#604 - Jim Jefferies

Summary

This Past Weekend w/ Theo Von

Episode #604 – Jim Jefferies
Date: August 20, 2025
Guest: Jim Jefferies
Host: Theo Von
Main Theme: Comedy, family, personal growth, grief, Australia, culture, politics, and the international comedy scene

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Episode Overview

In this compelling and wide-ranging conversation, Theo Von welcomes comedian Jim Jefferies, fresh off the release of his 10th stand-up special, Two Limb Policy. The episode delves well beyond comedy, as Jim candidly opens up about sobriety, family, the tragic loss of his nephew Lieutenant Max Nugent, and an alleged government coverup in Australia. The two explore humorous and serious topics: the evolution of the international comedy scene, cultural quirks between the US and Australia, cancel culture, and the anxiety of the modern world. Throughout, both keep their signature wit and vulnerability, pivoting from deep emotion to irreverent laughs.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Check-Ins and Life Changes

[00:55–04:18]

• Theo opens up about feeling stressed and unsure if his life is on the right track.
• Jim reaffirms Theo’s progress, recalling their first collaboration on a Comedy Central pilot and encouraging Theo to "ride the wave" (01:19).
• Jim discusses his recent sobriety (5 years without alcohol or cigarettes), but clarifies he still uses weed and doesn't claim total sobriety (02:50).

“It's very hard...where you go ‘I'm giving up drink’ and you put a big flag in the ground...and then you let everyone down when you slip up. So I kept the first bit of my sobriety sort of to myself...”
—Jim Jefferies [04:19]

He highlights the challenges of “public” sobriety and the pitfalls of relapse under the microscope of fame (04:19).

2. Sobriety & Addiction in Comedy

[04:18–07:36]

• Jim reflects on his history of on-again, off-again sobriety—sometimes making it the theme of his specials (e.g., Fully Functional), only to relapse later.
• Both Theo and Jim share their patterns with alcohol and how relapses become harder to publicly navigate when you’ve announced your sobriety.
• Jim talks about how cocaine masked some effects of his drinking:

“When you stop cocaine… you start to look more drunk...I just look worse because I'm sweating and, you know, because cocaine keeps you upright.”
—Jim Jefferies [07:42]

• Jim touches on the impact of his drinking on his family, especially being recognized by his young son when intoxicated (08:16).

3. Family, Humor, and Grief

[09:09–16:16]

• Jim discusses how humor runs in his family, “me and [my brother] sort of get together like we're in a Jedi council and we decide who’s got the gift” (09:30).
• Theo & Jim reflect on how kids’ personalities blossom and become apparent through their humor or uniqueness (10:03).
• The tone pivots to deep vulnerability as Jim shares about the death of his nephew, Lt. Max Nugent, in a military helicopter crash, and the subsequent alleged Australian government cover-up (10:22–16:44).

"There’s been a cover up by what I believe, the Australian government...the helicopters, taken them apart and buried them in the desert...If you want to find an Australian Taipan helicopter, you need a treasure map."
—Jim Jefferies [12:23], [13:48]

• Jim describes the tragedy and the family’s search for answers, detailing the inquiry and the emotional toll on those left behind.

“At the very least, I’d like my nephew’s death not to be forgotten. I’d like him to be remembered.”
—Jim Jefferies [14:25]

• They honor Max Nugent on the show, reminiscing about his life and Australian military history (15:00–16:54).

4. Australia–US Relations & Trade Talk

[16:54–19:10]

• Jim discusses Australia’s loyalty to the US in war and questions why they’re targeted by US tariffs, using comedic analogies to point out the absurdity (16:54–18:21).
• The conversation lampoons Australia's main exports and American import quirks: "What do you really buy from us? You buy sheepskin, red wine, beef and gold and diamonds and stuff. It's luxury items." (18:21)

5. Comedy, Cancel Culture, and Stand-Up Politics

[27:41–31:16]

• Jim considers why he couldn’t name his new Netflix special “Hitler,” despite jokingly citing algorithmic advantages, and riffs on his popularity in Europe versus Germany (28:39–29:13).
• Theo and Jim dissect the “Two Limb Policy,” which humorously sets criteria for backstage access to fans with disabilities post-show:

“If you aren’t one of the classics, I have a two limb policy. You can’t just be, like, a fat who lost your foot to diabetes. That doesn’t get you backstage.”
—Jim Jefferies [30:38]

• Jim shares his journey in interacting with fans after shows, and how he's navigated the influx of requests and the challenge of drawing boundaries.

6. Reflections on Australian & Global Culture

[31:16–53:10]

• The duo gets into a rapid-fire, lighthearted exploration of famous Australians (Hugh Jackman, Russell Crowe, ACDC, Chris Lilley, etc.), sports heroes, and culture.
• They swap observations on why certain sports and cultural trends catch on—or don’t—across countries, especially basketball in the UK (40:31) and the sudden surge of Australian NBA and NFL players (65:44–66:54).
• Jim playfully ranks Chris Lilley as “the greatest Australian entertainer,” above even international icons (38:41).
• Jim highlights the assimilation of various immigrant groups in Australia (Italians, Greeks, Asians, etc.) and evolving attitudes toward diversity (57:57–60:04).

7. International Comedy & Performing Abroad

[72:01–74:59]

• Jim discusses performing in Saudi Arabia for the Riyadh Comedy Festival alongside global heavyweights. He addresses criticism about performing in countries with human rights concerns, defending the value of exporting free speech:

“What better than basically, we are freedom of speech machines being sent over there. What better? They haven’t asked. They have not at one stage asked to see our material…They've picked some fucking edgy ass comedians.”
—Jim Jefferies [74:05], [74:39]

8. Global Anxiety, American Politics, and the Surveillance State

[94:44–108:44]

• The episode shifts to global anxiety, US and Australian politics, and the feeling of government becoming increasingly distant from citizens.
• They dive into the threats and realities of surveillance, with facial recognition and control, relating it to international travel and differences in passport ownership.
• Jim offers candid takes on Trump, the futility of political arguments, and the need for practical policy over noise:

“Stop fucking telling me how bad he is and figure out a way to fucking beat him ... there is no beating him now. It's just riding it out.”
—Jim Jefferies [100:21], [100:48]

• The two touch on the Israel-Gaza conflict, expressing pain and frustration at global tragedies and advocating for practical solutions over partisanship (101:45–103:35).

9. Aliens, Australian Myths, and Closing Thoughts

[107:27–111:45]

• The conversation turns to UFO sightings and folklore—Jim describes seeing a UFO over Area 51 and discusses the Australian "bunyip" myth and the unique platypus (97:00–98:45).
• Both wonder about the future, society’s direction, and express hope for people’s happiness and safety.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On sobriety & fame:
  "It's very hard...I'm giving up drink...and then you let everyone down when you slip up."
  —Jim Jefferies [04:19]

• On the family’s grief:
  "At the very least, I'd like my nephew's death not to be forgotten. I'd like him to be remembered."
  —Jim Jefferies [14:25]

• On comedy boundaries:
  "If you aren’t one of the classics, I have a two limb policy."
  —Jim Jefferies [30:38]

• On Australian exports and tariffs:
  “It's like me buying...a prostitute, then ringing up the next week and going, ‘I'd like to do it again, but this time you’ll pay.’”
  —Jim Jefferies [18:21]

• On Saudi festival controversy:
  "We are freedom of speech machines being sent over there...They've picked some fucking edgy ass comedians."
  —Jim Jefferies [74:05], [74:39]

• On government and the future:
  “The government feels further and further away from the people more than ever.”
  —Theo Von [17:06]

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Important Segments & Timestamps

| Time | Segment | |----------|----------------------------------------------------| | 00:55–04:18 | Life check-ins, stress, sobriety journey | | 10:16–16:44 | Family grief: the loss and legacy of Max Nugent | | 28:39–31:16 | Two Limb Policy—navigating backstage and disability humor | | 38:40–46:17 | Australian entertainment & Chris Lilley tributes | | 65:44–66:54 | Australians in the NFL—cultural crossover | | 72:01–75:10 | Saudi Arabia comedy festival & free speech | | 99:15–104:23| Society, surveillance, and modern anxieties | | 107:27–108:44| UFO sightings and reflections on the unknown | | 110:04–111:45| Jim’s plugs and goodbyes: Specials, TV, movies |

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Tone & Style

Jim Jefferies and Theo Von maintain a balance of humor and sincerity, sharing deeply personal experiences while keeping the conversation lively and brimming with jokes and asides. Their candor on topics like addiction, grief, culture, and politics is interspersed with naturally flowing banter and irreverent wit.

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Final Thoughts

This episode stands out for its heartfelt tribute to Jim’s nephew, the real-time grappling with loss, and honest talk about the realities of sobriety. The wide-ranging conversation touches on what it means to be a comedian, a parent, and a global citizen during uncertain times—delivered with the sharp punchlines and quick pivots both hosts are known for. Whether you’re a fan of Jim’s comedy, interested in international perspectives, or looking to hear a nuanced take on grief and resilience, this episode delivers both laughs and empathy in equal measure.

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Jim Jefferies’ specials, including “Two Limb Policy,” are now streaming on Netflix. Check out his new podcast “Atmosphere” (with Amos Gill), his role in an upcoming Jordan Peele film (“Called Him”), and his new reality show “The Snake” on Fox.

Transcript

[Jim Jeffries]

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[Theo]

Today's guest is a stand up comedian. He's a actor, He's a podcaster. He just released his 10th stand up comedy special on Netflix. It's called Two Limb Policy. We actually want to dedicate this episode to his nephew, Lieutenant Max Nugent. Thank you for your service, sir. Today's guest is the one and only Jim. Jeffrey.

[Jim Jeffries]

Have you been. How are you doing with things?

[Theo]

I'm alive, man. What am I? I feel like I'm stressed out a lot, but it's okay. I just have to slow things down a little bit for myself. And then I just. I think sometimes you get busy and it's hard to, like, see what you're doing. You know, you're just going. And I think some of that's just life. As you get older, you're just going and you're like, do I. Am I still walking in the direction I want to be in or what's even going on, you know?

[Jim Jeffries]

Well, look you. The first time we worked together per se was on a pilot for Comedy Central. We were watching some slam poetry.

[Theo]

Oh, yeah, that was good.

[Jim Jeffries]

And now look at you. You're interviewing the top people in the world, man. So, yes, you're going in the right direction. Theo, I wouldn't be too nervous about how your life's going, you know, take the good with the bad and keep riding the wave, brother.

[Theo]

Yeah, thanks, man. Yeah, I think. Yeah, I think it's just more like, like, yeah, you just get going. You're like, what the. Where. Who. How old am I? What am I doing? You know, you just like, it's just life. Life gets going like that, man. Yours has changed. A saw you do. You had a child. You have autism.

[Jim Jeffries]

Well, autism is such a hard thing to put your finger on. Is it? You know what I mean? Like. Like, I might just be an. You know, people always say so. You know, I had. I had one doctor say, oh, we think that you're on the spectrum and things, but there's such a rainbow of where you can be and what, you know, you could be functioning to completely unfunctioning, needing help all your. All your life. So I look, you know, when I was a kid, they tried to go, you have attention deficit disorder. And then dyslexia. I'm positive. Autism. I'm pretty sure on. I Don't think I had attention deficit disorder. I was just filled for Ritalin as a child. That okay. But yes, I have had another kid since I've seen you. I've got a, I've got a 12 year old and a 4 year old and I've sobered up. Even more importantly, since we last saw each other, I haven't had a drink in close to five years.

[Theo]

Oh, congratulations, dude. How's that change? I mean, that must have changed everything.

[Jim Jeffries]

I still, I still partake in weed, so I'm not sober. So beside, I don't want to preach that I am completely sober.

[Theo]

But you don't drink.

[Jim Jeffries]

But I haven't had a drink or a cigarette in years. It was, it happened during COVID I started drinking at home and I used to have a policy that I'd only drink at work. You know.

[Theo]

It'S obviously an Irish policy.

[Jim Jeffries]

Yeah, yeah. I was like, I can drink at work, you know, because I can have a couple of beers before a show and I can have a couple of, you know, spirits after the show. And, and, and you know, you can go in the dressing room in the Comedy Store and say, give me a vodka Red Bull or whatever if you're a bit tired or something. And then when Covid happened, I started drinking at home and excessively, like, how.

[Theo]

Early, like, were you getting up and cracking one?

[Jim Jeffries]

Oh, yeah, I was, I was getting right into it. And then, and then my wife gets pregnant and she's not drinking. And I was probably quite unpleasant to live with. And I thought out of solidarity, I won't drink with her, you know, and then, you know, look, I very clearly had a drinking problem and it played out in front of people so many times. You know, I had my third special, we're here to promote my tenth special two limb policy out on Netflix right now. But my third special was called Fully Functional. And it was all about how I had given up alcohol and I was, you know, fully functional and I was doing comedy sober. And I then I was drunk in the next one.

[Theo]

Wow.

[Jim Jeffries]

You know what I mean? And so it's very hard. And I've watched people do this that are in the limelight where you go, I'm giving up drink. And you put a big flag in the ground and you say, I'm a non drinker. And then you let everyone down. You know, you let everyone down when you slip up and all that type of stuff. So I kept the first bit of my sobriety sort of to myself until I came out of co. I was A couple years in, before I started telling people, and now I don't really miss it. I tell you what, I missed a cigarette. I went and saw Oasis in concert, and they were playing cigarettes and alcohol and people were lighting up in Wembley Stadium. And just like, there's so many people smoking. Security wasn't doing all.

[Theo]

Yeah.

[Jim Jeffries]

And I was like. I was like, yeah, I wanted to light up more then than I ever had, but I pushed through that, you know, And I had a tragedy in my life. I didn't smoke because they always say with smokers, they go, you're always a smoker when the. You know, the chips are down. Yeah, right. And I had a big tragedy in my life, and I didn't light up, so I think I've kicked that. Well, I hope I have so kind.

[Theo]

Of taught you a lesson or at least showed you you had some progress or something right there, dude. Yeah, I remember, like, because in one of your specials, I distinctly remember you, like, having a beer and getting through your beer pretty quick. And then, like, I even remember. I think there was one where there was a couple of glasses sitting on a table, like, empty glasses.

[Jim Jeffries]

I think people thought this was a thing. On one of my specials, I had a big wooden box on the thing, and I would pull a beer from out of the wooden box, and the crowd would cheer each time because, oh, he's bringing out another one. He's bringing another one. But we all know you record two shows for a special, right? You do two performances. You primarily use one and then maybe edit a joke in that you haven't done or whatever like that. And so for continuity, we had to hide the pints behind the box. So. But we edited in every pint that I did drink. So it does. It did. It did look like I had.

[Theo]

I remember it's looking at a. I was like, God.

[Jim Jeffries]

I think it was because it was like, six pints in an hour. You can't. Like, no one's doing six pints. And I was doing three pints in each other. Six pints in an hour seems a little exciting. It's a lot.

[Theo]

Yeah, it seems like a lot.

[Jim Jeffries]

You don't drink, right? How long have you been.

[Theo]

I had probably. I think in my. The most time I had, I probably had six years, and then I had two. One. Then I've. I've had, like, groups of months, you know.

[Jim Jeffries]

That's exactly. So when I did fully function, I had two years, got drunk again, then had a year, and now we're on a five year.

[Theo]

Yeah.

