Nightmare in Quincy

Summary

This Doesn't Happen to People Like Me: Episode Summary - "Nightmare in Quincy"

Podcast Title: This Doesn't Happen to People Like Me
Host/Author: Sword and Scale
Episode: Nightmare in Quincy
Release Date: March 3, 2025

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Introduction

The episode "Nightmare in Quincy" delves into the harrowing true crime story of Tina Loman, a 77-year-old grandmother whose life was tragically shattered by a brutal assault. Hosted by Mike Boudet and produced by the creators of Sword and Scale, the episode unravels the investigation, the pursuit of justice, and the profound impact on Tina's family and the Quincy community.

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Tina Loman: A Pillar of Family and Community

Tina Loman was a beloved matriarch in Quincy, Illinois. At 77, she was known for her generosity, intelligence, and unwavering dedication to her family. Tina ran a successful business alongside her husband and was the proud mother of four children, 14 grandchildren, and 17 great-grandchildren.

Notable Quotes:

• Carly Hyland (Granddaughter):
  "[02:10] 'December 12, 2021. It was a Sunday evening, it's all a blur. My aunt Ilsa called me and she was very, very short and frantic and she just said get to the hospital.'"

• Ilsa Terrell (Daughter):
  "[03:05] 'My mom's husband called me and told me that my mom was headed to the hospital... They took me to the family waiting room and handed me her jewelry and said that it will be sometime.'”

Tina's deep love for her family was evident in the way her children and grandchildren described her. Carly emphasized Tina's role as a supportive and loving grandmother, while Ilsa highlighted Tina's joyful and caring nature.

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The Tragic Assault

On the evening of November 9, 2021, Tina Loman's life took a devastating turn. While driving home from work, Tina encountered a perilous situation that would forever alter her family's lives.

Events Leading Up to the Assault:

• Car Trouble:
  "On her way home that evening, Tina Loman crossed paths with a monster."
  "[20:14] "My mom was leaving work... she was having issues with her headlights."
  Tina pulled over on a secluded road near Cook's Lane due to malfunctioning headlights and the onset of dusk and rain.

• Encounter with the Perpetrator:
  A man in a truck stopped to offer assistance with Tina's headlights. Initially, Tina believed he was there to help, especially after seeing another individual in the passenger seat.

Notable Quotes:

• Carly Hyland:
  "[22:37] 'She initially felt that he was there to help her with whatever situation she was having.'"

• Sergeant Lohmeyer (Police Interview):
  "[21:13] 'She was on her way home. It was evening time...'"

Despite Tina's hope that the man was genuinely there to help, the situation quickly deteriorated, leading to a violent assault that left her physically and emotionally scarred.

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Immediate Aftermath and Family's Shock

The assault left Tina in critical condition, leading to her hospitalization on December 12, 2021. Her family, believing she was fighting a sudden heart failure despite her previously good health, was blindsided by the devastating news.

Impact on the Family:

• Carly Hyland:
  "[05:32] 'I became physically sick. How could you have done that to my grandma?'"

• Ilsa Terrell:
  "[08:02] 'I don't think anything can prepare you for what we went through...'"

The family's grief was compounded by the realization that Tina's sudden heart failure was a direct result of the traumatic assault she endured. Their pursuit of justice became a central theme, highlighting the challenges and emotional toll of seeking accountability for such a heinous crime.

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Community Response: Quincy, Illinois

Quincy, a small city with a population of around 40,000, is portrayed as a tight-knit and safe community. The local news outlet, Muddy River News, extensively covered the Tina Loman case, making it a well-known incident within the community.

Insights from Local Perspective:

• David Adam (Editor, Muddy River News):
  "[10:20] 'The best way that I think I can describe Quincy, it has everything a big city has...'"
  "[24:52] 'I believe that's kind of the way, you know, Quincy isn't Mayberry, but it's definitely a town...'"

David Adam's coverage provided the community with in-depth information about the case, fostering a collective awareness and concern. Despite the fear and shock, many residents expressed continued confidence in Quincy as a safe place, struggling to reconcile the brutal assault with their perception of the city.

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The Long Road to Justice

Tina's family embarked on a relentless quest to hold the perpetrators accountable. However, the path to justice proved to be arduous and fraught with obstacles, reflecting broader systemic failures highlighted in the episode.

