into these like one off supercar things.

[B]

So it's like a 3D printed chassis that looks like human musculature. I think I've seen.

[A]

You don't know how I'm not connected

[C]

to this whole situation.

[A]

Pull up a Zinger chassis. This is the.

[C]

Seriously, Ryan's DJing.

[A]

This the coolest thing I've ever seen, in my opinion.

[C]

Ryan, close your other tabs just in case, you know, you've got tabs you shouldn't have open.

[A]

Type in chassis, Ryan.

[B]

Yes, I have seen a few photos of this and it is very.

[A]

But type in chassis so we can get a tight shot. So chassis.

[C]

At the Quail, one of the engineers sat down next to me and he was describing this based on AI and I was like, this is the craziest thing I've ever heard. And it sounds like a total failure.

[A]

But can you zoom in on this picture? I guess. Well, it'll be there for the audience to see.

[B]

Oh, Bobby.

[A]

Oh, wow. We're gonna actually do it instead of just zoom in. That's just insane. I never thought that was gonna happen.

[C]

Oh, it's a Miller Motor Cars post.

[A]

Just zoom in on your Trackpad, and

[B]

it's gonna be a 2. It's gonna be a 200 kilobyte photo or whatever.

[A]

Oh, my God. Anyway, you see that? You see that? It, like, looks like human. It's crazy. I really think we're gonna look back on this car as, like, the end of, like, right angles and stuff. When this stuff was optimized, they claim they've, like, used logarithmic technology to optimize it for, like, all the. The actual strength and stuff. Anyway, it's incred. It's the coolest singer I've seen my entire life. Ryan Lopez got to drive one.

[B]

Wow. Are you. I'm in. I'm. Is it live now?

[A]

Is it live now? It is.

[B]

Pause and watch it. Okay.

[A]

Are you a little nervous about Ryan Lopez?

[C]

I. I am a little. You know, it's a lot of power for such a young boy.

[B]

Oh, no. I started this. I'm so sorry.

[A]

Store parked it outside a bikini store. Oh, my God. All right, well, I can't wait to see that Ryan Lopez video with a zinger. Anyway, that's the sponsor of today's talk cars segment, but there's a lot of talk cars to discuss, including. The reason that Hoovy is here, I think, is because you're promoting the cars that you're auctioning on Cars and Bits.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

Can you pull up the hoo.

[B]

I desperately need some money. Please.

[A]

Can we start with this? All right, so the Hoovy's got four cars live right now. Go bid on them. Buy the cars.

[B]

Three more coming.

[A]

Three more coming. What are the. What are the next three?

[B]

I don't remember. The V38 Range Rover, my box 62.

[A]

We got some sort of old car. No one knows. We got a 911 Carrera. Yes. Can we talk about this Cadillac? Yeah, pull up the Cadillac.

[B]

Sure.

[C]

Did you watch Breaking Bad? I never watched Breaking Bad, so that's not gonna have any significance to you.

[A]

No. I'm looking at this thing, and I'm like, what is this?

[B]

Dusty, old.

[C]

Literally, everyone else on the planet watch Breaking Bad and will resonate with that.

[B]

It's a big deal because this car was used in the climactic, like, final battle. So he's taken out a whole, like, team, like a whole mob boss family.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And because he mounted a machine gun in the back with a remote, and it also.

[A]

He's driving this that Bryan Cranston is driving.

[B]

Yes. He drives it to. In the last episode to the last place where he actually is killed by this as well. Like, A stray bullet actually gets him. So this car is the car, like as far as, like if you're gonna have. Other than the Aztek, obviously, this is probably the one to have if you love Breaking Bad.

[A]

You ever trekked on that Azte?

[B]

I'm not, I don't know where the Aztec is.

[A]

So this is your, this is the card. Breaking Bad car. Can we talk? Since we're on Breaking Bad, can we talk about Car wizard moving to New Mexico and that's something. Yes, Car Wizard's moving to New Mexico, to Las Cruces. No offense to our viewers in Las Cruces, but I've been through there a few times.

[B]

It is heartbreaking and I thought it was going to be a little bit more of a gradual thing.

[A]

The movie, ladies and gentlemen, has just indicated that Las Cruces, New Mexico is heartbreaking.

[B]

This is an 18 year relationship, me and wizard, starting from Mercedes diesels and being like within 30 miles of each other on a forum. Going from me having a dealership to him opening a mechanic shop to the YouTube. He is just very tired of Newton, Kansas and Winters and he's worked really hard his entire life. I mean and he's just, he's ready for a slowdown. He's not old though, he's late 40s. But the dude's had a lot of city miles. I mean he's had, he worked as a prison guard, he worked in machine shops mechanicking forever. I mean it's just harder on somebody. And he's gonna continue doing his sh. Hire a mechanic down in Las Cruces and still make his videos. But he's just looking for a slower pace and warmer weather and he's left me in the dust.

[C]

Newton, Kansas is too fast paced.

[B]

I've got one more month with him and then I'm taking over.

[C]

That's Las Cruces new tagline. Slower pace than Newton, Kansas I guess.

[A]

So I am looking at the climate data here for Las Cruces and it is an upgrade from Wichita. It's hot in the summer it looks like, but they're nice winters.

[B]

He's got a beautiful home, a mountain view and pool.

[A]

He's got a pool?

[B]

Yes.

[A]

Sam, can you imagine wizard after a long day at the shop? Is he still gonna do shop out there? Yes, he's gonna make a new shop. A long day at the shop, he gets in his pool, looks at the mountains.

[C]

I was just watching, he did a video on the white silver seraph that Hoovy had and sold to him for store credit. Fixed it, he was able to do what I was never able to do with my own house. The dude is a national treasure.

[A]

So he just decided to leave. When did he start breaking the news that he was going to be leaving?

[B]

It's been years, honestly.

[A]

Oh. He's been talking about it for a

[B]

long time and he's just been. Every place that he would travel to, he's like, I want to live here. Like every single place.

[A]

And he look, if, if Las Cruces ended up being the place, I'm curious, what other places did he, did he travel to?

[B]

Northern California, like Monterey area. He liked that a lot. Phoenix. Scottsdale was one. Yeah, briefly. 30A area. Amelia Island, Florida. But then he's like the Florida people, you know, kind of like we are. Yeah. And then, you know, and then it sort of. He went to Las Cruces on a random thing and that was it. The next visit, they bought a house and it's like, okay, the next five years we're gonna go. And then within a year he's like,

[A]

I gotta get out of Kansas. Wow.

[B]

It's heartbreaking. But I mean, obviously I've been doing the same thing for many years on my YouTube channel. As far as, you know, buy the car, take the wizard. He tells me how dumb I am. He beats me over the head of the bill. So now it's gonna force a change in my content.

[A]

Well, I got a couple questions.

[C]

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[A]

I got a couple questions. Number one. Wizards out. We're all sitting here. I'm not trying to. We're here. You know what I'm saying? You kind of getting where I'm going with this?

[B]

You want me to move to San Diego?

[A]

I'm wondering, like, you know, what are we doing in Wichita still?

[B]

I love Wichita.

[A]

Okay. Okay. And that's great. Interstate 35 corridor. There's a lot of good stuff.

[B]

Yes, but where am I gonna get five acres in a 6,000 square foot building that's air conditioned and, and all this stuff and be in a good area, not like 30 miles out of town?

[A]

A lot of people say you get a smaller plot of land, you get a smaller house, but you get to live near Crazy Nick or Cheapskate Nick, as you call it. Do you think that's a good trade off? I think it's a good trade off.

[B]

What's your rent on this garage? Cause that's about the size I would need to hold all my stuff. 6, 900amonth, 80, 90,000amonth maybe. Right?

[A]

No, listen, I understand that maybe San Diego isn't necessarily the place for you, but what about Chula Vill?

[C]

Yeah. Ramona. Ramona, you can get some El Cajone.

[A]

Yeah. What I'm saying to you is. What I'm saying to you is I think we all agree that the one thing keeping you in Wichita was Carwizard. It certainly isn't April. April is a city girl.

[B]

Chicago.

[A]

She was from Chicago. She lived the fast life.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

And

[B]

I have children in Kansas. I have family.

[A]

Okay, let's talk about that. How old are the children?

[B]

They are 13 and 6.

[A]

6. Okay. So 10 years young child is going to be probably off somewhere else. I can't imagine your children stay in Kansas.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Am I wrong about that? It's possible they're gonna go to college and even then they're not gonna stay in Wichita. They're not gonna go to Wichita State.

[B]

Not everybody's you. There's. Think how many people in your high school class in Colorado are still probably in Colorado.

[A]

Well, but Colorado is like a cool place that people wanna be.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

And you know what I mean?

[B]

I guess.

[A]

So your kids are gonna be like, ah, you know dad, I think I wanna move to San Diego. And then what are you gonna do?

[B]

Or they're going to be like, wow, this is the only place I can afford to live is Kansas. Because the cost of living everywhere else is just insane.

[A]

You know where else they could live? Las Cruces. What if they move there?