[Jim Jeffries]

And So I don't know if I'll, you know, maybe I'll drink again. But the problem is, every time I've taken drinking back up, every time I've taken it back up, I've been good for six months, right? It's like. It's not like I become like, barney, Gumball and take a sip and go, oh, like that. I'm like, all right, I had two. I'm good. And then I think I can handle. I think I can handle. I think I can handle. And then I'm back to what happens. I'm a sloppy drunk.

[Theo]

Are you. Does that mean. Is it what comes out of you? Is it, like, aggression? Is it yelling at a neighbor? Is it racism? Like, how do you notice it flare up?

[Jim Jeffries]

You know, it's blackout, man. I don't remember a single thing. And so then also, when you add fame into the mix and someone will say, hey, I met you, and then you did abc, or you said this, that, and the other, you can't even prove them wrong. And even when it's something where you go, I've never done that. That doesn't sound like me at all. I can't remember the night at all. I was blacking out. And that's why it sort of got comfortable at home with, who gives a. If you blackout at home?

[Theo]

Yeah. Everybody says a virus. People are dying or whatever. Fat people are coughing to death. Like, yeah, it's a different time.

[Jim Jeffries]

But I. But also, like, when you stop cocaine, you stop cocaine. I started to look more drunk. That's when people were getting into me going, you need to take control of your Dr. Drinking. And you're like, oh, no, no, I've just given up. Another thing. Yeah, I'm actually in recovery this way. But I just look worse because I'm sweating and, you know, because cocaine keeps you upright.

[Theo]

Yeah, yeah. It helps with the posture.

[Jim Jeffries]

Good for the posture.

[Theo]

Oh, definitely. You see a guy, like, straight up, here we go. I'm back. I'm a buoy. I. Did your kid notice or anything like that or.

[Jim Jeffries]

No, my. Yeah, my little boy at that stage would have been about 7, and he knew when I was drunk. Yeah. And. And there was definitely times that. That he would be like a child out of a movie. Daddy, are you having a drink again? You know what I mean? But you're like, yes. Where'd you hear that sentence? Was that from the lady I gave a house to? You know what I mean? But, yeah.

[Theo]

Yeah.

[Jim Jeffries]

Daddy having a drink. He laughs about it now. Like, sounds like a song I think he was just teasing me, really. I don't think he was ever bothered or upset about it.

[Theo]

Yeah, maybe he just had a really good sense of humor, you know.

[Jim Jeffries]

He's got a great sense of humor, my boy. He's got a great sense of humor.

[Theo]

Does he?

[Jim Jeffries]

Yeah, he does. It's, I've got nieces and nephews and obviously my kids and me. I've got two brothers and one brother is very nice man, has a good sense of humor. Can't tell a joke to save his life.

[Theo]

Yeah.

[Jim Jeffries]

And then I got another brother who's is as funny as me. And you might not think I'm funny, but like me and him are both the funny ones. Right. Me and him sort of get together like we're in a Jedi council and we decide who's got the gift or not. When the children are about three or four, you start going, oh, I think it's strong with this one.

[Theo]

Yeah, yeah.

[Jim Jeffries]

So I've got, I've got both my boys, I think, like guessing if your.

[Theo]

Kids are gay too. They do that kind of the same thing.

[Jim Jeffries]

Yeah. You start to look early, you go, I don't know about. Yeah, maybe it's all right though. As long as he's happy. Yes. I've got, I've got a, I've got a couple of, out of, I won't say who because they might all listen to this. So out of, out of my five nephews and nieces, two of them have it. Two, two of them have it. I won't say which ones, but they know, they know who it is. They know who they are. Yeah.

[Theo]

It is kind of funny to see kids develop and then you start to see their personality and then like. Yeah. When they do something that makes you laugh or they have like a unique way of looking at things or if they start to seem cool, that's pretty neat. You're like, oh, this kid' cool. That's dope.

[Jim Jeffries]

I had, I, I was talking about the tragedy. I don't know why I bring, I.

[Theo]

Had a. Yeah, no, you said that something had occurred.

[Jim Jeffries]

I, I, my nephew died in a helicopter accident. Oh yeah. And we made the news in Australia and I want to sort of talk about it a little bit because there's been a cover up by what I believe, the Australian government. So I'm getting into conspiracy theory now for welcome but okay, so you can check this online. My nephew, Lieutenant Max Nugent was in a helicopter. Now how, how Australian a death is this? He crashed a hel up near the bit above the Great Barrier Reef for the military and was eaten by sharks like his remains. There was no remains left. So that's pretty Australian, you know, that's pretty.

[Theo]

I mean it's a high velocity. It almost sounds like something would be sponsored by Red Bull, you know.

[Jim Jeffries]

So he was, he was on pretty high velocity. He was on military war games flying a taipan helicopter. And they were in a group of four flying along. America was there as well. There was 30, 000 soldiers from all of our allies around the world. And the, the helicopter crashes.

[Theo]

So it's a games, it's a competition.

[Jim Jeffries]

They play basic war games. So they're in formation for taipan helicopters, the helicopter crashes. They wear these helmets that were completely. It's just like all the readings are in there, you know. I don't know why they can't just do it in an office like a drone, you know what I mean? But, but they're in the helicopter and they're looking all their things. The helicopter hits the water, the four men on the helicopter die instantly. And within a matter of a couple of weeks Australia had decommissioned the helicopters, taken them apart and buried them in the desert. The Ukraine said, we'll take the helicopters. And the Australians went, no, no, no, no, no, don't you worry about that. Then my brother and my niece and my sister in law had to sit through an inquiry that went on for almost two years whether the government was responsible or not. Where the test pilot stood up and said that those helmets were defective and would end in industrial manslaughter. Right.

[Theo]

So this was documented that they, this.

[Jim Jeffries]

Was documented in the inquiry. Right. It's like watching a few good men like talking about the military and the government trying to cover its assets said that it would. They also the weather invite. It was raining really badly. Other countries didn't go out on patrol that day. They said the weather was too bad, the soldiers were too tired. One of the soldiers said that they were so tired they couldn't fly the aircraft. And then my nephew stepped in. Oh, to actually do it, there's just so. And it was just so much. And then they made it until they had I believe five days to actually put in a civil suit to sue the government or the statute of limitations ran out and the inquiry ended with five days. Who has five days to get a law? They, they dragged it out on purpose. On purpose so that we. Now I get that the world's going to war. Well, the world's it, it's. We're in a war. Everyone, whether it Kicks off more, who knows, Right. But the Australian military might be going into a war scene pretty soon. Right. Anything you guys do, we'll do as well.

[Theo]

Yeah.

[Jim Jeffries]

Right. So they can't be paying out every soldier who dies or whatever like that. But this was not. This was a war games. There was. There was things that weren't followed, there was things that have been. There's literally helicopters that have been buried. If you want to find an Australian Taipan helicopter, you need a treasure map.

[Theo]

Wow.

[Jim Jeffries]

So I, I just. The only reason I'm bringing up here.

[Theo]

No, let's bring it up.

[Jim Jeffries]

If it's wrong, is you've got such a. A big platform, mate. And I just wanted to sort of get that bit of information out. You can go on to my Instagram. I've put up all the clips there. Or just. Just Google the. The accident. I'm not a big conspiracy theory guy, but it seems pretty shady to me.

[Theo]

And were you able to. Were you able to. Like, how do you even go about combating that? Or like getting in investigations into this?

[Jim Jeffries]

I don't know. I think. I think I'm doing it right now.

[Theo]

Yeah.

[Jim Jeffries]

I think this is all I can physically do. At the very least, I'd like my nephew's death not to be forgotten. I'd like him to be remembered. And what I've seen my brother go through, you wouldn't put on Danny Parent losing their child. Right. You wouldn't put it on to anybody.

[Theo]

Let's bring up a picture of a Mr. Nugent.

[Jim Jeffries]

Max Nugent. Max Nugent. Lieutenant. The thing is, he grew mustache just before he. Because. Yeah, because there. There he is. He looked like he was. He looked like he was from the 19 4. He looked like he'd just come back from beating some Germans, didn't he?

[Theo]

He definitely looks like a time traveler.

[Jim Jeffries]

He was ready to go. Old Max.

[Theo]

Hello, Max.

[Jim Jeffries]

That boy, mate. I. I was. I. I remember. I remember when he was born and he was one of those guys, he just never disappointed every step along the way. He. He wanted to be a fighter pilot, but he was 6 foot 6, so I had to go in the helicopters, but.

[Theo]

Oh, because there's more room in there.

[Jim Jeffries]

Yeah, A bit more leg space.

[Theo]

Yeah, I could see that.

[Jim Jeffries]

More leg space. You don't want to be in a fighter jet and be a real tall guy, you know? Yeah.

[Theo]

With your legs or something like that.

[Jim Jeffries]

Like that. Or a maverick.

[Theo]

But he's moving the throttle with his foot. Did it. Was he your first nephew?

[Jim Jeffries]

He was my first nephew. Oh, man. He's. I keep on getting his age wrong in every interview. I believe he was 23. I believe he was 23. He's very young.

[Theo]

And was he married or.

[Jim Jeffries]

No, he had a girlfriend.

[Theo]

Oh, wow.

[Jim Jeffries]

But that he'd been living with for a short amount of time.

[Theo]

Oh, yeah.

[Jim Jeffries]

But he. He was just starting out in life. He'd just gone through all the training and stuff and graduated to be. Actually become the helicopter pilot and actually be a real, you know. You know, for everybody, everybody in the military that sees battle, I think there's 12 people behind them who are catering and supplies and this, that and the other for soldiers, you know, they're the rock stars, man. The. The fighter pilots and the helicopter pilots and stuff. We were proud of him.

[Theo]

Oh, they're the heroes. I'm sure you were. He looks like somebody very much to be proud of. That's why I wanted to get a good look at him so we can honor him.

[Jim Jeffries]

When Australia goes to war, we don't, you know, that's the first bloke we send in. We send in the planes and the helicopters. That's the first bit of assistance we send in. You know, like, I don't know if you know this, but Australia's, I believe, and New Zealand. I got to give New Zealand credit, but Australia and New Zealand are the only country that have fought alongside you for. For. For over 200 years.

[Theo]

Wow.

[Jim Jeffries]

Other countries are dipped in and out. Just for example, Britain never went to Vietnam. Australia went to Vietnam. Right. We. We. I don't know if we've been there.

[Theo]

You don't get it.

[Jim Jeffries]

I don't know if Australia gets enough credit.

[Theo]

Yeah.

[Jim Jeffries]

It's like Trump slapping tariffs on Australia. I'm a bit like, what the are you doing there, man? Where. What are you guys?

[Theo]

Yeah, these are. These are our kangaroo mates.

[Jim Jeffries]

I know you're very popular in Australia.

[Theo]

We had a good time over there, dude. It was so much fun. But, yeah, I don't understand some of what Trump's energy is about. A lot of these types of things, you know, it's very bizarre, you know, and I think it's just getting more. It's. The government feels further and further away from the people more than ever. But I think it's nice that countries like yours, a lot of countries have spoken up, like, about what's happening in the Middle east, and I feel like. And have had a voice into.

[Jim Jeffries]

It's been people now recognizing Palestine as a state.

[Theo]

Yeah. To see these. See prime ministers do that, it's important, you know, Like.

[Jim Jeffries]

Like to tariff Australia is pretty weird. We buy three times more stuff from you than you buy from us. Why would you. You know, the big example they gave was Australian beef, that you guys buy $26 billion worth of Australian beef and we buy no beef from you, and it's like, well, why would we. You want it? We've got the beef you want. We've already got it. It's like. Like buying. That's like me, like buying. Paying for a prostitute, then ringing up the next week and going, I'd like to do it again, but this time you'll pay. You like you've never seen on the bottom of. Like you see on the bottom of a menu, it always says Australian wagyu you've never seen in an American restaurant. Australian restaurant. The bottom, American beef.

[Theo]

Yeah, like Milwaukee wagyu or whatever.

[Jim Jeffries]

Yeah, yeah. No, it's. It's like, what do you really buy from us? You buy sheepskin, red wine, beef and gold and diamonds and stuff. It's luxury items. Yeah, you buy luxury items. It's not like we're fucking manufacturing fucking Happy Meal toys in Australia in factories and like, those are jobs that can go to the Americans. These aren't jobs that can go to the Americans. It's our goal. It's our diamond, it's our. You know what I mean? Like, mate, let's see what's here. Meat and edibles, pearls. Ooh, pharmaceutical. I didn't know that we did that.

[Theo]

That's beautiful.

[Jim Jeffries]

Who's buying electric equipment from Australia now? I would advise against that. After what's happened with the helmet. After what's happened with my nephew's helmet, don't be buying any Australian Samsung or whatever the fuck we call it.

[Theo]

So let's steer clear from their VR stuff. We don't need any virtual reality from over there. Did they have. So they said that his plane went down and then they don't really know what happened.

[Jim Jeffries]

They said it was pilot era in the end, but they didn't know because the. The masks invert. But at the end of the day the weather wasn't right and they shouldn't have been flying with like other countries didn't go out. And there's meant to be a certain amount of sleep that the soldiers are meant to have before I suppose that I would look up. It was actually turned out to be that my nephew. There was two blokes in the back of the helicopter and the two parts of the front and, you know, the first fear you have is was he experienced enough? Was he the one holding the controls and he wasn't, it was the more senior pilot that was holding it. My nephew wasn't holding at the time, but I have no ill will to him. Of course, you know, like, it's, it's, it's an accident. But, you know, my family had to listen to the black box. And that took a year before they played that of going in and listening to legal fucking shit going over and over again. And we'll adjourn in a month and we'll do some more and we'll adjourn in a week. And they, they spent all their holiday pay and all their days off having to watch try to get justice for their son. And then at the end they went, ah, pilot error. You can't sue or anything like that. There'll be no money paid out. And if you want to sue, you got five days to get it done. Right, that. What was your question again? Sorry. It was okay. So, yeah, so there was another bloke, another bloke actually driving it. But the, you know, the, the, the black box is just really my nephew going, oh, it's looking a bit dodgy. Pull up, plop. That's all you really get, you know, you get his final words. And that's pretty harrowing to have to listen to the final words of someone you know. It's not like they're words of wisdom, they're words of fear.

[Theo]

Right at the end there has, has it been, man? God, it's a start. It's so heartbreaking. Has it been hard to like, be a supportive brother after that? Like, was that, has that been like a challenge or interesting or what does that kind of turn into?

[Jim Jeffries]

It's, it's been not hard.

[Theo]

But what is that like?

[Jim Jeffries]

Because I, I look, I. There's a, there's a field piece I once did on the Jim Jeffrey show that, that shows me my brother's relationship because he was a police officer and I did a ride along in his car and it was just a lot of me taking the piss out of my brother. And he took it in pretty good jest. It. There's nothing to say when someone's child dies. You can just be there and you can just hug him and stuff. The only thing I could do was get on a plane right away, as soon, as soon as I knew, you know, I mean, but in some strange ways. So I've got two brothers and that. Those two haven't always gotten along. They don't dislike, they don't dislike each other. They're Just very different.

[Theo]

Yeah, different for sure.