Emotional Toll:

• Carly Hyland:
  "[08:02] 'I think we're still not even over it. I don't know if we ever will be.'"

The family's determination to seek justice underscores the personal battles faced by victims' families in the aftermath of violent crimes. Their story serves as a poignant reminder of the deep-seated impacts such events have on loved ones and communities.

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Conclusion

"Nightmare in Quincy" is a compelling episode that not only recounts the tragic assault of Tina Loman but also paints a vivid picture of her life, the strength of her family, and the reverberating effects of her loss on the Quincy community. Through personal testimonials and detailed coverage, the episode sheds light on the dark realities that can shatter even the most tightly-knit circles, reminding listeners that unimaginable tragedies can occur to anyone, regardless of their perceived safety or standing.

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End of Summary

Transcript

[Mike Boudet]

Hello and welcome to this Doesn't Happen to People like me, a new 10 part series by the creators of Sword and Scale. Please do us a favor and if you like the series and feel so inclined, visit Apple Podcasts or Spotify. Subscribe, Rate and Review it's getting harder and harder to get the word out these days. So if you know anyone who will appreciate this series, please let them know about it. This series was written and produced by Michael Stabile, engineered by Rob Rovelli. I'm your host, Mike Boudet.

[Carly Hyland]

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[Mike Boudet]

On December 12, 2021, a 77 year old woman was rushed to Hannibal Regional Hospital in Hannibal, Missouri. Her name was Tina. Tina was a kind, generous and smart woman. Alongside her husband, she owned and operated a successful business. But what was most important to Tina was her family. Tina had four children, 14 grandchildren and 17 great grandchildren. This is Tina's granddaughter Carly.

[Carly Hyland]

December 12, 2021. It was a Sunday evening, it's all a blur. My aunt Ilsa called me and she was very, very short and frantic and she just said get to the hospital.

[Mike Boudet]

All of Tina's children and grandchildren loved Tina dearly. And when they got the news that she was in the hospital, many of them immediately began making their way to see her. This included Tina's daughter Ilsa.

[Ilsa Terrell]

My mom's husband called me and told me that my mom was headed to the hospital and I went ahead and got in my vehicle and started driving to Hannibal. I didn't know what was going on. I was standing at the hospital waiting and then they took me to the family waiting room which and then handed me her jewelry and said that it will be a sometime.

[Mike Boudet]

Unfortunately not all of Tina's loved ones could go to her because In December of 2021 the COVID pandemic had just started to wane.

[Carly Hyland]

On the way to the hospital I talked to my mom. My mom actually had Covid at that time and was unable to come, which was awful. They wouldn't let her in the hospital. My mom basically said all she knew was that she had collapsed and that she was unresponsive and that they had taken her to the hospital. All we knew at that point was they were still working on her.

[Mike Boudet]

Tina's family waited for the hospital staff to give them more information about Tina's condition and when a doctor came to see them, the news was all bad.

[Carly Hyland]

The doctor came in and told us that there's really not much more that they could do for her and that we need to go say goodbye. That was the first time I Had seen her when they told us that she wasn't going to make it. And it was awful. She was hooked up to all these machines, and she was breathing, but she was only breathing because of the machine, like, stuck in her throat.

[Mike Boudet]

Tina's family was devastated, and they were caught off guard. As far as they knew, Tina was a healthy woman. When she last spoke to her daughter Heidi, the day before, Tina seemed completely fine.

[Carly Hyland]

She was doing great, though. She'd been to the doctor, and the.

[Mike Boudet]

Doctors all gave her a clean bill of health, and she was doing great.

[Carly Hyland]

She had called me the day before wanting to know what I wanted for Christmas.

[Mike Boudet]

Tina's family gathered around the hospital bed to say their goodbyes. They found themselves in a situation that, unfortunately, many have experienced. Their eldest family member was dying. From the outside looking in, this likely seemed like a common occurrence. Tragic, yes, but common. Old people die every day, and their loved ones have to say goodbye. That's just how life goes sometimes. Though this situation with Tina and her family was anything but common. The doctor told the family that Tina was dying from heart failure, but they all knew better. They all knew that this wasn't a case where an elderly woman's life was simply coming to an end. They knew that Tina didn't just end up in a hospital bed. She was put there.