[B]

I guess so. I, I'm very happy with, with Phoenix. Scottsdale. We have a lot of work there, so we got a little place.

[A]

April, is it possible that that may become more of a full time situation?

[B]

It is possible. And it was a short five hour drive to get here, which was a very nice drive. And it's a very car central kind of, of type of town and there's a lot of nice things, a lot of nice restaurants, a lot of things to do. It gets very hot in the summer. Obviously that's, that's the downside.

[A]

But a lot of people in Phoenix in the summer, you know where they go? Chula Vista, San Diego. Okay, look, all I'm saying is we want you here. Do you, do you want. Why don't you get in on this?

[C]

You're doing, you're doing a great job of being pushy.

[B]

It's just a matter of, of an invite, I suppose. Like I don't mind the, the Arizona thing and then driving out like this is really pleasant. So whenever you want. I'm fine. I don't have to be here here Pimping my stuff with my pimp Cadillac

[A]

here to show up already in Scottsdale.

[B]

It was 80s, low 90s, so not terrible.

[C]

Yet you get used to it.

[A]

Do you agree? He said Hades? Yeah, I understand the implication, yes. Okay, so this Cadillac, this Breaking Bad Cadillac you're selling, that's pretty cool, Nick. You throwing in a bit or two?

[C]

Not on this one, but there are a few hoovy specials. So the Maybach 62 he tried to dump on me at one point.

[B]

It wasn't a dump dunk. Told you not to buy it or whatever.

[A]

No, I absolutely begged him to buy it. Quite the opposite, my friend.

[C]

I'm into it. And actually, I think the price you offered it to me for is less than it will sell on the site.

[B]

We'll see what happens. Because currently there's what, six days to go and apparently 25ish. Is that right?

[A]

Where did you find this, like, country estate to shoot these photos?

[B]

Oh, you know, that's what you get for Kansas, you know, Looks correct. You know, that's my. That's my driveway. My circle driveway.

[A]

This is your driveway, indeed. Oh, my God. Let's move to Witto. You know what? Let's stop trying to convince him to move to California. Let's move to Wichita.

[C]

We could all go around his pond and then kind of have, like, views of each other, like a little hippie comedy.

[A]

That would be great.

[B]

You could all have estates for whatever. You know, your little homes here in San Diego.

[A]

Nick. Just Nick. I will let you. I will have you know that Nick has the largest floor plan in his community.

[B]

Wow.

[C]

Something Doug is more proud of than I am.

[A]

But he told this to us once, bragging.

[B]

It's 2,800 square feet, everybody.

[A]

Don't you brag at the. At the community mailbox every morning. You know, I got. I actually. I'm 28. 40, 46.

[C]

You don't brag. You just walk a little bit more upright, you know, like it's. It's just a subconscious vibe.

[A]

So this is a V12?

[C]

Yes.

[A]

Why are we selling this?

[C]

It's got the partition.

[A]

Yeah, I know.

[B]

That's the big deal. Which, yeah, we should probably put partition up in the title because that's a big value add. Also a big reason why a lot of the partition cars leave the country. So it can end up with some dictator, you know, getting driven around in. In, you know, interesting.

[A]

So this one's always. This one's always.

[C]

It's only got, like, 100,000 miles.

[B]

That's the downside. So I bought it.

[A]

Looks like a Texas window sticker there.

[B]

Yeah. So I bought it at auction in Houston and it was a guy who owned a chain of liquor stores and he was driven this into his chain of liquor stores. I don't know if he was sampling the products why I need to be driven. That's why it had the miles. But he took it to the dealer for everything. Like it was kept up. And so this thing like it'll sit for a month and that's the reason why I'm selling it is like for the past year nothing. It hasn't moved like April. You don't use it. April tore her ACL when we were skiing and I basically chauffeured her in that for months. And that was the last time it got used because she could recline in the back and stretch her legs out.

[A]

What's the reason? Know you that it's too big to be practical.

[B]

It's so the, the partition for me at six foot three, it's hard to get comfortable in that cuz the, the wall's right there.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So for as far as for daily driving any partition car. But it's, it's not bad. I, I, I daily drove the thing forever. Took it to California. And then you took the boxes after a while.

[A]

You going to toss a bit in.

[C]

Thing's huge.

[A]

What's the problem with that?

[C]

Well, I don't got a lot of space. I know with some of us don't live in Las Cruces.

[A]

You know what your real problem would be? Seriously. It would probably mess up your driveway. How heavy is this car?

[B]

Oh, it fits heavy.

[A]

But it's £10,000.

[B]

No. No. Is it seven?

[C]

It's got to be lighter than most EVs.

[B]

It, it's. But it's a real Maybach. That's the thing. It's. It's not a rebadged something else.

[C]

This is. And when these cars came out, I found the styling to be so underwhelming. And now I look at that and I'm just like holy crap. Like that is just such a. It's so subtle but noticeable.

[A]

Especially the long ones. I still find the 57s to be underwhelming. The long ones have this.

[C]

The presence is insane.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

Yeah. But it was, it's almost kind of an fu. Also like. Yeah. Like I've chosen not to be in a Phantom and have that instead. I've got this sort of more subtle flex.

[B]

It was $450,000.

[A]

That was the big 450 in 2006 or whatever.

[B]

This is a four.

[A]

This is a $750,000 car in today's money. I mean it's wild.

[C]

It ain't got a clue for that, that's for sure.

[B]

And the S class got redesigned and they did a great job with that redesign. So you had these two sitting next to each other and it was just like the new S class. So cool looking. This looks like the older S class. So nobody bought it obviously in the recession.

[A]

They came out, they had the wheels from the old S Class, the same design. The design was fairly similar. And then the mistake they made of course was that 07s class, they kind of made it look like this, the rear end and all that, except better, honestly.

[B]

Yes. And then same with the electronics on the inside. The 07 update was what this had all the older, older pixels and like the cluster stereo and all that stuff.

[A]

So it just looked been in one of these. No, there's wood. There's like the, the steering wheel buttons are wood.

[B]

Rippled wood.

[A]

The steering wheel buttons are wood. It's insane.

[C]

It's funny because the, the, the like if you're 10ft away, it still looks like an S class.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

But then the closer you get, the more changes you notice.

[B]

Yep.

[C]

So look at the alcantara on the side of the seat.

[B]

Why There are some big money 62. If it's an S partition it can be a quarter million dollar car.

[A]

Really.

[B]

They if in low mileage there's been some, some 10,000 mile cars that have sold for that much. So it, this one OB 1007000 miles. It's not going to be. I'd love it to be a six figure car but it's, it's not going to be. That's, that's the thing if you want to use it but the partition thing. So if it's going to end up with a African warlord or something like that, it'll be fun but you know that's where a lot of them end up.

[A]

It might go back to the rest of the hoovy cars. We got this Packard, we don't need to get into that. And then what's wrong with the Packard?

[B]

I know you don't like the older stuff as much.

[C]

The Packard was the other one with the electrical incident paint.

[A]

This isn't old, very old car.

[B]

This car's 100 years old.

[C]

Movie.

[B]

It's original.

[A]

Are you driving this thing around?

[B]

I've driven it a little bit but it's had a thermal incident similar to the SLR McLaren that I had to fix the wiring. So it had a small thermal incident. So it got reworked.

[A]

But why you got a 997?

[B]

So the 997. Unfortunately I got scammed on this one pretty bad. So full disclosure, this thing has a clean carfax.

[A]

Is that a Massachusetts license plate?

[B]

Yes, it came from Massachusetts.

[A]

You never titled it.

[B]

I got an email from a fan. Well, I have a dealer's license because it would be crazy. A Boston Whaler dealer emailed me and said hey, I got this 997 on trade. I put 200 miles on it, changed oil. It seems good. You want it? Well, they sent me some pictures as the paint's fading, but engine seems fine. I said sure. Okay. I buy it for about 25,000. Shipped to my door. I started up. It is billowing smoke out the back cylinder scored. You know it's 30 grand. No, I didn't even. I don't even mess with.

[C]

He just left a few passive aggressive comments on YouTube.

[B]

But I don't. I know. I mean because it's truly. If he's a boat dealer, he may not know. But I mean every single light was on, the suspension's messed up, the brakes.

[A]

Oh, he got traded it on a boat. I see.

[B]

Correct.

[C]

Imagine doing that. Be like will you take a beat997 on a whaler.

[A]

Boats on cars. I'm sure this happened in Kansas. People trade boats and RVs on cars all day. I mean not constantly but in certain parts of the country. In Minnesota you expect to get ATVs

[C]

offered all that stuff.

[B]

So the car was her estimate to fix this car car $56,000. And that's before cosmetics. Cuz this thing needs a repaint and the bumper's hanging off and all that stuff. 56 a new motor, a rebuilt motor is about 30 grand on these things. So I, you know I'm going to lose, I'm sure thousands on it. But the thing is you're selling it.

[C]

Have you fix it or no, no.