[Jim Jeffries]

Just different dudes, man. And it's sort of. It's brought them closer together because when the shit hit the fan, the whole family was there right away. Everyone was there right away. You know, I remember going, I got there. I got on the first plane. I got there, and then my brother was waiting out the front. My other brother was waiting at the front. He goes, I don't want to go in before you go in. I want to go in with you. I just. He didn't know what to do. Yeah, so I was terrible. And watching my granddad, you know, I'm glad my mother's dead for it, to be honest, that she didn't have to be around for it, you know, what's the matter of living a few more years to see your grandchild die? You know what I mean? So it's meant to be a fun podcast, but I was just. Let's talk. Let's talk about Chris Lilly. Let's talk about Chris Lilly. Well, my comedy special. Two, then. Special coming out.

[Theo]

Yeah, we'll get right into it. But Max. Max Nugent, thank you so much for your service, sir, and happy to be thinking of you today. We'll get. You know what? We'll get a nice photo of. If it's okay with you and your brother. Maybe we can put it in here on the desk.

[Jim Jeffries]

Yeah.

[Theo]

Would that be okay?

[Jim Jeffries]

That would be wonderful. Thank you. That would mean a lot to me.

[Theo]

That'd be cool. It'd be nice to have me here with that stash, too, dude.

[Jim Jeffries]

You know, he was. Yeah, he was great. He was. He was. It was strangely, I remember thinking, when he became. When he went to Dun Trune, which is like Sandhurst or. I don't know what you call it in. What's the big military academy in America?

[Theo]

West Point. West Point.

[Jim Jeffries]

West Point. So Duntroon is the equivalent of West Point. And he didn't get in the first time, and he studied and he worked as a bartender or whatever, and then he got in the next time. And I remember thinking like, that he was just such a committed lad. And then he finished really high, top of his grade. And even though he was my nephew, even though I am over, you know, 20, I was 25 years older than the bloke. Yeah, I looked up to him. Oh, you know what I mean? I looked up to him. I thought he was kind of like a cool guy in the same way. Like, I went and did a gig the other day with the Dodgers, and I'm like, why Am I gushing over some 25 year old lads? You know what I mean? But a fighter pilot was my nephew. My blood was doing that.

[Theo]

Yeah.

[Jim Jeffries]

And I looked up to him.

[Theo]

That's cool.

[Jim Jeffries]

Sorry.

[Theo]

No, it's admirable. Well, I'll look up to him too. Thank you, you know.

[Jim Jeffries]

Thank you.

[Theo]

No, I like getting to thinking it's important.

[Jim Jeffries]

Yeah.

[Theo]

Thank you. It's important to think about people that mean something to you. And I believe that people can feel you thinking about them in the, in the, like, I think that it's a real thing, like, you know, I think it's important that we think about people like that, man. He was a dude, was a boss.

[Jim Jeffries]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And you know what? I take some solace in that. He was doing the job that he always wanted to do since he was a little kid.

[Theo]

Yeah. He lived his dream.

[Jim Jeffries]

They reckon the last time they saw him, he put his machine gun over his shoulder, his automatic shoulder. He jumped in the helicopter and he gave a thumbs up and a smile.

[Theo]

Yeah.

[Jim Jeffries]

And he was over the moon because the other person dropped out and Max was first person with his hand up. And so, you know, wasn't a senseless death. It wasn't a, you know, like a car accident, which I'm not going. You know, people have tragedies all their life. At least there was, you know, it wasn't fentanyl.

[Theo]

Yeah.

[Jim Jeffries]

At least it was something, you know, off being a hero, bro.

[Theo]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, dude, it is cool.

[Jim Jeffries]

Yeah, yeah.

[Theo]

You know, that is exciting.

[Jim Jeffries]

Yeah, yeah.

[Theo]

Shout out Max. Dude, he's still out there in the air probably. And dude, well, look, that's another reason we shouldn't be tariff in these people. These guys are fricking putting their lives on the line. They've done that for America before.

[Jim Jeffries]

Yeah, we. Well, we always show up for the wars.

[Theo]

You pop by.

[Jim Jeffries]

Yeah, yeah. It's. You know what, you kind of need us, America. I know you're saying, oh, who cares? A country of 23 million and another country of 3.5 million in New Zealand. So let's, you know, 26, 27 million people, we're in a country of 330 million, right. What do you care about that? Well, strategically you kind of need us. We have nuclear submarines that, you know.

[Theo]

Really?

[Jim Jeffries]

Yeah. Involved with the Americans sitting up at the top of our country. Because if, if China goes, bro, you're.

[Theo]

Gonna have to be there first.

[Jim Jeffries]

You need us all. Yeah, you need.

[Theo]

Dude, that's gonna be crazy. I would watch that if I, if I Saw, if the Chinese got to fight Australia, I would tune in for that.

[Jim Jeffries]

Okay, so there we go. We. There we go.

[Theo]

Yeah, boy. Oh, there's the black one at the top.

[Jim Jeffries]

You can tell that under. Currently under construction. I don't know how to make it. I assume it's like Ikea or Lego or something like that. You'd be off to go. Hopefully it's not the same bloke who made the helmets, you know, but. But, but, yeah, we're good to go.

[Theo]

Oh, that's awesome. Yeah, we get. Yeah, I think it's. I don't know what they're doing. I don't know what some of the strategies are. And you start to realize that, man, like, probably throughout time, people have just been, like, so distant from the. The people who are running the show, you know, you all end up just being in the mud while they're the ones up there pouring the water into the dirt, you know?

[Jim Jeffries]

You know, we had our own Pearl harbor up in Darwin. They bombed it. The movie Australia. I know Gallipoli was when we went and fought the Turks. Okay, Turks. I shouldn't say the Turks. What am I.

[Theo]

It's fine. Yeah, I guess the Young Turks and.

[Jim Jeffries]

A Casperian, but we fought the Turkish. And you would have seen the Mel Gibson movie that was. But we had an invasion on Australian land in Darwin. They bombed it. Similar time to what happened with Pearl Harbor. They went after us as well.

[Theo]

The Jays. Yeah, Japanese.

[Jim Jeffries]

Yeah. And it. And it hasn't really. It's in the movie Australia with Hugh Jackman and Nicole Kidman. That's what it. What it's about. But I don't know if, you know, you've seen that film, but. But we had our own. We had our own thing going on as well. Yeah. More than 230 people were killed. Civilians, military people, with Hundreds more wounded. 68 air raids. Yeah. Pretty amazing.

[Theo]

And what happened after this, after the attack happened?

[Jim Jeffries]

Well, we just carried on with World War II, didn't we? Yes, we did. We beat the Germans, man. That's what happened. They had a few wins. We won the war, man. We won the war. It's funny. I'm looking at me special at the moment. I wanted to call my special Hitler. Right. I've got three Hitler jokes in it. That's the only reason I wanted to call Hitler. I'm not a fan of Hitler. I'm not pro Hitler. I've just got three. And I was thinking to myself, because everything's about algorithm. Yeah, right. How's the algorithm? Who. Who Gets searched more than Hitler.

[Theo]

Yeah.

[Jim Jeffries]

Who gets to. I type his name into Netflix all the time. If I'm bored and I want to watch a documentary, I'm. I'm not. I don't put like a heart emoji next to it. I just, you know, and I thought that could get a few clicks if I call the thing Hitler. Anyway, suffice to say, I had some pushback from Netflix. Netflix. Like, I go, it won't be an aggressive font. Yeah, it'll be.

[Theo]

It'll be a soft font, like Arial or something.

[Jim Jeffries]

Yeah. And I. So I. I wanted to go to Hitler. In the end, I landed on two limb policy, which I'm very happy with in the name, but. But I just got back all the rankings of, you know, where it is in the top 10. I don't know if it's because I do the Hitler jokes, but out of all of Europe. I'm about to tour Europe right now. About to a full year. And I sell really well in Germany, but for some reason, Germany and Austria haven't gotten in the top 10. I don't know if there's some shit everywhere around Poland, I'm crushing.

[Theo]

But Hitler's their guy.

[Jim Jeffries]

Yeah. Yeah. But they're not proud of it.

[Theo]

No, some of them are.

[Jim Jeffries]

They're not.

[Theo]

Tulin policy, right there.

[Jim Jeffries]

There we are. Tulim policy. Now the Tulim policy stands for after I did my sick.

[Theo]

I know you meet with the veterans after your show, right?

[Jim Jeffries]

I do. I meet with disabled people.

[Theo]

Disabled. You meet with disabled folks after your show?

[Jim Jeffries]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. So after my shows, I take photographs with disabled people. But people start. I did a sitcom many years ago that had disabled actors, and then I sort of became a thing. And I used to actually just sort of go get the security to go and sort of whisper to the wheelchair seats and go, here's a thing. Come back afterwards.

[Theo]

Come on around.

[Jim Jeffries]

Yeah, but people started finding out about that and people would write to me and go, hey, I'm coming to see you perform this week. And I'm bringing my uncle, he's disabled. Can we come backstage? And you can't write back how disabled. You know what I mean? And you can't ask for a photo. Yeah, you just gotta go. Because I kind of fucking dyslexics showing up. Right? There needs to be. There needs to be. So as I say in the special, I always handle the classics. Deaf, deaf, blind, wheelchair. If you. And also, you can't just be like, slightly deaf. Slight. You got to have a dog or a Cane, you got to be a beast if you're deaf. You got to have the voice. Right? There's no. There's no better way to say it.

[Theo]

Yeah, I don't like those pseudo blind people. Like, I'm. Like I'm colorblind or whatever. Like, I'm colorblind, but I still say the N word. I'm like, what are you doing? You gotta choose a path.

[Jim Jeffries]

So. So. So if you aren't one of the classics, I have a two limb policy. So you can't. You can't just be, like, a fat who lost your foot to diabetes. Yeah. You know what I mean? That doesn't get you backstage because you had too much candy.

[Theo]

But it's crazy that people are faking that kind of.

[Jim Jeffries]

No, no one's faking it. But I just decided what was my parameters?

[Theo]

Got it.

[Jim Jeffries]

No one was faking. I never had anyone coming back. I think I was letting the autistic back in the. Some of them were over autism.

[Theo]

Oh, yeah. Yeah.

[Jim Jeffries]

You know what I mean? And I was like, I. I thought. I thought. I don't think this is your real self. I think you're playing this up for the cameras a little bit. So. So. But I do count autism as one limb.

[Theo]

Oh.

[Jim Jeffries]

So if you have a flamidomide arm and autism. Right. Beautiful. You're in lazy eye or autism. Here we go.

[Theo]

What about missing an ear?

[Jim Jeffries]

Yeah. Oh, yeah. I'd go missing an ear all day.

[Theo]

Yeah.

[Jim Jeffries]

Like Mark Chopper Reed.

[Theo]

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[Jim Jeffries]

You ever seen the movie Chopper?

[Theo]

I haven't.

[Jim Jeffries]

This is my gift to you. Go see the movie. That's Eric Banner's first dramatic role. Right before that. Eric Banner, you know, the actor Eric Banner? Yeah, Eric Banner was a stand up comedian.

[Theo]

You'd seen him perform before?

[Jim Jeffries]

Yeah, yeah, he was famous in Australia. Yeah, he was. He was doing. He did characters. He used to do impersonations and all that type of stuff. He even had a show called the Eric Banner show where he played. Now that's the real Chopper Reed. Right? So the one up in the top corner there, the one next to him is the. Is the real guy. Now if you look at him, he doesn't have ears.

[Theo]

Oh, yeah, right. Kind of drawn on, Right.

[Jim Jeffries]

So what happened was he killed a whole lot of people. Then he went in prison. Then there was a mark on him where they were like 50, I'm saying an arbitrary number. $50,000 to kill Mark Reed.

[Theo]

Yeah.

[Jim Jeffries]

Right. And so he said, I need to be moved out of the cell block. I can't be in this cell block. Everyone's trying to kill me.

[Theo]

They're trying to kill me, they're killing me.

[Jim Jeffries]

And the governor's like, I can't help you, mate.

[Theo]

Yeah, man. Seats taken? Yeah. Oh, why'd he take his ears off? Sweet.

[Jim Jeffries]

Because he has to go into the hospital, in the infirmary or they'll move him or something like that. For his own safety. He got his ears cut off. He got another bloke to do it with a razor and peel it off. It's a banger of a movie. Now when you see the movie, right? So the movie is. Eric Banner is unbelievable. It's what made Eric Banner a star. He was just a stand up comic in Australia who'd been in a little movie called the Castle, which is a great comedy. That's another podcast. And then Eric Banner becomes Chopper and does this thing and he gains tons of weight, gets really fat for it and all that type of stuff. And then his next movie, I believe is the Hulk or Blackhawk Down. And then he's in fucking Troy with. You know what I mean? Like, it's kind of. Yeah. So Chopper, Black Hawk down, another Australian movie. Then he's the fucking Hulk. And then he's. Then he's with bloody Brad Pitt.

[Theo]

Good looking people. Yeah, but you with the good looking people, you're doing good.

[Jim Jeffries]

Yeah. Munich. That's, that's, that's Steven Spielberg. Munich. Like it went for. It went from 0 to 100 very quick.

[Theo]

Wow.

[Jim Jeffries]

You know, like. And he was, as I said, just a stand up comedian.

[Theo]

And he still lives in Australia.

[Jim Jeffries]

He still lives in Australia. Still lives in Australia. And I don't think he does stand up anymore. I've spoken to him online a couple of times as one Australian to another type of thing. I think he one time saw one of my specials and was like, like I enjoyed it. Yeah. That's the only chat that's so cool though. But this is a weird thing. There's like people you like. You get, you get to speak to Donald Trump and Bernie Sanders. You get to meet both sides of the whole world. Plus you get to interview whoever the. When you get to a certain level of fame, there's people you can just sort of reach out to and go, hey. And then just see if something comes back. Like. So at the moment I'm wearing my. My favorite entertainer in the world and I wore this T shirt it. Because you're the Only interview I've ever found of Chris Lilly.

[Theo]

Dude. Well, he. First of all. Yeah. I remember asking you last time that we talked if you had met him and you hadn't yet.

[Jim Jeffries]

No. Still haven't spoken to him online. I've never heard his voice. I, I, I've. He once came to one of my shows and he wrote, I was just at your show. Really funny, good stuff. Or whatever. But he didn't come backstage.

[Theo]

Oh, he's kind of quiet. He's kind of like a, He's a little bit of like a missing person kind of.

[Jim Jeffries]

He's a, he's an introvert, but he's a genius.

[Theo]

Oh, he's magical.

[Jim Jeffries]

He's a gene. His TV shows, it was like I wanted. I started showing his shows to my son when he was 11.

[Theo]

He's a magic baby.

[Jim Jeffries]

And then just to see what he, if, if he went, this is brilliant. I knew that my son actually knew.

[Theo]

Comedy and was going to be a good person.

[Jim Jeffries]

Knew what comedy was and then. Or if he went, oh, I don't really get it. This is boring, or whatever. What's a guy? Because it's one guy playing all the different.

[Theo]

Oh, yeah.

[Jim Jeffries]

And he got canceled for the wrong reasons.

[Theo]

Yeah. It was one of the best shows ever.

[Jim Jeffries]

First of all, Summer High Ties is unbelievable. Jamae Private School. Now he's got a podcast of Mr. G. Who's my favorite character.

[Theo]

Oh, yeah. But bad habit for drugs.

[Jim Jeffries]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. She's a naughty girl with a bad habit. Bad habit for drugs. Ecstasy. Ecstasy, yeah. He's the. He is. I'm gonna. For Australia, right?