[Carly Hyland]

Just remember sitting in the waiting room, just not knowing what was going on, but also, like, there's no way that she's gonna die. Like, she just went through this terrible situation. Like, there's no way that that's going to happen one after the other. And I just felt so bad for her because she had survived this terrible tragedy, and she can't even, like, see it through.

[Mike Boudet]

About a month before this tragic day at the hospital, Tina had been assaulted. And there's no word in the English language to describe just how horrific that assault was, putting it mildly. What Tina experienced was beyond brutal and extremely cruel.

[Joshua]

What happened to her that night was something that doesn't happen in Adams Count. That's a movie, you, Honor. That's something you watch on Halloween to scare you. That's not real life. But it was real life for Tina Loman.

[Mike Boudet]

On November 9, 2021, Tina and her family were traumatized by what had happened to her. The depravity of what Tina endured was more than any of them could bear. This is Tina's oldest grandson, Joshua.

[Joshua]

She helped me, raised me. She was like my second mom. We had a very close bond. She always tell me how much she loved me. She adored my forage Children. She made sure they were spoiled on every birthday and Christmas. She loved Christmas and she loved giving gifts. However, as I watched the trial and learned the gruesome details, I became physically sick. How could you have done that to my grandma?

[Mike Boudet]

The evil that Tina saw and experienced was beyond comprehension. And her family knew why her heart was failing. Tina was dying because she was brutally assaulted. Tina was dying from a broken heart. The assault she endured was killing her. And Tina's family wanted the people responsible to pay. They wanted justice. Unfortunately, Tina's family would come to find that the justice they were seeking was elusive. And the struggle to get it became a never ending battle.

[Carly Hyland]

I don't think anything can prepare you for what we went through. I think it's just still, it's. We're still not even over it. I don't know if we ever will be.

[Mike Boudet]

Many of you know, or at least you can imagine the pain and the grief that comes with losing a parent or a grandparent. It can be the most tragic thing that a family can experience. This was the case for Tina's family, but for them, things were much worse. They were saddled with the burden of fighting for justice. And the fight became another tragedy. All on its. Roughly 100 miles north of St. Louis and near the edge of Missouri's eastern border is the small city of Quincy, Illinois. Quincy is the county seat of Adams county with a population of 40,000 people. Throughout 2022 and 2023, many Quincy residents became well informed about a crime that occurred in their city in November of 2021. Some refer to this crime as the Tina Loman case. One of the reasons why so many people knew so much about this case was because it was covered extensively by the local news outlet, Muddy River News.

[David Adam]

My name is David Adam and I'm the editor of Muddy River News. My involvement with the Tina Loman case was that I covered the case for Muddy River News. And I was there for just about every motion hearing, status hearing, trial, you name it. I was there, you know, 50, 60 times, possibly throughout the course of this ordeal.

[Mike Boudet]

David Adam wrote and published countless articles about the Tina Loman case. And he was pretty much the perfect person to do it. Not only because he was a professional news editor, but also because he was and continues to be a lifelong resident of, of Quincy, Illinois.

[David Adam]

The best way that I think I can describe Quincy, it has everything a big city has. It just has one of everything. There's really nothing here that you can't do in St. Louis, Chicago, Kansas City, but there's just One of them here.

[Mike Boudet]

In speaking with David, we learned that he loves his city. And despite his coverage of countless criminal cases, he does consider Quincy to be a great place to live and an ideal place to raise a family.

[David Adam]

I believe most parts of Quincy are a safe place to live. Absolutely. Sure. There's a couple of places in town that I would be a little leery of, maybe. But I have a lot of confidence in law enforcement around here. I'm a big fan of many of the people who work for law enforcement around here.

[Mike Boudet]

When it comes to David's opinions about Quincy, he isn't alone. Many of the residents feel the same way about their city. In 2021, that included a woman named Tina Loman.

[Tina Loman]

At 77 years old, Tina Loman had raised four children. She was a wife, a mother, a grandmother, and a great grandmother. She ran a successful hot business. But to Tina, what was most important was her family.