[B]

That's the thing. This is, this is because it's a no hit car. It can be somebody's track beater. They can do the l swap thing. They can. There's okay swaps, there's all these things but they could, they could make. Because it's not a hit car. It could be a really good track car. Or if somebody wants to be the first person to 997, you know, Tinker in their garage and Porsche people are so nuts. Like I've seen their cylinder scored 997s. There's one recently in 084s at a different auction site and it sold for 44,000 with cylinder scoring needing a 30 grand engine. Re like that's how crazy Porsche people are.

[A]

Did you say there are K swaps?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

People are doing that in these.

[B]

Yes. And. And the Audi, another one is like the Audi 2.7 turbos. Really popular. Really popular.

[C]

Yeah. Good luck with them up. Water pump goes out.

[A]

So what's it at right now? What do you expect this to go to?

[B]

It's at 15.

[A]

I mean it can't be much higher than that.

[B]

Probably not. I. Probably not. So I'm going to lose, I imagine. Yeah. Over five grand on this thing. And yeah, it just. It sucks. Cuz I hadn't bought a 911 in a long time and so it is what it is. I made sure. I went through the video and I made sure I got everything because it's probably the longest list of disclosures. It's probably the worst 997 you guys have ever had in yourself. But it's. It obviously it's disclosed that way.

[A]

There's a market for it in the industry. We say there's a butt for every seat. There's a butt for every seat. Someone will want it for the exact purposes that you describe.

[C]

I. I did off camera. Filippo offered to buy your wheels off you from that if. If you don't want it.

[B]

They're cheap.

[C]

I'll trade for some gunmetal ones.

[B]

These are.

[A]

These are DOT one wheels.

[C]

Yeah, I know, but they would look better.

[A]

They would look better with what he's got now. Yeah. Can we talk about why there is a fire sale? You know, every year around this time we.

[C]

Why is it around this time we

[B]

get all excited and it was usually before April 15th. We do.

[C]

It's mid April.

[A]

Because usually Hoovy gets into a situation where he can't pay his taxes and he's got to sell a bunch of cars. And you know, he says that I make fun of him for it. But I was thinking about it today when I was shooting that RX7. Really it's just an alternate savings account. Like what do I do when it's tax time? I take some money on my savings account and pay the irs. What does he do? He sells some cars. Pay the irs. It's the same basic principle.

[B]

And the vehicles are a vessel for content that make money.

[A]

So when you say I make fun of you, I don't think it's. I just think it's kind of Interesting that, you know, we're not, as the year goes on, we're not kind of budgeting, but in a way, you are.

[B]

It is. Normally it wasn't an issue and I would pay my quarter lease. It was just home renovation got out of control before, and that. That smoked me. And then I made a mistake on my taxes with the Veyron, where I structured it as a lease. So when I traded the Countach towards it, I thought I could roll in all that money onto the Veyron because it's a lease. I could only write off a quarter of that trade in a year. So even though I sold the Countach for a bunch of money, hundreds of thousands of. I had to pay the capital gains on it, even though I got no money. It's a complicated tax thing, but. So that was like the surprise extra $150,000 for the gains because I was zero into the Countach because I bought it with the Diablo, so. The Diablo. So that was like a. Oh, crap. The year before that it was home. The last year it was the mistake with the taxes. So this year I had it all figured out.

[A]

Can I stop you real quick? Go back before you get into this? You are. You're taking. You're taking capital gains on these companies. Cars. Yes. You're declaring that? Come on. You. Yes, you. Freddy is not declaring capital gains on car.

[B]

Well, I imagine most people aren't, but I. I'm.

[A]

Am I wrong?

[C]

No comment. I incriminate myself enough.

[B]

No. On that. Where I sell a car for whatever it was close to and I had zero into it. Because I, like you think that you would let that. You would let that go and risk it. Me?

[A]

No. Okay, you. I'm truly astonished. What's the IRS looking at? State registration records.

[C]

Do you know what they do if they catch you for tax evasion in Kansas? They ship you to La Cruces, New Mexico.

[A]

Are you implying the car wizard is a tax evader?

[C]

Nice thing.

[B]

I can't spend 90 days in a white collar prison. Like it's not worth it.

[C]

Look at that face.

[A]

No.

[C]

Although now that you're not as handsome as you used to be, maybe that's true.

[B]

I'm aging badly now.

[C]

Ryan Lopez in prison.

[B]

Now that would be impressive. That would be terrible. Terrible.

[A]

Okay, so anyway, so because of that, so you. But this year. So those were tough tax years.

[B]

This year. This year, I. I mean, it cleaned me out, but I made it. I did not need to do the April, you know, dump everything. But I. I'm. I was Good.

[A]

Which upset us here at Cars and Bids for two reasons. Number one, we rely on a steady stream of no reserve cars from Hoovy to pay our bills in April.

[C]

Yes.

[B]

Except I didn't do it last year. And then the guy, you know, flipped that Eldo rod which you gave me hell for, you know, so I sold an Eldorad for 15 grand and guy sold it for. Flipped it for 50 something thousand dollars. So.

[A]

So yes, I honestly and truly believe that if that dude, the Geneva Motor Cars Guide sold it with us and I did a video, he would have gotten even more. I think he probably would have gotten 67. Well it's possible I would have hammed it up in that video. Cuz that was to me those things are so cool. Concept car. Anyway, so we didn't get the, the, the tax time this year, but we are getting it anyway.

[B]

You're getting it anyway because yeah, I get all of my responsibility ducks in a row and then blow the gullwing motor on the way to the gorge.

[A]

So look, I want to talk about the gulling motor blowing and I want to address something that has been brought up in comments. You have seemed to be a little reticent to bring it up in the videos. And I want to talk about the Mercedes Benz Classic Center.

[B]

Okay.

[C]

I knew that's where it was going.

[A]

So Mercedes Benz, our favorite auto brand.

[B]

Yes, agree.

[A]

Oh wow. You're gonna go, I'm on the wagon.

[B]

He's got the Lego swap wagon. It's awesome.

[A]

And the fire damage slr.

[B]

Yeah, yeah. Scorched.

[A]

Mercedes Benz blown fuse. Unlike a lot of other automakers such as Audi, which is Nick's favorite brand, Audi doesn't have any parts for their old cars. It's impossible to get anything done correct. Mercedes Benz has this classic center where you bring them a car and they will fix literally anything. Except for the two years where they did the radar keys which I have in my G wagon and you took in there. But they're especially known for their Gullwings restorations. Like people bring like they're in Long beach and there are Long beach locals who will like bring them an S class to do like regular work. Because the Classic center stamp on the receipt is really a big deal. But they mostly do gullwings. I went in there, there were like 12 gullwings.

[B]

Right. So I, they opened up this in the United States in 2006 or 7. It was in Irvine at first, right by my. My grandparents lived in Costa Mesa. So I just go in there and drool. Oh my God. So they moved to Long beach to the, the old kind of airport area. And it's at a big warehouse where Mercedes has their cars coming in. And it's an amazing facility. Amazing facility.

[A]

Incredible facility. Beautiful facility with beautiful cars.

[B]

Right.

[A]

It is interesting to me though. You're looking at me like what's he going to say? You're not thinking this, this isn't in your mind. How much did you drop at the Mercedes Benz Classic center on this vehicle a year ago?

[B]

Six months ago they were very kind to me and offered a discount in exchange for the content. But it was, it was close to not quite six figures.

[A]

You spent six figures on that car when you bought it?

[B]

Well, no, I'm spending well seven on the car.

[A]

And that was when, when we had that 993,300sl meet on the highway randomly that I was, I just bought the 993. So it was October I think. So that's if I'm doing my math, seven months you spent 100 grand and now the engine's blown.

[B]

Right.

[A]

I'm just laying out the facts. I'm like Joe Rogan. I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just asking questions, man.

[B]

So when, when they woke up the Engine after its 10 year slumber, the compression was a little borderline, the oil consumption was somewhat high. It is an older engine. They were like, hey, let's drive it, see if it comes back a little bit. Because it's been sitting for a while. But it was always like a meh. You might get a few more years out of this thing.

[A]

Oh really?

[B]

So this was known the fuel system needed to be completely think of a car, any old car. The Mercedes fuel system on these things is direct injection. It is very complicated and weird and that all needed to be, be fixed and brought back to life.

[A]

So that's, they do that stuff. That is what they are good at.

[B]

The drums, the brakes, 30 grand, they were out of spec. So that, that was the thing that was nice for them to give me the drums and then I go and burn up the drums that I had just replaced on a rally. Cuz I left the handbrake on for like 30 miles.

[A]

You remember that?

[C]

Yep.

[A]

I think about that all the time.

[B]

So I had to, I've done it too.

[C]

Thankfully never on a car of that value.

[B]

I had to spend for the two drums. So I had to buy that. That was on me. So you know, and there was, there was a lot of things that needed to Be, be done. Also the rear main was pouring on it. The transmission needed to come out to be resealed. They had not done that yet. But I mean there's just, just think of a car that's, that's, it's, it was restored probably in the 80s but then sat for a decade. So it just needed to like do everything.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And I don't think it was unreasonable given their facilities and, and everything else and, and they actually took care of me and so no, this wasn't their fault.