[Theo]

Yeah.

[Jim Jeffries]

I'm gonna say he's the greatest Australian entertainer we've ever had. I'm including Hugh Jackman, Russell Crowe. I'm including fucking acdc, man. Right, right. And these are all those people I love.

[Theo]

Oh, yeah.

[Jim Jeffries]

I'm very proud to say from Australia, Volkanovsky. Also if she's Volkanovsky.

[Theo]

Alexander Volkanovski. Is he New Zealand? He's Australia. Australian.

[Jim Jeffries]

I haven't lived there for 20 years. Am I about to be in trouble?

[Theo]

He's a UFC guy.

[Jim Jeffries]

No. Oh, no. I don't follow the ufc.

[Theo]

Oh, you don't? That's good. But he's a class.

[Jim Jeffries]

I don't. No, no. Athletes. Athletes is a different thing. I'm talking about entertainers. We've had some great athletes, man. Do you know that the Ben Simmons.

[Theo]

Was kind of mid.

[Jim Jeffries]

Yeah, but three time All Star facts. Three time All Star.

[Theo]

Never mind. Sorry.

[Jim Jeffries]

All right. Luke Longley played in the Greatest team of all time was the first Australian in the NBA. When the Dream Team went to play fucking the rest of the world in Barcelona, there was only six players, international players that were in the NBA. Six. And now there was like 60 or 70 in this last night. The Australians actually had like a proper team. But Luke Longley was just a big tall cunt from fucking Fremantle. Perth, brother. Right? And then he's playing with Michael Jordan and he was the only cunt out there with an accent that wasn't American or Eastern European. Yeah, right. Like, that was pretty. Now you've got like Josh Giddy and you've got Andrew Bogart played before. You got Daniel Dyson just got the. The block record, the steel record. Yeah.

[Theo]

Zarvita Zobonus. They get her. What's that guy's name, that big guy? Bogan. Durgan Boganderovich. But I think he's saying Australians, Australia.

[Jim Jeffries]

All Australians. Our Olympic team is all NBA players.

[Theo]

Yeah. Class.

[Jim Jeffries]

I don't understand why Britain hasn't gotten into basketball.

[Theo]

Yeah.

[Jim Jeffries]

Okay. How do I say this? They got. They've got tall, they've got black people. They've got loads of them, right? They've got thing. It's a place that it rains every fucking day. Yeah, it rains every day. And you. And in a confined space and you haven't picked up basketball. That. They're just trying to be fucking difficult.

[Theo]

Yeah, that's what they're trying to be. They're too fucking. Like. We don't know. They don't want a bunch of black guys just hanging out in the park or something. I don't know what they're.

[Jim Jeffries]

We don't need the park. Indoor basketball courts. Just get it made. But with Travis Pizarro, the number one major league pick last year in the draft is from Hornsby. We born the same hospital as me bro. And this guy. This guy. Fucking. This is just a coincidence. Me and. Me and Chris Lilly, I think the same age, give or take a year. We're the same age. He went to the private school, I believe up the road for me. And I went to the public school up the road for me. But we grew up in the same bit of the northern suburbs of Sydney.

[Theo]

Would you remember seeing him as a kid?

[Jim Jeffries]

No, I never. I. I've never met him. But. But it's just there's every chance that me and him were at the same party or something like that. Every chance as kids that we're at the same party. But he. But I was. So it's. It's it's weird when you get that where you go, oh wow. He. He grew up near me.

[Theo]

Yeah.

[Jim Jeffries]

I, I can't, I can't champion Chris Lilly enough, man. Oh, dude.

[Theo]

I was saw him in, in Byron Bay, right?

[Jim Jeffries]

Yeah.

[Theo]

Right outside of Sydney.

[Jim Jeffries]

Oh, no, no, no, no.

[Theo]

I saw him in, up in Queensland in Bondi Beach.

[Jim Jeffries]

Bondi beach is, is in Sydney. But it's, it's the. Yes. The most famous beach in Australia. Yes.

[Theo]

Oh, beautiful over there. Even the men's is good looking.

[Jim Jeffries]

Were you doing the voice then? Was that.

[Theo]

I don't know what I was doing.

[Jim Jeffries]

I just didn't want men's is good looking even.

[Theo]

Yeah, it's all right. But I remember he came we. We met up for lunch and I had some other people that I was like other. Other comedians and stuff. And I was like, well, I, you know, he's kind of keeps himself so I don't know if I want to have a bunch of people here when he shows up. So you know, once you guys take. Take a walk or whatever. So I walked outside with them and then when I came back in, he was sitting just like facing the water, like out on this balcony. And then I just went and sat by him and we just sat and talked. He had on like this hat I'll include some photos from and stuff. But it was just awesome. Just like.

[Jim Jeffries]

Yeah.

[Theo]

It's almost like meeting with like a mythical creature kind of in a way. He's so special.

[Jim Jeffries]

Yeah. He's as gifted a human being that.

[Theo]

Has ever been to be able to do all that. The bravest part is just to be able to take on all those characters at once, I think. And then just put yourself out there that much. Because you're not saying that, hey, my character is gonna be good. You're gonna say. You're saying five of my characters are gonna be good.

[Jim Jeffries]

Brian leaves you and you believe that he's a 16 year old girl.

[Theo]

Yeah.

[Jim Jeffries]

Just after a little while you go, now it's one thing for him to be a gay high school drama teacher. Right. That's just a wig. He's still a guy. And like, but then when you watch jamae.

[Theo]

Yeah.

[Jim Jeffries]

And you're like. And then like. And also this whole thing that was like, oh, he did blackface or he did this, he did that. Right.

[Theo]

Look at him. And he look, he's like a walla.

[Jim Jeffries]

But. But then to do Jonah from Tonga and there's real genuine moments of heart. There's. There's times you can cry watching Jonah that you feel for him so much and that you understand why he's a little. It's not just a one dimensional. This kid's a shit stirring troublemaker. And I think that's what people last. They, oh, he's taking the piss out of Tongans. And it's like, yeah, I guess he is. But it's so much more than that.

[Theo]

Even Tongans fucking loved it. Real Tongans loved it. The only people that don't like it are people that don't own it, who want to write articles about it.

[Jim Jeffries]

My son went out for Halloween this year as Jonah from Tonga. Didn't do anything with his skin. Just. Just the way the shirt and the.

[Theo]

Tie, dude, I say go a nice polish. Don't do anything heavy, you know what I'm saying? Don't do anything super close to the equator. But I would go with like, you know, yeah, something a good bronzer, I think.

[Jim Jeffries]

Well, I don't think he was going to put that much effort in. I think. I think laziness stopped him from being canceled.

[Theo]

He's like, like, stop looking at my dick, Mom.

[Jim Jeffries]

Yeah, yeah. Oh, no. Oh, no, you don't do that. Yes. What you do that for?

[Theo]

Stop looking at my dick.

[Jim Jeffries]

Ms. Oh, miss, oh, miss.

[Theo]

Oh, the best. And then when they start break dancing and then that other kid comes in and he's a better break dancer.

[Jim Jeffries]

This is the. I would argue that Chris Lilly is a bit of better break dancer than Ray Gun, the Australian lady who entered the Olympics.

[Theo]

Yeah.

[Jim Jeffries]

And. And she put out a bet. Did you know about the bet she put out? She goes, oh, you think you're a better dancer than me? And she cracks her knuckles and goes, how about. I think it was like five grand or something. You can find the clip where Ray Gun puts it. There she is, old Ray Gun. She's dressed like she's from. From the local bolo, which is lawn bowls. And she just. Everyone else is wearing street crates. Then she does the kangaroo. But if you can find the, the clip of where she challenges people. Ray Gun challenges people. It's, it's.

[Theo]

And I wasn't there like alleged, like a big, like that's it there.

[Jim Jeffries]

That's it there. Ten thousand dollar price she put out. Ten thousand dollars prize. If you can dance better than Reagan, surely someone's. I can't dance better than Reagan.

[Theo]

Who won that shit?

[Jim Jeffries]

But she was a middle class woman from a middle class white woman who had studied hip hop at university and had a degree in it. And then like Australia was just like, oh, the girl's got a degree. It must be the one. You know, I don't think our Olympics panel. Right. Clock are savvy with the hip hop world.

[Theo]

Right.

[Jim Jeffries]

And the dancing. Right. It's not to say there aren't kids who are doing dancing in the street and stuff in Australia that can't do. We're very multicultural country. Country. Without a doubt. There are people who can fucking break dance in Australia. I've seen them do it. Class.

[Theo]

Yeah.

[Jim Jeffries]

But the, the, the, the, the people who actually decided when. There's a lovely young girl, Rachel Gunn, we're going to call her Ray Gunn. Bit of fun. And because I was in Bondi when the Olympics were on and my phone lit up, just lit up with all these people going, you gotta watch it. Are you watching the tv? And it was every American comic who knew me was just like trying to relate to you. No, no, they were trying to take the piss. Like your people are on the TV right now. Because that's the thing about, you know, being a white Australian. We're not, not inherently cool. You know what I mean? And so then when Ray Gun comes, that doesn't help our cause.

[Theo]

That was bad.

[Jim Jeffries]

It's like watching 9 11. It was.

[Theo]

Yeah, yeah.

[Jim Jeffries]

For a, for a Muslim. You know when A Muslim watches 911 and they think, oh, this will make my life harder. Yes, that's what that was.

[Theo]

Ray Gun was the Australian 911. Oh Christ. God.

[Jim Jeffries]

But the balls on her. Just to walk out the Olympics and have a go. It was, it was the only athlete that Snoop Dogg, who, you remember, Snoop Dogg was just at the Olympics just like, like, like wearing the equestrian outfit.

[Theo]

Well, so was Leslie Jones. Didn't they just have her like they, sometimes they just, they started hiring more celebrities to just be there.

[Jim Jeffries]

Yeah. Just to be there and just show up at events.

[Theo]

Yeah.

[Jim Jeffries]

I, I pitched a show to Australian TV that said because the Olympics are coming out and I, I don't know if this show will ever go ahead, but I've pitched it to Australian telly. I said, how about you get me interviewing people, the athletes, the Australian athletes. I'm already here.

[Theo]

Yeah.

[Jim Jeffries]

You don't have to bring anyone out. I'll do like a little comedy show that's like after the proper show, after you watch all the highlights, we can do like a little comedy tonight show where we just do the Olympics and make it a two run thing. So make it 10 episodes out the door. Done. Hopefully I can do it. But I reckon that would be a bit of fun.

[Theo]

That'd be sick dude, the Olympics are gonna be in Australia.

[Jim Jeffries]

No, here.

[Theo]

Oh, in the us, Louisiana.

[Jim Jeffries]

Oh, here, here, here. You don't know that the next Olympics are here.

[Theo]

Nuh.

[Jim Jeffries]

Oh, the traffic's gonna get worse.

[Theo]

Oh, it's gonna be bad. Oh, it's gonna be bad. You'll probably. I wonder if they'll have one of those. I mean.

[Jim Jeffries]

And you've got the World Cup.

[Theo]

Oh, yeah.

[Jim Jeffries]

Everything. Everything's going on. Do you know the Olympics are the reason you have palm trees? I used to do a podcast called I Don't Know about that. Right. Where I used to learn about a new thing. And one of the things was the Olympics, and I was learning. I do a podcast at this moment with Amos Gill. You're friends with Amos. You know, he's Australian comic. Very, very good comic. Me and him do a podcast at this moment. So follow my podcast. But palm trees. There was no palm trees in la. They're not indigenous to la. And then when you had your first Olympics, and I don't know what year, they planted all those ones along Beverly Hills just to spruce the place up a bit because visitors were coming. How about we plant some palm trees? They grow by themselves, they take very little work. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Right. Yeah. See, I'm not lying. The Internet's. The Internet's back. I like how you've got a guy who's always checking if I'm full of shit every time he's. Oh, no, no, he said it. Right. And so. So they planted 25,000 to 40,000. And at each. And that was 1932. Right. And at each game since then, when you've had the Olympics, since then, you've planted more palm trees. So the reason that LA looks like la, like what it's synonymous with. If you were to do a silhouette of LA palms right there, palm trees.

[Theo]

It's kind of the only thing in the silhouette, really.

[Jim Jeffries]

Yeah. A couple of buildings that you. Undescriptive buildings. Yeah, Palm trees. Dodger Stadium.

[Theo]

Yeah.

[Jim Jeffries]

Out the door.

[Theo]

Beverly Hilton.

[Jim Jeffries]

Yeah.

[Theo]

The Beverly Hills Hotel. I think there's palm trees in their emblem, probably.

[Jim Jeffries]

There's palm trees everywhere. That one. They're the wallpapers or palm trees.

[Theo]

But yeah, even if you're like. You see people's videos or movies, every time you see that, the palm trees, you see it might be Beverly.

[Jim Jeffries]

That's a lovely hotel.

[Theo]

That is a nice place, man. Man, it is nice over there. Yeah. I. I didn't know that at all. Man. I love the fact that. That Australia has so many amazing People, though, man, that's just one thing that I loved about it.

[Jim Jeffries]

Just. Well.

[Theo]

And it's peaceful, man. It's safe. Dude, that was one thing I realized. You're in Australia.

[Jim Jeffries]

It is safe.

[Theo]

It's safe.

[Jim Jeffries]

It is safe.

[Theo]

You're like, oh, this is nice.

[Jim Jeffries]

But, you know, look, I don't want your audience turning on me. I'm the gun control guy, you know what I mean? And I understand. I lived in America long enough. Enough. It's. Yeah, Australia is a very safe place, but not without, you know what they're having at the moment? They're having a. You know how like the turning your guns. They're having machete bins in Australia. Machete bins. This is a brand new thing that.

[Theo]

Like people having issues with the shetties.

[Jim Jeffries]

Disposable bins. Right.

[Theo]

Let me see it right here. An Australian state has asked citizens to surrender machetes at disposal bins ahead of a statewide ban on the weapons aimed at combating night knife crime.

[Jim Jeffries]

Yeah.

[Theo]

Australia's state of Victoria on Thursday announced that more than 40 machete disposal bins will be available at police stations across the state to allow citizens to safely get rid of the weapons without a penalty before September 1st ban.

[Jim Jeffries]

Wow. They reckon people are just throwing food and stuff in there, though.

[Theo]

Just recyclables.

[Jim Jeffries]

I just. Yeah, just throw in an arm just from your last murder and you go, I just. I'll throw the machete in as well.

[Theo]

Look at this fine right here. Those who did not surrender their Mercedes during the amnesty period may face imprisonment of up to two years or a fine of more than 47,000 Australian. Wow.

[Jim Jeffries]

37American. Yeah, look, I. Look, there is a little bit more nanny state in Australia. We do have. There's more speed cameras. You notice it when you go back. Yeah, it's a little strict. They do a thing in Australia that I find with around long weekends. So Easter, for example. Yeah. Long weekend. They will have the death toll on the tv.

[Theo]

Oh, really?

[Jim Jeffries]

Yeah. Where they talk about how many car accidents and how many people have died during this long weekend from drink driving or from speeding or whatever. And they'll go by all the states, right? Five states.

[Theo]

Who has the most?

[Jim Jeffries]

Five. Yeah. See who's bloody Western Australia is doing terrible this year with. With five deaths on the death toll. We also. Four deaths in Queensland. They're not doing well. Oh, Victoria. One death. Well done.