[Mike Boudet]

77 year old Tina Loman had four children, two daughters and two sons. They are Heidi, Chip, Derek, and her youngest daughter, Ilsa.

[Ilsa Terrell]

My name is Ilsa Terrell and I'm Tina Loman's youngest daughter. My mom was 77 and she worked at American Builder Supply.

[Mike Boudet]

Tina was also a grandmother to several grandchildren, all of which were adored by Tina. One of her grandchildren is a young woman named Carly.

[Carly Hyland]

My name is Carly Hyland. I am Tina Loman's granddaughter. So just to kind of put that in perspective, my mother is Heidi Young, who is her oldest daughter.

[Mike Boudet]

By the age of 77, Tina Loman had lived a very interesting life, which began on March 30, 1944. Tina was the daughter of Earl and Mildred Lowman.

[Carly Hyland]

I know she was born and raised in California. She was an only child. My great grandmother struggled to have children, so my grandma was her miracle child. She wasn't able to have any children after my grandmother, so she was very spoiled as a child.

[Mike Boudet]

Tina was born into a wealthy family, and her father's business led her to attend classes in Sorbonne University in Paris, France, as well as London, England's school of Economics.

[Ilsa Terrell]

My grandfather was president of Bechtel Oil Company and they traveled overseas. She was in London and she'd been everywhere. She went to college in London.

[Carly Hyland]

Her father was big in the oil industry in Europe, so she lived in Italy for a while. She was able to travel to, like, around Europe. Paris, Italy.

[Mike Boudet]

Throughout her youth, Tina traveled through the country and eventually she and her family made their way back to the United States. Once there, they decided to settle down in the small city of Quincy.

[Ilsa Terrell]

My grandmother was originally from here, as my grandfather was. And they came back for some family problems and an elderly great grandmother, and she ended up meeting my father.

[Carly Hyland]

But she loved it here and her mother loved it here. It just appealed to them because it's close to big city cities like Chicago and St. Louis, but it's far enough away to where it has that small town feel.

[Mike Boudet]

As an only child, the idea of having a lot of babies and making a big family appealed to Tina. So that's exactly what she did.

[Joshua]

Did Tina have children?

[G]

Yes.

[Joshua]

How many children did she have? She had four children. Did she have 14 grandkids? Yes. And 17 great grandchildren and probably more.

[Mike Boudet]

Yeah. Tina was the matriarch of what became a very big and very close family for her children, grandchildren and great grandchildren. Being related to Tina Loman was a pretty lucky situation.

[Ilsa Terrell]

I was very close with my mom. I saw her every day. I was her youngest, so I was spoiled rotten. She was always happy to take me to anything I had to do. She was just always there for me. My mom was always laughing, always happy. She liked going out for dinner and drinking red wine. She loved shopping. She loved Christmas and loved buying all of her grandchildren and children Christmas gifts.

[Carly Hyland]

Being the granddaughter of Tina Lohman was delightful. She knew how to spoil kids and her grandkids. She definitely made you feel loved. You know, I could always go to her if. If I just needed a vent or if I needed chocolate ice cream. Whatever she was, she's always willing to listen to you. I couldn't ask for a better grandma. You just felt love when you were around her.

[Mike Boudet]

Tina was a loving and lovable mother, grandmother and great grandmother. But she wasn't the typical white haired woman you might find in a Hallmark Christmas movie. Tina Lohman had a bit of an edge.

[Carly Hyland]

She was so funny. Oh, she loved to laugh. She was a sassy little thing. She had some attitude about her, but I love that about her. She didn't have a filter. You knew exactly what she thought about you. But she was also so kind. So even though she's a little sassy, she was so sweet and caring and so empathetic. She loved spending time with her kids and her grandkids, mainly her great grandkids, actually. She loved babies. So whenever we all started having kids, that's just what she lived for. She loved having a big family. She was an only child, so just having a big family just really fulfilled her. That's kind of where her love language was, was just buying all of the kids things, toys, clothes. She just was very thoughtful.

[Mike Boudet]

As a thoughtful woman who enjoyed buying gifts for her family, Tina loved the Christmas season. This was her time to shine. And every year she went out of her way to make sure all the kids were spoiled.