[A]

Interesting at all. That's interesting color and I appreciate hearing that. That actually, actually redeems them in my mind. Except I noticed the car is not back at the Classic Center. So now the engine has blown. We need a new bottom end or top end or both. God knows.

[B]

Right.

[A]

But you didn't take it back there.

[B]

How come? Because they do not do the machining and the actual rebuilding there. They will take the engine out, they will take it apart, they will, you know, put it back in and tune it and do all that stuff. But they don't. So they used to send it to I think an outfit called Metric Motors, very well known Mercedes rebuilder. They don't do the Gullwings engines anymore. The current outfit I think is called, called Ed Pink and they build the Singer engines. They are in California. I guess they are the best of the best. It makes sense why Mercedes to them. But they are probably the most expensive engine building machine shop in the country. And this is an older car from the 50s. As principle, rebuilding the engine is not difficult. So I could tell them classic. Hey, take the engine out for me. Send it to a cheaper machine shop. No, it's better to have one shop handle it. And this is what, where our friend at DC Motorworks, DC Motor Works has

[A]

a machine shop and they'll do this stuff.

[B]

So he's very close to his machinist and they're going to. So they'll send it off to the machinist but then they'll build it themselves. They have one tech that has experience with gull wings and it just in this, in this instance, I think it makes sense to do it this way because it's not classic center. They would help me out but they're outsourcing the rebuild to a different shop.

[A]

Could we be thinking of DC Motorworks as an alternative classic center? Let me to refer DC Motorworks rebuilding Gold Wing Motors, putting manuals in E55s. Are they better than the Classic Center?

[C]

Well, I think the, the facts you laid out earlier Would. Would maybe make it seem that, like, if you pay up for the Classic center and you may still have issues. I mean, it's old car stuff.

[A]

If you took your E55 wagon to the Classic center, put a manual, they'd

[C]

say, no, no, I don't think they would do that.

[A]

We don't do that. No, we don't do manuals any. You take a DC motorist, put a manual, oh, yeah, let's pull a manual out of a C200.

[C]

Those guys, they. They will do anything you ask. I said, I want a third row. They literally went on Facebook Marketplace that night, bought a car, took it in, swapped it out, and then sold the donor car. Like, they did all of that for you as a service.

[B]

But D.C. is classic center.

[C]

Ain't going on Facebook Marketplace for you.

[B]

Actually, actually, they did a funny story that. So when they were talking about Made in America, all that stuff we were talking about earlier, they wanted to show that Mercedes builds cars in America. America. And they were going to do a big thing about the anniversary of the ML. So Mercedes goes to US Classic and said, we need to find an ML a nice one.

[C]

Facebook Marketplace is the right place for that.

[B]

So they actually went on Marketplace in California and found an ML to buy, to ship to, you know, to Alabama for the big press release. It was like, yeah, we've been building in America forever. You know, the political climate currently. So they actually have done that a little bit.

[C]

That's amazing.

[B]

And DC Motor Work Works is getting the parts from the Classic Center. All the stuff, the piston rings, all the things like it is coming from there. They're making the parts.

[A]

And this is the coolest thing about Mercedes Benz and one of the big reasons why I still am a big fan of owning old ones. All these parts are available. Yeah, you can get them.

[C]

And that Mercedes is willing to sell the parts to others. So, like Matt Armstrong and this whole Veyron as well as Chiron rebuilds. Bugatti won't even sell you the parts if you wanted to install them yourself. So that Mercedes is like, yeah, indie shop in Atlanta, no problem. You go, yeah, thank you for your business. Which is how they should be doing.

[A]

Totally. Obviously. That's really cool. Love that Mercedes Benz models and Porsches are still supported that way. And honestly, our friend, the Countach.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

You miss yours?

[B]

No, I. I had my fun. Doug, we. You talked about this in your video, how you wouldn't keep things forever. I had it for four plus years. I did everything I wanted to do.

[A]

Four plus years.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Damn.

[C]

Not. Not the fanboy. I love the new content direction you have have where you've gotten back to your roots of hoopies out of necessity. You don't really own other than the gullwing any supercars at the moment. Is that fair?

[B]

AMG GTS borderline and the Lotus Esprit V8 when that thing's going amazing car

[C]

hoopies as you bought them or at least rough around the edges. They weren't like a Countach.

[B]

I think the Esprit V8 will scratch the issue of the Countach very closely and be slightly more comfortable.

[A]

I think that car is a very good like bargain Countach replacement kind of thing. The design like I think so many things about that car are so cool. And the V8 the turbo ones are really a lot of fun. The late cars.

[C]

And this is yellow. It's the roadster version with no roof like it's the one you want.

[B]

Well it's permanent. I found a roof for it. But yes.

[A]

Do you. What are you going to do after wizard goes?

[B]

So this isn't quite announced yet but it looks like we're going to be taking over his shop.

[A]

You are.

[B]

His mechanics are staying in place.

[C]

Wow.

[B]

I might be making a go of some kind of dealership again to offset to make sure the mechanic shop is busy and hopefully pay the rent to where this might actually be an enterprise that is isn't like a. A multiple six figure Hubby's garage is

[C]

going to become an actual garage. Like I could send my P38 there and you would do an oil change.

[B]

Yep. Yep.

[C]

Would you go on Facebook marketplace for me?

[B]

This. This is this. We are in the the idea phase and it's fleshed out and actually there's a business plan that somewhat makes sense. So it's very likely.

[A]

What do you mean you're thinking about doing a dealership again? You can't sell cars.

[B]

Well I can't sell them four right now.

[A]

7.

[B]

Look what I can do. I can. I can put them on cars and bids.

[A]

Hoovy you you're being busy.

[B]

Well I have.

[C]

He's already got dealer place.

[B]

You have Kenan that reps cars for people all the time. So like. Like there we'll have a couple people in there that could rep the cars. I can pop in for this.

[A]

Don't you think you're going to get a ton of Internet time wasters? Just.

[B]

Of course. But then so does the car wizard. Car wizard has over a million subscribers at this point. He has a Google your phone call up at any time, kind of business phone line, he has somebody that answers the phone. That is his full time job to basically like, I want to talk to the car wizard. And car wizards. Wizard used to say, 15 minutes to talk on the phone, talk about your car problems for like 50 bucks. And he quit doing it because it was just like, it was just too much, you know. So then people actually got mad, like, wait, I have to pay $50 to the car wizard. Because especially a lot of older people, they don't understand that. Like, they think that they're watching YouTube and then there's like some entitlement. They like, they, they, they, they're owed like conversations and time and hangouts.

[A]

Unbelievable. When older people come to me on the street, they just think that like, yeah, like they're like, they're the only ones who are watching me.

[B]

Right.

[A]

Like, young people are very respectful. My time, whenever old people think that they could. And it's like, you know, this is like kind of like tv and I don't mind and I talk to him. But it is surprising. It's always the older people, like, they really have. There's this thinking that like, they're the only ones and that I'm just a guy who's like, who's like, probably not many people. He'd probably, oh, I can't believe he got wrecked. Recognized.

[B]

It's like, you know, actually, well, in Kansas, people, it's a lot more casual too. And so the boomers will. I think it's okay to just pull up my driveway during family dinner and say, hey, I want to sell this car. Where you think I should do it all I said, and I don't mind it.

[A]

I'm mad about that.

[B]

It's just. And in Kansas, you know, it's a little bit more of that, you know, neighbors just kind of knock on the

[A]

door kind of thing.

[B]

So the culture's kind of especially of that age and it doesn't bother me. But obviously from a time suck standpoint,

[A]

yeah, that's a real problem.

[B]

I would have to figure out, like, where someone would just have that business phone to answer and like, no, Tyler's not here. It's just that, that it could work. And also it's in Newton and there's a lot of farm stuff out there, like just going to the auctions and buying these farm trucks that people can use. It seems like there's a need there for me having a hooptie lot, which is what, something I did 10 years ago.

[A]

Right.

[B]

So it also will scratch the itch for me, a little bit of like this. I gotta buy a car kind of junkie thing. Like I get to go to the dealer auctions again and hunt hoopties, which I very much enjoy.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So it might make sense.

[A]

Wow.

[C]

I would take my car to Hoovy's garage for service.

[A]

That's. You will not do that. It's very far away.

[C]

Well, I mean, if I were local, if I were in Kansas wizard, you

[B]

know, he's getting a little arthritic and like he has this guy Danielson that would stick around and he's doing the bulk of the work on the cars anyway. The car wizard has been very good now at like, you know, diagnosing and figuring things out. But as far as like, like turning the rail inches, less and less of that these days. And it's just, just from age. It's just. It just happens, you know?

[A]

Yeah. Yeah, that makes sense. But he's still going to have a shop, though.

[C]

This is big news. This should have been the first slide in the car.

[A]

This is all massive stuff. I'm looking all this up. So he's up in Newton.

[B]

Correct.

[A]

That's. That's pretty for. It's like an hour. I didn't realize.

[B]

It's 30 minutes from me.

[A]

I didn't realize it was so far away. Do you ever get people. Does he ever get people come up from northern Oklahoma. You ever get Ponca City people?