[Theo]

Somebody else boo from behind a camera.

[Jim Jeffries]

But I imagine doing that in America. Imagine like a Labor Day weekend. We're going to count up all the deaths that are happening on the highways and then we're going to report it and we're going to shame everyone. Also, long weekend, they do double demerits.

[Theo]

Oh, no. For what? If you get in trouble.

[Jim Jeffries]

Yeah. So let's say you get. You start with 12 points, you lose 1 point for a seat belt, 3 points for speeding. You know, things like that, really? Speeding, you lose six points. I think America goes the other way upwards or whatever. Right. You gain points on long weekends, holiday weekends, it's double. Oh, so seat belt two, speeding six, man.

[Theo]

And if you get 12, what's out? You're out.

[Jim Jeffries]

You're out. Oh, Australia has a bit of a double or nothing policy, which is like a thing we do because people go, oh, but I need me car for work. Yeah. What if I can't do it for work? The Australian government goes like this. We'll give you one point, right? And you have to have that point for a year. And so, yeah, so you can either lose your license for three months or you can have one point for a year. And if you lose it, then you lose your license for a year. Yeah. So you can't roll through a stop sign. You know what I mean?

[Theo]

I like that. But it's it. But you put things on the Australian citizen. I think they take things seriously. A lot of Americans. There's a lot of Americans that take things seriously, but there's a lot of other just hards who don't give a, you know.

[Jim Jeffries]

Oh, we have. Who don't give a. We're not short on them.

[Theo]

Yeah.

[Jim Jeffries]

You know, the world's got them.

[Theo]

Oh, yeah, yeah. Maybe you're right. Maybe I'm being a little bit hard on Americans today.

[Jim Jeffries]

No, America, man. I always have to stipulate this, man. What a wonderful place, man.

[Theo]

Yeah.

[Jim Jeffries]

What a. What opportunities and what things you can do. Just, just the basic fact that you have 330 million in such a small place. Right. You know, when you're flying around doing gigs in Australia, you didn't get any connecting flights, did you? You just went to those cities. Yeah, they all went through each other because we've got five major cities. Yeah, right. And then you drove out to the more rural places or whatever. But like in America, okay, I gotta stop in Charlotte because it's a hub and I always complaining about it, but I then I think to myself how wonderful that we can. I've been here for 15 or 16 years and there's still towns I haven't played, there's still cities I still have to go to. I've been to most of them over and over again. Yeah, but there's so much space. And there's also, you can be a popular comedian in the Midwest and that can be your territory where, you know, you have your fan base and you don't have to travel too far. Or you can be someone who's just really popular in San Francisco or what, you know what I mean? Like, like it's that diverse and, and people on America a lot because of your low rate of people who have passports. Right. And that's the stat they always say in Australia and Britain is like, you know, like, like 40% of Americans don't even have a passport. Right. And I used to think, oh, that is a, I don't know the exact state stat.

[Theo]

Take a look at it right here. As of late 2024, approximately 51% of Americans have a valid passport. This reflects an increase from 46 in 2023 and 30 in 2008.

[Jim Jeffries]

Right.

[Theo]

Compare that to other states.

[Jim Jeffries]

Compare that to Australia or England. So, so we're saying 49 of you don't have passports. Right? Right. That is high.

[Theo]

That's a lot.

[Jim Jeffries]

That is high. Like you're an international traveler. You think, you think nothing of having a passport. Of course you should have a passport. Right.

[Theo]

Oh, you guys is 50, 55.

[Jim Jeffries]

55. 77. 70 of UK because you're going to holiday in France. It' two hour train ride. Of course you're going to do that. You need to have that go for lunch. That surprises me. Australia is only at 55 or only a little bit higher.

[Theo]

Well, we've been catching up for some reason. I mean, we're 30 in 2008. I wonder what's caused.

[Jim Jeffries]

Right, so 30 is bad. Yeah, 30. But I, I never understood it until I moved to America and I'm like, well, you can do everything here. You literally have every weather condition that you want to enjoy. You want to go whitewater rafting, you want to go to a winter wonderland and fucking go into a resort up there. You want to go tropical? I can take you down here.

[Theo]

Yeah. You want a volcano?

[Jim Jeffries]

You want to see big? You want to see big city thing? You want to see, go to Hawaii. You want to see. Yeah, yeah. You've got. Every environment on earth is in the ecosystem of America.

[Theo]

Yeah.

[Jim Jeffries]

Plus you got Disneyland. Right.

[Theo]

So you got Epcot center that has fake environment.

[Jim Jeffries]

Exactly. You can see the whole world there. You don't have to go anywhere. Just wander around there. Watch. It's a small world after all that's. That's how you can tell what all the different children look like.

[Theo]

Yeah, yeah.

[Jim Jeffries]

You know, so, so, so I get it because you don't really have to go anywhere.

[Theo]

You kind of have everything that you need. But there is something beautiful about going. One thing that I remember when I first started traveling was. Was the first people you see everywhere, and this is one thing I always admired are Australians. Dude falls to the wall, they wake up, they go. They don't sleep. They're nocturnal. They're day turnal, they're lunch turtle.

[Jim Jeffries]

And it's even weird. You find us in places like Whistler, right? You'd be up and Whistler and g', day, mate. I'm your ski instructor for the day. Like, can't we get a Canadian on this? You've brought me a bloke from the desert. You know what I mean?

[Theo]

Even black Australians, you hear him, you know, like, good day, mate. And it's like a black guy. Like, wow, that's crazy.

[Jim Jeffries]

When I was young, you didn't. Okay. So when I was young, I grew up in a school that had a lot of, like Asian kids in it. I think it was 50, 60, Asian and stuff like that. And there wasn't many black people in Australia then. We had the white Australia policy. And I. I'm gonna. Right up until. I want to say the 1950s, it might have been later, Right.

[Theo]

Where there was whites only in Australia.

[Jim Jeffries]

It was. We were. You. You can immigrate to Australia, but it was for white people. And so the most dark as you got were Italians and Greeks. And they. The derogatory term for them was wog. And that was the. That was the most foreign people. But that's what shows how bigotry can go out the window. Because now they're the most assimilated people in Australia. And Italians and Greeks. Melbourne has the second highest Greek population of any city in the world, next to Athens. Wow. And that's including other Greek cities. Wow. Right. And so that was awesome. 1958. There you go. So they abolished the. Yeah, the non white immigrants. It was called the white Australia policy. Right. It wasn't. I'm not just making it like they.

[Theo]

Didn'T beat around the bush.

[Jim Jeffries]

They didn't have it. Yeah. So in 1958, they. They got rid of that. And now we have. Obviously we have a lot of black people and stuff like that, but when I left Australia, and I left Australia in 2001, and then when I came back, just to, you know, by about 2010, just, you know, on a holiday or seeing the family or whatever, to see all. So the Italians and Greeks were all westernized Australian by then with the accent. Then the Asians came in and then they. Oh, yeah, now you see Asian Australian cricket players, and they've all got the fucking voice, you know? You ever seen, like, a Chinese fellow who fucking talks like this, right? And it's like. It just. It just takes time. So. So they were the problem. And then now. Now they're like. And these fucking blokes coming then and then. So. So it just takes time and an accent to assimilate.

[Theo]

That's what you need. Even now, you see, like, a lot of. Like, there's a lot more black country music fans, and you see, like, a lot more like, black kind of redneck or, like, hunting type of guys. You're like, oh, it just takes some time.

[Jim Jeffries]

Exactly. It took.

[Theo]

It's kind of good because they can't use those things to separate people anymore anyway.

[Jim Jeffries]

It's Hooty to make the first push, right? Hootie. I don't know who. What hoodie's real name is, but. Hootie.

[Theo]

Darius.

[Jim Jeffries]

Darius, that's right.

[Theo]

But his last name was Rucker, which kind of has, like, kind of a country tone to it, so. So, yeah, dude, shout out Darius Rucker. He does not get enough credit.

[Jim Jeffries]

Rosa Parks, a country music man. Oh, like, like, like, you think about, like. And he left a popular band to go, I want to do country music in Nashville, right? Because he could still be touring right now with the Blowfish going, I only want to be with you. Yeah, right. And still be one of the. Doing just fine.

[Theo]

God, man, he's. Yeah, that guy's done a great job.

[Jim Jeffries]

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[Jim Jeffries]

Think that, like when you say black Australians and stuff like that. So the sports that we're into, Australian Rules Football.

[Theo]

Oh, yeah. Afl, man. Brisbane Lions.

[Jim Jeffries]

Afl, yeah.

[Theo]

Fremantle, bro.

[Jim Jeffries]

When black people start playing that sport, it's a rap, it's a wrap.

[Theo]

And they're hiding it from them.

[Jim Jeffries]

Right now, it's a wrap because we've got like some Sudanese refugees that have started playing who are excelling really, it's a game about jumping. Really fucking like jumping, running. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's. And it's a wrap, right? But I believe all sports eventually a rap, I think now, so. When I was growing up in Australia, I wore a Michael Jordan jersey like every other boy in the 90s, right? Because the best. The best. I never got to see him play one live game. There would be. Wide World of Sports would show little clips of what happened in American sports. We would get the super bowl, would be shown on our tv. No baseball. No, no basketball.

[Theo]

Like a Stingray kills a boy or something as well. Would be like one of the highlights.

[Jim Jeffries]

For you guys on Sports Center. But we had our rugby and we had our cricket and we had our AFL and all the, you know, great sports. But now they've got an app called Ko where you can watch all the NBA, all the baseball, all the Premier League for fucking 10 bucks or 15 bucks, you know what I mean? And it's like, it's cheaper to watch those sports in Australia now than it now. I believe that, as I said, you had one NBA player back in the day, Luke Longley. Now we've got like maybe 15 Australian NBA players. We got. We got. We now. We got. It was the guy in the Super Bowl, I think about four or five punters in the NFL.

[Theo]

Oh, yeah, that's right.

[Jim Jeffries]

Because. Because they learned from AFL to kick so long, and now they've just got. At Australian universities, we're just training punters. We're just like, all right, this is our thing.

[Theo]

Look at this.

[Jim Jeffries]

Here we go.

[Theo]

Let's get a gandal at him. There's Michael Dixon right there for the Seahawks. Current Australian punters, Lou Headley down there in New Orleans, Mitch Wish. Now ski shout out. Mitch Wish.

[Jim Jeffries]

So we got six current, six current. And I believe there's a bloke who actually played.

[Theo]

He looks awesome.

[Jim Jeffries]

Yeah. Yeah. And the thing is, because punters never have to learn to tackle.

[Theo]

So look at this lad right there.

[Jim Jeffries]

Every now and again, Headley, dude, order.

[Theo]

Me a Lou Headley jersey. That's him.

[Jim Jeffries]

Every now and again, there'll be balls off you, there'll be a punt and there'll be someone return. Get past all the defense, you know, they do that full run back, the whole thing.

[Theo]

Oh, yeah.

[Jim Jeffries]

And the Australian blokes always tackle them because they grow up playing rugby, you know that. Yeah. And so every time they're just like, oh, all there is left is the punter. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Have you seen that? Right, like that it's always some Australian bloke going, yeah, I can tackle. This is what we do do.

[Theo]

Yeah. I'm an adult male.

[Jim Jeffries]

I do this without a helmet, mate.

[Theo]

Yeah. Lou Edley, dude, he'll kick your freaking arms off your body, that guy. Wow. Dude, that's class, bro. That's such a great call. It's like, everybody should have that. Australian punter, I think I love having more. I want more Mexican guys in the NBA, dude. And I mean real Mexican guys.

[Jim Jeffries]

Well, like, five, four.

[Theo]

One guy.

[Jim Jeffries]

What's his name? For the heat, is the only one that I can.

[Theo]

Yeah.

[Jim Jeffries]

I forgot his bloody name. They're not renowned for being tall, the Mexicans.

[Theo]

No. That's why they got the one at ucla. Jaime.

[Jim Jeffries]

Yeah. Hackers. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Pays for the heat.

[Theo]

Yeah, it pays for heat now.

[Jim Jeffries]

And he's. He's class, but he's not. He's not a all star. Yeah, I mean, I. I always think with, like, it also with sports, it just takes one person to open the door up for other kids to go, oh, yeah, maybe. Okay. You know, we have Australians in the Premier League and stuff like that. You know, for a very small country. I'll tell you what country kicks fucking ass for its size. Iceland.

[Theo]

Really?

[Jim Jeffries]

Iceland's got 270,000 people. I might be out by 10,000 or something. And they made it to the soccer World Cup.

[Theo]

Oh, my God. I did not realize that statistically they.

[Jim Jeffries]

Would only have maybe 20,000 eligible men of age. The right age, the right whatever. And they made it the World cup. And they fucking got through the first round. Round class. They got. They got to the round of 16.

[Theo]

Unbelievable. Let's bring up that Iceland team. I want to get a gander. I feel like. It's like. I think Christian McCaffrey's from Iceland. Dude, I just went to Qatar not long ago. I know you're going to the Middle East. Coming up. I went to Qatar, and this is it. One thing was interesting. There was. The soccer stadiums from when they held the World cup are all still there. Because they didn't. They don't really have that much regular. No use of them. So you have these huge stadiums sitting everywhere there. Let's get a look at that team. That's amazing, brother.

[Jim Jeffries]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. All this bloke, like, they. They don't even have a McDonald's in Iceland.

[Theo]

Oh, well, that's probably why they're all in doing good. Everybody is just.

[Jim Jeffries]

All their arteries aren't clogged up.

[Theo]

Is that Jason Ellis on the bottom right?

[Jim Jeffries]

There.

[Theo]

Let me get a gang with that pick there.

[Jim Jeffries]

Oh, these lads are.

[Theo]

Dude, look how Icelandish that dude is. The third dude. That freaking ice Indian.

[Jim Jeffries]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah, the ice Indian.

[Theo]

That guy's ready, brother. Wow. I bet it would be cool to be Icelandic.

[Jim Jeffries]

Have you been there?

[Theo]

No, I almost went to Reykjavik, but it was. They had a. It was gay pride weekend. We were going to go and I.

[Jim Jeffries]

Was like, there's nothing retrovic Rekrovic, is it?

[Theo]

Yeah, I just didn't want to be at there when it was just everything was very kind of overly gay.

[Jim Jeffries]

I was there when there was no gay. There was no. There was no moon. There was no. There was no darkness. Oh, it was sunny 24 hours a day.

[Theo]

Is it fun?

[Jim Jeffries]

They're spanning the. Out of me. They only get that for three months and the rest of it was not. But you're worried about the gainers. You're worried about.

[Theo]

I just didn't want it to be ever, you know, at the hotel, every moment it's. Oh, it's so much gayness. And I guess it's probably what gay people think of, like.

[Jim Jeffries]

Yeah, they have to walk into our hotels. I can't be going here with all the heterose.

[Theo]

Oh, I bet they feel that way. Like they don't want to go to Sturgis. Probably some of them, you know.

[Jim Jeffries]

Yeah, I think that's. That's all I parade it. It was just a few. Look. And also. Okay, so, you know, like in Iceland.

[Theo]

I just didn't want guys like, I'm at breakfast and some guys keep trying to buy me like. Like those. What are those? Eggs with a little ham on it. And it's.

[Jim Jeffries]

It's a. You're talking about.

[Theo]

No.