[Carly Hyland]

Most of my childhood memories were just at her house. She would decorate to the nines. Her tree was beautiful. Every year she wrapped her gifts so beautifully, she made her own bows.

[Mike Boudet]

In early November of 2021, Tina was already thinking about the upcoming holidays. She had big plans for that Christmas. And like every other Christmas before, she wanted to make this Christmas the best one yet.

[Tina Loman]

And on November 9, 2021, she was looking forward to celebrating the upcoming Thanksgiving and Christmas holidays with her family. She was looking forward to spending those holidays with her husband, her children, her 14 grandchildren and her 17 great grandchildren.

[Mike Boudet]

On the evening of November 9, 2021, Tina Loman left the business she owned and operated with her husband and began driving home.

[Carly Hyland]

She loved to work just to keep her mind busy. She really didn't need to work, but she loved her customers and she loved the social interaction.

[Mike Boudet]

Tina's plan for that evening was to arrive home and grab a quick nap before going out to dinner with her husband. But things didn't work out as planned. On her way home, something happened that changed her life and the lives of her children, grandchildren and great grandchildren forever. On her way home that evening, Tina Loman crossed paths with a monster. In early November of 2021, 77 year old Tina Loman was living in Quincy, Illinois with her husband. The couple owned and operated a successful business together and they were thankful to live in what they had come to know as a very safe city. Tina had no reason to think otherwise. After all, she lived in Quincy for years. She successfully raised four happy and healthy children there. This included her youngest daughter, Ilsa.

[Ilsa Terrell]

Quincy is kind of a river town where you know everyone and a small community and you feel pretty safe. You have felt safe here raising children and going to school. Everyone's like family.

[Mike Boudet]

On the evening of Nov. 9, 2021, Tina Loman left work and began driving home. But she didn't get very far before she decided to pull over.

[Ilsa Terrell]

It was around close to 5pm and my mom was leaving work. She was traveling down Broadway to approximately 48th street and went over to Cook's Lane.

[Carly Hyland]

My grandma was having issues with her headlights. One thing about her is she was not very tech savvy. Even though her car was pretty simple, she didn't understand what was going on with the headlights. So instead of trying to figure it out while she was Driving, she decided to pull over.

[Ilsa Terrell]

Then she pulled over approximately down on the bottom roads by Cook's Lane and realized that she couldn't get her lights turned on.

[Mike Boudet]

The sun was going down, and it had started to rain. Tina expected that the headlights on her car would turn on automatically, as that's what had always happened before. But for some reason, on this evening, Tina's headlights didn't turn on, and she didn't know how to fix them.

[Tina Loman]

Sergeant Lohmeyer, did you learn that her name was Tina Lohman?

[G]

Yes.

[Tina Loman]

And did you ask her what had happened?

[G]

Yes. She said she was on her way home. It was evening time. She drives a car where the headlights typically turn on automatically. Someone else had used the car previously, and or somehow the automatic thing was not working. So as it was starting to get dark, she was concerned about the lights. So she stopped on North Bottom Road to try to fix the light situation.

[Mike Boudet]

Tina was alone at dusk and parked on the side of a fairly isolated road. She was worried and maybe a little scared, but she assumed everything would eventually be okay. She knew that her husband would inevitably be driving down the same road that she was parked on.

[Carly Hyland]

So the road she lives on, it's. It's on the bottom road. So she knew that when her husband would eventually come down that road to go home, you know, he would see her. There was only one way, really, to her house, which was on that road.

[Mike Boudet]

Tina fiddled with the knobs on her steering wheel, hoping that some switch or lever would ignite her headlights. But nothing did. At the same time, Tina kept checking her rear view mirrors, hoping that the next car she saw would be her husband's car. But that never happened.

[G]

She said a truck pulled up behind her. A man got out. She initially felt that he was there to help her with whatever situation she was having.

[Mike Boudet]

A truck drove up and parked behind Tina. A man stepped out of that truck and approached Tina's driver's side window.

[Ilsa Terrell]

She was just happy that someone had stopped because she was scared that she didn't want to go out on the next turn where there was heavier traffic. There was a male who pulled over, and he went to go get a flashlight and was thinking he was coming back with a flashlight.