[B]

Not, not so much, but so. And the funny thing is the way

[A]

that he still water.

[B]

He's had people in his garage. So he has, you know, he has a kind of an aircraft hangar style door on one side and then a big garage. And when he opens it up during the summer, because in my videos I just drive in and people think that that's normal. So then they'll come through, drive in to the middle of the shop, get out and go, weezer, fix my car. And he's like, what the heck are you doing?

[A]

Like, this is like this is not how it works.

[B]

And that there's been times where like families have gone on a road trip and drive through like it's an attraction and just drive through wave, drive through, out and go. So like. So it's a very odd thing.

[A]

It does. Some of the disrespect surprises me sometimes,

[B]

but it's not, it's not intentional. It's just like they think that that's how the. It actually works for his business where people can.

[A]

Like he's running a business. Like he's working like that.

[B]

Like, you know, there's calling up and

[A]

tying up the phone lines and stuff. I mean that must be really difficult for him sometimes.

[B]

Well that's why he hired a full time office guy.

[A]

But even to do, to have to hire a full time office guy, it's

[B]

pretty normal for a McCray shop to have a receptionist business.

[A]

But that guy's probably on the phone all day with, with randos from calling in from Canada to Florida and he's

[B]

got a list and he'll just. And he knows at this point where like I've had this car sitting for 30 years. I want the wizard get it running. And was just like no, I'm not doing like the, the these people that want miracles. And also sometimes people will just ship cars to him. They show up and like these three shops couldn't figure it out. It's like a Range Rover with a timing chain that's come off and it's, you know, just. And it's like this is, it's a, it's a $500 range rover that's gonna be 20 grand to fix. And like just, it gets just left out there.

[A]

How often do you get people emailing you randomly?

[B]

All the time.

[C]

That's.

[B]

Hey, it's a car like the 997.

[A]

That's how I bought it.

[B]

The Packard. I saw.

[C]

I bought it.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Is it, is it just a constant? And so you kind of like pick and treat.

[C]

Yes.

[A]

He doesn't even have to go on Marketplace. He gets Marketplace delivered.

[C]

But there are cars that can't be sold on Facebook. Marketplace because they're too bad. Like a lone motor. 997.

[B]

The Escalade that I drove here. This triumphant horse I met two days ago. This, this Escalade. That's incredible. There was a dealer buddy that knew I am crazy for these things and, and just bought it.

[A]

How, how, how long you spend each year in Scottsdale?

[B]

Well, I guess be about a week for every six weeks. I guess it be about. Yeah.

[A]

So you spend 6th of your time there. 20% of your time. 15. 20% of your time.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

Away from all your.

[B]

Your car is away from. I have two cars. I have two car garage.

[A]

Let me guess. Audi RS E Tron GT?

[B]

No.05 Escalade and a Fiat 500. A bar 2013. 16,000.

[A]

Hoovy's two car solution is an 05 Escalade. When forced to pare it down to

[C]

two, the neighbors have no idea that he's in the car.

[A]

The garage is open traffic. The 05 Escalade. Everybody in Phoenix area's got an 05 Escalade.

[B]

Well, it's, it's. The garage is very small, so the Escalade just barely fits. And then you have to have the garbage cans inside. So it's like, what's something with a back seat that's fun.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And. And would fit in there and that's pretty much it.

[A]

You have the garbage cans. It's an HOA community.

[B]

Correct.

[A]

Not like Kansas. We can do whatever we want.

[B]

Exactly. Yes.

[C]

I do think it's a great idea. And you could take like Fast and Loud. Had like a public shop that you could go visit. They had like a merch store open. You could get pictures with the cars. So if you're going to sell cars anyways and you're getting foot traffic of people that are uninvited, that's a good idea.

[A]

Turn it into an attraction action.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Up there in. Where was it? Newton.

[B]

Newton, Kansas.

[A]

Where are you? Sedgwick.

[B]

It is Butler and Andover.

[A]

I. I don't see those on the map. I'm going to assume it's Valley Center. So you're in Valley Center.

[B]

It's east of Witch.

[A]

It's east. It's east. Oh, I didn't realize you were out there. Oh, wow. So you got like a drive to get to the. To the wizard there.

[B]

It's 30 minutes.

[A]

Yeah, but it's like a drive.

[C]

The cars don't always make it. If you watch his YouTube channel, it's kind of part of the fun.

[A]

What is this freeway here that, that goes up in the northeast section of Wichita there, up that between 35 and 135. What's that about? All called.

[B]

There's K96, the loop around there.

[A]

235. There's for some reason it doesn't say right off where. Greenwich Road. You ever driving on that in Greenwich Road right there and you stop at the.

[B]

We call it Greenwich in Kansas. So we're not too close for this? Yes, everybody says Greenwich.

[A]

All right, so you're up off Greenwich Road. You ever go to the Texas Roadhouse up there?

[B]

All the time.

[A]

Really?

[B]

Yes. Damn the Rolls.

[A]

Yeah, that's, that's, that's, that's. How lovely is that? You ever go off of. Let's see, what else. You ever go to the Carrabba's there off of North Rock Road?

[B]

No, no, get into the hard heading.

[A]

Oh, you mean the.

[C]

Skip the listener questions and just go

[A]

through all the restaurants with Fazoli's there. I don't know what you prefer. It's near the end.

[B]

I got food poisoning from that Fazoli.

[C]

I remember.

[B]

Fasali. Yes. Yep.

[A]

God. So you go to the Fazoli's, then you go to the Sam's Club. This is great. There's stuff up there. This is thrilling.

[B]

People really don't care about any of this.

[A]

No. Kansas, let me tell you something. Our Wichita contingent, which is significant, they're going to be watching this, and they're going to say, yes, I go to that Fazoli's. I love. I work at that Fazoli. They're going to say, this is incredible. Yes. Right here in Sedgwick County.

[C]

I want to make sure there's time for listener questions, but we got a ton of listeners. I think we got to talk to the other three cars you're selling.

[A]

So.

[C]

Blackwood, right?

[B]

Lincoln. Blackwood.

[C]

Which we want. Right. Should we split it?

[A]

It's probably rough as hell. It's his.

[C]

No, it definitely is. It has a head gasket blown.

[B]

No, I just did the head gaskets on it. So that was the one thing with it. But it's actually tailgate work. Tailgate works. It was a. It's a California truck.

[C]

Navigation works perfectly.

[B]

The navigation has a few dead pixels in it, but it does the. The softer. Softer. Louder. Louder.

[A]

Yeah. Nav is what you want.

[C]

I know. I know.

[A]

You ever see the Nav? It's. It's a. This ridiculous screen and four buttons by

[C]

the cup holders down in the center console.

[A]

Yep.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah. It was just a thing you tacked in and had nothing to do with.

[C]

You take your eyes completely off the road while you.

[A]

Yeah. Four buttons. There's no, like, keypad, like every. Presumably you have to, like, scroll over, tap. Okay.

[B]

And the Lincoln Town Car, which we bought on cars and Bids. So now it's being April's car. Yes.

[A]

What's April?

[B]

Daily in April dailies. Right now, the Model X a lot of the time, but she is definitely. She has her grand national, the gnx, and then the El Camino grand national thing. She rocks those a lot. These are 129 as well. 90 SL.

[A]

She's. But she's Draven daily in a Model X.

[B]

Model X. She likes electric. She doesn't like going to the gas station.

[A]

You don't have a. A gas pump out there on your farm?

[B]

No, no. It'd be a good idea, especially with all these older cars and the ethanol. Not liking it.

[A]

Nick's dad's on a farm. He's got his own gas pump.

[C]

He does Actually.

[A]

What's that about? Come on.

[B]

It's. It's coming. I need to do that for sure.

[A]

Is that on your list?

[B]

It is definitely on the list where I can get some 93. No ethanol. For some of these older cars. That would run a lot better. Like the gold Wing, for example, does not like the ethanol when it gets heated up because the. It sits right on the block. The injection pump. And if it gets a little pot and vapor locky the. And it just gets weird.

[A]

So when are you going to repair the oil that you spilled on my garage on my driveway from the gullway?

[B]

Sorry. Sorry. Do you have some kitty litter? I can take care of it tonight.

[A]

Really?

[B]

Yes. I'll go buy some kitty litter.

[A]

I gotta get a video of hoovy dropping kitty litter.

[C]

I've actually found that like dawn dish soap does just as well as kitty.

[A]

You know what? I actually truly, legitimately, I like the oil spots. Cause they make me think of hoovy. I'm not even screwing with you. My kids are out there drawn chalk and I see there's only a few. And I'm like, hoover is here. The reason that came from a gullwing.

[B]

I had to drive it in anger to keep up with you. And it. It was pouring out of that rear main.

[A]

Yes.

[C]

Gulwing oil is a flex.

[A]

Okay. So you're selling a Lincoln Blackwood. You're gonna. You're interested in this?

[C]

Oh yeah.

[A]

You're gonna.