[Jim Jeffries]

Yeah, the eggs are at the base and then there's like a ham. There's like a. It's like a thing. You didn't want one of them bought for you.

[Theo]

Yeah. Just didn't want somebody sending over a cock, you know.

[Jim Jeffries]

Well, you know. Okay. So.

[Theo]

Not that they would. But as someone dressed nicely, if you.

[Jim Jeffries]

Are to be gay, I reckon Iceland's the place to do it. Cause, you know, they have an app on the phone. So the population's so small that they have to have an app on the phone. So if you meet a girl in a bar, you both put your names in the app or your license into the app or whatever, and it'll tell you how closely related you are. Because everyone's fucking related anything. Right.

[Theo]

Then we got to get over there, dude.

[Jim Jeffries]

So so, so you go over there.

[Theo]

We have a shot.

[Jim Jeffries]

So like third cousins? All right, I guess. Second cousin, no good warning. First cousin, how good are you at keeping a secret?

[Theo]

Yeah, right. 40, 70.

[Jim Jeffries]

But. But that's for the heterose. If you're gay. Who gives a. If you. You cousin. It's not gonna. A baby's not gonna be made is what I'm saying. Is what I'm saying.

[Theo]

But you would still. It would make. I mean.

[Jim Jeffries]

Oh no, you'd prefer not. Yeah, I know. Don't. I don't want the gay people kicking off on me. Like I'm saying, they're all fucking their siblings. If you can avoid it. If you can avoid it, I say do. Yeah, dude, but if it's unavoidable and it's cold and the sun hasn't been out for six fucking months, who am I to judge?

[Theo]

And if you write not my cousin on the guy's back or whatever.

[Jim Jeffries]

Yes, exactly, exactly. You can, you can. Like, like there would be nothing worse than ejaculating and rolling over going, so how's your mum? She. She still all right?

[Theo]

Yeah. How's Aunt Nan?

[Jim Jeffries]

Yeah, how's Aunt Bjork?

[Theo]

Dude, I gotta go over there. You win.

[Jim Jeffries]

I went and I'm going to Saudi Arabia coming up and I find. Let's talk about that because you just talked about guitar. I'm going to sing. I've been given a little bit of grief online. Nothing too much about going to Saudi Arabia. Yeah. A few people have gotten into the comics who are going and the list is big, big. It's. It's Louis ck, Me, Bill Bird, Fluffy's going, Whitney Cummings.

[Theo]

There's a big festival going out.

[Jim Jeffries]

It's called the Riyadh Comedy Festival. And here, here we go. Anderson to Andrew Schultz says he's in. Sorry, Bill, but Jim Jeffries, Jimmy Carr, Joe Coy, Kevin Hart, you know, Sam, we got, we got people.

[Theo]

Great lineup. To Jessica Carson, Nimish Patel. Wow.

[Jim Jeffries]

It's as good a line up I've seen in any comedy festival.

[Theo]

Unbelievable.

[Jim Jeffries]

Never. Now people have been going, oh, how dare you go over there after they killed a reporter. That was the big one. There's been a reporter who they killed. You don't think our governments fucking bump people. I think Jeffrey Epstein was fucking bumped off, you know.

[Theo]

Oh, I'm sure that.

[Jim Jeffries]

Right.

[Theo]

Every place. We've damaged a lot of places.

[Jim Jeffries]

Yeah, yeah. We've. One reporter was killed by the government. Unfortunate, but not a fucking hill that I'm gonna die on. It's not my, you know, and I don't know the ins and outs of their government. So then they get into the live golf, right? All the golfers go off to Saudi Arabia for, you know, a king's ransom amount of money. And everyone's like, how dare they? After how they treat their people and all this type of stuff. And the people like, all right, then you've got Cristiano Ronaldo goes over and plays there is being paid in. He gets an extra hundred, 200 grand every time he kicks a goal. As a bonus, 50 grand for an assist.

[Theo]

He has like an SPF fee, I heard, even just putting it on before the game. They pay him extra to do that.

[Jim Jeffries]

So crazy. So he's living there. He's engaged to his missus, but they've never gotten married. Right. He's the first person in Saudi Arabia who's allowed to live with a woman who he's not married to. They've made. They've gone an exception. They've gone, all right, all right. For Ronaldo, okay? He can do this, right?

[Theo]

So strong rules over there.

[Jim Jeffries]

So you can be angry at how they treat their people, how they treat the reporter. You can be angry at the golfers. You can be angry at things. You can. But what better than basically, we are freedom of speech machines being sent over there. What better? They haven't asked. They have not at one stage asked to see our material. They haven't asked. And I've been asked in some countries in Asia, I've been asked for transcripts of what I'm gonna say.

[Theo]

Oh, yeah, right.

[Jim Jeffries]

They haven't asked what we're going to do. And let's be fair, they have picked some fucking edgy ass comedians.

[Theo]

Some seriously edgy wins.

[Jim Jeffries]

Yeah, yeah.

[Theo]

They've some of the greats.

[Jim Jeffries]

They've picked some edgy commands.

[Theo]

So very smart, too.

[Jim Jeffries]

If you don't agree there, Schultz, if you don't agree with how they run their place, isn't this a step in the right direction?

[Theo]

100 bringing free speech over.

[Jim Jeffries]

Yeah, yeah. Isn't this a sign that they're trying to do something different with themselves?

[Theo]

Yeah.

[Jim Jeffries]

Like this would have been. The highest ranks of government would have gone, all right, we're bringing out 30 comedians who, who are allowed to say whatever the fuck they want. Who's up for this? This is a. This is a positive thing.

[Theo]

I agree. Well, here's the, here's the thing that I don't understand too. It's like to be we. To live in a country where we're Fortunate enough to have the freedom of speech. Right.

[Jim Jeffries]

Yeah.

[Theo]

And to say things we want.

[Jim Jeffries]

Yeah.

[Theo]

And then to judge other places. Like, I get judging them, but their rules are their. That's what makes their culture right. And it's like, yes, we may not agree with some of them, and some of them we may deem as wrong. Wrong. And some of them may be morally wrong or religiously wrong, but for that country, that's what's going on right now. Some of them I get, it's like, you know, that's wrong, that's up. But some things, sometimes you're just attacking kind of the culture of a place. Right. So I, So it's like, and, and.

[Jim Jeffries]

And us isolating them teaches us nothing. And teaches them nothing.

[Theo]

Yeah. It also makes us look like this loud. Know it all all the time. That's the thing. I don't like, like, you know, go live there for a few years, see how it is, you know, I mean, of course.

[Jim Jeffries]

Well, I'm not gonna live there.

[Theo]

Yeah.

[Jim Jeffries]

I don't want to put that out there. I'm happy here.

[Theo]

Jim Jeffries is coming over. He's gonna be staying.

[Jim Jeffries]

Yeah, I did, I didn't cyber up for that reason.

[Theo]

Dude, I will say this, man. When I was in Qatar, they had, everything was organized. There's nothing out of place. It's almost like there's, it's like there's a ton of respect everywhere. Like, I mean, that's just what you see in public, right? Like, I mean, things are clean. Like, you wouldn't like.

[Jim Jeffries]

People say the World cup was wonderful. I was, I was anti, I was there because I've seen, I saw the World cup in Germany in 2006, and I saw the Women's World cup in Australia when that happened. I saw the, the Matildas, the Australian women's team play. And, and I thought, why, you know, why should we go to this little country that doesn't really have a soccer history or whatever like that? But everyone reckons the fucking, the crowds were super chill. They reckon it was piss easy to get beer. They actually had beer taps out the front of the stadium where you, you. Nuh, yeah. Because they didn't want their people actually touching it and blah, blah, blah, blah. And so, so look at, look at him there. Look at the mullet. I thought you were. Just had a dirty headdress on you. You know what I mean? I, I, I thought that one bloke on the left hasn't washed his, washed his cloth there.

[Theo]

That's what they called a thobe over there. They treated us so great. I mean obviously we were there to like do a show and stuff, but. But it was just great to get to see the culture and be a part of the culture. Culture. A ton of like respect. I. And you know, they don't, like a lot of them don't drink or they don't do it. Like it's not as public here. There's not pubs and bars and I didn't notice anyway where people are just drunk, you know, it's like, I don't know, it's. It's definitely different. I thought it was really unique, you know, I thought it was unique.

[Jim Jeffries]

I was talking, talking to my friend the other day about this. Okay, so I. You've gigged in the uk?

[Theo]

Yep.

[Jim Jeffries]

Right. How good is a publisher pub? Good in the uk? Good. It's good. It's like a living room.

[Theo]

Even in Ireland.

[Jim Jeffries]

Yeah, yeah, Ireland, even better.

[Theo]

Is that part of the uk?

[Jim Jeffries]

Yeah, well, it's not. No. Northern Ireland is part of the uk. Ireland is. The Republic of Ireland is its own place. But. But they have reciprocal passports. You can live in either country. So you know, it's that part of the world. Right. And the pub is just so good. And I feel like America is missing that. Sometimes they try to recreate an English publisher, but I feel like what they're missing is you've got two levels of bar in America. You've got fancy ass fucking bar. Like really like everything's shiny and clean, lines and unique and that glass back with all the bottles and all that type of stuff. Almost a nightclub chic.

[Theo]

Yeah.

[Jim Jeffries]

And you have the dive bar that is on bar rescue where there seems to be fucking gaffer tape holding everything together and it just sort of smells. And the carpet sticky.

[Theo]

Yeah. Some woman's living in the ice machine.

[Jim Jeffries]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And you're like, you're like, like, you're like, can I have a Bloody Mary? And they're like, yeah. And then they read a book or.

[Theo]

Then they just punch a woman and they just bring her over, like, here she is. That was kind of a dumb joke. My brain's tired today. Thank you for laughing.

[Jim Jeffries]

Bit of fun, brother. Bit of fun. Anyway, so. So I think America's missing that middle bar, which is nice and everything's clean, but I can still walk in in a T shirt and not feel like I'm, you know, and I don't have to line up and I don't have to know a guy and it's just they need to have more Homely bars.

[Theo]

But yeah, we're missing that neighborhood bar that's more popular in every place. Like one thing in the uk they have all those like the White Star. They are the. What are the. What's that bar they have all in almost every town there. I think it's called the Red. No, White lion maybe.

[Jim Jeffries]

Which town is this?

[Theo]

The White Star Tavern is an award winning pub, restaurant, hotel in Southampton.

[Jim Jeffries]

Southampton.

[Theo]

No, it's. This place is everywhere.

[Jim Jeffries]

They have chain ones but you don't even know that they're a chain in Britain.

[Theo]

No, they don't look chain. The chain at all. And they're just kind of like in every town they have them like on high.

[Jim Jeffries]

There's a chain called Weather Spoons which, which is a company that owns a ton of bars across Britain. There we go. J.D. weatherspoons.

[Theo]

One of the most well known examples. J.D. weathers is simply Spoons, they call it.

[Jim Jeffries]

Well, I've performed in the corner of a few spoons in me day.

[Theo]

Have you?

[Jim Jeffries]

Oh yeah, man. Yeah, man.

[Theo]

Dude. I performed in this one place in South Dakota. They had a parrot in the bar. It was like part of a thing. Right. And every now. And sometimes it could say some words and sometimes it would repeat a bit of you. A punchline or something.

[Jim Jeffries]

Oh, it actually like.

[Theo]

Yeah, you know, I'll BLEEP that out. Yeah, but it's a bit of fun. Yeah, we'll leave it in.

[Jim Jeffries]

Yeah, it's your podcast, man. I didn't say it. You said it. If I'm in trouble for sitting next to you saying it, then the world's gone too far, I think.

[Theo]

Yeah. And that's gay.

[Jim Jeffries]

That's. That's like sort of my new special, man. I want to talk about it just quickly, just.

[Theo]

Yeah, I want to talk about the tulum policy, man. And I'm glad that you had to set that in stone, but because it's just amazing the levels people will go around, you know, to try and cheat the system.

[Jim Jeffries]

Well, I do a meet and greet. It's. They normally just join the meet and greet.

[Theo]

You do it for free. I know too. Which I think is pretty amazing.

[Jim Jeffries]

Well, okay, so for the disabled people, it's for free. I do, I do a meet. I do a meet and greet with a ticket with the people in the front row.

[Theo]

Oh, that's fair.

[Jim Jeffries]

You know, but like 50 people.

[Theo]

Yeah.

[Jim Jeffries]

And then the disabled people are included in that. And the disabled people, God bless them, they always wait till the end of the great. I'm like, you come first. Don't worry about it. Don't. I know you're seated the whole time. And the rest of them are saying. But I always get off stage. I used to used to drink before and say. And the first thing I do is pop an edible because it helps me sleep. And it's also my way of chilling out. I don't go out to bars. I don't do anything. I'm not bloody. You know, I'm happily married, man. I'm not out chasing tail. I'm just fucking. I just chilling to my. And then I do the meet and greet, and then I talk to everyone a few minutes as I meet him and chat to them about whatever. They want to chat to me about that. But you know, you're too high when someone's paid $80 to meet you and they stop the conversation. Oh, and they go, all right, Jim, it was great meeting you. And you're like this. Oh, God, I just bored the shit out of these people. They just paid to meet me and they found me boring.

[Theo]

Yeah. They're like, hey, Jim was getting. Lady, I got something in the oven.

[Jim Jeffries]

Jim, we got to sit up. So.

[Theo]

Jim's like, wait, wait.

[Jim Jeffries]

Yeah, I just enjoy this. Come back next time.

[Theo]

Yeah. Dude, I think it's. Congratulations. How many specials do you have?

[Jim Jeffries]

That's special number 10, but it's. It's special number six on Netflix. I think I actually have the record for Netflix. I know.

[Theo]

I think you have the record total for anybody.

[Jim Jeffries]

Yeah, but it's 10 specials where there's people. I think Carlin had 11 or something like that. But. But I have, have. I have the six. Is the Hellbounds just a thing? So, yeah. One, two, three, four, five, six. Yeah. Ten. Yeah. Oh, no, hang on, hang on. We haven't got the new one two limb policy. Two limb policy's got to go down there. Well, Contraband was just a dvd. Swear to God was hbo. Alcohol cost was Showtime. Then there was Epics. And then Bear down is Tatulin Policy, which is on. There are all Netflix. And I think Chappelle has like five Netflixes or something like that. But I was just lucky. I was there was. Okay, so there was five specials came out on the first ever Netflix. Netflix didn't do specials. Netflix and just Netflix was still more of a. This is about 12, 13 years ago. And they brought it. They had billboards up. Netflix is a joke. They started this is before the festival. And they were getting into the comedy special market. And they selected five comedians. And I remember people like actually going oh, you were on hbo and now you're on Netflix. Someone's career is going well. Like, really? Yeah.

[Theo]

Somebody from. That little guy from Family Guy.

[Jim Jeffries]

Yeah, A little. Yeah. Little patronizing facts. Right? Anyway, so the. The five comics they had were me, Bill Burr, Chelsea Handler, and Chelsea Peretti.

[Theo]

Wow.

[Jim Jeffries]

Right? So it's a good lineup. Right. Really good lineup of comics. And they were just. If these specials go well, we will continue. If they don't go well, we gave it a go. That was Netflix. What? The feeling I got from.

[Theo]

From them. Yeah.