[Mike Boudet]

The man offered to help Tina but fix her headlights. He told her that first he needed to retrieve a flashlight from his truck. As he did this, Tina looked in her rearview mirror, and she noticed something. Another person was sitting in the passenger seat of the man's truck.

[Tina Loman]

Did she also, Ms. Loman, also indicate to you there was another Individual present with the white man with the scruffy hair?

[G]

Yes.

[Tina Loman]

Did she know who that individual was?

[Mike Boudet]

No.

[Tina Loman]

Did you ask her about that person as well to try to get information to find that person as well?

[G]

Yes.

[Tina Loman]

What did she tell you about the person that was with that white man with the scruffy hair?

[G]

A shorter black female.

[Mike Boudet]

Tina sat in her car and waited for the man to return with his flashlight. She was hopeful that the man would resolve her headlight situation and Tina would soon be back on the road. Of course, Tina did consider the possibility that the man who stopped to help her could be dangerous. But she quickly put that thought out of her mind. That possibility wasn't likely at all.

[Tina Loman]

How do you think she felt? Was she relieved? Did she think she was going to get help? Was she scared? Was something bad about to happen? But she was 77 years old, and this is Quincy. Nothing bad happens in Quincy, right? In Quincy, when you have trouble, people stop, they pull over, and they help you.

[Mike Boudet]

This mindset that Quincy, Illinois, is a safe and friendly place is not uncommon. Many of its residents feel that way about their city.

[David Adam]

Maybe I'm, you know, I have rose colored glasses, I have a Pollyanna ish way of looking at things, But I think most people in Quincy, Illinois, would have seen somebody walk up helping her. I believe it was a rainy night. It was kind of at dusk, you know, so it's getting dark, and she saw somebody walk up. And I believe that she's lived in this community long enough that she was going, hey, finally I got someone who's going to help me here. I would like to think that had that been my car pulling up next to her, that I would have got out on a rainy. On a rainy night and said, hey, what can I do to help you out here? I think that's kind of the way, you know, Quincy isn't Mayberry, but it's definitely a town, I believe, that has the type of people who would have no problem stepping up and helping a woman in distress in a situation like this.

[Carly Hyland]

You think that when someone pulls over to help you that there's no ill intent, like they genuinely want to help you. And she's an older lady pulled over on the side of the road. It's dark. And so her thought was not immediate danger. Her thought was maybe that these people can help me just turn on my headlights so that I can get back home.

[Mike Boudet]

Tina just wanted to go home and take a nap. So she waited for the man to return to her car with a flashlight as a testament to the kind of person Tina was, she was already thinking about how she was going to thank this man for stopping to help her resolve her car trouble. While waiting in her car, Tina reached for her purse.

[Ilsa Terrell]

My mom was excited that someone had pulled over. And she also, when they pulled over, they would go get a flashlight and she pulled $20 out of her wallet to give them for stopping and helping her.

[Mike Boudet]

After pulling $20 from her wallet, Tina looked in the rear view mirror again and eventually saw the man walking back toward her car. Whether he had a flashlight or not, we don't know. But what we do know is that this man had no intention of helping Tina.

[David Adam]

And I remember having seen some video of her in which I believe she was like, oh, good, they might be able to help me. And that's kind of when her nightmare started.

[Mike Boudet]

When the man returned to Tina's driver's side door, she looked at him. Tina didn't see a friendly face. She saw a face filled with ill intent and violence. Like David Adam explained, this was the moment that a long nightmare began for Tina. This was the moment when her life and the lives of her children, grandchildren, and great grandchildren took a very, very dark next time on this doesn't happen to people Like Me.

[Tina Loman]

When you went into the residence further, did you observe an individual inside of that residence?

[Mike Boudet]

Yes.

[Tina Loman]

Tina's husband, Tim Schmidt, arrived home. He found Tina on the floor crying and bleeding, Crying that she'd been raped, Bleeding from her body. Tim, her husband had a gun. Because Tina was so terrified the defendant and his accomplice were going to come back.

[Joshua]

Did she appear to be emotional to you?

[David Adam]

Yes, she did.

[Joshua]

Did she tell you that she was worried they were going to come back?

[Carly Hyland]

Yes, she did.

[Mike Boudet]

Please subscribe if you can. We'll see you right back here before you know it.

[Carly Hyland]

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