[C]

He. When he bought it in Barry Jackson's got sale and I went home empty handed. I wanted to buy it off of him then. And thankfully I didn't because it had a blown head gasket. Those.

[B]

That's the big fatal flaw with that engine. And somebody for 10 years just kept pouring stop leaving leak in it, taking it apart.

[A]

That's that 4.6 liter. That was a good motor. Or 5.4 liter. That was that V8.

[B]

It's a 5.4 but it's the 32 valve. It's like it's the better performance. But there is the head gasket thing. And it was an issue early. And I mean it was three grand to do. It's not insane to do. But somebody just didn't do it forever and just kept pouring it in and just. You know, the stop leak basically goes through and it coats the spot where it's going and how much buildup through this engine. It was unbelievable how long somebody was rocking it that way.

[A]

And then they took it to Barrett Jackson of all places.

[B]

Yeah. What else are you selling that, that 91, the. The town and then the P38 Range Rover.

[A]

I know you've been on the town.

[C]

He is selling the P38 because he'd rather drive a cheap.

[B]

The Wagoneer.

[C]

Can you come on.

[A]

Anybody who spent any time around a P38 doesn't want anything to do with it. That's why they're all abandoned.

[C]

Don't you feel kind of the same way about a Jeep Wagoneer?

[A]

What Wagoneer 91.

[B]

It's an 89 Wagoneer. And, and it's.

[A]

I would rather have an 89 Wagoneer to a level that is impossible for me to describe using English words than a P38.

[C]

P38 has the chrome Mondial wheels. It is, it's beautiful.

[B]

But you, you park the two next as far as like an old school heavy, clunky, off roader type thing and you just, you get in the Wagoneer. That's, that's what it's been ever since for British royalty.

[C]

And one is for people who have cousins that are also their sisters.

[A]

No, dude, an 89 Wagoneer. Are you out of your mind? Come on.

[B]

They're all over Nantucket and everything.

[A]

You're crazy.

[C]

Yeah, the like 100k restomods, the base mods, no regular ones, make farm tractors look well equipped.

[B]

You have not experienced it because it does actually have a nice ride. Yeah.

[A]

There is comfortable seat.

[B]

You want like a pillowy soft V8.

[A]

The 89, that generational Wagoneer which was the last carbureted car ever to exist in regular form in America. It just is the last to me, the last bastion of driving a 50s car. It is a overstuffed seat. It is a incredibly floaty ride. You look out over a giant hood with hood ornament. It feels like the old like, like the. The doctor is driving his family to the mountains for a ski trip. He's gonna yell at the mom.

[B]

And decent utility. It has low range. I mean it's, it's, it's. I mean it's not anything like today, but I mean it decent utility.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

So I, I'll give you a point on the hood ornament, but if your battery dies, does the car beep at you and say windows not set right? I mean there's a lot of features in the B38 you're messing with.

[A]

It is surprising that you, you haven't pursued a grand wagon era. That car.

[C]

They're too much money. They're pieces of turds for like 40k plus.

[B]

So the first one I ever Bought it was like my 24th birthday, and it was 4,500 bucks with 80,000 miles on it.

[C]

I'd pay that.

[B]

It would be a $100,000 car today. I saw. I flipped it on ebay for like 8 and thought I was the smartest

[C]

guy on the planet.

[B]

And now it's $100,000 car. So this one, it's really nice. It just paints a little faded.

[A]

What color?

[B]

It's blue. Snicker blue. So I'll go through. It's not the lighter blue. It's the darker blue. So dark blue. So I'll go through, repaint, redo the wood, and then it's probably like a 50, $60,000 rig that I got for 20s.

[C]

So am I going to have me swap it?

[B]

No, the 360 is good.

[A]

Maybe.

[C]

Maybe an SRT.

[A]

I've considered. Remember they had. There was that one that was like legit. Consider.

[C]

That went over six figures, though.

[A]

No, they were selling it on their website. We don't know.

[C]

I want to say we sell it price somewhere. It was like 80 to 100 later

[A]

trying to flip it or something.

[C]

But that'd be cool.

[A]

Yeah, that would be cool. Dude. I'm all for that. Keep. Sell a P38. Keep a wagoner. I agree with you. If I was walking up to those two cars sitting there, I would pick

[B]

the G. They scratch the same inch. That's the thing. And just the moment I got the Wagoneer home, it just. The P38 never moved again. Yep.

[C]

You missed out on a seminal automotive experience. That's okay. We'll let it slide.

[A]

We like Escalades, auction cars. We've talked Gullwing. I want to move on. We're not going to get to the marker report. I'm so sorry. We're not going to get to anything else. We just. I want to move on to the questions because there's questions in here for Hoovy.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

The questions are brought to you by Hoovy's garage, which now is going to be an actual garage. You heard it here first. Maybe.

[B]

Hey, I'm trying to save the announcement for my channel.

[A]

On our channel. We need the money. Okay, Hoovie. We did a post. You can ask questions if you want. You go to carsandbids.com, you click on the community tab. There's questions. There's a questions thing. It's great. Hoovy. We made a post a couple days ago because we remembered you were coming, and we said, oh, my God, we gotta do Hoovy questions. So People have run in with a bunch of hoovy questions, and I got a bunch of them, and they're great. First question.

[B]

Hopefully not about my personal life.

[A]

Some of them are great. First question from cartism is the best.

[B]

Hoovy.

[A]

Is Doug a maniac or does he just seem like one on camera?

[B]

No, you're not a maniac at all. You're very. You're very. You're very rational. It's just, you're very unfiltered, which even before all of your success and all these things, even. Even when, you know, you were, you know, a struggling writer and all that stuff, you still had this kind of bluntness to you that most people don't have. And I think it's probably gotten a little worse as.

[A]

What do you mean worse? I think it's the best thing I have. I'm the only person who's doing new car content who actually will tell the truth.

[B]

That is true. That is true.

[A]

I have somebody out there who I believe in. Let me ask you this question. Do you think Nick is a maniac?

[B]

Yes, totally.

[C]

Hold on. No, I want to dive into the original question. You are absolutely maniac. If I ever go missing and they look through my text messages, the number of times you threaten death, beheading, physical harm, other kinds of harm, I will be like 10 minutes late to something. And the text strings that I get for you, it'll be seven in a row.

[B]

Don't be late.

[C]

Oftentimes I'm a busy man.

[A]

Oftentimes, Sometimes I will send those texts because I am hoping that you will show up because there are people that are at the thing that we are going to together that I do not want to be with. And I need Nick there. Okay. This is Ryan Lopez, too. He's my emotional support.

[C]

Ryan Lopez, Yes. The human shield. I love that role. As well as your de facto backdoor DMER where people would be like, hey, do this for. I'm like, I'm not his boy.

[A]

Definitely did not ever want anybody to do that.

[C]

I. I think you. The ultimate irony is you love to introduce people as they're crazy or they're insane, but you think it's you.

[A]

I would argue that in order to do this production, you got. You got a little insight.

[C]

You got to be entertaining.

[A]

None of us. I think I'm the least insane, personally.

[C]

Well, that is.

[A]

But. But none of us, that's. That's maybe debatable, but none of us are normal.

[B]

You're just fortunate that all of the choices that you made were Right. You think that was luck and that helped.

[A]

Do you think that was luck?

[B]

Obviously, some of this is luck where we are today. You've even said this in videos before. But if there were a few mistakes in there that might have humbled you some, maybe it would have been better for your personality. I don't know.

[A]

I think that in order to do this job, there's a little bit of insanity that goes on. Just even to try it and to get to this level and to just continue doing it and entertaining people and dealing with all the things.

[B]

Stuff.

[A]

The stuff that comes.

[B]

But he never threatened me, like, so I'm kind of like Doug's original side tick kick, I would say. As far as the auto trader days

[A]

and all that stuff, I would never. Would threaten who.

[C]

You also threatened to sell humans for, like, minor things, like a chocolate chip cookie.

[A]

What did I say I would sell on this pot? I said I would sell Felipe or something.

[C]

It was probably like a toothpick because you had something stuck in your teeth.

[B]

There was never any abuse. I don't remember any of this. So that now you have a whole posse. And, like, I mentioned that you guys like to go swimming together and all this stuff, you know, and it's kind of. It's kind of cultish, you know? So, like, it's. It's.

[A]

It's interesting on this subject. The next question.

[B]

But no, you're not. You're not a maniac.

[C]

You're getting in the pool with us tonight, right?

[A]

Daniel Gregory writes. Hi, Hoovy. If you could steal one member of Doug's team to work for you, who would it be?

[B]

Brian.

[A]

I don't believe I'm still getting blamed for all this. He's over here. He's been saying Ryan Lopez things.

[B]

I love kids. Kenan. Kenan.

[A]

You and Kennen.

[B]

He. He would be. I. It would just be like. Well, Filippo would be great too.

[A]

You get two minutes.

[C]

Is it because he's got better hair than me?

[A]

No, no.

[B]

I just. I feel like they would get more done to help me than you.

[C]

Oh, for sure. No, I circulated the meme the other day that was like, some people hire a mechanic because their car is broken. I hire a mechanic because I tried to fix it myself, and now it's worse. We are not the same. That is me.