[Jim Jeffries]

And the fifth comic, we were gonna. They were gonna do a press conference and everything. And I was like, so it was Bill Cosby. Now, no one's ever seen that special. That special's never really.

[Theo]

But he did record it.

[Jim Jeffries]

He recorded one for Netflix. It's never been seen.

[Theo]

Have you seen it?

[Jim Jeffries]

No. You. What? You think Netflix. Give me a special password that no one else gets. I still pay for my Netflix like everyone else, man.

[Theo]

Dude, that's a good point. African. Have a Netflix person. I freaking pay for Netflix, too.

[Jim Jeffries]

Yeah. I got six Netflix specials and I have to log in like everyone else to watch me.

[Theo]

I have fucking two accounts. One here in one Nashville.

[Jim Jeffries]

They tell me off when I'm in an Airbnb. They go, you've logged into too many devices. Me, that's one of the things I do do when I'm in an Airbnb and someone else has already logged into Netflix. It's someone else's account that I've never met. As I leave the house, I put my special on. I think one more rating. Get one more.

[Theo]

That's it.

[Jim Jeffries]

Here we go. The stat. So it's 2014.

[Theo]

Bill Cosby, 77, is an unreleased 2014 stand up comedy film. Film before a live audience at San Francisco Jazz center In California, around 60 minutes in duration. Cosby pontificating on matters of children, romance, and matrimony.

[Jim Jeffries]

Yeah, I. You know, when he came out of prison, the first thing he did, because I was at Flappers, like, that night, just trying stuff out. And then I went to the improv, like, a couple of days later, and. And he rang every comedy club, was the first thing. Cause he would have rung one of his managers and they'd like, hey, we don't rep you anymore, dude. And then he rang up the comedy clubs as he was out of prison. His first impulse was, I want to do stand up, get back on stage. And there's a bit of me that wants to see that, don't you? Like, like as terrible A man as he is, you know, But I want to hear how he fashioned a shiv out of. In prison. You know what I mean?

[Theo]

Yeah. I want to hear how, like, if he was still doing ra. I guess, if he was still doing rapes in prison or whatever, too, or what. Like, is there a group in prison if you're a raper, Like a scene. You know what I'm saying? Or like a group of. You know what I'm saying? Like. Because who do you. Because once you get into things get very tribal in there. So, like, do you associate with people that kind of have similar crimes?

[Jim Jeffries]

I think everyone just. He was. He was one of these people who was almost blind. He's only got, like, 10%. He's got cataracts on his eyes. I. I think they just left him alone. And he's probably. Probably. People were starstruck, you know, you're all. You're all criminals in there. You know what I mean?

[Theo]

Like, dude, a friend of mine did cocaine with O.J. simpson once, right? We're in New York City, and as you do. Yeah. And they said that nobody had a car key on him. They were just doing bumps of cocaine. And OJ Had a knife on him that he pulled out and used it to give everybody cocaine. And I know my friend's not lying about.

[Jim Jeffries]

And this is obviously after the murders. This isn't like that the night before.

[Theo]

Yeah, but just imagine that. Like, imagine being. Because he had that book. If I did it, like, imagine us being that psychotic that you're gonna live right there on that line of just. Just grow, like grotesqueness, really, for people.

[Jim Jeffries]

It's funny because drugs are the. Drugs are the thing, aren't they? Drugs are the thing that. That if you do them in front of people, you. That. That's a real sign of trust that I'm letting you into my circle, that you're going to watch me do this thing, that I could get in trouble, you know, There was. There was. There was a comic. I know. And I was. I won't get. You know, because he doesn't want to be known about this at all, and his career is going fine, all that sort of stuff. But he was doing it, you know, and then one of his mates sent out a photo of him doing it to the paper, and then it was just like, you know, like, fuck you, dude. Yeah, like, fuck you. You know, I've. Back in the day, 20 years ago, I've done drugs with famous people in the room, and I'm a blabbermouth. I'LL fucking tell any story I can to get laughs. But I've never slipped up on that. I've never. I feel that's an intensely private thing.

[Theo]

Yeah, I think it would be awful.

[Jim Jeffries]

Except for OJ Simpson, where of course I would have to tell them if it's a murderer. Yeah, you can talk about the murderer.

[Theo]

Who's Yalls best murderer over there from Australia.

[Jim Jeffries]

You think, well, Chopper's not bad. You know what was good about Chopper is they made a movie about him. The movie was massive, right. He's dead now. And then as he was dying, he went on 60 Minutes and talked about more murders that he did after the movie.

[Theo]

No. Wow.

[Jim Jeffries]

He basically became a stand up comic afterwards after the movie came out and he went and did a raconteur night with Chopper where he'd tell his stories and anyway, so then I stabbed the little cunt and you know, he did all that type of stuff. And a bloke came up to him afterwards who was like some guy from a gang that he had a fight and he came up with a book. To the book signing, went g', day, chop chop. He goes, oh, it's been a while, mate. We used to be adversaries, didn't he thinking was all water under the bridge. Then he killed that cunt.

[Theo]

Really?

[Jim Jeffries]

He was already. Yeah, he was already. And then so he.

[Theo]

Oh my God, he's dying. He was off the clock.

[Jim Jeffries]

He's dying of cancer. Like a few weeks left. And so he just goes on 60 minutes and talks about his other murders.

[Theo]

You have to. You have to.

[Jim Jeffries]

And everyone could do an impersonation of him. Everyone does the impersonation of Eric Banner's impersonation. Rather, you know, it's two impersonations removed. But do yourself a favor, man, watch the movie Chopper. It's a banger of a movie movie. It's. There's this one scene where he shoots a guy because he's like, where's the drug money? Where's the drug money? Where's the drug money? Where is it? Where? There's no money. There's no money. There's no money. There's no money. They'll show me the money. I want to see the money. Want to see the money. Like that, right? And then the guy's just like this. And then he like feels bad for him and he drives him to the emergency room himself.

[Theo]

Wow. Right, yeah, that's tough to do. It's hard to drive when somebody's. When, when there's that energy that somebody's bleeding in the car.

[Jim Jeffries]

Is it?

[Theo]

I find. Yeah, I've had friends bleeding and you're trying to get there and they're kind of pissed. You're like, I've. Look, I'm taking you, you know? And it's like.

[Jim Jeffries]

But it wasn't a gun when someone cut themselves.

[Theo]

Yeah, it was a knife wound, but yeah, still, like, I think there's that nerve, that. There's that scary energy. Or a friend. I had a friend who went into labor and had to get them to the hospital.

[Jim Jeffries]

It's like the, the, the, the birth. Going in for the birth. That is.

[Theo]

Would you do it again?

[Jim Jeffries]

Oh, I can't. I've had a vasectomy.

[Theo]

You could do it.

[Jim Jeffries]

I, I could re. I could reverse the. Well, I don't reverse the vasectomies anymore. You know what they do? They just put a needle in your testicle and they extract the semen.

[Theo]

No. And just give it to your wife.

[Jim Jeffries]

And then just give it to your wife. So if, if, if, if I ever wanted to have another one, I don't know, would that be like some old ass cum that's just sitting around your belly? But. Oh, here we go. Ivan Millet. Here we go. So he's the backpacker murder. Ivan, the, the t. The, the movie Wolf Creek. You've seen Wolf Creek?

[Theo]

Oh, yeah. Scary dude.

[Jim Jeffries]

That's based on Ivan Milat. Now, Ivan Milat was this guy, the British backpackers, if they broke down, he went and helped them out with their trucks. And then. And they don't know, every now and again they would find a body. I think he's dead. He's. Yeah, he's dead. Every now and again they'd find a body and they'd go, they'd go. And Ivan would go, yeah, that one's me as well. Got me.

[Theo]

Did you ever meet any of these guys?

[Jim Jeffries]

Okay, I never met any of them, but there was. I have a story about. There's one called the Claremont Killer. Claremont Killer was when I was in university in Perth and I was getting into. I, I done stand up when I was 17 and then stopped doing it. And then when I was 20, I took it back up again. I'd done like four open mics. And then I thought, I'll give it another go at it, because I had. Out of the three or four open mics I had, I had a couple of bad experiences and I was scared. Yeah. So the Claremont Killer, this bloke here, Bradley Robert Edwards. Yeah. So man convicted and murdered. The crimes. That's when I was at university. University, right. These are the years when I was at university. So the place was. Now Claremont was a very posh area in Perth and it was a. A big nightlife place. And all the girls allegedly went to get a taxi or whatever. And so all the taxi drivers are being checked for DNA and all types of stuff, you know. When you're starting in comedy, what do you do to get more stage time? You run your own gig? Yeah, we've all done it. You set up a gig in a pub. I'll emcee, Invite all your friends, invite some other open micas that you've become mates with with. Invite all your friends. And this is how you start to work up to get good at it. Right? And luckily for me, all the bars in Claremont were dead empty. They. They needed punters, so. So the bar, the Claremont Hotel, which is like. Which is the. One of the nicest pubs in all of Western Australia, could have no one there on a Friday or Saturday. And so it's like.

[Theo]

Because of the killer.

[Jim Jeffries]

It's like. It's like, I'll make sure we all drive in. And there's always designated drivers, drivers and that type of stuff because all the rest of the girls got in cabs. Everyone stayed together. All my mates from university, we used to go out into the Murder Zone to watch me do stand up.

[Theo]

That's class, dude. We had. We had a guy who did we have. We had the Baton Rouge serial killer when I was in college. Over there. Bring him up. And that was Lee Harvey. No, Todd Lee. Derek Todd Lee. Dtl, they call him.

[Jim Jeffries]

Oh, here we go.

[Theo]

Dtl. He was DTF too. I think he was a killer and rapist.

[Jim Jeffries]

Not a lot of black serial killers. I watched a lot of True Chrome.

[Theo]

Yeah, because they kept saying he was white and they kept like, like swabbing all the honkies in our town and everything. And then they called him. They called him right there. Peanut. They called him too. Some people called him Peanut. Did he get killed in prison? Where is he today? He probably look, he looks like he could work for years.

[Jim Jeffries]

You don't have. You don't have the death penalty on there.

[Theo]

I don't know. I mean, if you're. You hang out in New Orleans long enough, you'll get shot once. But I don't know if that's the death penalty. That's just like tourism.

[Jim Jeffries]

So you grew up in, like, not in New Orleans.

[Theo]

Yeah, regular town. Covington is our town.

[Jim Jeffries]

Covington, yeah.

[Theo]

I don't know if we had any. No Aussies near us.

[Jim Jeffries]

I've, I, I very much. It's funny thing about like, 47, all the, all the Australians who come out, they go, I'm coming out too. I'm going to come out to la. And then they come and visit me. And then I go, where are you going? Oh, we're going to go to New York and we're going to go to Orlando. Right. That's all the three places they go.

[Theo]

Is that the main spots? I was wondering what are the main spots that Australians go in the U.S.

[Jim Jeffries]

I just, I've been telling people, go to fucking Nashville, man. It's like, it's like as much fun. They'll go to Vegas as well, of course. Right, right. And I'm like, go to Miami, go, go to New Orleans. There's like these places that are fucking awesome. There's so many cities in America where you're like, this place is, is a B. And there's also hidden gym gems in Australia that you might not know about. Like, like a lot of people might go to Brisbane instead of going to the Gold Coast. And the Gold coast has got a lot of fun things to do.

[Theo]

Oh, the Gold coast was amazing, dude. We would take. We got bikes and went. And you could ride them on the sand, on the beach as motorized bikes, dude. Just zipping. I mean, the beach, it was like 70 miles long. You're just cruising. Absolutely beautiful. You know, dude, that was, that's.

[Jim Jeffries]

That's how Miami in it.

[Theo]

Yes, it was. And it was just like.

[Jim Jeffries]

But a little bit more rednecky. Miami.

[Theo]

Yeah. A little safer, though, too. Cleaner.

[Jim Jeffries]

Yeah. Yeah, I know, it's a banger. It's a banger of a place. But how'd you find the sun?

[Theo]

We went to New Zealand and the sun there will kill you. You can't stay out very long. Some of the beaches there.

[Jim Jeffries]

Well, the whole. The hole in the ozone layer, it's real. Is over Australia and New Zealand is over Australia. New Zealand. There's one, I believe, on the North Pole and the other one's down there. But I'm an environmentalist in the sense that I believe in global warming, and I think that we need to make adjustments, otherwise the world's fucked and the water levels are going to rise. And I know a lot of people don't believe that, but blah, blah, blah. But I will say this. We got rid of the CFCs from the hairspray, from the refrigeration, and from the Styrofoam, which was the three main places where CFC and The hole's getting smaller. It does if we make change. That is a good example of how things can actually fix itself.

[Theo]

Right.

[Jim Jeffries]

You know what I mean? Because we were, we only found out about it. Like we go, there's a layer. In the 80s, they were like, there's a liar. Oh yeah. And sadly there's a hole in it. And we're.

[Theo]

That's the most.

[Jim Jeffries]

I mean, and like, can you imagine now if they brought that out at news, the Internet, the conspiracy theories that would come out now if you went, there's a mystical layer around us and there's a hole in it and the, the UV rights go through there and then they.

[Theo]

Nobody would believe that.

[Jim Jeffries]

It's too far fetched. But it's the same as like the first country just tell you about germs. Oh, there's these things you can't see that'll get on you and make you sick. And if you're, you know, doing surgery or stuff, you should wash your hands because if those germs get into the cut, infections will happen. What? What do you mean? Oh, you can't see them.

[Theo]

Like they're ghosts. Yeah, that's what you would ask. They're gonna be ridiculous.

[Jim Jeffries]

Yeah, yeah. They're microscopic. They're little tiny things and they'll jump. That's.

[Theo]

They would have hung him. They probably killed that guy.

[Jim Jeffries]

That's science fiction. Yeah, that's. That's completely science.

[Theo]

Everything's kind of like. Everything's science fiction really until, you know, until it becomes true, I guess. Everything's. I don't know. My brain is shocked.

[Jim Jeffries]

Reese Darby, who, you know, raised Darby from our flag, means death fly the Concords. I say, he's a big Bigfoot guy.

[Theo]

Is he?

[Jim Jeffries]

He loves Bigfoot.

[Theo]

Does Australians have their own Bigfoot?

[Jim Jeffries]

We, there's probably so. Oh, we have a bunyip. Bunyip, Bunyip.

[Theo]

Let me see them.

[Jim Jeffries]

Yeah, a bunyip is like say B U n bun Y U. Yeah, we go, banya. There it is.

[Theo]

A mythical creature from Australia, Aboriginal folklore, primarily found in the southeastern regions. It's described as a large aquatic beast inhabiting swamps, billabongs, creeks and water holes. Yeah, the bunya. Oh yeah.

[Jim Jeffries]

What Reese always says to me, I go, I go, why? Where's the bones? Where's, where's the fossils? Where's the thing? This? And he always goes, the platypus. Because the platypus was a mythical thing until someone actually caught one. There was people who said, I've seen it. It's the beaver with a duck's head. Yeah, right.

[Theo]

Yeah, yeah. Or whatever.

[Jim Jeffries]

And they're so elusive and they, they're so at the bottom of these creeks and stuff like that. And no one ever saw them. They bec that they were a bigfoot of its time.

[Theo]

And no, they look like, like, like they are totally fictional if you look at that animal. I mean, that's insane.

[Jim Jeffries]

They're their own breed of animal. They are a, a monotreme. Monotrem, which means that they are a marsupial that lays eggs.