[A]

Kenan is a. He's got the Midwestern, the same Midwestern kind of vibes that you could have.

[C]

Yes.

[B]

It would be very chill, pleasant, happy. Nobody'd be threatening each other. Nobody would say things that we need to be Cut out of pockets.

[A]

Do you think you might want to poach one of the team members here to go and work for your new venture?

[B]

Are we making cuts? Is that the next announcement?

[A]

No.

[B]

30%. We're cutting 30% of our staff right now. Competition right now. Here's the. Sean, obviously you're on thin ice, but

[A]

there's five people sitting here. Make me an offer.

[C]

Ryan's been loudly eating lunch for the last hour and a half. I think he's got bandwidth.

[A]

Okay.

[C]

Dropping forks.

[A]

Kenan or Filipo? Because he's. He's hyper productive. And you think you could get a lot out of him. I could, I think, tell you this problem with Filippo. He's expensive.

[C]

Oh, he's expensive.

[B]

But the cost of living is lower in Kansas.

[A]

It wouldn't. He's become accustomed to a certain lifestyle. Filippo flies private. Next question, next question, next question. Next. Oh, here's a good one from Cadillac Caleb.

[B]

Cadillac Caleb.

[A]

This is a good question.

[B]

Is this your pseudonym?

[A]

It's only slightly a personal question.

[B]

Okay, this is your pseudonym then.

[A]

Dear Tyler, you really lucked out in finding a car girl like April. And so I was wondering what advice you have to young single guys who are into cars and like, looking for a girl with similar interests. How do I find a girl that is as into cars as I am? Thank you in advance for your answer. Even thank you.

[B]

I'm very fortunate in the fact that I met April, you know, working at a car event. So it's very unusual nowadays. Was it more than half now meet people online as far, which I can't imagine meeting a girl online. But I'm a little older, so I see examples of it in some of the younger tiktokers and gen zers that are at events and they're going to these car events, unlike what Doug doesn't do anymore, but he doesn't need to meet women and there are girls there.

[A]

Usual place I would try to meet women either.

[C]

Worst place ever to meet Iguan there.

[B]

There are girls there and you just. You just have to go up and talk to them. This isn't something that you have to like sliding into DMs and texts and all that stuff. It is not the way that young people do it these days. But if you just go up and talk to them, you're way. You're. You're way ahead than having to like, let's talk for a month on. On Instagram DMS before we actually, like, interact. Like, go up and talk to them at the places where you Want to meet them?

[A]

You got any advice there?

[C]

I think we need a key video where Ryan picks up women at car shows, at car events, teaches us his tricks.

[A]

Yeah, my.

[C]

It's been cut in the past, so I. I don't know if this will make it or not, but

[A]

the level of which this is getting cut is actually hard to even begin to expect.

[C]

Okay, but there's some lovely ones too.

[A]

Okay, cut it too. But there's some lovely ones too. And we'll move on. Okay. Since what Nick just said can't be put on air, let's move on to another question.

[B]

My advice was good.

[A]

Your advice is actually good. I agree with you. There are women at those events and coming up and talking to people. I think there is a little bit of a stigma now. Back in our day, you could do it now. There's a stigma about. If you do that, you're creepy. And I think people are worried about feeling that way.

[B]

You just don't go up. You're hot. Like, it's. It's like you talk about their car, you talk about what like. And you just see if there's, if there's some conversation flowing. Obviously. Take some social skills that are definitely being lost on that generation.

[A]

Oh, wow, we're doing a next. We're doing a. But I mean, no, I mean, I

[B]

mean, like, I don't text very well, so, like, as far as that kind of stuff, I suck at it.

[A]

So.

[B]

And maybe conversationally, I'm a little better in person scheduling.

[A]

He refused to text Sean. He won't deal with the little pixel. He would only text me.

[B]

Sorry.

[C]

I got one more piece of advice for finding cars.

[A]

I can't wait to hear it. Given the last piece of advice, go

[C]

to Johnny Lieberman's Instagram page and check

[A]

out all the ones he follows.

[C]

A lot of good looking women that are presumably in the cars.

[A]

Oh, my God. All right, moving on. Next question.

[C]

I assume that's why he follows them.

[A]

Next question. This is a good one from Liot. Dear Hoovy, if you were going to move to another country to escape your crippling debt, what country? Verbatim A plus. What country would you move to? I don't need to have the debt part in there, but I do have a. I am curious, if you weren't living in America and I think of you as a very American person, where would you. Where would you go? A lot of the cars you love are not. Would it be Canada? You can still get Escalades and stuff.

[B]

No, it's too Cold in Canada.

[A]

Where would you go?

[B]

Why would I go? I mean, traveled it. Italy is somewhere I love going back to. Every time I think the. I think the car culture is there and it's. And there's. There's some isolated spots that, you know, you could still live reasonably and I'd be okay with that.

[A]

You go to Italy?

[B]

I go to Italy. Or. Or, you know, south of France. Monaco is too expensive. I'd live in Monaco. It'd be fun, you know, but. Yeah, but I couldn't afford that.

[A]

But you don't think you would go to somewhere that speaks English. You don't think you'd go to Australia. What about the Middle East? They. They do. They do crazy car stuff there, I suppose.

[B]

England, the weather. I wouldn't do it.

[A]

Don't do the weather there. What about Australia?

[B]

Australia would be okay, I guess. I've only been to Australia once, but it's been a long time.

[A]

Interesting. We didn't expect him to say the south of France. Mr. Hooptie over here.

[C]

He's matured.

[A]

He's matured. Okay, next question. Oh, this is a good one for you. It's for me. It's directed to me, but this is for you because you're going to answer it better than I can. JHL6464 writes, Dear dog, there's a pretty clean delta on cars and bids, right? Lancet delta on cars and bids. Right now. It's got a reserve. I know you won't bid on cars with a reserve, but why not announce reserve met the moment it happens and really crank up the excitement? The moment everyone knows a car is selling, it seems like the fun would really blow up. Why don't you announce reserve met? Hoovy explain why we don't do that.

[B]

Because that means, oh, this is what the seller thought he was going to get. So I need to stop bidding. Yes, that's that. No.

[A]

When you announce reserve met on an online auction, you're basically saying, hey, buy buyers. You're paying too much. The seller only thought he's gonna get this much. Now you're paying way more than that. When you announce it at Barrett Jackson, it's it. It's a room. It's all no reserve or okay, fine. The other.

[B]

The electric car auctions, where they say

[A]

the reserves in the room, it has a different effect. It can really energize, electrify. These people are drinking. These people are all getting egged on by their buddies. It's a different situation. But.

[C]

And that the auctions go so fast you get this like urgency to it. Like I gotta get in there. But because like auctions over in like a third.

[A]

I could lose this.

[C]

Yes, correct.

[A]

I could lose this.

[C]

You got a split second to make

[A]

the decision on the online auctions. Anybody who announces reserve is off is if they're a seller is making a mistake. As a buyer, I love it. I bought a car one time where they did that and instantly bidding stopped just like it always does. And that's. And you. I assume you're selling all your cars, no reserve. But you never do.

[B]

Always from the beginning. You were terrified with the Phantom in the very first one back in 2020.

[A]

Or like that guy.

[B]

No, no, I don't. I don't think he doesn't have it anymore. We did so many cardios after that because as far as Jean Claude Van Damme. Oh yeah, I got that from him. The. The Bentley.

[A]

You owe me.

[B]

Oh, I know, it's amazing. He bought my DB7.

[A]

You owe me. I need a cut of all that.

[B]

He's. He's awesome.

[A]

And you still in touch with him

[B]

every once in a while? Yes, he'll. We'll still text. But it's crazy because he's in South Carolina and he has like a four car garage but 30 cars and it's like 10 of them are Rolls Royces and Bentleys that are outside. It's so like. And it's like Phantom drop head that sits outside kind of stuff. It's just crazy.

[A]

I remember he was in South Carolina. Next question from Shotgun SAM911. Dear Tyler, when are you moving to San Diego? What is keeping you in Kansas? I have the same question. Shotgun Sam.

[B]

Children, family?

[A]

Next question.

[B]

Dear Tyler, cost of living too. San Diego is too expensive. Taxes. Yeah, taxes are a problem for me.

[A]

What is Kansas's state income tax?

[B]

It's mine. Is this effect rates like when I'm five and a half or something like that?

[A]

It's not that much different. I mean it's different, but it's not insane. Meo424 writes. Dear Tyler, would you ever consider getting a Pagoda SL or is it too similar to the 300 SL and to your R107?

[B]

That's the thing is sort of the in between. It has elements of both that I like. And it's just never been an opportunity for me to get one because they rust so easily. So it's getting one that is a hoopdy but not rusted. It's just the opportunities never present itself. Not opposed to it.

[A]

They're cool.

[B]

Though they're very cool. I wouldn't like. Yeah, manual. They, they had manual 230s. I don't think they did manual 280s but, but I, I would. Yeah, no problem.

[A]

You ever think about a p. They're cool.