[Theo]

Wow.

[Jim Jeffries]

So every other marsupial uses a pouch and obviously the animal cross into the pouch, it digests and it gets bigger and bigger and bigger until it can stick its head out of the pouch, etc. Right. But this is. Yeah, it's. It's a marsupial that lays eggs. It's its own creature. Man, they're beautiful.

[Theo]

We got to get somebody to bring one in. I would love to see one.

[Jim Jeffries]

Well, I've only ever seen him in the zoo.

[Theo]

I think they're keen.

[Jim Jeffries]

I've never seen one in the wild. They're. They're on one of our coins. You know, we always put a different. That's what, that's the great thing about Australia is we have, we have some good looking weird areas. There's the platypus and he's all swimming around 20 cents.

[Theo]

That pee puss right there.

[Jim Jeffries]

Yeah, he gets on the, he gets on the money. He's popular. The platypus.

[Theo]

I love them. And are they only in Australia?

[Jim Jeffries]

Yes, they're only Australia.

[Theo]

Oh, wow. See, that's a great thing you guys have, like. It's just something unique over there, man. I really think that I, I wonder if people. I wonder if people are excited about the direction America's headed. I wonder if people are. I don't know. I just get paranoid that everybody's kind of freaking out right now. Okay, are people, are people freaking out in Australia right now?

[Jim Jeffries]

Yes, everyone's freaking out all around the world.

[Theo]

Really?

[Jim Jeffries]

Yeah. The world is in, in a transitional phase is which direction we're about to go in. Who knows? Things might, you know, look, I, I'm an anti Trump guy. I know you've. You've met. You know him, right? Yeah.

[Theo]

I mean, as much as you can kind of know. I mean, I'm actually, you know, I've met him a couple times, you know.

[Jim Jeffries]

And I know that a lot of people, fans of this podcast are going to hate me. Right. You think so? But that's life. That's putting yourself out there. Right. I, I, I'm at the stage now with Donald Trump where I can't argue anymore. I've done the standup routines. I had a stand up, I had a TV show where I talked about it. There's no more arguments for me to make about the guy because he's not getting fucking voted in again. This is it, right? These next three years. This is it. It's here now. So I'm of the opinion, let's just fucking see how it goes. You know, this whole idea that Americans are always with, impeach, impeach. He's been impeached. Bill Clinton was impeached. It's all bullshit.

[Theo]

Yeah.

[Jim Jeffries]

Means fucking nothing.

[Theo]

Yeah.

[Jim Jeffries]

Means nothing. Oh, but he's a convicted criminal. Only makes him stronger. What the liberals have to stop doing is kicking up and down going, he's wrong and this is wrong. And just figure out ways to beat him. Stop fucking telling me how bad he is and figure out a way to fucking beat him. Because Kamala Harris wasn't the fucking answer. Yeah, right.

[Theo]

Oh, I agree. Know, So I agree that you got to figure. You have to. Yeah. It's like you have to find a solution if you're just sitting there yelling about everything. It's all the, most of these parties do.

[Jim Jeffries]

But now there is no beating him now. It's just riding it out. Yeah, right. Just, just writing it. You know, it's, it's, it's. He, he said. Was it on your podcast where he said he would get rid of income tax? Was it here? Whose podcast? It was on some podcasts. It might have been, might have been with Schultz. Might have been shorts. He said, he said, if the tariffs work, I'll get rid of income tax. I tell you what, I have been one of those people who referred to Donald Trump as Hitler. Right. And my, I will also add this. Not at the end, not up, because everyone goes, but Hitler killed 6 million Jews. I'm not talking about that era. I'm talking about Hitler just out of art school.

[Theo]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, I'm like, you know, yeah, like sophomore Hitler.

[Jim Jeffries]

Yeah, yeah. So I tell you what, if he gets rid of income tax, you'll never hear me call him Hitler ever again. I'll be too busy calling him my furor. If he gets rid of income tax, you'll have no more complaints from me. I'll be all right. But, like, you know, look, how, I'll ask you a question. How do you think things are going?

[Theo]

I think that I do. I don't like this stuff in with Gaza, in the Middle East. I don't understand why we have such a, where we give so much money to Israel. Like, you know, every, a lot of the big countries are against him right now. Again, I think Netanyahu is like, is like the new Hitler. It's like, or that Netanyahu is the worst. So it's like, I don't understand that relationship.

[Jim Jeffries]

And then it's a tricky one, that one, because no one wants to watch a genocide and what happened that they shouldn't have taken hostages and no one, you know, Hamas isn't angels and all sorts of stuff. But if, if you can see those pictures of those starving kids and not be moved and not think that we should do something about that, that's. You're wrong.

[Theo]

Yeah.

[Jim Jeffries]

You know what I mean? So, so whatever side, and I don't want to get into what side I'm on, I think it's pretty obvious where I'm at. But whatever side you're on, right, we're all on the side of children, not starving, right? Yeah, we're all on that side. So let's figure that out. And then diplomacy, let's talk. Yeah. Now we've got Palestine being recognized as its own state and stuff like that. Maybe that's somewhere where we can start moving forward. I, I, I, I don't have the answer, but, yeah, me neither. What's, what's going on now is not the right thing, I'll tell you that much. And, and a lot of politicians have to, you know, we elect these people to actually make change. All right. Make change, man. You know, I, I could be, I could be turned in to a Donald Trump fan very quickly. It wouldn't take much if he just, if he stopped that war there, really, like in a succinct way that was fair and just, you got all my support in the world, man. I'm not just here going, that guy and he's dumb orange skin and he's bad comb over. You know what I mean? Like, it's not, it's so, so you were saying you, I want to see action.

[Theo]

I just, you know, it's like, and then I wonder, you know, it feels very much like we're headed into a surveillance state. You know, these are things that I just like, am concerned about. I, Overall, I, I think you were.

[Jim Jeffries]

Just saying how much you enjoyed Australia and how Britain, all that sort of stuff. Britain's got more cameras than, and I agree, but you're filmed 24 hours a day.

[Theo]

I think we're headed there very quickly. That's why there's all this ICE stuff. That's why they're pulling everybody off streets, because they have to get inventory. In two years, there's going to be. I believe we're going to be in a surveillance state. You won't be able to say. If you walked out in public and you were not here, Doc, you didn't have documentation to be here. People and people have different thoughts and all that, that's fine. I'm just saying that if you didn't have documentation to be here, the cameras that would notice immediately. So everything has to be on the books. That's where I think we're headed. And so that's why I think they're doing all of that stuff. Stuff which I'm not saying makes it wrong or right, but I think that that's.

[Jim Jeffries]

But we've already got that. Okay, so L.A. has that prison escape, right? You know all those prisons, they caught them all through facial recognition.

[Theo]

Who does? Louisiana.

[Jim Jeffries]

Yeah, you remember when there was that? Yeah. They all ran off that loading dock, right.

[Theo]

One's still out, I think. Who's there?

[Jim Jeffries]

One still going.

[Theo]

They call him Hot Boy.

[Jim Jeffries]

This is the weird thing about prison breaks. Never in cinematic history have we fall, have we championed the police trying to cut them. That's true every time we want. So we got. We got one out.

[Theo]

As of June 2025, the Louisiana inmates are no longer at large. Damn.

[Jim Jeffries]

Yeah, they're all done.

[Theo]

Antoine Massey and Derek Gro is the last two to be apprehended. Shout out. Massey and Gross.

[Jim Jeffries]

But this was. The thing is there was facial recognition that picked up the people, and now they're like, oh, yeah, we have that technology here, right?

[Theo]

They had to admit it.

[Jim Jeffries]

They had to admit it because that's how they caught him. And while we were using it for a thing we weren't using again, they just sort of fluffed over it, like. Yeah, of course. They've all already got it, mate. Yeah, they've already got it. You. Have you seen. I'm a support the Clippers. If you go to that Inuit dome, have you been to see anything there? You don't. They just. Facial recognition as you walk in.

[Theo]

That's it.

[Jim Jeffries]

You've already done it on the app. As you walk in, they're like, hello, Jim. And you're like, wow. Yeah, it is walking.

[Theo]

It's happening fast. It's. It's here. We just. We're not. We're not realizing that it's here, you know, But I'll say this. I just want people to be able to be ha. I don't, you know, it's kind of like ethereal, but it's. But it's like you want people to be able to live in a safe place. You want people to have jobs and have purpose. So those types of things. I don't understand some of the bigger picture things like what happens with tariffs and what their goals are and all of that kind of shit. I just, it starts to really feel like that neither party represents the people and that's the part that kind of concerns me the most. So.

[Jim Jeffries]

Well, the tariffs. I just wish they. If. If you need to do them. Okay, so, okay. I haven't. I haven't felt any joy from it. I haven't seen my bank balance go up. I haven't seen my neighbor get a job. Job. I haven't seen factories, you know, and I might be wrong, but just the eye check. I haven't seen any benefit from it. All I found is there's things that I'm paying for that are costing more. Yeah, right. But maybe it's too soon.

[Theo]

Look, I don't think it could be too soon to tell. I think you ha. I think, you know, he's a brash guy. Is going to be brash. Is he leaning into making it more brash for no reason?

[Jim Jeffries]

He needs a cleaner thing that we see. We go, this is how every day you turn on the news, it's like this. We're going to tariff them 35 and this country is getting 30. And you 45 for you. You know what I mean? Like it's. It really is just a bloke just throwing numbers out there. If he had a thing with a chart, a very clear thing that said these countries are getting this and this is the reason why, and this is how we're going forward. I might not agree with it, I may not respect it, but at least I'd understand it.

[Theo]

I agree. Get a fucking chart, man. Get us a chart. Chart. Things just seem very busy, but I think I feel like they all know something that's going on are going to happen and we don't know it. That's a feeling that I have.

[Jim Jeffries]

Any war could happen at any stage.

[Theo]

I don't know if it's war. It could be aliens. It could be anything, you know, I don't know.

[Jim Jeffries]

I reckon the aliens will wait until now, after all. Yeah, okay, so you think I've seen a ufo? I said, you know where I saw a ufo? I saw a UFO with a plane of people. I was on an airplane and I saw a UFO and we all looked out the window, went in USA, in America.

[Theo]

Wow.

[Jim Jeffries]

But we were flying over Area 51. We were flying near Vegas. Coming back across the thing. It was pro. I don't think I saw an alien. I think I saw a test vehicle being flown. But it was circular like a ball, and it moved in those type of.

[Theo]

No doubt. You saw it.

[Jim Jeffries]

I saw it with a. I saw it with a lot of people.

[Theo]

People.

[Jim Jeffries]

I saw it with a lot of people.

[Theo]

Have y' all kept in touch or anything like that?

[Jim Jeffries]

No. And I. I didn't get me phone out, which I wish I did, because we all went, whoa. And I. I was over Area 51. Area 51, by its own admission, is where they test. Right. Where they test new aircraft. So I. I saw an unidentified flying object. I don't believe there were aliens in it. Now, could it be alien technology? I don't think it's a really long way. I believe there's lots of aliens out there. I believe there's tons of them. I. I just don't think if you came here and visited, you'd hover around a little bit and then duck off. I think there'd be more to it.

[Theo]

I think they used to come here a lot, and now this is like going to like an old theme park. I don't think they come here as much. I think, like, if you have to bring your kids here for like their spring break, if you're an alien, their kids are like that place, you know? So I think they're probably off doing cooler maybe, but what do I know, you know, I don't want to go there.

[Jim Jeffries]

It's like our planet in the 70s.

[Theo]

We're like. They're like Panama City beach or something. Florida, you know, it's like, used to be great, but now they're all going to, like, Vegas somewhere, some other places.

[Jim Jeffries]

Do you think in your lifetime we will have proof of aliens?

[Theo]

Yes, I do.

[Jim Jeffries]

In your lifetime?

[Theo]

Yeah. I think something is. Is looming in the distance.

[Jim Jeffries]

It feels like because we have proof of UFOs. They've shown the footage. The FBI's released footage.

[Theo]

Can you solve.

[Jim Jeffries]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. But it's unidentified Flying Objects. It doesn't mean. And it. And it so happens that you seem to see them more in America. That makes no sense.

[Theo]

Gotta see them the most. Do they, Scott? Yeah, they love them, but they're heavy drinkers.

[Jim Jeffries]

Heavy, heavy drinkers.

[Theo]

Exactly, dude.

[Jim Jeffries]

And it's always so cloudy. You get a little bit of light coming through the clouds. Hey, hey. Oh, ufo. Seen it. You know what I mean? That's just the sun, mate.

[Theo]

That's just a bit of ray gun lad. Jim Jeffries. Dude, thanks so much for hanging out, dude. I got a freaking guy got a show tonight, so I gotta.

[Jim Jeffries]

Can I. Can I just plug what I've got going on?

[Theo]

Oh yeah, for sure.

[Jim Jeffries]

Very quickly. I'll just get my plugs out of the way. I got two limb policy on Netflix right now. Watch it. Very proud of it. Happy with this special. I also have a podcast called Atmosphere with me and Amos Gill that is coming out. I am in a movie coming out, a Jordan Peele film where called Called him which is directed by Justin Tipping, produced by Jordan Peele, Marlon Wayans, Tyreek with his Julia Fox and it's like a proper cinematic release. And I'm like doing drama shit, man. I'm like acting in that. And I have a TV show on Fox which is a reality show called the Snake, which is a lot of fun. Which is. Which is my 12 year old's favorite program, favorite thing I've done. So the Snake is like a mix between Fear Factor, Survivor and Big Brother. Just sort of, you know. But check out the Snake. Yeah, the Snake's all right, man.

[Theo]

And you can watch it with your kids, right?

[Jim Jeffries]

It's the first thing I've done that I can watch with me kids.

[Theo]

That's pretty cool.

[Jim Jeffries]

Yeah. Yeah. So we're growing up. That's me. Four things I'll probably. Last time I did a podcast with you probably six years ago or something like that. And that's. I'll wait until all these things are done and see if I have some new stuff and come back in again.

[Theo]

I'd love to. Anytime. I feel bad, man. Today I was just really kind of tired. I think I'm kind of exhausted. So it's hard for me to like think of some different stuff, you know.

[Jim Jeffries]

I didn't. Shut up, man. So I'm sorry if you had some more questions.

[Theo]

That was a blessing, dude. And we want to get that photo of Lt. Max Nugent. We'd love to keep him here if it's okay with your brother.

[Jim Jeffries]

That would be. That would be.

[Theo]

Unless. That's weird.

[Jim Jeffries]

Is it weird you don't have to have him here all the time. You can have him sometimes or whatever. Whatever or whatever. But no, anytime we can remember that's the favorite. My favorite thing I just did today was talk about my nephew.

[Theo]

Yeah. So it was awesome to see a photo of him. And thank you for sharing and thank you for your service, Mr. Max Nugent. We appreciate that. Jim Jeffries two limb policy. Policy is out now. Check it out. I'll share it on socials in just. In just a few minutes, as soon as you get out here of here. Thanks so much, dude. And congratulations on everything, dude.

[Jim Jeffries]

Thanks, bro. Yeah, you too. Now I'm just floating on the breeze? And I feel I'm falling Like these leaves? I must be cornerstone?

[Theo]

Oh?

[Jim Jeffries]

But when I reach that ground? I'll share this peace of mind I found? I can feel it in my bones? But it's gonna take.