[C]

I think they look beautiful.

[A]

Your Mercedes Benz, man.

[C]

Yeah, maybe, maybe one day.

[B]

They have this bad rear axle system that's a little like this semi solid swing arm thing that's a little like. Same with the 190 sells. That makes it like not as fun to like carve around a corner or what.

[A]

It's a cruising car.

[B]

Yes. The 107. Because it can, it could like if I went up the hills with you guys like in your cars, like I could have some fun and that car would be a little, a little scary.

[A]

Dear Hoovy, what is your guess on the percentage of your collection that gets driven on a monthly basis?

[B]

I try every two months. Make sure every car gets, gets a good drive and it's. And so I try. You can see the lifts kind of rotate. But now recently I've been buying cars that, that I just put on the lift and not move. So like my Jurassic Park Jeep may come down once every six months. The Fast and Furious Prius. It's not like I'm jonesing to get that thing down and drive it. You know, there's one car, Trek car that's all chopped up and ruined. It's up at the very top that's never going.

[A]

You don't have that Fast and Furious Prius.

[B]

I bought it back just recently. Just a few months ago it popped up for it. It showed up at wholesale deal dealer like this guy just dumped it and they, they knew it was like. Do you want it back away? Well yeah, it's just, just to park it as part of like my history. Like you know, you know the, we

[A]

pretty often will sell cars. I don't know if you ever noticed that. I don't know how often you go on cars and bids, but pretty often we sell every day. We, you probably have noticed we sell cars that previously owned. You know, you've had so many cars that they come across not infrequently, you know a guy you sold it to or the five owners later or something like that.

[B]

And sometimes I discover late because I, I, I think that Rolls Royce that was just sold came up and sold for around 10 grand on cars and bids. Which is amazing because like I bought it for ten grand, spent five on it. Wizard bought it in store credit for by the end spent thousands on it and then the next day. I mean it's just everybody has a year, they get 10 grand for it, they spend on the repairs. It just keeps going.

[A]

That's so true. Okay, last question, last question, last question, last question. This is going to be an important one from poor financial decisions. Dear Hoover. Okay, of all the cars you've ever owned, which brand has consistently left you the most disappointed o

[B]

is it BMWs? A lot of the modern BMWs that get me and Maseratis there's been some rough ones too where I feel like yeah that's probably the two.

[A]

Wow. BMW and Maserati.

[B]

BMW what BMW?

[A]

How come?

[B]

Cuz I'll buy the worst examples of things and there's just so many gotchas where it just, it's just smoked me over the years. Yeah the. The Alpena B7 B7 series that unfortunately, you know like the, the supercharger was bad and the valve seals were bad and then the X6M that I had to bury because somebody blown the motor and swapped it over. So I, I get caught in BMWs a lot and the Maseratis is just for obvious reasons because I buy the worst ones of them and then usually, usually get smoked.

[A]

Right.

[B]

And it's. They can, they can be fine if they're nice but obviously I'm looking for the cheapest bottom of the barrel and that's the ones where it's usually so far mechanically total is just unfixable.

[A]

How is your YouTube views these days?

[B]

I'm hanging in there.

[A]

Yeah, you're making good.

[B]

I'm doing fine. I, I've. I've definitely, you know, as far as the rapid growth around Covid that everybody experienced, that was, you know, that was fun and I, I'm happy where I'm at the plateau where I'm at. The thing is where you guys are just doing more brand deals and things. That's the cool thing. I think that where YouTube is getting a lot more mainstream, where big brands are coming on to advertise with YouTubers that you normally have seen on TV and all that stuff. So as far as. That's where this new thing has come in where now I have pretty much every video sponsored by. I have tire rack, I have many regular sponsors every month and it's so it's.

[A]

Are you making more off that than

[B]

it has passed really. It has passed adsense dramatically at this point.

[C]

Brand deals not on that level. But yeah, Teu sent me some stuff, you know we're.

[A]

Why don't you hook him up It's a different scale.

[B]

Of course.

[C]

You need to hook him up. Me, Mr. You guys are doing a

[B]

lot of things, amazing partnerships you guys are doing recently. It's, it's really neat because it was unimaginable just a few years ago a lot of these brands. So like we, we were doing commercials for like, you know, weird game apps and like one of the reasons strange watches and things like main mainstream brands never imagined going on YouTube until very recently.

[A]

So one of the reasons that I didn't do ads for so many long is because the products that you were being asked to advertise were always substandard bs. And I didn't want to be associated with any of that. And it's amazing to me that yeah, we have, we have like really high quality companies advertising us that I am actually legitimately I use their product. I am, I am proud of their product. I am proud to advertise for them because I truly believe that it's like a real like tire. I mean there's a bunch mothers and

[B]

it's nice because when we started YouTube, I mean the, I don't know if the goal for you, you was more supplement for your writing and things and yeah, somewhat for me but like the dream was to like get a TV show and like be the next Top Gear or something and well, it's to a point. Yeah, I had the three seasons of motor trend show but YouTube became the platform in that time where now all the people that were very well known on TV are like struggling to get a YouTube channel going because that's, that's where the audience is now and it's, it's completely flipped and I, I find

[A]

it interesting because yeah, that was the goal for so many people and it was my goal originally for the first couple years and has not been my goal for years. And I'm surprised that there are still people in this sphere that have that as their goal because it's like maybe this is it, this is tv. Like this is as big of a reach as any of those shows will ever have. And you don't have to do all the, all the bs.

[B]

Yes. But at the same time the struggle with I think our content because you have always wanted to keep to your quality. That's been the same for 10 years or lack thereof. As far as with your reviews. Same with me. I'm kind of a Roman running a vlog guy. You have key now this is a very high quality thing. But that's what we have now have to compete with now is TV Quality level production in reviews and car ownership and all that stuff. And it's one thing where obviously our personalities and the content that we're doing kind of drives that and the reviews and your quirks and all that stuff. But obviously that makes it a harder bar to where like getting a million views no matter what whenever I bought something crazy or when you get a new car, it's, it's not, it's a harder thing to hit.

[A]

It is, it is. I think the short form was really the big thing that affected all that. I think it was short form more than high quality stuff. I think that people on YouTube aren't

[B]

don't care that saturation. I mean there's so many people doing what we do now. Where we were there was much few of us.

[A]

I think the real thief, the guy who came and took our revenue and took our views is Forest Auto Reviews. You see Forest out there on TikTok. He's the Doug Demuro of TikTok. Like he does the quirks and features but like short and good and snappy. He's am amazing. I, I look up to him and also I hate him for stealing everything really well.

[C]

No, I don't care.

[B]

I've changed my intros a lot.

[A]

I do think that though I do think short form came and really had an effect. You don't think that I, I, I

[B]

agree because I have changed my intros a lot to where like I need to get like they need to know within 10 seconds what this video is going to be. It needs to be less than a second before. Shot, shot, shot, shot, shot. Because people are so used to that short form style of like I get all this information in such a short period of time like what's going to happen in the this video and then maybe I'll sit and watch.

[A]

Do you do a lot of short form? No. You should.

[B]

I, I need to.

[A]

We do it. We spend hours.

[B]

You have a team.

[A]

We have a team that spends hours and hours. They, they all get paid a salary. Spends hours and hours and it makes us no money. Listen Hoovy, at the end of this to celebrate your arrival here on the pod, I want to provide you with a Ferrari F40. Thank you so much for coming.

[B]

Thank you.

[A]

It's beautiful that you're here.

[B]

It's like the gas smoking one you see should have bought.

[A]

Did I tell you that story? You know that story?

[B]

I think so, yes.

[A]

I'll tell it off camera. I don't think I can tell the whole story here. Thank you so much. For coming. For gracing us with your presence all the way from Scottsdale, Arizona, ladies and gentlemen. Both Nick and Hoovy have a big Scottsdale presence.

[C]

That's right.

[A]

You guys should meet up one time at a Fazoli, Texas roadhouse. Pleasure. Hoovie, you got any. Anything else? Any parting thoughts for us?

[B]

No. I'm. I'm honored to be here. Anytime you want me to come. Really?

[A]

Because I would have you every week.

[B]

It's an easy drive. It's not bad. Yeah.

[A]

Okay. How about every week?

[B]

Not every week.

[A]

It's at any time.

[B]

You know, quarterly, every other month.

[A]

Whatever you want to do, let's do it. Let's bring them here. Quarterly. Do we pay him for this? Do we pay him for this? Oh, you getting paid to be here.

[B]

But I don't want to take away budget from key. You know, that's the other thing. It's like, that's some good stuff.

[A]

Getting real money for that.

[B]

Look, go watch the key stuff.

[A]

Videos.

[B]

Thank you.

[A]

That's beautiful.

[C]

He's plugging instead of the own auctions that are currently running that he needs.

[A]

This is Hoobie. He is a selfless, beautiful person.

[C]

He's got a gull wing that he's trying to get running.

[A]

Your be aging beautifully, but he is beautiful inside.

[C]

Yes. Should we head out with Ryan and Hillcrest?

[A]

Okay. Goodbye.